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OLGA FATIGUE
Nobody took notice of her boobs before
draco is PHH history
OLGA WIFE
>>553119074She was always big, I don't get why people are surprised now
>>553117186>product of the third magicSo what does it mean?Marisbury was loser magus who can only accomplish something thanks to money and used guns instead of spells to fight (likely can't even cast a spell)And yet he somehow achieved the third magic? Without even grail?
>>553118981The ride has stops but you can never get off
More Galahad and Lilith please
>>553119074H.A.G.
>>553119169>>553119074Blind fandom lmao same happen to homate
FGObros...
>>553119394Homete got a huge meat upgrade between her Assassin and Summer versions.
>>553119312But Mushroom just said that all my noticing and theorycrafting never mattered and after I was just about done with TM he drops this shit. I'm tired boss.
>>553119240>And yet he somehow achieved the third magic? Without even grail?To be fair, so did the einzberns. The point of the grail was never JUST third magic, it was creating a system to properly give all of humanity third magic. Daybit also pulled a gun on marisbury so i'm not sure how indicative of anything that is
>>553119240>(likely can't even cast a spellBro, Wodime almost certainly learned Animusphere magecraft from him
>>553119552>To be fair, so did the einzberns.The Einzbern ancestor is the one to discover the Third Magic in the first place. It's hardly unexpected that one of the preeminent magus families descended from the one who achieved the magic still has some access to to the magic.
Sex with Marisbury while Olga has to watch
>>553119591Me on the right when my wife asks me to dress up fancy for dinner:
>>553119548It did matter though. You were right to pay attention to maris' profile, the clock, the remaining wing, holmes (the final line in the after time is suspicious even in japanese) etc,That segment was almost entirely saying "good job now you get reality instead of the dream"
since nasu actually did another ending i'm obligated by contract to read mahoyois the steam thing good enough?
>>553119765Yes
>>553119702well yes but my point is the point of the grail was never to JUST get third magic, they already had that, it was to viably give salvation to all humanity by making them immortal. The plan in apocrypha was straight up what the grail was made for in the first place
>>553119765It kind of butchers the scene where Aoko unlocks the 5th, but I also kind of remember it being Nasu Schizo Babble in Japanese anyway.
>>553119835Funny how Jeanne ruined humanity's future by stopping it.
Damn angel of execution needs correction
>>553120054FVARK roided guda even learned master roshi's special move
Famous writer who made huge lore contributions to the nasuverse Barbara Walker passed away last month.Let's honor her memory by citing your favorite lore by her. For me it's Medusa being a aspect of Athena.
>>553120006the implication is that humanity wasn't ready for it and would have stagnated into being pruned. Humanity is eventually supposed to degrade the third magic into a science but apocrypha was too soon
>>553119462aru and olgaboth perfect wives
>>553120203Was she also behind the whole Odin drinking cum thing?
>>553119583I dunno, he used gun vs Daybit, he used gun vs BluebookHe never attends Lords meetings in Case Files, literally his seat is empty, like he is weak magus and hides itIs it confirmed he can perform magic at all?All of his experiments are "scientific" (made by AI/computers) even if he knows about magic
>Nasu's dastardly plan to make people like Olga was a success He can't keep getting away with it.
>>553120054LolBecause there were just 8 pillars?I can't remember names of the 8 too, only Amon, Forneus, Andormalius and Flauros.
>>553120054>Gudako is a shitty female here in ChaldeaWhat the hell is this slander to best protagonist?
>>553120276Wasn't it implied that he completely gave up on Cock Tower only after he learned that Grail was corrupted?
I need images. Images of the director's massive tits.
do we know who shot bluebook and why?
>>553120276>He never attends Lords meetings in Case Files, literally his seat is emptyThat's wrong, though? Olga attends in his stead, we literally see her PoV during some of the grand roll chapters in case files
>>553120580>特異点でエネミーに犯されても、何度も失神するほどアクメしまくる。(そして体は無傷)He's right
>>553120043>best servants to use on an endgame content grand duel were a crappy 4* that's been on the game since launch and a meh 3*Azraelbros...
>>553120782Retardbro...
>>553120697Maris shot himYes it's retarded
>>553120697It was Maris
Imagine how lucky her baby will besucking on them for almost a whole yearAnd you won't
>>553120836Anon said that his seat is empty, which is just false. Also several lords didn't actually attend that grand roll, it was not all 12
So will she null Reset ending and give us better ending?
>>553121143Who knows you're still going back to being a uni student going off the bond CE if that's the route they end up at
So why do we like the director now?
So is anyone going to call out how ridiculously suspicious it is that the finale spent so much time emphasizing that LB0 being pruned will remove its existence across time and erase all memories and evidence that it happened, and now we're back in 2019 with our memories?Which one is it? Does LB0 cease to exist in its entirety from inception to end, or did it still happen and the door is only closed as of 1/1/2020 00:00:00.000?
>>553121267She saved us from the reset ending.
reposting because dracofags are in denial about their fanfic wife>>553118050Literally Arcade? She could only mature and become a Beast because she ate the wishes of Chaldea to 'save the world.'Her method was to copy the incineration which CANNOT exist in PHH according to Maris.>>553118801She never became a beast that way. she was an evil of humanity, but arcade made her a larva beast and a mature one. Stop being retarded.>>553118662Because Nasu couldn't spoil everything was a Lostbelt retard. Tiamat was also a Lostbelt beast but at the time she was considered PHH one.her entire fucking 'world' is called the same as lbs, same fucking term olga's using for both. she's a LOSTBELT BEAST.
>>553121387Gods work in mysterious ways and Olga is now one.
>>553121387Just further reconfirms the way maris left the stage was suspicious really nothing much to talk about there
>>553120487I think this one's my favorite of the Olga's that keep getting posted
Soon....
>>553121267>now
If Aftertime Chaldea is timelocked, does that mean if we can get Daybit in there he'll remember everything that goes on in this one year of Beast Hunting since its within his five minutes limit
>>553120805Was she actually used as a damage dealer instead of a buffer?
Arthur and you after defeating Manaka and her fuck ass beast
>>553121387It's the same thing as Daybit, to an outside observer, like someone on the throne or Avalon, then all the events happened and they are remembered. Those are of course beings that shouldn't interact with humanity in the first place but if something related happens then they will become relevant.
Mashu and Guda with all memories will be copied and pasted into another bodies. The story will be continue with those while the originals will follow the ending and live normal lives.
>>553121843No, one is relative time and the other is time as a coordinate
In my opinion, the only Beasts that can reach the Beast class in PHH are the Beasts of the Planet. Alaya will decide that the rest are human incidents that "cannot exist" or acknowledge. They would destroy human history and fuck Alaya up, but if they are stopped, they can snip and look to another side.That's why Daji's shittery counts, she's likely a Beast of the Planet since she's a foxface (true).
>>553121267she's kinda cute nowand it is a fun idea to sexually harass your director, you couldn't do that with Gordy
How many cocks has she tasted in the new timeline?
>>553122148Yeah, but also anyone connected to Manaka. Ozzy was scared shitless of Manaka, not to face 666 (which is merely her Servant). She's called a "natural born evil of humanity" which makes her unique.
>>553121862bro...the charm...
>>553120203This thread is a good enough memorial for her.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/440639267/
>>553122343She's a renowned in kabukicho
>>553121531>She never became a beast that way. she was an evil of humanity, but arcade made her a larva beast and a mature one. Stop being retarded.Anon. Please fucking thing. How does a woman dying at the edge of her own knife see another world 1940 years away within a lostbelt? Do you think it just kind of happened on its own?
>>553122343shes a OnlyFans queen
>>553122564name*
Sex with Okita
>>553122392I know that it reduces his action counter by 1 and de-activates the IK attack, but I didn't need that as I just picked a support ST, placed them first and used the black uniform's dodge on themWhat else did she do?
No...
Sex with Gensai okita can watch
Gudako is a slut (pure)
>>553121531Draco Is a PHH beastNasu explicitly said thisAre you retarded?
>>553123000>Kirsch in backgroundlmao, fujo ship her with every Crypter
>>553123051Damn Tez got upgraded to Kirsch
>>553123039>nasu said this when every beast was phh retard.you're fucking stupid. she could not become a beast without chaldea, and goetia, therefore she is not phh.
>>553122669>How does a woman dying at the edge of her own knife see another world 1940 years away within a lostbelt? Do you think it just kind of happened on its own?Evil of humanity =/= Beast, LEARN THE DIFFERENCE. She LITERALLY only materialized as Sodom in the ENDING of arcade, even after Babylon she remained a LARVA.Which she only could do BECAUSE OF THE INCINERATION (larva), and the wishes o save the world from chaldea (maturity). Even Tamamo suspects something is wrong.
Is Lilith still worth rolling for in the year of our lord 2026Its like 70% a dickroll
>>553123437Draco was a beast the moment she defied death. Again, Nasu confirmed she is PHH. Are you mentally ill?
>>553123967Worth in what sense?Roll for whoever you like, who cares
>>553123581Where is it stated that the incineration made her a larva?
>>553121267See picture
>>553124258So cute...
just gotta farm archer and rider duel it's so close..
Enkidu? For me
Kinda pathetic voluptuous late 20s/early 30s women became the hot new trend in anime and manga. Olga miraculously came back at just right time.
>>553124165In fucking Babylon? She achieve that state thanks to those dragons she has larping as demon gods because the'world' recognize the scar the demon gods gave it = create singularity when they appear. Also in one of those false demon gods slides.If the world recognizes the scar, then it's not taken place in real history which should be obvious when Chaldea is there. Because PHH doesn't acknowledge the incineration incident.All this process is being observed by beast vii (Mashu's profile/bond ce) and even Proto Memelin said mashu and guda will forget this adventure. Another hint.Taking Nasu's word as proof she is "PHH" is retarded when at the time he was pretending all Beasts but Camazotz were from PHH. He wasn't going to spoil the twist of his story.I am agreeing with that guy above: that the planet beasts probably get acknowledged because they operate outside humanity while PHH ones will get not acknowledged.
>>553124841>Olga>only “kinda pathetic”You’re too kind to her.
so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........................................................... guda has 1 hand grip strenght of 1planet????
>>553123581>Evil of humanity =/= Beast, LEARN THE DIFFERENCEThere is no meaningful difference.
>>553124276Is Nightingale fucking shooting herself in the head in that picture pinned to the wall?
>>553122319>and it is a fun idea to sexually harass your director, you couldn't do that with GordyIf you're a coward.
>>553125041
>>553124841It's really funny how in the timelines in which Moneybills abandons her, she's way more confident and everything generally goes better for her.
>>553121267I always liked her. Tsunderes are the best
>>553125041Herc could never
>>553125015
>>553125041She only weighs 10,000 tons actually.
Holy shit U-Olga looks so outdated
anything but mashu please i beg you
>>553125736Well yeah she was drawn 6 years ago and was deliberately meant to look over the top and goofy ("trying too hard" was literally her design document). Of course Takeuchi was able to improve on a deliberately crippled design.
>>553119074>>553119169the fur and rope made them seem smaller by covering them
>>553120276>vs DaybitMore like vs himself. Animusphere magecraft is weak in the modern world, and Daybit had his AYYYs, so he knew he wasn't winning that one.>vs BluebookPutting aside that it supposedly wasn't him, Chaldea Bluebook was a dying, starving man, so blasting him with meteors was pointless anyway.
>>553125920Yeah I know but Takeuchi redrew Muramasa and Kirei for their playable versionsOh well whatever it's a non issue anyway
>>553125065She's just summoning her persona
>>553125736She looks better
>>553125045evils of humanity are candidates for beast.
>>553126372Honestly I kinda agree, her proportions are better, the eyes of the 2nd ascension one are too big
>>553126419Once you're a candidate for an open slot, the world basically says it's yours, fully evolved or not. Koyanskaya didn't even want it and because Beast IV was open and she qualified she became beasty.
>>553126594>Koyanskaya didn't even want itI thought she wanted it to survive, since her being a newly born nature spirit that no one could even acknowledge, meant she was not gonna last that long.
>>553126616Dantes?Also is this Roman or Lev?
>>553126810Thats romani olga and marisbilly bro get your eyes checked
>>553126609Rip purple Rin
>>553126897You know that Lev looks like Romani too right?I thought the right one was Dantes
I choo everyone here (no homo)https://x.com/dnchuu12/status/2008877626698678356?s=20
guda should punch a beasttwice
>>553127231Lil bit tho
>>553124954She never said any of this, especially not on Babylon. You just frankenstein’d a whole bunch of nonsense together. Cite exactly where Draco became a larva in arcade timeline
>>553127240Guda, you -are- the final beast.
>>553127240The superior director punched a Beast once. It was actually scared enough to dodge.
>>553127469Time to punch themselves out
https://x.com/ckomock/status/636505120767799296>2015I kneel
>>553127612Respect to her she's been on the train for 10 years
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>>553127760Glorious nippon art
>>553127548gof punch is simply too powerful
>>553127760>>553127028When you can rock both goku body type and twink
>>553121267 We don't. Is just cultists coping
>ORT running on full autopilot, casually warped space to deflect the rayproof>Maris despite being the godlike 700000 IQ supercomputer just autistically screeched when the eggplant opened fire with basically the same weaponFinal boss, everyone. Imagine if Ordeal Stall didn't happen, and this came right after ORT?
>>553128540>this little interaction between Olga and Azrael generated more art than the whole ending
Blessed weekly ticket
>>553125041>guda has 1 hand grip strenght of 1planet????Yes.So does Mashu and the blessed unbreakable rope of Chaldea
>>553129504Don't forget, Mashu was LOSING her Servant powers as this was going on. Maybe Humans really are the most OP.
>>553119074Silver and gold won't gain much attention when hidden below a table cloth. People care about what they can see.
>>553128876>Imagine if Ordeal Stall didn't happenMaris was easier than OC2 Nito, Wild Hunt, and Cagliostro. Also easier than OC3 Kiara and the ultimate Moon Cancer. And the b2b Lilith & Galahad fight.The hardest thing in LB0 was the Kirei fight, which was a fucking lottery pull to see how many times you'd have to gamble on his revives. Maris may as well have been a QTE cutscene boss.I don't believe for a second that Marisbury himself is actually dead without some kind of Chaldeas counterpart to replace him. Especially after they made such an extensive, heavy handed point about how much he loves hiding.
>>553129504HOLY FVAAAAAAARKKKK SO THAT'S WHY GOETIA DISINTEGRATED WITH THOSE PUNCHES
>>553124954>In fucking Babylon? She achieve that state thanks to those dragons she has larping as demon gods because the'world' recognize the scar the demon gods gave it = create singularity when they appear.why did chaldea have enkidu as ally in arcade?answer this
>>553121387>Tree count increases back to 1 at the last secondLB0 didn't actually close, we're currently in the bizarro "Far Side" world.
HOLY SHIT I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING THE BLACK CAT ON SUMMER ABBY’S SHOULDERIS THAT NIGGER MAN?
I genuinely feel like we're getting the first chapter this month.While it can be an event, this configuration needs to debut in a standard chapter first to see how it works. Just dropping an event from nowhere would require them to explain a few things best left for a main story chapter
>>553129774How did Moneybills become such at expert at hide and seek????
>>553121531>Because Nasu couldn't spoil everything was a Lostbelt retard. Tiamat was also a Lostbelt beast but at the time she was considered PHH one.Okay tell me where nasu said she's from a lostbeltno? he never said this? he said she's from PHH you say? good then she's from PHH until nasu EXPLICITLY says itnasu's words > your words, that's it.
>>553129504>yoked Mashu and GudaI need more.
>>553121267I always liked Olga.Tsundere+Girlfailure.
>>553129774>how much he loves hiding.Someone should make a Saddam Hussein meme with the guy
>>553129774Is this Daybit's hand?
>>553129774>The hardest thing in LB0 was the Kirei fight, which was a fucking lottery pull to see how many times you'd have to gamble on his revives. You just have to use Solomon to debuff Kirei and prevent him from using Guts, retard.
>>553130849It's Olga's. Those are her red gloves.
>>553124954What are you blabbing about? First, Draco says almost nothing about herself in Babylon. We barely have any idea who she is. So, already, I'm getting red flags. Second, Sodom in her singularity, says that she as a beast cannot scar the world, only humans can. This has nothing to do with her origins or whatever the fuck. What she is saying is that beasts are strong because humanity makes them strong. It is humans that create beasts, so beasts destroy the world because of humanity. She is referencing a chain of events starting with human power. It's has nothing to do with world lines or planetary-class or whatever the fuck. It is a hint to humans being the main source of strife in the world.Draco never once mentioned becoming a larva from Arcade. She rose to the level of a planetary-class beast because of Arcade. Tamamo implies that a Larva beast 6 should not be that strong. But that's just power-levels. It doesn't explain or state how or when she became a beast. Lilim Harlot in the FGO event is what explains how she became a beast.Narration:—How could I forgive this?Narration:It matters not if they would denounce us as a tyrant—or the Whore of Babylon.Narration:If that be so, we will be the Beast mankind wishes us to be.Narration:Every last thing. Far and wide. Anything and everything.Narration:–Every city, every trace of Rome, shall be razed wholly. Utterly. Fully. Completely.We had no idea how Draco's origins made sense before this, but this is it. She was a beast upon inception, thus she is a PHH beast. Nasu confirmed this.>>553130257Same as every other servant you find in singularities. He was just there. Probably chain summon by the counterforce.
I hope Marisbury appears again in the story so he can explain his retarded motives
I started the game In late 2015, before London. I ended up dropping it along the way. So... what happens now? Are we done?
>>553131603hahahahahaha
>>553131537His original vision is likely just Servant Universe>swap real root with his root>update the universe to the universe that good for humanitySU started with Universe Update, and humans there are immortal Servants that respawn after being killedThen Maris decided to turn humans in apes because she didn't understand them, started Lostbelts etc.
>>553131537He just wanted Solomon to notice him uwu.
>>553131350>Narration:>–Every city, every trace of Rome, shall be razed wholly. Utterly. Fully. Completely.>We had no idea how Draco's origins made sense before this, but this is it. She was a beast upon inception, thus she is a PHH beast. Nasu confirmed this.None of that happened in PHH thus Lostbelt fanfic.>Nasulied because he was hiding it was all lostbelt.
>>553131537He was making a world where humans would exist forever. Not as gods, not as enlightened beings, but as humans. With no end of time or the world, an eternity of tomorrows, living and dying, a universe of one planet, existing unto eternity.
>>553132504Anon, you're literally just saying random shit at this point. Lostbelt 0 is a result of Marisbury winning his grail war. Who the hell told you that the flashback you're seeing here is from that timeline? She would have been existing literally 1900+ years before that divergence.Are you stupid?
>>553119240>loser magusSion glazes him as better than Zepia in his genius. What the fuck are you talking about? Even Kirsch said Marisbilly is a ridiculously powerful monster as a magus. He only needed money to afford the cost.
>>553132717Prime example of Fate fans reading a bunch of wiki summaries and coming to the most insane conclusions. And when you quote them wrong with the source, they say someone has to be lying and refuse to change their minds.It's not uncommon but it's so damn prevalent in Type Moon community.
>>553132107That was Kirsch. Marisbury was a Gundam morally grey antagonist.
>all that fuss yesterday>nothing happenedWas that it? First they did the wait until the 31st but seem to have decided to dump things at a later date, sure fine, but now another dead week? Really? Are they that disorganized they can't even properly release their new content properly? What bullshit is that.
>>553121143She literally says her goal is to bring you back to your future salaryman life.
ohohoho imagine marisbury pleasing old men for money if he didn't win the war and survived
>>553133290>but now another dead week? Really?Yes. Now we're at business as usual, anon. Get ready for some kinda bullshit collab event that nobody cares about and another literally who nippon banzai servant who will never be mentioned again.
>>553133247He is morally grey because he sacrificed crypters and the experimentsBut his ideals were good, but twisted by Maris
>>553130456>'what if'>all what if are now lostbelt according to the lore>uses incinernation copy and chaldea to become a beast>all from lb>MERLIN said mashu and guda won't remember shit from arcade aka it never happenedhmmm not sir, she's TOTALLY phh.
>>553133290We expected nothing until the 17th, what we got yesterday is actually really promising for the stream itself since they have a lot to build upon.We have left arc 2 for good, this is an entire uncharted territory unlike Ordeal Stall.
you complain about the doomkeks, but the eos timeline was better than this
>>553133459>But his ideals were good... his ideals were destroying the entire fucking universe.That part wasn't Maris's idea. Daybit figured it out, Marisbury seemed well aware of it too.
>>553132717>She would have been existing literally 1900+ years before that divergence.>Are you stupid?Are you? Tiamat and Goetia are older th
>>553133567Retarded doomkek
>Director, I LOVE YOU!!!How would she react
>>553130314>he didn’t roll for niggerman
>>553133290Yesterday was a pleasant surprise.
gachafags really love licking that asshole, don't they
>>553133625Alaya was fine with destroying the universe though.Hey even Gaia was (Morgan didn't give a single fuck).It was the whole "hollow" shit that only Daybit noticed what was the issue.
>>553133715Tiamat only gets the Beast II crown when she returns from imaginary space and decides "humans are scary, let's replace them".Goetia is Beast I but he just sort of shuts down after Flauros decides "nah this shit's gay" at the last minute. Flauros has overwhelming influence over the Goetia collective.
>>553133746She'd be SPOOKED
>>553133715Yes they are.Did these two become beasts before marisbury's grail war?Did they come specifically from a world line within PHH?Y: They're PHH beastsN: They're not PHH beasts.Fortunately, this has fucking nothing to do with how Draco was born.
>>553133913Counter Forces are ASSHOLES anon.
>>553132850That's just an old /frog/ schizo brought back by the finale. 'Marisbury had a gun and we never saw his cast anything so he's not a mage' and 'Olga isn't Marisbury's daughter but a random girl who's in love with him and pretends to have his last name' are his biggest calling cards.
>>553133459I wonder how Marisbury made the A team agree to wage their lifes for the sake of his dumb ideals and plans. Especially more high profile mages Like Kirsch or a genius like Daybit. Well i can imagine Kadoc most likely had a depressive episode when he agreed lol
Why is Gramps Lily so gulphot?!
>>553133946Are you fucking stupid and have not read that the incineration and Chaldea, the BASIS Draco has to become a real Beast, are not PHH? So she, as a BEAST is a Lostbelt product, LIKE Tiamat and Goetia. It doesn't matter if her 'origin' isn't a LB (which is debatable, because Nasu using a what if which led to the destruction of rome which NEVER happened in PHH already gives you a fucking flag), her existence as a Beast IS from a Lostbelt. Like Kiara, Tiamat and Goetia. All of them were humanity evils too but it was thanks to the existence of Lostbelt 0 that could take that Crown. Draco is NO DIFFERENT.Ergo, NOT PHH Beast.DAJI and Primate Murder are the only confirmed PHH Beasts so far.
>>553133550I hope that the stream will mention a timeframe for the next chapter, but otherwise I just expect the same>1 hour of guests fucking around and shilling merchandise>15 minutes of popularity shitpost material>30 minutes of news on the next event
>>553134071The crypters part makes no sense with the new lore to be fairHe can just equip random mages with Sirius Light bombs instead of Kirsch, Pepe and other geniuses he met during travels. It barely makes sense to kill best of mages unless Sirius Light is something only strong mage can wield (but then again, he wanted to use Mash with it too, and she isn't genius mage but designer baby).
>>553134303>the incineration and Chaldea, the BASIS Draco has to become a real Beast,Chaldea is no basis for Draco. Substantiate your claim.
>>553134032Retard, Draco becomes a Beast in fucking 2017.She was a Humanity Evil beforehand. NOT a Beast. Humanity evils are CANDIDATES for the Beast throne but aren't beasts yet. She's a LOSTBELT Beast.
>>553132850>Even Kirsch said Marisbilly is a ridiculously powerful monster as a magus.Not the anon you replied to, but I don't remember Kirsch ever saying anything about Moneybills magic prowess.
>>553134451>Chaldea is no basis for Draco.PLAY ARCADE. FUCKING IDIOT.She became SODOM the REAL BEAST VI/S mature because she devoured the wishes of 'saving the world' FROM CHALDEA.NO chaldea = No Beast VI/S for that loser, just another crownless humanity evil. YOU DO UNDERSTAND humanity evil isn't beast right? they have the potential to BECOME a beast and Draco ONLY makes it thanks to Chaldea in fucking 2017 Arcade.
>>553133823I guess Takeuchi really liked Dungeon Meshi to copy that gist.
What is this autism? Draco is a PHH Beast, she literally manifested as one unlike Koyanskaya or Camazotz who both couldn't
>>553134471>Retard, Draco becomes a Beast in fucking 2017.Citation please.>She was a Humanity EvilCitation please.
>>553133746Worse than when you teased her about dating in LB6
>>553134756He said it in his final breaths to Caenis, when she was praising how impressive his sirius light powered strike was, and he said that it's nothing compared to monsters such as Moneybills. The glaze was on.
>>553134778They already did the Looney Tunes ending joke with U-Olga in LB7.
>>553134756if i remember correctly it was mentioned briefly in Olympus that Moneybills was really talented, ambitious and a very strong mage
>>553134965True enough, guess they wanted something a bit more fresh for the hip youngsters of today that they can connect to.
>>553134897You simp that whore and never read arcade? She only matures as Beast in the finale of Arcade which takes place in 2017 where she admits she could only did it by feeding on multiple Chaldea's wish to save the world.Now fuck off. Don't cite lore you don't get for your fanfic whore.
>>553119240Marisbury was a Clock Tower lord, you don't exactly keep a hold on that position without regularly killing assassins and magus hunters.
I wonder if this Summer will be 3 banners again or we're back to 2 + anni servant
>>553134768No. She matured as a result of Chaldea. It was never even hinted at that she became a beast because of Chaldea.>>553134858>>553133946On top of this, at what point does a beast's origins matter? Tiamat is from PHH. If she were to manifest in a lostbelt and become a beast, would that stop her from being a PHH beast? She is still native to PHH. It's like saying if you summon a servant from PHH into a lostbelt, then that servant must be a Lostbelt servant and native to that lostbelt. On the opposite end of the spectrum. It's never worked that way.On several levels, this guyis a fucking idiot.
>>553134858No. She isn't.Every single thing that was resulted from Lostbelt 0 creation, including Draco, is now considered a Lostbelt. AS LONG Chaldeas was functional, it could have been passed as "PHH" because it overlap, but once it shut down, it lose its footing.Read the finale.
>>553135290>No. She matured as a result of Chaldea. It was never even hinted at that she became a beast because of Chaldea.So she's not a real Beast, thanks for agreeing.
>>553135137>looks at Waver
>>553135131I read Arcade. You didn't, because you made up random shit about Sodom revealing her origins in Babylon, where she only gives barebones in details in her final singularity.Nowhere in arcade does Sodom say she became a beast in 2017 or that she became a beast because of Chaldea. She MATURED as a beast because of that, during that time. It doesn't she was born as oen then.So I'll ask again, cite exactly where Draco became a beast and when she was a humanity's evil, because last I checked, she said she was a beast during the thrice setting sun, about 1900 years back
>All this talk about Marisbury>Olga's mom has never been mentioned a single timeShe isn't a test tube baby like Mashu, who was Marisbury fucking
>>553135489A beast doesn't have to be mature.Kiara was never given the opportunity to mature in Seraphix, but she was still a beast. So no, we're not in agreement at all, you inbred.
>>553135290The origins don't matter as long as the Beast manifests.If it doesn't then it'd get pruned like the rest. If it manifests then it becomes a Beast for good and pruning does nothing to them.Kiara can just hop into another universe as we saw with OC3. Same would be for all the others like Kama, Draco, Tiamat, Goetia and so on.
>>553130314nigger man is so lucky...
>>553135642She is Saint Graph in human body, still an experiment
remember how the clock tower has a yearly list made by the studens which male they want to fuck the most and waver is like third on the list. I wonder who could be first or second
>>553135656None of that answered my question.At all.
>>553135494Waver doesn't have a magic crest that's centuries old or a body of research that could be used to summon otherworldly disasters and abominations beyond your wildest imagination.
>>553135745Take one look at Moneybills....
The angel of death fears the snek
>>553134059Alaya represents the true nature of humanity after all.
If PPP is our CCC then will part 3 be our Extella?
>>553135494Reines explicitly mentions having to fend off assassination attempts a lot and has her own made lunches because of poison attempts, iirc
>Olga is older than mebru
>>553135494Doesn't Waver minmax to a ridiculous degree exactly because he is so weak by comparisson?
>>553135856But he is a Lord and he's doing fine.
>>553136080It's less intentional minmaxing and more waver is just really good at reading the fate wik- I mean, he's an encyclopedia of knowledge and knows nearly everything!
>>553135642>anime and grown men having sex in JapanNot allowed. She's adopted.
>>553136045What a waste of meat, she should return to being a corpse.
>goredolf didn't get a proper sendoff
>>553135642>who was Marisbury fuckingSolomon, duh
>>553136041Probably Part 3 is AU Chaldea which works for CF
>>553135642Himself.
>>553136343He got a CG and a nice goodbye speech, what more did you want
>>553136080>>553136271I mean there was that one scene mentioning he intentionally grows out his hair, so he can use it as a magecraft catalyst or something in a pinch.
I think many of you need to seriously read the finale. Lostbelt 0 brought many anomalies. It doesn't really matter if Draco is allegly from PHH, it doesn't matter if Tiamat and Goetia are from PHH. Their maturity to turn from evils of humanity to Beasts happened thanks to the Lostbelt 0. That's why their entire existence and incidents are regarded as "never happened" as far as the universe goes. What was keeping that 'canon' was Maris Chaldeas. Once she deactivated, everything that happened thanks to Lostbelt 0 would have corrected itself. So Draco never became Beast VI/S, as Goetia and Tiamat didn't do it. Those events happened in a period that was rewritten by PHH.It's very important to understand this because Daji becoming a Beast did get acknowledged and why plenty of people is wondering what's the difference? The Scale? The incineration and bleaching fucked up more than a kingdom. Or is it because she's a Beast of the Planet? There's a special classification the Merlins and Fou have.Void Shiki in her event says she was effective against Alaya-born Beasts or at least could fight them, but she can't do shit against Gaia-Beasts.Since we MIGHT have Memelin or Fou as Beasts, some of us are trying to discern if this will become harder to retcon.That's why is better to avoid that from happening.Also the unknown factor that is Manaka. Manaka is the only being who is called a "natural born" humanity evil. Every other is made or nurtured, or grew to become that way. What makes Manaka different? Why is Ozzy shitting his pants when he sees her while he's indifferent to Draco, Maris, Tiamat or Goetia?
>Another year of fgoWhich Nip wank servant we getting next?
>>553136479Does that include pubes
>in case files it's mentioned that Marisbury very rarely left his territory and thus send Olga to stand in for him at Lord meetingsthe more i learn about him the funnier he gets
>>553136603>Their maturity to turn from evils of humanity to BeastsThis is a concept you have made up, and does not exist within the text of the narrative. Beasts are Beasts, whether they're immature or not doesn't deprive them of the title, only what they can do.Fou is Beast IV even without his horns.
>>553136649Unknown. You'd have to ask Reines.
>tfw your ovaries are drying up
>>553136603Aren't beasts general acausal, though? Like even if one lostbelt collapses, if they were a beast ever at any point they're always a beast, right? The only exception is goetia deleting himself to stop nega summon
>>553135512You're fucking mistaking Humanity Evil with Beast, you retard.All beasts are humanity evils, but not allhumanity evils mature as beasts. Draco without Chaldea and Goetia senpai to copy her homework never matures as Beast. So BEST VI/S is INDEED A LOSTBELT BEAST.
>>553136603>their entire existence and incidents are regarded as "never happened"It doesn't work like this with BeastsKiara was erased with CCC and she still recorded and existsBeasts are immune to thisOnly Maris "never happened" because she must be build first (and even then, it's possible that new arc is Maris Remnants)
>>553136672Abby goes well with the slooppa.
>>553136652Nigga got mindbroken by discovering that Grail was corrupted. Also it's funny the dude he hired for investigating 4th HGW decided to randomly infodump on fucking Rayshifting before dying.
>>553136343He's gonna be the main villain of Arc 3, that's why.
>>553136751>BEST VI/S is INDEED A LOSTBELT BEAST666 aka VI/whatever is a PHH beastWhich means VI/S is a PHH beastAs they are linked
>>553135642The mom.
>>553136603>Why is Ozzy shitting his pants when he sees her while he's indifferent to DracoIf you TRULY read arcade you'd know ozymandias got nodiffed by draco and chaldea had to defeat him to stop draco's mind control.''She doesn't fear draco'' absolute lie
BWEEEEEEEEEH
>>553136695>This is a concept you have made up, and does not exist within the text of the narrativeAre you retarded? We know Angra in the Grail is the evil of humanity of retribution but never hatches and becomes a Beast.There's literal lore to explain Beasts are SAINT GRAPHS/crowns evil of humanity obtain when they mature. Without the maturity, they aren't beasts.They are only evil of humanity. PHH ignores them as long as they don't mature.
>>553136603>It doesn't really matter if Draco is allegly from PHH, it doesn't matter if Tiamat and Goetia are from PHH. Their maturity to turn from evils of humanity to Beasts happened thanks to the Lostbelt 0. That's why their entire existence and incidents are regarded as "never happened" as far as the universe goes.Independent Manifestation: EA skill that allows one to manifest in the world without outside help. This Beast seems to be capricious, since she is satisfied with the destruction of a single city. This skill is also already exists in every space-time possible, so not only can the skill nullify any paradoxes resulting from time travel, but it can also nullify various Death-related attacks.
>>553136603Lostbelts were a retarded concept and this proves it.
>>553137181>PHH ignores them as long as they don't mature.PHH sent Demiya to kill Kiara who was larva
>>553137181Alaya send a counter guardian to kill Angra in Fate/Zero Accel Order
>>553136603That's not how it works at all, I think you should seriously read up on how this universe works.If a servant was recorded by the Throne, NOT Chaldea's summoning system, and/or if a servant manifested in a form that's outside space and time, like Beasts, the entire thing would change nothing.>Independent Manifestation (単独顕現) is a special Skill that permits unsupported manifestation into reality, without necessity of energy cost or of summoning by a Master; effectively, the Skill serves as an enhanced version of Independent Action. >This skill signifies a confirmed existence. Those with this skill have resistance to instant death and time-control attacks. The Skill is normally restricted to the Beast class>Chloe von Einzbern describes its effects as being akin to an inferior form of the Third Magic.
>>553136750That obviously is a misconception or Part 1 and 2 wouldn't have been retconed from existence and they are beasts cases bro. Kiara's shit in Seraphix also got retconned by the PHH.>>553136760CCC wasn't a Lostbelt and Kiara wasn't a Beast.
Olga's new design is a serious downgrade.
>>553136359wouldn't that be incest
>>553136479That’s something that’s been brought up multiple times in both FSN and Mahoyo that hair can store lots of magical energy that’s been built up over years.
So, is current Olga already the one from the third ascension of her playable servant? Or has she yet to become it?
>>553137323>Accel ZeroThat event was so fucking retarded. Why didn't Alaya do it in any other worldline?
>>553136751>You're fucking mistaking Humanity Evil with Beast, you retard.>Narration:>If that be so, we will be the Beast mankind wishes us to be.Beast. Not Human evilAnd you're stupid as hell. Immature beast is not an evil of humanity. Even immature beasts are already wearing their crown. Human evil's don't have a crown until they become beasts. From there, immature beasts can develop to matured beasts.In short, your argument is fucking dead in the water because you reading comprhension is sub-zero.
>>553137181>Without the maturity, they aren't beasts.They are only evil of humanity. PHH ignores them as long as they don't mature.Noah got sent by the world to kill larva dracodemiya got sent to kill kiaraorion got sent to kill koyanStop making shit up
>>553136963666 is Manaka's pet Servant. Sodom doesn't have that kind of cheat code.Manaka is a being "Born" in the Root.The true one. That alone is gonna trump PHH.
Beasts were a mistake. Grands were a mistake.
>>553135930QRD? What's with all the fanart of Azrael with Stheno?
>>553137343CCC was erased like LB and Kiara was recorded explicitly because she was a Beast larva
>>553137387Yeah, but that's like one of the least egregious Moneybills ever done so eh
>>553137343>That obviously is a misconception or Part 1 and 2 wouldn't have been retconed from existence and they are beasts cases broAre you retarded? That's not the reason they were "retconned" at all
>>553137343>That obviously is a misconception or Part 1 and 2 wouldn't have been retconed from existenceI mean, it would, it just wouldn't affect the beasts. It's not like saying daybit would be the only one to remeber even made sense at the time because merlin and the servantverse characters exist
>>553135642Olga is a planet
Independent Manifestation: EA skill that allows one to manifest in the world without outside help. This Beast seems to be capricious, since she is satisfied with the destruction of a single city.>This skill is also already exists in every space-time possible, so not only can the skill nullify any paradoxes resulting from time travel, but it can also nullify various Death-related attacks.
>>553137009He doesn't give a shit about draco in the finale. and isn'tf fearful of her.
Why are you guys still responding to this idiot. I swear like he's been called out on several pieces of misinformation already.
>>553137413Yeah I know, just brought it up in context of Waver's minmaxing
>>553137576The biggest mistake with Beasts was when they started to have way more human-like designs instead of the humanoid monsters.
>>553137617egregious things* whoops
tiddies
What if we just record all of Chaldeas’ history of itself that Laplace recorded and then insert it into the throne and then summon Chaldea as a big Voyager class servant
>>553137579Stheno shat on him in the Grand duel (and so did Euryale against Grand Gil)
>>553137727Draco never appeared with Ozymandias, and why would he even care when Draco has been defeated and pacified? Was all this just Manakfagging cope?
>>553137450There was a possibility of Angra not incarnating. With Irisviel as Saber's master, it was assured to happen.
>>553137413So you're saying that a mage could use a character development haircut to save their ass in a pinch?
>>553137727>He doesn't give a shit about draco in the finalewell no shit jerusalem was resolved; his work was done after becoming amon ra defeating the two dragonsHe repeatedly warned chaldea about the ''great beast'' so him not being fearful again is a lie
>>553137228>Eshe's fucked bro.>>553137340Incineration was by someone with IM A and got retconned, Draco has E. She's mega ultra DELETED.>the throneWhat throne? in the finale we found out that some summons happen because are stored in the lb records themselves.you're not truly summoning many of them from the throne but maris' records. once she dies, those go with her.This is exactly why they were hinting Jeanne Alter will vanish after the journey is over. She was made in an event that got erased from existence.
would anyone make me a sammich
>>553137343>Kiara's shit in Seraphix also got retconned by the PHH.Yeah and Kiara is still a Beast and it's mentioned a number of times she can turn back into Beast with enough energyMaris is unique case because she must be build by humans so her IM has that weakness
>>553137181>Beasts are SAINT GRAPHS/crowns evil of humanity obtain when they matureSo...why are we told that they have crowns before maturing?
Manaka fags are going to be ignored again by Sakurai.
>>553137917But Lostbelt 0 would get erased so it would never happen anyway. What about HF bad ends? Why didn't Alaya intervene when there was a possibility of Shirou kicking the bucket?
>>553138017Fuck you Uncle Phil you are not my MOTHER!
>>553137579Triggering Sudden Death on him would get rid of his guts, making the fight easier and faster, Stheno was the easiest one to use because she worked well with Koyan/KH/Gensai.
>>553138004>Incineration was by someone with IM A and got retconned, Draco has E. She's mega ultra DELETED.Draco has E. She's [HEADCANON]
>>553137450>Why didn't Alaya do it in any other worldline?EMIYA? Why do you think a CG was summoned?
>>553137665Daybit's literally connected to the dark star outside the universe that was affected by maris. He would be the best record keeper.Nasu said his mind and clock are cosmic level and isn't affected by the earth/this universe concept of time that's why the reset after 24 hours happen even if he's stuck in a texture that is a loop.
>>553137579>innate 50% debuff resistance>charm delays his primary mechanic>insta-kill NP can't miss and shears off a layer of his guts (and can also charm, to delay his primary mechanic)There was another cute "pairing" with Scheherazade and Solomon because of this (anti-king completely nukes the 100+++ node even with NP1) but I can't find any art for it
I was wondering what the angle was and why there was such a resistance to PHH Beast Draco when Nasu explicitly confirmed it, and there was no contradiction whatsoever.It was just the Manakafag resurfacing after the prologue and trying to make Manaka look special again.
>>553138205He didn't do shit other than giving his arm to Shirou.
>>553138205EMIYA got summoned because of his pendant, he says so himself.
>>553138004>Incineration was by someone with IM A and got retconnedIncineration isn't beast. Although idk if Goetia was killed for real by Ars Nova or just accepted Solomon's decision and fucked off (Lev didn't and he survived just fine and has Independent Manifestation E post-Ars Nova lmao)Kiara's Seraphix was retconned and she is still Beast herself and can mature again
>>553138028Kiara bragging she can do it when she never demonstrated she can is dumb bro. Even Goetia and Tiamat who were REAL Beasts can't.>>553138045They aren't, they have a logos/principle and are candidates for the Crown/Throne.
What's our new mystic code going to be for Part 2.5.5?
>>553138004>Incineration was by someone with IM A and got retconnedNothing got retconned in context of the Beast. They will keep existing as Beasts or depowered Beasts all the same.>Draco has E>"This skill also denotes that one "exists in any space-time", invalidating not only attacks by means of time travel and temporal paradoxes"You're probably the worst attempt at a lorefag I've seen in years.>What throne? in the finale we found out that some summons happen because are stored in the lb records themselves.What kind of finale have you read exactly? The Chaldean LB servants and the phantoms that appeared in the finale are not the same in the slightest. The phantoms were just records from inside the tree that came out to fight it, not the registered SG we have at Chaldea.
>The fucking shrimp has caused a multi-thread retard debate>Again
>>553138370>Incineration isn't beast.Goetia is literally the Incineration of Humanity Ritual. Yes, he fucking is. He's just sentient. He had IMA and got literally RETCONNED.You think Draco exists as Beast?
>>553138513The emperor one again since Olga masturbates to it
has someone send this?im in fucking tears
>we’re gonna get an entire year of Azrael bullying OlgaI can already tell I’m gonna love their dynamic so fucking much. L
>>553138235So are all the foreigner characters, no? He's not really all that special in that regard. Merlin is also in avalon and that's not affected by much either. Beasts are also not affected by anything
>>553138381>They aren'tSo you're saying that Kiara was never a beast at any point then?
>>553138370Goetia was a spell created by Solomon, he became a man then diedThe demon gods existed before that, so most just went "it is what it is" and died too while at it.
>>553138556>You think Draco exists as Beast?''Her skill says one thing but I say the opposite and I'M RIGHT!''
>>553138561>Olga masturbates to itWhere did that come from again? I forgot.
>>553138370>he survived just fine and has Independent Manifestation E post-Ars Nova lmao)...Chaldeas was still working, anonbro. did you miss Sion saying everything is going to collapse after that?
>>553138771Her top 10 list of Gudas fuckups.One was not wearing it more because she thinks its hot
Buck Broken.
Why the fuck are arguing about shit like that when we STILL don't have a clear explanation what really happened with Lostbelt 0? Like yeah it got "pruned", but did it really?
The Foreigenrs like Abby are megafucked because they are a consequence of Raum building a "bridge of fiction" (look at the name). I don't know what their status is like, outside what ifs.Foreigners like Koyan and Daybit are 100% real, on the other hand. Without any potential bullshit about muh fiction and muh superstition Nasu can use to erase Meteo's pets. We'll see in the Foreigner chapter.
Alright the tard is just spreading nonsense and ragebaiting, I'm done with him.
>>553138784Lev was fine even after Final.He walked somewhere, same with Fou.
>>553138564Thankfully we got something for ours. The theory crafting proved to be right this one time.
>>553138928Haha, I wouldn’t worry about it…
>>553137830Anybody think they'll bring that bit about them technically being sisters up again at some point?
Wait. Does this mean Lostbelt masters are alive? Did reset bring them back?
>>553138764Her skill says she can be protected against paradox attacks... but not how it'll last. And never says against EVERY of them anon.IF A isn't enough to be retconned (which canonically happens)...then... E? Use your brain.>>553138370The retcon of the records of incinernation never existed happened after you beat Chaldeas? It existed within the Lostbelt 0: CHALDEA journey.Now question... how did Draco become Sodom? A...Chaldea journey? She's in the same bag.
>>553138564>nasu's face when people can't move on
>>553138564Except FGOchads were right on the fakeout.
>>553139006Read the story. The thing wasn't immediately erased until Mashu and Guda walked out the barrier. It was beginning to resettle. And Lev was a Pretender not a Beast, he even lost his Logos, so he's not a prime target to be deleted by PHH...unlike Draco.
>>553139257>Her skill says>"This skill also denotes that one "exists in any space-time"What part of "any space time" are you failing to understand post baiting retard?
>>553139223How are we supposed to know anything beyond what was directly presented in that short 5 minute scene?
>>553139257>how did Draco become Sodom? A...Chaldea journey? She's in the same bag.Prove that draco became a larva after feeding through multiple chaldeas and not after right she was born
Love how this guy is making up shit as he goes>No no that didn't happen yet uhhh it happened after because [headcanon]
>>553139449>>553139257SHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGERSMUH SPACE TIME MUH TIMELINES MUH PRUNINGTHIS SHIT DOESN'T MAKE SENSENASU CHANGES IT ALL THE TIMESTUPID RETARDS HOLY FUCK SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
>>553139223They should be, yeah
>>553138569>every event gets ended abruptly by Azrael showing up and dragging Olga off-screen to get on with the main plotWould be a very funny running gag
>>553139223Crypters are alive in PHH but not in the "part 2.5 Chaldea"
>>553139223They're alive as versions of themselves that were never recruited by Chaldea. Honestly the rules are pretty unclear since they brought back staff that died to Koyan at the start of Part 2 but not Gordolf.
>>553139067I can't imagine he has 0 feats like he must surely been mentioned a few times in the story since he was released until now or something
Why has nobody made a Carl edit of Goredolf yet?
>>553139574I've asked him this 5 times and he keeps ducking ti to say>you don't understand the difference betwen human evil and beast!!!because he's genuinely so fucking stupid that he thinks immature beasts aren't beasts.Someone wake him up and remind him that Kiara NEVER matured. She still had a crown and was still a beast saint graph. God damn. All this to glaze Manaka.
I think guys need to re-read the finale. You literally decided to reset your journey, so nothing related to Chaldea (any incident) took place. Did xxx become a Beast/Foreigner/Sales agent because of meeting or interacting with Chaldea? Now that is fucking deleted and Purged from based Phh. Beast I and VII were triggers, in PHH, for the others to appear and mature, including Draco. Beast I weakened the Humanity Foundation and fucked its defenses for ages, while VII acknowledged those contents. They were opposites yet helped each other first (that's why VII needed those singularities to act too).The only reason it didn't happen before is because Maris Chaldeas was acknowledging it as the Root. It trumped PHH. But after you bullied Maris-chan, all that got erased.
>>553140002Big breasts big
Will fucking Serenity now gets me killed?
>>553126810Lev as Chaldean either has the outfit, closed eyes or a much angrier/tsundere set or facial expressions in fanart.
I think you need to stop pretending you have any credibility in discussing things you don't even understand
>>553140068Shut the fuck up already.
>>553140169Who are you quoting?
>>553138564It was the same shit with other popular shows like SnK or GoT lol
>>553137972So Kirsch could have survived longer if he got a trim....
>>553126810Roman: High ponytail, big eyes.Levman : low ponytail, narrow eyes.
SHUT UP SHUT SHUT UP SHUT UPJUST FUCKING WAIT FOR NEXT NASU Q&A BLOGPOST RETARDSHOLY FUCK SHUT UP SHUT SHUT UPNO ONE CARES ABOUT BEASTSTHEY ALL SUCKED AFTER ANGRY MANJEWSHUT UP SHUT UP SHUUUUUUT UUUUUUUUPPPPPPP
>>553140261Faggot's gut full of semen wasn't enough?
Since Koyanskaya doesn't have a mate does that mean as soon as you dick her she'd go full submissive?
>>553140356lorekek melty
>>553140068IM has nothing to do with rootKiara was erased in Extra CCC incident and still can appear and mature as beastKiara was erased in Seraphix and still can appear and mature as beastSo she still fine, but if she tries to appear in normal PHH she would be destroyed by CF instantly and can't matureBeasts cannot be erased but they need special requirements to manifest and mature
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>>553140261Kirsch losing his beautiful locks would be worse than him dying
>>553140394Who filled him?
>Guda, Mashu and Da Vinky already back>Olga came back to life>Manure and the rest also back>Gordolf back in Germany fucking his homunculus or somethingKinda funny how only Sion got fucked over and she didn't even need to be there
>>553140356
>>553140429THEN FUCKING EXPLAIN HOW LOSTBELT 0 ERAUSRE WORKSTAKING INTO CONTEXT THAT WE'LL SOMEHOW BACK IN CHALDEAAND ALL OTHER SHITIT'S PARADOX UPON PARADOXFUUUUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>Counter Force: "Delet all lostbelt okay, now fug off :DDD">5 minutes later>Counter Force: "Oh right beasts hab indebendend manifedadion :DDD Oh fugg :DD Come back :DDDD"
>>553128876>ORT running on full autopilot, casually warped space to deflect the rayproofIt wasn't PALADIN rayproof.
>Nobody even brought up to this retard how this whole "everything got deleted" hasn't even happened because some Beast just happened to be able to recreate all memories and soon even the servants involved after the """"reset"""" happened
Don't think too hard about this, the beasts manifested and that's it
>>553140524Sorry, I got too worked up.
>>553139449>>553137723NTA and that guy is absolutely fucking wrong on just about everything he's said, but IM comes in degrees. Draco having IM that good was always horseshit from Sakurai. Her IM is E-rank but it's better than most. Tiamat is the one who had that particular IM, and she was a special case because humanity in all worlds prove her existence. Sakurai copy-pasted Tiamat's entire IM sheet and gave it to Draco. It was retarded. Even Goetia's IM at a higher-rank doesn't have Tiamat's particular invulnerabilities. IM at D-rank and C-rank is still able to be affected by instant-death gimmicks for example. Kiara specifically was in the summer event. Basically, Draco cannot be pruned, but her IM in that servant state/profile really shouldn'be that good.
meow
>>553140462He is so pretty he would look good with different lengths
All this back and forth vitriol, instead of just admitting that part 2 ended worse than part 1.
>Beast>when it's God-Olga>they still don't know
So is there a way to play through a singularity again without making a new account, or do I just have to watch a no commentary run on youtube or some shit?
>>553140002It's just pads.
>>553140435Kiara even arriving to FGO was done by a Pillar demon, bronon. She's mega hyper deleted.
Jalter / Morgan / Olga > Mash . Refute that if you can
>>553140753>Still the evilest being in the franchiseHow does she do it?
>>553137413>That’s something that’s been brought up multiple times in both FSN and Mahoyo that hair can store lots of magical energy that’s been built up over years.Is that why Solomon's hair is so long?
>After being mocked and exposed, he's now changing personaOh god it really is him again
So Azrael's right and Olga is a beast. But through love and friendship she will UNBEAST herself thus Azrael won't need to go all snip snip with Chaldea's necks? I love cheese btw.
>>553140425The only thing you should be doing involving contact with Koyan is running her over with your car.
>>553140970Kiara without Romani saving her goes back to being a sex pest cult leaderShe is fuarked
>>553141198>changing personaTo who?
>>553140726>Even Goetia's IM at a higher-rank doesn't have Tiamat's particular invulnerabilitiesGoetia's IM literally says he's immune to Lostbelts, wtf are you even saying>Furthermore, due to the existence fixation it also possesses the effect of resistance towards attack by means of instant death and time manipulation. >Those with the Skill do not receive influence from the Incineration of Human Order by means of Singularities, or from the Compilation of Human Order by means of *****, manifesting as long the requirement is fulfilled.
Maris was right, thinking too much is bad
>>553141336>>553141142Wait, wrong screencap, ignore that
>>553141210>we get Angel tardwrangler>just after Animusphere fell into a VoidI'm coooooonnecting the dots
>>553141210why are you expecting anything else? the epilogue arc probably has two primary points: give olga a happier ending, and put an end to beasts once and for all.
>>553141513what does that mean for perpetually bald niggas
This line>Those with the Skill do not receive influence from the Incineration of Human Order by means of Singularities, or from the Compilation of Human Order by means of *****, manifesting as long the requirement is fulfilledWould've ended the entire shitpost from the start.
>>553141625Ass hair.
>>553141513>>553141142There was a Christian myth of a guy who had long hair then his hair was cut and he died
>>553141392>>Furthermore, due to the existence fixation it also possesses the effect of resistance towards attack by means of instant death and time manipulation. Resistance, not full immunity. Unless the kanji is the same. Compare that to Tiamat:> Also, because this Skill exemplifies how Tiamat is “already existing anywhere even in the spacetime continuum”, it will not only nullify time paradox attacks and the like that utilize time travel, but it will also cancel all instant death attacks. Full-blown nullification. I'm talking specifically about instant-death attacks and time paradoxes. IM doesn't give immunity to this, only resistance. Or rather it shouldn't have. My issue is with Draco's servant prolfile specifically. E shouldn't be that good.
>>553141513Magic is stored in the hair. Except pubic hair. That can be shaved off.
You know. Void Shiki hacking independent manifestation is crazy nowadays. When Nasu called it a beast-exclusive skill, he meant it. Nobody else outside that group but Void has it.
Why do nips think there are 72 pillars when Time Temple had only 8?And clearly there were always just 8 or more pillars would arise to fight Chaldea
If we have to fight Beasts again. Does this mean same Beast battle locations as previous ones?
>>553141843>Nerfing your magic potential by committing to basic hygiene. Never gonna make it as a real mage, bro.
>>553141964No, it's the leftover Beasts (so at least V and VI-2, probably also IV (for real this time) and VII (Olga)) to find the culprit that trapped you in PPP.
>>553141757>My issue is with Draco's servant prolfile specifically. E shouldn't be that good.She's the strongest after all
>>553141934The "8" you were fighting were clusters of 9 each. Read the fucking story.
>>553141934Kabbalah, it's even mentioned in Case Files so lorefags latched onto it.
magic is stored in the balls
>>553141732Samson is a servant in samurai remnant.
>>553142120It's based, but it's really inconsistent. They should have just raised the rank lmfao.
>>553141690That doesn't protect you of big daddy Alaya.
don't mind me, i'm just observing until the very end
Grand Marie had the strongest IM out of all the Beasts and her Singularity never disappeared, I wonder if she's still there taking a nap. Since she's a giantess I guess Nasu will just keep her alive forever.
>>553141757>>553142120I like to believe it's because Draco has parallels with Tiamat, and was born from her desire "not to die no matter what". Her instincts to live are higher than the others, so this makes her existence fixation particularly good.Just theorycrafting but it would make sense.
Can female mages give servants or other people also mana through sex or is it only the other way around?
>>553142214>It's based, but it's really inconsistent. They should have just raised the rank lmfao.To be honest if I have to take a look at all of draco she doesn't have that much hax (only mindcontrol and her mud) but she has absurd bruteforce so I guess they added that to compensate
>>553142416mana transfer is just any kind of fluid exchange, it's why rider drinks blood in the original vn. Sexo is just more effective
funny how the normalfag cope for st ended up being a fraud but fgo's ended up being at least 80% correct.
>>553142249>Liar>Coke addict >Is still sus
Shh... Olga is sleeping...
>>553142470makes me wonder who the weakest beast is? U olga? Her hax are pretty shit
>>553141757This is just another Type Moon bullshit skill thing.Reminder that Kingprotea has full autonomy and doesn't require a master whatsoever to act>Independent action: BRanks are memes.
I hope they dial it up to 11 on making Azrael an autistic goofball
Speaking of Beasts:>Ashes of the Human King: EX>Short-lived as it may have been, the system created to supplement Human Order once reached the status of King of Humanity. Sprinkling his ashes grants super effectiveness against Human Order.can you explain me this shit?
>>553142668U-Olga never used her full power and Nasu said she would've been able to eat ORT if she was at full power and not regenerating her heart.
>>553142668>makes me wonder who the weakest beast is? U olga? Her hax are pretty shitkoyan?
Why Azrael so smug?
>>553142843He knows he's gonna rake in a lot of money come Chaldea Boys this year.
>>553118917I require a scene of us confronting Olga for her last words. Chew her out for insisting that this was all her fault and that it's alright if she dies. None of that's okay.
>>553142668Camazotz had nothing but invincibility, a few servants was enough to bring him down once his principle of Oblivion was neutralized.
>>553142805Objectively yeah probably but I don't want to count her since she was never able to fully manifest>>553142780I'll believe it when I see it, potential president will never be able to do anything cool on screen. How am I supposed to believe she can beat ort when she straight jobbed to kuku. Her best feat is literally just something she made up in a dream
>>553142780She would have been able to eat the sleeping ORT. Not that impressive.
>>553142470Draco's entire profile is a headache that feels like a ton of shit about her is skipped. She should have 10 crowns because BB's skill was derived from Mother Harlot. All the shit BB did, Draco should also be able to do.She has a holy grail as the basis of her powers so again, limitless versatility and "omnipotence" there. But then they just write her as a beatstick powerhouse. Very strange.>>553142668U-Olga has plenty of hax. Her system is outer-space, and at 20% we saw that she could even "freeze" ORT in time. We just never see her fight all out.
>>553142668The difficult part is that most beast are still in a larval/incomplete stage when we fight them.I would say Camazotz is the weakest full beast we fought.
>>553142773>Excalibur>Sword of Promised Victory>Rank A++>Maximum number of targets: 1000So if you put 1,001 people in a formation, the guy at the very back of the line would be just fine
>>553142957>>553142960The President will be Beast VII (real), all the clues are there. ??? in the final chapter even had the original President sprite.
>>553143029Wait. Does FOU / Beast remember things? Did Beasts also lose memory due to Reset?
>>553143224Isn't Fou missing?
>>553142668Koyanskaya is definitely the weakest beast. She's below Kingprotea.
>>553143224Fou didnt even go with us to PHHHe was chilling with Holmes watching
>>553143173Given U-olga's and Maris' track record so far if that actually happens she'll trip over a rock and lose 80% of her power
>>553143029this is why the little rat left isn't it>>553143224he left, he didn't disappear like the others.
>>553142668Every Beast is extremely powerful at their best, that's why quite literally none of them gets defeated conventionally when they're like that, nor even reaches the peak.But Camazotz is the weakest. He's just immortal and you can deal easily with that unless you're a retarded autist alien robot
>>553143173>??? in the final chapter even had the original President sprite.Wait wasn't it the actual olga? Before ending the convo Maris says something about ''Alright I'm cutting you off the system''Right after she screws you olga to the hole
>>553142993The Ten Crowns are worn by her mount, not herself. Logically it would Bestia Coccinia that possesses that skill.
will nasu keep gil and herc as grand archer and berserker, or is he gonna use other choices?
"After the defeat of Maris CHALDEAS, Lostbelt Zero begins to collapse. Fou stays behind with Sherlock Holmes and Lev Goetia while everyone else escapes on the Storm Border. The three speak about Fujimaru, Olga Marie, and Marisbury. Fou explains that he stayed by Fujimaru's side because Fujimaru was special in how they were an ordinary, everyday person, and Fou liked their courage, action, and words, but now their time together has come to an end. He says that he doesn't know where he'll go next, as long as it's not back to Merlin's prison tower" So...where is Fou currently? In void?
>>5531295041000 hours of paint
>>553142993>She should have 10 crowns because BB's skill was derived from Mother Harlot.G has that skill it seems, her having 7 crowns isn't bad hecause the beast of the sea and the dragon have seven heads so makes sense.
>>553142763>First impressions were many thinking he was supah stoic and autistic>Now it's actually he's very slaughter prone, pushy AND autistic Can't wait for more silly bullshit with him
>>553143587catching up with his girlfriend
>>553143498But why did she have the President's sprite? I think Maris was never the real Beast VII and was only recognized as such because she was using U-Olga's SG, and then she saddled that SG on Olga's soul and that's why the current Olga is a hybrid between director and president.
>>553143517>>553143646Actually, you might be right>"Ten Crowns of Domination" worn by the Beast of Babylon converted into a teacher's pointer.This is the male principle corresponding to the female principle of the seven-headed beast, and its true nature is a phallus (erect rod).Draco and her beasts were specifically all female. The "G" side of Beast VI will probably be male.
>>553143498You can see U-Olga when ??? talks. It doesn't show up on Atlas because the site's jank. By all accounts it's the actual Olga, her soul, but it shows Miss U. It's a mystery.
>>553143389>But Camazotz is the weakestHow is Camazotz weaker than Koyanskaya?
>>553143839>Miyu will never turn me to Illya and extract my Illya milkWhy even live?
Summer Olga this year and Santa Olga Lily next year, or the other way around.
>>553143587>He says that he doesn't know where he'll go next, as long as it's not back to Merlin's prison towerHe's back to Merlin's.When a line like this is dropped you know what happens after.
What does seven crowns do then?
>>553144045G is male, the original Beast, it's Manaka's pet. It's supposed to be 666 Number of the Beast, the reason they're called Beasts to begin with. I guess they're sort of one and the same now because 666 revived Manaka after Arthur killed her.
>>553144248Mother you
>Eight years later, the Beast revives Manaka in a zombified state, due to Saber tossing Manaka's body into the muck of the Greater Grail prior to its defeat.Does this mean that Arthur is in this dumb mess because he is a retard? Why did he even throw Manaka's corpse to the mud, what did he think was going to happen?
>>553143000can you even fit 1000 people into a range of 99?
The only two beasts who really fucked shit up are Goetia and Maris. That's a fact. We know from the infodump of the finale Maris also needed those Singularities to even operate, or the human order would stop the operation. Crypters were going to falseflag them in their bomber role. It was the two of them simultaneously that allowed things to scalate and other Beasts to pop up, but in the end, those beasts were neglible when they were setting sights beyond a single target.Now makes sense why Tamamo was confused, why was Draco so strong--maybe Beasts aren't supposed to be so mega, ridiculously powerful. I really doubt Daji was. Draco is supposed to be a city-level threat and nothing more. Even Manjew would have been stopped if he matured into one before he even wastes half of the world, but you look at the scale of Goetia's and Maris bullshit, and it's obviously different. It was a combination of their mutual manifestation that made this get this far. With the human order mega fucked and functioning in patches, it let other Beasts cheat their ways and grow into massive monsters they were never meant to be. This was because one Beast attacted the Humanity Foundation, and the Other (who was acting on Root Authority) observed it and acknowledged it.Sion and Da Vinci said that Goetia and Maris didn't disturb each other. It was the opposite. Only Lev's human moment of anger fucked shit up for both of them.
>Beasts aren't PHH!then why is the Human Order even bothering with sending Azrael to the last gasp of a reset timeline
>>553144045Goetia had the Ten crowns in his last battle. Nasu didn't explain that in his profile by the way.
>>553144248>Seven Crowns: C>Its scent thickens the sword and sharpens the armor.>Its method becomes vague, any disadvantages become meaningless.Casnero's profile from ages ago. Linking it up with Draco's skill, it proves offensive and defensive, buffs and ignores weaknesses,
The PHH excuse is just a dumb Nasu retcon he pulled out of his ass to justify SEresh and then he had to asspull something else for Olga. I refuse to take his ass seriously.
>>553144498>Why did he even throw Manaka's corpse to the mud, what did he think was going to happen?zombified cunnies are so hot
Wait. With this "Defeat Beasts" goal. Did Nasu just create more stuff he needs to write? Basically short Part 3
>>553139302Except that's still the ending.
>>553144743Beast plagiarism is just that commonKiara's Nega Messiah is also a ripoff iirc?
>>553144709They can fuck with PHH, so you beat them and go "nah this never happened bye."
>>553144824He doesn't NEED to write it. Manaka and 666 were handed over to Sakurai a long time ago. Maybe she's MIA because been writing her magnus opus Prototype chapter with heavily anticipated Servants (Proto Gil, Perseus, Manaka) and a long story all this time.
>>553144824evil sex
>>553144248Create a videogame where they have authorities that are cheat abilties
>>553144824This isn't part 3. It's just a bigger scale EoR: cleaning the remaining subplots of Part 2. The finale is still your life as a universary student without memories. Olga swore to get you there.If part 3 happens, it'll be a different plot.
>>553144798>>553144498Those Camelot idiots need to learn that destroying a girl without leaving any trace of her is the correct way to dispose of them.
>>553144607>Draco is supposed to be a city-level threatNo. X-eater doesn't mean X-level.> Even Manjew would have been stopped if he matured into one before he even wastes half of the world,Other way around. It's manifestation would destroy half the world, THEN a grand would be summoned. Not that it can only destroy a half a world.Beast Eresh has a planetary sword she throws around. Camazotz could defeat ORT. Beasts are plenty powerful. You're just hyping the ones who needed to go through hoops and required stupid amounts of planning for their goals. Might I remind you that a slight misstep completely eradicates Goetia's chances at incinerating the human order? It literally does not happen anywhere outside FGO. That's how low his chances of success were
>>553145109it's "repainting" the ending. there's a huge difference between "you return to your normal life, but all your servants are gone forever and you failed to save olga" and "you return to normal life, but all your servants are safe and you saved olga".
>>553144859>Except that's still the endingNot.It's not an ending anymore as part 2.5 takes place after it. The timespan between the finale and December 31st 2019 at 23:59 still happened in PHH.It's also painfully obvious this is part 2's Epic of Remnant which means part 3 will follow.
Complete VI should be Sodom's Beast (the furry) riding Beast of 666Since both should be together, 666 and draco create copies of the other.Draco creates the incardines which form bestia coccinea (a seven headed beast)666 (the seven headed dragon) meets manaka and basically makes her the harlot.So in conclusion manaka and nero forced lesbian sex with command seals
>>553144882By this implication:>>553142773It seems that the King of Humanity can lord over the Human Order?Which leads me to a couple of questions: Goetia is just the Shadow of Solomon and steals his shit. Does it mean, Solomon, alive, at his peak is the king of humanity?Camazotz was the king of all humanity in LB7 and he was Beast I.
So waitForeigner OC is foreigner OCThis whole 2.5 chapter is basically the beast OC?
>>553145109It's CCC so different ending may still happen (probably Olga survives)And I think Part 3 is guaranteed now, if they wanted to EoS they should do it in 2-3 months after ending, no one would be happy with EoS in a year when the ending would be mostly forgotten and lose the hype
>>553145345You're trying too hard. 10 crowns doesn't have to do with the human order and Human King is a title only Goetia got. Solomon doesn't have it.As for Camazotz? Backwards. Camazotz's people were never humans ala the human order. The "humanity" of LB7 were the deinos. It just doesn't matter as LB6 revealed that different species can generate their own beasts through Barghest.It is more likely that Beast I is about using "humans" as fuel
>>553145345I think it's a bit of a quirk of the King of X titles in TM. While King of Conquerors is common for DUDE for example, Conqueror King is apparently more correct? There's Ozzy with the period appropriate King of Kings and not King King making me eat my words but I think(?) King of Humans could be Human King.(Though Goetia was supposed to oversee the progress of the Grand Orders originally. I think. They never really say much about what a normal Goetia's work would be?)
>>553145515Yes
What if Angra is the beast? He and Kirei did have the important conversation on valentine's day.
>Give character screentime and backstory>People like her moreIt's kind of funny how people are confused that more people like Olga than when she was a footnote character that fell into the big ball years ago and was barely mentioned since. That being said Nasu fucked up by not having her be more thought about throughout the story before her rereveal in Olympus
>>553145232>No. X-eater doesn't mean X-level.She specificially noted that she shouldn't be this strong. And Daji, as far as we know, just fucked around in China.>It's manifestation would destroy half the worldMaturity is the same.>Beast Eresh has a planetary sword she throws aroundEresh is Servant Universe. Why are you bringing her up? Calamity Jane and every nigga there is planet tier.>You're just hyping the ones who needed to go through hoops and required stupid amounts of planning for their goals.I'm hyping the ones that actually caused a serious issue. The only ones acknowledged in the after party by the way.Without them, the others wouldn't have done anything or gotten as strong. Period. Manaka and her pet too-she escaped from being destroyed because of their bullshit fucking shit up across time and space.
>>553144498I mean can you blame him?
>>553144798Poor Melt. She was so scared before dying. All her charisma and her sexy poses came tumbling down so fast.
>>553145345>Camazotz was the king of all humanity in LB7 and he was Beast I.Camazotz is obvious parallel to Goetia he got power from his humanity dying and his battle has throne in the background
why are people trying to downplay or upscale the Beasts or anything else anyway, I remember were really autistic about it even at the end of Part 1. Why do you wanna powerscale in the Nasuverse bro, they'll throw around Anti Planet shit and bomb and island at best.
>>553145641>You're trying too hard. 10 crowns doesn't have to do with the human order and Human King is a title only Goetia got. Solomon doesn't have it.Lev just said everything they had, all of them, is just Solomon's in the Finale.>Camazotz's people were never humans ala the human order.During the period the deinos were inactive, they were indeed the humanity there. There are multiple ages and prime species. They got extinct when the deinos awoke.
>>553145606Part 3 has been guaranteed for a while. People were just retarded and contrarian.This 2.5 was greenlit ever since Nasu wrote Kirei's valentine as you can quite literally hear the clock in the prologue whose only context is Kirei and the ticking time before Azrael ends this 2.5Next new years we'll get the usual prologue into a new part like we did after Epic of Remnant.
>>553145837I doubt Olga was planned to be important when Part 1 was madeBut yeah like I said many times should kill her (in the same way) in LondonThis way she will get 4 singularities (and it's not like the first 4 singularities had great characters, so writing would be improved with her there)
are we getting a beast oc?
>>553144824>AI vtumoryuck
>>553145996Morgan confirms the Beasts are the strongest being in the world. If there's someone else stronger, they don't manifest as Beast. That's why Barghest couldn't become one despite being a candidate.Which is funny... it means ORT is weaker?
>>553145996Because the weakest Beast humbled the supposed strongest being in /tmg/ schizo little universe.
>>553146053Lev said Goetia's deeds are born from Solomon's, which is true. It doesn't mean they belong to him. Goetia didn't become the human king until he died, so it doesn't have much to do with Solomon. Goetia is stated as having surpassed Solomon.>During the period the deinos were inactive, they were indeed the humanity there. There are multiple ages and prime species. They got extinct when the deinos awoke.Fair on that, but again, doesn't really matter. Beasts can come from other species. Beast I uses humanity as a resource. Camazotz's parallel is to Goetia, not Solomon. I don't think that has anything to do with 10 crowns as they became beasts without them
>>553146171Nasu decided she was important when he rewrote Camelot and Part 2 was decided. That's why Romani randomly brings up her and dumps her sad backstory on you and explains that she was a good girl all along.
>>553145951That's a Beast Killer, by the way.
>>553146259Obviously, since ORT was without a heart, asleep and lvl 1 and we know from Nasu that Olga probably would have succeeded in consuming it.
>>553142125>were clusters of 9 eachWhat?It was 8 thrones (7 and then trash heap) with single pillar eachIt was one big pillar in a throne
Would you have Lilith as your main (lore wise) Servant? https://youtu.be/nAKKNFQd9gU?si=411CbAai4jnxMt2Z . Instead of Mash
>>553146259Not what Morgan said, otherwise Melusine would be the beast. It's more that you have a human evil born through fear, but the people acknowledged something else - a knight who protects them at that - to be the strongest, so they didn't fear the beast. Consequently, the beast never manifested. It's the particular circumstances of LB6. Barghest specifically needed fear to manifest. Other beasts don't.
>>553146278>/tmg/ out of nowhere
>>553146501Instead of just Mashu? Fuck, I would trade you Olga, Mashu, and Vinci for only Lilith. Take those 3 away from me. I'm already tired of them.
>>553146383>he rewrote Camelot and Part 2 was decidedYeah that's still after Fuyuki
What happened to Larva/Tiamat ? Does she still remember us?
You know, arcade was a very bad idea in hindsight. After all this, I still don't get how Draco fights. Unlike every other beast who plenty of material or scenes to show off, or lore, Draco just kinda came and went. What even are her powers?
I'm trying to understand how this thread became so popular
>>553146392Manga was written before SE.RA.PH, so lots of stuff got retconned since then, including how Palladion works and its rank.
>>553146705Everyone remembers again, at least for now.
>>553146497>with single pillar eachREAD THE FUCKING STORY YOU CLOD>Demon God Halphas>Activate. Activate. The nine pillars that govern the Armory:>Furfur. Marchosias. Stolas. Phenex.>Malphas. Räum. Focalor. Vepar.>We nine pillars mourn the flames of war.>We nine pillars honor the dignity of the fallen.>In the name of the 72 Demon Gods, we shall not allow eyes to be shut away from this truth...!etc. etc. every single one of them opens like this. They all introduce nine pillars.
huh
>beast filler arcAs long as we get Camazotz I don't care.
>>553146392>>553146815They didn't have their id_es skills in Fox Tail. They were basically hollow shells, of course they were mulched.Virgin Laser Palladion doesn't even WORK without Trash & Crush compressing Meltryllis's liquid body. It was basically an imitation of their super move without any substance at all.
>>553146472Bro I mean...multiple Beasts manifested with ORT parking his ass in South America.
>>553146856Every story chapter will add a new Grand to the team and they'll all try to kill Olga at least once.
>>553146259People taking Morgan being poetic as some kind of strict rule is starting to get ridiculous.ORT is not even in the qualifications, it is arguably not even a "being" in any meaningful sense.
>>553146516Melu doesn't love humanity. She, at the time, only loved Aurora. Barghest loved humans though.>you have a human evil born through fear,none of the beasts operated through fear and openly? so that makes NO SENSE.
>>553146914>Räum>PhenexDamn, Halphas, how come Nasu let you have TWO EoR pillars?
>>553146789>brainwashing for the seductive aspect>World-wide chaos tide>Pillars stronger than amon-ra Ozy and servant lion kingThat's all she wrote. Sodom is that but bigger. Knight Draco is that but fire and dragon heads.The profiles and mats don't explain shit.We're basically waiting on the FGO materials at the end of the year.
>>553147136>They were basically hollow shells, of course they were mulched.It's still amazing how strong and dangerous both were in that state. Thank goodness they killed them fast.
>>553147426Morgan literally said that's how Barghest was meant to manifest. She feeds off the fear of the faeries. Faeries didn't fear her as much because something stronger was already there (Melu) so Barg couldn't eat and grow up to be a big girl.
>>553146789>What even are her powers?She nodiffs the likes of ozy, gilgamesh, divine enkidu (before fighting her in babylon) and mind controlled ozy thanks to her grail mudShe can summon tsunamis of over 4km height and in seconds she can flood the entire worldIn her larva form (3rd planetary class) she fights divine tiamat, divine enkidu, tamamo, berserker kintoki, jetbro and camelot mash all alone and she leaves because she's bored after a bit (mash confirms she didn't even have a single scratch)In her 1st planetary form it took chaldea a camelot mash, grand hassan, grand noah, 9 seals arthur and grand/beast candidate merlina to defeat her once (not kill her), only for her to return and slowly regain her power.Before she could get to 100% she fought camelot mash, musashi, apostle muramasa and alter ego draco and gets defeated again.She survives again and you play the arcade collab.
>Morgan Indeed. The presence of Mélusine hampered the outbreak of an Evil of Humanity. >Morgan Black Dog Barghest, the “Calamity of the Beast”. Her nature was clearly foretold. >Morgan Do you see more clearly what that spiteful bug worked so hard to orchestrate?
>>553147448Halphas is extra tasty
>>553147469>brainwashing for the seductive aspectRipping off Beast III>World-wide chaos tideRipping off Beast II>Pillars stronger than amon-ra Ozy and servant lion kingRipping off Beast IDespite her disliking other Beasts, she sure likes to steal shit from them. I thought Nero was a shit artist, but less a plagiarist.
I want Patxi back as a party member!
>>553146370>Goetia is stated as having surpassed Solomon.It's not that Goetia surpassed Solomon, but he thought he did because he actually moved his ass while Solomon did nothing. Lev reaffirms that Goetia is nothing but Solomon's Shadow.All these Grand Orders that can do a lot of good and fuckery to the Human Order have Solomon as its source. Plus, you need to remember the Age of Men in the official timeline begins with Solomon's death. He's a very lore-relevant figure, beyond the HS and Servant wank, in TM as a whole because it also stays this way in Tsukihime where Servants are irrelevant.The Two Beasts that caused the incident in FGO, that made FGO happen, are human supplementary protocols from Solomon, either directly or by a proxy descendant, and the source is also God (Solomon said it). God = Root is very much established as fact with Maris Chaldeas.I'd like to read Nasu's full lore vomit of this shit.
>OC is not complete yet.Was that rumours about the foreigner OC happening after the finale real?If so it would be genuinely retarded for the ending to not change, two incomplete simultaneous arcs and neither having an effect on the main duo's fate.
>>553147650>camelot mashDid Arcade Mash even find out about Galahad?
>>553147897NTA but mats specifically said he surpassed Solomon. You get benefits upon becoming a beast. If you don't move your ass or possess the inclinations to be a beast then, uh, sucks for you?
>>553147897Lev is a retard. The other Demon Gods were smarter than him.Bael creating an insane plan just to drop a meteor on (You) and Raum appealing to insanity were KINO plans that Solomon can only dream of...Zepar? Every family has its weak link.
>>553148017Pretty obviously. Nasu said there was going to be a Foreigner chapter and its timing would be "surprising".
>>553146171Olga definitely was not planned to be a major figure beyond the intro, she didn't get a heroine/protagonist face until later.
>>553144798>fagwain beating meltThis is so retarded and disrespectful to ccc fans
>>553147878>>brainwashing for the seductive aspect>Ripping off Beast IIIWooooah there. Goetia had nothing to do with Lion King, but ignoring that, being the seductive bitch who ruins great men was always Harlot's territory. If anything, Kiara is the one encroaching on it. Admittedly, it's a bit awkward.
>>553144882>>553140970>>553140435The other day, we were discussing how ironic it was that Kiara had created a digital singularity inside SERAPHIX to evade the Counter Force and mature as a Beast, only for Melt to turn that setting against her. Kiara even prepared herself to fight Grands, Rulers, and Saver, yet ended up dying because of Sakurafaces. Again.And then she jobbed to Kama. It's her fate to always lose to Sakurafaces, even when she's on the good side.
>>553148054Zepar was the only pillar that nearly destroyed humanity with his plan C bullshit.Entirely by accident of course, but still.
>>553147020kek the nips are alright
>>553148054>Bael creating an insane plan just to drop a meteor on (You)Bro would have won, if he didn't bother and just lured you to Shinjuku. You were rayshifted like 500 meters in the air with no Servant. If good Moriarty didn't catch you, you'd be a splatter on the ground.
>>553148170Manga predates FGO. This happened before the CCC Collab boosted Melt's popularity. Palladion was also eventually retconned into an anti-world, EX-ranked NP. Besides, what he said >>553147136
Lilith wishes she could hate Trashu like Bael hated Guda
>>553148206>Goetia had nothing to do with Lion King,Yes, but the singularities and Demon Pillars, were very much stolen from him.>And then she jobbed to Kama.Didn't she deliberately not go full Beast mode, because she wanted to stick around as a Servant? In the post-Ooku part, she literally had her in the palm of her hand.
>>553148054Lev is the one who flexed multile supernovas and connected casuality, space-time and made space traveling possible for Chaldea.The other demon gods couldn't do jackshit.
You're exactly right! This bitter pain in my chest, this fire that sears my flesh... I know just where it comes from!It's not because our 3,000-year plan was ruined.Nor because Heroic Spirits prevented the incineration.It's not even thanks to that detestable Solomon returning his ring to the heavens.No, there is something else behind all of that.One person responsible for how things turned out....You!I admit it. I have no right to blame you for this.There is no justification for taking out my anger on you.No, there is only hatred. Hatred.Hatred, hatred, hatred, HATRED!I can't feel anything but hatred!Hatred for you!Why did you come here? How did you arrive on this planet, in this time, at that place!?If you were a hero who had surpassed the bounds of humanity, I would be convinced! If you were a demon king who ate humans, I could accept it!But you're nothing more than a common, ordinary man!And even then, you still destroyed everything!I was only able to endure the humiliation of running away so that I would be able to kill you!I'm not killing you in order to destroy the world.I'm destroying the world in order to kill you!
Lev will never live down Septem honestly, what the fuck was he thinking
Oh this is the bad kind of fgog loretalk. Just insufferable on both sides.
>>553148231Kiara at least got to kill Guda, unlike the pathetic jobber that was Maris. Seriously, if you are a Beast that makes Kiara look good and competent, you should kill yourself.
>>553148045Goetia was still without revelations and other stuff.
>>553148443Well, Bael was a legit Avenger and even kinda foreshadowed the whole "Can do nothing but burn in fury, even knowing that its pointless" He even admits himself that the revenge is senseless, and won't bring back Goetia or salvage the plan, but hates Guda too much either way.
>>553148231Zepar had a pretty good plan, huh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2deFQyEk2gservants for this feel
>>553148054>The demon took the appearance of Romani Archaman because he believed that if he eventually saved the world, Romani Archaman would be the one who deserved the credits for it. He believes that, being on the side who admitted defeat, none of the accomplishments in the remainder of his life belong to himself.Lev's goal was to save the world. Not to destroy it.
>>553148643>the pathetic jobber that was MarisA jobber?! Please explain, that does not compute.
Remember that this is the Postgame.Outside collabs are on the table now.Will you roll for the Tarnished, Sporkle, and Joker?
>>553148730>Posess Nun/psychologist>Show Nun a timeline where she is some deranged super powerful cult leader who almost raped the planet>Destroy nun's conscience so that she is even closer to the above version>Nun decides to become that version>You are now weaker than nunBro definetly had A plan, but not necessarily a good plan.
>>553147136>>553147490Hollow shell or not, I'd totally sleep with her. She was perfect.Besides, without their skills and body alterations, wouldn't that mean Lip and Melt were closer to being normal human girls in that?
>>553147878Nero was always a shit artist...
>>553148812He even has a moody witch companion.
>>553148862Probably meant how she was reduced to a begging and SEETHING crybaby with each tree Chaldea took down.
>>553148591>Love is stronger than HateCHECKS. OUT.
>>553143587Fou and Lev left to an unknown location. While Sherlock stayed during the collapse
>>553149020You forgot that Zepar had sex with humans via her body:>Kiara offered no resistance in handing her body over to me. I truly felt that her devotion, passion, and respect for me were genuine.>I (as a Demon God, no less!) felt good about the situation and used Kiara's intelligence and social standing to effectively control the oil rig.>Kiara's body proved to be an exceptional tool in my dealings with the opposite sex.>No matter who they were or what they did, none resisted the temptation it offered.>I learned much about human pleasure during that time.>Of course, I truly would have been better off not knowing. Demon Gods have no need for pleasure.>For a spiritual being like myself, the pleasures of the flesh proved to be too much, and I found myself increasingly unable to escape their allure.>Human niceties, the stimuli that come from relationships, even pleasures that incorporate spirituality... Before I knew it, I was begging Kiara to help me understand.He's actually such a retarded Demon God
I just watched the ending song.It was nice that at least the people behind it realized what was the most important thing in a gacha game, the fucking characters you roll for.
*sniiiiiiff*
>>553149379>tfw no Zepar chan mindbreak in 10 years
>>553149379What pussy does to a mf
>>553149284>>553149375I hope Lev actually survives Final somehowTask Done means he's done working for Chaldea, doesn't mean he's dead
>>553149379Can't beat the cock
>>553148643Kiara is one of the most competent Beasts all things considered
>>553149379Each demon has an oneitis with a human after they broke the colony. It could be platonic like Raum with Abby, or not. In Flauros case, it was Roman. In Bael case, it was Moriarty, in Phenex case, it was Shez; Andras got Hijikata, and Zepar got Kiara.
>10 years of FGO>still no Jannu that deals bonus damage to the English
>>553149676And it was almost always an abusive relationship in some way.
>>553149676Raum was the smartest though, he just fucked up by going ballistic on Sheba for no reason and screwing his cover. Otherwise he'd have won.Zepar just lost before we even got there
>>553149780portraying the English as the bad guys is hard to Nasu I think
>>553149379Sissified Demon Pillar..
>>553149602His goal is to give you SSR Limited Solomon (Romani Archaman) for the 15th anniversary (speed of FGO to address the subplots they got hanging).>>553148857He is indeed done, but maybe he can be as a wee pillar/big cat animation for Solomani as his most faithful demon.
>>553149608>>553149379>>553149543>>553149664Somehow, Kiara organizing orgies almost ended the world and ruined Marisbury's plan.
>>553149379Not the DGP (Demon God Pillar) turning into an AGP..
>>553149664Technically the one truly competent Beast is Batschizo because he "won" against his humanity.
>>553149379>Zepar liked getting pounded in Kiara’s body.
>>553149780>10 years of FGO.>still no English servant that deals bonus damage to all Indian servants.
>>553149916>Lev returns as the new mascot or comascot with Fou, a leopard cub with multiple eyes and a top green hat>plushie sales increase
>>553149602Lev kills himself in 2015 in PHH to block Gaytia.
For a spiritual being like myself, the pleasures of the flesh proved to be too much, and I found myself increasingly unable to escape their allure.
>>553149995Maris doesn't care what happens in the past. The future is set in stone.
>>553150406Introduce him to merlin and dickgirl magic
>>553150406Imagine he has to go back to the hivemind after doing this shit
>>553150406Ok, let's see Zepar's quick introduction from wikipedia>Zepar is a Great Duke of Hell. He commands 26 legions of inferior spirits. His office is to cause women to love men, and bring them together in love. He makes women barren. He is depicted with red clothes and armor, like a soldier.This makes it even more funny
>>553150406>Was using Kiara’s body to give blow jobsDon’t let the other demon pillars find out about this….
>>553150017>BatschizoI'm Mexican, and even I'm baffled by how hard Nasu wanked Camazotz. I understand Tez and Quetz being so powerful, but Camazotz?
Who tops? Lev or Roman?
>>553150624I like to imagine that Levtia would randomly remember him going "KIARA-SAMA IKU IKU IKU IKU IKU SHINUGURAI IKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuu".
Because camazotz sounds funny haha
How would you feel if Marisbury came back but as a shota?
I want Mozart Demon God alt Servant. And Zouken = Barbatos.
>>553150624I don't think they'll let him back after he whored himself out like that
does olga still have powers or what
>>553149608Kenjaku?
>>553144798I still think Numeral of the saint should have just given nigh invulnerability. If something was gonna go straight through someone, a 3 times defense boost isn't gonna stop that from happening. Writers already don't treat it like a defense boost but rather like invulnerability anyway.
>>553150998Yeah, it's a problem. 3x durability is not much. Gawain can still be cut by regular strikes in base.
>>553150850Brobatos...
>>553149664They all fuck around too much:>Goetia could have killed you at any point, even having a direct fight in London, but instead threw piss metaphors around>Tiamat was openly sealing herself up (granted she was legit insane and trying to stop herself)>Kiara was competent, but still let Melt run away the first time around>Kama had a decent plan, but basically fucked around so much that her right hand dude was setting up countermeasures in front of her, and she let him>You could write a whole essay about Koyanskaya's fuck ups>Fou is hard to judge since he never went active>Draco was somehow failing to suicide like three times, and left everyone live after Babylon>Batschizo could have ripped Nito's head off like five times over, if he wasn't thinking with his dick.>Maris started out strong with the antarctica fakeout, but turned into a complete retard the second it came to a direct confrontation. And even before she could have killed Chaldea like ten times over
>>553145932Why do people hate her? She seems fun.
>>553150697He's just the primordial king of Ka'an. He has nothing actually to do with Camazotz the god of PHH beyond an association with bats. It was as good a name as any other.
Why is ordeal call above part 2 in the archive???
Feels like Camazotz was wanked at the EXPENSE of Tez, more than anything.
>>553150697I mean he is not the "real" God Camazotz, he was basically just a king that had all of humanity roid him up via human sacrifice, because the alternative was death to Big Spider.
>>553150918Probably, but since they're U-Olga's powers so if she uses them too much it probably increases Azrael's suspicions.
>>553151176ORT also fucked around too much>ORT let a batschizo pull out his heart and didnt just disintegrate him on the spot>ORT let Kuku run rampant and got blown up by his own heartevery villain aside from Morgan has been grossly incompetent. Morgans issue was existing in Fae Britain
>>553150697I mean him not actually being 'zotz aside I can kind of see it. During the Popol Vuh he's just about the only guy who gets anything done when the two dudes are raiding xibalba. iirc he's the only guy who just in general does anything to the protagonists while the other gods of xibalba keep jobbing
>>553151369He was. The only reason he became a Beast and defeated ORT is because Nasu liked his design.
>>553151760ORT disintegrated Camazotz plenty, it just didn't stop him.ORT also can't command Kukulkan.. it has no brain with which to do so.
>>553150709Romani. Since Lev keeps calling familiars nothing but trash (he himself is a familiar). Lev is fucking weird...
>>553151176>Not citedShe won
>>553151760Morgan was too competent for her own good, ironically. Fae britian was a lost cause that she didn't want to give up due to sunk cost and general britian autism
>>553150406Whore.
>>553151760ORT didn't lose to either Camazotz or Kuku, he lost to Malla.
>>553150998Story-wise, the characters treat it as invulnerability, since the OG EXTRA. But materials and skill descriptions state that it's just a 3x defense. Not sure why this discrepancy has been allowed to exist for so long. Reminds me of the mess that is Heracles' Nine Lives and immunity (now treated as adaptability).But some are simply pissed off because that skill triggered Melt's death. Admittedly, she was so fine in that manga, but she was doomed anyway, even without Numeral.
>>553150850>Mozart Demon God alt ServantWhy would he be a Demon God?
>>553151245We love Manaka here
>>553152041>Nine LivesGod hand, my bad
>>553151132>>553152041It was annoying in the Camelot movie too. Bedivere by all rights should have killed Gawain several times over but his blade keeps bouncing off like Gawain is invincible. It's just kind of lame to pretend as if it's a defense boost when for all intents and purposes it's invulnerability.
>>553152097God I love girl feet so much
>>553151245Because she's wanked to the hell and back but unlike other super wanked characters she doesn't have a good story or for (You) status to shield her from the rightfully deserved shit she gets.
HOPESISTERS IS TRU THAT HOPEMAN LINK TURNED INTO LINK BAD AFTER THE PROLOGUEANY SISTER CAN COMFIRM THIS???
>>553151884Lev probably jackoff to the video Roman beats the shit out Beryl.
>>553151307Because the Foreigner chapter is left.
>>553144498it's his first time too as a servant please be kind he just didn't know better
>>553152263>>553152041>>553150998EXTRA, CCC, Fox Tail, Camelot, all treat it as nigh invincibility when the skill's description doesn't say such a thing. It's stupid.>>553151245Same reason people dislike Musashi, Nero, and Olga. Wanked Mary Sues.
>>553150836It would make Mashu VA very happy if Marislily and ShotaRoman became a thing.
>>553152963>Olga>wanked mary sueShe's done basically nothing but eat shit and die this whole series, shit that was one of the big criticisms for the ending
>>553152963Anon, it triples his B+ grade endurance.B+, as we all know, is equivalent to 80 where A is 50. So triple is into 240. Where A+++ Endurance is 200.It's fucking practical invincibility, he becomes a tank that requires anti-fortress weaponry to start scratching.
>>553151245She's considered a mary sue. I love her.
>>553152963>Melt coughing blood as the sun is behind her and Galatine burns her heartSay whatever you want about it, but this manga is kino.
>>553153218Anon as brought up earlier in this thread, ranks are bullshit. People just treat it as invinciblity because narratively that's a lot easier than figuring out wtf "tripling" means
>>553152963>Olga>Mary SueShe has two modes: funny suffering, and real suffering.
>>553153292Gawain is kino if they let him shine instead of being potato gorilla man
Tezcatlipoca is the weirdest "chief god". He does not feel very strong at all. I think Karna or Herc could easily handle him for example, but LB7 made him sound like a big deal
>>553152097
>>553153360Ranks suddenly start to matter when you start going past values that anybody even HAS.
>>553153519I doubt he'd even be able to fight Quetz.
>>553153218b+ is not static. It's a temporary modifierYou can cut Gawain no problem if he's not using numerals.
camatotz is the strongest since he solo'd ort
Each new story chapter will have one Grand candidate and one Beast candidate except one Beast is Merlin and three of the Grands are Musashi, Logres, and Super Rama
>>553151884They did fuck up their king and master as thieves, and that happened to be the man he's got deep "friendship" feelings for. The self-loathing and guilt he must feel is crushing.
Ranks stopped mattering when they started giving out EX to everyone.
More nuncore servants
>>553153292And then it got retconned that she can turn into water to avoid projectiles and sword slashes, and that Palladion is EX.>>553153519He caused the end of the world thrice (IIRC). Indirectly and directly. Tez got the world destroyed by even manipulating other gods. He's not supposed to be the stereotypical UNGA BUNGA God. But rather a more powerful and troublesome Loki.
ushi gozen is stronger than gil
>>553153918Ex just means unranked, not above A.
>>553153519Because being the overpowered big energy beam guy isn't his role. He's a provocateur. That's simply his character.
>>553153589You're going to be so upset later this year
we love draco here
I wouldn't say that ranks are bullshit so much as they became bullshit. They were never perfect but they were generally useful for estimates. Gawain is from an era where ranks worked.Post-2014 after Apocrypha, ranks became worthless. NP ranks and stat ranks are uselss.Skill ranks are generally still working alright. Some exceptions here and there but typically higher-ranked general skills are better
>>553154123Why?Is something going to happen?
she should be stronger lorewise
>>553153989NTA, but usually when EX clashes against an A, EX wins. Ea vs Excalibur is the best example of this. Story-wise, A-ranked offensive NPs don't beat offensive EX-ranked NPs. That's how EX tend to be treated in the narrative. That's why Artoria needed Avalon to survive Ea.
>>553153989this mandela effect needs to fucking die.Ex was ranked so high that it could not be measured numerically. It was explicitly above A.
>>553153989That's what people say after ignoring how 9 times out of 10 EX is used by the writers as the step above A rank for powerlevel wanking.
>>553153519Fitting for Aztec mythology, really. Tezcatlipoca was the creator god but the sun passed crowns. Huitzilopochtli was the most important god for those living in Tenochtitlan.
Reminder that Nasu went on record to say that A-ranked NPs could not one-shot Herc and that you'd need something of EX to do so.>Nasu: It does take an EX rank Noble Phantasm or the A rank Saber to defeat Berserker in a square fight. He is quite literally a killer of mediocre heroes.EX was meant to be for powerlevels. Then they soft-retconned it around FGO.
>>553154263strong slut
>>553153980Ibuki Douji is stronger than Gil
Arthur maybe never be grand saber because artoria cockblocks him but if he fights against manaka and the beast i can feel it, he will be the first saver class servant
HF, CCC and FGO have the same message>what do Sakura's servants Medusa and Angra Mainyu have in common? Being innocents who were demonized and wrongly persecuted by the ones around them>Killing Dark Saber means growing up>MC convince Nurse Sakura to go with him in the real world.>He get his real body back and Sakura, symbolic of having a "Yamato Nadeshiko" type, the "idealised Japanese woman." is next to him for whatever reason>Say goodbye to your servant, symbolic of letting go to Otaku trends and becoming a real adult>accept boring world, move on and become a salary man so you can be happy>get nympho wife so you can improve Japanese birthrate>Stop being a filthy otaku that uses media for escapism >Nintendo? Sega? PS2? Grow up, otaku>it's time for you to grow up, get a job and then a big titty wife and stop with all this escapism UBW nonsense>just get a big titty gf and get a job. it's that easy>Shirou was finally taking his own selfish needs seriously, which is what any healthy human being needs >HF final ending where literally the theme of the story actually comes together, about how the grail war was mistaken from the start and they needed to just let go of it, with Ilya tying together her character arc from the entire game about also putting her hatred aside and making peace with her family, when the other ending doesn't address shit and leaves you on a shitty note>the Yen is now almost as weak as the Turkish LiraNasu kinda hates Otaku and wants them to stop watching anime and live their lives, every writer that likes Nasu ends up copying his ideals. Which results in "Escapism isn't healthy, you should work a menial job and shut the fuck up, you aren't a hero, being a salaryman is the real heroism buddy".Kiritsugu was trying to tell Shirou that the real Seigi no Mikata are working Japanese salarymen
>>553154707gil beat her in samurai remnant
>>553152963>>553148170There used to be a time when Melt didn't have 3 Ex noble phantasms. And as another anon said, she doesn't even have access to Melt Virus in that fight, which would likely dissolve Numeral.
My cock is stronger than Gil.
>>553154747Kekthur actually doing something is even less likely than Memeahad.
>>553144498He impaled her with Excalibur and she fell into the pit where the Beast was gestating. He didn't throw her, she fell. The Beast subsumed her. Arthur, masterless, hit the Beast with an Excaliblast. It was ostensibly annihilated. Since Arthur was no longer anchored by a living master, he quickly disappeared. Verifying the facts on the scene and possibly doing cleanup wasn't really in the cards at the time.
>LevHe got to watch this sight for years...
>>553154762>Nasu kinda hates Otaku and wants them to stop watching anime and live their livesThe same goes for Anno and Miyazaki.
another nero alt will save fgo
the sakura 5 will always suck ass
>>553154587Jetbros...
>>553154309>>553154343>>553154351EX means it cannot be measured against the common ranks as it can go beyond or outside of it.NPs like Touta's infinite rice gourd or Nursery Rhyme aren't EX because they're stronger than Excalibur
>>553153145>She's done basically nothing but eat shit and die this whole seriesgood, should've kept it that way
>>553148231Phenex would've won if he went for Yakub instead of Schez.
>>553155180What if Riceman compresses his infinite rice into an infinite density Rice Blackhole????????
>>553155180Motherfucker...>They range from A~E. EX is in a league of its own, representing powerful to the extent of rendering comparisons meaningless.
>>553155058summer unbeast draco
>>553155035>MiyazakiElden Ring has endings where you become Lord or destroy the world?It has the theme of everything being a cycle, and becoming a Lord is only for 1000 years, just like rekindling the flame, but there isn't any reset
>>553155005he went INSAAAAAAAANEEEEEEE
Summer Draco won't even be Beast.
>>553154779He didn't? She beat everyone and Gil was the last when she was low on energy.
>>553155180>NPs like Touta's infinite rice gourd or Nursery Rhyme aren't EX because they're stronger than ExcaliburYou don't know that. How is Artoria supposed to aim, charge, and fire Excalibur when she's getting crushed by infinite tons of rice from all sides?>>553155285Oh, burned.
>>553155374*unbeast
>>553155180Sure, we get that. We understand that there are EX skills and NPs that are EX because they are weird. But you need to understand that most EX ranks are handed out to powerwank energy beams and ungabunga attacks because the writers treat EX as just the bigger A rank since Nasu won't let anyone else use A++ or A+++.
Who cares about power levels.Who has the objective best design out of any beast?
Bros I did it I killed a god!
>>553155005Nyoooo, I myust make lyev happy, it is my dyuty as myaster
>>553155551>>553155551>>553155551
>>553155510Goetia
>>553155448Other than with the U-Medal I don't think anyone is getting that class besides Olga.
>>553155403based strategist gil
>>553155440its such an easy to find statement too and people still ignore it
>>553155285>a league of its own>rendering comparisons meaninglessYes.Producing infinite rice is powerful and in a league of its own. Making it meaningless to compare it to a blade beam which destroys cities because you can't do it with rice.That's the entire point.If you want me to pick another example, Edison's NP weakens mystery until it reaches 0. Which is virtually useless in 90% of cases.But it has an effect that can't be compared to anything else as a result.
>>553155456>Nasu won't let anyone else use A++ or A+++That is pretty fucking retarded
Touta’s rice killed Masakado it’s stronger than Excalibur.
>>553155670Nasu was in the right here because when you look at the list of the A++ retcon that happened, Sakurai and Higashide were giving that shit to everybody.
>>553155403She wasn't low on energy though. She said she was at full power. And what anon probably means is that Ibuki got into that predicament because he beat her using her legend and weakness to alcohol. Even though Ibuki said that she never let down her guard. She had to be rescued.>>553155636Funny how you missed the entire meaning by fucking ignoring the operative word.>REPRESENTING POWERFUL TO THE EXTENT OF RENDERING COMPARISONS MEANINGLESSThere is no comparison because EX is way stronger than A.>EdisonWhy the hell should I care? My whole point was that the writers fucking forgot how the ranking as SUPPOSED to work, and that ranks are bullshit nowadays.
>>553155915>>553155915>She wasn't low on energy though. She said she was at full powerShe definitely wasn't. The whole point of Ibuki's story is that she was meant to fight every Servant in the game in order to exhaust her magical energy so she could leave. Gil was the last one she fought.>Ibuki got into that predicament because he beat her using her legend and weakness to alcoholThere was nothing like that. Ibuki literally fought Gil 1-on-1 and she won.
>>553152046He becomes a vessel in Salieri's interlude.
>>553152575Super Hopeman link was always link bad.
>>553156262SHe was definitely at full power. Those were her words. You're confusing magical energy output for reserves.>There was nothing like thatSo you didn't actually play it. Ibuki was imprisoned as one of the methods of disposing of her that Gilgamesh thought of. He got her in that collisseum by poisoning her with alcohol from gate of babylon.>buki literally fought Gil 1-on-1Nobody denies this. She just lost the first time.
>>553157702Output is affected by reserves, which is the entire reason why Servants low on magical energy are weaksauce.>He got her in that collisseum by poisoning her with alcohol from gate of babylon>She just lost the first timeThat was literally not a fight by definition, nor was that alcohol thing a trick Gil could use in a proper fight, otherwise he would have used the same thing in their actual battle.
>>553155580I think the King of Humans might.
>>553135642She IS a test experiment thoughMashu is her sisterHe built them all on a lab
