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>>554050284

>The ID has to fit
No it doesn't. It never has.
They give it to whoever they want and either
>Change the sinner entirely to fit the character
>Change the character entirely to fit the sinner
If you actually believe it goes by matching you might be as retarded as the rashomonfags.

>>554050262
considering she's half blind(didn't notice lucio getting KAISER'D on her right), i'm pretty sure he actually did a lot for her

>>554049992
It's simply a fact that anything interesting about Hong Lu is either directly because of his sister or a trait of his sisters, he has no purpose

>>554050441
KJH
>>554050403
The IDs did have to kind of fit before desu, I think it was Xichunmael that just shat all over that

I am ready for the mental healing intervallo with two and a half patients.

>>554050441
She's not stupid.

>>554050441
The fact that using her sword lobotomies her ? Shut up Stupid Faust

>>554050403
You mean Faust isn't actually an insane racist in love with Sinclair?

>>554050441
it took araya literally sacrificing her existence to turn into a scabbard and reforge the chain to save her from the state of non-self, Stupid Faust

So why were all the Nursefather's booted from their positions? Do we get any info on that? I know Matthias betrayed some brothers for the Relic, but then why is he just deranked and still apart of the Middle?

>>554050492
Xichun only became a CEO because Hong really didn't give a shit about it and let her have it. But okay bro. She was so shit she needed a training arc along with Sinclair.

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i love her bros...

>house of spiders
>no spiders

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>>554050486
You can be totally blind and still scratch ur butt I think she's just lazy

>>554050390
kek
nice addition

>>554050457
>we've only seen one 'finger' on the 'hand' of his present(roach claw)
What are the other four going to be like? What fuckass singularities did hermann cram down his throat?

>>554050441
She's not THAT much stronger without the chain, there's no reason to put herself at risk and dying without a chance of revival.
She's like 15 levels higher than current sinners.

I'm a limbaby, when does the roadmap release usually

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sHIEEEEET

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OUR DANTE BUTTONS ARE A SAPLING OF LIFE, WHEN WE GET ALL THE BOUGHS THE TREE WILL BE COMPLETE

I simultaneously think:
1) This canto had too much focus on too many characters, they had to also fit in Distortion Detective, the sign, SUDDENLY ONE DAY, not-Roland all at once
2) Where is bamboo hatted Kim

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>>554050709

Must've been the wind.

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So what's /lcg/ general consensus of Greenman Sinclair?

I think Outis is getting middle father
I want to believe Rodya will get future eldest sister of the middle id..

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>his master is a 10 years old kid
lmao

>>554050390
CLAP CLAP

New manager here (welcome me)
do I save all lunacy for walpurgussy or arknots collab?

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>deleted

>>554050441
Don't think you can wipe your mistakes away, Stupid Stinky Retard Faust.

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whatever happened to the hopesissies who were there when people were trashing on part 2?
ready to admit this canto sucked?

>>554050441
She RAN

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In terms of actual gameplay, I thought the first Ring fight alongside Hohenheim and Alyssa was insanely well done
Hohenheim really was showing why HE was the head researcher and not >Paus

>HOW TO KILL A GEOLOGIST meme actually panned out
The insane bit was that it was executed in a manner that I did not find it unbelievable, and thought it was badass
Easily 3rd best scene this canto
First being KAISER Gregor
Second being Ryoshu. All of it

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So what's the verdict? Is Moses completely right? Would any other high ranking middle member have done this? Or is Matthias the exception because he already got givent he boot for what he did to his other brothers?

>>554050664
very likely a protocol to save face, keep in mind the fingers have had several wars against eachother and are largely considered hostile towards either
denouncing the ones responsible for a project that involves collaboration with the other fingers was probably the best bet to ensure it doesn't get messy

Why was Kira abducted for questioning? She's a neet. What could she possibly know?

>>554050906
Undeserved

>>554050906
I like him with lodger hair.

>>554050938
it does suck that he probably had to spend a lot of time convincing araya that she didn't have to go to school today or otherwise deal with her time delusions

>>554050906
I thought the character was cool but I'm not happy that's what the sign does

>>554050681
A training arc he clearly should've joined in on since it ended up in Sinclair becoming Mega Hitler in the future, instead of Witnessing as he always does
Perhaps he'll get over 20 lines next canto hongkek

So since Rodion for Mathias and Gregor for Valencia?

>>554050906
Still a faggot

my girlfriend is buying a Sinclair body pillow now. should I be concerned

>>554050923
its still possible but itd have to be like muuuuch farther down the line of IDs i just realized after the coming solo banner it should be a double banner right? could be ▮▮▮ Clair and Albina Faust followed by Rien Sang

>Rien unbreakable stagger ONE Sinner
>Run bricked
Hnmmmmm

>>554050906
Should have replaced pussyboy Sinclair permanently.

>>554051013
cock milking

>>554050906
His mark being basically a portable Mirror is very lame. At least he tells us that it is something that only Sinclair's mark does.

>>554051013
They're going to torture to get "information" on how the spiders breached HQ.

>>554050906
I hope he banged Demian's mom like he always wanted

>>554050991
The Middle is bad
But Matthias is worse

>>554050906
>Cool
>Handsome
>Thematically consistent
>Night drifter finisher
>Paints a horrifying picture of what the second smoke war will be and subtly implies that it will be a near apocalyptic event just off a few flavor lines
Greenclair is cool as fuck and I hope that's the future we're driving towards

>>554051013
She knows about the One Piece chapter leaks

>>554050709
I hate that we have a glimpse of a better game from the distortion detective trio. Really liked how they interacted. It would've been my favourite fight in the canto if it didn't have a pointless repeat.

>>554050959
DoomGODS always win

>>554050991
They probably get people who genuinely care about protecting those under them, but the main goal of the middle is to boost yourself by showing off how many revenges you did, so ultimately, you're doing it to appear tough to your fellow siblings.

Ricardo seems to care based on his announcer, and the guy Roland was trying to torture for information just told everyone to not fall for his words, since he just wanted an excuse to kill someone, and just be done with it.

I missed a lot of the passive lore. Is there anywhere you can read all of it? The stuff from Rien's weapon-passives is missing in the preview and I don't want to replay every stage for every phase to read it all.

>>554050991
Ricardo has sent dozens of shitter middle grunts at you to die before actually showing up. I don't think he even starts with vengeance stacks despite those grunts dying.

>>554050906
Look gay desu, but again, he does look like someone who is into Demian

>>554050991
I assume the other Middle agents wouldn't take the chance to include one of their siblings in their attack, risking the life of said sibling for no reason. Hence why Matthias got the boot when his big siblings started to smell something fishy about him suddenly having the sword and the previous siblings with said sword not being around anymore.

>>554050906
I cant lie it was pretty cool especially him raping Alissa
Im very curious to see how the mark works I liked the suggestion a anon made a bit ago comparing it to ben 10's omnitrix where sinclair can summon a future self that can counter whatever they are fighting but it sounds giga op so theres prolly some kinda downside/limitation

>>554051045
>Hong gets less lines
REEEE USELESS MALE SINNER SHOULD BE REPLACED WITH SEXO WAIFU
>Hong gets more lines
REEEEE USELESS MALE SINNER IS STEALING FROM RYOSHU HE SHOULD BE REPLACED WITH SEXO WAIFU

>>554051013
the objective was to bring all of the apprentices in alive as far as I remember, she's just the only one that could be saved. Sinclair could've NOT killed Albina but whatever.

>>554050938
It was not like the 10 year old achieved a successful amount of skills, shin and mang.

>>554051094
pics?

>>554051013
Sex, pure sex

Winclair is the chad nugget that emerged from a gauntlet of having his pelvis crushed by many older limbabes

>>554050874
I still hold the opinion that the operation should have started in part 2 so we can clear all the other nursefathers out of the way, then part 3 can be mostly ryoshu
Kim is mentally stable enough to join LCD but not enough to take part in the raid, maybe he's still weak
>>554050878
She takes hits like a champ

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which finger stocks had the lowest fall?
which ones rose, if any?

>>554051267
... Anon, Alyssa is LCE Mothe gear lady
Albina is the prosthetic Ring apprentice

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>>554050991
None of the fingers are good but the nursefathers are the worst of them.

>>554051184
>Usopp was actually the real Sun God
Oda will hear about this

>>554051229
Doomkeks lost though, just like in the FGO war threads they lost here too, I saw a few hopeless pissant doomkeks get ripped apart by abnormalities, I saw an index member get given a prescript to rape a doomkek to death, shit was rough man, everytime doomkeks try to square up they get put in their place.

>>554051271
true, though, he should've been a big titted bimbo from the start

>>554051398
I refuse to believe that

>>554050390
So are we going to have a coin for every sin color?

>>554051316
Limbus Company has better things to do then abduct random homeless girls and rape them

>Rien was actually Yoshihide
so was Ryoshu the daughter or the Hell Screen?

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>>554050906
I'm not sure how to feel about it. Pulling a branch of our future to use as a pseudo-ID feels a little too similar to what Dante does for my tastes. It's fine, but I wish his mark effect was a little more unique. We'll see what the other markbearers can do.

Matthias will be REDEEMED when it's revealed that he pretended to sacrifice Kira because he realized they lost the fight and knew that making them pity her was her best chance.

>>554051013
they wanted info on the inner workings of the spider house and who's attached to it
unfortunately they got the literal worst apprentice for that, even albina probably paid more attention and she's literally missing part of her brain

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>>554051249
Click the stage, and click on the enemy, then select skills and passives to read them.

>>554051425
He actually should've just been replaced with a character the director felt like writing instead of some actual cardboard cutout
>>554051271
If I was going to complain about ryoshu getting her canto stolen I'd complain about the other elephants in the room but at least those were entertaining

>>554051517
Funniest shit I've ever seen

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>>554050946
Always save rolling for Walpurgis

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>>554051013
>Kira survived
>>Ravi died
I am unreasonably angry about this ngl

>>554050906
Should replace LCB Sinclair so I can delete my account and stop playing this shitge already

>>554051267
>sinclair can summon a future self that can counter whatever they are fighting
Yeah it sound giga op because it's not true. It's more likely that Sinclair don't have a choice here, he become whoever he will be in the future, it's fixed

>they already updated Ryoshu's bio to say she's based on The Spider's Thread and not Hell Screen
heh

>>554051368
Pinky stocks entered the hyper speculative dimension and never returned. Their finger had both no development but also plenty of information to get a gist of their members.

>>554051543
>Pulling a branch of our future to use as a pseudo-ID feels a little too similar to what Dante does for my tastes
Well, who do you think Dante is?
Remember, according to FutureClair all the Sign powers are supposedly unique.

>Saude going on leave of absence
There's no way that shit was just for losing her arm, she basically died in canto 3 so being put near death isn't an issue, I wonder if she figured out that the raid was basically allowed by Dias?

>>554050403
...Yet the Matthias ID is not going to Heathcliff despite being a perfect fit in everything except personality.

>>554050906
>maestro has us by the roaps
>ENTER SELF INSERT
>nothin personnel albina
>the real art...were the friends we made along the way, maestro
Funniest thing I've seen in a long while. Maybe the funniest scene in the game.

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>>554050991
Middle would not attract members without there being at least a half-truth in what they peddle. Little Brothers/Sisters probably fully buy in on the family shit and the abusive toxic positivity and grandstanding takes hold through the promotions or time.

I hope next intervallo is about Gregor and Rodya being boyfriend and girlfriend

>>554051368
Middlecucks are coping with "M-Matthias already got kicked out anyway! It doesn't count!" but for the rest of us, it's definite proof that the middle has always been nothing more than a bunch of chimps

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>>554050906
While I think he's cool the fact that his Mark power is literally Deus ex Machina is kind of disappointing and I'm sure it will be hard to write narratively speaking because people either ask, 'why he's not helping when x' or 'he appeared and dogwalked everything it's getting stale'

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>>554051374
Uhhh I know what I said
[/spoiler]Look man they both start with A its a reasonable mistake okay?????[/spoiler]

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>>554050991
Right to a degree, but there's always going to be exceptions and people who genuinely believe in the family like the GOAT Ricardo. That said, Matthias's case was bad enough to cast him out, so it's clear they won't tolerate outright disrespect towards the concept of family.

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>>554051573
Read my post. They don't let you check other phases of the fight which reveal new passives and lore, and it's completely missing from Rien's weapon passive statuses.

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>>554051657
If Dante's power is similar to Sinclair's I will kneel for all eternity but I doubt they'll do it, as fun as Dante = Sinclair would be to see everyone's reactions to

>>554051013
Index (Thoth) wanted to see kira fangirl over kim who is literally him from her manga so Dias sent the order

>>554050664
>still apart of the Middle?
pretty sure he isn't, and the Middle wants him dead - just like how Valencina was completely disowned by the Thumb for fucking up only 3 days after her promotion to sottocapo

>>554051368
>which finger stocks had the lowest fall?
Index (being a member)
>which ones rose, if any?
Index (capabilities of its god) by a lot
And the Ring got to show off some cool stuff.

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Thinking about it isn't Matthias pretty powerful? Valencina was like 77, she could keep up with Vergilius because of the Eye of Odin, so the Relic doesn't impact on her level.
Matthias is 85, really close to Vespa's and has a relic too.

>>554051543
>>554051657
wait
>all sign powers are unique
>mephistopheles allows dante to summon possible future/present versions of sinners
>faust built mephi
Did faust TRAP and BETRAY sinclair in mephistopheles' heart?

What was the deal with the Udjat weapons all malfunctioning? Sabotage I guess?

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Repostan

>>554050906
He's yellow. Is director colorblind? Am I colorblind? WHY IS NOBODY POINTING OUT HE'S NOT GREEN?

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>>554051576
>He actually should've just been replaced with a character the director felt like writing instead of some actual cardboard cutout
Many such cases

>>554051543
Sinclair power is clearly limited to only this base timeline tho

>>554051776
What a stupid fucking hat

>>554051590
Wish they could just let the one off dudes live for once like Hugo and whatnot

>>554050946
>do I save all lunacy for [...] arknots collab?
yeah about that

>>554051789
Then why's he know about Ricardo's hair coupons from his book? Why has Kira supposedly visited the Middle while still being ousted?

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>>554051013
Aeng-Du thought it would be cute to bring a neet onto the team.

>>554051850
Stupid Faust...

Isn't Vespa a jobber, actually?
>Would lose to Matthias 1v1 even with his own Relic.

>>554051714
They had the perfect chance in Canto 9 to have an emotional Rodigor scene and they squandered it. Which means it ain't happening.

>>554051368
Middle stock on the ground
Pinky schizophrenic as always
The others same as ever

>>554051657
Dante has a pretty high chance of having the sign, yea? He's a star and demian keeps coming over to tell him about chips
Did Dante ever say he saw the sign before?

>>554051776
He's just misunderstood...

>>554050664
>Matthias killed his peers for the sword
>Valencina fucked up so bad only 3 days after becoming Sottocappo that they didn't even bother taking back her shit because it was tainted in their eyes
>Callisto's art is considered trite and outdated-who gives a fuck about goreshit when that's daily life in the city. This one's hard to put together just from the story but paying attention to little details reveals it, from how ENTERclair reacts to his art ("this shit is tacky, nothing but a kitsch replica of the reality of many in the City" basically) to his panic being "Outmoded Art", etc.)
>Yoru is bound here by Ryoshu's birth somehow. VERY likely like that the Fingers' higher-ups came to some sort of unanimous decision to make the Spider's House and she was basically offered up to be the "designated birthgiver" of the weapon they wanted to forge due to her fucked up timeblood that they failed to replicate via cloning (hence why Araya couldn't withstand the safe).
>Rien is kinda just following prescripts, if you look at his status in the fight his "Proxy" isn't crossed out like the other Nursefather's monikers so while he's not here of his own will he's also not a pariah like the others

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>>554051850
You should know the answer to that, Stupid Faust

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>>554050825
Oh fuck I played it on mobile and the game was overheating the shit for me to slow down and read shit-
That's... actually pretty bad, eh. No wonder he got sent to the Spider House

>>554051924
>thinking Dogrector won't fuck up his own game for a collab again
Normies liked it so the collabs will continue.

>>554051789
Did they say what her fuck-up was?

>>554051891
yeah it's not the same, but it's similar

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Maybe Queequeg should've just killed some Middle members and get kicked out instead of whatever self lobotomy she did. Skill issue honestly

>>554051830
>Proceeds to nullify damage for 3 turns
>lmao fuck shin
The only confusing part is that his cheapshot against Vespa didn't even faze him, what the fuck did they feed him

>>554051830
He's nerfing himself. He has no affinity nor skill with the Relic, but he swings it anyways. It's in his Ridiculous Grit passive, I think.

>>554051632
I would assume the sinclair summoned will be very powerful regardless, though it would be funny Summoning some homeless bum sinclair weaker then then the one we have currently. I kinda like the idea of it being basically a gamble what you get its funny

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>>554051741
Ricardo will manifest ego to save his little brothers and sisters then job in the finger bow bell intervallo

I'm unironically happy Kira survived
What am I?

>>554051763
I guess the only way is to do the stage, or wait for the wiki.gg guys to add it.

>>554052050
Her time on the boat & meeting her platonic lover was better

>>554051368
>rose
Index
>stayed the same
thumb
pinky
>fell
middle
>rock fucking bottom
ring

>>554050906
LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>554052085
I flatout call bullshit on that. First time I did the fight, Vespa fucking bled out from losing enough clashes and I got a
>FATE LOST
defeat screen

>>554051368
Less movement than you'd expect, since all these guys were rejects, but Middle was probably hit the hardest, considering the heights they had to fall from. Index meme stocks rose big time, but Index serious stocks fell. Uncle Heng also dragged Thumb stocks up a little bit in spite of Valencina's efforts.

>>554051979
He has seen our future not-Sinclair's sign. It is not very clear if this is to let us the readers acknowledge its power or it is in fact Dante being capable of seeing them.

faust is gonna get the matthias id isnt she

Can the concept incinerator kill abnormalities? Does the the concept they represent also get erased?

>>554050906
I'm not gay. HOWEVER

>>554052050
anon, the whole reason matthias was 'kicked out' is because:
1. they had no actual proof he killed them
2. he was too strong to 'punish' in any other way, especially with a Relic

>>554051769
>Sinclair has the 10 number crossed out (Dante's sinner number)
>Sinclair's first EGO was a giant red flaming clock
>Dante's contract keeps everyone at Sinclair's power level
>Both are the only non-blueschizos to speak with Demian
There's a weird amount of connections/parallels for there not to be anything
Probably not that one is the other but who knows

>>554051880
It looks yellow because he's been wearing it for fuck knows how long while air dropping into trenches. Colours become ugly when worn and dirty

>>554052050
Mathias erased all proof, but he got demoted because they knew something was fishy, but without proof that's the best they could do.
If Queequeg purpose murdered siblings and they had proof of it, they'd just kill her.

>>554052006
So there's nothing explicit on Valencina or Callisto. But why would they kick Callisto for that if he was a Maestro? Isn't the Ring just an artistic circlejerk anyways? He'd be the one deciding the flow and standards of discussion anyways.

>>554051945
>>554052014
So was it? Or did I miss something? Haven't slept for a long long time

>>554050991
The Middle is perfectly fine with send little brothers and sisters to die to help a big brother with their book of vengeance but I think they draw the line at literally cutting through your own members just to get a hit on whoever you're fighitng that and literally killing another member since that's what got Matthias sent to the spider house.

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>Ricardo is a great guy, he cares about his family a lot!
>got like +50 killed(so far) over a hair coupon

Outis x Dante small moment was cute
How is the ship stocks doin?

>>554052246
Ehh doubt it if you erase the twinky nosferatu I dont think itd erase the concept of bloodfiends for everyone since thats what hes based on

>>554052323
Callisto refused to innovate and kept doing the same shit over and over.

Gregor had to nearly become a bio weapon so Gregor x Rodion shipper can have a small piece of content

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>>554051741
I mean, Kira was never a middle, but when they saw how Mattias was feeding her, they were mad, I think this says a lot about the True Middle

>>554052276
>Dante's contract keeps everyone at Sinclair's power level
but that's not true, it keeps them at the power level of the weakest sinner
which is currently yi sang

>>554051850
Did you miss the part where Limbus Company literally invited Rien in?

>>554052220
Fraud Jihoon rushed the Canto and needed to shoehorn Vespa glaze instead of having Sancho step up

>>554052232
Yeah, the sign is only visible to others who also have the sign, it's not clear that Dante has it because we can see the sign because he can, or is it just a storytelling thing because it would be kinda silly if they were talking about something we couldn't literally see happening

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Opps seems like I posted on the wrong thread, I shall ask again.

Any tips on soloing farm watch? The seed sometimes control me and game over, sometimes it just stagger me, is that buggy or it's just how it works? I do have music box, T corp badge, moth egg , but I suppose they don't work against control.

I might just use daily power up to kill him tomorrow, it seems possible for how close I am

>>554052343
The middle is still kind of shit for stuff like that but atleast Ricardo wasn't literally cutting through them like Matthias or throwing them around, I think Ricardo does actually care going off the lines in sweeping intervallo and his announcer lines, I guess we'll know for sure whenever he shows up again.

>>554052492
I think I did. What stage was that?

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>>554051979
ye

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>valencina had the strongest reaction to her apprentice dying
interesting
do you figure it was just possessiveness or did she actually care to some small degree?

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>>554052026
This is all that's explicitly said about it, though while she was getting shitfaced Vergilius did say something along the lines of "you tend to drown yourself in what destroyed you" so speculation is she got drunk and did something stupid that shamed the Thumb

>>554052085
Did people forget the tattoo was a Wing Singularity? It ain’t cheap shit

>>554052343
This is this and that is that.

do you think Goku could beat up the Nursefathers?

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>they still think the GOAT tried to backstab his princess for minor fight bonus
He knew he was going to die, no reason to take Kira down with him, by "betraying" her he made sure she would see another day.

>>554052343
Yes retard, you basically agree to go ride or die with your bros. Gonna pussy out because "you might die"?
>>554052603
Could be either way. Could easily be her seething more that she's lost another thing again in her conga line of failures.

>>554052323
Remember that there's different schools, and the two prominent ones right now are Pointilism and another I forgot but it ain't Corporism, which is his school. If you fail to innovate in the art world you get left behind, which is what happened to him via being kicked. It's why he was so receptive to Hohenheim giving GENUINE criticism on his art-even if it wasn't positive at least he was engaging with it whereas no one else in the Ring besides his protege would even glance at it

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>>554052323
Callisto knew how to make one thing and that thing was gore art
He didn't even innovate

>>554052603
It's both, but mostly possessiveness. Even when he was dying, Lucio was talking about "the next Textbook will be better" but Valencina doesn't seem interested in replacing him

>>554052220
Maybe you shouldn't have eaten all the ampules for yourself, greedy fuck

>>554052439
No fucking way that is true, I remember that the way Dante work is that it combined the Sinner strength and divide by average

>Be Index member
>Suffer horribly and die
Is it worth having faith?

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>>554052343
Part of being in the Middle is enacting revenge on people that "wrong" the Middle. They get promoted and presumably paid when they do that which isn't too different from most violence adjacent jobs in the city.

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>>554052603
>do you figure it was just possessiveness or did she actually care to some small degree?
I like to imagine it was both.

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>>554052584

>>554052530
The sinner needs to have a 7 attack weight EGO
If you don't, then no.

>>554051741
I would say its like 50/50, there are people who are legit (See Ricardo) and others who are hollow like the Middle Nursefather. But again he was such a blatant fake that they shoved him into the spiders web so clearly that kind of blatant behaviour turns you into a pariah.

>>554052684
Krillin mid diffs al the nursefathers

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>>554052609
She piss herself

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>>554052689
based Middle glazergod, I kneel

>>554052323
Trashy artist who overly relies on a singular artistic movement, mediocre execution and implementation of techniques. Entirety of his gallery feels over insistent and, to be honestly, quite trashy.

>>554052603
Picturing her life from what we know, she did care. Abusive people do the abuse because they care and think is necessary.

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>>554052018
Just got to the third seal. Yeah, Three Middle Brothers found the Relic together. The oldest one claimed ownership and Matthias killed them both to have it as his own, hiding any evidence and seemingly successful at that, but the Middle noticed anyway and sent him to the Spider House, which he considers ''Hell''.
The final seal reveals it was the Laevateinn, another nordic weapon, Surtr's sword. Matthias has some affinity to it but not nearly enough to wield it properly. But he doesn't care since the dream of wielding it is his.
>>554052091
Yeah I just got ot that part. Well, I don't think it's a self-nerf since he is hitting pretty close to Vespa, who has Gungnir with proper affinity. If it was that bad, he wouldn't cut it close
>>554052085
wtf

Odds of Ryoshu's ID having Mang?

Did you check your prescript today, anon?

>>554050906
I liked how happy he was to see some of his limfamily

>>554052903
Hot

>>554052689
I like Kira but tattoos are unattractive and a deal breaker for me

>>554052754
I THOUGHT THE FIGHT WAS OVER OKAY, AND DECIDED TO JUST ATTACK AND WASTE AMPULES FOR FUN
HOW COULD I HAVE KNOWN VESPA WOULD FUMBLE THAT BAD

>>554052689
Strongest middle coper

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>>554052716
>Gonna pussy out because "you might die"?
Is Ricardo?
I don't see him trying his luck with the Indigo Elder

>>554052859
And if you need more hints, read Udjat Outis' uptie story.

>>554052689
>Gives Kira reason to abandon him by making it appear like he "betrayed"
Matthias....what a man you are...

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>this was real

What was your favourite example of good writing in this canto?

>>554053016
don't worry her tatoos are only "middle-styled" and thus probably dorky temporary tattoos
at least that's how i'm choosing to imagine it

>>554052343
Those guys wanted to fight for him though.
He didn't order them around, he said "I'm going to get those fuckers" and the little bros went "We'll go too bro!!"

i hope rodion gets the matthias id
>doesnt have mang or shin
>isnt able to wield the special sword at all
its perfect for someone that isnt special

>>554052586
Ah, nice, that confirms it, thanks anon, I had an inkling that was the case
>>554052796
In the checkup intervallo, it's mentioned that everyone's power level got changed to Sinclair's level, that's a strange evening out value

I'm doing my weekly md and every third loading screen is the fucking fpoon CG and it gets funnier every time I see it.

>>554052689
I have misjudged you, MANthias

>>554052859
Thanks for going out of your way bwo.
>>554053074
I will! Stuff like this is easy to miss, I thought it had accidently skipped a story-node or something

>>554052530
Sorry anon but unless your sinner has Dodge then you simply never pick a floor that has him.
Same thing for the Surrendered witnessing floor, which is even worse because not even dodge can save you because Grandma's insta fail is a [on use].

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>>554052810
The fact that he cannot master them, it puts in perspective the genius of Roland

>>554053106
>dorky temp tats
Cute stocks mooning

>>554053135
It would be ironic too, since she killed someone from the middle too.

>>554053135
In a way it would be really funny if the Sinner that gets the ID could use the sword, but I think Relics are beyond us until Outis' Canto

Where’s my Roach Kaiser filling Rodya with bug babies art? That’s all I ask for.

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>>554053097
rien went from forgettable to very memorable for me with how tragic he is
i think kjh did the lol& clapbait in a fun and interesting way

>>554052969
Interesting...
I should really get to playing part 3 on PC once more, when I return home

>>554052335
Dias got into contact with Spider's House (mostly likely via Rien) and basically gave an open invite to fuck LCE in the ass to draw Ryoshu back. Dias' cronies at HQ basically made sure that things went as smoothly as possible for the Nursefathers (up until Ryoshu's awakening, which I assume was the end goal given we didn't get any Golden Bough out of this) by fucking up the LCA equipment.

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>>554053085
I really fucking hope we get Kim appearing probably in the next intervallo, there's no way we're parting ways with LCD and the rest of the comapny so soon and both Kim and Gregor must be swimming through the same shit so this is the perfect chance for us to help both.

>>554053202
He took a while to get used to them, but he did eventually. The hardest one for him to get the hang off was the scythe.

>>554051368
Index
It made some dude larp as some loser and finished it be getting him to suicide with a fucking spork

>>554053230
>x ID is beyond us until y
This ship sailed during Don's canto they don't give a fuck

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>>554052810
now that the dust has settled... was it just clapbait?

>>554053372
fpoon

>>554053202
Roland would probably trounce Rien in every way, especially now considering he should have stabilized his EGO after getting undistorted

Is this going to pay off for Dias in the end? Faust found out, Verg will probably put two and two together? What if everyone starts losing faith in her?

>>554053381
I didn't say ID tho, I said Relics.

why do i need aptitude for a freaking sword

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We have to get at least some sort of recognition from the LC higher ups for this. It's going to be really weird if they try and go back to the silent ineffable superior types after the spider's house walked all over them and nearly stole the main thing they were after. The main LC forces were even useless in getting them back. Sabotage or no, I can't go back to just having them treat us like disposable pawns when it's pretty clear we're the only ones doing anything around here

>>554053202
It does make me wonder what Riens fighting style was like before Hermes forced him to be an OC

>>554051517
>Well, you know what they say
>That's that, and this is this, haha.....

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It's surreal how hard they fumbled the "Ryoshu unseathes her katana and cuts down the final boss" scene that everyone predicted since the very start.

Should have been an easy scene to make cool.

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>>554053097
When Araya the MONKEY jumps into the fire to save Ryoshu.

>>554053387
Completely

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Looking at how cool the sinners now really makes me wish for them to give us upgraded base sinner IDs. I thought that was the plan until the ut update where you need to manually UT4 base ID yourself

>>554053381
anon he meant laevatein 100% which is basically color territory even if vespa wouldve jobbed had he just 1v1d Mathias
>>554053497
your sword of kings caliburn?

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>>554053285
I personally think the prescripts wanted him to imitate Roland in order to stack up even more shit under his name during the rampage, to speed up his demotion, so he'd go to the library, and then that leads into Yan distorting.
Hermes probably wasn't very fond of Rien after he interrupted Callisto slow torture of his family.

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>Guy genius that invented the tech the sinners use to fight
>PRINCESS of the STRONGEREST BLOODFIEND TO EVER EXIST
>Living, walking Concept Incinerator
>LA MARCA DE CAIN (FORMA TRUNKS DEL FUTURO)
>GIGANIGGER BUG EMPEROR
>Rodion Raskolnikov (normal woman)

>>554053497
It's a picky sword. Think Excalibur.

>>554053097
The whole characterization of Valencina, how she treat lucio like garbage but tears up when he is killed, heck I would argue she provoking Gregor is intentionally suicides, she know she can't make it out alive at that point.

Hype moment and arua though, I like Kaiser intro speech on how roaches appears on the bed

>>554053290
Valencina and Lucio in particular hide Lucio's actual feelings about Valencina behind his passives and skills.
Valencina's history is on hers and her downfall from the Thumb, while Lucio's expose that he isn't as loyal as it seems

>>554052969
>hiding any evidence and seemingly successful at that, but the Middle noticed anyway
It'd be pretty hard to not notice two of your highest ranking members disappearing suddenly, and the weapon one of them owning now being in the hands of someone else. I know he didn't think things through any further than that, but sheesh.

>>554053469
theres no chance they give us a matthias or valencia id without their relics
itll just be a bit weaker because rodion is less capable or some shit

Rien reminds me that one of my disappointments from Ruina was how few opportunities you have to use the Black Silence keypage once you get it. And most of them weren't "real fights"

>>554053387
Yes, but in an extremely self aware way

>>554053497
because its super magitek and its not unreasonable to think that they have some degree of intelligence

>>554053550
I just want proper Sancho ID where she uses Bari's skills and shit.

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>>554053507

>>554053602
>not even special by being normal because ishmael and heath are there

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Why is Ezra like this?

>>554053387
yes but it could have been done much worse
even he got sick of it by the end so it's kino

Alright so I think we've all agreed that our first Intervallo is going to be the Gregor Recovery Arc(with bonus appearances from Kim and maybe Kira)
But what do we think the second one is, that's meant to set up for Meursault's canto?

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>>554053602
All that yet she has the BEST ID (KoD)
How does she do it?

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>>554050906
I HATE IT WHERE'S MY CUTE BOYCLAIR WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>554052603
I think she cared. Specially the way she is clearly in denial at start, i think that if she did not care she would have commented on how he was just a failure.

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Matthias didn't even have Shin

>>554053602
to be fair ishmael is also pretty much entirely regular (same with heath) and basically any sinner you didnt list there besides like outis and faust

>>554053185
If the counter isn't damaging grandma is doable, you can stall untill you get seven attack, and when 2nd phase start you go all in on her defense, probably need to use clock to slow her down though, with enough fire power you will skip that attack

>>554053469
Same thing
>>554053551
>basically color tier
Yeah we already got that in Don's canto

>>554053627
>The whole characterization of Valencina, how she treat lucio like garbage but tears up when he is killed
I think its a good example of a abusive relationship, yes she cared for him but could only show it through pain and 'tough love'.
In a weird way you could argue she would have been happy to die at his hands. Little Textbook finally getting a promotion.

>>554053669
Anon, I clearly meant Relics at 100% power. Which is why I said
>Sinner that gets the ID could use the sword
I guess I should've specified that I meant the Sinner who gets the AI actually has the aptitude to use the sword at full power.

Super swords were a thing since ruína
We know index proxies and messenger each get their on upon assuming the position
Also, Durandal is probably also a relic

>>554053782
She wants the Waspsting.

do you guys think there will be more of these "sinner awakenings" in intervallo and the next canto?

>>554053782
She's a mix of heathcliff, rodya and don. She's super fixated on workshop shit, 100% intuition 0% intelligence and puts on a happy go lucky attitude to hide deep insecurity depression and self hatred

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>>554053602
>Herman "Ishmael" Melville (also a normal woman)
Poor Rodya cant even have "only normie on the bus"

>>554053387
It's clapbait but I'm honestly fine with it as long as it's a one time thing and we don't start seeing other Index members larping as Gebura or something

>>554053842
>strongest nursefather doesn't need any gay shit to almost solo a color
shin copers in shambles

>>554053794
could we greed three? lcb check up v2, finger bow bell intervallo, and meur set up intervallo

>>554053097
I liked Matthias's design and characterization. His interactions with Yoshihide in the flashbacks, the DD crew / sinners, and the bits of lore hidden throughout the skill names / passives

valencia gregor
lucio heathcliff

callisto hong lu
albina faust

ren sinclair

>>554053743
FUUUAAARRRKKK VERSTAPPEN QUIXOTE REAL??!?!?!?
>>554053909
>Also, Durandal is probably also a relic
You'd think that'd be mentioned or implied

>>554052810
Is there one with Argalia and Rien using a scythe?

>>554053884
>ID randomly changed to AI
Wuh??

>>554053941
At least Ishy was a wagie for the Wings
Rodya was what, a rat? A pseudo activist-revolutionary?
Hell, Heathcliff has her beat in actual backstreets rep too

>>554053965
nobody cares about Gebura so we're safe

>>554053758
>>554053846
Heathcliff is a latent necromancer

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You stupid hag, you threw away your precious second chance that you didn't even deserve.

>>554053965
It would be hilarious to see other Roland index LARPers tho
Did Angelica fuse with the index or something?

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They make Lucio dating sim

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This might be more tragic than Lucio's. Albina cared less for her life than her work, Lucio knew he was expendable and planned to kill Valencina but it's repeatedly implied Kira tries her best not to be discarded

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>finger bow bell intervallo
Yeah, just like how we got the Q Corp follow up intervallo from Canto 8, right?

>>554053782
>no liver shot

>>554050906
I like the idea of his mark being able to 'project' different moments of his life unto him, with 'The sign: [future]' basically implying that he can also go 'The sign[past]' and that the present should also do something akin to that. It's kinda like IDs and mirror worlds, which is a bit boring, but I guess that the way they differentiate is alright enough.
Also ENTER and hype and aura and all that. Him destroying the clanker's pride and joy before killing her right in front of his mentor, telling his mentor his work is shit, and then killing him too was pretty cool

>>554054017
ironically with hong lus backstory he'd probably be a far better maestro than callisto

>>554054094
fair point but theres still ishmael who is just like a literal clerk

>>554054094
was WHCliff Necromancy sword his ego?

>>554053965
>Index members larping as Gebura or something
You just know that's going to happen, also someone larping as Ayin, Angela and even Carmen

>>554054129
>Throw Beer at him
>Spit at his shoes
Choose

>>554054142
>and planned to kill Valencina
When is this mentioned?

keep in mind that valencina was fighting verg while fucking sloshed off her gourd, too
she's not actually a total fraud it seems

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>>554053510
A blade, Index uses blades, That's why i was mad before the canto, I said "He's too Black Silence, where is the blade?"

>>554053202
>>554053510
>>554053458
>>554053342
One thing that comes to mind, is that the gloves and the weapons weren't even his. They are from Angelica. Roland used only Durandal for most of his fixer career.

He only picked the gloves after the Pianist, and then developed that fighting style while going on his rampage on the backstreets. Dude is a natural prodigy.

>>554054113
No no it is genuinely funny that she could have avoided everything if she said literally anything else other than “Goes for the heart”

>>554053097
The family dynamic between yoru, yoshihide and araya.
Yoru resents yoshihide for having her stuck in the spider's house. But under all the resentment is genuine love for her daughter(promise me you'll never be like me) which will remain forever buried, as she copes by saying that she pities ryoshu(maybe it was rien that said that, but it doesn't matter too much). Despite it all, yoshihide fails to escape the cycle of abuse and inadvertently ends up abusing araya just the same. Araya on the other hand is able to break it at the very end and fulfills her promise to ryoshu and be her mother, loving her at the end enabling her to break free. It all connects when ryoshu realizes that the feeling wasn't pity, but love.

It's all a bunch of loosely connected moments that come full circle on the themes of parenthood and abuse.

>>554054178
Its an ability that multiple heathcliffs develop through the mirror worlds (wh and erlking for example) so it could be EGO or legit just magic
Its left up to interpretation but implied to be a thing Heathcliffs can just do

>>554053965
>Index Faust uptie story
>Guy was given a prescript to make fake prescripts
>Yan made fake prescripts
Hermes is trying to make an army of cosplayers.

im tired of hearing about the finger bow bell
OHH THE FINGER BOW BELL IS COMING UP OHHHH
over and over in numerous ids

>>554054148
wasnt this xichun training?

>>554054129
Boys and girls who fell for Sora and Lucio are setting themselves up for NTR scenario.

>>554054178
No, it would've been listed as an EGO, unless KJH retcons and somehow each Mirror World character has different EGOs.

>>554053387
It implies the will of city really want Roland to die violently, even if he supposingly "escaped" it. It will make sure that "masked man on rampage" get his bad ending

>>554053941
Ishmael survived the U corp sea for years, it takes a special kind of person to do that. Meanwhile Rodion spent her years doing NOTHING before she joined Limbus.

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>>554053965
I'm oppositte, if it's just literally Roland for no real reason I will be pissed.

If the Index has an entire squad of larpers who are DEAD inside from their entire lives being a hollow mockery of an actual cool fixer who was too based to be controlled by the prescripts then it will be cool.

>>554054236
Phase 2 Passive lore text

>>554054236
Passive flavor text, it mentions that he almost killed her in her sleep but resolved to instead do it after the raid (which he unfortunately didn't live to see through)

We're not getting Nursefather IDs. Dream on. We'll get IDs for all the apprentices though.

>>554054178
No, it's stated to be something he's attuned with, managing ghosts and their grudges
I think Dullahan is closer to his ego
Sword is just mirrors bound together because it's cool

>>554054148
I thought we'd get a Q Corp followup in this Canto, but it was like 90% Limbus Lab raid, which was kind of shit imho, also a billion manikins fights

>>554054313
It should happen, we just gave them something worth discussing in the upcoming Finger Bow Bell

I hope pilot suffers a very painful death

>>554054425
Grudging you once the first Nursefather ID cums out.

>>554051368
Ring stocks rose for me because I always thought the "hurr durr I kill people and use their corpses as spooky art" shit was very fucking boring and played-out, so them throwing Callisto out for having such shit taste elevated the rest of the Ring a little.

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Bitch >:(

>>554054425
I have to have hope because Hong Lu won't get any ids at this rate if we aren't getting the nursefathers

>>554054348
Well each mirror world character DOES have different EGO
Sinclair from the dawn office mw has philips EGO

the wild hunt/fragmented blade of ruined mirror worlds do function like an EGO in gameplay and I think that's intended since gameplay is canon (even down to giving us lore inside the damn skill names)
But its not confirmed to explicitly be EGO

>>554053097
Hohenheim in Part 1 was a timewasting exposition machine researcher archetype, but his conversations in Part 3, especially with Callisto, really made clear what he values.
In general, the foiling and thematic parallels of some sinners with the Nursefathers/apprentices' situations were well crafted. It does make it feel even more shit when Ishmale, Rodya and to a lesser extent Outis got nothing out of it, though.

>>554053097
Hohenheim subtly insulting Callisto's stupid hat

>>554054374
Cant wait to meet the one who is larping as the Vermillion Cross.

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>>554054342
i forgot the letters

>>554053387
Nah, I just saw it as the mocking hand of the city kicking a man

>>554054442
it should but theyre dragging it out
hopefully when it does come we get a good number of syndicate ids

>The Finger spend all this money and effort just to mimic Concept Incinerator
Ok

Smooching Araya so she has to make a different expression that resting bitch face

>>554054509
i haven't actually gotten the araya announcer yet, is it just Suit Araya or do we get lines from all of them?

>>554054554
Good point, Philclair did have a different one.

>>554054547
He might get Ren instead of Sinclair because muh Pinky.

>>554054148
>Yeah, just like how we got the Q Corp follow up intervallo from Canto 8, right?
I always thought that shit would be followed up WAY later, just like Hermann's legion of jobbers ensemble.