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>Falcom Games
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>Pastebin (aka music)
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>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)
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>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translations
https://nyaa.si/user/Ganba
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https://nyaa.si/view/1749617
>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2
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>Kai MTL patch
https://files.catbox.moe/ygv0l2.7z

UPDATED: 12/20
>Trails Beyond The Horizon Demo is out:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3316940/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_beyond_the_Horizon/
>Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter is confirmed 2026.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4225980/Trails_in_the_Sky_2nd_Chapter/
>Falcom's Shareholders Meetings 2025 Q&A thread
https://x.com/michsuzu/status/2001538421702168955#m
>Ys X Proud releasing on February 20th for Switch 2, PC, and also PS5
https://noisypixel.net/ys-x-proud-nordics-western-release-date/
>Trailer Ys X Proud
https://youtu.be/tB9S4XAj8pM?si=s5l3guOaM1WWkFEK
>Edia to port PC-Engine Ys, Dragon Slayer and The Legend of Xanadu games to modern platforms
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/09/edia-to-port-pc-engine-ys-dragon-slayer-the-legend-of-heroes-and-the-legend-of-xanadu-games-to-modern-platforms
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For me, it's Towa.
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>>553480978
sex
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Chado Banningsu!
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What do we think about Renne?
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imagine the demonic sex
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>>553481283
Annoying character that isnt even hot anymore.
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Five (5) (V) (Go) (五) (ご) cute facts about Towacutest!:

1. She is canonically atowable!
2. She is mai Kiseki-fu!!
3. I love her!!!
4. Towacutest!!!!
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>>553481791
5. Her big butt can fart real loud!!!!!
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>>553481883
YOUR big butt can fart real loud!!!!!
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>>553481791
5. She is an immigration NGO girl!!!!!
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>>553482039
YOU'RE an immigration NGO girl!!!!!
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>>553482229
You wish!
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>>553478202
funnily enough, by doing that, they ruined the momentum that the franchise was gaining in the west at that time.
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>>553483025
Turns out not to have mattered. The west caught up because of the three year gap.
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>>553481568
I like her cs4 version and her fat tits version
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Does kai have any new mini games
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Recently started playing Kuro 2, when is this supposed to get bad exactly
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>>553485774
from the start if you have standards
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Anons that played Kai/Horizon, I know that with Kevin and Rean you already have all party members available but what about with Van? Do I have all available or is it fractured like in Daybreak 2? Also I imagine all possible groups and playable characters will ONLY be available in the last chapter?
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>>553485925
Never if you have standards
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>>553485774
as a kiseki apologist, I think act 3 is the moment you may realize this probably wont be the best kiseki game ever made. I think if you just calibrate your expectations lower, its still fine. It has a fairly strong finish in the epilogue
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Kai 2 will be Their Game and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>553486103
No, Van's party kinda varies a little bit. certain memeber(s) go in and out.
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>>553480840
vote
https://strawpoll.com/NMnQN1Bldg6
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Can we get an F in the chat for bro's wallet
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>>553484770
Nah but you can look forward to doing another 50 4SPGs as Van's group
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>>553480840
Tio ToT
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>>553480978
judith is a whore
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>>553484770
No. They did bring back tailing though haha....
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Trails of Subhumans
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I loved this franchise but CS3 was so bad that I dropped it after the dark dragon stuff. Did it get any better since?
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>>553488742
you were like moments away from the best part of that game, I've never heard anyone complain that the dark dragon filtered them
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Does anyone have any Reana's lora? Or are you just generating Rean but with female elements?
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>>553488742
One route of Hajimari is good, Kuro 1 is good. Rest not so much. Still think CS2 is the worst in the franchise though
>>553489342
CS3 was my favorite of the Cold Steel games and I remember thinking the dark dragon was the worst part of it too
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>>553489380
I can't recall if AI anon was specifically using a modifier to Rean only or if there was some specific lora it drew from that was derived from an initial set. I think it might be the latter, given that anon could generate a lot of modified stuff on top of the base (long vs short hair, cosplay, loli versions).
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>>553490334
I feel like this is what Reanafemanon actually looks like haha
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>>553490089
Why is Marielle peeking
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>>553484398
I was referring more to the fact that the franchise was gaining some popularity and that gap did some damage to it. And all this so that almost no one would buy Zero/Ao because everyone had already played with the patches.
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>>553489380
You can probably check from some of the generated images
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>>553489342
CS3 felt repetitive and I felt like I was playing it out of obligation and my lust for Musse than actually liking the game. I wound up just looking up the ending.
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https://youtu.be/6Mk0yil3Y9s
Nope, they don't make em like they used to...
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Where is Reanasis anyway?
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>>553492183
quintessential falkino
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>>553488742
No. Things are so bad Japan turned on the series and now we're just getting remakes.
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>>553492412
Nadia butt
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>>553489380
>>553490334
You don't need a lora, but you can use the other class VII girls at low strength to get the outfit right
>1girl, (rean schwarzer:1.2), genderswap \(mtf\), black hair, long hair, purple eyes, medium breasts, red school uniform, red jacket, green miniskirt, thighhighs, ribbon, thors military academy class vii uniform, <lora:EmmaMillsteinCS1_Illustrious:0.7>, <lora:FieClaussellCS1_Illustrious:0.7>,
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>>553493064
delete this
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>>553490805
she can feel Bingo judging her
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>>553493064
This is still more respectful to Kevin than Kai was.
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>>553493064
O-our heroine...?
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the Calvard visuals grew on me desu I hope the next arc doesn't change it again I'm getting old now and struggling with change
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>>553495330
If the next arc doesnt use the visuals of the sky remake then its DoA. Unless they only use those for the remakes then I could maybe accept it
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>>553495990
but those lack an identity it's just Genshin :/
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>>553493064
Interesting, nta but thanks
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>>553496631
Its just very colourful which this series has always been THOUGH
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>>553493064
Kevin would do this
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nadia rizz
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>>553496852
>Its just very colourful which this series has always been
Not really, since the beginning the series didn't really care for being extra colorful.
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>>553497503
Its not really a big change. Just a different aesthetic.
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>>553496852
???????
bose is mega dreary
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>>553486896
what is this the reddit awards?
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>>553493064
la kevina
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>>553497628
Kiseki had a relatively consistent aesthetic that even carried over from the chibi era to later games aside from the obvious technology changes. First torpedoed this.
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>>553498710
>consistent aesthetic
Which is?
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>>553498817
Kiseki has always valued a less colorful aesthetic that instead of trying to make everything as sunny as possible kept to more natural lighting with areas that feel more lived in than the remakes that keep everything too clean.
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>>553499687
That's blatantly wrong. CS1 alone is plenty colorful. Shit have you played either Crossbell game?
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>>553499687
>less colorful aesthetic
Thats not true at all. Azure, CS1 for example are super colourful. There is no consistency. From arc to arc.
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>>553499687
Sky remake looks exactly like the original.
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>>553500069
>>553500195
Neither are very colorful. CS1 definitely isn't.
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>>553500967
They are. Sky 1st is just way more colourful and it'll hopefully be the standard going forward. Same with the artwork.
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>dumb idiot REFUTES 300 IQ genius with FEELINGS
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COOM good
Trails needs a Ryza-like MC
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the sky 1st hundred acre wood aesthetic was pretty shitty desu
I would rather look at it than some turd like slop 33 still but the current main series look is a lot more preferable
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>>553500195
Not to mention there is no unified aesthetic in ANY of the games prior to Sky 1st. It's just more noticeable in the full 3D games. You can have a clash of 4 different art styles in any scene in Daybreak, where the art style of the environments differ from the style of the characters, that differ from the style of the enemies. A lot of the realistic environment textures past CS2 look like stock photography.
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Towalie!
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>>553503592
Generally my only nitpick with daybreak aesthetic is there is uneven effort between scenes (outdoor urban, outdoor nature, indoors). Obviously the most effort went into outdoor urban areas. The engine still struggles to do foilage convincingly, while indoors are a mixed bag (ie. DB2 Aramis high looks beautiful outdoors and just meh indoors)
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>>553504291
I don't usually like slop but that is actually super cute.
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>>553504578
>Towa
>cute
lol
lmao
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>>553504672
you talkin shit bout muh wife towa bro?
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>>553505121
if after 13 games full of cute women you willingly pick Towa you legally should lose half your rights and live out the rest of your life as less than a dog
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Towa? More like Lowa
cause she's always ranking low lol get it
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>>553505563
You misunderstand.
I did not choose Towa.
Towa chose me.
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>>553506497
nigga please I'm 30 I don't fuck with this childish typa talk
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>>553505563
wrong
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>>553506887
bark dog
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>>553504291
>Towalie
Dude.
I am so fucking cute right now, I have no idea what's going on.
You wanna get cute?
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>To-wifey
What does the Zoomer know that we don't?
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which kiseki deserves gts art
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Is it worth playing Chapter 5 with all possible parties? I did Ikaruga and then the very start of Heiyue, but the Heiyue joining scene was at least 95% identical to the scene where I fought them as Ikaruga.
Also why the fuck does the dub go
>Ika RU ga
instead of
>iKA ru ga
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>>553507912
I dont think so. Ikaruga is generally the best choice mechanically and in terms of the story.
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>>553507259
Womanlet hapa teacher with a nice butt and small chest, hardworking and sweet but with the smallest hint of a naughty side, and a tendency to wear tight outfits.
Basically, she's just like Reanasis.
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Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
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>>553508421
>smallest hint of a naughty side
>just like Reanasis
You have a number of assumptions you are making.
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die joshua
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>>553503348
>It seems to be from Rean's perspective. Lets all become Rean
Fixed that for Hitomi
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>>553510054
this ages better after DB2 where the cast was desperately clinging to divine redo magic to get foresight to solve the problem
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>>553510932
no... don't bring nuance into our chorus of rage...
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>>553509425
Towa would send us drunken nudes
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>>553511537
lol I don't think so
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Can't believe Lloyd fucked both the Seeker sisters at the same time...
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>hey you know those rare medical ingredients the church has that are now impossible to come by
>we need them for a cooking competition
>OHHHHH WELL WE ONLY HAVE A FEW LEFT BUT HERE TAKE AS MANY AS YOU NEED
Falcom...
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>>553508147
Thanks man. A big fear of mine for this game was people saying Rixia suffered from character assassination so I wanted to make sure I did not miss anything regarding her and from what I understood, all Cao does is bring her into Calvard. She says she doesn't belong to Heiyue and came to protect her country cuz ROIDO inspired her, more or less.
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>>553513524
At no point is it even implied they are rare nor impossible to come by, just that the provider hasn't been able to deliver them steadily due to a disruption

I swear you people just see funny glyphs and make up your own interpretation of the script
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>>553513913
Making it completely retarded to give away medicinal supplies for the purposes of a cooking competition. I swear you get upset about everything.
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>>553513913
>we've got a disruption in the supply of medical herb
>but sure have as much as you want for a fucking cooking competition
You're taking the piss right?
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>>553513913
Are you the guy who got upset about people mocking no one dying in the Fort Juno explosion? Haha...
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>>553514158
It's been a long time, how does the Jingo side story explain why nobody died in that?
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>>553514046
>>553514125
My condolences that you grew up in a cynical impoverished derelict town full of criminals that have to guard their limited resources and kill each other over crumbs of bread and straw for their roofs during winter so you have no time to practice civility, empathy and helping your community
>>553514158
no but it's logical that Elysium wouldn't want to draw actual blood on its warning shot to the world
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>>553514435
Do I need to explain why healing people is a more important use of an herb than a cooking competition?
Of course nobody is going to die because of his decision, but someone could well have.
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>>553514435
>we have a few of these medical supplies left
>i hear they're hard to get hold off
>but you can have our entire storage for your cooking competition
Bruh really does get upset about bad Falcom writing, lmao. Does it pain you that wrongthink and mockery exists in this world?
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Can't sleep, posting Estelle
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>>553514656
>>553514745
>few != couple
At no point did he even suggests they are low on resources omg READ and stop making up your own doom scenarios why would a CHURCH only have a handful of them???
Plus he doesn't give Van his entire reserve lol holy shit you two are a pair of clowns
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>>553514754
wouldn't it be funny if renne sucked her tit when estelle falls asleep haha
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>>553514936
>we have a few medical supplies left but you can have as many as you need for your cooking competition
You're the biggest fandrone I've ever encountered, holy kek.
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>>553513524
Outsourcebros... not like this.
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shhh
it's nap time
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My favorite quest where a white guy with a moustache is the bad guy out of nowhere has to be Act 2 Side A with Heiyue
>Some girl Aaron used to know is spreading false rumours about him beating his girlfriends and stuff
>She's doing it because a loan shark working for the Lai family is forcing her
>She's in debt because she lost it gambling against two white guys (who are implied to have cheated)
>party cheats to tell them who the loan shark is
>it's a fucking white guy with a moustache
>She denies that she's doing it because she has to, but they ignore her and Aaron pulls out half a million mira out of his ass to settle the debt anyway
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>>553514656
Hey fuck you, I'm going to use MY Jade Dragon's Eye however I goddamn please.
Including giving it for free to this Van nigga.
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>>553515075
It's the church, they procure them periodically and have a few they can afford to give out for an important community event
Once again, my condolences that all of this is foreign to you it must suck growing up in a resource poor city full of strife and agony
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>>553515554
This is made more hilarious by the fact that there's at present no way to acquire more supplies, and head chingchongchang has been poisoned and another nigger in the cooking competition is using dangerous ingredients. Falcom writing is utter dogshit, man.
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>>553514754
>>553515154
>>553515401
lets have a sleepover /fg/
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>>553515745
What's more hilarious is you're actively playing the game and your brain is desperately trying to find made-up things to criticise lol
what a sad utter dogshit existence man
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Why does Kuro and only Kuro have quests that are outright batshit insane on a moral level, like supporting and covering up the attempted murder of a woman who tried to murder a man because he slept with her and didn't call back?
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>>553515943
Nope. I point out bad writing as I see it, and the biggest Falcom fanboy in the universe has panic attacks when presented with wrongthink. This is why there's such a fucking legion of Cold Shit fans. They all justify they atrocious writing like you do.
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>>553515978
Kuro is so hecking mature and nuanced, bro! CHAOS!
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>>553516019
>Nope. I [delusions] and [headcanon]. This is why [unhinged ramblings].
FTFY, enjoy playing a game you are predisposed to hate, sounds like you lead a very fulfilling and excited life LOL
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Anyone feel bad for Estelle? Like, she struggled with the concept of an elevator and now lives in a world where people shoot satelitte holograms and """shards""" at each other.
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>>553516223
>main story
>someone's been poisoned
>side story
>npc's been selling food made with addictive, hazardous ingredients
>the curch: hey you can have as many of our dwindling medical supplies as you need for your cooking competition since the supply chain's been disrupted, making it impossible to acquire more
Lol, you're a colossal fandrone. No wonder you get so mad.
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>>553515978
you what
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>>553516235
Not really her life is a lot better than mine.
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>>553516282
Yeah that's a real quest in Daybreak 2
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haha...
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>>553516278
>>the curch: hey you can have as many of our dwindling medical supplies as you need for your cooking competition since the supply chain's been disrupted, making it impossible to acquire more
You're such a sad sack of shit actively putting words in the game that it never used
Enjoy being outraged over situations you create in your own demented mind
What a pathetic life you lead
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>>553515978
>>553516282
The text is unclear, the woman tries to murder a man because he ghosted her and Van sides with the woman and covers up the crime, the options are how about to screw him (Van's own client) over, not punish her
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>>553515978
my favorite sidequest in 2 was the calvard glowie triple agent who went on the run but collapsed in a sewer because he was passing a kidney stone
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>>553516235
She can figure out new tech better than most anons here
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>>553516641
You're the one who's outraged due to Kiseki wrongthink. I'm mocking bad writing. I've provided context for your mangled brain to comprehend why it's so hilariously bad. Feel free to play the game again or take another look at the screenshot.

You getting this upset about the most innocuous shit is why this general is so fun to post in.
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>>553515978
>Van only picks requests if they are not malicious
>cute stabby girl
>helps her escape from cops
People tend to be sympathetic towards girls more, in anime or real life.
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>>553517003
The quest was by the guy. He didn't know that his stalker was the girl he ghosted.
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>AIEEEEEEEE DON'T MAKE FUN OF KUSO 2
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>>553516982
Why don't you alt tab and fuck off back to playing the game you hate? Loser
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>>553517161
What makes you think I hate it? Are you that insecure?
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>>553517053
No, I know what you are referring to. I'm using the stabby girl as a worse example.
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>>553516683
Kidney stones are no joke anon
I had one once. Woke up with a sharp pain in the abdomen, tries to piss. It hurt like the absolute dickens. I pissed blood because of the internal injury it was causing.
By the time I got to hospital I was literally writhing in pain to the point I was half-bouncing off of the bed. They gave me a suppository painkiller and sent me off to a bathroom to apply it, because regular ones just weren't strong enough.
Got a full packet of them after being discharged and was pissing in a bucket so I could examine it until the happy day I found the shattered pieces.
And that was your TMI for the day
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If you don't stop making fun of Gaybreak 2 I'm gonna lose it. Final warning.
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I'm at Act III Route D in Daybreak II and I could confirm that this entire act is a massive waste of time and should have been cut out of the game.
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>>553517230
The fact that you had to hurry here to post your epic screenshot showing you are illiterate in an attempt to mock a video game
Go back to spending your limited time on this world on a series you hate and feel the overwhelming need to be a major cynical snob and dance the tune of le enlightened critic to a crowd of 5 mentally ill regulars I'm sure you'll achieve a lot in your life

Final reply, FUCK YOU
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>>553517295
I had one stuck in the gooch area and fucked my GF to completion, and after I shot the first rope, the kidney stone traveled up got stuck in the urethra at the tip of my dick. Not even joking. Had to push it out into the toilet. Haha...
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>>553517497
Except I've posted at least 10 non-triggering screenshots of the game, retard. kek, you're pathetic. So easy to upset. So defensive about every little thing. Here to justify and explain why bad writing isn't bad.
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Falcombros... stop drinking so much soda and have more water haha...
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>>553517670
But I haven't had a soda in years.
What happened?
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>>553517465
Sex
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>>553517670
I'm predisposed to kidney stones due to a medical condition. I've had one per year for like a decade. My pain tolerance is far above average and I just find them annoying.
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>>553517465
I've never laughed harder playing a kiseki game than act 3 so it wasn't all bad
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>>553517670
Fuck water. Bring me wine!
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>>553517860
damn you get more kidney stones than calvard games lol
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Kai 2 should have a tar and feather scene with judith haha
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>>553503348
>Trails needs a Ryza-like MC
If the main series is to survive then yea they need to do that. Hire someone who can draw hot thick waifus and lolis too.
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Trails doesn't need anything, it's good where it is and doing what it is doing
If you don't like it you can leave, it's not for you
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>>553518804
Everything after Sky needs to be retconned for ruining character designs and visual appeal in general.
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>>553519495
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>>553519803
yet still ended the year on a positive profit lol outdated bitchass
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>Kai almost killed Kiseki
>Sky 1st saved it
KEK
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>>553519685
They should have given Liberl and Crossbell aesthetics that are based in real nations. Like how Erebonia is Imperial Germany. Heavily lean into that so everything can easily stand out. The designs should reflect this.
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>>553519895
proof?
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>>553519890
Yeah, because of a remake. You know. The game Trails is no longer like. So things have to change back to how they were, not stay in the shitter.
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>>553519942
Also Calvard should have been based on Greece or something.
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>>553520127
proof?
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HaaaaAAAAaaaa I just really, really want to rape Renne...
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Do we even know if Crossbell has any sports to play?
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>>553520241
>down 86% in the kai window
>up 3% in the 1st window
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>>553520307
Competitive Tio raping
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>>553520342
post hard numbers, not your opinion
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>>553520307
Small indie country, please understand.
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>>553520498
Skybros don't operate within the bounds of reality so they can't manifest their esoteric delusions into the real world
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>>553520498
Falcom announced both these things.
>87.6% decrease in net profit after kai
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/trails-developer-nihon-falcom-sees-sharp-drop-in-half-year-revenue-but-maintains-positive-annual-forecast/
>8.1% increase in net profit after sky 1st
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/trails-developer-nihon-falcom-to-shift-focus-on-increasing-number-of-released-titles-per-year-and-publishing-more-switch-2-ports-six-unannounced-titles-currently-in-development/
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>>553520757
The Day....is Over....
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>>553520497
They use KeA sometimes too when Tio is too broken
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>>553520757
>>87.6% decrease in net profit
>https://automaton-media.com/en/news/trails-developer-nihon-falcom-sees-sharp-drop-in-half-year-revenue-but-maintains-positive-annual-forecast/
>>8.1% increase in net profit
>https://automaton-media.com/en/news/trails-developer-nihon-falcom-to-shift-focus-on-increasing-number-of-released-titles-per-year-and-publishing-more-switch-2-ports-six-unannounced-titles-currently-in-development/
FTFY!
No one asked for your clearly biased reading of data
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>>553520878
Mental illness: the post
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>>553520878
Stay off the Gnosis buddy
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>>553520936
>>553520986
Hit a nerve?
Either way Falcom made a profit by staying Falcom instead of introducing your retarded ideas so my original post stands sovereign to your floundering inconsistencies
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>>553521075
Correct, Sky 1st managed to turn a profit for Falcom despite Kai's near-ruinous failure that resulted in an 87.6% decrease in net profit.
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>Hit a nerve?
>Either way Falcom made a profit by staying Falcom instead of introducing your retarded ideas so my original post stands sovereign to your floundering inconsistencies
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Sky 1st is the re-engoodening of Falcom.
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>They should have given Liberl and Crossbell aesthetics that are based in real nations. Like how Erebonia
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>>553521413
Its a good idea THOUGH. Makes everything more unique. And not just generic Western/European look. Or do you not want Liberl to look like Thailand....
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>>553521160
>>553521189
>>553521256
not your series, feel free to move on to some other franchsie
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Wait, doesn't that mean that sky 1st still made less than the average Trails game, if the increase was by 8% in the same year as Kai? Even assuming something absurd like "Kai only made 10% of a regular Trails game" that still puts Sky 1st at slightly less than the average trails release
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>>553521642
don't fucking point that out
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>not your series, feel free to move on to some other franchsie
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>>553520282
God she is so fucking hot
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>>553521642
It wasn't 8% it was 95%, you have to add the kai deficit.
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>gaolang, the foreskin fighter
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>>553521809
mathlet...
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You guys are worse at math than actual elementary schoolers lol.
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I'll show you what two cocks plus one vagina equals you smug cunt
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You won't.
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>>553521642
Nobody was interested in Sky after E33
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>>553521642
uhhhhhh it gets the southeast asia bonus so no it did much much better
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>>553523884
I still find it funny how my favorite yakuza streamer got kind of passive aggressive when everyone passed over trails for metaphor especially because it had a similar battle system to modern trails
trails joined persona and smt in being salty as fuck in 2024 and those voices easily drowned out trails voices but still
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>>553522548
>>553523401
Shut the fuck up you WOMAN
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Kai is the final fan ESL MTL. We're getting official ESL MTL now.
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>>553523894
Total profit includes SE Asia?
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>>553524412
Anies deserves this
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>>553521642
what makes it look even worse is that sky had the worldwide release handicap. You'd think the difference would be huge when it came out day and date in the market that's supposedly keeping the franchise alive
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>>553524521
Anus.
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>no no you see it failed okay don't listen to falcom IT FAILED
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>>553524670
Do you not realize how unimpressive a small increase in total profit is when you release twice the number of games from the previous year?
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And which ones actually made enough profits for Falcom to note them specifically?
It wasn't Sky vs Ys kek.
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>more people coming back for Kai ENG release
>Skykeks getting uppity because apparently fucking no one cared about Sky 1st
kek
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Vankid. .. less people were playing the Kai demo at its peak than the SKY demo CURRENTLY kek.
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>>553524946
Gaybreak 3 won't have a fourth of Sky 1st's player count and barely broke 1k when it was released in Gookland.
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>>553525281
>barely Gaybroke 1k
FIXED
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I knew it, you're going mask off again Vankid. You hate that Sky 2nd takes priority over Kai2.
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lloyd...
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>>553524946
I'll play sky 1st after kai like kondo intended
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Stop this, WOMAN
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Get this y/u/ritard shit out of my /fg/. You roaches have already infested enough places
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>>553526976
Woke series. Woke general. Cope.
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>hakuleg
gay
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>>553526976
>my /fg/
Hey buddy this is MY /fg/ and I use it the way I always have: to make sure everyone knows Lavicute is best girl. I just tolerate the rest of you, even if your opinions are wrong, like with that anon that thinks Elise is best girl.
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>>553526976
Kill yourself niggerfucker
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Yuri is the straightest thing in the world.
Saying you hate yuri is essentially saying "god DAMN I love looking at dudes while I fap."
Yuri is the purest form of love and will conquer the Earth.
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>>553527710
Snekstelle anon...
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wrong, yuri porn is boring and slow
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>>553524946
>more people coming back for Kai ENG release
What's this level of delusion called?
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>all it took to derail the shitposting was Reanasis spamming Kiseki yuri
kek
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>>553528374
I would pay good money to see them fuck tbqh with you family member
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>>553528562
Rajesh...
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>>553528627
we don't sign our posts here, bud
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>>553528892
Man... I miss Alfinsis and Eliseanon.
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>>553528991
Me too....they hate yuri too.....
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>>553530726
They hate it because they are too straight.
Are you a straight woman, anon?
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>>553527837
Renne's Harem!
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>>553531137
No I am a man.
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Ban-san...
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hot DAMN
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Just thinking about all those we lost in the Great War...
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>>553533361
These are the optimum size for Rixia's breasts.
Any larger is too large.
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Kek. redditrannies are having a civil war over play order.
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>>553533361
HOT DAMN
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>>553533442
You can bait them into it by pretending to be new. They'll drop everything they're doing to passionately tell you how to play the series, thinking they've successfully recruiting someone into the cult.
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Optimal Trails play order:
Sky FC
Sky SC
done
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>>553533545
This but ending at Ao instead.
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>>553533442
redditors will do anything to gain approval for not playing the games
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>>553533505
Ilya is probably wild in bed
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>>553533545
>>553533607
>>553533520
I started with CS1 and 2 when they first released in English.
As soon as I finished them I immediately went back and played all the 5 games before it. This was back when we Zero and Azure were not on steam, and required all those downloads.
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I played FC ages ago (don't think SC was out in English) then played CS a few years later. I didn't make the connection until after I'd finished it. I find it kind of funny that I was approaching both FC and CS1 with the perspective that they were the first games in the series I was playing.
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Horizon is the best place to start.
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>>553534525
>I didn't make the connection until after I'd finished it.
Most intelligent Kiseki fan.
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I started with CS3 like NISA told me I could.
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>>553533607
Oh so like /fg/
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>5 years of gaybreak
holy
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>>553535690
>7 years of cold shit
>5 years of gaybreak
haha... no wonder this series has been hemorraging fans
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>>553535690
That's the wrong way to think about it anon. It's 20 years of kiseki.
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astounding observation randy
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lol NISA is in a war with the anti localizers its too good better plot than kai.

https://imgur.com/a/8rIEFqV
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Okay.
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>>553537086
total localizer death
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Not only should English subtitles not be localized, but they should also contain honorifics.
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>>553536378
Truly, the SSS are the sharpest detectives in Zemuria.
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Honestly I think cold steel had better antagonists and a better story than crossbell. I think Osborne and his clowns are more built up and interesting than grimwood and mariabelle. Reverie did wonders for the cs arc.
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>>553514158
Are you the guy who doesn’t know how to read the dialogue and get a hissy fit when the plot doesn’t turn into a blood bath for your school shooter brain
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>>553537086
Yea this is kinda unprofessional. I guess the whole twitter thing with rizz actually offended the localizer
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>>553531805
Not a straight one.
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>>553538492
>inadvertently confirms he's mald-kun
Haha...
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>>553538826
>responds because he got offended that I called him out on his habits and shit media literacy
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>>553538960
>no u
Nice self-awareness, mald-kun...
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>>553537086
lol NISA making Kai their own playground and story
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Why are Skytroons the most salty fans in the fandom? Is it because they can’t get over their sunk cost so they are playing the new games even though they are miserable?

Or is it because they secretly love them and want to pretend they hate them because they want to be in the “old games are amazing and better” club of the fandom?
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>>553539150
Why are you creating fictional narratives and groups of people to get upset about?
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>>553539150
Every fandom has those types of people even fire emblem. But they actually didnt buy engage. New is bad old is better has been a thing for a long time
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>>553538350
He might be a marginally better villain, but like almost all Kiseki villains, he is still a meh one and Crossbell's story is just more interesting and better told than Cold Steel's, villains and all.
And I kinda got tired of Reverie pushing the "Osborne was a good boi, he dindu nothing" angle.
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>>553539284
I can see your point but it’s only really lechter or Rean that says Osborne is good. They still understand that Osborne had to destroy many lives to fuel the fortress for the rivalries. Osborne manipulating Cedric was actually pretty scummy in my eyes. Nothing compared to weissman but nice nonetheless. Reverie did a good job to explain the stuff cs4 did

Plus crois is a good antag I’m not denying it. But mariabelles while being nice after everything that happened with kea and the lack of good dialogue between her and Ellie just rubbed me the wrong way.
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>>553539545
>But mariabelles while being nice after everything that happened with kea and the lack of good dialogue between her and Ellie just rubbed me the wrong way.
>"Uggghgh Bell, you are the worst".
Really Elie? That's the best you can do for the person who mentally tortured Kea?
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Dieter had all the right setup to be an amazing antagonist, but they really fucked him up in Azure.
He goes from being sympathetic to going MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA ALL SHALL BOW BEFORE MY EVIL PLAN HAHAHA.
He had the perfect opportunity to be a 10/10 villain by chastising Sigmund for the shit that Shirley pulled by dropping the chandelier on Ilya, when it was already said that they were supposed to *scare people* not actually kill them (or nearly kill them, btu that's besides the point)
But he doesn't do that because he's in full MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA mode
And of course the second thing is when he gets betrayed and the finale is about Mariabell and Ian
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nu-falcom would redeem him
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Oh, you're back. Been a while.
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>>553540431
if they made 3rd now joshua would constantly be talking about what a cool guy weissman was
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If they made 3rd now Loewe would've gotten fully revived
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wrong
all of you
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>>553540964
>He might have been our enemy, but I'm sure he believed he wanted the best for Zemuria in his own way.
>I owe him for teaching me the skills that I have today, such as the Evil Eye.
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>>553541153
If they made 3rd now it would have routes and no darker writing. And action slop
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if thy made 3rd now they'd be talking about how weissmann means white man, because of course only a white man could be that evil
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If they made 3rd now then Ries' sister who's name i forgot about would've been revived and Kevin would stay the same guy he was in SC and the first half of 3rd
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>>553541350
haha.....
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>>553501479
Based and S rank rainbow dash pilled.
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>>553527780
Not me. I love Yuri and yuristelle but snekstelle is tied with Josette and loewe. After giving Joshua to klose those are the remaining two in the lead anyway as of the end of phantasma. I honestly can't pick between the two it feels like the natural pairing to pick the latter but renne will murder kill estelle even if she knows estelle is responsible for loewe being alive. on the other hand I feel like snekstelle would think Josette deserves better than her.

Without snekstelle I wonder who Chloe Bennet latches on to.
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>>553541559
No need for that, they alraedy made Kevin forget all his development in 3rd and Azure in Horizon
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>>553542152
Haha, that's the power of outsourced template writing...
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>>553514264
It's because of the happiness stone.
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>>553546215
I mean, ok, a reality warping luck stone would explain it but I don't remember what was said exactly
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>>553493064
Thanks
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rorr
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>popular works
sensing a theme here
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>>553551992
The Vanders are fucking bizarre when you think about it.
>Mueller introduced and playable back in Sky, he's the most bland, boring person in the entire setting by a mile
>Mueller DOESN'T return in the Erebonia arc despite logically he should be playable, just because he was that unpopular
>Cold Steel 3 pulls out a magic Vander brother never mentioned before... and Kurt is equally as stale bread as his bro, being a wet blanket runs in the family apparently
>The only cool member of the family is Zechs, and he isn't playable
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>>553552590
>The Lengend of Heroes
>Lengend
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>they remade the entire series just so Estelle would get a headpat
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>>553552631
>The only cool member of the family is Zechs, and he isn't playable.
The only cool member is Mama Vander.
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>>553552631
I liked Mueller as the straight man to Olivier, though
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>>553552631
Trannies like you hate everyone that doesn't act like a wacky tumblr OC. Pathetic.
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>fc
Boring.
>sc
Boring.
>3rd
Boring.
>zero
Fun to break.
>azure
Fun to break.
>CS1
Fun to break.
>CS2
Extremely fun to break.
>CS3
Fun to break.
>CS4
Fun to break.
>Reverie
Fun to break
>daybreak 1
Boring.
>daybreak 2
Boring
>horizon
Boring.

Why did they make progression so boring in Calvard? Can't even upgrade quartz. Holo Cores only activate when you boost and they're boring as fuck. You can't completely break the fucking game like you can in Cold Steel.
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All these tourists and newfags are praising an inferior version of FC like it's the next Persona 3. I hate it.
If I hear one more faggot say this was a faithfull remake racism will follow.
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>>553553860
It literally has the exact same map layouts, story, characters, etc.
Is 1st suddenly not a faithful remake because Crafts no longer suck and that Quartz no longer has redundant shit like Eagle Eye and Information?
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>>553554254
The script anon, the thing that actually matters was ruined.
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>>553554790
>the lack of actual fanfic ruins the game
Retard alert.
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>>553480840
Can't decide if lloydo's harem is better or Van's
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>>553555762
they're all part of Estelles harem
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>>553515401
is this tokyo xanadu
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>retarded midget returns
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>>553554790
The original script wasn't faithful, so the remake is more faithful than XSEED.
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Falcom and Kiseki aren't dying anytime soon, are they
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>>553559650
Thanks to Sky.
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>>553558213
welcome back anon
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>>553559971
Sky only boosted things like 2%, it didn't really do anything.
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>>553560365
Had to cover Kai's losses as well. If Kai hadn't been such a failure it'd look more impressive on paper.
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>>553555956
Van not in pic
he's the goat by default
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Sky would have sold 3x as much if they'd kept the superior XSEED script
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>>553559650
>Falcom and Kiseki aren't dying anytime soon
I've been saying this for a decade.
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>>553561427
Don't diddle kids.
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>>553562478
choco sex
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>>553562532
I like Nadia's boots they look perfect for ball crushing
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Today I learned Undertale was inspired by Brandish wtf
Falcom has inspired the entire industry all over the globe this shit is insane
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Is there any save transfer between Kuro 1-2 to Kai? I've played NISA's Kuro 1 and then proceeded to CLE's Kuro 2 so its kinda fucked up for me
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>>553564176
>Trails is their highest selling franchise
>Has literally 0 cultural legacy
Even random 90's Falcom games have influenced people but not a single Trails game ever has
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>>553553547
I also dont like new quartz system in Kuro-Kai, for me its the worst one so far
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>>553560708
Kai had no effect on that financial year.
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>>553564278
Falcom had the excuse of being one of the few weeb games being brought over to the west back then .
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>>553553079
She even plays children's card games. What does anon want from them? Jessica levels of stick in the mud?
>>553552905
I don't like them deboonking timeline loop at start of skyanon
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>>553564861
The report is from October 2024 to March 2025. It's Kai's relevant release period and it was down 87%. Then it went back up after Sky.
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>>553565313
Fuck off.
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>>553553860
In my opinion it's worst of both worlds remake wise. It's too faithful while at the same time the stuff that was changed is almost always for the worst. Gameplay is Pretty fun though. Two cakes
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>>553565457
Yeah it just feels like a 60 dollar HD mod. It does nothing to fix any of the issues of the original FC.
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>>553564278
you won't be so smug when my Falcom inspired femgoth Trails game comes out... !!!
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>>553565387
Kai released in September. I have debunked you and you should feel ashamed.
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>>553564176
Falcom is as old in games as Nintendo, newfag
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>>553564278
well there arent a lot of creative people out there whos dream it is to make a series of 20 games where nothing happens for 99% of it and the gameplay is just a hodgepodge of whatever is popular in jrpgs at the time each game is made
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>>553565549
It has much better gameplay, in and out of combat. That's all you really need.
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>>553565406
You seem upset. Have you listened to awakening lately?
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>>553565617
I forgive you
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how comes there is no Rixia NTR doujinshi? she is literally built for it
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>>553565604
Your logic suggests games stop selling the week after release. The numbers are directly compared to the same period from the previous year. Down 87.6% despite Kai and English Ys X and Daybreak 2 being released back to back. This is how calamitous this objectively bad video game was for Falcom.
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>Skytroon is still going
jesus, my point 12 hours ago was that Falcom is winning by staying true to themselves instead of doing stupid shit like adding a "Ryza protagonist"
for some reason this tard is trying to dunk on Kai to praise Sky when they're both part of Falcom winning lmao genuine nutcase
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>>553565828
Yet Kai sold more in Japan than First so your maths is off.
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>>553566027
Physically. An 87.6% decline in profits won't be repeated come March 2026. Are you gonna cry when you can no longer sustain your delusions? Are you gonna cry when Kai fails to reach 2k concurrent players this week?
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>>553565742
Fanficniggers need to die.
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>>553566027
Let it act smug now, Sky 2nd will cause it to take its own life and the fandom will finally be rid of its cancerous behaviour
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>>553564771
Yea I miss the old one.
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>>553566141
Kai sold more that First. This is objective fact. Are you going to cry when Second Chapter sells worse than Kai again and worse than First Chapter? Plus, last year Kato's funeral messed with things.
>>553566245
No. If you let it fester it'll invite more of it's kind into the fandom.
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its ok in a few days we can all laugh at kai bombing in the west
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>>553566347
>Kai sold more that First.
Physically. The next one will sell even less. And the one after that will sell less still. It's a digital era. Kai lead to an 87.6% decline in profits. That would suggest you're saying Falcom failed, which we know post-Sky 1st they didn't. So Kai gets released and they suffer massive losses. Unprecedented 6 month losses. Nearly 90% compared to a year in which only Ys X was released. 1st gets released and they've turned it around. Once 1st's 6 month report comes out, you better hope and pray Falcom takes another near-90% loss, or your reality will collapse.
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>>553565725
Nobody plays these games for the gameplay.
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Remember, Famitsu numbers are only physical sales so when Kai releases you are free to make digital sales numbers up in your head and pretend they are accurate
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>>553566525
You are ignoring that Falcom spent copious amounts of money on Kato's funeral. You are an evil liar or a newfag. I don't know which is worse.
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>>553566530
Yeah, we play it for the wri-
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>>553566629
This is an insanely unhinged, schizophrenic cope. You better hope and pray the numbers mesh with your reality come March, otherwise you have to be put on suicide watch. That's how important this delusion is to you.
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Oh boy I genuinely cannot wait for the dishonest discourse of comparing Sky 1st's global release numbers to Horizon's Western release numbers
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>>553566771
Haha, this is gonna be very painful for you.
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>>553566631
-ting and the characters, yes.
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>>553566347
>>553566027
>Fagbreak niggers still desperately clinging onto the dying Japanese market that can't stop slurping up Nintenshit and gachaslop
Kondo's exact words himself is that China and especially the West carried Sky remake to much more success compared to Kai. It's time you faggots stop clinging to the Elevens as an indicator of any market trend. The nips have long been a lost cause and the global market is where the future of Kiseki lies. And Sky 1st has been proven to be a huge success in the markets that actually matter
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>>553566860
>embarrassing fanfic
lol lmao
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>>553566631
>>553566912
its funny how you can instantly tell when the new writers took over
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I do not care for the writing in these games.
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>>553566951
Haha, it's so subtle. No one could tell!
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>>553566347
>Kai sold more that First.
If we take the whole world into account then no it didn't. I understand you like Kuro but every available metric and statement show this arc has failed. You can still like it in spite of that
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>>553566951
>"""new"""" writers
>And the script is just closer to the actual JP script compared the XSEED fanfiction.
The same kind of faggot that praises NIShit's Zoomer slop they shitted out with Ulrica
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>>553566912
>Immaculate Fan Masterpiece
Yes!
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>>553567104
retard, those are from the new quests they added to the remake
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>>553567104
That's not writing from the original script. It's from the garbage new side quests and travel dialogue. Written by outsourced niggers.
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>when your localization is so good it's being referenced in material 20 years after
XSEED were like the Shakespeare of localization. Weaboos missed out and thus they seethe in jealousy.
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>>553567359
>LOVE fanfic
>HATE the actual games
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>>553567521
I love both, the localization improves the original.
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>>553567359
Oh, and unrelated, but I forgot to add that I'm trans.
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You guys are a bit too old to be acting so childish over a niche video game series.
You should take a step back and revaluate the monster you've become by overindulging your negative feelings.
You don't have to be this arrogant and abrasive, you know? You can give kindness a try.
Maybe if you start practising empathy and mentally frame your conversations in a way that tries to reach understanding and comprehension instead of aggressive domination you won't be so angry all the time.

Do better.
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What are some of your favorite Estelle quotes?
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Sky 1st le bad
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>>553567773
I think you accidentally posted this on 4chan instead of in your text document. Good pep talk. You should try to do better. Getting upset about video games when your delusions are challenged is unhealthy.
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>>553568017
It's okay, man. You don't have to put on this aggressive act.
I don't hate you, I want you to live a better life. To soar above pain and anger.
I forgive you.
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The Classic
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>>553568159
I see it still lacks self-awareness entirely. Your mood swings are noticeably and in tune with your delusions.
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What kind of jew pre-order bonus does Horizon get?
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>>553568274
Dare to break free from this toxic loop you are stuck in.
You don't have to assume everyone is your enemy.
Give the world a chance and leave behind the belligerent attitude.
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>>553568467
Haha, you're still effectively talking to yourself. I'm just watching you give yourself a pep talk. Talk all this advice and follow through in the next thread and see where it gets you. I bet it's gonna be way more mentally stable if you can do it. You should be able to avoid getting upset about what usually gets you.
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I'm always torn because I don't like the idea of localizers inserting fanfic but I can also admit that Xsneed's version of Sky is better than the original script.
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>gotta learn to be zen for the release of beyond the horizon
The usual anti-localization autismos have gone into overdrive on the Steam forum this time. Multiple threads.
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>>553568715
That's the mindset of anyone who has a brain. But some people are so culture war brained that they cannot accept that a localizer can do anything positive ever.
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NISA should be sued for their Kai localization

NISA's handling of the script here exemplifies catastrophic localization failure, transforming Nihon Falcom's meticulously crafted JRPG narrative into unrecognizable fanfiction. This isn't an adaptation, it's an IP sabotage that obliterates the original's tone, cultural fidelity, immersion, and timelessness.

Japanese dialogue is concise, elegant, and era-appropriate for Zemuria's pseudo-19th/20th-century world with orbal tech. They sure as heck doesn't use ebonics. NISA injects verbose, invented "personality quirks" that rewrite intent.

All these "bet," "cap," "rizz," "UNC," "yeet," "sus," jargons breaks 4th wall in this lore heavy series that was built on worldbuilding consistency.

Japanese version of Ulrika is a cool, competent operative with witty, grounded dialogue. NISA's version is a hyper-modern meme spewing e-girl, altering arc from professional to cringy influencer caricature. Crew banter loses camaraderie for edgy quips, making personalities feel like TikTok clips.

Why go so far as wanting to sue NISA? because thanks to this, English speaking global players will now experience NISA's headcanon, not Falcom's vision. They were paid to faithfully translate the game (see: GungHo America and Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter), not create a script into amateur fanfic, where the localizer plays "director." Localization should convey meaning and nuance, not fabricate new subtext.

If you're paying money for this, you're paying for a glorified fan fiction labeled as official work.
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>>553566631
That was kino thoughbeit, Sting is a bro.
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>>553568616
I'm not whoever you were arguing with. Not that you'll believe me.
But that's part of the issue really, you seem to always be in attack mode.
Break free. This isn't good for you and it's ruining your mental health.

You used to be better before /fg/. Don't let it consume you.
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>>553568974
I think you should take your medication. If you're this mysterious third party every single time, then why are you addressing one side and not the other? See how this narrative of yours falls flat upon even the slightest scrutiny? Take the Sky 1st sales discussion as an example. One side violently insists the game is a complete failure while claiming Kai wasn't, when the data suggests the opposite and this is explained in a neutral manner. Well?
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>>553566693
You are evil. Begone from this fanbase.
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>>553569168
Hey, you're the one being emotional to the point of outright denying reality. You can't expect people not to predict your unraveling when you refuse to see any kind of reason.
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>>553568903
>Japanese dialogue is concise, elegant, and era-appropriate for Zemuria's pseudo-19th/20th-century world
stopped reading
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I'm gonna put my super sniffer up Shizuna's snatch.
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>>553569129
My original post didn't quote anyone. Neither did it target any specific side. It simply called attention to childish, belligerent behaviour.
Only you felt the need to engage with me over it so I've only engaged back with you.

Maybe take a day off /fg/ to reconsider why you engaged with my post. And what you have become.
You might've lost control but there's no shame in that. You can regain it and do better.
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>>553569248
The reality is that Kai outsold Sky in Japan.
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>>553569410
No. This was targeted. You have never addressed the other side, which makes the intent and identity obvious. You should take time off and "do better." Very unhinged behavior.
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>>553569497
Sky isn't well liked in Japan because it's badly written.
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>>553569508
Well, go ahead then. Can you explain how my post here >>553567773 applies to you but not to the other side?
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>>553569295
at least he didn't call it a medieval jrpg like some retard malding about nadia saying rizz did
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>>553569497
Physical sales in 2025, with no PS4 version this time around. Kai's reality is an 87.6% decline in profits. Meanwhile Kondo's reporting 1st is their best-selling game on PC ever along with actual profit. It's undeniable.
>>553569725
Then I misread and didn't see "you guys." Sorry, zen-bro.
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>>553570290
You like Jessica Chavez, not Falcom.
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>>553570215
87.6% is because of the death of Kato. Don't bring unrelated figures into the conversation. Kai was more successful than Sky.
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>>553570505
>Don't bring unrelated figures into the conversation.
You just did, crazy person.
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These quotes are so fucking awful lmao
Localizations aren't criticized hard enough
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>>553570215
Haha. Well, just try not to lose yourself in the sauce.
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Based Estelle making weaboos seethe
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>>553570737
>been together 7 years and still aren't married and still act like awkward teenagers around eachother
weaboos won if anything
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These are just Estelle quotes btw
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>>553567836
they are all childish
i like lloydo's barrier pep talk
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>>553570920
shoot them with what dumbass
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>>553570920
We know, we have all played the games
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>>553570706
Haha, okay hallway monitor...
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localizers won
the fanfiction beat the Japanese
how will we ever recover
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Always wondered if the Estelleschizo is a falseflag to make people dislike her of if it really thinks its being cute by spamming Estelle
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look at that natural dialogue, the tasteful jokes in between, oh my god, it even makes sense...
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I just know they're going to botch the orbal shutdown phenomenon in the remake.
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>>553570290
Where/when does this occur?
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There is nothing wrong with doing a better job than the original
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>>553571413
action combat alone already removes the tension of it
but who cores, anyone experiencing it first through 2nd deserves having their experience ruined
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>>553571413
How do you mean? I just played that part.
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>>553571338
It's the latter, Estellefags aren't exactly subtle
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>>553571557
FC, in the orphanage I believe
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>>553571694
nta but it directly impacted your gameplay and suddenly made the combat exponentially harder making it feel like the story and its crisis was actively affecting you the player
it made you invested in solving the crisis quickly so things could get back to normal which was a really cool feeling
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Don't let this low effort spam distract you from the fact that Kondo was embarrassed by Sky 1st's abysmal performance in Japan to the point he officially stated they have to abandon the Japanese market
Estelle's unappealing nature caused a Japanese company to leave its own market

Laugh at girlfailure Estelle!!
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meanwhile back in reality
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>>553572327
Why should they support a market who doesn't buy their games? Makes sense.
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>>553572456
It's more about the fact that unappealing female MCs like Estelle sank the series to abandon-market levels
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Horizon is the first time I'm not buying a Trails on its English release. Daybreak 2 was that bad.
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>>553572670
we both know come Thursday you will be buying Horizon and get excited about it
drop the act
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>>553568178
Homophobic fanfic from XSNEED. Thankfully Gungho localized FAITHFULLY to what the actual JP script says
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>>553572789
Nah not this time.
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getting horizon on thurs. daybreak 2 was pretty bad but i had some fun with it
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The demake ruined the only reason any of us are here. If not for OGstelle /fg/ would not exist, nobody would even remember whogivesafuckstelle from the JP.
Estelle is the heart and soul of this franchise and the ENG localization is Estelle at her peak. Only subhuman D.G. Cult members who hate everything about this series signal against the one good piece of localization in this series.
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Pirating Trails is the only ethically correct move and even then you could be spending your time on better things
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Bros...they're stealing our memes and making them worse...
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>>553573128
go and stay go
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>>553573128
reddit is where memes go to die
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>>553570627
I brought up the explanation for your unrelated figure. Now begone faggotanon.
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If Kai outperformed 1st remake, then why is 2nd getting released before Kai 2?
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>>553573314
At odds with reality again.
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>>553573346
low effort projects go first
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>>553573346
Because Kai was such a big failure that Kondom had to apologize for it. Even 3rd is coming before Kai 2.
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>>553573128
They didn't even bother to change the message timestamps from the old one kek
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>>553571413
It was terrible filler with even less fun gameplay than Sky normally had. Crafts being good will fix it along with probably limited fast travel.
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>>553573445
On opposite day.
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We all love Trails, there's no need to split your love into specific entries you can love the entire series and be happy for each game
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Ragecuck asshole status?
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>>553571413
It was excellent storytelling with even more fun gameplay than Sky normally had. Crafts being good will improve it along with probably limited fast travel.
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>>553574148
They're called Vankids for a reason.
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>>553572327
They should have translated XSEED's script back into Japanese.
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>>553574420
You tell me.
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orbal shutdown was ok. i'm just not looking forward to the slog through ruan and zeiss again early game
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2nd will expose SC as the shit game it was
4 tetracyclic towers in a row with boring bosses at the end btw
the same tower climb for liber ark with the SAME bosses again btw
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>>553575071
it's necessary. there has been too much sc glazing
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>>553575071
SC is:
Kino prologue
Filler Chapter 1
Filler Chapter 2
Filler Chapter 3
Filler Chapter 4
Filler Chapter 5
Kino Chapter 6
Filler Chapter 7
Filler Chapter 8
Mostly filler final chapter.
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Haha, then you have all of Cold Steel and Calvard being pure filler...
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Did Kuro 1 get a drop in sales in Japan because most people stopped playing after hajimari do to being done with class 7 and wasn’t interested in other casts or countries?
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>>553575071
Unironically can't wait for the normie whiplash when they realize the series is a constant asset reuse.
Some poor retards are excitedly waiting a whole year for 2nd thinking it's gonna be some incredible sequel taking them to new places. Le Locle is going to make them super excited to leave Liberl and see new places... And then it's another 60 hours of circling Liberl but in the opposite direction.
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>>553575448
Let's compare SC with CS1
Prologue: Kino
Chapter 1: Non-filler
Chapter 2: Kino
Chapter 3: Kino (A guy got eaten by a spider!)
Chapter 4: Non-filler
Chapter 5: Kino
Chapter 6: Non-filler
Final Chapter: Kino
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>>553575589
and you revisit every area twice (rolent 3 times)
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>>553575754
When you put it like that... Rean mogs Estelle omg
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>>553575754
CS1:
thors parts - comfykino
field studies - kino
finale - ludokino
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Cs1 did get a lot of westerners into the series back in 2018-2019
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Fellas... I think I love Cold Steel.
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god I love talking to myself
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CS2 has the same problem as SC where you have to revist the same places multiple times
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Yeah but in Sky you fight Walter a bunch of times and it's always the same fight
In Cold Steel McBurn is always a new cool fight despite being the same guy
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>>553576259
True, but at least it feels like there's a real purpose to the things you're doing in CS2. Act 1 is finding Class VII, Act 2 is Suikoden crossed with liberating Erebonia including Thors which was a goal from the beginning of the game. Then it ends with finishing the war and has a hefty postgame in Crossbell and the final free day. SC is just aimlessly wandering around Liberl until Joshua comes back and you have to do the filler towers and filler orbal blackout to make you walk around Liberl again.
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>>553576606
Cs2 is the most disliked game in the fandom
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>>553576739
proof?
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>>553575071
>>553575589
Nah, normalfags will delude themselves that these low effort copy-paste sequels are 10/10 masterpieces because one-note NPCs nobody gives a shit about will make a heckin reference to an event from a previous game and other memberberries gallore that tricks ironic weebs into thinking these games have intricate worldbuilding and characters with depth
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>>553576375
actual, unironic reanspic logic btw
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>>553576739
That would be Daybreak 2.
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>>553576829
I'm literally European, love to see the impotent seethe THOUGH
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Remake will at least make physical craft users feel more fun plus I’m sure difficulty mods will be a thing so I’ll be more entertained with it than original sc gameplay wise
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sc could really just skip the filler towers and have the enforcers activate them without having to fight them. it wouldn't make any difference to the game and would cut some bloat
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>>553576739
Thats Kuro 2 or maybe Kai considering it buckbroke Asia. Poor fucks.
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Does the 6 unannounced games include Sky 2nd and Xanadu?
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>>553577213
do they seem unannounced to you?
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>>553576912
Sure reanspic
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>>553577042
In west I can see people putting Kai in their top 5 or 6 games. The finale was good plus if you like aso you will like this game. Westerners will like the “maturity” of the Agnes rejection scene

You can’t put westerners and Japan as the same they are different cultures
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>>553577381
Concession accepted lol
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>>553577487
We shall see if they put their money where their mouth is then.
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>cold steel fan: explains the pros and cons of cold steel and sky and gives actual arguments

>Skytroon: sure Reanspic

No wonder Skytroons are the dumbasses and schizos of the community that keep saying “back in my day we had this”
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>>553577374
Right haha.....I hope one of them is Sky 3rd.
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>>553577518
Sure reanspic
>>553577628
>Reanspic "argument"
uh cs good because you do shit that i like, sky bad cuz you do shit i dislike

Keep getting mad people call out who retarded you are tho lol
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>>553577628
What else can you expect of a fanbase that hates 10 out of 13 games? No idea why the freaks don't just move on lol
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>>553577884
A lot of them moved on, only retards who let video games dictate their feelings like >>553577876 are the ones who can't let go
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>>553577876
>who retarded you are
Loooool third worlder Skytroon MALDING so hard it can't even type properly
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>>553578036
kek smoked that freak
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>>553575494
Following the sales trend, it is because Cold Shit was so bad people wanted nothing to with Trails
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>>553575494
Yea. They only care about merch now. Calvard just didn't have anything nor was it good enough on its own. So they fucked off. The one that remained want major story stuff and Falcom has blueballed them time and time again.
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>>553578414
Cold steel games were the best selling though?? Dropping the ps vita as well as the 3 year gap caused the drop from cs2-cs3 but still sold well

Are you sure you’re just using cold steel as a scapegoat for you not to admit that maybe not everyone likes calvard as much as you?
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>>553577884
>>553578013
These are the same faggots going on non stop about Kuro killing kiseki. And it is more likely a Cold Shitter hates any non cold shit game, as evidenced by trying to "prove" Cold Shit 2 is better than SC.
But expecting an argument not based on delusions from Reanspics is a fool's errand.
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People that say “cold shit” unironically didn’t play the games and are so salty that the games are well received in both west and japan. They are pretty bitter that people were excited for Reans return in Kai. They are what you call “loud minority”
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>>553578861
He can't sustain his stance, watch him start personally attacking you if you press the issue and demand logic and reason of him
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They'll implement whatever corrections they thought up next arc. So maybe it'll be fine.
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For “cold steel being shit” I wonder why they played all 5 games. If it was sooo bad people would not play 5 games of it there’s no logic. I think it’s just wanting to say it’s bad so they can be with the “cool old games lovers” consisting of 2 people in this place. Sunk cost is a bitch
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>>553578968
Take a timestamped picture of your hand and post it here to prove you're not a self-hating non-white
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>>553578861
>Muh vita
Lmao, again with this bullshit. So why did that not stop the bleeding? Ever since CS2, the games sold less and less. And in 2017 you are at a point where the PS4 was near 100M units sold.

Yes the Cold Shit games have sold more than Calvard, and they also lost literally half of the week 1 audience in Japan. I would not call them a success, popular, or good, having played them
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>>553579447
Nta, but you are seriously underestimating how good handheld is in Japan. Their lifestyle makes those things more appealing than it is with the west.
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Reminder that more people are probably playing Sky 1sts demo then either of Horizons demos. I think that speaks volumes.
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>>553579662
A global release has more people than a regional release? Crazy concept, man
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>>553579848
>an unnecessary remake mogging the main series
Seems like the western fanbase has silently given up on Calvard. Again.
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EU PS5 Deluxe Editions in english, german and italian are delayed due to unexpectedly high demand
does not apply to standard, LE or other platforms/languages of DE
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>>553580149
Hey man if thinking that way makes you feel better go right ahead
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>>553580216
Its up to the consolefags now....pcfags gave up....
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>>553580216
my narrative... fuck you...
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>>553580353
Would you like to predict launch steam count?
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>>553580216
>unexpectedly high demand for their plushie deluxe edition
OH NO NO DOOMER BROS?
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It’s weird cold steel 4 had a director yet that game felt badly directed but Kai no kiseki had no director yet that game felt better directed like the van and Agnes scene was really nice and the routes helped reduce cast bloat.
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>>553579563
NINTENDO handhelds. A very important distinction. And it is worth reminding you falcom is a PC-first company and it makes sense longtime Japanese kiseki fans would be too. So this mythical fan that never bought a PS4 and only had a Vita is a very big cope.
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>>553580654
Kusano gave up on the main series too.....why does everyone hate kuro.....
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>>553580695
Kuro no kiseki had the same console as hajimari, only a one year gap yet had a huge drop. People shit on cs4 and say that’s what caused players to drop the series but yet Hajimari still sold around the same with a teeny drop.

Cs3 had a 3 year gap as well as a console not being used anymore. Which means all the people that exclusively play psvita didn’t play cold steel 3. Japan didn’t even have a switch version of cs3 when in came out in Japan
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>falcom is a PC-first company
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>>553573549
>>553573128
Would emma reaaaaally say that
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>>553580695
>falcom is a PC-first company
Thats not been the case for decades now
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>>553580547
Hey man if comparing a global release vs a regional release is what makes you feel happy go right ahead
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>>553581098
So that's a no then.
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>>553580952
emma doesn't ask
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>>553581278
I think we both know that won't truly make you happy man, but keep going I guess
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>>553580695
>NINTENDO handhelds
So you're a Nintendo fanboy? Japan likes handhelds in general.
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>>553581536
No need to say no again I got it
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>>553581871
Did you also get the global release vs regional release bit? Haha
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>>553580952
>>553581406
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post naked kisekis
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>>553581978
No i didn't receive that cope
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>>553582928
Figures
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>>553583019
Haha
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>>553580216
B-but my steam numbers...
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>>553580216
I'm so tired of being wrong... Estelle was meant to win ffs...
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She did win. Devs are burnt out on Vans games.
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>>553580850
So again, how does it make sense to you that a totally new game would lose 30k people? Looking at the numbers, CS sold less and less after 2 and Hajimari was no exception.

Plus, this Vita narrative is just stupid. I looked up numbers and in 2015 Japan had sold around a million Vita units, and in December 2017 PS4 sales were at around 5 million. So you have 5 times the install base, and the PS4 was selling. I just do not buy that CS was so popular and beloved and yet it did not compel people to buy an already popular console to continue the saga, and that is assuming you are talking about some Vitafag without a PS4.
>>553580901
Newfag.
>>553581072
You sure? Kondo credits the demo of 1st on Steam for a big reason it was a success.
>>553581765
No, it is simply the truth. The mobile market in Japan is big which is why gachas have taken such a big hold on the country, but comparing Nintendo's handheld numbers to anything else will make it clear there is an undisputed king.
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>>553584464
trying way too hard, kiddo
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>>553584464
the vita argument was always cope and it acts like nobody had a ps4
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>>553584464
what a lack of a job does to a mf
bro LARPing as an investor lmao
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>>553584464
>You sure?
Yea. They haven't released games exclusively on PC in ages. Them doing that is why they didn't grow like other Japanese companies.
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>>553584464
A Japanese player still cannot play Kai no Kiseki on PC, they have to wait till Thursday
Retard
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Can Ten Wise Men beat Ouroboros?
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Can God Generals beat Ouroboros?
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>>553585476
>>553585659
GM-chan will fufu and delete them haha
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Not sure why you insist on posting this meme when you then never engage with anyone that actually replies to you lol what a weirdo
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>>553585823
Shut Up Fuck Off
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>>553586206
Fufu....hehe....
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Sex with Risette
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>>553586680
what does android boob sweat taste like
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>>553585462
Just like how a western one right? Retard.
>>553584573
>>553584734
>no argument
Concession accepted.
>>553584949
Their roots are in PC gaming and the fact Kondo credits Steam for the success of a game that let them buy back shares in their company means it is significant enough they will monitor that market. Exclusivity is a thing of the past now, even for Nintendo.
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>>553585659
Arietta Sexo.
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>>553585659
Nope, they're a bunch of shitters. McMeme and Hat Sephiroth could defeat them all
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>>553587010
>Their roots are in PC gaming
They abandoned those roots long ago. If they didn't PC would get games first.
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>>553587010
>Just like how a western one right?
Now try to say it in English, retard
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>>553584464
You obviously were not around when the Vita was a thing. The Vita was what Japan preferred. Vita versions of Falcom games consistently outsold home console versions.
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>>553587312
They didn't for the reasons stated before. Your arbitrary metrics for what constitutes as this are irrelevant. You are right that they were a backward ass company that stubbornly stuck to PC when JRPGs flourished in the SNES-PS2 days, but they still care about that market and judging by how well Sky 1st ran on PC, they have the chops to put out quality products on it.
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>>553587582
He's clearly a newfag tourist trying to hard to fit in
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>>553587873
They still care but calling them a PC first company is misleading.
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>>553587873
>"Falcom is a PC-first company"
>but they don't release on PC first
>"your arbitrary metrics are irrelevant"
Bwo...?
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>>553587582
CS1 and 2 are Vita games first and foremost though. Plus they didn't outsell the PS3 by double or a margin that indicated more than half of its sales were on one system alone.
>>553587893
If I was trying to fit in in this reanspic general, you'd know lil bro. I would say the same dumb shit that 15 reanspics here say. Remember that, btw. Your skewed version of reality is not pertinent or relevant to 99.8% of the Kiseki fanbase.
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Is this guy is still yapping?
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>>553588742
So when are you going to do this >>553579287?
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>>553580216
>it's episode 028567 of "Falcom makes 100 deluxe copies, sells them all, people claim this means that the game is going to sell well, it doesn't"
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>>553588952
When you learn to make a cogent argument not based on delusions. At this rate, that is looking unlikely, Reanspic.
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>>553589091
Why do you hate yourself?
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Again with the projection? A better question is why you want to see mens' hands, faggot.
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>>553589280
Because your entire stance is based on your opponents being "spics", but you are one yourself hence why you can't provide proof to the contrary
Self-hating sad sack of shit
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>>553588742
>or a margin that indicated more than half of its sales were on one system alone.
Game Data Library LTD sales (while they were charting)
CS1 Vita- 141,304
CS1 PS3- 108,378
More than half of CS1's sales were on Vita. 30% more than home console.
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>>553589717
lol he got destroyed again
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>>553588742
>CS1 and 2 are Vita games first and foremost though.
Nta but they both released on PS3 and Vita on the same day. You cant even get basic info right dude.
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I don't get it
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please dear Tita, could you tell us who your favorite characters in the series are?
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>>553589550
Wrong. It is an insult, not the crux of my argument, you illiterate, projecting Reanspic.
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>>553591412
Quit hating yourself, it's really sad
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>>553591275
Erm your reans hair is....
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>>553591768
I don't see the problem.
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>>553592464
No....you cant do this.....
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Sky Olivier shows up and the game is fun again, I like it
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I think calvardfags want to blame cold steel for calvard arc having dropping sales instead of just admitting that maybe not everyone likes the arc as much as they do. I mean look at the dengeki poll, Reans group barely got screentime in Kai yet they are in the top 10 besides Towa.

They hate that people like cs in Japan and are blaming cold steel for the decline in sales even though it’s beloved there
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the sales started declining with cs3 though
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>>553592464
olivier knows that this sissy has worn women's clothing. he can just tell.
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>>553593385
>>553589717
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Kai 2 will also have a huge decline because of the 3 year gaps. Huge gaps for sequels have also been the downfall.
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>>553593425
that has nothing to do with cs4 selling less than cs3 and hajimari selling less than cs4
cs3 objectively began the decline
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>>553593385
I genuinely think you are intentionally being disingenuous if you don’t think the long wait between cs2 and cs3 and losing the psvita didn’t contribute whereas Kuro 1 is the same console and only 1 year wait
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Cold steel may have been the “decline” according to calvardfags but the characters are still just as well received in the dengeki polls being in the top 10. Only aso on the dengeki poll was Agnes and Van. I don’t why falcom didn’t let renne be an option for the poll though that was weird
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>fc-cs2: series has strong word of mouth and maintains a consistent quality so each game sells better than the previous one as the fanbase grows
>cs3-sky 1st: word of mouth dies off as the quality of the games plummets and people leave the series, each game sells worse than the last
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Let it be known the schizzy had to run away and was unable to confront this >>553589717 and this >>553589943 post.

Laugh at him and his misery!
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Reminder that Sky 1st was so successful that Falcom halted the Calvard arc for 2nd
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>>553593106
>admitting that maybe not everyone likes the arc as much as they do
Pretty sure it's this + falcom fucking those games over. Everything that could go wrong did.
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Reminder that Sky 1st bombed so hard Kondo started hyping up the Zero remake and wondering if they could get away with not doing Sky 3rd LOL
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>>553594307
Its not like they wanna make Calvard stuff anyway. I say they let them have fun making shit they want again.
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>Kondo says it succeeded
>NO IT BOMBED SHUT UP
Vankid...
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>>553594498
I genuinely want a remake of Zero before Kai 2.
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Kondo had to apologize to shareholders and fans for Kai and was forced to admit they are tired of making Calvard.
With Sky 1st he admitted the game underperformed in Japan but said that Chinese and American sales more than made up for it.
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The action combat experiment failed. Kill it with fire. The normies want turn based.
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>>553594769
Crossbell censorslop without based Shirley? No thanks. It will be worse than Sky censorslop.
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>>553595062
BASED
>>553595089
Oh. I hadn't considered that....
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Honestly? I'm sick of all of you acting tough behind the screen. It gets grating knowing you're all nerdy ass motherfuckers who would stutter and get voice cracks if you had to say any of this shit IRL to me.
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It's incredibly based how Shirley was turned from a freak lesbian into Cedric's bitch. Arnor cock is too strong.
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>>553595495
join me in the ring bitch and see what happens, i look like pic related btw
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>>553595089
Shartley is an awful character anyways so nobody would miss it
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oh nonono
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>>553595736
is that...
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...that voice...
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>Cuckdrick
LMAO
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>>553595625
not into blonde bimbos sorry
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>>553595736
So this is the amazing Kiseki writing i've heard so much about
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>>553595495
You won't do shit bitch
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>>553595089
haha i remember watching a streamer crash out over that
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>>553595680
Nah, she pisses off femoids and woketards, but unlike Angelica she's also hot. So she's the best and most based Falcom has to offer.
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>>553595736
who is this mysterious white haired man in a mask?
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Reanafemanon, post more yurislop
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>>553586680
>hakuleg
gay
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>>553591556
So again, once you can make a cogent argument based on facts and not delusions you will get your hand picture, faggot.
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>>553597224
Happy to see you at least stopped the self-hating
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>>553580216
>unexpectedly high demand
KAI WON
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>>553580216
How come this didn't happen for Sky 1st?
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Snekfaggot asshole status?
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>>553594498
That's just because he hates Kevin. Remember he was disappeared from the Gralsritter picture
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What will the cope be when Horizon has a sub-2k Steam peak?
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>>553598386
Kuro 2 already has a sub-2k Steam peak?
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Guy is already gearing up to spend the next 5 months trying to convince people that a regional release doing smaller numbers than a global release is a huge deal lol
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>>553595089
How did we get from something this based to helping a tranny getting his hormone blockers from Remiferia? Did Falcom fire all their old writers and hire brainwashed gaijins as writers for the Calvard arc?
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This is the fate of Kevin >>553493064
Kondo will retcon Kevin into being a girl in 3rd
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>>553598874
Kai 2 is gonna do like 25k at this rate
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Vankid still mad about no Kai2 huh
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>>553596701
Japan is stupid sometimes
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>>553598874
Why was there such a big drop after reverie? Does a good amount of the Japanese trails fanbase only care about class 7?
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>>553599023
Reverie provided a satisfying thematic finale for the series and Daybreak didn't really give anyone a solid reason to return, plus visually it's very unappealing so it didn't attract newcomers either
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>>553596701
You didn’t think Angelica looked good with the skin tight jacket making her tits seem bigger than actual design in cs1? Cs3 her design isn’t good I agree though
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>>553599023
Maybe Daybreak 1 just isn't as good a game as you've convinced yourself it is
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>>553599151
> plus visually it's very unappealing so it didn't attract newcomers either

But isn’t daybreaks engine and design way better with better animations. Cao even looks better in calvard than in reverie model wise. Are you talking about artwork and cover wise?
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>>553599023
Falcom sold out the old fanbase with CS so when CS ended the newer fanbase they courted didn't stick around so by Calvard they had lost both the old and new fanbases. Basically Falcom wanted short term success and sacrificed the long term growth of the series for it.
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>>553599384
I really don’t see that big of a difference between Crossbell and cold steel. Both arcs have similar tropes like harem, dense protags, and redemption and forgiveness for a good amount of characters. Even azures finale is divisive till this day. It was just a holy grail of build up because it was inaccessible for a long time and geofront team and kitsune won’t stop harping how much they love it.
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>>553599352
>But isn’t daybreaks engine and design way better with better animations
no
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>>553599846
am i supposed to pretend this looks bad
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>>553599384
Still love this cope when maybe a majority of the western fanbase discovered the series through CS and went back to Sky.
This is how it went in the west:
>People started with CS
>Realize it's a sequel
>Go back to Sky
>Tell other people to start with Sky if they hear them talking about starting from CS
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>>553599846
That’s still far better than cold steel. And your being disingenuous by not showing the mocap scenes that happen in Kai and the new craft animations for the calvard crew
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>>553599958
yes and you are supposed to cum in your pants when someone posts rean's Kai s-craft.
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5 years from now /fg/ will love Calvard because it will be old.
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>>553599958
You're free to like boring animations and sterile visuals, most people don't find it appealing and prefer Cold Steel/Sky 1st's visuals
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Kuro 1 is good and Kai would have been better if routes didn’t exist. Calvard is fine is just most people here only viewed it through speed run streams so they got a bad and misunderstood first impression
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>>553600285
dont try and lump cold steels visuals in with sky 1st lmfao
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>>553600370
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Trails through Daybreak
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>>553580216
Once again just like with Sky 1st, the West now carries Kiseki. Tell me again why the fuck do Shitpan's sales even matter anymore. Fuck the Elevens
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>>553599846
>mogs Shitvard for 1/10th of the budget cost
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Ah, yes. The amazing Cold Steel animations.
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>>553598874
In Japan and Sky 1st sold significantly more elsewhere.*
Ftfy
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>>553600481
Sure but I said Kuro 1 not “trails through daybreak” at lot of stuff got changed like lore and characterizations by hatsuu. Kuro 1 translation actually makes aso less cringe and more smart
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>>553600667
I only apply this logic to Sky 1st and ignore it for every other entry.*
Ftfy
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>>553600653
Unironically looks better and more soulful than Fagvard
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csfags really have become the exact type of braindead nostalgiafagging retard they used to always complain about in skyfags
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>>553600543
>PSP-era chibishit
>Mogging anything from Calvard
Lol. Lmao.
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>>553600947
>literal onsen filler anime episode
holy shit am I glad I skipped this arc
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>>553600970
It's a tale as old as time. If Falcom still has it in them to shit out at least one more full arc, Calvardfags will inevitably become just like them.
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>>553597296
>self-hating
Why can't Reanspics come up with a single (one) (uno) (ichi) argument without relying on their delusions?
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>>553600653
SOVL
>>553600947
SOULESS
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Are skytroons and calvardfags making cold steel fans their boogeyman again? I swear they get a remake and the cs arc is done yet they bitch they most?

What’s wrong with them?
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>>553601225
Why can't you ever get your point across without the self-hating insult?
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>>553601370
With how much you cry about the term Reanspic, I am surprised you have the gall to accuse others of using it in a self-hating manner. When it clearly hurts you so much being used.
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lol people complain about cold steel more than talk about current arc games like calvard and sky
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TAKE THIS
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>>553601926
rean derangement syndrome is that strong
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every arc has really good and really shit parts the gap between arcs is nowhere near as wide as many of you like to believe
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>>553600947
>banter between bros
Gay! Woke!
>Crying about muh Crow for the 1203847th time
Based. Sovlful

Cold Shitters are the dumbest faggots in this fanbase for their contrarian takes. No wonder there are literally 15 of you living in delusion that the arc that lost essentially half of its sales is good or popular.
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>>553601926
True. We really need to learn to ignore all the reanspic samefagging that clogs up the general.
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they don't call her the swift for nothing
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>>553602460
she teleported, what a fraud
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>>553602283
You’re the only one here who has been complaining about nothing. This general was talking about other things before you threw a tantrum over your boogeyman
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>>553602153
The irony is that you sound just as defensive and precious about your arc as cold steel fans. Your no better or worse than them schizo
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>>553603039
Anytime anyone talks about anything else you immediately throw a tantrum about CS. It's true we really should just all learn to ignore you when you start instead of feeding you.
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you're not fooling anyone, vankidfag, you gay schizo pedophile
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>>553603198
>Your no better or worse than them schizo
>Your
You're, ESL-kun. And wrong. I am better, more valuable and an all around better person than every single one of you combined.
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Vankid seems to be pretty offended lmao I wonder if he’s more unhinged since Kai 2 got delayed oh wait…… not even confirmed in development yet.
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>>553601926
People always talk about the King.
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>>553603889
it's cancelled i'm afraid
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>>553602139
True, all arcs have good and bad stuff.
People with below average IQs fail to realize Cold Shit has more bad stuff than good. Like these three prime examples >>553603889
>>553604070
>>553604070
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>>553604951
these are two examples, is your waifu towa by any chance?
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>>553605098
He does sound like the kind of person who'd enjoy an immigration NGO girl
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>>553605169
the one with the massive fat butt?
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it's not fat she's just a midget
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>>553605098
Anyone playing Cold Shit that fails to realize Towa is superior again falls to that camp.
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Reminder that everyone adores Towa and if you dislike her then you are canonically wrong.
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>>553586680
I can see sex with her being very slow and sensual, but also comforting. Like, every gentle thrust will feel very soothing and warm. And then she gives you a soft and loving hug as you cum.
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>>553605676
>not choking her with a belt while you fuck her cyborg brains out
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>>553605676
Is Crow into slow and sensual sex though? We all know he took her for a ride.
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>>553606042
this, with the hebe model
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>>553579653
If God were real and looked like Agnes, I'd definitely get on my knees and pray to her every morning and night.
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post 750
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Ryza good
Coom good
Kiseki needs more coom.
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Coomseki
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Bring the coomer mini game from reverie back to save calvard.
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>OWIE
>SWITCHEROO
>SHUFFLE SHUFFLE
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>>553608568
only if you still play as rean
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it's ogre now
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>>553609380
haha rean it's time to stop holding back
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>>553609062
Rean gets Agnes, Renne and Feri. Lloyd gets Elaine, Judith and Risette. Kevin gets Nadia, Lapis and Celis. Van gets Quatre, Aaron and Bergard.
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>>553609021
>played with English dub lol
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>>553609952
>rean gets random ass hoes
NO
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>>553609952
This but the other way around and Crow watches from the cuck chair so /fg/ Reanspics can have 100% immersion
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>>553610226
Don't worry, Rean will also have Fie, Altina and Towa. Lloyd will also have Elie and Tio. Kevin will also have Ries.
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Rean has unironically expressed more sexual interest in women (he has lines towards Alisa, Emma and Laura) than Van
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>>553610572
>Kevin will also have Ries
She is a literal who in the series
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>>553610280
Rean & Crow basically do everything together even mech fights, they’d tag team fr.
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>>553610759
Kevin promises, at the end of 3rd and reaffirmed in Azure, to never do anything without Ries.
He breaks it in Horizon because the Calvard arc is a black hole of stupid, and anyone in the arc turns stupid
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>>553610947
The only thing they'd tag team are Osborne's nuts
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>>553610947
Crow would want that, but I'd imagine at the suggestion Rean would be pissed off at the idea of Crow being involved.
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>>553608568
They should had added it in Kuro 2 as an apology for the rest of the game.
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Kai 2 will have a mini game where Agnes, Elaine and Shizuna give Van massages, with less clothes each time.
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where the cute half asian girls at?

We all love Towa btw
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>>553602053
m-masaska... how did he...
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I like how vankids are trying to derail about calvard and sky having less sales in Japan by talking shit about cold steel and making it seem it’s the least popular. Cs1 is what got most westerners into the franchise
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This is so anime, I gotta go watch all of Code Geass/Guren Laggan after this.
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>>553611902
I like how you're an ESL imbecile on top of being a gay schizo pedo, Vankidfag.
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>>553611968
Rean will save Zemuria.
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Towa on the tenth page!
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>>553612375
Das Rite!
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estelle is an item hoarder...?
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>>553612375
His tachi will be the tachi that cleaves the heavens! MY FUARKING HERO!!!
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Holy fuark is this the final thread??!? Our End of Saga?
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>>553606310
Stop using westoid terms. The proper word here is JC.
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Something tells me, these Ouroboros politics, will never make sense. How the fuck can you both be a fugitive and working for your organization and be the 2nd Anguis. How is Sharon allowed to exist, why did she not get the Joshua treatment.
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>>553613446
Chest messages are non-canon. One of the games has lesbian fanfiction in them.
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>>553613808
Don't ask questions
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>>553613815
SOVL
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Loewe!
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>>553614145
Loewe's body was never found...
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>>553614145
Dats Azure Siegfried, get it right anon.
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Them playing blue destination for Rean vs Siegfried was good. I wish they played that theme and Liannes theme in cs4 for their pre divine knight rivalry battle
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the magical spirits of fairytales...of course...It all makes sense now...
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>>553613702
You will never be Japanese
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what the fuck is going on
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>>553614623
He’s like lianne and Osborne he’s an immortal until he loses in his divine knight battle in cs4. But then unfortunately he gets revived anyways because Alisa’s father will use the septerrions to revive him and Millium from death
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>>553611072
Does she at least get mentioned in Horizon?
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So the goal here is to destroy the world? Change the timeline? Rewrite history? Something like that.
Also these gnomes and ogres or whatever, Olivier said that 1200 years ago these things were real, I wonder do the previous LOH games ever mention them?
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>>553599023
Maybe? I think a bigger factor is a combination of general fatigue and Calvard not having enough good stuff on its own to warrant getting it.
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>>553615692
The lore of zemuria the world is made and planned since sky but what happens individually in each country is planned while the arcs are being developed. For example falcom didn’t originally plan for there to be a third hamel survivor which is ash carbide the guy who will be Reans student later
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Uh oh, Vankid is having a melty! Remember to do as the rules say for underaged shitposters like him!
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>>553599352
>design
No. Its fot better 3D but the designs of the world take a hit. Graphics are also not a priority for Nips.
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>>553615825
I get that they retcon things, but does this ancient lore factor into anything in the previous games before Sky? I feel like they are almost alluding to something like that. These gnomes feel completely like they are from some other game.
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>>553616038
Like there’s no highways or environments for the party to travel around in like in the previous arcs?
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>>553616143
So you have to remember that each country has its own lore and its own historical figures. Sky had the people from liber ark, crossbell had alchemists, and cold steel has gnomes, witches then later on a class system.

Calvard even had a revolutionary war. However we don’t know the waaaay back then old lore for calvard yet. That’s for Kai 2
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they just couldn't help themselves...
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>>553616261
The environment itself is just far too close our reality which makes it uninteresting. We went from semi fantastic late 19th century Germany to modern France.
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>>553616143
Gnomes are from Erebonia, they are like the witches. Their lore goes deep but also mostly Erebonia only.
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>>553616540
So modern? I get that criticism. I guess I don’t mind it since this is a calvard after a big boom in tech. Plus different cities like longlai, langport, and Basel have unique designs especially Basel.
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>>553613815
Azure, And I swear the lesbian fanfic is like half the chests
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>>553616451
>>553616561
Alright...I guess I'll find out in due time. They really could have picked a better name though.
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>>553615540
yes. In the worst way.
>Kevin: Ugh, I cannot tell Ries! I'm the Heretic Hunter again! I will talk to her and apologize after this is all over!
No, I'm not kidding, that's what they did to Kevin.
Also he loses to Swin and Nadia while using both the Ur and Loa versions of his stigma at once
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who does this Azure Siegfried nigga think he is... <C>???
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>>553617031
Rufus and lapis too. I don’t like swin and Nadia that much and am bored of them but at least tell the full story
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>>553616893
It's a story that needs to be told.
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>>553616901
The reason falcom used gnomes is because in folklore gnomes were craftsman and skilled builders. The gnomes in the trails universe were the ones that built the divine knights and the witches were the ones that put the fragment of the great one in each of the seven knights
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>>553617231
Azure Siegfried...Azure awakener...
could it be...?
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>>553617519
No... no it couldn't be...
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>>553616476
To-wifey!
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>>553617031
chat is this real?
no really is this an accurate representation of Kevin in Horizon?
>>553617263
ok what about the rest?
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Crows English dub actor isn’t fit to play a mysterious more edgy character like azure Siegfried. He probably was only casted for his funnier side
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>>553617652
You have to remember that the newer writers were the ones that made swin and Nadia so they like them a lot. Notice how every game they are in they have their own route
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this is such obvious samefagging
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AIEEEE TURN THE TRAIN BACK
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New bread?
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>>553617901
no I mean the other part about kevin
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>>553618109
Is Robbie Raymond a good Lloyd?
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>>553618343
I refuse. Let /fg/ sleep.
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>>553618359
Kevin doesn’t call ries because he doesn’t want her to be involved in his heretic hunt. He wants to “protect her” from his “darkness”. I don’t know lol. The problem with Kai is that it’s tooooo much set up. Like 80 percent of Kai is set up whereas other setup games like fc,cs1, and cs3 are like 50 percent set up
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>>553617951
this is my post
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>>553618446
I didn't get to meet him, I don't know...
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>>553618637
cs3 is 90% setup dont lie
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>>553618637
that sounds like what this post said >>553617031
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>>553618471
I'll do it then, even if you don't like it.
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Joshua? Me.
Kevin? Me.
Lloyd? Me.
Rean? Me.
Rufus? Me.
Van? Me.

All me.
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>>553619070
It never felt like 90 percent set up to me. I think that’s an exaggeration. It is a setup game though. Your learning a lot about Osbornes goal throughout each place you visit as well as getting backstories and character development for new class 7. Only ash and Musse are needed for cs4 for development. In Kai only a few like risette and Agnes got their development and even then it might not be over for them.

Even in cs3 we learn more about Reans backstory than vans so far. We learn more about the ironbloods to and their stuff
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awww~
I want a pet loli
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>>553619587
Yea Millium gets scenes because in the end of the game she gets killed
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>>553619687
pfff, if you think I'd believe anyone dies in this series you're wrong.
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>>553619770
well she does die but she gets revived in cs4
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