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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8984 - Skye Prower Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary

>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 21 January 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Racing CrossWorlds - 04 March 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 04 March 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 01 April 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>554193241
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Drago!
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>>554223583
qt
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>>554223380
Sonic wins too much. He needs to lose, he needs to feel the sting of defeat, he needs to cry, he needs to know what it's like to have Tails, Knuckles and Amy executed medieval style right in front of him while Sage laughs and condescendingly whispers false assurances at him of how at least he's not them.
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Horrible OP. Archieshit should never be the OP because it's fucking garbage past issue 50. Especially not an abomination like "Skye Prower".
Deviantart-tier OC. Garbage character.
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>>554223725
Fuck is wrong with you, four eyes?
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>>554223752
>Deviantart-tier OC. Garbage character.
But enough about Silver
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I love Rotor! Do you love Rotor?

Everyone around me loves Rotor!
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>>554223583
Cheerfully awaiting the day we get a Kneecaps the Echidna edition. And I'm not joking I love that little nigga.
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People like seeing the all conquering hero do the cool things and save the day. Not everyone has to be the relatable everyman or Izuku Midoriya.
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>>554223752
>Deviantart-tier OC. Garbage character.
Good description of Cream, weird you have art saved of her though
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Douge
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>>>554223610
Blaze exists in a pocket dimension where events distorts the lore so that she doesn't clashes with Amy and doesn't disrupts the status quo somehow.
> I will just hold hands and date Sonic and stay inches away from making out with him, you're ok with it girl?

It doesn't gets acknowledged, AT ALL.

If anything, Surge would exist on the same narrative pocket dimension if she were to take literally the same role.
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>>554223717
This ship is underrated as fuck. Tails becoming the kind of hero a Sonic fan girl could love is kino and cute
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amy's actual rival
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>>554223767
he wouldn't want either of them hugging him
fuck OFF
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>Gallagher Archie
>Fun, whimsy, cartoony.

>Gallagher / Penders Archie
>Same as before but more serious. features sci-fi and mysticism. mix of action, lore and world building (That was the sweet spot)

>Early Penders / Bollers Archie
>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More action focused

>Late Penders / Bollers Archie
>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More drama focused. most archie criticism comes from content made in this era. (slap happens here)

>Flynn Archie
>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More action focused

>Flynn reboot archie
>serious. tries to re tell game lore its own way. very action focused

>Flynn IDW
>Reboot archie without the Sonic SatAM stuff

>Evan IDW
>Steven universe fanfic

>Imada Blade of Courge
>Dark age game (Sonic and his co protagonist)

>Imada Shadow
>Shadow gens with more plot

>90s shogakukan manga
>hellokitty for boys

Ben Hurst Documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTuMgsR38ng
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>>554223836
Silver is also terrible and deserves all of the hate he gets.
Garbage is not an excuse to excuse more garbage.
I hate Silver. He's Nakamura's worst character.
Mephiles and Infinite are both better.
>>554224030
Cream is a female Sonic. She is a windy younger female whom is polite and adventurous. She's a prominent civilian who must balance her modest lifestyle with her delights in adventure. She is a good character. Fuck off.
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>>554224179
>I hate Silver
>Mephiles and Infinite are both better
Finally some good opinions in this place
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>>554224185
Bunnie works better with Sonic and I stand by that.
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>>554224091
You see the vision
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>>554223725
Sonic laughs and quips off high-stress and life-threatening situations and reacts with sadness and empathy to his friends' misfortunes to a minimal level, which makes him look like a sociopath
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Tsundere Surge is popular because her actual plot has no potential
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>>554224116
*rough Bri'ish accent'
Not havin a good day, eih?
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ごめんなさい。
But your words are empty.
I love Silver, I will never not love Silver.
I live with the burning desire to HOPE just ike my hero!
While every waking moment you to bad mouth Silver and devalue you him, I will always be here. The shining LIGHT that will pierce falsehood, and uwufacations.
My HOPE transcends shitposting.
My HOPE is BEYOND your RAGE.
MY HOPE BOUNDS past your mockery.
FREEDOM approaches to shatter through the ceiling of MISERY.
In the night all that you will see is my HOPES BlINDING LIGHT!
You think you know of my Future, but I still control the past!
I I had to choose the world or my HOPES and DREAMS.
I'd choose my HOPES AND DREAMS.
I know in my heart of HEARTS! I can make it a REALITY!
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I still can't believe the dub of SA2 made the jail scene that much better
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>>554224340
>which makes him look like a sociopath
No, it makes him the most mentally healthy in the cast. Freaking out and being emotionally unstable aren't supposed to be the norm, my guy. Don't use yourself as an example. And quit applying realism to Sonic of all things, freak.
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>>554224098
You know, you would think Amy would have played a bigger role in the resolution of Sonic Heroes, being that that game was the big re-introduction of Metal Sonic and was Amy's first time being playable as a Sonic-tier character after skipping SA2.

On the other hand, Knuckles didn't play much a role in SA1 resolution, despite that game being so focused on Knuckles tribe Echidna lore.
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Silver's future wife
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>>554224354
>Tsundere Surge is popular because her actual plot has no potential
Yeah, so let her be funny instead.
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>>554224584
Future lesbian
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I just thought about that Silverboyfag
I wonder what he's doing now
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>>554224584
What happened to Blaze?
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>>554224354
I hate shippings they're low quality trash.
I'd rather the green midget became a clown, a better end than the shippers humiliation ritual.
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What would a rival for Blaze be like?
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>>554224710
>Silverboyfag
What? Do you mean the one commissioning Silver having sex with various men or something else?
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>>554224910
Yeah, one and only
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>>554224896
Depends if it's a Shadow or Knuckles
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>>554224896
Honey
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Cream the Rabbit.
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>>554225021
Or a Metal Sonic, or a Jet
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>>554224185
Bunnie works better with me and I stand by that.
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>>554224896
Do you think Blaze's dimension has humans?
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>>554224896
I don't mean to be that guy really but I'm surprised Adok just hasn't made anything off Rotor's own assorted related stuff, like just something as plain as expand up the herd itself with notable few citizens with Boom walruses, define Tundra as the king, Sherman as Rotor's uncle, Georgette and Skeeter as his mom and brother, make a Joe Sushi sorta character and more like that. Or just do Anti-Rotor, Boomer's relatives, that's good too.

Will he ever make such? Hopefully... Adok, if you're here, please hear me. ;_;
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>>554223708
Cool looking wolf. Too bad Nicole decided to be a dick and remove all 6 of my Drago pics for no reason from my local backup.
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>>554224896
>A red male cat for the Amy
>Black female cat with pink highlights for the Shadow
>pink girl for the Knuckles. Wait a minute...
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>>554223708
Hey Drago anon, what voice do you hear when you are reading/writing Drago?
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>>554225283
It has to since no one batted an eye at Eggman Nega.
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>>554224896
Someone that isn't racist
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>>554225540
Just like Sonic's World is blues and reds. Blaze's World is purples and pinks. The girl world.
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Headcanon.
Eggman used his tech to experience the joysof child birth in future.
Getting nice and pregnant, but when he gave birth he accidentally sent his baby to an alternate dimension creating Eggman Nega.
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>>554224527
You look at Sonic smiling like this and try to tell me he doesn't look like a sociopath
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Here is the truth about Sonic 2.

The Boost formula gives players constant high speed with minimal effort. Sonic 2 does the exact same thing. It is stuffed with dash pads and downward slopes that hand you velocity like candy. The platforming is simple. You are not rewarded for skill.

Sonic 1 requires mastery. You earn your speed through physics. Sally Acorn would respect this. She is a strategic leader who values challenge. But Sonic 2 fans praise their game while attacking boost titles for the same design philosophy. This is hypocrisy. My grandfather did not tolerate hypocrisy when he fought the Soviets in the Wehrmacht. Neither do I.

If you love Sonic 2 but hate Unleashed or Colors; you are not a logical person. The only difference is one uses a button and one uses level geometry. Same result. Same easy speed. Same lack of earned momentum.

Ian Flynn ruined the comics. Pelosi and Obama ruined Biden's legacy. And nostalgia is ruining Sonic discourse. Sonic 2 is the boost game of the classic era. Accept this fact. That is all.
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>>554225449
You didn't need those.
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>>554225832
I think you're just crazy, bro.
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>>554225449
Funny I lost some pics in my Mina folder but they were replaced with images of Nicole.
Is this a sign?
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>>554223843
yeah, there's room for more techies in the franchise

>>554225449
they weren't recoverable? that sucks, Nicole should know better

>>554225557
EN I'm sorta bad with because I tend to struggle to remember them, but they'd have to sound both imposing, slightly suave, but also can flip to pathetic
JP, probably Yuma Uchida
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>>554224354
Tsundere Surge is popular because her actual plot synergizes with her being tsunde.

>Nickname
>"It's not like we're friends or anything"
>"You better live or I'll be mad"
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>>554225842
Sonic CD is a lot closer to being an organic evolution of Sonic 1's concepts and level exploration while fleshing out themes of environmentalism and nature. It was directed by Naoto Ohshima and even featured Princess Sally in the original Sega CD release. Consider that, Fred.
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>>554226148
Whats worse is that not even Sonic is having her shit.
he is like
> I'm going to punch that bitch extra hard
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>>554225540
>A red male cat for the Amy
>shippers and male feminists commit mass suicide as sega introduces a love interest for blaze that she's passionately in love with but who's indifferent to her
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>>554226274
>even featured Princess Sally in the original Sega CD release.
Fucking liar
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>>554223583
Who drew? Pretty cute.
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>>554226274
Sally the pink hedgehog!
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>>554226274
>and even featured Princess Sally in the original Sega CD release
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Reminder you aren't a furry if you are attracted to Amy rose.
She's Kemono Kino, not Furry Faggotry.
You can tell by the fact she isn't an ugly mascot outfit with a bulbous snout.
Furries just look ugly upright dogs needing to be put out of their misery.
Amy is cute and deserves equal rights, truly capable of companionship unlike fur shit.
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>>554226631
ok furry
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>>554225945
Glad to know I'm not alone in this
>>554226063
She specifically deleted image files I had saved as from around December 20th to January 16th. And coincidentally or not the 16th day OS updated. Can't tell if it was Microsoft fucking specifically with me or not.
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I like the idea that Big is Blaze's long lost older brother that somehow ended up in Sonic's dimension, and is the rightful heir to the throne. It's funny.
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>>554226457
mypenisinyrbutt on Twitter
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sadsadasdasdadsa
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>>554226631
No lies detected
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>>554226906
>He abandoned his duties and went to look for his pet frog...
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Isn't it funny that every alternate timeline where Tails does not meet Sonic and isn't dead he goes full Pumped Up Kicks?
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>>554227193
He's a fucking friendless nerd that got bullied for having a deformity, no shit.
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>>554226631
>>554227084
Dumb furnigger tourist cope. Go back.
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>>554224896
THATS SONIC YOU RETARD
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>>554227451
In her own world, dumbass.
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>>554224848
Tsundere Surge is the worst kind of humilation ritual. It is exactly what happened to Misaka
>Electro schizo science experiment girl wants to beat up the hero all the time
>He saves the day and solves her problem
>She falls in love with him and goes from dangerous rival to bashful embarassed tsundere
>She will never confess and he will never figure it out
>Decades pass with no development
>just her blushing and getting embarassed whenever he's around
I don't know why anyone would want this for Surge. It's hell.
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>>554226457
Meoldycler
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We're gonna have a billion different versions of the main characters by the end of the year and they'll all be shit
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>>554224896
I WANT TO LIVE IN JOE'S WORLD
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>>554226148
>Don't go thinkin this means we're friends
Evan watches enough anime to know why you shouldn't write the angry girl saying this to the hero
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>>554227606
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>>554226631
Truth speaker.
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We have
>Movienic who is perpetually stuck between acting like a generic 2000s movie character and acting like gamenic when the stakes are high
>IDW Sonic who WISHES he was archienic but is forced to act like windnic because the fans will actually kill Ian if he deviates again
>Blade of Courage Sonic who is every windfag stereotype rolled into one unstoppable ball
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>>554227714
I've been reading a bunch of 40K so the idea of living in any fictional world horrifies me now.
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>>554227894
Fat fuck...
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>>554228001
Guess which one is the most successful?
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>>554228001
Godnic
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>deminsional traveling and possibly future related
Based Fowler giving Blaze and Silver's appealing aspects to Amy.
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>>554227894
His greed disgusts me
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>>554228141
I can make her worse
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>>554228095
Well 40k is a nightmare universe so I wouldn't really compare the two.
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>>554228246
Anon she's going to corrupt (You)
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Sex with mobian children
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>>554228550
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>>554228731
>wohoo ohh boy it all starts with this, Donald!
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>>554228628
Not if I corrupt me first!!
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>>554228095
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>>554225658
Nice reference. I would like to see Sonic wear his dads jacket at some point
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>>554229071
Non canon and OOC btw
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>>554227498
STILL SONIC YOU GODDAMN MORON
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>>554229146
He grew up anon
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Nega Amy
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How would Sonia interact with Surge
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>>554229292
> I am you but gay
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>>554229292
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>>554228203
Assuming that fraud leaker knows anything, are we really surprised here? They gave Silver's cataclysmic enemy—Iblis to Knux's backstory, and now Amy's coming from a future or alt Earth however they're phrasing it where Eggman won. We're going to get FNAF 2 movie levels of split in the fandom in terms of lore accuracy and I'm all here for it. Silver fans are big mad right now.

Honestly, I'm hoping more for alt Earth that way Eggman that died in 3 stays dead and redeemed while this one can be full-on Carrey evil.
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>>554229517
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>>554229736
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>>554228203
>robot + time travel = terminator
>sonic being kyle reese wouldn't make sense at this point
>fuck it, make amy kyle reese
>who's silver?
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>>554229637
>They gave Silver's cataclysmic enemy—Iblis to Knux's backstory
Don't forget the Flames of Disaster, so Blaze is completely fucked.
These are the only fuckers who matter
>Sonic
>Tails
>Knuckles
>Shadow
>Amy
>Eggman
Nobody else except Rouge and Cream maybe.
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>>554229950
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>Muh stealing Silver's Time travel!!!
Sonic CD's bad future is far older than Shitver. Fuck off. This abortion of a character should have no holding on concepts older than itself
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>>554229172
>STILL SONIC YOU GODDAMN MORON
Sonic isn't her Knuckles or her Shadow. Neither is he her Jet or Metal. Get the picture?
>>554229468
Antoine?
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>>554229985
>I came across time for you, Sonic. I love you. I always have.
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>>554230082
As it should be
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>>554229468
amy's so watered-down now, no one would notice a distinction
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>>554230156
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>>554230168
I hope one day the movies do this
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>>554229479
Surge would try Sonia because she's like the worst aspects of IDW Sonic and they would fight. Sonia is supposed to be STRONGER than Sonic so she would completely flatten Surge
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>>554230329
Even Shadow is too much. It should just be Sonic and Eggman with Tails staring at his tablet. Unleashed and Colors got this right, why can't the movies?
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>>554230168
Knuckles thinks he's on the team
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>>554230373
> I am So-Nicky, So-Nicky the Hedgehog
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>>554230373
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>>554230196
Don't forget this. Time travel was baked into the character since forever.
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>>554230492
No
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>>554230168
>tails and knuckles
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>>554230196
okay but you could skip all that generators bs and just go for the stones
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>>554230492
>It should just be Sonic and Eggman with Tails staring at his tablet.
Go be gay somewhere the fuck else.
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>>554230425
How does Sonia being stronger than Sonic work when Sonic can now lift up a giant demon
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>>554230912
Fuck the cuck bubbles, heroes was lame as fuck for that
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>>554230775
Doesn't this kinda imply that Tails will one day be as cool as Sonic? Both started out as bullied nerds.
>>554231013
She's like Knuckles. Knuckles can destroy Surge so Sonia can too.
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>>554230336
Why
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>>554231079
LETTUCE NO THE SILVERFAGS ARENT GOING TO BE NORMAL ABOUT THIS
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>>554224896
https://x.com/LivDrawz/status/1896586747338985572
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>>554230492
because paramount wants these movies to actually make money
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>>554231187
>Doesn't this kinda imply that Tails will one day be as cool as Sonic?
When he turns 9, yes. Sadly time doesn't move forward in this universe.
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>>554231079
tranny-coded art, the ai model is much better than this shit.
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>>554231380
>When he turns 9
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>>554230775
True, Sonic created himself by saving Paulie.
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>>554230404
it'll be sonic, shadow and amy as one final kick in the balls for silver
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I love Shadria god darn
I love Shadow
I want to understand Shadow
I want to protect Shadow
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We don't care krack fuck off
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>>554231740
It's also why Secret Rings and Black Knight don't have an alternative version of Sonic, Since their version of Paulie presumably died in an military excise before he could "accidently" meet Brenda"
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>>554231892
Who's we
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If Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 were merged into one story, and various plot threads were just merged together, then the result is basically 06. Shadow is Mephiles, Chaos is Iblis. Just as Mephiles' goal is to unleash Iblis, Shadow's goal would be to fuel Chaos.

This means that Sonic & Tails rescuing Amy on the Egg Carrier and the ARK aligns with each other. Which means... if you apply the SA2 cutscene context with the context of SA1... 6 Chaos Emeralds within Chaos, Tails has the real 7th Chaos Emerald, Sonic with the fake is sent to his death... Tails ends up fighting Chaos 6.
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>>554231892
are you going to have this same meltdown every day?
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>>554232093
no one will ever be convinced 06 is an adventure game except people who hate the adventure games
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>>554223963
Izuku "Deku" Midoriya is TAILS.

Sonic is ALL MIGHT.

It shouldn't be this hard to balance the two in this way. Use Tails to be the relatable one that undergoes stress and character growth, while Sonic remains an absolute embodiment of hype moments and aura as the ideal we all strive towards.
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>>554232093
So it's Super Sonic and Shadow fighting Perfect Chaos in space?
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>Queen Allena
The Violet Wind
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>>554232398
Yeah!
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>>554232303
>Izuku "Deku" Midoriya is TAILS.
They've rushed straight to the manga ending cuck arc huh?
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>>554232398
If you wanted to be real spicy, You could have Amy's role in SA2, partly replaced with Tikal, Complete with her giving Shadow the pep talk instead of Amy.
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>>554232724
Basically
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>>554232846
I can vibe with that.
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>>554232724
>They've rushed straight to the manga ending cuck arc huh?
??? The manga ending is Deku becoming the world's greatest hero, being given the suit to replace One For All so he can remain a hero, instantly rise up to #4 in the ranking as soon as he returns to hero work, and then gets with Ochaco in the very end once he starts thinking about being more than just a hero.

Contextually, though... Deku defeating All For One = Tails vs Eggman in Speed Highway, more or less.
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>>554232853
Now all they need is for everyone to ghost Tails for 10 years while they build him a suit that lets him use his SA1 abilities again.
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>>554228001
What about Classicnic and Sonic&Friendsnic?
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Krack is completely correct about Shadria
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>>554232846
That moment should stay Amy's, even though Tikal and Chaos directly mirror Maria and Chaos anyway.

Amy should remind Shadow of Maria's true wish just as Sonic is the one that tells Tikal that simply sealing Chaos in the Master Emerald again won't fix anything.
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The Sonic 4 Movie doesn't have the bulls to do pic related.
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>>554232852
What would the Western version of this be?
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the fake leakes have already ignited melties on Kekkit and twatter
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>>554232987
>The manga ending is Deku becoming the world's greatest hero, being given the suit to replace One For All so he can remain a hero
So what was the point of being a teacher and the 7 year timeskip? Just for laughs?
>then gets with Ochaco in the very end once he starts thinking about being more than just a hero
Didn't even kiss her.
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>They ruined Starline
>Why?
>Because he is no longer an Eggman simp for me to relate to
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>>554233036
tails forgetting to fly away from chaos is not defensible
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>>554233275
>So what was the point of being a teacher and the 7 year timeskip? Just for laughs?
The ending of that chapter is Deku displaying that he still has the drive to be a hero, so All Might and Bakugo give him the suit that allows him to get back in the game.

The point was that even without a quirk, he can still be a hero.
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>>554233245
swap silver with metal sonic
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>>554233127
I think removing Tikal's role from Adventure 2 made it a lot less... "Adventure-y" if anything.

Tikal gives Sonic the Ancient light giving him the first chaos powers, "Lightspeed attack" and "Lightspeed dash", she should have played a role in introducing him to "Chaos Control"
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>>554233354
You just hate Sonic' games!
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>The singular & entire purpose of Shadow's creation was to cure Maria
>It fails
>Watches her final moments alive
>Gets reunited with Maria via time-shenanigans
>It's only temporary
>Shadow's immortality means they are now forever apart, never to be together again not even in Death
>Shadow will live beyond the Heat Death of the Universe without her
HOLY FUCK DOES HE REALLY JUST EXIST TO SUFFER?
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>>554232291
You don't have to hate the style of gameplay to see the obvious similarities. 06 was obviously supposed to be a return to form, with the "form" being SA1.
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>>554233454
Technology got so good this small chip can power up that huge robot
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>>554233647
The longer you live, the less you care about people. He will eventually stop caring about Maria in the far away future.
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>>554233462
>The ending of that chapter is Deku displaying that he still has the drive to be a hero
And executed poorly.
>The point was that even without a quirk, he can still be a hero.
Which is why he sat on his ass for 7 years, right? He couldn't do it on his own? He still needed others to hold his hand.
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i wonder what's the backup plan if jim doesn't feel like doing the movies anymore.
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>>554233647
>Shadow will live beyond the Heat Death of the Universe without her
Shadow only functionally immortal, He can still be killed. I mean he did almost die at the end of Adventure 2 and only survived due to blind luck otherwise know as retconning
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>>554233245
Cream number 1
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>>554233647
Shadaria is Dark Sonamy. Maria is Shadow's Amy, just as Amy is Sonic's Maria. Think of what that means. Think of what the Dark part actually means.
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>>554227894
What are your thoughts on Japan embracing the Chili dog as Sonic's favorite food?
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>>554234113
How the fuck is Amy Sonic's Maria? there is nothing tragic about her that ties Sonic's character.

Sonic doesn't have a Maria, closest is Tails if fucker was dead or ill.
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>>554233112
why do we hate her again?
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If Krack says something about Shadow, I automatically consider it true. I trust her wholeheartedly with Shadow's character. Every attempt by this place to shit on her reputation backfired in my eyes.
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Here comes the samefagging.
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>>554234262
I hate women
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>>554224091
>Mina settling for less with Sonic's wimpy sidekick
>"he's the next best thing..."
I agree
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>>554233865
Somehow it's still better executed than anything involving Tails in the last 20 years
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>>554234113
Krack, please for the love of us all, take some pills because you're now hallucinating crap that isn't there.
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Shadow’s boy pussy
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>>554234382
Shadow's butt
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>>554234195
fucking dogshit westshitter nonsense poisoning sonic's true characterization
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>>554234223
>How the fuck is Amy Sonic's Maria? there is nothing tragic about her that ties Sonic's character.
You're missing the point.

The tragedy is that Shadow lost his "Amy".

Sonic & Amy are Shadow & Maria wiithout the tragedy. Shadow & Maria is Sonic & Amy WITH the tragedy.
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>>554234223
>How the fuck is Amy Sonic's Maria? there is nothing tragic about her that ties Sonic's character.
That's the point. There's no tragedy with Sonamy because it isn't Dark. Get it? Shadaria is Dark Sonamy BECAUSE of the tragedy.
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>>554234379
That's not me though.
It's not always me if Shadria is posted. Not always me when Shadow is posted. Not always me that uses my filenames.
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>>554234610
Dammit you explained it better than me.
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>>554234767
Then tell your copycat to take a bath, for they are stinking this place with their delusions.
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>>554234113
>>554234610
Maria is Shadow's Madonna. Amy is Sonic's Madonna.
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>>554234610
>>554234679
nta
that's not how things work.
shadria is a tragic love story. that ends with Shadow promising to avenge her death by destroying the world and then changing course to protecting the world using any means
adding "dark" does not make it the same. Sonic wouldn't do any of these things. (he might go after the specific murderer if he knew about him)
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>Rouge
>Honey
>Cream
>Bunnie
>Sage
>Mina
>Sonic
>Barby
>Zooey
>Vanilla
>Blaze
>Morain
>Li Moon
>Belle
>Sara
>Sticks
>Ariem
>Cosmo
>Nicole
>Maddie
>Wave
>Fiona
>Carrotia
>Perci
>Marine
>Alicia (Anti-Sally)
>Tangle
>Sara
>Maria
>Rosemary
>Sally
>Various human women
All fox'd. How does he do it?
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>>554234874
I always saw it that way, with Tails instead of Amy.
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>>554233859
>The longer you live, the less you care about people. He will eventually stop caring about Maria in the far away future.
The Freedom Fighters have a higher chance of appearing in a mainline Sonic title (because one day Penders will bite it, and SEGA can reassert legal right over the IPs to exploit for fandom demand) than does Shadow forgetting about her.

>>554233974
>Shadow only functionally immortal, He can still be killed. I mean he did almost die at the end of Adventure 2 and only survived due to blind luck otherwise know as retconning
What/who's going to kill him though? Omega? Maybe Shadow will just Chaos Control himself into the center of the Sun in the very far future rather than live in nothingness.
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It's time for a fourth S-named hedgehog to be introduced and give birth to SSSS.
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Maria is not Shadow's Amy, Maria is Maria. Stop trying to pretend everything Shadow does is as a foil to Sonic. Sometimes their differences are just differences with no bigger meaning in the narrative, you foolish fool.
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>>554235001 (Me)
shadria is made to be tragic. the tragedy is part of Shadow's character. sonamy is not made to be tragic. it's made to not conclude at all but that's a different topic. Sonic wouldn't do the same like Shadow if one of his friends die. he would bent his frustrations using other means
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A vast majority of /sthg/ issues are offten involved with shippers and shipper autism.
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>>554230606
>>554230373
>>554230156
>>554229950
>>554229736
>>554229517
>>554229292
I love this take
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Post reboot had the best Sonamy dynamic. Ironic that it came from Ian Flynn.
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>>554235227
Maria is Sonic. Shadow is Amy.
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>>554235076
>Maria 'Tails' Prower
hmmm
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>>554235001
>>554235241
Shadow is "Dark Sonic", so Shadow is the embodiment of 'what if Sonic fell to darkness'. We may know that Sonic himself never would, but Shadow is the embodiment of that "what if".

Shadow is the tragedy that Sonic would never experience, or break from.
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Is she wearing a bodysuit over her boob heart?
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>>554233454
Does this imply that Metal Sonic went backwards? He never used Neo Metal/Metal Madness again, unless you count IDW.

Also, does this imply that the chip in Neo Metal shrinks when he becomes Metal Madness, given that it's a transformation?
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>>554235406
You spin me right round, baby, right round
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>>554235274
plenty of women and lonely autists around here
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>>554235001
>that ends with Shadow promising to avenge her death by destroying the world
How do people her always forget that Gerald altered Shadows memory's after going mad and that's why Shadow wanted to destroy the world. Without the brainwashing, Shadow properly would have just shot the dudes responsible and pissed off to hide in the woods for the rest of his life.
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>>554235358
Sonic and Amy are meant to be funny together, people who turn her unrequited love into a tragedy kinda miss the whole point of it.
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>>554235076
Viewing Maria as a sibling, and thus equating her to "Tails" ... just feels wrong.

Tails is not Maria.
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>>554235567
I am a lonely autist. The women here make me want to be sexist.
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>>554235602
Movie Shadow got brainwashing-lite. Just a simple redirection by Gerald.
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>>554235602
I know all this. I dismiss it because it adds nothing.
He thought Maria wanted revenge, then he remembered that she actually wanted something else.
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>>554235602
I'm sure Shadow would still interact with the world given that his promise was to give the people a chance to be happy.
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>>554235470
>Shadow is the tragedy that Sonic would never experience, or break from.
His dark reflection.
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>>554235637
But sure as fucking hell Amy is not "Maria" either

>>554235820
Point is, losing Tails could probably break Sonic, if he ever went through it.
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>>554235724
understandable
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>>554235949
>Point is, losing Tails could probably break Sonic, if he ever went through it.
And losing Amy wouldn't?
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>>554235949
I dunno, Forces Sonic didn't seem all that worried about Tails at all despite him going AWOL
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>>554235637
Maria is a sibling
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you people have no idea how bad things could be. sonic has still been getting games between 2020 and now.

all fallout is getting is shit content updates
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>>554232852
No Rouge? Really?

>>554227894
BUT WHERE DOES IT ALL GO?
>>554234195
>What are your thoughts on Japan embracing the Chili dog as Sonic's favorite food?
I like it. Chilli Dogs are sufficiently exotic to the Japanese to preserve IP novelty in their market.
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Shadow and Maria are not siblings under any context get your fucking retarded westshitter headcanons out of here faggot
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>All of Sonic's friends are Maria
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fight fight fight fight
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>>554236041
Not as much
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>>554235949
>Point is, losing Tails could probably break Sonic, if he ever went through it.
>"fuck, now I gotta repair the tornado myself again"
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>>554236041
Less than Tails lol.

I mean, he would be shaken with Amy, but Tails is fucking Tails, he is and I would argue against any lorefag or characterfag, that Tails is with no doubts the character Sonic consistently loves the most out of any other.
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Shadow is like the lightning
Maria is like the thunder
They intertwined.
Like brother and Sister!
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these grapes are firm but not too firm... the slighty toughness makes them a satisfying snack...
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>>554236190
Calling them a romantic item is even more ridiculous
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They can just be friends
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>>554235637
>>554236084
Does it really matter. Japanese media is degenerate anyway and it's very possible that Maria is intended to be both a Sister figure and a lost love to Shadow. I mean they love that shit.
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>>554236084
Her character isn't "Shadow's sister", her character is "the girl Shadow loved".

>>554236260
The closest equivalent moment is Elise in '06. When she "died", Sonic practically broke down as much as we'd ever see from him. He actually fell to his knees. It took Silver telling him a way to change this, and Sonic instantly took it, and went back in time to change Elise's fate.

The absolute closest Sonic got to Shadow's position, only to be pulled back from the abyss by the literal "Light Sonic". And the "Maria" in question is a girl Sonic's trying to save, just like Amy.
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>>554236470
Squeeze him harder Maria!
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>>554236267
>Tails is fucking Tails,
that's the problem
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>the average ameritard thinks this is sibling behavior
kill yourself
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>>554236563
If he broke down at all from fucking Elise, losing Tails or Amy would absolutely destroy him
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>>554236697
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The tragic connection between Shadow and Maria is deliberately left ambiguous to serve the story’s emotional weight—she is a cherished person he failed to protect. However, interpretations suggesting a romantic relationship face understandable resistance, primarily for four reasons:

Age and Maturity: Shadow was only weeks old during their time together, while Maria was a child. Framing this as romantic is inconsistent with their presented dynamic.

Species Difference: Much like the discomfort some feel toward Sonic and Elise, a cross-species romantic pairing can disrupt the tone and audience connection.

Maria’s Role: Maria functions less as a fully realized character and more as a narrative device—her purpose is to motivate Shadow’s arc, not to develop a mutual relationship.

Localization Choices: The idea that Sega of America “censored” a romantic subtext is a misconception. As the localizer, Sega of America has editorial authority—similar to renaming “Whip” to “Chip” or localizing “Miles Prower” as “Tails.” These are standard adaptation decisions, not evidence of suppressed intent.

In short, their relationship is crafted as a profound, tragic loss—not a romance obscured by localization.

So, to those still weaving romantic ribbons around Shadow and Maria: your ship isn’t sailing—it’s orbiting the Ark as a celestial plot device. Sometimes a tragedy is just a tragedy, not a love story waiting for an editor’s red pen to set it free.
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>>554236742
Sonic losing Tails wouldn't be all gloomy and broken like Shadow, but he could turn as paranoid as Silver.
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>>554236563
>Shiruba is Sonikku's guardian angel
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>>554235478
I wonder if there was a debate over whether or not Rouge should have her chest plate over the Catwoman costume and this is the sloppy compromise.
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>>554236623
If I was ever put in charge of the Sonic series, The first thing I would do is smash that dumb as shit tablet that Tails is always carrying. Second thing would be to open up more to corporate product placement. Maybe these games would get decent funding if Sonic drank a can of Pepsi instead of Chaos Cola
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>>554236563
>>554236742
Silver and Elise out here trying to make themselves as important as possible to Sonic in a single game over everyone else
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>Sado~ I love you... Like a Brother...
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>>554236903
Silver's paranoid? I never got that impression from him. Idealistic and naive yes, but paranoid?
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>>554236623
sonic trusts knuckles and amy to stay lucid in a crisis before he trusts tails lol
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To be clear: my previous response did not label Shadow and Maria's bond as "sibling behavior." I described it as a profound, tragic connection rooted in protection and loss—a narrative device. The central argument was that imposing a romantic lens onto it is inconsistent with the story's construction and context, not that it must fit a familial template.

That said, the point about platonic intensity is well-illustrated in other stories. Take Samwise and Frodo: their bond is one of ultimate loyalty and love, expressed through embraces and profound sacrifice. Yet that love is never romantic; it is a testament to a deeper, purer form of devotion. Similarly, one can acknowledge the depth of Shadow's connection to Maria without forcing it into a romantic—or even a sibling—mold. Sometimes narrative love is simply love, full stop, and its power lies in its refusal to be categorized.

So, to the anon who sees only two options: perhaps the real cope is believing every deep connection must fit a familiar box. Some bonds break molds altogether.
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>>554237205
sa2 is right fucking there man
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>>554237205
after a decade of this, i'm not surprised
"won't slow him down" kiss my ass
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What if when Tails became the Hero of Station Square and everyone was cheering him on... THIS is when Perfect Chaos attacks?

And then what if Tails, Amy and Knuckles all directly contribute to the Perfect Chaos fight along with Super Sonic?
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>>554237205
Well Tails did throw a tantrum over Sonic cooperating with Eggman in Lost World as well as shitting and pissing himself in Forces so can you really blame Sonic for not trusting Tails to steady his nerves?
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>>554236875
>Localization Choices: The idea that Sega of America “censored” a romantic subtext is a misconception

Didn't the English version of Sonic X cut that scene off of Shadow and Maria holding hands in episode 50?
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If Shadow was human, the intended relationship would be more obvious. A 15 year old looking autistic alien emo boy and a 12 year old sick white girl trying to fix him.
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>>554237380
Tails is luggage
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>Shadariaanon is talking again

>>554237441
That was 4kids, to be fair, they censored anything regarding death.
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>>554237441
4kids isn't sega of america you fucking retard
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>>554237380
You posted two examples of Sonic assuming Tails was incompetent and making decisions for him. This is OOC
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>>554236941
>>554225557(me)
I like to think he sounds like K-ho (Alan D Marriott) from Legend of the Dragon,(terrible show) kek
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>>554235637
>Viewing Maria as a sibling, and thus equating her to "Tails" ... just feels wrong.
>Tails is not Maria.
>>554236558
>Does it really matter. Japanese media is degenerate anyway and it's very possible that Maria is intended to be both a Sister figure and a lost love to Shadow. I mean they love that shit.
Maria to Shadow is his:
Teacher
Sister
Mother
Idol
Best Friend
Love
Everything

The only relationship that comes close to theirs in the Sonic universe, and I'm being completely serious here, is Knuckles and the Master Emerald.
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Meta era Tails is OOC, nobody should need this explained to them
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>>554237380
>>554237369
unleashed was probably the meta era reboot. or colors. idk
frontiers was another softreboot according to picrel
they ditched Tails' shounen moment behind
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>>554237598
Nah, bro just noticed Tails was regressing.
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>>554237369
25 years ago
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>>554237445
At that point you might as well read/watch Please Save My Earth.
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>>554237767
>Maria to Shadow is his:
>Teacher
>Sister
>Mother
>Idol
>Best Friend
>Love
>Everything
Well at least you get it compared with the other moron in this thread.
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>>554237445
Brother and sister coded.
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>>554237767
His Padme.
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Tails is Sonic's housewife
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>>554237445
>Sonic should be like its inspiration
Go fuck yourself. Open a thread in /a/ if you're so obsessed with that crap.
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>>554237310
I have a simple rule: I consider it romance when I see signs of attraction between two characters, not affection, not care, not concern, attraction.
It happens in the Sonic games but it's so fucking rare, what I see between Shadow and Maria is Love but not romantic attraction, it lacks that tension of "exploring the limits" characters often do mutually, it has no tension it's just pure love, for me romance, when not fufilled, when in an ongoing arc, is presented through tension. at least by the way I see it.
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>>554237769
>>554237779
SA1/2 Tails was OOC.
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>>554237769
>Meta Era Tails is OOC, nobody should need this explained to them
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>>554238104
No faggot. He wasn’t made a sniveling coward until Unleashed
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>>554238104(me)
Also, OOC isn't a bad thing if it is in service to a good story. But it's also characterization that is not to be expected to be utilized often.
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>>554238104
Unironically yeah.
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>Sonic content made after 2005
into the trash
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>>554238051
>Shadow if Maria angered him

>>554238094
What little we see of Maria is that she is a "pure soul" with childlike wonder of the world. She is not a real person, much less a love interest.
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>>554238104
>the games that gave him the most narrative purpose are OOC
How do you retards function in life?
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>>554231079
It's occurred to me that Uwuver is actually several characters, all of whom are in some way antithetical to Silver and better left in other characters
>Bubbly energetic girly girl=Amy
>Round eyed childish excitable happy boy=Ray
>Shy polite "cinnamon roll"(the parts of Trunks Silver ISN'T supposed to have)=Skye Prower
>Timid and clumsy inexperienced rising new hero that's "trying their best"=Trip
>Anxiety riddled relatable mostly normal person among Sonic's friends(Evan's Silver)=Barry
>Deku(Ian's Silver)=Tails and/or Gadget
>Cowardly person with "surprise" cool moments=Antoine
These are all impressions people have of Silver in IDW. IDW has made him actually being in character surprising to people.
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>>554238169
Secret Rings predates Unleashed. Ali Baba is a reflection of how ST felt Tails would react in that situation.
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>>554238346
>Sonic content made after 1995
into the furnace
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>>554238289
“scared of lighting” comedic gag is not comparable
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Yuji Naka was prepping Tails into a Gohan
The moment he stepped out and all that went down the toilet and shamelessly turned him into a sissy wimp

>Tails after Naka left
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>>554238471
>>Round eyed childish excitable happy boy=Ray
Pretend he had a personality before, you pussy.
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>>554238289
>>554238104
What is wrong with you people!?

Tails being scared AT ALL is not a problem. Tails being brave in the Adventure games does not mean that any time he ever displays a hint of fear is suddenly a characterization issue, either.

Courage, bravery, is not a lack of fear. It's overcoming fear. Tails' arc, since within Sonic 2 itself, is overcoming fear and becoming braver.

Ali Baba's introduction mirroring Tails' introduction, or Tails being scared of lightning in the OVA, does not undermine all of Tails' accomplishments.

The Meta era only ever showcasing Tails be afraid WITHOUT showing him overcoming his fear, is the real problem.
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>>554238374
Yes, note>>554238284
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>>554238360
>That day, if our positions were switched... Would our fates be different? Would I have your life, and you mine?
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>>554238482
And it’s still OOC. ST changes personnel all the time, they aren’t immune from writing OOC
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Tails fucking sucks
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Tails after Yuji Naka left and took the shounen with him

you now get sissy gay hellokitty for boys
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Tails was never a good character and he was always a leach.
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>>554238625
People in /sthg/ don't know what the word "courage" means, news at eleven. They never saw Courage the Cowardly Dog as kids.
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>>554238616
>>554238952
You know what, I think you're right.
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>>554238625
>The Meta era only ever showcasing Tails be afraid WITHOUT showing him overcoming his fear, is the real problem.
because sonic team pussied out and made him unplayable
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I'm tired of the Shadria pedophile spam
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>>554238805
Cream mogs him easy.
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>>554238671
Sorry, no. SA1/2 were the first speaking roles and established his entire arc as a character. They are the foundation, betraying that (which the meta era did) is OOC
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>>554239185
Now draw them fused as a chimera.
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>>554239070
And the moment he IS playable again, all this "coward" nonsense instantly disappears.

If you're gonna call Tails a coward, and say any act of bravery is OOC, then Classic Tails' entire existence is OOC by that logic. Sonic 2's own prologue is OOC by that logic. That's basically saying that the very foundation of the character is OOC.

Tails is supposed to be Player 1.5 / Player 2. Remove that status from him on even a narrative level, and you kill the character. It's as simple as that.
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>>554238507
>1995 is when no-Eggman normal bg humans started to show up in Sonic media.

hmmmm....
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I still remember in the 4kids version of Sonic X that they made Shadow refer Molly as a "good kid", even though there were obvious signs that there were something going on between them, with Molly mainly developing a crush on him.

4kids is part of the reason why Westerners can't comprehend Shadria
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>>554239374
Lazar and Snively?
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>>554237748
I just listened to a couple of his voice clips, he's not bad and has what I envision to be somewhat of what his more pathetic cadence would be
I think the best way I'd describe his voice in my head is stereotypical asshole jock, the way he postures and acts when he's humbled/backed into a corner reminds me of that
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>>554238625
>The Meta era only ever showcasing Tails be afraid WITHOUT showing him overcoming his fear, is the real problem.

Anons understand this but it then comes down to two sides that will never agree:
>Sonic Team knows the character but is incompetent at writing Tails overcoming his fears, therefore it is merely bad writing but still in character
>Sonic Team does NOT know the character as proven by their bad writing, therefore it is NOT in-character
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>>554239226
Tucker...
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>>554239223
>Sonic started in 1998.

lol, ST should split Classic and Modern Sonic into different seperate continuities.
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>>554239185
>Maria VA literally described Shadow as like her dog
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>>554239374
>>1995 is when no-Eggman normal bg humans started to show up in Sonic media.
4,015 days later
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>>554239508
LMAO
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>>554239478
Here’s the thing with the first point: if the execution is bad then it doesn’t matter what the intent was, the result is OOC
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If Maria was a hedgehog, the comparison from her and Shadow to Amy and Sonic would be more obvious.
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>>554239429
>Falling in love with some random just because she resembles Maria
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>>554239478
Tails' characterization depends on being a "Player" character, and that's all it is.

Unleashed making him an NPC is what killed him. Colors, Generations, Lost World, Forces, they buried him further and further, by never letting him be Player 2 despite the entire Meta Era suffering from a constant attempt to add more content to the games themselves. Instead of the Werehog, or the Wisps, or Classic Sonic, or the Avatar, we could have just had Tails. And none of this would've happened.
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>>554239705
So is 06 Silver OOC?
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>>554239757
It's complicated, but he definitely had a soft spot for her and he did say at the end of the ep that she's not like Maria.
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>>554239757
>Falling in love with some random just because she resembles Maria
Just like Maekawa wanted.
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>>554239554
Modern started in 1998. But what I said is true. The classic era did not have character arcs or dialogue, how can you *truly* establish a character with that? They have little quirks and animations to go off of, and the Adventure games were consistent with what it had to work with. There was no actual shift for Tails (and many other characters) until Unleashed/the meta era, making it OOC
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>>554239429
Using 4Kids’ edits as evidence for romance is like using a bricked-up window to prove there’s a great view. Their job was to sand down all the edges—not hide a ship that was never in the water.
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>>554239775
>Tails' characterization depends on being a "Player" character, and that's all it is. Unleashed making him an NPC is what killed him. Colors, Generations, Lost World, Forces, they buried him further and further, by never letting him be Player 2 despite the entire Meta Era suffering from a constant attempt to add more content to the games themselves. Instead of the Werehog, or the Wisps, or Classic Sonic, or the Avatar, we could have just had Tails. And none of this would've happened.
I think the drastic difference in his characterization between Forces and Dream Team really proves your point.
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>>554239717
Much like how Sonic is an recantation of an dead test pilot after his soul merged with Chaos energy, Tania is actually an reborn Maria.
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>>554239947
06 Silver doesn’t apply since that was his intro. I was referring to writing an established character
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>>554240052
>The classic era did not have character arcs
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>>554239775
>Instead of the Werehog, or the Wisps, or Classic Sonic, or the Avatar, we could have just had Tails.
what if I don't want to play as Tails
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>>554239757
this was super popular in the mid 2000s
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I've noticed there's always at least one person here whenever the topic of characterization comes up that always jumps to the conclusion of
>maybe x character was always bad
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>>554240265
Knuckles is the exception, what arc did Tails have in classic?
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>>554239775
>>554240120
>Tails' characterization depends on being a "Player" character, and that's all it is.
I disagree with this. It is not impossible to do something like AosTH or the OVA compared to Sonic X. If a cartoon can do it, it sure as hell can be done in a 3D animated cutscene that is under direct supervision of Sonic Team
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>>554240298
then the game would be left half-finished because you'd have to
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>>554240397
That’s just someone who hates x character trying to push their agenda
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>>554240354
True, and we also stopped doing 'amnesia plots', love at fight sight a la Disney and 'evil twins.' Some tropes age out for a reason.
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>>554240459
Well they sure as hell didn’t do that for Tails in the meta era
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>>554240265
One YouTuber had Triple Trouble as the story Knuckles becomes Sonic's nigga placing it in-between Sonic's Story and Knuckles' in Sonic 3K.
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>>554240714
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>>554236563
Sonic definitely felt a lot of sympathy for Elise and became despaired that she died like that.even though he spent most of his story saving her and keeping her safe. People may not think much of it, but it was when Sonic felt that he truly failed.
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>>554240870
Explain
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>Scenario
Sonic enters the public domain tomorrow
what happens next?
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>>554240919
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>>554240759
Well obviously, because if they did, the only complaint would be that Tails still wasn't playable
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>>554241101
Horror movie
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>>554240120
Exactly.

My personal way of thinking about it is by breaking every character down to two fundamental sides. An example is... The original "Mickey Mouse" is Donald + Goofy. And I'd say that Sonic himself has evolved variants of those two sides, where the "Donald" side is this rebellious punk rocker and the "Goofy" side is an enlightened fool of divine wisdom and simplicity.

For Tails, it's like... If Sonic is Donald + Goofy, that's Ed and Eddy, where Tails is Edd, "Double D". That is one very obvious and important aspect of Tails, and it's visible in Deku as well. Very kind, nice, polite, a bit anxious or awkward, but hyper-analytical and intelligent an stuff, that sort of thing. But the OTHER half of this formula is the polar opposite. Basically, like ... "Numbuh Four" from Codename: Kids Next Door. A young kid, wearing orange with yellow hair, who is defined ENTIRELY by bravery and combat expertise despite his small size and age. The kind of kid that'd be a one kid army from pure fighting spirit alone. The kind of kid who'd basically be a literal "Kid Sonic".

That's the side of Deku that destroys his own body every time he punches out his opponents without a second thought. The side of Deku that trains constantly, pushes his body to the brink, before he could even GET One For All. Without that side, all you have is a cowardly nerd who has NO athletic ability whatsoever, let alone the will to even be NEAR the action.

Of course, I'm using cartoon examples that only really make sense to me, but that's beside the point. Tails has two defining sides: the anxious nerdy side with intellect to rival Eggman, and the brave fighter that directly follows and imitates Sonic.

The critical mistake made is when that second side is forgotten. Like with Blaze in 06. The raging hotheaded fireball is gone, leaving only the stoic disciplined princess, which removes all the CONTEXT for the stoic discipline masking that raging inferno, killing the character.
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>>554241101
Porn.
>"But there's already..."
Even more porn.
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>>554240291
Placing Lanolin in the Ewe-phonia for her crimes during the Cleansweepstakes arc.
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>>554240459
>disagree with this. It is not impossible to do something like AosTH or the OVA compared to Sonic X.
Tails in the OVA and AoStH is a "Player Character". Tails in X is an NPC. Understand what I mean?

Tails is written in the OVA and AoStH like how he's displayed in Sonic 2. He is treated like a "Player" with an active role. Even if it's not literally a game, this is how he is handled, and that's how he SHOULD be handled.
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I GOT YOUR PICTURE IM COMING WITH YOU
DEAR MARIA COUNT ME IN
THERES A STORY AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS BOTTLE AND IM THE PEN

MAKE IT COUNT WHEN IM THE ONE THATS SELLING YOU OUT

CAUSE IT FEELS LIKE STEALING HEARTS CALLING YOUR NAME FROM THE CROWD
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>>554241142
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>>554239438
True, but that's the American canon. Honestly Japan was pretty wishy-washy too with regards to what populates Sonic's World..
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>>554240609
> Sonic gets Amnesia and isekaie'd to the Sol Dimension
> get's solved by Blaze looking at him for four seconds
> this was the entire issue

I wonder what the flying fuck was the point of that story.
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ALL HAIL NIGGADOW!
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>>554240609
more like tropes were beaten to death
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>>554241576
You said "Sonic media"
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It's Niggerdow
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>>554241549
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>>554240291
Now that I think of it it's weird that the last time we saw her and Jewel was exactly when the whole mystery emerald thief stuff began. Neither her or Jewel even get mentioned during the Mimic fight nor do they appear on the cameras when you'd think said mystery man would want to keep tabs on the restoration's rebirth. It's almost like...
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>>554239438
Also Nate Morgan, was originally a SatAM character. Except he was some tall guy instead of a midget.
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>>554241678
ooc dogshit
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>>554238346
>the Wind. The Wind
Kys windtard
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Do SonicxSurge fans know who Surge is
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>>554241767
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>>554241004
In the Yugioh Arc V, the main protagonist is a time traveler who gets sent back into the past to save his ruined future. Which is no different from Silver. However, he comes across an girl who's essentially his love interest(If you're a fan of OG Yugioh, this is basically Yugi and Tea).
At the end of the series, it's revealed that his love interest was...actually his mother all this time, so he immediately abandons her after completing his mission, so she can eventually marry his father. Thus leading the protagonist being born.
>Okay so what does this mean for Amy
There's a pretty likely chance that Sonic WILL be Amy's father or a descendant, given she's from the future and how the Fowler + Sega don't want Sonic to actually date Amy.
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>>554241792
It's almost like... you're making shit up to try and predict something exciting the comic might do and then disappoint yourself when it's predictable boring slop
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>>554241619
Apparently Sega wanted Sonic to regain his memory pronto. I theorize that they did that because they were going to use an amnesia plot for Sonic Frontiers before that was ultimately scrapped.
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>>554239478
>Sonic Team knows the character but is incompetent at writing Tails overcoming his fears, therefore it is merely bad writing but still in character

I don't think it's bad writing or incompetence, I think it's just a matter of Tails having an arc is not important to have happen in every story, but it is important for Sonic to save Tails to show off that Sonic helps people/his friends. Unfortunately, Tails gets that role of dude in distress because he is popular.
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>>554238346
>this means we should make sonic an unstoppable god who rapes everything to death with no tension or something
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>>554241792
It's going to be Starline
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>>554241967
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>>554235032
>All fox'd. How does he do it.
He doesn't. Self inserter tailsfag.
>Rouge
She just teases him, tricking for information
>Honey
Teasing for fashion for others, otherwise beats him up and that's it
>Cream
Friends
>Bunnie
Big Sister to him, only loves Antoine
>Mina
In an AU 30 years from then.
>Sonic
Only sees him as a brother.
>Barby
She prefers two inch platypus dong over 1 inch micro fox dick
>Zooey
Maybe.
>Vanilla
Fucks with vector
>Blaze
Friend, and she likes hedgehogs
>Morain
Was more impressed with Knuckles strength that exposed Tails the liar and she knew tails was the eternal sidekick in the end.
>Li Moon
Maybe, but they barely know eachother
>Belle
Friends
>Sticks
Only loves herself
>Ariem
Only loves Knuckles cock
>Cosmo
Yes, but is in question since it may have all been love potions by Amy meant for Sonic.
>Maddie
Mom
>Wave
Rivals
>Fiona
She cucked Tails hard multiple times for Sonic and Scourge
>Carrotia
Enemies
>Perci
Strong maybe
>Marine
Friends
>Alicia (Anti-Sally)
Enemies
>Tangle
Friends
>Sara
She's riding knuckles' dick. She even smooched knuckles directly before multiple times. She also likes Sonic more than Tails.
>Maria
Nope only with Shadow. Also dead and she doesn't know him.
>Rosemary
His Mother, you reaching faggot.
>Sally
Another big sister/aunt
>Various human women
Humans and toddlers in sonic x thinking tails is "fluffy" or a stuffed animal isn't romance or a sex invitation.

You get around 3 and they aren't even canon
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Shadow is a house nigga
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>>554241792
Nothing interesting is going to happen in the comic. Give it up.
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>>554239221
You know what? The more I think about it, the more I agree. Her first introduction to Sonic shows her being a lot more courageous than Tails when he first met him. She got captured, was put in a scary situation, but still pushes forward because she just wants her mom back. You could even imagine that she tried to face Eggman head-on by herself before Sonic came in for the rescue.
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>>554242147
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>>554236227
>There was an undergage orgy in the sewers. An ORGY!
>That's rough, buddy.
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>>554242109
Tails doesn’t need an arc every time, but you can’t betray his establishing arc, which having him be a damsel does do. Have Sonic save rando civilians or the New Character of the Week if you must, and have Tails stay in his role as sidekick/player 2 helping Sonic, not needing Sonic’s help for himself
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>>554242175
Shadow is a lab animal
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>>554242175
damn, Maria kept a nigga as a pet?
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>>554242137
It's Kit and someone else.
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Kissing my boy wife Silver
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>>554242417
On an unrelated note, How would Sonic and co handle Pennywise?
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>>554242323
Meanwhile Tails just gets captured again and the moment he's rescued, goes back to being glued to Sonic's ass again.
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>>554242174
Zooey is not a maybe
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>>554242094
So why did he keep that in if it was going to be rejected
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Shadow The Hedgehog but The Plague Dogs
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Cream the Rabbit but it's Watership Down
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>>554229985
>Via:@DanielRPK
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>>554242451
I think Modern Tails had the same problem Knuckles had, in that he is repeating his introduction from the classic games so he can get into a story. It's just how ST defaulted to introducing characters to a given story.

>Knuckles gets convinced by Eggman to challenge Sonic(Sonic 3)
>Tails needs to be rescued by two bullies(Sonic 2) or crashes his plane (SA1)
>Amy hugs "Sonic" from behind(SA2)

These were all probable done for nostalgia but maybe it will change with ST now considering canon.
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>>554242625
Mephiles/Infinite/Shadow/Sonic...
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>>554241967
Oh i thought Maria was gonna go take a shit
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>>554230302
>30 year-old tiktok sonadow bean flickers have a byler meltdown
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>>554243003
people were already coming up with this theory when they saw metal sonic doing the crouch pose in the post credits, they didn't need some faggot leaker
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>>554243112
Mi heroe
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>>554243179
I don't know why you think Byler meltdown would be a good thing. It was funny for 2 minutes but these retards are still seething and making it impossible to discuss the show anywhere
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>>554240986
I prefer the bottom.
Top is fine but very basic, Bottom is a bit funnier to think about more, it's Sonic's plane yet Tails made it into a freaking mech simply because he could.
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>>554243112
How have no one here realised that's a reference to Daikatana's marketing. I mean how many secondary's are in this place. I'm not even over 30 and even I got it.
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>>554243247
Because that stop people regurgitating from that nigger during the Zelda movie wait or any capeshit movie
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>>554243179
She looks like she fucks white human heroes.
>>554243352
It's a trash show, anyway. Completely tainted the early seasons. Won't go back to again. And Stobin was a better idea than having Robin gay just for Will's benefits.
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>>554243414
Because nobody cares about the Gas Station hack that jobbed to Gameboy nips developers.
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>>554243378
The thought of Sonic owning a plane at all was always weird. Why would he? He runs everywhere
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>>554243352
seeing sonic fans have a meltdown is always funny. people made careers out of it.
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>>554243414
Because Naka did make you his bitch.
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>Fujos lose all ability to reason because straight characters are actually straight
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>>554243668
water traffic
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>>554243668
Can't swim.
Perhaps running across boadies of water to large risks him falling in at some point.
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>>554243723
Cause not, Cause I never bothered to buy pic related.
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>>554243883
Movienic mogs
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>>554243414
Would you say Naka is the John Romero of Japanese games? Which is his Diakatana, Rodeo or Balan?
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>>554243179
I can't wait for that to happen. They're going to look like picrel
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>>554226313
TARDmybros...
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>>554244106
... The cock sucking contest.
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>>554244238
Good one
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>>554229292
Why is Sonic so slutty here
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You guys, a byler meltdown can only happen if the canon iterations are confirmed straight. Nobody cares if movienic fucks shadow.
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>>554244119
>Would you say Naka is the John Romero of Japanese games
No cause that's insulting to Romeo. Even if the guy has made some bad games post ID, he didn't dig as big as a hole as Naka did post Sega.
say if i'm wrong, who would be Sonic's teams John Carmack?
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>>554243668
My take is that Sonic likes speed even if he's not the one personally generating it.
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>>554244450
Sonic is a slut
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Who would be better at blowjobs, Rouge or Sally? I need to know.
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>>554244545
that thing is sentient
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>>554244545
Fang movie debut when?
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>>554243668
A lot of Classic Sonic lore involves mystical isolated islands, so Sonic having a plane to fly to these places makes sense. It starts making less sense later on when we see him running around in realistic cities meant to resemble real life locations. One thing I like about Superstars is that is brings the Classic mythology back with the Northstar Islands having weird effects on the Chaos Emeralds. Shame about the rest of the game though.
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>>554244609
Sally
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>>554244362
Thanks.
*dry humps you*
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>>554244609
Rouge would be better at techinque, Sally would try to make cum in the fastest way possible.
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>>554244609
Depends if you think a prostitute or true slut would be better. Rouge does it to get what she wants, Sally does it for the love of the game
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>>554243779
They're hypocrites who get all mad and possessive when you portray an LGBT character straight but they themselves like to portray straight characters as gay. I can't wait for all these disgusting Sonadow fujos to shut up and get lost when movie 4 comes out
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>>554244541
>say if i'm wrong, who would be Sonic's teams John Carmack?
Yasuhara
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>>554244609
Sally can the whole shaft and your balls ib her mouth all at once.
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>>554244665
>amy was friends with a sentient machine
more shit cream stole
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>>554244743
Get off me fag
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>>554244665
What do you think happened to Breeze?
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>>554243668
Why would Sonic care about practicality? Flying is fun.
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>>554244812
>>554244893
>>554244773
Enthusiasm =/= Being good at it. Mileage =/= Skill. Trust me
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>>554245163
He thinks running is the most fun thing possible
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Sonic puts wieners in his mouth
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>>554244847
>>554244541
Naka= codemonkey who could pretty much do anything= Carmack(but less successful)
Yasuhara= designer who made everything people remember the series for=Romero(but more successful)
Who is the ID analogue for Oshima?
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Do we like Classic Sonic = Kid Sonic or nah
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>>554244665
because its this thing here.
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Silver and Knuckles put juicy orbs in their mouths
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>>554245198
That doesn’t answer the question
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Rouge is a bat. Bats are good at sucking. Sally is a chipmunk. Chipmunk cheeks can stretch and squeeze.
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Amy and Tails are the most nothing character.
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>>554245446
I like Classic Sonic being a Dimensional counterpart. I think a lot of fans want a Kid Sonic for Modern, but they don't want Classic Sonic to be that Kid Sonic.
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>>554245559
You’re the most nothing poster
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>>554245441
Sandy Petersen
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>>554245441
>Oshima
Tom Hall maybe? Wasn't he the one who did all the backstory for Commander Keen, Wolfenstein 3d and Doom?
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>>554245446
I like classic Sonic being "teenager in the past" rather than actually being Sonic's physical appearance as a child
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>>554245219
Fucking is the most fun thing possible but you never do it explain that
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>>554245441
>Naka= codemonkey who could pretty much do anything= Carmack(but less successful)
cope >>554243112
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>>554245539
The answer is whichever would pay more attention to their partner's reactions during
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>>554245807
People are gross, I’d rather fuck Rouge in my mind
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>>554245446
Honestly, Don't mind it. I feel the reason a lot of fans hate it because it implies a 4 year gap between 3 and knuckles and Adventure 1. That and more retcons.
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>>554246039
people hate it because sonic was introduced as a teenager in the first place
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>>554244609
>Who would be better at blowjobs, Rouge or Sally? I need to know.
Sally. Not only does her whore ass have far more experience, her expandable chipmunk cheeks can take both nuts along with the shaft at once with room for the nut load to spare too.
Also gives me an excuse to post this:
https://static1.e621.net/data/d6/72/d6724bacd096abfdfdb8f7eed80f7ece.png
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>>554244457
Nah, movies are very popular, they'll care a lot of them came here because of them.
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>>554246095
Classic: 15
Modern: 15 1/2
who gives a fuck
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>>554246250
Ew I don’t want a blow job now
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>>554246008
Rouge is generally more observant, but Sally would likely care more about the person behind the penis
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>>554245445
Cool name.
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>>554243179
>introducing a female character just to sabotage a yaoi ship
this is... advanced misogyny
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>>554245446
I prefer him as a younger Sonic, mostly because I don't like him as alternate Sonic. I think having alt universe sonics is pretty lame unless you go full pulp scifi with different personality sonics, like Archie did.

And I do have some attachment to the idea of having this timeline of Sonic's life from his youth to now. It's like seeing Goku grow up
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>>554245782
Honestly, reading a little, Tom Hall sounds more like the Yasuhara.

Maybe Oshima is the Adrian Carmack? idk

>>554245962
Naka is Carmack with Romero's personality. lol
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>>554246095
>people hate it because sonic was introduced as a teenager in the first place
While true, Sonic on the Japanese side, never felt that old and you could easily say he was 11 or 13 without much issue, at least for me. Western Sonic on the other hand is a out and out teenager and saying he's actually 11 would break that version of the character.
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>>554246786
good. west sonic was an abomination in the first place.
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>>554246786
JP Sonic was originally 18 ("but it's kinda hard to tell") in his original profile.
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>>554246786
Classic Sonic being 13-14 is the most fitting age
Modern Sonic would be 18
So he goes from young teen to young adult
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>>554245593(me)
I feel like a lot of fans don't see Modern Sonic (and the modern cast) as a teenager, but rather as a 20 somethings.

>>554246520
I don't like Classic being younger because it diminishes his and the classic cast's accomplishments. It just makes everything in the classic era a prelude that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things as far as Modern is concerned.
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>>554247004
The classic games take place in the future.
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>>554245417
We can tell
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>>554247186
fat franchise
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>>554247259
uuuuu
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>>554247324
shut
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Romance is gay
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>>554247406
ᵤᵤᵤᵤᵤ
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>>554247484
how come the married man with a kid made a character that is free and unshackled and never "settles"? was he trying to tell us something?
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>>554247484
chubby cheek azn
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>>554247004
JP Sonic's age is damn right inconsistent
>So Sonic's 18
>Oh wait, now he's 16
>Oh Now he's 11 but he's possessed or swaps with his 16 year old self but has the same build
>And then he 15 and all the prior stuff was non cannon
>>554247129
>I don't like Classic being younger because it diminishes his and the classic cast's accomplishments. It just makes everything in the classic era a prelude that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things
That's kind of a mean way of looking at things. I mean was pre Z Dragon Ball just a prelude? Was Pre Shippuden Naruto just a prelude? They were proper shows that are still valid in their outright, which is the same with Sonic.
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kys yujitard kys kys kys
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>>554236981
Man, even though I'm not that big into turn based RPG's I honestly really click with the vibe of this whole project and honestly hate how the only way I can see any sort of update is to lurk 4chan threads. Pray it's at a state where he can show it off at SAGE or something.
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>>554247484
That's rich coming from Yuji Naka, who is married and has children
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>>554247484
Based romance is overrated and attracts the worst people.
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>>554247782
Classic Amy is cute af here, damn.
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>>554247685
>[
I genuinely think Yuji Naka hates his wife
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>>554247835
Sonic X-treme would have never been good regardless nor save the Sega Saturn.
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>>554247979
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>>554247782
>was pre Z Dragon Ball just a prelude
Even if they are wrong, for lots of people (including Toei) yes. And a lot of Sonic fans seem to feel the same way about Classic Sonic>>554240052

So I say, cut it off and make it its own thing and give the Modern fans a proper prologue they can actually appreciate.
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Friends > Romance
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KILL SHITVER KILL SHITVER KILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVERKILL SHITVER KILL SHITVER
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>>554247982
>I genuinely think Yuji Naka hates his wife
Wouldn't be a true Baby Boomer if he didn't
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>>554247835
Sonic is not hellokitty
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>>554248268
ok
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>>554235986
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>>554247982
So Sonic is Yuji Naka's self-insert?
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>>554248160
>So I say, cut it off and make it its own thing and give the Modern fans a proper prologue they can actually appreciate.
What could that possibly be? Sonic 4?
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>>554223583
skye prower is ugly, glad this cope au got nuked
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>>554248249
But what if I find an anon that wants to be my Striking Viper
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>>554248465
I mean it, Blazebro...
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>>554248490
Sonic is his character with various contributions and alt versions from other people
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>>554248489
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>>554248268
bruh silver is facing an existential death. his fags were betting on the movies to save him and now there's nothing they could do with him that wouldn't look redundant
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>>554248678
is this a euphemism for dick?
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>>554248441
>"Sonikku izu furanchaisu foru kidzu of aru agesu. Gyaruzu raiku Hero Kitti!"
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>>554248086
The cutest!
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What's the consensus on the manga around here?
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>>554247989
We know, Balan Blunderland proves that. :)
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>>554248160
>So I say, cut it off and make it its own thing
I'm fine with Classic Sonic being a sub franchise, But I don't see why chopping them from cannon really helps anyone. Besides, prologue aside everyone here knows that Adventure One was a soft reboot
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>>554248563
ST could make a pre SA1 origin game, or remake the Classic games into 1 big Modern open zone game that more directly leads into SA1.

Frontiers was basically structured like the Classic games(i.e Sonic travels through three islands gathering the Chaos Emeralds and meeting his friends in release order of the Classic games). Framework is there.
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>>554248647
How fucking dare you he’s adorable
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>>554248807
>silver is facing an existential death
good
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>>554249047
Sonic would get expelled from school lmao
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>>554249047
>What's the consensus on the manga around here?
Which one? Their's been like 13
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>>554249047
mediocre for any other franchise, a miracle for sonic. fuckass franchise has us in a civil war over how the main character is supposed to be written.
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>>554249047
Is fun sonic story with sonic ic.
All I ever wanted.
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They like each other
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>>554248946
Naka fears the Hello Kitty
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If they don't want to make Tails a playable character, at the VERY least they could make him an iconic and lovable shopkeeper who sells upgrades for Sonic's shoes, Shadow's weapons and whatever future devices Silver has. You can even make him have gag intros/opening while also showing off old stuff like the Sea Fox.

Imagine Shadow calling for resupplies or upgrades in some underwater base and Tails bust through with the Sea Fox. Or Sonic being so cocky and sure of how reliable Tails is that he stands directly in front of the Tornado as he's landing and doesn't move and comes within a centimeter from his nose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZhbg5nrBNE
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>>554249326
The new one by the Shadow Manga guy
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>>554249654
Isn't that what the Storybook games kinda did with Tails?
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>>554249623
Sonic is already cuteis he dumb?
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>>554249654
Wasn't Tails playable in all of the most recent Sonic releases (sans ShadGens)?
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*headpats your OC*
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>>554249765
Yea but with actual soul and dialogue instead of just a stand-in.

>>554249846
If we're talking about modern games, you have Frontiers and then before that uh..........oh my fucking god.....06.
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>>554249654
>Tails doing gag shit while SSS takes over
No
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>>554249436
surge sucked dick as a rival, so you want her to be a dicksucker full-time
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>>554249392
bro likes xshit 2 lol
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oh cool its kitposting time again
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>>554249047
Sonic in BOC is literally how I have seen and headcanonned him my entire life. It felt truly validating to see him lift up the demon's fist and kick it around.
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>>554249654
Having Tails physically help is all they need to do. Have him carry someone vertically out of a cave or over a large gap. Hell, have him catch someone like the Heroes intro
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>>554250142
No one asked Randomfox.
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Marry and reproduce with mobians.
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>>554250190
I'm not randomfox :(
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>the forces we should have got
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Having Tails follow Sonic around in-game again would be pretty cool.
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>>554249623(me)
And then, 10 to 20 years after the redesign to make Sonic cooler...
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Besides chili dog, what other foods should they have Sonic eat?
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>>554250351
This has such a 2000s look to it. I wish it was real since it would be better than anything we've gotten in 15 years
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>>554249970
Nah, replace him doing cool and goofy shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_0qRCKshow and it'd be kino and it would satisfy Sonic Team's autism with making Sonic just the bestest at everything and no one can even come close to him.
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>>554250351
Chroniclesannon's game looks like this unironically (affectionate)
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>>554249960
Tails was playable in the Olympic games and those are Modern.
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>>554250149
tails immediately forgetting he can fly when not playable is in-character
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>>554250516
Didn't manga sonic like Pizza?
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>>554250673
I'm talking about mainline/canon 3D games.
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>>554250516
Rotisserie flicky
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>>554250546
it would be just as shit as anything we've gotten in 15 years, just more buggy and less saturated
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Tails should act more like how he did in OVA. I like how he felt smart and childish, only sa1 really had that, sa2 he's in a much more stressful situation so I get why some of that was lost, but Tails sadly fell very far into technobabble super genius who reprograms ur mom with tooth picks an acorns.
I think tails needs to be shown making more inventions that only serve the purpose of being fun for him to use, and perhaps making small mistakes on his inventions due to him being excited and rushing through it.
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>>554250858
oh lord wtf is that lmao
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>>554250351
From the box art alone this is three thousand times better than 06
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>>554250351
Eggman looks like he was pulled from Tri-gun.
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>>554250640
Considering the vibe of Sonic Chronicles that fits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARy1oZ1wfhs
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>>554250912
Tomii pepe's halloween art from years ago.
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>>554250858
Is that fucking Kit.exe?
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>>554251001
Surprisingly little Topaz porn, to the point I'm surprised to remember there's any at all.
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>>554250896
There needs to be less focus on his inventions in general and more on his physical abilities
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>>554250149
The Tails Saves should permanently replace the lives system in Sonic.
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>>554250351
>T rated Sonic game
What Shadow the Hedgehog could have been...
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>>554250896
>Tails sadly fell very far into technobabble super genius who reprograms your mom with tooth picks and acorns.
You're right about him getting too technobabble in SA2 but I feel he didn't truly cross into it until Colors
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>>554248678
Anon Striking Vipers is my fetish I have been commissioning content for years.
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>>554251130
She really should be cannon, Ideally as team Dark's girl in the chair.
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Amy soon will be this Lanolin in the movie
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>>554251221
Stinky characters
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>>554250851
I love mascot Amy alot
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What if sonic used a rocket wisp on his penis during sex haha
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>>554251479
IDWvirgins be seething over Fionachad
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>>554251479
I don't know why this artists loves Fiona but I'm happy they do.
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>>554251479
why is tails the only male character in these images
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>>554251552
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2039612
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>>554251205
I second this if they’re going to keep only Sonic as playable
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>>554251330
I legit thought Topaz was who T was referring to in Gerald's diary in Shadow Gens because I was thinking them revealing anything about the at the time mysterious pink/purple haired lady was a lost cause.
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I hope the next 3 games are just as terrible as the last 3 were just so we can officially call this the decade of Japanese Sonic humiliation because Hollywood is the only thing keeping this franchise from fucking dying.
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>>554251715
>are you kidding me?
my favorite millennial punchline
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>>554251130
The real shame is the lack of Lindsey Thorndyke pron
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>>554251332
Someone who will violently assault anyone who dares to sexualize her precious blue hedgehog?
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>>554250351
we're in the worst timeline
Silver The Hedgehog, save us
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>>554251130
Only like 10 people remember her. And 8 of them are yuriniggers
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>>554249228
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I am the greatest character of all time. Go ahead and praise me.
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>>554251724
Now you know that means turning Tails into Beat from Megaman right? I mean, i think it would be cool and maybe get Tails out of his tech support role, but now he's an item.
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>>554250351
That there is no Silver in this already means it would be a great game
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They lied to us
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>>554251814
Hell the fact that she's a celeb makes it really easy to make scenarios for it too

Need more Shara porn too
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>>554250351
>Sonic the Hedgehog is back in a new, re-imagined world. Forget what you know.

>Doctor Robotnik has seized control of most major cities and governments across the world. Sonic, having been almost killed in the last attempt to thwart Robotnik before the rise of his empire, is seeking all the help he can get, from anyone he can. Knuckles, remaining on Angel Island holding the Master Emerald from the grasp of evil. Shadow, attempting to forget the past, takes up arms with G.U.N., the head of what small resistance is left. Espio, seeking some kind of purpose to go on. And Metal Sonic, still trying to fulfill his purpose, yet, no more is he an agent of the Doctor. Is there any hope for the world? No more playing around, it's time to save the world or die trying.

We'd never be ready for this kind of game. Not even Sonic Team.
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>>554234113
>>554234610
kill yourself, you are braindead retarded
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>>554252162
So does Silver but people love him
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>>554252236
So if Sonic Team doesn't listen to the west and doesn't listen to Japan, who do they listen to?
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>>554250351
The aesthetic of 2000s videogames will never be recaptured ever again because it was specifically going for "We're not your STUPID BABY BROTHER'S VIDEOGAME" tones and modern games will not sacrifice the broad appeal they have finally achieved. You are looking at a relic. A fossil. Something that will never come back.

2000s games used the horror grunge aesthetic even if the title wasn't horror.
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>>554252186
No Tails and Amy either, lol. And the summary implies that Vector and Charmy might be dead.
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>>554252180
I mean he could still be present and active in cutscenes like in Colors
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>>554251992
Bro you can't fool me, that's a Resident Evil character.
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>>554252478
The hat man
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>>554252478
me
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>>554252478
the voice of sonic in their heads
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What would you do with this?
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>>554252659
>Dreaming of beautiful colorful supernovas in a galaxy far far away, swallowing up entire planets, some possibly with intelligent life.
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>>554252841
Put it on the top of the dresser and occasionally say "hey Sonic" while I'm changing.
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>>554252841
Give it to someone that would better appreciate and take care of it than I could
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>>554252726
I TOOK TOO MANY BENADRYL
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>>554252341
you realize that if you create peak then it's all downhill from there?
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>>554251048
>Sonic vs. Eggman final boss battle
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If Shadow did training with G.U.N. in Shad05 then why isn't he a agent in 06?
Were they never intending for him to work with G.U.N. and it was just to test Shadow's capability on a mission if they ever highered him as a 3rd party entity? So Shadow knows all of G.U.N.s protocols but can also disregard those rules if necessary?
Is Shadow in this Context just Samus then not working for the federation but also working with constantly?
Should Shadow become a bounty hunter?
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>>554228203
Fowler could go all the way with movie Amy and make her everything Silver should have been in Sonic 06 but wasn't.

>cloned from Shadow while he was in captivity in the hopes of creating an incorruptible protector of Earth
>calm, cool and collected, never gets overly emotional and every step taken by them is methodical
>If Sonic is the wind, they are the snow, pure and driven but still will become devastating if not attended properly.
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>>554251814
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Is Shadow gay?
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>>554253223
Andy Griffith did Romeo and Juliet way better. Sorry, anon. Try again next year.
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Isn't it curious that Blaze hates raccoons and tanukis yet has Marine hang around her?
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>>554253239
>>calm, cool and collected, never gets overly emotional and every step taken by them is methodical
fuck that. movie amy is an attempt at cloning maria
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>Now if Silver ever actually appears in the movies he'll just look like a rehash of Amy.
He can never win.
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>>554253450
imagine how popular marine would be if rush adventure made her playable and shitaze didn't need to hog the spotlight
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I don't care about the movies...
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>>554253654
You should, they’re keeping the games alive
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>>554253568
They go the Terminator route and Sonic and Amy have sex in a motel which later leads to Silver being born.

I'm not joking, they Kyle fucked Sarah while the robot was still hunting for her and that's how John came to be.
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>>554253568
IT'S NO USE!
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>>554253654
Same
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>>554253568
>make him helpful
>rehash of amy
>make him hostile
>rehash of shadow
lol he's fucked
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>>554230082
>Make a dumb reference
>It's totally the real Iblis guys
Touch grass
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>>554253568
How is Nakamura reacting to his son getting completely cucked by Hoshino's daughter in the movies?
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Make Silver Sonic's lover.
I fixed him.
>but what about Amy?
Knuckles lover. BOOM. Fixed TWO characters for the price of one.
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>Shadow is an agent working with gun for a single game
>Ian: HE SERVES GUN LIKE A LOYAL LAPDOG AND WOULD ENDANGER WORLDS FOR THEM AND HE LIVES IN GUN HQ WITH ROUGE AND OMEGA IN A POLYAMOROUS FAMILYCULE
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The movie should make Silver a total schizo who may or may not be suicidal
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>>554253935
This anon gets it
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Amy is gonna take you back to the past
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>>554254263
to suck some blue hedgehog ass
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>>554254134
And time proved Ian right, because working for the government makes more sense than being a homeless batman with no money
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>>554254351
The latter makes perfect sense. Are you nuts? Why would he be a slave dog to the organization that made his life hell, he's just using them
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>>554253935
That means Tails gets Blaze
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>>554250296
bunny mommy
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>>554254518
??? No.
Tails gets Jet dumbass.
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Silver and Blaze aren't going to appear in the manga either.
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>>554250296
>>554254536
i cannot believe archie had them sharing a bedroom
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>>554254424
1. It's been 50 years
2. What will he do when he needs to repair his inhibitor rings or rocker shoes? His very existence is expensive and makes him depend on others
3. It's cooler
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>>554252167
I like you even if you are a stinky fox
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>movie Amy comes from an alternate future and world
How are Sonic fans this illiterate to think this means she's replacing Silver? That phrasing means she comes from another dimension's future. Silver's whole thing is that he comes from Sonic's future.

You'll see. The Sonic games had 2 dimensions thanks to Forces/Mania treating Classic and Modern as separate dimensions and you'll see the movies do the same thing.
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>>554254606
Nah Tails is racist towards birds, it’s his most consistent trait
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If Shadow works for GUN why did he decide to raid a GUN base to steal a rocket ship in Sonic x Shadow Generations Dark Beginnings?
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>>554254354
Its cute how it kinda makes it looks like she has freckles. Even if it's a meme costume, the guys know what they are doing.
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Evan Stanley is more incompetent than Ian Flynn.
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>>554254762
I'd prefer bounty hunter Shadow, cooler, off the grid, GUN can still ask for assistance from him.
More fitting job for Shadow and gives him freedom.
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>>554254843
>You'll see. The Sonic games had 2 dimensions thanks to Forces/Mania treating Classic and Modern as separate dimensions
Wasn't that decanonized with the explanation being
>oh well uh time is a sort of dimension
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>>554254895
Abraham said he would have helped him for free if Shadow just asked. Shadow just did it for the fun
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>>554254742
do you have the panel in hand?
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>>554254863
That just makes it hotter
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>>554255034
>decanonized
External bullshit. There is still no game which contradicts Tails saying that Santiago is from another dimension. Until Forces is remade to retcon that line, Sonic games have 2 dimensions.
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>>554254762
You know those were made by Gerald and the only person able to repair them is Eggman. It just makes more sense if his a bounty hunter that sometiems do some oddjjobs for eggman than he be a lapdog to the people who killed Maria.
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>>554254354
that little fang...
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All male hedgehogs are tramps
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>>554255238
>Only egg man can
>I just love making shit up
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>>554254779
i hope he finishes this film in my lifetime
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>>554254895
A lot of stuff in DB doesn’t make sense
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>>554250640
Did Sally break his fingers or something
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>>554255235
Then the modern games take place in the Mania dimension
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>>554255676
Sally is a cryptid that can't be caught on camera
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>>554255506
>GUN suddenly being able to understand it
Yeah, sure. It that was true they would never had any problem with Eggman.
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>>554254401
human ‘iona
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>>554255890
Why wouldn't they? They have Gerald's blue prints
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https://youtu.be/ICE8ZPfIrck
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>>554256319
Probably because they aren't able to replicate it without Gerald.Also they deemed project shadow unsafe so i doubt they actually took the information from Gerald about it, they just asked him to make weapons for them.
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Do you think Shadow had sex with the gun agents?
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>>554257305
The rank shadow gets when fucking Sonic.
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Marine, I love her
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>>554257781
human man...
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>>554257197
Probably
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I use ai to torture my favorite sonic characters
3 human men drug him and rape him in an alleyway then they upload the vid to the internet
He is injured during battle and paralyzed from the waist down or the neck down
He is sold as a starving weak broken sex object on the black market
He is injected with aphrodisiac that makes him rape people
His dna is used to create a baby in a secret lab then the baby is left on his doorstep
He is captured by humans who make a a real dog knot his tight ass
He has all of his nails pulled out one by
one and his tongue is cut off
He loses an entire leg so he can no longer function correctly
He is rendered deaf and blind at the same time and can't communicate
He is blasted with a gender bend ray and needs to deal with periods
He is left chained up until he pisses all over from holding it for so long
A voice forces him to admit to his deepest secrets in front of everyone
I need more distressing ways to torture him. Mindbreak mobians
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........
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>>554258392
i just use ai to have sex in the bathtub
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>>554245445
Lol this is awful, the artist is brute forcing dynamic pose while not keeping things in place, like shadow's left quill
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>>554246418
Also a huge copyright/trademark violation
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>>554257305
I know it's my autism telling me this but I swear it's like Shadow was about to do a hi-five, realized who he was about to do it with and then changed his intention mid-movement.
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>>554258392
Have a chain around their neck attached to a wall and give him no food. Except that their favorite food is right in front of them, just an inch away from their grasp

That or just be a crazed fan and reenact Misery by Stephen King
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>>554243912
it's not like Square is doing great themselves
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>>554246876
Trvkky pow
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>>554247926
He's a chaddy? Damn
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Sonic having his back to the camera in the victory screens in shth always read to me as "This is not my game :D!"
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>>554260386
I like how the people who makes these shitty images gets butthurt if you dare to criticize Frontiers.
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>>554249958
Careful now.
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>>554260686
It wasn't perfect but it was a hell of an improvement over Forces. I had fun with it desu.
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>>554249750
>Maria_seeing_my_pingas_dot_jaypeg
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>>554260198
I remember a long time ago discussing if Anti-Sally would be good at cooking and me and 2 other anons agreed that it should be a universal constant that all versions of Sally are horrible at cooking.
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>>554262336
Chauvel never finished that Shard vs Metal animation did she?
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>>554262336
heh, I like it.
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>>554262701
Not that I can remember. It's nostalgic thinking back on those times.
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>>554262930
and the vice-versa pic just for anyone's collection.
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>>554263202
She's a grown woman whose into anime and /ss/ porn so I guess I can forgive her.

Also she has HUGE tits.
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>>554263416
OOC

>>554263530
>Into /ss/ AND has huge tits
She's the most based female drawfag we've had in that case. Got any pics to confirm the latter.
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It's fucking crazy that this general has been around for 12 years. This has got to be one of the oldest video game generals on this website.
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>>554264210
The Ride never ends™!
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>>554264418
There was a time where I did expect Bump and Sage to eventually appear in the background of IDW at one point. So much has happened since Issue 1 that I don't even want them to appear in the comic because it'd invite more tourists here.

>Yes, I am an oldfag yelling at clouds.
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>>554264671
Lord have mercy, not really into interracial but would without thought.
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>>554264665
It's not likely to ever happen, but if it did I could die a happy guy.


>>554264671
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
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>>554264671
This must be her too.
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>>554265290
depends, where'd you get this?
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>>554266115
Here, I think. Long while back.
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>>554266342
Maybe? I guess, I dunno, I try not lurk here. I'm only doing it now because of that chronicles guy
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>>554266342
Damn, 18/19 were the 2 years where I didn't come here even once.
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>>554266743
(You) did well to stay away, but why come back?
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>>554266342
I can't tell if this is her shoulder or her thigh
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>>554267267
Pretty sure it was leg.
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>>554267235
I just wanted to see how this place was reacting to the news about the movie when they redid Sonic's design.
And then I found myself wrapped up in autism I never expected to. And now honestly I'm just too invested in this place to leave it. I was here since literal thread #1. I want to say that I was here until the very last thread. Also Sage is the only OC I've ever had.
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>>554267382
but that would mean...oh my
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>>554267665
Based.


>>554267724
Indeed.
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>>554268102
That's some dedication to the cause
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>>554252414
And Shadow, but we can deflect all day. At least they're in games and are still relevant sometimes. No one cares about this ugly, canonically dead tails oc. If there was a mini shadow or silver running around I'd also call them weird looking.



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