New warbond when edition>Previous>>552946882>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to spread Managed Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.net>MAJOR NEWSDec 02 Python Commandos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPp9ZCgrP8Dec 04 Liberate the Magma Worlds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLX9solUlHgDec 18 Killzone Warbond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O827A3v80GoDec 18 Festival of Reckoning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FDLdCtEf1M>LATEST PATCHESDec 02 1.005.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/491583942944621274Dec 05 1.005.001 (stratagem menu reload crash hotfix)
The more (you) play the game the more (you) realize you need nothing but the most basic weaponry to get shit done. If you can't do a diff 7 or above with the basic armor, weapons and strats you may be a shitter, desu.
brownest general on /vg/
Accursed shitterIn helldiver's garb, gleamingIn his heart, scheming
>>553088173
>>553078379>buffs>Flamethrower (damage sucks for a support weapon)yes>Eagle Smoke (smoke just needs to be useful)nah smoke is good right now>FRV (too easy to flip over)skill issue>OPS (cooldown slightly too long)its fine>Orbital EMS (cooldown sucks for what it does)it wont fix it, it needs double radius>Orbital Smoke (cooldown is way too fucking long, and smoke is worthless)smoke is good, but yeah shorter cooldown i can agree with>Grenadier Battlement (needs to be able to rotate 360 degrees)nah, its strong right now, youre bad at positioning your stratagems>All mines except Gas Mines (self-explanatory)so that clueless retards use them more blocking the entire objective? no thanks>Mortar Sentry (needs better targeting AI so it doesn't teamkill all the time)skill issue>Sterilizer (needs to leave gas clouds)i agree with this>Flame Sentry (dunno, make the flames do more damage)its good as it is, try some crowd control>One True Flag (completely overhaul it into something useful)you need more?>De-Escalator (stronger stun and crowd control, less damage, speed loader)ok>Guard Dog K-9 (better AI so it doesn't teamkill)literally dont face teammates, skill issue>Laser Sentry (longer duration, improved heatsink)ok>NEAT (cooldown is way too fucking long)skill issue, lower the difficulty>Solo Silo (the remote shouldn't take up the support weapon slot)it absolutely should, you're bad at timing your stratagems
>>553078379>nerfs>Orbital Napalm (reduce the explosive radius so it doesn't teamkill all the time)nah, it needs a cooldown nerf though>Eagle Strafing Run (reduce the armor pen so it can't kill heavies as easily)nah strafe is fine>Supply Pack (make it give the wearer less supplies)nah supply pack is fine, just fix the drop glitch>Shield Pack (it should take less damage to break, maybe also increase the radius slightly)what are you smoking, it's already pretty weak, the only reason you take it is to be immune to slows>Gun Dog (reduce magazines back to 6 so it can actually run out of ammo)nah its fine as it is>AT Emplacement (reduce the ammo count or turn speed)it needs a buff actually, now that the bastion tank was confirmed which is basically the ATE but mobile
>>553088493>literally dont face teammates, skill issueThats not how it works.
>Arrowhead makes weapon feel like shit on purpose so it feels good when you "master" it>The damage is already shit in case people figure out how to use itWhats this design philosophy called?
>>553088813literally name a weapon that fits this
>>553088876Sterilizer.Flamethrower.
>>553088202>honest and humbleit can drop a leviathan in a single go>>553088813money (we have a version of it that works in the warbond)
Grunt Fantasy nerf sisters, what is our respond?
>>553089215thats part of le funny satire.
>>553089215Reject the evidence of your eyes and ears
>>553089131I already saidStrafing run is belovedNo need to sell it
I only take mines and maybe a hmg or anti-tank emplacement to high value target missions randoms get mad but it effectively controls the field
>>553088813>Whats this design philosophy called?Swedish
>>553089004>lists the 2 most UNSKILLED "hold M1" weapons in the entire game>when you master itso that's the first second you fire them in the game?
>>553089350>Moves the goalpostI accept your concession.
>>553089432explain the goalpost moving
'mastering' the flamethrower just means using a warp pack and inflammable armor by the way, two things you have to pay for
>>553089536>Name a weapon thats like this>"NO, THAT DOESNT COUNT"
>>553088876Epoch
>>553089680Epeen
>>553089680yeah, arguably you're correct. when using the epoch optimally, it still can't 1-shot hulks, and the damage is generally lackluster, and the AoE is small.i agree. >>553089591you are stupid beyond measure, be glad that other anons who are smarter than you can prove your claim.
>>553090032>you are stupid beyond measure, be glad that other anons who are smarter than you can prove your claim.I already accepted your concession, you dont need to send in another.
>>553090032>be glad that other anons who are smarter than you can prove your claim.So you literally said "Yeah, youre right and you raped me but you lost actually because Im emotional."This is the anon calling other people stupid, btw.
>>553090072whatever makes you tell yourself that your ego wasnt shattered, retardo
>>553090158>Projecting
>>553090150you're just projecting your emotional outburst onto the guy who made you madwhy else would you reply to the same post twice?
>>553090032>it still can't 1-shot hulksoh it can. you need to hit the eye.too bad it has the spread of a pre-buff reprimand, so even the ultimate epoch master can't reliably hit the eye because your accuracy is up to a diceroll
>>553090249>he doesn't know what a concession means>he doesn't know what projecting means>he doesn't know what moving the goalposts meansany more buzzwords you got there buddy?
>>553090254>Calls people dumb>"Yeah, youre right but I am very emotional so I cant accept it">"By the way, youre the one having an emotional outburst, not me"
>>553090329>it has the spread of a pre-buff reprimandit doesn't, it's fully accurate since the buff.hitting the eye is still ass though, i've only seen like 2 guys use it on hulks effectively in my time playing
>>553090343>>553090343>Asks for a weapon>Gets provided two>"YEAH BUT THOSE ARE BRAINLESS!!!">Gets dismissed because he moved the goalpost>Starts spamming insults >"YOURE THE ONE PROJECTING THOUGH"Sure thing, lil guy. Whatever helps you farm izzat
>>553090365>i'm not mad, you are. here's why you're mad and i'm the calmest guy on earth right now and i'm so not mad, i am very relaxed and calm and you are very mad and its funny because i made you mad haha troled!
>>553090486Yes, thats what you did. Im glad youre coming to terms with how you are perceived by others.
>>553090461the more posts you make trying to defend yourself the more pathetic you look
>>553090420>it doesn't, it's fully accurate since the buff.https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/PLAS-45_EpochSpread is 30, down from the 150 it had at launch. For comparison the Reprimand used to have 40, so the epoch is a bit more accurate. But its still inaccurate for a AT weapon that needs to hit weakpoints for quick kills.
>the more posts you make trying to defend yourself the more pathetic you look
>>553090569>No argumentYou lost again
>>553090587works for me in-gamesorry i'm not a spreadsheet gamer
>>553090631>Asks me to provide examples>He gets them>Gets extremely defensive and hostile out of fucking nowhereReminds me of a Kiwi farm user posting about how he mildly disagreed with an Indian and his Izzat was so damaged he killed himself to prevent losing any more izzat.
>>553090631im not sure whats going on here but this made me lol so you won the debateEDIT: you're both retarded asf cuh
>i got btfo so hard i must defend myself from my phone and my pc at the same time
Does blocking the host still crash the lobby? Asking for a friend.
>>553090770dude that got fixed after like three days
>>553090757>"there cant possibly be two people who think Im a retard!"-200 Izzat
>>553090770no it just kicks you out
you can tell a poster is ind*an because they capitalize i***t.
>>553090931I can tell youre indian because you care about how Izzat is spelled
Why the fuck did this dude start crashing out over someone calling the flamethrower and sterilizer shit?
You can tell a poster is brown because they act like white people who spend all day seething about brown people interacting with white people.
>>553091156this place is no better than the-armory on the helldivers discord, only difference is, there you'll see the furry and trans profiles of the people that hold retarded opinions on the game
>>553091156he crashed out because he realized he was retarded after another anon brought up the epoch
>>553091156Because I guess the malder thinks the throwers need skill to use?
>>553091248Is it true they have a pregnant man emoji?
>>553091156I can't think of a way to defend the fucking Sterilizer. That thing is complete trash in every possible scenario.
what is a primary, secondary, grenade or stratagem that is criminally slept on?
>>553091516base liberatorhalo pistolpyrotech nadeHMG emplacement
>>553089215
>>553091631Woah, so the game tells me what enemies I can expect to fight, right? How could I pick the most fitting stratagems for the mission if I don't know what I'm going up against?
>>553091631The cuck throne has no weaknesses.
ScytheRedeemerPineappleAutocannon (90% of /hdg/ thinks it's boring)
>>553092246>list the slept-on weapons>popular primary>ok>genuinely bad grenade>one of the most popular stratagemsyou didn't understand the assignment
>>553091631>best fit the mission and squad compositionRR to 1 shot heavies it is>b-b-b-but it's a crut-ACKSorry tranny but read your picture again
>>553092246>Pineapple
If the Illuminate and their bioengineering capabilities are clearly based on the Combine, when are we getting the full roster of Illuminate gunships and Hunters?They could do with a loitering air unit which the bugs and bots all now have, and a fast ground unit, like the Stalker but ranged
>>553092846no it isn't based on the combine you zoomerit's based on the protoss from starcraft
>>553092846The illuminate really should lean more on their biotech. In fact they should make illuminate hounds
>>553092846halo sucks you retardit's clearly based on Star Fox Assault for the Nintendo Gaming Cube
>>553093110The nintendyo SHITCUBE
>>553093110But Valve didn't release the Gabecube yet
Acceptable crossover warbonds: Starship Troopers, Half-Life, Command & Conquer, Gears of War, Deep Rock Galactic, FEAR, XCOM.Goycattle bait crossover slopbonds: Warhammer, Star Wars, Fallout.
>>553095379>Deep Rockfuck no
>>553095379>Deep Rock Galacticdie in your sleep
>>553095379None of those are acceptable.
>>553095379DRG is actually good so keep this shit away from it
>>553095421>>553095630DRG is never getting a crossover because swedes don't want to acknowledge that the chad danes that prioritize player power fantasy made a better game
>>553095379>Terry Davisthis nigga killed himself lol, fucking loser
>>553095904>killed himselfYea just like Epstein, sheep.
Would be pretty cool to get an updated CG intro that involves all 3 factions.
Me and my wife's boyfriend have decided to stop playing this game until they nerf the warstrider.
>>553095379Goycattle bait crossover slopbonds: Warhammer, Star Wars, Fallout, Starship Troopers, Half-Life, Command & Conquer, Gears of War, Deep Rock Galactic, FEAR, XCOM, and literally everything else.
There's like 18 slopbonds now, plus the starter slopbond. How is a new player ever going to catch up? Are there any plans to start bundling them together?
>>553096779>1 less racist schizo on earthGood, based glowniggers
>>553097792>Command & ConquerNod aesthetic goes hard as fuck, it would probably be one of the few crossover warbonds I'd think about getting.>inb4 GDI trash
>>553097861Some of the newer bonds have similarly themed stuff as the old ones, they'll probably bundle the old ones with the newer ones of similar theme. At least, thats what a reasonable marketing person would do if they wanted to draw in new players and wasn't a clueless swede game dev.
Not excited for the new bot enemies because i know they'll get nerfed into the ground within a week of release.
>>553097861Pretty sure they said they'd never bundle warbonds
Not excited for the next warbond because it will be full of mediocre pre-nerfed shit with at most one good item in it, and there's a 50% chance that will get nerfed after release
>>553098850Pre-buffed*
Leaks show that the new super bot tank will die to one RR shot. HD2 is not a serious game
>>553097861It's essentially DLCs except you have to grind for what you've just bought. And that was the intention from the start.No sane person buying the game now would grind 14200 (and that's after removing the 300SC you get back) SC it takes to buy them.The intention is for the players to pay real money.So imagine someone paying 100+$ on all this shit only to find out they now have to play the game for hundreds of hours to actually be allowed to use the weapons they just paid for and wanted to have fun with.Besides, it's intentionally hidden inside the game, so any potential customer doesn't get spooked seeing 142$ worth of DLCs on the front page, and as an added bonus to Narrowhead they feel zero obligation to ever provide any discounts because I guess technically it's not a DLC or someshit.I guess their promises of "live service done right" meant the kikeness of live service with no live service content.
>>553099184Oh no! People have to play the game?! The horror! So sad...
>>553097861There's 180 bucks worth of battlepasses now, AH is starting to rival Paradox
>>553099273How does swede cum taste, nigger? Or do you prefer their boots?The point is that when I buy a weapon pack, I want to have fun playing the game with those weapons.Not play the game with weapons I don't really like just to earn a weapon... that I already paid real money for. And then finally after I earn that weapon and eventually want to switch it up after few hours and use another weapon I paid real money for, whoops I have to play dozen more hours with shit I'm already bored of to be allowed to use something fresh THAT I ALREADY PAID FOR.
>>553099486It takes Paradox multiple years to get to 180 dollars of DLC though.
>>553099184>>553099486>farm currency >Buy warbond>This is bad for some reasonAs opposed to other games where your only other option is to pay cash? Why are you faggots crying on the behalf of casuals who can't even be bothered to put time into the game? Swedish derangement syndrome is real.
>>553099686>uhm pay 180 bucks or grind for 300 hours just to catch up>this is great for some reasonI'm starting to think devs are really posting here
>>553099590>Entitled, impatient little nigger is upset that he has to play a few hours to unlock content he bought with a farmed currency.KYS, retard.
>>553099774Go play another game then, you whiny little woman. Go play deep rock galactic or minecraft.
>replies within 1 minuteEvilBosse is lurking this thread.
>>553099590>>553099774Brown coded posters
>>553099921hit a nerve, huh? which swigger are you? evilbosse? alexus?
>>553099686i don't really know what the point of debating it with this guy is considering that everyone who plays the game knows it's a bullshit complainti've never paid for a warbond, and in some cases have gotten enough SC for the next one before unlocking everything from the last one, just from playing normally plus a handful of D1 drops specifically to test the shit I just unlocked. and when you do fall short it's like, an hour of fucking around in the sandbox at most. or a dollar.but you know this, everyone knows this, and you already know he isn't convincing anybody with the "oh no i can't believe they expect you to play with everything you've just bought for a while before you buy more stuff" argument
>>553100070>Hit a nerve>Says the guy seething over easily obtained dlcOk
>>553100119He is an entitled, low iq shitskin. HD2 is literally the only game where you can get the dlc for free in a reasonable matter. Swedish derangement syndrome really is real.
Where's the fucking warbond trailer fucks sake I feel like I'm having a mental breakdown waiting I can't take much more of this
>>553100180>didn't hit a nerve>says the swigger the couldn't even formulate a coherent response at firstlive swigger meltiehow does it feel to kill the game with your anti-fun approach to everything?
>>553100369>Kill the gameThe game is doing fine though?? And i thought we were talking about dlc, why are you changing subjects? Did the Swedes traumatize you or something? You sound like you got raped or something.
>average $10 DLC >look inside>its useless cosmetics, a gimmick armor perk, a troll booster, and some mediocre weaponsYeah, thats what we in America call a ripoff.
>>553100539look at the swigger squirm and shit himself when pulled into the light
>tranime poster omitting the fact that the dlc is free.
>553100539>rape analogyConfirmed brown.
>tranny obsessed tourist thinking his worthless reddit opinion matters
>>553100672>incoherent shitskin babble.Kek
The Swedes really did traumatize the "people" here. I've never seen a group of anons so asshurt and mind broken like this in any other community. Really sad, but also really amusing.
>>553100635uhm you can just grind for 500 hours to get every DLC so it's actually freeThat Swigger defenders are down to the average f2p p2w defense for a 40 dollar game says it all
>>552717658>"Plasma is practically weightless!">Epoch, Punisher Plasma, Purifier and Loyalist all have bullet drop>Loyalist and Epoch have especially AGGREGIOUS bullet dropif this swedenigger wants realism put him on the ARMA dev team for a year and then deny covering therapy costs when he's put back of making this game
>>553100672>>553100748>>553100781>T.
>>553101026*put back in charge of making this gameFuck this tendency to say two sentences simultaneously
quick which planet do I defend
>>553100635*cheats in 10k SC*They deserve it.
>>553091156because its the resident tranny eternally hungry for (You)s.
>nerfed a week later
>>553101026I'm convinced AH just wants to satisfy their bizarre nerf fetish, and they only claim muh realism as a sort of scapegoat>we wanted the epoch to be good, but realism forced us to make it lose to shipping containers and chainlink fences!
>The Swedes really did traumatize the "people" here. I've never seen a group of anons so asshurt and mind broken like this in any other community. Really sad, but also really amusing.
any reason to not just pile in on Choepessa?
>>553101363Your script is old, bot. All dangerous enemies get nerfed into the ground. And why are you seething over the old stats of the epoch? They fixed it, so why are you still seething?
>>553101072Average shitterbow user fumbling around when a basic bitch Liberator would have easily killed everything
>another week long MO>another bot defense MO>another jeet brigade appearance >another 3-4 planet lossNo content till February
>>553101359>A lot of helldivers will dieLmao that shit will get nerfed the day it releases.
>found another mystical chinaman sc providerGreat honor and many blessings. Here's to the American century of humiliation.
>>553102308>+100 Social Credit
>>553102095>No content till Februaryoh shit, we got an optimist here somehow.
>>553102580Shit you're right. expecting the swedes to do anything for the game's anniversary is pretty retarded of me
>>553101594You'll never make it. Never make it. Never make it. Never make it, never. Don't you see you can't make it?
There's new dialogue on the destroyer, so at least that's something
>>553099808>>553100047>>553100310>No arguments, just a hypocritical ad hominem repeated ad neuseum>>553100119>I got it for free, either using patched out glitches, external tools like cheats or modifying the game files for SC arrows, or through grinding Diff 1-3 for less SC than minimum wage, or by playing the game for hundreds of hours since release - therefore nobody else is paying for their SC! Disregard Arrowhead straight up confirming vast majority of Warbond purchases are through real money purchase SCThe entire argument started with remark about new player experience, just because some people played this game since release it does not make it suddenly consumer friendly. In fact earnable SC exists specifically for useful idiots like you to barge into any discussion and go "umm... actually it's possible to earn that for free if you only spend the entire next month of your life NEETing and only playing this game".There is no proper argument for medals as a mechanic for paid warbonds, or at least I have not head one up until now. Nor have I heard a single sound argument from you guys so far.
>>553102580The trend is set. Nine slopbonds a year or the game is officially dead.
>can't even fail the story arc because all it does is just delay the star of peaceLmao, like we're not used to shit being delayed already
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244300742388/76561198065475540Lava planet bots 10
>>553102987Never forget.
OH MY SCIENCE THE LAVA PLANET IS BACK
>>553102962>Still seetheing over the only game that gives you the choice between buying or paying.>Complaining about user friendlinesWhy? Do you really want more casual shitters coming to the game? >I have to earn le medals? FUCK THIS IS SO UNFAIR!!!I don't get why this is an issue. If you enjoy the game then playing a few hours to unlock the new content shouldn't be an issue. Its almost like you don't enjoy the game and are just a mindless consumer that feels compelled to grind for no specific reason.
>MO ends>bugdivers immediately escape to Crimsica
Sex DLC when?
>>553103042canceling for now
>>553103949
>>553098685They also said that they'd never buff or nerf the Autocannon.
>>553103949you're late buddy
>>553103949NOW FUCKING NOW WE NEED IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>553104705Sex 2!?I guess sex really is great.
>Bot shitters cried so hard Arrowhead completely removed the platinum mission and fusion mission and replaced them with normal missions
>>553105191Oh, the platinum mission is gone?Good, that shit was literally bugged.
>BotGODS sent so many death threats to Arrowhead they were forced to remove the new garbage collection missions
>>553105191Surely it's not because we're defending the planets this time and not pulling off heists and conducting campaigns of conquest on occupied worlds... right?
>mobile refinery mission>get in the truck>drive to collection spots>defending the truck is pretty easy>get 2 of the collection spots>hive lord spawns directly under the truck and launches it into the stratosphere>mission failed>this happens every single time without fail
>>553105792Kill the hivelord first
>>553102962>The entire argument started with remark about new player experiencit takes like 20 hours to finish the first free warbond dipshit
Predictions for when the next free warbond will release?
>>553105792I skip every truck mission. I ain't baby sitting a fucking fat ass vehicle with no defenses. It's hard enough tard wrangling my rando teammates.
>>553102962>There is no proper argument for medals as a mechanic for paid warbonds, or at least I have not head one up until now. Nor have I heard a single sound argument from you guys so far.I'm sure you've heard plenty but here you are prefacing your post with a laundry list of projections so that you can dismiss literally anything. Despite the fact that you've come up with like three completely different scenarios to imagine about the anon you're responding to, representing anything from a new player to one who continues to play after hundreds of hours... and you can't see how that massively undermines the blanket response.It's pretty clear the issue isn't with other people.Obviously, if SC didn't exist, unlocking gear in-game with a resource like medals would be a completely normal and conventional progression mechanic.And since SC barely fucking matters as it is, mainly just serving to split up the unlockables into chunks you can focus on (while letting you choose which block of them is next) which is timed so that you're pretty much full up again by the time you're done, there's nothing to justify here. You are an entitled whining baby and if it wasn't this it'd be something else, wouldn't it?
REMINDER https://pastebin.com/G5wQDHkJ
>>553102095I don't care as long as we're off fucking Omicron.All according to keikakrömming.
>>553107562>he posts a list of 20% of issuesyou don't play the game.
>>553088450>"the game doesn't hardlock PCs, those people are just lying!">"okay so maybe it was hardlocking our own PCs regularly, but-"They can't be fucking serious
>>553106925>20 hoursAt what, dif2? Go sit in the corner, shitter.
>>553107653Well, suggest them, because this list is reports anon was requesting in previous threads.I'm not sure what the point was but it's a thousand times more objective and potentially useful compared to the usual aimless whining so I support it. Turn it into a comprehensive giga list and mail it to sweden, they'd probably actually appreciate it.
when is someone gonna post the name list again
>>553107812i'm not sure anon's "new player experience" strawman applies to sweats who jump onto SOSes at the 49th minute as they speedrun unlocking D10s but congrats on being proud of being better than imaginary newbie players i guess(PS I still haven't finished Helldivers Mobilize personally however despite having a bunch of other warbonds filled out thanks to all the free SC the game gives you. so i guess it actually takes hundreds of hours, take that nerd)
Where the fuck are they?
>>553107456Samefag here, Im trans btw, just in case that matters.
>>553108632Hiding in the files along with my fucking tank.
>>553108632>femborgs have milking apparatuses
>>553075386It happens so fucking often it's insane.>small dev sees an amount of success>immediately spends all of their earned money on an office (bonus points if it requires all of them to move to a more expensive part of their country)>development slows down due to this>they eventually swing to a corpocuck mindset because they can't afford their new office>if moving was required, at least half of the original devs are gone, too
>>553107927>https://pastebin.com/G5wQDHkJnow that i read through it, half of those are actually not even bugs, just some random complaint
>>553108531>tfw not on 'The List'
Lockheed Martin warbond when?
>>553107927Just trying to make a comprehensive list of glitches and gameplay inconsistencies. Anons can submit stuff they've encountered to be added to it.
>what no content does to a general
>>553107403Never. It's just going to be a drip-feed of shitty free weapons and occasionally stratagems we have to successfully complete several MOs in a row for.
Considering it doesn't take a backpack slot, is the quasar OP?
>>553109086nerfnigger and his discord raid this general regularly whether there's content or not
>>553109107This.
>>553109184No. Follow up shots take forever.
>>553109184The long cooldown and charge-up time makes it pretty bad in lots of situations. It's not always about ammo economy.
>>553109192And bufftroon seethe happens regardless of how much they get catered to.
Post YFW
>>553109438>>553109453The cooldown isn't that long.
>>553109184>terrible AoE>charge up shots so no quick reaction>cooldown after each shotnot even close to OP, and its not like the RR where u can just dive to skip part of the reload animation
>>553109491
>>553099062We need the resident meta trannies to defend shitty enemy design after all
>>553109654Why would it have an AoE?
If warbond SC/medal costs are so precisely tuned to hit 1k once you buy out the last one, therefore making SC purchases redundant, why are the majority of warbond purchases with bought SC?This game's progression is deliberately rigged to maximize engagement and SC purchases. The content is thin, the mechanics are shallow, and the game is hard-carried by the rigged galactic war.
>>553109864Play another game then.
>>553109749Did i say it should? i was pointing out a weak point of it compared to other stuff, like most of the backpack weapons have some sort of AoE effect>>553109864no one is forcing u to be here, ur free to leave nigger
Gib armor coloring plox
I genuinely despise the developers
>>553109582Compared to some targets requiring another shot to kill with the Quasar whereas the Spear and Recoilless would do it in one shot and can immediately reload to kill a second target? Yes it is.Compared to just grabbing a second EAT out of the hellpod and firing it less than 2 seconds later? Also yes.Compared to just immediately aiming at another target and firing the remaining rockets with the Commando? Most definitely yes.>>553109864Because there are loads of people joining and playing the game for the first time who want the instant gratification of having warbonds unlocked.Also, not everybody is able/willing to sink 4-5 hours into the game every day. They may have other hobbies/interests and even employment.
>>553109086You think this is bad?Go to the Destiny 2 general.
>>553110113>>553110196>t. all out of argumentsConcession accepted.
>>553110113>>553110196>get BTFO>play another game!>l-leave, nigger!These are genuinely gacha-tier responses.
>>553110709>>553110721Trooncord melty
>>553110709>>553110721
>what no Justice does to a general
>>553110784>>553111059>posting the wrong memesSaaar, your izzat....
LibpenGrenade pistolRecoilless rifle It's goon- I mean gaming time.
>>553109184>>553109582It's a very good weapon, but the strengths are being able to ignore it while (usually) having an occasional kill shot ready while staying mobile using your other guns. That and feeling like you can always take low-confidence shots for free.It's not overpowered, but it does let you do stuff like becoming unkillable with the warp pack at the cost of taking longer to kill heavy blobs. I'm not sure why you'd suggest otherwise besides trying to invite the same boring fucking argument for the thousandth time.
Letting south Asia have the Internet was an abject disaster for the human species.
>Defend lava planets>Fail this MO>New TU>Have to do stealth missions behind enemy linesI can see the swigger vision there's no way we do this 5 day MO then they make us play squids
>>553112257How the fuck does stealth even work in this game?
What am I in for?
>>553112370Setting yourself and your team on fire.
>>553112370the only good thing in the warbond, it can solo chargers
>>553112503Chargers haven't been a threat for a year and a half now.
>>553112351Apparently sound and sight are tracked separately, which is why there are two different types of stealth armor.
>>553099184>waaaaaaah I can't farm>waaaaaaah they want you to buyLet me guess you're a D10er whose only method of getting a hard-on is getting raped in Duos but due to that going to D3 to farm causes your dogshit attention span to act as auto-waterboarding for your brain.And I assert all of this as someone perfectly capable of pulling his weight in a high Diff and farm efficiently in low.
>>553112351It doesn't
>farming>payingyou can literally just spawn SC
>The Star Of PeaceI'm betting that this will culminate in another planet being permanently removed, and that's it.
>>553113364how
>>553113460It was already leaked >>549540175Basically we get to vote for what planet we wanna nuke off the galactic map
>>553113658So essentially Meridia singularity again, alright.
>>553112351basically the same as it does in other games minus the icon over their headsthe main difference is enemies react differently based on roles, regardless of unit type:-sentries (ie almost specifically bots on mounted guns) are deaf and stupid.-regular enemies just standing around can spot or hear you, and get alerted by near-misses unless it's a "quiet" projectile (if you don't spam it).-patrols aggro fast and get alerted instantly if their buddies die.when one alerts they have a non-cascading radius which alerts others nearby.that's basically it. it barely matters in a game where you can call in fucking airstrikes and orbital bombardments. (allegedly the upcoming stealth missions restrict airstrikes and orbital bombardments.)
>>553109184no but its a sidegrade to the bis rr
>bugtards couldn't even extract to complete the major orderkek
So what was the fucking point of that E-711 extracted meter if it didn't do shit.>>553113658Can't wait for Joel to be like "NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST NUKE HELLMIRE OR THE JEET BRIGADE PLANET"
>>553114079Omicron is a pain is the ass. Not even hard, just fucking stupid
>>553113742I vote for Earth. Make Mars the capital.
>>553113460>it destroys a single planet>we now have five identical ruins of planets>never gets used again for the rest of the game's lifespan
>>553114079>go dive on that stupid planet for the railroaded plot to progress>no it won't do anything if the major order fails>no you can't liberate the planet because we're preventing you from doing so>your reward is 0 medals because you're maxed out on medals and there's no content
>>553113364can (you) though?
>>553114207>>553114517>complete primary objective>leaveIt's that easy, why was this so difficult for bugtrannies?
>>553114115sorry anon, but they gotta do another planned-out event to generate some more "helldivers 2 is live service done right" articles
>>553114689>play on D1>speedrun objective>leaveDamn, why didn't we thought of that earlier
>>553114517>>no it won't do anything if the major order failsi've been saying in every thread that it was clearly impossible from day one and can be safely ignored because it will definitely be one of those MOs where they'll say "oh you failed but actually you didn't" and proceed with the storyline regardlesseverybody is dumb but mei am smarter than everybody
>>553114497lol>we get to choose between a couple planets>which of the planets "we" choose doesn't matter, it has no real effect on the Galactic War>ten thousand reddit/twitter posts of the destroyed planet get made>the superweapon destroys itself in the process so we can never use it again>DSS is also gone forever because of thislmao
>>553114497jetpack missions IN SPACE
>>553113658>your content reward for sloggin through an entire arc filled with slop MOs will be the ability to remove content
>>553115092Awesome, can we remove the predditor strain too while we're at it?
>>553115092goodthe fewer planets are left, the harder it will be for the retarded part of the player base (apparently 54%) to get distracted
I don't blame Arrowhead for not listening to the community most of the time if 80% of the players are constantly this retarded. How many gambits have been thrown away now?
>>553114959I fired a grenade launcher projectile at like 50 degrees up and it splashed my friend who was 120 meters away, in full sprint.He thought it was a bug or something.
>>553112370OP as fuck, imagine being able to kill anything by standing behind cover near it.
>>553115092>the Swedes, at the last second, change the laser's aim direction>it hits Super Earth's biggest arms manufacturer instead>all year 1 warbonds deleted
>>553115092>>553115258>OMG THEY'RE GOING TO NUKE SNOW PLANET NUMBER 5, MUH CONTENT!!!!!Keep the botn*gger circlejerk in your loony troony discord server. Thanks!
>>553115420>a planet with 2.2 times the HP of a standard planet and 1.5% decay rate>gambit it from 0% without Heavy Ordnance Distribution
>>553114959My charachter being a black NIGGER while using the peak physique armours.
>>553115420>hey would you rather choose generic planet number 27 or one of the only three magma planets that we haven't had access too in a few weeksIt's not hard to understand.
>>553115420>trying to coordinate an entire playerbase with zero communication>a playerbase that is predominantly composed of gamer dads and extreme casualsi dunno, how retarded are you?
>>553115420There also never was a single time a gambit mattered, so what's the point of crying over them?
>>553115420desu it's ~hypothetically~ a better move because the defense on K will succeed regardless, so getting Choepessa warmed up before it goes for Fury in the next wave isn't a bad idea. i kinda wish the dummies trying to defend Charon Prime for no reason would at least move over there instead for this reason.(not that this ever would actually work, because they'll waste any potential trickle they could achieve by going for the cities. so it's completely moot)PS just like irl I did not votepersonally i'd just let the bug fuckers keep it for now
>>553115420The best stratagy here is to divide between Choepessa and K so the defense fails and K will be open for longer.
>>553114959Back when we had the stratagem glitch that let you call in the same stratagem an infinite amount of times in a row in quick succession I went from lobby to lobby crashing everyone's game by summoning a billion mechs and FRVs
>>553114959I got all of the warbonds for free by exploiting the now fixed credit farm glitch
>>553116069>personally i'd just let the bug fuckers keep it for nowoh waiti wonder where this jet brigade boat is goingi guess i'd send it to vega bay if i were the king of democracy
>>553116103I wish I tried that with Railcannons, Walking Barrages were funny but those would have been kino
>>553116892joel is so mad that we gained a whopping 3 planets during the holiday break
>>553114770Hey, if the bug chow need to play D1 to have a chance of extracting then they probably should
>>553117107>implying Joel didn't just give them to usYou know it's impossible to take planets unless Joel approved it beforehand, right?
>SAAAAR I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR NUKING GENERIC PLANET NUMBER 41 , MANY CURSES UPON YOU
>>553109864>the game is hard-carried by the rigged galactic warsurrealist post
Gambit?Don't care, playing on lava kino
>>553117838they were testing the recon system at the same time, we wouldn't have gained anywhere near as much ground without ithence his swiggery now that he's back in office
i wonder how the automatons know about this MOdid you tell them anon
>>553108632Sexoooo
>Tuesday, March 10th 2026>after months of filler MOs - half of which were unwinnable railroaded ones >absolutely NO (non-warbond, they released useless ww1 slop mid february) content since early september 2025 we've finally completed the STAR OF PEACE>AH lines it up with their new content drop: SOUL OF SOCIALISM with new bot city biome, bot boss, cyborgs, etc. and a cyberstan invasion. >all content is exclusive to cyberstan>within 2 weeks we permanently destroy cyberstan using the star of peace and all update-related content never ever shows up againYour response?
>>553116892uh-oh!
>>553119084the star of peace will get to blow like two irrelevant shitholes before it's gonna get thrown into meridia to stop it from imploding
how long until the game dies and the devs are homeless?
>>553119326>triple defenseDamn, Joel is REALLY pissed off
>>553119370based on the datamined news reports it's going to turn them into black holesso we'll fortunately we'll get extra meridias if the old one breaks and we have to plug it up
>>553119663>we get a bot themed update when the star of peace finishes>we get another meridia and squid invasion drop from those black holessigh
>>553119370>>553119663Unless the devs continue to take the stealthbond/APC approach and decide if it's leaked then it's "spoiled" so they have a tantrum and change their minds.After what I've seen from AH in the last 6 months I'm not underestimating the power of swedish malice.
they really are just recycling the last bot MO with one less planet. must be nice to do fuckall for a third of the year and still be hailed as one of the best ongoing multiplayer games
>>553119867on the bright side, the more we make the more of the galaxy they can bulldoze. blowing up like 12 planets for the price of three is a bargain if you ask me
>>553109654why would you dive when you can crouch?
>>553116103This but with the flag crashing when you planted it
>>553115092>devs magically made new lava planets appear from thin air>still a third of the map unused we'll be fine
>>553120075>decide if it's leaked then it's "spoiled"this is entirely projection on the part of sexless nerds by the way. plenty of stuff has leaked only to come out later and not in the next warbond.
>>553120075desu the cinematics kinda suck so i wouldn't be surprised if it's misdirection in the first placethey'd have to get wise eventually rightmaybe those prisoners on pandora base they mentioned will accidentally get turned into cyborgs by a wormhole signal instead or something.probably not since it's in the middle of squid spacemaybe they'll steal the DSS and blow up super earth then
>>553119389without the tank, apc or finished squids this game is dead. and it’s been dead a long time
bip bap bopsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244321710333/76561197995866779We'll be defending K from spooky EVIL fucking BOTSEDF5 is really fun, a game that comes with splitscreen and so much raw content and fun grinding was a nice sabbatical from divers
>>553121875tree outta 'fo
We need a melee mech that has no gun but has chainsaw arms and a jump jetpack.
>>553121875still 3/4join join join!!!
I THINK BLITZ MISSIONS SUCK!
MOs and the Galactic war would be so much cooler if our actions actually affected specific planets. Imagine all planets started off looking the same but over time and with every MO that specific planet would actually change and show environmental changes. Not the copy paste biomes we have now. Have certain planets we've neen fighting over for a long time be shot up to shit, let us have an MO where where we build structures that ACTUALLY are visible on the maps later on, have ruins of or left over tech from previous MOs have a chance to randomly show up on a map, have specific statues in megacities dedicated to major events that happened in that specific sector. There's so many cool things that AH could do and consistently choose the laziest options
>>553122768Kino
>>553119326>Forced loss because jeet brigadeThanks Joel, very cool
>>5531218753/4, starting soon-ish
>>553119084Honestly kino. Also I'd love it if the game's canon ending was just as quick and downright insulting.
>>553121875I lied, we dropped one and lobby closed, we're gonna play EDF5 i like that game
>still no Moon planets on the actually fun (Bot) frontPLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASEDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
>>553123316MOs would be better if they rewarded buffs instead of useless medals. Nerfing war strider grenades? MO to go kill a bunch of them and blow up bulk fabricators, win it, and the war striders gets their arsenal nerfed. Pineapple sucks ass? Go gather a bunch of super samples so super earth can improve their strength. Too bad the low-IQ swede mind can't comprehend this.
>>553119084>He thinks they'll allow us to blow up planets that are put of our reachLol
>>553114115>So what was the fucking point of that E-711 extracted meter if it didn't do shit.A T M O S P H E R E
anyone got sc hacks and wanna make a lobby?I wanna finish out the superstore and spite the swiggers.I host normal lobbies all the time, but I'm too chicken to host hack shit ill be honest.
>>553124535>Our efforts don't change anything>Random planet attack will nerf us thoughSuch a retarded "rules for thee but not for me" mentality from swiggers
>>553124535Sounds like you just want buffs.
>>553124962You're getting buffs anyway with the patches, so might as well make it more interesting, and maybe give options to choose what gets buffed and what doesn't when you get an MO with multiple options.>>553124886Yeah the problem is it's made by swedes
>>553124962nta but the main reason I don't play HD2 anymore is that 90% of the arsenal is completely useless compared to the 10% that is, and I fucking despise the nerf mentality the devs have especially the shadow nerfs. They need to buff almost everything, MAYBE do SLIGHT nerfs to SOME of the current good weapons, and then THROW MORE ENEMIES AT US, and no I do not buy into the idea that they can't throw more enemies at us due to technical limitations when they USED TO THROW MORE ENEMIES AT US
>>553124886thats their entire philosophy when it comes to realism. enemies phase through walls but we cant get 5 extra bullets in a gun because "its unrealistic for the size of magazine"
>when they USED TO THROW MORE ENEMIES AT USUnironically D7-8 has more Chaff than D9-10 because the higher difficulties just replace them with more heavies you can easily one shot
>>553112684I see you've never hosted, which is basically like never having played.
weren't we just on the lava planets like two weeks ago? why are we there again? are we in some kind of vicious cycle now?
Nah, but sneak nerfing the coyote because they knew people would be mad, but they simply HAD to nerf it was actually direct evidence of them being malicious.
>>553125554How shit are you that you think 90% off the arsenal is useless.Id say you don't play the game but you already admitted to that.
>>553125834Sorry I meant to reply to (you) >>553125554
>>553125992I don't mean literally useless anon, obviously you can use whatever and still win, but 90% of the arsenal is dramatically underperforming compared to the 10% of "meta" options. Unless you just like those weapons or are purposefully using bad stuff for the hell of it there's no reason to use the majority of weapons/stratagems in the game right now. Maybe you think that's fine, but I don't. I'm horribly bored using the same shit over and over.
>>553125848They're already in violation of swedish labor law having the one intern flip the switch for the MO when he should be on his month long vacation, don't push it.
>>553125554It's not the enemy count, it's the AI. They cracked up the AI a while back to the point bots became unbeatable, but the game kept crashing. They did a balancing act to see how far they could push the ai without breaking the game, but now they can't add more enemies. If the enemy count goes up, they have to scale the AI back down. They probably have more wiggle room now with recent optimizations, but considering the fact that most graphics cards can't even survive anti cheat, I doubt we will be seeing increased enemy counts any time soon.
>>553126346I simply don't believe that's actually an issue. If it is, it's due to their own incompetence. Did anyone even notice any changes from that AI update nonsense? Figure it out, or just undo that AI change and throw more enemies at us.
>>553126204not him most weapons are fine but I do feel obligated to take either eat, ultimatum, or thermite for chargers / war striders every single match which is kinda gay. War striders can at least be killed by other support weapons now but there’s also dogs. I get it, you need AT for the tank units, but meh. Maybe if rocket pods or railcannon were less shit it’d feel like there were more options cause airstrikes aren’t exactly useful against dogs or reliable against chargers
>>553126546Yeah, the framerate. That's what we noticed.
>>553126346>It's not the enemy count, it's the AI.No it isn't.Stop talking.
>>553126204Why do you think the top 10% should be the standard though?Very few guns are bad, it's more that a few guns overperform.I'm not even complaining about it, i understand shitters need crutches, but i hate how people want to push the game into gagcha powercreep balancing.I want the constitution to be weak but useable like it is now.
>make death star>fail every mo to build it>it blows up when we fire it>arrowhead smugly chuffs, "super earth is so incompetent!">no death star 2remember it
>>553126204>purposefully using bad stuff for the hell of itYESYES THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO HOLY FUCKIN SHIT SHUT UP METASLAVE
>>553116069>just like irl I did not vote This game really is a perfect metaphor for democracy.
>>553126562>Maybe if rocket pods or railcannon were less shitTo be clear, when I say "90%" I'm including stratagems as well. Most of the airstrikes and whatnot also suffer from the issue of a few of them being dramatically better than the rest. Most of them need buffs. >>553126680Because the weapons that are worse than the 10% are less fun to use. Since the strong ones are more fun, everything should be buffed up to that level or slightly below it accompanied by those weapons getting slightly nerfed.
>>553126346>They cracked up the AI a while back to the point bots became unbeatable, but the game kept crashing??? The AI literally got dumber and the spawns were reduced
>>553126346I really wonder how complex the AI really is when they have no tactics besides walking at you and ignore all terrainIt doesn't get much more simple than that, it can't be THAT resource intensive
>>553126562Chargers die to 3 AC ass shots.But i do feel like we need better targeted AT reds like ye olden days of needing 500kg/OPS to deal with titans.
My biggest issue with the game is that each mission feels like its own instance rather than a part of a greater operation. They could make the game more interesting and "easier" without buffing individual weapons if they actually made objectives matter more and have effects that persist through subsequent missions and then balance the enemies around it.
>>553126780I'm not going to do something less fun for the hell of it. They should make all of the weapons fun.
>>553126864Yes, it went down after it went up. All things do. The point is it's a balancing act, and they rebalance it every time something changes. I want more enemies again too; I just don't think AH can do it. Maybe they can outsource the idea to non retards like they did with the bloat.
>>553126780underage melty
>>553127023Gotcha, introducing a brand new game mode called Elite Deep Helldive where you do all three operations at once with the same squad and you don't go back to your orbiter or change your loadout, better not crash Helldiver!
>>553127127But imagine if you didn't eat breakfast
>>553127352but I had breakfast LOL!!!!!!
no one fucking knows what a "gambit" is and if you're expecting anyone to read mountains of pointless flavor text to find out you're a fucking clown
Make all status effect armors give immunity rather than resistanceFuck Swiggers
D10Lobby Pickssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244327741047/76561197999417031
>>5531278342/4
>>553127704waagh game is too hard!!!!lower the difficulty
>>553127704Nazi gas chud here, if you use heavy gas armor and the health booster you can become immune to gas. You'll still cough obnoxiously and get blurred vision tho.For fire you're outta luck, which is gay.
>There are people who don't even play the game anymore in this thread claiming that "90% of the weapons are useless" Bufftroons are beyond pathetic. Its like they're mentally stuck in 2024. You can show them patch notes that prove the contrary, but they keep repeating lies or exaggerations like a malfunctioning bot.
>>553127584>HUR HURRR >DURRRRR>I AM RETARDEDVery insightful anon, just out of curiosity what balancing changes do you think the game needs right now?
553128710Sorry I dropped your (you) chuddie>>553128746I'll give it a try I got some disposable SC
>>553128918being a shit dev and then blaming the players for your incredible incompetence is faggot behavior. cease.
>>553127127>>553127205>I can’t have fun unless I’m using the eruptorbraindead
>>553127704>chemical resistant armor>not resistant to acid>only lets SOME nerve agent throughmuch realism many immersion 10/10 thank you sweden
>>553129706>Gas still doesn't reduce an enemy's armor by 1Don't remind me...
>>553129706lower the difficulty
Just imagine one day my friends we will be playing Helldivers 3 (upgraded HD2) and it will be an MMO with 256 players per operation with sexy gacha skins and I will follow your lean diver around and bury my head in your ass and it will just be mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>553129871dont worry bro that’s what the acid vial grenade will dolondon gaming these whore bugs will pay
>>553129118>being a shit player and then blaming the devs for your incredible incompetence is faggot behavior. cease.ftfy
>>553126845But the top 10% are boring though.I never find myself using the xbow or purifier.
>>553129972why dont you people just go jack off to porn until your dick has friction burns and you’re just shooting water out to get it all out of your system like a normal functioning human being instead of posting about it like a 12 year old talking about how le horny you are with your cartoon videogame mods
>>553128918He's right. The in game galactic map is borderline useless and is mogged by a fan project map site. Swedes could add also useful stuff like a "helldive board" or something where people can vote on what planet to attack. Add more fancy animations to the galactic map to raise the awareness of the average grug. Nothing is going to happen in the foreseeable future though.
>>553129972but thats just planetside 2 (HD3 will run just as poorly too)
>>553127302this is you
>>553130462browns cant do that, they are in fact, as horny as they are impotent. gooning is to them as breathing is to a normal human (white and some asians {jeets not included})
>>553129438If you can't understand how someone doesn't find it fun to gimp themselves on purpose then idk what to tell you >>553130082The bottom 90% don't kill things effectively enough to be fun (for the most part).
>>553130930>The bottom 90% don't kill things effectively enough to be fun (for the most part).You do not play the game. Or you want the enemies to offer zero challenge to player. Which is it?
>>553130618Anon, the joke is that you're already doing 3 missions in a row with the same squad and same loadout
>>553131135He already admitted to quitting the game because the guns weren't good enough.
>>553130930If you can't understand how only using the top 10% weapons and refuse to change it up without worrying about being SUBOPTIMAL then you’re a metaslave idk what to tell you
>>553131135>Or you want the enemies to offer zero challenge to playerI do not understand this argument. Is Path of Exile boring because you mulch through chaff enemies? You don't need the individual enemies to be difficult for the game to be fun, especially when Arrowhead's idea of a "difficult enemy" is the dragonroach or war strider. People play Path of Exile and other ARPGs where you mulch through chaff enemies like nothing and find them enjoyable. Like I said, Arrowhead needs to simply throw more enemies at us and make it FUN TO KILL THEM, which means BUFFING MOST THINGS. I'm sorry anon but no I do not find shooting a liberator penetrator at an alpha commander for 5 years to be fun or any other nonsense like that. Everyone I know who plays HD2 has quit or dramatically scaled back how much they play the game due to this exact issue. >>553131448It's not about being suboptimal, it's about it not being fun.
>>553131135>>553131297>>553131448NTA but some stuff like the flamethrower is a joke and your only deluding yourself into thinking its good when you use it. especially because its more of a threat to you than the enemies since helldivers are highly flammable for some reason.
>>553131949Thats the bottom 10% though, but the other anon is pretending like everything that isn't the crossbow or ultimatum is the same power as the flamethrower, which is utterly retarded.
>>553131729>shooting a liberator penetrator at an alpha commander for 5 years to be funholy shitter self report
>>553131729Your argument is really fucking retarded.Helldivers isn't an ARPG.You might aswell complain that the crew isn't dateable or sexable because that's what people play dating sims for.
>>553131729>Dragonroach and warstrider Already nerfed into the ground >5 years to kill a alpha with a libpenRidiculous hyperbole>Everyone I know who plays HD2 has quit or dramatically scaled back how much they play the gameOk and? Not sure why this matters. Your friends were never likely serious about the game in the first place. And further dumbing down the game probably wouldn't bring them back anyways.
>>553132261remember what they took from you
>>553130462>>553130858say it to my face bitchchinga tu madre
the assault rifles are finethe smgs are finethe shotguns are kinda lackluster and could use some damage buffs here or there but they’re finemost of the energy weapons are finethe dmrs are finewhat exactly is unusable? there are a few exceptions like the lib conc or something but what the fuck are these people whinging about
>>553131161>you don't go back to your orbiter or change your loadout,did you even read the post? if it's your post then you are equally retarded and are still the image.
>>553133280tacotaco quesadilo burrito
Official pawdivers, when!?
>>553133687Lib conc can be useful if paired with something like the fire dog. But then again so is the stun rifle.
>>553133950i find it funny how it just shoves alpha commanders to the other side of the mapbut it’s worse than the pummeler in just about every way except uhh the range?
I love the lib conc for how weird it is. Its probably the least popular primary at this point.
>>553133943This is what AI was invented for, post more.
>>553134398pacifier
>>553133687Shitters want every gun to be as good or better than the eruptor and purifier.
>>553134553And when that happens they want the eruptor and purifier to be better than the new top dogs.
>>553134552No way, the stun effect is weak but it has med pen and a high fire rate.
>>553134552pacifier does actual dps and is AP3 THOUGH
>>553133943>>553134401kill yourselves>>>/trash/
"Why won't these guys play on bug cum planets to do unfun missions with a bunch of different fun types of enemies we created for them??? Oh well, let's send them back to the magma planets to see if they can finish the MO this time"
>>553134787Idk, i never see either, but i prefer the libconc.If the pacifier had either better stun, a bigger mag option or slightly more damage it might have been okay, but as it is it sucks at everything it can do.Atleast the lib conc sets out to do something (push around enemies) and manages to do it.
>>553135145magma planets are kinda cool at leasthive worlds are just pure cancer with pure cancer enemies
>ITS ACTUALLY SUPER FUCKING COOL THAT YOU NEED TO MAG DUMP (AND YOU ONLY GET 6 MAGS) WITH ALL YOUR SHOTS BEING SUPER ACCURATE ON THE WEAKPOINT IN ORDER TO KILL ONE 'RARE' ENEMY!!! AND BTW PATROLS SPAWN 4 OF THEM WITH BOT DROPS SPAWNING AT LEAST 20!!!!
>>553135249>magma planets>kinda coolAnon needs to go back to 3rd grade science and learn the difference between hot and cold
>>553133280sudaca burroI don't speak mexican and don't know what those words mean, nor do I care
>>553134872Pacifier has only 140 more dps than the lib conc but the lib conc has more than 3 times the durable damage.
>>553135298
>>553135518a stat that matters only against alpha commanders and the asses of chargers and you're only shooting one of those things with your primary
>illuminate enemies that have been datamined and working since before the faction was released are still not in the game>every illuminate planet is a 'liberation' effort rather than defense>every one of those planets have sub 30 people aside from 2 which then only have a thousand>squids don't even make those war of the world sounds anymore
>>553135621Med pen only matters vs... hiveguard and uh... overseers?
>>553135518>only 140 more dpsor in other words, 30% more and make that 2x against AP2 targets on top of having the option to dmg AP3 spots and not push devastator heads all over the place
>>553109184Yes, don't listen to the shitters. Pair it with the shield backpack and you will be a one man army
>>553135981Lib conc 2 hits dev heads while pacifier needs 3.
>>553135692Arrowhead has been making fake assets and fake content to throw off and discredit leakers. In fact it's the #1 priority right now taking precedence over actual content.
>>553135621pacifier still does 30% more dps to alpha head lmao. the case is even more egregious against a dev leg since it’s even less durable and even moreso against an overseer’s 0% durable
>>553136967
>>553136373and it’s way faster and easier to land those 3 shots
>>553137018Dev arms are AP1, so lib conc deals full damage.
>>553137169I have longed for a true slugger ever since they took her away from me all that time ago
>>553135518>>553134872>>553134552pacifier sounds like a baby toy so i dont use it. There is enough gay shit in this game>>553136967CASE IN POINT
>>553137275Ok but I said leg and even still the base dps is higher for pacifier against AP1 while having less recoil and also not moving the target around
If they were smart, we'd put it on mox to cuck the jeets
>>553137180Still, why bring it over a liberator, it's a straight downgrade. Atleast the libconc has its own niche, even if its a shitty niche.
>>553127302>same team>same loadout>3 missions in a row>reinforcements start at 1There you go swedes, made that worthless reinforcement booster also a viable pick.
>>553138106Because it halts stalkers. The libconc is outperformed even in its shitty niche by the pacifier and pummeler lol
>>553138289>pacifier>stunning anything before it's shit dps can kill itLmao
>>553138289the lib conc also knocks stalkers around like it owes them moneydifference is it does it on the first bullet while the pacifier needs 4 to 5
>>553134398>>553134552I have never seen anyone but myself using either since I started playing on D10. I'm only trying them because they neutered smgs for no fucking reason and ruined the pummeler.
>>553138826What?SMGs got huge buffs the last 2 patches, try them, they're great.Pummeler absolutely rapes bugs ATM, my go to cave gun.
>WAAAA WAAA THEY NERFED MY 9 MILLION DPS WEAPONS WAAAA WAAAA
>>553139046didn't they just significantly nerf their range?
>>553139046>huge buffsThose don't matter when they nerfed their range into the fucking floor. Maybe, MAYBE on bugs, but absolutely not on squids or bots.
>>553139325inside typical engagement range they do more damage than before, outside typical engagement ranges they do less damage than before.
>>553139325Only at ranges where it was already worthless.Up to something like 50 meters they are way better than before, actually should be even more with the 2nd smg buff wave.
>WAAAA WAAA THEY NERFED MY 50 MILLION RAGDOLL ATTACKS PER SECOND ENEMY
>>553138514the difference is the pacifier will kill the stalker while lib conc needs to stay on an enemy and push it around foreverpacifier is more a weird sidegrade, the more direct comparison to be making is the pummeler. it outperforms libconc in almost every possible stat except range
>>553139325>>553139628Just walk up to the enemies and rape them with your buffed smg. Are you trying to be a le heckin' epic sniper with an smg? Are you afraid to get up close and personal? Its just a game.
>>553128793>LOOK at LE PATCH NOTES chuds!!!>look at patch notes>"WOW weapons all buffed by (specific numbers), enemies armor and drag numbers changed too... uhh changed slightly (vague nonsense) ok dinner time bye">sloptubers take an afternoon datamining it and testing it>every fucking thing is actually like: weapons buffed by 1 damage within 10m (no breakpoints affected), but due to enemy armor changes or drag changes they're now nerfed by 5 damage past 10m, nerfed by 15 damage past 25m resulting in much lower DPS in 99% of scenarios>further stealth nerfs by buffing enemies or changing DoT numbers (DoT bugs fixed NEVER EVER)Buffchads won and that's the only reason this dead service game that hasn't had real content since september still has over 100 players, but it's a big mistake thinking the patch notes is a feather in your cap. The "patch notes" now exist solely as a vessel for swedes to lie with so they can keep up their quota of malice without inviting backlash by being as open about it as they've been in the past because snoy cracked the whip.
the smg range nerf is a complete nothingburger and anyone who complains about it is being theatric and doesnt use smgs
>>553139786Stalkers are 50% durable AP1 on most places, how is the pacifier ever beating the lib conc against something like that?
>>553139962trvth nvke
>>553140072with its fire ratedo the math it comes out to be about the sameit also has ap3 for hive guards and does more dps against alpha commander headshonest to fucking god please tell me the advantage it has over the pummelerI’m not even trying to win some epic internet argument I on some level want you to convince me of a niche the lib conc has over the pummeler more than anything. This pacifier side argument is not my main focus
Can defender actually 1 tap devestators in the head with the momentum bug?It deals 110 damage.
>>553140026The one that everyone got pussyblasted about was the Reprimand, because they wanted their massive damage AP3 primary to have enough range to consistently headshot at 80 meters.
>>553140598same velocity as the verdict which was previously able to, but the increased drag since then might counteract it enough
>>553140545Pummeler mogs alot of guns honestly, legit a tier on bugs.
>>553139962>>553140227>Seething samefag that doesn't even play the game anymore typed all that out>"The patch notes go against my beliefs so that means they're false!">Admits to watching sloptubersKek bufftrannies
>>553138167Or just no reinforcement reset between missions. Why try to be original when others already made something that works.
truly they just need to give the lib conc scorcher style explosive splash damage and then it will be unique enough
Scorcher is still the best gun in the game, and it launched WITH the game.Nothing released since then is better, and thus there has been no power creep.
>>553139962brvtal trvke
>>553141170>scorcher>supply pack>ultimatumyep, it’s gamer time
Dunno if it's intentional (probably not because swedes are retarded) but I noticed that the out of bounds areas in eradicate maps are much further away than they used to be, which is nice.
>>553141868WE GOT MORE NAMES FOR THE LIST FINALLY
>>553130930I bet you need a summon to carry you through soulsborne games and then get mad when invaders show up. Just a hunch.
>>553137169Should they buff it's durable dmg too?
>>553141927Sure go on, those are random pubs
>>553095874You should go play DRG then, the content droughts of over a year or more on the regular are sure to please you.
>>553139962Yep, truke.
>he's still samefagging
uh oh melty
>>553142304how many samefag posts are you gonna do
>>553138826What happened to the pummeler? That shit was S tier.
The nerftroon and can't accept the social exclusion that is much familiar to xer high school years and so she projects "samefagging". Must be tuff to be unwanted even when you have a clean slate.
>>553142681Cope, bufftroon. We all see through your little game.
uh oh gigamelty
>>553142770
>>553142770It's no samefagging. It will be easier now if you accept what you already know is true: that you're outnumbered and unpopular as usual, and people regularly disagree with you and you are alone.
>nerftroon is samefagging while accusing buffCHADS of samefaggingpottery
>>553142951>You're outnumbered So was Alexander the Great at the battle of Gaugamela. And yet he won just as i will too.
>>553142681trvke!!!!
>>553142681trvke nvke ftw
^nerftroon being pathetic through false-flagging
>YOU ARE OUTNUMBERED SAAAR MY IZZAT IS SUPERIOR
>>553143681no im the nerftroon and the bufftroon at the same time im just shitposting on both sides
>shameless bufftroon still samefaggingIts not the le epic own you think it is .
>>553142681Trvke!
>bufftroon samefagging episode againshameless
uh oh nerfnigger meltie
>jump on for some simple SC farming>84 joins my mission to help me>we do a couple of diff 3s>decide to jump up to diff 6s since I need the Super Rares>duo clear strider elimination>right at the end we are joined by a 150 and a 139>proceed to wipe the fucking floor with the bots over the course of the next two missions>I recite Riley by Juicy J and the Mahoraga Opp Stompa speech as I detonate a dual patrol ship factory and, respetively, an orbital cannon>finish off with a Blitz that's non-stop fighting but we still full clear itCompared to the type of shitters I got playing on release this is Heaven. Switching to Public is worth it /v/ros
>>553142681Xe infects the Arc Raiders general as well. I said the same thing and he got so ass blasted that he gets noticed I guess he had to scurry over here, just to be immediately called out again. Fucking kek!>don't worry troon, we're just samefagging like you, right?
>>553144280Why are you responding to your own post??
>>553144280yeah why are you responding to your own post
>>553144280that's hilarious. It must rly be a mod powertripping or some shit, wonders he hasn't be banned yet.
>buffbrown samefag spamming to save face massive +izzat
>the bufftranny thinks his izzat can be saved by samefagginglmfao he doesn't know
So uh...when are we getting that content
wow that's a lot of shit that i won't read
>>553141341The swiggers are going to blow up super earth and have an MO to kill helldivers JUST for this post alone
>>553142681>she
>>553145968+izzät
>>553145968what no content does to a generalthe hidden cost of swigger development teams
>>553146713what no buffs does to a generalthe hidden cost of swigger development teams
Lobbies are so fun you should join them instead of being angry on here
>>553146908there's like one lobby every 6 hours
>>553146808yes thats right
>>553146713what no nerfs does to a generalthe hidden cost of swigger development teams
>>553145741YIKES!!! YIKES!!! BAN THIS ERAVIN CHUD FROM THE DISCORD!!!
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244345108426no nerftroons alloweddiving magma planets
>>553146964yes thats right
>>553144585>>553144654
>>553146949probably cause people have jobs and the ones that post through the day are either neets or employed and have the free time on company dime to shitpost
>>5531471192/4
>>553147119sorry not joining an eruptor RR lobby
>>553147119you can't just post anime girls like that and not provide sauce
>>553147435sauce provided in lobby
>>5531471193/4
>>553147119buffGOODDDD lobby FVLL!!!
>>553140227>>553141341>>553142304Based agreeing with me chads. Trvkefully.
>>553147119back down to 3/4
>>5531471193/4 again I'm not sure why the drawfren left :(
>>553147119Why did everybody just freeze up... and now it's full.I blame crossplay.
>>5531471194/4the sauce is Gertrud Barkhorn from Strike Witches
>>553147983Gomenasai, I would've loved to dive with you
>>553148161And now the thread is going to be to dead to make another lobby, i hate this gay earth.
>>553139962>(DoT bugs fixed NEVER EVER)its all so tiresome
I searched the archive till november and could not find the list, I don't think its real unless it goes back to 2024.
>>553148971>favorite weapons in the game are the torcher, crisper and flamethrower>they basically don't work whatsoever unless I'm the hostI fucking hate swiggers
>>553144691You scared him back to the Arc Raiders general. He's so noticable you can watch him sperg in real time. He won't be hard to find.
>>553148267i'll make a lobby in a hour and a half or so, i gotta finish making and eating dinner
>>553147751trvke nvke
>>553147119>defending the ICBM until the last possible momentAbsolutely Democratic
>>553147751What does roast terminid taste like?
>>553150013>it's real
>>553150981>the diver next to the ICBMkino
Oh, so it was just Wulfnigger samefagging his posts. Not surprising considering this retarded nigger was caught samefagged before.
Oh, so it was just anti-Wulfnigger samefagging his posts. Not surprising considering this retarded nigger was caught samefagged before.
holy melty
>>553151053gamey lobster
Is the libcarbine worth the warbond and medals? I'm new and only have 2 warbonds, demolition because I was told it was the all around best, and steeled for Big Iron.
>Make one comment about a weapon.>Come back an hour later and there are at least 30+ shit posts about it with /vg/ autist posts making up most of them.4shit really needs IDs here. Maybe that would push all you fucking losers to kys.
>Haha I copied your post!!!!! Look how stupid you look!mega wulfnigger melty
>>553153042>is a light pen weapon worth itno lol
>>553153042If you like the regular liberator, then yeah. It's a straight upgrade in every way except it's got very slightly worse accuracy; all other downsides you can fix with attachments.
>>553097861>>553099184You don't actually need to unlock all of them. Only a few are essential, and then maybe a quarter really good. The rest are just flavor.t. started playing a month ago and have spent $20
>>553097861For the sake of the game's long-term health they probably need to start bundling them for a discounted price per year.
>>553128793>patch notesnot like those matter when 40% of the changes to the game are unlisted changes
>>553153042It's a good weapon, but you should buy a warbond for its overall contents, not just for a single weapon. That being said, Viper Commandos has some decent stuff, but you can generally live without it. The Medium Peak Physique armor is in the Superstore, not the warbond, and while the booster is considered top 4 you can also live without it since like 80-90% of all matches you play in someone else will probably pick it if you don't. If you like wearing Light or Heavy armor then you should definitely pick up the warbond, but otherwise just grab the Medium armor from the Superstore. The Lib Carbine is pretty fun, but at the end of the day it's an assault rifle and those generally don't compete for best in slot.
I was pleasantly surprised at how good Dominator is right now when I was fighting bots with it.It's like a shotgun that can double as a sniper rifle.
>>553147435first off, how the fuck do you not know strike witchessecond, if you hit that little arrow after the post number, there are a few options for image search
>day 701 of the 3 day special terminid suppression operation
>>553153042The carbine isn't worth the SC, but peak physique is the game's best armor passive. If you don't have the Jaguar armor from the Super Store, the warbond is worth it just for the armor. The lib carbine is a ton of fun; I just would not recommend the warbond for that alone. Experimental infusion is also S tier. Your SC will be well spent, and you'll never want to use the eruptor with other armors again. Pick it up anon.
>>553153042stop using assault rifles in this game. they're the least fun category of primary weapons
>>553155068>peak physique is the game's best armor passiveI laughed
If you do not have more than 1000 hours on the game, your opinion does not matter in regards to balancing.
>>553155124I like them. You can't stop me. Libpen a Judy are the only guns I have at rank 25. I also enjoy MMG with crossbow and senator.
>>553155068>peak physique is the game's best armor passiveHow can you say this when fortified, medkit, siege ready, and Engi kit exist?
>>553155812nta but peak physique is the best option for certain weapons, unless you enjoy the abysmal ergonomics on things like the HMG. I definitely wouldn't call it the best passive in the game though.
>>553155629MMG and stalwart are kino, but ARs feel like peashooters
>>553155812not him but ergonimic is gay, peak physique made the minigun and HMG actually usable
>>553147119geges, was fun, too bad B got disconnected midway through the penultimate mission, I wonder if he couldn't rejoin due to the desync. We had two SSDs because of it
If you do not have more than 2000 hours on the game, your opinion does not matter in regards to balancing.
>>553155124>can aim and pop heads from far away>can blast your entire load in close range>has light and medium pen variants>high fire rate guns sound funI will never stop using Assault Rifles, maybe until they introduce a Battle Rifle category
>>553156184I've been playing and hosting lobbies since day 1
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244351612909/76561198126520852D10, Robots.
The only guns I have at level 25 are the Lib, Adjudicator and Scythe
The only gun I have at level 25 is the Tenderizer.
The only guns I have at level 25 are the crossbow and eruptor and all other guns suck
>>553156343brown and trooncord pilled
>>5531563432/4.
>post lobby to actually play the game>get called a trannyScrew you guys.
>>553156528
>>553156952stop using bad guns you are gay!
>>553156757It's just our thread troll, ignore it
>>553156184>If you do not have more than 2000 hours on the console version of the game, your opinion does not matter in regards to balancing.Fixed. Playstation clay btw.
>>5531563433/4, get in!
>It's a warstrider seed and nobody brought an RR
>>553157247But you did bring the Railgun and 1 shot every war striders to save the team right?.... Right?
>>553156343Pool is closed.
How can Indians even play this game when this is in it?
>>553157863Pool is closed due to time
>Still no Medic WarbondWould it really be that big of a deal if they just gave us the Rep-80? Most of the deaths in this game are from one shots anyway.
>>553157410I still not sure what the sweet spot on charge time for the railgun is for Max damage before it explodes.
D10Lobby Pickssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244354094411/76561197999417031
>>553159801>2011 GMOD animations.webm
>>5531600972/4
>>5531600973/4
>>553159893What in the fuck could they give us besides regen grenades? We already have the armor passive for extra stims and healing duration. We already have the shitty non-warrant medipistol that would actually benefit from that feature. There is zero way to make a guard dog balanced with infinite heals and having a bot automatically stim me when I can easily do it myself and space them out is useless. Supply pack also exists. What possible addition could they flavor in that is medic related?
>>553160097full
THIS LOBBY WAS PROMISED TO /hdg/ OVER 6000 SECONDS AGOd10we'll figure it outsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244355052311/76561198085764721
>>553160824Medic Sniper Rifle that shoots stims and you can actually aim itMedic armour that doesnt look awfulNot sure about booster but it would probably be something dumb and useless
>>5531616711/4
>>553153042>Le big iron memeGo back
>>5531616712/4
>>553161682So a worse stim pistol that takes up a primary or support weapon, armored which we already have, and a random booster that will have to compete with experimental booster. Sounds like a fucking terrible warbond.
>>553163945How is it worse than the stim pistol if you can aim it?
>>553164617>takes up a primary or supportI am pretty sure I made this clear.
>>553161671still 2/4ur all niggers
arc grenade feels pretty good against rupture strain
>>553164862Why are you acting like there arnt support weapons that behave like primary weapons?>Take Medic Sniper>Take Stalwart or some other support weapon to act in as Primary weapon
>>553165121So gut your primary and forced to take the stalwart or LC or risk running dry since most every other support weapon doesn't have the legs to be used as the primary chaff clearer without out of ammo quickly. At least without a supply pack. So then you are committing 3 stratagems to take a healing primary that we already have on the pistol. Am I reading this right? I am not looking for a slam dunk here. It is just a bad idea on general principle. This is not the ant hill to die on.
>>553165476>So then you are committing 3 stratagems to take a healing primary that we already have on the pistolWhat the hell do you mean 3 strats? If the Medic Rifle is a support weapon or primary when where on earth are you getting the other 2 from?>Am I reading this right?No, youre not.>At least without a supply pack.People that use supply pack never share it. And the fact you keep bringing this up is leading me to believe you wouldnt like medic weapons because it wouldnt let you run off on your own. Meaning you are fundamentally not understanding the point of medic weapons.
ONE ARGUMENT AGAINST THE JAR 5 BEING AP4???
>>553166073Its Jar 5 not Jar 4
>>553166073Eruptor exists.
>>553166138AP5 JAR LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>>553166169this would be the non crutch version
>>553165704You were the one bouncing between making it a support or a primary. Either or it either eats a primary slot or a support and also a strat. Point is no one uses the medic pistol. If it was even half as useful as you think it is we would adapt our playstyle to sitting still and getting the free drugs. As it stands mobility is more useful and if it requires you to be still then it is essentially worthless in a hectic firefight. We have so many other avenue of healing and self maintainece a medic rifle would never see the light of day after release day. Believe me if the medic pistol locked on like the warrant it would be an instant addition to nearly every single one of my kits. Problem is it is asking people to coordinate that much doesn't work, especially in a fight (See: Team reloads).
>>553161671lobby dead just like this general
>>553166260I just opened the thread anon I'm not at fault
Give me 1 (UNO) argument as to why Maxigun shouldn't be buffed.And as a reminder, autistic screeching, ad hominems and obsessive bootlicking are not arguments.
>>553166240>You were the one bouncing between making it a support or a primary.I literally never mentioned it being a support or primary. You did. Heres my post: >>553161682 Where did I ever mention it taking any slot? You were the first one to bounce between Support or Primary: >>553163945>If it was even half as useful as you think it is we would adapt our playstyle to sitting still and getting the free drugs.The point of being able to aim the gun (meaning no terrible sway and longer range) meaning you can make more reliable and accurate shots at range.>As it stands mobility is more useful Yes, I agree. Thats why I said the Medic Sniper Rifle would be something you can actually aim. The main issue with the Stim Pistol is how unreliable it is with its atrocious sway.>you to be still then it is essentially worthless in a hectic firefight.False. Youre doing this under the idea of never actually contributing to any fight and how would healing people and keeping them under the effect of a constant heal not be a useful thing during a hectic firefight?>We have so many other avenue of healing and self maintainece a medic rifle would never see the light of day after release day.This is like saying we will never get the hover pack or warp pack because we already have a jump pack for mobility.>Problem is it is asking people to coordinate that much doesn't workYou dont need to be on coms larping as arma to shoot someone.
>>553160824Defibrillator that can revive non-gib'd helldivers.
>>553156343GGs.
>>553166761it's an ok gun.sacrifice mobility for more than double the DPS of the MMGalso gives +1 stratagem slot since you dont need a backpack.It's a fine sidegrade to MMG. Just a bit of a skill floor with learning where/when to use it without getting ganked.
>>553166845The sway is rough but asking someone to try and pin down helldivers in a fight. As they as dashing and diving constantly. With a scoped weapon. Trying to ascertain who is wounded and who is not quickly is just never going to happen. Dedicated medic role is not in the cards unless they include a health bar above people's heads. More often then not we trust our own stim management on when and where to use it and if we need to use a stim. We don't have the time to waste for someone else to apply it or worse. Die before they can get a bead on you.
>>553166979That could be a thing but I trust the swiggers about as far as I can throw the average American woman they could code reviving correctly.
>>553167142>The sway is rough but asking someone to try and pin down helldivers in a fightDo me a favor. Load into a game with the AMR and see how much trouble you have shooting them with zero communication. >Trying to ascertain who is wounded and who is not quickly is just never going to happenUnironic Skill issue. I take the stim pistol every game and I notice someone getting hit the moment it happens. When you have a weapon that can heal people, you start noticing when people take damage a lot faster.>Dedicated medic role is not in the cards unless they include a health bar above people's heads. Like I said. Skill issue on your part.>More often then not we trust our own stim management on when and where to use it and if we need to use a stimI dont see what this has to do with anything.>We don't have the time to waste for someone else to apply it or worseOnce again this is a skill issue. When my stim pistol is on point most people dont even need to stim because Ive already pre-stimmed them or applied enough healing that they dont need to.A lot of what youre saying just sounds like you dont have any real experience using the stim pistol or playing with supporting your team in mind and making up scenarios in your head from a place of ignorance.
bobby loco
>>553167529I'll humor you. Ok it is a skill issue. Must be a "skill issue" for 99.4% of the player base because that is how much uses the pistol. The amount of dedicated focus you would require to keep tabs on everyone's health and stim they fast enough to be relevant. You are essentially taking yourself out of the fight to play doctor. A warbond that turns a 4 man into a 3 is a terrible idea.
>>553167276Knowing their laziness they would just make it an emote that somehow revives.
>>553167067>sacrifice mobility for more than double the DPS of the MMGYou mean burning ammo twice as fast for the same damage?It's so inaccurate that you can't actually aim for weakspots like with MMG while being only medpen so aiming is actually required.Any potential DPS decrease is just theoretical, any large target will be too armored, any small target will make you miss your shots due to the spread and it'll take you just as much time if you simply sprayed MMG relatively at head level, while wasting twice the ammo despite your reserves being the same.The mobility loss and loadout flexibility loss gives you nothing.Spinning not being able to use a backpack as freeing a stratagem slot (when you might just as well simply use no backpack in the first place on MMG and still do better than Maximgun) is pure swedeslop argument, bravo.Still waiting for that 1 (UNO) argument.And as a reminder, autistic screeching, ad hominems and obsessive bootlicking are not arguments.
>>553167989>The amount of dedicated focus youGlancing to the corner of your screen when you hear someone get shot requires a ton of focus for you?>You are essentially taking yourself out of the fight to play doctor. A warbond that turns a 4 man into a 3 is a terrible idea.So you think saving people stims by whipping out a gun to shoot them and them immediately swap back to another gun is turning the game into a 3 man game?Is that right?
>>553168403>exosuit gatling gun = AP3>gatling gun sentry = AP3>personal gatling gun = AP3You know what this means right? Thats right, nerf Maxigun to AP2
>>553168439>So you think saving people stims by whipping out a gun to shoot them and them immediately swap back to another gun is turning the game into a 3 man game?If it eats a primary or support slot. Yeah. Or you could just do the same with the stim pistol. Again it is not great argo but it is not nearly as bad as you are making it. It simply requires too much player focus to use in a real fight. Adding a scope to it would not make it any less useless in that regard. Buff the current stim pistol with auto-lock so you can whip it out during an engagement and get back into the action and find another warbond idea. Medic is simply not happening.
>>553160097GGs, surprisingly civil considering the company.
>>553168702Anon, Im starting to think medic weapons just might not be for you.
>>553168702A good medic leandiver is worth 2.You hate to see them leave... but you love to watch em go.
>>553169004I don't think they would be for anyone anon. That is the issue. A scoped medigun would just never be utilized and again. Save the healing grenade. Not much you can really work with for a warbond dedicated to this one role. There is not enough meat on this bone for a whole bond.
>>553169237People have been asking for more team oriented weapons and to fix the stim gun because they want to use them. They currently dont use the stim pistol because arrowhead made the sway so fucking awful that most people dont want to deal with it.
>makes medics obsoleteMost things that kill you in this game do so instantly, and for the rest you have picrel. If you actually run out of stims, youre a shitter and deserve to die.
>>553169513This is like saying hospitals makes first aid kits obsolete
>>553169513A good medic allows scratch damage to be ignored and all your stims can be saved for emergency situations.
>>553169357Thing is we have team guns and it is almost never utilized. Team reload should be a staple of every dive but it is so difficult to coordinate it's left behind. Right now you have to herd helldivers like cats to get them in the same place at the same time facing the same direction. Next real team based weapon would ironically be the Bastion. In HD1 the turret had only like a 60' firing arc and not a true turret. Also the gunner was another helldiver while the driver had control over control over where the tank went and how it was orientated. That will require actual cooperation but that if a frigan tank. Most small arms don't bring enough benefit to command the attention of two players.
>>553169710The Stim Pistol is currently great and healing chip damage so it doesnt add up and you can save personal stims when you have an emergency.
>>553169830Trvke.
>>553169771>Right now you have to herd helldivers like cats to get them in the same place at the same time facing the same direction.Sounds like your problem is wanting to be the team captain and tell everyone what to do than actually working as a team.
>>553169710>>553169830>>553169939>transparent samefag-Izzat
>>553170093
>>553169771>lets all bunch up so we can get swarmed and killedEven from the milsim angle, it has never been a good idea.
>>553170093>>553169710>>553169830>>553169939>calling out his own samefagging-Izzat
>>553169980Sounds like you live in a delusional alternative reality where this shit happens. I can safely say it has been over a years. A solid whole fucking year since I've seen a team reload.
>>553170323>N3 with a literal EAT dangling on his person
>>553170457>Sounds like you live in a delusional alternative reality where this shit happens.Where what happens? I never said how my other teammates should behave. Im confused at what youre talking about.>I've seen a team reload.I never once mentioned team reloading.
>>553138012if you were smart you'd realise Mox needs a higher percentage of players to win than Omicron got, so it's not gonna happenvega bay is the only way to stop it: it's actually a feasible gambit for a change (as well as a better plan for the MO anyway) but i'm not gonna do the gay algebra to figure out what percentage of people who aren't too dumb to notice would need to participate to win in the 20 hours we'll have left once K is finished
>>553161671Still gaming? I might jump in
>>553170478Hey man he's saving it for the second bile titan that hasn't spawned yet
>>553170432And I'd do it again just to make you seethe, little timmycel.
sveeden.... vy is ze sway on the light pen mmr so high?
>>553170432>Not part of the HivemindLmfao look at this mindcel
>>553170568So people don't use the stim pistol. People don't use team reload. How many examples of failed jolly cooperation do you need before it is obviously this player base is not interested in joint effort weapons if they are not massively powerful. Or if it is beneficial to the team it is something easy to use and in this self also self serving like the supply pack. Or shield bubble. Stim pistol cannot even heal themselves. If it isn't an easy after thought. Like with the warrant lock-on gimmick. It will be left to die on the shelf of abandoned slop guns.
>>553171069>
>>553171246>How many examples of failed jolly cooperation do you need before it is obviously this player base is not interested in joint effort weaponsWhy are you pretending like using the stim pistol is some incredibly involved weapon like team reloading. You just shoot people.
I'm from Angel's Venture and I say kill 'em all!
>Using the stim pistol according to anons in this thread: 5 hour congress meeting>Using the stim pistol in reality: you shoot them
>>553171415Then why haven't I seen one in like 10 months
>>553171704The same reason its so rare to see someone share their support pack.
>come into thread>schizophreniaYou fucking losers. Come and play the game. steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244361533659/76561198120804312Democracy decides.
>>553171627>reducto ad absurdumThanks for the bad faith argument. Your concession has been noted.
>>553171782Why? It is so easy to see when an ally is low on ammo. Like you said. You have such eagle eyes it is nothing to see who is hurt and who needs healing. We should see supply sharing and stim pistols everywhere.
>>553171838I'm shy desu
>>553171856>Using a fallacy instead of actually debatingFallacys are meant to be a guideline to help you debate. Not as some win all "gotcha" moment. If you understand a fallacy but cant debate it, then you lost the argument.Also you were the one that compared shooting someone with the stim pistol to team reload.
>>553171704Because the swedes decided pulling it out suddenly gives your Helldiver crippling Parkinsons and the grip of a toddler.
>>553114959i used the supply pack bug
Ded gayme
>>553171838FVLL
objectively coziest loadout for every faction. Speargun and supply pack not pictured.
>>553172226>noo you have to let me misrepresent your argument because i cant beat you on my own merits! You forfeited any right to a debate when you violated the social contract. Ive already accepted your concession. We have nothing left to discuss.
>>553171856>>553172226These two anons are having the sloppiest gay sex right now
>>553173125Okay, tell me where I'm wrong. Tell me that simply shooting someone with the stim pistol isnt how you use it. I want to hear how you use it.
have you ever met a heal slut?met one for the first time todaywas happy, well and fed all mission. we didnt even call resupplywas my first experience being stim pistoled
>>553171704confrimed for never playing with hdgthere is at least one hdg anon in the last week or so that regularly uses stim pistol>>553171782confrimed for never being in a lobby with me cause i alway share my supplies (unless i get separated and left behind) and always run it outside of eliminate or bricks>>553173264confrimed for they are gay homo NIGGERS that do not play game and just have gay erp sessions in the general
>>553174028>confrimed
>>553174028hahahahh confrimeddon't worry bimbo typing must be hard with those long nails of yours
>>553174139yes thats right it means i have affrimated the infro to be trve
>lose bot bricks because the drop waves of hulks and war striders right infront of the objectiveI miss hive worlds already.
>>553141170>Scorcher is still the best gun in the gamethat would be coyote, you can brainlessly move from left to right of a hunter patrol and you kill everything
>>553173351>be wounded and out of stims>press v>my helldiver doesn't say "I need stims!" because I have a broken arm or something and the groaning interrupts my voicelines>get in front of teammates hoping they'll see the prompt>they ignore me
>>553174297skill issuefar drops only happen if you let a trooper rush you and launch the flare
>>553174297should have brought the cuckchair, rr, commando and eat
>>553173351>have 1 point of damage>team healslut launches 12 shots at me while i stand still trying to heal methey should make the darts home in on teammates
>>553174398there's a button to ask for stims?also i wouldnt even know cause my games voicepack is set to german, which i dont understand
>>553174398i wasnt even begging. this was an s tier healslutammo and backpack always magically topped off without me even realizing it happened
>>553142681>>553144280gucci plays Slop Raiders...?
>>553174589>there's a button to ask for stims?If you're out of stims and try to heal you'll say/scream "out of stims" or "I need stims">my games voicepack is set to german, which i dont understandWhat
>Stim pistol can't even lock onto friendlies >Meanwhile the REP-80 in HD1
>>553172896must be good on difficulty negative 10000
>>553174864Predict how mind broken the nerf indians will be if Arrowhead add this to the game>SAAR THIS IS LITERALLY INFINITE HP GOD MODE CHEAT NERF IT RIGHT NOW
>>553174864WHERE IS MY MOTHER FUCKING LUMBERER ALREADY YOU SWIGGER CUNTS?!
>>553174839oh, i changed the stim button to m4>Whati didnt like the english voice acting cause it was gay and reddit so i tried the others and while the french one isnt too bad, the german just adds that little extra kino, you know? im sure to a french or german respectively its just as bad as the english but i am neither, so i like it
>>553174864Uhh that's space magic dude, can't have that
>>553175093would cause a mass suicide to prevent losing jizzat over
>>553174916self expose, typical
>>553175224https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGpFEv1-mAoNeed arrowhead locked in a room with Gabe newell for a day
>>553175098Sirs we are figuring out method to make more mechs into destroyer loadout sir fuck bloody before I have dinner just you wait sir
>>553175791>Santa stopped making video games after HL2grimonly if they're strapped to chairs that send just barely sublethal shocks to the swiggers everytime they try to talk back or make swigger suggestions
>>553175791The top comment stood out to me:>"We added bullet holes in the game not because it's realistic but because it reinforces the idea that you, the player, have impact on the environment you're playing in and that is where fun is drawn from."Fucking hell imagine if Swedes had this kind of wisdom instead of MUH REALISTIC CARTRIDGES AND BALANCE
>>553176471The only fault I can give valve is that they playtest a bit too much. It gives the uhhh troubled gamers unintentional influence over the final product.
>>553176471go play deadlock and see nu-valves idea of a good game then retard
>>553176229>"Whats Portal 2?"
>>553176471Arrowhead doesnt know what good balance is. Everything they do is in the name of "realism" but if you asked them why they think its good for the game, they wouldnt be able to tell you without falling back on their vaguely described grunt fantasy or something similar
>>553175093>Can heal teammates through their shield>Can heal emplacements/turrets >Can heal vehiclesIt would fry their brains on the spot And there's a drone version
>>553176705I have hundreds of hours in it and it's easily one of the best PvP games ever made. In fact the only one I've bothered to play in years. So what now faggot? Mad you got diffed?
if the game is too easy to have fun raise the difficulty by leaving
>Brown hours>bufftranny posting dramatically increasesHmm....I'm noticing.
>>553171956>it is so easy to see when an ally is low on ammonta but the hud lies about ammo count
>>553180358it's not particularly difficult to figure out that red flashing ammo icon on your hud means>this guy is getting lowbut then again, this is /hdg/
>>553180903faggot, the icon has never functioned as intended and will flash red when the guy is completely topped off
>>553181775works fine on my machine
sex with the bugs
>>553181775>when the guy is completely toppedAre you gay or something?
>>553181973a thirsty man sees only water
>Haven't used the Warrant in a while wonder why>...>Oh yea that's why
>>553182619I almost always take it on squids.
>3% of players on squidsB R A V O
>>553183057they kinda suck to fight desu
>>553182763That or bugs I guess. But I'd rather just have the senator. It's autotracker doesn't feel that fun to use sense it just aims for center mass rather than the head or something. I'd say make it fun like titanfall's smart pistol but that's too much for Arrowhead.
>>553183180I kind of like them because I don't have to bring any AT or AP4 unlike bots and bugsI can just go full dakka to shit on all their units and I appreciate that
>>553183057>>553183180*noclips away at mach 2 whilst hitting you with pinpoint accuracy*
>>553184202>I enjoy the most brainless faction
>squids added over 3 years ago>only ever got two new units and half a mission
>>553184242Those little doodads aren't even the problem, it's the goddamn chaff that has a 25% chance of stunlocking you to death in a 1v1And also half the map being city areas... with a hundred POIs that are literally nothing marked inside an indestructible building
>>553184316The game is only approaching its second anniversary, you don't have to make shit up to hate on Squids.
>squids added 17 years ago>fleshmobs got jetpacks and nothing else
>>553184505>with a hundred POIs that are literally nothing marked inside an indestructible buildingwat
>>553184247They're my least favorite but I do enjoy fighting them once in a while even if they're the easiest faction
>>553184505Voteless lock on attack pisses me off. It's so lazy and annoying.>Oh you dodged around that voteless?>Sorry voteless can defy physics and their melee attack has a tractor beam.
>HD1 Squids>Least played because they're the hardest>HD2 Squids>Least played because they're the most boring and janky to fight What a fall from grace
>>553184618I assume he's talking about that one poi on city corners that is never accessible.
>>553183057squids gameplay consists of a bullet sponge harassing you while another enemy shoots you freely; you prestim and mindlessly M1 the fuckers, which ultimately results in it feeling like shit to play
>>553185893>Shoot Watcher>Respawns behind me, still aggro, tries to flare>This repeats two more times instantly, until it manages to respawn behind a rock, breaking line of sight, where it can safely call-in>This happens every other Watcher
>>553185559
>>553186902?
>>553185425They're also boring in HD1 to be desu
>>553186964Don't engage, it's a nerftroon baiting posts at random.
>>553186964I think anon is referencing the period where this webm would get posted every single thread just to farm (you)s
>>553185425>>Least played because they're the hardestNo thats because they were fucking boring too
>>553105792I've played the truck mission on d10 easily 40 times and have only had this happen once. Nuking the nursery however is a coinflip on whether the drill gets dropped on the roof or not.
>>553105792dont stand next to the truck retard
libconc needs to be nerfedultimatum and xbow need buffs
>>553188593trvth nvke
>>553188593real
>>553188593
>>553108835Ah yes, the story of Starbound.
>>553184242Imagine still crying about an enemy that has been nerfed into irrelevance.
>watch a sloptuber recap the christmas dev interview>dev: we don't want to increase difficulty by just making enemies have more health>what he meant: enemies won't have health adjusted by difficulty>what the sloptuber thought he meant: there will be no enemies with large health pools>nobody in the comments points this out, they just bitch and moan that every gun should have heavy pen and that they can't play any higher than D5Shame the game went mainstream on launch.
>>553187417>farm (you)sDo people here really get a euphoric boost when someone replies to their post?
>>553190051where do you think you are?
>>553190079You know what, fair enough
>>553189585>being ok with enemies that clip through solid objectsglazer faggot
>>553190010>Shame the game went mainstream on launch.On the flip side, got lots of memes and content about one of my favorite game setting, also we'll probably get content for years to come.On the other side, yeah. Fuck all these normalfags and youtube grifters who jumped on the bandwagon.
>PP for maximum stagger >Medigun>Gas grenades>Medi armor for 6 stim>Ammo pack>Shield gen>zap mortar >EAT-17Full support mommy build. Everything to open up the enemy to friendies to kill, stagger locking dangerous mid threats like heavy devs and commanders, protection, distraction with gas, tons of extra stims and ammo, and free AT disposables for sharing and caring.
>>553190342the youtubers almost make /hdg/ look moderate by comparison. The guys that just post gameplay clips are just having fun and are a good watch. Then you've got the guys that get mad at shit that was fixed a year ago, willfully misinterpret things, calls anyone who points this out a "glazediver" (read: swedecuck), or post AI generated lore with no basis in anything, it's a fucking mess.I can understand a fair bit of complaints about the game but these fuckers act like everything is a personal attack against them and their idea of how the game should be instead of how the game is intended to be.
>>553190925>stim pistolFuck this piece of shit that (still) doesn't shoot straight. Trying to hit someone with it has to be the worst experience in the whole game.
>>553190990>these fuckers act like everything is a personal attack against them and their idea of how the game should bethis is unironically how izzat works
>>553190990who was the cunt who got mad because he basically got blacklisted by arrowhead and was mad as fuck about it because of course, he was entitled to all the insider shit !!!
Squid front status?
>>553191142Eravin
>>553191172Dick = Unzipped
>>553191172the gloves are coming off
>>553190925>this retard is staggering shit so i cant hit weakspots>this retard is shooting at me and getting killed constantly from behind>this retard is staring right at the warrior mauling my ass instead of killing it>this retard is throwing gas so i can't push into the objective>this retard spent 3 minutes running in circles killing 0 enemies and doing 0 objectives>god damnit im out of ammo again, wish i brought supply pack>fucking mortar is stunlocking me, uh oh here comes a cannon tower / dragon roach!!!!! FUCK MORTAR NIGGERS AAAAAAAAA>fucking finally that retard killed 1 (one) hulk with an EAT holy shit this guy has been useless for the entire mission
>>553191185Yeah, this faggot. Makes me feel absolutely smug to see how mad he is about it too.
>>553191463Well now I am specifically going to use this build until we get grouped together best buddy ^^
>>553191142Arrowhead jerked him around though.
>>553192137Oh i know Arrowhead are a bunch of cunts too. But i have zero sympathy for the vast majority of """""content creators"""""
>>553192137good, fuck that misinformation spreading faggot
>>553192334What did he say that was wrong?
>>553192586I think the only thing he said that was wrong was that the Coyote had an attachment it never had in game, I forgot which one exactlyThere's also an older example last year when urban legends came out that peak physique only affected melee weapons if you actually press the melee button
>>553192586>liberation impact bullshit>the melee buff only works with the melee hotkey attacks
>>553192735>There's also an older example last year when urban legends came out that peak physique only affected melee weapons if you actually press the melee buttonwtf I've been lied to
>>553192901>>the melee buff only works with the melee hotkey attackswait that was a lie ? I wasn't hating him hard enough, damn.
>>553192995do you never test stuff by yourself?
>>553193361i only use melee weapons to fuck around and i don't actually use the armors that have a damage boost for them so i wasn't concerned. But that would typically the kind of shit Arrowhead could pull off so i'd believe it
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