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I got sniped by a milspec turret in a lab while having 78+ ballistic protection on my torso kek
>>552873649really? oofthose shoot 5.56, right? makes me feel a whole lot worse about my behavior around milspec turrets in the past if they can hit you through 78 ballistic
>>552874519to be fair I was at half life on my torso but it's crazy how it only took one burst, perhaps I rolled unlucky crits or some shit
>Die to RockI'll play Paper this time>Die to ScissorI'll play Rock this time>Die to PaperI'll play Scissor this time>Die to Rock
>>552877015Could do worse
Wow, 454 Casull is fucking useless
Working on getting monsters showing up on the compass so that they wont be able to sneak up on the player any more. Eventually only monsters you're not actually looking at will show up.
does latest dwarf fart-ress have the classic UI or a mod to have classic UI yet? i don't own a fucking mouse.
>banshee phases inside the refugee center>kills one of the beggars and the girl that asks for a QuranAnd nothing of value was lost.Maybe I should turn off wandering hordes before one of the useful NPCs dies, though.
>>552893945you asked this same question last thread and the answer hasn't changed, buy a fucking mouse you retard
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>>552901945Ronnie isn't solely a boy's nickname.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Spector
>>552902695not the most important detail in that text
>>552901945Makes little sense for a bandit in a zombie apocalypse to carry around an RPG honestly. Would blow up anything worth stealing, super loud noise attracts the zombies, and where the fuck are you going to get a steady supply of ammo?
>>552904482He (or she) found a rocket launcher and took it. Wouldn't you?
>>552904876No, it's not like I'm planning on blowing up tanks or breaching bunkers. Using it to kill a single guy on foot is more likely to fuck over myself than anything else.
By the way this also happened. This is on me.
>>552905592Really. Suppose you were playing Cataclysm, and happened to find an RPG-7 and several rockets. In the early game, so you don't have any other guns yet. Would you seriously just leave it?
>>552906545Oh if you meant in game then yeah sure I would take it. I was thinking more of a hypothetical real world scenario.
>>552906953>real worldThis is /rlg/ not /rwg/, quit it with the fanciful tales of strange lands and their customs
>>552906953In a real world scenario there might actually be things to shoot at, though. Armored cars and whatnot.
>>552911875I feel like the logistics of maintaining an armored car would make it pretty impractical to have more than a year out.
>>552912238If you can convert the car to run on alcohol, making fuel won't even be difficult. Just kind of labour intensive. And an armored car would be very useful for any survivor community who could afford one. There will still be a demand for hauling cargo long distance, and you want it to be resistant to zombies and bandit small arms.
>>552901195no, fuck you.
>>552914719Fuck you leatherman
TOTAL BULWARK VICTORY
>>552886576Does it have pockets
>>552928414gg
>>552928414Gg
>>552905592considering the dearth of NPC deathmobiles we see in Cataclysm you might be right, but the traditional player deathmobile really puts a bodge on that proposition, doesn't it?
>>552948260>considering the dearth of NPC deathmobilesThat's just because all NPCs are terrible drivers.
Looks like they made some changes, my murderchopper now looks the same in vehicle view as it does in game
>>552955289your murderchopper is bigger than my deathmobile
>>552957908Well, it's more like a mobile base. With choppers, the larger you make it, the more efficient it becomes overall. More motors, more generators, more solar panels, more batteries, more lift generation, more everything. As long as you slap on enough enhanced (preferably super) motors to get the thing airborne, and install some wings on the frame somewhere, you can still cruise around very cheaply even while in the air.
Forgot to include this part. Currently cruising along over a forest at 290kmph, with only one of the enhanced motors running.They're so strong that it almost feels like cheating, honestly. Finding a helipad almost guarantees that you get at least one set of heavy-duty rotors, which you can install on pretty much any vehicle. And then it's just a matter of flying around and looking for race tracks, which are usually full of electric sports cars that you can cannibalise for enhanced motors. Install as many as you need, and then zoom around looking for the best loot locations like military bases, aircraft carriers and magic academies.
>>552955289Very nice ride.
>>552893945Sorry anon, Toady's just been really busy with sieges and whatnot.
>>552962283Y-you too...
Is Cursed blacksmith a good roguelike?
>>552964714maybe
>>552964714Let's ask the totem
Two aircraft carriers on a single lake? Alright calm down game.
>>552975765Isn't that supposed to be globally unique?
>>552976580I don't think so. In this playthrough I've already been on three military bases and four aircraft carriers.
Ahhh...After that time spend grinding up marksman and messing about with stealth, it's nice to just go back to the basics and go all out.
God damn it, how many CBMs have I wasted by not knowing that a lot more shit other than shockers, techs and scientists have them now?
>>552983359All the good onesAnd 130 power storage module
>>552983359Baby nights needed MORE free shit?
>>552975765Clearly you've found that lake's carrier strike group.
>>552955289Damn reminds me about battletech vtols
>>553000589>free shit?>freeI don't think that word means what you think it means
>>553016432I'm sure he's just mad because he has to work hard searching for his troonjuice and adult diapers.
>>553031531>troonjuiceI tried playing DDA a while back and I did note estrogen pills being added. It doesn't bother me that much, but I just wonder what the fuck happened? Why are the devs obsessed with trannyshit? I bet you anything that any serious tranny wouldn't even care about estrogen pills and lgbt coloured stockings in a video game, but these fuckers are still catering to their imaginary audience. Even their dicksord channel's logo switches between various types of rainbow flags.
What the actual fuck?
God forgive me
>>553041310What do the pills even do in the game?
For tome specifically but also in general, how do you learn to better distribute stat points? Like it's obvious when something goes 17% -> 19% -> 21% that you might consider leaving it at one point or that in 13% -> 26% -> 31% the second point doubles your value but the ROI gets worse after that etc. but how do you actually measure the impact of each point when there's so many factors? Do you go by feel or calc it out?
>>553052681In general most skills aren't worth it above level 3 unless it has a special bonus for hitting level 4 or 5.The most important skills are typically utility. Compare the skill existence with a rune or infusion. Good skills are around the level of a rune.Most melees don't care much about the damage number on a skills because something like 10% damage on a 6 turn ability is very tiny per turn increase since you can always bump. Most casters only need enough abilities to fill their rotations and are more interested in the CC status. Most cleanse and teleports are worth at least one point. Abilities that buff or debuff might be worth considering a level if the duration is close to the cooldown so you can keep it up forever.
>>553053452>something like 10% damage on a 6 turn ability is very tiny per turn increase since you can always bumpThis is probably where I've been wasting most of my points since I often feel a lack of damage/burst. Probably more to do with low base values on my weapons though. Thanks
>>553054168Weapon builds do damage based on your attributes. Look at the description of your weapon, if it says 50% str 50% dex then you want to max those attributes ASAP.
>>553054304I have been, with the occasional point in STR on DEX/CUN builds for the physical power too
huh, didn't know you can make combat mechs in the nanofab if you farm enough canisters
>>553052585Been ages since I played DDA but from what I hear, they do nothing. They're just clutter like butter knives or whatever
I'm so fucked
>>553065560Leveling the teleport talents first is a good idea for these situations
We fucking made it boys. God bless 0 turn 251 shield>>553065790I skimped on pushing Conveyance to reach Trained Reactions and Track faster but that lone point in Phase Door and Shield Rune saved my ass
Cataclysm anons, how do you feel about The Last Generation? Its my first actual jump into Cataclysm after browsing traditional roguelikes on Steam and I've dumped about 40 hours into it.Really like the emphasis on scarcity and survival. I haven't really tried DDA proper but I noticed its $20 on Steam? I know the free github versions exist but I'm curious also if the Steam version can use the experimental builds.
So the good news is my escort mission had the Scoundrel reward, the bad news is I'm about to commit suicide
>>553066614I wouldn't recommend either, anon. DDA sucks, and TLG is just DDA with a different autism angle. It's Bright Nights for me, and a lot of other Cata players here.
>Baby Nights
I said " a lot of the other Cata players" because I was consciously leaving out the above dork
Who asked
I still refuse to believe that this is organic TLG posting.Somehow it's the only roguelike (an obscure fork of a vastly more popular mainline roguelike) where people "have tried other roguelites on Steam" and came to RLG (a dead place of broken spirits on a honeypot website decades past its prime) to ask if anyone thinks it's good because of its "gritty realism""I really like how they took a bunch of cool shit out, does anyone else think I'd like that if I actually played it?"Get over yourself, actually play the fucking fork and post about it if you want to get people into the dumb fucking thing
>>553067997This is why I tell new players to leave the level if there's a Carrion Worm in the forest
>>553073675they literally said they played TLG and wanted to know about DDA, learn to read dumbass
>>552983359just carry around a bionic scanner and keep it running all the timeyou need to change the batteries like once every 24 hours or something, literally a nonissue
>>553016209isn't this just the air transport unit from Supreme Commander
>>553043026bionic combatitives is a martial art that has some funny flavor textdo you still get it from a CBM or what
First time clearing Daikara. Shadow Grasp with Track is so strong; how am I allowed to pull an enemy, even a boss, from all the way across the screen and then Silence, Disarm, Off-Balance, and Brainlock them on top of doing damage? Almost makes up for the fact that Rantha can Freeze me from a screen away too.>>553074365I've already made that mistake before so I skipped them since the run is going well.
>>553066614do NOT pay money for cataclysm, that money will not support development at all and just goes to a crackheadyou should try Bright Nights
>>553066614It's certainly better than DDA, on account of not having fucking exodii. Beyond that, it doesn't really have its own identity yet. I hope it does well.
>>553075657Bright Nights is too easy. Having to talk to Kevin broke them, and now they're deathly afraid of inconveniencing the player or having any kind of quality control.
>>553080501You have a huge amount of values to you can tweak when setting up a world to make it as hard or easy as you want.
>>553080501>inconveniencing the playerYeah, because fuck that, I play to have a fun time not be annoyed by tedious bullshit
>>553075546>bionic combatitives is a martial art that has some funny flavor textSure is, the descriptions are all referencing different code languages. But that's not what I was shocked about, what surprised me was that I hit a zombie for 670 damage with a pistol.>do you still get it from a CBM or whatYes, you need to find a close quarters battle CBM, it's the only source for the art. And each time you use it you have a very small chance to learn the art and use it without the CBM (exact % depends on your intelligence and is doubled if you have the enhanced memory banks CBM).
>>553084650>hit a zombie for 670 damage with a pistolit's using rifle caliber ammo, which is why I hate it and refuse to use italmost as nonsensical as the leadworks guns were desuthat's still a stupidly large number, I think I just ignored it because it's a gasoline zombie and they always die in one hit iirc
>>553043026>>553084650Some weird bug?Can it do that to anything else?
>>553085001I have no clue. I shot other zombies and other gasoline zombies too but never reached even a fourth of that number. Maybe gasoline zombies have an additional critical that you can score that instantly blows them up, and if you have to get a regular crit on top of that you get nonsensical numbers?
>>55308488250 BMG usually hits between 100 and 200 damage. I think a rocket-propelled grenade hit me for around 250. 600 is mininuke tier.
How do i get out of the reitrement village?Metal garage doors, laminated glass, and the lever access is from below, which i dont know how to get to.Do i keep exploring the admin building, or ready a sacrificial car to ram something?
I will ONLY play BN if it has this keybind to pickup from ALL nearby tiles.But it doesn't. I'm sorry.
>>553090558advanced inventory managerkill yourself>>553090218what the hell are you talking about
>>553091043>what the hell are you talking aboutGolden years scenario, started in retirement village.Whole village is surrounded by an unclimbable wall. This is the gate out, heavily barred.
>>553091171I don't recognize what your tiles mean so I can't help youcan you not climb up in one of the inside corners?
>>553090218Oh, i made it. Just had to explore administration building more after i healed. Found a basement to the lever. Time to get outta here!Quite a fun start.
>>553090218I have no knowledge of retirement homes and if they're supposed to be so heavily locked down. Is that the norm for burgers to toss their (grand)mom/dad into a pseudo-prison?
Well, I guess I don't need the optical cloak anymore.
We need bardlikesInstead of going down a dungeon to find an amulet we try to court with women and fight unamused husbands
Turns out you CAN find the mythic martial arts in books.
And what do we have here?
>>553107716Oh shit, they redid the necropolis?
>>553093680>Is that the norm for burgers to toss their (grand)mom/dad into a pseudo-prison?No, that's kinda weird actually
>>553066614exactly as autistic as DDA, but TLG is a higher quality autismjust don't interact with the discord or dev at all, worm girl is an egotistic asshole that crashes out on people often and for little reason
>>553093680It depends on how much dementia they have. If none then they can probably walk out of whatever place they're at whenever they want.
>>553075547>how am I allowed to pull an enemy, even a boss, from all the way across the screen and then Silence, Disarm, Off-Balance, and Brainlock them on top of doing damage?I know nothing about insane+ which has a very specific meta but shadowblade is the strongest melee class at the moment, sun paladin is also strong lacking hard CC but making up for it in raw damage and above average durability
>>553135382>but shadowblade is the strongest melee class at the momentWell don't tell me that, now I'm going to feel extra bad when I inevitably fuck up the run
>>553136270not that guy but SB is only alright, has all the tools to win and definitely is like a whole few tiers above say Bulwark but definitely nowhere near the top classes who actually have very bullshit scalingThe issue with with SB on Insane is that enemies have random gloves which will have disarm immunity (very common staff) so if you pull a strong melee toward you it will just Flurry you to death. The pull is also not exactly unique, Doombringer has the same and while it doesn't CC, it doing a ton of damage is often better in practice on Insane since you don't have to deal with random immunities.
>>553103390alchemistlike>raid swamps for rare herbs and shit>cook illegal potions with them at your hideout>sell them via magical fedexall while avoiding the fantasy DEA
>>553136929I actually planned on trying Bulwark after all my failed Rogue runs but went with SB instead because it looked like a better Rogue (no idea if that's correct though)
>>553138092SB is better than Rogue, but the latter has a few very good tools like fan of knives, garrotte and the rogue tools. They don't really beat shadow grasp and teleports though, but the gap is relatively small.
>dcss devs add heavy brand and it's shit>they add some more brands (super cleaving, "devious" and tangling) and they're all shit as wellWhat's the point? Just reducing the chance of ever getting what you want from a brand scroll?
>>553138373I was skipping Knives altogether for whatever reason but Shadow Grasp really put into perspective how helpful ranged options are. And yeah, Phase Door etc is really nice to have, especially since my position is still poor
This is a roguelike. Beat the hardest difficulty on the best(?) class.
>>553142515Now to beat the TLB
>>553142515Congrats! Looks hard.
I always thought the beauty of SB was how you could spend something like 20 turns in invisibility and reset any fight you didn't win with the first 5 turns of burst. I first tried the whole game on it, but I wasn't playing Nightmare either so...
>>553155014Invis is pointless above normal since all the rares and randbosses will randomly get the tracking skill tree, giving them tons of detection power from the passive on that tree
>>553107716>>553108676that's the only version of the necropolis/vault I've ever seen (I think, I can't read your tiles very well)
Battlerape in BN wen
Got thrashed the first two times around and only narrowly escaped thanks to Teleports but one Rune of Dissipation and he folds like wet origami paper; kill or no?
>>553170214you need to help him to get the full reward
>>553170394This blithe imbecil didn't refresh my cooldowns after teleporting us and we almost lost because of it
Cleared everything in green, yellow remains unfinished, red can't do; when do I fight The Master? I'm only level 29, haven't gotten my last category point and the cap is 50, right?
>>553175687master is mid way point in the game, 29-30 is usually when you fight him
They're all invulnerable, was this normal for every other vault? Can't remember
>>553177127Some vaults have enemies that are invul until opened
Lost two escorts to miscalculating Windblade range but we made it
Question pertsining to tome4;Is there any steamtech that can be applied to shields? Google is just giving me unrelated shit about shield, and I was wondering if it was possible because I was seeking what to add to my shield warden, and sadly it seem I cannot put acid coating on it whoch would have been dope.Also as a random sidenoye>Want to save melinda because I heard there was a subsequent quest with her>Manage to do so>The stairs are in sight, with only a corridor going away>A fucking unique shaloren guard is there>Manage to almost kill the bastard without any damage to her>Fucking bastard decide to do some teleport with aoe which obliterate the poor girl instantlyGod fucking damnit
>>553170214Every non-antimagic character runs dissipation rune for the final bosses, there's some debate on exactly when to use it and keep it on the rest of the game>>553181184You can dig a spiral tunnel, a backwards capital letter G is enough, and teleport or run very fast out of. Melinda's (lack of) pathfinding will just try and fail to walk to the right and you can clear the floor and rest to full HP/resources between fights at your leisureThis and master zigzag tunnels, sometimes urkis if the build doesnt have its shit together by 20, are the only major cheese/nethack bullshit I do
>>553181184There is like 1 single steamtech that can be added to the shield, it's high level and not very strong so forget it
>>553188058Not that it matter because I got btfo in Vor Pride because the final boss decided to spawn inside the very first room of level 3, alongside the door keeping elite/unique. But thanks anyway for the heads up.
>>553189226How are you already in Vor? You're supposed to do the "There and back again" quest in the far east to return to the West, then check the T1 and T2 for new bosses before doing other Eastern areas.
>>553189679I had done it all, was 42'ish went it happened. Like if it had been any other orcs id have btfo them or even alone id have defeates him, but the combination of 2 hefty bosses who does 400 dmg or more on average per turn did me in. In retrospect I should have went for gormorsh pride or whatever the name is first, oh well that what I get for being too ambitious, not that the first 2 levels were any trouble to deal with.
>>553191770If you get camped and know you can't fight it out, leave the staircase, reorder your points so you can get high level teleport and bypass them. This way you can clear the rest of the area and get more space to fight them later.
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what. why is there fire. all i did was fire regu-wait a second. can fucking 5.56 TRACER set buildings on fucking fire now?
>>553209729I've seen it cause the on fire status on zombs so I don't see why it can't light a flammable surface.
>>553210815motherfucker
>>553209729Pretty sure they mention starting fires in the description.
And in.Time to add a few thousand to my kill count probably, after bring my base in above the nearest sewer entrance.
>>553216280finding the sewer entrance is the hardest part
>>553216280I just discovered one of those in my recent run. Didn't even know they were a thing, I just find all the sewer accesses inside buildings sus and combed the sewers until bam. Are irradiated wanderers supposed to be a sign of a vault? I don't have a lot of experience under my belt yet.
>>553086514Since you brought that up, I noticed this.I can assure you, the finger laser doesn't normally do this much dmg.
>>553218974I've only ever saw them in two places, in and around the necropolis (so above and in the vault) and there is some gas station special that may or may not still be in the game (its been a long time since I last saw it) that if you check behind it, you'll find a way to go underground to a reactor type bunker thing swarming with them.
>>553219391Should I be checking my rad levels or wearing something radproof and chugging the anti rad tablets? I dunno if I'm secretly killing myself exploring without rad mitigation.
>>553218974you can also identify the Necropolis (The Vault) from the layout of surface buildings, it's very distinctivethere are a few other overmap specials that are interesting, like the Central Lab, the Refugee Farm, the Lumbermill, the aircraft carrier, that one anthill Lab that sucks, the military base, uhhhhh>>553220923the radiation badges work, if it turns blue you're in an area with any radioactivity at all and should bring a geiger counter with youpopping one or two iodine pills every 12 hours or something isn't the worst idea if there's radiation, but I wouldn't know because the last time I did the vault I was wearing power armor and did not give a single fuck
What do you think? Contender for one of the top tier pistols?>>553220923I don't think the wanders actually give you radiation, the gas station special was super irradiated though iirc. It was a reactor though, so that kind of fits.
>>553221458>top tier pistolsGlock 31for everything else I'd rather use a real gun
>>553222950Not a huge fan of glocks, it might just be bad luck but I find they malfunction quite often even when at full bars and clean. It might be different with a glock 31 though? I've been using a 18c.I did take the suggestion for an anon a thread or two back about using them to train up pistols, with the drum mag they are great for that.
>>553223284I have never had a gun malfunction on me in the decade I've played this game
>>553227707Like I said, it might just be bad luck but I've had multiple with my glock 18c. That was with me killing a lot of stuff with it though.
>>553108676Yes. It's just as much of a shithole you should never go to as ever.Millions of zombies for less loot than a single easy lab even with the harder labs mod on. Same could be said of most cata locations.
infinite tummy slashing
>>553239707elaborate
>>553228248>711that's a lot for a gun, I only have ~100 on my coilgunmaybe it's the 100 round drum magazine that's malfunctioning, those things are notoriously unreliable in real lifenope, just checked the JSON and the drum has the same reliability as the regular 15 round magazine
How does Mirror Image work? Does it cast anything that has the "Is: a spell" tag? I tried getting it to use Shadow Veil with me but I don't think it worked.
One free reroll, then I'm going to bed. Save yourselves next time.
>>553165642Ah I thought there was some really nice buffs for it tooI might be thinking of just "Stealth" and Invis is actually from a spell, technically, right?
>>553219108Saw y'all chattin about this so I checked. It's deliberateKind of counterintuitive if you already know how the system should behave but it makes enough sense (mechanically) for what it's trying to do
>>553265459Both stealth and invis are enabled by abilities
Does Blade Flurry apply when using Shadow Veil? I cleared the Room of Death one by one just fine thanks to Mirror Image but died and revived once in the regular boss room because I hit Veil and it threw me in the middle of the room with everything. Probably should've TPed but I tried to power through. If I had Flurry I might cleared it deathless (assuming it applies)
>>553282096all the sustain/passive should apply
>>553266298this is a nice change, fewer massive radius three fires to worry about on my daily drive
I've scoured the code and I don't think any monsters actually regen health in rogue.
Imagine playing games that look better in ASCII with tiles.
>>553297320Despite my superior imagination from playing games in ascii, I still can't imagine that.
How much of a spike in power are the final bosses if I cleared the Orc Prides without any real close calls?
>>553302758The final bosses are weird because often the floors before them are scarier (enemies with pretty much unbounded level cap)As for the fight most of it boils down to how fast you can down one of them. It can feel very easy or very hard depending on your damage.
>>553302965My AOE is good and I've got decent defenses but my single target is really lacking since I'm using Umbral Razor (Tier 2) and a crafted Tier 5 Cold/Acid dagger. Might have to keep searching for better weapons
>>553303851You need physical penetration late game since everything has very high resist. Then +% physical damage and crit stats.
>>553303929My current set-up has 52% Dark and 14% Phys pen and does 760 damage on average to a 50% all resist test dummy with raw attacks. I tried a set of daggers that give me 39% Dark and 39% Phys and it went down to around 670 despite the higher base and more pen. Umbral Razor's 50% darkness conversion is just doing a little too much still, haven't found a decent replacement.
>>553303929>You need physical penetrationooer missus
