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Also sorry for taking so long anon, I was trying to fix and update the collage image for this year

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This thread is a No Fox zone.

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>kingdom fucked
>raping survivors

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>>552729645
>Humans probably

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>>552729645
>ilias probably better

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>>552729645
>ilias trying idea, fair bit cool

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>>552729645
>Granberia Needed
Desperately, yes...

>>552729645
>best route scenes ilias

>>552729645
>remember mgd
>fake hfy

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>>552728492
Counter point:
>>552729645
>yes fox

The fusion between two lives, whether reason defeats this chaos, or reason is swallowed by chaos.
Until one side is completely consumed by the other, the outcome of this war is still unknown.

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>>552737109
reason is but a small aspect of chaos for if randomness within chaos leads to the random chance of order.

>>552737592
...why is Alma there

>>552738157
she's trying to steal her dad from her alma iirc in game actually just jumps into luka's bed

>>552738157
She has a track record of sneaking into Luka's bed.

If you see a fairy? Ignore her.
If you see a demon? Beat her.
If you see an angel? Greet her, and if she's sad give her a hug and a kiss and tell her she's loved.
Got it?

>>552739757
Okay, I brings gifts to angels to let them know they're appreciated

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Soothing edition (I just really like this picture)

Album of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyf
Friends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902u

The latest: coloured version of Neris and Lucifina comic https://catbox.moe/c/eua7xj

Turkey Reina: https://files.catbox.moe/sy22yg.png
https://files.catbox.moe/olejqs.png
https://files.catbox.moe/jcmxr8.png


Eden by Danegi

https://files.catbox.moe/jb85uo.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dqg059.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/5o3m57.jpg

Bonus Minagi sketch hidden in PSD layer.
https://files.catbox.moe/qblt06.jpg

Raw PSD, for the curious.
https://files.catbox.moe/g0x50e.psd

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>>552740237
I love you, Preganon!

>>552739757
>You dare ignore me!? *rapes*
>You dare fight me!? *rapes*
>You dare greet me!? *rapes*

>>552740237
Whenever she's not thinking about her sisters, Eden is quite good to Luka.

The Snow Maiden's ice cream shop…

Sex.

>>552737592
Should i color panels in setouchi's new ones if they come out?

>>552753689
The new Setouchi doujin got a translation?

>>552754058
it's in the works

>>552754324
I see, is that why we don't have a raw release? I'm was kind of surprised the thing didn't get posted immediately online after it became available through online distributers, but I guess this does answer that.

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>>552729645
>reina faction
>harpy lord hero
>bird weapon cares
[EMPTY SKY: ENGAGE]

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>>552738157
At one point in Part 3, Luka has a nightmare where (in a parody of the LOC marriage events) he gets forcibly railroaded into choosing one of two girls to 'marry', only for every other Monster Girl to suddenly start pouring out of the Pocket Castle and flood their way into the room as they fight over who the ONE TRUE GIRL is and Luka is helpless to stop them. He wakes up in a cold sweat, relieved that it was just a nightmare, and Alma comforts him about his terrible dream, which Luka reluctantly acknowledges until he suddenly realizes mid-sentence that Alma has somehow broken into his room and SNUCK INTO HIS BED to sleep next to him (she didn't even rape him, she's just under the covers by him) and promptly flips his shit screaming at her to get the fuck out while literally flinging Alma's chibi off the screen like he's chucking a baseball as he hurls her out the door. Luka then cuts his own fucking bed in half for good measure so she can't do it again. It's honestly one of the funniest scenes in the game.
So Alma's trying to sneak into the now-single-sized bed and just finds Chaos giving her a death glare instead.

>>552762143
Sure miss elf how can i help you? and do you require healing?

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>>552732290
Was becoming a piss cloud part of her idea?

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HAPY NATIONAL BIRD DAY ANONS! It's a great day for the commemoration of all Harpies and Harpy Girls!
Make sure to celebrate by making Hapies around you as hapy as they can be!
I Love Reina!

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>>552732290
Oh, so this was her idea.

>>552732771
Damn, even the ball roasts MGD.

>>552753689
So Azrael's ass isn't fat but really muscular? Holy cow does she really break a sword like that?

>>552729645
>wanting dryfishing inherently unique
It's official. The dryfishfag is a weirdo.

>>552778015
No, she breaks Luka's penis.

>>552778627
SEEEEEEEEEX really? Or like she just milks him hard like how Valkyrie kept tightening her angel pussy?

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>second half of the current event comes out
>new poacher enemy is simply named "Monster Tamer"
>summons monsters and uses a whip to attack
>buffs all the monsters while around
>her whip attacks inflict attack down
I went to double check and whips actually do (have a chance to) inflict attack down in Paradox when using them with whip skills and the first job for the whip tree itself is called Monster Tamer as well, it's kind of fun to see what's possibly another reference to Paradox here since a lot of the devs are clearly fans of the game. The girls present for this are even hesitant to fight her at first since they're worried she might be able to control/"tame" them too, until reassured otherwise.
>>552778887
NTA, I've never seen it but from what I've gathered from other anons her body is quite literally designed to have her sexual organs filled with an absurd degree of microscopic torture and execution devices that she uses to graphically kill all of Luka's sperm while describing in detail what's happening, apparently down to even having fucking guillotines and stuff inside of her just for this one purpose, it's so fucking ridiculous and surreal that I don't even know who on earth could have pitched this idea to actually be drawn without laughing at the sheer absurdity of the concept that they went with.

>>552778887
I don't think I want to tell you.
I'll let you remain in the delusions you made yourself.

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>>552779390
>>552779398
>>552779625
oh...

>>552779390
I believe Paradox borrowed the idea for that class from the Monster Tamer job, usually localized as Beast Master, that was found in FFV. I also wouldn't be surprised if this is another DQ staple too, since there are literal spin-off games called Monster Tamers.

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>>552776535
There's a shocking lack of games with named harpies in the general, so I have to default to the closest thing to one I grew to like.
Reina and Harpyanon's sunny disposition do deserve a day to commemorate for their contribution to making these threads a little less bleak.

>>552780253
TrTr used a lot more of his "creativity" when it came to the Archangels' hentai scenes in comparison to the Ancestors.
The laboratory angels' porn come in all sorts of taste choices, while the monster mash mostly just comes in dryfish flavor.

>>552780253
yeah......the truth is, the moment all of the Archangels were assigned to be drawn by Xelvy, the game was rigged from the start. The only times they look good are when quite literally any other artist except for Xelvy is drawing them. I feel bad for the guy and he's good at the eldritch horror of the chaos/apoptosis thing but I'll never get why trtr assigned the six new archangels to him when he had frfr make brand new designs for AW!Lucifina and Micaela anyways all the way back in Paradox Part 1

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>>552779390
NTA
>Spoilers
Definitely the edgiest but not the most ridiculous.vagina I've heard.

>>552781378
>ridiculous.vagina
ridiculous vagina*

>>552781114
Remove the creepy dialogue and the weird cut-ins, and Sariela's hentai scene looks like a typical, cowgirl, super tight pussy one a lot of others girls have.

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>>552780349
it definitely originated from there (and it's not like that's the only thing trtr pulled from FFV either), but it's still neat to me that TD seems to have modeled them after the one in Paradox instead of using the square enix versions.
It's pretty neat how you can use them to help the blue mage learn stuff, too.
>>552780746
Thanks anon! I'm just glad if I've been able to do that for others. That's a cute girl too, I'm guessing she's from Shrift?
I agree with you that befriendable Harpies with names seem to be oddly rare though. I don't usually see Harpies around unless I'm going out of the way to find games with them in the first place. But no matter what, to me Reina and the others will always remain as the Beak Bird Girls of all time!

>>552781834
you would have to go through her files and either change or censor out all but the first two cgs of Sariella's scene to remove the cut-ins because the 'cut-ins' are actually baked directly into all of her cgs themselves, and aren't just pop ups like some other girls have, and then just ignore all of the dialogue.

once you do all of that, all that you're left with is....a mundane but frankly still really ugly looking scene of Luka being obviously tortured to death, because the bottom line is that's just simply the concept of Sariella's scene itself and you can't remove what happens just as much as you can't really remove the dryfishing or vore from the scenes where those happen either. Even then though this shit just looks rushed in some places, and given xelvy didn't even finish doing all the scenes he was paid for being vanishing from the earth it very well might have been.

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>>552783243
meant to spoiler that but eh, doesn't matter too much I guess.
some of xelvy's scenes are perfectly fine, but this just ain't one of'em.

>>552783243
At least it looks like the kind of cruelty that you expect from this game. A torture chamber built into a vagina is way too try hard. Also, I don't think he actually dies. Archangels have a really low death count, as only Gabriela and Michaela only put Luka in a coffin as far as I remember.

>>552781378
desu that just sounds like something a lot of the chaosy stuff either has or would have
definitely still ridiculous though
i've no idea who/what that is but the robo-parts are kinda cool too

>>552783769
>At least it looks like the kind of cruelty that you expect from this game
Well, that's certainly true, as I said it's a bit mundane once you blank out everything else so I do definitely agree with you on that.
I really have no idea what either trtr or xelvy were thinking though. There's "edgy", there's "tryhard" and then whatever this is. Nauseating to look at, but from the description on paper alone it's hard to even fathom how they came up with this. It almost sounds like it came from a parody.
>I don't think he actually dies
Given Sariella is explicitly both a jailer and executioner I would honestly be a little shocked if this actually did end without him dying in the process somehow, given how it looks.
I'm not going to actually watch the scene to confirm that though so I'll just take your word for it.

>>552784861
Oh that's who she was, she sounded fun in the call with Promestein to be honest. I'd wondered what that girl looked like. Neat!

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>>552782220
That's right, she's the scientist that makes contact with Promestein in the collab, but long before meeting Kazuya.
After years living underground, she looks a little less glamorous.

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>>552729645
easily Morrigan anal

>>552785135
Morrigan looks like she's genuinely concerned about Gabriela's well being in this lmao

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>>552785318
I've locked myself up in the colosseum before Uriela and now I can't even grind to fight her. I KMS

I’m not even into anal. I just love big asscheeks but hotdogging/assjob is so rare…

>>552753689
>*snaps sword*
>Got it?
>...
>W-why are you blushing!?

>>552786103
I didn't really like these things when I first saw them, then Xelvy drew them next to a human, and now I know they are actually really tiny. I grew to appreciate these midget, cannon fodder bots.

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>>552783872
>ve no idea who/what that is but the robo-parts are kinda cool too
Deneb from Hoshizora no Babylon (Battleship game but with space ships and sex). She's a space godzilla girl. Unfortunately, she's actually closer to an space elf dragonrider and the robo-parts are detachable. There are other girls in the game that are more monstrous though.

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Emily is cute.

>>552787594
>three spoken hearts
>twenty one hearts around her heart
>twelve sound effects with hearts
>four spoken hearts from Luka
>likely more hearts that were cropped out
This is the most romantic picture Luka's ever been involved in. The fact he isn't screaming and is barely crying proves it.

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>>552777209
Honestly that manga could work as an alternative timeline in Paradox:
>Ilias demands Blalice to be modified into an obedient gynoid to make sure there's no riskfor the part of her plan that requires vore.
>Prom does so but secretly also gives her the ability to get pregnant, thinking she will be easily able to control the cybernetic kid
>She's wrong
>Cyber monster lord kicks her ass
>Not a canon timeline so chaos shenanigans ensue
>Now Blalice can cope!

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>>552790527
https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN

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>>552790736
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/

>>552789779
I kind of wish TrTr surprised us more with the B.Alice invasion by introducing an AU child of Heinrich/B.Alice in the mix. Luka could have fucked another one of his long distant cousins, and make his family tree look even crazier.

>>552785135
I don't know why people hate auntie Gaben so much. Look she's even taming a Shikibus for Luka to fuck in the ass.

>>552795151
She is a stupid person, but not the kind of stupid in charming ways like Hiruko or Bonnie. Stupid in a, I hit the door with my toe because I didn't watch were I was going, kind of stupid.

>>552795151
Nobody likes traitors, but if she did so for a good or understandable reason she might get sympathy, or if she did it as part of some expert master plan you'd at least respect her as a villain. Instead she betrays when it's stupid to or when she doesn't have to, and kills more likeable characters in the process.

>>552794749
Honestly there are just so many wasted potential with all that alternative timeline thing. At the very least there should have been a kid for every ship Setouchi was asked to draw, since he seemed to like them.

>>552795589
>>552795910
It was a joke.

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they truly are good girls

>>552798746
The LukaBub character is a real strange one, just because of how unique she is. A "child" character that isn't Nero/Neris from another universe that could be recruited.
If it wasn't for her, I would have just branded the idea of AU children, regardless if Luka is the father or not, as something TrTr was intentionally avoiding.

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>>552783872
>>552787389
I'm into scifi lately, I'm listening
How is this game, how are the scenes? You can use comparisons to others like MGQ or 62 Studio if that helps explain.

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>encounter Zion
>think it's a scripted loss and give up
>ilias says you actually have to fight her
>go straight back to see how bad it is
>berserking frontline gets whittled down, even with alch regen
>dies
>don dahlia only gets one blind off
>oracle gets rock'd
>attempted temptation
>even luka goes down
>accidentally berserk with just bonnie and lucia left (forgot to switch ashel in)
>lucia goes down
>just bonnie with a regen effect and berserk
>jesus took the wheel
>broke it on zion's head
>sleep proc
>pirate bombardments
>multiple crits
>zion charging right before cc hits, putting bonnie back at max hp
>chain slept her the whole way through the beating
>victory
HOLY SHIT
BONNIE, YOU HARD FUCKING CARRY

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>>552804678
kino
thank you for sharing anon, make sure to give her a parfait for all that hard work! or something else she likes, if you don't have a parfait.

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>>552787594
It's kind of funny to think she is the love interest that is closest to Luka's age.

>>552810192
I wouldn't call her a love interest, they tease it a bit in the VN but she immediately tries to just outright eat him and in Paradox she doesn't give a fuck.

>>552810602
MTD makes it very clear she loves Luka, like a lot.
I would have just tossed this into collab fan fiction, but considering how the collab answers some key story plot points to Paradox, I think TrTr did supervise the writing enough for it to be canon.

Hey guys just wondering what the current best way to play MGQ:P is, do I merge the mtl and Arzor's translation somehow or just use one or the other.

>>552811745
NTA but I didn't know she was one of the collab characters in mtd. Do you happen to have a link to her scene? I geniunely thought she was pretty indifferent towards Luka

>>552811745
>MTD makes it very clear she loves Luka, like a lot.
Are you fucking kidding me bro, are you the same guy who said Morrigan has a crush on Luka? That's crazy

>>552813853
Are you saying that the MTD scenes don't make it clear she likes Luka a lot, or are you saying the collab isn't canon whatsoever?

>>552811745
I'm bound to believe the people behind MTD respected trtr's vision and asked him for input regarding characters and plot points, since the crossover gives the impression they were fans of MGQ.
Similarly, I'd believe it if they told me trtr strictly supervised the script as a condition for collaborating, since he's spent decades of his life working on MGQ and this is an official product using his characters, plus he did something similar with the Paradox and Shrift collab according to the Shrift dev.

Who is MTD?

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>>552812897
NTA but I actually translated Emily's character stories in the game out of curiosity since Emily being chosen at all was kind of a surprise to me. She's in the third collab, and was the freebie, with Lucretia (Queen Harpy) and Witchy being the main draws and then Chrome being paygated rip. Since Emily never really has a chance to 'talk' in a relaxed setting her getting to just talk with the Master ends up revealing that ultimately, Emily really is just a very lonely rich kid who simply lacks personal relationships outside of her mom and has no worldly experience, and Emily also idolizes her mother to the point of claiming that pretty much everyone else isn't good enough for Cassandra.
Since she's already implied to be like this in both the original world and in Paradox but never gets elaborated, it feels rather fitting for her. If anything, it just makes what happened in the original Emily even worse since her Mom basically reveals she doesn't actually love her much less care about her and then fucking eats her alive while she screams for help.

I'm not sure if I would say Emily loves Luka "a lot" at least compared to some of the other girls who got to be in MMTD as well, but she does clearly have affection for him and wants him to be her lover, even if it's in some kind of "I'm going to strangle you half to death while I'm raping you as a private show" way.
Also she struggles to grasp what love and friendship is, lacks so much self-awareness that it has to be pointed out to her that trying to molest the judges is why she keeps failing idol tryouts, and the Master trying to have her be tutored by his world's #1 idol causes Emily to try and assault her unprovoked because she doesn't even want another idol to be friends with or to help train her, she wants to be the only idol who's alive and it causes the Master to freak out and end up assembling a team simply to restrain her from hurting anyone.

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>>552816698
It's MMTD, the anon just forgot a letter. It's a game called Monmusu TD/Monster Girl Tower Defense.

One may also call it "the island with the funny kraken girl" and "that one game where MGQ and SEQUEL technically crossed over" since it did collabs with both of them. It's got some rough spots from some older story moment but as a whole, the story and events are pretty fun and it's pretty comfy overall.
Also canonically pretty much 95% of everyone who lives in this world is dumb as a rock. Intentionally so, because it's also meant to be a comedy and the vast majority of people being complete morons helps makes it very, very funny. Okyuu's probably the only one in this picture who can count higher than five.

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while thinking about Okyuu the exterior of her building is reaching 'presentable' levels now so figured I'd share it too. It's too large to get a good view of it otherwise though. wouldn't have been so tricky but the roof ended up being a pain to do right. I still have other stuff I need to do like a proper signboard, better windows and fixing the door but it's good progress at least.

What's the best way to get an underleveled party member to catch up to the rest of the party's levels in Paradox?

>>552831375
stack exp boosting effects onto them, then give everyone else in the party the accessory that doubles job xp but completely negates all level exp that they receive, and then simply punch the strongest enemies you can find around in the face until said party member catches up.
for catching them up with jobs, simply do the same thing but with the other accessory (double exp / zero job xp) and then go to either mimic island or the colosseum.

>>552834434
Thanks

>>552834745
no problem anon I did this many times over my playthrough. Mostly at the very end though. I needed at least sixteen Harpies in (roughly) equivalent fighting condition and six of them had to go through one big training montage of smacking around pandoras and random chaos monsters until they were ready.

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>>552778624
When the pussy is good enough....

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>>552804678
Bonnie is used to carrying two pieces of dead weight.

>>552813853
anon so many people are in love with luka at this point that entire kingdoms are literally going to war over who has the right to fuck him and the whole mermaid population went insane
i don't think either of those two also being into him is that much of a stretch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh1jlA4obv4
>octopuses can actively rewrite their own genetics as they're alive
Humans on suicidewatch.

They really evolved a way to edit their own RNA just to avoid being social. I kneel.

Just once I would like to have an autistic discussion about what do you think some characters sound like
I for one vision Marcellus as like japanese Grey Fox from metal gear

>>552846861
all this just to live about 5 year max and still the bottem feeder of the ocean

>>552853419
Some octopi have in fact been seen building or even using sea shells to build a temporary habitat. If they were just a little bit more social/long lived they'd probably have formed civilization like insects and monkeys.

>>552828806
I like the general shape of it. It's got some uncommon assets.
What are the events at the corners of the roof for?

>>552851895
I already said this long ago. I imagine Heinrich with a deep voice like Jun Fukuyama doing Lelouch.
Luka would sound like the OVA, and Marcellus would sound like a generic young man until he turned into a cyborg and his voice became raspier and more metallic.

>>552854957
>pottencial species
human going to kill everything before it get to that point

>>552858709
Their loss(of octopussy).

Don't worry about the state of the world guys, once the us, china and russia start fighting each other after they conquer their surroundings we're all gonna die and get either a sequel like world, a black souls like world or a monster girl quest paradox like world, is what I'd like to say but it's more likely gonna be a SHRIFT like world

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>>552859705
real world always give you worst expectation than any you could imagine form

>>552859705
for the love of god not blacksouls. jesus fucking christ do you want people to suffer shrift is far more reasonable than being under the control of a maniacal insane outer god.

also blacksouls isnt a fucking monstergirl game it has a lot of monsters in general and even some BOYS. not that i mind them i just think most people here'd not like it.

also keep in mind you got a fucking eldritch(fairyland) dork girl that's addicted to and fetishizes suffering constantly
and a mentally ill outer god(even by their non human standards) addicted to erping as a kid.

not to mention the fact they are kinda dont have human standards

i'd rather be in shrift it's far more fucking reasonable.

>>552859705
Shrift's world is pretty bad during the war but it's much better outside that period than SEQUEL or Black Souls. Demons and humans got along before cultists and greek gods made it their business to bring real predators into the human world, and the game seems to go for keeping the demon and human realms separate rather than joining them. It's pretty mundane too outside the war.
>>552860787
>a fucking eldritch(fairyland) dork girl
>a mentally ill outer god
They both got oneitis. The chances of us getting dragged into any of it are low, so it is the worst possible world but at the same time you wouldn't be aware and it wouldn't affect you as far I understood the lore. The gods are in their corner waging their war.

>>552859705
Jokes on you guys I'm booked for Lucidia Island.

>>552727913
Guys I havent been here for a while
Did part 3 post game got updated since the 2024 release?

>>552863673
in otherwords 1 day the world would randomly fucking end

>>552866803
Other than buffs and nerfs you got the Whiteyel conference post game event, more ring candidates and whoever you gave a ring to has special pocket castle dialogue when spoken to. NG+ mode still on the way.

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>>552859705
>>552860020
>open portal
>this walks through
Okay, now what?

>>552868402
MGQ shows that a single ICBM would wipe out anything that isn't at the tier of a goddess, and if a single nuke can actual hurt a transcendental being that governs the laws of reality, then multiple nukes could potentially wipe out something akin to a goddess.

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>>552868886
But with something that can split into multiple bodies and consume others for more bodies, it can be like trying to eradicate a virus
One Hiruko escaping can lead to an entire outbreak of them

>>552865101
Enjoy being an indentured bar whore for the rest of your life.

>>552868402
>now what?
try inserting your penis inside it, idk

>>552800869
>How is this game
For the most part it's a VN, but as I said it has segments that play like a Battleship game. So naturally it has quite a bit of strategy. There's not much replayability though. If you want to try it, I forgot from where I got my copy and installing it was a bit of a mess, due to it being files from a CD version and me being a caveman, but I recall seeing it on Ryuugames. The translation is not that good and doesn’t extend to the gameplay. I’d suggest you use print screen and google translate if you really need something translated instead.
>how are the scenes?
Mostly fine. The art is definitely good, imo, but a few of them have fetishes that are... questionable to put it mildly. It's been a while since I've played it, so my memory can be a bit foggy, but I recall surrendering being possible only after after the 2nd playthrough. Also, unfortunately, kind of like MGQ there is no motion in the sex scenes. My biggest complaint would be that, despite the fact that in-lore you are supposed to be one of the last few males in the universe and you're expected to get lots of women pregnant, something that'spointed out multiple times, there's very few scenes with more than one girl. If you're not interested in the gameplay, or don’t think it’s worth going through all the steps, here they are: https://hitomi.la/gamecg/hoshizora-no-babylon--semarikuru-cosmic-sukebe-onee-sans--837180.html#1

>>552868886
to be fair it's a nuke built in a setting that has magic.

on top of that it'd potentially start ww3

on top of that HIRUKO CAN FUCKING CLONE HERSELF AND HAS SHOWN THE CAPACITY TO EAT ANYTHING

>>552873142
I want to be absorbed by Hiruko and turned into her clone

>>552868402
everything in mgq is so retarded that i can't take anything in it seriously

>>552868402
>>552869704
>Look at her eyes directly
>say she is the most beautiful woman i've ever seen
>shows her "true form"
>still say she is the most beautiful woman i've ever seen
>???
Either i die quick or i spent eternity making love to her

>>552837969
Shut up, pizza boy.

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>>552868402
>>552869704
Modern pharma industry can fix her...

>>552868402
One of the funny things about MGQ and its collabs, is that laws, and rules don't transcend dimensions. Luka entering the SP universe was a victim of said rules, no matter how strong he was.
Hiruko, or anyone from MGQ, is going to be working under the system that runs our universe. What that system could be is up in the air, but the White Rabbit did kind of hint that magic just wont work here.

>>552868402
Shove her aside and step into the portal

>>552874545
>undocumented
>weirdly high stamina
They're gonna use monster girls as slaves aren't they?

>>552874545
Hiruko doesn't rely on Magic though, she works on the kind of zombie body horror sci-fi bullshit that is accepted in "real" world settings

>>552875534
They might not even have that amazing stamina for all we know. The RPG mechanic that dictates the power of a individual in MGQ, might not work, and now they have powers that is limited to how logic, and real world physics determines it.
That super cute fox girl with two tails might suddenly end up being just a child with serious balancing issues, because two really long tails sticking out of their bottom vertebrate might screw them over in the long run.

>>552874545
>he doesn't know that our universe is part of the MGQ multiverse

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>reading a manga about a cute guild receptionist couple in a city that is being repeatedly attacked by goblins
>guy is the typical kindhearted man that treats everyone nice
>already assume the receptionist girl will end up raped senseless
>she was actually a monster in disguise exploiting her position to get rid of any woman getting chummy with him by directing the goblin horde under her command to murder and rape the human women
Oof

>>552874545
the sp thing was contrived bullshit cuz in the shrift collab luka does get his shit back after talking to kazuya for 1 and 2. luka's chaos abilities override universe rules i've seen

3 luka is half human so none of this shit makes sense luka cuz luka is a half being its like he shouldnt exist if his abilities wont cuz that shit should be innate

>>552876031
I don't think they use magic to balance their tails as they walk. I'm more interested in what monster girls like Slimes, Ghosts/Zombies etc in general will be like.

>>552874545
>>552877129
I wouldn't be surprised if the SP thing were just the result of Luka entering Vinum's house.

>>552877129
Luka and Alice do have their powers limited by going into Shrift world. They mention feeling their bodies are heavier in that world because there's little to no mana in the air. White Rabbit uses herself as an antenna that connects them to Kazuya so they can stay materialized and use their magic, though even then they can't use their full power.. That's why if Kazuya cums inside a girl the collab characters are sent back to their world.
Luka's chaos powers don't seem affected by this, though, or maybe yes and they're just that powerful that they can still finish off an outer god.

>>552874545
>>552877129
When you put the half-angel part, yes. He shouldn’t suffer a loss of power as extreme as it did in the Succ Trio’s world. It’d make sense if he was pureblooded since Paradox makes a big deal of the mana boosting up the other heroes to the levels they are since they come from worlds with less mana.
But with the angelic side, and not having overuse issues in Paradox, he should have independent fighting capacity from that much like in the VN.

>>552877129
The heroes from the multiple universes lost access to their powers, and skills the moment they entered the MGQ one. They only got them back when they started playing by the universe's rules, and using the RPG mechanic exclusive to MGQ.
Even the items not related their inner power stopped working, like Lauratt's rune, which absorbed magic. It wasn't until he got the blessings of the MGQ version of its nature spirits did it finally start working properly.

>>552878798
Transcendent beings might be exempt from needing to follow the rules of said universe, since they are kind of using a cheat code.
Though, our universe is kind of funny, since the White Rabbit really goes out of her way to explain how it was super unique due to the complete lack of magic, and how its echoes were really strong, effecting the universe that came after it in profound ways.
God like beings like Galactus' niece, and sleepy squid tits, don't seem to exist at all here too, even if they are aliens too.

>>552880337
Yeah I'd make the assumption that once Luka goes full FoC he's probably not going to be negatively impacted by going to collab worlds the same way he was before, because he's now more or less a fundamental force and not just some guy leeching up mana.

>>552877130
I'm going to guess the complete lack of magic is going to really ruin some of these species day. Slimes might just turn into puddles, maybe multiple puddles depending on how many "minds" are in there. Ghosts girls are strange in that they are not really spirits, so just a really weakened monster? Zombies are just going to stop moving, maybe still have cognitive thought while lying around, but would just look like a inanimate corpse.

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>>552868402
I will tell her go get Minagi instead.

>>552880337
it got to the point out actual stories and myths affected the world after.

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>>552729645
>yes fox
>likes fox

>>552879140
and yet the succubi spawn in op and nightmares are fuckin bullshit for no reason

>>552868402
I lick her face, tell her she tastes good and try to hold my laughter as I watch this braindead Big Back eat herself.

>>552887548
Isn't the whole issue with the succubus thing because the White Rabbit was a retard, and left one of her corpse to be picked up by a furry fox?
They are not exactly the typical universe jumpers.

>>552846861
>>552847238
That's incredible I don't think I've heard anything like this before! They truly are fascinating little creatures. This helps with a theory I had regarding her too, so thanks anon!
>>552854957
take a look at Octopolis and Octlantis sometime, it's pretty great. if they weren't biologically designed to begin self-destructing the moment they mated these things 100% would've both been longer lived and developed some form of rudimentary culture like the vast majority of sentient non-human animals have by this point. part of the reason their intelligence is limited to the degree it is comes simply from the fact that octopi are incapable of passing any of their knowledge down (by virtue of being, well, too dead to do that by the time their offspring are developed enough) so all of them have to start from scratch every time.

>>552877130
>>552883932
>succubi starve since you can't fuel a human-sized body using only semen
>worm summoners and mermaids dehydrate immediately
>apoptosis just cease the second they cross over for obvious reasons
>same with dullahan and mirages
What happens with Lisa?

>>552888378
I've seen octopi herd schools of fish and use them to hunt more efficiently. Imagine trading with an octopus for fish...

>>552889110
She gets braces.

>>552887432
Remind me again, is Hirume a butter addict, a muscle lover, or likes them fresh.

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>>552855420
Thanks anon, I appreciate the input. I had to edit several of these (like the windows and some of the roof tiles) just to make them work, although her little skyuu flag's design was something I made myself.
>What are the events at the corners of the roof for?
It's just to help smooth out the transition so the roof looks better.
Since VXAce by default only has two 'layers' (for lack of better term), to make the roof flow correctly at this size and not have an abrupt sharp edge or obvious tile jutting out I needed to have two of those diagonal roof tiles on it, so my choices were to either keep editing the tiles until I made one that looked good or just use the event system as a 'third layer' to add both of the ones I needed.
I've actually been doing this quite a lot, as it allows you to be much more creative with making complex or intricate structures: Okyuu's Cafe Interior has a number of things that would have otherwise been completely impossible to pull off without this 'third layer', although the only large-scale example of it in there is just her bar counter for the hanging plants. Similarly, doing this allowed Okyuu to fit inside her food stall, and also allowed for other more minor things like being able to add the flag to the side of the cafe. It's really fun how much this lets you expand your options for creating places to be honest!
>>552889397
They've also been known to work with certain fish to help them hunt other fish or prey, and then punch the "partner" (rolling up the tentacle and then smacking them upside the face) in order to either enforce the octopus getting their fair share of pay or as a 'disciplinary' action prior in order to keep the partner inline and warn them about trying to stiff the octopus.
basically
>FUCK YOU PAY ME (WHERE'S MY MONEY)
>BETTER HAVE IT FOR ME TONIGHT
>FUCK YOU PAY ME (THIS GIRL IS CRAZY)
>YOU WON'T GET OUTTA THIS WITHOUT A FIGHT

>>552889539
Half of her body is stuck in painting.

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>>552889110
>lack of magic kills off every other species
>except the holy mankind empire and the angels
Holy based TRTR

>>552891282
i would like to remind you angels are made up entirely of holy energy and will most likely dissipate due to the complete lack of it

>>552891282
>>552891519
No Fun Allowed world.

>>552891519
That means the robots and automata probably actually make it through then without major problems.

>>552891254
Ghosts are illogical, and hard science disproves their existence. Goodbye ghostie, you don't belong in this universe. The painting left behind will have a really spooky story behind it, but it's just a painting.
>>552891519
Yeah, the moment they land on some magicless world without holy energy, they will then try to absorb something else, like dark energy, which is why they get called fallen angels. Unless they do a Michaela/Lucifina, and become human, and this is probably the same for monsters that are heavily dependent on mana, they are going to probably die out.

>>552891931
I think more basic monsters like Harpies and Mermaids would honestly be fine, they'd just lack a lot of their magic but they don't need that magic to function on a fundamental level. But the Robots would likely be the ones who'd change the least.

>>552891850
Well, it's made pretty clear the 7th Universe was boring, and soulless. And their need for escapism of the mundane was so strong, that echoes for something more than the cruel reality created the 8th Universe as we know it.

>>552891519
iirc the angels actually become more human-like. They lose the super long lifespan though.
I don't remember the specifics of the Q&A

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>>552892026
Promestein will lead us into the Golden Age of Technology.

>>552892026
>he doesn't know
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_(physics)

>>552892828
Plebbit: the character
>I heckin' LOVE science!
>I heckin' LOVE humanity (despite using them as disposable guinea pigs like fucking Umbrella corp)

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>>552893680
Willing to tolerate it if she can develop full-dive VR at an affordable price within my lifetime.

>>552892229
Aren't Harpies imbued with strong wind magic that gives them the power of flight? Which is how the harpy feathers work as they do? I think it's the same with the Succubi, who have the favor of the wind spirits.
Can't really say the same for Mermaids if they need the water spirits to do their thing, since they are descendants of an ancient sea species that are borderline eldritch horror.

>>552892828
Her inventions:
>Semen squeezer 9000
>Automatic semen squeezer
>Sentient semen squeezer
>Semen-powered soldiers
>Artificial monsters (they feed on semen)

>>552893680
she loves humanity as a whole not as a individual

Stories then:
>slay the dragon
>defeat the evil witch
>rescue the princess
Stories now:
>lay the dragon
>lay the evil witch
>ignore the princess
What happened?

>>552899125
>>ignore the princess
You missed the update, we lay the princess as well as her hand maid and even mother.

>>552899125
Nobody wants to rescue some king's spoiled brat who is going to be married off some bumfuck noble. If those 'hideous hags' turn out to be sexy goth chicks, dragons turn out to be the ultimate sugar mommas, then why fight for some king?

>>552899125
Harems are now a popular option with this kind of story telling. Everyone, the female villain, the villain's female officers, the childhood female friend, the female party members, the princess, the queen, and the goddess herself is now going to be plapped, and conquered to bring eternal peace to the world.

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>>552897470
From my research, Harpies actually seem to have two kinds of feathers. The majority of a Harpy's feathers are normal, but some of their feathers are imbued with faint traces of magic that are dependent on the individual Harpy in question; 'normal' Harpies have barely any magic in them at all but a stronger Harpy would have extremely powerful ones.
But in general, while Harpies can use their wind powers to strength their capacity to fly, they don't need to rely on the magic just to be able to fly in the first place.

The downside to this is that, because Harpies do not use magic to fly and need to be able to do it themselves, and thus aren't as reliant on magic as other species are, the physical body of the Harpy itself is geared very very heavily towards enabling this level of flight (such as being much lighter and having the hollow bones). This is absolutely the reason why Harpies are so frail compared to every other race, because they have to be in order to still fly, and they also can't equip or even use a lot of heavier objects without extensive training at which point they are using magic to help them. They're much more 'natural' compared to a Succubus. ironically, you could also say that their natural means of flight means they are much more "grounded".

tl;dr some of their feathers have traces of magic but others don't seem to have any (the beautiful feathers you get for example) unless the Harpies give them magic. Harpy Feathers are strengthened versions of the magical feathers that they do have, but for normal Harpies the feather isn't able to handle the powerful magic which is why it breaks after a single use. The Infinite Harpy Feather comparatively seems to have been made by Lucretia herself, and as the Queen Harpy she's strong enough to make one that can be used as many times as you want.

So they nor Mermaids would be crippled by a lack of magic, they just wouldn't be able to do a lot of their more powerful techniques.

also while we're on the subject of 'different worlds changing how x behaves', since both the Seven Heroes collaboration and the 'real world' have been brought up prior, I'd also like to add to this that in the collaborations for MMTD the Monster Girl Quest cast seem to suffer absolutely zero changes at all (not even Luka, as while you can't recruit him he canonically does fight all the enemies alongside you and the bonus boss version of him is even stronger than Alice herself is), and in fact many of them even keep their unique abilities from Paradox (like Lucretia having the only stackable attack speed buff in the game, because Sky Dance also stacks with other buffs, or Hild's machina ignoring all enemy defense and piercing through them, etc).

It's possible that MMTD simply has an extremely similar world to MGQ, but changes in power could also just be nothing more than a matter of plot requirements. For example if Luka had his full level of abilities for the SP section for example you would just be able to completely bypass the entirety of all the puzzles by just knocking out all three of them, which (whether one likes it or not) defeats the point of what trtr wanted that segment to be, so it's simply restricted so you have to actually 'do' the reference puzzle in order to save the pizza guy. If you've ever heard of 'Narrative Causality' it's basically that. A rough summary would be "regardless of how improbable or contradictory the thing that is happening is, that thing is required to happen, or else the story doesn't happen". The most common example of this is just plot armor. Why do certain characters sometimes survive situations against improbable odds? Because otherwise the story ends, so they are required to survive or else there is no story. Sometimes you just gotta accept that something is gonna happen because that's how the story is gonna play out, basically.

>>552904336
I think these universe crossovers is ultimately going to be determined by mana, and the game mechanics that these setting play straight, which aren't some hidden number spread sheet for the player alone.
MMTD looks to be quite the heavy magic fantasy setting, where anyone can become a magician, since mana is so abundant. There is a heaven, with angels that also have their own magic system similar to holy power. Not to mention this is a world where the spirits do take physical form, and can communicate with people.
I think MGQ, and any of its collab characters (outside of maybe SHRIFT guys) are going to feel right at home here.

>>552907063
The mechanics are actual parts of their world, yeah, and it's entirely true that the state of their abilities could just be entirely dependent on how 'magical' the world that they're entering into is, rather than just being justified as it needs to be for how they wanted the story to go. It does help that MMTD has a lot of inspiration from MGQ in the first place, down to there even being multiple character references, like the young hero and the old legendary hero being parodies of Luka and Lazarus respectively and the Gnome Girl looking extremely similar to Gnome herself.
I've just seen many an argument over the Succubus Prison segment (specifically the part where you have to go to that world) during the collab before over whether Luka should've logically still been able to use his powers or not since the Succubi can use all of their own magic just fine and that one guy can summon a world-ending demon that kills everybody, so even some random nameless guy can make some magic happen there with the right cards. So my point is just that regardless of the justifications given behind why he can't, the reason why Luka can't is ultimately because if he could then he would bulldoze the entire thing and trtr didn't want him to do that since the segment is intended to be a gameplay shoutout to SP and it wouldn't work if they could just get punched enough times to take a nap.

>>552910259
I'm telling you, Vinum worked some magic on that house.

>>552910259
I think the whole SP thing comes down to some dialogue that comes up with Luka wondering why the hell he keeps losing so badly after just one succ stare down.
I'm trying to remember when this talking point happens, but that is where the whole, "world is not like our own, succubi always win there, you can't beat them no matter what you do, just try to survive" explanation comes in.

>>552899125
>lay the dragon
Big, rich and she want's kids whats not to love?
>lay the evil witch
Witches are evil is not true in myth all witches were devoted wives that got betrayed by their faithless husbands aka Medea
>ignore the princess
Between a hot dragon woman, a loyal and beautiful witch why would i want a disgusting and spoiled incest baby who i imagine her character is as pleasant as that monster known daji(real life one) there is a reason why a prince almost always marries a common girl or country girl

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>>552799992
The dude that asked for 2 and a half semi-imaginary kids probably felt a bit jealous.

>>552911013
I saw an anon (possibly (you)) who said that in the thread earlier, and it's an entirely reasonable explanation to be honest. It's already made abundantly clear that she's the one who's really in charge (or, well, the wrangler of the other two more or less) and is far more devious and older than Myusca and Nemea. She's someone who took delight in proving her superiority over heroes, beguiling them or luring them into traps, crushing their wills and corrupting their souls for her own amusement, and most of what happens in that game is purely just because Vinum is bored and is allowing you to try and escape just to see if you can actually pull it off. Paradox also confirms she's demon royalty, which by extension also explains why they in particular are so strong and why Vinum is much more cautious. The boobytraps around the house were probably made by her, and she seems to believe that there's still a chance someone would might hunt them down, so her making sure the place is rigged to help weaken potential heroes would be pretty in-character for her to do.

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>>552899125
>>ignore the princess

>>552912404
>Medea
Come on man, you had Circe right there but you had to pick Medea?

>>552912983
It's kind of funny how rather grounded this family is. Maybe it's because they are "human", but these small peeps don't attract the attention as the weirdoes Alice or the Purple Bub popped out.

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>>552911013
>>552911242
I went to double check through my screenshots since I enjoyed recording the entirety of my adventure, and despite never even meeting Vinum on the one mandatory scripted loss that's required to progress the event (I didn't know the layout of the house and walked into Nemea's room by mistake) Luka still explicitly says that it's Vinum who's the biggest challenge to him, and while it's possible they might've mentioned something about the different worlds making him a weaklet if they did I'm not seeing it in what I have. Heck, Vinum even says that she can tell Luka's far, far stronger than he looks, meaning she both knows that he's a competent hero and that Luka still actually has the power to be able to fight her in this scenario since if he was too weak to fight back, Vinum wouldn't have thought he was strong.

If anything it just seems like it never comes up, because they just use their magic to charm him, and Luka by default doesn't have immunity to that unless you specifically train Luka to get an ability that will negate it or equip him with something that does. ". Heck, given the angel races by default are WEAKER to both pleasure ailments and pleasure itself by a noticeable degree that's probably the actual reason he loses on his own. The vulnerability just makes him automatically afflicted by those skills and then they kill him while he's helpless, because if they didn't charm him Luka seems like he actually could genuinely hurt them here.

So honestly seeing this again as far as I can tell it just sounds more like "aw crap I forgot my seduction guard at home" than it does "aw crap my powers don't work here".

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>>552899125
>>lay the dragon
>>lay the evil witch
>>ignore the princess
Umm...

>>552916054
They are both princesses so it cancels out with those two.

>>552913436
>>552915750
I want more...

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>>552918125
you'll have to be more specific

>>552920146
I want "more" SP worldbuilding.

>>552920624
Ah, well, I'm going to have to confess to you anon that I've never really played Succubus Prison much less beaten it; I think I had downloaded it at one point many years back and did the intro but never progress beyond a few minutes after that and I didn't even die to any of them, I just wasn't really interested in the escape room thing. Pretty much everything in it seems like not my fetish territory for me too.
It's just not my kind of game, is all.

Also if I'm being totally honest one of the other reasons I lost interest is that it was only during the intro where I learned how the protagonist is a cowardly limp-dicked bitch who went along with being bullied into helping two guys rob/rape/murder (in that order, specifically) a bunch of high school girls on the pretense that they wouldn't be able to defend themselves at all, only for the 'girls' to turn out to be some demon king's hellbeasts from the underworld, and I for the life of me REALLY struggle to feel that sorry for this guy given that he willing runs back into the house after being freed in order to use his time loop artifact to have all the sex he wants with them in the collab until the loop eventually gets broken when they're summoned, leading to Myusca killing him.

Really, almost everything that I do know about the game comes from the collaboration, and what other anons have shared, but it was the collab that seemed to shine a light on some stuff like revealing that Vinum is a Demon Princess and is much more wary or cautious when she thinks they might be in danger due to her familiarity with fighting heroes while the other two don't truly understand that they're in danger until she beats it into their heads.

If I can find anything else that I've not already mentioned though, then I'll share it as well.

>>552914587
Anon doesn't want to get turned into a pig.

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Also I found this from when Luka gets summoned for the very first time, prior to the scripted death, and yeah it's really really obvious at this point that the problem is not him somehow losing his powers in their world due to deus ex machina reasons but instead Luka just being crippling weak to what they specialize in (premature ejaculator hero + weak to pleasure + weak to pleasure ailments + no back-up to throw some delust onto him) and not having the same experience that the OG Luka did with the spirits, as the Original Luka (by necessity as he didn't have anyone else to party up nor any accessories or such either) was skilled enough to be able to use Sylph or Undyne in order to avoid magical eye enchantments that were just as strong and dangerous (ie; if you get hit by them on a higher difficulty you just get stunlocked and die).

So if the Original Luka was here he probably could've fought them more straightforwardly, but due to Singularity!Luka's circumstances he just gets charmed and then, well, gets stunlocked and dies.

>>552915750
Luka defeated Lilith, Morrigan, and Alma around this time period, so him cowering at the thought of fighting Vinum disgusts me. There is a reason why this SP thing is greatly disliked by the community, having Luka take the place of the coward who helped a bunch of rapists break into a house to murder people, and still pretending to be still be some helpless human to amplify the "horror" aspect of the OG SP game is one of them.
I think Luka taking over the body of the MC of SP would have been a better option, maybe as a spirit.

>>552923397
I might be misremembering, but weren't the other guys threatening to kill him if he didn't help them? While his actions are bad, he's not doing it because he likes raping or because they were just calling him a faggot if he refused. Also he comes back because the pleasure of having sex with a succubus is such that it breaks his mind. In the default endings when you escape after just one game over, he comes back eventually because he can't resist temptation anymore. It's too much for a human to resist. If you die a single time he goes back to his human life then returns eventually. If you die a lot he can't even get away from the house before returning. The implication is he died so much he got the worst possible outcome

>>552924440
>Luka defeated Lilith, Morrigan, and Alma with help from friends*
that's the problem here.
Canonically, Luka is never fighting them alone. During the encounters with them, he always views those three as extremely powerful and dangerous combatants, he never thinks he can just charge in and beat them on his own over the course of Part 2. You could have Luka fight them alone, sure, and yeah if you beat them that's pretty based but there's still clearly an underlying idea of what trtr intends the canon of the main story to be and S!Luka being able to just walk up to Alma and one on one her on the spot right then and there at that point in time (much less a Succubus who's implied to be stronger than Alma, and also has two back-up, while he's alone in a place that's also got traps) just is not in the cards, man.

Like I have to be totally honest with you now that I'm actually remembering the circumstances behind what happens in the time loop event I think this kind of reaction is just really overblown. I definitely was never bothered by it THAT much back then, beyond just mild annoyance at the one mandatory death, but I think this whole thing has just gotten out of proportion. Some people made it sound like this whole thing was some kind of "anti-luka-magic" zone, and not "the version of Luka who never had to train to avoid charms when going solo is going to struggle against Succus on his own so it's better to just find another way around it".

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>>552923397
I get you.
I meant I wanted more games set in the same universe.
We're getting one soon, but it's an expansion on Babyzela, and that's not my thing.
Might buy it anyway.
>>552924651
They don't really say what the threat was. Just that the main character was scared enough to go along with them.

>>552924440
vinum makes more sense than the other two fucktards cuz she's the actually strong one of the trio de shiki(dryfishspam)

then again vinum is also the only one you can bargain with and cant win the game cuz she's fucking bored.

the issue with this shit is this is the same luka that did the fucking shrift colab. WHOM IS HONESTLY MORE IN CHARACTER THAN HE IS DURING PARADOX.

Just a random thing to add in regards to Luka being weak to charm magic in the original VN he's never seen resisting it and your only way of avoiding being seduced when monsters use demon eyes is using Sylph which makes you either avoid it or the wind finds various ways to block your eyes.

>>552926516
He gets one shotted regardless of the dryfishing trio he fights. In not just a unwinnable RPG battle either, but one succi glare, and he drops like a helpless fish, and gets dry sucked.
So no, this is definitely a big issue. TrTr made his MC out to be some weak willed little idiot who already fought against some of the most powerful succubi his world can offer him, even the SP three as well, and acts like he has never prepared for a ultra powerful succubus battle before.
I know what you are trying to say, but Luka was already in this position before. Him forgetting about charm resistances, while he suddenly gets the strange idea of putting sleeping pills in a soda can is just ridicules.

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>>552924651
>'don't they threaten to kill him'
>yeah, I think so but there's still ways to handle that with some dignity
>....actually, why was he even in this situation in the first place again?
>did it get brought up in the intro or was it just glossed over for the premise
>can't remember
>figure at this point i might as well go look up a playthrough and just watch the intro again
>find one
>the player names the main character "lunch"
lmao
yeah they threaten to kill him.
They also all but say (given he overhears them plotting to "throw him to the wolves") that they're either going to throw him under the bus if something goes wrong or will force him to take the blame for the crime.
However it's also said that he's familiar with them (so they didn't just grab some random guy off the streets or anything, the three know each other) and the narrowing down with
>To put it bluntly, he's in a position where it's impossible to oppose these men.
>...However, he did not think it would reach the point where he was being forced to commit crimes for them.
to me would heavily imply that rather than just being an innocent bystander, he's been doing 'favors' for these two guys for a while, this was just when it escalated into open crimes. It's hard to know the specifics of it, but he clearly did something to wind up in this situation where the two have enough dirt on him to force him to help their dirty work and then pin it on him afterwards.
>>552926621
That's fair, yeah.
I'm not familiar with who that is, but hopefully it turns out well for you.
As far as the unspoken threat, trying to leave gets "I don't want to think about what will happen to me if I back out now".
>>552927917
That's correct, which is why the distinction between which Luka is important as well: the original Luka trained to specifically be able to avoid magic eyes or blind his gaze to prevent this from ever happening, while singularity Luka never does and can't replicate this with his Sylph either.

>>552928583
it's a cutscene. the skill/sound affect pops up and then they charm him and lure him off. given the only one who's ever emphasized as a threat by him narratively seems to be Vinum, then the intended canon of how the timeloop plays out is likely intended as Luka getting killed by her the first time and then taking measures to bypass her fight and avoid the other two.
>weak willed little idiot
anon I really just don't agree with you on this. you keep forgetting that canonically Singularity Luka fights all of these enemies with his entire team, which at minimum is "intended" to always include Alice/Ilias and Sonya, and he fought those three together with a lot of back up. He is not acting like he has never fought a powerful succubus before, Luka is making the tactical judgement that if he struggled against the three with a team then it's an uphill battle to fight them on his own. Even if he did have immunity to statuses he still has to deal with powerful auto-hit pleasure attacks by himself.

Like yes you can argue that if you do actually go out of the way to have Luka solo the trio then logically your Luka should be able to do it again but this is like me trying to argue that because I turned Reina into a god-slaying bird of judgement who kicked these three's asses that that's what happens.

Which to say, yes it does happen and is 'canon', but in the "the infinite multiverses they revealed make everything canon" sense.
There's still objectively a defined canon "main" story trtr wants for the singularity world. It happens in "your world"/save but that's not what actually happens in the central singularity timeline. Luka struggled a lot, he's clearly weaker than the OG Luka, and he has no true way to protect himself against them.
And if you point to accessories that's just going to wrap back into the narrative causality thing again ("this doesn't happen because that's not what the writer wants to have happen and you need to accept that").

>>552876745
S O U R C E ? ?

>>552876745
>ilias was right again
Funny, that.

>>552932494
I know what TrTr is trying to do, he made it very clear in a interview back when the collab was released. He wanted to emulate the terror and suspense of the OG SP game, only in the RPGmaker engine, or whatever you want to call it.
And he failed, no doubt about it. Luka acts like a headless chicken, keeps dying over and over again the same way if you don't get properly prepared, makes these SP succubi mountains that Luka couldn't hope to overcome after he already kicked their asses, all the while he still hangs around his MGQ pals in he Pocket Castle, some telling him he should hurry about solving the problem while eating some mystery pizza, and even laughs at his weak dick for losing so badly.
It was pure drivel.

>>552933804
I guess ultimately, if you dislike the segment then that's perfectly understandable, and I do agree that it would have been more fun if you were at least allowed to "try" and fight them on your own if you really wanted to, but after looking back at it I just think what happens in the succubus prison segment has gotten really blown out of proportion and it's still just like five or ten minutes at the end of the day.

To me, Luka just comes across as being tactical and intelligent in trying to avoid them (also killing them will likely cause a paradox since he's going back to the past to do this anyhow), and him having no resistance to this stuff is very in-character for him, so while I would've liked to punch them in the face again I guess I don't really mind since Reina can just ragdoll the three anytime she wants now and they're forced into becoming his (unwilling) servants via castle imprisonment anyways. It just seems like this is a bit of an overexaggeration is all.

>He wanted to emulate the terror and suspense of the OG SP game, only in the RPGmaker engine
anon succubus prison is an rpgmaker game
which is admittedly why i never found it scary, either, because it's just really really hard to make an rpgmaker game scary
the soundtrack's good though

>>552934680
Depending on if you used a guide, or maybe even played the OG SP game. This segment could be an absolute slog to go through if you do it the trial and error way.
Which was also the big issue back when the collab came out. It just got super boring with the three day cycle thing. I did like the extra dialogue with your PC companions, but it is something that I really don't want to do again, even knowing how to beat it the fastest way possible.

>>552935318
I don't think most people take question with the idea of not wanting to do the thing again, but to be fair that applies to the entirety of the collab itself and not just the time loop scenerio.

>>552933804
succubus prison didnt scare me it pissed me off

also i think the other games deserved a special segment more than succubus prison cuz its the lamest one and really really exasterbates luka's desire to just have everyone alive even if they are a nutcase.

Like people are meming on shit in part 3 in luka tryna save omnicidal maniacs but the succ prison shit was a sign to come

>>552937250
Nobody cares about the other games. Even Three Charms posting died down.

>>552937875
people care enough to complain about shrift this very day.

>>552937250
Yeah, the SP trio are monsters who really shouldn't be breathing after the collab was done. Yeah we got the whole "potentially destroying the multiverse threat, with their deaths" excuse, but they made way too many enemies to just keep them in some back corner of the castle, and even inviting them to a party of all things.
But TrTr wanted that collab, so he couldn't just not have them be recruitable

plap plap plap plap

how much sex do you think actually goes on in the pocket castle since Luka in character is off limits? I mean it's full of horny apopotsis, angels, monsters and human girls and a few guys, through Merlin, Hienrich and Marcellus are clearly also off limits, all those other NPC dudes we brought along like sara's two attendants, that guard from iilias village, the four, well 3 pornof people, I think the fourth was removed because TrTr pissed off japan since the guy was a rather dark joke about a suicide.

Even if they don't kill them I can't imagine any of those dudes being able to roam around and not get plapped.

>>552937250
anon they make it really really clear that the reason they don't kill the three is because it has an extremely high chance of causing some kind of paradox event that could make the chaos situation even worse than it already is should they attempt to interfere in any other universe's world that badly, and Luka forces them into the pocket castle as a way to keep an eye on them so the trio cannot hurt anyone else. They are, essentially, in the closet equivalent to jail that they're ever going to get.

like yeah I get that's not satisfying enough if you just wanted to kill them or something but they collaborated with a game where part of the premise is collecting them all and you can't do that if they're dead. If you were hoping to off them you were setting yourself up for disappointment form the start.

>>552937982
You mean one mindbroken schizo.

>>552933212
This one: https://mangadex.org/title/e3fce0e2-27e5-4d26-aba7-874dc9dcfa2d/sousei-no-apocrypha

>>552938503
I think the three pornoff guys actually gross out the other monster girls so much that you couldn't PAY them to have sex with them.
otherwise half of the Monster Girls are actually perfectly sensible or normal girls more or less and can simply keep it in check because they aren't excessively horny.
the other half (judging by some of their comments) are plotting to kidnap and rape Luka when they think they have the chance, routinely sneak out of the castle to do what they need to do and are probably fine with molesting poor Pilate if the opportunity presents itself.

I don't think as much sex happens there as you'd actually think happens there, but a lot of the girls there probably wish the amount of sex that you'd think would've happened would actually happen.

>>552938551
The three SP succubus are invited to the Yanatai festival. After Luka helps Chrome catalog the pile of corpses they created in their rampage of the Noah region.

>>552933804
Honestly the collab as a whole was just bad from every aspect.

>>552937250
People didn't care for anything that wasn't Three Charms, Shrift or Succubus Prison. The initial announcement drew the most excited reactions out of the general even without factoring the reveal of the crossover itself. RoBF got some jokes about Asgar teaching trtr to hate gaijins but other than that people seemed to agree they showed all the good picks on the first post.
As for focusing on them
>Shrift is the only game with cgs made for MGQ and has its own collab
>Three Charms has its own collab that gets an ad in MGQ
>Succubus Quest was already the most important guest game in the collab and if the time loop was about them people would be complaining about shilling Est even more
The rest don't have that much of interest to make a new event, and the Time Loop actually gives them something even if it's small.
The Succubus Prison parts actually make the best use out of the characters. The most talked about collab interactions ('they must be homosexuals', the prostitute Hakunen joke, the karaoke and the room you must have sex in to escape) happen in segments related to the Succubus Trio and involve characters from different games talking to each other.

>>552939269
Luka doesn't really like them nor even want to talk to them while they're there, I'm not sure if 'invited' is the right word. not like they didn't enjoy something mundane, but he's still keeping an eye on them so they don't just run off and start adding yamatai corpses to that pile. They're probably just there so he can make sure they don't try anything while it's going on.

also Vinum starts badgering him about the book he used to trap her while Luka attempts to ignore her prodding, meaning she actually remembers that encounter with him and getting bested by him in what she perceives as a battle of their wits rather than just his strength (which happened too) seems to be living rent free in her head.
Which isn't a punishment per-se, but I do think it's genuinely pretty funny that Vinum seems like she's actually bothered by this and wants to provoke Luka into "revealing" himself so she can try to confront him about it.

>>552939421
I don't think I agree entirely but it's definitely the weakest part of Paradox by far. It's also clearly where the snowballing power creep went out of control, which I think is probably the biggest issue. Conditionals started it, sure, but the collab took it to a whole other level.

>>552940206
Maybe if the whole, soul transfer business, was made clear by this collab, and these people killed "should" be hanging around MW, it wouldnt have come off as bad at the time.
But fuck MW, so it still is bad now that we got a taste of Makai Planet.

>>552941149
The SP trio has nothing to do with that, also 4 our ot 6 ancestors ended up being actually good, much better than AW even.

>>552941149
>these people killed "should" be hanging around MW
if you're talking about all the victims during the collab then yes they're in the MW now, and technically are fine at this point since the merger will have brought them back to the singularity world anyways.
I don't remember it being this staunchly hated "at the time", either by most anons, just general annoyance at certain things since it's just one and done as a whole.
also both monster world and angel world are equally horrible and nightmarish places to live, it's just comparing 1984 with a free-for-all.

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>>552798746
I'm still made we didn't get any kids for the Knights.

>>552942442
>made
mad*

>>552942356
Tell that to Luddite Village who mysteriously disappeared. Did they get eaten again when they went to MW, or did they get packed up, and sent into the reincarnation cycleimmediately after the Lilith feeding frenzy? Both are not good things.

>>552942893
Anyone who has a living counterpart is merged with that counterpart. Anyone who doesn't is reincarnated.
Not really a system I like but that's what happened to them at least. If anyone in Luddite had a version of them alive in MW then that's what happened to them.

>>552942356
>I don't remember it being this staunchly hated "at the time"
It wasn't. People are more inclined to talk about the things they dislike, though. The collab is old and the only people talking about it now are those who disliked it, giving the impression it was always the majority opinion.
For comparison, Shrift is on a similar position where if you look at past threads there was actual discussion and hype for it, but now there's more people who disliked it than fans who will voice their opinion.
Three Charms would actually get more talked about if it had anything people strongly disliked about it, but really it's the least offensive of the popular games bere so it gets indifference for the most part nowadays. Not even Daimyoukai gets mentioned anymore. You'd believe people never talked about it at all.

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Eye m finally done. Apparently, only until the next update.

The highlights for me were:
1. The parts where Luka says fuck you all I'm not doing shit and then everyone around starts to panic.
2. The atmosphere of the first tartaruses and apoptosis enemies that seemed like non-negotiable abominations.
3. A visit to Hiruko Sabasa. Pure kino.
4. Eva and her additional dialogues in the world as a companion.

I hacked the save file to carry as many party members as my PC could handle and there were almost no additional interactions in the world with apoptosis companions. Pic is my favourite design, she has 0 interactions in the world with any npc. Even the scene in the castle where she does not kill you is bugged.

Guess I'll be checking the game files soon to see what dialogue each character has for niche situations, such as a random village mesugaki for skills when she ascends to godhood, bosses reactions to omorashi and vore.

Looking forward to the next part just for Singularity. Guess it'll come out by 2035.

>>552944998
It's fine, trtr is hiring a team of writers to put out the next update faster.
The writers are Tetsuya Nomura, Chris Avellone and Toyotarou.

>>552942356
I kind of wish TrTr went all in on his original plan to make both worlds as awful as possible, and ending part 3 with the finale of MW/AW as the closing act.
But TrTr really would have had to be dedicated enough to Part 4's late development, while most of the cast of characters become incredibly hated.

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>>552944998
Glad you had a great time anon! Hopefully NG++ is out and translated by that point, at least. It's possible. You could also try a challenge run if you'd like. Feel free to also just run around and take your girls on a fun trip across the world every now and then, it's pretty comfy to be honest.
Either way welcome to the waiting club, enjoy your stay!
also I'm starting to realize in comparison to all the other cafes that I may be going overboard on the one I've been making, but I'll treat My Wife to that fancy restaurant someday dangit!

>>552948556
>>552948556
>also I'm starting to realize in comparison to all the other cafes that I may be going overboard on the one I've been making, but I'll treat My Wife to that fancy restaurant someday dangit!
NTA, but in your cafe you should add anons and their wives

>>552940032
>>552944714
Yeah, there's only so much stuff to talk about until a new Shrift or Three Charms game comes out. The only things people would still feel the need to talk about are the things they hate enough to still think about.

>>552949151
I was actually planning to do that once I got farther along with actually understanding how to make a mod. Since I figured it would be easier to do that once I was able to start trying to actually put these maps into Paradox, rather than porting over all the different character files into a sandbox. I don't think it'd be too difficult to pull off at least. I'll still leave some empty tables around though so they can be sat down at if one feels like it.

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>>552780746
Harpies make everything a little less bleak and a little more beak!

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>>552731420
Sex with perfect goddesses.

>>552912404
Women are incorrigible status-chasers, that's why a prince has to lower himself and get a girl below his status while the woman only marries some impossible hero whose status is supposedly higher than a royals.

>>552899125
>>552899712
>>552912404
I'd save the spoiled and haughty ohohojou-sama princess...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otZP_AFTN8E

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>>552954193
straight up!

>>552954750
>Ojou Sama centaur
I kneel and want to impregnate

If the truth is mean, then lies must be kind. And so, kindness is a lie..

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do you think other places have their own equivalents of Monster Girl Marathons? Human competition is much more even, I feel like some of them have so many advantages that it starts to feel like cheating.
Fun to watch though.

>>552954193
Aesthetically would a harpy raven or crow be a goth harpy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dECE7285GxU
Ant Civilization

>>552887432
Remember to punish foxes for seducing you by impregnating them over and over again.

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>>552964071
>Ant Civilization (DESTROYED)
What did those poor ants do to you!?

>>552970948
not be taller than me

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>>552964071
>>552970948
nyo...

>>552969117
Tofu smelling paws typed this

>Still waiting for a Sony paizuri scene
I feel like she'd be surprisingly good at it.

>>552969117
K
https://ws-cdn-video.rule34.xxx//images/1456/3d1627437e1fff49d10382db255524cc.mp4?12544617

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>>552970948
>>552971737
Ants are a menace

>>552978443
That's an alien

>>552540760
Shame, thanks for the effort

>>552899125
Better is you don't fully ignore the princess, after you've lain withe the dragon and the evil witch you have them hold the princess down while you lay with her

>>552978443
i actually hate woman and thank god everyday for giving me a bro that i can't related to or have anything in common with.....

>>552982430
>inserting your penis inside a human girl
ew

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>>552979609
That's not a very nice thing to say to your little sister, anon.

>>552982803
You should have just won the coinflip and gotten a cute little sister instead.
Although to be fair, not being able to relate to your brother has nothing to do with gender, even if a sister would be more fun to look at.

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>>552984451
I will have sex with human women in monster girl games and there's nothing you can do to stop me

>>552986714
>She hotter than 95% of the monster girls
Impressive actually.
When i get the debuff when you have too much virinity i always go to her to remove said debuff

>>552969117
>>552971737
Ants have this strange behavior that they leave their "cities" after some years have passed to set up shop somewhere else and scientists are baffled by this behavior, funny thing is that in that vid there is a 99.9999% that no ant was living there

>>552987862
Are you blind?
You can literally see ants running around as they pour the concrete.

>>552948325
>>552987313
Does anyone here know if it is?

>>552988754
What are you asking anon?

>>552988629
muh 6 billion antgirls

>>552989172
About the game in the OP, how it is. It has naked blue girls but if it's murderwhore or something really fucked up I'm worried.

>>552989724
From what I can find out about it, it has QTEs and monsters that want to drain you? But I don't see anything about snuff in the DL tags but who knows

>>552989905
Awesome! Blue girls added to my backlog.
Unfortunately the backlog is colossal and I got exams in less than 2 weeks.

>>552989172
It looks like a mtl was just posted on f95 a few hours ago, you could check it out yourself if you want.

>>552964071
I always find the idea of ant girls kind of fascinating, just because of how many there can be. Of course, none of the settings really take into account just what a massive population of human sized ants could do.
MGQ says there are 25k ant girls in its world, but where the hell where these girls prior to getting enslaved? They would utterly deplete any resource in the area since we have shown to scavenge for resources as a means of survival, before becoming citizens of Grangold.

>>552986714
catfish effect. a good competitor makes other species try and compete harder ergo human women become more based in monstergirl settings.

>>552990908
Truth. I love my darling human party members.

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I fucking hate the armored nigserker so much

>>552990645
If you think about it, now that Grangold has 25k super strong ant girls that gladly work for their favorite dessert snack(water and sugar), they should also be outproducing every other nation combined. Add in their automatons, and Grangold pretty much controls the world economy by sheer manufacturing capacity alone.

>>552982803
>I actually hate women
Faggot detected

you're not bad enough to do a battle fuckers-only run

>>552993008
They are shit, no doubt about it.
But it's not really their sub standard traits that fuck them, since they are pretty in line with those of Part 1's monsters. It's being stuck with a group of nothing, but a humans until you get Worm Summoner race, or Prom's Vampire change formula.

>>552993008
I'd do it if they talked outside battle.

>>552984608
>>552978443
This image is funny to me in light of the studied fact that a large percentage of ants are slackers who don't do any (or only a minimum of) work.

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>the best monster girls are always human girls monsterized
A tale as old as time

>>552997657
>monsterized
Looks like a regular human to me

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>>552993008
Suddenly becomes your most important party member.

The 'muh human girls' fag isn't as interesting a poster as he thinks he is.

>>552998118
She will get one shotted by Morrigan because of those absolutely awful status resistances. It's really getting to San Ilias that is a huge problem with these, only something, challenge runs.

>>552997987
Do regular humans have a spine like that lacking most of the belly organs?

>>553000006
I'm not talking about that clanker, clearly I was referring to the lady in that sword

>>552997657
I don't know, these types of games tend to have the former human woman, go absolutely insane after being turned into a monster, at least for the short term.
Especially if they get turned into something like a Succubus or Vampire.

>>552999356
Bruh Humans especially prior to the Lily unlocks are just Worse Elves.
Assuming it was a vanilla no-unlock run, she'd be the best BF due to being the ONLY BF who can get a different pool of racial skills for your gameplay.

In your Morrigan example, both Elves and Humans lose to the Pleasure. But this Elf could shrug off the Wind attacks at least.

>>553002456
Not saying she isn't the best BF until the race change option, just saying that the best is still looking at a slog in the Morrigan fight.

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>>553003717
Damn right he's taken.

>>553006732
you can't fuck your son

Actually, even an elliptical closed universe like your own is old-fashioned. Your universe has been net negative for some time, but it was an interesting experiment and old Pleiades has enough success to his name that it has been kept around, so long as he pays the difference out of the proceeds of his other projects.

>>552891282
>new year's goals:
>mermaid backshots
>harpy footjobs
>shikibus breeding
>missionary with the monster lord

>>552993008
I'm already in the middle of something close to that. I could probably do a full BF-only run.

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>>553006975
I don't think any of these winged Habsburgs cares about sex with Luka being incest.

>>553002456
Humans don't have weakness in any elemental/status, but they also have no strong resistances either. Marie actually is resistant to pleasure attacks, so she would also be able to tank a few of Morrigan's attacks as well.

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Had a vivid dream with many parts to it last night, but one of them I had to open up a note doc for and write down what happened to make sure I didn't forget any of it because it involved one of the ideas I had with Okyuu but it went in an unexpected direction that I found much funnier than my original plan to the point I'm going to use it instead and I'm assuming this happened entirely due to the conversation about the 7H Collab yesterday.

To put it briefly after Ilias tries (and fails) to rob her, Luka and Sonya derail any potential battle from happening by explaining it was only Ilias who was trying to steal from her, and Okyuu immediately de-escalates the situation and apologizes for jumping to conclusions, and laughs off Luka trying to apologize himself with "Aaah it's fine it's fine, fuhgeddaboudit! No hard feelin's, haha!".
Then Ilias starts laughing with her and instantly gets grabbed and yelled at for thinking she's "off the hook" and now Okyuu finally has the chance to do something she's always wanted to do to "cheatin' skeeves like you". Which is pulling out some books and preparing a classroom so she can teach her some of the basics of economics and business in the hopes that it'll make her a better person.
Ilias's only response is to start screaming hysterically and begging Luka to save her. Luka refuses, because he actually thinks the class sounds fun and then gets defensive about it with Sonya asks how he thinks math is fun, so he ends up joining her. Ilias starts trying to use her "Luka, oh brave Luka, can you hear my voice" to get Luka to give her all the answers but Luka just says he'll help her but he won't do it for her.
Luka then learned a new ability that gave him massive bonuses to mercantile skills while Ilias learned nothing because she kept zoning out.
I'm definitely doing it this way now. This feels much more in-character for everyone and a lot more like how trtr would've done it.
Also made an Alice version to keep the balance.

>>552991275
what'd chadserker do to you?

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>>553022329
there's no fucking way I can kill 2 at a time, this is BULLSHIT

>>552987215
>Impressive actually.
I mean, her design is the stereotypical anime exotic dancer, so that says more about the monster girls than her.

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>>553024045
>Oh Mini of the Pot, what is your wisdom?
>To defeat many enemies, use many attacks!
>Like fire breath! Fwaaaaaaah!

>>553024045
Stop trying to fight enemies like in OG trilogy or part 2 and simply stack strength to the max + barriers, you will one shot almost everything. Yes, it will make things trivial, but you will be spared unnecessary headache. Acceptance will set you free.