Anonymous Edition>Demo daysPrevious: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66Older: (there's no working link for the moment)>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>552805038
Oh wow!
Respond to this post with your 'gress
Rules for you. Not for Gabencunt.
>>552884090He's white. He does what we wants. Deal with it consumer.
>>552884090if hes not declaring i'm not either
>mfw an avatarfag posts his avatar
This what the official(sorry eric doesnt count) most successful game developer of /agdg/ is doing today
>mfw I've added to the image limit without any actual contribution to the thread
Hey /agdg/, i wanna know your thoughts on AI being used for video games and other media.How many of you use AI in your games and how many of you accept AI being used for games!I really wanna know what all of you artists and creatives have to say on the subject!Here, i even made a poll!https://strawpoll.com/7MZ0k3poRgo
>>552884606I'm not clicking on that shit jake the snake
>boaty mc boatface AI #1
>>552884517Keep Teddy out of this
>>552884667It clearly says the website is Straw Poll.
>https://www.fbi.gov/4chan/vg/agdg_complaintsJust want everyone to know, I set up a URL where you can directly send complaints using CURL about this thread. I assure if you send enough, they will be read.
>>552884606Did God give you permission to post in this thread?
>>552884346nepoo wanted that office life so bad
>>552884090I'm so glad i decided to ditch Deadlock.First the fanbase got overrun with competitive esports try hards and now the devs can't even figure out their own match making. The new designs aren't so great either, just band and average.
>>552884260Based gogem
>>552884606Holy shit it's the future owner of 4chan. I kneel. I repent. God and Jake fucking won.
>>552884883Yes.
>>552884606You can also join the discord https://discord.gg/7n3axvwrTc and let jake know your opinion there since he’s just doing it to argue with me :^)
>Jake's gets banned from the /v/3 discord>Suddenly pops back in the threads I take it back Betz you should've kept him in there.
>who are those people?>sound like a bunch of nodev namefags
>>552885346No i'm doing it because i know you're wrong.If you're going to share your Discord server don't deceive people while doing it.
>>552885491Oh no, i would have done this no matter what.I don't even know why he banned me. He said he wouldn't.
How bad is this overdraw? It's for a mobile game.
>>552883759Been working on a dangerous ennemy for my next (and third commercial) game.Look at this face.That smile is the smile of a killer.
>2pm wake up>eat breakfast>2:30pm start working>10:30pm finish working>eat dinner>11pm go to gym>12pm back home>goon sesh>1am shower>1:30am log on>1:30am - 4am shitposting in /agdg/>sleepthere is literally 0 time in the day to dev
Ugh.. Kalemovosissies?
>>552886125It doesn't matter. Just test on a physical low-to-medium spec device and go by feel (minimize frame drops during peak usage moments).
>>552886341Any press is good press
The /v/3 game jam is Feb. 1st-7th! Vote on the required modifiers Jan. 27th-29th! https://itch.io/jam/v3jamWe already have (7) signups and we want (you)! What are some modifiers/required mechanics we have you guys vote on when the time comes?
>>552884941You are pretty active today did something happen
>>552884874Are you trying to get Kannadev get sent to prison?
>>552887618you have to make all the sfx for your game with your mouth
>>552887769>complaining about pedophiles to a government run by pedophilesHe's trying to get Kannadev into politics.
No, we're working with the lawyers on that front so that any data that transits the State of Texas is subject to Texas law. 4chan being a service provider, isn't liable for the things the user posts, so any user who posts loli to 4chan can get a warrant in Texas for transmitting lewd and illegal material through the State of Texas.
>>552887618>gamejam and I have to jump through your random hoops toothis sounds like some unemployed nonsenseIf I had time for that I'd spend it on my own game
>>552888160Just need one more state in on the scheme, and then we have federal and inter-state charges, and we can just pick anyone up in a helicopter from any country for whatever reason.
Gabencunt has took his pay...
>>552884874>yeah lets spam the fbi what could go wrongthe things that crabs do to stop others do their own thing never ceases to amaze me
the normies want shovelware, anon, you need to make shovelware!! do your market analysis now and ship a game in 3 months!!
>>552888068Damn that's a good one actually >>552888208>If
>>552886341my honest reaction
Almost done
>>552889824How bad is the writing in this vn?
>>552889824This nigga knows how to bait the video essay crowd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GqPwHm0nmoWhy didnt you chase trends anon.. you could have one of the largest youtubers advertising you for free
>>552890364what does Japanese cartoons have to do with it?
>>552890364
>>552891176everything
set up my patreon tiers today for my yandere simulator clone
>>552893065It should be:>5 bucks: no porn>10 bucks: softcore lewds>15 bucks: hardcore lewds
>>552894019Unrecord and Bodycam. Unrecord still has no release date. Meanwhile, the Bodycam kids shipped an asset flip in the same aesthetic style (i.e. the style of an Unreal asset flip) and made bank. Just like ship games, dumbass.
>>552894019>That takes time and sharing it too early risks a cloner if its popular enough and someone is willing to clone.you're more likely to get killed by a drunk driver or get cancer than for someone to clone your unreleased game.you're more likely to shit yourself in public too, but you're not walking around wearing a diaper.what's far more likely is you won't realize you've spent 5% of your productive years on a ngmi unappealing game.
>>552889085dropping a big secret here so you are all aware of a new meta soon to come: the moment world level models start making games you retards won't be able to break ten reviews. players will start asking whether it's an ugly fart knocker living with his grandmother or a model on his way to the set for some photos
Progress:Endslides finished up, next up - beer arc
>>552894840are you telling the same to movie studios, musicians, writers, streamers, youtubers and onlywhores?
>>552888306Apparently, he is working on Deadlock now.
but I heard Deadlock used AI for the match making algorithm. Do we like hopoo or not xisters? I forgot.
>27 million dollar budget>Many people doing art, sound, music, and assisting with coding>PublisherWhat's the limit of "indie"?
>>552897887>Braid got a lot of sales because it was a platformer>The Witness got a lot of sales because it was a first person adventure gameHis new game is a pure puzzle game. It doesn't have the extra layer of appeal like his previous games.
>Sell your IP to Randy Bitchford>Have enough money to start a studio and make whatever you want>Join Valve to fix bugs on mobaslop insteadManlets...
>>552897887>>27 million dollar budget>>Many people doing art, sound, music, and assisting with coding>>Publisher>What's the limit of "indie"?
>>552897887Star Citizen is indie.
>>552898412Nope. If James Hetfield dropped out of Metallica and started his own record label and folk band, they would not be indie.
>During a Gold Rush, sell shovels. In an RL Scaling Boom, sell RL environments. More than 35 companies have popped up whose goal is to do exactly this across a variety of domains.why aren't you wrapping your game with AI controls? Dont know how?/
>>552898274He gets paid by Valve 50 million dollars every year. For codemonkey tier work.
>>552897887"Indie" is a meaningless word now, time to move underground
>>552898236I think it does, though. It's pretty, and it's a Jon Blow game. And people still buy Sokoban games if they are good.
>>552898531IDK who that is, but they would be. "Indie" means "independent", not "made by retards with no skills, no experience, and no resources". Starting your own record label is the definition of being "independent".
I'm making a game with a web interface where you can use the AI to mod and add anything you want. First one to finish wins.
>>552898987>"Indie" means "independent"After all these years... I finally understand.
>>552898987You see, Chris Roberts, of Wing Commander fame has connections and an industry recognized name that would preclude him from being considered an independent developer, apart from the billion budget and 300 person team.
>>552897887I think we now use the labels i, ii, iii.So instead of Triple A is Triple I.
>>552899313Triple III is pure hikikomori kino only.
>>552899242III is still indie. They just have more independence than you ever will.
Next big game
>>552899687Redpill me on singletons.
>IT'S NOT A TRUE INDIE IF THE GAME WASN'T MADE BY AN ESL BRAZILIAN USING RPG MAKEREvery time
alright, holiday break is over. Time to make one of the best games ever made. 4 years of work in 1 year.
>>552883759Reduced jump and dash speeds to make them less jarring and easier to learn.Added diagonal jumpsAdded a new stance that lets you perform any DP action with 1 button after a .6s charge.Completely rewrote my literal first week of coding special input script and now certain common missed inputs count as valid.Added up to 50% to all input buffer times.Added a dedicated dash button, which I'm not sure how to balance still. Doesn't really translate too well on video, but at least you can see the new stance.
>>552899884If you pray hard enough while calling .new, you might be able instantiate more than one hardware device driver, but probably not.
>>552900129Huge GMI energy from this oneLove the animations and art style
>>552899083tell us more, anon
>>552885346lol this faggot would ban you from the discord and deny everything
>>552899946Who's even saying that?
>>552884874based
>>552900915>This faggotWho are you referring to? Is this another namefag situation?
>>552900663There's other people working on it too, I'm sure we're all doing separately but the exact same way. If you know how, you know how. It's just like plumbing but with 1's and 0's.
If you can fix a toilet you can make a video game. You guys are all useless.
>>552901260yeah, discord
>>552901461>If you can fix a toilet you can make a video game.
>>552901484I clicked on the discord link and it says "/agdg/+" what the fuck is that?
>>552901772the personality disorder discords rabbit hole only goes deeper and deeper
>>552900663>tell us moreIt starts with keeping your assets very organized and keeping up to date descriptions and metadata paired with each asset. Engines are going to have to be reworked to a data/asset first approach. Here is my pile of assets, design document, compile it. Basically.
>it works
>>552902080The type of prototypes I knock out in a week, I'll be able to do in a day once the framework is finished. I have all my assets on my local dev webserver, where they are requested into the engine at load time. The engine is just playback tool that gets fed the up to date game files from the webserver.
>>552900129>2D platformer game with fighting game inputs>except the fighting inputs are for movement>doesnt even have double tap to dashmy brother in christ what are you doing
>>552902461Since the assets and scripts are all sitting on a server with 48GB of VRAM, they can be modified almost instantly on the fly and fed right back into my engine without having restart the game.
>>552902683I'm limiting everything to 400x300 resolution and likely 256x256 textures for testing and and to save on compute costs. The finished games it will output will be similar to IBM VGA or Amiga games in quality and scope. You will still have to read and manipulate some basic code to get exactly what you want.
>>552902268the new onion address for you to relapse?
>>552900129>>552902542photon blade, paloo spiral and landsword all have very talented artists but you can tell they know nothing about game design. Its 2025 and pretty graphics or art won't save your game anymore, especially when the gameplay is shit
>>552903052It's gonna be expensive to let other people play with this shit. I definitely don't want to deal with a rack of these in my house, computers literally can't get any smaller due to physics. Cloud AI is the future.
They're just doing it dumb like always because of corporate America. Giant data centers, when they should be dispersed in each city and town for low latency.
>>552903318The what?
>>552903052>You will still have to read and manipulate some basic code to get exactly what you want.Luckily, Crabjak is right there calling you a faggot then fixing your code.
>>552903950
>>552900549Thanks man>>552902542>>552903641Reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDyHqwyHWGwlmao
https://x.com/dilumsanjaya/status/2008584593222652057Why are you still manually coding or modeling or texturing or rigging? In 2026 this is equivalent to writing a game in assembly
>dilumsanjayaI think I smell an Indian.....
>>552897887where does jon get all his money
>another indie studio with massive success goes bankrupt https://youtu.be/G0iKIqEaOis
>>552905882A lot of Aggy anons will suffer the same fate btwDon't get cocky
building my game using C and Vulkan.decided to use VMA for the memory management.I am integrating VMA as we speak.
>>552905882b-but my skillsb-but my fanbasesface it: nothing matters except whether you win the appeal lottery
>>552905882this happened because they tried to live off the back of a 2D pixel platformer for like a decade. you need to actually release games.what happened to the puzzle spinoff of shovel knight? i remember seeing it when it was announced and then never again. someone from here got hired to work on it if i remember right.
>>552905882tl;dwdo they have a gay LA office that costs a billion dollars each day?
Making ui is real cock and balls torture
>>552905882>>552906326They took too long to release their games after Shovel Knight Dig. Dig also felt like a mobile game. When you take too long to release a product, you waste more money on it and lose fans to other similar products as they wait for yours.
gamer genocide when?
>>552906326>b-but my skills>b-but my fanbases>face it: nothing matters except whether you win the appeal lottery
>>552906958with the notable difference of some guys actually liking cock and ball torture
>>552905113Game sales, I guess. He also got some money from the publisher to get the game finished.
>>552903641Landsword is fun to play thougheverbeit armchair game designer
>>552907080I fucking hate when some youtuber calls for a boycott so people who already stopped playing the game (after hundreds of hours) leave a negative review and never change it.
>>552901353>There's other people working on it too, I'm sure we're all doing separately but the exact same way.true that
>>552908304uh oh the trannies are going to have a meltie over this
>>552907080Inshallah we will all go down in the great 4chan purge
>>552906924They rode the Shovel Knight high for too long without making any attempt diversify their portfolio. Also Mina the Hollower is suffering from massive scope and feature creep (Looking at you Bokudev)
Who is making a HypnoSpace Outlaw clone since Dreamsettler was axed before they even started.
There's not enough games where you play as the villain.
>>552908751Hatred 2 when
>>552908860not a villian, in the lore the "innocents" are actually gang stalkers
>>552908641who is this retard?
>>552908310>>552901353There was at least three anons mentioning similar stuff in recent threads. This is stuff is plaguing the internet already. One of you is doomed to make money because people WILL pay for chatgpt wrappers but I really hope you all get cancer and die. And its always the same fuckin UI.https://tickforge.io/
>>552907080>he thinks this is badYou ain't seen nothing.
>>552905882Let me guess.They tried to live an upper middle class living standart in one of the most expensive cities in USA for a decade.
>>552908923>makes inflammatory game to invoke controversy >cant even commit to the bit and blunts it through loreSAD!
>>552909336Correct. They rented an expensive office in LA just before Covid hit, and were stuck paying for it even during lockdown
>>552909416i just made that up
>>552909862What's so special about LA and new york, when you can have a better experience with a cheaper citie in a flyover state?
>>552910129The education and access to an educated workforce. Game dev is a lot harder than fitting bumpers on an F-150 at a Ford plant for $150k a year for the unions.
>>552910129Coke and whores
medieval europe GTA
I worked cattle too as well as game dev. Ya'll don't do shit for thinking work unless you're talking about football, lazy dumb asses.
>>552910129its a completely different experience to physically be around people that you can converse with about tech topics. then again that causes ideas to converge, so being in a small town with only imageboards is more like the galapagos islalnds
>>552910884i hope you get stuck with an aids needle the second you step into the cattledome
>>552910368>>552910884>You need to be physically near to talk about gamedev when the internet exist????Do first worlders really?You know you can still have a team living in a much cheaper city?
>>552911181There's money involved, I need to know where you live.
>>55291118199% of email I receive is from third worlders trying to steal my money already.
>>552911181Being in person allows for faster communication. Online teams are fun until your programmer won't respond to you on Discord for days on end.
>>552911181there is much less shitposting in conversations
>>552910509Kingdom Come Deliverance already exists, anon. Try again.
>>552911948>>552911792>>552911467>>552911297why not live in a cheaper city?Why does it need to be the most expensive city on USA and most expensive cities on the planet?
>>552911181yeah because a lot of dev is bumping elbows with people and thats harder to do online
>>552912129every city has a different culturesome cities have no gamedev scene and other ones have massive gamedev scenes
>>552912129>More expensive city = More qualified people and business opportunitiesIt may be stupid but it's not really hard to understand the reasoning.Also this >>552912353
>>552910509Rustler
>>552912129>why not live in a cheaper city?Every step down has 10x the citiesso 1/10th the like minded individualswhat do you think the game development scene is like in Albuquerque?
>>552910129>>552912129>why not live in a cheaper city?Because if you have the means to live in the city, its unparalleled.When you "make it" as a programmer or dev you can afford to live in the big boy cities. Why the fuck would you go live in some dump somewhere else?Everyone knows about scope creep, well lifestyle creep is very real too.They will all get jobs on other dev teams and keep their standard of living just fine.
>There are no talented people outside the most expensive cities in USAI always find funny this, since I live in a small town in a third world country, and some of my anime friends IRL in my town convention had more raw skill and talent than the so called top names of the industry.
>>552913095You don't know what it takes to make a video game in the industry, your bumfuck thirdy friends aren't impressive
>>552912742This Alberquerque Game Development Group thread seems pretty active.
>>552912575I had people boughted last night with your mother
>>552913095The most expensive cities also have by far the highest wages.If you have talent, you know you pretty much have to move to those cities to get those jobs.Remote work is new, and is already being axed by actual FAANG companies.You dont get hired out of fucking ohio to work on a real dev team. You work your way up networking along the way.This is how real dev jobs actually work
>>552913095Where are their games?
>>552913503Bastard bitch
>You need the best people on the industry to make an agdg game
>>552913981I mean have you SEEN the retards that populate this general? I wouldn't work with 80% of you guys even if my life depended on it.
>>552913095>I always find funny thisESL thirdie with no game
>>55291407575% of the people here are just fucking NEETs, they want to label themselves "indie gamedevs" to cope with being unemployed.
>>552913095>my anime friends IRLChat what does it mean
>>552914548
>>552914548heheheheh you're right on the moneynot that I make any
>>552884346I never liked RoR
>>552887618AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>552887618pathetic troon
>>552916592>>552917083Is this really the best you can come up with
>>552898895i like this idea. underground sounds like a better title for real independent games, but what if an "underground" game becomes popular? it no longer is underground but still indepentent
>>552917269
>>552919341
>>552918541"Former underground"? Once it becomes popular it does not need any titles anyway
>>552908614>Deleted postWhat did anon post? >>552908972Lets be nice now.
By the way is anyone looking for a story writer and/or a script designer?
>>552921710I'd love one! I'm making a game where you go back in time and kill Jesus. I'd love a writer!
>>552923576Let me guess, you're from Betz' server?
Reminder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSXofLK5hFQ
>>552924393this version is betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWqnz-7iQbY
>>552924739wronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m-EaYeDMqw
pretty happy with my newer level.
>>552924393>he look like mario in the futureGets me everytime
Okay, I'm debating whether to go all-in on the stylistic inspiration of the game or try something else.I'm debating between>Actual PS2-y cutscenes>2D animated cutscenes
i find it weird that there's this massive trend of talking about motivation and discipline, yet they never really tell you what their goal is. it's like functioning just to function. if they'd at least say stuff like "i want to inhabit mars" or "i want to make my wife and kids rich" or stuff like that. but it's always just about "being good" and i have no idea what they even want to be good for.it's like tuning your computer to high end performance and then doing absolutely nothing with it, because it was just about making the computer as performant as you can.instead of talking "how to get motivated to dev more" the goal should actually be "what would be cool games to make? what's actually exciting, fun, cool, hot, ridiculous, insane etc."
>>552927031>but it's always just about "being good" and i have no idea what they even want to be good forthat's because you're subhuman
>>552927031you need intuition to comprehend what is (metaphysically) good and what isnt
>>552927031i get what you mean anon. You're saying figuring out what to be good for is equally important as finding the power to achieve it. It's a good thing to wonder about. Answer will differ per person.
where are the lolidevs?
>>552929874Stop using that gif. I don't want a cute gif to be associated with your degeneracy.
I got lazy and did nothing yesterday.Today I actually did something: pseudo-random room generation. It's not the best, but it'll do for now.
Demo day fanart/collage. Just like last time, to make sure people can recognize everyone, some things were taken out of the front pages. I played a lot of demos this time and left some feedback too. Lots of awesome demos this demo day.This time, all 51 entries are in. No one was left out. Even the prototypes. Some entries were pretty damn hard to put in. See that big grey rat on the middle? That's supposed to be an enemy from MRPG. I also tried to color it this time and I think it was a fun experiment, even if it's a bit hard to spot everyone now.I wonder if most devs are even still around, I ought to be really late by now. Sorry if I forgot someone (impossible, I hope) or if I misinterpreted the sprites like last time. Good night.
>>552883310We need to wage war on AI luddites, because they're so stuck with their decaying technology they still haven't caught up to the latest hot technology such as "google search" and "ctrl-f"
>>552930507AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
>>552930507KINO be grateful I skipped this dd otherwise there will be no fanart
>>552930507unfathomably based
>>552930507damn, I come back from a long haitus just to see thisgood to see you're all still goingand great art
>>552930262this brings me backI did exactly this on like my second or third day of gamedevthat was exactly five years ago...
>>552921710Are you willing to use a typewriter in an isolate room, on livestream during all working hours so I know you havent touched chatgpt?Principle matters to me and my customers
>>552930924lol anon goddamn it
>>552883310Do shurikens stand out too much?Previously this enemy throwed lowpoly knives, so this not so new to the game.
I have functions for printing synsets and hypernynms for words. I used this so I could make a list of synsets for in game actions and I will soon use it for in game objects. but recompiling with a new function input is dumb so I incorporated this function as a "define" command. Once I set up debug and release builds, "define" will be debug only.>>552899884True C gangsters don't use it because when they need a single global instance, they simplystruct MyStruct{...};struct MyStruct my_struct;>>552930507Nice work!
>>552931889They look perfect if you can pick them up.
>>552932179forgot image
>>552930507took me forever to find my character kek Good work anon!
>>552930507looks really nice
we live in a time where you want to bake a cake and instead of people giving you a good recipe and explaining how to make a good cake, they give you a motivational speech to bake cake harder and to bake cake all day. it's like pretending to teach without teaching anything.never had a teacher in school giving me motivational speeches, they just gave me knowledge.
>>552934218>makes people feel good>brings people backYou make more money with clicks that way.
I need 100+ 64x64 pixel art icons made. What's the going rate? How much would be a ripoff for that?
Here is a link the repo, current changes have been committed.https://codeberg.org/FroggyGreen/tae/src/branch/trunkI think it is finally time to implement an entity system.
if you don't feel excited. focus on learning. nothing more exciting than learning. acquiring knowledge is insane dopamine fuel. pretend you are some sort of scientist building an army to conquer space and that every piece of knowledge can enhance your chances of winning. nothing worse than an existence where you prefer triviality over learning.
>>552930507Amazing work anon, very high effort!
>>552934935>What's the going rate?$25 monthly AI subscription
Eric came back out at the end of the night!
>>552930507kill yourself pedophile.
>>552930507
>>552930507incredible work anon, thank you
>>552930507yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo thanks thanks thanks you're the best
>>552930507where's arma dev...
>>552930507SNUBBED AGAIN! WHERES MY FAN ART!!!! WHERE IS IT!!!!?!?!?
does jesse schells book get better or is the whole book about him trying to convince himself that what he writes is true just by being very confident about it? haven't read a paragraph of scientific evidence, logic or proving anything yet. just him being overly confident about whatever comes to his mind. maybe it gets better... i'll just give it a chance and keep reading.
>>552939428If they snubbed crabjak, they'll snub anyone.
would a maid cafe game be a good idea if I'm not japanese?
>>552939936Explain maid cafe to me like I'm a middle aged white man to lazy to google it.
>>552940236a cute girl wearing a cute anime maid costume serves customers pastries and drinks
>>552940458Make it American cartoon style with bartenders you can fuck slinging imitation bud lights.
>>552930507Very cool !!! Thank you anon !!!
>>552940568yeah I'm thinking of making it about a regular barista instead... with huge bazongas and shit
>>552939936Yes we need more maid cafes
>>552940867Yeah you got it. Light on the anime face if you want that lonely 35+ demographic.
>>552936357would
>>552936357what a chad
>>552942437>$59.99>Lowest Recorded Price -34% $39.59
>>552930507Incredibly based. Great art
>>552942437Noisy Pixel is clearly a paid transaction. I really don't know why anyone would pay for their review.
>he's calling hopoo a nepo baby nowlol
>>552934218>we live in a time where you want to bake a cake and instead of people giving you a good recipe and explaining how to make a good cake, they give you a motivational speech to bake cake harder and to bake cake all day. it's like pretending to teach without teaching anything.But enough about Ai spammers700 posts a day telling 4chan to use AI, zero posts about workflows or how it actually applies to gamedev.
>>552931150Oh dude i get it, i hate AI myself.I am willing to do a Discord call and screen share so you can watch me write down dialog and scripts in real time.
>>552943876Wanna make a vote?https://strawpoll.com/7MZ0k3poRgo
>>552943665nepoo is a fun pun
>>552943876What workflow? Put your shit in folders and use JSON structures as metadata describing each file. It's text, it works with text.
If you are copying and pasting AI generated text into your projects, you already so far behind what agentic AI programming is doing, you might as well be writing assembly. You can already take your asset structure and scripts from any engine, provide metadata and context to Claude Code or Github Copilot, and will come up with an entire plan on how to implement your project in whatever language you want. You just need to provide it the structure and instructions to get started.
>>552944723Learning how to use git properly helps a lot, because you will fuck your shit up and need restore your codebase to a prior point whether you are using AI or not.
>>552944723if you are still scrubbing your ass with your hand, you are so far behind what AI asswiping is doing, you might as well be twerking to clean your ass. You can already take moss from the ground and use that to scrub your ass.
Someone asked about AI workflow, the workflow is use the proper tools for the proper job. Use an IDE or code editor with built in AI functionality. The workflow part is already done, they don't need to reinvent that, they just need to learn to use the right tools.
Do any of you know what it feels like to be so worthless an untalented despite studying and creating shit for 15 years? It's so beyond over I'm about to just stop because 15 years is when ANYONE should be a pro, that's their PEAK meaning downhill from there. Meaning I already suck and am likely to now get worse instead of better.
>>552934218The problem is a cake is very specific and has a set recipe. A game has absolutely no recipe. You can make malware and call it a game.
>>552945780A game has recipe, you're not a developer so you don't know how to read it.
>>552944723>If you are copying and pasting AI generated text into your projects, you already so far behind what agentic AI programming is doing, you might as well be writing assembly. You can already take your asset structure and scripts from any engine, provide metadata and context to Claude Code or Github Copilot, and will come up with an entire plan on how to implement your project in whatever language you want. You just need to provide it the structure and instructions to get started.
>source code literally describes the game in mathematical expressions so it can be executed by a computer>recipes literally describe ingredients using mathematical expressions so they can be baked into a cake
>>552945654You're supposed to figure all this out after 15 weeks, not 15 years.
It's bait, he knows the hard part is doing work.
>>552945879There are guidelines.Keep your style consistent. Show the player when things change and add lots of effects to further portray things happening.That sort of thing.There are no measured quantities, set times in the oven, chemical reactions.It's all just guidelines like "you make a cake with something fatty, something glutenous, something sweet"
>>552946348You're talking about design, not development. Design happens before development or during the prototype stage.
If you guys want to rename the next thread the /amateur game design general/, I'll leave.
>>552946430Design is an iterative process, even if you want to get the core principles down early.Besides, even just drawing an asset isn't a recipe. You can have a design document talking about the artstyle but it's definitely not a recipe.
>>552946567Art and design, it sets the requirements for development, but it's not game development.
https://www.patreon.com/LustyBuccaneersThis one piece AI slop hentai VN makes 10k per month on patreon.
>>552930507artist here. feeling jealous. great job
Like you think you can just pretend the software development part of video game production doesn't exist, even with AI it's not going to happen. You need knowledge of existing software development practices to properly prompt the AI. If the developer didn't need to be a dedicated position, you wouldn't need to use an engine.
>>552946761Proves how depraved and low standards gooners are.How many are supporting it? I wanna know if it's thousands of people or a small group of whales.Either way it's sad for humanity that we have sunk this low and Shonen Jump should sue due to AI being plagiarist. Among other things.
>>552947062like around 1.1k gooners.
am getting scared brobros...https://x.com/DilumSanjaya/status/2008584593222652057
>>552946761Jerking it to AI slop I can understand but paying for AI slop? Just lol.
>>552947340Now let's see the gameplay
a game designer is like an intellectual academic trying to lecture a real gardener how to organize his garden. i absolutely hate and despise game designers. it's a pseudo-science. it's completely bullshit and almost similar to astrology and tarot.all good games are made by game developers and not by game designers.
>>552947340I need faces. I suppose you can gen a head separately and glue it on. I don't need the AI image gen part though. I'm better than AI in that regard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvIHUxQylhcThis is you.
>>552944376>What workflow?The one I'm going to use and never tell you about.
>>552930507guh
>>552947880no this is me>Who cares about character sheets or how this shit's gonna turn out. Just write the damn thing. Write the fucking dumb shit in a $2.50 spiral notebook and let it be as dumb, garbage, ass, and stupid as possible. Like seriously, here's the catch: THAT'S THE FUCKING FIRST DRAFT! FUCKING FUCK NO DEV SHIT BULLSHIT MOTHER FUCKER>Error: Comment too long (2090/2000).
>>552947304So that's gotta be around $10 per gooner correct?Or is my math off?Either way i still find that to be sad.
>TFW you feel the post DD depression ending and your motivation returning tenfold
>>552947839As a programming and art main and not a nodev like you I can still acknowledge that game design is a separate skill to programming and art. However a 'game designer' that has no practical skills is just an ideaguy
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>>552947880watched the video and the problem is low testosterone. thinking "i should be doing <anything>" is deeply feminine and submissive behavior. also doing things because you wanna be a good boy is sub behavior.high t solution: do nothing unless you want to and do shit because it's cool and funny and not because you want validation.also to me nothing's more fun than learning and improving. it's like i have my personal evolution by learning more techniques and skills. it's like being some sort of mutant and new arms and brains are growing out of my body. it's like i'm extending my bodily functions.the problem is that modern men want to become homos instead of goblin-maxxing into a mutant super villain.
>>552947863I would post a solution but I'm done spoonfeeding I need to make it myself first. I did post it years ago here though.
>>552947062It says there on the page. 1400though it's likely higher than that because people come and go, so patreon profits are a little bit above what it shows.>>552946761Porn games don't care about quality. They care about>Market reach (a lot of highly successful ones go for milquetoast fetishes and popular IPs, i.e. NTR, femboy. One Piece, or most things Zone puts out.)This goes for every aspect of porn. If you want to make it big on twitter, mass produce holoslop and whatever the FOTM is.But that's the soulless part. The other things are>lots of cross promotionals>aggressively frequent updates>long-term commitmentI don't think Cr*s could handle any of the above requirements.
Would this dialog box (and the name box at the top left) look better with a border around it?
>>552948737I already have the solution.
>>552947839>(popular gamedev)? Yeah, he's a game designer. He doesn't know the hard work that I put in at the triangle factory making triangles all day. He does stuff like... think of concepts. The fact he has a game at all is a miracle, it must've formed itself out of pure, sheer will to spite me.
>>552948618>thinking "i should be doing <anything>" is deeply feminine and submissive behaviorNot this again.
>>552948981Todd Howard has never worked a day in his life, just look at his hands!
think of every gamedev skill you acquire as a weapon that shoots deadly projectiles at filthy stinky monsters that try to keep you a poor loser. arsenalmaxxing is fucking based.
>>552948863>mixels*vomits* y-yeah.... it would look n-nice...
>>552948863I don't know but you should make the text scrolling smoother by advancing only 1 character every few frames (it depends on the speed you want). Your problem is that you're advancing more than 1 character at a time and that just bothered me when watching.
AI is for talentless hacks who couldn't cut it.
>>552935192>>552949371Applied knowledge is the most important thing. Minimal knowledge when applied, minimal skill when applied has allowed faker 'til makers like myself to monkebranch many jobs.
>>552949798I have Clementine running all day.
A few random ideas.>>552949530It's just temporary.>>552949720The default is two characters per frame, but you can increase it or decrease it if you want.
>>552948863Yeah. You could make it a lot prettier. Fun dialogue btw.
Changing the background (clear color) in Godot doesn't fucking work. It works in the editor, but doesn't when you run the project. The setting is not saved. This has been broken since 3.4 with no fix in sight.
>>552950085Top right is the best one 100%.
>>552950085two at the top look best
>>552949798Prompt engineering is a skill that I've spent years honing. I'd say I'm a pretty talented AI art director personally.
>>552950085I like bottom left the most, but none of them look too good anyway. Try more styles. Also you could make it a player option like the text speed.Btw the text speed should be in time between each character appearing instead of how many characters appear at a time.
Story? Just do something like this. It doesn't even have to be about orcs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AnOWp0lG1s>start from nothing>bash something>get bashed>hero arc where player is now a leader of some kind>next campaign begins>fight the grand leader or attempt to >go to even bigger campaign>die/end story
>>552950521>Also you could make it a player option like the text speed.I was definitely thinking of doing this, kind of like Gen 3 Pokemon.>the text speed should be in time between each character appearingI don't understand this.
>>552950085top right feels good. I suggest a little bit of overlap for the name plate.
which engine would be easiest to pickup and make those indie horror games like fears to fathom, shift at midnight and hapunan?
>>552951240unity
>>552951240>fears to fathomunity>shift at midnightunreal>hapunan?unity
>>552951334>>552951413i thought Godot was the Unity killer
>>552948363Two-extremes ping-ponging, excellent psychological warfare.
>>552951596godot still hasn't caught up to unity 2018
>>552951108Would it look better with a little bit of "noise" to it, like the results at the end of the webm?good pun btw.
>>552877895>I FINISH my game. And then I UPLOAD it to Steam. And then I BEGIN promoting it. And I Get banned? You get banned. Buy an ad, no advertising allowed, bye bye make a new account and start your marketing campaign again from scratch grifter.It's crazy how hard you guys try to deny the validity of STANDARDS as they are applied in INDUSTRIES. Marketing is done the way Zukowski promotes because he observes successful devs and sees they are the ones DOING the same thing. They are making the standard. You are not special for ignoring the standard, you're just another statistic used to reinforce the standard.
>>552952127I do find line boil in dialog boxes charming. so long as the speed of that animation is comfy
Article TWO section FIVE from the GAME DEV SUCCESS LADDER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WezMZrk32M4You DO make a demoYou DO NOT wait until your game costs money to begin promoting it (that's called being a literal shill and will get you SHADOW BANNED if not DELETED) Understood? Your DEMOISYOUR LAUNCHLIVE ITLEARN ITLOVE IT
I will be CAPITALIZING certain WORDS for EMPHASIS
give gamers what they want
>>552952654FURTHERMORE as seen CLEARLY in the attached IMAGEYou should be CONTINUING PRODUCTION of your game even AFTER you have launched your demo. Not finishing your game after 5 years then making your demo then shilling it to see if you made good thing. That's ook ook zug zug caveman retardation. We cook with FIRE now
>>552952913gamers explicitly do not want fat bitches though
>>552952654thanks zukjeet.
>>552883310Hey bros. I was lurking the generals after a long time , I used to check them on /v/, and I found out there's a very cool and hot RPG game of an astronaut and a monkey girl and other stuff that isn't well documented since there's very few webms of it.it's called Frozen Soil by Fungolem and it seems he deleted or privated it because I get 404.https://fungolem.itch.io/frozen-soilPLEASE ANONS! Can anyone offer a reupload. I would appreciate if you use workupload if it's a really heavy game. If not, catbox is fine.
Sir?SIRTHIS IS a place of BUSINESS.
>>552953659https://youtu.be/etA46OgdW4Q&t=97
>2 solid weeks of productivity >5 months of "I'll get back to it eventually"how do I make myself to start working again
>>552883310
>>552953494I remember this dev, I can't believe he's gone...
>>552953946Don't think of it as work, think of it as a compulsion that you must do.You know why you must do it? Because you're clearly thinking often about it. It's a desire and it's bursting within you. That's not "work", it's an itch that needs to be scratched. So scratch it and stop savoring the anxiety it causes like some kind of pervert.
>>552953972>isekaiIt's a genre as shitty as gacha (vidya), so it figures that slop made it to the top.
>>552953972
>>552953494I saved this because I was interested in the backgrounds.is the dev really gone? what happened?
>>552954863I don't know. I just want to play the game demo in whatever latest state it was. T_T
>>552953494>>552954863game is very likely not coming back, unfortunately
>>552955214I'll go in and share my game with TAA
>>552955390That's not even the same person.
>>552955985yeah I'm just saying shit I have no clue what you're talking about
designing some guys
>>552955390>>552956078
>>552956306cool. alchemicool
>>552956631CGI turned filmmaking to shit so he's not entirely wrong
>>552956914i should've made a 2d game
>>552951596Unity is the Unity killer but like, in a bad way
>>552957021CGI was okay for a few years in the mid 2000s when we finally had the technology to make it look good and it was still only being done by a couple western studios. It went to shit again after it all got outsourced to punjabiland.
>>552957021>CGI turned filmmaking to KINOfixedI know there's a difference between movies and film but fixed
>>552957027yep. i know that feel
Going into every main level in the game and linking their save data stuff with the level select scene in the full game so it will show you each diamond you collected from each level. Tedious grind work mind you needing to go into every level and click on its diamond and link it to the level select 3D diamond UI object.
>>552957384>movie famous for it's practical effects is an example of why CGI is good if they made Jurassic Park today it would look like marvelshit
>>552957718I think it's funny that you let 2025 come and go and yet you act like that never happened.I also think it's funny how you ran away from home, came back, and act like nothing ever happened.
I let 2025 come and go too. It tried to stop it, but I couldn't fly around the equator in reverse fast enough
I don't like that Bokudev is alive but I'll be sad to see him die
>retards still don't know that the cheapest workflows always win because they're cheaper and the average npc doesn't care about quality
>>552948618>watched the video and the problem is low testosterone. thinking "i should be doing <anything>" is deeply feminine and submissive behavior. also doing things because you wanna be a good boy is sub behavior.>high t solution: do nothing unless you want to and do shit because it's cool and funny and not because you want validation.>also to me nothing's more fun than learning and improving. it's like i have my personal evolution by learning more techniques and skills. it's like being some sort of mutant and new arms and brains are growing out of my body. it's like i'm extending my bodily functions.>the problem is that modern men want to become homos instead of goblin-maxxing into a mutant super villain.
>>552958268>guy who has never sold a game talking about getting games done quick, sacrificing quality to get there,
>>552957895I think anon the other thread was right that you can't actually question him about anything because he isn't actually aware of most of what he does he just does it. It was put in much more vulgar terms but I totally understand now. Bokudev is a crackhead. It's funny.
>>552958594At least he's our little crackhead.
>>552957718>so it will show you each diamond you collected from each levelWhy.
Studying zork so I can understand how I should make entities. I kind of regret not doing this project in lisp (Chicken) since its well suited for this kind of thing, but I'm simply more proficient in C kek.https://medium.com/swlh/zork-the-great-inner-workings-b68012952bdcYou guys have any suggestions?
Everyone is shitting on Marnixhttps://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/s/eIb2JJao20
>>552957718>>552959168Please answer me bokube. I just want to know about your game. Why are you like this? Do I need to ask you on your twitter instead? You come here and act like such an aloof snob retard. Even Fygoon is better to communicate with than you just think about that.
>>552959409Eh they literally had that exact thread last year it's just a trend to state the obvious and complain about ecelebs for easy dopamine and upvotes. There is nothing said here that is novel or interesting.
>>552958594>>552959606>you can't actually question him about anything Told ya.
>>552959168Huh? Why would you dont want to know which diamonds you've collected?
>>552960459wtf is going on in that screenshot, it's so chaotic
I'm scrolling agdg slowing so I don't get a eyeful of you know what
>>552960459>answers question with questionI was wondering if they had a user or something. Why are you like this.
I keep waiting for bokudev to prove that he's a not a cunt (said lovingly with an australian accent). I don't think he's a terrible person but ffsJust stop being such a prick. It's not cool, it's not 4chan coded. Fuck your bunny box game. Have some humility. You're not famous because you posted this piece of shit game for 20 years on 4chan.
Procrastination has a lot to do with which cognitive function is your dominant.For example, "extraverted intuition" dominants get their energy from exploring new ideas, but quickly lose energy when they have to refine one idea, making them innately terrible for consistent work."extraverted thinking" dominants get their energy from organizing and implementing ideas in the real world, making them great for consistent work.If you suspect you are "extraverted intuition" ('Ne' for short), google how other Ne's manage their projects.
I'm a Netard
>>552960492lol we need someone to make an AI powered extension to scan the thread for us before it loads. Like the hot dog detecting algorithm in Silicon Valley that gets bought out to detect wangs so pervs can't upload it to facebook or whatever.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWwCK95X6go
>>552960796you don't deserve it
>>552960491I was physically shaking my head while playing the demo. It's kind of improved but it just looks so horrible. This guy is a nutjob narcissist to even offer this to people to download.
Cancel bokube.
>>552960459Achievements make it pretty clear that a measly 2% of players will actually get all the things. There is no consequence to removing the diamond indicator when the 98% won't notice,
>>552961557It's just another nothing feature to give him a reason to click around the project for 20 minutes then continue shitposting the game. The entire game is a troll, there is no intent to finish this game. He comes up with retarded things that require another 6 months of dev and then savors posting about it in agdg where everyone has been tortured to exhaustion already by seeing his bunny for years.Frederique is a sicko.
god damn just trying to make realtime csg work in the latest unity version and god damn what piece of shit code that is. absolute torture going through that piece of shit code. all the ui stuff is glitching out and the way he wrote that shit ui code is absolute fucking bs. holy shit man. i just want a csg editor to make a map, is that too much to ask for? holy shit man why does gamedev have to be such a pain in the ass? can't wait for an ai to write me a hammer editor plugin for unity so i don't have to use fucking broken outdated abandoned plugins that the devs don't give a shit about anymore. holy fuck i'm so mad. it's 2026 and i can't even get ancient tech like hammer editor in the fucking industry leading game engine holy fuck what the fuck is wrong with this fucking industry?
>>552883759Cow.That is all.
>>552960827>If you suspect you are "extraverted intuition" ('Ne' for short), google how other Ne's manage their projects.No just tell me right now.Chop chop.
i found a way to yesdev: only buying basic ingredients and 0 convenience food. been doing that for 3 days now and last night i've dev'ed all night long. you really are what you eat. even felt like taking a walk today and i haven't been doing that in months. god damn why do i always forget that diet is so important? even my mood is much better now.
>>552960827whats the type of procrastination where you spend hours watching stupid faggot ecelebs on youtube and then posting their videos here to waste other peoples time too
>>552962768My brain requires 12,000 calories a day.
>>552962936how is that 12000 cals? it looks like a pretty normal diet other than breakfast
>>552959245>You guys have any suggestions?be organized
Anons I did the math. In order for a mobile game to be profitable, you have to make people spend a lot of money. You need to spend $144.000 to get 5.000 people that will play with day30 retention. I'm probably not considering many things such as in some regions it's cheaper to acquire users. And a player doesn't have to play consistently 30 days after install etc. But still...I was trying to come up with a budget for my game so I'd know how much to ask for prom possible investors/publishers. Damn...The numbers I used for calculating (average calculated for both platforms and min max values):Average CPI: $3.125D30 Retention rate: %3.8Organic Installs Per Paid Installs: 1.85So 5.000 d30 users mean = 131.578 installs totalPaid install percentage = 1 / (1+1.85) = %35 will be paid installs131.578 * %35 = 46.052 paid installs will be needed46.052 * CPI ($3.125) = $143.912,5So regular of 5.000 users have to earn me 28 per person to make up for the money I paid to acquire themAre there anything I'm missing in this math? I think my assumption is a user has to be play 30days straight to earn me money, and I didn't consider the interstitial ads and rewarded ads. But still they have to watch ads worthAlso at the end the effective CPI is ($144.000/131.578users) = $1.09. (I previously calculated this as $1.125)This means I must sell disable ads item for more than $0.99 which is the normal price I assume.Long story short, how much of an advertisement budget do you think should I have? At least until I see if my game is profitable.
What would be the best way of plotting entities on a 3d map in C? I would like to click and drag a box and place the entities in an array. I have some ideas but they seem very expensive to me.
>>5529629910.5 Kg of pasta is over 1 lbs.He eats like 3 bags of dry pasta per day.
>>552963321an amateur developer should not expect to make money on a mobile game
i wonder why texture arrays exist, yet 3D modeling tools don't use 3D uv's so you can have different textures per face. let's say i model a house and have like 10 different textures i want to use, that i also want to repeat. i'll have to make 10 materials now. and the engine has to make 10 draw calls. with tex arrays it'd just be 1 draw call.
Where can I learn about how game engine rendering system work? I’m not interested in making vidya games, and I don’t code very much, but I'd like a deep understanding. In my normie headcanon, a 3D game engine rendering system just consists of a sun/moon (directional light), calculated soft shadows, realistic light bounces (GI), and materials reacting to light (PBR).
>>552964059>>>/g/
>>552963504Assuming your 3d world has some sort of spatial partitioning into boxes (basic grid or octtree, whatever) check if the selection box you make with the mouse is inside or intersecting the boxes in your spacial partition. So you'd likely run an OBB vs ABB intersectiopn test. Lets call the boxes that satisfy this condition "relevant boxes". Loop through each entity in each relevant box. Check if the entity intersects or is inside your selection box.>>552964059A good reference book is "Real-Time Rendering"Also refer to the resources here https://rentry.org/gedgMaybe I'll make a /gedg/ thread tonight.
>>552924393>>552924739>>552960796>>552961227>>552960459I watched Indie Game the movie and there's this scene where Phil Fish is mocking people for badgering him about the game>durhhh come on phil what's taking so long he's mocking everyone for pointing out that the game was taking 4 years or something. But Phil Fish did finish that game and it didn't take 10 years. It also didn't flop it was well reviewed and made lots of sales.But basically BOKUDEV saw this movie 12 years ago and thought "wow I want to be like that I want to make a game and work on it for so long that everyone is clamoring to play it and asking me what's taking so long! I want to be like Phil Fish! And I want to be famous like Phil Fish!"So now he has been working on bokube for 12 years and loves loves loves talking about how it's his forever game that is taking forever and "everyone is asking me what's taking so long". "The internet hates me for making this game so long haha"See>https://youtu.be/bAu3BYRJF2o&t=533He doesn't give a shit about releasing this game. He is a narcissist. It's all just a way for him to pretend he is Phil Fish. But Phil Fish FINISHED FEZ. And this is the part Bokube remains in denial about.Bokudev you are not Phil Fish. Your game has been in development for 12 years and it sucks. You are not famous. Wrap it up.
>>552930507Ey thank you so much again for these amazing fanarts>I wonder if most devs are even still aroundMe, GajiDev, the dev for Wagie Run is still here almost everyday m8, lurking. God bless
>>552964257i want to find a voice actor who sounds like mr eko from lost
everything i tried failed. the thing is though, if i'd start all over again, it'd just take me the same time again to get where i'm at. i didn't fail at improving, i actually learned a lot. but i failed at setting realistic goals and picking the right battles.all that learning through failure would be worth nothing if i'd give up.
Merry actual Christmas (January 7th) to actual Christian gamedevs.I'm working on my game today because I'm still alive. That is all.
>>552930507amazing
>>552964327>guys guys you know trump derangement syndrome haha people on the internet have bokube derangement syndrome! I'm like Donald Trump!Fygoon does this same routine.
>>552964473Thank you, but I implore you not to promote infighting when we have 1.8 billion pedo worshiping muslims and 1.2 hindu demon worshipers to worry about.
>>552964269I am unaware of those intersection tests, but I will look into them, i am just using ray-moller trumbore intersection but I figure it might be to expensive for the operation I want. Thank you
>>552964327He even says in that interview that he's making a documentary about himself.
>>552964327>be phill fish and get money from the government that funds literal indie devs so you dont need to fulltime wagecuck like bokudev must have been nice.
>>552964327Whats wrong with deving while being a full-time wageslave? Its just his hobby settle down you retard
>>552964859Anons think that they're special for some reason and that having a job is too good for them.
WHO CARES IF U HAVE A JOB OR DONT IT DONT MATTERJUST MAKE A GOOD GAME EITHER EMPLOYED OR NOT
>>552964947It's hard to work on something as massive and complicated as a game while being a full-time wagie. On paper you have enough time for 30 hours of gamedev a week if you optimize well, but in practice gamedev is hard enough even when you can do it full time. Still I'd rather be a wagie and have the game take 10 years than risking permanently dropping out of the workforce for a game that won't have me set for life.
i always notice the same pattern. i learn stuff and stay within my boundaries, i'm happy. i have ideas/inspiration i'm frustrated. effectuation is real. utilize what you know/can do and forget about what you wish you could do.
>>552963979Just texture the house using a trim sheet.
>>552964979I hate being unemployed.I wish I could get a job.
>>552965090From what I gather most neet devs here waste all their free time on vidya and anime and fighting depression. So the wagie dev ends up working on their game more than the neet does.For me the killer is the commute, I work from home, if I didn't I'd be crammed into a sweaty fart tube of a public transit system for hours every day because the entire western housing market is predicated on how far away can you live from the savages we imported while still being somewhere that has jobs.
>>552960796>>552961208>you don't deserve it>>552964327>Phil Fish, the creator of the indie game FEZ, stated in a 2014 tweet that gamers "don’t deserve" a sequel to FEZ, saying "seriously, shut the f*** up about FEZ 2. never going to happen. you don’t deserve it". This statement came after he had publicly canceled FEZ 2 in July 2014https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElHcYCcqlv8He literally thinks he's phil fish.
>>552965261i hate being poor.i wish i could get 10 million dollars.
>>552953494>>552955390I've been looking for this game! No wonder I couldn't find it then. Apparently everything has been purged of it.Goddamn it, he was one of the few other RPG devs around. I felt a certain kinship to him.
Dunno why I stop by but I'm making good progress with my VN. Thanks for reading my blog.
>>552965585>"gamers "don’t deserve" a sequel to FEZ" - Phil FishAbsolutely based
>>552965585They even have the same radio shock jock personality as evident in that bokudev interview. I would be fascinated to know what Freddys real personality is like at home. There's no way he talks like that normally he sounds like some kind of streetwise cartoon character.
>552964859>552964947Silence 'kube
>>552965585Phil was right. Gamers are subhuman retards. Game developers should bully them more often. Make sure to remind them its their fault games are full of microtransactions.
>>552964327He seems nice and humble. Why does he cause so many melties?
>>552964787>be frederick conception and scam thousands of dollars from people on kickstarter in 2016>never give them a game>keep telling them it's coming every year for 10 yearsMust be nice.
>>552965593That's just greed.You don't need 10 million dollars to not be poor.
>>552966061Sourcehttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139542651/bokube/comments
>>552965585Fish was based. Its like when George Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney just like RLM wanted then he retired to make movies just for his friends that no one else is allowed to watch.
>>552964257>it's upAYYYYYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whZtFh56vmk
>>552966308AYYYYYY
>>552966090i need 10 million dollars to be never poor again, including inflation.
>>552957895>I think it's funny that you let 2025 come and go and yet you act like that never happened.He's an expert at it. A professional even.See >>552966061
I would like to take a moment to shill Outpostia. It's not my game, I'm just a playtester, but I do think that it has the potential to rival Rimworld since it's open world (more chunks load as your colonists move) and has Z-levels. It should be coming to Steam soon, and the next short term plans include vehicles, actual terrain, and character customization.
>>552966061>copy pastes replies to everyone implying they're a retard for asking where the game they paid for is lol
>>552966061LOL cant sue him if he keeps updating us on the game everyday niggers.
shilling to game developerswe don't buy games here. you're wasting time
>'kube is a literal scammer'kube 'sters... our 'sponse?
>>552966871did he not release a demo very recently on steam? Im sure people are happy hes out in the open constantly working its better than a cancelled game lke cavern kings was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlK67jy2GV0>the comment section is all kickstarter backers smoking hopeium hes actually going to release when he never will fuck this video was YEARS ago. >>552966964its like boku is collecting a cult of people who paid for his work but are battered house wives with Stockholm syndrome because he keeps posting updates everyday but never releases... its depressing.
>all these damage control attempted samefaggingsFinish your game Freddy.
>Decide to try nano banana pro after all the shilling>Its like 30 cents a gen
the fucked up thing is that i have no idea if i'm paddling to the coast or away from the coast right into the empty ocean. or if the whole world has drowned and there's no coast anymore. when you lack knowledge, then everything is delusion.
>>552967120https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2139542651/bokubeBro $5000 in the united states of America, in CHICAGO is nothing I don't think hes a scam artist when hes survived on 9 years of wageslaving and a tiny small kickstarter budget that was probably used a long time ago. If he made $1,000,000 and ran away with the money never updating anybody i'd be concerned but it seems like the reality of gamedev with a full-time job to make anything decent is time consuming.
>>552966061>4 years agoSo 2021.They had already been waiting for the game for 4 years at that point. That's fucked up.
>>552966048Thats just a front most evil narcissists seem kind and charismatic on the surface.
180 backers pledged $5,465 to help bring this project to life.
Boku can at least pretend like he actually wants his game to come out
>>552967315>Bro $5,000 is practically $2 okay? Scamming $2 is like borrowing practically $1 okay? Finish your game Freddy.
>>552967557how does updating people on the game everyday and releasing demos all the time not give you the impression hes pretending he wants the game to come out?
Bokube's backers should be thankful he's still working on the game at all. Most kickstarter projects are scams. Bokube isn't a scam, obviously.
>>552967102It's sad and instead of admitting it's sad he laughs about it and pretends he's famous and everyone is just dying to suck his games dick. He is a narcissist.
>>552967235This is the first I've heard of it was scrolling this the other day.
>>552964327>>https://youtu.be/bAu3BYRJF2o&t=533>haha the internet is so mad at me for taking so long on this game hahaUmm maybe because they gave you $5,400 you fucking narc lmao
>>552967597He loves the process he loves the dopamine loop. Do something stupid and inconsequential to the game, take 3 months to do it but make sure to harvest those twitter views and post it on 4chan to look like Mr. Pro Game Dev. This is his second job everyone he has a full time job too he works so hard as a wageslave but also finds time to make games? What an amazing person. Anyway back to the grind, gotta add the save system to all 82 levels today so people can see the diamonds, this is what the people want, this is my life as a famous kickstarter gamedev!This is what he tells girls.
>>552967905agdg is mad the kickstarter backers seem fine and positive hes still updating them everyday. AGDG didn't give him any money I doubt anyone from agdg donated to his ks theres nothing but poorfag devs here who dont even buy games
i'm ngmi :(
>>552968041it doesn't help that hes like 30 dating and living with now a 20 year old blond zoomer too. I bet he groomed the FUCK out of her with delusions of his "gamedev" career. Age gap relationships should be banned in the US
>>552968183holy fuck ur seething zoomer or 40 yr old
>>552967597>how does updating people on the game everyday and releasing demos all the time not give you the impression hes pretending he wants the game to come out?
>>552968252t. pedo bokudev
>>552967656It's a scam lol. Just one of many that drove the kickstarter market into the ground. He is part of the problem. If he had any integrity he would have refunded it by now especially because "it's not even that much bro it's CHICAGA" >>552967315
>pocketwatching>eceleb discussions>no progress>no gameslosers
>>552968317zoomlet confirmed
>>552968435Post game
>>552968435Zukjeet lol
>>552968102>theres nothing but poorfag devs here who dont even buy gamesI'm poor and buy games. Priorities.
>>552968532zukjeet wouldn't call out eceleb discussions
>>552968183Well that's his personal life I'm not concerned with any of that. I'm sure any girlfriend would eventually start to see the facade like why is he working on this game forever and not finishing it but still needs to post about it everyday. That kind of observation stacks with many others and then they realize they're with a narcissist and lots of other things start to make sense and click.
>>552967235Lol it really is a quarter an image. Do cloudcucks really?
>>552967235>>552968780never ran into limits so far I'm using Gemini Pro trial sub they gave out
bro the most piece of shit advice i keep hearing is "stop caring about money". that shit is like saying "don't become an entertainer to entertain people" or "dont become a hunter in order to hunt animals".what even is the point of a videogame, if not to make it so people play it? i'm no redecorating my room, that could be considered a hobby, cause it's only for myself. but i don't make games just for myself, like wtf.
>>552968435>pocketwatchingTrue. Watching other peoples pockets while Freddy steals from them lol
anyone with a girlfriend lifemogs me to oblivionI could have a game with 20k reviews and I'd still be inferior to some dumb broke teenager with a chubby girlfriend
>>552968830>Have people play your game != make them pay for it
>>552968830I kneel.
>>552968928keep in mind women aren't just fucktoys, they'll challenge you, criticize you, demand stuff, become interested in other guys, get bored of you, get annoyed by you. they aren't just submissive breeding holes like in the porn clips. i only imagine a relationship to be fun if i'd be some millionaire and i can pay her to be my fulltime slut and focus on her existence as my sex servant.a fun relationship is expensive. i don't blame the women for it though, even i hate poverty and can't enjoy myself in poverty.
Do what the AAAs and pay people to playtest your game. Be AA.
>>552969045>keep in mind women aren't just fucktoys
>>552969128>1767385479585995.jpg
>>552969027Zukjeet lol
>>552969027Zukchad lol
>>552966308>552967789>>552968532>552968532>>552969240>>552969242
Plan is virtual memory dynamic arrays -> sparse sets -> ecsPost dev musichttps://youtu.be/dAAnOQxL5HI?si=GzjehcBwJlSXhEqVhttps://youtu.be/fPMoLEjM_K4?si=o3lAQX6zxxMCfI5Thttps://youtu.be/7RPjCUhHzsU?si=TrvcCsUUsF-IAgKFhttps://youtu.be/UxbyOQgTsVc?si=YooguuK_S3AGyx2P
>>552968928I was the dumb broke teenager with a chubby girlfriendShit was cashI've been single for 16 years
>>552969441You're missing the point of ECS. I implemented this years ago.
>>552969045is that why guys look back fondly on being young and broke and being with their high school girlfriend?there is no reason for a young woman to be with a young broke guy unless she's attracted to him. almost every teenage relationship you see is from genuine attraction at least on the part of the female. this coping about relationships taking work and not being ideal is like defending homelessness by complaining about property taxes and home maintenance.but maybe there could be a game in maintaining a relationship? like houseflipper but girlfriendflipper. I don't know how it could work mechanically or if there could even be a "correct" way to play because there are clearly correct ways to repair a house but dealing with people and their feelings is all over the place.
*takes 30% of the $20 that your 6 year passion project made*Damn this white boy icy
>>552969269>>552969027Samefag
>>552966964>its better than a cancelled gameI think at this point people would rather get their money back.
>>552968830I don't just want to make stuff for other people to enjoy. I made it so why shouldn't I put myself before anyone else?
>>552969584
>>552969723ai
>>552969646You can go further than that and take the bokube pill.Take their money and don't give them the game they paid for. Put yourself ultra first.
>>552969646*hits pipe*
>>552969816Kino
>>552962702As an 'Ne dom', novelty decay is your biggest enemy. It's very crippling for a video game developer.Getting something difficult done does not motivate you to work further.>Schedules = BurnoutSelf-explanatory, schedules make you too inflexible for you to utilize your Ne functions.Just tell yourself "I want this one feature implemented today" and trick yourself into believing you can take a break right after.Create a feedback loop, "Oh, since I have implemented X, I should probably implement Y, and oh, since I have Y now, it wouldn't hurt to do Z"When you feel like you're starting to feel exhausted with how much work you've worked, quit immediately. Your expectations for tomorrow are going to be "I am going to make the same or similar amount of progress", which is actually a bad thing. Your brain will think back to how exhausted it was and will try to distract you instead.>Tiny goals.When you set yourself a goal, make it as small as possible.Instead of thinking "I will implement my battle GUI.", you want to have "I am going to add a health bar." as your goal. >Brainstorming'Ne's love brainstorming. It's the function we use to breadth-search solutions.Brainstorming is like your annoying little brother who wants to add shit to your game that make no sense.You need to change your perception of brainstorming from "useless daydreaming" to "energy source".The only way to accomplish that is to decrease the scope of brainstorming so that you can actually use it for your game.Instead of thinking "What if I made another game with this and that idea", you have to think, "How can I scale this idea down to fit into my game without exhausting me?"So for example, if you can't decide if you want to switch your colony sim into a farming game, scale down your "farming game ideas" and fit them into your colony sim instead.Sometimes, your game is so radically different, that the idea is scaled down to an absurdly tiny feature, but that's a good thing.
>>552969623again agdg is not the kickstarter backer nobody is upset with boku except for retarded schizo's on 4chan who never paid or are going to pay for bokube ever.
>>552969843And then give them a documentary you made about yourself instead .
>>552969816nice! takes me back to living in the 'hood of Eastern Europe and watching Friday and movies like that
>>552969923Where is the bokube documentry? Where can I watch or buy it? Hes releasing it before he releases the game?
>>552969884Oh, additionally. Never commit to time constraints. It may work if you're a very disciplined Ne, but time constraints are the antithesis to how an Ne brain works.
>>552969884>>Tiny goals.>I am going to add a health bar.that's at least a day of work, nodev
>>552969495When I think of a sparse set ECS I think of two benefitsi. stitching multiple properties to a single entityii. performance when iterating through components and accessing componentsWhy is this a bad choice?
>>552970093What type of game are you making where you need a "day of work" for a health bar?
>>552969923
>>552970093>>I am going to add a health bar.>that's at least a day of work
>>552960827>For example, "extraverted intuition" dominants get their energy from exploring new ideas, but quickly lose energy when they have to refine one idea, making them innately terrible for consistent work.I love creating new things but refinement is not my strength. My motto is get it "good enough" and move on.>>552969884Shit this is literally me
>>552970010Anon I hate to break it to you but if he says he's making something, he's not. He's pretending to make it.
>>552970157>>552970318it needs to be animated (especially the juicy animation when you replenish health), it needs to change colors according to remaining health and attract attention when health is critical. it needs to fade depending on the ambient light. rounded or decorated corners are a must. yeah I'd say a day.
>>552970559kek if a health bar takes a day how long is it gonna take you to make an entire game?
>>552969916How do you pay for a game that is never released?
>>552970559most indie games have very simple health bars though
>>552970098I can't be bothered to go into detail and type it out here for you but those two things you listed start to fight each other and there's many different varations of "proper" ECS some have pure systems and some build archetypes but you're on the right track with benefits of peformance though.
>>552970318>>552970653If you want a really good looking UI you will spend more than a day on these things. You wouldn't understand for obvious reasons. You care not for beauty.
>>552970093>>I am going to add a health bar.>that's at least a day of work, nodevNow I'm starting to see why even /agdg/ anons take 10 years to release their games nowadays.
>>552970653a long time. that's why when you spend a day and a half on the customizable/flexible health bar and then reuse it for all other bars (and for future games) so every subsequent bar like mana or orgasm progress or whatever takes you 10 minutes.
>>552970098I don't know where you are with your project right now, but ECS can be a pain to debug if you're not using the right environment. During typical stack tracing in OOP, all properties are going to be where you expect them to be.Finding the properties of an ECS "object" is terribly slow, since they're all over the place.There are environments that accomodate for this, so I hope you use them instead of YOLO-implementing ECS from scratch.
>>552970912
My 4080 just generated this health bar locallyhttps://jsfiddle.net/1c2yb64v
>>552970559I am a Godot retard but what you described is just a progress bar, 2-3 textures and a tween animation.It could only take you a whole day if you have never made a game before.
Brotato has very simple UI and it's made more money than any /agdg/ game so maybe you guys are just slow and stupid
>i can make a health bar in 20 minutes Uhh yeah we call can. But should you?No. You should collectively spend hours on your UI doing multiple renditions. Have some pride in your work guys!
>>552971234Zukjeet lol
>>552971234>we call can
>>552971325>Zukchad I kneelThank you.
>>552971145>Richard Branson dropped out of high school and is a billionaire, so maybe you guys going to college are just slow and stupid
while blow spent 10 years making a game in his own programming language i spent 10 years abandoning games in unity unreal and godot.
>>552971145I am see >>552971392
>>552971234If you make a health bar in 20 minutes that's 24 health bars per work day.
>>552971145anons care too much is the problem. Gamedev is actually fun and easy if you stop giving a shit and just pump out trendchasing slop like Brotato.
>>552971480>>552971392Zukjeet lol
>>552971491Not even really the same thing. The Brotato dev struggled and flopped just as much as the average indie dev.
>>552971636
>Surface Breakeradded landmines
>>552971630>trendchasing
>>552971842I disagree with everything in this picture.
>>552970342Talking to other people about work motivation can be very confusing. Different people have different sources of energy.>Experiencing a routine structure (Stability) (Si users) >Seeing long-term progress (Te users)>Being able to interact with others or the world (Se users)>Social obligations or feeling like you are needed by other people (Fe users)Their sources of energy just drain me. Looking at a schedule exhausts me.Reflecting on my progress can feel euphoric, but ultimately exhausts me.Interacting with real-life objects or people exhausts me.Working for the sake of others exhausts me.I hate how long I took to realize this. None of their motivations ever clicked with me.Most jobs are totally incompatible, so all that I and the rest of society did was to tell me to get used to it.The jobs most suited for Ne doms are rare or unrealistic in the modern world, like "hunter" or "search and rescue".We have to half-ass our way into regular jobs by crippling ourselves.
>>552971754Hey bran many hours a day do you work on this lately?
https://x.com/DilumSanjaya/status/2008584593222652057Pack it up niggasNo more gamedev time to get a real job Hit your local walmart warehouse
>>552971096Back when I was doing freelance dev work I was at a meeting with a client and his software engineer guy was telling me how the timeline I proposed was too long. The guy took out a list of things that needed to be done and went point-by-point and how long each should take and asked me if I think each is unreasonably short and I kept saying no, because indeed on paper you can do a decent health bar (or in this case a decent notification bar) in 20 minutes. The total for everything in his tally was about 1/3 of the timeline I proposed.Nevertheless I refused to agree to any shorter deadline and the deal fell through.So the guy decided to make the thing they wanted in-house and they did it in just under twice the time I proposed and it was missing some features that were in my offer and had nothing that my offer didn't include.He learned that a complex programming project is more than the sum of its parts. Plan all you want, but unless your plan comes from extensive experience on completed projects, you will probably miss and by a lot.Thank you for listening to an uncdev's lesson in project management.
>>552972337>>552904883>>552947340
>>552970717>>552970947>I don't know where you are at with your projectSuper early stage. I'm brainstorming different EC frameworks but haven't programmed them yet. My main concern is composition>but you're on the right track with benefits of peformance thoughI feel like I understand from the context of the sparse set type but something like archetypes is unappealing to me.I have been thinking that an ECS is overkill. The last time I used it was on a 3d engine, and I was specifically trying to do fast iteration. In fact I even had the Vulkan storage buffers work together with the ecs system.What I like about ECS is how decoupled everything is. Lets say I am in a room, but I also want the room to be an NPC. If I want to leave the room I'll search the room component sparse set but if I want to talk to it or do some other strange interaction I'll check the other sparse set, And I use sparse sets over plain arrays because I don't want to overallocate.
>>552972337>DilumSanjayaYou're doing this on purpose.
>>552971754Sunk cost fallacy
>>552972337>>552972418>look I generated some 3D models and made them dance then I started attempting a mimicry of a character selection screen>it took 6 days and $700 in AI tokens to achieve thisNow they can start on the actual game! dev 'sters not like this ... our 'ponse?
>>552972612Hunyuan is free though and the other AI he used is probably <$30
>>552972723so why would anyone need him either? my mom could do what he'd done so it's over for him as much as it's over for us.
>>552972830exactlyread meditations on moloch
>>552972830>could doYes but she don't
>>552972723>it only cost $30/month with a $500 upfront payment and 6 days mid 'ponse 'ster but it'll have to do
>>552972340What's an unc? I keep seeing that word.Anyways, I think it depends on how advanced the rest of the project is.Because if you also have to set up the hp system and make it work with the hp bar which is a UI element, and it also has to interact with different damage sources and so I can see the entire process taking way more than a single day.However, the bar itself is not complicated in a vacuum. Ideally the entire project would be modular so you can just put it in there but not everyone does that, especially for outsourced production code.
>>552972426>What I like about ECS is how decoupled everything is. You can use composition in traditional OOP. An array or list that holds all the components as structs or objects is all you need.
>>552972891>read this psyopNo thanks.
>>552972208Yeah this makes a lot of senseI work with a guy who I suspect is an Si user, he is very caught on routine but is somewhat of a musical geniusBut he keeps trying to force his methods onto me, asking me to go back and refine my music which is NOT my thing, I kind of want it to be HIS thing to put the final touches onto the tracks and "engooden" them with his musical insights. I'm fine with composing new tracks but refinement is not my thing.Schedules are my bane, if I have even one thing scheduled in a day it can totally derail getting any work done, I enter some sort of purgatory-like wait mode until the scheduled time comes (that could also be some ADHD shit)Every job I've ever had has completely drained the soul and life from me, it's only now that I'm NEET that I can actually focus enough to work on a game. And yeah, they make it seem like it's your fault that you're miserable there lmao. I swear I've spent half my life trying to figure out what was "wrong" with me because I've never really fit in with the structures of modern education and work.
>>552973026>What's an unc?basketball American for uncle. Its a down low gay thing, like calling you daddy.
What's a typical RAM usage for a godot game? I have a very small 2D game with 32x32 sprites and it's hogging a 100-400MB of RAM, Is this normal? I have some Tilemaps and some controls, shouldn't take all that much RAM.
>>552973387Thanks unc.
>>552972286it was basically 10 hours a day during the holidays. But i'm back at work now so it's more like 3.
>>552973026>What's an unc? I keep seeing that wordit's how the youTHs of the internet call a boomer in the year of our lord 2026
>valve earns roughly $50 million dollars from tf2>a game they have not meaningfully worked on since 2017>most of the content and fixes for this game's updates now comes from the community>they take rougly 75% of the money they make off community content, the creators themselves get only 25%>the people fixing their bugs on github don't get even a single pennyAnd there are still devs thinking Valve isn't ripping them off. The numbers are confirmed here btw.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dcQ0jeD05r0
>>552973703>>valve earns roughly $50 million dollars from tf2>>a game they have not meaningfully worked on since 2017>>most of the content and fixes for this game's updates now comes from the community>>they take rougly 75% of the money they make off community content, the creators themselves get only 25%>>the people fixing their bugs on github don't get even a single penny>And there are still devs thinking Valve isn't ripping them off. The numbers are confirmed here btw.>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dcQ0jeD05r0
>>552886179Cute
>>552973639Thanks king.
>>552973703*inhales*POCKET
>>552973196>I enter some sort of purgatory-like wait mode until the scheduled time comes (that could also be some ADHD shit)I have the exact same thing. Schedules screw with my mental health because I either obsess over an appointment or deadline and I lose motivation for everything until I make it through, or I completely distract myself with electronic media.When I am entering a week with 4 different appointments, my brain enters "power-saving" mode until the week is over. I can't seriously do anything productive.
>>552974465Zukjeet lol
>>552973196> if I have even one thing scheduled in a day it can totally derail getting any work done, I enter some sort of purgatory-like wait mode until the scheduled time comes >>552974539>I either obsess over an appointment or deadline and I lose motivation for everything until I make it through, or I completely distract myself with electronic media.This is all good and superior though. This is the better way. That's why most people will admit they do this exact thing. Only a psycho would say "I have to go do work on this thing or go here at 4pm I better work on even more things for 5 hours until then". Successful psychos maybe though.
autism
>>552973639Do you think about/plan your game while working? I only have enough mental energy for a solid ~4 hours of active productivity per day, but spend the majority of my remaining time planning things or doing research. If the non-active productivity time is counted, then I'm technically productive for the majority of my waking hours. This could be something to consider.
>>552974539>When I am entering a week with 4 different appointments, my brain enters "power-saving" mode until the week is over. I can't seriously do anything productive.This was me for 10 years working 5 days a weekI legit couldn't do anything besides fuck around on the internet and consume media. That was probably my least creative decade, I just didn't have it in me because it was all drained out daily. I sure as fuck daydreamed about creative stuff though, but when I got home I only had energy to rot.
>>552975093I made progress last thread and got ignored :(Gotta make more progress before I can progress post again
>>552973049 >An array or list that holds all the components as structs or objects is all you need. See that was my first thought, using a struct of component arrays or simply having the component arrays as globals. But sparse sets can have less of a memory footprint.Lets say I am making a game with 500 entities. Then an entity index can be represented by a uint16_t.Lets say 300 entities are rooms and 200 are 3D transforms. Lets say a room holds 64 bytes and a 3D transform holds 28 bytes. These numbers are realistic (I typed out the data structures for this example). The latter struct isn't relevant to what I'm making but I needed to come up with an example that consumed less memory than a room. This means with component arrays you are using a total of 500 * 64 + 500 * 24 = 44.92 KiB. Now compare this to a dense set ecs. Each component will have a sparse array of 500 entity Ids, where an entity id would be 2 bytes. Then each component would also have a dense array. Each dense entry consists of a u16 to map back to the sparse array and component data. You only need as many dense entries as you have components in use. So in total the memory cost is 500 * 2 * 2 + 300 * (2 + 64) + 200 * (2 + 24) = 27.14 KiB.What I'm concerned about is how this can scale. I was being generous. Notice how the struct of arrays won't change memory use if I change proportions (keeping total number of entities 500), but if I make way more transforms than rooms (50 rooms and 450 transforms).500 * 2 * 2 + 50 * (2 + 64) + 450 * (2 + 24) = 18.35 KiB.But here is the problem. I may want to create a more components that are used sparingly. This is cheap with the sparse sets. In addition, some of my existing components will grow in size. My concern is that the memory cost will balloon with component arrays.What does make sense to me is to use a struct of arrays for a description or label component, since each entity will have one.>>552975093>he doesn't read my schizobabble
>>552975093we're scared of getting harassed
https://youtu.be/V0xv5yHniz0
Been designing a game for the last 3 days, lads. The last game I made was in more than 1 year ago.I'm fucking back and this time I'll hit it big.
>>552883310i cant believe what nortubel just did
Do you guys play video games anymore I've barely touched games since I started making oneSometimes I'll see someone post about how they're playing through Pokemon for the 100th time and I can't help but feel a sense of disgust
>>552976703i still play the same pvpslop for dopamine but i normally only play singleplayer games for research purposes
>>552976267>バイオハザードmuch better name than "resident evil" lol
>>552976810The resident was evil. Sounds like an apt name to me.
>>552976340>The last game I made was in more than 1 year ago.This game you made, did you release it in a form that could be played by the general public?
>>552977016My neighbor is a resident evil.But he's not a zombie, at least not in the literal sense.
>>552975093>pocketwatching progressGRIM
>>552977064Yes and no. I released on itchio but after some days I realized it wasnt a good game so I removed from the store. It was my highest quality game without a doubt and it brings me lots of pride but in the game aspect it was boring as fuck and I only realized after I got downloads but no comments about my game nor money tips.>almost 2 years agoGrim.
>>552977491damn bro you aborted your gameI'm pro choice, maybe it would have caught on eventually
>>552977491
And done
>>552977491Fuck, it's even worse than what I remembered.>>552977608Nah, it wasnt fun.
never blackpillhttps://x.com/Dispatch_Graph/status/2008639590295629841
>>552977684Well best of luck on your next game anonI hope you can use some lessons you've learned going forward
>>552977853Never crab.
>>552977853>graphics programmer | 19yo french guy, ex intern @ quantic & ubisoft>Can't make a gameThere's a joke to be made here.
>>552977853>19yoreally weird this guy was what 7yo when i got into aggy?he was like 9 when va1llaha releasedman what the hell
>>552978268I wonder what kind of games these people even played to get the idea that they wanted to make vidyaWhat is their base knowledge of video games?Are they classically trained or did they play nothing but mediocre modern AAA titles?
>>552978460>what kind of games these people even playedindie gamesthey grew up playing undertale and want to be the next toby fox>classically trainedthey cant even play 2d platformers
i need to stream like terry davis
>>552978460red dead redemption 2
>>552976703Every time I stopped making games I played a lot more games. Every time I was making games I pretty much ignored gaming entirely.I'd say this is pretty a common occurrence for devs.
>>552978598>they grew up playing undertale and want to be the next toby foxwell to be fair I played undertale in my 20's and I want to be the next tony fox as well
>>552974862>thinkyes>plannoI basically spend 2-3 hours a month planning out work tasks so I don't have to do any high level thinking. Solving new problems gets quite taxing but over time you solve enough problems that most things aren't new. I just start working on a task and within 1-2 minutes i'm in a flow state.
there must be a situation
every good game revolves around a situation
>>552979589*record scratch* Yeah, that's meYou may be wondering how I got myself into this situation....
Guys is it time to admit that /v/3 deserves a spot in future OPs?
>>552979047yeah but like, why?from what i gathered what really matters to them is to have a 'cult'they just want to be talked about on discordmaking a milli a releasing a good game like vagante won't cut it for themthey just want the discord clout and long video essays on ytatrocious, reallythere are thousands of ways to become famous and all of them are easier than gamedev
>>552977853I just saw this earlier today, what the fuck are we all in the same twitter algorithm?
>>552979813we probably have similar interestssome posts do go so viral that most twitter users see them, but this was not one of them
>>552979802I'm not sure if I want the cult part, but seeing people discuss my game would fill my heart upThe Undertale fanbase is notoriously obnoxious, but it beats having no fanbase at allAt the end of the day it's about getting those ideas knocking around in my skull out into the worldI've always loved vidya and I'm not cut out for the wagie life (been there, done that), so I'm tossing everything I got into game dev.Will I make it? Unlikely. But I'd forever regret it if I didn't at least try.
>>552965670looks niceai for the girl/bg?
Wireworks is really polished. I have no idea what I'm doing but it's fun messing with it. Seems a bit too chaotic for strategy imo and feels like people who use DAWs would be most familiar with this gimmick.
>>552979589the situation is there's platforms... FLOATING IN THE AIR! HOLY SHIT WHAT THE HELL?!, and you can JUMP TWICE YOUR OWN HEIGHT!!!
https://x.com/G_Godaka/status/2008659844299948517kino
>>552977673>>552971754>>552962639>>552956306Looking good
>>552980647I walk on the left, if someone isn't, they are in the wrong and must move to avoid me.
>>552979802Literally nothing wrong with wishing fame and money
>>552981341never said it didpursuing fame through gamedev specifically is absolutely retarded
Stop posting twitter screenshots. Stop. When you do that you're basically just a bot.
>>552979802Toby Fox released Deltarune on Steam with 0 effort and made 30 million in 30 minutes.You'd be stupid not to want this kind of success.You can always just distance yourself from your cringe fanbase anyway.
>>552982340what game is he dissing from 95?
>>552983437TekWar
>>552930507The little details like the void crawler ship pulling the banner and having the correct point values for the scrabble tiles really make this. Thanks for the great art.
>>552930507Oh fuck I just saw thisThis is awesome!
>>552983979in the cuck chair taking the picture
>>552983523this would sell millions to zoomers today. its so retro!
How many copies would your game need to sell to pay you a minimum wage?
>>552984675$420k
>>552984675300 a month at $2 * 12 = 3_600 copies
>>5529846752000 or so.t. thirdie
>>552984675It's a hobby for me, it's enough that it doesn't lose me money
>>552984675I think I'm at 5000 hours now. at $10, 5,179 copies. (taking steam cut into account) most of my sales will be merch I'm sure though.
>>552983437Front Mission: Gun Hazard
>>552985301I loved that game. I don't remember anything wrong with the jump
>>552984876I missed you, bokusis
How do I get energy without caffeine or sugar?
>>552984675Around 12K
The best games have good stories.
>>552985948Jerk off less often
>>5529846759,000. I can do that.
>>552986220could you even get 900 people to play it for free?
>>552986520We will see.
>Looking at when I first started creating filesWell, it's the 1 year anniversary of starting my current game's development.
>>552987438you're in beta about to release, right?
>>552987497I'll probably release in 2027.
>>5529874381 year huh, just enough time to make the MC walk around and jump. this year you'll add enemies?
>>552986079Impossible
I just found out new users with a code get 50% off on Claude wtf
Got my cup of peppermint tea and my vegan oatmeal.Working on my Vulkan Abstraction which will then be used to build my Vulkan Renderer.
>>552988212>>Got my cup of peppermint tea and my vegan oatmeal.>the last days of Caligula
>>552987709Read the Easy Peazy method.
>>552893065>yandere simulator clonecursed genre
>>552988612Sounds like something for Muslims
>>552990969No, mudslimes jerk off more than anyone, they just pretend not to.
too real
>>552991643>you learned game design>now it's time to learn how to edit youtube videos and shortskill me
/v/3 is now confirmed to be run by a MAGA sycophant. I will no longer support them or any dev associated with them.
>>552991643good games market themselvesby which I mean top 2% of games will be able to escape complete obscurity even if they're not marketed, the rest need marketing
>>552992250The elections aren't real. What does his opinion on a children's puppet show have to do with gamedev?
>>552992261good games, or games that make good youtube thumbnails.
I’m going to be taking an extended break from game dev to focus on career related stuff.The comfort of stable employment has caused my mentality to spiral down a dark hole of nihilism and apathy for the last few years. I truly despise my job, but through telling myself “oh well, at least I’m employed” I’ve numbed the misery and the desire to explore options elsewhere. At the moment I’m just spinning my wheels with no real future.I realize I’ve also been using game dev as a coping mechanism to escape from that misery. Embarrassingly, at some points the idea of “making it” from my game and being able to quit this soulless job was the only thing keeping my going. Thankfully I now realize this is an immature and extremely unrealistic goal and not something I should be prioritizing right now. I’d rather have a fulfilling job and work on my game as a fun side hobby than a miserable job and treating game dev like a second job. Now is the time to find that fulfilling job and then I can focus on game dev.Thanks for reading my blog. When I finally come back I hope to see lots of a new games.
>>552992506bundev?
>>552992506godspeed anonit's a bitch of a world and we're all trying our best
>>552930507bit late and I didn't have a demo this time around, but awesome work anon, love to see stuff like this
>>552992506Good luck, anon. I'm going to have to halt progress to deal with my real life as well. This year shall be the one, I hope.
Good, less competition.
progress
>>552984675>269W-what?
>>552993272What's that thing under the glass?
>>552992652No, I just like this image. Not bundev, sorry.>>552992689>>552992915Thanks brosNot to get too sappy philosophical, but I feel like a positive mentality is a fire. You need to keep feeding the fire fuel or else it’s going to go out. Try to make little steps every day towards your ultimate goal and use them as kindling to keep the fire going. Not everything needs to be another log of firewood.
She's using them tiddies to sell albums now that her 15 minutes is up.
>>552993657You need to be granted first class access to Agartha
>>552993671That's a good mindset to haveMay we all keep our flames burning strong
me before I even tried to make games:>the coolest game would be like a WW2 MMO where you'd be randomly assigned a role in any of the historical battlefields, like the 6th paratrooper in the 2nd glider over Eben Emael and it would be realistic like Ghost Recon and then when you die you'd be placed into a new role maybe halfway across the world.me now:>new sword? yeah, I'll use this existing model but I'll make it 10% brighter and it'll do double criticals. what, I don't have an icon for a critical buff? fuck it then, 15% extra damage.
>>552980082Yup! AI and if there's anything wrong with it I manually draw/fix it.
>>552992652theres a bunny game?
>>552991643marketing is just brainlet woman shit compared to learning shit like art or coding.Most of the time you simply need to learn keyword research and SEO on google, instagram and youtube and tiktok.
i'm doing dev later since the drill noise is very loud
ok which one of you is this?
>>552994165looks great, any tips/recommendations on what you used for generating it?
>>552994180There's like three
>>552994259Do you have a book to learn this?
>>552994305i didnt write it but its like it came out of my head
>>552994305>he isn't living the dream of his inner child by making a gameSadOn that note anons... how is your inner child doing? Is he proud of you?
>>552994386>marketing>make effective ads>pay to have people see ads
>>552994461the trick is for your inner child to be even more miserable than the adult
>>552994574Thank you. Couldn't remember why I have my inner child blocked out for a moment there.
>>552994305Hmm I don't remember making that postIt is true though
I think this is starting to come together into a playable game.
>>552994386there's a bunch of books on SEO, but I remember reading the SEO bible.If you want to actually learn marketing, also read the following."contagious why things catch on""made to stick, why some ideas survive on""the tipping point""Predictable irrational""The purple cow""The blue ocean strategy"SEO will land you a chance to be seen by whoever search stuff.The other books will explain why people share stuff like cat memes and trump emperor memes for free, and the other two are about bussiness stuff.Marketing is not the most hardcore shit if you're willing to learn it like another skill.
>>552994735very niceI love playing from a gunshipbut what's the point of being able to walk around instead of just seeing the screen all the time? is there more to the game than looking at the screen?
>>552994043with AI, you could make the WW2 game in a week.
>>552994574Nah fuck thatWhen I was a kid I was always expressing myself creativelyThen when I became an adult and suffered through soul-numbing shit like work, bills, unloyal women, drugs, etc, etc, all of that creativity was gone, just a faint glimmer of what it used to beI've spent the past few years rekindling that old spark of mine, and my inner child has come back out to play. Not to sound too gay, but I think my child self would think what I'm doing now is the coolest shit ever, and that makes me feel great.
>>552994735Are they on horseback? As a military enthusiast I have so many questions about the scenario this gunship crew has found themselves.
>>552994461Definitely. Making the game I would have been a fan of as a kid, based on all the things I loved growing up, plus I'm still skateboarding and getting competent at it, that'd make my younger self proud.
>>552994960>with AI, you could make the WW2 game in a week.too long, lmk when I can do it in a day
>>552994461>On that note anons... how is your inner child doing? Is he proud of you?he never really went inner
>>552994305That could have been me back in 2022.Now I'm unemployed again but I have hope that the future can be better.
>>552994735>>552995026Okay, they're defending a position on a hill. I didn't watch the whole thing. It's like the Mongol Horde overtaking a fighting position in Afghanistan with air support.
>>552995087just wait 2 more weeks. AI improves exponentially.
>>552994895I've always been convinced that SEO is bullshit, you've got a bunch of soulless lanyard wearing corpo marketing golems getting paid to sit around trying out voodoo rituals to try to game the ever-changing internals of a black box system that they have no insight into whatsoever. Old voodoo SEO rituals that used to work probably no longer work, but they still do them just so that they don't anger the search engine gods.Those books I guarantee have like 1 or two salient points and could just be boiled down to the length of a 4chan post. The books aimed at middle managers are always 99% filler.Here's the trick: Make a game that people want to play.
>looking at old progress videos>game looked janky and terrible but had infinitely more soulwhat a strange feeling.consequences of deving in a vacuum like an autist I guess
>>552995258What about when it hits the limit that is it's computing power?
>>552995350To me the entire point of SEO is making the algo understands your post or video.Sort of like properly tagging it.I remember I made a new youtube channel and properly did the whole tag SEO BS and my channel was properly ranked and could be found on the search like in 30 minutes.
>>552995026>>552995246https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtR2qiy01QIt's meant to be this but they have air support.The exact scenario is just there for testing, in future there'll be a reason for there to be dudes on the ground on a bug-infested planet... however contrived.>>552994948>but what's the point of being able to walk around instead of just seeing the screen all the time?It opens up gameplay opportunities like having to go to another station to perform some other function, like clearing a malfunction on a gun, shooting a bug in the face with your sidearm after it has flown up and is trying to claw its way through the door to eat you. etc.
>>552995526heard of dyson spheres? AI will figure it out, don't worry.
>>552994339I use local AI (stable diffusion illustrious) outright to generate sprites, and a combination of local AI, controlnet with real life locations, and Gemini/Chatgpt for the backgrounds. More often than not Chatgpt does a really good background without any flaws and I just upscale on my end to a HD resolution.
>>552995350>Make a game that people want to play.Equally useless advice because different people want different games. And it's very easy to piss off an audience by doing one small thing they don't like but never talk about that you can't ever hope to reasonably know beforehand.
I can't wait for when Claude Opus level is local and cheap because I'm hitting limits so often aaaagh
>>552995762You should read the book. The mech suits in it are what inspired every single giant robot anime. The descriptions of how they fight in combat are awesome, I've never seen it portrayed accurately besides the "elemental" suits in the Mechwarrior universe.
>>552883759>ladders now automatically generated>chooses from multiple tiles>fixed all rotation/scale weirdness, clean pipeline from Blender>fluid entry/exit animation regardless of position (thank you gpt-sama)
>>552995350>>552996103the real trick: make a game you want to playif the game is unsuccessful you just have shit taste so you dont deserve to be successful anyway, go work at mcdonalds
>>552996454In order to make a game you want to play good, first you must play 1000 games
>>552996103>Equally useless advice because different people want different gamesI didn't say 'make a game that everyone wants to play' you spastic>And it's very easy to piss off an audience by doing one small thing they don't like but never talk about that you can't ever hope to reasonably know beforehand.Just don't be a poser. I assume you'd make a game for an audience that you at least are a part of. Why would you make a game for some random group of people that you have no connection to or shared interests with unless you're cynically trying to exploit them? Are you one of those retards who try to make cozy farming games despite never having touched the genre yourself?
>>552996454>if the game is unsuccessful you just have shit taste so you dont deserve to be successful anywayIs that what you would've said to Fear and Hunger devs in 2019?
>>552996454Even McDonald's don't hire me. I always fail their health screening test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2c-6PHrmyAtruly its over, the amount of games released will triple
I'm making what I make, I have no choice in the matter.
>>552996264>You should read the book. The mech suits in it are what inspired every single giant robot anime.True I know the real Mobile Infantry are more like space marines and not cannon fodder.I am currently aiming to make the dudes on the ground capable of holding their own, however they're still limited by ammo, which is essentially a ticking clock, and you have to take the pressure off them for long enough for them to extract.
>>552996859Ah... these ol' bones are achingMust be a video game crash coming up soon...
>>552996859Obvious grifter scam
>>552996454>if the game is unsuccessful you just have shit taste so you dont deserve to be successful anywayyes that is agdg's main problem. They'll make a perfectly fine game and then slap an anime girl in the capsule art, and the retards here will clap and encourage that. Meanwhile the steam normies don't want to see anime girls in their capsule unless its a coom game, and the game flops. This is a big blindspot with agdg in particular
>>552996874In the book, they were the gunships though. They would drop into a position on the high ground. Then some would engage their jump jets and go to another position. They didn't have fine control in flight though, so straight long arching jumps. During those bounds they would let the cannons rip on the cities and towns beneath them. In the books, the bugs had a civilization with cities.
>>552996874Any military game that doesn't show soldiers conducting total warfare against military and civilian targets just doesn't get the reality right for me.
Going to dev in 30 mins (after playing ck3)
>>552996454the game i want to play is nearly impossible for a solo dev desuthe hardest part is making the game you want while also choosing the correct corners to cut. It is a very difficult problem.
>>552996859this is just an asset flip with more steps. 99% of what is shown is this template/pack https://www.fab.com/listings/90ba076a-dc9a-4782-9ac8-dc2ed4f06405
>>552997765>tfw only a fan of AAA MMORPGs with extremely complex mechanics
brb just stealing this player model from the picture
I like how third worlders thinking they can steal things faster will make any difference in us purchasing their games.
Fuck TwitterFuck TiktokFuck social mediaFuck marketingI hate this humiliation ritual
If third worlders could build computers and games, they would have stole Pac-Man, but they couldn't reverse engineer and manufacture 8-bit computers.
>>552998203who are you fighting with you retard?
>>552995462I don't think a dev should be the one to determine if what they're making has "sovl"...that's for everyone else who sees your creation. And don't try to fake it. We can see through that.
>>552998038I use AI all the time. But it's obvious from the limited and recycled footage the "game" is hardly playable and not even close to as complete as he tries to make it seem.
>>552998038
>>552998137Yeah I'm still caught up on this shit myselfI'm not a social media guy, I don't even use twitter or anything like that
>>552998137just tank it nundev
>>552997765>Not working your way towards your dream game>Not getting any kind of enjoyment from smaller games with good core gameplay>Not believing in yourself to make something difficultNgmi
>>552930507Unbelievably based, thank you.t. Dungeon Trail dev
>>552997963NOOOOOO YOU STUPID FUCKING AI WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHAT THERE ARE HOLES WHERE FACE SHOULD BE FUUUCK
>he thinks words on the screen are fighting
>>552997963why did his face turn into a tomato?
>>552998302I feel like a schizo talking to myself for a measly 3 likes on a tweet>Heehee look at me, play my game, it's so fun!I want to die
fuck (You)
>>552998038buy his plugin. do it faggot.
>>552997564Based. I'll read it. However the goal isn't to make a Starship Troopers (the book) game specifically, mostly inspired by the Modern Warfare AC130 missions but in the context of the guys on the ground playing a hoard shooter>>552997709I don't know if the bugs count as civilians or not but you can destroy their homes
>>552998673Yeah... it all feels so performativeand more often than not you're performing to almost nobody lmao
>>552998673As opposed to posting your progress here for a measly 0 (You)s
>>552998853>>552998673I treat it as a log of the work I've done.
>>552998554meshy actually works
>>552999283why'd he turn chinese?
>>552999040Speak for yourself, I at least get told to kill myself when I post progress
>>552999390kek cuz of comrades
>>552998853I can always count on 2-3 aggydevs to retweet all my tweets but that's about all the action I get
>>552998673This is all Gabencunt's fault btw.
shit doesnt let me download models fuck that I can't make games still if 3d art is gatekeeped
>>552999727>Make a trailer>Send to ign, Gamespot, game trailers, etcDone
>>552999916Blender is free.
>>553000095I don't want to manually push pixels
>>552999916>Can't download models that are already made>Can't model on my own because talentless hack>GatekeptSounds like you might just be retarded
>>553000151They're called vectors when you're doing 3D.
>>5529999163d art might be the least gatekept digital artform in existence
just let me generate 3D model and let me use it in my game.fuck.
Can you work (or even just learn) in Godot on a device with shitty integrated graphics? I'm shopping for old laptops cuz they're cheap and I don't want to give any of these motherfuckers my money and I'm gravitating towards a thinkpad; the models I'm looking at come with i5's and i7's, but obviously no real graphics hardware. Obviously I don't expect to do a lot of heavy work in 3d, but can godot do most of the heavy lifting on the cpu or am I hobbling myself by doing this
>>552999916bruh lol fuck you mean
>>553000151Nta but I did both pixel art and 3D and I honestly still find pixels more fun and engaging funny enough
>>552999283@grok give him a bikini and cover him with baby oil
>>553000321Pay your tribute to the United States AI overlords, and you can make all the 3D models you want.
>>553000321use meshy retard>>553000348yes idiot i game and dev all on integrated, if i can run it at 60 without a real GPU then i don't want to hear any complaints at all about performance.
>>553000348I dev on a fucking macbook bro anything is possible
>>553000538meshy is fucking paid
>>552999916https://www.cgtrader.com/https://sketchfab.com/https://www.turbosquid.com/https://free3d.comhttps://assetstore.unity.com/https://www.fab.com/retard
AI will devalue all human intellectual labor.those in protected/gatekept professions will escape for a while but ultimately the unemployed masses will swarm every industry even those that don't use AI.but enjoy your vibe coding and image generation for the time being.
>>553000676there's a free trial, get a free vpn and use a throwaway email retard
>>552999916I stole your man.
>>553000689there is no exact shit I want on there + if there is it's usually paid>>553000765I ain't jumpin over these hoops to get a fucking 3d model
>>553000636since 2020 macbooks wipe the floor with intel laptops watt-for-watt and in some cases dollar for dollar
>>553000717didn't read the middle sentance, yawned audibly and then took pity on you and gave you this (You)
>>553000790not cool man, can't steal what's already stolen
>>553000717retard
>>553001014I'm unstoppable.
>>552994305>poison that kills you peacefullywhere can i get this
so what do you do..... you can't do 3d models, you can't do shit
>>553001509ask your mom I told her where to get some last night when we were having sex and discussing plans to kick you out of the basement and turn it into a room that doesn't have you in it
>>552994370what are they?
>>553000897>there is no exact shit I want on thereyou want a generic army/swat man, your vision isn't that unique, you can download the mixamo one and change the texture to green if you had a single useful bone in your body.
>>553001981but I wanted low poly looking one, not that high poly piece of shit, it doesn't fit my vision if you know what I mean
>>553001853they're called "your mom gave me a blowjob last night", "you're a loser" and "she said she needed to get her mind off her son being a fag"
>>553001981Subhumanite low IQ tard.
>Have a great game idea>Current project is 90% finished, headed for NextFestSTOPSTOPSTOP IT
>>553002121https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/characters/low-poly-soldiers-demo-73611FREE
>>553002340Maybe you should go away forever and watch a Japanese cartoon to get it out of your head
>>553002370It won't work anon, I know you can download free models that 99% of the dev population downloads, the point of AI is to generate me free cool shit I actually want, but it's not there yet
>>553000897ngmi
new thread...?
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