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>What... is this?
Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

>Where can I watch the cup?
https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

>Upcoming Cup
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4chan_Winter_Cup


>Upcoming Invitationals
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/LAN_Party_the_3rd:_Admins_of_the_Frozen_Throne
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4CC_Champions_League

>Wiki:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Sekkrit Code
37pebis

>DLC Password
divegrass

>Booru
https://isthisliv.com/booru/

>Other videos
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>PES Info
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017

>Previously
PES19 vs PES21
Lolcow hunting
Rigged votes
KWABOTY
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Year of the horse
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Sangen love
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What a shit thread already.
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>>552893556
>bad vgl raped /akg/
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avatar 'ss
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>>552894050
I didn't know that James Cameron was an /uma/bro.
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>>552894050
That horse...it seems a bit...suspicious...
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>>552893385
>tranny love
no
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>>552893556
>post Ezio
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>>552893556
>second /zzz/bro clearly favorite
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>>552893013
https://tiermaker.com/create/vgl-family-guy-tier-list-16528589
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>>552894762
raped
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Yo onions un hombre gay
me gusta chupar la pijas
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>>552895296
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>>552895864
>chink/gook gacha
>traces of sovl
Try again
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>>552895864
shitty outdated aesthetics don't equal sovl, unc
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>>552896043
this is about the teams
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>>552895864
>/tf2g/ with a /bag/ player
>overflowing sovl
>resurrected team with no fans
>sovl
and what >>552896043 said too
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>>552895296
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all tierlists have been incorrect in one way or another, what the fuck
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>>552896257
It doesn't matter how good the salesman is if their product is shit
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>>552896416
>0 BMBF teams
>0 AM teams
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>>552896698
This is correct.
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>>552896627
That's a terrible analogy, the teams aren't trying to sell their games.
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>>552896856
Is that really what you think?
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>>552896416
>/bag/
>WMAF
Nice try, baggot
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>>552896416
what do any of these terms mean
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>>552896416
I wish Kemono Friends had true Black Females and not just the occasional Kang or Pajeet.
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fuck you for posting the tiermaker bob you've killed the general for at least three more threads now
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>>552897668
various forms of interracial porn
WMAF = White Male Asian Female.
you can probably figure out the rest
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>>552897752
you sound raped
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>>552897752
/zzz/bro btw
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>>552897901
Now I wished I hadn't asked this.
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>>552897913
Raped like /akg/ in that semi final
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>>552898125
kwabbypow!
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>>552897463
Definitely.
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>>552899750
i look like this
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>>552900024
Lose weight fatty.
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This is the correct, fact checked, 'ccg approved tierlist.
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>>552893556
>upcoming /zzz/bro community
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>>552900332
>some lowcards being either heel or face are exclusively due to management
bummer
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>>552900332
>/pg/ in the same tier as /hdg/
you wish KWABa
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>>552900332
swap /hanny/ and /alg/ and it's correct, no other notes
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>>552901336
>Gimmicks are what made a wrestler heel or face
You don't say.
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>>552901615
I agree with this
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>>552901697
Yes local retard I understand why it's the case, it's just sad that some good teams are negatively impacted by their manager's lolcow status
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>>552900024
wanna be my co manager haha
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Umineko: Golden Fantasia is a good game
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>>552900024
Put down the fucking cake.
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>>552893556
>/4ccg/ sangen lolcows
we know, they've been shitting up the thread for a while now
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>>552893353
ToT
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>>552895864
>/pg/
>traces of sovl
where
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>>552902790
Why are you talking about yourself in third person?
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>>552896558
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>>552901961
such as? closest I can think of is /nikg/ but with their horrendous chibis I doubt another manager would make them well liked
Meanwhile people still love /hdg/ despite having the copper thief as a manager
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'ff-'pic 'n 'ord
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>>552908927
/gbfg/ would be face if they didn't have a guy intentionally trying to lose the last 3 leagues
/ksg/ could probably be face despite the autism if they didn't have a premier lolcow manager
/pg/ would drop to heel if it was still just the one manager
/egg/ could easily be heel if they had an obnoxious manager because nobody cares about the team
/smtg/ would be face if the manager wasn't intent on sending tactics like that (not lolcow status but still a result of management)
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>/gbfg/
>anything but a hell
Don't make me tap the sign
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minor spelling mistake
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>>552910357
*heel
It might be time for this keyboard to go
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>>552910531
nyo...
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>>552908714
Your grace...
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>>552910015
>/egg/ could easily be heel if they had an obnoxious manager because nobody cares about the team
This is true but aside from that I think it's strange trying to make teams nobody cares about into a heel or face to begin with
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>>552910421
rape
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>>552916196
many are saying this
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>>552916196
>>552916406
/alg/ rape victims
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>>552916196
I'm saying this
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>/alg/ fan who didn't choose /alg/ to go through
>"haha, you're so raped"
unironically trapped and betrayed
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pes version doko
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>>552920893
15
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>>552895296
For me it's the VGL manager lolcow tierlist
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>>552922287
>/bag/ and /pmmm/ lolcow
>/kfg/ and /@/ minor lolcow
>/mggg/ and /ksg/ non-lolcow
what an awful list
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>>552922287
>/psg/ lolcow
>/ksg/ non-lolcow
???
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>>552922287
So this is who voted for Kara that many times?
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>>552922287
Explain the lolcows
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I will not elaborate.
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>>552925193
/hdg/ cheats by not having a single song from their game.
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>>552925193
explain your reasons for each, im interested
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>>552925193
I don't even remember a single xivg one, nice try mercbitch
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>>552925193
>He doesn't enjoy gusic
Die.
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>>552925524
That's how they win.
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>>552925524
The anthem and victory anthem are from the game
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>>552925705
Should be in /mu/ tier then, desu.
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>>552922287
>in two tiers at the same time
Based retard.
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>>552925193
>/fg/ god tier
Based, I'm sad that Rean's goalhorn didn't play at all, it's my favorite.
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>>552925524
as >>552925821 said
plus if you listen to their OST you can see there's not much you can use besides those two songs that are already in use
and if you go back to the first game, it's not that better
like this for example reminds me of /hanny/'s music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F39Nwj6oyJ4
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>>552926853
Wanting Rean to score is asking too much
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>>552926192
Anon...
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>>552927592
haha...
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>>552925193
>/mu/ tier
so... good?
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>>552928790
If you like
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>>552928546
That's our Rean!
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Under 14 the person is legally a child, therefore can't consent, no matter the partner's age.
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VGL26 PES DOKO
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>>552932937
Hmmm wonder which PES /akg/ will pick.
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>>552932937
its already obvious they're going with 19
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>>552932937
15
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female:
coprophagia
piss drinking
scat
urination
vtuber
yuri
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>>552933202
Townhall wanted 19 so it will be something else.
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>>552932937
It's 19 unless Reso's raped gaping anus is taken into consideration over the majority of opinions.
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It's going to be 21 for a year then 19 for 3 years

t.knower
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Melty on /jp/ 'oard
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i asked
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>>552934669
It's apparently some really upset schizo having a melty who keeps necrobumping and make /vt/ threads.
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HOT /ADMIN/ LEAKS: After winter the cup will be moving off of 15 and onto pick related
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>>552935879
how come footy players don't have heads like those anymore
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Me and my co
https://exhentai.org/g/3721849/7cd281f9dd/
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Halu Ulala and mambo tiktok goal compilation on the cord.
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>>552898563
Go back and look at /trg/ when they had matches and you'll find they definitely did not like what they watched.
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I'M SAILING AWAAAAAAAAAAY
SET AN OPEN COURSE, FOR THE VIRGIN SEA
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>>552934669
/jp/bro btw
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>>552935138
for a while /jp/ has had someone who makes blank posts to bump slower threads in order to bump the hololive thread into the archive so he can make another a new one. /jp/ jannies had the brilliant idea to tackle that issue with autosaging every thread that goes on for more than 14 days which makes necrobumping inefficient now. In response, the necrobumper now makes filler threads in order to force the autosaging hololive thread into the archive which creates a worse issue. /jp/anons that have noticed and realized this is another problem caused by vtumors are getting their posts deleted and some banned because /jp/ moderation is full of vtumor fags. Situation is dire and I hate vtumors so goddamn much its unreal
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don't fucking care, more if it's coming from the mouth of a tranny lolcow
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>>552942621
thank you for your information
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>>552895296
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>>552943964
Finally a tier list I can agree with
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I present to you the winners of VGL26:

>>552414236
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>>552946501
Tactics better be auto pilot and generated by grok
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>>552946501
Finally, a board to manage.
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>>552946501
video games?
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Umazing tiktoker on 'cord
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>>552947960
the hall monitor is on it
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>>552947960
PATROLbellum the VIGILANT is on the case.
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>>552947960
He's a pest, but you're not funny either, future lolcow
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You are also a dirty secondary aKWABtis we don't claim you.
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>>552951930
Can someone bring her a napkin?
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>9
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babycakes you just don't know know
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>9
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come on this decision cant be that hard
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>>552963034
Pretending no one wants 19 takes time.
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>>552963138
true, everybody prefers to stay on 17.
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>>552963340
I said this.
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>>552963340
I say this all the time
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>>552963034
Constantly swapping between 17 and 19 is not a healthy game state
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>>552964987
True, let's go to 16 then since people like it too.
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21 is fine, give it 1 cup to prove it
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>>552967085
Removing the mask to find /akg/!
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>>552964987
no one is saying this cause it would be symmetrical like
21>19>17>19>21
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But wvat about 18 though
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>>552967085
I am saying this
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Hoochie Koochie. Rah rah rahhh
Funkasticoonamada Whaackathung In a srahboorah. Get cold in a jet, touch a frog.
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>>552969576
shut up retard
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>>552970412
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>9
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VgL has won bigly over 4cc
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Hello funny tournament people. Please keep putting girls showing their panties in the thread OP
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>>552978176
>put girl without panties
>gets deleted
i see
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>>552978510
Janny confirmed.
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>>552977327
/4ccg/ would destroy any vglbab team
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>>552979673
They fear our power
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>>552981291
>they
This thread is 80% vgl managers
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Mr. Trump please kidnap Alex next and my oil is yours.
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Mr. Trump tear down these walls
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/uma/ is the new /lcg/
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>>552995006
/uma/ is worse
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>>552970412
many are correct, also


who else thinks this captcha shit is annoying. as annoying as it was bring back mah nigga the boxes of text you gotta scroll on
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>>552997458
Genuinely the worst captcha I have ever seen across any website.
I am convinced whoever keeps making these captcha changes is just attempting to kill the website as fast as possible.
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>>552997458
>>552997716
buy passu
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>>552997458
>>552997716
>filtered by IQ test
god bless this captcha, it takes me 2 seconds to solve it
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Sex with mori calliope
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>>552998089
shes not bad
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>>552998089
so true
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>>552997716
>>552997458
They're easy as fuck, anyone getting filtered is retarded and if its presence is enough to keep you from making a post, then said post was likely not worth anything to begin with
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https://exhentai.org/g/3389330/a216660d9c/
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>>552998089
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Older captcha was better because solver was a thing. Now I have to do this shit manually.
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I only fuck slampigs
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>>552998739
I NEED THE AI TO DO EVERYTHING FOR ME
WAAHH WAHHH :'(
INTERNET IS SCARY!! I WANNA GO HOME!
I NEED EVERYTHING TO BE DONE FOR ME! MOM! HELPPP! HEPL
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>>552999052
this but unironically because captcha is cringe and gay and noboody actually likes it
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>>552999312
trip on toki
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>>552999312
just stick to discord
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>>552999751
I'm not her
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>>552998089
honestly its year of the fucking horse and im surprised they havent gone back to make more OC of that
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>>553000638
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I only get the "pick the different one from 3 choices" which is far faster than having to slide the letters in. Just stop phoneposting if you're getting dogshit captchas.
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>>552999052
every generation of us has gone through this at this point, the ipad generation is retarded cause they only googled things on their phone, the first internet was retarded for relying too much on wikipedia, it goes all the way back to some of the greek philosphers saying books stopped people from memorising things, why look it up in a book when you can ask someone?
the problem isnt the technology, its lazy retards overusing it to the detriment of losing their own intelligence
i got into the advanced maths class at school before common internet, and there was one guy in there, that despite being like already university grade at his knowledge, had a calculator on him at all times and would ask it even for things as basic as 8x5 or sin90
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>>553001276
>>>reddit.com/r/iamverysmart
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>>552999312
I prefer it over the old one
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>>553001276
Sup suule
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>>553001276
really struck a nerve with this one
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CAPTCHA?
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>>553003394
I'm going to rape you Hamuko
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>>553003687
>raping males
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>>553001089
I get consistently easier captchas on my phone than on my computer. New captcha is much better than the old one btw
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>paying for shit that's free
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>9
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>>553004019
>just walk everywhere bro instead of driving or taking transit, it's free, who cares if it's 5 miles away
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>>553008714
impregnate
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>>553008774
This but biking everywhere and also unironically
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>>553008774
Yes unironically.
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>foot analogy
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>>553009294
>>553009495
That defeats the purpose of fast food when it takes you an hour to get there
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>>553008774
if you paid money to walk this would be a legitimate comparison but maybe next time you'll get it
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>>553008774
Skill issue.
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>>553008774
post weight
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>>553009645
Stop eating slop and learn to cook, fatty
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>>553009645
>>553008774
posts made by the fat-loving nigger
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*rubs 10AM breakfast belly*
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[VGL News] PES announcement delayed because nomo is in a food coma (again)
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[VGL News] VGL26 will be held on the PES your team is the worst on
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>>553009683
uhh, no. It's an apt comparison. You have a free option that takes longer and is inconvenient, and you have a cheap option with no friction.
>>553009778
post number of stars
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>>553012124
What if /myteam/ is equally shitty regardless of pes?
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[VGL News] Nomo woke up from his food coma, but is grumpy and looking for more food. PES announcement delayed
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>>553012124
>My team always end up in the same position every tournament
Doesn't narrow it down one bit.
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>>553012604
43rdbellum...
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>>553012371
He eats Anon, that's what Nomo does. He's a commissioner that loves to chow down.
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>9
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I raped my co
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I rape my fans
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>>552895296
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>>552895296
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>>553018349
Thanks Crimson.
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I raped my team
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>>553018069
Who's this boner condoner
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>>553018708
The best girl in Blue Archive.
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>>553018771
mutsuki's looking different
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>>553018771
That's not Hoshino.
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>>553018771
Asuna?
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>>553018349
>tried to jack off to
this sounds like you have ED
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>>553018771
that ain't mika
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>>553018939
>>553018886
>>553018980
>>553019012
All mid girls I'm afraid.
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>>553018349
You have no reason to hold back against Fortnite, they have very solid bitches and good 3D porn artists
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>>553018349
>haven't jacked off to YET
>fucking SMB (40th anniversary btw)
there's no way you didn't see a picture of Peach with her boobs out when you were 12 bro
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>>553019239
idk it just feels weird
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>>553019239
There are things that I just can't get hard to and that includes a child's game, and yes, Mario is a child's game.
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>>553018771
Ibuki?
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>>553019801
autism
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>>553020208
It's called having standards
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>>553020296
whatever helps you sleep at night, little autist
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>>553019239
it's mid
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Post ideas to save the cup. I'll start:
>wooden spoon manager has to take HRT until the following cup
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kill yourself
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>>553020826
i gotta say, this is a bad post my guy.
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>>553020826
/sp/ about to throw hard in winter
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i really wish gio were in charge things would be so much better man
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>>553025715
Many people named No One are saying this.
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>>553025715
denkypow
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>>553019801
you jack off to splatoon but draw the line at mario?
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>>553027105
That's not what I said. Like 90% of tendieslop doesn't fly for me.
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>>553025715
idiots are saying this
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ASS rentry doko?
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i really wish kara were in charge things would be so much better man
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>>553028258
Neve ever
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>>553028258
they didn't call it Final ASS for nothing
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>>553028258
rentrysoup is still writing it
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VGL 21 and 22 ASSes are 'ost 'edia
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>>553029362
What is nomo planning to do about this?
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>>553030003
Do?
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>>553029362
Sou hosted an emergency Final ASS with one of those two, so only one of them is missing
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>>553030003
eat more food
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>>553030003
I'm a cat who loves to eat
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Hey Nomo, do you save the response sheets from the shitpost boxes? I want to take a look at past ones
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>>553018349
which omg girl did you jack off to?
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>>553035347
is that even a question?
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>>553035347
Finii or gtfo
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>>553035347
Girl?
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>>553035889
WMA(htenian)F
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>>553035347
the slimegirl
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>>553013501
>He eats Anon
Fuck, there's no escape
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>>553043839
So the only way to avoid getting vored is to become a namefag?
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>>553044172
'fraid so
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>>553044172
I'm saying this unfortunately
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>>553044172
You tell me.
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Give war a chance.
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21 will win because denko knows the importance of aesthetics
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>>553045884
And also the 3 votes /akg/ has in there.
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>>553039641
rude bitch
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Why debate in the first place? Come home.
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Real football has never been tried
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...
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how do i install pes 17 and the uma models? i want to play online with my friend
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Denko stop eating Anons
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i miss /fa/ but there's only one man who can free them and he's not me
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Cancel your World Cup tickets.
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>>553050019
cause hes me
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PES version? Sorry I was busy eating
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>>553045884
but 21 has the same aesthetics as 20, 19, 18 & 17*
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denko ate pes19 and coincidentally we only have akg-delivered pes21 now
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>>553045884
Argie hands typed this post.
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>>553050757
Don't forget to tip your doordasher, he almost died to a turk trash truck on the way
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I have been voiceless for a while
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>>553050972
When will Denko give you a voice...
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>>553050972
RELEASE THE LOGS
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i have a smol peepee
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>>553054785
explain
is this dogging on him in hdg?
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>>553054894
Someone forgot to tripoff
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>>553056313
2 days to trip off
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Free my niggas /gtag/ and /cp77g/
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>>553054785
they don't call him "idiot" for nothing
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The only reason 19 isn't picked immediatly is because of aoba and mayeb Reso pushback. Town hall was in large agreement for 19 with only a few peddling 21
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>>553058859
Town hall was never the final say. Viewers still outweigh managers to this day and 19 vs 21 was more even there. I imagine whichever loses will be the PES we're on for a year after regardless.
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>>553058859
It'll be 21 to get it out of the way before years of 19.
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>>553058859
>>553059000
townhall was just smokescreen. neither viewers nor managers mattered for the final decision.
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>>553058859
There were a large group of guys who didn't care that much about which version, as well as Reso holding the gun to his head at the thought of 19.
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>>553059074
This and the fact that 19 was the last used version before 17 is my reasoning why 21 will be used first.
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>>553058204
>idiot was baldyose
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>>553059091
But it's going to be 19.
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i still think that switching for the sake of switching is dumb, nobody is complaining about 17 and you'll hear many complaints about whatever the fuck is gonna be next
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Unironically town hall wanted 16 before 21, but vglco people really want 21 (/akg/) so I guess you are all retarded for participating on that.
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>>553059791
This is literally not true lol
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>>553059791
The 16 part is a lie, the 21 part is true.
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>>553059759
the fact that the ruleset change completely shifted the meta shows that it can be shaken up without switching games, the only real issue with 17 at this point is cornerheaderlol but it's still inconsistent enough that it's fine
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>>553059759
>>553060028
There's also no good reason to stay on the same thing forever.
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>>553059871
>>553060009
It isn't a lie, managers like 16 but they were quickly reminded that the argument was only 19 or 21. But the support for 16 was probably bigger than for 21, Reso himself has said he likes 16 too.
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>>553060028
Except the meta was worse as a result. vgl25 is probably my least favorite of the three "Return to 17" vgls.
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>>553060140
don't try to fix what ain't broken. there's no better alternative.
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>>553060198
It was worse, yes, but it was also very much different. It's a proof of concept that the meta can change without the game changing, and it's just a matter of finding a not bad ruleset, perhaps through the abundance of invitationals VGL has.
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>>553059759
I think doing 17 forever is honestly a much more boring decision.
t. town haller
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>>553060302
>there's no better alternative
true if you ignore 16, 18, 19, 21 and probably 20
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>>553059759
17 was getting a bit stale. The rotation of 17/19/21 is the most ideal in my opinion.
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>>553060715
is there any manager this raped by 17 besides the brush
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>>553060715
I said better.
Shoving a red hot rod up your ass is an alternative to medicine, but not a good one.
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>>553060945
What if you have a huge wound that's hemorraging and you need to suture it or cauterize fast?
It's all context dependent my friend.
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I'm really curious who is trying so hard to go
>Bro we should only be on 17 until the end of time, only 17 bro. It totally won't get stale after 3 years bro you don't get it, just ignore the reason why Winter 19 was on 16 bro, If we don't keep being on 17 I'm literally going to kill myself bro.
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I am a lazy bastard. Which team should I copy for Winter?
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>>553061321
The reason why you keep coming back to 17 is the reason why changing it is pointless.
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>>553061369
Just go the /h/ route and copy the /out/ 4-4-2 diamond or w/e it is.
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>>553061321
I'm just saying that a switch isn't necessary and I like 17. We can switch if that's the consensus. I'll still enjoy the beautiful game regardless.
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>>553061485
I don't hate 17 myself, but I also don't want to ONLY be on or ONLY watch 17.
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>>553061369
copy /vg/ of course
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>>553061610
The average viewer doesn't care or doesn't know that there are different PES versions, let alone how they're different and why it matters.
4CC/VGL/VTL could be entirely disconnected from the discourse and the interest wouldn't be smaller. If anything, the change to 15 shows that it can backfire on the engagement side more than not.
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>>553061801
>if anything, the change to 15 shows-
Stopped reading right there. The average viewer doesn't care and 15 is not the source of all your woes.
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>>553062215
15 definitely had an awful showing at first. Akko and Fetus felt unwatchable, and I thought 15 was completely fucking doomed to the extent that I was less interested in Autumn. It ended up being a lot better than expected, but low-quality 15 is the worst divegrass viewing I've seen in years, and higher-quality 15 is still pretty meh.
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>>553062215
raped
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raped by crimson, the both of you
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sexiest /zzz/ girl btw
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>mention a black man
>sudden /zzz/ post
noooticing
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>>553061801
The average viewer will start to notice the subtilties if you stay on a version for too long. It gets amplified when the commentary keeps mentioning it such as the corner goals in 17 and the 343 + and blunders in 21. Pre-fox looks different compared to fox pes so there is that. I agree with you on 15, however.
>>553062371
I want to see how well Winter goes before I give my opinion on 15. Coming out of Autumn it has been a low point in my enjoyment of divegrass.
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>>553062371
and I would still say vgl25 was worse the Autumn 25. Rulesets can really make or break a PES experience and it didn't help that /1999/ was far less memorable than autumn 25 /vg/. The best timeline where vgl25 was better than autumn 25 for me was if /hanny/ had kept winning off of 1-0 slurper meme matches at chagrin of the managers and won the vgl.
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>>553061321
17 is my favorite and I would stay on it with no issues. But if we are changing I would pick 19 because the gameplay is also fun, I'm not really about 21. 21 is full of patch faggotry too, with mostly people "remembering" how it was on this or that cup but no clear best one. Or snake oil from the VTL lolcows.
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>>553062560
That's not Fufu
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>>553062684
I'm still willing to wait until Winter to give a final verdict, but I'd still say 15 is the worst PES that I've watched to the extent that it negatively impacts viewing.
>>553062698
It was a bad ruleset, but it also had one of the absolutely worst teams win for it. I still generally enjoyed the matches more than Autumn in a team-agnostic sense.
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>>553062998
Since I didn't really hate Autumn 25 as much as others did here I'm pretty sure Winter is going to fairly enjoyable for myself. Of course who will win will play a factor in everyone's enjoyment, Additionally, Sou did say he was going to do a different ruleset for 15 for Spring/Summer pretty sure.
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is /vg/ going to poll music again since an active team has music in the export now
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>>553064005
It's pretty much going to be GSSBB for 4cc too or some other medal system.
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>>553064741
They'll discuss ideas on QnA and probably have a suggestion and feedback form during Winter final day.
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>>553064713
KWABellum...
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It's been 72 hours since Denko's wish to announce the decision within 48 hours.
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>>553068346
11 pm dinner he has to have a good meal
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>>553034775
hello yes. are you looking for one in particular?
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>>553068346
>It's been 72
HOT
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>>553068535
denko what's your favorite dead (not general who isn't participating, but general that is actually dead) team
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>>553068535
The ones that are just labeled shitpost box, so probably the ones from VGL19/X-2 to today
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>>553062906
>Or snake oil from the VTL lolcows.
Well, we tried
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>>553068638
tough one I had to think about it, but I think /csgog/ (now on /vm/) would've been fun given how into CS2 I've been lately.
>>553068996
X-2: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_po7FHh-2SbXYqM-QWAaBgiRIVseWEdbEabTyq3xWYQ/edit?usp=sharing
21: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YOKD_mxL54YA4QjnhD9tC-oIEDpRx3F3ru3z6Ub-A8/edit?usp=sharing
22: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19OGCrcxWkVyeBZ-C6L-5YCAEcy6-ZVaffWkTDckhH4E/edit?usp=sharing
23: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TlM0KWICF4lX8e9xAeK23nf5in4AEFxc0EmhnSymF5U/edit?usp=sharing
24: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OyoUljo6Qz1ujzpRA8XiJvOUTRGK_5jkIlCN3MXUhWM/edit?usp=sharing
25: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RfPeoFty1Km0xMPZT7ietPRmkGkOHR60Aw-yqOO0pLw/edit?usp=sharing
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>>553069636
da pomu
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What happened to the final ASS vod? it was up on twitch for a while.
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>>553069881
'ost 'edia.
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>>553069881
it'll be up on yt soon, dw
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but what pes is agl going to be on?
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I want to breed all cute little girls so baaaad, uooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Shoutout to Reso's sister
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>>553069636
Finally I can compile the Reso Jr chronicles since you won't do it
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>>553070293
sorry this PES bullshit is kicking my ass
>>553070123
17 so hold onto it
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>>553070293
You'll still need the audio track from 21 and 22 (lost media)
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>>553070342
Don't worry, AI Beebs will fill in. It won't actually.
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OH SO FUNNY NO?
GOING INTO /4ccg/ AND JUST GOING AND POSTING AROUND:
KWABELLUM
GOOKS
KWABENTALE
PLANET RETARD
TRANNYSOUP
SNOWBUNNY
VGLCOUNCIL SUCKS
BREED MANAGERS

YOU GUYS ARE SO FUCKING FUNNY HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I LOVE /4ccg/ HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHSAHDHSADHASHDKSAGDFKAJDSHKJEWAHFWJ
FUCK YOU
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>>553071336
crimson...
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>>553071336
Raped
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Is it really hard to admit that /xivg/ looked good in 3 matches and deserved way more points? Or you just look at the results without even thinking?
You focus too much on the results, if you were to look on pure gameplay side /xivg/ looked solid all the way through. Even today, /fgog/ first goal came up due of CB fuck up aside of the 2 clear goal occasions /fgog/ didn't look good at all and /xivg/ kept attacking and trying.
Against /utg/ they were great and /utg/ ran away with a draw, against /nepgen/ they fought back to back and today /fgog/ didn't look very impressive. Admittely /nepgen/ match was also a bit luck on their part, deep throw in + reverse kick off.
Now it turns out that scoring less goals than your rival means losing. Losing is getting dominated, not winning does not equal losing, /xivg/ simply had bad luck. /fgog/ didn't win, nobody sees /fgog/ as a winner, people only respect /xivg/ more after that match.
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>>553072628
You sound bald
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>>553072628
/xivg/ didn't play today grandma, please go back to your room.
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>>553071336
this but unironically
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has /kfg/ been historically good on foxpes?
asking so if i could get my hopes up or not
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>>553078407
Fat cope.
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>>553078882
Prior to the 2nd place run, they have never made it out of Ro16, and only made it to Ro16 twice (over the course of 5 years)
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>>553078882
/kfg/ has been historically shit in all versions. But they probably had a good run on 19
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>>553078882
they won the first ladies night on 19
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Breeder Saga:

>VGL 2-X (The Box)
Beebs breeds the VGL Universe, and then foresees that due to a prophecy, he will fall by the hand of Reso Jr. (Probably a semi-canon prologue)

>VGL 21 Shitposting Box
Breebs, now the Breeder King, traps and betrays Reso Jr., the insurgent prince of the kingdom of VG, after he tries to rebel against his oppressive, tyrannical rule. Reso got continuously raped afterwards as retribution.

>VGL22 Shitposting Box
Reso Jr. escapes, resolute on finishing what he started. During his final confrontation against his own father, they clash their ideals, and just like that, Reso Jr. reconciles with his father, now following his path and making it his own.

>VGL23 Shitposting Box
A story of the past: How Breebs became the Breeder King, by battling in the Spanknausseum and defeating his final opponent, the Fatshitter from the Church of Architects. He was then crowned, and that's how his reign began. Then, a recap of the last two chapters of the saga is given, this time from the perspective of Breebs. The final sentences reveal the narrator of this chapter to be Reso Jr., now a father reading a story to his son, Reso Jr. Jr..
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>>553079656

>VGL24 Shitposting Box
First chapter written in "books" format. Gives us a glimpse into the journey of Reso Jr. Jr., now grown, who went on to make a name for himself, outside of his blood title. Started his journey beside his loyal squire, Baldyose and searched for adventure. Found Aoba, a cute girl, and after defeating the Dragon(fag), the king of the mercing dragons, he made love to her, for it was his reward. After that, all of them went towards the Spanknausseum, now a horrid place, not as shiny as before, with the mission of rescuing Soupy, an imprisoned Princess. Reso Jr. Jr. battled in a gauntlet where he faced a mercing plumber, two sisters of the sea, and the shadow of Breebs. Accomplishing his mission, he freed Soupy, but in doing so, he unleashed an eldritch horror unknowingly, Rabi the Goddess.
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4cc would be worth watching if they had an umamusume team but they dont so im stuck waiting for vgl
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>>553079884

>VGL25 Shitposting Box
Second chapter written in "books" format. This time, a kind of journal/epic recorded by Baldyose himself, squire of Reso Jr. Jr., retelling the journey his group went through to fight against the horrors they unleashed after last time. Reso Jr. Jr. goes on his journey, joined by Baldyose, his squire; Aoba, his lover and partner in battle; Soupy, princess and now oracle, freed from the Spanknausseum; and a final member, With-man, oracle of Rabi. While travelling towards their destiny, they face the recurrent threats of the dolls, led by regent Mars, and the mercing dragons, now led by Goc. After freeing those lands with the help of the rebellion incited by Soupy and the mortal wounding of Goc, they enlisted the help of Antisqua, a sea captain, who helped them traverse into deep sea territory, where they would finally face Rabi, inside her subaquatic queendom. They intered, despite the insistence of Baldyose himself, and all of them faltered with he exception of With-man. Yet, Rabi let them all go inside and meet her without any more trouble. Then it was revealed how Rabi was a primordial goddess, who was engraved onto reality itself, but also an eldritch horror, whom our heroes thought was best to beat. Despite everything, Reso Jr. Jr. managed to vanquish Rabi, leaving her for dead, yet only imprisoned. Everyone relaxed, yet reality began to unravel. Soupy, along with other oracles, lost their power of foresight, Aoba and Baldyose began to doubt Reso Jr. Jr.'s judgement, and Reso Jr. Jr. himself tried to justify his own actions as if they were for everyone's sake. With-man is the only one standing right and he proclaims that the adventure is still not over.

That's the summary; you'll have to wait for the real compilation, and yes, the chapters are getting longer with each VGL. There have been some retcons, with >notsoup being a princess and then an oracle, or >notaquantis being part of the spanknasseum duo and then being Antisqua.
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>>553080254
If this "author" is incapable of keeping a coherent world, why should I invest myself in the tales of this mystical, but incoherent, world?
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>>553081086
It has Rabi, I’m already sold on it.
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>9
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>>553061369
/vg/
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>>553070170
how young is resos sister?
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How goes testing?
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>>553092232
Testing?
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>>553092420
for winter
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>Hololive making a gacha
The /vt/ invasion angle...............
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>>553093184
Wait what
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>>553093184
>vtl has to cater to the vgl audience to survive
kekypow
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>>553093438
https://x.com/holo_dreams_en
Gacha rhythm game like Project Sekai and Bang Dream
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Happy meguca 15th anniversary
>>285109874
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>>553093810
fuck, meant to link to
>>>/a/285109874
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>>553093632
>vglel getting subjected to vtuber "music"
o i am laffin
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>>553093184
I'm going to make a general on /vg/ for this, just so i can make a hololive team for the next vgl
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K'wab, we don't give a fuck about [Potential Gook Team #21423] shut your whore mouth about it, not VGL related.
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>>553094409
Potential? It's already confirmed just like /trick/
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>>553094539
It'll be deconfirmed if he gets hit by a bus today
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>>553094539
Both "confirmed" teams are complete dogshit that deserve to get deconfirmed by this >>553094613 method.
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>>553095116
the rabi game (does not featue rabi) will be the newest pet team, you already know that
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>>553095194
There's only one Ravirihiseea Vizzall
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>>553093632
Your new VGL winners right here.
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>>553093632
>>553095424
what happens if a v-tuber graduates? do her files get deleted from the game? At least with the TCG is a physical thing
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>>553095603
Probably depends on the circumstances. If she "just" graduates and agrees to keep all archives then nothing, she just won't receive new content.
Or will but it will be dead cow milking and not really profitable.
They already said that the gacha will feature retired vtubers because some were planned to be featured on launch regardless, now it's a question of what happens after the release.
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>>553093632
>>553095424
Can't wait
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Please post the Freakie /zzz/bro pasta again
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>>553095881
https://litter.catbox.moe/3g0oioq5e0xm5e7f.mp3
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>>553096119
Thanks
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>>553096425
No problem, we need to archive ASS treasures.
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>>553095349
That epic seven character is also not Rabi.
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>>553097054
Keep coping
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I googled Ravirihiseea Vizzall and found a thug Rabi
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>>553097253
R-Rabi rapes?!!
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>>553097337
'd 'o
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Aoba cunnilingus
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>>553097719
WHAT
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>>552893013
I just found out about this.

https://hololive.wiki/wiki/DREAMS_(Video_Game)
Get ready for LITERAL Vtubers in vglel.
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>>553098840
fucking whore
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>>553098840
whore
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>>553098840
I would say she needs to clean her moldy hair, but she is already washed.
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>>553098840
Me (a whore)
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>>553098840
Wash Yuurself
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>>553098840
Anal sex
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KIYOSE GET YOUR BALD ASS HERE AND SILENCE THOSE FUCKERS, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT VTUBERS IN THE VGLCORD
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>>553100883
hmmm nyo
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>>553098840
High schoolers need to be made pregnant yesterday
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>>553100883
...
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>>553101430
Preggo is gross.
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>>553098840
I can smell her unwashed pussy through my monitor
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>>553102103
Imagine if your parents had thought that
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>>553102404
Yeah, we all would've been better off.
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>>553102404
>would've just been chilling in the formless aether instead of being forced to live and die on this shit planet
god i wish
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>>553093632
>/gbpen/ 2
no thanks
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>>553102532
>implying you wouldn't have just been born somewhere else to someone else
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>>553098840
idk why everyone is calling this cute lady a whore, she looks nice
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>>553078940
>t.Mogged
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>>553098840
Fucking slut, I bet she ends up riding a different cock every day.
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>>553103875
Yeah, My nine cocks, Maybe more.
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>>553098840
The face of the /vg/ League Qualifiers
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>>553104307
Now I want to be in the qualifiers too...
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>>553104307
that's Dantehhh
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>>553104430
With the header
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All those posts were troonsoup, no one cares about xer shitty gacha idol aids ridden whore
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>>553078407
I don't get the gay retard that keeps going "Fat bitch" whenever he sees any girl that isn't flat as an ironing board. These aren't even that big they are mediums at best so it makes even less sense and it's not like the flattie in question in the picture isn't completely flat either.
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Is no one else making logos for the winter cup?
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>>553105546
BEE
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>>553105626
I already bee'd the problem is that there isn't enough time to make a new logo from zero by now
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ewww, she's a fucking nigger and all the colors are off, dogshit drawing
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'
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mmmm yes black kweenz mmm
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>>553107868
Hadn't we had enough homosexual posts yet?
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>>553108128
I don't get it
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>>553098840
Reminder to love yourself, /4ccg/
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>>553105378
he's a pedophile
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>>553109217
No.
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>>553098840
Useless whore
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>>553105378
Hamuko is a self hating hambeast
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Thoughts on NTR?
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>>553110962
I love NTR.
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>>553110962
We all love NTR.
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>>553110962
'ate NTR, luv me AV, simple as.
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>>553110962
founding medal of /uma/
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>>553110962
Fat bitch.
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Reddit hours
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>/trick/, /sora/, /uma/, /czn/, /hlgg/ and /dna/
What do we think of VGL26 newcomers?
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>>553112326
Sovl
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>>553112326
sovl if rabi is there, dimeless, redundant, dimeless, dimeless, and dimeless
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denko here trips are for fags
there will be an ASS at 6 hours after the cup start time to announce and discuss the next PES version. give me any images to add to the stream
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>>553112885
/trickshit/ will never be soul. Rabi deserves better
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>>553112949
false news
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>>553112949
Nigger
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>>553112949
This post isn't Denko because he is still having his 10 am breakfast.
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>>553112949
fake news but you can have this image anyway
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Real denko here, the other one is a fake
I'll be having lunch for 6 hours after the cup start time. give me ideas of what to eat
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>>553113781
all the eggs
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>>553113781
Cum
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>>553113781
A horse.
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>>553110962
NTS is better
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>>553110962
BSS is better
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>>553112993
And yet, there's no /e7g/ anywhere in sight.
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>>553110962
NTFS is better
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>>553116212
NFS:U is better
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>>553116212
>NTFS
lol lmao
t. BTRFS gang
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>>553110962
Better or worse than NBR (Narita Bottom Road)?
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>>553116331
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>>553110962
APFSDS is better
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>>553110962
HMOFA is better
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>manager misses deadline
>team gets sent to qualies
>vglco misses a deadline
>...
Really activates my sphincters
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>>553119658
Breakfast is really, REALLY important.
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>>553109181
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>>553120438
Benuldy's is soulful
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>>553120627
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>>553120627
>>553120754
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>>553120754
pringles...
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>>553124373
anal sex impregnation
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>>553124373
Built for EK.
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>>553124373
Built for urethra creampies
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>>553126778
I look like this.
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>>553126778
Asuna...
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>>553126778
I feel bad for actual fans of this girl desu
Completely misrepresented by terminal coomers
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>>553127857
what is there to represent
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>>553127857
ba is a game for terminal coomers
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>>553127857
it's a gacha whore lol what the fuck is she supposed to represent besides coomer bait
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>>553126778
I need an off season /trashccg/...
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>>553127857
you sound like the kind of fella who'd go to a strip club to talk to the strippers
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>>553128572
I feel bad for actual fans of this girl desu
Completely misrepresented by terminal bees
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>>553128891
Wait, bee girl is an actual character?
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>>553127857
This post struck a nerve
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>>553127950
>>553128129
'g...
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>>553126778
Obese whore.
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>>553129704
Shut up retard.
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https://exhentai.org/g/3728241/b13d32610b/
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>>553130325
im kinda like the white eminem
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reddit hours
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thug hours
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>>553124373
Built for hugs.
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Cipher Negro
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r/blacked hours
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>>553126889
Go on a diet.
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>>553128336
I've done that before unironically
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>>553131943
post the other part too
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>>553131943
I thought Cipher was the white case one.
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>>553134481
white case, black insides
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>9
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reddit hours
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raped by horses hours
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>>553112326
>/hlgg/
Do you even actually know the rules to this league?
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>>553140415
I know the rules are fake and can be changed at any time.
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>>553140415
You mean the ones that can get conveniently ignored whenever the people who made them feel like it?
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>>553140415
>holo live games general
seems to be talk about a game so it's in :^)
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>>553140649
>>553140741
Only for big market teams, not Holoredditors.
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>>553140891
holobronies are literally the biggest vtumor market, their cancerousness and quantity are comparable to limbabs
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>>553140867
>seems to be talk about a game so it's in :^)
Ignoring the obvious ESL king, no gen. No team. Unless fatty let's them poll offsite like Sou does for /vt/!
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pes15 is so fucking bad man
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>>553141201
i put as much effort in that post as much TMA did with VTL
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>>553141457
thanks for letting us know lav
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>>553141457
the sky is blue
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>>553141457
You are going to make admin feel raped again.
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>>553141712
>>553141457
Ok Bong
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>A year of PES 15 for 4cc
>A year of PES 21 for VGL
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For the Zoerbros
https://exhentai.org/g/3728501/c5c11d635b/
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>PES consolewarfagging
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>>553141108
what quantity lol?
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>>553143749
DBC tier attendance for these games.
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>>553143749
TMA debuff
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>>553143749
Not fair, the 2huminati were watching that match.
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>>553141457
I know, it feels so shit not being able to put in the free win advanced instructions and just dab on the non-knowers.
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>>553143749
>A fucking game with /2hug and /trg/ can outdraw the whole VTL
Dismantle it quickly. It's over.
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>>553144029
truke
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>>553144029
2huminati stronk
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>>553141108
>holobronies
>quantity
not since the hack, they fucked off to their OWN (not 4*2chan) altchan and don't feel like coming back. /vt/ is low-key a dead board now.
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>>553141457
I was curious how the elite managers are feeling about it. My experience with testing on it is it's boring, frustrating, and makes the real matches boring as well because you can easily spot the stupid play patterns.
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>>553144267
I wouldn't say dead board, but it's definitely half the size it used to be.
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>>553144363
Damn so it's no different from every fucking PES ever
t. managed on 15, 16, 17, 19 and 21
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>>553144363
You would need to have an actually serious poll to see where they lie not just one where they can see the numbers so everyone monkey brains for le funni number tie.
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>>553144505
So you're saying there's a chance 18 is the good PES?
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>>553144409
and it used to be faster than /vg/, /pol/ and /v/, so it says a lot.
the single most normalfag-infested board in history.
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>>553144557
Oh you mean like one with the manager names attached to it? It hasn't been tried before.
>>553144363
It is abysmal dogshit and the difference with other PES versions to me is that you are mostly hands off because there isn't much you can change during a game. You better not be needing to score on the last minutes or your team will just feel like back passing like retards
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>>553144725
Always has been
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>>553143749
>the final VTL got 224 viewers
>a match not even being a wild card or round 16 between /2hug/ and /trg/ got 263 viewers
it's so over for the vtl
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>>553145051
Nice trip
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>>553145115
>trip
Where?
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>>553144363
it's the braindead defending and passing that kills it
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>>553144363
I don't have a feel for it. I have one setup that wins more consistently than shit I ran in summer, but it also consistently consneeds 1-2 dumbfuck goals every game where it feels like I can't get the backline to prevent that in any way. Not spaghetti mind you, just normal play that doesn't get picked up for no reason. Don't know if it's skill issue or a glass cannon meta
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>>553144363
Not liking it so far. Testing has been a pain and the menu is headache inducing.
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>>553145683
It is a glass cannon meta or a complete snoozefest depending what teams want to run.
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>>553146218
That's what it felt like, but thankfully /myteam/ seems to be serviceable at slapfighting so far.
Now slurp merchants, that's another story. I did already see a team that was already down 0-3 start to backpass for like 10 minutes despite being on counter and I don't know what to make of it
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>>553146561
I tried longball and they still back pass on it. Long ball isn't that effective of course but I can't really find any other way, and making the dline higher wasn't an answer either.
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>>553146561
>>553145683
Would either you call 15 very bipolar in this sense? Like it can't decide if it wants to be slurpy or super offensive so it just gives both?
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>>553142313
>AGL is staying on PES 17
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>>553147168
At least with the tactics I ran, kinda. The random piss breaks when they just decide to backpass or stall in the midfield after a memefest goal exchange do feel weird, and I bet there will be more than one manager accusing of busparking through no fault of his own.
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>>553147630
@grok is this true
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>>553150967
@mork is this real
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6 hours until it's going to be 96 hours since Denko's wish to announce the decision within 48 hours.
>>553151129
It is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsm6wcMtIJQ
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>>553151483
WHAT
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please stop yelling at norml she's trying her best to herd the cats of vglco
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>>553152771
t. norml
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We need someone to draw norml's oc FAT
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>>553152771
actually he's just busy listening to sabrina carpenter
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breeding norml
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my wife sue goy won't be playing in winter so i don't know if i'll tune in
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>>553156745
Didn't ask though?
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>>553156818
i asked myself if i'd watch winter tho
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>>553147168
I think if an actual attack gets going, it's challenging to have a set up that stops it because your defenders turn into sacks of concrete randomly that refuse to do anything, but the trick is that you have to have an offense that will choose to pass the ball up field instead of pissing around in the backline and sliders don't fix that problem consistently.
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My mistake was thinking that the VGL was art. I wanted to play a piece of shit unlikable version, who by the end of the season has to transform. But too many managers, when they look at this, when they have to play on anything other than 17, they’re so used to good gameplay, that if they play a version where the gameplay is unlikable or have to do some patching, they immediately get triggered by it.

So, the thing is, VGL isn't art. it's a toys for children and it’s considered in bad form to talk about anything meaningful, or impactful or thought provoking.
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Habemus PES.
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SMOKE
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AOBA WON
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>21
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>PES 21 for VGL 26/27.
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BIG ab21 melty coming
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grim nuke
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>21
Don't open town hall again, we clearly don't need it. Fuck you /akg/
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>nearly 96 hours of internal discussion
Reso sending audio messages of him half-crying begging for 21 doesn't count as internal discussion
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Raped gaping asshole of /akg/ wins
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BoB can you nominate yourself and /akg/ for KWABoty if you at least don't make one semifinal this year
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>>553159731
Hot assfuckers leak: Reso voted for 19
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CHADso RAPES and GAPES KWABccg so he can have his favorite PES and all 4ccg can do is run a seething shoot Kwabbypow!
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BoB is the please think about /akg/ 21 beggar
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>No formation ban
So everybody will run a 3-4-3. Got it.
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>VGL on 21
TMA won
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@managers
run super-soulless cookie cutter 3-4-3 pastebins as a boycott
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>>553160112
DUDE YOU CAN MAKE LIKE ENDLESS VARIATIONS OF 343
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>>553159992
/akg/ was able to 3-4-3 the hardest last time, surely they'll 3-4-3 the hardest this time as well
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>we'd rather do pes343 than 16 because 128px images and fortnite emotes
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>>553159992
That's good, 21 without 3-4-3 is gimped in terms of entertainment
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>>553160520
Correct,
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>>553160520
Meanwhile, people would unironically use a archaic PES because they stare at it for 19 hours a day and don't like the one they are currently staring at.
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21 raped bigly
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>gio ragequit already
KWAB
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>>553160520
I hope aoba chokes on some corn
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>>553160728
Actually 21 was a good thing
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quick
which sangen groomers are 21fags
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>>553160261
Such as... uh...
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>>553160980
KWABellum
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'it was simply to see points from both sides' - john woke when asked what the point of the townhall was before going against the wishes of 97% of the managers there
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>>553161013
Can we get narrower?
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>>553161013
(he is quoting BoB in townhall some days ago)
>>553161048
"Nice to hear you want 19, but sorry akg wants 21 lole"
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>>553160980
Me
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>vglco will be watching vtl on 21 for inspiration
the audience has now doubled in size
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>>553161298
Imagine being so stupid you are considering borrowing something from a dead meme league. VGLco is so washed.
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>Aoba won bigly
>Reso won bigly
>TMA won bigly
>bong won bigly
>melties from everyone else
By the time all the AB21 melties are in this is gonna be one of the most spectacular bits of KWAB farming in recent times
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>>553161298
>Sou what's to have an eye on vtl10
>Now vglco wants to watch vtl10
tma won BIGLY
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>>553161127
AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
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Nomo wants to crash VGL entirely. This is active trolling.
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>gio melty
>tma doing victory laps
not the best, but certainly the funniest outcome
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>>553161396
isn't that basically either 3-5-2 or 3-3-4 not 343
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>>553161725
The same place where 19 touched BoB and Reso.
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>>553161725
I can ask you the same thing about 19
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>>553161735
That was their cope 343 after it got banned in the 4cc
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>>553161735
The principle is the same
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>>553161429
>FGO's main writer crashed the ending of the game so hard Nomo is trying to replicate it
Art is supposed to imitate real life, not the other way around.
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[commish news] 21 will be shelved forever if it still sucks
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I'm starting to question the point of this whole town hall thing. People had solid arguments against it and they were the majority...
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>>553162349
Reso and Bob bribed nomo with Food. Nomo has gotta have a good meal.
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Why is he whispering?
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VGH we are so back
https://files.catbox.moe/emw8pf.mp4
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>>553162736
nice 404
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/2hug/ fag talking about aesthetics when his team is full of koikatsu looking dogshit.
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>>553163217
*full of static models
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Saving all these manager reactions to compare their final placement in VGL 26 and how they feel about 21 after it.
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21 May Be A Developing PES, But It Is Rich In Culture
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The somalian scammers from VTL got away with it.
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>>553161382
I cannot wait to see what will happen to TMA if this big 21 project fails with both commissioners of the big leagues watching it.
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>>553163980
>if
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im generating ai slop of denkos anime girl for this
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>>553161147
>"Nice to hear you want 19, but sorry akg wants 21 lole"
They didn't even try to hide it. The fucks could've at least thought up of a better excuse when more than 90 fucking percent of the townhall was arguing for the opposite.
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>>553163980
KWAB watch 2026 is going to go fucking insane
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>>553164139
Going to need a scraper bot just to keep up with it
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TMA is the ultimate lolcow if VTL will be a disaster (it will)
BoB and Reso are the ultimate lolcows if they won't win VGL27 (they won't)
Sou is the ultimate lolcow if the transition from 15 to 21 will happen (it absolutely will now)
What was the fucking point?
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>>553163334
sex with this fox
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>>553164202
21 won bigly
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>>553163980
If the eXpo thing or whatever wasn't enough of a humiliation ritual.
>>553164182
You will be on watch this year. >>553159818
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>>553164202
>Sou picking 21
No, it's 14 next.
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>>553164202
Lolcows won BIGLY. 2026 is the Year of the Lolcow

Screencap this faggot, you won't.
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Thankfully UC3 isn't the last shot at getting the rules right
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>>553164450
Most pathetic post of 2026 contender already
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>>553164450
holy raped
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>>553164182
Whats your official ruling for the wrestling match? Sanic won does that mean TMA won the tiebreaker for KWABOTY 2025?
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>>553164450
GODbong is making everyone SEETHE in the replies
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VTL'S FINAL STAND.
THE ULTIMATE HUMILIATION RITUAL AWAITS.
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>>553164846
Admin won KWABoty as a whole for pushing that stupid wrestling match to save crimson.
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>>553164914
and 4ccg is already kwabing out because the "stupid wrestling match" didn't go the way they wanted it to go.
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>we only needed multiple cups and the overwhelming majority of managers actively pushing against 21 to maybe come up to the conclusion that this version might be unsalvageable, but we still want to give it a try
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>>553164914
Still TMAny.
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>>553164870
2026 is more like the year of the bong heel turn
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>>553165065
Real PES21 has never been tried.
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>>553165065
I can only imagine /akg/ on their knees begging Garfield for 21, please give 343 a chance aieeee
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Is this the most important VTL has ever been?
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>>553165226
Kinda
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>>553165226
A small nod from the VGL, and basically being used as a testing ground for a dogshit PES version few people like is the most relevant it will ever be.
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>>553165128
I would have said /akg/ haven't been winning enough lately, but they just reached a semifinal. So I guess they still haven't been winning enough lately
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>>553165394
They reached a semifinal through an absolute Mickey Mouse run and lost to a newfag foid. They will never wipe away that dishonor. Activate the rigging machine
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>>553111346
Shove me up that donut
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>>553165571
The point there was that anything that isn't 7-0-0 isn't enough winning for /akg/
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>>553165718
Bro their spoon 3000 years ago... we need to give something back.
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I'm stuffed, please, no more melties
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>>553165128
>Garfield
His 50th birthday today BTW.
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>>553165778
One /akg/ spoon is the same as a thousand spoons for any other team
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>>553161373
>bong won bigly
Maybe that will make him ghost his 4cc role and get banned for 6 months, since he hates 15 oh so much
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DANTEEEEEEEEEH WITH THE FREE KICK FREE GOAL
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>>553166716
Danteh was just zero sanity for the VGL newfags
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>>553164224
That's not a good idea
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>>552948816
I chuckled anon
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>>552995006
/uma/ is better
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>>553167114
t. /uma/nigger
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>>553167170
t. Limfaggot
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>>553166905
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Leave any feedback for the cup here https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Feedback
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>>553167881
I'm not saying I wouldn't do it, I'm just saying it's a bad idea
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>>553168143
>last question was made just 3 hours after tottori's last reply
>he never responded
rip
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i hope germany gets nuked
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>>553169225
This and California
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>>553169225
>>553169910
also add thailand
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Anyway, the town hall
https://files.catbox.moe/shia2a.rar
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>>553173164
Finally, some good fucking dolphin porn.
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>>553173361
abby
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>>553173361
fuck you
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>>553173164
Based gio
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>>553167881
sex
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>>553173164
>that timezone
I instantly no longer care. The sooner you're out of the cup entirely the better.
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>>553173982
Which timezone is that?
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On second thought Gio being the strongest public anti-21 advocate was probably a mistake
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>>553173361
my wife...
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uh oh, townhall just disappeared from the 'cord
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>>553174467
KWAB, it was useless anyway.
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>>553174467
it's not needed again until a potential rules discussion anyway
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>>553174467
At this point just stop having the fucking thing. An entire week of pointless discussion only for them to push for their pet team anyways.
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>implying you will listen to what the managers got to say
Just pick everything and let me know.
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>>553174467
nigga go to bed it's the middle of the night
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>>553174056
utc +1, most of western yurop
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>>553174638
So everyone can be ignored again?
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>>553174978
yeah sure whatever man
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>>553174638
>potential rules discussion
just drop the act and give /akg/ insane buffs over anyone else.
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>>553175027
They couldn't even give one good reason to why they decided for 21 especially when pretty much everyone else was for 19.
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>>553175058
okay sure if you want but only cuz you asked
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'member when /akg/ rolled 4 red medals this vgl and won?
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just have /akg/ play with red conds and it's all good
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Time is a flat circle
https://litter.catbox.moe/9bo0gv4bmhdzk29g.mp4
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>>553175140
The entire reason was it was the least used PES besides 15, it was polling high in viewer polls, and there's an attempt at trying to salvage it so that there isn't one less PES to be used for the foreseeable future.
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>>553175140
I like to think it was because they'd have to run it again sooner or later so by doing it now with a medal rule shakeup they can get it out of the way
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>Uh akshually it is because it is the less used
>completely brush off why we stopped using it after merely two cups in the first place
lol sure, townhall my ass
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>>553175431
what's the point of trying to "salvage" something that the overwhelming majority of the people who have to actually play it don't want that at all?
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Holy shit man go to bed already
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if your reasoning is "oh it sucks lets get it out of the way"
you're fucking retarded
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>>553175645
it absolutely was not an overwhelming majority lmao
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I like 21
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>>553175707
right, I forgot that /akg/'s votes count as 10.
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>>553175645
I am fine with 21 please don't lump me in for some bullshit I don't care about
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>>553175601
>>completely brush off why we stopped using it after merely two cups in the first place
Free my niggas 14 and 15
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>>553175306
Time to learn how to make the hot dog dance in Blender so we can add it to the game.
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/akg/ is our greatest ally
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>>553175431
Then again why have a townhall for this when you're going to decide on a PES that nearly everyone doesn't want regardless. One week of pussyfooting and making it seem as if there was even a decision to make when it was all going to end up with everyone being forced into this.
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this damage control is not looking good tbdesu
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My personal preferred PES wasn't picked so I will now stop managing. I hope you learned your lesson.
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>>553175887
Actually I do wanna fuck around and learn how to insert shit into the game while we're on a PES that can do that
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>>553175963
which team
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>>553175431
The entire reason was Reso and aoba cried like bitches and made a push for it, kekypow!
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>>553175886
There is some irony about BoB/Reso voting against 15, which was also "the least used" in the cup, but endorsing another 21 move now "because it is the least used".At the very least admin made an unserious poll and not a townhall to pretend that feedback would matter.
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>>553176248
BoB wanted 15/16 but the viewers want Fox
t. knower
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The only worse thing is how they pointed out that "we will be open to try some of the older PESes". If the VGL truly goes back to >>>15 it might as well be all over.
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>>553176298
That would be Reso if anything.
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Genuinely I am glad the people who want 17 and 19 forever don't run things.
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>96 matches of 3-4-3 vs 3-4-3 where the winner is decided by which team has less defenders running in circles or strikers teleporting in the box
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>>553176478
you also have the qualifiers
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>>553176478
Just run something different and make it easier for /akg/, please they need a second star already. Many are asking for this. Also don't forget decided by the number of free kicks like the VGL 18 final KEK
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I blame Aoba.
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>>553175645
>the overwhelming majority of the people
I think you're confusing overwhelming majority with overwhelming loudest
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>>553176726
Me too, I don't even know what this faggot does other than adding cringe ass dances into the game. May SEA sink into the ocean.
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Some people here genuinely act like babies, christ is this the average VGL manager mentality?
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>>553176782
he also tricked /admin/ into thinking 15 was a good idea
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>>553176459
Who are these boogeymen of yours and where did they touch you
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>>553174112
Are you kidding me do you see the thread right now this melty level is fucking insane
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>>553176742
Is anyone louder than the 21 people though? Specially inside the council.
>>553176789
Yeah, like the manager duo that got traumatized for life from PES 19
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>>553174112
maybe people should had considered that a broken clock can still be right twice per day
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I simply do not care, at least is not 15. I already have enough with the melties and schizo breakdowns that are currently happening in /mygen/ right now.
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What makes /akg/ so special that (You) can't just make /yourteam/ beat theirs in PES21?
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>>553177017
thank you for your input my liege
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>>553176920
Great, thanks for answering my question whilst being raped by the niggas in charge. Glad I don't use this board outside of checking in on the cup.
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The only thing the town hall did was delay the announcement, kekypow!
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>>553177156
I won't bother with the next edition, period.
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>4ccg is STILL having a melty
kekypow!
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>>553177026
It'll be so funny if they shart the bed in a 3-4-3 group.
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Bring the triangular doll
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>>553177017
15 is utter trash, not even 21 is that bad. What I am upset about is having that "townhall" just to pick what the /akg/ managers wanted anyway.
>>553177026
Everyone will run their own 343 and luck will decide, like the summer cup. It's going to be dogshit but we will have our proof this time... right?
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Funnily the people with most posts in the town hall were also the same people who post all the time on the server. I for one am enjoying this raped lolcow melty
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>21 is better than 15
delusional
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This wouldn't be as big of a deal if they didn't put a lot of fuss with the townhall in the first place.
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REAL 21 HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED
THIS TIME IT'S GONNA WORK
TRUST THE PLAN
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>>553177485
there were some takes in there that kinda swayed me to trying 21 one more time tho
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>>553175431
I really want to hear how the town hall influenced this decision.
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>>553177301
First crashout of the year candidate
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>19 did great in the meme poll
>19 does great in feedback polls
>townhall wanted 19
>ackshually no, you want 21 many in thailand are saying this
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>>553177586
How much of the seething here tonight has been Gio?
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>>553177653
The overwhelming majority
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>>553177775
Copperpow!
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>19 haters are all reso
>21 haters are all gio
Tough night in here
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>>553176459
>genuinely i am glad the good times are over
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>Blaming all the criticism and backlash on the copper lolcow
That nigger was raped by 17 too until this last cup kekypow, the people that don't want 21 are a lot more than just the copper thief.
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>>553177897
You sound raped
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>>553177897
>the most recent winners
>good times
HELLOOOOO LIMBAB
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>>553177929
this is literally what happened to the KWABotY for the lolcow section
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here's your pes19
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>limBAB out of nowhere
Holy rent free
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>>553177897
limbitch...
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>>553178012
>spooning a cup is good times
sure thing man
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>VGLco psyop at full force with the damage control
Learning from the admin playbook I see. They deployed cipher or some other fucking retarded kid they got in there
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>>553177897
>/twg/
>/2hug/
>/gbfg/
>/lcg/
>/vrg/
>/1999/
>good times
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>>553178238
O
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>>553178270
You are right, the golden era will be back.... oh wait /twg/ is dead
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>everything I don't like is a psyop
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>>553178403
>every comment I don't like is from [lolcow]
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>>553178403
Everything no, but this is. 100% sure.
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>>553177485
Probably to gauge the general opinion of the rest of the managers who aren't terminally online lolcows who constantly shill their preferred brand of abysmal dogshit.
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>>553178694
>terminally online lolcows who constantly shill their preferred brand of abysmal dogshit.
Like the guys in the council?
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>>553178694
The raped lolcows who post here often are obliterated by this trvke and WILL deflect.
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>>553178792
There are managers with hundreds more messages in the last year than the commissioner, so no
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>>553178694
you're not convincing anyone that the 21 crowd isn't almost entirely made of lolcows
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How can I blame this on troonsoup this time?
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I wish to confess. I argued for you. I tried to save this league. All your worthless watch hours. I should have let VGLco kill you all. Yes, /4ccg/, I’m guilty. Guilty. Is that what you want to hear? I didn’t leak town hall. Of that I’m innocent. I’m guilty of a far more monstrous crime. I’m guilty of being a lolcow. I’ve been on trial for that my entire life. I did not do it. I did not leak town hall, but I wish that I had. Watching you stupid bastards kwab out gave me more relief than a thousand patches. I wish I was the lolcow you think I am! I wish I had enough leaks to make lolcows out of all of you. I would gladly give my life to watch you read them.
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>>553179531
she is getting a qualifier bye
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>>553179186
Nothing in my posts suggests I was doing that. This is your mind on consolewarfaggotry
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>>553179698
we're not doing that anymore because it got support and we do the opposite here at the 'co
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>>553179531
Don't think they made a single post in the townhall
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>>553179782
Based, fuck dogshit teams and fuck freebies.
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>>553180134
I <3 dogshit teams (/akg/) and freebies (pes 21)
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>>553179881
>>553179531
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nu?
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no it's over
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>a year of 15 & 21
yeah no pack it up it's over
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/4cpl/ here we come
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>>553181389
/4cpl/ was a falseflag
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I wonder which managers/caretakers are behind all the seething about 15 and 21 itt, or if most if it even is managers/caretakers. All I know is it's definitely more than one guy.
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>>553181792
I seethe about 15 but not 21.
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>>553181950
That's one down, thanks bong.
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>>553181792
Bet you wish to knew who to ban.
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>>553182079
>Immediately accuse me of being vglco/admin.
You aren't beating the raped allegations.
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>>553182045
No problem (づ  ̄ 3 ̄)づ
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>>553181792
>ends in '92
Can't make it up
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>>553182334
'd 'o
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>>553182557
>>553182557
>>553182557
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>>553181792
KWABoty tier melty: Gio
Possible melty: jnt, mundo, DEN
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>>553183561
why jnt?
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>>553182045
>anyone who gates 15 is automatically bong
nice cope admeme, 15 flopped hard



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