jon, the tub and shit are back>linksonejontwogames.comfinal sponsored thread: >>553541712
hot take I know but: POO2 2 WRETCHED POOPY BUTT STINK
poo 2 bad
the tub is the sink of joy
>OPFuck you, that made me laugh.
I like PoE2.
I think POE 2 has big potential, but not with the current design team.
>>553704925>PoE2 has potential if someone else made itSo it doesn't actually have potential.
I like Path of Exile 2.
>voluntarily plays SSF>"what the fuck??? why would they inflict the pain of this game mode on me???"why do retards do this
they should give life a health gate mechanic
It's fucking over for poop1
>>553705861>Has to cover up the downward trend 2 hasI know this is fake but he'd do that. Such HARD behaviour.
>>553705974poop1 = dead
>>553705015No, the sound and art departments are doing awesome work. Just the underlying systems are shit.
>>553706330the people who designed a lot of the underlying systems left the company in early 2025.interesting how the druid was in development hell for years until rory left. they delayed the class for a few more months, now people like ziz are calling it the best class in the history of arpgs. the jeet who designed all the unique items left the company. now we get foulborn unique and a dozen build enabling unique interactions.
poop 2 excremented
>supper...>my asthma!
New player, started about a week agoI feel so bad any time I die to something bullshit, like Candlemass spraying his shit in my face when I'm stuck in a slow animation, or the fucking engineer in act 2 slamming a dynamite in my face, that I've prolly made 15 different characters at this point because I can't stand the death counter telling me I fucked up.I'm already burning out because of my own self-imposed challenge, it's retarded I know, but I just can't bring myself to enjoy the game when it forces you to play like a total pussy or just eat shit 2-3 times every act.Most success I've had is with a mercenary, because the crossbow gameplay loop keeps you playing like a pussy by default, but even that char (my first one, ironically) died to the first boss, and now feels stained by the deathcounter.Can you guys reccomend me a build thats actually fun to play, while being as safe as possible, except summoner, I never play summoners.Also, just some general tips for a noob would be appriciated. I've tried going purely defensive in my passives to mitigate the deaths, but that just leads to death by attrition when I don't kill the bosses or whatever fast enough.>tl;dr: suck shit, don't want to die, please spoondfeed my retarded ass.
i'm not madi'm not jellyit's just pixels on the screen i don't care
>>553703884tubposter i kneel
Path of Tub 2? Absolute poopSTINKY
>>553706921NO NO NO THE DEVS WHO STONEWALLED GOOD THINGS WERE SOVL!!! CHRIS WILSON VETOING ASYNC TRADE FOR 15 YEARS WAS SOVL!!!!!!!!!!
>>553706992>safe+fun buildwell. CoC comet + spark bloodmage is the safest.It's fun when doing to for the first time.Alternatively roll a poisonburst pathfinder.Don't play anything melee if you want "safe" (barring some overgeared build)
big big smelly poo2
1 tub2 dead games1 dead general
>>553705974
>>553699005>ggg hasn't made a good fight since Uber Atziri and Uber Elder.I disagree because the Chrystal King exists. That's a fun fight and if the visibilyt isn't great, use flares to light up the arena. That helps to solve GGG's fixation on hard-to-see graphics. Also Sirus is a good fight especially back in the days of awakened 8 and 9 Sirus. The uber version is sad since it's merely a DPS check, though.
reminder that ggg made one good game on accident. poo2 is dogshit and made to look good, not play well.
2 dead eos poop games1 dead eos poop general
>>553708309poop1 sisters he can't say that!! he's raping us!!!
>he thinks hard arpg boss battles are "fun">stand in the glowy circle>now stand in the glowy circle at 3x speed!fun!
>>553708315poe1 content is what's dragging down the sequel. Abyss and temple feel great and level appropriate. I guarantee Temple's atlas tree will be much easier to get 8/8 in like abyss instead of requiring uber bosses for no reason.
why did Quin69 (biggest PoE streamer) stop playing PoE 2?
>>553708542>he thinks temple will be worth even speccing into next leaguejonny is going to rape temple
>>553708542temple rewards are antithetical to the design promises for poe2 made by GGG and should be massively scaled backsame with Abyss.
>>553708309talkative tri would never make such a SOFT post
>>553708726why did he stop playing poop1?
>still can't search for Undying Hate notables on the trade sitegay
>>553682630>poe1 crafting is absolute dogshit from needing encyclopedic knowledge regarding crafting to having to interact with a half dozen different sources (harvest, bestiary, recombinator, etc.) to trading for materials/item bases it's absolute dogshit...Nonsense. Most players do not need to do anything other than watch a YouTube video on how to craft where someone did all the thinking for them. All they have to do is follow instructions like they're following a lego instruction booklet. Then there's craftofexile that simulates the crafting process before one even begins to spend in-game currency; which still feels like cheating imo.
>>553708737retard
I hope GGG never ports WASD to PoE1 because you just know they're going to use it as an excuse to TUB all skills
>>553708309they should reduce poe1 leagues to twice a year, one small league and an expansion league. add a phrecia or dark shrines event to the small league and a gauntlet for the expansion league.
>>553708781>>553708726reactslop is zero effort and pays the same also, poop2 is dogshit and playing poo1 for 10+ years gets old
>>553708726His video shitting on Elon was a crossover hit and his visibility improved bigly, he no longer needs to play shitty niche games to have an audience
>lily's outfit today HOLY
>>553705861go to bed, talkativebi
We all agree that POE1 needs to stop dragging down the real game's development and be euthanized.
>>553709315this but PoE2
TWO GAMESONE OF THEM SUCKSTHE OTHER GAME SUCKSTHE GAMES SUCK
>>553709373this but poe1
ts_larry lmao
>>553709315"We all agree that POE1 needs to stop dragging down the real game's development and be euthanized."
>>553709571this but both gamesGGG should just become a support studio for EHG
>>553709826you are raped poop1troon
>>553710004post hand
Poo2ards are blissfully unaware that nobody in the PoE community ever thought of or even asked for 2.
>>553708726He was never one of us. None of them are. They not like us, Frogman.
>>553710116Jonathan and Mark clearly did They hate your game, sissy, and are killing it for my amusement
>>553710110you are raped cringe and btfo
>this is going to be the best thing to ever happen to PoE>Finally the combat feels slow and heavy
>>553710004you are brown, lol
>>553710485FEEL THE WEIGHT
>>553710485When you actually play 2 with shit gear you realize the combats not slow or heavy at all. It's fast and floaty. If you're melee the enemy will track you 360 degrees and constantly barrage attacks at you (and the only good defense is to block them). If you're ranged you'll slowly walk left and dodge literally everything.
uh oh poop1 melty
>>553710116maybe not, but everyone wanted PoE 1.5 HD with instant buyout trading. Getting off the website for trading, better grafix, and makng respecs viable was always big on the wishlist for players.
>>553710773SAAR PLEASE BE SHUTTING YOUR MOUTH REEDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM THE POOP2 OKAY?????? YOU BLOODY BANCHOD BITCHPREET
>lily wtf
>>553710773was it poe2 that wouldn't let you roll out of groups of mobs for the first week? It was right? This was all before sprint was around to fuck you over too.
>>553710827POE1 players have always been against instant buyouts
>>553710116the poe community did ask for it, and they got it. the rift comes from the fact that the poe1 community in 2017-18 isn't the same as the modern poe1 community.ggg realized this after 3.15 and they restructured the games accordingly. the people who love poe1 today would have a shitfit if they played a 2017 patch of the game.
>>553710975That's retarded. Nobody who plays after the second week wants forced online trades. Real players don't quit after the first 2 weeks btw.
>>553706992>I've tried going purely defensive in my passives to mitigate the deathsYou should actually do the opposite, you should go ape on damage, damage on the tree, damage on rings, damage on gloves, best weapons you can find and make.It's a very easy game that's very hard when you don't make optimal choices. You should maybe observe others a bit, watch some racer VODs.All your campaign issues are solvable just with picking different gems and supports, even if your gear is kinda shit. And there's the issue of learning to dodge and move evasively a bit, and time your attacks opportunistically so you're not using slow attacks when you're vulnerable. That comes with time.
>>553711063POE1 players in /poeg/ have repeatedly said async trade is bad and should be removed
>>553709252is that really a boy yes/no
The issue with PoE2 crafting has to do with the itemization. They basically took the itemization balance from modern PoE1 where you're expected to have perfect 6 mod items for them to actually be good. Of course they stripped out some of the complexity and took some different approaches with how it works but the balance is still quite similar. This is very different from early PoE1 where tri res and life was a god tier item. Balancing PoE2 itemization like this left it no room to grow basically. Abyss added some omens and instantly broke it wide open. Suddenly ground loot is worthless because it almost never rolls good enough to use when you have access to crafting and trade that can make those near perfect items.They should've aimed lower with the overall item power and amount of good affixes available on items. It's the 4th league in a game that isn't even 1.0 yet and we're hitting the roof of what items are capable with bunch of people crafting mirror tier shit. If they tune it down now people are going to scream. If they increase the ceiling the game's just going to break like PoE1 did.
>>553711157whatever it is it will never be a woman
>>553711129trade itself is bad
>>553710975The only person I knew that actually liked trading being cucked and thought nothing should be changed (this was before CE and async were even teased) isn't even playing the game anymore so that just tells me that no one who actually likes the game wants cucked trading.>>553711129/poeg/ is very irony poisoned so most of those were probably not even honest. The ones that were honest were simply retarded losers who wanted to invent something to feel good about, and the only thing they could come up with was "I can use a shitty trade system without bitching so I'm superior to people who bitch about it".
>>553711129So we have 1 man's opinion. Anything else? Logically being against buy orders just makes you a faggot spoilsport. Especially now that you don't need discord for bulk selling of currency thanks to AngeBae. Merchant tabs are god awful but now I feel like I really have my own store. It's sovlful going to other people's store chests and seeing what their niche is. People will often have an entire page dedicated to what you are buying so you can bulk out, or an entire page of the same type of staff with the same mods cause they play the same spec. Fuck you.
>>553711129Literally one RMTfag who got assblasted that he can't profit off the game anymore.
not gonna read all these indian posts but poe2 is kinda bad
both games should be balanced around SSF don't @me
>>553711129they are shitters who sold a handful of 5c items every league because they were the 1 in 50 people that didn't automatically respond with "this player is AFK."they didn't seem to mind the async currency trade system added in settlers league.
>>553708309He's right though. PoE1 support is a legacy product. GGG is keeping it alive because they're a nice company and they care about supporting their old man into his retirement years. But it's an old game. It feels old. It's clunky, it's not even remotely built for new players to get into, and I imagine it takes a lot of dev time and resources to give it new content because of how ancient its dev pipeline is. PoE1 should see a heavy reduction in dev resources until PoE2 is over the line and out for like a year. Get the remaining weapons in the game, release all the classes, and finish the fuckin campaign. Then we can talk about which game needs what in terms of live support.
>>553711547your temple?
>>553711636Nah, they should just have dedicated teams for each game instead of jumping back and forth like a bunch of retards.
>>553711636>it's not even remotely built for new players to get into,Good. Imagine unironically shilling for "accessibility".
I will not change my negative review until the game no longer has a price tag.
>>553711547I will > (You) instead. You're half right. SSF loot tables should be adjusted to compensate for the lack of trade. More crafting materials need to drop, mainly.
>poe1 is clunkynobody thinks this
I'm new to poe 2, I've played some poe 1 without getting too deep into it.I'm starting maps, I just finished the campaign, The issue I'm starting to notice is how fucking poopy and shitty ground loot is, I ended up just buying everything from the trade siteis it a me issue (not knowing crafting or some shit) or an everybody issue?
>>553711992
This Tri dude might just be the most retarded person you guys fellate. Moreso than Alk or Gog.
>>553711972sockets on gear is really cool but in practice juggling all that sucks and keeps you out of the action for way too long.
>>553711835Then PoE1 is for you, congrats. Play your legacy product like people are still playing Diablo 2 and let the other game be its own thing. >>553711818This is what I'm getting at though is they don't have dedicated teams because they can't handle updating both. Just pick one to prioritize (it should be PoE2 to get it out of EA) and fuckin ship it.
>>553711992ground loot doesn't get good until t15-16 maps, that you have used exalt orbs on to add mods, and then maybe corrupted with a vaal orb. You're looking for more pack size, rare/magic monsters, item rarity, and good tablets too. You can get decent loot with some abyss tablets early on, and splinters from all the events sell for a lot now.
>>553712157They have the people to work on both games, the problem is that GGG is run by a retard who thinks the most efficient way to do things is to shuffle people back and forth between different games instead of just telling 10 people to work on PoE1 full time
>>553710968It still doesn't let you do that. But yeah, it's the kind of game where tiny insects can suction cup up to your body feet and perfectly body block you even if they're stunned or whatever. There's zero weight, everything is a floating rock with equal heft.
>sprints>diesi-i didn't like that map anyways...
>>553711972>no wasd>janky animations from 2009>collision all over the place>no see if you want to stand still and attack with melee instead of awkwardly stutter stepping you have to hold down a separate key no there's no toggle it's just like that pleb >decade old UX/UI>gem socketing system that makes you build entirely around a single skill>campaign is disjointed and makes zero cohesive sense >zillions of tacked on old league mechanics developed for an entirely different version of the game >esoteric rituals for craftingYeah man smooth experience top to bottom.
>>553712604all this but unironically, literally and without all the faggy whining
>>553712316the problem is the people who play poe1 don't want the kind of work ggg do, no one wants 2-3 years of iteration while they figure out a new endgame system.
>>553712604>not a problem>not a problem>true in both games somehow>can be toggled>not a problem>not even true>not a problem>actually a good thing>only a problem for a retardYep, that's my PoE1
how many hundreds of hours until I understand enough about the game to start FUCKIN GAMBLING?!?!?
Am I crazy or is this post just brimming with some kind of passive aggressive energy and kind of uncomfortable to witness?
>>553712881>no one wants 2-3 years of iteration while they figure out a new endgame system.That's literally how PoE1 has been developed for the past 15 years though?
>>553713004This man never passes up an opportunity to exude serial killer energy.>Are you playing both?What kind of question is this?
>>553713004
>>553713001Zero. It's called exalt slamming.
>>553713004u scared lil gup?
>>553713094the reason poe2 is a standalone game is because there was a surge of new players in 2019-2020, those players had a meltdown over the harvest manifesto and expedition. they tried to spice it up in 3.28 by reworking breach and that turned out to be a disaster because people just want 3.24-3.27 scarab juiced breach.
>>553714051>they tried to spice it up in 3.28 by reworking breach and that turned out to be a disaster because people just want 3.24-3.27 scarab juiced breach.Yeah this is definitely the only reason why the new breach sucked. Yepyep
>>553712604holy fucking kinoexcept for the always use without moving which would be clunky if it was true but it isnt, theres a togglebtw the ui is betterin poe1 you can just hover over a skill in your hotbar to see its info, in poe2 you have to press g and look at it in the skill menu for some reason
>>553714051are you a time traveller? are they really reworking breach again in 3.28?
>>553714112ok, so what was the problem? keep in mind breach was a C-tier farm until 4 leagues ago when they giga buffed scarabs. almost no one ran it before then, it had shit density, they were slow as fuck, didn't drop anything, you couldn't fill your maps with breaches, you had to manually pick up splinters and click hands to open them.
>>553714845Breach just needed a buff to the rewardsThe mechanic itself was extremely satisfying after the recent splinter/hand changes and didn't need to be replaced by the absolute pile of dogshit that Jonathan put on our plates.
>>553713813A few threads ago someone called someone else "lil guptavius" and I keep thinking about that throughout the day and chortling inside.
>>553715853>someone called someone else "lil guptavius"GRUESOME
How to make deli worth doing? Should I just stick to Abyss?
>>553715560it was extremely satisfying for one patch 10 years after it was added to the game, and the satisfaction was because of a qol improvement that removed some clicking. and now the sky is falling because they temporarily changed the mechanic for a league. why would anyone think that poe1 players are hungry for changes to the game when this is how they react to change?
>>5537162564x paranoia, 1 mania. Or something like that.
So is double corrupting every map with the passive actually good or just sometimes?
lil trigup
>>553716546are you severely autistic? why do you keep making this post
>>553716884i have no idea but theres hardly anything else worth bothering with on the atlas
>>553716884It can be good but you can just end up downleveling maps which is gay, so probably better to just invest points into something that can't fuck you.
>>553717175how long are you retards going to demand changes that no one wants?
>>553716885I'd gup Tri's talk if you know what I mean
>>553717726fine, i will indulge you, suffering from crippling loneliness asperger retardbropoe1 players want good changesthe breach rework was a bad change and poe1 players didnt like it3.27.1 had 1 single good scarab change (torment) and poe1 players liked ityippie
nobody wants to hear this but PoE1 is a completely dead game because it's monumentally inaccessible to new players. You literally have to consult dozens of guides, get through at least 20 hours of complete dogshit campaign, all on the promise that the endgame is "so much better" or something, and then you have to learn 30 different league mechanic and crafting systems to actually get anywhere. its player base is completely set is stone and will only decrease every league going foward.poe2 on the other hand you can actually give an early access key to a friend and then can use the skill gems they are given to figure out a logical build, pick sensible passive tree nodes and defenses and get through the campaign and into maps with no issues, all without a guide. there's an actual future there.
>>553718338he knows
>>553718338>get through at least 20 hours of complete dogshit campaignHAHAHHAHAHA
>>553718338>its player base is completely set is stone and will only decrease every league going fowardwhy did it grow consistently for a decade until ggg abandoned the game?
if poe1 takes you 20 hours to do the campaign I don't even want to think how long it would take you to do the poop2 campaign
>Settlers hits a new peak CCU>GGG panics and halts development of PoE1 to try and force people to PooP2REALLY makes you think....
>>553718148all the good changes in poe1 happened by iterating through bad changes, if every change they make to poe1 is met with cries of sabotage then they really don't have much incentive to work through those bad design decisions.
>>553719134The poe2 campaign is faster for a brand new player than the poe1 campaign is.
>players tell devs they don't like when they do x>devs do x repeatedlyhmmmm I wonder if they're trying to sabotage the game?
>>553719539Genuine delusion. The only part of 1s campaign that you can argue isn't straightforward is the fireflies.
>>553719883even thats fine if you actually talk to the NPCs in town.
>>553719447>all the good changes in poe1 happened by iterating through bad changes communicating that a change is big shit is a vital part of this process. how else would ggg know that they need to keep working on it?
>>553719131>why did it grow consistently in complete absence of any meaningful arpg competition until a much better alternative was released???truly a mystery
>>553720308>CompetitionThat doesn't even make sense considering that (currently) both games are spaced between each other. It's not like with D4 or LE where it's up simultaneously.
>i want my loot grinder to not have any loot, because if it had any loot i'd get mad at some 16 hour session pulling streamer getting more of it than me with 3 jobs, 2 wives 16 kids and no timt poo2troons
>>553719883A genuine new player is going to spend hours doing shit like Heist, Delve, Bestiary, and Alva. You severely underestimate how much shit poe1 throws at new players that vets know to ignore
>>553720308Except the new game is also shrinking fast league after league, how do we explain that saar?
>>553720910Would they? Unless said new player is hellbent on not reading up on anything. I'd imagine most people would just leave it alone or watch a video about it first.
>>553721379arpg playerbase dying of a mix of dementia and aids
>>553721589What kind of fucking retard watches a video guide on what content they have to skip when they start up a brand new game?
>>553721819Path of Exile players. Both 1 and 2 btw.
>>553720910>A genuine new player is going to spend hours doing shit like Heist, Delve, Bestiary, and Alva.What's that have to do with campaign length?
>>553722135Those mechanics are all introduced during the campaign. To a new player, the "amount of time to the endgame" includes all of that.
>>553722135retard
>>553719134>if poe1 takes you 20 hours to do the campaignI'm talking about a brand new player, and yes it would take them 20 hours
>>553722686so how long would PoE2 take a brand new player?50 hours?
>>553722868If we take gamerdad's words at face value, actually double that.
genuinely in awe at the people who talk about the poe2 campaign like it's 20+ hoursunless you're dying multiple times every zone, you could full clear every zone in less time. So what the fuck is the issue?
>>553721746dont project and answer the question
>>553718338i don't remember posting this?
>>553719658players have no idea what they want. Listen to the players and you get Diablo 4.
>>553723490you already know the answer, you just don't like it. 0.1 was the early access launch, it was hype, people logged in. now its in early access, some people will play every league, some will play the odd league, some will wait for 1.0.
>>553722868The difference is the campaign in 2 is actually part of the game, not some dated dogshit you have to get through in order to start playing it
No one will say 100% for sure that lily is a boy what is the TRUTH?!
>>553724889listen to your heart
>>553724889If she was a boy would fuck her bussy? That's the only answer you need.
>>553724625>The difference is the campaign in 2 is actually part of the gameCould you elaborate on this point?What makes the campaign in PoE2 "part of the game" as opposed to PoE1's?
>>553725569the campaign bosses do their 20 second long rp in maps so it feels like youre still playing the dogshit campaign
>>553711047>3.15>restructed the games>the games>when they cut support gem damage in fucking half
>>553711047there's plenty of enjoyment to be had in poe1 but the lack of buyouts means I'm out.
>>553726084>the lack of buyoutswhat did she mean by this
>>553726162the currency exchange and async trading
>>553726272but those are in poe1...
>>553726272anon when was the last time you played the game lmao
>>553712345Shield charge should push packs of enemies in front of you as you charge through them, 2H mace should be able to wallsplat enemies and knock them into eachother.
>>553723196Anyone? Can someone post a split of act times so we can all better understand where the 20+ hour complaint is coming from?Or is this another episode of someone says some retarded shit that isn't true about the game and when confronted it's "oh I gave up halfway through act 1 because dying to draven for the 10th time was just tedious not hard"
does stampede still make you bounce off enemies
>>553706992>when I'm stuck in a slow animationYou can roll from almost? any animation. You're supposed to learn what the bosses do. If you want to stop dying you gotta git gud. Literal skill issue.Shield skills are traditionally pretty safe builds but there's a downside if your block bar gets filled you get knocked down. Early on damage is king though you do want some max life on gear or you'll be too squishy. Couple acts in res starts to become more valuable too. Freeze makes bosses pretty easy if you're using a strong freezing skill like Lunar Assault or whatever the frost rounds were called for crossbow.
>>553725853when did you start playing poe1?
>>553725569Not him, but the thing is that POE2 character progression systems start working and being relevant much earlier than it happens in POE1.POE1's campaign is incredibly easy and equipment and gem balance is very off. The items you equip almost don't matter, as long as you have a buckler for shield charging and random gear for sockets. As a result, even a first time player can find it trivial. An experienced player is gonna play it completely on autopilot, not really engaging with it.In POE2's campaign, gear does a lot more, and you can really tell the difference when you get an upgrade. In terms of itemization, you start "the real game" much earlier.On top of that, the POE2 campaign is simply prettier, and many of the bosses and encounters are just a lot cooler. You can't tell me fighting shitty Doedre 3 times somehow mogs Geonor, or even bosses that no one praises like The Executioner or Crowbell, but that are actually fun as fuck and feel good to kill. Importantly, they all actually have some HP compared to the damage you're expected to do, so you can either really struggle with them if your build is shit, or really tear them a new one if you put together something good and got good weapons.There are issues with the POE2 campaign, I don't think it's perfect, but I think my assessment is accurate and that it has some good things going for it. I love a lot of POE1 but the POE1 campaign is only defensible if you're drunk on nostalgia and not admitting your beloved game has flaws.
>>553726684i came back to poe2 like 2 weeks ago. I only played 1 season in 1 but did they really add this to both?
>>553710827>everyone wanted PoE 1.5 HDOnly retards wanted this. PoE1 killed itself years ago. GGG changing PoE2 to a standalone game was the best decision they've made.
i wont say which game won but its not poe1 or poe2
>>553727265>Shield skills are traditionally pretty safe builds but there's a downside if your block bar gets filled you get knocked down.I enjoyed doing shield builds until they made the "you cant roll but you get double stun threshold" into "you cant roll but you cant get light stunned" so it can't be taken with shield builds. Horrible change. Who the hell uses this now?
>>553719057the average new player could easily go over 20 hours when they don't know the quests or where to go or how the gem system works or what passives to take
>>553727743it really is crazy how hard diablo 2& 3(Reaper of Souls) won now that the dust has setted.
i hate boosts as much as the next guy and gal but if they offered a boost through the campaign of poe2 i'd pay itfuck i hate the campaign
>>553727743Fangs of asterkam open beta at the end of the month.Apparently two weeks away.DAY OF THE SHEERS SOON
>>553727410>season
>>553727380Geonor is literally the only good boss in PoE2 and even then he's only cool the first timeEvery other time he's just another shit boss with minutes of pointlessly time wasting RP nonsense.Also the fact that you had to bring in graphics and subjective "coolness" shows you have no real arguments.PoE2's campaign is needlessly bloated and heavily RNG based. Don't find a good weapon? Well guess you're fucked and going to struggle because lmao you have no recourse. Want to try out a new gem? Hope you have good RNG and get some skill gems to drop :) Oh you want that cool skill you saw in a video? Sorry, you only get access to it in the interludes when the campaign is already over :PPoE2 is a regression in every aspect.
poe2 campaign is only good if you leech xp in someones temple until you can equip temporalis
>>553727312roughly this time was peak poe1 and it got worse and worse every league after that t. started in closed beta
>>553727480>PoE1 killed itself years ago. no, the retarded playerbase did
>>553728131>Fangs of asterkam open beta at the end of the month.You better not be lying to me, anon.
>>553728468>https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/grim-misadventure-198-a-new-er-u-i/150562>We can’t wait to begin the next chapter of Grim Dawn with you next year with the release of Fangs of Asterkarn, but you can actually look forward to all of this much sooner. We expect to start the v1.3.0 public playtest in January.Uhhhhhh wait okay maybe I did lie. I assumed that meant 1.3.0 + fangs but maybe its not the new class and questlines/areas.
>>553728751
>>553728224>Geonor is literally the only good boss in PoE2 and even then he's only cool the first timeI like a bunch of them, and I like doing him every time (except in juiced citadels where he does too much damage for my shit builds so I die if I get clipped by a beam or some shit).>Also the fact that you had to bring in graphics and subjective "coolness" shows you have no real arguments.Graphics are a factor for a lot of people. Coolness is a simplified way to describe multiple concepts related to the art, visual, music and story aspects at once. You don't have to like it, I'm just telling you what people who like it like.I have no real arguments anyway, this isn't a debate, I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm giving you perspective.>PoE2's campaign is needlessly bloated and heavily RNG basedI agree there are some time-waster sections but we probably disagree on what "bloat" is, just based on my previous interactions with people who hate the POE2 campaign. I wouldn't shorten any zone other than Traitor's Passage in some layouts. I think all timewasting bits like having to go to town and talk to Una or having to visit Halani gates should be cut though, just let people sprint through it all if they want to.As for RNG, that's part of the appeal for me when it comes to items, it's controlled RNG where you are guaranteed to get some resources (gold, guaranteed drops, non-guaranteed drops, rare item drops) and you can pick how to use them.I agree with gem level requirements being unnecessarily obstructive and unfun, especially on every playthrough past the first, they should squish tiers.>PoE2 is a regression in every aspect.I don't think it's a regression in aspects I listed as good (items mattering, visuals, music, balance, bosses). There's a bit of regression in them forgetting "almost all dialogue is skippable" rule from POE1, I'll give you that.
hot bathtub paizuri by the queen of filth
>>553728131>>553728751Nigger, got me excited.
gd is good clean fun but only for a few days
>>553728308>Don't find a good weapon? Well guess you're fucked and going to struggle because lmao you have no recourse. You do have recourse through crafting. If you're actually using your resources, it would take lottery levels of luck to not have something decent. You're just a retarded post-3.0 poe1 baby that only knows how to get through the campaign when it's trivialized with a bench-crafted 3-link.
>>553729681nigga nobody is benchcrafting a 3 link in 2026
>>553729453I play GD for a week then get burnt out and play poe for a day feel absolutely miserable and that refreshes me for another week of GD.
BIG SHIT 2HUGE STINK
>>553729681lmao
>>553728308Well you're partly right. GGG is still at fault for listening to the playerbase which I do believe had a part in the ruining of PoE1.
>>553727312forgot about this absolute joke of a chart
>>553727312>Going up after they gutted the item edit league>No mention whatsoever of Delirium when clusters were addedRetarded chart.
rate these double corrupt mods
>>553731609Who the fuck reads all that.
Poop 2? Smelly smell
is there any way to make a foulborn item in pob without copying it from my stash/trade site?
>>553728751how come these faggots take forever
>>553731609>pen with no damage modsez unless the map has a DD rare
>>553732257you can click edit and type out the mods
>>553732257you can edit it but thats iti guess nobody felt like implementing a ui for it
>>553732370chris did an interview with the founder of the company awhile back. the guy is the developer version of this meme.
>6 T15 waystones so far in just this riftfeels so good
>>553732446>>553732592yea fuckers probably trying to wait and see if they go core, thanks
>>553732665>They go coreI hope so, I really did enjoy using Foulborn Uul-Netol's.
Haven't played in a week did they fix the league yet
>>553732891Tri genuinely killed the game.
>>553732850foulborn uniques were the only redeeming quality of the league. it would be a shame if they didnt go core. maybe not all but theres a lot of really cool ones like uul-netols kiss and choir
>>553733154Given that they put them in poe2 they probably liked the concept enough
>>553733154I liked the Foulborn Currency. Guaranteed t5 slams feels nice. Then again, I'm one of the few people who still does alt crafting.
>perfect augs are 5cdead league
my mom looks like divinia
>>553734312talkativetris private league unironically killed the league but its also dead
>>553734556>Kill trading altogether so everyone is forced into "ssf-lite"Truly <ourguy>
poo2? dead. killed. eviscerated. shat on.
>game is bleeding players every new leaguewhat's the gameplan here
>>553735025More private leagues.
Just got my first divine orb with this sorry excuse for a temple. It's over isn't it?
>>553735187you're doing great sweetie
>>553735187that's my little pogchamp
>>553735187temple for ants
Playin warrior in private league. Haven't beat act 4 yet. Just cruisin along. Gonna use Ancestral Cry. Smithin my weapon. Got me shield and me mallet. Life's good.
Temple complete!
>>553735487>warrior
>>553735187it hasn't even started
Finally farmed this shit. I was thinking about waiting to use it, but my next upgrade is 90 div minimum so... I guess I'll just do it now.
>>553736995>corrupted items cannot be instilledhaha.... love this game....
>>553737068retard
>>553734436Give us her number then
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3905675POE2 WON (AGAIN)
>>553735025As far as I can tell, it's to blame the good game for 2 not being very interesting.
>>553703884If Temple gets deleted next league the thing I'll miss the most from it is ez gold sustain. I don't wanna go back to Barren Atoll jail
>>553737473>Added user feedback on the Temple Map for if a room is completed or unreachable.>Fixed the maximum medallion check for couch co-op, preventing players from picking up medallions if the Temple owner has the maximum amount.HOLY FUCK THE LEAGUE IS SAVED
>>553737473LMAO POE1KEKS
>she's still playing one of the worst leagues ever for tinksBleak.
>>553738240nobody are doing this
>Fixed an issue where The Immured Fury wouldn't spawn.SELL FRACTURES. BEAR MARKET SOON. CRASHING THE ECONOMY. SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL
>>553738240im not playing keepers thougheverbeit.
>>553738737>tinksshe obviously didnt mean keepers
>All Quadrilla monster variants have been working out and now deal more damage.WEAREBACK
Nothingburger
>>553738737>n-no u!KWAB
I am over 2000 hours in and have never killed the maven I'm just too scared. I've tried a few times, but my hands start shaking and sweating and I just die. I play in leagues and in standard, though I've skipped this most recent league as I had stuff going on for most of the league.My current character is a level 98 RF Chieftain. I should be able to do this! But the thought of it even makes me shake. At this point, I am considering looking for a carry of some sort, though I've never done that and the thought makes me uneasy.Does anyone else have this issue? I want to experience what gameplay is like with 4 voidstones but I fear I never will. Does it make a big difference?
>>553737473keepers patchnotes be likeremoved wallsadded walls
>>553739503Then the next patch notes then adds an option to remove them. Keepers was such a trip.
>>553739414it's over, go play roblox
>>553739758The fact that they put so little effort into Keepers and then didn't even 2's endgame rework ready is just pathetic. What are these niGGGers even doing?
>poe1 3.27 is called bad because of no loot, but also because there's no aspirational endgame, in other words no reason to even bother farming for a strong character>poe2 0.4 has no aspirational endgame, but the temple rains divines and it's called the best league everso all they have to do to make a mechanic appealing is make it print currency for browns and rmters?
>>553739950they were working on sword animations for every class
>>553739973They learned this when Bestiary suddenly became remembered fondly after they buffed rare beast drops by some retarded 1000% or whatever it was
>>553739973the temple is aspirational endgame content while youre building ittakes like 100 hours to reach the maximum and the whole time both monster strength and loot drops increase did you even do the mechanic lil fella?
>>553739973But PoE still has aspirational content. Uber bosses, Voided maps, Delve, juiced T17's are content that need good/specialized builds to run. There's a month's worth of content in PoE while Poo 2 is a weekend game.
>Fixed a bug where some monsters inside the Vaal Temple were not receiving the intended amount of Monster EffectivenessKEKAROO
>>553741020keepers doesnt really have aspirational content in the sense that you keep getting rewarded for increasing the raw strength of your character. t17 scarab or box farm is a walk in the park with hh. the only really hard strats are variations of blight but not everyone wants to sit there for a few minutes as their pc disintegrates.there definitely is a lot of content that requires a specialized character though and i had a ton of fun making those characters this league. cant say the same for poe2 at all. not just because of the content in the game but also because builds are so limited. temporalis + blink + choir is the best build for literally everything in the game.
>>553741654what does that even mean? the vague wording suggests that monsters had more effectiveness than intended, but which? the scorpion in the green garrison room? everything?
HOLD ON TIGHT BOYS JESUS FUCK ME
>>553742010:)
why is the thread so slow Zzzz
>>553743050we are blasting in Second Wind Fate of the vaal (PL77825)
>>553743050This is going to be like this for 2 more months btw. You might get people posting about TLI and people seething about it. Them soft confirming 3.28 also disqualifies any Phrecia event too. Feel free to screenshot this when it's (never) proven wrong.
>>553743050Nothing to talk about it. The entertainment is laughing at people tubbed enough to still be playing.
>>553743050fast threads are not necessarily better threads.
>>553739414female (female) hands typed this
>>553743050because 4chan culture is spamming about player counts and dead/alive games you have to pick between two options>slow threador>fast thread, but it's all the seasonal niggers spamming steam charts to show how seasonal game 1 has more players than seasonal game 2 or vice versaits doomed to be this way forever as long as poe1 and 2 exist at the same time, and if jonathan decided to pull the plug on 1 it would probably still be that way even
>>553737473Glad I didn't buy a regalia yet, atziri will be way easier to farm now
>1 div = 0.8fgholy fuck what happened? temple just injected trillions of worthless divs into the market?
do you ever get the feeling that they slowly ramp up loot as it gets later into the patch?
>Immured fury fixedHoly shit dump your fractures go go go
>>553744387No, quite the opposite actually.
>>553744423I'm actually gonna log in and sell my fracture orbs
comparison is the thief of joy
>>553744570priced in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL8chWFuM-sI FOUGHT THE TUB(AND THE TUB WON)I FOUGHT THE TUB(AND THE TUB WON)I FOUGHT THE TUB(AND THE TUB WON)I FOUGHT THE TUB(AND THE TUB WON)
I can't wait for vaal temple to get cut next league
Ritual is worth crazy currency right now, even just rerolling splinters is so much at 2x each
>>553744947retard
DOWNWARD TRENDDOWNWARD TRENDDOWNWARD TRENDDOWNWARD TREND
>>553745081>still higher than any other poo2 league so farjonathan won
>>553745081but people say second wind will save 0.4...
H U G Efunny how they refuse to give any slots to pohx lmao
>>553745081Ban all private servers before it's too late!!
>>553745241I wonder if he's being honest since the numbers show it's steadily going down. Why increase the cap? Wouldn't this just outright kill the main league? What is the plan here?
>>553745241they literally gave out slots in the pohx league, you eternally self-victimising poo1bab
>>553745323you can see the cap
>>553745241even just enabling phrecia in the phox league would make it better
>>553745478they're gonna do a phrecia event in late feb when they announce the 3.28 delay
>>553745528>when they announce the 3.28 delayThey just did>Well there's going to be another delayThey just might.
>>553744318what the fuck is a fgbut also yes
>>553745646forum gold, from the d2jsp forum
>>553745713>dodge roll effect>sprintingwhat
>>553745170you mean other than 0.1? You mean it's still only 3% better than shit of the cunt after an emergency reset league?
>>553743050this is the new normal thanks to the retarded schedule of >poe1 league>poe2 league 1 month later>poe1 league 3 months later theres literally nothing to post about. the poe1 league is dead, the poe2 league is dead and there wont be a new poe1 league for another 2 months.
>>553743050Everyone's playing Chinklight
>>553745528they already announced that 3.28 will be in early march, theres no walking that back anymoretheyre saving phrecia for when they skip 3.29 to get back to alternating leagues every 2 months
>>553745170Jonathan won by proving that he can shit in his player's mouths and as long as it makes a tink sound when the turd drops, people like Fub will tell his audience it's some of the best chocolate he's ever tasted
>>553745713hahahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kVqxwUBmnuhh... sisters?
i'm using this and a mirror ring on my comet witch. What would be a better rare ring to mirror?
>>553745968>>553746208powunner seethe
>>553745981you don't ACTUALLY need more than a month to 40/40 a PoE1 league, do you? That really would be embarrassing anon
>>553745081And I'm free!Free falling!>>553746379Open wide, Jonathan's got some yummy treats for you.
>>553746248uhhhh sis...? the vid isnt available.
>>553746490elaborate
>>553746516uh oh poo1 sissy lost
>>553746538https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kVqxwUBmnooops
can any gigabrain explain what in the shit is going on in here? i'm trying to place a golem next to the smithy at the corner but it just wont let me (the planner says it does but it's actually fucking wrong)is it because the smithy is at level 3? i'm thinking about locking the golem + armoury, let the smithy rip and replace it
>>553746687Lost what? Most of the community and content creators agree that this league sucked. Even Tri had a moment of clarity before reverting back to being a bootlicking dicksucker.
