same shit, different tub>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212last tub: >>552968898
The trooncord is not going to like this....
comparison is the thief of joy
ds_lily looks like THAT?
based baker
is this build good? anything you would change?https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Tomo-6572/character/TomoFinallyPlays
>>553050610>See her hair>Mind immediately goes to Greta ThunbergWhat the FUCK
DO NOT EAT DA POO 2
>>553050759how dare you
>>553050154Can anyone explain me the whole tubbed meme?
>>553051541
What's fun build for keepers restart?
>>553051797reverse chill
So fucking stinky
>>553052065got mid league tubbed, unfortunately
>>553051797flicker
>>553052226that's for poop2, poe1 reverse chill has always been exceptionally good
>>553052543Ugh, fine okay I will play that trash just once
>>553052765it's the best time to make a ridiculously OP flicker build since the tree can shit out massive pdps weapons
>he is a jingakh
PoopOfExcrement2Debate me. You won't.
>look up transcendent limb options>you can get up to 60% evasion and 20% attack or cast speedThis sounds OP as fuck
>>553051797im doing vaal eq
>>553053530It is quite strong, yeah. Too bad almost everyone will pick cast/attack speed for arms and the others are miles behind in power.
>>553052226Dude, you can still get 85% damage resistance, it's extremely strong
>>553051797Bannermaxxer earthshitter champion. FREE +300% movement speed starting, FREE suppress cap, FREE 65/65 block + recover on block, FREE 150% more damage, endgame weapon is 0.00001 wisdom scrap.
cringe
>>553053775I won't player banners even if they do duodecillion damage
this league is teletubbed
>>553050610lily has noodles for arms. no way this is the same person
>deliberately run full sprint into next pack of mobs>heavy stunned doing the slow recovery animation while the monsters get some hits in>iron ward once standing killing everything on screen>repeatyou are jealous of my build
>>553053662Curse magnitude or presence area might be more useful for some builds.I'm slightly annoyed there's nothing for armor or ES.The two legs options that seem useful are life recoup and moving penalty reduction. The rest are kinda garbo.Then again how garbo can something you don't need to spend an item slot and that gives you no downside at all really be?
RELEASE DUELIST NOW
>>553054208>Curse magnitude or presence area might be more useful for some builds.>I'm slightly annoyed there's nothing for armor or ES.>The two legs options that seem useful are life recoup and moving penalty reduction. The rest are kinda garbo.>Then again how garbo can something you don't need to spend an item slot and that gives you no downside at all really be?
the doomers are seething really hard today
>>553054431whats going on here?
>>553053775banners sound so dogshit though
>>553054431How'd you get Lily's nudes?
>>553054431Is this achievable natty?
>>553054756either ftm tranny or gynecomastia in a guy. hips make me think gynecosmatai
>>553054431Anon why do you have this picture saved on your personal computer
I was going to try out d4 then I remembered you need to buy it. And its like 50 bucks. Fuck that.
3 hours of temple farmplaying field status?
>>553055535this is unironically cheating
>>553055535This is what Jonathan wants btw.
>do 13 recombs>it picked the wrong base 11 timesBFR left landmines in the codebase that only I am able to trigger
>>553055535>3 hours of temple farm>playing field status?>STANDING HERE>I REALIZE>YOU ARE JUST LIKE ME>TRYING TO MAKE HISTORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
It's UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTtISGgVpVw
>>553054756lily pre hrt
How do I get a lily gf?
>>553055535i hope you get banned
>>553050632>no self chillits dogshit
>>553055535D4 has more SOVL than this dogshit.
>>553055535you faggots are going to commit seppuku in 0.5 when ggg nerfs the ever living fuck out of this and you sperg your tranny hearts out
Has poeninja always been able to show this or is it new
Why can't we have a normal general? Why does this have to be yet another culture war? I just want to talk about the fucking game.
>>553056685cool, it should show passive books too
>>553056710They could've just stuck to their guns instead of making this normie-nigger sequel and none of this would've happened. Don't blame people for reacting to it accordingly.
>Why can't we have a normal general? Why does this have to be yet another culture war? I just want to talk about the fucking game.
>>553057052So you're a normalnigger by your own admission? Fuck off then.
just got a rakiata flow, eat shit temple exploiters
>>553057105What?
>>553057158retard
>>553057356Huh?
>>553057385retard
>>553057391Who? >>553057465Where?
>>553056710tell your fat fucking troon dev to fix his game. then we can talk
>>553055535fuck off cheater
What's up with the continuous updates?
>>553057714orders from the top or they'll get tubbed
>>553057714>What's up with the continuous updates?its for the streamer client for Tri's private league.
>>553057915i like ur hat
>>553058136Seeing that stupid reddit avatar have a goybeard kicks in a fit of rage
>>553052765It's not trash. Play Flicker and favorite waste pool or toxic sewers
>>553055535I haven't logged in since 0.3.1 dropped
>>553056685Its new, like from yesterday
>>553058136holy fucking based. is this jonathan?
>0.5 comes and it's a total poverty league, causing all the templespergs to have giga meltiesKino or cringe?
>>553058564kino fuck the bug abusers
>>553058564i quit this league in campaign until the temple surfaced and i wont play it again for a long time
>>553058564they should also reduce the amount rarity and quant on maps and add it to items
>>553058564Will there be an endgame though?
Which one do you think it is? Is it the charge gain?
>>553058564any scenario that results in jonathan getting removed without EoS is kino
Is the new Diablo Druid fun?
>>553059127bricked I'm afraid
>>553058656You're a newfag, retard and a brainlet.
>>553059127I'm only now realizing that this shit is stolen from d3. Good lord...
>>553059386yeah
>>553059410we dont want cheaters like you in our game leave
>>553059386bruh
>>55305941875% of PoE 2 is reskinned D3.
>>553059605well I'm not going to pay for it
>>553059683Power bottom? How many times have you had to have your asshole stitched back together?
>>553059605>>553059683Just use adguard
>>553059605gay niggers are in this general no wonder they suck at poe2 they are gay
>>553059568Let me elaborate on my prior post, you're a newfag because a mechanic that print currency shocks you, a retard because you think the intended use of game mechanics is cheating, and a brainlet because if you weren't you'd also build a temple. New edition, you're also an AI slop posting nigger, which is self evident.
I think it's time for us to accept that Diablo 2's stupid ass defense functioning sort of like poe-evasion was overall better design because it allowed the devs to keep monsters damage numbers in line as players couldn't really reduce their phys dmg taken that much. Very few monsters in D2 are capable of hitting so hard that they one shot a decently built character at any point in the game. After all these years GGG still can't figure out how to balance defenses.
>>553060253instant logout and its consequences
>>553060005cheater
uh oh anon melty uh oh
I hate this league I hate this mechanicI need Jonathan to die
>>553060702Haven't seen one of them make it a whole forum signature just to make sure they seethe about it in every post
>>553060702based eslGAWD
>>553058564If there's a new act, there will be more players.If no new act, next league will have fewer players.This is the only contributing factor for the majority of people who skip leagues.
ESL = trutherEFL = faker
>>553060702shame you couldn't bump the previous thread with this
>>553061025Adding Act 5 + 6 would essentially put the game in a near 1.0 state.Adding just Act 5 would be awkward because Act 6 is considerably shorter than the other acts and the Interludes would have to be scrapped and replaced with another Interlude.
>>553060702POOP NUKE
>>553056497People were making bank with broken abyssPeople are making bank with broken templePeople are gonna make bank with whatever broken shit Johnny boy gonna shat out in 0.5
>add act 5>add another 2 more interludes
>>553061185Yeah I'm not expecting a new act next league. It'll probably just be atlas + shadow, since daggers are the only weapon tree that isn't just +damage on the skill tree.
>>553061383Why this nigga lookin so zesty
>>553060702Zero lies detected.
>>553061496lmao, no
>>553061083What about EFN?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-sX0EqZZZI
>>553061926Will report back next league
>>553061496winter break + poo 1. it's going to be another 0.2 tier league.
>>553061535This nigga lookin' ZESTY, this nigga lookin' MOIST, he's got sugar in his tank, he's light on his feet, he's a Ill bit fruity, he plays for the other team, he dances at the other end of the ballroom, this nigga theatrical, this nigga good with colors, this nigga gonna coordinate yo curtains wit you cushions and that shit gonna look good! This nigga lifts shirts, this nigga on the down low, this nigga be a tollet trader, this nigga gardens uphill, this nigga packs fudge, he's a friend of Dorothy, he feels the love that dare not speak Its name, he loves to dance, he's of the Uranian brotherhood, he indulges in the French vice, he has an antipathic sexual Instinct, he's fluent in Polari, he's a refugee from Sodom, he's on the wrong bus, he bats for the other team, he's temperamental, he's 'one of if you catch my drift.
>>553062382they werent even working on poe1 at any point between 0.1 launch and 0.20.5 might be even worse
>>553062484If he weren't married I'd say he is gay
>>553062337I'm saying lmao, no about you hoping for shadow btw. Nobody thinks we're getting a new act.
>>553060702TRVKE
>>553059683How often do you get your stank cavern scraped?
>>553060702thanks for funding poe2 retard
>>553057570>Dong ding!Who, where?>*Wow! Hot a what Bhababidia!”
NGL Arbiter is the worst boss fight in the entire game and probably in many games I've played
Leave Jonathan alone.
Leave Jonatroon alone.
>>553064058every poe2 pinnacle boss is dogshit
>>553060702Chris go make your new ARPG
>>553065158>>553064058poe1 pinnacles are worse btw
>jonatroon spam>tub spam>ai jeet tub spamit's all one bitter schizo isn't it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEnAU9H41kAHow can one Bald be so based?
>>553065196yes? that doesn't make poe2 bosses good
>>553065631yes poo1 very stinky
>>5530655950.4 proves that if you're a streamer who finds a way to get an extreme advantage over the economy that's ok, but anyone else gets fucked over
>>553065158i like xesht
>They had all this cool stuff prepared and instead focused on ungabungaWhat the hell is wrong with gggDidn't even know this stuff was in the game but its all there, even flails and everything
>>553066104imagine how slow the gameplay is going to be for this shit
>>553066104GGG has the smart strategy of making sure for 1.0 they have the REAL content ready to ship, they are literally edging usWhen the axes and swords are unlocked the true melee that was promised (PBUH) will be installed onto our machines
>553066231>1.2 aps for axes>1.3 aps for swords>maces have 1.1Least retarded poo1er
>>553066104who literally cares about melee at this pointthere's no way in hell the game will change in any fundamental way when they drop where lightning arrow etc isn't still clearly the best way to play the gameInfact, I think it will piss people off that there are now all these useless melee weapon types dropping diluting the loot pool, right now we're in ranged heaven
>>553066523what is funny is that lightning arrow wasnt the best way to play the game in 0.3 and it isn't one now
>>553066689poisonburst is functionally the same as lightning arrow
>>553066689spark coc builds are even worseyou could give mace skills infinite damage and have them render the player invulnerable and they still wouldnt be remotely close to the character i played this league
Melee has too many downsides and needs inherent defensive layers baked into the skills. Massive global damage reductions during melee animations, for example. Also completely removing universally hated shit like ground degens (no one likes this and zaccie should be shot into the sun for spamming this shit everywhere).
>>553067002I laugh when people beg for swords and shit. Why do they think it will be any different? They will still get buttfucked and play second fiddle to ranged. This will never change, it is inherent to the genre.
swords must be sealed away forever. the world is not ready for sword kino.
Bros... how do we save tyty?
>>553067557It's too late for xer/xim
What happened to the economy
>>553067557>Bros... how do we save tyty?>>553067621>It's too late for xer/xim
>>553067697it got, as we call it, "tubbed"
>>553067783It isn't poo1's fault, there is also wow, lol, gachashit, osrs, basically every game you DONT want to play
>>553067002Melees problem is all the animations and attacks themselves just suck.What they need to do is just anime the fuck out of the attacks so you literally dart across th escreen and slice everything or move while just pummeling stuff with your maceright now you just piddly swing infront of you like a little girl
>>553068038Lost Ark solved the melee problem but ggg come from the feminist capital of the world. They would get canceled for even daring to take ideas from a problematic game like that.
>>553068038>melee balance always gets shelved because much animations>meanwhile some retard in a dress is allowed to wave their arms and wriggle their fingers and delete the next 4 screens while still moving
>>553068476Unironically it's because of support gems. Yes, the core mechanic of the entire game, the justification for PoE's existence. It's just a fundamentally poorly designed game from the ground up.It's very simple. Support gems need to be able to 1. support many different skills, and 2. radically change the behaviour of those skills. If they can't do both of those things, then support gems are a pointless system. And because of how PoE turned out, we see what happens eventually, and we know that support gems ARE a pointless system in the end. But GGG can't act according to that knowledge, they make a game based on support gems. So they need to include pierce support, fork support, etc. All these mechanics have to exist in the game, because projectiles are BY FAR the easiest behaviour to code and modify in weird and consistent ways. Two decades ago Chris came up with "pierce, multiple projectiles, and multiple attacks supports", and just sort of figured that he'd eventually figure out more mechanics that melee could have. But he never did. There are really only four or five interesting things that support gems can do, and the rest are just various ways to modify a projectile.
>>553069203Why not make melee and ranged support gems with different abilities?
You simply cannot have meaningful combat or enemy interactions in games with ranged characters without actually putting in thought & effort to gimping the absolute fuck out of them.
>>553070101Dont gimp the ranged, just make the melee have huge attack range, and be able to move while attacking, like if Cleave at base had double the AOE and attack speed, as well as being able to do a short dash on cast, it would be fun
Why does the Amumu void thing improve the loot?
>>553070858because fuck you.what actual answer do you want here?
>>553070486GGG could never come up with anything even half as fun as the slayer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk4_XREJndMEven their support melee classes are fun as fuck to play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApuGq_QpQmEOf course poe is a much faster game but the inspiration is there they just don't even try.
>>553070101dota manages this with turn rate and the melee/ranged conundrum is essentially solved there, along with a wealth of itemization options.it's a system level change though and a game with turn rates have to be designed from the ground up with that in mind
>>553071210Dota has more balance niches which helps a lot with variety viability, there isn't enough content in PoE2 that is made with a melee niche in mind
>>553071117>INSTANTLY stunlocks and vacuums packsyeah that's a never ever for POE meleePOE2 melees have survive 30+ mobs getting free hits in before the first animation finishes
>>553069856You can't make melee support gems. That's the problem. It's a system that only really works with projectiles.
>>553065576all me btw :)
>>553073901>You can't make melee support gemsTubbed fucking retard.
>>553073901Jonathan here, you're hired.
>>553071210dota also has innate attribute gain for each differen heroes.Melee heroes ofcourse get more strength (health) and agility (armour) per level which balance out their meleeness.GGG are just dumb cunts trying to design a horrible game.
why don't they just put fortitude support in, make it only socketable to strike skills, and make it fade immediately if you use a spell or projectile skill?
>>553070101>>553071210>>553070486>>553074792lol you guys are dumb, you could absolutely have meaningful ranged combat if you just slowed down the game and made it more like it looked in the trailers
>>553075707lil gupta fell for the marketing
>ranged combat>it's just a kiting buildVery cool.
maybe fix the monster behavior first if they want to fix melee
>>553071210>dotard wants to make the game even more of a slog with turn ratesThere's a reason why you retards lost to LoL.
>>553076313>wanting the game to appeal to the lowest common denominatorplease fuck off back to diablo
>poe2 had to be a separate game because we have to fix melee>melee is even fucking worse in poe2what did they mean by this
>poo1 melee bad>d-dont worry po2 will fix this>poo2 melee badlil bros fell for it again.trvth is, GGG sucks at game design and good at throwing random shit until it sticks. And every good thing we have about poo we had to fight tooth and nail against GGG's vision and ego for it.
poe3 will fix melee and the endgame
>>553076739THREE campaigns, ONE game!
>beat tower boss>forget to click the towerFARK YOUUUU
>anon doesn't quote my own forum postsI have truly failed. Pic unrelated
>>5530767292's melee is way better than 1's. It's just that 2's ranged is also better than 1's.
>>553078102It's almost as 2 is better than 1 (shocking!)
>>553078189I wish that was true.
Ritual seems like complete ass. I've been running it for 20 maps straight and the only thing I've gotten is splinters. Meanwhile it feels like every random logbook I run, I end up finding two or three triple T1 bases that elevate my build in ways I didn't think were possible.Coincidentally, Ritualist also seems like complete ass. The charm passives are so cucked.
>>553078280have you tried using scarabs
>>553076313LoL is a baby's skinner box for the ADHD addled zoomerdota is in a league (heh) of it's own
JONATROON
what is woodful tubman up to these days?
>>553082640Mark and him are busy theory-crafting how to ruin league mechanics in PoE so more people will be forced to play PoE 2.
>finally get my temple to 50 rooms>it takes ~1 hour to clear because everything is so juiced>only get 3-4 divs at best>meanwhile prices have gone crazy and my 100 divs i have can't buy anything>everyone is farming temple so it's more time efficient to do literally any other farmamazing league, thank you jonatroon
>>553082640incursion rework but it's just fate of the vaal ported to poe1
>>553083182>i play a bad build and everyone else is at faultmentally ill retard
>>553083235this but unironically
>>553083182Why do people think divines are valuable in the first placeLike in poe1 chaoses were effectively rares. It makes sense to use them as currency. You can directly use them to get new items. But divines just reroll the stats on already good items. It seems like there's no material basis for the value of a divine. I'm not supposed to believe that Ventor's is the basis of the entire economy, am I?
>>553083507Not much else to say other than Divines are valued at what people think they're worth. They're probably just going to add more uses for Divines to adjust to that though.
>>553083507in PoE1 divines are used for metacrafts.In Poo2 divines are worth nothing.
>>553083874>b-but muh changing numbers on my items
>needs to use an omen and a divine just to roll the implicit numberswhy are they reinventing blessed orbs but shittier
>>553084183you never do that in an amount substancial enough to create a divine sink.
>>553084197>but shittierpoe2
>>553084197Because in their mind poo2 has to be different in every aspect they can make it different in, and re-using poe1 systems would be admitting poe1 did something well. They can't have that.
>>553084197Johnathon's ego dies a bit every time he has to use something from PoE1.
how is it that poe2 currencies look so much better from a fidelity aspect, but just don't hit the same as the poe1 equivalents in terms of what they make me feel?
>>553084372>why is game made with SOVL feels so SOVL>why is a soulless game made as a vanity project to grab the attention of Elden Ring twitch viewer normies feel so soullessidk anon.
>>553084293it's because they wanted items to have inherent value. they started this in poe1 years ago when they added roll variance to base items and the super rare Sacred Orb.
>>553084470it's even worse with item setspoe1 items look like janky items you could find in that world.poo2 items look like a fashion collection that someone designed just to be work together on a per-act basis.
>>553084474>super rare Sacred Orb>21c why do GGG fails at everything they do?
>>553084553it is super rare, just not super useful.
>>553084546PoE1 items feels like soul, like something straight out of it's fantasy worldPoE2 feels like a zoomer definition of "fantasy MMORPG item design" I loathe the art choice of Poo2 so bad. I literally cannot play it.
>>553084647>design a new system that is supposed to leverage the super rare orb >the system is not very useful - reflected by it's low price of 21c despite having the drop rate of literally 1/40 mirror/sacred
>>553084657BUT LOOK! LOOK! WE MADE EVERY ITEM LOOK THE SAME AND, IT'S LIKE YOU BUY THE DOMINUS FASHION COLLECTION IT'S SO GOOOOOOOD!it's so sad to watch the exilecon 2023 art talk, the guy did the item art is such a pretentious faggot and it pains me to see people like that work on these games.
>>553084740well it is useful in a small number of cases. basically it only matters on ES bases. it's a recurring theme, really.
ngl at least their art department is consistent on what they can make every league (supporter packs/loot boxes) compared to their development side
>>553084932not talking about mtx, just the base items in the game are all one single fashion collection
>>553084748when they launched poe1 they made all the f2p assets looked like they were pulled from a homeless schizophrenics fever dream to encourage people to buy mtx.
>>553084657PoE1 items are literally anti soul tho people already found alot of them are just literally some stolen photo hue shifted in photoshop in alot of casesThey're all made random at different quality at different times over different eras of the company so the game just has this dodgy mix of things, literally no base items in poe1 look good,the art is literally the only part of poe2 that is objectively good thats the fucking problem the game sucks, but literally poe2 art saves me from buying mtx its literally better than the shit in the store
>>553012962The disciple of varashta is gigabusted. I'm deleting entire screens of juiced T16 maps with 2 div investment. Really fun to play and looks good too. Just be aware that you're giving commands, but the minions deal the damage, not you.
>>553085068this is a good thing desu, it adds immersion and realism to it because let's face it: this is what an exile butchering his path through random schizo zombies would look like. he wouldn't wear the next hugo boss suit.
>>553085068no, they simply were bad at art because they had no actual artists working there and their models had literally 12 polygons with bolts painted on
>>553084657>Need +skil on gear>Also need +mastery mandatory support gem>This for every buildSuch diversity
>>553085173ah yes, immersion and realism while look like a ps1 game, yeah totally
>>553085524i am not talking about the graphical fidelity of the models, i am talking about them not feeling like 1 guy designed all the pieces and made a fashion collection.i suspect you knew that already and are just trying to argue in bad faith anyway. retard.
>>553085092hue is off and uninteresting i'm not playing your shit game.
Divines are used as currency precisely because nobody uses them.
>>553085092the art of poo2 might be "good" by conventional measures, sure. the environment is good without critique, i give you that.but the items feel so goddamn sterile, like squeezed out froma soulless production line, it's incredibly bad for game feel.
>>553085605>1 guy designed all the pieces and made a fashion collection.This is also literally how i feel but can't quite put into words.It's too 'fashionistic' for a schizo fantasy setting of Path of Exile. And too monotonous at that too, every piece feels like it was designed by the literal same 1 guy.It's just too 'fashion' and lack 'imagination' and 'fantasy'
not playing 0.5 unless it comes with act 5 and 6
>>553086045it's because they went for conventionally good looks and consistency, when it's supposed to be a bunch of different civilizations, each doing their very distinct thing.
>>553086045>left>yep i found this on some hobo ranger inna woods that happens to be into some jungle god shit>right>I bought on this at the Wreacci store, Autumn collection, totally trending design right now, slayyy
>>553086060people really care about the acts? that's news to me.
poo2 items look better by fashion standards, but miles worse by what a random item you find in a cruel world like wraeclast would look like.
You're supposed to use gazillion of divines to reroll the ranges on your uniques and rares, just as Chris Wilson envisioned.
>>553086193early poe was what a bald headed gentleman would call a "dark pattern", if you didn't want to look like a retard you would grind or swipe.
>>553086045The item you posted is pretty obvious that it's supposed to be the same exact thing but more run down years later not a very good comparisoninfact lore wise it makes more sense visually to me
>>553086450again, it's not about graphical fidelity, but look, feel and consistency of item designs that are bad in 2
>>553086519the right item is the version that's older in-game, yet it looks more pimped out.
>>553086519the feel and look and consistancy was bad in poe1 and is good in poe2 I have the literal opposite opinion to youpoe2 is way more inline with how d1/d2 was items wise where things weren't all retarded purple and hyper yellow and stupid looking runescape items
2 mirrors chase item with the most forgetable design in RPG history...The first time I ever looked at PoE's headhunter it burnt into my memory ever since. Now that's a chase item design.
>>553086610so you want your fucked up fantasy world that has like 10 different factions that are all very different from each other still use the same kind of fashion style across all of them?
>>553086609>>553086045That item literally says its by some person who shed their regal past and went to live in the forest, and the future version is the same item but run down and covered with furs and shamanic stuff, makes sense to me other than some bright red retarded gold sparkly gown being worn in a forest
>>553086698im pretty sure thats not whats happening poe2 literally every act gear looks totally different, literally poe1 vaal armour was just plate armour that looked nothing like aztec stuff whereas in poe2 you get to act3 and shit looks like you stepped into apocalypto
>>553086701ummm the only thing that speaks to me with the PoE2 design is "look me im literally Guts from Berserk"
>>553086696>the chase item is a movement qolgrim
>>553086610that is exactly why it's bad, it looks incredible consistent across all the different in-game cultures, and nothing like thousands of different people made these items at different times in the history of wraeclast, they all came out of the same fashion collection released least year.
>>553086696That's because you were younger and less jaded and literally a purple dildo could've been the image for headhunter and you would say the same thing about how it's sovlits already a known fact poe1 items were literally made in like 3 seconds in most cases
>>553086519there was no consistency of f2p item design in early poe1, you character looked like a retard and rogue exiles would mog you because they were decked out in shit from the cast shop.
>>553086843>players subconsciously chase the zoom>dev subconsciously design the zoom as chaseUmmm, meaningful bros..?
>>553086876that is exactly what adds soul to the game, items not looking like mtx shop slop by default. it takes away from the immersion.
>>553086843I'm sure there's some cool offensive combos to do with it but yeah most people seem to just use it to Blink more.
>>553086985soul doesn't exist in games they are products, the art that is made for games is literally always rushed shit with monetary policy in mind dont kid yourself, any soul a game has is mostly accidental and most of it is just nostalgia
>>553086874>its already a known fact poe1 items were literally made in like 3 seconds in most cases3 seconds desing with soul and heart in my will always beat a full 10 man team designer without souls and heart anon.just look at Killing Floor 1,2,3Some autist designer literally willed his way from concept art into a game into a published game and birthed KF1. Then soulless corpos went in and ruined the thing forever while trying to professionally replicate the dark, gritty, thriller design from KF1 and fail spectaculary on both KF2 and KF3.>tfw soulless
>>553086212>People care about new maps and new bosses?Retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EtaH8bPtQwIt's finally up
>>553087112I think you just have bad taste and are old anon and when you look at ugly shit stuff you are reminded of your youth and the fun you hadpoe2 items literally are based im glad I dont look fucking stupid anymore and that I can actually get a look i like without paying china money
>>553087093>soul doesn't exists in games
>>553087347>old ugly tranny shit
>>553087260>>553087354>t. born last month
>>553087093i don't care about the intention, i care about what it invokes inside of me, and poo2 stuff looks like fashion collection slop, and poe1 does not. the reason for it doesn't matter to me.
>>553087554the monetary policy of the game was to literally make you as ugly and stupid looking as possible so you buy the wardrobe setsyou are retarded
>>553087841>walk around killing monsters, zombies, skeletons, demons, literal gods, schizos from another dimension>looks like a fashionista wearing their itemsYou are supposed to look ugly and stupid anon, it's part of the immersion.MTX are for paypigs that want a chinese fantasy with fiery 5 colors wings in their games anyway.
>>553087841>i don't care about the intentionwraeclast is a fucked up world where beauty means nothing and you'll make do with random pieces of gear from different sources. poe1 invoked this feeling perfectly. it's another instance of doing the right thing for the wrong reasons and making things good on accident.
>>553087841this was mostly about fidelity, not about actual design of items. even the higher fidelity race reward items look more soulful than the fashion collection poo2 slop
>>553088021sorry anon but poe2 items are sovl you just are a boomer>gloves look like they're clapping, called Leopolds Applausebased as fuckunironically the art is the last problem poe2 has I want all the fucking classes already
>>553088253again, environmental art: top notch.item art and item art fidelity: top notchgame feel from the item designs: worse than poe1.
Acolyte of Chayula is actually really fun. Shame you need to spend a minimum of 8 bucks for it though.
the issue with poo2 items is simple: they are overdesigned as fuck, and it's sad they let the artfag run rampant like that.
>>553088326retard
>>553088485retard
>>553088460and if poe2 released with poe1 tier item arts the majority of people would've fucking laughed at them in 2024The few legacy mtx armours they've enabled in poe2 look absolutely horrific compared to the new stuff, I think this is why they've probably stealth cancelled porting most of them, the ones from really long time ago probably gunna look like ps1 cars in gran turismo 7
>>553088460Item design is the best part of PoE2 though
>>553088723>it's all about how it looks, and not how it playsgrim
A serious issue with 2 is that the base gear looks much better than MTX
>>553088460worst takes ive seenif anything its the only part of the game with any actual care and sovl put into it, all the art in the game is hard carrying the awful game designthe only reason im looking forward to 1.0 is to see what the other acts and gear look like I could give a fuck about the endgame at this point
>>553088806>how it playshow does a 3D model that is literally swappable with a store skin any actual influence on gameplay retard
>>553087227>Build of the week: Flicker strike duelistBros...
if poe2 had poe1s bad graphics and art and poe2s bad game design the company would be literally in the ground right now, poe2 wouldve got like 200k people at best on EA launch if it looked like an associate of grim dawn stillthey can't release a game on ps5 with such bad ugly runescape tier designs in 2020+
>>553088915it's in context to the whole game. they put in all the work into the looks, and it plays like dogshit. it feels like 95% of the game's development team is artists running wild.
people misunderstanding on purpose. i never said the art looks bad, it looks stunningly good in terms of fidelity, that's good.it looks bad in terms of design, theme, and that it's just 1 big fashion collection, not items organically made by different cultures, subcultures and people.
The only thing poe2 has going for it is the art. The artstyle is good. 75% of poe1 looks like turbo arse. My only complaint would be that armours are over designed but they want grim dark realism and adding more shit to the armour makes it more 'real'
>>553090926it just don't feel like you cobbled together your gear from shit a random zombie, bandit, old hag, vaal warrior and priest droppedfor you.
retardposter working an extra shift today
>>553057356>>553057391>>553057465>>553088485>>553088530>>553089301>>553089934>>553091134>>553091330>>553087272
retardretardposter working an extra shift today
>poe2 has been in development for so long that the older assets in act 1 are starting to show their agelmao
>>553091425
>>553092758RetardCuck is in shambles after this one, chief. Holy kek.
>>553092758i love this thankscan you maybe make retardposter brown?
>>553092885I'll do this for you next time i post the image if i remember
>>553066104>Cyclone>1.7 Total Attack Time
Only 2 months of this retardation until 3.28 saves us
>>553092758
>>553092758this is unfair
>>553093547>implying cyclone will be in
>>553093695KEKAROO
/poeg/
>>553093637Did AI reconstuct this off my drawing? That's pretty incredible. I've wondered if it could parse what i drew before but i assumed my shitty style would interfere with its understanding
>>553093985yes, and this is with some additional prompting. i told it to set the whole thing in an indian callcenter, and it worked perfectly. i still prefer your original art though.>>553093976
>>553093695real?
I'm a newfag and after playing Druid I noticed that this game really hates melee, all the shit on the floor actively goes against playing melee unless they can make their swings and skills somewhat ranged as well
eradicate shroudwalker
>>553094821Why? It's good to force ranged players to have to deal with enemies in their face sometimes.
another pawnyhof OP buldhttps://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/p4wnyhof/builds/disciple-triple-jin
>>553094821its there for balance reasons otherwise hh would be to strong. if you dont like it leave. there are enough other games you could play, chudcel
>>553094929>good to force ranged players>to force>forceGreat game there jonathan
poop2 is bad
>>553095018I don't even know what to say.
>>553095464>what is a starting pointretardo mc reta
>>553095464why would you take any other route as disciple
>>553095102OH NONO RANGEDSISSIES WE CAN'T GET CLOSE TO ENEMIES
3.28 when
>>553098049why do you even care also make your own general. this is a poe 2 general and no I dont care about the titel. dont even bother responding just fuck off
>>553098241you bloody banchod fuck your mother
>>553098049THIS THIS THIS
>run temple>server shits itself after 3 rooms and kicks me to main menu>temple closedWhy do I even bother coming back to this game. It's always fucking something.
>>553094929They already do this with other things, like bubbles. It doesn't bug me when it's on monsters, it bugs me when i steal it with headhunter because i don't get any say in where i am going for a minute.
>teleporting exploding the screen and dropping 100 divines per minutePooE2 became everything bad that retards joked PoE1 was.
>>553095018nobody cares about the irrelevant hearthstone viewbotter, just stop advertizing
>>553098637Just wait until you>upgrade something on an altar>get disconnected >lose item
>>553099726that's why you always take the altar item
the guy with the red name is a ggg dev. pure insanity how smug they are about this dog shit design.
>>553099790>bandaid to fix shitty mechanicPoE2 in a nutshell
watched some video about dot cap and it's clear that poo2 has been coded by the same unwashed jeets that coded d4.every day I hate ggg more and more.
Oh boy I sure can't wait to fight innocence again at the end of act 5.
>dragging abyss monsters outside the void is an actual mechanic
>>553099873what the fuck are you talking about
>>553100021won't be so innocent when i'm finished with his golden arse
>>553100631dragging bosses outside their void isn't the only condition to shit out omens in abyss
>Oh boy I sure can't wait to fight innocence again at the end of act 5.
>>553100631fuck off tourist
>>553100790>poo2 player calling anyone else a touristlollmao even
>>553100776>innocence was behind orianna and reviving the beasts>he's also behind the religious cult in act 4
>christianity badI am so tired of this shit. How about islam = bad for once?
>>553100631nta but when an abyssal spawns with amamamu void it summons a giant whirlwind swirl. If you kill the rare in the swirl, you get omens of the liege. If you pull the rare out, you get good abyssal currency. The dev confirmed there are more cases of this.Most people see the rare and kill it, resulting in shitty drops. Only those with the meta knowledge know to manipulate the rare for better drops.
karui lives matter
Why is it that before, 75% of my rogue exiles were abyssal, but after speccing into them and running overrun maps, I can't find a single one?
>yeah we should add this secret loot mechanic for players to find where they herd the monsters in cagesChris, I... we really didn't like the nets, but it wasn't your fault...
>>553100725of course it must not be, since getting any loot from abyss is literally impossible without this strat.
>>553101435>expecting anything in this fucking game to work as described
>>553101092even the worst deities in poe are shown to be less destructive than Thaumaturgy and the Beast it what's caused the last several Cataclysms, even with gods being assholes and warmongers it's pretty consistent that Sin making the Beast was a mistake and has fucked over the entire world multiple times. also the purity rebellion was basically totally justified in retrospect and implanting virtue gems in your body is a horrible idea that drives people mad, theres a reason the Azmeri are the oldest surviving culture and it's because they have a 1000000 year old absolute fatwah against using them.Right now literally none of the gods are even around because the Beast is still alive, Thaumaturgy puts divinity to sleep and lets mortals wield the reality warping power directly instead of empowering gods with faith. I'm sure we'll get a second round with Kitava by act 6 but so far Sin is by far the number one fuckup of poe2's plot
Garukhans dropped right as I died, I think I'm about to punch a hole in the screen
>>553101949>Kitavahe's dead dead though
>>553102123So was Kaom. And yet....
poe2 is dei slop
>>553101949but tangmazu is still fucking around...
>>553102236and yet he's in the Halls of the Dead where the dead Karui live, yes.We already know that Act 6 is going to be us fighting the Beast itself
>>553102089this might end up being a good thing. just hear me out here
but there's no one there in the halls of the dead...
>>553102808because kitava got a lil uppity and delayed the tournament pls understand pls buy supporter packs so hinekora can fix things PLEASE ANON
>>553102914Only if Hinekora gives me a footjob
Am I really playing the poopx league tomorrow.Thinking at least assassin or pathfinder but I can't decide a skill.
>>553104150>not playing Tri's PoE2 league with at least 13k peopleretard
Path of Exile mobile?
>>553104260Why would I play a game with no content and no skills.I ain't touching pooe2 until 0.5 retard
>>553104341Mobile tub
For poop 2? It's over. it's over for Poop2.Poop 2? YEPbig stink.
>>553104437yes, 0.5 will fix everything.
>7 years developing shapeshifting>just to slam and cleaveI don't think it was worth it.
>>553105118tubbed
>>553105027NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT NO IT WONT
>>553054431>yes I take fin and eat lots of healthy[sic] grains, how could you tell?
>>553105118zizaran said shapeshifting is amazing and the druid is the best class in ANY arpg.
>>553105118>slam>cleave>vomitI swear even D3 had more interesting skills on launch
I must be crazy or something because I don't see the appeal of bear. I tried playing it and it's slower than a warrior.>but anon wait 30 hours and invest in self chill to make it fast!kys.
>>553105927but you can also do self chill on a mobile projectile/caster build
>>553105927you play classes you are sexually attracted toif you don't want to fuck the bear don't play it
Whats the most comfy, strongest and fun class to play besides PF whatever
>>553106715bloodcuck spark cockstormweaver spark cockstaff + focus ascendency spark cockinb4 ungabunga, doesnt matter which one you pick apart from larping reasons
>>553106715>besides PF whateverngl no meme no joke I dont fucking care what you want and what you asked for. its poisonburst pathfinder and you better play it
Will they ever make triggering comet bad? Its no 0.1 pre nerf but it seems like no matter how many times they hit it with the stick, there's always ways to get good energy generation.
good builds can get away with a cluster or two worth of damage while being near immortal with just 2-3 clusters worth of defense aka es. the rest should be put into less movement penalty and movement speed. if your build doesnt have at least 100% ms while sprinting without any buffs you are playing a shit build.
Imagine joining a private league made entirely of people who choose to play Righteous Fire
>>553105157dont worry, 0.6 will fix everything
>>553108202so far they've:>nerfed energy gain>nerfed comet directly (twice)>absolutely gutted mana stackingthey'll probably nerf energy generation againor if they really hate us, increase the costbut I agree CoC comet needs to get nuked, that shit is on a quarter of all builds.
>>553109139No one wants to play their shitty combo, people find 1 good thing and slap it on every build kek, will GGG ever get the hint?
>>553109139>destroying an entire system because of 1 outlierclassic F tier GGG balancing
Yep looks like a good investment
>>553109561stop being problematic
>>553109561Is that a reference to scourge league?
Anyone familiar with bleed for amazon? I've been able to get to decent t15 maps but am hitting a hard wall. Also after the recent patch bloodhound mark doesn't seem to be building on bosses anymore. Random 1 shots are also becoming a big issue, I tried taking stalking panther to utilize some ES but it's here or there. I don't know if there an alternative build to segway into with spear
I hate Poe 2
Become Heister
>>553111074>PoE2 Heist>It comes combined with Mercs
>>553111074>Become Heister
>>553111353I look like this
>>553111640tytykiller? is that you? please be normal again
>>553111074I don't like Heist.I like in map mechanics that involve killing a large number of monsters in a circle.
Three months until 0.5 :)
>>553113436If I was a tradie I'd do simulacrums all day.
>>553113584Sims are boring though because they're out of maps
When there's only 1 good simulacrum layout, fuck doing them
FUCKING FINALLYI was seething so fucking hard already. It took me over 10 tries to get the fucking architect into the right spot after tearing down my temple to re-build the perfect one.
>>553114545that's the wrong spot you want him in the corner you idiot
>>553114545>he is not doing a russian techYikes
>>553114698No, this is the perfect temple that fub is also building. https://sulozor.github.io/#/atziri-temple?t=ACFIIUghSCFIIUhgOWA5YDlgSCE5ESkRKRE5IUhgKQCYACkySCE5EjEAeRFpIUhgcGl6cClwSCE5eXpwMRJ6IUgyaXBhOXGASCIxOWEIQGkxIgThe spot is right. >>553114712Those are the remnants of my old temple, and the reason why I had to tear it all down. I farmed up 2 spy medallions and 4 locks, and will start fresh now that I correctly placed the architect.
the tub is a sink of joy
>>553114698retard
>>553113571god please smite jonatroon
>>553114545You couldn't pay me to engage with this
>>553115631Yeah, I can see why it would be intimidating for a brainlet.
>>553113571Four*
What is Jonathan going to do about currency inflation
>>553115867>You need to be high IQ like myself to engage in this humiliation ritual
>>553116020Why should he care? The game is meant to be dropped after 2 weeks.
>>553116020lollmao
>>553116020He got your supporter pack money, he doesn't care
>>553116091It's an autist game in an autist genre, if you get put off by autism play something else.
>>553115867poe2 players be like>after some careful consideration and planning i've decided to rework this area of my temple, i'll utilize roman roads for the golem works and russian tech on spymasters. poe1 players be like>they is walls on muh breach!!
Apologize.
>>553115867Huh? You simply pull up the drive doc that has the layout solved. There is no critical thinking. You just copy paste when you roll the correct pieces
>>553116473oh, this post will make them angry
>>553116519sorry
>>553116473They wont like this one, chief
>>553116615It makes a lot more sense hearing the complaints about how long it takes to set up temples if this is how most of you are doing it
I just don't like the infinite Atlas in PoE2.Simple as.
>>553116615If that is the case, then why are all the temples people post here and on reddit completely fucked clown shit?
>>553116473Whoever is saying the first got drowned out by>BAN FUBGOOON NYOOOWhowever
>>553116473Really struck a nerve with this one
>>553116473Holy TRVKE
>ruetub still not banned>tubgun still not banned
>>553114545this league mechanic is so fucking dogshit
>>553118059It's literally the single best mechanic they ever added to either game. The only thing that comes close was affliction.
>>553118303it is not. it takes away from maps which are the main thing in poe.
>kill architect>my temple gets absolutely evisceratedit's over
out of map mechanics are better
>>553116020It's not actually a problem, just use your divs. Tighten up those affix rolls!
>>553117938>>ruetub still not bannedyes and?he only raped one chinkoid chick
>>553118394maps suck ass in poo 2 so temple is relatively good despite this
Poop 2? Noxious fumes
Idk what is a better leveling for Oracle - frost wolf or plant spells
>>553120364Frost Wolf felt pretty good in the campaign, the lack of defenses only really catch up with it in maps
WE DIDN'T SHART THE POOP2IT WAS ALWAYS TURDING WHILE THE WORLD IS TURNING
>>553120642i found the the exact opposite, felt like ass in campaign and i died ten seconds into clearfell but in maps half your tree is defenses and you're freezing the entire screen anyways.
what if you could 3 to 1 exalts into a single greater exalt SHARD. and then also 3 to 1 a greater exalt into 1 perfect exalt SHARD?same with chaos, regal and so on.
>>553121121>and i died ten seconds into clearfellKek that's Johnny's vision of poo2. Le friction in the campaign where a hag legit one-shots on lvl1 you if you don't dodge roll out of the red circle she spawns
>>553121507why
>>553121628>>553121507kike
>>553121359Exalts being very inexpensive is a design goal, not an oversight. They want you to feel free to use them in the campaign
>>553122162that can still be true if you can 3 to 1 them into shards. you would need 30 exalts to get 1 greater exalt. its not something you can do in the campaign. and you also only unlock the reforge in act 3. it wouldnt be a campaign viable sink
>>553120642I'm usually anti-melee but I guess I'll give wolf a shot for fresh leveling
>>553116352sadly it's only 10% autism and 90% getting fucked by RNG
>>553123598Works for me. Snake is already bussin.
>>553123739>he started a second chain so it loops in the center
>>553123861The right snake is still the one from my old temple, that I maintain to farm for locks. Shit in the middle is balanced in a way so I only lose 2 rooms per cycle.
>>553124006Ok.
>>553123739this is not the fub temple btw. he is using russian shit for the spymaster chains, so your temple is pretty shit.i hope this helps "autist"
>>553124717Okay, again. The right side of the snake is from my old temple that I tore down. This is the part I'm rebuilding.
>softcore losers think they are clever for copy pasting their streamers strategy month 2i hope jonatroon has a meltdown and we get 3.15 v2
>>553124871just wait until you do the corners lmaoi did one corner like that, took me almost 20 temples to go around the corner, went on a little and randomly got fucked by a lot of progress, now i said fuck it 70% efficiency is enough for me, but you do you
>>553124915retard
I just put my rooms wherever while I try to path to titziri
>>553125206I think having my old spy chain alive helps a ton, I'm constantly stocked on locks.
>>553123017I think you'll enjoy it. I found it to be an example of combo gameplay that actually felt pretty good instead of a total chore. The only real issue I have with frost wolf (and all of the shapeshifting modes) is that they only really have one set of abilities, so everyone who plays frost wolf is using lunar assault > shred > cross slash with very little variation.
>>553124915Like you HC SSF fags don't do the same.
And another one down. It's that easy.
the tub overfloweth the brim
>>553126178HE LOOPED IT LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>553126178Blowout when?
I don't feel so good, poopwunsisters....
>>553126507retard
>>553126715>Bottedvs.>MurderedWhy is it so close? Just a mere 5% difference. Did people really hate 0.4 that much?
>>553126178oh no no no
>>553126715both poos looking like stinkers
>>553116020You're not meant to play for more than 1 month at the absolute maximum sweaty
Poo 2? brrrrappp
>>553094929There's no point to shit like this because monsters getting close to ranged players just means they're temporarily melee players. The point should be that being in melee range isn't a downside.
>>553126715There will 90% retention on private league tomorrow.
>>553128183>15000 people want to get in a hot fresh tub with Tri
>open lily's stream>1 minute into the stream>raging boner and precum leakingshe is so sexy
quick post the unfiltered larry pic before this guy touches his penis
>>553128652>>553128385
>>553128385fuck off she's mine
>>553125921you will still hate your ife when doing the corner
>>553127114they hate poo2 in general.
>>553114545>>553126178streamer client i get a spymaster like once every 20 runs
>>553054431is this sfw?
>>553128385Mukbang happening live
somebody give me a tablet setup that I can just throw on any map as I path towards deadly bosses and citadels
>>553129739just use one: grand project
>>553126178get mogged, kid
>>553130005>architect in the wrong spot
>>553130132not building your temple, i am building something more casual but still about 70-80% of the temple you're building. difference is, i'll just use this temple to get temporalis, and at this speed i'll have it before your temple is finished.
>>553127438past week 3 is reserved for genuine retards
>building temples this lateloooool the top players are printing over 1000d/hryou can never catch up
How do you level up spymasters btw? Let's say I have a chain with a few spymasters and only 2 of them are level 3, 2 of them are level 2 (from medallion) and 2 are level 1. Is it over and I can't level up them all?
>>553130398why would anyone need to catch up to anyone else? comparison is the thief of joy, as they say, and i don't appreciate thievery.
>>553130263I had a full casual temple, and the 70-80% thing is a straight up lie. It's more like 20-30%.
>>553130496i'd answer you but i don't help out tr/a/nnies>>553130718well as you can see by the russian chain all the way to the top and on the right side, it's not fully casual, but a mix.
>>553130496You have to place a lonely spymaster, without garrisons attached to it. Then you run into that before you enter one of the spy rooms in your snake. When you enter the room the spymaster will already be dead, because one of the other ones killed it and leveled up. You can lock the lonely spymaster AFTER he has been killed to keep the room to do it again.
>>553129795and when I'm not on a tower?
>>553130940you just blitz to boss and leave, no tablets neededyou're almost always on a tower anyway
>>553056685It's new. It also shows player weapon dps
>>553129739I always use Irrad and Abyss, the last slot is flexible, either I'm hunting something from a specific mechanic or empowered bosses is fine.
>>553130496i look like this
>>553130901>without garrisons attached to it>Then you run into that before you enter one of the spy rooms in your snake.So it's never too late to level up spymasters even if I have level 1s and 2s (from medallion) in my chain...A couple of questions.So there are 2 conditions - no garrisons attached and you should run it first. What if it's attached to some other room but not garrison? Also does a lonely spymaster level up only one other spymaster not multiple right?
>>553131293easy answer: it needs to be able to get destabilized (disappear) when you run your temple. afterwards you run it, before closing, you can lock it to keep it around.
we are all waiting for the TalkativeTri Second Wind league btw
>timmy be like "i'm gonna do temple too!"
>second wind>it's just a fart joke
>>55313151815 hours, sisters. I'm so excited.
>>553131534tubgun is playing solo so pretty much anyone can catch up to him if he really wants to
>>553131534He has insanely bad luck, you usually drop 1 mirror for every 2-3k divs, yet he hasnt gotten one.
Fubgun's nutemple (99% optimized) has a record of 90 raw div drops. His character obviously has a plenty of rarity too.
>>553131787thanks grindniggergame
>>553131780let's be honest, not everyone can- he plays an absurd amount of time- he is very very efficient at playing, as in low time wasted, over long periodshe is probably on speed
why the fuck did they ban the ritual rerollers if they allow this
>>553132159retention
>>553132123groupcuck drops 3x as much loot so you can play for 4 hours a day and farm faster than him. hes playing on ethical hard mode
>>553132159more people are doing this, and they can't just always say "NONONO NO FUN IN MY GAME!"
>>553132159the answer is always whether it hurts RMT
temple needs like a 95% loot nerf and I'm being generousthat shit is poisoning the entire game
>>553132238do you know how hard it is to get together a band of 5 autists and wrangle them for 4 hours a day?
>>553132340>i want my mechanic to reward no itemsthen who would bother doing temple, the literal league mechanic?
>>553132340You need to spend dozens of hours to optimize your temple, if it's not significantly more profitable that maps at the high end nobody will bother with it. A 95% nerf is too much, but like 60% would be reasonable.
>>553132418yes, the answer is not veryyou pay them 5d per run to follow you and suddenly they start doing a very good job at it
>>553132590>>553132564don't care 96% nerf now
>>553132238>ethical hard modeNothing ethical about him, he's a cheater who should be banned.
Temple is literally what people wanted: a giga delayed gratification mechanic. All the newfags complained about poe1 being so instant gratification, and how people can't take delayed gratification and now that we got it they throw a fit.
post ending in 0 decides what build I play in pohx's league
>a league mechanic printing thousands of divines per player per hour is perfectly fine>yes I know it's 400ex to 1d it's perfectly fine, the economy should be like this every league
I'm just really tired of newfags having strong opinions on things. Sanctum allowed people to print 100+div on DAY ONE for several years and it didn't hurt the game. Liquidity is GOOD it enables crafting, provides those crafted items to the market and it also makes all other farms more profitable. Shitters are begging for poverty leagues, just because they are too dumb to engage with mechanics. Newsflash, if you would have you way, and loot was giganerfed you casuals and dadgamers would be the biggest losers, because you would be priced out of everything. Enjoy your affordable headhunters and stop crying, or alternatively learn to play the fucking game.
>>553132994it would be at like 1000 ex : 1 div without the temple retardbro
>>553133096that's weird 0.3 didn't have 1000/1
>>553133031based
>>553133031trvke
Right now temple only gives good value (better then juicy smart mapping like hunting powerful bosses for supports or abysses for omens etc.) when it's at least 3/4 done. So you actually play a faggot dogshit building simulator with barely any payoff. And to play it efficiently you have to basically skip maps, at least all other mechanics on maps to save time.I suggest buffing early temple when you have less than X amount of rooms. And then gradually implement harsher and harsher diminishing returns as it gets bigger, kinda like it's now but more strict.So that in the endgame it doesn't completely fucking overshadows all other league mechanics combined. Should still be the best one if you have a finished good temple.
>>553133218it was 1.1k actually. sit down tourist.https://poe.ninja/poe2/economy/abyss/currency
all I want is a simple loot/crafting mechanic just like keepers.>press a button>kill a bunch of free rare mobs>collect loot + crafting mats>get a deterministic crafting attempt every few hoursnow THIS is kino
>>553133218it peaked at 2300 retardbro.
>>553133541>>553133426>look at my RMT siteno?
>>553133630
>>553133218brother there is no currency sinkuntil they add something the economy is going to be fucked by week 3 everytime
>>553133724>trust me dood these numbers are very realno thanks, post a real source next time
>>553132991eblade vaal eq
>>553133747what does the economy is fucked actually mean? you can exchange things for currency and currency for things wtf else is needed?
i was actually just pretending to be retarded xD
YOU WILL OWN NOTHINGAND YOU WILL BE HAPPY
>>553134116this is unironically a good idea. imagine being able to rent out your gear to poor people or ggg being able to rent out mtx
guys can you put some more money into Tri's Second Wind private league please, i can't get a spot :(
Map device will require 3divines to operate for one hour. You vill own nothing.
>>553134385got you covered, bro
>>553134385Just play PoE1 private league instead lil broStarts the same time. https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/Pohx+Keepers+Restart
>>553132991void sphere of rending pathfinder
>>553132991rf scion
>no challenge rewardsShan't be playing Poox league.
>>553134513>less then 10k playersuhhh, no thanks anon i'd like to have atleast a bit of an economy to interact with :)
>>553134676you can still earn the 40/40 keepers rewards, you don't have them yet because you're a shitter anyway
>>553133031this guy gets it
>wakes up, checks /poeg/ >shit brake at work, chesk /poeg/, same thread>about to masturbate and go to bed, checks /poeg/ first, same fucking threadgrim
>>553132991lightning trap of sparking assassin
>>553133031a headhunter is literally 2 omens of whittling and niggers are complaining that they are "falling behind"
>>553134895I'm gonna cum inside you.
>>553133379Lock temple crystals behind map bosses. Each completed mechanic on the map awards 2 crystals once you beat the boss. There, fixed the game.
>>553135042what is that supposed to accomplish besides making temple setup even slower?
>>553135231the anon you replied to doesn't wanna nerf temple or make the game better.he just dislikes temple and wants it worse to do for everyone else so he doesn't get this much fomo.
>>553135231>run map with 3 tablets >breach2 points>abyss2 points>expedition2 points>random wisp or rogue exile 2 points>kill all rares2 points>all checkpoints 2 points>kill map boss2 points >get 14 points per map How's that slower?
>>553133031>Comparing PoE 1 economics with literally dozens of league content and even more farming strategies to PoE 2 ecnomics with only 5 - abyss, mapping (lol), temple, sekhema and utimatum You are really really retarded
>>553133905>>553134537>>553134651>>553134949these are good builds, 0 is going to end up being unplayably bad
>>553135559>interacting with breach, expedition, wisps
>>553135661Finally a high IQ post
>>553135661poe1 has a simple yet effective divine sink: the crafting bench.poo2 has no such sink, divines just keep coming in and then staying there forever.
divine sink = recombinate into perfect divines
gonna watch me some dslily babecock cumpilation
>>553135661TRINVKE
>>553132991firestorm (any flavour)
can you get multiple against the darkness in one run if you use multiple vases?
>>553135996the same thing happens in poe1, you divine your best items.poo2 has way less of those btw. the game needs a divine (and exalt) sink
>>553135897Love it when you shitters out yourselves. The crafting bench is insignificant as a sink compared to diving.
>>553136149made one myself with some of her youtube conten. can upload on erome or xhamster if you like
>>553136050okay, I can do that
>>553136209>he has never crafted a good item in poe1>talks about "outing oneself"
>>553136246have funi might do it aswell, ive been thinking about firestorm of meteors assassin
>>553136269Prefixes/suffixes can't be changed pales in comparison to hitting a 1/10k div roll.
>>553136337it's all chieftains on poe ninja, looks like a budget friendly build too
>>553136209nigger what
>>553136459>implying a lot of items get divine rolled in either gameyou do it on a couple items on poe1 in the current league, and i did it on 1 item in poo2 in total.most dadgamers never right click a divine orb once in their career. the mass of players does a couple quick metacrafts in 1, no such thing in 2
>>553136209>The crafting bench is insignificant as a sinkHoly shitter
>>553136459on a perfect mirror item sureeverything else is reasonably cheap to divine if it has a crafted mod
i wonder what percentage of people have used a divine in poe1 (since the swap) versus the percentage of people that have used a divine in poe2
>>553136670Skill issue.
>>553109561The best item in the game!?
>>553137212In terms of what? Using it "raw" or does benchcrafting count?
>>553137419just right click a divine and left click it on an item, not crafting bench
>>553132021>3709 exalts>10k divines >"divines are worth more tho"
>>553137596he exalts off the filter
>>553137596He just doesn't pick up the lowest tier of Exalts.
>>553137596Divines are just better, m'kay?
>>553137475probably the same amount since it has the same effect
>>553137596Anon it lists what he picked up.
COMPLETE TRADIE BRAINROT
>>553138112you're not a better person for self-flagelating and humiliating yourself in ssf
>drop 1 div>get ONE THOUSAND EXALTS>spend five minutes spamming exalts on my collection of okay bases>sell the results for ten divs
>>553138278yes you are
>>553138295Dirty exploiter.
>>553138295HOLY FUUUAARKKK A NEW 0.5d/hr STRAT???
>>553136846One mirror items burns more div than 10k average players do with meta crafting and there's hundreds of them.
>>553138316retard
I like the classes and class mechanics of poe2, but the campaign feels absolute ass compared to poe1 and I miss lab. I don't know how to copy tbqh
>ulf drops an instant earthquake titan build with hotg>check it out>2k life with giants blood, pitiful aoe, expensivefuck me melee (hammers) got fucking shafted. i'll stick with my ez mode coc monk build with 8k es lel
>Werewolf>Has full kit minus a useful buff by level 21 (Gem level 7 for Cross Slash for raking ice balls into big mobs to kill them), has a servicable leveling kit prior to that>Wyvern>Has full kit by level 31 (Gem level 9 for Oil Barrage), but can clear and kill big mobs reliably as early as 14>Bear>Doesn't get a good clear skill until 41 (FORTY ONE) and doesn't get a single useful (in any significant way for leveling at least) skill between levels 1 and 41, a titanic 40 level gapWhat were they fucking thinking, Jesus.
>>553138580gem system in poo2 is a complete downgrade from 1, game is unplayable until they rework it fully
SSF is good in PoE2 because the system hasn't gotten hyperbloated with sheer content variety and juicing gimmicks.Drops haven't been heavily mutilated the same way they are in PoE1 as well.And leveling is actually enjoyable (to a degree far more than PoE1).
>>553138741>leveling is actually enjoyableWhy is it more enjoyable in PoE2?
>>553138889he has a humiliation kink
poe2 is unironically pretty good and enjoyable. its just that going through the campaign is fucking miserable. once they add a bit more endgame, poe2 could seriously be a contender for better than 1
Didja notice it takes us about 50% longer to finish a thread when its OP is dogshit?
>>553138741>hyperbloated with sheer content varietyWill never understand this complaint since pretty much all mechanics save for a couple can be suppressed.
>>553139271its because people want to enjoy the threads more. so they shitpost less about random shit.
>>553139271>doomers are making the community worse yeah, no shit
I agree I fucking hate the campaign. Every act should be the size-legnth of act1, act2 MAX. This includes the zone layouts.>open map>it's a subhuman faggot maze with dozens of dead ends>it's also so big only like 1/3 of it fits on your screen
>>553139293>can be suppressedYou still gotta go get the loot from them to flesh out your build to do content.>You can do everything on like 5C of gear thoNot everyone wants to start with 1 of 6 approved builds and then dump half their net worth on a respec. Admittedly, Gold Respec helped a lot in that regard at least.
>>553139430>the issue isn't that doomers are right, the issue is that doomers existthis was not an issue in the pre poo2 era
>>553139829good morning saar!
>>553139764Doomers can't be right because they never make any substantive claims. Virtually all doomposts are either low IQ shitposts or complaints about being filtered.
>>553140032>Doomers can't be right because they never make any substantive claimsthis claim substantive enough for you? poo2 is attracting less and less players, and at this rate will have sub poe1 launches before 1.0
>>553126715not a poop1 or poop2 apologist but ggg literally does not give a single fuck about retention. they make all their money on league start with goypacks and stash tabs sale.if you want to hurt jonatroon don't log in at launch, why do you think he's so desperate with free weekends, he has to artificially pump those numbers up or else it will look really bad on the game.
I never take anyone who can't spell "PoE2" correctly seriously and instantly write them all off as shitposters.There's no reason to interact with buffoons whose first instinct is name calling when trying to prove a point.
>>553140150It's only 89-90k today btw.
>>553140458Upvoted, redditor.
>>553140428they make less and less money on leaguestart in poo2 because the amount of content that comes out is atrociously low, the amount of returning players is atrociously low and they only make something good/fun when they make a big mistake.
>>553140458>poo posting actually bothers someonenot sure what to say
>>553140150D4 has more players than PoE2, does that make it a better game? PoE2 attracting a bunch of fucking normalfags who only played the game because it was popular, they should get filtered.
>>553140492>completely ignoring the point that is being madelet me spell it out for you hopetroon: the red line points down hard, -300k peak numbers in a year only.
>no divine "sink" (le cool reddit word)>Divine Orb can be used for randomizing numeric values of modifiers on items.Are redditors not aware that you can use divine orbs on items?
>>553140778>bringing up d4bad unpromptedfaggot, nobody was talking about d4, but i'll answer you: yes d4 is currently a better game than poo2, and it is beating poo2 on the financial side as well.
>>553140734It doesn't particularly bother me.I just view the posts containing such content as worthless drivel.Annoy would be a more appropriate word.At any rate, obviously it annoys someone or they would've stopped doing it.Dramatards only do shit for attention.
>>553140926Do you think in general that things that are more popular are automatically better?
>>553140932poo is just a funny word anon
>>553141014>popularity is not a huge indicator for qualityhow much are they paying you to shill their game here, ranjeed?
>>553140779>Not understanding the pointThe point is its worse. It's not 100k+ anymore. We're below that and it's bleeding like 3-5k players each day.
>popularitydiablo 4 is more popular than poe (1) though
>>553141370it is and thats for a good reason. its a beatiful game crafted by one of the best developers in the industry
Popularity is an indicator of quality up to a certain point.If it meets a certain minimum standard among the LCD of a group of people, then it has the potential to become popular.If it is below that minimum standard, it is viewed as shit, niche, or everyone's newish favorite.. "slop."Quality beyond minimum requirements is not indicated by popularity. A game can be the best thing ever or merely "a fun romp with friends" and rack up millions of players just the same.
>>553141370yup, but poe1 is way more complex than d4 as well, that alone makes a lot of people not play it.poo2 and d4 have about the same level of complexity, so not a factor here.also, poe1 aims at another audience than d4, whereas poo2 aims at the exactly same audience.
I love how actual posts about the game in the past like hour have been totally ignored and all anyone can say is that (everyone else) is too busy talking about drama, low quality posts, and shit instead of the game.
>>553141568>>553141338>>553141249>>553141083Dilate brown tranny.
why did they design temple so backwards? it is very hard to start but once you got 6 or so spymasters it becomes really hard to fail, but before that point 1-2 unlucky runs and you lose so much progress
>>553141706>About the gameYou mean retards that are about to fuck up their temple and will complain about it in this thread?
>>553141568>>553141338>>553141249>>553141083
>>553141794They didn't design it that way.It ended up that way by complete accident.They designed it to have overall bad payouts (also assuming people wouldn't do chains because none of their testers did so to any major extent because their testers don't give a shit), undertuned it, buffed it to earn good boy points with their community, accidentally overdid it, then applied a panic bandaid.TL;DR: GGG doesn't design, they just throw darts at a board and hope for the best.
>>553141760>>553141983retard
>>553141270>>popularity is not a huge indicator for qualityI can't think of a single thing off the top of my head where the most popular thing isn't dogshit. >most popular foodmcd slop>most popular music nigger trash>most popular music capeshit>most popular drink brainrot soda>most popular gamesshit for normalfags with 0 soul>most popular websitespeak cancer>most popular furnitureikea trash>most popular animeshonenshit>most popular clothesoverpriced h&m shit made by pakis>most popular phoneoverprices piece of shit>most popular OSterrible AI pajeet slop>most popular porncuck shit>most popular board on 4chanrussian psyop propagandaI could go on and on. Most people are retards, and if something appeals to most people it's most likely shit.
>>553142113life must suck when you're a contrarian, i am sorry for you
>>553141849Or perhaps I dunno...>>553138594>Talisman skills hilariously biased towards Wyvern>>553138581>Maces bad>>553136093>Loot drop questionAlso the answer to this one is no. The loot drop mod is binary, so you'd just be buffing Zarokh with no upside.>>553133528General 1 good 2 bad post, but framed politely.
>>553142113If you buy mcdonalds double cheeseburgers on the app and throw away the bread they are one of the cheapest sources of protein you can get outside of home cooking.
>>553141983Literally me right now, I'm not even joking.
>>553142221I'm living a richer, more fulfilling life than you normalfag.
the ABSOLUTE STATE of poopoog
>>553142359by hating anything that is popular not because it's bad but because it's popular? i doubt that, but you do youyou should try enjoying things for a change
>>553142523For once, I'm with the retard poster.
>>553142523Can't help but notice you didn't say I was wrong though.
>he is so mad he replied to me twice
>>553142278You trust that whatever those things are, is protein?
>>553142662It could be 2 different anons
>>553142707you know it's not
>>553142271>Maces badyep. no ES, less hp because giants blood (giants have less health than regular people, especially a TITAN, you know), shit damage>www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgXP-6Fu7tci want to like it, but warrior/maces are just so dogshit compared to the insane stuff other builds can do (coc/comet is the outlier). on my whirlwind monk i have over 9k es and screen clear for days
>>553142705There are plenty of sources they are 100% beef zero fillers. Cry, shit your pants, whatever I don't care. Pick one apart yourself, you can't tell the difference between it and any ground beef you buy at the store. If you can prove it's not beef you can probably win a ton of money in court, go ahead prove me wrong I would love to see it.
>>553142505It's sad that you can't engage with this any level and have to fall back onto circular logic "you hate it because it's popular". I'm living a rather happy life, all things considered. You're ITT malding over PoE2 daily.
>retardcuck got nuked>ALL POSTSIT WORKEDLMAOOOOOOO
>>553142840and you're here with me, seething over my hate for poo2.i'd say you're miserable, partially thanks to me. that makes my life pretty good.
>make league with no loot>/poog/ cries>make league with a lot of loot>/poog/ cries
>>553141370>adjective: popular>1. liked, admired, or enjoyed by many people or by a particular person or group.i don't mean to sound like a dick but i don't think that really applies to diablo 4.
>>553142953retard
>>553142839>If you can prove it's not beef you can probably win a ton of money in court, go ahead prove me wrong I would love to see it.Theoretically, how much money would this be? Enough to buy out GGG?
>>553142953very based
>>553050154>Second Wind Fate of the Vaal>Players:13,634 / 13,700 (+100 Pending Payment)>Pohx Keepers Restart>Players:9,543 / 10,010
>>553142221life must suck when you're an indian
desu retard feels incredible to type on a keyboard
>>553142959Happy people don't feel the need to make others feel worse. You're a sad cuck. Also PoE2 will be around for years, you made up a culture war and picked the losing site.
>using the r-word gets you autobannednice
>>553143073Aboot three fiddy at least.
>>553143308weird how you, a happy person, are here, trying to make me feel worse. ironic isn't it?
>>553050154>havnt come to this sub at all since abyssal since im not playing build a bear workshop fag league>i keep seeing poe2g on catalog>the op image seems the same for the past 2 weeksis someone just mad a john or some shit? or mad at poe2?
>>553143427That's just normal for /vg/.
>>553143427It's one shitposter who has been rushing out new thread with identical image repeatedly because he knows people don't like it.Dramatards have been an insufferable staple of this thread outpopulating real players for years now.
>>553143426r-word
>>553143283trvke
>>553143427>is someone just mad a john or some shit? or mad at poe2?That's a circle.
>>553142953Based anti-brownoid reporter>all these (Dead) postThis tranny is fucking mental unironically>and a flaming SSF subhuman>>553116284Holy shit...
>>553143427>is someone just mad a johnyes
>>553143427it is indeed "some shit."
the retardposter is truly posting retard a lot, just scrolled through the thread and it's crazy
>>553143843I think they got hit for spam, yeah.
>>553143927>theyplease don't
>check the archive>op image has only been used repeatedly in the past four days.so he's wrong, it's not two weeks.
>newfags don't know about tubpostinggrim
Tubposters, animeposters, frogposters, and gogposters are the only ones making these threads on dead nigger games viable.
>>553144269ack, you got me good
>play non meta build expecting it to be shit>finally reach the skill gem tier required to use it>it's shitidk what I was thinking. poo2 sucks so much dick if you want to try something else besides meta shit.
>>553144542r-tard
>>553144269but why does this game attract such massive amounts of shitposting?
>>553144676because it has been overpromised so hard and underdelivered even worse - it's years late, ages in development, has none of the content from their first (hit) game, and lots of people can't cope with having been captured by the hypetrain to tub station
>>553144676probably because talking about builds is kind of a pain in the ass
Why collect 17,000 divine orbs if not to RMT them?
How is blasphemy's radius set? It is presence?
>>553144889regular aoe scaling
>>553144848Tubgun is a mazed cuckold that unironically said>dropping a mirror is better than virtually anything in the world
>>553144889poe2 players can't read
>>553144676PoE has always been the king of "doompost if shit, hopepost if kino" game commentary. Right now we're in the doomer meta because PoE 1 has been abandoned and PoE 2 is a massive pile of shit under Jonathan's mismanagement. If they announce new endgames for PoE 1 and PoE 2 in their respective next leagues we'll enter a hopesissy cycle for a while and the meta will be to dunk on doomers.
god i am in love
>>553145226both 3.27 and 0.4 had new endgames promised and weren't delivered on btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtQyrQdqQT0
>>553145012So + area of effect on tree increases it?
I'm weak, please forgive me. The tub just isn't full enough for me.
>>553145441this guy is a nobody and his version is kinda trash, sorry
>>553144676a lot of people like the game the higher the number of players the higher the % of shitposting goes up
>>553145534Who should i watch then
>>553145053Well it has the aoe + aura tag and the wiki states:>Auras are skills that apply buffs to Allies within a radius, or debuffs to enemies within your Presence radius.How am I supposed to make sense of this shit?
>>553145525>pre-ordering a video gameholy s o y
>>553145807It has +1 to base, your base, which is Presence, is 4m, so it's 5m. Also works with AOE mods.
>>553145525paladin is fun to play but you'll run out of things to do after 3-4 days if you play a moderate amount of hours per day.once d4 gets end game it's unironically over for jonatroon's overflowing tub.
>>553144542TRVKE
>>553145525retard
>>553145807you are actually goddamn retardedcurses have a curse radius on them, and blasphemy is that +1 meter
>>553145517yes, if it effects your curse aoe it works with blasphemy
>>553145441>has lots of extra spirit>doesn't add blinkwhat a goddamn shitter
why is his favorite word the r-word?
>>553146012I wasn't planning on playing until the expansion comes out. Just had some leftover battlenet money figured might as well. My friend is a big paladin fan so we'll probably play together.
>>553145983>it's presence radius>source: i came up with it
My tub overfloweth
>once d4 gets end game
tell me about the tub
>>553146969It's forbidden knowledge
>>553146969so you wanna know about the tub?
>>553146302he is one and projecting, plain and simple.
>>553145525Why the fuck did you pre-order?
>>553147049It's chocolate
>>553147026>>553147049I'm ready to achieve gnosis
>>553145320that's a man
The "PoE2 tub meme" refers to the community's reaction to the December 2024 early access release of Path of Exile 2, specifically the "Overflow" mechanic where resources like life can exceed their normal caps, leading to jokes about characters being "overflowing" with power, often humorously depicted in tubs or containers, representing absurdly high stats or overflowing health bars, playing on the game's massive complexity and power creep. What it's about:Overflow Mechanic: A new system in PoE2 allowing resources (Life, Energy Shield) to go above their normal limits (up to double) when "overflowed," creating super-charged stats.Meme Origin: Players joke about characters filling up so much with health/energy they're overflowing a small bathtub or container, illustrating ridiculous power levels.Context: The meme emerged alongside the paid early access launch in late 2024, as players explored new mechanics and potential for massive builds. In short: It's a visual gag about absurdly high stats in Path of Exile 2, using the "Overflow" mechanic as the source of the joke.
>>553146012>once d4 gets end game
I only just started playing this league yesterday, how the hell am I ever going to buy upgrades when everything that I need to even get my build going is at least 50 divs each?
>>553147516REAL 0.4 starts tomorrow lil brohttps://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/Second+Wind+Fate+of+the+VaalJoin while you still can
>>553147516buy worse items, work your way up
>>553147623>buy worse items, work your way upAre you retarded?
>>553147742what
one MILLION divine orbs
>>553147608You don't have enough points to fund the private league.
>>553147742Cute act 5 DPS tooltips
>>553148061how do you get to act 5
>>553148020brokeboy
>>553147742retard
>>553148020Joining is free. Then you wait till people fund more player slot so your ass gets transferred from waitlist to members. That's because you're late.
why is cast on crit schizoing
>>553148994retard
>>553149187>>553148256
>>553148994You don't have enough intelligence (in-game and in real life), lil gup
>>553149516>>553149516>>553149516next tub
>>553149552Too early, you're brown.
>>553147278Hehe, so am I
I remember reading for PoE1 that as the league progresses, the drop rates for global drops become lesser compared to league start because the system is weighted towards creating the economy (ie. someone has to be the first person to loot a divine or mirror, so the economy can function) but as the league progresses the number of rare global drops can taper off as these items exist plentifully enough in the economy (they just belong to someone else). Does anyone have info on this?
>>553136209
