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Rangers edition

>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:
Snow-Sleeved Maiden, Alice - Until 1/27
Hunter Who Reads the Woods, Yrsa - Until 1/21

>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:
Summer Yeka and Summer Chloe - Until 2/3

>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:
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>Current Events/New Content:
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[New Abyss] Deepsnow Hinterlands
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https://wizardry.info/daphne/gacha_rates/ja/equipments.html

Previous thread: >>553629238
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Fuck it we ball
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>he didnt save his standard bones
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Wolfman quest

>>553885137
I saved mine. But it makes my two spare Rinnes and several mariannes from new years less special now that everyone can get her inherit.
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>>553885137
>Adv remain I and II
are they new bones? do old adventurer remain(no number) count?
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>>553885137
IM BRICKED
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>game is becoming f2p friendly with new pity system
n-no...stop it JD the gachacrowd will come...
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>>553885427
Old remains are #1, can be exchanged to #2 for free, contains a different set of legendaries plus saintess marianne.
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ah fuck they're split
i want abe and lana but i need alice dupes
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>>553885427
you can switch between them for FREE
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>>553885491
where?
>>553885137
150 marks is quite high, 100 would be more fair
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>Wana
Fuck, I got 2 spares from new years bones, now they are even more worthless.

>>553885579
Supposed to be a tab at the ruins.
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Standard bones now give exchange tokens and the gacha equips for the new permanent chars are in the exchange shop. F2poors can get a cuisinart now.
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...who the fuck asked for this?
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>I rolled 100 for wana rerun
LMAOOOOOOOO
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>>553885750
The three women(men) who use him.
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>>553885137
>pity Cusinart
Well isn't this something else, so the gacha gears are finally being trickled down.
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>>553885740
>>553885829
Just 9 months and 1350 marks to upgrade it.
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>the monthly exchange lineup reset contents may change

HOLD, gerard and cuisifart are bait
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>bunch of useless old garbage for using bones
This is the bait before they spring the double Legendary event
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can't wait for legendary crucible a decade from now
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Anonsam.....
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Shop bundles
>10 bones #2 - 980yen
>1 legend #2, 5 bones #2, 1200 gems - 6000yen
>20 bones #2, 1400 gems - 7000 yen
>1 legend #1, 1 legend #2, 5 bones #1, 5 bones #2, 2000 gems - 10000yen
>30 bones #2, 2000 gems - 10000yen
>50 bones #2, 2500 gems - 15000yen

>>553885878
Probably guild points and bounty exchange getting updated with #2's
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Holding for Adventurer's Remains III, II is a brick.
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>Red brick x2
>Rinne dupe
>Savia dupe
>No Wana
Gwos...
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hmmmmmmmmnyo i think nyot i will keep hoarding
*cleans anus with tongue*
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>Can actually get Rinne's inherit on all of my fighters now.
Everyone VILL become ninjer.
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>Release rangers with cool new spread attacks
>One month later, give moment of finality to every fighter
Did you enjoy your potato while she was relevant?
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>>553886612
>moment of finality
tell me more, never rolled granny ninja
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The wana + greedy marianne banner was the real bait.....
Oh well can't complain, got 3 wanas, 4 greedy mariannes and 2 mariannes from 66 pulls.
Now I can get more gerards to feed abenis and olive and some badly needed rinnes to also feed to olive and my melee.
More abenis to disc too.
Wish the bones included alt asha though.....
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>>553886612
She will always be relevant to my heart and penis
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>>553886612
but the nigger's potential inherit is better than Moment of Brick?
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Ranger honed book now works btw. +5 detect, aspd, accuracy.

>>553886773
Row skill spell.
Costs SP, damage based on attack. Pierces magic defense.
Somewhat wasted on Rinne because her attack stat on ninja is low. It is better on thief, letting her do about 1000 damage. I haven't inherited to any fighters but they should get similar numbers.
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Don't forget to collect your supplies.
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>>553887002
... What does honed book do on ninjas again?
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>>553887217
Immediately turning them back into I's.
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notice something?
also who gonna be on the III bones?
>>553887217
I still laugh on how granny ninja sound
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>>553885871
Cuisinart will be powercrept before anyone +15s it from that shop & hairpin is 100% there before anyone +20s it
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>>553885137
IT'S HAPPENING. I CAN DUMP MY BONES
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>>553887302
Probably just marianne pulling down the general rates.
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>>553885272
Bro who even uses Gerard
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>>553887482
HOLD. 150 marks for one spark isn't worth it yet.
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Saving all my bones until Adventurer's Remains III and Mark Shop II are released in 2027.
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>>553887786
>Adventurer's Remains III
who gonna be on them?
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>>553887482
DO NOT
SAVE FOR THE DOUBLE
THIS IS BAIT
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Can you exchange legendary bone I for bone II? Or just the regular bones?
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>>553888113
livana adam alter sheririnya shiou and idk galbadussy?
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Abenis's sword still has higher Def pen than anything 1H right? Could be a good weapon for DEFmaxxed Knight since you don't need more than 1 copy.
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Anyone have release order list of characters. I cant remember them all but seems they are doing their quests in order now. Benis shouldnt be too long from now since she was during the first new years of the game right? But I want to remember who is coming first and how many
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>Can't exchange legendary remains
Goddamn, Drecom, you stinky jews. Where you can even get new leg bones? Leg bone event? If yes then hold it until it shows up.
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>>553888216
ok i'll save....
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>>553888418
so you're telling me if i save for 2 more years i can get yuzunowmeowki's weapon for FREE?
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>>553888448
Presumably from guild point exchange but not until it updates next month.
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>>553887645
Yeah he's ass. Disc and unique sucks.
He's decent inherit fodder if you don't have tzalikman though. Probably better having thunderstrike inherits than having iarumas in your roster.
I guess having one D0 leveled is nice for dark type bosses?
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>>553888675
>8k for a near-guaranteed brick instead of 10 adv bones
Do not do this
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>>553888448
Go to the gacha, go to permanent banner, swap to bone 2 banner, click the bone with recycle icon at the bottom corner
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gerard sissies what does the quest look like?
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welcome to the guild tavern where legends are born
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>did 60 rolls of new bones
>only got two gerards and a saint marianne
Goddammit. Should've saved for the double leggo event.
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>>553887786
aboris,sheli,livana,aldric, alt adam, and shiou
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Yekaterina is speedy after this merge. No issues using the fresh summer alt as the base.
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>no leggo bone in the supplies
>basically just 7 standard pulls
DRECUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMM
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SAARS
I IMPLORE YOU
DO NOT REDEEM THE BONES
DO NOT REDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM
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>>553888675
I hope so, since I have 9k saved.
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>>553889261
143 more tokens and you get legendary
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>20 rolls
>Gerard and Red Brick
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>>553888418
>find gacha history page
>I somehow completely forgot how messed up the launch was and that Abenis was actually the first gacha legend after Gerald despite being two months after launch
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I WILL HOLD THE BONE TILL FAIRIES
I WILL NOT ROLL
I WILL D9 FAIRY DAY ONE
I WILL NOT ROLL
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>people thinking they're gonna get an easy wana
lol.lmao.
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>>553889640
i already have Wana(I prefer green lana)
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>>553889640
It took me 4 months for my first Adam and Lana, and 5 months to get my first Debra.
Legendaries aren't common until you start spending on every banner.
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The exchange goes away after 16 days, so (you) have to roll now
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>>553889963
retard
the shop resets, but you keep the currency
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>finally sparked Chink Alice bone, because JD decided to fuck me in the ass
>it has the worst merging bonuses imaginable
Ahahahaha
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>>553890183
Your NYalice is a str boon too?
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>>553890183
Mine was str dex and vit.
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what iv do I want for mages? iq or speed?
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>>553890930
Either is fine. Magic is easier to boost through equipment blessings than aspd is.
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>>553890930
what is your second class?
speed is the safest, IQ is good if you go caster
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>>553890930
If you care about Old Ruins / Foray rating, IQ over anything else at all times
Otherwise they're pretty even
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>>553891140
was asking for alice/yeka
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finally beat ass of the big ice wolf boss
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>went bankrupt from wana rerun
>now she's standard
nyo... I could have picked up the shortstack...
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>>553891230
speed is great at both but IQ is also good because they are dual casters
your choice
>>553891384
xaxaxa
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>nooo ooone has survived against meeeeeeeeee
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So which legendary pool is going to be used for the Raff CC bone next week?

Also, any news about the Gerard quest, anything cool?
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>>553891571
?
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>>553891048
>>553891192
>>553891421
I see thanks
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>>553891656
he visit jeans factory to get new pair
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>>553891679
Rinne's voiceline goes "meeeeeeeeeee" if you happen to turn off fast-forward
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No one has survived against BODIES like me
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>Beeeee weakened!
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>>553891656
im raising friendship on mine. but im sure some retard nip is doing it right now on 2chan or X or something
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>>553891656
you go to a cave of course
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>new pity system
Ok, but did they make it easier to get bones? Ive never felt more dried up when it comes to a gacha currency than in WizDaphne(tho i guess it makes sense here, considering how large Discipline bonuses are.
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He WON
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>>553891656
lmao
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>>553892170
yeah, do your bounties
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>>553892212
>He actually gets a new pair of jeans
WTF? I thought >>553891769 was joking.
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>>553892212
uhhhh dmc vibes
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>>553892170
You can get a good chunk of bones if you play but it requires way too much in my opinion. Gems I think the game has pretty generic output compared to other games I play. But there is really no point in using gems for generic banner bones
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>>553892212
he looks gayer now
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>>553892170
Reminder that you can get per month for free
>1 legendary and 5 normal bones from bounties
>10 class bones from crucible
>2 normal bones from supplies
>4 normal bones from bonepicker
>8 tallows(=4 class bones) from bonepicker and catacombs
>4 bones from weekly bone on b6f
>6 bones from A1
>1 bone from A2
>1 bone from A3
>4 bones from random weekly drop from chest
>1 class bone from request
>3 normal or class bones from guild tokens
>1 generic bone from tutorial
So you can get up 1 legendary, 45 class(15min) or normal and 1 generic bone monthly for free.
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>>553891679
https://vocaroo.com/170eS504pvHr
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>>553892637
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>>553892170
>dried up
But why? Unless you're new and didn't buy a starter, then sure
Otherwise you don't need to interact with gacha outside double lego event, everyone is weak compared to Lana/Alice/Yek, even Gerulf
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>>553885695
>skipped 5/6 of these characters
Feels good
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>>553890183
I still don't understand how merging bonuses work
I swear they're random
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>>553893428
They are.
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>saved up all the old remains since launch
>see new standards have been added
>finally a good time to use th-
>they're treated as regular adventurer bones 1#
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I think Yeka is ready for more kids.
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>>553893585
You can trade them for 2# bro...
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>>553893585
You can swap #1 for #2 or #2 for #1. You can't swap legendary remains though.
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>>553893585
Old Remains can't even roll Legendarys so what's the point?
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>>553893615
she already gave birth to 4 big headed babies her vagina is useless
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>>553892212
DONTE
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>>553893273
>Unless you're new and didn't buy a starter
Why tf would i give money to some indo-chinese mutt? I'm not some retard with more money than IQ.
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>>553893830
So you've only got nine bucks? Well good news, that's still enough
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>>553893615
yes
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>>553894204
Doctor looks fantastic here
Source
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BEHOLD,
ultimate jeans party
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>>553892212
Sorry, I had to do it
https://files.catbox.moe/y0ab6f.mp4
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>>553894361
>Alice+Lana frontline
The smartest Gerard user.
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>>553894620
KEK
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>>553894620
lmao
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>>553894620
I don't get it
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>>553892212
He's Indian sir?
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>>553895180
he kinda looks like Dante from the hit series Devil May Cry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qG4AlK1qk
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has anyone found some infinite bone exploit yet?
im assuming there is one because it's drecom and the switch between bone 1 and bone 2 is free
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>>553895693
there used to be daily bone and thief bone but its gone
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>>553895693
The infinite bone exploit is going back to the beginning dungeon warping forward 1 or 2 times then getting the bones that respawned there (weekly or monthly)
The go back to the pier at the second abyss to get the underwater bone there every month or so
Do the same with the catacombs (speaking of which I need to get my monthly bone from there later)
Do that for a few months and you're set
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>>553895693
every single exploit that is shared gets patched out by mr drecum
unshared ones too, but they just take longer to fix
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>>553895693
All I have is a teleport-across-the-map exploit I'm too afraid to ever use, especially in Foray
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Mommy I spent 100+ bones last week... What fucking headass decision is to update it after the NY patch.
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Where dem little fairies at
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>>553897067
Fairy bishop will included in the adventurer's remains #5 three years from now.
You can kill pixies right now in the alabaster cave.
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>>553897067
grasslands
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>>553897572
>>553897614
Thanks.
I had completely forgotten about Alabaster since it's a buggy piece of shit cave.
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so this is where u guys been! i was like eeeeeeh gwos doko are? glad to see u mata xD
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>all these swos wasting rinne dupes for some mediocre aoe
>when rinne alt is not even out yet
KWABOOTEY
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I don't think about Rinne at all.
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>>553899017
is rinne discipline worth it
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double leggo event when
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>people on discord using all their bones
i simply won't pull
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>>553893782
Just reverse her vagoo
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What's the play here?
I really want some Rinne/Savia disciplines, but should I hold until we get a +1 Legendaries event using Bones II?
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wait till eos swo
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Where do you guys check for bone picker? I've been doing Abyss 4 9 to 11 for 2 weeks and haven't seen the goblin once.
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>>553899384
Why are you using discord?
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>>553899764
Because I'm a transsexual furry.
Are you not one as well? What are you doing here
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>>553899710
i see the goblin in A4 floor 7 a lot
check the pier too
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>>553899850
Crawling dungeons.
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>>553899663
You can never go wrong holding the bag,
but speaking in realistic terms, we have a half anniversary event (1.5) in like, maybe 2 or 3 months? If a double legendary banner shows up, that would be the time, or 2nd anniversary event which is in like 10 months.
I haven't logged in yet, but i have no need for Rinne, Gerard, Wana (don't use Lana actively but i am building her on the side) so i won't pull right now and will just wait a week until thoughts and opinions gather. I have a Savia already.
The nip twitter is doing the same conundrum, as are other nip communities, so everyone has the same question, will the double leg banner return? A 'better' pool does not make me want to pull, but increased chances do.
Just because japanese are discussing something doesn't mean anything, Alice bug is the proof, and we got 500 gems for it or whatever. I want drecum to state if its happening or not, but they won't do that.
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>>553899764
NTA but I pop in to look at steal their strats occasionally.
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>>553899710
pier in port city
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>>553888113
me
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Can the same bondmate be attached to multiple adventurers? Like can I put Donald on both Chloe and Lana or if he's attached to 1 nobody else gets to use him.
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>>553900460
no
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YOOOOO this nigga wants his Donald to have his own harem like wtf
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>giving this fat bastard to all your girls
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>>553899897
>>553900230
Thanks. Where in the pier does he usually appear? Is there a specific spot I can autowalk to?
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>>553901130
Almost everywhere, he can also appear on the path leading to the previous area too
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>>553900823
>>553900946
He had to relive his son dying to goblins 5 times in a row, ugly bastard deserves some comfort.
Also that increasing the already fat SP pool on Chloe is too good to pass up on.
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>>553900946
>Not giving your white woman three dogs
ngmi
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I want an Ophelia alt, is that too much to ask for?
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I want class changes for generic adventurers
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Double lego event when, this new banner is tempting
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>>553902710
Be strong, don't waste your bones.
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The new coin exchange is permanent and resets monthly and remains II is a brick. Just keep holding until either a new legendary event or remains III.
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>>553903064
I want to disc my Benis ho
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Why are you gwos so autistic about hoarding resources in a video game? Just have fun instead of minmaxxing everything
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>Got 3 Rinne for 3 of my frontline fighters
I won, AOE problem no more farming is now a breeze.
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Are jarmil and dino memes? Am I better off just building one really good marianne as my wind mage?
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>>553903213
I'm not minmaxing, I'm just not wasting my limited resources on something that provides zero benefit to me.
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>>553903395
Just build who you like
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>>553903395
anyone who have thief class is a meme(outside fighter maybe and knights)
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>>553903519
I dont care about any of these adventurers, I care about minmaxxing and numbers growing bigger, thats why im asking
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>>553903395
Jarmil is based
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>>553903519
ughhhh
NO
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>>553903670
All kinds of numbers grow SUPER huge if you buy all the packages in the shop!
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>>553903395
Dino have detect on discipline so he can be pretty good thief(there are better), Otherwise he is good mage but not great, good as backup or dispatch fooder
Jarmil have Magic Power and Magic Def on def and have situational formation bonus, he is good mage but not great, good as backup or dispatch fooder
their thief class change do not make them any favours, in general you can treat them as single class mages
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>Entities count as flying enemies
>Gas Clouds don't
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>>553904613
They dont fly, they float
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Any viviana chest-slave builders, do you want an IQ boon on her to get her detect up since she gets disarm already? I have only ever gotten 5-6 point vivianas with luck boons so I havent felt like building her
>boon and BP don't really matter
I know but I also don't need her so urgently that I can't afford to wait for a good one one day
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>>553904613
>>553904676
Damn, he took the shit joke I was going to make.
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>>553904613
Having 7 children with Ophelia.
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Just rolled a no boon 8 BP Rinne. Where does she want her BP on? I still don't know how she works compared to other ninjas but apparently she's top tier.
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holy shit red brick sounds so fucking cool
>>553905245
Str
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>>553905245
There's no way people still consider her top tier in a world with Yuzu in it
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>>553906063
>rinne: hard working lady who dedicated all her time to her craft and died a virgin because of it
>yuzu: hard working woman who dedicated all her time to her craft(prostitute) and died because of it
i know what choice i'd make
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>>553907172
Why would you sell your vagina if you had a perfectly fine carm skill doing the work for you? She is confirmed hostess and high-class individual just by her clothing alone. To illustrate it better for cultureless niggers like you, Yuzu is the brothel mommy that is not opening her legs but makes others open their legs instead.
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>>553903395
You could run a mage marianne and a back mid priest yeka and you'll have double la spells once per fight.
I think I'm benching my marianne once I get an alt asha though. Witching mage asha's debuff chance is too good, HP disc (yeka has HP disc too) and has an easier time getting high disc because of her low value inherit.
If you don't need Laferu then Asha might be better.
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>>553903670
Marianne or Dino would be better then since you can feed Jarmils to them to level up their wind spell
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>>553907172
Rinne
>Has that kind of autism that makes her kill people for fun
>Probably cannot get any pleasure from sex
>Would hide in a pile of filth to murder people
>Sounds and smell like a chainsmoker
Yuzu
>Is probably good at sex
>Smells good and well groomed
>Will spoil you rotten
It's not even a competition
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>>553907596
all brothel mommies started out as prostitutes themselves
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>>553908307
>Sounds and smell like a chainsmoker
only because you play with english voices. her jp voice is very kawaii
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>>553908526
ask JD to make so you can change voices per character
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>>553905245
I think people prefer her as thief for bow MoF. BP should be STR since she actually does damage.
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eeeeeeerm you promeowsed nyontents today?? where nyontents????
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>>553908526
waaa sugoi onii-chan
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Look at this thick milf.
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>>553908312
Except Yuzu since she has her charm ability. Is this all you could come up with? Pathetic.
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This game could use more hags.
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>>553909841
Every playable character is hundreds of years old.
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got rinne dex boon. am i fucked? i want her to thief it and use 2H bows for her finality skill
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>>553910019
IVs quite literally do not matter
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>>553895693
>>553896035
abyss stuff is monthly. everything else is weekly >>553892590
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>>553904802
if you you want her to open chests then IQ or Dex is fine. I don't even know what boon mine is but she can open any chest. Master ring + Dex, IQ, Mel and Mudd bondmates + Bakesh and Jean inherits + detect/disarm relics + discipline.
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So, what are the sources of Bones 2?
I'm buying the 6$ pack but what else?
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>>553909910
Even Berk?
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>>553911201
converting farmed bone 1s
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>>553911281
How?
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>>553910019
dex is fine
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>>553911345
Nigga is you STUPID???
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>>553911514
No the update just came out and I'm too lazy to read.
I just saw a retarded bone 1 bone 2 update rather than just updating the main pool.
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>>553910147
But muh 1% stat increase is crucial for minmax autism!
They don't matter. Even 90 fort is negligible. You're not bricking your account, even if maybe you spent every resource changing all stats to EVA only to have it be useless and now you have to farm everything from the start, which still isn't a brick. Actual brick would probably be going out of your way to perma-kill all your adventurers, at which point you might as well stop playing.
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>>553911345
on the banner there's a button. just read the update.
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>>553893428
They apply randomly on that screen based on the level of the character being merged in, but if you look at the stats page pre and post merge, it then gets scaled to the level of the final character.
So you lose nothing by merging a level 1 character versus an actually leveled one.
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How Good Is Rinne?
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i am...rinne
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>>553912249
She's good enough that she bricked Gillion on release with her skill's existence.
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>>553911638
Gotta say, that is surprisingly f2p friendly of them. I was thinking they were gonna goy us out, and make bones 2 rarer. Still bought the pack to support them.
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>>553911601
Sure, 90 Fort has minimal gameplay impact.
But it has maximum impact on my sanity.
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>IVs do not matter
That's right fellow VIT BOON chads. Our characters are not bricked at all.
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Only 80 fort is a bricky brick, but it's so rare it's not a problem. Only idiots would get a 80 fort character.
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>>553913201
My yuzu is vit boon.... shes not bricked nyes?
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>>553894620
first good AI use in this general
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>>553914272
Yeah the extra vitality should really help her
My IQ boon Yuzu is also good for something
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>>553915095
The best part is that the VIT boon reduces her STR, which means she does less DPS, thus making her tankier because she does not trigger boss health thresholds as often
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>>553910147
They do. It's the difference between 80 and 100+ STR fighters at level 70.
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>>553915536
Oh no, a whole 40 Attack when everyone except your Ninjas should have close to 1000 attack with current gear.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfLoO6dzeQ8
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>>553916028
What does Aldric (Eng) say? "Nice snail done"?
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>>553911232
Somehow she is the only underage character we have
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>>553916236
I think he says:
"Nice! Nailed em!"
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>need one more Benis to get her to D3
>”It shouldn’t take that many bones to get just one copy right?”
>153 bones, 3 Red Bricks, 2 Wanas, 4 Jeansman, and one lesbian later
Haha…
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>>553916464
Aha, I see. Therefore you are a LWO (Lying Warped One), your comment is FAKE NEWS, and I have been crowned the victor in the battlefield of ideas once more.
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>>553916028
Eng is trying, but man, it's embarrassing when compared
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>>553916028
>Heinrico's face when
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It's the Cuisinart that good? I mean it's a 1H sword
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>>553916236
>>553916687
Sounds like Grimm, not Aldric.
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>>553917313
If your gear is strong enough it’s basically 3x500 damage versus 1x1200 damage.
But the tier upgrade system requires an absolute fuckload of fodder and gold, so keep that in mind.
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I actually like the EN dub because it reminds me of the wonky PS2 dubs, that and the graphics feel very nostalgic
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>>553917620
Livana screaming yes yes yes it's both cringe and hot
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>>553917186
By the usual low standards of EN dubs, most of the english voices are pretty good. Unfortunately I play with Rinne and Sheli, who might be some of the worst of the entire cast.
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>>553917775
elves just have really shitty EN dubs in general for some reason
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>>553917620
Yeah, the cringe/funny vibe is what its going for. Which is why rinne sounds like a woman got told make the most chingchong accent possible.
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>>553917723
That specific line made me switch to JP, its such a badly recorded line. Which is a shame because the rest of her EN voicelines are fine.
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>>553917514
How the hell do you get to 1,2k damage in the first place? You'd need like 40+ attack on every single piece of equipment
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>>553918032
How you like the KITA KITA KITA instead? I personally can't get enough
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honestly i expected worse from this whole new bone thing
being able to eventually get a d1 wana, maybe a benis and red brick inherit without having to spend potentially 18k gems from just boners
while still getting og legendaries from normal banners
quite exceptional for drecum
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>>553917620
>>553917865
it's called campy and i agree, i like it too
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hovl faggots, I'm sorry i didn't listen. I should have farmed and saved those bones, since launch. IT"S OVER
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>>553918362
I’m mostly interested which pool new banners will use.
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>>553918612
Hopefully not both
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>>553918612
well if they're consistent with whatever they're doing it's fair to assume now each banner will have 3 sub-banners, a purple one and 2 green ones for each pool
retarded choice would be to have both in the green pool
>which is honestly more likely but we'll see
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>>553915789
1000 attack? Teach me your ways Strongest Warped One!
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>>553910147
IV only matter for speed and luck, but speed is like one equipment line and luck is whalebaiting
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>>553919661
1k I can believe since I could get 800 with a +20 Silver 2H with my pretty decent gear, but 1,2k seems unbelievable to me currently unless the Alabaster Cave drops are way better than anything we ever had access to before
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>>553916028
Redbeard is so unhinged
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>>553920262
Wrong.
Luck is for true adventvrers, since the heart of adventuring and dungeon crawling is GAMBLING.
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>>553920658
>Luck boon
All in on Follow Up Attack / Counter Attack
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>>553920450
I guess with 5 star stuff you COULD get there but it's simply not realistic
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>>553920796
i thought offensive passive skills based on luck was bait

fighters would be launching skills and for any autoattacking content FUA and counterattack does not matter
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>>553920796
>>553920987
I might as well go all in on Luck memes with her since I already have Fighter Lana with pretty high discipline
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>>553920658
Fuggg :DD
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What does a good class ring look like? 20ish stats on the blessings?
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>>553920450
I don’t have my own Cusinart so I am dependent on whale/grind lord ojisans for info.
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The cyclopse stopped respawning again this update, just walked to GWO 3rd run for free after resting in town after the cyclopse kill
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Cuisinart?!?! More like CuisiFART, hah!
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all you gwos rejoicing about benis gotta roll more to upgrade her flashing strike passive for better damage caps
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>>553918193
I nut everytime I hear DOSSEII and see the 2k surety crit
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>>553924757
You mean 2k NON surety, right GWO?
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How much HP does 3rd Run ice pillar guy have?
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>>553925030
I'm in mid a3 gwo
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>>553925084
You mean the GWO? It's surprisingly not that much, like 15-20k would be my estimation
The wiki says there's something funky going on with his HP and his phases/counters, so he might have multiple healthbars so you can't make too much progress with one super hard hitting move, but that might be only for the last/true end version
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>>553925497
>so he might have multiple healthbars so you can't make too much progress with one super hard hitting move,
Wouldn’t surprise me, Helmut had this too at least at one point.
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I’ve finally reached enlightenment and realized class changes are a meme unless you actually want to use a character on that class since all of the important skills can be inherited anyway.
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>>553925497
I've seen a true GWO fight on twatter, based on raw damage alone, the guy did 53k total dmg and yet JP wiki states he has around 30k, they must have implemented break bars like fgo does, to prevent nuking from shiou etc
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>>553926079
... So what's the point of getting better gear/characters then?
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>>553926169
To be honest? once you defeat 3rd run GWO, you can safely hibernate until collab/A5, literally no reason to defeat true end unless you really want iris bondmate for some reason and getting the lore for ultimate spells etc
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I beat 3rd run GWO and tried roughly writing down his out of turn moves, obviously not 100% accurate but aslong as your damage is not too fast and you know when to hold it, he seems easy. I only had 2 fighters bonking him for 1.5k each on their turns, clarissa and ninja mc backline were both doing no damage, only thing MC did was finish off the ice pillars sometimes when one malefic by yek wasnt enough to kill them
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>>553926169
It lets you push phases faster and with more control so you have less risk of pushing when you don’t want to or burning through all your resources before the boss dies.
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>>553925856
With the event it's pretty worthwhile, getting an additional level of all those skills independent of inheritance level is pretty good for most classes
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>>553926629
The status and constant AoE damage made him pretty tough for me to deal with
My Flut can help with healing due to inherited Madios, but she doesn't have priest spells obviously, feels like you need two to be comfortable, with backline damage being kinda useless aside from AoE/Malefic Wind maybe even 3
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>>553926767
When you get them for “free”, it’s worth it yeah. But I shan’t be buying anymore 400 gem books.
And I wouldn’t really use it to determine which characters are better or which ones to use in your main full investment party. Still somewhat relevant for niche swap ins I suppose however.
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I captured all the adults instead of killing them and it said something about me tying them to some shack near the church. Can I actually go there after beating the gwo or is there anything more to it? Or is killing or capturing them the exact same
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>>553926982
I was admittedly running 1-2 pieces of resistance gear on everyone, had clarissa surrounded by elise and mc, wandering lana gets confusion res from her discipline so outside of one time where I got unlucky I had mabye 1 or 2 confusions at most . Since my ninja MC was doing no damage I was just using him to reilis away fear/confusion and to abit away any attack debuffs on my frontrow. Fight definitely seems made for double priest/mage since you really dont need all that much single target damage
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>>553925856
Depends on the class imo, having a Priest subclass unlocks a pretty wide skillset on your character
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>>553927679
what the fuck is that 10pull
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I thought I’d finally settled on my forever priest with Asha’s alt but it’s been bothering my autism really badly lately.
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>>553927015
You're correct, realistically the only class change you'd want and then swap back to your og is knight, because WoTK might save you from a oneshot, and even if the chance was only 1% higher per level it'd be still worth it.
The only other exception may be Alice with her turn buff applying on debuffs.
Everything else is minmax autism territory and you should only class change if you want that character on a new class.
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>>553927960
It’s where we tell him to explode for being a luckshitter.
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>>553927990
Whats been bothering your autism about her? I only use alice and mage yek as my priests but I want a proper 2nd one too
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>>553927015
You can achieve most benefits with inheritance, but the Priest/Mage combo really is very good compared to Priest/X or Mage/X
For Fighters there's some nice value in having Priest spells or Thief/Knight passives
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>>553928252
Regular Asha priest is no good because the tits are gone.
Alt Asha, the make up is too much and starting to bother me, also she looks particularly cold wearing a tattered dress in the frozen wasteland of Abyss 4.
This is advanced autism, I understand.
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>>553928467
(Elf in particular due to greater MP pool) Thief/Mage might see some decent gain from Dalto/Madalto, since Thief regular damage output is kind of low anyway, so if you can help freeze something faster I can envision something neat.
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Wanderer should get passives that lets it use class-locked skills so the masked man can make up for what he lacks in raw stats versus disciplined characters with sheer raw versatility.
I don’t like being the weakest character in my party gwos…
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>>553927397
The same, but killing all of them gets you a achievements
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Is the 4th run aka true ending kinda like 0 corruption guarda as in not really needed and borderline a whale fight? Or actually worth giving a try
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Alice leveled
Adam leveled
I guess it's time for Yekaterina
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>>553928252
I've been contemplating whether I bring up Sheli or Asha to replace my Flut for more serious content or bosses that require a second priest at least
I have a bunch of Asha's in storage, enough for disc 4 or 5 at least and that would give her chonky HP, whereas Sheli has her passive and higher MP from being a knife ear, I probably won't get her discipline that high any time soon though
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>>553917723
I like it because it reminds me of a dumb barbarian getting their combat fix in fantasy stories
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I ain't rolling til double legendaries.
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>>553930405
I think sheli is better for roundtrips and as a mage than as a priest
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>still no luck lantern from the witch hunt faction questz
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OMG LOOK AT ALL THESE BONER PACKS!
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>>553929996
It seems like you just bring 3 mage/priests and enough consumables to deal with a longer fight and it's not so bad, I'll attempt it with Alice P/M Yek M/P Asha M/P soon
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>>553930660
Eventually I might just train both and have one as Priest and the other as Mage
Marianne is another option, but her base inherit is stupidly useful
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Is this good from a FAS? Attack didn't change much.
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I need some help with bounties
I'm at rank 6 right now, the gorgon one is walling me from rank 7
even with Kinapic more often than not 3 people are getting stoned and it just snowballs if I have to clear 3 stones per turn
I can deal with the Minotaur depending on RNG
>said RNG is Lingering turn 1 and wether or not Shiou can get her delete move off before she gets hit again between FPS
The fairy for 80 tokens instead of 180 from the Minotaur is brainless since I can auto her but it's like 8 loading screens per kill
People suggest the scorpioness at rank 7 but having to deal with 2 having about the same HP as the Minotaur doesn't seem easier
what do?
I'd ideally like to get the jims and boners (6k tokens)
is 75 fairy kills my best bet until I can build a team of ninjas?
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The maps for a4 on the wiki are really bad. Trees arent shown, nullstones arent shown, whoever screenshotted those couldve done better
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>>553933504
Continue leveling/story until you can comfortably kill the scorpo ladies and then just farm them for a couple of days before reset
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>>553933797
There are multiple typos in abyss 4 guide too
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>>553933314
The attack rolls aren't great desu, at least accuracy stocks are way up this abyss and +19 on that is pretty good
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>>553933943
I just got my main shitters to 60, have done my first run of Guarda
the frontline has the recommended 120 evasion but the Minotaur just ignores it, does it work on the scorpion?
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>>553933504
Priest at 65 gets a skill that prevents status for a row, should make that Gorgon easy once you level that high
When I did the Gorgon back at 60 cap I just had some of the Petrify cure items on my team, had a fuckton of them lying around from A3
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>>553934198
Would you risk another FAS on it? I have 2 left and would still 1 more for the mage ring.
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>>553934403
They should be relatively free, just try to focus on getting them both somewhat weak, I think if one dies early the other gets a buff eventually and takes quadruple turns, eva stacking definitely works
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>>553934546
It's a questionable ring to begin with because of the DEF line and ACC instead of SUR, I don't even use mine
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>>553934546
It's a gamble, so I'd probably just take it as it is, change the def to more attack and level it
>>553934779
Acc is good to have now so after altering it's 4 useful lines + the strength bonus, after a lot of grinding I have a single Ring that gives comparable attack
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>>553930493
double bone legendary with adventurer remains 2 would go so hard
imagine an abenius or rinne highroll
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Was it autism?
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>>553935286
Attack instead of Sur?
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hm, my fierce fighter Flut has almost 100 MP, maybe I should get Malefic Wind and DALTO/MADALTO for her, could be useful in some situations.
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>>553927960
>>553928074
I didn't mean to send that, sorry. I just wanted summer Chloe
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>>553935875
Personally I don't value Surety much anymore because you need insane amounts for it to do anything against bosses or harder enemies and with the new fighter skills any regular enemies die to a 6 SP Earth Shattering Strike anyway without surety being necessary
So just more attack is the best option because it helps in pretty much all content in my experience
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formerly bricked GWO here >>552112151

i was locked onto upgraded helmut and looping the ending for 2 weeks, but whatever maint happened this week fixed it.
i didn't change any settings, nor contacted support
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Can I merge my Alices now?
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Hey! I'm not a farmer!
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>>553938804
that's why you're saving her and not raping and killing
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>>553914272
Holy bricked. As a boon takes stats from every other stat.
So when its something like vit, now you do less dmg from less str. Less dex for surety and acc.
Less speed for evasion and aspeed.
And less luck for a bit of most things.

Pretty much -3 across the board at 70 to boost up vit by 7. At least u get some res
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can someone help a regard out about boons
this is a fresh yekaterina, no visible IV and dumped 6 BP into speed

apparently you could see it on the class change screen, but the IV calculator in the OP shows the same statline. does this mean this yekat is not speed IV?
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>>553940886
>can someone help a regard out about boons
sure, ignore them and take your autism meds
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>>553940886
If it matches then its no iv or a hidden stat that isnt possible for a mage such as str.
Which also wont be active while mage
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For some reason I'm not getting the Witch Cave request anymore, I've tried a bunch of reset points and talked to Arna as well, but it just doesn't show up, anyone had a similar issue?
I'm currently after the third GWO battle, only done the Avarre line for A4 so far and have set A2/3 to Avarre as well
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>>553940517
>As a boon takes stats from every other stat.
No, it doesn't
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>>553941178
Yes it does your retarded.

A character has say 10stats total.
A boon wont just make you 11.
It will be 10 still but the stats will be redestributed.
Dont be a dunce
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>>553940886
thats a boonless yeka
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>>553941320
Go look at the collections of character stats on the JP wiki, it's incredibly obvious that it doesn't and it's just more stats. Either you're disinfo-anon or his parrot
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>>553941340
>boonless (true)
oh shit, thanks
any reason to take a boonless mage?
the only other viable yekat i have is a 6bp luck iv but now i'm getting confused about boons not taking weighed distribution from other stats apparently?
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>>553941456
Even better. I have my own lvl 60 units to show. 1 luck iv.
The other neutral.
Both 6 bp.
Both 3str 3iq.

But you can stay coping .
And this same shit is also on the very jp wiki. Your just too retarded to see
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>>553942241
And when they are both 70 instead of 60 the disparity will be higher
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I'm going all in on benis
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>>553942668
Good luck anon
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>>553942668
good luck to ur benis
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>>553942020
no a SPD boon mage will always be the best but you could also just from +10-1000 hours (depending on how good your gear is currently) to make up for the difference
a FAS item will always be superior to any boon you can get
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My Yekaterina? She has brick boon
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>>553942020
>any reason to take a boonless mage?
If you don't have many copies of a character you want to use that you want to have booned later, just use it without Disciplining/Inheriting/CCing it until you get a better copy or luck out with a good Merge base. Then all you will lose is the time it takes to re-level it and the tags if you use it as Disc/Inheritance fodder. Alternatively you can keep it to Dispatch
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is that nyontents i see in the distance?
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>>553942861
farm*
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Wait so I can basically spark wana now
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>>553943393
Yes, or you can save for probably abyss 5 or so when they come out with advbones 3. And get others.
By 4 yuzu would be in and you could buy out hairpins to make it 20
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>>553943393
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hmm maybe i'll do a cheeky 10 pull on summer yeka
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wana with base lana voice when
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>>553942241
>>553942471
You are mistaking the RNG spread on stat rolls for Boons doing something to it. One of your goobers low-rolled and it will balance out later
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>>553944773
Fighter Lana with Knight Lana skin
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Hello, legendary big titty female native priest????
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>>553944779
>also a supposed sample size of 2 but with no screenshots nor using same bp for both.
I accept that you just dont actually do any real research yourself.
In fact, i reckon your one of those niggers that argued and acted like a raging skeptic when people like myself explained the wolf boss and what not to do for days straight on release to not trigger it.
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>>553934682
>>553934412
Ok I went back filled with 4 scrapers and 3 ultra pots on everyone and won with the Gorgon
then I tried the Scorpion and holy fuck free-est bounty ever.
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>>553945728
>posts a sample size of 2
>criticizes a sample size of 2 from someone else
>won't actually point out where the wiki says what he thinks it says
>brings up wolf boss for some reason
My entire party and swaps are booned and no one is missing up to 7 stats in anything else compared to anyone else so I think you're a complete schizo, do continue because now I'm amused, we've really made it as a /vg/ General now
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do people alternate ess/poised or just spam ess?
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>>553946932
ESS for efficiency, Poised -> ESS for boss burn
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At 18k gems again
I am ready for collab and garbage
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>>553947960
>only 18k gems
I pray you get a mountain of Garbage.
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Is there anyway to prevent the boss wolf from doing the aoe 1000 damage blizzard attack. I know he does it if he has too many allies on field while frozen but even outside of that the fucker does it. And I cant reduce the damage enough
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do we know if Gerard's quest gives him anything like with Alice?
cause i want an actual reason to start using male characters again.
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The weekly b6 bone isn't appearing for me. Is it dead?
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>>553949465
It's not strictly 'weekly' it's more like 5 to 9 days
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>>553948806
He gets new pants
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>>553948806
I did the quest earlier and saw no changes other than visual sadly but it is also very easy to do
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>>553929996
I found it a lot more manageable once I dumped the knight and brought 3 mage/priests(you can even put them in the front row if needed), since there's so much shit to heal/AoE.
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Fun Fact!
The gacha gear from the new exchange is 3* minimum.
Get the Blade Croissant you were destined to have!
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>>553951016
Disclaimer: If you actually do this, they will drop a 2-hit 2H weapon with the next character and make you feel bad
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>>553951016
No it's not, I got a 2* croissant from it........
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>>553951016
Why would anon lie like this?
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>>553951478
JD here. This is not factual. And if by chance it was, next time will be different.
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>>553951016
shan't
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>>553951803
Because there are evil alignment masked men among us whose boners can only get hard when they’re spreading misinformation and malicious lies.
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>>553951016
>>553951478
>>553951807
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>>553952590
Why your stones so low
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>>553951925
But there is nothing harder than truth
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>roll wana from new bones
>now my lana has 728 HP
WTF lana is huge
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>>553953805
Disciplined knights have a lot of HP. Lana should still be a fighter though.
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>>553954012
she IS a fighter
not even with the hp bondmates, I could get her to almost 800 with bondmates
lana inflation
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Wait, don't tell me... If one of the adults runs away, I have to wheel back and start the entire thing over again? Surely, they can't be such giant assholes to pull this shit, surely...
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>>553954556
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>>553954556
>Surely, they can't be such giant assholes to pull this shit, surely...
There is even an achievement for coming back to it afterwards and doing exactly what it makes you feel like doing
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>>553951016
fun fact, even a 3* Cuisinart sucks nowadays
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so all you need for max affinity is just clearing both port and guarda with a specific faction?
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Does anyone have the screenshot of Lulu in Guarda telling you to walk into a trap and die or something along those lines?
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>>553955181
surely the pin won't be shit by next nyabyss right
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>>553956487
Cuisinart is still the weapon of choice for the grindgod/whalegods however.
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>>553953805
>>553954012
>>553954257
>no HP bondmates
>no HP inherits
Priest, D6.
>>553909603
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>>553957019
any reason why you aren't inheriting those things to make her even bigger with the 10% extra hp passive buff?
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>>553957584
Everybody else needs more health first. Yeka will get hers in time.
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What about this
Monster Hunter collab with Yuzu in Kirin armor
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>>553954556
Savor the risk
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>10 bp ophelia
>speed boon
do i let my intrusive thoughts win and speedmaxx for no reason?
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>>553959893
speed max her to take advantage of her evasion discipline even further. make her an evasion and counter knight
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cmon nigga. dont act like str rinne is good
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So Yuzu is virgin confirmed?
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Bwos...
My Yuzu can't open Guarda chests...
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>>553962670
Your Debra?
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Do you think for future banners they'll start using bone 2 rates instead of bone 1 rates, or are we going to be stuck getting random starter legendaries in banners forever?
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>>553964556
I wonder if you'll be able to choose which set of legendaries you can roll
I'd prefer it to everything being added together, and hypothetically, for veterans at least, standard pool 1 is gonna be pointless beyond shit like getting alice and debra skills to crazy levels on multiple characters
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KITA
KITA
KITA
DOSSEEEIIIII
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>>553964556
Banners are probably the mixed pool with 2% for the featured and 0.25% for the other twelve. Don't know whether they would add saintess or not.
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>>553964802
livlov
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>>553964802
YES
YES
YES
HHRRRRAAAAUUUGHHH
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>crack 100 bone the IIs
>3 benises
>2 Wanas
>1 gerard
>1 savia
>1 marianne

No red bricks or rinnes who I actually want the most lmao
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>>553969442
I did 100 too and got 1 wana 1 benis 1 beard
feels like I got shit but it's okay
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benis beard :DDD
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lets all love benis
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Theory: Benis alt and story quest will be on valentine.
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>>553972976
Benis quest but the alt will be Cupid Gerulf in a diaper.
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Bibi Easter killer rabbit alt.
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Did they give out FAS recently? Or did I get a bunch and not realize?
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>>553974317
I think they refunded any FAS/LAS used on silver equipment before the A4 release.
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>>553969827
>>553969442
I have 100 bones saved. I want to roll as you have, but don't you fear the possibility of a forthcoming double legendary banner?
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>>553975121
I don't know if Drecom is gonna do that again after implementing this shop, I think this is a good way for them to give a bonus without having to sit on your stash and wait for them to potentially maybe do something
If they do it again, oh well, but I doubt it will be any time soon, I just wanted a Wana dupe so I can finally use her
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>>553975121
i'm still holding on for double boner and 8% tales gacha
particularly for the 8% gacha if it goes by release orders it's like sheli livana arboris and random
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The Wiki is written so weirdly so I gotta ask, has anyone here gotten the Luck Guiding Light from the Admirals Faction for the Witch burning quest? The wiki made it sound like you'd get it guaranteed as long as you have done the previous abysses for the Admiral (which I had set in the wheel previously), but I didn't get it
Now the wiki mentions the witch being alive, but does it actually mean the Elf from the early parts of the quest? Because she was dead in my run, and I think it might have been because I took one trip too many (exited the cave after getting the gold ore)
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>>553979253
you have to get the perfect end on all of them if it's like the previous lantern
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>>553979342
Okay, is the witch staying alive and getting brought to the general the perfect end then, or can the elf survive as well?
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I'm going to roll 90 to kill the itch
Use it for a leg bone 2
Then save the rest for double legendary
Any questions?
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Is there a way to "unaccept" bounties? I unlocked bounties and accidentally accepted a bounty for the stupid rabbit in guarda and I'm new to this abyss and now every time I meet it, it kills my whole party and I basically lose massive amounts of fortitude or Flames of Awakening because I'm not high lvl enough yet to kill it.
It's really frustrating
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>>553981754
Fresh wheel and don't go to the bounty tab
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>>553981754
Bounty encounters are 100% flee rate. You can't abandon bounty quests but it will leave you alone until you re-enter the abyss.
Also, ursed wheel to before the bounty unlocks and it will clear any accepted bounties.

>>553980774
>Any questions?
But what if they give us a general fairy adventurer and you don't have enough bones for the 1% pull rate?
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>>553981982
Ossuary still exists
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>>553981927
>>553981982
Ah thanks, guess I have to reset through the wheel. Fleeing isn't an option because both add rabbits get to attack + the 2 turns of the bounty rabbit target and they mostly oneshot everyone in the frontline.
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>>553982114
>fairy added to ossuary in 2028
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>>553982249
>Fairy added in 2028
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How tf are they going to add Lord and Bishop to this game when class changes are a thing
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>>553983378
By adding them like any other class.
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is the jump from heavy attack 3 to 5 that significant? Or am I better off getting HA3 on 2 different fighters
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Is the Knight Ring any good?
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Is there a chance they nerfed Nether Hour junk in guarda?
I swear farming here was once way easier and now every enemy just drops fortress junk
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>>553983378
An advanced priest would have AOE status heal on their lvl 1 skills.
An advanced fighter/priest would have 100% piety and strength growths like how the ranger has >90% dex growth
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>>553983678
HA who?
t. ESS and PAOS
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>>553983378
Lord is probably gonna be a buffed up wanderer.
Maybe bishop can have a repel weak enemies gimmick, making them core for backtracking or something. they could also just cripple the attack stat on bishops and make them powerful div casters.
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>>553983930
>a buffed up wanderer
That's Fighter.
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>>553983919
I'm still in a3 in my early 50s, have like 4 gandolfos and I'm not sure where to dump them.
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>>553983679
For Lion, yes, for anyone else, no.
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>>553984125
HA goes on fighter/thieves when they CC to thief. Otherwise, just hold onto the extra copies.
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>>553984056
wanderer has .2 more magic and div than fighter does
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>>553984504
My Lord...
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>found out my s.yeka is dex iv
lol
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>>553984626
>expert milf handjobs
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Going from 110 Trap Disarm to 124 made a way bigger difference than I expected.
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>>553983678
My one questionable usecase for HA5 is that it's a decentish single target attack against high defense enemies if your MC is reclassed to Ninja
For Fighters the new skills are just straight up better than Heavy Attack in most cases, the Accuracy is the only thing giving it a possible use now and I'm not sure how significant it actually is
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when is it worth picking a ninjato over dagger?
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>>553986475
The new silver tier one actually has pretty respectable attack, it might be pretty decent for Rinne using her skill, but for other ninja stuff (including evasion which is shit now) having two daggers is probably better, more chances to trigger crits and overall more stats too if you have two decent daggers
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>>553986475
if you're not in A4 you could give them one to dodge tank in the front I guess, probably covert on a harder fight, and when you get it unending spam on trash
realistically I don't think it would beat the DW options for ninja unless the passive from the new trinket is stronger than I know and 4* beclouded actually exists
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>>553986475
ninjato bros we'll get our time soon
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>>553986475
enemy with really high defense, but at that point you might as well just switch to/in a fighter.
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i got jealous of an anon's yekaterina so i yoloed one starter for fun and got 7 summer yekaterinas in 110 pulls (8th was jeweler exchange)
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lulunarde's feet
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>>553983930
I see Lord leaning a bit more into paladin type theming that mashing Fighter and Priest together typically results in these days, and basically taking Fighter or Knight, giving it better general HP and SP pools like how Thief > Ninja does, a lot bigger MP Pool, sprinkle in a couple of "unique" spells, and add some slight anti-undead stuff.
After that it depends on whether they use Knight or Fighter as the basic template for it.
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does anyone know why the abyss 2 bone is not respawning?
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>>553988150
wheel to all aboard
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Should i be extracting my bronze rings/ other low gear?
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>>553987295
Enjoy. Yekabest
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>>553988319
doesn't seem to work maybe I got it before?
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>>553989045
it think it's on a slightly different timer. you can try wheeling to fresh start first and trying again, that's what i do monthly when collecting them all, or you collected it at a different time and cooldown is different for you.
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>>553988450
the alter/refine stones no longer take up space,
1-2* weak stat, mdef, res, div
vendor
1-4* good stat, str, acc, sur, aspd
extract
3-4* any stat,
extract so you can refine all stats when you have a halfway decent piece
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So as a new player i should focus on remains I, not II?
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>>553990131
Arguably, it's a better range of units
But as always, roll for and use who you want
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how much does benis flutter improve by taking it from level 1 to level 3?
i got 2 extra copies and unsure if i should disc or improve the free damage passive
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>>553988150
I have no clue how to consistently respawn Abyss 2 chests still, I end up just doing a bad ending and dying, then Wheeling to Watery Obstacle to force it because a JP with the same problem said to and it works
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>>553990371
flutter will always be relevant, so I'd lean leveling it
lv3 consistently kills smaller enemies in a4
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>>553990371
Since she's in a standard pool now I'd always Disc copies if you're going to actually use her
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>>553990371
I would use exp codices for the skill over dupes(if it's worth it)
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>>553990371
Damage goes from around precision strike 1 to DTS 1. Reliably 1 shots everything and is great for SP recovery so she's a good one to inherit rinne into.
I used scrolls to level my flutter to 3 since having a D3-6 benis is a lot more valuable imo since it's 25% confuse and charm tol at D1 and goes up by 5% per level. +10 AP and 35% tol at D3, +20 AP and 50% at D6.
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>>553989529
>>553990554
>Wheeling to Watery Obstacle
oh that worked no need to get a bad ending for me though
thanks for the help
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>>553990131
I think it was a pretty good addition desu
way better than just adding them to the same pool
I think 2 has objectively the cooler cast of characters,
roll an alice for each of your m/p unless you're using alice(you should stick with 1 to roll more alice if this is the case)
and then just roll w/e has the legendaries you want
while I say roll 1 for alice I have also gotten more Gerulf than anything, and he is probably one of the weaker inherits, admittedly I ended up killing the frozen wolf boss with lana using it but I didn't need a dozen for that
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straight up reversing it in the abyss
and by it, I mean
my beanits :DD
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>>553990994
Knotted
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>got a second Gerard
Well, i did say i was considering using a Knight.
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>>553992440
Get that dark soul filled with light
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>>553990131
From a new player perspective I think the I remains are more universally useful, mostly because Alice (and to a lesser extent Adam and Yeka) are great inherits you might want on a bunch of units and pretty much all of them are viable to use on their own as well
Gerulf and Debra have somewhat questionable class combos, but unless they change drop pools on future banners these are still the legendaries you'll most likely get random dupes for while rolling for other stuff
The new bones have two questionable Knights, Abenius who's good but imo worse than Fighter Lana, Rinne who's a decent inherit now, but a worse Ninja than Yuzu or high discipline Kiriha, and finally Red Beard who has a good buff you can use with him or inherit
So overall I think the first set of bones is better mainly because of the 3 Mage/Priest legendaries that still hold up in terms of usage and inherits, unless you want to use one of the II characters in your party their dupes don't offer much for the most part
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gerard hot hours
DO NOT PULL
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>>553992901
I haven't checked, does new limited banners use the I or II table? newcuties would be wise to focus on whatever's not dropping there maybe
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>>553993116
The currently running banners still use the I table since II was just added today, we'll have to see if future banner change that up or not
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I think Gerard is actually pretty cool, but he's lacking anything to make him stand out to make him worth investing in over the pretty cool general adventurers.
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>>553993009
FUCK DO NOT PULL, I REPEAT DO. NOT. FUCKING. PULL AHHHHHHHHH
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>>553993436
>>553990994
>>553992682
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So when do i get the Fluorescent Flower Delivery? I'm pretty sure i finished it on my first play through and killed the mimic. This might've been after albano turning on the first playthrough. I still didn't get the quest even when i reached B7F and he turned into a warped to only become human again to die. I never had the dialog with his uncle.
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for the mausoleum, only the crucible resets? o
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>>553995708
Albano's quest is at the B4 harken. You go get the letter, show it to Albano, then talk to the uncle again.
You also have to pick the dialogue option after the ents on B2.
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>>553997035
Damn, Do i really need to replay through the rest of the floors to get his cutscene then? I don't even see it as a option to save him in the cursed wheel. I just did the sacred shield repair. I should be good not to do any of the quest again if i start from a point from before right? Just save him then hop to the warped scene with the shield delivered right?
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>>553998357
You probably just have to replay the 2nd half of B4 from the cursed wheel and do the quest, then you can jump back to warped scene.
You need "offered a trade" on the B2 branch first though.
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>>553999208
That's what i did but i think there's additional dialog saying that it fails for the trade and the cursed wheel says i offered him the trade. I might just fight the boss and see what happens since i've spent and extra hour dealing with this. I don't have him as a bondmate so it isn't completed
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>>554000424
The trade is supposed to fail. When I was trying to save Albano, the part I messed up was that I didn't talk to the uncle a second time to get the quest.
>Reach A4 harken
>Go to town, get letter from uncle so that Albano gets excluded from expedition
>Show Dylnahart/Albano the letter, Albano refuses to leave
>Have to tell uncle about this, get a new quest
Once the quest is done, Albano is sane and won't turn into a warped one.
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>>553992901
Debra is solid knight and decent(but not must have)inherit on SP classes
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>>553988150
monthly reset
use
https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/tools/tracker/
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>>553999236
Bad gyal, white don dada
Rude boy, it's a white elf summer
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>>554002604
kek
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apparently a gook tried to start a nude mod, but N-protect was way too much and he gave up
itll never happen
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>>554003638
BASED Negro-Protector
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>>554003638
Did he at least figure out how to force AA first?
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we dead?
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>>554009949
Im grinding bounties..
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I'm not so sure about the second standard pool.
Abenis and Rinne could be fun to get more dupes, Wana is okay, but Gerardo, Savia and Red Brick suck.
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>>554011265
I think it sucks, it's only good for 2 Wanas and a Red Brick to inherit then you're better off D9ing everyone on the 1st banner and throwing Debra and Adam Inherits around to become more sustainable and survivable
Glad they didn't brick everyone with one diluted banner
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>>554011265
>Red Brick
Still no learnable ATK buff so he's good to cannibalize for your priests.
>Savia
Might be usable on a ninja to make a dodge tank.
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>>554011265
The fact that you can now skill up Red brick's buff (without wasting codex) for your Alice is huge. Gerard and Savia are brick though that's true. But holy shit Savia's tummy game on her Thief cc is something else.
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The naming restrictions are retarded, how is a normal ass name like 'Clint' considered inappropriate language.
Can't even name my generic dwarf 'Gimli'
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I am a Saviapilled F!Masketta
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>>554012694
Easy access for belly rubs
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I rarely use Red Brick's buff because it's tainted by RES part, buff limit is just SAD
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>>554014241
Not hard to red brick into macaldia deleting the res
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>>553916028
Sasuga, masketta-san!
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>>553916028
>weeb version
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I feel like a shitter, gotta level to 70 to beat the stupid wolf boss
fucks me up every time with his linked howl, even with a knight
I'm not even dying to the glacial storm but just the huge amounts of wolves he summons just slowly kill the frontline over and over
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>>554021015
I did it with some characters under 70. I brought 2 fire mages so I could spam Lahalito when needed + plenty of Inferno scrolls. Brought some Mana potion but there wasn't really necessary. You can also get some all attack scrolls from A1 post request against demon. 3rd mage would probably make control of wolves more easy.
Anyway that fucker always when he was close to death did freeze+glacial storm even when he wasn't buffed, frozen and with no wolves. So when he is close to death def+knight defense(or cortu if its magic and physical attack) help. He wiped me few times till his attack only killed two and I could finish him up. Battliegrief or sleep help.
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>>554021015
Stock up on a bunch of scrolls of the inferno.
Being frozen should occur naturally and give you a ton of damage resistance to cope with the wolves, then just spam the scrolls and any la~ spells your mages have.
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post your camping party right now
>also berka putting her feet on Ashe skirt
lmao
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>>554023224
I wish i had Berka
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>hear the strat for abyss 3 is stacking evasion
>throw together a mishmash of ebonsteel, steel and random beastskin to get around 110+ eva on frontliners
>backline mage/priests on acc/eva buff and debuff duty
>todays harken blessing has an evasion buff
Just beat necrocore and this feels like cheating so far
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>>554024087
enjoy when it last
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>>554024087
Does Abyss 3 get harder after floor 7 or something? Because so far it was pretty chill even with my shitty gear.
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>wheeling to end of a4 lets u just instantly get gold for the royal knight quest
is this an oversight?
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>>554026137
nyes, your account is now put on gerulf only list
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>>554024816
Not that much, difficulty hails from the layout and the sentries for the most part
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got red brick and 2 rinneswith the 12 bones i had left, fed red brick to alice and rinne to (me)
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>Abyss 1
Very well structured story with many great flags, cool enemies and many side quests
>abyss 2
Boring story with somewhat nice lore but arena was cool, I hate lizards, nicest side quests tho even if going through the dungeon is a bore
>abyss 3
Ok plot, side quests forgettable, best GWO design so far. Dungeon design was great and decently fun to go through multiple times unlike 2
>abyss 4
After last two abysses it has far more interesting story but holy shit I want to rape the dungeon and enemy designer almost as badly as Iris albeit for obviously different reasons
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Why can I not use my Bone Tallow?
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>>554027728
>arena was cool
are you out of your mind?
arena is the biggest piece of dogshit, ever
if you go in blind you will lose fortitude by the gallons because of the retarded forced losses
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>>554027880
>can use it in the class mausoleums
Wait, you can't use it in the Crucible? Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>554028474
Yeah it's meant to restock the floors that don't naturally restock. You can use it to target farm a single character.
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i deserve more nyontents
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>>554028470
Yeah I agree on the mandatory fort losses are shit and they should fix it. NTA but I think I was lucky and only got the MC killed, so it wasn't so bad and I liked the idea.
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>>554029854
man fuck the fort loss, it was the GOLD loss that was absolutely crippling.
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>>554027728
>abyss1
same
>Abyss2
same
>abyss 3
I kinda like the shitty minigames and the story feeling like, Oh no, the villain got away again it motivated me enough to keep playing. If A5 is half as dungeony as guarda I'll be very happy.
>4
It's heavily reliant on atmosphere, and story. The dungeon itself is dogshit with barely any challenge, the gwo is one of the most boring and obnoxious bosses they've made and feels like a shitty mashup of other bosses. I feel like they didn't do enough with grasslands, both to expand it and make it feel alive.
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>>554027728
Abyss 2 was just straight up filler. It was obvious they put all their effort into Beginning Abyss and only made port town because they needed an endgame area.
Abyss 3 was great but holy shit does it take forever to get all endings. I do like how the best ending is a superboss by itself. The dungeon design was cool to go through the first time but is absolute cancer for farming.
Haven't beaten Abyss 4 yet but so far it seems good and the farming isn't nearly as bad. Enemy density is almost as thick as Abyss 2 though.
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>>554024816
Some of the upper floor enemies like vampires can be harder than the lower floor stuff, but not to an insane degree
The boss gets harder on low/no corruption, but the 2H buffs have made it way easier to get enough damage to deal with him
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>>554031710
Basic enemies also get harder with low/no corruption. There is a chance of seeing cyclops outside of sentries for example
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I’ve liked all of the abysses so far besides the Arena and trying to do anything that wasn’t actually clearing the Abyss in Guarda.
Chests were AIDs, affection trap is the most cancerous thing they’ve ever implemented, and the layout of the fortress itself didn’t lend itself to farming loops.
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Does anyone have the image with the new skills for each class?
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nyontents aren't real
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Unironically, where is my new kill 40x3 mission pass dricum ?
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Are the bunny* thieves only in the grasslands?

*fox
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New manga chapter is out btw
https://drecom-media.jp/viewer/e/792
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>>554034949
Albanobros…
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>>554034949
by december they should have reached the scorpion lady on b5f
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>>554034949
is nobody translating this shit?
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>>554036051
hE's LItErALly mE !
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Gillion would be the best knight in the game aesthetically if he could be one.
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gillion priest cc confirmed
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I hope Albano makes a cameo in the next Abyss.
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>>554036290
There's a transcript in the discord but there's no scanlations.
Yes I realize how gay it is to have the transcript in a sticky in a random discord server where it will inevitably disappear. Not my fault I didn't do it.
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What accuracy does potato need to actually do damage? 350?
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>>554038659
peruvian dwarves...
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>>554036051
>>554036374
swos...
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>>554036930
A knight that self harms? No thanks. Thief or Ninja would be better.
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>>554039827
He has to still have his helmet after class change so I cant see anything except knight, sorry. Unless they go extra mile with a hood+mask he pulls off
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>>554039827
The aesthetics alone would be worth it.
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here's your gillion mage cc gwo
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>>554034949
Where are all the translated chapters?
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what are you playing while waiting for nyontents?
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>>554042790
Right now, Tainted Grail.
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>>554042790
I'm playing Wizardry Variants Daphne. Cool game, you might have heard of it.
There's a bunch of things I need to go back to that I didn't do when it was new, especially some of the content that was hard at the time like A3 true end, and some other faction quests. There's plenty to do, but unlike some other gwo's I don't blaze through everything in a few days then spend the rest of my time posting about nyontents.
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>>554042790
Ar Tonelico while autoing alabaster den 1f on the other screen.
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>>554042790
Baten Kaitos undub on emu with the HD graphics pack. After that Natural Doctrine on ps3 emu.
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>>554042790
I'm watching markiplier, he's playing garden of banban 9!!!
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>>554045282
>Natural Doctrine
Huh, never seen that one before. Not bad looking might try it out.
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What does she mean by this?
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>>554045826
It flew under my radar as well. Kinda shameful since i pretty much played every nip srpg there is. People say the game is quite challenging so im looking forward to it.
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I played Natural Doctrine for about 3 hours when it came out, the game is a mess and rape in ass.
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Is the level 60 Armsmaster trait bad for Galbados? It gives ASPD.
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>>554046636
All. the. way.
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>>554048382
Aspd is still good on knights. He isn't going to be outspeeding your fighters unless he is also spd boon and 10 spd bp.
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isn't abenius pretty gud as a fighter base for exploring
>inherit debra and rinne
>flutterdream flash kill with a 2H for +2 sp (it target weak mobs)
>Mark of Finality clear out other trash mobs for another +2 sp recovery
>get moar SP for killing any leftover big mobs

MOF lv1 only takes 11 sp total as a phys AOE skill for fulfilling conditionals and goes down 2 more SP for every blessing of the beast god level... thoughts?
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Is it worth doing the composite reinforce on this axe with the free silver ingot?
It was basically a god roll on substats but its only steel...
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>>554050601
NO DONT DO IT
Ingots are like 70 real dollars or something
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>>554050601
Don’t the ingots only give 1 level out of 10 per tier?
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>>554050323
Benis is a decent choice for a fighter to go all in on since her skill does something relatively unique since it’s really fucking bad on anyone that isn’t her, at least at Level 1, and is so far the only source of action-economyless damage.
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>>554050601
>Steel
Don't do it. It's a good piece but not mindblowingly good anyway
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>>554050323
I still feel stupid for using my 2nd Debra on her inheritable. Masketta recovering SP is more useful but I don't seem to get another one.
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>>554050601
>steel
No
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>>554050601
Steel is really bad
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>>554051753
? That's all Debra is good for
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>>554050736
>>554050746
>>554051728
>>554051861
>>554051881
Got it, thanks for saving me from a potential fuckup gwos. I'll just hang on to it in case they introduce some reverse reinforcement where you can transfer the blessings to a higher tier equip or something.
I guess ingots are only worth using on ebonsteel and maybe some of the lego weapons?
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>>554052154
It's only worth using on a 2-hit 2H gacha weapon if they're ever crazy enough to make one
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>>554052000
I mean for Debra recovering 5 SP instead of 4 SP is not that much.
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>>554052154
reinforcement isn't worth using on ebonsteel
the only current weapon it would be worth using on is Yuzunamiki's gacha weapon
but that is already silver tier so you can't composite reinforce it
maybe in abyss 5
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>>554052291
Oh I see, rip
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>>554042790
I was pretty busy in December, so I still have a bunch left to do in Abyss 4 (True Ending, faction quests, requests, general farming and leveling)
Honestly surprised so many people seem to be done already, I feel like I was one of the first done with Guarda with only slightly more progress speed
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>>554027728
same with all of those except A4
only in the 4th run I felt that the dungeon feels "complete" but even still I think its not as masterfully designed like A3 was, and the dungeon gimmick feels tacked on too with you just opening shortcuts but the story was great at least.
A4 was better than A2 I felt though.

A1 = A3 > A4 > A2
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New set of bones has Wana, Abe, Rinne, 3 bricks.
Old has great inheritance fodder and Geluf who turns into a brick pull at max discipline.
What do? I have almost 100 of these saved up.
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A4 is not even a dungeon, just a shitty hallway
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>>554052154
reinforcement is really expensive and several stages. the ingot only guarantees one stage of improvement. Basically you save it for some gacha 4-5* gear you get down the line and do the first several levels with abyss 4 fodder
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>>554056698
Gonna mash.
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>>554054967
I'd hold until the next double legendary event. Do you really need to pull right now ?
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>>554036814
Unf
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need an adventurer who calls me zako every time I job
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>>554058652
I normally like cuter girls more than pretty ones but Benis is genuinely beautiful like a piece of art. I hope her quest is nice when it comes soon and that she gets a nice alt
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>>554059723
Benis might get thrown in popularity jail like Alice since she ranked high pretty much across the board.
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>>554059515
Zako zako zako when you get hit or die but with heart the zako turns into a slight stutter and genuinely worrying one on death
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They need to add option to select affection level of character after its maxed out
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>>554056698
For carl..
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>>554040313
You know, mage is actually a useful CC even for fighter now. Having a dispel they can cast like 2 times is kinda nice in a pinch I guess.
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>>554040313
>armored wizard
Would be fucking cool
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>>554061124
>can't place a trap if the enemy spots you
>'it don't matta... n-none a this mattas'
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>>554063519
That's more or less what Samurai were in the old Wizardry games, but post 6 and the Japanese ones they're more about Katanamaxxing I suppose
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So what's the best exp spot in Abyss 4?
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>>554073638
BF6
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>>554073997
Do you know until which level you get the 1.5x exp multiplier?
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>>554075524
iirc it lasts until lv68-69
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>>554075689
Then there might be another tier, my MC at 55 Ninja gets more than my 60-69 chars
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Can i have multiple legendary request ongoing? Also what choice did you pick for the Alice one and what level did you complete it or does it scale per level?
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What are your thoughts on drecom as a company? I've never played anything from them and I did see the CEO wanted to do things with NFT/Block chain before.
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>>554081698
Pick Agora if you want her to get stuck as black face and get +4 INT, pick Alice for +4 piety and Halo. If you pick Agora, atleast you can swap to NY one, if you got two copies that is.
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>>554083527
Can't you swap back to the previous appearance like the other outfit changes?
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Does any of these have a long term impact or will i be able to curse wheel each of these? I'd like to get the exp tome since it seems to be the best long term choice.
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>>554084036
The skill the book gives is fantastic, it only goes up to lv1 and you want it on everyone, it refreshes monthly.
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>>554084332
It made a mention for it being related to the story, Just wanted to make sure i don't mess anything up.
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>>554084634
Yeah you can't really mess stuff up in this game, you'll do all the routes eventually anyway, just get the clear so you can get the book as soon as possible so you can get more later
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Is there a way to favorite a weapon or lock it?
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>>554087591
Click the item in your inventory and look for the lock icon.
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>>554087591
Edit / Party Management in the guild saves your equipped items and inventory, and will re-equip and replace all of it when you select it press Assemble if you shuffled it around / moved it to other characters
You can't Favorite things but you can get around it that way
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>>554093256
This joke doesn't land now that Wana is permanently available.
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ouuuwghhh...erwin...so cute...so precious...blushing erwin..hiding behind his book...erwin-kun..sex..
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>>554093681
What joke
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i want to change my Wana back to Knight, should i get her to level 70 or are level 60 Fighter skills still just fine if i'm not planning for her to be the main damage dealer?
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>>554094827
Why do you want to do that?
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>>554095501
i like Knights and i like Lana.
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Is it worth farming any floors but the last one in the Alabaster cave?
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>>554095725
Well you can grab armsmanship since it isn't fighter exclusive
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>>554094827
The only benefit you'd get out of it for now would be Armsmanship (so a tiny action speed and accuracy buff assuming you'll want her with 1H and shield as knight), the two new attack skills are fighter only
Since Lana is so nice for farming I'd personally keep her as a fighter and raise a different Knight for when you need one
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I got this beauty in the bigfoot cave (accessible post ending 3/reversing Nullstones), might be my new A4 farming spot
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aren't we supposed to be getting an update that will let us automove through spaces on the map even if they're transparent from using the cursed wheel? or did i hallucinate that?
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>>554098898
Wait, is better junk in there? I haven't been paying attention but I did get a bunch of 4* purple weapons and wondered why I have so many and I've been doing bondmates there
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>>554099029
it was on the monthly roadmap
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Imagine a couple years into this game how fucking busted a new unit is gonna have to be to compete with your D14 Wana with a fuckton of inherits
They will probably keep adding more alts down the line
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>>554101523
>They will probably keep adding more alts down the line
So a D27 Wana with 28bp (10+9+9)?
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>>554083824
This is the big brain question!
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>>554101523
This is especially worrying for collabs which don't run again and don't get alts. It's hard to see how they're going to be worth it even if you D9 them unless they roll out a new system with the next one
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>Chainmail 4*
which one would you alter here?
and to what?
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Can you play this game in landscape on a tablet?
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>>554106684
You build chainmail for surity so you're keeping that surity.
I dont think armors get attack naturally and you'd want to slap that on Yuzu or a fighter
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>>554101523
D9 Yuzu > D36 Debra

D0 New support with party wide heal + dmg reduction/cleanse/shield/cc immunity > D36 Yeka/Adam
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>>554106684
you would alter the mdef anon, that mdef ain't going to do shit
>to what?
more surety, chainmail is built for surety
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>>554101523
>>554103329
I think in the future they're going to have to make some sort of item that you can use to discipline any unit. They'll probably make it paid-only though.
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>Wake up
>Do my dailies
>Go out to the snowy wilderness
>Rape Yuzu's tail
>Go home
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>>554109391
>where would you be taking me?~
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>>554101523
i like that the new legendaries are not super OP; usually they just are pretty cool
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>>554099558
I've also got a pretty good Beast Penetrator (heh) there, from my small sample size it seems like the loot there is better at least, at least in terms of the anti beast weapons, because they drop relatively rarely in zones 10-11 where the otherwise good stuff drops
Most of my anti beast A4 drops come from zone 6 I think and there they seem to be limited to lower quality
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>>554101523
It's honestly a really weird system they've set up, at least compared to how other gachas have done things
Like so much baseline power is in the class kits multiple characters share and the equipment that even for whales mostly comes from ingame grinding, then a few characters so far have strong unique actives or passives, but for most people the raw stats from high discipline are probably more impactful, and the fact that you can pretty much inherit anything on anyone making it a really tough sell to switch from a character you invested a lot into
One thing that'll probably make discipline less relevant later on might be that the stats from levels and gear will keep increasing while discipline afaik is static and not some % added to your stats
I also feel they are hitting a point with the required exp to get a new character up to speed that makes it a tough sell to slot a new character into your team
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>>554101523
i imagine the combat will be full of out of turn actions on both sides, or hp % attacks

your discipline stats can be lazily answered by 100% instant kill moves (that JD will justify because of the free hand revive)
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>>554111891
limitations make a game fun but I'm not sure they would do it for a gacha game
honestly I want the EO skill system so that not every unit you have will be some omni job that can do everything
but then what happens to the inherits you paid for, and that would be another headache to think about I guess.
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>>554114413
All very breedable.
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>>554111891
The system will probably need some more tweaks and retrofits eventually, but if they keep 80-90% of a character's power from their class and gear, then they can keep it somewhat slow.
Additionally make more alts and give greater merging bonuses will also help people not get annoyed about dumping high investment characters.
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>>554116685
I feel like the only way shit will really work out is if they ditch discipline entirely and replace it with a universal class discipline so any new unit can share. Otherwise it's just gonna compound the longer shit goes on.
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I'm surprised that people look back at A3 fondly. I thought We the people agreed that it was claustrophobic and has too much punishment for exploring
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>>554118751
>I thought We the people agreed...
there were 2 ppls, and if you did not like A3 you were not my ppls
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>>554118751
it is stressful in a good way
A4 feels like whatever and you just open shortcuts
maybe they will do something with the sapling and blizzard cyclones in the map in future updates but as of now I just feel the dungeon design is too lax upon the players
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>>554118751
A3 was fun as a dungeon, it was just ASS to farm.
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>>554118751
>and has too much punishment for exploring
No, that's the poison mines on B8F. I dunno what you played but climbing Guarda with weak level 50s where 1 FOE drained you of everything was a thrill ride and a half
The most disappointing part of A4 for me was the only FOE being the unkillable easy-to-get-of GWO ghost thing, when we should have been chased by actual FOE giganiggers in the fog meant to catch and kill you during stuff the first berry quest, instead of respawning zergs of easy wolves on B6F
Autoing slogs of easy stuff sucks
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>>554119674
>easy-to-get-of
*get rid of
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prison won't be any better
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so i kinda spoiled myself by looking at wha t you guys wrote, but it's more fun to go through abyss 3 as level 50?
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>>554052413
The offhand daggers are worth reinforcing for ningers if they are well rolled. The paralysis and def down debuff one.
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>>554038659
350 is a pretty good start and all your moves will surety in the thousands and scatter shot would do around 4k.
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>>554120665
pre shiou,yuzu and 2h changes I would say nyo_
now I would say nyes
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neuter all catniggers
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>>554120665
we were crippled black hobos at a3 launch compared to now, it won't be the same, but yeah it'd be more fun than overleveling it
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Are any of these worth leveling? I've been trying to farming ninjas forever. Is there a better spot than the lake to farm? I'm getting maybe 0-2 kills an hour.
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old meme but i will take them both at level 20
surely with a fully kitted party and a d5 yekaterina i can beat them
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>>554125536
i can't do it
how the fuck did an anon beat this shit at level 20? did they smuggle in cuisinarts or some shit?
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>>554125390
if you get enough to +20 the snow-oni yoto is pretty crazy(but its shitty at low lvls), I would wait for a better kagurazuki drop if you try to build one
masterwork can drop from non-ninja junk so unless you farm a lot that will probably be the first(could also search for beast hunter) you could +10/15~ and then you can swap later
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Red Velvet - Mint & Licorice - Chocolate Caramel
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>>554120002
wasn't guarda already prison themed, I'd rather have a deep forest/jungle.
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next abyss is Guane's sex dungeon
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>>554127595
Sorry, we just had a snow-covered forest. back to real dungeons
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>>554127595
If you count the basement, kind of. It's kind of the opposite though, you had to break into a impregnable fortress last time, and now it's probably prison break, we'll see.
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>>554126140
he used skill
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>>554128515
you can still have a jungle in a dungeon, or vice versa.
>>554128582
I hope its at least visually distinct from guarda/beginning abyss.
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>>554111891
I like it much more, in other gachas everything outside few characters is useless and everything is power crept by new banners
it should be easier to refund or transfer investment tho
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>>554081698
>>554081698
>Can i have multiple legendary request ongoing?
i have 3 open right now and did another one before
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>>554098898
map?
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I will RAPE Chloe in prison
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>drop soap
>get raped to death
>Lulu calls me a retard for dropping it
>Wheel
>Say I was assraped to lulu
>She laughs and calls me a retard.
I'm so tired of her getting away with this shit.
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anyone know what is monster/monster number 56?
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Gandolfo, the ladies man
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>>554133837
Gandolfo always looked to me like he's halfway between a generic grunt of the day you'd see in some fantasy anime that jobs to the MC, to actually being part of the main cast.
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>>554134206
I like him. He sound like bro. Look like a asshole with a doze of generic NTRman
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>>554134549
Yeah, can't really blame him being an asshole, guy had a hard life.
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>>554134901
He reminds me of outlaw wuxia heroes, where he's dishonoured by the world but not defeated by it. He's a really endearing bastard and I love him for that.
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>>554135280
>>554134901
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Alabaster bow really doesnt seem like worth the grinding and having to do the quest true ending 26 more times. Its just few points of accuracy and extra SP over a regular silver bow, cant even be over 3 stars or purple. And just going through the abyss 4 normally I already got +15 silver bow without extra grind or effort (which I will have to do anyway for silver tier armor).

Kind of sucks, the bow looks cool and it always feels nicer to have gear with real names instead of "X tier boots/helmet/weapon"
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>>554133837
mommy issues chad
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>>554136115
yeah, it looks like ass and you are better just trying to get anti beast bow or just buy one from shop
of course if you farm cave you can also get bow if you can get it reliable
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behold, goodest boy
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>>554137696
He looks kind of fat in this
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>>554138123
gambeson+chainmail looks like that
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any saviabros here?
i got a 8 BP copy and i'd ideally want to keep her in her knight form as a backline knight

i checked the IVs on the drop rate site, and it's either a IQ, SPD or neutral boon savia.
do i gamble on dumping 8 BP speed and pray for speed boon? or dump my bonus points into luck?
does black beast feint have any use in abyss 4?
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>>554136115
Yeah I didn't wheel farm it like Le Bicken because it can't be purple. Chest farming it is ok though because hunting boots and gloves are really good. EXP is decent too plus I need to clear the shop with currency.

Take all chests in B3 and see if there's any in the drop down area > take any nearby chests in B2 and decide if it's worth going for the drop down or the far ones. Chests drop from battles at a decent rate.
I never go to B1. Mob exp sucks and in my experience the good junk doesn't drop on that floor.
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is there a way to get the additional dispatch rewards 100% of the time?
my low grade iron ore team has mostly 40s in it, wind of course, thief/mage/priest included and no clashing alignments, still they sometimes come back without having done much, only like 5 fights and very little ore drops + NO additional reward
the status report doesn't show anything bad happen
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>>554138769
increase its combat power+fill their free pocket space with potions
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>he doesn't know
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>>554138956
they have nearly 8000 combat power, a lvl60 thief and mage and different healing and curing items in their inventory.
they haven't even used those, I think they didn't even need to
it's like it was just a shit run for them lol, they also returned really early without having fought much, also they just passed other peoples parties without fighting them, either
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>>554139442
mixed team?
evil-good? also try to see if there is no opposing elements



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