>>553429856
What fox is this?

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Konflict - when two foxes scheme to marry one man.

Damn foxes fluffed the thread

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Soon TM edition (seriously, the delay on this thanks to him working on the winter comiket book and stuff has been insane, doesn't usually get this close to the deadline)

Soothing edition (I just really like this picture)

Album of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyf
Friends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902u

The latest: coloured version of Neris and Lucifina comic https://catbox.moe/c/eua7xj

Turkey Reina: https://files.catbox.moe/sy22yg.png
https://files.catbox.moe/olejqs.png
https://files.catbox.moe/jcmxr8.png


Eden by Danegi

https://files.catbox.moe/jb85uo.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dqg059.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/5o3m57.jpg

Bonus Minagi sketch hidden in PSD layer.
https://files.catbox.moe/qblt06.jpg

Raw PSD, for the curious.
https://files.catbox.moe/g0x50e.psd

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>>553438868
Oh God, they're awakening!

We're here because the MITOCHONDRIA allows us to be here.

>>553430941
Why are foxes so popular?

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>>553443514
>cute
>funny
>fluffy
Why, indeed?

>>553443514
Because normies got one in League and that gave them visibility

>>553443514
I assume it's partially due to exposure, Japan likes their fox spirits after all. I'd assume dog girls would be a lot more popular if Tamamo no Mae was a dog, for example.

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Good morning.
One (1) Granberia for the road.

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>>553446309
Just one? We need to make more...

>>553446309
Cuteeee

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>>553447335
>We need to make more...
I'l get right on that.

>>553447431
>Cuteeee
Yeh.

>>553446309
It just dawned on me you don't see Granberia looking that happy ever. Doesn't help her headpiece makes her eyes look angry.

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>>553448927
The smirk is good enough

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>>553448927
>her headpiece makes her eyes look angry
But that's the best part? Kinda reminds me of Shoebill.
Imagine the plap plap while she's looking at you so intensely with that stern gaze of hers...

>>553447335
Granberria needs to follow tradition, and dumpster this child already. Only the strunk survive, and abandoning a kid in the wilds is the best way to teach it.

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>>553448927
That is because trtr are fucking COWARDS. Granberia deserves love and affection (from me especially), and to smile unapologetically and brightly!

>>553450089
Can't she at least abandon her child near a human village?
Preferably, in my home.

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>>553448927
>>553450345
Also, here's her REAL smile. Forgot I had these.

>>553447970
>>553451382
>girl before and after you gift her a kid

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>>553454192
Absolute trvke.

>>553447335
On it.
https://img2.gelbooru.com/images/2c/d1/2cd1881ac3c66f8955a070c231b8a69d.png

Twist in My Monstrosity
(to the melody & spirit of "Twist in My Sobriety")
All the monster girls are calling
Through the midnight fog and rain
Lamias sliding, harpy falling
Succubi still drunk on pain
What's the point of being human
When the night tastes so much sweeter?
Got a dragon girl in the kitchen
Burning breakfast, burning fever
And there's a twist in my monstrosity
A little monster twist in my monstrosity
Got no heartbeat, got no pity
Just a beautiful monstrosity
Moth-girl powder on my fingers
Arachne silk across my lips
Kitsune nine-tails make me linger
Every lie tastes like a kiss
They keep asking why I'm smiling
While the village lights go dim
I say darling, I've been dialing
Every number carved in sin
And there's a twist in my monstrosity
A little monster twist in my monstrosity
Got no halo, got no gravity
Just this beautiful monstrosity
(bridge – spoken/sung half-breathless)
One day I'll wake up normal
With boring skin and boring eyes
No claws to click on marble
No wings that blot the sky…
…God I hope that day is never
I'd rather burn than say goodbye
Vampire girlfriend wants forever
Slime girl says she'll never leave
Gorgon stares and makes me better
Every crack she lets me see
So pour the moonlight, raise the bottle
Toast the things that go bump-bump
We're the nightmare you can't throttle
We're the shiver when you jump
And there's a twist in my monstrosity
A little monster twist in my monstrosity
No salvation, no authority
Only beautiful monstrosity
Twist in my monstrosity
Twist in my monstrosity
Twist in my… monstrosity…
(fade on soft harpy wingbeats and distant lamia hiss)

Fire and light are universal symbols of holiness and divinity. The veneration and awe for light in some form or another is to be found in most religions and cultural myths from Prometheus, to Zoroaster, to Biblical accounts of the Star of Bethlehem, and the Hindu festival of Diwali. The worship of divine light is especially evident in the religion of Zoroastrianism, which has had a tremendous influence on the development of the Abrahamic faiths. In the Bible, the only direct encounter with Yahweh has God appearing as divine Light (that is, fire).

>>553443514
Foxes are an animal associated with femininity, which of course makes it popular to just outright make them girls. Same with cats and rabbits. 'Vixen' is used to describe human women in both the east and west, after all. The fact that foxes are considered sly, scheming femininity gives them more spice and teeth than the (seen as harmless) cats and rabbits, which makes them a bit more fun to think about in a monster girl context.

>>553450345
You’re allowed to marry her in paradox so I don’t see how that’s cowardice

I just realized that Neris doesn't have any levels in the lamia race. I guess TrTr was only trying to push her into the Super Archfiend race like her brother to make them "equal", but it still comes off as strange.
I don't know, I think these two dweebs come off as really cookie cutter, nothing really interesting about their kits.

>>553450089
I don't think Luka would accept that anon

>>553459592
I think it's more the widespread depiction of fox women in asian mythology, in Western folklore they tended to show up as male tricksters instead. They also fit easily into more mainstream kemonomimi cat and dog girls, to the point that artists often mix up the features of dogs/wolfs and foxes.
In a similar manner, all the other "essential" monster girl races have a strong basis in mythology - succubi, centaurs, harpies, mermaids. After that the most prominent species for making monster girls should be slime and dragon, which are just the default fantasy creature of Japanese gaming.

I think the most popular "original" monster girls would be Manticore and Hellhound from MGE. Their designs seem to have become the default depiction of these creatures, while there is a broad range of dragon girls, harpies, etc.

>meet horse
>she gives me a carrot and rubs her head off me
What did she mean by this bros? Carrot is sweet.

>>553466353
Western folklore kinda lacks a singular strong female monster girl the way foxes are the frontrunner in the east. Not to say a lot of popular monster girls don't come from the west (all the mythological ones you named (including female centaurs which the ancient Greeks did talk about) plus a few others like pixies) but they don't really have a single all-consuming "This thing goes around and seduces men and everyone can't stop talking about it" creature. You've got Selkies and Huldras and people banging elves/fairies/nymphs but nothing so unifying or popular.

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>>553467278
https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN

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>>553467442
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/

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>>553422348

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Hapy Wife, Hapy Life!

>>553466385
She fancies you

>>553466385
>he ate the carrot
oh no

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I feel like it is not practical for Lilith to walk around.

>>553478420
Practical, healthy, welcome, and necessary.

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Did Ilias ever get over Heinrich?

>>553480906
>casually vores humans
>responsible for multiple wars/genocides
>she's not evil

>>553482059
True heroes can't read women at all.

>>553482059
Part 3 revealing that every single conflict in Heinrich's era was just BA making an exaggerated training montage just for him... was BA suicidal like Alice or something?

>>553480906
Underneath her powerful goddess persona, Ilias is a big crybaby. Having Heinrich's descendants be clones of him wouldn't help her forget, either.
Even if she got over it, getting a chance to "fix" one of her biggest failures would hit her hard.

>>553482059
True heroes use their Holy Sword to turn villainesses into a saints.

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>>553480906
He was weak and couldn't get the job done.

>>553485652
I imagine this timeline goes to absolutely shit as BA genocides everyone out of boredom.

>>553485652
Luka doesn't exist in this timeline.
Heinrich doesn't get with the Remina princess, because he isn't some sad, broken man she can catch on the rebound.

>>553486010
But enough about shitlias

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>>553478420
I feel like it's not practical for her to have free will.

>>553486152
Absolutely irrelevant attempt at a comeback.

>[1]
>posting garbage
Name a more iconic duo

>>553487083
Don't do that.
She already got her free will destroyed by space aids, she suffered enough.

>>553487313
Nah, I think Diddith can handle a bit more.

>>553487175
Maybe don't project next time?

>>553488706
>Project
Anon, you have ostensibly played these games. You know BA is pure evil. You know she engages in mass-murder when she's bored. Come on.

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>>553489205
Wrong.

Next time I play Paradox, I'm doing so on "Normal" difficulty.
Itemization goes to hell when you have to grind out 10 extra levels over bosses and get torn apart by mechanical interactions the developers didn't prepare the game for.

>>553491194
Levels don't mean shit, trtr just betatested the game with minmaxing autists and balanced it around using busted characters, chains and abusing gems

>>553492442
>>553491194
I swear I still don't understand this, but maybe I just have more patience or something since I enjoy the buffing part of fights instead of just trying to grind to kill them as soon as possible

>>553491194
We are playing a game that is vastly different from the one that was released almost 15 years ago. Playing on Hell is way more unforgiving than I remember it back in Part 2, let alone when the game was still only Part 1.
That Collab is going to be a bitch to get through.

>>553493208
>e I enjoy the buffing part of fights
Some people enjoying owlcats pathfinder and the several minutes of buffing for the two minute fight.

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Anyone have any of his art with these goddesses of fertility? Not everyone likes them but i like their design. Anything original sized with them and their children would be welcomed. I would very much appreciate it. Thanks.

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>>553487083
Not any of the anons who are very fond of the shikis, but I confess that years ago during the great delay back when I still had an extremely strong hatred for all three of the Lilith Sisters, it was seeing this set of images specifically that caused me to start being more empathetic towards them, and it's almost entirely because I found it so horrible that I was completely incapable of not feeling sorry for them. I sincerely wouldn't wish that on any of them, not even back then when I wanted all of them outright dead.
IIRC it was only a couple of weeks after this that I saw Morrigan revealing how the trio's part of MW plan was a suicide mission, where after doing what they believed was the only way to save the world, they would be forced to stay behind and die to chaos degradation without any way to return and they'd effectively cease to exist. Which just made it even worse.

Like I still dislike Lilith greatly and I understand why a lot of people dislike them all in general but I don't want to see them tortured, man. I don't care how evil they 'actually' are or how evil you think they are, it's just fucked up. If you're gonna kill them just kill them and be done with it.

>>553497168
>namefagging
no, go back

>>553497258
They deserve it as punishment and repentance after the Echidna thing.

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>>553489205
>>553489429
I would vote for her!

>>553497583
that's unironically victim blaming at they point

>>553497734
But the funny part is that they might accept it.

>>553497168
I agree that they're hot and underrated but lurk more before asking next time

>>553497258
TrTr went overboard with the luddite thing, it's simple as that. And unlike the Echidna thing, that is still unresolved. That and Lima village, but that was off screened, so the MW warcrimes there are not as heavily impactful.

>>553492442
I wouldn't be too surprised if some playtesters are extreme "normalfags" for hgame standards and just used the busted characters because they're story characters. Like why would you not want to use Lucifina?

>>553498437
I don't think regular h-game players who just want to experience the story would bother signing up to playtest game mechanics

>>553499214
Some of them are admittedly the artists, which I would really doubt the Dragon Maid guy is going to bother looking for bugs and only really report the game crashing on him.

>>553499490
Aside from Xelvy, we have no clue what party these artists used, if they played the game at all. Aside from yellow cum man, the only other artist we know who played the game without a shadow of the doubt was Setouchi.

>>553498389
it's not unresolved, everyone who died before the universe merged stayed dead after it merged unless Luka deliberately went out of his way to bring them back like he did with Karen and Sonya's father. Their souls just went to MW and already merged, or just reincarnated if they didn't have a counterpart.
Honestly Luddite's pretty far from the worst thing that happens (which I guess is saying a lot), all but two of the casualties died in seconds (because of Morrigan) and it's universally recognized as a tragedy in-universe, because the Pope was only a few days away from storming the place to arrest and either execute or imprison all of the men and save the women and children. Bringing Morrigan back there even has her stop moralizing about it and self-reflect.

>>553501690
Not really, since the current inhabitants open up the mystery again, by mentioning how the former luddite peeps are still MIA, without a single one appearing. TrTr is the one who didn't leave things alone with that place, and got the player thinking about it even when the result came out kind of okay(San Ilias' current insanity notwithstanding).

>>553498389
Imo, the fact that TrTr tries hard to make them sympathetic with pity whoring and artificial moments makes this even worse.

>>553503007
It's kind of funny, but we learned the fate of the villages that the AW was grabbing, but nothing on the MW victims. Like couldn't TrTr have given us at least a MW NPC talking about having nightmares of a some ant girl, or murder maid robot, tearing his heart heart or something to show at least where one of Lima's souls ended up? He left the whole soul transfer thing a complete blank, and it just makes the Lilith Sisters, and the MW plan as a whole, worse for it.

>>553502351
They just say that the original luddite villagers didn't come back from the dead like everyone else who died post-union, because they're still buried in the mass grave in the village. Everyone else was moved into Luddite and then died during the echidna-ing was brought back. Which is why I said it's not really unresolved since we know already what happened to everyone who died in the singularity world prior to the AoC showing up, which is that their souls went into the MW and either merged or became reincarnated. Since there's no Luddite Village in the MW though and the timelines are so different (san ilia being almost entirely populated by succubi) it's entirely possible that all of them just ended up just reincarnating.

Or, alternatively, anyone who got their memories from the merge didn't want to go back to the place where they had their reputations as "Archbishop McFuckstick's crack-shack and his gaggle of rapists that beat women and children", and the women and children wouldn't want to go back there for what should be extremely obvious reasons (the rapists that beat women and children).

>>553503007
Really I feel like you could argue that any attempt to have sympathetic or character-bonding moments with a lot of cast members is just trtr "pity whoring" or "artificial connection" if you happen to particularly dislike one of those characters. I don't feel like he did this to most of the MW/AW split besides Alice I (who I admit I dislike but mostly because I think she's poorly written), and Morrigan and Astaroth don't really come off that badly in either Alice's or Ilias's routes (Morrigan is genuinely pretty funny and endearing in the former, and Astaroth gets killed before the latter route even begins to save Morrigan and then all Morrigan does after that is try to avenge her before getting fucking curbstomped into oblivion by Kagetsumugi.


Either way I have no idea why people still bitch about Luddite but somehow never bring up Lilith massacring the entirety of a much, MUCH larger town in her own homeworld that from her perspective had done nothing wrong other than be the place she happened to land during her fight with the angel-bots (and said place had also genuinely done nothing wrong), and then slaughtered all the civilians without a second thought entirely of her own free will solely just for a quick recharge despite Zion pointing out how since it's HER OWN WORLD there's no 'saving' these people she just killed off an entire town, and Lilith's only response amounts to "so what" because she's so hyped up on vengeance juice that she doesn't care how many people she kills just as long as Luka is one of them.
Really it's the most evil thing she does in the game, at least in-part because it's entirely of her own volition and has no moral justification about saving their souls, she just casually murders hundreds of people to use their souls as a health potion.

>>553501690
Putting what >>553502351 said aside, you do realize the problem isn't JUST that they murdered half a village, right? They were completely casual about it and even outright enjoyed it. They even raped to death kids with no knowledge of sex. It's not like they didn't have other ways to kill them and even monsters understand to an extend how humiliating rape can be. Not to mention that they turned the women, a lot of them traumatized by having sex with men, into creatures that live to have sex with men. They come off as complete psychopaths even by monster standards.
>Bringing Morrigan back there even has her stop moralizing about it and self-reflect.
I'd hardly describe Morrigan's response like that.

>>553505000
First, for the second thing there, that town was the staging ground for an invasion, and was actively supporting the enemy of her faction. You can say that it was still uncalled for, but that was reality of the situation.
Two, the three world merger pretty much made that a non-issue, since it technically doesn't happen, at least in our timeline.
Apples and pears if you will, since luddite comes off as unresolved, and that doesn't, it mostly is swept under the rug.
>>553505164
There was a level of antagonism going on there, as noted by Alice's dialogue with Lilith in the PC. The Lilith Sisters were fully emotionally charged doing that to Luddite Village. Why? We technically don't know, but it probably was that heinous shit they were doing.

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>>553503928
Funny how, even with all of that MW favoritism, from what I've seen, most people seem to think AW is still better.

>>553505927
I have no idea what in the fuck was trtr smoking when he was writing up MW Grangold, it's like something shitposters in worldsposting era would come up with for fun

>>553505848
It absolutely still is an issue, because most of the people who were dryfished are permanently mindbroken, miserable, and suicidal because of it.

>>553505848
>The Lilith Sisters were fully emotionally charged doing that to Luddite Village.
The emotion they were charged with was sadistic joy. If anything about how they behaved was meant to convey anything other than that, then there's something very wrong with TRTR.

>>553505164
iirc they only did that to Natasha, which was because Lilith felt exceptional pity for her due to her being the most abused girl there, all the women and other children were killed as well.
Additionally besides two people (Astaroth and Lilith's victims) everyone else who was a casualty died within literal seconds. Morrigan just psycho-dryfished people without even touching them. They mention how much they enjoyed killing these people, but by "these people" they are very explicitly referring to the men who were rapists, and not the others.
>monsters understand to an extent how humiliating rape can be
I'm not sure if that's true for all Succubi, or at least under all conditions for them given how detached from reality a lot of their viewpoints seem to be. Hell, there's even the one who outright complains about being put in jail for rape and says they should have been grateful to her.

At most my understanding of how trtr's average Succubi views rape is through the bizarre lens of
>I am using rape to make the other person feel pleasure, which brings me pleasure (and also food): this is good
>I am using rape to make the other person genuinely suffer for my own personal pleasure (and also food): this is bad
which is why they seemed to take particular offense to the men of Luddite just molesting all the women and children who lived there not in the "having sex for fun" way but the "old fashioned medieval humiliation ritual that brings me joy" way.

>>553505848
>that town was the staging ground for an invasion
Lilith doesn't seem to even be aware of that.

>>553507613
>which brings me pleasure
Do half of the monster girls even feel pleasure from sex, most of them seem to get off more on the vibes than any actual sexual pleasure it feels like

>>553507613
Lily's sidequest makes it clear that it wasn't just Natasha, but most of the abused girls got succubus'ed, and teleported to safety. The invading succubus army that attacked Succubus Village were these girls, seeing how all of them were newly corrupted humans that couldn't control their emotions/lust.

>>553507780
I'm pretty sure the vast, vast majority of them feel pleasure from sex yes, ESPECIALLY Succubi, there's just no voice acting in this game to remove any/all ambiguity about it.

>>553508053
And all of them ended up permanently ruining Succubus Village.

>>553508178
Monogamy only leads to really bad things in MGQ.

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>>553506368
I mean Gabriela ruined AW as well
If it wasn't for her the archangels would be way too good. My favorite is Raphaela but I love them all, except the traitor.

>>553508053
I had forgotten that then, but if that's the case then them NOT killing all the women and children and instead giving them the capacity to defend themselves against any other would-be rapists makes this seem even less bad than it would have been otherwise because at that point they really did only kill the men and still killed them in seconds bar that one poor child Lilith dragged out the death of (because Lilith is an exceptional asshole and even the other two openly say that she's cruel). Hell Natasha makes it really obvious that the reason they attacked Succubus Village in the first place is solely so they can murder the one surviving guy who just happened to be out at the time.
>>553508575
You know that's nonsense anon, come on now.

>>553508739
The Nuclear Twins turn 2nd class humans into chimera abominations in their laboratory, and Sariela ships her prisoners, many of them political ones, to be used as expendable fuel for the artificial spirits.
AW is an shithole if you are not one of Ilias' chosen ones, who she wanted to turn into squid people anyways. Except for your waifu's territory, San Ilias is the only place that could be the closest thing to heaven for everyone because Raphaela knows how to play politics.

>>553507613
>iirc they only did that to Natasha
Pretty sure they couldn’t find any dead women. Also that part wasn’t translated when I did it, but Natasha was not the only succubus attacking Succubus Village.
>which was because Lilith felt exceptional pity for her
Didn’t really help her.
>Additionally besides two people (Astaroth and Lilith's victims) everyone else who was a casualty died within literal seconds.
Maybe my memory is foggy, but I’m pretty sure we only see them after they’re done. Also, if Luka’s scenes with her are anything to go by, her psychic rape isn’t exactly better.
>They mention how much they enjoyed killing these people, but by "these people" they are very explicitly referring to the men who were rapists, and not the others.
Yeah, no, that’s just bullshit.
>I'm not sure if that's true for all Succubi, or at least under all conditions for them given how detached from reality a lot of their viewpoints seem to be. Hell, there's even the one who outright complains about being put in jail for rape and says they should have been grateful to her.
There are non-succ monsters that are also masochists. That doesn’t mean they don’t understand that it’s supposed to be humiliating.
>At most my understanding of how trtr's average Succubi views rape is through the bizarre lens of…
I think you’re just trying way to hard to make sense of the game’s double standards.

>>553506548
I think you're confusing them with the Lilith Sisters.

Is this another badwriting schizo?

>>553509047
>You know that's nonsense anon, come on now.
I'm not saying that they deserved it because they practiced monogamy, but TrTr does seem to like to ruin it, in mostly comedic ways. Succubus Village is in chaos after the Natasha thing, because the older, native succubi are married, and don't want to share their husbands to the newcomers, who are the super stereotypical succubi that love to fuck.

So they didn't even massacre all the innocent civilians among the village out of guilt by association, they just killed a shitton of child molesters. Holy shit, what a tragedy, let me call the wahbulance. This is truly the worst crime a shiki has ever committed in the history of all shiki.
>>553509158
even then ilias keeps trying to go behind her back and have monsters in her territory killed, and eventually just has it nuked anyway. AW is a shithole, and even for how awful MW is I still think AW is worse.
>>553509528
>I’m pretty sure we only see them after they’re done
nta, but we see them invade the city beforehand in a cutscene similarly to how the echidna scenes played out. morrigan just rapid fires everyone after astaroth and lilith each single one person out and take them aside. by the time you arrive there the two are still riding on the people they singled out and everyone else is dead.

>>553509667
It's another Shikibus episode.

>>553509741
>So they didn't even massacre all the innocent civilians among the village out of guilt by association, they just killed a shitton of child molesters. Holy shit, what a tragedy, let me call the wahbulance. This is truly the worst crime a shiki has ever committed in the history of all shiki.
They killed a young boy anon, or did you forget why Lilith is seen as the worst of the three in this discussion?

>>553509047
> them NOT killing all the women and children and instead giving them the capacity to defend themselves against any other would-be rapists makes this seem even less bad than it would have been
Except these women are now the monsters that crave sex and semen the most.
>Hell Natasha makes it really obvious that the reason they attacked Succubus Village in the first place is solely so they can murder the one surviving guy who just happened to be out at the time.
If you just let Natasha kill the guy, she later goes on a murderous rampage.

>>553509741
>So they didn't even massacre all the innocent civilians among the village out of guilt by association, they just killed a shitton of child molesters.
Bruh, the very much killed an child in on-screen and it's very unlikely it was the only one in town. Also Robopope's spies are nowhere to be found.

>>553510383
>Except these women are now the monsters that crave sex and semen the most.
BASED

>>553509528
>I think you’re just trying way to hard to make sense of the game’s double standards.
No, I think 90% of the Succubi are either retarded or behave in a manner so detached from a normal human's perspective that if you didn't know their entire world view revolved around the concepts of 'sex' and 'pleasure' they'd seem completely nonsensical.
And at minimum both Lilith and Morrigan are retarded and fall into this and Astaroth has gotten so strung out from trying to tardwrangle them so much that she turned to hard drugs to cope with it.
>bullshit
judging by the "we didn't even kill the women and little girls we teleported them away" actually no it's not they just took a lot of satisfaction in killing all those child molesters.
I genuinely thought they did kill those women until the other anon pointed out otherwise but it pretty much removes any ambiguity about it. So it just leaves the biggest asshole as still remaining Lilith, which is par for the course for her since she tends to be the one always causing problems.
>>553509985
Even then while yes Lilith killing the boy is pretty terrible when it's narrowed down to "they teleported all the women to safety so the only innocent casualty is one young boy" then it really does pale in comparison to so much of the other shit that happens in the game, even Lima Village.
>>553510383
>the women no longer fear the men and will return to normal in time like all succubized women are
would you rather them all be dead or traumatized for life?
Also I don't recall Natashia ever being enabled to actually kill the guy, even the route where you side with her has her being talked down from it. She's never allowed to do so.
granted, though, given what DOES eventually happen to that guy I think what the Succubus Court did is even more fucked than the Luddite incident. If you wanna talk about 'too far' that's what I'd say too far is.

Every single time something Shiki has drawn is criticized, no matter the reason, even if it has nothing to do with Shiki, this general gets flooded with copium.

>>553509985
You know I wonder if it's possible to turn a guy into a monster girl in MGQ. I'm not aware of any mystical property of males that really stops it, though monsterfication also isn't gone into much detail with either.

>>553510819
>would you rather them all be dead or traumatized for life?
They're still very much traumatized for life and now they crave the very thing that traumatized them.
>Also I don't recall Natashia ever being enabled to actually kill the guy, even the route where you side with her has her being talked down from it.
She does if you take no side in Witch's Village.

>>553510819
If you sided with Lucia or neither of them if you beat Succubus Natasha goes on to kill the guy, only if you sided with Lily will the guy survive after siding with Natasha.

>>553510819
>they just took a lot of satisfaction in killing all those child molesters.
Except not only did they did NOT just kill the child molesters, but it's unlikely they even observed the place long enough to make a conclusion on whether or not all adult men were all child molesters.

>>553512595
Lilith's dialogue with Alice hints that they did.
She says that when she was going around causing mayhem, they point at Luddite Village as a time when they were emotionally invested in wiping them out. Lilith might be talking about only herself though, since Morrigan makes it clear that it was her eldest sister that took action in saving the girls, not her and Astaroth.

>>553511079
They hate the comparisons of Shiki with Vivziepop but shikifags sure are acting a lot like Hellaverse fans. One moment they actively celebrate how "badass" and edgy the character is and the next they'll be trying to make excuses for their poow smol wittwe babi.

>>553513325
The difference is Loona has a secret heart of gold. Shikibus has nothing.

>>553513415
Loona is also a gross disgusting furry.

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>>553513190
>they point at Luddite Village as a time when they were emotionally invested in wiping them out.
We see with our own eyes that this is not at all true for her and she has a reason to lie. That or she was making a joke about what she did.

>>553513737
If you like snouts you're a dogfucker, end of.

>>553511079
gonna be honest the guy trying to defend luddite sounds like he's smoking more copium than anyone else ITT
>>553511097
it is, as one example that's given sphinx wanted to do it to her lover originally but he chose to die a human instead, which she accepted
>>553513325
>those EEEEEEEEEEVIL succubi how DARE they kill those Awesome Human Men- I mean those poow wittwe chiwd mowestews
>Especially lil' rape-it-ralphy, the boy hadn't even gotten to practice what dear ol' paw paw had taught him yet!
>No, I'm not going to complain about Lilith murdering the entirety of Gold Port in cold blood
>No, I'm not going to complain about the time Astaroth turned Kraken into a dried squid and then MKUltra'd Meia into creating Meiapstein Island
>No, I'm not going to complain about the Lilith Trio trying to assassinate multiple members of royalty (such as being behind the bombing of the pope and throwing Sabasa King into tartarus in the hopes that he would die) and then collapse multiple kingdoms via brainwashing and subterfuge so Shikimamo's Grangold could kill all of the defenseless humans
>Nor will I complain about the numerous towns that were all wiped out in the process of this
>No, I'm not going to complain about Lilith owning that giant human semen slave farm in the Monster World (because it was never shown onscreen)
>No, I'm not going to complain about any of this
>Because clearly, saving all of the women and little girls and then killing all of those Child Rapists is easily the most horrible thing that the Lilith Trio has ever done
>If you think this is retarded you must be a shikifag

>>553513573
Didn't you hear? Nobody cares about furries after the Zenless Zone Zero ASMR massage video. I'm talking about the anthros, not the humans in fursuit. They are a different story.

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>>553514469
I don't play your gacha shit, furry.

>>553514358
>it is
Then if the Lilith Sisters wanted to be moral, they should've turned the boy into a succubus too.

>>553514358
Nice strawman. Also nobody is stopping you from discussing the other shit they did, but that's not what you want to do, is it?

>>553515007
Let me guess: You're too busy fapping at the abominations of SHRIFT.

>>553513325
>everyone who disagrees with me must be (x)
this is some kinda goomba fallacy thing all over, I never said anything about them being badass or edgy or whatever and I've made it pretty clear I don't like Lilith. You also bring up this random comparison outta thin air just reads like rent free to me. It's not that complicated, this just isn't the worst thing that they've done.

>>553515596
Funny you bring SHRIFT up when it's full of furshit.

>>553515708
>I never said anything about them being badass or edgy or whatever
Not in this thread
>and I've made it pretty clear I don't like Lilith.
No, you’ve barely said some vague shit.
>You also bring up this random comparison outta thin air just reads like rent free to me.
Some anons had compared their art styles in the past.
>It's not that complicated, this just isn't the worst thing that they've done.
This has also not been your point.

>>553515805
And even less humanoid things that Kazuya gets raped by.

>>553515270
>strawman
that's what (you)'ve been doing, retard
>nobody is stopping you from discussing the other shit they did
doesn't matter. why do you focus so hard on luddite when it pales in comparison to all the other shit they've done? the more you bitch about luddite and keep trying to defend it while ignoring everything else the more it sounds like you're just genuinely angry that they actually did kill all of those child molesting men.
if I'm being charitable it's because you think it's a double-standard that the men were killed. if I'm not it's because you would've actually sided with them and think they're better, like how you seem to think everyone who points out how retarded you sound is some tumblrina shikifag who must clearly be defending da poow wiwwle iwwocent babies who killed all those child molesters, because clearly people can't both believe that the trio are cunts and yet luddite still deserved it, they just have to be running to protect a bunch of used goods. you could shit on them for any number of things, and almost everyone would certainly agree with you but people keep bringing up this stupid shit like luddite is somehow the most vile and indefensible thing that they ever did.
hell I left shit out in that post, they've fucked over that many places. morrigan was seconds away from killing all of the harpies along with everyone in happiness village before lilith threatens to beat her ass if she does.

>>553516420
>Not in this thread
not EVER, you schizo
>barely
calling her "the biggest asshole' and a cruel sadist and also just saying "I dislike her" is 'barely' to you?
and yes Luddite not being the worst thing ever IS my point, what the fuck are you even talking about? I even said what I think the worst thing Lilith did was, which was murdering that massive town of random bystanders that she didn't even know were taken over by the AW or not entirely just to help power up.

>>553517019
>if I'm being charitable it's because you think it's a double-standard that the men were killed. if I'm not it's because you would've actually sided with them
it's probably the former, I guess, but if he's the guy who hates shikibuses so direly I really don't get why he doesn't bring up all the other shit they've done.

>>553517019
The chaos infestation is happening at such a rapid rate in the singularity world because of the actions of the Lilith Sisters. Not one of their actions they took even came close to how events turned out in the OG timeline.
Harpy Village? Harpies are in some tower isolated by themselves, and not kidnapping men like they should have.
Kraken? Turned into some fried fish stick, while Meia acts like a pedophile queen.
Sabasa? King goes MIA, while Sara is turned into a Succubus far too early.
Luddite Village? Good job getting rid of the village that doesn't exist, also good job creating succubi that don't exist either.
Boat Ride? Wow, Morrigan is going to start killing them. Thank you Zion for interfering.
Grangold? Starts an apocalyptic war, and turn the king into a super chimera. No, it doesn't happen in the OG timeline, no matter what piss ass excuse they make.

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>>553513737
>thread recently has been meia, ilias, and shikibus lore + barbarella art
>"monster is on the outside"-posting anyway

>>553517820
Thank you, FINALLY someone with common sense.
I don't mind anyone hating them but hate them for actually good reasons, they commit so many atrocities that you couldn't count them all if you had four hands and yet people only ever seem to bring up one or two things. They're almost singlehandedly responsible for the rapid deterioration of the singularity world's chaos.

>>553517820
>>553518521
Tbf with Part 3 everything they did just becomes part of White Rabbit's Keikaku which is stupider than Ilias' where she had Black Alice eat her somehow.

>>553518674
How did illias know she'd survive being eaten by black alice in the first place, is this a vegito buu situation or something

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>>553518382
all it needs is this version of her and it's even funnier

>>553518771
She says she planned on Luka killing Black Alice (and apparently, her ability to just continuously re-wind time if he ever happened to fail until he did kill her) and then uno-reversing the chaos bullshit

>>553518771
Soul return.
She labbed it out.

>>553518674
White Rabbit is working under the guidance of Chaos and FoC. But I don't think she was giving all the pointers to the MW faction when it came to doing their whole genocide plan.

>>553519373
she didn't, the only thing she did was give the vague prophecy and tell them they needed to destroy the world

>>553517820
dont forget that Astaroth also smashed the blue orb that Kraken was guarding, not only making it impossible for them to revive Garuda but also forcing them to have to go back to the 500-years-ago Tartarus and steal the orb from their world instead

>>553517019
>that's what (you)'ve been doing, retard
It's not a strawman if it's unexaggerated truth.
>doesn't matter.
You brought it up.
>why do you focus so hard on luddite when it pales in comparison to all the other shit they've done?
Because I feel it's the one that best shows how evil the are. Again, if YOU feel like the others are worse YOU can always explain your opinion.
>the more you bitch about luddite and keep trying to defend it while ignoring everything else the more it sounds like you're just genuinely angry that they actually did kill all of those child molesting men.
>if I'm being charitable it's because you think it's a double-standard that the men were killed. if I'm not it's because you would've actually sided with them
In case you missed it (which I doubt, you're probably just ignoring it) from multiple anons saying it: They did NOT kill JUST the child molesters in Luddite Village.

>>553517529
>not EVER, you schizo
Newfag or Shikifag in denial
>calling her "the biggest asshole' and a cruel sadist and also just saying "I dislike her" is 'barely' to you?
Yes.
>and yes Luddite not being the worst thing ever IS my point, what the fuck are you even talking about? I even said what I think the worst thing Lilith did was, which was murdering that massive town of random bystanders that she didn't even know were taken over by the AW or not entirely just to help power up.
Congatulations this is the closest you've come to describing it. We also don't get nearly as much info about it as with Luddite Village.

>>553520292
>"unexaggerated truth"
lmao
>I feel it's the one that best shows how evil the are
then I think you're fucking retarded if you think Lilith killing one boy alongside all the child molesters is what best shows how evil they are compared to all the other significantly more stupid and/or evil shit they did. and for the sake of this yes I did actually go back to look through the village; all the other young children there are little girls. in fact on the overworld the little girls are the only young children on the map, the kid only comes out because Lilith is designed specifically for raping little kids so he basically materialized so she could do that. the Priest knew the risks of his mission and had to blend in with the racist backwater child rapists (although he did not rape children), and the Pope salutes him for going down with the ship. the Merchant is the only other guy that shouldn't have been killed.

So that's like three guys out of everyone else.
And forgive me, anon, if I think "Lilith Trio teleported out all the women and little girls and then killed a bunch of child rapists with three guys as collateral" is not as bad as "having numerous cities slaughtered, including Lima Village where there are no survivors" "murdering a king and turning her daughter into a vapid whore to destroy the kingdom" "sinking all those merchant ships and nearly driving an entire port town into destitution" "turning a ruler into a helpless object and then forcing her to watch as a pedophile takes her place and abducts a ton of bystanders and turns them into children" which to be fair that last one does get brought up but people usually only talk about Meia and not Astaroth's involvement in that but regardless no that's far from the most evil thing they ever did.

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>>553521232
>closest you've come
and >>553505000 isn't me describing it? I literally said verbatim that I think it's the most evil thing she's done.
>Yes.
bro I think you have some kind of fucking brain damage or something at this point, seriously get help

>>553521865
What even was trtr's goal with the lillith sisters. Are they just a remnant of when MW was supposed to be shittier or what. Not that Lillith isn't still amply shitty as people have described so far

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>>553487246
Notice how the seething at (anything) Shiki started soon after your post.

>>553521865
>So that's like three guys out of everyone else.
Three guys we see. It's highly unlikely they were the only ones. You do realize that the places we visit are most likely supposed to be bigger than what we actually see, right?

>>553522409
>Are they just a remnant of when MW was supposed to be shittier or what
I'm pretty confident this is half the reason, and the other half is that their plan by design requires them to kill literally everyone so the idea of "we kill everyone to save them and then stay behind to die ourselves" is ON PAPER 'fine'
But in practice the Lilith Trio go so far in pursuing this objective through a combination of malice and genuine stupidity (at least half of those are either accidents or unintended side-effects) instead of just sticking to the script that they end up doing far more damage to the world instead by speeding up the chaosization and causing shittons of lasting problems.
The AW having almost zero interfence with the entirety of the Singularity World at all by comparison, while it fits in with their goals, also causes there to be no contrast for them to provide for the atrocities that the MW are doing, the most that is shown is the vanishing of a couple of towns, Zion trying to immediately murder Morrigan on-sight despite sinking a ship of bystanders in the process (which Morrigan then derides her for RIGHT AFTER SHE WAS ABOUT TO DO IT HERSELF) and Gnosis killing Miceala, which just pales in comparison to the shit the Trio did.
>>553522973
>You do realize that the places we visit are most likely supposed to be bigger than what we actually see, right?
yeah, and that also helps make literally every single other thing the Lilith Trio has done even more evil than Luddite. you cannot just apply that to only Luddite and then not apply it to everything else too.
>>553522763
Yup. It really makes you think, huh.

>>553522973
>It's highly unlikely they were the only ones.
canonically it is, and the place is made very clear to be low in numbers due to it's small size and consisting of outcasts who left san ilia.
if you want to magically consider there being a ton of random, nebulous, never-shown 'innocent victims' who just happened to be killed however than you also logically have to apply that to every other time they did things like this too.

>>553522213
>and >>553505000 isn't me describing it? I literally said verbatim that I think it's the most evil thing she's done.
Huh, I missed that one. My bad. Still think that the Luddite Village hits harder.
>>Yes.
>bro I think you have some kind of fucking brain damage or something at this point
I've just seen many cases of "I mean, I totally love/hate X, buuuuut..."

>>553523147
>you cannot just apply that to only Luddite and then not apply it to everything else too.
I do, but this is event and its consequences is the one we get the best look at.
>>553523341
That "village" is barely a hamlet and this could be said for most villages in the game.

>>553486010
nah not really black alice is more of a dictator normally as described by the others she became batshit crazy cuz of the incident of heinrich killing her.

>>553523392
>My bad
Ok well thanks, I appreciate the understanding but you probably shouldn't just jump to conclusions is all I have to say then.

I personally think MW!Gold Port hit harder, due to the game making it very clear that she's doing what she did there entirely out of malice and spite, and she's just so angry that she's willing to completely abandon all of her long-espoused moral beliefs and viewpoints in order to kill a person who isn't even responsible for any of the deaths of her siblings nor her parent since Eden killed Astaroth, Kagetsumi killed Morrigan and Alma died killing Minagi. Although I will say that part of the reason it hit the way it did is because it's almost certainly a deliberate contrast to what happened in Luddite, where they had a bunch of 'moral justifications' (whether you buy any of them or not) and the pretense of 'killing everyone will save them by bringing them to our world'. So what Lilith did was re-enact what happened in Luddite, but on a significantly larger scale with those people all dying, she obliterated hundreds of souls in five seconds just so she could more easily manhandle Zion in a fight that she was already winning.

Essentially it's if you took all of the explanations the game does give Luddite and then threw them out the window so there's just no excuses anymore.

>>553524054
>this is event and its consequences is the one we get the best look at.
Honestly I would argue that's the Grangold War, and not Luddite, because the Lilith Trio's actions involving that war make up a significant portion of the plot of Part 1 and 2 and what happened during and after it is felt across numerous towns in the game. They did a lot of the heavy lifting for MW!Tamamo.

>>553520019
What the fuck was the plan here? I hate how people praise the Lilith Sister's work in Part 3, but these mouth breathing retards didn't do anything correctly.
Seriously, they should have just went to Luka immediately to recruit him, since that seems to have been the hail mary at the end of the day.

>>553524054
>best look
I strongly disagree, but I don't feel like repeating the list of their crimes and all the fallouts of them for the third time at this point. If you take something away from this just don't call everyone who doesn't agree that Luddite is the worst thing they did some kind of shikishitter. I have many other reasons to hate them.

>>553525103
Snuggly Eden did a good thing icing her with Longinus. She shouldn't have apologized at all during their little team up.

>>553525309
>they should have just went to Luka immediately to recruit him
they didn't even know he existed when they were doing all of this stuff, they went on a trip from Hellgondo all the way down to Iliasville prior to the start of the game. you're catching them on their return trip back to base. that's why it takes until Luka is literally punching Lilith in the face in the grandgold castle for her to realize that she should probably try negotiating with him instead.
>what the fuck was their plan
considering Galda is practically mandatory for anybody they accounted for to try and get into Hellgondo they did it so their "kill everything" plan wouldn't get interrupted by the Monster Lord being killed too early. which immediately fails to achieve this when Marcellus just teleports in and kills Alice 15th anyway. And then bootstomps Granberia too, for good measure.
So it did have an actual reason and to be fair you can't really blame anyone involved for being unable to predict Marcellus having turned into an inter-dimensional cyborg who can just telefrag someone in seconds.

>all this schizophrenia and shitposting
Yeah I'm thinking Lilith Sisters were justified

>>553525914
Astaroth said something along the line that Luka should join them, confusing the fuck out of him in the process considering he despised what they had done to Luddite before their fight.
I'm guessing White Rabbit was holding onto information until Alice arrived at the ML castle, but it does seem like Luka was being looked at for recruitment as early as Part 1.