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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8977 - Nothing Edition

==NEWS==
>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 21 January 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Racing CrossWorlds - 04 March 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 04 March 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 01 April 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru

>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous zone: >553879179
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FAGGOTS
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>>553936361
Nice link retard
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first for best ship
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>>553936361
>Always bet on nothing.
Of course, again, if they had anything to show, it would have been at the game awards. They likely haven't gotten anything substantial built yet.
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I expect nothing for Silver but hope for something
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The revisionism and rot started with Sonic Adventure. Yuji Uekawa had nothing to do with Sonic's creation. Why was Uekawa redesigning the character?
Sonic having green eyes is OOC. Sonic is completely OOC in any games after adventure with the exceptions being the classic sub-brand. He's in character in Mania, Mania Adventures, and Superstars. Superstars is great because it was actually written by Ohshima and you can see the charm of the character.
Why aren't more people talking about the adventure era being completely OOC compared to the classic era?
People should not get a slide for bastardizing the character just because they're Japanese.
Revisionism is a cancer and it started with Sonic Adventure. It's been disastrous for the franchise.
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>>553935983
I am truly alienated from my entire kin.
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>>553936727
>Santiago Superstars
>in character
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>>553936521
Sowy uwu
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>>553936361
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Moth
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>>553936886
It's written by Sonic's creator.
If something written by the creator of Sonic isn't in character, then what the fuck is 'in character'?
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>>553936886
It is made by ohshima.
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>>553936981
>In a situation where nothing ever happens, all futures are possible Sonic
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Classic Sonic isn't a character.
He's just Mario.
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Everyone should make their own characterization documents with their own criteria with cited sources so we can see what the consensus is around here
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Who did Cream fail to kill?
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>>553937305
Mario has more of a character.
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>>553936886
Isn't that Origins?
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*lick*

*bite*
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>Be Barry
>Have a gambling addiction
>I realize it's a problem and go get help
>Friend tells me to quit going to casinos and try something else like
video games instead
>Go on my computer and see what there is
>This game called Balatro looks pretty cool
>Alright, it's a poker simulator
>Wait why are there power ups
>Hey this is pretty fun
>Get a text, it's from my boss
>I'm fired, turns out I completely skipped a shift without notice
>What's he talking about? It's only... 8pm
>I've been playing for 17 hours straight
>Dear god I need to stop...
>...But there's another Spectral Pack in the shop...
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>>553937075
Notice how they dont have an answer.
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>>553936361
EvenDOE billions died.
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>>553936361
>10th anniversary game: adventure 2
>15th anniversary game(s): sonic 06/riders
>20th anniversary game: generations
>25th anniversary game(s): forces/mania
>30th anniversary game(s): frontiers/colors ultimate
the 25th and 30th ann. games actually released the year after, so there's nearly two full years to go.
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Sorry Anon378, but I think it's time to leave the /sthg/ crew
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If Sonic is so popular then where are all the porn games? Or dating sims?
If you love Sonic so much why can't we have virtual sex with him HHHHHHMMMMMMMM????
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Sexy canine fangs.
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Chads
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>Gallagher Archie
>Fun, whimsy, cartoony.

>Gallagher / Penders Archie
>Same as before but more serious. features sci-fi and mysticism. mix of action, lore and world building (That was the sweet spot)

>Early Penders / Bollers Archie
>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More action focused

>Late Penders / Bollers Archie
>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More drama focused. most archie criticism comes from content made in this era. (slap happens here)

>Flynn Archie
>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More action focused

>Flynn reboot archie
>serious. tries to re tell game lore its own way. very action focused

>Flynn IDW
>Reboot archie without the Sonic SatAM stuff

>Evan IDW
>Steven universe fanfic

>Imada Blade of Courge
>Dark age game (Sonic and his co protagonist)

>Imada Shadow
>Shadow gens with more plot

>90s shogakukan manga
>hellokitty for boys

Ben Hurst Documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTuMgsR38ng
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>>553938780
Uncle Chud
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>>553938780
I fucked them all.
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>>553938964
Sally....
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>>553938964
Careful. Do you really wanna deal with the woman.
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>>553938780
>>553939193
SEEEEEEEEEEX NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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Ian and Evan sitting in a tree.
F-U-C-K-I-N-G
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>>553939269
And the offspring
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>>553939410
Triplets born
The pr0n awaits
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So still not fucking news, huh
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>>553934612
draw human women.
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Year of Infinite
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>>553938478
>35000k at this point for a whole crew
This is horribly bad desu, I have done far more than that on my lonesome for this crew event and so has most of my crew. I suggest pivoting to a different one
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>>553939889
Kit could probably host a fine cooking show.
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>>553938525
>Doesn't know about Sonic XX or Sonic Transformed
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>>553936727
Hello. And welcome.

I have reviewed your post. And I must say. You are mostly correct. But you do not go far enough.

The problem with Sonic Adventure is not just the green eyes. The problem is that SEGA of Japan decided to ignore the established canon of the Saturday morning cartoon and the Archie comics. This is a serious problem. Sally Acorn is nowhere to be found in Sonic Adventure. She is the leader of the Freedom Fighters. She is intelligent. She is a princess. She has a very attractive design that most people would agree is appealing. But SEGA decided she does not exist.

This is revisionism. And it is a cancer.

The story of Sonic Adventure 2 is also bad because Sonic runs from the government instead of proving his innocence in a court of law. This is what a real hero would do. Sally would have told Sonic to get a lawyer. But Sally is not in the game. Because of the Japanese influence.

Yuji Uekawa gave Sonic green eyes because he wanted to destroy the Western canon. This is obvious to anyone who thinks about it. The eyes are a symbol. They represent SEGA of Japan's contempt for American fans who grew up with the SatAM cartoon.

I believe most people would agree with this assessment. It is very popular opinion. The franchise has been a disaster since they removed Sally Acorn. She should be the main character. Not these Japanese additions like Shadow or Rouge.

Bottom line. Sonic Adventure marks the death of the real Sonic. And that is truly sad.
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>>553938525
I've thought about making a shadow touching sim but I lack the skill
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>>553940128
What even is this post
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>>553940092
I can’t believe there’s people who still draw Bendy. When’s the last time he was relevant?
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>>553940081
those are SHIT
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>Sonic Team spending their entire budget just to keep warm in the winter.
Tragic.
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>>553937371
I would like to see other people do it in case mine is missing anything
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>>553940081
>He doesn't know about [Abysmal dogshit]
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>>553940303
Hello. I see you are confused by my post.

This is a serious problem with modern gamers. They do not understand media criticism. When I play Sonic Adventure I expect to see Sally Acorn. She is the leader of the Freedom Fighters. She is intelligent. She is a princess with a very attractive figure that most people find appealing. But she is not in the game. This is like if you bought Toy Story and Woody had edging problems on his character model. You would be upset. Anyone would be upset.

The problem with Sonic Adventure is that Sonic does not go to trial to prove his innocence. He runs from the government. This is bad. A real hero would get a lawyer. Sally Acorn would have told him to get a lawyer. But Sally is not in the game because SEGA of Japan decided to ignore the Western canon. This is revisionism.

My post is very clear. It is a popular opinion that most people share. The Japanese influence has been disastrous for the Sonic franchise. If you do not understand this then perhaps you have not played the games properly.

I have been playing video games since the Clinton administration. I know what I am talking about. The green eyes are a symbol of SEGA's contempt for American fans. This is obvious to anyone who thinks about it.

Perhaps you should read the post again. Slowly this time. It will make sense. The end.
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Drago!
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>>553937371
Making character documents for this franchise is a waste of time.
Everything we're talking about now will either be memory-holed or irrelevant in less than 10 years from now just like Crashdow was.
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>>553940524
Ooc.
Sally is a slut and she would have slept with the G.U.N. commander to get the police off Sonic's back and bare his child.
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>>553940524
Oh, it's AI bait.
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>>553940128
Sonic belongs to SEGA, not DiC. Sally Acorn serves no purpose to the Sonic franchise. And green eyes are sexy
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>>553940602
Hey, how's that one 69 pic is coming along?
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>>553940128
I know this is a shitpost but to be honest, There are aspects of the american or even British cannon I like and would like to see implemented in some form. The thing is, Less than half of the content would actually work and the rest would just be meaningless fluff.
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>>553940707
Hello. I have read your post. And I must say. You are wrong. This is slander.

Sally Acorn is a princess. She is intelligent. She is a natural leader with a very attractive figure that most people would agree is appealing. She would not do what you are describing. She would hire a lawyer. This is what real heroes do. They go to trial and prove their innocence.

The problem with Sonic Adventure 2 is that Sonic breaks out of a military helicopter instead of proving his innocence in court. It was a simple mistake with how similar Sonic and the new black hedgehog are. Sonic could have gotten a lawyer. But he did not. This is bad writing. If Sally Acorn was in the game she would have told Sonic to get legal representation. She is intelligent. She understands the legal system. She would not do what you are suggesting. That is out of character.

The story of Sonic Adventure 2 is bad because even if Sonic is found innocent of being the new black hedgehog he will still go to prison for escaping custody. Sally would have prevented this. She would have filed the proper paperwork. She is a princess. She has connections. She has a very nice design.

Your post is slander against a beloved character. Most people would agree with me on this. Sally Acorn is the ideal woman. She is loyal. She is smart. She would use the legal system.

Bottom line. You are wrong.
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I solved it....
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>>553940707
Hello. I have read your post. And I must say you are correct and you Understand Sally.
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>>553940405
>Sonic Team spending most of their budget on crossover slop instead of high resolution models, smooth animations, and multifaceted gameplay for mainline games
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>>553941008
lmao
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Hello I have read your post
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What if Sonic was ABANDONED and BETRAYED by his friends and TRAPPED in White Space for 1000 years?
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>>553941068
It sells anyways, why would they try?
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>>553941105
Thank you... :)
*cums*
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>>553940703
This is only a problem for Tails. Sonic hasn't changed much at all aside from being more of a gary stu.
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Hypothetically, let's say that Silver gets thrown into void or "dead time" and finds Nine in there? Would they be able to become friends?
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>>553940823
just gotta line and color the Geoff bj scene, gonna start finishing it after lunch
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Why do people always say the "recent games made Shadow more of an asshole"? Unironically asking. Where and how did this start? He is an asshole in shadow the hedgehog, he is an asshole in sonic rivals. He is an asshole in Sonic heroes. He's always been an asshole. There is only one game where he isn't an asshole and it's Sonic 06. The only reason he's not an asshole in that game is because he only interacts with Rouge and Omega for almost the whole game.
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>>553941258
>Sonic hasn't changed much at all aside from being more of a gary stu.
>>553936727
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>>553941386
Friends? Zero.
Lovers? 100%
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>>553941152
That's exactly the problem - fans don't demand quality; they demand quantity
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Imagine still caring about the Mary Sue Sally Acorn in 2026. If I wanted Western mayonnaise I'd watch Mickey Mouse, not a Sonic show
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Hello
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>>553940405
>Sonic team spending their budget on experimental game and lighting engines that they're not even going to use.
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ship so ooc that sega told archie to stop doing it before the reboot or the no-romance mandate was even an idea
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>>553941523
>Imagine still caring about the Mary Sue Sally Acorn in 2026.
Yeah, so why do you?
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For the Shadowfags, lolipop
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>>553941757
I was responding to the other posts above me
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People are dying.
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>>553941523
anon's thick, gooey western mayonnaise...
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I just got a BJ from Tangle, she ended up grinding her teeth on me, and asked where was my desire for "adventure" when I asked her to stop grinding her teeth on my penis.
And the tailjobs were awful she tightens way to hard while giving a dumbass expression the whole time, I hate this retard.
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>>553940703
>I sometimes feel like I'm the only sane one in this thread because it feels like no one even considers this basic line of logic when talking about characterization. Everyone just assumes on here that these characters will remain static forever when some of them have extremely different personalities from what they had even 6-7 years ago, like Amy and Tails and on some level Shadow.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes this but now it just makes me question why so many character discussions on here ignore it.
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>>553941862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko
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If you downplay Sally kissing random guys you are making her OOC
If you make her loyal to just Sonic you are replacing her character traits with Amy to force a ship to stay in place
Stupid AMERICANS don't understand Sally's japanese character
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Sally is loyal. Loyal to ALL of the cocks in the world!
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>>553941523
It's just fred on his bullshit again.
he needs to let it go.
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>>553941862
People die daily
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Blaze is a brutal and tyrannical overlord in the Sol Dimension but no one speaks out against it
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>>553942213
>mfw i don't die daily
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>>553942263
She's not. She's a cute orderly cat girl princess.
Why are you pushing OOC?

Unfortunately, it's moot as she died in Sonic 06 to stop Solaris and save Silver.
Now she's just Silver's dead girlfriend.
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https://youtu.be/kJJZ6Cq9tqg
It's safe to say Live and Learn is still on the table for future promotions or it's just planned ahead fluke?
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>>553941957
Because the characterfags on here are genuinely stupid people or mentally stunted. They cannot grasp the fact that current characterizations will change as time moves forward and bringing this up to them will cause them to feel extreme cognitive dissonance so they either stop typing or they lash out in anger and hatred.
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Hey I'm not gay, but I would make love with Silver passionately, and I'd gladly go to his future for the rest of my life.
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>>553942494
>Hey I'm not gay, but
Then you are.
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>>553942446
Probably just not the lyrics
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>>553941957
>>553940703
I don't agree. I feel like this is throwing the baby out with the bath water. You disagree that the characters are perfectly consistent in japan but it's certainly wrong to say there aren't consistent character traits. Especially if someone wants to try writing these characters themselves. There are things Sonic, Shadow, Silver and others have always done, never done, will never do, will always do ect. Inconsistencies or not. For Sonic, the inconsistencies only actually boil down to how much he jokes and how much you can bother him.
We could point to the Adventure era as a "change" but that felt more like Yuji Naka wresting control over the character from Ohshima's intention. Nothing he actually says or does is a contradiction. Official statements get contradicted but what about the brass tax behavior?

I don't like the idea that it's just worthless to be interested in these things just because some characterfags are obnoxious about it.
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>>553942396
it's good to be the king
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>>553942576
You can sex men and not be gay, don't be a bigot.
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>>553942667
That's gay erasure, bigot.
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>>553942759
All of /sthg/ wishes to be like this image but with blobians.
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>>553941386
Nine is alive kicking, Silver can't travel through dimensions, that's Blaze's job.
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I've never seen anyone trying to antagonize and down play Yuji Naka's involvement more than amybesties. because he decided he doesn't want his boy to date your waifu.
Sonic went to shit after Naka left. just saying.
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>>553942837
Acknowledging that there are men that sex men but aren't gay isn't erasure, it's awareness, bigot.
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Finally this piece of shit is dead.
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>>553940081
The Cream scene is the only decent part of Transformed.
Largely due to the rear perspective so he couldn't totally fuck it up.
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>>553942463
Defense mechanism used by Archiefags. Shadow is slightly meaner in one game so that makes it okay to completely rewrite Sonic's personality in the comics. The characters are consistent and you're just a baby who consumes english dubs and westshit.
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>>553940890
>The problem with Sonic Adventure 2 is that Sonic breaks out of a military helicopter instead of proving his innocence in court.
But that's not edgy
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>>553943007
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Rouge the Bat!

What do you think of her?
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>>553943007
He can't die, thus why he was sealed in 06.
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>>553943039
>The characters are consistent
>Tails
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boobs
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>>553942951
Even a talented game producer can make mistakes. Yuji Naka isn't perfect
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>>553940890
>random court trial level instead of city escape.
yeah that should inch out better reviews to our millennial reviewers
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>>553943142
The new Sally Acorn. Kept around for legacy and tits
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>>553942951
I've seen this a lot starting in august. Amyfags will say Yuji Naka's word doesn't count because it goes against Ohshimas. I think that's a fair argument until you actually level it to the games. If you go only by the games then Sonic has NEVER been interested in that sort of thing at all and at best is totally AVERSE just like Naka suggests. Naka's statement only confirms what we can already see. Sonic doesn't care about romance. Not from Amy or Sally. Any depiction of Sonic going in that direction is OOC unless the games decide to add that to him.

I say that knowing there are inconsistencies. But there hasn't been an era of Sonic games where this wasn't true. You'd have to venture into his manga or Archie( doubt Sonamyfags would want to do that) characterizations for any Sonic that is reciprocating romance.
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>>553942641
Of course there's always going to be a baseline for what these characters are because they have an archetype and character troupe they must folllow.
Sonic is the fast cool blue dude. (can't even put "with 'tude" anymore because that's considered a stricktly American thing until SOJ readopts again.)
Shadow is the dark and brooding anti-hero.
Silver is....well frankly he shouldn't exist but we're stuck with him so fuck it.

The problem is making an in-depth character dive and study on these characters is pointless because as pretty much any long time Sonic fan will tell you, Sonic Team is inconsistent as fuck and WILL either retcon or straight up contradict previous interactions, happenings and character traits. They have been doing that since literally the 90's.

I'm not going to stop people from having fun and headcanoning their own "real and true Sonic" but I am firmly in the camp where I don't' see the point in even doing that because, as the other anon said, this shit isn't going to be relevant in 10 years and we'll be having an entirely different argument/discussion about what the real character is. I genuinely just see it as a waste of time because you're trying to find a core character that simply doesn't exist.
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>>553943279
not wanting to date your waifu is not a mistake
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>>553943142
Built for echidnas
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>>553943338
This has "the artist wants to fuck this design" energy
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>>553942494
I suggest not to do that considering the future could change at any moment and you would be removed out of existence with it
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>knuckles, that sonic killed six billion robotniks!
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>>553936727
If you were consistent with your nonsense, you would say that Sonic 2 is OOC because Sonic is a lighter shade of blue.

>>553937075
Superstars was not written by Ohshima. It was written by Iizuka, who also wrote Shadow 2005 by the way.
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>>553943427
Asians are horny
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>>553942951
>I've never seen anyone trying to antagonize and down play Yuji Naka's involvement more than amybesties
Auster from /vr/ says hi.
>noooo Xtreme was gonna be a hit, they should have giving them a non-existent engine everyone agrees it doesn't exist+make no difference. Naka bad!
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>>553943231
Tails has consistently been a little bitch iPad baby for over almost 2 decades :^)
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>>553936519
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>>553943390
Only averse to romance because Yuji Naka wanted it to be portrayed that way. Otherwise you would've seen Sonic slowly reciprocating Amy's advances all the way back in SA1
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>>553943402
Your last point makes it clear which angle you're coming at this from. I respect that. I'm not really talking about a "THIS CHARACTER SHOULD ALWAYS BE THIS" sort of thing. I mean like that one anon did where he just cites every example to see if it is in the games or not, contradictions and all. It's not really a deep dive. There is no way to even do that with Sonic without it looking like a "YOU BETTER NOT SHIP WHAT I DON'T SHIP" rulebook. A lot of these characters are basically ruled by headcanons anyways.
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>>553943007
Every yume will come and piss on his wound, which will heal on the process.
Better luck next time anon.
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>>553943487
Man, Silver must have a fuckass life what with being the only constant in the future
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>>553940703
This is only a problem because Sonic Team and SOJ want Sonic to be both a static mascot character and an evolving character for the times at the same time and fail at both so we're left with a character that is theoretically supposed to be static but is also clearly affected by the forward march of time and because Sonic Team and SOJ are ran by mongoloid fucking retards, we get the worse of both worlds instead of any of the benefits.
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>>553943689
Good, so am I.
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Tails is consistently a terrible character.
Amy is consistently inconsistent in US and Consistently Terrible in JP
They only who up due to having Classic privilege, if they introduced now, nobody would like them.
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>>553942951
He is the reason why Amy's character has always been shit. Why should they be happy?
>Sonic went to shit after Naka left
He left in the middle of production. Fuck this moron, don't come nack
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>>553943689
I hope that’s not actually the case with that guy.
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>>553942951
you mean the guy that committed financial fraud? yeah let's defend THAT guy
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>>553936502
>Superstars is great because it was actually written by Ohshima and you can see the charm of the character.
Holy revisionism. Everyone shat on Superstars writing for being awful, even for Classic Sonic standards.
Like there's no actual explanation nor reason why the Black Dragon even appeared at the end of the game besides being a obligatory Super Sonic fight.
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>>553943810
>Otherwise you would've seen Sonic slowly reciprocating Amy's advances all the way back in SA1
I think you are mistaking fan service for actual development
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Year of Silver soon niggas
Just wait and see
We getting a game and a movie soon
A full animated trailer and a comic arc too
All of this was promised to us back in 2006 and we'll finally get what we deserve
SILVER IS OUR HOPE
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>>553944042
Kek, accurate.
But shiptards will never accept this.
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>>553944042
You would've seen it start in SA1 and slowly progress from there and eventually into a full-blown romance
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>>553943871
I admire his dedication
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>>553944038
>Like there's no actual explanation nor reason why the Black Dragon even appeared at the end of the game besides being a obligatory Super Sonic fight.
if they gave an explanation you'd complain that "there's too much story in classic games!!!!" so shut up
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SuperShits killed classic Sonic
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>>553943951
Only because Adventure would never be able to be made today due to changing values in political correctness namely in regards to the story themes and the fact that an 8 year old fights bad guys.
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>>553943624
>Superstars was written by Iizuka
How the mighty have fallen. To think this is the same man that is responsible for Sonic 3's Super Sonic intro and the Airship bombardment near the end of Angel Island
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>>553944195
Inferior to Whisper's
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The longer I stay on this general, the more I realize how horrible this IP is. Like genuinely the only redeeming factor in all of this is the good music. That's literally it.
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>>553944108
This image is understands REAL Silver and REAL Silver Fans.
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>>553944240
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>>553942951
>Is the reason why there was bad blood between SoA and SoJ
>is the reason Xtreme couldn't get finished in time and thus the failure of the Saturn, then Dreamcast, and in turn Sega as a console brand
>is the reason 06 was shit
Nah he's bad
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>>553944279
Yuji Naka’s cool. He did time.
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>>553944279
>responsible for Sonic 3's Super Sonic intro and the Airship bombardment near the end of Angel Island
I know he's one of the level designers, but is there an unambiguous source confirming this?
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>>553944279
He went from being the God Behind Classic CHADnic, to... Well, Superstars...
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WHO'S GONNA ROCK THE PLACE
PLACE
PLACE
WHO'S GONNA ROCK THE PLACE
PLACE
PLACE
WHO'S GONNA ROCK THE PLACE
PLACE
PLACE
YOOOOO WHAT'S UP guys Cobanermani456 here and today we're going to be looking at SONIC FRONTIERRRRRSSSS
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Iizuka's love of Shadow changed him
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>>553944467
>He did time.
He didn't even do time though. The sentence was commuted

>>553944530
Is that the pedo or the guy who had a mental breakdown?
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jews infiltrated sonic team after sa2 to make the series worse so the autistic white gentile master race feels ultimate despair
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>>553944012
Kit's round body and the tooney style, that every character has, amplifying the curves doesn't help.
Also Tomii's a girl
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>>553944580
This
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>>553944303
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>>553944194
>if they gave an explanation you'd complain that "there's too much story in classic games!!!!" so shut up
But people love to dicksuck Sonic CD and Sonic 3 & Knuckles stories, so there's no excuse why Superstars story is atrocious.
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>>553944550
Who drew this? Looks a lot like Archie
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>>553944439
>Is the reason why there was bad blood between SoA and SoJ
That was the case regardless and he was on the good side.

>is the reason Xtreme couldn't get finished
Good.

>the failure of the Saturn, then Dreamcast, and in turn Sega as a console brand
Xtreme likely would have made SEGA go bankrupt on release date.

>is the reason 06 was shit
It wouldn't have been a buggy mess if they gave Sonic Team employees more money like Naka asked, instead they fired him.
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>He thinks Yuji Naka was the reason why SEGA had to step out of the console race and not the fact that they literally had 3 running consoles they were trying to sell at the same time and all 3 of them used different methods of data storage and reading.
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>>553944731
Yardley
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*grabs your balls*
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>fox character
>gets sexualized to hell and back
Why does this keep happening?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eccGInlof5A
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...who's the one who's making all the mandates about the series, or how Shadow is to be written, etc?
People say Sega but Sega does not give a fucking shit about Sonic outside of merch and movies
So it must be Iizuka, since he's the only one at Sonic Team who has enough pull to say "Yes" or "No" to these things
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>>553944747
Sonic 06 would've been so much better if they had let all of Sonic Team work on it at once instead of splitting the studio so it could work on 06 and Riders simultaneously too
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>>553944760
SEGA of America and SEGA of Japan were fighting each other instead of working together which is why they had to step out of the race. SoJ legitimately forced SoA to make the 32X and didn't tell them the Saturn was coming out. They were actually trying to destroy them.
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>>553944240
>and the fact that an 8 year old fights bad guys
How does that relate to political correctness?
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I'm not reading your reply, get better bait nigger.
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>>553944838
*with his telekinetic powers*
Fuck
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>>553944664
yeah. that felix/rubberhose comparison photo was good tho.
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>>553944747
>>553944760
>Yuji Naka throws a manchild autistic tantrum and goes "NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE THE NIGHTS ENGINE AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE I WILL QUIT, STOP THIS NOW!"
>Saturn has no big holiday title, thus is made a mockery of in gaming circles and thus fails, forcing Sega to prematurely launch Dreamcast
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>>553944864
The mandates exist because of Archie completely going off of the rails. It's very likely they'll loosen the mandates once IDW proves themselves more.
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>>553944838
You pervert
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>>553944846
foxes (and wolves too) have been sexualized since time immemorial
this is because autistic humans interbred with anthro canines in prehistory
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>>553944846
Foxes are spiritually sexual beings.
Draw an anthro fox and every time they will come out lithe and attractive. It's just how their form works itself out when humanized.
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>>553944864
Iizuka is a Shadow fanboy so he's obviously going to care more about the emo hedgehog than any other character and Iizuka is a yes man to Sega
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>>553945248
honestly real foxes are kinda hot too
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>>553945152
Ooc.
He would have said.
>I'm Sonic, SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!
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>>553943836
You mean me? Still working on that. It's more of a reference book to make sure if I'm writing a fanfic that it's in line with what the games already establish. I still edit it since I'm certainly no authority on the matter.
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>>553945212
>this is because autistic humans interbred with anthro canines in prehistory
take me back...
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>>553944945
Anything that could lead to a Twitter argument / hate mail to the company, like child soldiers, should be avoided, is the philosophy of most companies.
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>>553945075
>The mandates exist because of Archie completely going off of the rails
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>>553945142
Will Surge give him a pity fuck at least
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>>553943703
I watched a video that gives a full summary on Xtreme and Sonic Adventure's development path and the entire half of the video points to STI being incompetent retards with some jew being in Naka's shoes than what SoA fanboys sob about.
Here's a summary of what almost got the jew to quit early
>Someone makes new version of his minecraft engine
>In order to get this set in stone, they have to replace the Hollywood jew program
>Got upset and told them "Have a nice day bitch", says he'll quit if they go with their engine
>SoJ reviewed their progress, just took a fat shit on the Minecraft engines the new team and Senn's team made
>the one Senn and the jew shared was actually an old one on accident
>SoJ president praises Coffin's boss engine and says this should be what Xtreme is here on
>Senn and the Jew decided to hold off on the actual build they forgot to share and treat it as a hailmary.
This is the same guy that had huge beef with Christina Coffin and caused the further schism in STI. He's unironicly worse than Naka and should have been replaced anyways even though the original attempt is indeed scummy.
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>>553943718
Sonic Team has been consistently shit for that long
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>>553945292
take that back.

on second thought, die.
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>>553945284
why did he let shadow be written terribly for nearly a decade then?

>>553945358
The mandates started right after Archie Sonic ended. Occam's Razor.
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>>553945292
They're cute and 'attractive' in that sense but idk if I'm enough of degenerate to want to screw a real one.
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>>553945292
Do not the fox
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>>553945075
>The mandates exist because of [headcanon]
Stopped reading right there
Lemme guess, you read this on Sonic Stadium kek
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>>553945292
in the realm of real animals, deer are the hottest
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>>553945306
>I'm Sonic, SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!
Ooc.
He would have said this.
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>>553945452
>>553945473
>>553945479
I don't want to fuck foxes I just appreciate their beauty. Jfc dude what is wrong with you?
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How is Sparky's comic coming along?
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>>553944895
Yea because SOA was acting as a competitor against SOJ instead of a subsidiary like they are. Frankly they should have dissolved SOA entirely when they tried to suggest that they were the reason why Sonic was popular and they should hold the IP rights.
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>>553945310
Yes more of these
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>>553944038
LOL people defending Supersharts?
Even Advance 3 has a better JP story, because people could piece it together on what it's really about, not some asspull dragon sidestory.
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>>553945616
nicole, make the boobs bigger
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>>553944838
gay nigga
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>>553945628
OOC!
He would have said
>Big oof
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>>553945662
They were definitely seething over Sonic 2 being American made (for the most part)
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>>553945381
Reading Sega's fuck ups is so funny. We live in the best timeline because this is the only way these people could have kept Sonic alive for 35 years
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>>553945662
>they tried to suggest that they were the reason why Sonic was popular
That is correct though.
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>>553945465
Don't know. Guess the pressure from directing, writing, and designing levels made him slip up
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>>553945567
I know a fellow /k/fag when I see one.
Bump gf when?
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>>553945310
Limiting the characters to just their canon appearances with citation will cause untold levels of westfag seething
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>>553945796
I like Archie Silver a lot. Him trying to save the world and getting into fights over it with the Freedom Fighters because he's jumping to conclusions out of desperation with barely any info is great.
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>>553945658
I think he's planning on starting to carefully plan an early prototype of a draft of the first page within the next few decades.
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>>553942446
We better be getting a new game ths year I swear to fuck, don't mess up the 35th
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>it's cuckolding and porn posting again
All the things you said
all the things you said
running through my head
running through my head
running through my head
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>>553945796
>Rivals and Forces Silver in ehhh
>Crossworlds in Not quite him
This is either a strict character fag using an unknown metric or top quality bait
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Why did Starline put an off button on Kit's backpack that renders him completely helpless and vulnerable?
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>>553945854
How many people worked on and developed the Sonic games in SOA?
>But they markete-
ah- ah-! Not the question I asked. I'm asking you how many people in SOA actually worked on and developed the Sonic games.
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>>553945976
Kek, sounds about right.
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>>553945465
>The mandates started right after Archie Sonic ended. Occam's Razor.
The mandates started with Sonic Underground when they were told Sonic has six quills and five fingers. That's why you see those haphazardly edited into certain shots. Then continued in Sonic Universe where Shadow was told to swim and Sonic couldn't cry.
Later the Sonally mandate started after Ian attempted to put them back together in 2011 and Sega wasn't having it. That is all before the reboot which had most of the same mandates as IDW but was still allowed to create love interests for characters (As long as they aren't Sonic) and still allowed to make deviations like putting Sonic on a freedom fighter team or having Shadow work for GUN and have friends. Starting with IDW they all get more strict.
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Will SEGA try to replicate the success of Nine?
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What's her tax policy?
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>>553946228
sega literally forgot archie existed
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>>553946154
Plot device? Lol I don’t think they know either.
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>>553946132
The metric of how straight he is BOOM
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>>553946323
Queens don't set tax policy, prime ministers do
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>>553945796
>20 years old character
>Only 3 of all his media appearances are acceptable
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>>553946228
Shadow can swim?
I assumed all the hogs in Sonic couldn't.
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>>553946331
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>>553946154
In case Kit attacked him
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>>553946328
According to Ian, Iizuka was apprehensive about the name Abraham Tower because it was from Archie but went along with it since Ian promised he would never take any legal action over it.
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>>553946497
I thought you guys hated Ian
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>>553945828
Sonic 2 is not American made "for the most part". Most of the work done by Americans for Sonic 2 was scrapped graphical assets. Sonic 2 was developed by Sonic Team while they were at STI, with some minor help from them on the graphics.
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>>553946497
>since Ian promised
Lmao
Hope Iizuka has a contract written down about it or they're facing another Penders situation in 15 years
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>>553946571
We can hate him and cite what he said
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>>553945381
So the entire timeline, both history and future of this franchise was determined by some retarded, incompetent jew who couldn't even be bothered to actually showcase the fully developed engine?

Actual fucking knee slapper. Everything surrounding this IP is just hilariously incompetent and silly.
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>>553945796
How Silverfags even exists?
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>>553946667
no? you can't?
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>553946682
Why did you reply to yourself
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>>553946657
Nah, Ian is a submissive-autist. He can't channel the tard rage like Ken can.
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Imagine there's no news all year lmao
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>5th Anniversary: Sonic 3D Blast
>10th Anniversary: Sonic Adventure 2
>15th Anniversary: Sonic 06
>20th Anniversary: Sonic Generations
>25th Anniversary: Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice
>30th Anniversary: Sonic Colors Ultimate

How are we feeling about the 35th, /sthg/?
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>>553946682
Basically everything became a shitshow because the American side of STI were too busy fighting over dibs on top of SoA forcing both american and jap teams to save the 32X.
No wonder Naka told them "Good luck.", he fucking knew what was going to happen.
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>>553946154
The writers on IDW are extremely incompetent and do not proofread the stuff they publish. Ian legitimately forgets most of the shit he writes and has to be corrected by his own fans most of the time.

On that note, I have no idea how these people keep their jobs. Idk how the fuck you write something to officially be published and don't even bother to fucking proofread the material.
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35 years and Sonic doesn't have even ONE memorable dog character
not even ONE
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>>553946978
>How are we feeling about the 35th, /sthg/?
I am waiting for a gameplay trailer. If it's boost again, I will be back in another 5 years.
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>>553947201
They don't need one because Sonic already got that dog in him
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>>553947201
Infinite...
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>>553946445
NTA but every mandate to my knowledge
>Sonic can't ask for help
>Sonic can't fail in a permanent manner
>sonic does not cry (tears are allowed if there is some other reason)
>Sonic is not romantic
>Shadow doesn't argue about something he wants to do, he just does it
>Shadow does not deliberately escalate a situation if he can avoid it
>Shadow does not work for GUN
>Shadow and Team Dark are not friends or a unit
>shadow cannot lose if he takes off his inhibitor rings
>Sonic must be a space alien (defunct but actually stated as one of the mandates paramount had to follow)
>shadow cannot be comic relief
>no overly goofy expressions
>mono eyed characters have two eyes when they close them
>the master emerald cannot be used to gain powers or a super form
>Money can't be addressed
>No long term character developments
>Do not explore Silver's future
>no third party characters
>Shadow can swim
sticks was allowed until Ian attempted to give her a backstory. I don't know what to consider that
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>>553945292
Not really. They smell awful and don't have particularly appealing features
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>>553946974
Wouldn't be the first time.
None of you remember what it was like being a fan for this franchise during 2018-19. Literally just 2 whole years of doom and gloom and fans just begging the IP to just retire until the first movie genuinely saved the fucking franchise.
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>>553947201
>Muttski
the og muttski from SatAM and og Archie. not whatever Ian decided to do with him in reboot
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>>553945381
Wait, the jewish nigga made the fisheye block shit?
What the fuck was Iizuka thinking on bringing this shit back??
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>>553946323
Humans must pay the queen a direct physical tribute monthly
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>>553946571
I don't have any opinion on Ian. He said what he said.
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>>553943421
*for black hedgehogs
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>>553946323
She abandoned her kingdom over a "prophecy".
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>>553947462
Why's my goat ass BROWN?
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>>553947318
>Shadow does not deliberately escalate a situation if he can avoid it
I find it hilarious that this is such a simple fucking thing to grasp and yet most Shadowfags just cannot wrap their head around it. The western side of this fandom just want Shadow to be furry Vegeta so bad.
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Forgot a mandate
>Bean is not crazy
That one didn't kick in until 2024 for some reason and is one of the few mandates you can see activate in real time if you read IDW
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>>553946978
I'm not getting my hopes up. Sonic tends to flop even -6th anniversary like in 2006
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>>553946416
Who would be prime minster in the world of underground anyway? Also since Alenna was the queen of the whole planet Mobius, Wouldn't it make more sense to label her as an empress? Since she would have been in charge of several nations
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>>553945971
>Him trying to save the world and getting into fights over it with the Freedom Fighters because he's jumping to conclusions out of desperation with barely any info is great
You're the first Silverfag I've seen say they like this
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>>553947695
Every time I see fanart of Shadow assaulting another character for annoying him I groan. They turn him into a thug.
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>>553947920
Not really a Silverfag. I just like Silver being a bit of a dummy
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>>553948035
Regardless, it is an opinion I don't see often
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>>553947695
Most Shadowfags have a headcanon version of Shadow in their minds who acts like some mix of Wolverine and their goth highschool crush.
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>>553947318
>no overly goofy expressions
Funny because people always talk about how expressionless the game is and they think it's a good idea
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>>553948143
That's what Shadowyumes think about him
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>>553947839
Yeah alright
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>all these vague statements about "The characters change all the time"
>All of the examples are either american or Tails
This is because Iizuka doesn't give a shit about Tails and the dubs keep changing things so of course they aren't consistent.

>b-b-b-but what about windnic
It's in that prehistoric fucking manga already get over it. You fell in love with 2000s westnic and that's okay. You're basically a SatAMfag second gen. That is also okay.
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>>553948190
>Funny because people always talk about how expressionless the game is and they think it's a good idea
This franchise is built on them making the worst decisions imaginable, anon
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>>553947318
*Money can't be addressed, unless Vector is involved because he loves money despite it not existing.
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>>553948114
I’m surprised it is isnt. I been a silverfag my whole life and yeah that’s true.
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>>553947318
Why would anyone try to write for this series at this point? Penders really did fuck everything up.
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>>553948331
>You fell in love with 2000s westnic and that's okay
Of course its okay, its the better Sonic
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>>553938478
Why me? Literally only 4 people contributed this week and I’m literally 850K points over second place

If anything I’m the MVP of the week
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>>553947318
>Sonic is not romantic
Sonamyfags and Sonallyfags will hear "Sonic is never intimate with anybody" and try and come up with 30 loopholes while blaming Yuji Naka when you don't even need to know who Yuji Naka is to pick up on this. Boo fucking whoo play a game.
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It'd be impressive just how many things went wrong in this franchise both publicly and behind the scenes and it still keeps chugging...if it wasn't so depressing.
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>>553948064
>kit is like the ocean
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>>553948508
If it's a short story/anthology approach, then it's fine.
Sonic as a franchise isn't built for longer form storytelling because the mascot debuff is THAT strong.
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>>553948671
what the fuck no delete this
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>>553948517
I'm honestly glad you're proud of it anon. Really.
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Archie Eggman is best Eggman
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>>553948671
what the fuck yes post more
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>>553948508
>>553948702
Just eat "it's a different universe" like the movies. It's the only way to make the characters do things you want
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>>553948805
Honestly, the second I realized that I genuinely just dont like Japan's sonic, the happier I became about liking this series.
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>>553939845
>Infinite wakes up in his apartment
>Its located above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley
>The heat and water is off again
>Breakfast is another bowl of stale Raisin Bran
>He heads to his shitbox of a car. It won't start again
>Has to use his bike with two flat tires to go the 15 miles to work
>Of course it's a thunderstorm
>Another 12 hour shift at MehBurger
>Crying kids, vomit, entitled Karens, the stench of grease, loud annoying music
>Work is finally over, has to bike home again
>The storm is somehow worse
>Supper is an expired frozen dinner
>The power is now out, has to eat it ice cold
>He lays down on his stained, roach infested mattress
>Looks at the time
>Has to be at work in 6 hours

How could it be worse?
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>>553947318
Okay so let me get this straight
>Cannot build on any character interaction
>Cannot evolve characters in any way
>Cannot have the story affect directly or indirectly any of the characters
>No romance
>No gags unless it's towards a dedicated gag OC
>No whacky cartoon shenanigans even though this is literally a cartoon franchise.
>Shadow can't be edgy or cool.
>He can't even have friends
>Money can't exist so the world's internal logic will never make sense.
>Sonic and Shadow have to always be taken seriously, no comic relief, ever.
>Master Emerald is literally useless as a plot device and a Mcguffin
>Can't explore alternate dimensions (unless your Prime.)
>Can't explore alternate timelines (unless your Prime.)
>No shipteasing
>No crossovers
>No high stakes
>Any long term story basically can't involve any of the game cast.

Holy fucking shit dude, no wonder no one wants to fucking write for this franchise. What the fuck are you even supposed to write about? How much Tails like mint candy or something? What the fuck?
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>>553948964
>Sonic fans accepting that there can be multiple different interpretations of Sonic in the franchise and none of them have to be super streamlined to the games
I hate the obsession with some unified "canon" so much.
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I hate to say it bros, but it's actually over. We laughed at this absolute pretentious clown years ago. We mocked the "hire this man" energy radiating off his "game design graduate" thesis. We thought the idea of a mute, sad Sonic wandering around a realistic environment with a backpack was the peak of soulless indie-bait garbage.

But look at *Frontiers*. Look at it and tell me this guy didn't win.

Iizuka and Kishimoto definitely watched this video. They looked at the "cold hard data" this guy was yapping about and decided that the "creative solution" was to strip Sonic of everything that made him cool.

>The Character Assassination
This guy wanted Sonic to be "cautious," "vulnerable," and "not cocky." He wanted to target the "mature" audience. What did we get in Frontiers? We got a depressed, monotone Sonic reading Wikipedia articles to himself in the rain.

>Alone in the Wilderness
This guy complained about the "bright colors" and wanted a "more organic aesthetic." He wanted Sonic to be a small creature in a big world. Frontiers is literally just Sonic dropped into a generic Unreal Engine asset flip. It’s the "lonely wilderness" trope played completely straight. No vibrant zones, no creative art direction, just realistic grass and grey rocks. They isolated him just like this guy wanted, removing the vibrant cast interactions (until the DLC tried to fix it) to make it feel "serious" and "atmospheric." It’s the exact same "artsy" pretension masked as "evolution."

>The Forced "Progression"
Remember how this guy wanted to add a backpack and a currency system because "jumping isn't enough"? He wanted to "respect the intellect of the player" with puzzles and mechanics? Frontiers is infested with this rot.
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>>553948331
99% of characterization seething is actually just people who want to be able to ship something getting mad that there is no game that justifies their ship so they say "Well the characters were always inconsistent shut up JPfags". as a way to make the entire concept of characterization sound stupid.
Shadamyfags, Sonallyfags, and especially Shadougefags after hearing that they aren't even friends.
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>>553949123
These mandates are easy to write for.
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>>553948671
>this is what humans and blobians want
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>>553949130
._. my god you’re right
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>>553949123
You now understand why Sonic is not popular in Japan.
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We had an AI writing a better storyline than what Evan Stanley put out so maybe we should get AI to write stories.s
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>>553949123
You are allowed to put romance in IDW right now, you are not allowed to break established characterization for the sake of romance. At least according to Ian. The reason Tangle and Whisper cannot date is because that is adding a character beat to them that wasn't in their pitch. They are Sega characters now so they can't advance like that.
You are allowed to make an OC fall for Sonic, IDW early issues show that women fall in love with Sonic quickly. You can't have Sonic reciprocate in part because he legitimately would not do that and because Sega is still pissy about Archie.
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>>553949230
I didn't say it was hard to write for, I said why the fuck would anyone write for it? You're basically forced to write the most barebones, basic bitch ass plot you can think of. We're talking about Season 3&4 of Dexter's Lab level of boring here.
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>>553949123
Nothing but SoL. If that's your thing, then you won.
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>>553949401
Because you still have lots of creative freedom and Sega takes any decent idea and makes it affect the series for years
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>>553949175
Too far

>>553949401
It definitely explains why most of Sonic X is never remembered except Season 3
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>>553948331
Well he should give a shit about Tails, that’s not an excuse
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>>553949130
Well I guess I better get started then
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>>553949370
Yeah characters have to be in a pre-established relationship.
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>>553949557
Season 3 worked because it was one storyline that ended itself same with Prime

EVAN STANLEY HATES THAT so IDW SUFFERS
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>>553949537
>Because you still have lots of creative freedom and Sega takes any decent idea and makes it affect the series for years
Nigger what? Ian and Evan literally cannot even address what Shadow is personally thinking without thought bubbles because of how autistic SOJ about him.
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/hyJrOfAEXHE
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>>553949623
Oh no. Stop right there.
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>>553949535
>>553949679
This is cute. Could you do Shadow or Tails?
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>>553949721
That is fine Have you seen some of their ideas It's good that sega's restricting them
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>>553949123
I think it's important to note that Sonic team breaks these rules sometimes, like vector and Money.
I'm pretty sure these are used to mostly get other writers and reel them back from making potentially big changes they had no say in or lead to a another pendering.
Like Silver's future not being explored, and Major character development means they don't have to worry about what someone else did in IDW even more so when it's "canon" so they might get more backlash if they don't follow new ideas introduced in it.
Basically don't be canon and you are safe like Movie Sonic.
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>>553949721
>because of how autistic SOJ about him.
This is a good thing.
Ian and Evan need someone to hold their leash.
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>>553949537
>you still have lots of creative freedom
>Can't even explain how internal world logic works because money can't exist
Legitimately at this point, If I had to deal with these mandates, I would simply just quit my fucking job and write something else. If I can't even introduce basic world building elements because the people controlling this franchise are a bunch of incompetent idiots then what's the point in even trying?
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>>553949721
Anyone who understands Shadow approves of this

Violet, Krack, AAR, Sparky.
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>>553949908
I would rather be canon and just be optional
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>>553949940
At this point in the entertainment industry world building is a substitute for good writing.
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>>553949908
Movie Sonic still suffers from the usual mandates, Sonic being some vague wind concept that can't date, Tails being pathetic, Knuckles being stupid and Shadow being Vegeta are all there. You can bet Sonic 4 will have girlboss Amy.
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>>553950206
That's not Shadow or Tails
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>>553950263
>Sonic being some vague wind concept that can't date
To be fair he's in a world not filled with anthropomorphic animals and they treat him more like he's 13 in that movie so...
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>>553949908
I'd assume people know that the assumption with the mandates are that they are only applicable outside of Sonic Team and SEGA themselves. if ST wanted to make a game where Shadow is friends with Team Dark, working for GUN, and intentionally escalating situations while arguing about what he wants, they can do that no problem.
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>>553949940
Mario makes this work
Scooby Doo makes this work
Doctor Who makes this work
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>>553949849
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>>553949950
I'm all for bashing on Evan and Ian and calling for their public hangings for the sins they have committed against the franchise but take a step back and please think about this rationally for a second and assume that Ian or Evan are writing.
Like let's assume there's actually a decent writer on this franchise for once in it's existence....how the fuck are they supposed to write or even address Shadow's existence without basically doing exactly what IDW has been doing with him already which is just a way to artificially raise the stakes? I mean seriously, what the fuck else are you even supposed to do with him? You can't write a story about him because you can't explore what he's thinking about and he's barely supposed to talk. Not even Batman is this autistic and Batman is supposed to be a show-don't-tell type of comic series.
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>>553947318
>>Sonic can't ask for help
Sonic in the games is extremely capable at all times and already said he hates asking for help.
>>Sonic can't fail in a permanent manner
Self explanetory, most main characters have this mandate in some way
>>sonic does not cry (tears are allowed if there is some other reason)
Sonic isn't a little bitch like in Archie
>>Sonic is not romantic
Only Archie and Satamfags struggle to comprehend this concept
>>Shadow doesn't argue about something he wants to do, he just does it
See above
>>Shadow does not deliberately escalate a situation if he can avoid it
Shoneniggers who don't play the games struggle with this one
>>Shadow does not work for GUN
Archie literally made this up. Shadow never worked for GUN
>>Shadow and Team Dark are not friends or a unit
Archie made this up too. They were never friends
>>shadow cannot lose if he takes off his inhibitor rings
Why would you even do this
>>Sonic must be a space alien (defunct but actually stated as one of the mandates paramount had to follow)
Iizuka's 2 worlds bullshit
>>shadow cannot be comic relief
Obviously
>>no overly goofy expressions
This isn't loony tunes
>>mono eyed characters have two eyes when they close them
Yeah this one sucks
>>the master emerald cannot be used to gain powers or a super form
Reasonable
>>Money can't be addressed
Without this rule Ian and Evan would write therapy circle stories about the economy of Sonic's world
>>No long term character developments
Because IDW isn't supposed to be the main event
>>Do not explore Silver's future
See above
>>no third party characters
No shit
>>Shadow can swim
This one is hilarious
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>>553950263
Isn't Shadow being an edgelord more because Fowler just likes Shadow like that.
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>>553950558
>Iizuka's 2 worlds bullshit
Tails Tube explicitly decanonized that.
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>>553950308
This is their son, born after Tails impregnated Shadow's Black Arms eggs
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>>553950558
>Self explanetory, most main characters have this mandate in some way
Not Spider-Man, if anything he fails too much and the writers need to chill out.
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>Iconic rivalries
>Infinite
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Oh, I'm talking to Slashy.
Nevermind. I'm done replying. Kill yourself on livestream Slashy. It'd make everyone happier.
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>>553950647
A being so powerful she had to be locked away
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>>553950453
Goes against my narrative, so shut up.
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>>553949940
Sonic doesn't have a world. It's just diet Earth. Barely any lore or special aspects of the franchise are taken seriously, unless it's ST NOT wanting to do something.

This is why so many people have fun with fanfic of this series, because it never mattered to ST to explore anything.
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>>553950690
It's iconic how much we make fun of him
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>>553950685
modern spider man is what Sonic would turn into if Ian didn't have mandates controlling his bullshit. Just look at Archie leading up to the Super Genesis Wave
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>>553950690
Infinite's season stamps were found in Rumble files apparently, so he is not completely gone yet, he will come at some point. Fuck that lame wolf I want my Mephiles instead
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>>553950469
Only use Shadow when it is a very serious situation.
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So why was Prime able to seemingly ignore multiple mandates?
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>>553950632
Close enough. Thanks!
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>>553951014
The only mandate prime broke that IDW wasn't allowed to was featuring humans and calling the world earth
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>>553950696
This is cope that you are losing.
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>>553950995
You mean like IDW does? Like literally exactly how they use him and Shadowfags (rightfully) bemoan how abused he is? Because that's exactly how IDW uses him.
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>>553950696
coping idw fag blaming opposition because he lost

no one here fucking cares
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>>553951141
No he was poorly used in Urban Warfare. It was not a serious situation.
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>>553951127
>cheezburger
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All evan had to do was write episodic stories, but instead they treated IDW as an ongoing story
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Hey Slashy, instead of obsessing about Evan out of sheer seething jealousy because no one can finish any of your stories, why don't you learn how to take care of yourself and learn how to cook basic shit like rice and ramen noodles?
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>>553950995
No, because I already have the rest of the cast there.
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>mandates are bad
Stop lying to yourselves. The only people seething about the mandates are the IDW tourists who are secretly just Archie refugees in denial. You don't actually want a "game accurate" comic; you want your furry soap opera back.
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Does Sonic need more reoccurring villains?
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Game characterizations and mandates mean nothing to me anymore when they do shit like this
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Evan is a better writer than Slashy, AAR and Violet combined. She actually finishes her stories. Now watch him cope.
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How bad will be his return?
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I hate that current Amy gives washed up Karen trying to still act cutesy below her age instead of whatever Zara Larsson and Pinkpantheress got going on
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I think it's fun trying to write while sticking to official characterizations...
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>>553951384
Rice is not basic, there's a million different variations of it and the water ratio is always off so it's too wet, too dry, undercooked, overcooked, I'll stick to eating rosarita beans out of the can.
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>>553951383
Yeah i see people here saying there needs to be longer stories. Please no, it takes too long to make the comics as is. Just do what Usagi Yojimbo does for christ sake.
https://youtu.be/cLkJm4bS6Dw?si=dCIn0MpojcsdmLQa
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>>553950558
Mono eye is just a style, they actually have two eyes anyways, which is likely why they have two when closing.
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>>553951304
But does she jiggle?
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>>553951746
NOOOOOO WHY ARE THEY EATING TOGETHER THEYRE NOT EVEN FRIIIIEEEENNNDDDDDSSSS!!!!
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WELL?

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THEIR INCLUSION??
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>>553951743
Why are we talking about rice?
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Evan is a better writer than Slashy.
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>>553951901
I dont care bro I feel like a beaten mule they'll be written like shit slop anyways
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>>553951670
People who don't read the Sonic Channel stories will get mad they are trying to redeem him now when he was redeemed 3 years ago
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>>553951891
oh neat a comic in english
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>>553951607
>She actually finishes her stories
>Her first (and only) Archie story ended up on a cliffhanger
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>>553951901
I want them to kiss
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>>553951901
They got hit with the ugly stick.
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The only game that has Rouge and Shadow act anything like friends is because the entire world was going to be evil and persecute Shadow.
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>>553952006
She never finished GOTF either.
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>>553951708
They're trying way too hard to make her the "mom" of the group
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>>553951384
Coping idw fan says what? Slashy is literally a billionaire and idw will be canceled before its 100th issue lol.
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Isn't Amy 12 years old?
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>>553951746
Why is this guy so obsessed with giving Rouge a wig and potraying Sally as a pregnant woman?
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>>553952017
exactly fellow shadowxister!!! he's just like heckin me because he has ZERO friends!!!! yaaaaaay!!
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>>553951901
Useless token lesbians that only woke spergs like
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>>553952151
And you're Violet.
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>>553952079
And it's uncanny because the combination of doing that while still trying to have her act cutesy sometimes in crossworlds with that awful hag voice Cindy gives her keeps giving me the mental image of the most stringy 40 yr old woman trying to act like a school girl and pretending like shes still 16 instead of actually earnestly giving teenage girl
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>>553951998
>People who don't read the Sonic Channel stories
You mean the vast majority of the fanbase because they don't fucking advertise their backwater untranslated site?
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>>553951384
>35 year old man doesn't know how to cook ramen noodles
Please tell me this is a joke or exaggeration. I know he's autistic but he can't be that dysfunctional right? I mean it's literally just boiling water.
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Can I get the Cream guy back instead of this autism?
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>>553950938
>Fuck that lame wolf I want my Mephiles instead
He is a jackal you moron.

>>553951998
>His redemtion is as terrible as his villainy
This character attracts nothing but the worst, doesn't it? He's more cursed than Silver somehow.
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>>553952135
crunchy boobs
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Wait is all the IDW discussion today just from that guy who has an obsession with a namefag because he does not like the comic?
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>>553952154
She "was" but since ages were erased, they've been trying to age her up into being more like an "adult" which has had disastrous consequences for her character and her dynamic with Cream
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>>553952381
At least her voice was fitting in Sonic Boom. I kinda miss her valley girl voice.
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Amy's character is still the exact same in the japanese versions lol
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>sweet Gaia below does this guy ever shit up
Amy will say this in the next movie
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>>553952414
Slashy legally cannot take care of himself. It's not an exaggeration. He doesn't know how to do basic stuff like laundry and cooking. He can only get a job through special needs programs.
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>>553951708
Amy exists to market and nothing else now.
The problem with Amy is just that she exists.
You could make the best version of erself and she'd still be hated, no one can truly agree on what Amy should be.
I hate this world.and those who have done this to Amy...
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>>553952571
>>553952575
Lisa Ortiz was Amy's best VA. She made Amy sound her age and was good for voicing sad moments in Sonic X and the games
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>>553952414
It does not matter I fucking hate Slashy for ruining IDW for me.
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>>553952435
Many of these characters weren't meant for regular outings. Infinite just got the displeasure of being introduced in an era of shit, still like his design but that's about all he's got going for him.
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>>553952435
jax is a cool guy
I hope the clown gets through to him
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>>553952780
Who is Slashy anyway? I been hearing about her for a while now. Is she a twitter artist or something?
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>>553952414
"H-he can't cook!! Evan Stanley is a great artist! He's just fuming!"

Okay but he literally has enough money to commission enough artists to sway the billion-dollar franchise while you're yelling into a void chasm.
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>>553952571
>ages were erased
So Sonic porn isn't considered cp anymore?
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>>553952735
If Amy went through a character arc people who accept what she is, she just didn't go through anything and randomly change as Sega pleases
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how did the oceans waters not fall into the earths crust during unleashed
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Shadow isn't rouge's friend
Shadow isn't Amy's shoulder to cry on after Sonic rejects her
Shadow is a dick
Shadow is edgy
Shadow has no romantic interest in anyone and never will
Shadow doesn't like Sonic as a person

Sonic is not a huckster
Sonic isn't going to "Slow down" for any girl
Sonic literally thinks Romance is a stupid waste of time and always will
Sonic doesn't have any gay little fartchie flaws
Your headcanons are all OOC
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>>553952780
IDW was already ruined with Evan Stanley's piss poor writing and the discontinuity. Surge just decided to let Eggman go because Evan literally wrote herself into a corner.
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>>553953052
fiction be like that
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VALLEY GIRL AMY IS BEST AMY
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>>553952657
And I hate that Sega feels the west needs to be sheltered from it
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>me being here instead of doing anything else
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>>553952965
Ages aren't entirely removed. This is what Charmy says to Tails in Crossworlds
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>>553952780
His "opinion" is literally printed on the pages you pay for, retard. When the writer treats the main cast like his personal OCs and ignores a decade of characterization, it stops being an opinion and starts being the reason the book is trash.

Keep coping, tourist. Maybe if you buy ten more covers they'll finally write a good story.
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>>553952965
Only Cream, Tails, Marine, Maria, and Sage are kids now.
Everyone else is just vaguely younger or older.
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>>553952564
Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
>>553952703
Poor fella.
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>>553953128
True
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>>553952905
A very autistic and dysfunctional "person" who has spent the almost the entire last decade coming on here on a daily basis to try and prove to everyone how smart he is. He does this because back in 2015/16 he was a mod for AAR's (an old drawfag) livestream when she hosted it here and he got mentally broken when people called him unintelligent. Since then he's grown an obsession towards Evan developed out of jealousy because he feels like he's smarter than her and Ian but can't write and can't draw so he hires people to do it for him and they never deliver, in fact half the time they start making fun of him with the rest of the thread.

Also, it's not hyperbolic to call him severely autistic. He is clinically diagnosed as being a mid-functioning autist. He's basically one or two IQ points away from being a CWC. There's also a shit load of drama about him that is hilarious and embarrassing to him but I don't remember even half of it.
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Slashy is a Sonamy/Sonallyfaggot so he can't judge IDW for mischaracterization
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>>553953094
lol this is u
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>>553953094
So Sonic and Shadow are loser incels that would be insufferable irl, got it, thanks Sega
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>>553952735
>Amy exists to market and nothing else now.
She never existed for anything else but to be a supporting "love interest", and the fact people are pretending there was something good about her is baffling to me. She is just some losers waifu but they are too afraid to admit it.
>>553952764
She sounded like a whinny bitch.
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>>553953386
Do you have evidence for any of this? All of this sounds like your typical /sthg/ user.
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>>553953247
*Kisses you*
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>>553952965
explicit ages are gone but age groups remain so the child characters are still children.
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>>553953386
You literally just revealed you are a seething IDW fag.
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>>553953485
I mean I could post his doxx but then I'll get banned for a week like last time and I don't feel like doing that.
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>>553953481
No because everyone is mandated to love them and talk about how great they are
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>>553953414
A recently deceased tapeworm could judge IDW for mischaracterization it's so blatantly obvious. It's running on fumes and there's nothing "Sonic" about it.
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>>553953386
This just sounds like male Krack. What is the problem here?
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>>553953530
Oh now you like my Sonic...
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>>553953484
this, Amy has no purpose but to sell toys to little girls.
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>>553953281
What they've done to the ages is far worse than what it was before because now it's just this wide gap with no nuance which leads to everyone thats "vaguely" older than those characters to be some kind of pseudo parental figure with a flat dynamic. It's just ages 6-10 and then we have a bunch of 18 to 20 year olds is how theyre framing it. Cream and Amy never used to be this boring because they were framed as being closer in age than now
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>>553953231
Girly girls are repulsive to millennial and zoomer feminists so they have to turn Amy into a mature and independent girlbosses
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>>553953698
>Krack is a disfuntional person
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>>553953604
Explain to me how you are a normal person and not a psycho
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>>553953698
At least Krack actually likes Sonic.
Slashy is a ponyfag LARPing as a Sonicfag because he has a fetish for getting into fights with people.
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>>553951901
I like Tangle and I hate Whisper. If they get included in future games here's hoping they barley interact with each other so their characters improve greatly
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>>553953530
>clip from the “just a guy” episode
>people legitimately can’t tell that “guy” is meant to mean “regular person”
Why is everyone so stupid now
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>>553953759
Cream stole Amy's personalty and should be hung for it.
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>>553953776
I mean yes How is she a functional person.
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>>553953881
>now
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>>553953847
>At least Krack actually likes Sonic.
Shadow. She likes Shadow. She is obsessed with Shadow. She doesn't care about Sonic or the rest of the IP if they are not about Shadow.
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>>553953881
omg sonic fans keep getting dumber by the year
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>>553953916
Sorry I meant to say she gets hung guys for it.
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>>553953847
That's funny because Slashy commissions thousands of Sonic art pieces every year. He's more of a Sonic fan than you'll ever be.
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>>553953953
This wasn’t a problem when the episode came out
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>>553953820
I wasn't even the person who doxxed him. That was another namefag who, for all intents and purposes, was justified in doing so because Slashy scammed him out of like 200 dollars and several hours of his life. I just saved the name and link because I know it makes his anxiety go up when I mention it. I like making him anxious and stressed because he deserves it.
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>>553953386
We get it, you're a seething IDW fag who can't handle anyone criticizing your precious queerbaiting comic. You wrote an entire essay about some "who?" from 2015 just because he doesn't like Ian or Evan?

Take your meds, schizo. Nobody cares about this ancient livestream drama except you. It's honestly pathetic how hard the IDW defense force tries to assassinate the character of anyone who doesn't worship the metal virus arc. Go back to Twitter.
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>>553953916
Elephants are hung.
People are hanged.
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>>553953775
>millennial and zoomer feminists
They should be listening to the gen alpha ones who love Kpop Demon Hunters and music artists like pink and zara for being girly girls. When Sega finally realizes their mistake its going to be too fucking late
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>>553954038
Krack is an actual Sonic fan who understands the characters. If you put Slashy up against a JP purist or windfag they will tear him apart over his takes.
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>>553954142
>When Sega finally realizes their mistake its going to be too fucking late
Happens every time with them.
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>>553954142
It’s only the millennials like Ian who hate girly girls.
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I should also note that posts like these >>553954087 are almost definitely Violet because he is the only person who comes here regularly who is willing to defend him for the sake of shitposting. You can watch this exact behavior play out in the sthg discord him and Violet are in.
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as much as I want to be tolerant I have never met a tranny that wasn't insufferable in other ways, I don't even think most actually have gender dysphoria as much as they were just trying to be counter-cultural and anti-Western civilization
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>>553954156
Krack is a Shadow-only fan, anon. She doesn't care about the series, the games, the movies, the cartoons, the comics, the mangas or anime if these have nothing to do with Shadow the Hedgehog.
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>>553954086
This has nothing to do with Sonic. Stop bringing up bullshit namefag drama.
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>>553954292
>OC baby
Suddenly I don't like Silvisper anymore
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>>553954253
What is the point of their market research department that theyre still this bad for over two decades
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>>553954314
I haven't met a Sonic fan that wasn't insufferable either. Does that mean Sonic fans are trannies too?
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>>553953775
Sega hasn't been pandering to millennials since Frontiers and then entirely abandoned them when Superstars flopped.
Amy current personality is merely a leftover from the Meta Era and Sega is trying to work around it by making her obsessed with tarot cards.
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>>553954142
Millenials and zoomers hate girly girls unless they're disgusting lipstick lesbians. They're hypocrites who say that traditional gender roles are oppressive and outdated but don't apply that homosexual couples in which each member plays a masculine or feminine role respectively
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>>553954391
Every ship does that at some point. You were a fool to expect otherwise.
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>>553954314
I once met a trans guy (girl?) who was alright, over a fucking decade ago
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>>553954142
We have official K-Pop idols in Sonic before Zoomer hunters was a thing stupid newfags
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>>553952208
Funny how everyone who brings up how retarded IDW is gets called "Violet." idgaf about the namefag drama idw just sucks that much.
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At any moment I could just leave this place and never have to deal with you retards again.
Yet I still come here nearly everyday and persist. I don't know why.
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>>553954562
You niggers just say shit like its a fact. You dont know a god damn thing about what I like
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>>553954385
This person is obsessed they already said so earlier because slashy ruined the comic for them. You cannot talk sense to them you just got to ignore them.
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>>553954391
most heterosexuals have children, faggot
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>Tranny fails to identify ragebait and ragebaits in response to feel better.
You really are no better than him.
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>>553954296
Not your fucking tranny I just hate you for shitting up the thread with your obsessive namefag drama.
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>>553954576
there is a tiny minority of trannies who actually feel like they were born the wrong sex and don't see it as a cultural or political statement
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>Slashy claims to understand the characters more than Evan
>ships Sonic
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>>553954775
Slinger and Smithy, my beloveds...
>paws
niiice
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>>553954736
you like boys teehee
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>>553954569
Is despicable. Dadow is the only headcanon of these I can accept
>>553954784
Die
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>>553954784
>knuxouge
in your dreams
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>>553954902
Violet is not even in the thread. I can tell her posts very easily because she always talks about how great SATAM is or posts cream.
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>>553954968
>posts homosexual art thinking its "fatherly"
I guess being reminded you'll never breed would piss you off
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>>553954536
Why don't they give her girly hobbies like drawing, making bracelets, and protecting animals in a wildlife sanctuary? It's so much better
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Yea, I'm leaving. I'll come back in a few hours when all the schizos, trannies and autists leave. Hope you all get hit by a semi, stop ruining my general.
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>>553954718
You're not understanding the point being made. Kpop is not the highlight of Kpop demon hunters and more that they were able to make female protagonists be silly annoying girls that are unapologetically feminine and go boy crazy and have it make millions
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>>553954939
Ben Hurst shipped Sonic and the 4th movie will ship sonic you retard
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>>553954729
>I don't know why
We always know why no matter how much we try to hide it from ourselves
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>>553955191
So they both don't understand the character
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>>553954775
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>553955134
>Two men hugging
>Immediately think about mansex
Want to tell us something anon?
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>>553955191
Do you have any evidence that Fowler will ship Sonic or are you just huffing copium?
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When will Sega marketing realize that Sonadow sells?
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>>553954041
Nutritional deficiencies from not being able to cook ramen or rice
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Serge color
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>>553955191
Evan ships SonAmy I have no idea what these anons are talking about.
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>>553954536
the tarot card shit is so painfully close to star sign shit, it just makes her more annoying
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>>553955301
Sells what? Who is Sonadow?
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>>553955301
Never because they know that garbage wouldn't sell anywhere in the Middle East or China and for good reason too
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I can smell the fucking samefagging from the catalogue. This board needs poster IDs so fucking badly man.
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>>553955301
They called it Sonic X Shadow for a reason
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>>553955191
>Ben Hurst
the reasons Americans don't understand Sonic's character?
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>>553955143
> like drawing, making bracelets, and protecting animals in a wildlife sanctuary?
Because other characters already do these things.
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>>553955191
Sonic and Amy will go on a date and it'll be the same awkward Hollywood failed date gag we've seen in a thousand movies and TV shows. Sonic will realize he can't fall in love because he's like the wind and Amy will learn to become more independent and strong and whatever.
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>>553955549
That would include you.
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>>553955646
> and it'll be the same awkward Hollywood failed date gag we've seen in a thousand movies and TV shows.
Just like how many Sonic stories and characters in games and comics have tropes done in countless anime, manga and movies. I fail to see the problem.
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What are some Rosemary approved ships?
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>>553955834
This is an awful character
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>>553955558
No they don't. I've never seen any Sonic character have those hobbies
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>Slashy using BEN HURST to describe Sonic
Yeah Evan is a step up from you in every way
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>>553955143
>gendered hobbies
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>>553955834
niggas will really say we cant have new characters from silver's future because it'll be too much while dogshit like this got made while the series already had too many characters
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>>553954156
Krack doesn't understand anything about Sonic. All she cares about is Shadow. She's fundamentally just a Shadow yume. Everything she cares about- she cares about because of Shadow. She does not even play the games.
>>553955968
Ben Hurst understood Sonic.
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>>553955968
It is retarded because the poster was already trying to claim that Evan does not ship Sonic.

She is more obsessed with romance than anyone.
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>>553955143
Knuckles does all those things.
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>>553955968
You're more obsessed with Slashy than he is with Evan.
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>>553956091
>while the series already had too many characters
Including Silver
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>>553956130
I guess the anon is trying to pretend Evans "hate Amy/sonamy" because in her fancomic, Evan shipped Sonic, Shadow and Tikal in a polyamorous relationship.
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You know typically when you're trying to hide the fact you're posting on here, you don't start signaturing your posts not even 10 minutes after you claim you're not in here.
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>>553952571
The characters are and will always be their intended ages. Hiding their ages from a profile on a website doesn't erase the concepts of those characters and decades of history.

>>553952965
It never was, you're just mentally ill.
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>>553956130
Anon, the guy already said he hates Slashy because he shits on IDW. You have to have a poor understanding of Sonic to appreciate IDW.
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>>553956107
So true twin.
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>>553956264
That is because Amy is dead. If they read GOTF they would know Sonic had a relationship with Amy while they were alive.
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>>553956310
Only people who hate Sonic like IDW.
IDW sucks. It is written by people who do not understand the wind.
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>>553956184
>Knuckles draws
Since when?
>Making bracelets
I cannot recall him doing this
>protecting animals
Ok this one is true according to the opening of his campaign, and that one IDW story showing him like that, and the Frontiers animation.
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>>553956272
Violet is extremely unintelligent. please be patient.
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Evan understands Sonic and Slashy and VIolent don't
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>>553956285
>doesn't erase the concepts of those characters and decades of history.
It doesn't, but sega is trying their darndest to achieve that on the western side at least. Amy still gets to be herself in jp while they push hagmy onto the west
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>>553956285
That's what I wish more people would understand. Nothing convince me that the child characters remained children while everyone else aged. It's logically inconsistent
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What is it about Tails that led kids in the 90s and early 2000s to go
>that's a girl right?
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>>553956448
Then why does IDW suck ass? None of the characters make sense?
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>>553956272
>>553956438
She argued Sparky to a stalemate
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>>553956419
Well I know Amy is dead, but that other anon is possibly ignorant of context just to push this agenda of theirs. Shippers are obsessed with ignoring context.

>>553956425
Stop talking like RandomFox, Violet.
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>>553956438
Why would I be trying to hide my posts on here? Most of the time people say I'm posting it's not me.
You are really bad at telling apart my posts.
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i dont know who AccidentalFox is, but the general has become unusable since you started to posting his tumblr or fucking talking about the wind every thread
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>>553956553
his feminine allure
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>>553956581
Yeah and RandomFox was able to get Sparky to concede, your point?
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>>553956553
Supposedly he was a girl in the Spanish dub of AOSTH, but it’s mostly just kids being complete snot nosed retards.
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>>553956553
Furries. That's it.
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>>553956485
It's just mischaracterization and forced political garbage, it would happen regardless of Sonic Channel listing the ages or not.
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>>553949623
I looks like he plays with rocks and sticks
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>>553956698
Randomfox is smarter than most posters here.
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It's time to go back in your shitty discord and dilate.
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>>553956438
She wouldn't be having a meltdown just because someone said Satam is bad. You're projecting.
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Evan is a better writer than Slashy and Violet.
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>>553956710
>AoStH Tails as a little girl
Hmmm
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>>553956610
Why wouldn't we talk about Sonic in the Sonic thread?
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Evan in all her shit writes better than slashy and violet, who instead AI.
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>>553956609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvxsLNFCVaw
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All of you have reasonable takes on Sonic unlike me. I would ruin the entire franchise. I should be kept away from Sonic.
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>>553956931
>>553956931
because we have Shadow
and Surge
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What would you do if a younger version of your boyfriend gave you flowers?
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>>553956850
You've never even read anything by Slashy or Violet you illiterate troglodyte. Go back to enjoying your IDW slop. It's what you deserve.
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>>553956991
We know, Ian
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>>553946416
While that's true in the UK and probably some other countries, depends what Monarchy Alicia is running over here.
It says she was the ruler of Mobius, which means she probably has a bit more power than King Charles, who is these days more of a figurehead of Britain more than he is an actual enactor of change.
In days of old, the Monarch would be in charge of taxes and money and how it was spent, and would by and large be considered the Ruler of the land. So we can assume Alicia or at least her advisors would sort the tax policy out.
But she's considered a good Queen and a good person and we need her back in ways that only fairytales can realistically pull off, so we have to assume taxes were fair and she was kind and that the place ran well.
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>>553956773
Sure.

>>553956850
Whatever happened to Projared, anyway?
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>>553957004
>Shadow
The black wind
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So when Violet stops being groomed by Slashy and puts out one of those callout posts calling him a rapist, how is he going to make it the fault of the Sonic franchise?
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>>553948547
It's because you were in second place why I said sorry and left
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>>553955143
Or just have Amy travel the world, seeking adventures, sightseeing while helping people in need along the way and hoping she will bump into Sonic along the way
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>>553957047
IIRC he was shown a complete story slashy paid for and memory holed it
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>>553956583
I'm not RandomFox because I'm not insane enough to call for Ian Flynn's murder.
That said if all the IDW staff were fired and replaced with Outcome Memories Fans, well, they'd likely be much better at coming up with cool, entertaining stories, that respect the source material rather than just trying to recreate Archie again.
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Remember the interfucked (genetically handicapped) tranny known as violet uses chatgpt to argue online, and admitted so when she picked on sparky into exhaustion.
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Twitter Battlefield General
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>>553956850
Slashy's not a writer
>>553957047
Not that anon, but I have "read" Slashy's works, some of Violets and enough of Evans. I like Evan's more than those two.
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>>553957302
Outcome memories is very popular why is that?
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>>553957185
He'll probably just go back to stalking and lurking on the reddit server to try and find another inexperienced artist/writer to groom to be his mouthpiece for a year or two before the cycle repeats itself.
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Silver will defend women rights!
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>>553957302
Sure they'd respect the source material until their internal desires shine through and now we have 70 different sonic.exe reskins as main villains
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>>553957185
Corretion, slashy is so stupid he's the one groomed by violet.
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>>553957304
You pick on sparky too so shut up
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>>553957047
What's this about?
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>>553957221
Ian...
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>>553957057
I meant Aleena, I forgot her name.
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Sonic Underground is happening in real life

Queen Aleena is Reza Pahlavi
Dr. Robotnik is Ali Khamenei
The resistance are the Iranian people and their supporters
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>>553957509
Thanks for admitting.
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>>553957451
Silver used his powers to simulate period cramps so now he knows the struggle.
Shadow gets period cramps as well, but that's not important.
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>>553957674
Not Violet I am just saying you do not care about Sparky either.
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>>553957237
I'm interested in what the story is about, which is more than anything I can say about Evan Stanley's writing.
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>>553957406
They have Sonic be the wind.
>>553957492
They'd still be cooler villains than Clutch and Lunar.
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I like how Violet simultaniously wants to be "le ebin shitposter tranny" but also wants to be taken seriously and genuinely. You can't have both, faggot. Especially when you're not even smart enough to make a separate shitposting persona like most of us do.
Maybe try lurking for another 10 years and you'll get the hang of it.
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>>553957302
I have no idea what Outcome Memories even is.
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krack should go back to her server and stop being a dramatic attentionwhore.
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>>553957706
Does Rouge sleep upside down?
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krack should come to my room
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>>553957783
>They'd still be cooler villains than Clutch and Lunar
You know what...yeah I'll give you that, but its still too derivative of main sonic continuity that we'd just end up in a different set of problems
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>>553957734
And i say thank you for admitting, i have a clean conscience.
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>>553957776
It was about the Zeti raiding a party and holding world leaders hostage because they view the Wisps as lesser beings.
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>his evolution across decades
>He didn't change at all in 2 decades literally
Lmaooooooo
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>>553957495
Yeah but when they break up Violet's totally going to play it as Slashy was the abuser and groomer
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>>553957706
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>>553957940
Different problems that are still less bad than our current problems.
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>>553957795
Cybershell does both
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>>553954736
you don't have enough money for your opinion to matter
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>>553957795
Violet is actually proud of her correct takes and has no need of validation from idiots such as yourself. Go back to twitter and create a few alt accounts so you can like your own tweets.
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>>553958035
I'm not dating Slashy and I find it weird you think this.
I'm also an adult. I'm engaged to my fiance.

Please talk about Sonic.
One thing I find interesting about Sonic is that nobody talks about the challenge stages in Sonic Generations despite them being a majority of the game's content. I've been playing through generations on my switch 2 and I've been s-ranking each mission, trying to get the best possible time. It's incredibly fun and in line with the arcade spirit of Sonic gameplay. I wish more people would talk about them.
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>>553958035
I hope, after all 2 degenerates can only rot further.
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>>553957185
I don't think Slashy is that kind of person, but I think the promise of money to a writer that's starting out, could just really use it or believes that it will help them get their name out there is something that a lot of people might pick up.
I don't blame the writers he ends up dragging into this revolving door of "Anon can write better than Ian and Evan LOOK", it's easy to fall into something like this.
But that's all it's used for, it's not because Slashy wants to see an idea of his come to life, it's not because he wants to support someone else, all this gets used for is just argument fuel on a website for weebs to shitpost how much they want to fuck the latest comic oc. No wonder they get burnt out, no wonder no-one finishes the stories, no wonder Slashy's still seething about it.
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>>553957406
Kids love mild cheesy horror mixed with familiar properties
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Fun fact: Bats are very social and will often feed other bat that didn't manage to get any food.
So rougedespite being a Gem autist Kleptomaniac, she'd probably love someone very deeply.
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>>553958078
Less bad than current problems does not mean good. Please get higher standards, the bar is so low. If the only merit something has is just being slightly better than something that is trash and is unable to be propped up on it's own merits, its not good.
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My hyper specific headcanon that no one will ever talk me out of is that Sonic has sentimental claim over the green Chaos Emerald and Shadow has sentimental claim over the red one.
That is to say, if the two met each other on even ground and they noticed they had the other's CE in their possession they would wordlessly trade the emeralds and not talk about it.

You will never convince me out of this headcanon.
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>>553958326
actually it means that she's very racist
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>>553957958
This sounds really cool! Is this available online?
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>I'm also an adult
You certainly don't act like one.
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>>553958206
Violet is proud of getting fisted every day!
And yet xhe comes here for more fisting.
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>>553958419
This is Why Shadow isn't friends with her.
Rouge off screen calls him every slur, then says she joking afterwards.
Horrible creature, when will rouge finally pay for her crimes...
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>>553958509
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Violet would lose every argument with Randomfox
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NGH
SEX WITH AMY
SEX WITH WHISPER
SEX WITH CREAM
SEX WITH LANOLIN
SEX WITH ROUGE
SEX WITH TANGLE
SEX WITH MOVIE SONIC
SEX WITH VANILLA
IMPREGNATE THEM ALL
UNG
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>>553958539
https://pdfhost.io/v/sTZSr9pypR_Sonic_Zeti_Comic_-_Issue_1__ver2_

Let me get the rest uploaded but that is the first chapter.
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>>553958791
based boy impregger
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If Sonic team were smart they'ed make more shortstacks like rouge, and make human X blobian even more common.
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>>553958007
he evolved (in gameplay and as a character) for the first decade then it all came crumbling down for the next two
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>>553958827
Chapter 2
https://pdfhost.io/v/RsV6T6PpeL_The_Deadly_Ball_Issue_2_-_Ver_2
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>>553958791
Why Movie Sonic...
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>i don't date slashy even though i'm always with him in the thread bringing up drama
>please listen to my shitty takes even though i don't need validation
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>>553958760
making out with whisper like kind of a lot
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>>553958783
How?
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Shadow doesn't give a shit about Rouge. She's a tool useful for achieving his goals and that's it.

Rouge is constantly manipulating Shadow and exploiting his ptsd to get what she wants.

Official statement from Sega is that they aren't even friends. Shadow will only ever love Maria. Rouge was literally designed for Knuckles.

If any of this makes you upset then you don't care about the characters.
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>>553958827
This is fucking garbage but I don't know what retard would say this is worse than Evan Stanley's writing.
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>>553958791
>impregnate a dude
HOLY BASED!!!!
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>>553959075
Randomfox's rule is simply based on examples straight from the games while Violet argues using interpretations based on interview statements and vibes
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>>553959092
You forgot Shadow does loves Silver deep down but hides his feelings away from himself.
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>>553959097
Well yeah when Violet read it she said it was too poisoned by later Archie writing but yeah not even she said this was worse than IDW.
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>>553952735
The problem with Amy is she's a sonic fan being written by people who never liked sonic or understood why anyone would (flynn, most of the cocksuckers at sega of america, and the archie editors that thought relationship drama will sell a sonic story)
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>>553958973
He's kinda fuckable ngl
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>>553959235
Her argument with Sparky was her using straight examples from games while sparky used vibes.

The only reason Violet would not lose to Randomfox is that she is not an extreme games purist.
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>>553957894
She did in Prime
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>>553958326
I wonder who that could be.
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>>553958791
>>553959125
Jimbotnik should be the one impregnating Movienic
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>>553959092
shadow gives a slight shit about rouge
rouge isn't a complete leech
sega is gay and has been jews trying (and succeeding) to ruin sonic since 9/11
cope and sneed
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>>553959279
gayslop but more in character than shitouge
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>>553959716
Shut up Soneggfag
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Soneggfag is alive?
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Well nothing else is happening that deserves attention so...
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>>553957221
because sega doesn't have the money to actually show that, if sonic's not there
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shadamy!
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>>553959279
Shadow thinks he is a pussy
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Tails having an incel chud arc to capitalize on the popularity of Nine when?
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>>553960089
Aesthetic slop for yumes
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>>553957820
vs saxton hale but for sonic
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>>553960118
>I've seen and endured more than you can imagine!
So Silver is still living in a shit future?
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>>553959678
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>>553960046
>>553960280
Based, continue
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>>553960207
High quality content for all people!
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sonurj
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Sonamy has always been canon.
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>>553960442
T. Amy Rosenberg
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>>553960365
>saved own screenshot award
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>>553960331
Always
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>>553960365
The dogfucker claim always felt like projection to me because Superbunnygt, the most prominent Tailshater in recent history got banned off of most of the internet because he literally recorded fucking his dog multiple times.
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>>553960365
EmuEmi and her own stalkers prove this is tailsfags everywhere
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>>553960207
okay but you can't deny the aesthetic goes hard
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>>553960331
These are verbs in the past
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>>553960589
That's pretty grim, how does he keep having hope when nothing is getting better in the future?
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>>553960280
>Michiyoshi
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>>553960405
https://files.catbox.moe/yz5z0w.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/vde9dc.mp4
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>>553960639
>her own stalkers
She wishes she has them
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>>553960626
>felt like
It IS projection, they’re always the ones to bring it up, same with the “tailspedo” shit
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>>553959732
Sneedow
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>>553960740
The future is already better.
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>>553960442
Yes
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Imagine being so insecure that you feel emasculated over a cartoon fox
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You’re getting older, anon. You will never be able to make love to a big tittied woman twice your age.
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>>553961191
A few years’ difference will do
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>>553936727
By this point you people are abusing what "out of haracter" even means.
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>>553961191
Not my fetish, sorry
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>Failsfags getting upity
Kek
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>>553961616
kek indeed
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>>553960740
I think eventually Sega will kill him
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>>553960831
She's such a happy cuck
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>>553949623
THAT YOU RPG GUY?
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>>553959827
never
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>>553961191
I never wanted that to begin with.
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Where is my Sonic X Doraemon crossover?
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>>553961091
>bigdad
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>>553960986
you can't even rival a fraction of my power
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>make characters who love sonic
>fans hate them
>make characters who hate sonic
>fans want them to fuck sonic
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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>>553961616
>upity
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>>553961091
>Bigdad
More like big oof.
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>>553961191
Spiritually I will always be a young fox boy. I just need to find my big fat bat tats soulmate.
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>>553961909
Maybe
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>>553962171
You never will if you stay here.
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>>553962151
>archie shit
>westshit
>the mediocre sonic channel image with blaze
you're a disingenuous faggot
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>>553962164
>empty hero worship
Yaaawn
>spicy emotions conflicting and spiking in sex
Gimme that
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>>553962224
Rpg man you are based, you the greatest everythingfag in the thread!
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>>553962339
Where do I go to find her?
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>>553962435
My basement, she only appears if you walk into the cage...
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>>553962409
>ADDRESS ME
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>>553962435
Outdoors. You wanna be cool like your hero, right?
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>>553962563
How about you get into the cage first anon.
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>>553962410
the only attention you get from women is hatred so you cope with a sexual tension fantasy
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How to fix amy: Gib human bf.
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>>553962584
>rush writing knuckles and amy like shit so the new faggot oc looks better
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>>553962409
>mad that in every universe, amy is cucked
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>>553962643
I don't want attention from women?
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>>553962584
sounds like Cream is saying Amy's love for Sonic is deranged but worded it nicely.
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>>553962726
This works for the other girls as well
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>>553962789
>writing knuckles and amy like shit
But every game does that
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>>553962803
>mad that your favorite female character flopped, and needs to suck sonic's dick to have any importance
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Shadow did it first
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>>553963045
my favorite female character isn't Amy tho
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>>553962835
because you gave up
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Female biological inferiority....
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>>553963202
>>553963202
>>553963202
You were too slow, now I made the OP.
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>>553963201
No no, I never wanted it.
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Windnic makes more sense with Surge than Amy. Amy would just slow him down.
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Every good character sucks Sonic off.
Amy is the exception.
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>>553963136
ahh, it's maria
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>>553963370
nope



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