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Twisted Wonderland is a Disney game about a magic school and anime boys.

>Schedule
[JP] New Years ends 14/1 14:59 JST
[EN] New Years ends 17/1 23:59 PST

>Current Gacha
[JP] SSR New years Idia/Leona
[EN] SSR New years Jack/Malleus

>Upcoming Gacha
[EN] SSR Overblot Malleus

>/twst/ pastebin (Hasn't been touched in fucking years)
https://rentry.org/twstfaq
>TWST wiki
https://twistedwonderland.wiki.gg/wiki/Twisted_Wonderland_Wiki
>Official Sites
https://twisted-wonderland.aniplex.co.jp/
https://disneytwistedwonderland.com/
>Official Twitter Accounts
https://twitter.com/twst_jp
https://twitter.com/twst_english

Translations of recently released content:
https://pastebin.com/byykAAyy

Previous Thread: >>550323029
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I didn't even notice we'd hit the limit. Would've kept chattering about time loops and Ruggie fucking until the thing archived.
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New Thread and soon Book 8, what are you most looking forward to in the new arc? What do you want to happen or expect to happen?
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>>553223006
pretty tako
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>>553213225
I love this artist lol
>>553207129
The timeloop notion sounds so ridiculous to me every time I hear it, but I guess we should never say never.
>>553208670
Hopefully kill or don't kill the "Raverne is Crowley" theory for good (personally on the side of "he isn't", but I wouldn't be mad if he is).
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>>553236067
I want Crowley to be Raverne partly because it'd be funny as fuck, partly because I'm a sucker for dramatic twists. I also think it'd be cool if he's somehow possessed by the literal crow from Snow White, be him dead or alive.
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>>553236067
But imagine all the fan art of Crowley/Lilia and Crowley and Malleus that could emerge.
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>>553258651
I'm not against it!! I just think it's too obvious to be true!!
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>>553258651
Nobody would care so no
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>>553238558
I am also team "I want it to happen because it would piss off just so many people." Yana tends to be more subtle than that so it doesn't seem guaranteed, but at the same time being subtle doesn't exactly work with this damn fandom of people as mentally mature as Malleus Draconia, so maybe she decided to take the obvious route just to spite us. "Can't figure out shit for yourself? Fine. The writing on the wall is now neon and glowing."
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I'm sure he'll be Raverne but quite frankly I've had enough Diasomnia family drama for a few years
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>>553271368
But I think we didn't see much of Malleus in Book 7, and Lilia disappeared right at the beginning.
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>>553276070
Doesn't it just feel that way because chapter 7 was so insanely long? When you count the actual amount of time spent with them, I don't think it was much less than we got with the house members of other books. Compared to the early houses, it was likely even more.
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>>553277195
I don't think this was a problem in Books 4 and 5, where I think the dorm characters appeared quite a bit, but in Book 6, though I'm not sure.
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>>553265557
What? That shit would hit the fandom like a truck
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i love twisted but the anime was shit.. well hearstlabyul are my least fav group
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>>553276070
I am lizard liker and I agree, didn't see him that much, 5 years into the game now and honestly haven't seen him actually be in the spotlight like the rest. I am excited for his shenanigans in book 8 he can finally laugh and cry without accidentally killing someone
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>>553289068
Can't wait for 1000 years from now when the Diasomnia manga comes out and we see lonely baby Malleus at the end.
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>>553258651
>>553265557
I care so hard. I neeed confirmation that Lilia is fucking that entire family. I don't know why it's so funny to me but it is.
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>>553258651
>Crowley and Malleus
I get why this is not slashed but kinda funny to me because when the trailer dropped, there were jp theories going around that the 'taboo' thing Crowley is trying to do is resurrection, and some of the Crowley is Raverne crowd theorized he's trying to bring his wife back, using Malleus as a vessel. Make of that what you will kek
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>>553290884
Don't forget Sebek's grandfather and perhaps Silver's biological father. Lili
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>>553290884
Honestly I don’t want more Diasonmia drama. Ep7 is more than enough.
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>>553293436
Well what we both want or don't want doesn't matter, it's gonna be whatever it's gonna be whether you or I like it or not.
For all that my opinion is irrelevant, though, I'd rather 300 more chapters about Diasomnia drama than even two seconds of them trying to make the player character relevant. I am not here for a choose-your-own adventure book. Every time they acknowledge the player it feels like I'm watching Sesame Street. "What do you think, Prefect?" // "Yes / Yeah" - "Great idea, Prefect, you're so smart, charming, clever and interesting!"
I'd rather here more about Lilia and Baul fucking their way through war-torn territory, thanks very much. Not that those are the only two options or anything.
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>>553293436
It's going to be Diasomnia as the main helper but I don't know if it's going to be their family drama though. They are going to finally interact with all the other dorms more like
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>>553294301
Since there is a high likelihood of Vil being important as well, plot twist, MalleVil becomes canon, the yumes riot, I laugh. Also Baul is there, I like him.
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>>553292094
For all that Lilia is fun to slash with all of Briar Valley it's hard to find suitable partners for him at NRC. I can't really get on the IdiLili train.
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>>553294228
Sadly this might be Yuu/Grim-focused episode.
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>>553307265
My one true fear. One of two true fears, actually, that and that they'll keep increasing the Disney influence like they have been with the Diner event and stuff. Both are looking to come true, unfortunately.
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>>553311647
When they did the survey thing on JP last year I saw JPsisters taking screenshots of their feedback like "more disney characters!! I wanna see princesses/wacky animal sidekicks/more random disney shit in the game!" I was like nooo, for the love of god no, please don't. Take me back to the era of Beanfest and Scary Monsters when Yana was making all the content herself and it was amazing and had barely any mouse at all.
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>>553307265
>What I'm very excited to see
More than a glimpse of RSA
Malleus (and maybe Lilia) playing an active role this time around Crowley/Twistverse lore dumping
>What I don't look forward to
Grim/the self-insert/1st years and Mickey fucking Mouse being relevant
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>>553315224
I just hope they keep main story how it is right now cause that's still great and just the right amount of Disney and good spin to it. Speaking of, anyone here have any ideas on which movie they might be referencing for 8? Imagine if that's mainly its own thing now
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>>553315550
I will do my best not to make this sound rude and snarky because I am legitimately curious:
>More than a glimpse of RSA
Why in the ever-loving fuck why?
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>>553317057
Because I wanna see the Disney heroes/princesses as hot guys, simple as. Oh and their relationship dynamics with the NRC students.
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Poor Yana needs to stop making stuff so interesting. People out there complaining "Why don't we see more of RSA, who are completely irrelevant to the story and do not matter even a little bit? Why isn't there more information about this random thing that we have no reason to care about? This unknown person was mentioned once in a passing conversation three years ago, how dare she not further elaborate?" And then go off and complain that Book 7 was too long.

>>553317609
Nothing against you personally, anon. Just wanted to bitch about entitled, whiny children on Tumblr for a bit there.

>wanna see the Disney heroes/princesses as hot guys
Okay that's based. I don't care about their relationship dynamics though. What dynamics could they possibly have? Do you think any NRC guys would be caught dead hanging out with any of them for fun? Not even the goody-goody infant team of Epel, Sebek, Deuce and Jack would do that. Chenya is top tier but he also barely counts, probably stole Silver's RSA letter and swapped it with his own to NRC for laughs.
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>>553315550
>maybe Lilia
They had that whole thing about Malleus needing to hold hands with Lilia to cast powerful magic in 7.5 I'm almost certain that's gonna be our panic button to get out of things. That or the plot is gonna try the hardest to keep these two apart so we don't have that get out of jail card, either way though those two are probably gonna important
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>>553318064
I genuinely would like to know what keeps you guys returning to Reddit and Tumblr when the fans there are unconsciously just walking ragebait everywhere you turn. Is there something of value that I don't know about!?
>>553315550
I'd like to see more RSA as well at some point (would prefer a single event rather than main story feature), mostly because it's funny when our boys are one-sidedly being massive seething bitches to the students there.
The initial draw of the cast for me was that they suck so I like when it's highlighted.
Ideal RSA event for me is some interschool competition again. Would be hard to make it fresh when they've already done "get really intense about competing against RSA boys, lose, pound sand, I laugh" twice, though.
They shouldn't be hanging out.
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>>553319937
If they're not gonna compete and they're not gonna hang out, then the remaining option is...teamwork? RSA just doesn't seem that interesting to me, though. Especially after what we saw in Glomasu. They do good-guy things and the inside of their heads is the sound of a microwave oven, that's RSA.
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But did anyone else find it suspicious how Book 7.5 placed so much emphasis and information on the disputes between the two schools? They talked a lot about it and gave new information on how the competition between the schools works, how the disputes are structured, and that's why I think the competition between the schools will happen and maybe RSA boys will appear, perhaps in Book 8 or 9.
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>>553326129
Does anyone really believe we're not gonna see this inter-school competition happen? It wasn't just in 7.5 this thing was talked about. The real question is how much of RSA we will get to see, will they even be properly designed characters or just faceless mobs. I personally hope they will have actual designs so they look more like big shots and believable if NRC loses again, because if that's gonna happen I prefer seeing we lose to hot man Elsa than a no eyes NPC
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>>553326129
Agreeing with >>553327216, I don't think they were hinting at a sudden RSA arc or whatever. I think they're building up to the next bit, the interscholastic tournament, which they've been name-dropping since 2020. It's not suspicious, it's the natural progression of the story, going in the exact direction they said it was gonna go.
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>>553318151
Don't take apart my babies they are a set etc.
But yeah no I am absolutely betting that nerfing Malleus' magic is a big part of the overall thing here, someone wanted him not-all-powerful, and now he isn't. Shoutout to that one ener who was whining back in the day about how Yana fucked up her own story by having Malleus be ultra powerful, turns out that the person who wrote the story has more information than the readers. Crazy.
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Interesting how Crowley was originally a Diasomnia member I guess? And his Sleeping Beauty elements were far more obvious.
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>>553346765
Never understood this game, is this BL or an otome? Last time I checked there was a girl as (you)
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>>553353013
It's an otome. There's a Male MC option but it's tacked on and the game's clearly designed around playing as a woman. That being said it's also more sexually depraved, I suppose, than the other porn joseimukes on the market (which is how it manages to survive despite shooting itself in the foot constantly) and this means characters are fine doing things that wouldn't happen in other games.

Paimon is cute.
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>>553347605
Since Silver probably didn't exist or hadn't even been conceived yet, Yana likely already had the idea of having a father-son duo in that dorm together!
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>>553357704
is Paimon romanceable?
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>>553369028
The game's unfortunately pretty focused on the 7 kings of hell and the 3 main angels for gacha sex scenes but a lot of characters have sex scenes in the main story, Paimon is one of them.
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>>553347605
While we're on the subject, I always felt like the two guys here who didn't make it into final Diasomnia were what got splintered off into Azul and the Leech twins.
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>>553372213
Yeah, proto Silver was definitely a mix of Azul and himself, no wonder these 2 could pass as siblings. Also, proto Lilia still a cute.
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>>553347605
Pretty sure "a drawing of Crowley has been placed next to a drawing of Malleus" does not equate to "Crowley was a member of Disasomnia." That is some wild mental gymnastics there.
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>>553378925
No, but I'm sure that the purple/black/green and having the little fairy godmothers equates to "Crowley was a member of Diasomnia"
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>>553378925
How dense can you be?
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>>553379941
No, pretty sure his color palette at the time was just pretty close to Diasomnia? She did not take a student and decide "Hey, let's make this one the headmaster just for fun."
>>553380507
I know, right? Go figure an ener would be that dense. Jamil is next to Crowley, so I guess >>553347605 thinks that he was in Diasomnia, too? Weirdo.
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>>553382134
Not sure if you're trolling or just genuinely retarded
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>>553383158
You're right, it makes way more sense that after writing the story and character backgrounds and designing the entire cast to the point that they were practically complete Yana suddenly decided to promote one, single student from Diasomnia to the position of headmage and redo the entire dynamic of the game to suit it. That makes a lot more sense than "Crowley, this character who is already set as the headmage of the school and has Sleeping Beauty elements, maybe should be designed a little more like the other characters who also have sleeping beauty elements? No? Well it was an idea I guess." I heard that she was torn between promoting Crowley or Jamil to Headmage, and that is why they are arranged next to one another on the table. Could've been either one, really. I wonder what would've happened if the coin flip had given us Jamil instead.
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>>553346765
>>553353013
>>553357704
Is that Tokyo Debunker? I thought it looked interesting until I realized how heavily the chick is emphasized. Are there no visual novels where you read them like a novel, without ham-fisted attempts to pretend that the reader is a part of the story? For people who don't need constant affirmation that they're the center of the universe?
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As we all know, game development is a totally linear process and no elements of the story ever receive rewrites or redesigns pre-release, and it certainly has never happened late into development
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>>553387248
It's a game called What in Hell is Bad and it's a yume-type porn gacha. The actual game kind of has the problem of doing everything it can do wrong but the characters are pretty good and it's kind of batshit insane
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>>553387518
She said in the interview outright that she submitted the plot to disney first and foremost and that's how she got the job in the first place. Pretty sure Crowley not being a student is probably a liiittle important to the plot, maybe?
This is real great though, I haven't seen a thought process as retarded as "Crowley used to be a student, based on the proof I have of these two drawings placed next to each other" in a long time.
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>>553384406
Anon, I'm not trying to be mean here and just genuinely a little confused either you are assuming something or you have information that we don't have. How do you know at what point of development these sketches were made? These seem like very early development to me.The Malleus isn't even that close to another set of sketches with a bunch of headshots of the other dorm leaders. There was a point where Ignihyde had only one kid
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>>553387754
>characters are pretty good
Based on those character designs alone, I think we might have different interpretations of "pretty good." To each their own, though.
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>>553388537
I am equally, genuinely confused, which is where we come into conflict with one another. He is not wearing the Diasomnia uniform in that photo, while proto-Malleus and proto-Lilia are. Do you not see the neon-green lapels? The matching buttons? You honestly, sincerely believe that it is more logical that Dire Crowley was actually designed here as a 16-to-18-year-old-passing character, with his little suit tie and fancy Director's jacket, and was studying magical history and being taught by Crewel? I have never seen anything more obvious than "early design of NRC's headmage" in my life. "This confirms that Crowley was originally a student" is so far out of left field that I suspect you might be that anon from last year who pick fights after not taking their meds and then accuse the rest of us of not taking meds.
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>>553389491
Ooo speaking of people bitching at each other, remember that cat fight about how Malleus' magic was described in the savanaclaw novel? It's coming out in english this month. Maybe we'll get some closure?
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>>553389491
Nah I'm a different anon altogether and really confused. I didn't even said anything about agreeing that Crowley was a student, chill man. I was just wondering when you mentioned Yana submitting the entire plot and deciding to change the one thing. That seemed like there was some information I was missing, like you knew exactly at which point these sketches were made and I wanted to know because I was curious
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>>553388329
As we know, she submitted the entire script of books 1-7 to disney and they never changed anything at all from that draft. Nothing was ever tweaked or changed from that point onward
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>>553384406
>>553388329
>>553389491
Holy fucking straw man. Crowley being a student was just a personal assumption but looking at >>553372213 , it's pretty safe to assume these were drawn during the same period, meaning that indeed proto Crowley was supposed to be the headmaster or a faculty member from the beginning. STILL, that doesn't change the fact that he was strongly related to Diasomnia and Sleeping Beauty in general.
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>>553390456
It's adorable that you think you're funny anon, keep on with the "student crowley" truthism, we're rooting for you.
>>553390215
>you knew exactly at which point these sketches were made
That's dumb, no one knows that. But "student crowley" is a retarded theory and I have never been on ground zero for a retarded theory before. It's a fascinating look into the mental gymnastics of some people.
>>553390574
> STILL, that doesn't change the fact that he was strongly related to Diasomnia and Sleeping Beauty in general.
I know, that's what I said back in >>553384406 thanks for the vote of confidence, though.
>>553389685
I am equally fascinated by and terrified of what the English of that book will be. If they remove even one of the 300 references to Leona having a beautiful face I will be writing such an angry letter to no one in particular.
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>>553390574
I think the full dorm pictures were definitely produced at a later period than the single character designs. We can see Ur-Malleus has had horns added to his design and Ur-Lilia has lost his hat horns, maybe he was originally the one based off Maleficent? if so it's entirely possible that the Crowley design was originally for a predecessor to Sebek or Silver before being repurposed as Crowley. Jack didn't even have any beast traits at this point and Pomefiore was pretty unrecognisable so who knows
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When it comes to cute, fun art, I feel like Octavinelle pulls in all the best artists.
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>>553391915
The single standing pic design of proto Lilia had way more feather elements, seems like they were gonna make him obviously Maleficent's crow. Wonder why they changed it to bat, really funny if it was just for the pun
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>>553392573
It's entirely possible. Wish we didn't have to play guessing games about it, though. If this was a dev from anywhere else they'd have uploaded high quality captioned scans of these pics to the internet but noooooo the Japanese have to have it as an in person one time event where you're not allowed to take photos so you have to play guessing games
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>>553393294
They could spell it out in 130 different languages with citations, indexed resources and a video interview with Yana herself (available in dub) and there would still be dumbasses out there like "I thought everyone was calling the MC 'perfect,' what do you mean they've been saying 'prefect'?"
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>>553394625
>"I thought everyone was calling the MC 'perfect,' what do you mean they've been saying 'prefect'?"
I'm guilty of this to be fair. I've known it's Heartslabyul for several years but I can never stop reading it in my head as Heartslaybul
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>>553395254
I'd say you get a pass cause that's a word that doesn't even exist. But playing the game, or even just watching videos of other people play the game, or even just interacting in the fandom and being legitimately convinced that the characters are referring to the Player as "perfect," and not thinking there is anything the slightest bit odd about that? No pass.
I saw YouTube comments of people talking about it the other day and have yet to get over it. No wonder people think it's an otome. "Perfect." For the love of god.
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>>553396992
I thought you were joking using an exaggeration wait back up you're saying people thinking it's perfect not prefect is a real thing there's no fucking way
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This one takes first place for being in English. Second place is the girl on Reddit who was telling people that Floyd calls the prefect "Love Beautiful" because they misheard ko-ebi (small shrimp) as koi-bi, which isn't actually a word in Japanese, but koi is one way to say "love" and "bi" is technically one way that the kanji for beautiful can be pronounced, so they made up a word in their head and decided it was canon to push their otome-game agenda.
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>>553398742
I've gone past getting mad at these and into wanting to study this in a lab. How does any of this even make sense contextually to them. The perfect thing is not even gramatically correct. How does one become this dumb and this confidently dumb. I wanna say are they 12 but I've definitely seen kids smarter than this
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>>553402508
Are there places on EN where the characters say "Prefect" as if it's a name, like JP grammar does? I don't play EN so I have no idea. If so, I can kind of guess that that person assumed that "Perfect" was the guys' nickname for them? "Hey, let's go to the school store, Perfect, I've got a thing I need to buy." Sounds real dumb, but at least the grammar would work in that context, kind of?
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>>553403281
I don't play en too. And just reading that sentence made me shrink back in my seat it's so awkward and out of character for them. how is it twst jp players regularly make fun of twst boys for being absolutely terrible boyfriends and wouldn't want to actually date someone like that irl and en just accepts these things as canon and push so hard for this to be otome. Feels like it's two different games, is how hilariously off-putting the boys can be not really translating well to en I wonder.
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>>553404594
Recently I've seen a few people talking about how en is rewriting dialogue to make the guys sound less like assholes, and I bet that is part of it, too. Maybe en is actively hunting the otome crowd and changing the content of the game to make them happy? That would explain a lot of the things I've seen people complaining about...
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>>553406651
That would also explain why they remove instances of Lilia calling Malleus a child. EN is trying to pimp out Malleus, but someone in the background commenting on how mentally/emotionally stunted he is takes away from the sexiness. Their business plan is apparently "get women to want to fuck these guys, even if you have to rewrite their dialogue to do it." And so that's what they do.
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How many of you can read JP vs how many of you rely on translators to understand JP's releases?

Me: read in JP, then double-check against translations.
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>>553418202
I guess I just don't really get why being immature and an understandable flaw for Malleus because of his isolated upbringing where he can only see his friend for like 10 minutes every 50 years or some shit takes away his charm, it's not like that's his only thing it's just a part of him as a whole. The game is hardly shota baiting with him, are they removing Lilia always bragging about looking like a cute young boy?
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>>553419731
If I recall correctly this board has a surprising number of JP speakers on it cause the game didn't have an english version for so long. Or at least it did back when there were more than like four of us here.
I read JP and avoid translators like the plague because someone will inevitably get something wrong, or go too crazy with localization, or people in the comments will misunderstand what they meant and try to stir drama where there isn't any. Dun need any of that.
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>>553420232
Not sure about Lilia. I know they take cute out of Cater's dialogue sometimes.
I just remembered, there was debate when Playfulland first dropped because EN was taking the word "beautiful" out of Kalim's dialogue and people were like "Well of course, teenage boys don't say the world 'beautiful,' they're making it more realistic." But then part like 3 or whatever of the event dropped, Kalim has that scene on the ride and says the word "beautiful" like ten times in a row and EN left it all in. And suddenly the "EN is better because it's more realistic" crowd stopped responding kek
They change the most unnecessary things, only keeping to canon when it forces their hand like that and gives them no choice. Are localizers paid by the word or something?
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>>553422557
My best guess is that a given event, for example, is being handled by multiple translators all working on various parts of the script with minimal context regarding how the other translators are handling it.
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>>553422557
>teenage boys don't say the world 'beautiful,' they're making it more realistic
I'm so glad I don't care about en, I thought they were the ones who love calling themselves more progressive and breaking the norm. It's hilarious seeing them say this when guess what teenage boys in real life don't wear heavy makeup heels and corsets to school too but whatever. Why are they applying real world norms so much to a fantasy world anyway but that's a whole other discussion and for that anon up there asking I'm another count to the 'reads in jp' crowd on here, as well as only read jp theories/analysis and watch jp YouTubers for twst. I really wanted to see what en says because it can be fun for a different perspective but sometimes it's not worth it, feels like discussions there are on a whole different spectrum than jp that I'm just not very interested in. It's fun here though
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>>553423010
That sounds...awful. What a bizarre way to handle a project like this. Who is that project manager and how many different games are they overseeing? I've seen people complain that fan translators are better but it's like, duh. Fan translators can autist-out about Twst and only Twst, specifically, but EN's teams are cranking out localization for multiple games simultaneously. Of course the people writing for EN don't actually know anything about Twst, they probably don't know anything any of the games they're working on.
This is all hearsay so grain of salt and whatnot, but I saw someone on Twt say that they went to a panel at a con where Aniplex USA revealed they only get text for localizing, they don't get any accompanying screenshots to show them what the guys look like as they're saying their lines.
All the JP stuff is on YouTube but maybe they get stuff too far in advance? Or doing research about what the real game looks like isn't in their statement of work so they're not paid enough to do it or something?
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>>553423396
>the people writing for EN don't actually know anything about Twst
No shit. They had Floyd calling Kalim by his nickname for Grim for the New Year's event. Whoever is in charge over there either doesn't know what they're doing or just doesn't care, and I don't know which is worse.
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>>553423307
>discussions there are on a whole different spectrum than jp
It really is practically an entirely different game. I take great joy in referring to JP as the "real" game when comparing them. Cause that's what it is. Tends to piss the eners off though, they don't like being reminded that they're playing a censored, watered down, typo-riddled, C-list imitation of the real thing.
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>>553421420
>avoid translators
I wish there was a socially acceptable way to correct people when their translations are wrong. I always feel like an ass so I've stopped doing it and just block and move on.
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>>553420232
Lilia himself is arguably shota bait. It is possible they've retained him referencing himself as a cute young boy to dissuade people from seeing him as a romantic option. But Malleus isn't allowed to be anything but a fully grown, wholly mature adult in both body and mind. He has to be exactly what he appears to be, no depth or flaws.
I just noticed that we don't really share screenshots on this board, do we. Is there a chance that most of us here actually play the game?
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>>553428324
Is shotajiji a thing the way lolibaba is...? Lilia just feels like a truly old man to me, maybe femboy bait at best.
Riddle's the only one that feels like true shota bait to me because of his personality and backstory. Ortho probably slots more neatly into the shota category than Riddle on paper, but he lacks Riddle's, uh, attractiveness lol
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>>553431680
Doesn't Yana have a tweet somewhere about how Riddle is mentally even more childish than he looks? He really is the baby. And yeah, the shota bait. I'd be wiling to bet there are a lot of self-shippers out there hiding from the antis.
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I had a dream and Leona was in it. All I remember was that he was wearing his school uniform and in a bed about to fuck somebody. Don't remember who it was.
And that got me thinking, is there like, etiquette about where you change clothes, maybe? Like if you're going into town right after class, a second-year poofing themself out of their uniform and into street clothes while still sitting at their desk is frowned upon? Are you supposed to get into the hallway at least? Or the courtyard? A bunch of guys bustling into the courtyard every Friday to poof themselves into street clothes and go down the mountain? Send tweet.
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>>553431680
>>553428324
In some vignette, I think it was in the Platinum Jacket one, Lilia mentions that in the past several people thought he was a young boy, right? And sometimes I think about this in the Western fandom, how they get annoyed with people being yummy with the first-year boys, but Lilia is definitely a shota. Several times it's said in the vignette how young he looks, and how does part of the fandom ignore this and pretend he's not a shota? That he actually looks like an old man?

And by the way, which characters do you consider shotas? Lilia, Ortho, Epel, and Riddle?
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>>553440740
It was a while ago and I can’t remember what the context was…I think maybe the Stitch event? I came across a thread of antis talking together like “now everyone remember that the characters are minors, there is to be no lusting after them unless you’re a pedo” and someone responded something like “I know I won’t be, I’m too busy lusting after grandpa,” in reference to Lilia.
And that exchange has always fascinated me. The mental gymnastics is astounding. Anyone who comments that Floyd looks damn good is a pedophile but Lilia is fair game despite having the body of a prepubescent boy because he is mentally 700, which somehow cancels out the fact that he looks like a prepubescent boy? To those people?

Anyway I think I see only Rido and Oru as our true shota but I might just be biased against Epel, can’t say for sure.
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Once again thinking about how much I miss BJewel. That was a fun time.
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New thread
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Third novel Yana
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>>553440740
Ortho might be the true one in terms of innocence on certain things like what it means to be human, age because he would still be kind of a toddler age if we follow by when Idia created him, and of course, young appearance and voice.
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>>553440740
>>553442454
Lilia isn't technically a shota but he's definitely a shotacon bait, Yana knew what she was doing when designing him.
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>>553452953
I love Yana. She knew exactly what she was doing with every damn thing. The most annoying people in the world are looking at Jack, Lilia, Malleus, Riddle, Tweels, etc., and breaking out their timelines and morality compasses to try and work out exactly which characters they’re allowed to ship with their OCs on main and which ones they’re gonna have to goon to on private accounts while condemning everyone else for being a sicko. Losing arguments with the voices in their own heads. It is delightful.
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>>553452953
I've seen some on JP call him lolijiji so is he more loli than shota
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>>553452953
>>553454461
Having this discussion about a war vet with a grown child just tickles me. I love twst
>>553440740
Even in the main story, Lilia gets mistaken for a child in his flashbacks of travelling the world. There's an old couple who save him form the cold and assume he's some kid until he tells them he's fae.
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>>553455870
Yeah the platinum vignette builds off of that, explains about how first he didn’t like it but then he realized that people would give him things because of it. When he’d first enrolled at NRC he leaned into it and let the upperclassmen do stuff for him all the time but now everyone has figured out he isn’t as innocent as he looks and he can’t get away with it anymore.
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>>553464317
I don't know, I find it hard to shit on other's taste on their fav twst boy. Might be the only game where I think all characters are top tier and each have great but very specific appeal. The only time someone's taste is worth shitting on is when they like a boy but has this completely mischaracterised view of them
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>>553509858
There is a certain boy whose fangirls are infamous for that. They get real angry when you show them screenshots of what he actually has said/done. Not here to talk about that, though, wanted to bring up a Yuukafag I saw the other day who had a whole thing made up in her head about how Yuuka is a quiet character who tries to keep people from paying attention to her and wears a chest binder and keeps a low profile. When presented with "actually no, all of that is wrong" facts they responded "Well I wear a chest binder for cosplay, and I would want to keep a low profile at NRC if I were her, and if I were Yuuka I wouldn't want to attract attention." They literally did not realize how little they knew about the character, all they cared about was that she was a vessel for them to project onto, and did so with such fervor that they rewrote what little personality Yuuka actually has.
It was fascinating. Some people really do not realize that not everything is about them.
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>>553509858
Yeah I can't bring myself to tier-shame people. Like what ya like guys, I don't give a fuck. Especially on an anonymous board where it matters even less than usual.
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