Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #8983 - Sleepover Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offshttps://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/==Comics Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 21 January 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Racing CrossWorlds - 04 March 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 04 March 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 01 April 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>/sthg/ OP template:https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>554141659
whispers chocolate boobies
Woobification of characters.
Hello kitty for gooners
idw is trash
Remove foids from existence, it's the only way to save this franchise.
>The whale only wanted to play with sonikkuHERRO KITTY FOR BOYS. JANAI
Douge
>>554193442prove it
>>554193241
Drago!
Why can we have a movie about a little planet chained to the earth?
>>554193591>ESP SilverSo 06 Silver who somehow survived erasure.
>>554193609Who the fuck is this?
THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONICI WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYINGI WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFOREI DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHITGENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
>Naka senpai sez edgy shounen but nottu rike SatAM>Ohshima senpai sez fastu doraemon>maybe i just shirr Shadow instead
Cream the Rabbit
>>554193804chest too small
>>554193609Show Sally properly you fuck!
>>554193476But I like sex.
Why does seeing tails get dicked down by futas make me diamonds?
>>554193442Hello Kitty already has gooners
>>554193872Good.
>>554193917Because you’re a fag
>>554193917Because you're a faggot pedo.
>>554193969We can out goon them.
>>554193969not nearly enough
Sonic inspires Surge!
>>554193748Probably
>>554193940Now I need Surge and Kit reciting “Who’s On First”
>Gallagher Archie>Fun, whimsy, cartoony.>Gallagher / Penders Archie>Same as before but more serious. features sci-fi and mysticism. mix of action, lore and world building (That was the sweet spot)>Early Penders / Bollers Archie>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More action focused>Late Penders / Bollers Archie>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More drama focused. most archie criticism comes from content made in this era. (slap happens here)>Flynn Archie>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More action focused>Flynn reboot archie>serious. tries to re tell game lore its own way. very action focused>Flynn IDW>Reboot archie without the Sonic SatAM stuff>Evan IDW>Steven universe fanfic>Imada Blade of Courge>Dark age game (Sonic and his co protagonist)>Imada Shadow>Shadow gens with more plot>90s shogakukan manga>hellokitty for boysBen Hurst Documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTuMgsR38ng
>>554193241someone post the other sleepover
>>554194097Leeta and Lyco?
>>554193917You like penis and boobs
>>554193783one of my favorite pieces, he's so sexy and cute in this. People should do more with his hydrokinesis
>>554194116@Grok summarize this
>>554192510>Mephiles WILL be redeemed>Infinite WILL be redeemed>Team FUTURE officialized>Shitvaze and Shitaze DEADWould be a dream come true, Eggface and midvok are inoffensive
>>554194247I hope he kills you OwO
>>554193881He posted Sally's full model before and her titties and pussi were out. Not kidding. She blew Shadow up with her watch thing and then made a joke about being nude
Remember: Despite all of the acclaim and critic cock sucking, the Meta era was killing Sonic. Sonic needs his shitty friends to live because the average person loves arcs and large casts, and we now have the proof that no matter how much critics and boomers cry about Sonic not needing story, they were wrong
>>554194437But he does it in low res. I need Sally's hi res 3d boobies!
>>554193363Whisper's biscotti butt
>>554194527Sonic always had a story, those people were just idiots that saw sonic as fast mario.
Comfort your local hedgehog with kisses and cuddles
NIGGERDOW
>>554194527>>554194653Sonic can survive with just gameplay like Mania probed. But Sega can't make good gameplay
>>554194527They only brought them back reluctantly and while cursing through their teeth the whole time. Sonic Forces>here's every character>btw we chose the worst characterizations of every single one of them>here's a story about how every character in the series is useless and Sonic has to save all of them because Sonic is perfect and nobody else could possibly live up to him except maybe Shadow on a good day (inhibitorless Shadow still catches the metal virus lol)
Remember when Evan Stanley was in SatBK?
>>554194649
>modernize sally>still make her a naked slutchaotic choices
>>554194616Im confused. Whats biscotti about it? Is she italian? Is her butt very firm and dry and tastes like almonds?
The first rule of Sonic Forces is never talk about Sonic Forces
>>554194982It's as biscotti as her boobies are chocolate, what's so hard to understand?
>>554194116Why did Pender do it?
RUMOR: Alleged plot details for Sonic Movie 4 have surfaced via Daniel Richtman:"Amy comes from another Earth where Robotnik and Metal Sonic rule the world. She travels to this reality – the past – to prevent it."
>>554194097chroniclesfag is a machine designed to remember everything about sonic
>>554195175Let me guess...He wanted to be in charge and make a star wars themed Sonic movie with lots of echidnas
What's the game shown at 0:21 of the 35th anniversary video?
>>554195264Amys a bitch ass motherfucker with a rancid cunt
>>554195264>RumorInto the trash
>>554195264>Silver with boobs*sigh* I'll take it...
>>554195469they're doing a riff on terminator. no one is thinking about silver at all.
Silver doesn’t deserve anything
>>554195590I would prefer actual Silver to have boobs honestly
Funny how Bollers and Penders both kept trying to get rid of Sonally and SOA wouldn't let them. They had no idea they were basically playing into Yuji Naka's desires.
>>554195674Same
>amy is an action hero>silver and blaze have nothing except romance dramakek
>>554194982Biscotti is the color of all the blonde parts of Whisper, which includes her hair and her fur pants.
>Sonic is furry capeshit and Knuckles is the main protag of the B plot. everything else is wrong.
>>554195814Silver and Blaze originally tried to steal the action roles from characters like Tails Knuckles and Amy, so this is sweet karma
>Sonic is a romance series about Shadow and Maria
>>554195751no one needs yuji naka to tell them sonally is a shit idea. soa deserved to get their nuts chopped off by the penders lawsuit and boom failing.
>>554195961In 06 both Tails and Knuckles are playable
Rape evil characters
>>554195264What a golden opportunity to reveal rouge and cream as the knuckles and tails equivalents. Although hopefully not all at once since it'll just feel like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
>>554196178
I want her to strip silver of value in every sense of the word rip off his cock and pick his body clean like a vulture while hes still breathing and to give him some false hope of recovering while his guts are spilling out and being feasted upon
>>554196171Barely, while Silver got a main role and a super form, like he was a saiyan dooming the Krillin/Tien types of characters to irrelevancy
>Amy is a time travelerCANONANON
>Sonurgefags write Surge>Just turn her into Amy, Blaze or Asuka Langley
Sonic is the story about a big strong man falling in love with a blue hedgehog
>>554196535>Amy fucked Shadow in the future and left him there to raise their son aloneWhat a shit mother
>>554196535Does Fowler know?
Between all the different iterations of the blue blur, who do you think is the worst written one of all? (comics, shows, games)
>>554196171Tails and Knuckles in 06 were a hackjob done out of obligation
THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO FUCK PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO FUCK YOU
>>554196709 (me)Oh yeah movies too.
>>554196535would it make more sense for silvamy
>>554196762Sally that has been illegal for ages...
>>554197125IT SHOULD BE LEGAL FOR ALL AGES
>>554196698The most kino route in shadow the hedgehog, bar none.
>>554196762You can tell this is an early 2000s comic because even though it's obviously western and a serious situation there is anime sweat sprinkle
>>554196709The moviesHe's written like a band kid who is trying way too hard to make everyone laugh and his voice does not sound cool at ALL.
>>554197304Archie was kino because it felt like a western comic but with slight japanese writing and sensibilities
>>554196709>>554196835First of all, I don't care about muh characterizations as long as they are not obscenely OOC. So I judge the media's quality instead.Second of all, Archie was sometimes trash, IDW is consistently trash and games after 2005 are burning trash. Boom's intended target audience do not exist, and the movies are 5/10, 6/10 and 8/10 respectively. prime was okayish. SatAM was kino. games made between 1992 - 2001 were peak
When was the last time Shadow and Amy spoke to each other?
>>554196709Gamenic has the least going on and is the most boring. He’s also a gary stu
>>554196709Gamenic without a supporting cast is one of the worst characters
>>554197471Every day through their phones
I love gamenic
>>554197471During the Rivalry Interactions in Crossworlds.Also, how do you feel about the commodification of character interactions the series is currently pursuing?
1 2 3 we want Yuri!
>>554196407I remember reading a doujin with this exact same plot
>>554196762My introduction to Sally was the japanese fancomic where Rouge tries to rape her and then Sally just rapes her right back
>>554192463Why would they?1. It's a movie, so there won't be shitty, buggy Sonic Team gameplay getting in the way.2. We have Metal Sonic to be the new rival. She has no need for any bullshit "iblis trigger" misunderstanding to overcome.3. She's a girl, so a sissy, nasally voice would actually fit her.4. She's from a game that also did time travel, but has Classic-era seniority and didn't completely destroy the franchise's reputation.
how much can sonic sniff with that long ass nose
>>554198118In character...
>>554198118LINK???
>>554198223your entire urethral canal
>>554197784true
>>554196407>knuckles and shadow sacrificing blaze and silver to amy as revenge for rush and 06
>>5541979754 5 6 give us yaoi
>>554198363he doesnt wanna go up there I had kidney stone surgery two weeks ago
>>554198684>he doesnt wanna go up therethat's where you're wrong, kiddo
>>554198651
>tons of faggot zoomers crying over the leak as if shitver deserves anything more than a pot to piss innow i hope its real
Sally Acorn huh. Hmph.
I will manifest mobians to be real and to have a husband who's cute and lfuffy
>>554198909zoomers don't even know who silver is
>>554198909Zoomers love IDW Silver
>>554197556Yet wind schizos will defend him. His dialogue in Black Knight was really good at capturing his whole wind character but if you look deeper, you'll see that Sonic has very few more character traits and has no flaws, which is why he never fails or loses
silvamy is now more likely
>>554199130gen z is old enough to know sonic 06 but not old enough to have actually played it before 2012
>>554199331Sonic = Godzilla. Nobody wants to watch a movie about Godzilla's character. If you change his character or add flaws then hardcore fans cease to recognize him.
What's will be rest of the cast of Sonic 4? Are Knuckles and Tails in it? Is James Marsden and the rest of the humans in it
>>554198372Who hired a Shadamy yume to run that account?
I really hope the fourth movie doesnt push the sjs in some way
How the hell can I translate a Sonic doujinshi if the AI nor the websites can recognize the sounds?
>>554198919Ok Shadow
>>554199693Knuckles series has a jewish episode with Wade's jewish family and they tell knuckles he is jewish they ask the viewer in the end to support israel
>>554199492I don’t like Godzilla period
>>554199856if i didn't know it i would think this is fake, or at minimum an exaggeration
>>554199331Windnic works if the focus is on his friends and colleagues, and shows how he impacts and inspires them. But no, the games decided to make them lame for the reason of fellating windnic, and there has never been a more misguided shitty movement in this whole franchise, comics included
>>554200072Knuckles is basically jewish now. he banks gems and had his entire clan wiped out after they got too cocky.
>>554200289Knuchles is very good jewish boy
>>554198865This is canon btwDouge is canon
>>554200289it's kind of weird that sonic's mom is hitler
I've been on the internet long enough to know that windfags learned the concept of strict adherence to original vision from satamfags who used to act like satam was the original vision
>>554199693>>554199856>>554200072Paramount is owned by the multibillionaire Jewish oligarchs (((Larry and David Ellison))), who are both very pro-Israel and resemble dystopian fiction supervillains. Imagine if Amy says she knows Krav Maga and gets compared to female IDF soldiers in the movie by a human NPC. I would be so disgusted and angry
>>554200896>Imagine if Amy says she knows Krav Maga and gets compared to female IDF soldiers in the movie by a human NPCYou made me remember that shitty wonder woman movie
Not like I didn't prepare for this turn of events, but still a little bit bummed about Sonic 4But that's a way to have Jimbotnik without resurrecting him, so who can blame ParamountAnyway>Silver will be introduced in Sonic 5>he'll be from Sol>introduced with Blaze>telekinetic - pyrokinetic pair>Mephiles will be a proper Sun-themed villain>he'll take Sonic's shadow this time>Silver's will be a jerk, a rival to Sonic>Blaze's will explore the lore of Sol and will have a connection to the main villainWould you take that
>>554199331Most characters don't fail or lose because it would be the end of their series/franchise.>OH MY GOD!!! SUPER MAN SAVED THE DAY!?!?11!?!?!1!
>>554193881I just want to hear her voice
>>554201072thats a way for Silver to undermine Blaze again so no
Superman and Goku both handle the concept of a flat inspiring character better than Sonic the Hedgehog. Change my mind.
>>554201361I won't because you're right.
>>554201361Sonic doesn't work like themSonic isn't allowed to ever lose or be seriously challenged in his beliefs or his ability to protect his beliefs
>>554201037And Wonder Woman was played by a female ex-IDF soldier in that movie. The movie was just using the actress as a front for pro-Israel public diplomacy. Shouldn't be surprising considering who dominates Hollywood
>>554201361Sonic is terrible because he leaves his friends in mid-character arc with no resolution.
>>554201687Check out the japanese version of frontiers if you ever get the chance, it triples down on this you're describing
Why are you people talking about Silver? Did something happen?
>>554201361Superman and Goku also are allowed to have backstories to properly contextualizes why they are flat characters and prefaces how they are inspirational. A page like picrel doesn't exist for Sonic.
>>554201857No, Silverfags just need to make shit up to pretend he’s still relevant
>>554201936Funny how this combination of things is the exact same for supes and goku now
>>554201936Dragon Ball hasn't been good with Goku since the Cell saga (possibly since Namek). No thoughts about Superman except none of his movies ideally go with the Flat Character arc.
>>554201857Shun Nakamura asked fans to support Silver (and so on), so fans are supporting Silver (and so on).
>>554199359Femver is such a slut bimbo
>>554201857Also, accirdubg ti a rumor, Amy is from the future and trying to change the past
>>554201237https://litter.catbox.moe/7bo4o9vsf2y4xboh.mp4
>>554202232>Also Silver, Mephiles, InfiniteWhy are his characters so fucking garbage?>>554201072Everything you describe just suggests Silver is a redundant character.
>>554202272>literal whorumors need to come from an insider and be supported by a proof. what are the chances that guy lurks here and is posting last year's shitposting when anons were joking about a time travel plot??
>>554202424>suggests Silver is a redundant character.in my defense, isnt he?he'll serve as a comic relief and obligatory rivalway more valuable than he is in canon
>>554202462tbf, it's a really basic plot when CD had time travel.
>>554196573I like Sonurge in fanart and fanon, but I absolutely can't see it done well in official material, not with these writers.
>>554202272>Amy is a Composite Silver in the moviesI FUCKING CALLED IT!
>>554201072I doubt the rumors are right desu. Paramount themselves said they have plans for Silver so it would be weird to copy paste 06 plots for Amy
orange chicken or general Tso's today, bros?
>>554202637>Paramount themselves said they have plans for SilverSource?
>>554202210>none of his movies ideally go with the Flat Character arc.What about the Donner films and the Fleischer shorts?>>554202057>nowGoku always had Grampa Gohan, Roshi and Kami as his "Kent's" stand-ins. Goku's pre-Raditz storyline could be comparable to Superman's time as Superboy.
>>554202397>sharks are resistant to diseasesI see what you fucking did
>>554202684Get Tso oomf
>>554202637Psychics make you gay.
>>554201072I wouldn't take Shitaze to be introduced at all so no.
>>554202887I can't recall anyone changing because of Supes in the Donner movies. The Fleischer shorts don't offer character development or exploration, they are simple entertaiment, no different from say the Sonic Mania shorts.
>>554202424>Why are his characters so fucking garbage?What about Amigo?
AMY STOLE SILVER'S JOBWHAT'S SILVER'S USE FOR ANYMORE?SILVER IS NO USE
>>554203307That is a strange turn of events, they changed her completely
>>554202927We need Saleta being racist to Razor
>>554203307CD did the time travel/alternate future plot first, knucklehead.
>>554203283Forgive me for moving the goalpost a bit: "Why are his Sonic characters so fucking garbage?" That's better, right?
>>554202968thanks oomf ^^
>>554202927https://litter.catbox.moe/bib15enwy9t8dath.mp4
>>554203549Based
>>554203237They have the rights to 06 but neither of the Rush games.
>>554203307>Be me>Doesn't like Amy>Doesn't like Silver>Smiling at the idea of Amy stealing Silver's shitSonic 4 sounds like its going to be a disaster of a flick but it shall be an entertaining disaster.
>>554203549a woman is defined by her chest
>>554203501She'd probably try to kill him on sight.
>>554197183Toonsite...
>>554203307>Knuckles stole the Iblis from Silver>Amy steals the Silver from SilverI can't wait for Tails to steal Mephiles from Silver
>>554203549profile pic checks out. yep the dad is a jew
>>554203549This is your reminder that Lanolin was happier when her boobs were smaller.
>>554204059What the fuck is Mephiles gonna do to Tails? Convince him to go full incel and shoot up a school?
>>554203586But none of them are born in the future, that's the idea of Silver he's not from the same timeline.
>>554203614mmmmm racist women
>>554203614Suspiciously similar to Shadow's 06 dialogue
>>554204095>& 9 other titles
>>554204095>Sonic Riders and ColorsFuse their plot, /sthg/
Here's your movie Silver.
>>554203614>I'll slaughter all of you
>>554204184Of course she was, she didn't have to deal with the back pain then
Why does Sonic say he doesn't mind playing the bad guy in Black Knight when he literally never plays the bad guy?
Krack, Slashy, and Violet are jewish zionists involved in a jewish plot orchestrated by the israeli state to police and control this general in favor of hebrew interests.
>>554204383>Roleplayer account
Shiruba
>>554204495I don't know about them but Random is an actual jew that defends Israel and says you can't criticize zionism.
>>554204478It's a coat of paint and nothing more. You know how they say Sonic is a rebel, has attitiude? Things like that? But he conveniently happens to be right. Theoretically, the Black Knight could have been a good person with mind corruption, Sonic would have killed him. But Sonic didn't. He was a non sentient apparition created by Merlina. Sonic was merely lucky that he did not actually murder a confused and mindraped old man. Sonic always makes the correct assumption in the long term. Sonic could rape someone and it turns out that person somehow deserved to be raped.
>>554204495
>>554204383Be careful with that, anon. Wouldn't want to give Fowler and Iizuka ideas
>>554204743>Sonic could rape someone and it turns out that person somehow deserved to be raped.Wild sentence
Almost 7 years ago.
>>554204383Honestly is kinda annoying to have Silver's characterization be defined by nothing but emotional dependency on Blaze.I know it's out of character but it's terrible fanon.
>>554203307>Amy somehow descended from Sonic and [fill the space]
>>554204383Canon
>>554204848thats what he does to Eggman after every battle
>>554204059I said this last thread, but he’s gonna invent a way to give himself psychokinesis
>>554204936>Movie Sonamy is incest
What if Amy ends up becoming her own grandmother with Sonic?
>>554204204I just realised Mephiles and Nine have basically the exact same goal, so Mephiles could probably corrupt regular Tails with enough effort
>>554204936>sonamy cucked by being incestplease god yes
>>554204926It's on the same level of Surge somehow falling in love with Sonic from being a rival and everyone just writers her that way
KILL SHITVER
Nine means that if Tails never met Sonic the universe would explode
>>554204234Okay, that's not stealing though since she isn't on a mission to kill Sonic to save the future. That rumor also suggests it could be another world. Silver is irrelevant to CD and all of it's ideas and concepts predate him by over a decade.
Nakamura should pay for his crimes.
>>554204914
>>554204495>Krack, Slashy, and VioletThem and Randomfox should all kill themselves, seriously.
>>554205347>Evan should pay for her crimes against Silver
>>554202397How did you manage to find audio thay sounds like Sally talking about the space colony ark?
shitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitzeshitvershitze
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Silver the Faggot
Shitze the Mary Sue
sonci....
get blue balls
>Tails Nine wanted to destroy the world>got redeemed by Sonic's BLVE cock>Mephiles wanted to destroy the world>???Which hedgehog could've redeemed that guy?
We get Surge to take the female rival role because Blaze just babysits Silver and has no antagonism with Sonic whatsoever.
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>ugh i hate uwuver fuck uwuver a-amirite s-silverbros https://youtu.be/UuPh-qF_z_Ehttps://youtu.be/NHUZB_ZQPKghttps://youtu.be/IJ7T2jgtmQM
>>554206178>>554193591
>>554205817i was about to bring that up. What made that joke come up at that time, long before IDW?
>>554206304Silverfags will scream that he's supposed to be trunks but they forget that Trunks is extremely Uwu already
>>554206304Nakamura really thought this shit was any acceptable for a Sonic game. Fucking retarded,
>>554193591>>554206361Redirecting Evan into woobifying Mephiles and using him as a sacrifice to chadify Silver
>>554206304>DubismsThose lines and the whiny dub voice are why his character got Uwu'd.>>554206460Most people on either side don't look at anything with real detail. All they can usually muster is "he's serious" or "he shouldn't be serious".
I actually like uwuver
>>554206541I like to jokingly think that Amy stopped because Shadow wasn't resisting and that was how she realized he wasn't Sonic
>>554206620If Rusty is 12 like Amy is... isn't she doomed to eventually collapse? She would age, her body would grow, her mechanical parts would not grow and the pieces holding her together would detach at the stitches
>>554202397Sally's voice is weirdly soothing
>>554206753We know uwuverfag and you need to be put 6 feet under
... but if Silver was always Uwu, then what are we blaming Evan for?Keeping it? But Silver was always meant for Uwuing and it would be ooc otherwise.
>>554205325Still, that's not Amy at all, we can have Knuckles slightly off but he's still guarding the emerald, Shadow is still an outsider, but Amy is now just very different, not even from CD since the concept of time travel was integrated to Sonic and Amy was following him around.
>>554206753You're alright, anon
I think Amy was just assaulting the hedgehogs on purpose for her own gratification. There's no sight disability that could make her mistake both shape and colour at the same time so egregiously, she just wanted to touch Shadow's and Silver's sexy chest tufts. She is a SLUT and probably has human men on the side as well
>>554206431Uwuver is that joke made canon.
Uwuver was good for Silver because it got some people to like him
sissyver the retardhogfraudver the turdhogHolyFagver the GAYHOGSHITVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrr
>>554207105>to like himI would say, make him more visible, but not in a good way.
>>554206952I think people conflate character traits and pin them on certain people. a few gears ago people thought Shadow still living by Maria's wish was an Archie exclusive character trait. It isn't. This was wrong. Silver isn't supposed to be as cute as he is in IDW but he is nowhere as stoic as the "auraver" fanart.Sonic not giving a shit about romance isn't something Iizuka did to distance from Archie or 06 but just him continuing along his interpretation of Yuji Naka's view of the character.
Maybe Silver was just never good...
Sonic seriously lacks third-way characters. Free like the wind individuals with grey morality working with anyone.Like, even mercenaries work with solely for one or the other side. Fang works with Eggman and Whisper with the Restoration.Maybe that's why Surge works so well and is GOOD. She fills that gap, worked with Clutch and the Restoration, but these partnerships served her, not them
I could masturbate to Sally's voice
>>554206753You like Deku then. Gadget should have that characterization not Silver.
>>554207312I masturbate to Antoine's voice.Dead fucking serious.
>>554207105Having Silver do shit is what will get people to like him. It's because the games were doing fuck all that people starting sucking off Archie Silver
>Silver is getting raped again because he got raped beforeMaybe this franchise is not that good...
I came 3 times to that recording of Shadow's VA being gay
>>554207405Bunnie....
>>554206952You're trying so hard to pass off the low confidence trait in 06 as uwu but thats exactly why uwuver is a problem in the first place. Fujos like you taking a reclusive trait and like dialing it up to eleven to make a character looks as helpless and pitiable as possible and go so far with it that you look back and cant even tell where you went wrong because you convinced yourself its the same when it hasn't been for the last 15 fanworks youve made of him since. It's how Evan got to this point without realizing. It's why she depicts Shadow like a helpless retard baby in her fan comic, its why she tries to redeem scourge, it's why anon's scenario of woobifying mephiles from the last thread could actually happen in her hands because tards like you take weakness as a sign of faggotry and femininity and an excuse to babify a character
>>554207386No, no, no, please keep Gadget away from Silver, that walking 06' abomination. Gadget has self-respect you know. :(
>>554207276ding ding ding
>>554203614If you're still here, what does Lanny sound like?
>>554207586We need an arc where Silver gets his mojo back
>>554207586Calm down Slashy.
>>554207586>weakness as a sign of faggotry and femininity and an excuse to babify a characterThere's something deeply hilarious about how consistent tumblrfags are at doing this despite how much they preach against gender stereotypes
Reminder that Silver is "Mysterious" and this puts him in a shitty loop where they don't want to explore his character until they can make a game focusing on him but they can't do that because he's not popular enough and he's not popular because no one understands him and no one understands him because he's "Mysterious".
>>554207746He should have gotten it back by himself in 06 or with Sonic instead of having Blaze do it. Though doing it with Sonic would have upgraded him to a character that would be perceived as a mix of Knuckles and Tails
>>554207865It's feels very in place that the movies would actually fix this and he has no place in them anymore
>”Redeem Silver!”Yeah sure, after you redeem Tails Knuckles Amy Rouge Metal etc first, all more important characters
>>554207865no he isn't mysteriousthat is a page from 2006
>>554206304>Trying to paint a Sonic character as stoic cool badass>When he looks like a walking teddy bearInfinite sucks as hell, but the mask does wonders for his design. That's why I hate his maskless design by Adam.
>>554207865mysterious is the last word I'd use to describe Silver, in hindsight the mystery was just him being brand new
>>554208083We did those like 3 times already and they failed.
I wish all [Silverfags] a very [eternal cuckolding].
>>554207865>>5542081032006 the year? Then yeah
>>554207459You say this, but as the comicfag I am, I know that when creators try to push a character too much (usually the ones labelled "woke" by some people), people will dislike them instead. That's me with Sentry, who I'm completely pissed they decided to adapt to the MCU and had to endure powerscaling debates about that asshole.
>>554208083We got Tails, Amy and Knuckles in both frontiers and the movies, Rouge in show and reducing her breast size and Metal is a villain
>>554207680https://litter.catbox.moe/n766q1mhd60elqus.mp4
>The time between Sonic 1 and Unleashed is shorter than between Unleashed and now.
>>554207838I feel this is goomba fallacy man, these are two different groups of people inside Tumblr: the feminists, and the fujoshis. Feminists care subverting gender roles, fujoshis just care about traditional gender roles even if the characters are both dudes.
>>554208448Rouge is not redeemed until her breasts could suffocate a toddler
>>554208569Hey man, shut up?
>>554208569When I was a kid, the moon landing was 40 years ago. Now Sonic is almost 40 years old.
Like, you need to be obtuse to not get SilverHe's a hedgehog who wants to change our futureContradictions eg how he's still there are common and necessary in time travel stories, and they are unimportant>>554208428Sentry was pushed after the Civil War and only for a moment, because people realised he worked as a Deux ex Machina so they killed him off nicely in SiegeIt was like that for, idk 3-4 years?
>>554208103They haven't changed their minds since then. Ian and Evan have both said they aren't allowed to explore the future setting or do anything with Eggman Nega. ST doesn't want to explore Silver's lore until he gets his game (or maybe an 06 sequel).
>>554208448I don’t mean just having them appear, but actually redeeming them. Frontiers was just lip service to potential development that likely won’t even happen. Prime was literally different versions of the characters.
>>554208648Man, you're fucking old.
>>554208569Stop.....
>>554207386No, Tails should have the uwu treatment instead
>>554208734
>>554208317They never actually tried. Just having them appear doesn’t count. Frontiers was *maybe* setup, but until it pays off they’re still in limbo
Crazy how the moonlanding is closer to Sonic 3 than Sonic 3 is to nowCrazy how Spider-man was a 30 year old franchise when Sonic came out and now Sonic is a 30 year old franchise
>>554208698Thank god someone at Sega has some brains. Ian and Evan need to be kept farrrrrrrrrrrrrrr the fuck away from any future timeline.
>>554208569Why does Unleashed still feel like a new-ish game then?
>>554204059Mephiles was be given to Shadow like he is in canon.
>>554208715I think what Silverfags say about"redeeming him" is "make him less shit" rather doing any big things like a game.
>>554208948Because it's still the best looking Sonic game
>>554206954And the role of the soldier who shot Maria was stolen by an explosion instead. You have to understand that the movies are a loose retelling of stories people may or may not already be familiar with and that they're likely having Amy play a more prominent role in her introduction for better reception. This is still Sonic CD and Silver can still have his niche role of "go to the past and kill Sonic." No one is paying to watch Amy be a damsel, that's why they shilled her for that whole year by including her in different classic games and even Superstars.
>>554208948its the last time sonic team actually had a budget
>>554209010That’s what I’m referring to as well with the others
>>554207386Gadjet is not a character, he is a self-insert for the players. He is as much of a character as, say, the Avatars from Xenoverse or the Jump Force character. As of now, Gadjet is what little we saw in Forces: a young aspiring hero who was inspired by Sonic to confront his fears in order to defeat Infinite.
>>554209034Grim.
>>554206751The English is accurate.
>>554209071Hey the others are not that shit, at least in my head
>>554208695Is still an example of what I'm trying to say. A current example is Kamala Khan with the X-men. On her own she was fine, but Marvel pushed her with the Avengers, annoying some chuds, and now they are pushing her with the X-men, annoying the X-men fans.
>>554207669Silver has self-respect. The fandom and SoA just never got the memo that he's supposed to be a delinquent and made him a nerdy faggot because that's the impression they got from his English voices.
>>554209214They are shit compared to their former selves, Tails especially
>>554208569This really just highlights how fucking barren the 2010's and 20's have been for the franchise.
>>554208539I wonder what ABT would think
>>554207865He's called "mysterious" here because this was his reintroduction since 06 with a different future.
>>554209151Based on the text provided, yes, the male character speaks in a rough, masculine pronoun style consistent with ore (俺) in Japanese.Here’s the breakdown:English lines like “YOU'RE NOT USING YOUR MINDS-POWERS TO FIGHT ME!” and “RELAX! I'M JUST MESSING WITH YOU.” are aggressive, casual, and confrontational — typical of a rough “guy talk” tone.Japanese lines match this tone closely:The use of 「おいしい未来の知識を使った?」 and 「おいしいな!ただの気配よ!」 shows informal, boastful, and taunting speech.「おいしい」 here is slangy, meaning something like “tasty” in the sense of taking advantage of a situation.The phrasing is blunt and lacks polite forms, which fits an ore-type speaker.The other speaker (responding with “N-NO! I CAN’T REALLY…” in English and possibly the more flustered lines in Japanese) uses a contrasting tone — hesitant, defensive — which reinforces the first speaker’s dominant, rough persona.So while the text doesn’t explicitly write out “俺,” the speech style in Japanese strongly implies that the aggressive male character is using ore and associated rough register.
>>554208539wow the breasts talked
>>554209047Silver would go from sucking ass to sucking absolute dick if they did not make the script made of gold for him kek, plus Amy being a a damsel (but strong) is better to show off some femininity and make everyone fall for her
>>554209265Go off silverbro go off
>>554207865He's mysterious in that he's a "negative-space"-type character, which is a very abstract and Japanese thing.
>>554209034Frontiers came out in 2022 and looks inferior to Unleashed, a 2008 game
If you were to mute the voices in 06 and gave it to someone new to Sonic, would Silver still leave the same impression?
>>554209615Yeah because he looks like a gay twink
>>554209436>Running translations and judging their accuracies through AI.It's extra funny when you can actually read a bit of Japanese and the AI starts using half broken sentences as examples for something.
>>554209607Unleashed was the last Sonic game to have an actual budget.Shadow Generations looked alright but then half that game was white.
Theyre making fun of windfags on twitter again
>>554209151That doesn't say "rude", it says "worked up", making it more like picrel.And no, it's not accurate. The east and west have fundamentally different conceptions of Silver's character. JP Silver is emotionally hot-headed and delinquent-ish while Western Silver is passive and polite. Silver being rude was literally a foreign concept to the IDW writers until fans pointed it out to them.
>>554209718I know, but it's something, the AI is more helpful than a simple Google Translate but is still not a substitute for human talent.
>>554209034>>554209607Unleashed was the last Sonic game where they actually tried. Everything afterwards is just parody and mockery of the original soul of the IP.
shitvertards think this >>554206304 is self-respect lol
>>554209615Amerishitts like to humiliate fictional characters but Japs treat them with dignity. The difference is, Amerishitts never put in the work to build a character back up to something dignified. Something something "you must profess your sins in order to prove worth" Protestant mental illness
>>554209826I'm confused about this. Why was Silver written as "delinquent" rude when he is from an apocalyptic world? I do understand if he was very brash and direct (think Cable from X-men), maybe with some military mindset since he is a survivor, but they instead wrote him as an awkward and naive fool.
>>554209838>the AI is more helpful than a simple Google Translateehhhhhhhhh. That's like saying a Parrot knows human speech better than a dog just because it can repeat phrases more accurately. In reality neither are good ways to translate human speech.
>>554209615At minimum, they would notice his design looking a bit weirder than the others, Blaze's sacrifice being hit or miss, and that he is lead around a lot by others. Would they think he is a soft faggot from that? Who knows
>>554209941>Japs treat them with dignity
>>554210009I did say that is not a substitute for human talent.
>>554209936Silverfags are confused by what the fuck everyone trying to do with Silver
>>554209468Silver would suck dick no matter what they do
>>554210052>>554209941It's the opposite with Tails
>>554209807Good.
>>554209826Would you say "being rude" and being "worked up" are synonymous in Japanese? This could be where the misinterpretation starts.
>>554210009you're fucking stupid m8, get a job
>>554210239He's not a fag KYS!
>>554210393I do. I just play enough H-games to know that AI translations are still worse than Machine translations right now.
>>554209936We already explained that those are dubisms. The dubs are responsible for making Silver into a faggot because they treat him as a literal 14 year old.
>>554209468>gestures to make you more elegant and feminineIt's 2026 br0. Being a damsel isn't a feminine thing. Just look at Tails and literally everyone in Sonic Generations. The excitement for Amy would not be the same if she was revealed struggling against the Metal fodder army and that was all you had until 2027. I'm positive they're going to girlboss her up unapologetically from the start. They already did their job getting people interested in her movie debut with that alone.
>>554210259>Implying it's only Tails.If you were made before 1998, you are a goofy supporting character that only exists to make Sonic and the new character of the week look cool.
>>554210392What translation tool are you using anon? It could help me with my personal project.
>>554206541He enjoyed it
So not only are English dubisms blatantly wrong and false most of the time but the exact same thing happens when Japanese dub English versions of the franchise.SOJ and SOA have been talking past each other this entire time. No wonder things get so heated lol.
>>554208539Post your Silver's voice. Anti Sally if you have her.
Silver (male): Speaks with ore and a rough, aggressive masculine register.Tangle (female): Speaks with watashi/atashi and an energetic, friendly, feminine register. Her lines in this scene are the defensive, surprised, or sympathetic ones.>>554210804Welcome to the world of localization, where everyone is wrong and the original intent is just a ghost story we tell each other.
>>554210689>If you were made before 1998Try “if you are anyone other than Sonic or Shadow”
>>554210216We're essentially just flowing with whatever works with Silver because SILVER FUCKING SUCKS ON 06 AND NO ONE LIKED HIM THERE
>>554210440silver's been a faggot longer than you've been alive
Silver as a character is old enough to vote, and he’s still never been good. It’s time to pack it in
>>554210756Safari's translation feature on a Mac Book. I know, don't judge me.
I just came back from work to relax and i see Amy of all characters now taking something from Silver, just give Cream psycho abilities and be done with him.
I'm gonna judge you
>>554211167I use Deepseek and DeepL, I'm not one to judge.
>>554210573>>554206751Dumbism or not doesn't excuse him going around alone looking for mommy blaze like a faggot, letting a girl like amy pull you along and sitting on a corner ponderingall exactly uwuver shit, no japanese shit will ever save him
>>554211167If you're trying to translate or de-translate games, Mtool is your best option for help honestly.
>>554211167We are totally judging you.
>>554210392They use カッカ which means something along the lines angry/heated/annoyed.
These quick Sonic Channel comics made Silver the faggotiest of the uwus ever.I very much doubt this is a dub issue.
Why does the English dub sound like it cast Shadow as a gravelly ancient and Silver as a guy with a permanent head cold, while Japan gave us a 'boku'-using ikemen and literal Jotaro?
>>554211319Meant for >>554210756
>>554209941>you must profess your sins in order to prove worthThis is common in a lot of modern woke writing but it's a Christian theme
I don't know which is worse: People holding on to grudges against a 20 year old character or people hoping that they will radically do something to "save" a 20 year old character
>>554210392>Don't be so rude!Tangle would almost never say this. She is not the polite type. Dubisms fucking suck on both sides of the aisle.
>>554211319>MtoolI'm trying to translate a doujinshi.
>>554211216This looked like a Storm cosplay at first glance at the thumbnail. Can't believe Silver stole his gray color, long quils, and white fur patch. Might as well make him an idiot and fly like a bird too. Wait...........
>>554211216Sonic 3 teased Silver and Blaze with Maddy's shirt colors so they'll be in the movies in some way hopefully
>>554211661Silver is a Storm leech confirmed
I kinda forgot but there was ever a reason why Shadow looks like a blobian hedgehog when he was made to be the ultimate lifeform? If anything, I know Shadow05 came out later with the alien dna plot, but I can totally see Shadow looking like a Black Doom goon, something with tentacles like the squid form or something closer to mephiles form 2. Tldr: I am surprised he doesn't look like an alien at all and confused why he happens to look like a hedgehog besides the meta narrative of having an evil counterpart of sonic to be rivals with.
>>554210941Silverhttps://litter.catbox.moe/7qvms6o7as1b4dr1.mp4Anti-Sallyhttps://litter.catbox.moe/rak5iutpw9ce04uu.mp4
>>554211223>>554211351
>>554211814No
>>554211627It doesn't say that, it says "Don't get so angry! It was just a joke!"
>>554211814Because they needed a reason to compare him to Sonic. Same reason why Silver is a hedeghog
>>554211661>That joke interaction in Sonic Crossworlds was right on the spotHuh.>>554211814There is no real answer. At best, Shadow Generations states Gerald gave him an "Unassuming form" and Maria was surprised she came out as a hedgehog.
>>554211661Kek
>>554211820How many voice actors do you have involved, there's at least 5 distinct different people I've heard across your webms. Where are you even finding these people?
>>554211392>カッカIs that like a vocalization?
>>554211820You sound like a fat nerd
>>554211968>Maria was surprised she came out as a hedgehog.Meant "he".
>>554212058You're talking to a weeb who doesn't understand how Katakana is written. He's mixing up a vowel with a verb.On that note, a lot of you people are really bad at being posers. Please stop, this is embarassing.
Good thing Amy won't steal Silver's personalitycvz he doesnt have one
So uwuver is actually IC? Why did Silverfags lie to us this entire time?
>>554210804Yeah Lost World, and more notably Frontiers, is an example of the Japanese side completely changing character interactions and story elements with their localization.It's kind of bizarre.
>>554211468Pete Capella's explanation. He actually tried to make Silver sound angry and serious but clearly nobody got that impression from him.https://youtu.be/wRvyfFMr5NU?si=Z0MRu13eOVfk-BiT&t=238
>>554211814a bunch of scientists got together to make "the ultimate lifeform" and accidentally made a Sonic clone. thats the joke
>>554212229>vowelI meant noun, typing on my phone is difficult.
>>554212324That makes him a sorry ass VA
As he climbs to the top of the worldNo sound, as he falls instead of risingTime standing still*, then there's blood on the *sand
>>554212245I mean they treat Sonic as hello kitty in japan so... that tracks.
>>554212324They hired the WRONG person for the job
>>554212485Nah, they actually like hello kitty
>>554212245uwuver is part of the revisionist reforms. like boomy. any remakes of any silver content or any new content featuring Silver will have uwuver in the international non Japanese versions
>>554212230Sonic already did that in the movies
>>554212230instead he stole hers
>>554212395I know you're just being a dick to Capella, but sadly you're right. Capella biggest role in the industry is fucking Silver the Hedgehog, and like Ryan Drummond he cannot get to voice anyone else.
>>554212245They thought the AU fanart would be their saving grace and went all in on it. They don't actually like Silver, they like Trunks and settle for Silver.
>>554212551So they like uwuver too?
>>554211305>>554211418Silver is a Trunks expie and Eitaro Toyoda makes him too much like Trunks. That doesn't take away from him being a headstrong delinquent character unlike Trunks.
Boom Sonic is crazy
>>554212617Ryan Drummond has voiced knuckles and shadow
>>554212685i love boomnic
IT'S NO USE!
Character personalities don't exist, just what's right for audience, Silver is now right for faggy men
>>554205208that won't stop anyone. that will make sonamyfags louder.
>>554212707Oh wow, and not much else in the industry.
Tana the Bata
>>554212839I don't remember boys liking Silver. If anything he is like Trunks, a character with the female demographic in mind.>>554212658But Trunks doesn't speak like a delinquent, he is a "boku" polite man.
Or maybe we can just admit Silver never worked? Why not just vault him?
>source is a girl I sawHoly shit you guys are the biggest gullible retards drama queens ever. Did you know if you jump a bridge you can fly?
>>554213059>a character with the female demographic in mindThat's what i said, a faggy man.
>>554213118Silver was never going to work, simply because he was never going to measure to Sonic or Shadow.
>>554212095That's Micheal J Fox's voice
>>554213059I’m a boy and I was a big fan of silver growing up. I came from a troubled background and was a delinquent myself. Never knew anything about this uwu shit until IDW came around.
I can tell most of you people who are confused about dubisms have never interacted with a foreign culture irl.
>>554213118>Why not just vault him?He's popular in Japan and he is Nakamura's personal OC.
>>554213228>measure to Sonic or Shadow.So vault everyone but them and eggman?
>Archie is peak
>>554213364>He's popular in JapanWith girls who like his uwuver self.It's fucking over for Shitver.
>>554213059Yeah, that's the "unlike Trunks" part.
>>554213374No, everyone else is fine.
>>554213314Elaborate.
>>554213118Because they never even tried to make him work once, that's like a waste of material.
>>554213312Weird. I liked Silver as a closeted gay boy, but now at days I don't care much for him.
Silver "I didn't mean to kill my wife" the Hedgehog
>>554213314Literally all I'm asking for is characters to be streamlined across the East and West but apparently both sides want to use their own versions of the same characters so yea, I'm kind of pissed because literally everyone is just talking over each other now and idk how any of this is every going to get ironed out.
>>554213438Krack...
>>554213520Tails isn't fine, he needs to be vaulted immediately along with Cream and Big.
>>554213520>fineRemember when Knuckles did nothing?
Every time we talk about Silver, it almost always ends in "maybe he just sucks"
>>554213445What gameplay benefits does rail grinding have in the Advanced games? In 3d there's balancing and subway surfer minigames, but what does it offer in 2D?
>>554213635>>554213710Everyone else is fine.
>>554213602>Literally all I'm asking for is characters to be streamlined across the East and WestSonic was never meant for that. Sonic was literally built in mind for Americans, takes inspiration from Michael Jackson, President Bush, Santa Claus and Mickey and Felix and other USA shit.
>>554213750Sonic was never good and it's Silver's fault, he went back in time and made the games before 06 suck too, just ask any journalist.
>>554213782Even Metal, Amy and Rouge?
>>554194116What about Fleetways Sonic the comic?
>>554213602>to be streamlined across the East and WestNo the fuck not, I don't want Hello Kitty in my burger franchise thank you.
>>554213889Rouge is already soft vaulted by not appearing in the movies and being censored in Generations. She's not fine. At least, not in this sense.
>>554213750No it just sucks talking about him because people confuse him with memes
>>554213870I know you’re joking, but he may as well have. After 06 it’s clear ST wanted nothing to do with any of the prior games outside of like Sonic 1
Yo, listen up here's a storyAbout a little guyThat lives in a blue worldAnd all day and all nightAnd everything he sees is just blueLike him inside and outsideBlue his houseWith a blue little windowAnd a blue corvetteAnd everything is blue for himAnd himself and everybody aroundCause he ain't got nobody to listen to
>>554213750That's because the schizos say that no matter what.
>>554214107>this anon gets it
>shitverfags in shambles
>>554214107"i've got a girlfriend and she is so blue"Wtf Sonic?
>>554213960Lesbian before it was trendy
>this fanbase hates silver so much, they're gonna let the girlypop bimbo steal his premiseoh my god
>>554213842They should have used the time stone in 06 instead of making the chaos emerald open portals out of nowhere
All these talk about Silver is reminding me I have blocked like 10 accounts on my Tumblr who do nothing but talk about Silver. It's accounts like "Understanding Silver", "Silver explored" or some crap. What is the damn obsession with this furball? I'm reminded of that weirdo who was a lolcow a few years ago because of how obsessed she was with him.
>>554213524There are cultural dichotomies hard-baked into language itself. Some of these dichotomies are either awkward or straight up inappropriate to bring up within other cultures.A good example is how everyone on here thinks Sonic and Tails taking a shower together is "lewd" or gay when in reality, if you were a Japanese man and you read that, it would be perfectly normal because:A; Public showers and spas are commonly used in Japan to the point where it's seen as normal.B; Close friends/siblings are fine bathing together even well into adulthood.These dichotomies are simply inappropriate to bring up in cultures that descended from puritanical Judeo-Christian values.Another dichotomy that is inappropriate to bring up is the concept of being rude or mean = you're a bad person since, again, Judeo-Christian values assume that if you're rude or disrespectful you must be punished where as with Buddhist philosophy people getting humbled is more of a slow burn and the responsibility of the universe, hence the concept of Karma.Actually, Karma as a concept is brought up in a narrative sense a lot in Sonic but western dubisms usually wash it out for it to be a more "Good vs. Evil" story.
>>554212015Every voice clip is taken from other games or series, so I'm not sure. As many as there are playable characters >>554212095Not my voice
>>554213750But he does suck?
>>554214347Amy should have always been about time travelling, little plannet and the time stones.Why the hell they only gave her magical cards without relating to any of the above is something I never quite understood.
>>554214347I begin to realize this fandom is slowly sabotaging itself this entire time
We love jester Sonic right?
>>554214107I have a blue houseWith a blue windowBlue is the colour of all that I wearBlue are the streetsAnd all the trees are tooI have a girlfriend and she is so blue
>>554214403We will keep having to talk about and deal with Silver so long as his cult fanbase persists. They really act like he’s on equal footing as Sonic and Shadow “he just needs a chance to prove it”. Bitch, that was 06. It sucked shit and doomed the franchise. Just eat your L
Silver also rode off the most popular species in the franchise. He also stole an entirely different character for sometime. He should just steal Rouge's too role since he's a more effective thief.
>>554214505Because that's about Sonic, Amy is about love and being a compassionate cute girl.
Surge’s butt
>>554214403Silver is the most misunderstood and misrepresented character in the franchise. Sonic Team doesn't explain him so fans do.
>>554214710-smells like poo.
>>554213558>they never even tried to make him work onceSonic 4 doesn't stop being for classicfags just because it's shit. Forces doesn't stop being for darkagefags just because it's shit. The times when Silver shows up doesn't stop being for his fans just because those appearances are shit
>>554214845and it runs down your leg and into your shoethe music stops cuz it smells like poowatchu gonna do?
>>554214690That’s what pisses me off the most about Silver. They earnestly tried to make hedgehogs equivalent to saiyans with his inclusion. Picrel does not make sense otherwise
>>554214347>this fanbase hates silverwrong
Last chance to escape ShitazeAmy stole it cuz she ships it
You can't fix Silver without relating him with Sonic somehow.if he has fuck all to do with Sonic he has no reason to exist whatsoever.
>>554214505Amy is from the present. And CD time travel is only in the name
>>554214596yes...
>>554214505Amy just started a "THE GIRL". Like, a literal girl, she has no powers, she has no abilities, she is just "THE GIRL". Think of any Sports anime you seen as a kid, where there is a girl character but her only role is to be THE GIRL in an all male cast. They gave her a hammer because she couldn't fight on her own, they gave her a talking car in R just so she could keep up.Her tarot cards being interpreted as weapons or whatever is a very late development, and if Amy was thought out with what we know about her now, she would have had an actual connection to Little Planet and the Time Stones instead of her being shoehorned in a game she had nothing to do with just to add stakes in the Metal Sonic race. After all, she was just a GIRL, a damnsel in distress.
>>554214609Blue are the people here that post aroundBlue like my corvette it's standing outsideBlue are the words I say and what I thinkBlue are feelings that live inside me
And there's my car keys!
>>554214861>for his fansNigga they don't even know his character anymore, "i'm a realist" is that someone who changes fate to you? it is what i said, they are not trying.
>>554215025At least the movies won't have "muh tanabata". They couldn't even get Maria right so they sure as shit aren't going to include something as esoteric as that.
>>554215021The West hates Silver, that's what's important because the West makes up most of their profits. What the West says is what goes, that's why Rouge who's not on this list, gets better treatment than Silver, because she's popular in the West and Silver isn't.
>>554214791Dear God man, why are you now trying to act like a protestant trying to defend its (interpretation of) God? I sincerely cannot understand this stupid devotion to a walking teddy bear.
>>554215021The Japanese fanbase is so small they can be disregarded. This poll actually proves that they SHOULD be ignored. Silver any higher than 6 is an outrage
>>554215278Western fans love Silver too now. Mostly for the wrong reasons but still.
>>554215246>dubism
The movies were directed by a Shadowfag and most Shadowfags hate Silver because they see him as a cheap knockoff of their own hedgehog. Silver was screwed from the start.
>>554214443>Judeo-Christian values assume that if you're rude or disrespectful you must be punishedI don't know if I agree. Western media usually makes Sonic ruder than his Japanese counterpart and often this is seen as a good thing. (i.e. the banter between Tails and Sonic in Colors and Lost World are mostly exclusive to the English dub but was excised out of the Japanese version) >KarmaI can kind of see that. I think about this scene in Colors and how it eventually pays off in the end.
>>554212095Bruh
I dislike Amy fans. They always come off as super defensive weebs with a fetish for little girls. I'm not even joking.
What Sonic character is it more likely to spread miss info over the internet and leave for personal pleasure?
How would things be now if Silver wasn't a hedgehog? If he was any species other than a hedgehog, or even a cat? Would fans love Silver the Dog?
>>554215613Can schizos stop projecting for 5 minutes?
>>554215746Charmy
>>554215652I think due to Sally Acorn and the early dubs that downplayed Sonic's affection for Amy, Amyfags have incentive to be anti-west that was left unchecked for years thus creating the modern Amyfag who hates everything not from japan
>>554215652Amy acts 20 and sounds 40
ListenJust shut the fuck up, everything we believe is speculations and ideals that can change in one single switch from one single writer, for all intents and purposes, anything new is still yet to comesNow let's post some hot Blaze
One more time, we're gonna celebrateOh yeah, alright, don't stop the dancingOne more time, we're gonna celebrateOh yeah, alright, don't stop the dancing
>>554215746Eggman, Infinite, and Mephiles
>>554215789Can you stop being assblasted by posts that don't even address you?
>>554214370that is just like that nigga ian flynn bringing it up in shadow generations im so glad i bought it way before they took it downhim bringing up the time stones is like Hannibal Buress asking about what Drag-on has been up to towards Nick Cannon during his interview on the Eric Andre show. Or like a savvy music buff bringing up a one hit wonder's discography when everyone only knows that band's only hit song.
>>554215652>They always come off as super defensive weebs with a fetish for little girlsYoshiiwii1 and that other guy in picrel
>>554215853Well, the two Amy stans I met were really antiwest. One was some weirdo who enjoyed Mecha anime but was very, very weird about Amy and drawing porn of her and Cream. The other person was some woman from I don't know where in Asia who was into shotacon.
>>554215850Vector doesn't hit him hard enough
>>554211490
>>55421513206 had the deepest, most complex story in Sonic history.
>>554216143Vector would NEVER
>>554215771He'd have his duality with Blaze but wouldn't have SSS propping up his popularity. He wouldn't get conflated with Shadow either.
>>554216195And that's not a good thing.
It really comes down to having a dedicated characterfag in Sonic Team. Iizuka obviously for Shadow. Nakamura still being there is why Silver hasn’t been vaulted yet. Tails and Knuckles don’t have anyone, and that’s why they’ve been ruined
Classicfags can't handle complex stories. They want arcadeslop
>>554215920>EggmanNothing but shitposts about Sonic.>Infinite and MephilesAll related to Shadow. The former just shitting on him while the latter spreads malicious rumors.
>>554216374I want Ys
>>554215771>>554216238silver being from the sol dimension and learning to use the sol emeralds would be kino
>>554215771He still goes Super so nothing at all, maybe less SSS but not a lot.
I think the best way to let people like Silver is to show him get absolutely curbstomped and actually pick himself up from it narratively and prove himself.
>>554216341If Nakamura retired, someone will take his place as the Silver stan. Like Evan.
>>554211820It is interesting to me seeing Westshit characters portrayed as if they're Japanese characters with dub voices to Japanese musics
>>554215771The answer to this question is depends entirely on whether or not non-hedgehog Silver can still go super.
>>554215992it sounded like he learned about the time stones from a wiki but never actually played sonic cd
>>554216456If Silver went super and wasn’t a hedgehog that would be even dumber, because then why wouldn’t Tails and Knuckles be able to?
>>554216436Give him a new name and a new shape while you at it.
>>554216374I like both
Why is this paring so popular on this General anyway?
>>554215771People would genuinely care even less about Silver if he wasn't a hedgehog. Him being what he originally supposed to be (A mink named Venice) wouldn't have him autistically associated with Sonic and Shadow and begging for importance. No "Hedgehog Trio".
>>554216491You want him to get the nu-Lara treatment?
>>554216341Stop pushing this narrative, Nakamura is isn't involved with 90% of the projects that have Silver and has spent years away from Sonic Team working on other series.
>>554216561and plus in the game you don't actually time travel with them, if anything it's the sign posts labelled past and future that are the ones making you time travel, if anything. the time stones were more of a "undo" tool to fix the bad futures rather than a physical device that sonic time traveled with
>>554216581It would mean they can, the situation is not called for them yet.
>>554216660Is it? I like Aleena and Paulie but I never really thought about it like this. I always had a twisted headcanon that Aleena is the bad future end for Paulie and Brenda.
Archie is terrible not because it's westshit but because it's out of character.SatAM is fine since it's in character for the time.
>>554216775Heroes did, but they chose to give them cuck bubbles
>>554216660coping over sega's schizophrenic management
>>554216374Sonic( and the rest of the legacy cast), as a character, was not built for stories more complex than S3&K or Flicky's Islandm just like Simon Belmont wasn't built for more complex stories than Castlevania 2.
>>554216737I haven't played Tomb Raider since the....was the 2014 game the first, second or third reboot? I can't remember. Either way, idk what you're talking about.
>>554216751He was involved with Forces, which was noted to have Silver in it for no reason.
>>554216926They worked for SA1 and 2
>>554216341>Nakamura still being there is why Silver hasn’t been vaulted yetHow retarded are all of you about how workplaces function?
>>554216840Archie sullied SatAM's reputation. It has some hype moments but is terrible. If you actually watch SatAM Sonic is still OOC but he isn't NEARLY as OOC as Archie would make you think. SatAM isn't a romance soap opera.
With Sonic currently on the warpath, this would be really fucking funny.
>>554217045Nakamura literally said he pushes for Silver-related projects.
>>554216847Yes because they're not that brave and stupid.
>
Which Sonic characters would draw their adversary as a loser and themselves as a winner?
Gabs will talk about how it's illegal to feature Silver doing anything with any girl who isn't Blaze and then draw this
I will fuck Tangle straight
>>554217179what?
>>554217217No retard, he said he wants to, be he has no control since it's not his decision
>>554217050he's about as OOC as movienic which is fine especially considering this was before the games had meaningful stories
>>554217219Huh? If that was the case they wouldn’t have been there at all
>>554217041They had to be completely reworked for SA1(&2) respectively. Likewise the series continued after those games.
>>554216840Yeah, that's why Sally levels exist.
>>554217304Shadally is the crackship of fear
>>554217304Gabs is just Krack as a Silverfag instead of a Shadowfag.
>>554216959And 06 had Blaze with no explanation either. You're trying to argue that Nakamura is the only reason Silver is ever even used when Nakamura still isn't even involved with the majority of things involving Silver.
>>554216942Basically she gets tossed like a ragdoll throughout the story down rivers and rockslides barely living through them. Think the first time of Sonic vs the Titan but more frequent and brutal
>>554217447Is it really “reworking” if it’s the first time any of them were given voices or a narrative?
>>554217281Jet
>>554217405I don't think you understand. It means Nakamura still champions Silver. He pushes for Silver. If he leaves, no one else will. Nakamura is also a senior at Sega. It would be rude for them to just outright vault his character due to Japanese culture.
>>554217486No, Gabs is actually nice and doesn't engage in petty drama.
>>554217547I guess but it would serve an actual narrative purpose. Like fake-out an ending for the game where after playing it through with Sonic and Shadow, the characters still lose because Silver screwed up somewhere and he has one last shot to figure out what went wrong and then you get to play as Silver for the the 3rd playthrough and true ending.
>>554217486I guess
>>554216959>No reasonYeah because the entire cast knew Eggman has a weapon before Eggman even knowing that.
>>554217410Movienic and SatAMnic are two different eras of the same thing but SatAMnic doesn't really need a mentor until season 2 started dumbing him down. They both make Sonic way more hyperactive and immature than he should be.
>>554216238He has no duality with Blaze bro.Blaze get's inserted because Silver has absolutely nothing going on for him.Blaze's duality is with Sonic, she predates Silver by one year, Shadow's duality is with Sonic, Knuckle's duality is with Sonic, this is what is wrong as hell with Silver.
>>554217281Most of the villains, especially Eggman.
>>554217304Are Shadow and Sally at least close to being in-character in this pic?
>>554216808>I always had a twisted headcanon that Aleena is the bad future end for Paulie and BrendaYou aren't the first one with that idea
>>554217847I'm no Krack Random or Scribblefag but Sally is very touchy and Shadow isn't touchy at all so it makes sense as far as I know? No halflids. No sign of Shadow reciprocating. He looks properly confused. SatAM Sally and Adventure era Shadow are the most in character for characterfags right?
Silver being a hedgehog with an S at the start of his name is the only reason any of you even talk about him.
>>554217670>He pushes for Silver. If he leaves, no one else will.Silver is popular with Sonic Team internally and with the Japanese fanbase.
>>554216998Ian + Evan are absolutely awful sharing the same writing spot, her ideas clash with his and I don't know if I am up for reading a Sonic comic with evan as the main writer.
>>554217602Yes. lolDo the previous games not count because they didn't have voices or as involved as a narrative?
>>554216840>>554217050>>554217780SHUT THE FUCK UP VIOLET
>>554218003That depends on if this image is older than 2023
>>5542176701- he champions Silver and that did nothing at all2- he did not create Silver alone, it's a fucking fictional character not a child3- Even if he leaves, even if his co-workers hate his ass, Silver is still going to be there because his sonics teams property and not one dude who just so happen to like him.4- he has a job, he's not there to be cheerleader for one character
>>554218151>Tails tied with SonicYeah I sure do believe they actually abide by this horse dung
why are we suddenly throwing namefags around?
All characters made after 2003 and including Rouge and Omega need to be vaulted. Sonic needs a return to his roots. A reboot of the entire lore is necessary to reintroduce new fans to the series and to bring back the credibility of characters like Tails and Knuckles who have been thorougly undermined.
>>554218151What do you think ST internally sees in Silver? Is it his gameplay potential, do they like his design, maybe they just like working with his Japanese VA?
Making Silver a hedgehog wasn't even Nakamura's idea. The rest of ST told him to do that.
>>554218267Ian and Evan refuse to communicate with each other and refuse to confront each other over obvious disagreements. Everything about Surge encapsulates this issue.
>>554218295Were we not talking about how they can function narratively for certain stories? Designs have nothing to do with that
>>554217451>dyke sally 80%Sally being a nude slut is half her character
Violet's obsession with clarifying that Archie Sally is OOC is a good thing
>>554217784That's the best thing about Silver he's the least leech of them all.
>>554218465Nah, they just need to give them their own space. The legacy cast is probably holding them back from exploring the more complex stories they were designed for.
>>554218625He is literally held up by being closely associated with the two most popular characters in the series. He is the textbook definition of nepo baby.
>>554218625The problem is, if he doesn't relates to Sonic in anything, why the hell are people trying to give him protagonist or deuteragonist roles AT ALL?Dude can't carry storytelling with his telekinetic ass alone.
>>554218745There are tons of fanworks and stories that put the legacy cast in more serious stories. It’s really not as hard as you’re making it out to be, ST just lacks writing talent
Silver is loved, some fags simply can't comprehend this.
>>554218502His themes, ideas and character. All the shit they never explain.
>>554218136We talk about Silver because of the same topics and the same results>Silver has great potential>Silver's 06 eng voice ruined him>Silver's 06 story was shit regardless of the voices>Silver was never uwu in japanese>Silver was cool in Rivals>Silver sucks>Silver was never good>They never tried with Silver to give him the chance to be good
>>554214476Make sure to use Satam for writing Sally instead of Archie
>>554218625Then explain why he’s a hedgehog and always paired in a trio with them
>>554218878you just said "how can he make a story alone when he's alone?"
>>554216998Gabs is right
>>554219018That’s all shit that needs to be explained immediately. It wasn’t, either through a lack of ability to or a lack of desire to. Either way, we’re long past that point
>>554219018Do the japanese just look at random things and say they're these complex cogs in the universe? It's just a tree, bro.
>>554219091I said "least" not completely off the brand.
Why does Silver make this place seethe?
>>554219326Literally every culture did this
>>554218548Narratively the Legacy cast is mostly relegated to supporting characters to make Sonic and the new character look cool. While this is important its also indicative of how they weren't really built for how complex Sonic stories had gotten during the dark age.
>>554219354Because he's held up by empty hype moments and aura.
>>554219030>Silver has great potential>Silver was never good>They never tried with Silver to give him the chance to be goodAren't these the same thing?
STOP POSTING ABOUT SILVER AND POST ABOUT BLAZE NOW!
You don't act as stupid with Zeti when it comes to understanding character(s)Even if info about them is 15 times more sparse
>>554219326>>554219401That's autism. It's like when English language arts teachers in high schools claim that a chair and its color symbolize something in a fictional story
>>554219163No, I will make that more clear.I said he shouldn't be constantly paired with other characters without developing that story first.First relate Silver to Sonic, and then to Shadow and then I will understand why the hell they get paired together, we are forcing him on deuteragonist roles without developing a reason for that AT ALL.
Unrelated but I like Silver with Rotor. I imagine they would be wonderful buds with Silver being a huge help on machinery with Rotor, in turn then guiding Silver with mentally wising him up on society's real cruel face and everything that teaches away his naivety. Silver had a mentor sorta like that anyway on his own Archie future, Mogul with changed mind and everything.Also Silver as Rotor's plaything. :3>>554213314>>554214443Yup, pretty much.
I don't like the idea of being seen as a Sonic authority figure for any reason that sounds like a pain
>>554219280You'd never be able to explain it to the internet pre-2006. They'd just say it's stupid anime bullshit and shit on Silver even more. >>554219401Maybe so but we're so used to the Christian explanation of the world that other types of spiritualism just seem wacky.
>>55421935406 made the fandom bad, so Silver is bad.
>>554219354I'm supposed to view him on the same level as Sonic and Shadow and yet he hasn't done anything to justify it beyond being the same species as them.
>>554219507she's cool and deserves a proper third team member
>>554219632We?
>>554218575Sally in SatAM wasn't a massive slut>nudeShe's a cartoon character. That's like saying Porky Pig is a nudist cause he never wears pants.
>>554219507I only have silvaze
>>554219414Where was the legacy cast at its best? SA1. What did SA1 give them that few other games did? Individual narrative focus. No shit they’re gonna be worse when they’re relegated to being cheerleaders. Them not trying doesn’t mean they’re not capable of being in complex stories
>>554215491>for the wrong reasonsAnd what would be then the "right" reasons to enjoy him?>uuuh 06lol>uuuh rivalslol>uuuhYeah, thought so.
>>554219507Blaze is soved, she has no narrative problems outside of the ones created by the unsolved problems of Silver, the problem is with Silver.
>>554219695>CreamThat belongs to Amy you skankAlso Blaze has Marine and Gardon
>>554219030>They never tried with Silver to give him the chance to be goodThey did. It's just so botched by localization and Sonic Team's insanely obtuse storytelling that nobody understands or likes it.
so violet is like krack except for sally instead of shadow?
>>554219632That’s my point, Silver IS stupid anime bullshit
>>554219663The fandom was already going down the shitter as early as 05. Genesis nerds didn't get along with the Gamecube kids at all, and there were constant demands for the series to go back to its roots.
>>554219807Anon she is a narrative problem, considering she has no reason to exist and brings nothing new to the table, how do you think she has a very good game but fails to be more popular then the chaotix?
>>554219869Violet doesn't understand Sally at all.
>>554219839>That belongs to Amynot liking how you phrased that, I just grabbed a random art pieceCream still works better with her than Amy anyway>Marine and GardonI like Gardon, but he's not the third member
>>554219695If you think about it Mephiles was momentarily the third member of team dimension
>>554220096>SpoilerShe has to be OOC and retarded for her to work with Blaze, actually every character who's next to Blaze becomes exactly like that, Cream doesn't deserve that fate.
>>554219030>They never tried with Silver to give him the chance to be goodi.e. everything he did in Forces and Generations doesn't count because it doesn't meet some requirement of counting as effort to make Silver cool
>>554219280ST presents things in way that's mostly comprehensible to the Japanese but makes no sense anywhere else, even without localization changes.>>554219326Silver is all about world peace shit. It's why he's from the apocalyptic future and appreciates beauty and crap. It's all in service to themes which is arguably a problem in itself.
>>554215491>Mostly for the wrong reasonsAll the """right""" reasons are just headcanon potential bullshit. Give it a rest, shitverbro.
>>554220096>she is a poorfag commoner bozo your highness. shall i lock her in the cellar?
How w the fuck do you mischaracterize an American Sonic oc
>>554220096>I like Gardon, but he's not the third memberLet's see, you're going to make a Knuckles but with a twist, and now he's an 'original' character right?
>>554220096>Cream still works better with her than Amy anywayBecause Blaze makes everyone worse and no one bats an eye at Cream being stuck as a helpless npc to save
Silver the Porcupine
>>554220374Be named Ian
The third member is Sticks but you all hate that answer
>>554220096What about Norman?
uh oh silverschizo spam replying to blazetranny
>>554217670This sound like a schizo theory but I believe it kek
>>554220321they can't even be bothered to make him playable
>>554220283yeah, but he didn't really interact with Blaze, and Blaze was in 06 for logistical reasons and not because they really planned for her to be there>>554220286>>554220516I disagree>>554220443I'm not going to do anything because it's not for me to figure out, I'm not Sonic Team>>554220606his color language and character doesn't really support being grouped with Blaze and Marine
>>554220039> Female rival with the same powerlevel of a male hedgehog, works with SonicNot too difficult of a role to write for, can't you imagine that character as a concept?.Now what the hell is Silver supposed to be that can be easily solved in a concept that relates to Sonic? "Light Sonic"? but Sonic is already that in relation to Shadow. "Hero Sonic"? But SOnic is already that in relation to Shadow.
>I've met a very dangerous and deranged lady who wants to kill all my friends! better take her to my home and tell her everything!
>>554220343The right reasons would be what they talk about in the Twitter Takeover(minus the weird little brother line)https://files.catbox.moe/kgyjm1.mp4
Falls "Offs" Tower
Bun!
>Play Sonic games>Watch Sonic X>never read a single Sonic comic until 2022>things that are common knowledge to me are apparently deep cut things for people who "Truly understand Sonic"It seems like reading IDW or Archie fully damages how you read these characters
Sarah Connor = SonicKyle Reese = AmyI guess they'll have a son in the future too.
>The right reasons would be what they talk about in the (headcanon westshit)Yep, shitverbro on suicide watch.
>>554220675No one was playable but Sonic during that time, so getting to be a boss battle and fight the main enemy was more than anyone not Sonic was going to get, placing that character firmly as very important to Sonic Team
YAMEROOOOOOOOO
894Shut up Randomfag.
>>554220743What fanfic are you quoting?
>>554220742Light Sonic is not Sonic, he's the concept of freedom not purity, he doesn't work he goes on adventures.>Female rival with the same powerlevel of a male hedgehog, works with SonicYou just described 3 characters, Metal Knuckles and Shadow, that's her issue, there's nothing new.>But the female-And?
>>554220742>"Light Sonic"? but Sonic is already that in relation to Shadow. "Hero Sonic"? But SOnic is already that in relation to Shadow.Sonic has always been neutral. Even before 06.
sointroduce Silver in Shadow's show and no harm will be done
>>554220742>Female rival with the same powerlevel of a male hedgehog,Because of an asspull alternate dimension that she's dutybound to protect, so she has no reason to show up in the main series outside of goofy spin-offs
>>554221050Rush
>>554221104Sonic has literally never been neutral.
>>554220987who gives a fuck what's important to sonic team if they don't have the talent or the budget to make anyone else care?
>>554220959What's headcanon about it? That's how he is in Rivals and 06.
What kind of character acts like Sally Acorn? If I am trying to write her who is she similar to? Someone used Momo Yaoyarozo from MHA as an example and I just skimmed through their tropes and they have the same ones but apparently she's a minor character so who is a better example?
Silver being a Sonamy descendant would make sense, desu.
>Rivalslol>06lmao
>>554221291I'm very convinced Blazefags never played any game but just listened to rush music and called it a day
Sonic is about living life to the fullest without letting the past hold you down. Shadow is the opposite of that. Now we have Silver muddying up something that was so perfect
>>554221403> All three canonically like Sonic moreYes, even Whisper, EVEN WHISPER
>>554221461Not a Blazefag, now point to me any situation where Sonic has been neutral.
>>554221549Ian's word doesn't count
>>554221360Aqua from Kingdom Hearts is very similar to Sally.
Seething about Silver's existence again?
>>554220443>Let's see, you're going to make a Knuckles but with a twist,Ian planned to have Bunnue revealed to be from the Sol Dimension. So he mightve been setting her up to be the Knuckles.
>>554221314>who gives a fuck what's important to sonic teamIt's important to recognize who is getting shilled regardless of the budget and talent behind the ideas
>>554221452Rivals 2 is good actually shut up>>554221507...Anon That's Blazes concept being held down by her past because of bullying like Tails, Silver doesn't even relate to it, hell he doesn't cares about the past but about the future more then the present.
All shippers are just rapists who want to force two random characters to fuck.
>>554221607Whisper doesn't like or trust Silver in the actual comic either.
>>554221337Rivals never made it into Japan and it's a loophole on canon status because Eggman Nega.06 LITERALLY erases itself from timeline.
>>554221683Kingdom Hearts is something I understand. Thank you!
>>554221784Highest IQ post I fear
>>554221784And there's nothing you can do about it.
>>554221813but she doesssssshave you read 76
>>554221549>Yes, even Whisper, EVEN WHISPERDamn, he fucked her too?>>554221683>Aqua from Kingdom Hearts is very similar to SallyNot at all, bro. What do you mean?>>554221813>Whisper doesn't like or trust Silver in the actual comic either.Fuck.
>>554221754Ian doesn't view the Sol dimension as a parallel world and so doesn't see Blaze and Marine as Sonic and Tails parallels that could use a Knuckles.
>>554221784NO WE'RE NOTWE LOVE THE CHARACTERS AND WANT THEM TO HAVE HAPPY ENDINGS
Stop making Danot steyl OCsStart making powerful badniks to kick sonic's ass
>>554221943> Damn, he fucked her too?IIRC Ian was asked what is Whispers closest relationship, and Ian proceeds to describe Whisper's relationship to Sonic as the closest, most intimate and most trustworthy one she has.
>>554222076>Ian doesn't view the Sol dimension as a parallel worldBecause he wants either the whole dimension to go kaput or merge with Sonic's. He REALLY wants Blaze in Sonic's World full time.
>>554222102not helping your case by posting a rape ship
Same shit, different anus
>>5542218411, Silver's character is consistent between 06 and Rivals. They're both SegaSonic Silver.2, Silver is still the Silver from 06.
>>554221943>Not at all, bro. What do you mean?Responsible character who acts like they know better than the rest of the cast. Protective and motherly towards other male younger peers like Ventus (good stand-in for Miles). Father figure is dead/MIA. Skilled and responsible. Good people skills. Against Ventus and Terra adventuring for fear of their own safety. Extremely rigid and prefers to do things the 'proper' way. She has a very black and white conception of the world similar to Sally and she can be quite sassy and serious when the situation calls for it.Aqua and Sally are incredibly similar within their respective debuts with the difference being that Aqua is far physically stronger which fits given the comparative powerscaling of BBS vis a vis Sonic. Both characters are incredibly agile and rely on their intellect, Sally with Computers and Aqua with magic, to make up for their lack of raw physical prowess.Sally and Aqua are both responsible teenage females with a motherly like role thrust upon them at a young age.
>>554221813The first guy she talks to after her trauma and teams with 4 times?
>>554222121I'd rather design powerful monsters with cool abilities to be standard everyday threats rather than robutts
>>554222151>Ian proceeds to describe Whisper's relationship to Sonic as the closest, most intimate and most trustworthy one she has.Well there you go, folks. Sonic the Chad struck again.
>>554222102surge sucked dick as a rival, so you want to suck dick full-time
>>554222340Robutts are cooler THOUGH
>>554222339Sonic is the one that brings Whisper out of her shell. Silver in IDW is an annoying sperg and overgrown child. You can't respect someone who fawns over you and doesn't understand your need for space.
>>554222340>robuttsI love robutts!
>>554222414>surge sucked dick as a rivalBecause she's going up against Sonic, when her nemesis should've been Amy but not in the way you think. A rival for Amy would be a LOVE rival, not a fighting one. Throw out all this realistic mental health shit and make Surge a tsundere for Sonic, so she'd be Amy's rival when it comes to capturing his heart.
>>554222151>>554222385>you can just say stuff here and everyone wont check thatQ: Who among the cast do you feel would have the most success forming a bond with her?Ian: Right now Sonic. She trusts him and she knows that he gets her and keeps it real simple so she's 100% cool with him. Everybody else, varying degrees of openness.
>LOVE rivalKILL yourself
>>554222328To add onto this, both characters receive lots of attention from male characters for their good looks and wear skimpy clothing. Japanese Aqua has a bare back. Aqua is ogled by Phil from Hercules and Zach Fair asks her on a date. Her level of attraction and influence over susceptible males is very comparable to Sally Acorn's within SatAM and the allure she inspires within potential suitors.Sally and Miles' bond is comparable to Aqua and Ventus's. With both as maternal big sister figures who want to prevent them from going on adventures because they view them as too young, fragile, and inexperienced despite their competence.
>>554222772Sonic, the Chad you can trust.
>>554222772That's still damning for Silver. Not to mention if Ian really wanted to tell the truth (he can't because of mandates) he'd mention that Whisper is a lesbian and only has eyes for Tangle.
>>554222772>Q:We all know that Whisper has trouble feeling comfortable around other people after what happened to the Diamond Cutters. Sure she and Tangle get along really well. Actually, they get along so well I bet that they'd make great roommates even! Anyway back on topic. Which if any of the cast does Whisper feel the most comfortable being around aside from Tangle? And if nobody who among the cast do you feel would have the most success forming a bond with her?Ian: Right now Sonic. She trusts him and she knows that he gets her and keeps it real simple so she's 100% cool with him. Everybody else, varying degrees of openness. She's comfortable enough that she can let her guard down around Amy, she would trust Knuckles to a certain degree. Cream's not a threat, Cream needs to be protected at all costs. She trusts Tails well enough but all of them are still kind of like one degree away of wholly letting her guard down. They're friends, she accepts their presence without double checking them but they aren't someone she can't drop every defense around. But yeah Tangle and Sonic are completely in the clear.Kyle: What about Silver? Guess she hasn't really met him so much but...Ian: Silver...I think she trusts him enough but she's wary of his naivete and his power. He means well, she doesn't think ill of him, it's just he can do a lot of damage and he can be tricked into pointing himself in the wrong direction so she needs to keep an eye on him.The IDW crew thought Silver was so inexperienced that he's somehow new to using his own powers and needs to be watched over.
>>554222901It's Amy, bro. She's a whole Shoujo character. Her rivals would be the shoujo love kind, not Shonen fighting kind like Sonic.
Imagine if Surge had to fight Blade of Courage Sonic
>>554223152I feel like Imada would buff her
I said DIE
>>554223232Still lose to Sonic because it's Sonic.
ごめんなさい。But your words are empty.I love Silver, I will never not love Silver.I live with the burning desire to HOPE just ike my hero!While every waking moment you to bad mouth Silver and devalue you him, I will always be here. The shining LIGHT that will pierce falsehood, and uwufacations.My HOPE transcends shitposting.My HOPE is BEYOND your RAGE.MY HOPE BOUNDS past your mockery.FREEDOM approaches to shatter through the ceiling of MISERY.In the night all that you will see is my HOPES BlINDING LIGHT!You think you know of my Future, but I still control the past!I I had to choose the world or my HOPES and DREAMS.I'd choose my HOPES AND DREAMS.I know in my heart of HEARTS! I can make it a REALITY!
I always believed that Sonic was as strong as he is in BOC. Day one. Sonic is incredible.
>>554223269well duh, but it'd be entertainingif "the hero winning" ruins that for you I dunno what to tell you
Marine the Raccoon is cool
>>554222904Yes, Aqua is bae.
>>554223354I’m glad the japs could give you the gary stu you always wanted
>>554223082ABT's OC is all about that so he's biasedalso>he can be tricked into pointing himself in the wrong direction so she needs to keep an eye on himWhisper in #64>Go, Silver. I don't want to misguide you again
>>554223409The coolest
>>554222771they tried that with blaze and it went nowhere because only someone as aggressive as amy is gonna bother to keep chasing that rainbow. amy's rival would have to be someone who genuinely hates the bastard and can never be persuaded.
>>554223583>>554223583>>554223583
>>554223418Sonic's the inspiring hero that characters like Tails and Amy look up to. He drives them to improve and become better versions of themselves. He's not the dorky nerd underdog that has to learn to be a hero. He is THE hero, way after finishing his journey off-screen. And there's nothing wrong with that.
>>554223082None of what was said says anything about him being inexperienced with his powers. It reads exactly like someone who at least paid attention to Sonic 2006.
>>554223676Then tell me why BoC Tails was downgraded to being functionally Nicole
>>554222754RoBUTTnic
>>554224076I hate everything american Sonic.Except this. THIS is perfection and I only have respect for aosth.
>>554223418jap sonic only started being a gary stu in heroes/x and beyonda lot of "windfags" here are marketers for sega of japan trying to gaslight everybody
>>554226915>only for 23 yearsLol
