The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>554064094>Narja (NEW) Character PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjVsoW4BafI>Roadmap Streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4>Dev notes 01/13https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11778007>[Chaos Zero Nightmare] Galactic News Network: LIVEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZGrP9nBvwo>Useful Links and Resourceshttps://rentry.org/xtb66f3ihttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant>Current Featured Banner[ Narja ] Instinct - ControllerRate Up Period: 01/14/2026 – 02/04/2026>Upcoming Featured BannersNine | Starts Feb4Tiphera | Starts Feb25>Current/Upcoming EventsNew Content – Spiral Tower of Screams (Beta)>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?Check the Rentryhttps://czn-calc.vercel.app/https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculatorhttps://czn-save-cal.web.app/
>>554192824
>>554195279>>554195398cute earsfloppa
>>554195398>>554193847
>>554195279what's with the ears, what kind of creature is this?
is she even worth getting bwos?kinda want to use Luke so im thinking about getting his e2
>>554195594I think she's whatever Veronica is.
>monsters gain fortitude every 2 roundsBIG PASS.
>>554195594i think rabbit?
>>554196008Your Sereniel? She doesn't need two rounds.
>>554196185not when it's the fucking the foretold ruin miniboss that turns after you hit him 6 fucking times and it doesn't reset and he gets fucking shield each time and he fucking deals a fuckton of damage and it pisses me off because it cost me two runs now i am NEVER going to play with that fortitude shit
>>554196008>>554196185Yeah, I used to hate this debuff, but honestly encounters only really last 2 turns now, if that. Maybe 3 turns if you have a really bad draw (I don't have e2 Sereniel)
Are the new Trauma Codes any good?
I need to plap Narja
>>554197259I liked themNarja was cute but mostly just the story from the event but from a different point of viewLuke was fine
>>554196008skill issue
>>554197259Narja is very cute
What are the go-to epiphanies and copy targets for a general Narja deck?
I'll save czn
>>554197382Anon that's a 2 year old
>>554197597what do you want narja to do thobasic attack buff? defense dmg buff? dmg narja?
>>554197259they're not only no good but they're so boring because the enemies are all lvl 25. thank goodness each one only takes like 20 minutes to fully clear.
>>554197669Bump your shitty general
>>554197972meanwhile this seanig still plays another smileslop game
>>554197862that's just retarded bro, do you enjoy anything?
Partners need to get their own homescreen and having both the combatant and the partner should unlock a duo homescreen.
>>554198474we also need dorms where we can grope them
>>554198474Shinobu should suck my cock.
>>554198474This>>554198527and thisbut also make the story as miserable as possible with the only way out being Kanchou using his timeloop powers to get the best ending
Amir's full potential unlocked40K damage on turn 1
>>554198474>weapons need their own homescreenbased retard
>>554198358i'm retarded because it's boring?>nah man i tried watching paint dry it was pretty uninteresting>wow wtf you're retarded dO yOu EnJoY aNyThInG?
uh oh stinky
>>554199328Why did she multihit per Metallicize proc? What card did you use?
>>554199328She can AoE, she can proteccbut most importantly, she can ATTACC
[Sad Fact] Sereniel killed the hype by being too broken, now everyone will only discuss the limited characters and their partners
>>5541998184 copy of full metal hurricane with +1 hit metalization.
>>554199328next time post the whole fight
odds force myself to log in and use staminaevens go play real vidyaszero uninstallrollan
>>554200270its on turn 1, thats all that matters
>>554200428no, what matters is the setup itself
>>554198474No, too much things to animate.
>>554199592didnt ask
>>554200509the setup is pop your hurricanes and then use the defense x 4 card thats all
>>554200656clearly not because you have tons of morale
>>554199328Holy shit. What artifacts and stats does your Amir have?
>>554200550literally did ask>do you enjoy anything?technically the answer to this specific question would be "yes"
>>554200814thats just from the dimensional cube + niayou gain all that morale naturally just by searching for cards
>>554200060fax. i took a wait and see approach to yuki and chizuru and it worked out because they're useless. now after serenial i'm never wasting another anchor on a not-limited combatant. i'll have so much saved up i can easily e2+partner the next one
>>554201019okay so post the full fight next time
>>554201101surely you can add 1 + 1 and figure out whats happening
>>554199328Next time show the buff and Ego screen you dishonest rabble.
>>554200364Just uninstall if you're that far gone bro
I was Yuki's first
>>554201206How is it dishonest? That's like saying using Cassius is dishonest because you're using him the way the game intended
>>554201206I'm always impressed by how many people don't know about or don't have dimensional cube, you guys are so bad at the game
>>554201391Show the Narja Ego screen.
>>554201494why would you go over E0, are you brain-damaged?
>>554201587>one image is 1402x828>the other one is 3830x2153Yeah I don't believe it, and desu I don't care but I know for certain that that at turn 1 isn't achievable without manifestos and whales are known for downplaying on internet to seem cool.
thanks anon
so we have confirmation that the story went through at least a half dozen "main" versions (who know how many sub-versions with different details but the same broad strokes) would you all have accepted the epic seven writers version
>>554201924>>554201494>>554201206>this is the retard criticizing the game's balancelmao
>>554201924anon how can you be so fucking retarded, theres nothing on Narja's ego that would influence Amir's damage to that degree
>>554201391I just can't be assed to farm Blue Pot to unlock it...
>>554201391i thot it was just the discarded cards the character you have the cube on that gives you the buffneat
>>554202061>Rei fights to death
>>554201391>don't have dimensional cubeI didn't know that equip procs from teammates' discards too. I still haven't maxed Blue Pot.
Bitch spooked me 4 times already jesus christHer buff better be good
>>554203125Haru buffs? Chizu chuu buffs?
>>554201391My Blue Pot is stalled at level 28 and it fucking refuses to give me the items I need.
>>554203205Chizuru is unbricked with narja + reiHaru... Well...
I don't even know how to max out a planet. I just play the game.
>>554201924he has 20 cards in the gy and has played 8 energy of amir cards alone it's just a giga nia setup.
>>554203570I did testing without Nia too and Amir can do a very respectable 20K+ damage with other draw characters like veronica
>>554196389>Hits count regardless of turns passed>You cannot avoid the stance change into unga bunga dmg>Skipping turns does nothing>Using cards that block turns does nothing Seriously fuck this guy
Orlea, Mei Lin, or Renoa? They're all cute so idk. Who is the most meta?
think for yourself
>>554204043Mei Lin is currently the most meta
>>554204043mei lin
>>554202061Yes because it's better than what we have. The whole reason the story is the way it is is because the director made the protos captain his self insert.
>>554195684She's definitely not great. Not awful, but not great. Her game plan's unique in that you only want her to be attacking, since other character's attacks cancel her mist stance. Extra attacks like Veronica's ballistas, and maybe things like Hugo's follow-ups are fine (not sure). So every once in a while I run Rin for fun as a change of pace. But she's not doing much for me beyond that.
>>554204186>>554204291ok thanks.
>>554204043Mei Lin looks so slutty here.
>>554195684Wait for the selector to get updated
>anon posts video of him killing a mob with an unusual CZN>thread completely buck- and mindbroken
>>554204043Avoid Orlea she is garbage
>>554204812one guy = entire thread greater than sign
>release Sereniel>best most broken unit yet>right after nerfing her 4* version>despite saying no nerfs ever>make her limited>despite saying no limiteds ever>censor Narja>one of the worst units so far>slurpers go>"YOOO HOPEGODS HOW THE FUCK WE EATING THIS GOOD BEST GAME EVER YES SMILEGOOK SAMA I WILL BUY THE NEW PACKS"KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>554204812Narja is so cute...
>>554195684She works well with Veronica or Hugo or other characters that use Extra Attacks since hey don't disable her mist stance. If you can get a dupe of this card she becomes good imo but it basically requires a build where she's the only direct attacker.
>>554204897OK but I want to suck on Narjas nipples and watch my hand sink into them as I grope them and kiss her while she jerks me off.
>>554204897hopeGODS... should we ignore this...
>>554205219Uhm based
>>554204921>saliva trailSlut...
>>554205219This but I will bite her nipples off and watch her cry and bleed.
>>554205585Fucking freak, @mods ban this guy
>>554205219I want to nurse on Narja's large, succulent nipples while kneading her massive, sagging torpedo tits
>>554206087>>554205219Monster milk...
Ive just had 2 chaos runs ended by Senectus or whatever that tentacle fuck is called. How do I deal with him? It seems you need to alternate between combatant abilities, but thats kinda hard when 90% of my cards are Sereniels
>>554205585Judging from the Luke's trauma story, seems like most Protos are genuine schizos
>>554206490It's really easy, bro. Just alternate cards. It's literally that easy. You can end turn early also.
>>554206490He's literally free if the other combatants have 0 cost cards so you can alternate Sereniel and those. Also just end the damn turn, he'll hit for like 200, that's it.
>>554203838i didn't mean to discredit amir/your setup, I just meant there wasn't any hiding of information going on. FMH is a really good card and one of my favorites for simulations, it's amir's other cards that make me not like her as much.
>>554206490If your stress bar is full, it's better to just get the fuck out. Otherwise, you literally just need not to use the same combatant's card more than once in a row.
>>554206723>>554206927>>554207015i didn't know that and am 55
which partner do you guys use on vero?
>>554207223You didn't know that you can just tap the enemy to read what their passives do and how hard their attack's gonna hit?
>>554207891You guys can read?
>>554207981Sir, this is the reading general
>>554207891>readGacha players don't read.
dont look at our revenue bros..will we last until azur promelia comes out?
>>554208362>Good healing >No apology generationLiterally a worse mika.
>>554208609>phonenigger autocorrected AP to apologyOpinion discarded
>>554208572that's such a retarded shill anyway looking at their reddit this is their top post, good luck brohttps://www.reddit.com/r/AzurPromilia/comments/1q2l4jf/if_azur_promilia_doesnt_reach_this_level_in_a/
>>554207431Prydwen is correct here
>>554207431Rosaria 2.
>>554209379I didn't know redditors could be this based.
>>554209802>>554209791ty
>>554207431Marin's the only 5* Partner from the regular pool I have, so it'd be a waste not to use her. Plus her Ego Skill is really useful. AoE damage, plus specifically drawing a Skill card, in Veronica's case, means I'm almost always gonna be drawing something useful like Repose, Mei Lin's Unity, or Yuki's Prepare to Subdue.I do use Rosaria on Hugo, though. Since she tutors Upgrade cards, she comes in handy if I'm stuck picking an Epi that removes the Initiation effect from Hunting Instincts.
games mid i dropped it
>>554212883this but unironically
>>554212883glad to hear it. don't forget to check in 5-6 times a day to continue reminding us about how you're not playing and how much you like other games more.
playable and plapable WHEN?
>>554213484i will
>>554213484based. will keep you posted
>>554204414If the story is currently supposed to be some writers self insert shit why is the captain boring instead of a gigachad doing Lelouch ass plans or something?God the captain is so fucking boring ahhhhhh
i refuse to believe you fags unironically sat down and read through the storylike aint no way
>>554215029LELouch's plans backfire like most of the time though, remember Euphemia?
>>554215318only the new things since yuki
Isn't Narja good because she's just basically always on DMG up and lifesteal?
Is this what I should be doing for a Chizuru teammate?
pretty cool as a serenniel support
>>554215416If you have a way to have Predation and Voracity stacks all the time, yeah
>>554215489idk looks better with magna or khalipe
>>554215636haha
>>554215362For every failed plan he had atleast 1 counter gigachad plan in another scene like causing a massive natural disaster or disarming super nukes mid flight.That's why he was a fun entertaining character, god I miss when tactician characters actually did things.What asian media invented these lame ass cameraman tactician MC's anyway?Was it FGO?
>>554215489does chizu use basic attacks or defense based dmg? serious question since i don't play her
>>554215816Her best build is basic attack spam
>>554215489Yeah that's pretty much it. If you have a Nia with triple Adagio "discard 1 draw 2 character's cards" then that build is pretty much set.
>>554213928I prefer this one.
>>554216024But... My Rei...
>>554216894so cuuuuuute!!!!
>>554216894Sure, put Rei on there too if you have the "activate all basic cards in hand" epiphany on her.
Not gonna farm decks now when I won't be able to use them on season 2
>>554217620Yep, I want to farm saves too but there's no point when Zero System is getting buffed next patch. I'm doing the completion chores instead.
>>554217620Your tower?Or do you think your dps oriented decks will handle level 200 enemies?
>>554218452Khalipe will do the job just fine since I have Narja.
Still waiting to use my selector till I get either Chizuru or Vanessa, to take the other one.With new non-limiteds constantly being added in I fear I might never use this damn thing.
>>554218642Yuki slop make me throb!
Did Narja make Magna worth building?
narja is for cuddling (she will spend 8 hours every night hugging you nearly to death and gently sobbing into your shoulder)
>>554219070Wyell…
I just noticed that they added new weekly packs into the shop.>15 bucks for not even 10 rolls>twiceHoly fuck are the devs actual fucking kikes or what the fuck?
>>554219070i tried since my magna is my only e1 after sereniel, she has good frags and potentials and this narja deck is really good in buffing hershe's still a brickhttps://files.catbox.moe/glqsty.mp4
>>554219070nah bro magna is still the brick of all bricks, only a rework will save her (or changing the counterattack mechanic)
>>554220587>only a rework will save her (or changing the counterattack mechanic)When the first new 5* counterattack unit get released, they'll be forced to change counter attacks. Unless they end up not being a counter attack unit, but rather are a regular unit with a counter attack bonus. If they're good even without counter attacks, they wont rework anything, but if the character is built around counters, they'll have to change something or it will be a bigger brick than Yuki.
>>554220587even amir has more potential than magna, she might be the worst 5 star with yuki and kayron
>>554220813>counters scale higher>counters can break bars>if a counter breaks a bar after you end the turn, you get +1 AP next turn>countering removes stress to one random ally depending on the damage dealtThere. Put it on the survey, post it on the forums, I don't care.
>>554221042Kayron is one of the best 5*s with dupes though.
>>554221470Kayron is shit, he needs e3 and his sig partner to be decent.Well maybe not as bad as Yuki/Magna, he can scale but it takes too much times and this game values only quick kills. in high level chaos with bad mods he'll eat shit before he scales.but he can do some funny stuff, Yuki/Magna are completely unsalvageable without buffs or complete rework.A few epi changes is not gonna make Yuki good, even if she had perma inspiration she will still sucks.same with magna and her pitiful conterattack dmg when the game is about killing the ennemies before they kill you
concession accepted
narja nursing handjob
>>554222247Trickery Strike should just be a passive that enables Inspiration on all her cards to be honest, I haven't found much use for it even if it got a Vuln epiphany during my runs.
lonely males epidemic
>>554222838This is a meme like depression.Just invite some coworkers to drink on Friday after work.
>>554224991Not him, but drinking with work friends isn't the same as having real friends. I've even had some pretty good work friends where we'd hang out on weekends sometimes. It's still not the same as having non-work friends, and workplace dating is always a bad idea, even though every office has multiple married couples who met at work and half of them are cheating on other people from the same office
if you don't already have non-work friends from when you were growing up/school you're fucked.
>>554224991>don't drink>don't have jobNot lonely however, I have my wife Narja.
>>554222247>replace draw with “move to hand” on her search card>now shes goodIts very easy to make yuki good.
>>554226065I'm old and all of my friends got married, so I never see them anymore. I can't even remember the last time I talked to them. They used to give me shit because I had a long term relationship in highschool/college, but now that the tables have turned I literally haven't seen them in years. I don't even think I can call them my friends anymore, it's been so long.
>>554226178That's my cumdump, though.
>>554226930that's unfortunate, my hs friends still find time in the year to meet up
I remember the devs had another stream soondoes anyone remember when?
>>554227968I wouldn't expect another stream, most likely we'll get a preview of the new Season + Chaos, Nine's cards and battle animation and the new Zero System upgrades. Around 30-50 minutes long, I'd imagine.
What are you doing?
>>554229429Narja aftercare from very intense and emotional lovemaking.
Im trying to learn how to use Mei lin
>just use shielders, they are totally gonna save you against that 30k hp boss that deals >2000 dmg/+2morale every turn.If they bring harder content, a lot of characters might be outright unusable.
>>554230045Copy Unity with the Move epiphany, shit's the best for her
>>554202061This still seems shit ngl. I mean anythings better than what we had. I guess at least we wouldn't have had to wait till season 1 for Amir and Haru would have had a Main story appearance?
>>554230107Shields just don't scale well with the stats that we have. So does HP.
>>554230107>If they bring harder content, a lot of characters might be outright unusable.Doesn't Tower have level 200 enemies at the last level? I wonder how the fuck that's even going to be possible.
>>554218642more sexo
>>554218642Pubes sticking out?
>>554230107this is itthe peak fraudulent team in chaos zero nightmare
>>554202061>le church badoriginal vision's themes sucked
>>554230682idk how they will handle it, my world was level 130 with tyrant 4 and 130 seems to be the cap in zero system.But in the tower you have your save data so you are much more powerful, in chaos you have only what the rng gives you.also fuck the curse cards in the green world, you get 2 of these when you take the dupe and they either brick your turn to get rid of or clog your hand and make monsters act immediately in most cases
>>554231181Having an evil loli woulda been sick tho
I can’t wait until Azelante and Luche and then their corrupted versions…
*cucked versions
>>554234260Elaborate.
Is it true the new season will start next week?
>>554234785No it starts February 4th.
>>554235679Do you have a source for that?
>>554236307https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4February 4th is the time when the next banner starts.
>>554231009IIRC Chinese prostitute shave their pubes
>>554236620This isn't a good enough source.
>>554238078>dev roadmap is not a good sourceOk you are either trolling or just simply retarded.
Finished Narja’s trauma code. Mostly to get more crystals to roll Narja.I can understand why there isn’t much discussion going on.The trauma code was actually GOOD. We are exploring Narja’s side of the event, it exposes lore on the importance of a Protos like capacity to properly navigate Chaos as Gaya went in circles and Narja could get closer to the target but would still get lost anyway in the end, indicating a Protos isn’t just a memory shield to corruption; it’s borderline impossible to thread deep into Chaos without one’s guidance.The Trauma Code also humanizes the researchers showing that even though the guy was also a douchebag in his words he actually cared about them and refused to dispose Gaya and Narja because he developed a genuine family bond.The branching bad ends weren’t as developed as Renoa’s but I guess they help nail the importance of the human side of a Protos. Mixing too much monster parts made it so not only Haku but Narja too had the potential to go berserk and become a gargantuan monstruosity. And it’s her side that cares that put that in control. Whenever you stray from that she loses it.Which would all have been a good Trauma Code to release DURING the event. Specially in Part 3 when all the theories were coming together. But now, I am fatigued from Lab 0. And farmed like crazy. Forget the lack of incentive, I wasn’t really wanting to touch it so soon.It felt like everything else in Chaos Zero Nightmare before Yuki’s event: a really good idea but they botched the execution. The trauma code actually works for its purposes and explores Narja well, but it didn’t “strike while the iron is hot”
>>554239486Luke's trauma code was better.
>>554239486>Which would all have been a good Trauma Code to release DURING the event. Specially in Part 3 when all the theories were coming together. But now, I am fatigued from Lab 0.>The trauma code actually works for its purposes and explores Narja well, but it didn’t “strike while the iron is hot”They decided that there needed to be a Limited unit for Christmas.
>>554239486The worst part when the story starting getting good they added skip button now people skip the story. Fucking dumbasses
>>554215029Emasculation fetish
>>554239861I will eagerly read it then. He was one of my first SSRs. His design is cool, I was glad to learn he becoems good with proper crit chance, and he isn’t a furry>>554240047 I suppose that had impact looking back>>554240176lol
>>554218452my e6 cassius will generate enough fort and morale down to protect me, even with just a few quests
>>554230107literally the only things saving you here are fort maxxing, but that's only possible with a maxxed cassius right now
>>554239486The moment they said they are rewriting everything I gave up on giving a fuck about any of the lore
>>554224991>clownface.jpg
Chaos Zero Posts
>>554242685vro in the tower you van only generate 12 cards maximum, the enemies will kill you
>>554250372doesn't really matter, can just have 1 or 2 dice tricks on a full house pop eyed popper, as long as you constantly draw/move cardscompleting the full house quest even like 5 times with getting the 2 morale/fort/resolve card once at e6, is like 12 fort equivalent
Is this 2 homing lasers every turn or on play?either way, this is better than create 3 homing lasers right?
>>554255152It's the best epi for that card.You get 2 laser when you play it and than 2 lasers whenever you ravage an enemy.
>>554255152This card epi upgrade is her core you could get brick option for her other cards as long you have this card upgrade she is still op.
>>554255152It's what makes her busted currently, imagine if Tressa made one dagger every time you apply 3 agony and you got the upgrade that applies an additional agony stack on every Tressa attack card.
OH MY FUCKING GOD STOP LOCKING GEMS BEHIND THE STUPID ASS CHARACTER STORYNIGGA ION GIVE A FUCK LET ME SKIP IT WHY THIS SHIT SO FUCKING TEDIOUS TO FINISHLIKENIGGA
>>554202061i unironically like what we currently have more than this proposed version, louis betrayal into getting saved by kayron is gay, kayron/church racism against awakened minority subplot is megagay, "i don't miss, how about you conserve ammo" is a reddit-tier line, and basically nothing is actually an improvement. i like protos being the empire's thing and kaguya trying to replicate it
>yeah bro Stella Sora gacha sucks ass and is greedy play the ai slop instead so much better with hoyoslop gacha and ai generated designs and storyFast forward >Endfield gacha is the best one ever it works like Stella Sora but pity doesn't carry over aren't you happy now click my referral link Troon western content creators and the retards that blindly follow their words are a cancer to society
>nooo i don't want to play the gameGrow up
>>554258667The main issue with Stella Sora was the pull cost not the gacha system.You got like 9 pulls from the monthly.
Seriously though, how do I even get to level 30 on planets?
>>554259391find new items and enemies etc
>>554259391spend 10 hours a day for a whole week on that planethave fun
>>554257943I can get liking the over-arching of what we have more but the minute to minute is so bad i'd sooner take the reddit liberal gayshit
>>554259391Mostly just highest tier items
do we know the next character
>>554262024Retard
>>554262115oh okay thanks
>>554262024My wife
which one
>>554259391>fight elites on both floors>pick the fight option in events>pick the event gear even if it is shit
>>554264321Right. Middle is too slow. Maybe if it cost 0 and went up by 3 or something then it might be good.
do i take middle just for the ap?
>>554267795yes
>>554239486They should have released Narja with her trauma code first in s1 and make lab0 less shit with no recycled mobs,better rng.She obviously fits the lab0 theme, she is good and fun to play and traumas codes are one of the few non shit story parts in this game.People would have been more hype than releasing a bad chaos with a bad combatant to introduce s1, and then put their shit brick yuki in offseason for people to save pulls in s2.
>>554268994thanks anon, almost good, i can use her with rei and just exhaust the shield though i guess
czn research department here, THIS does not work with narja :(
>>554215029Action implies choices, responsibilities and consequences.There's a reason why MC who got dragged into everything without ever doing anything got extremely popular in media.
So now that the dust has settled, Narja is just a Mika with extra steps that does a little bit of damage right?
>>554271486czn beauty department hereShe's okay but at least she's not as ugly as Mika
I feel like CZN could've worked as an eroge.Chaos system has limitless potentials for thatThe clothes break system, H random encounters, defeat H scene, etc.They don't even need to delete the male characters.Just give them H scenes with other girls.They can remove the MC and make the players mere observers as the girls go through everything if they're worried about people complaining about cuckshit
>>554272478the same argument could be made to take out everything sexual from the game
So who's after Narja?
>>554271486Narja is much cuter and prettier and sexier than Mika and also she doesn't clog your deck with useless cards during Chaos.
>>554272871nine apparently
>>554271898>>554272938Her face may be ugly but you can't deny that she's got a nice ass
are we gonna refresh or wait until morale improves?
>>554273041This patch has no content and I have 300 pulls saved so I'm skipping and waiting if season 2 will be good.
>>554273041i'll wait till next season's characters are revealed and will renew it if they are sex
>>554202061sounds coolbut as usual with stories it's a matter of deliverythe story we got wasn't awful, it's jute the presentation and delivery that was shit.
>>554258667endslop is honestly impressively disappointing, it has literally no selling point besides its graphics. Genuinely impressive to make a game with worse combat than genshin in this day and age
>>554258865Did they fix that somewhat?
>>554272712Except for sales dropping like a rock.
>>554239486i agree, the trauma code was really goodthe ending with her going with us to the beach was very cute tooi was very triggered by them calling haku a she thoto me it feels like sereniel didn't really fit into the story the whole part was forced also yuki should dress decent and not like a prostitute>>554230731https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/140034358https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/140055536
>>554230107>use one sereniel card>winwoah so hard
Chaos zero contentChaos zero discussion
tower of screams is a failure
it's just a beta
>>554279493mei lin should dress like a prostitute
>emergency bumpskek
>>554282638there's nothing to discuss
>>554259391just flexing
i need you
>>554273041I will when the next limited arrives, still have 240 rolls and 2 dupes in Omega + purple tokens
>>554273041yeah i'll refresh today it's like 5 euros who cares
>>554283215browns
narja stonks are going to skyrocket when the cassius nerfs completely remove his morale stacking, leaving her as the defacto best damage boosting support in the game
oh shit just remembered I forgot to do the tower thing it refreshes in a few hours
>>554283396can we go to the new levels then?
>Chaos Zero Reasons to play
>>554273041I have 500 rolls.
Remember to do your weekly Judas bullying>>554283583We can only go to Floor 50 currently
three different deivine epis in one deck, never had this before
>>554283054 (me)i want it i got it
>>554285215I'm happy for you anon
>>554285312thanks anon, anything to keep the thread alive
man there's a lot riding on s2 being good, I hope they learned their lesson and made chaos more rewarding to run from the get go, I'm really excited about new cards to make new decks but I hope the content justifies it a bit better.
>>554285215Where is the forbidden hunger?
>>554285579sadly doesn't fit :( it's a deck specifically for my yuki/mei lin decks, i rolled divine epiphanies with +1ap on their draw cards, so i can (probably) keep on cycling my deck without much of an issue with this
>Game designed around roguelike gameplay>No weekly refreshing endgame content designed to take advantage of this like a weekly refreshing chaos map that's even harder than deep trauma level
>>554285705I don't see the point of playing Nia over Eronica without hunger.
which one do i copy?shackles or vol control?
>>554285846no veronica my friend
>>554285792"hard chaos" is not a particularly engaging concept now that sereniel has released, her performance in chaos is so dominating it feels like the play experience would just be too different between playing her and playing anyone else.For better and for worse chaos is just not the future of content in this game, they realized people don't actually want it to be hard they want it to be rewarding, and they're going to angle content towards save data content.
>>554286028Sereniel is just another part of the problem being so outrageously overpowered, outside of shit not directly made to counter her.
>>554284608It's rare that divine epipis land on the epiphanies that you actually want, for me it lands on generics which makes me ignore it. Congrats.
>>554285876An extra voluntary control makes the shackles better.
>>554286028That's gonna kill the game. People flocked to this game for being a roguelike deckbuilder. If they start leaning more and more and more into generic gachashit content all the people that picked this game up for the roguelite content are gonna fizzle out. Save data has been the bane of this game since launch.
>>554286114serel is "overpowered" in chaos, not really in save data content. Her performance outside of chaos is hard to compare because every character can dunk on anything in one turn currently.
there is no fucking way there's 0 content for 3 weeks right?
https://files.catbox.moe/dh9juv.mp4 well something like this i suppose, with better luck i could definitely just infinite itstill no idea how i highrolled this rei deck because it absolutely goes over 170 points
>>554286246is that BGM new? banger
>>554286368we need idols in czn
>>554286194Disagree, people that are into the game right now are not here for roguelike content, they're here to make powerful decks and use these powerful decks against equally powerful foes. What might kill the game is the devs' inability to push out content that actually makes the fights using those decks challenging and funRoguelike mode just doesn't work in a gacha model where devs are incentivized to put out powerful characters for people to roll on.
>>554286234New to gachas?
>>554286460You're wrong and dumb. Chaos is literally the only fun thing about this game. I haven't even done shitrift even once and everything outside of chaos is a chore.
>>554286590you're deluded and in your bubble. Nobody cares about chaos anymore, nobody has cared for chaos since part 2 of s1.
>>554286486YES BUT I WOULD EXPECT SOME HARD CONTENT AT LEAST WHERE I CAN USE SERENIEL AND NARJA WITHOUT ONESHITTING EVERYTHINGTHE GAME HAS NO CHALLENGE CURRENTLYI WANT A REASON TO BUILD DECKS
>>554286634>delusional retard projectingLike pottery. I know you must save your izzat so I will let you have the final word after this.
>>554286721I'm sorry I made you emotional. I understand how hard it must be to deal with that with two digits IQ.
>>554286707You can now run tier 15 on all chaos worlds.Pick modifiers like -70% HP and 40% to enemies HP/attack on blue pot and have fun..
>>554286721>>554286778aren't you two retards saying the same thing?you both hate save data and want easy content for braindead people that are too stupid to build decks
>>554286843You clearly can't read, are you sure you should be calling anyone else retarded ?
>>554286234The dev know that Endfield release will eat CZN fanbase that's why they give us filler patch.
>>554286824blue pot or the foretold ruin, i still never fully finished a run on the foretold ruin lol
>>554286915that's the killer of all gachas? crying
>>554286843Wow, you're somehow even more retarded than the person I was arguing with.No, I want chaos to be about winning the run, not about building decks for dogshit gacha content. Chaos is frustrating because it's connected to building decks for content I honestly couldn't care any less shit about.I want chaos to be challenging but as long as deck building is connected to it, the devs can't make it challenging enough.
>>554286824t14s are very hard to rolland i like chaos and i like that it is hardbut chaos for me is still something where i build decksi want content to use these decks on
>>554286889>>554287032you two idiots need to learn how to articulate what the fuck you want
>>554287128I was very clear about my position. You just need to improve your reading comprehension.
>>554287195both of you are only saying what you do not want not what you want
>yet another izzat farmer*sigh* I'm just so tired of interacting with brownoids.
>>554287070>t14s are very hard to rollNot since Narja patch.They buffed it so that if you complete a tier 10 run you are more likely to get tier 14 versions.
>>554286915yeah i'd play it if it looked decent somehow but the gameplay looks like total poopi guess if you liked the third person gameplay from genshin or wuwa this might be good?i'm also not sure what the role of the MC is in the game? does the game have a MC?the story in the trailers looked horrendous
>>554286187well the game cucked me with no epi on domain of voracity
>>554287679I was originally excited about xenoblade style gacha game but with a bit more dodging and positioning.And then they removed every element that made the gameplay unique, on field characters basically do nothing, and when you swap you don't actually go to their position, they just get teleported where you are.It's unbelievably sloppy and soulless, and I'll be extremely happy when one week after launch everyone calls it shit.
>>554287393Is this confirmed? So instead of constant reset it’s to do runs? Guess it’s to encourage not min max reset we’ll have to see how s2 handles rerolls then.
I unironically don't know how to build decks now. Do I just wait for the next event chaos?
>>554288259what deck are you after bro
>>554288317I mean generally. You can't reset, you can't do shit.
>>554288259i just play chaos with CZNs i might want decks for and build the ones i get good stuff for
>>554288153You can read it in the official patch noteshttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11778007
>>554288259If you already have save data that can clear tower, then yes. There's no reason to make new data this close to the release of a new season.
>>554288453it's actually very easy to do decks right now (but who knows if they'll be usable in future seasons?)pick ser ego 2 and cas ego 6, choose who you want to make the deck for as your third character, go city of mist tier 15, try to get the epiphanies you want, remove all the cards you don't want and your deck is readyhttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/deck-builder is a good place to build one and then just follow it in gamei made decks for all characters without a problem, it's fun when you finally get the one you wanted :3
>run same exact shit X times>remove basics heal n shield>get BiS upgrades>quoth the SmileGook slurper>"YOOOOOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY FIRE!!!"
How much worse is the sword equipment compared to Dopamine injector? I want to test a specific deck but I'd rather farm it on bug world instead of going back to lab
>>554289553Dopamine injector is only good if the character has draw. Does your DPS have draw?
>>554289683yep
>>554289228why does this guy look like browner saintontas
This is decent for Mei Lin, isn't it? I'm trying to build a Sereniel support deck but I ended up with this. I wanted to get both of the unique voracities since Mei can use both but I think this will do for now.
>>554291852good eq but no epi for the basic attacks kind of sucks, i'd say this one you have rn is better for sereniel
>>554292089I do have the basic attack Voluntary Control. I have two different epis for it since I copied the base version. That's why I said I wanted both uniques for it but ended up with this.
>>554292182hehe i'm blind, it's pretty nice then :3
What happens if you fail a tower run? Do you lose an attempt?
>>554293557yes
>>554293654Damn, no way, that's fucked up.
>>554286234You like?
>>554293904anon you have a whole ass week to get to the max floor of that week with 5 attempts a daylosing an attempt means nothing until we get to the actually hard floors
>>554286915>EndfieldLMAO enjoy your scam game.
Someone should tell these gook fuckers that the point of weekly and monthly packs is to make them really good offers.$30 a week for 16 rolls is a major fucking piss take.
>>554286915>THIS is what they call the WuwakillerKEKAFUCKINGR00000000000000000000000000000000000000000OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>554294080??? I was told attempts don't reset daily? That's why I've not done tower yet.
>>554294301they dont, attempts reset weekly
>>554294376>anon you have a whole ass week to get to the max floor of that week with 5 attempts a daySo this is bullshit?
>>554294469yes
>>554294376>>554294469>>554294516Eh? Isn't Tower a permanent mode with one-time rewards that don't reset?
>>554294582no anon, we're talking about the scary tower of screaming or whatever it's named, the event that's happening rn
>>554294651yeah? it says one time rewards
>>554294713yes but it goes up to like 200, you get five attempts per week, if you lose your attempt is wasted
>>554294793ok but I dont lose out on not doing them because its a permanent mode right?
>>554294085>I struggle to understand "only pull with 120 pulls"
>>554294893the only thing about it says that it's in "beta" so right now... yeah, it's permanent i think?
>>554294296>>554295235>Angelo money well spent
>>554295379>>Angelo moneyFunny, because I pay Angelo.
>>554294296Not using beluga?
>>554294938>Casually forgets that you need to pull to get weapon pulls>Casually forgets that the banners are 17 days and you have 3 of them during a patch>Casually forgets that the currency income is shitLMAO
>>554295681Gotta switch it up, keep things fresh ya know?Also, check out this 5.
>>554296118welp an 8 is fine too
I just failed a run and I didn't lose a challenge attempt so you guys are full of shit.
>>554296848attempts in the tower don't get consumed if you fail/leavei wonder if we can replay the tower after reaching floor 50, patch notes say you can redo it once you reach thetop but the current max is 50 so...
>>554298056Then why didn't you say so when I originally asked and why did you let those niggers say you do lose attempts upon failing?
>>554298275Not everyone lives on this thread. Personally, with how whiny you are, I'm glad you were misled.
>>554282558SEXOOO
>>554298741the sloppa set has nudes (censored)https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/140065040
>>554298584*cums on you*
>>554298939Thanks!
Do the higher difficulty boss sim fights give out more rewards?
>>554299501Yes but not by much
>>554299560Nta but I heard the rewards cap at lv7. Or at least the skill mat. Is that not true?I've been doing lv9 because I don't have crazy good decks and even that takes 5-10 resets to get a good enough run to win with my Mei Lin.
is there a big event later during the patch or am I missing something? there is no way I'm stuck doing only dailies for 16 days... I already farmed all the perfect decks for my characters...
>>554300808later today theres gonna be new tower stages and the difficulty will ramp up quite a bit afaik
>can actually auto weekly with this teamnice
>>554298939Why am I supposed to hate slop again? If ahartist draws troonshit while aikino makes this obviously I'm siding with ai now.
Since I started playing czn and have now a lot of czn related internet browsing and search history, google has been bombarding me with ads for what feels like an infinite number of gacha games. I knew about the really popular ones like Genshin and Blue Archive but I had no idea that for every ZZZ there was 700 Dragon Travelers. So many of them advertise themselves as "idle games" too which is even crazier because the only reason I play czn is because of the gameplay, yet there are people out there spending real money on a game where you don't even play?
>>554302687>he's still getting ads>in 2026Why?
Just got Narja. What planet do I farm?
>got to level 50 finally after 20 days>this is my loadout and characterswhere am I gonna get 90 more orange balls????
>>554302834i'd suggest bug planet or swamp but she also kinda works in city of mist because she has a multihit card
>>554302934That's a reroll tier account.
>>554302934>sereniel, rei, cassius one team>narja, beryl, mika second teamcongratulations
>>554303193>cassiusdoes he know
>>554302802Yeah that was a relevant addition to the conversation. At least you managed to find a way to feel superior to a stranger online. I'm sure that makes you feel a bit better about your life doesn't it
>>554302934Just look at all the achievements and rewards for various activities. 50 crystals here and 200 crystals there doesn't sound like much but they add up fast. I'm at almost 500 pulls and never bought an anchor.
>>554272478I'd make an h-game as a solo dev with ai sloppa just to make this a reality
>>554302834For the best possible deck you always wanna farm Lab0/Blue Pot since those have the free removal convert event which saves you 50 points unless you're building someone like Mei who only removes 1 basic but for the easiest time you want the instinct planet.
>>554301696idk but ai made me able to look at full POV story porn sets with my fav anime girlsi barely touch myself to something else
>>554303193>narja and mika in the same team???
>>554303513Should I be spending gems on orange anchors? sounds like an awful idea
>>554304229>>554302951How am I suppose to build her? Like what's the card to aim for and copy?
>>554304391depends how bad you want the selector
How do I stop the stove client from randomly showing this?
>>554304391Well, what exactly do you plan on saving them for? Plus, if you do everything, they really do throw a ton of them at you. I'm not going to go through the numbers but I would guess if you did all the battle missions and story stuff and trauma codes, all the permanent static content, that's probably 40k crystals. At least 30k. I've got 16k right now and I'm sure I've spent at least 30k on pulls.
>>554305006Play on your phone
damn nia is so cool to play
PLEASE SMILEGOOK BUFF HAKU BUFF CHIZU BUFF YUKI
>>554304627Either the support build above where she has a card that lowers 2 cards' cost by 1 or the DPS build where you stack up so you can do 1k damage on mealtime
>>554304627Narja is not that straightforward to build, it really depends on what you want her to do.I'm too lazy to give you a breakdown but this fag does an okay job at it.https://www.youtube.com/live/SwGB0s-Juj8?si=roOW-U1Xy0FFQCgE&t=8197
>>554305592>you can do 1k damage on mealtimesooo...half one sereniel laser?
we should put WGs youtube in the OP he has the best guides
>>554305750Putting eceleb faggotry into the OP is bad even for a joke. Also, that guy is a blatant fucking shill.
>>554306091i mean his yt's name is WG: CZN so yeah he probably likes the game
>>554304798>Put down just 320 crystals in the orange banner>5* >It's my FOURTH FUCKING RIN, AFTER GETTING HER FROM BEGINNER BANNER AND 2 MORE TIMES FROM ORANGES AHHHHHJ FUCK THIS STALKER BITCH
>>554306195It's not about "liking" the game. He is an actual, literal shill.
>>554306302I have e4 Rin and still find my E1 Renoa much better Void dps. I actually think Rins stance should buff her crit dmg or something
>>554306302I would trade my 2 Mei dupes and 2 Khalipe dupes for 3 Rin dupes.
>>554306302at least it isn't your fourth hugo........
>>554306302damn wtfcould be worse, look at mine, the fucking homos are stalking me and i won't even level them
What did she mean by this?
>>554306659Rei is our sunshine and piss CZN
>>554306398don't really care, his guides are really good
man...
>>554306302>rolled a few more times>5*>kayronI dont know why I even bother with this game, i dont think ive ever been this unlucky
>>554304627you should do the event battles, it gives you 5 different team compositions and also explains which cards are importantit's really well made
>>554308404The Narja/Chizuru battles were some of the least fun gameplay I've ever experienced in any card game. There's just too many words. Felt like playing damn yugoih.
anyone's game gets auto muted whenever you log in for the day??
>>554309079I've had my game muted for so long I forgot it had audio until reading this.
>>554308404I liked em too
>>554309079yeah i need to restart it to fix it
>>554302934We will get a decent amount of pulls with season 2
its been a fun ride"games mid i dropped it" guy signing out for real this time, no more copeposting
>>554307503>>554201987
>>554309079Are you alt tabbing or minimizing your game every time you log in? Because that's the only time I've encountered an audio bug. Muting and unmuting the sound in settings fixes it.
>>554311157kino
It's me or now you can pay 60 energy at the waypoint and at the boss instead of just at the boss in chaos? Is it worth it?
>>554311508Same rewards so yes unless its a shit set.
>>554311157>lv60 owen>e3 kayronnothing of value was lost
>>554311157why would you delete it instead of just uninstalling?
>>554311157I would've waited until season 2 to see the improvents but you do you.
>>554311580So it's still 120 energy max per run? Alright then, I thought I could pay more and get more rewards per run now.
Why give it attention?
>>554311157>xhe was trying to make Gayron work this whole timeoh good my sidesno fucking wonder you didn't like the game
what planets have conversion events? just blue pot?
>>554311157bro typo'd lol
>>554311884fuck u mean conversion
>>554311830why not? it's like watching an accident
>>554311884I think all of them? But blue pot's is nice because it's a remove tag card so you don't even have to pay the removal cost. Lab 0 has mutant sample.
>>554311817It's 240 energy max for the 4 total rewards you an get.
>>554311884I think they all have one don't they? 99% sure instinct planet has a conversion for fragrant bait. I don't know much about order and judgement chaos.
>>554311974>>554312051>>554312218yeah i know the bait convert, i meant convert remove
Chaos Massive Concerns
>>554312397I don't think city of mist has a remove tag one, but it has a couple that convert to useful neutrals like gear bag
>>554311841The account has Sereniel. If that broken bitch can't even keep players playing the game then we have a real problem here boss.
I should add it in the next survey to forbid mental patients to roam the city and make policy suggestions.
>>554313194Yeah I'm so broken up about losing that drama queen.
>>554311157>all these shills popping up to defend SmilegateLmao>>554311758The only improvement they could do adding epi reroll and delete generic epi.
>>554311157>"games mid i dropped it" was a gay homosex the whole time
Sup, coombrained losers. Remember when I said like a month ago that your 15 hour threads will turn into days old threads soon cause the game is AI-slop with a shitty gameplay loop? Glad you're at this point.
>>554311157See you in Endfield, king
>>554313350>make policy suggestions.they cant do that when broken
>>554313695>Remember when I said like a month agoNobody remembers you faggot. Go back.
I can't fap to Narja........
>>554313695my fucking sideswhat is that, the costumed chink was fucking dying in his costume
>>554313695i don't remember you but that is literally every thread on this site when the games don't get new content for a few days?real nostradamus shit
the fanart? the kino story? doko?!
>>554311708>>554311841>>554313624>play mixed toilet game>mad at male characterWhat do we call this type of SeaMonkey?
>The only improvement they could do adding epi reroll and delete generic epi.lol
>>554314131bro you deleted your account you can leave now
>>554313695No one cared then and no one cares now. What value is there in the thread being fast? Does that affect me in any way? Does it affect the game?
>>554314131>madWho is? I think it's hilarious that a faggot was playing my titty game.
>>554314131First off, I don't even think there are any roguelite deckbuilders that aren't mixed toilet. It unfortunately comes with the territory. Second, you can play a mixed toilet game without having your most invested unit be a male. He's got e3 and Bria. He also has a level 60 Owen. He's just a gay homosex.
>>554314454>you can play a mixed toilet game without having your most invested unit be a maleThe same cope mihoyopag and wuwajeet usedI see carry on cuck king.
>>554314048the rewrote already failed before it began. I can already predict the third overhaul when this game goes full brown dust 2 chaos tentacle rape
guys maybe it was a girl...
>>554314770>The same cope mihoyopag and wuwajeet usedI have never played a homoverse game and I have never played WuWa either. Open world slop does not interest me.>I see carry on cuck king.You deleted your account and you uninstalled the game. You can leave now, you literal faggot.
>>554314935I accept your concession.
>>554315106You're the one who conceded, you gay homosex. You deleted your account, uninstalled the game, said you would leave and yet you're still here being a literal faggot.
>>554314902i'm a girl and i'd faster kill myself than lvl up owen
>>554314454>calling me gay homosex when i benched luke, lucas and hugo all at lv1>implying that lv60 owen wasnt out of absolute boredom>homescreen reiwhy are you like this
>>554314902>mobileMaybe, but xhe types too slow to be a proper female. Probably a tranny.
>>554314902>>554315256
>>554311157Jesus Christ this webm make sunk cost fags go defensive mode and start attacking everyone.
Any other weekly stuff besides the 3x boss and the tower?
>>554311157
>>554315661Nope, you can chill now
>>554315661no, go boot up bd2
>concession guy outed as being brown ESL>he deletes his account and leaves the next day
>>554315886historical
>>554315886>he is a gay homosex on top of it all
>>554315886k-on collab when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqaYT57fFHg>post that they need to lean harder into Chaos and less into Save Data>get called a retard>the CCs are beginning to make videos also saying that Chaos isn't enough of the game>it feels more like a chore that you must complete to play Save Data, which is what they are turning into the real game, which is not the reason that many people downloaded the game in the first placeHe's right (and I'm right), you know
>>554311157>he fell for the kayron meme>he rolled bricki and brickzuru>e3 kayron, no narja, e0 sereniel without partnerNo refunds from smilegook
>>554315886i never engage in any "discussion" around here thoughbeit. just drop a fast shitpost then fuck off for a month straight
>>554315886>>554316132>>554316142>licking each other woundKEKAROOO
>>554316280Nia is already basically a keion.
>>554315886>>554316132breeding sex with these women
smilegoys didn't like this one
>>554316581it's really easy to make people who play gacha game because of the "gameplay" mad, they need justification for cosuming flop.
Endtrannies ramping up their shilling across the board today, huh?
>>554316602I don't lick other men because I'm not a faggot like you are
>>554316558What do you think Season 2 is fixing, fag? it's making Save Data farming miles easier while reserving the true roguelite mode for Season 3.
>>554316602>kekaroo guy is also ESL
>>554317329i am also ESL
>>554317303>What do you think Season 2 is fixing, fag?I don't know that it's "fixing" anything. >it's making Save Data farming miles easier How so?>while reserving the true roguelite mode for Season 3.So Season 2 isn't doing anything about it then? Actually, Season 2 is adding Save Data content with Tower. Undercooked Save Data content, at that. Undercooked, under delivered, and timegated Save Data content.
>>554317329Thanks God I'm not muttmerica
>Thanks
>>554317521Proof?
>>554317303>the true roguelite mode for Season 3.how do we tell him bros?
This bored little monkey is still here after quitting? Lmao
>>554317665>Proof?Proof of what, retard? Do you even play this game?
>>554317521>>554317717tired of BTFOing readlets
>>554317521>>554317717>>554318068
>>554318068They're sarjeets (probably /vmg/) raiding the thread not players.
>>554318068>>554318241english readingGOD
>>554318068We'll have to see how it's actually implemented, because literally every single thing they've ever said has been a lie, including the current Tower which is actually in "beta", but that sounds nice. Still, that only helps Save Data. Doesn't lean into Chaos, which is the reason a lot (most?) people started playing. >>554318241>Additionall, by disabling certain existing systems such as the Discard pile systemWhat does that even mean?Hopefully it's good, but it's still a long way off. And as I already mentioned, we were supposed to get Tower and we didn't even really get that. I don't know if they have ever delivered on a promise yet. It's just all been lies. I do think the game has gotten slightly better, but it really has been mostly just lies and then correcting stuff that is complained about too much.
>>554318565>What does that even mean?Thanks for letting me know you don't play the game of a general you're posting in.
>>554316558basically add a super chaos leaderboard mode. something like 4-5 floors
>>554318565They probably meant the used pile, so we would be able to play a card multiple times in one turn.
>>554318040>>554318565Do YOU even play this game retard?
PFFFAHAHAHA VMGJEET HUMILATION
>>554318663>>554318764I do play this game though, anon. I just don't pay attention to what the game names shit. Can you explain what it means "by disabling certain existing systems such as the Discard pile system"? What the fuck does that mean? >>554318757How does that work though if hand size is 10? Seriously, what does it mean? Does anyone know what it means? You draw a hand of 5 cards and you can just keep playing them? That doesn't make any sense. You can only play one card and then it gets Exhausted? That sounds like bullshit. I have no clue what it means and apparently no one else does either.
>>554319090>Does anyone know what it means?It means you can keep infinitely drawing and playing cards in a turn and the deck will just cycle instead of saying you ran out of cards.No more "oops I played/discarded out every card with Nia and can no longer activate a draw 1"
>>554319090I was about to take your side with the ambiguity of the wording but you lost me here. It's not a very complicated concept at all. They're removing the "graveyard" and going to a classic discard pile like... every other card game ever made.
>>554319090It means the Discard pile is turned off, so your played cards go straight to GY instead of limbo for 1 turn. Just infer it, man.>How does that work though if hand size is 10? Nothing, but it does make Yuki's self-draw miles better.
aaaaa i want the third boss thingy back
>>554319394>It means you can keep infinitely drawing and playing cards in a turn and the deck will just cycle instead of saying you ran out of cards.Oh, okay. Thanks for actually explaining what it means instead of being one of the retards who are reading criticisms about the game and becoming belligerent because of it.
>>554319394I'm not experienced with Nia but I don't think her discarded cards go into the used pile anyways
>>554319596>retards who are reading criticisms about the game and becoming belligerent because of ityou also can't grasp context clues, you're ngmi
>>554319898Thanks for proving my point.
>>554319596>>554319970Listen dumbfuck why are you talking as if you're not the one in the wrong for not reading the news? You deserve to get laughed at
>1 single roll on standardum who asked?
>tranimal poster
Tranime avatarfag is the worst poster in this general.
>>554320202This ugly bish good?
>people trying to explain>they don't even know the terminologyCards go to the used pile when they are used and not exhausted. The used pile is added to the discard pile at the end of each turn.Discarded cards go to the discard pile. The discard pile is added to the draw pile when you try to draw but have no drawable cards in the draw pile.The graveyard refers to both the discard and used piles.
>>554320137I watched the Roadmap. I do not use the Stove website because it's a piece of shit, just like the Stove launcher. Also, I will remind you that you are becoming belligerent because you read criticisms of the game, and I will also remind you that literally every single thing so far has been a lie by SmileGate and everything has been undercooked and under delivered. No matter how good the words might sound (they sound decent) the implementation will absolutely be somehow worse than what you are expecting. They have never so far met expectations with any sort of content, and in fact they are continually walking back things that they have done, which does make the game better, but it shows you where their head is at.
>>554320414Yeah, see, fuck all that terminology but thanks for explaining it. So it means that Mei Lin can infinitely fetch her punches with the Move Unity, right? And things like that.
>>554320202Also why the fuck are they so incompetent at the element system???>4/7 of all controllers are instinct>4/6 of all instincts are controllersMeanwhile 7 of the sets in this game are element specific and instinct has 2 that are both dps sets??????
>>554320601>So it means that Mei Lin can infinitely fetch her punches with the Move Unity, right? And things like that.Retard
hopeGAWDS how are we feeling today?
>>554320668Are you gonna just keep shitposting and being belligerent because you think you're reading things that are attacking you as a person, or are you going to engage with the conversation on this primarily text based forum that you choose to angrily browse?
>>554320790You're shitposter from /vmg/
getting so many cool decks need content to use em on
>>554320735- I think I might have forgotten to date my combatants before reset+ A shitposting faggot quit
>>554320364no
Tower 26-50 is out
>>554320735I'm training my lucid dreaming so I can suck on Narjas nipples in my sleep.
>>554320601Move and Draw would do the same thing basicallyLike picrel would be an infinite damage combo
https://files.catbox.moe/dossm2.mp4 this is really easy mode
>>554320790bro you don't engage with shit. you just write the same thing over and over here every day because you're absolutely pathetic. just a complete spastic.
Content doko
>>554314048Stella Sora has both
>>554321368sis...
>>554321302>picrel would be an infinite damage comboI think the card doesn't go into the used pile until its effect resolves, so you'd need two draw sources.
>>554320429I am belligerent but only because you're barking up the wrong tree. If you said that the seasonal chaos last season was a reskinned City of Mist and are expecting the new one to be a reskinned Swamp of Judgement I wouldn't be mad because you'd actually be right. You're complaining about shit that's literally addressed in the Roadmap PV.
>>554320626Also why is Passion so prevalent? Every planet has passion enemies and the restaurant has the passion food and Mei Lin and Selena can apply passion weakness but then no one else can apply their weaknesses.
>>554320735Honestly I'm not expecting much I never trust Smilegate roadmap, it's really funny that the same team that have 7 years experience working on E7 still make the same mistake.
>>554321550:3
>>554321551Yeah it has x2 Adagio
>>554321883Oh I didn't notice
>>554320885No, I'm not. >>554321302>Move and Draw would do the same thing basicallyOkay, so like I said, Mei Lin's "Move" Unity would be able to infinitely draw her Punches? >>554321451You're still acting belligerent and needlessly shitposting just because you read a true post that you dislike reading. I also think that you're doing that schizo thing where you start thinking that every post you dislike was all made by one (1) person. >>554321632>I am belligerentI know. >You're complaining about shit that's literally addressed in the Roadmap PV.I'm complaining about the current state of the game and the near future state of the game as well. They seem to be doubling down on Save Data, not leaning into Chaos. And again, no matter how good your imagination might spin the words from the Stove website that you showed me, literally every single thing we have received has been undercooked and under delivered. No matter how good it sounds, what we receive will be worse, and it ain't even here yet, and it wont even be in "beta" like the Tower currently is for another 3 months.
>>554321938>I also think that you're doing that schizo thing where you start thinking that every post you dislike was all made by one (1) person.But those are your posts though
>>554321938>They seem to be doubling down on Save Data, not leaning into ChaosThat's what the Season 2 Zero System buffs are for, it's to make Chaos runs for farming save data smoother so you can stop doing it for chores and instead for fun. Functionally it'll just make slackers stop doing Chaos runs after they get their saves for the season but that's fine.
>>554321938>Okay, so like I said, Mei Lin's "Move" Unity would be able to infinitely draw her Punches? If you had a way to infinitely draw unity out, sure
>>554321641Newcuties are adorable
what gacha should I start playing aside from this one(I'm done farming all the characters I care about) while I wait for endfield...
>>554321938you don't understand extremely basic game mechanics. you barely play. you are a transparent gachadrama shitposter. you have basic bitch not even ten hours in the game questions in the same post as "weary, fed-up" comments about game direction. it's just pathetic how stupid are you?
>>554322931Play real games instead.
>>554322995Every single thing you said is wrong, and I genuinely don't understand why you are seething so bad.
>>554323000Real games don't give me the same dopamine fix I get from gambling on cute anime girls that gachas do...
>>554203285Haru's not good?She spooked me to E2
>>554321641because smilegook is just doing random things
Don't careStill playing CZN:)
>>554322995Everything in this post is true but you really should stop giving him replies
>>554323862This. The game is going to EoS in a year anyway better enjoy it.
>>554324370but enough about stella floppa
>>554323345This card seems to be custom made for her but it's probably still not enough to unbrick her. I don't have her though so I can't test.
it is infuriating how much potential this game and the story have and how much they fuck up with it in terms of writing or balancingdrives me mad
Tower 45The blue pot boss with 50K healthAh, how delightful
>>554323345I think Haru is fine, especially with E2. +AP anchor pointers are good.
>>554325204no one is beating this shit
>>554325204At least you're not -1 draw on turn start and have status cards bricking your draw pile.
>>554325632
>>554325058The older rewrites just show the plot never had potential.
>>554325868...yup im getting one of these on Cassius/Nia
am losing the will to to go on Camilla, Hella bros. I don't think i can handle this furry sneeded account
>>554326454It's not just your account
>>554326454>he raised Hugo>his Hugo is E4Just sell the damn account, shit's cursed at this point
>>554326454Then why did you upgrade him?
>>554326454lmao
>>554326454By leveling him, the account seed understood and accepted the fact that you liked him and wanted more copies, you fucked up anon
At last... it is done...
good news, tower is still replayable when you clear floor 50, so you can at least try differents comps there even if the rewards are one time only
>people saying new tower floors are hard>Khalipe still solos them on autoy'all got my hopes up
>>554326454If you hate male character why play mixed toilet game?
>>554326454actually while playing the narja battle missions i thought that he was pretty cool
>>554328180I don't hate males. I want copies that makes characters more fun to play or fixes their kits like E4 Kayron or Rin
>>554325876i mainly meant the world, chaos, protoss, space, horrori really like the theme
>>554328180I'm unfortunately a gameplay fag and this is currently the gacha with the best gameplay. At least none of the banners have been homos. As long as none of the good units are homos, I think I can live. As soon as they make the elf twink a Limited must pull unit, I think I have to quit.
I will not roll NarjaI will not roll NarjaI will not roll Narja
Hopes and fears for the balancing pass?
>>554330348I don't have Cassius so I hope he gets gutted beyond salvation
>>554330592fuck you
>>554330348>HopesNone. Hope is that it's actually a "balance adjustment" and not just nerfs, but of course it's only going to be nerfs. Magna will not be buffed. >fears They will make Tressa unusable. They will make Cassius even more unusable than nuTressa. Mei Lin's kick nerf will be permanent, and all of the retards here who doubted me will mysteriously forget that they were wrong.
Lost in Tower from tTorns in Floor 35, shit hits a little too hard when I'm using Sereniel Narja Khalipe and I got no VEs to shield with or Mealtime to heal with. Do I finally get off my ass and build Magna?
>>554330348i dont think it will be badi hope they buff yuki chizu and the pig
New tower floors are too difficult. I can't be bothered farming specific save data just to clear the boss. And this isn't even halfway through. Nah, not the kind of content I'm interested in. Easy pass. Last chance the game has to keep me playing is with the revised story. If that flops I'm out.
>>554331137>staying for gacha story?
>>554331137I cleared F45 without wonderer of the void and without sereniel, your damage is just low
>>554331508Yup. It's a gacha game. I'm not buying additional power and I'm not going back to the mines either. I expected the tower to be more like a long roguelike Chaos, but instead it's just Basin without a time limit and where mobs are bullet sponges. Not interested.
If y'all had just built Beryl, you would have no problems with this tower. I've been telling cuties to build her as their second DPS, but hardly anyone listens.
https://files.catbox.moe/n0szdn.mp4 thx for help beryl!
>>554331828Retain? I haven't done the new Tower yet, I just don't like Beryl.
Beryl does it yet again, cut it a bit close on wave 4 at 200 HP though
>>554331828I want to have fun not to prove something. This isn't fun and there's no other content. Off to a terrible start. No wonder the threads are practically dead already.
I cleared the tower with Sereniel Narja Rei and I only lost once before I swapped out Veronica and my Narja deck is terrible and I couldn't even get 500k points last season
>>554332306mad cuz bad
oh, that's actually everything, that's the end of the beta tower...
>>554332427You got me there brosef. Know what I'm gonna do next? Absolutely fuck all. I'm gonna leave the thread. See ya.
>>554332527Not if I do this*sucks your cock*
>>554331981Yeah, there are enemies that counter cardspam, and Beryl is the best DPS that doesn't need to cardspam. It's possible to brute force it, but Beryl is the best answer if you're underbuilt.
>>554332902>>554331897case in point
>>554330330
gg
>>554333228Fat milkers
nvm tower was pretty easyI game over'd to the bluepot stage and the robots (thornmail out of nowhere and I was spamming cards) but after figuring out it was easy
Ok, I'll build my Beryl. Should I build Magna as well or nah?
>>554331137lol is this a shitpost
>>554334687beryl and khalipe lesbians only
>>554331897>>554332289show beryl dicks
>>554334837i kept the basics so khalipe can use her card to give them retain if i have to
>>554334837nta but you just need 4x opening found and as many hidden bullets as you can fit. Other epiphanies don't really matter.
>>554335318>>554335072yeah great i don't even have her leveled just need a 4 copy deck
>>554335491imo this is a safe and an easier deck to make, just gotta get lucky
Fun
just downloaded the game, any brick moves i should avoid?
>>554336102>any brick moves i should avoid?Buy an account that has Sereniel on it, preferably e2.
So thats it? I'm done till next season?
>>554336102red = skipyellow = okaygreen = great
If this game doesn't bring anything new by next week I think I'll drop it for Endfield tbqhwy.
>>554336102Don't spend units on the Zero system when you unlock it, except when absolutely needed. It's better to use chaos orbs which you earn for completing chaos.Focus on your core 3 units at first, then core 6.You don't need to unlock all potentials for each unit, but one point in each is a reasonable investment. Leveling DPS potentials is more important than supports.Use 3-star partners, they're very good.Don't roll on the partner banner.
>>554336435obtaining Sereniel on day 1 of playing the game ruined every other character for meit was more or less a brick move
>>554336102>missed Serenielyou are already bricked, but not having her will make struggle and have more fun
sereniel is good but you can still achieve the same kind of power with mei lin
>>554338159Not with the devs fucking her over with every new boss
>>554336102we still get newcuties, there's hope after all
>>554336772IDK, CZN is so comfy now days i literally do 1 chaos a week run and auto basin and farm shitDid you retards burn yourselves with the ladder memes?
>>554336102i highly recommend you go on setsunaepic and buy an account with sereniel on it, the character is mega powerful and is probably better value than anything you could buy in the store by far
>>554339005That person is just shilling Endfield, it's no use engaging.
>>554339005I NEED to have 3 homing lazers with go to hand at start of turn epiphany this game is literally boring as shit when you dont get overpowered cards especially since chaos is literally designed to be beatable just by facerolling over your keyboard because it has no true deckbuilding and nonexistent strategy
>>554336102just b urself
Ive spent hours doing chaos runs each day the last few days to make a Yuki deck with the 2 decreased cost epiphany Flash Slash. Havent gotten the epiphany even once...
>>554340247It's rough farming decks without the seasonal chaos. I don't think you should push yourself for now, just take it easy.
>>554340828cute
>>554336102Magna might seem cute but you're essentially trading stress for damage which is not good, other than that you should read what cards you're playing otherwise you'll get laughed at
>>554340828cringe
>>554336750>yuki>okayLMAOOOOOOOOOOO
>>554342412she is one of the few characters you can go infinite with
can replicas breed
>>554342412Yeah she's okay, not Mei Lin tier but she does 1k AoEs on the regular no issue>>554342715Blatantly false, she has "draw" cards not "move" cards
>>554342840that’s where nia comes in and resets the deck
>>554342787They take on the properties of creatures they eat, so if you feed her enough cum...
>>554343063bro............
Why are dragoncucks so greedy? Bro dropped a Fennie on this board, baka...
>>554343258this isn't shadowverse...
>>554343063Fair, fair
>>554343258Why are you still playing that shit game, bwo
>>554343516I'm a returning player, actually. But why do you think it's shit?
>>554343258Hey buddy I think you got the wrong cardge general, shadoba is two pages down
>>554343853Fuck you
>>554342787yes
Why did Smilegate make sure that the first 3 limited characters were mid at best and then made Sereniel absurdly busted? It's not like they'd make less money if the other characters had been good to great.
>>554345181Limiteds?
>>554345181They gave out like 200 rolls in apology gibs so of course the units had to be bad
>>554343063You literally don't play the game. A played card can never come out of the recently played pile unless its moved. Nia can only draw and discard.
>>554345782Weren't Haru/Yuki/Chizuru limited before being added to standard? t. latecomer
>>554346171Nia literally fishes out played cards so what are you on about?
>>554346308no, they were new rate up units. limited units don’t get added to standard pool after their rate up is done.
>>554343612Not him but I genuinely think it's the worst game ever made. Like, period.Too much RNG even for card games and being able to shit out 15 million damage from hand with no setup is not good gameplay.
>>554346308>Weren't Haru/Yuki/Chizuru limited before being added to standard? we really need a refresher on what 'limited' means
I can't believe we went through all that trouble farming chains when we could've just done the Yuki/Nia infinite combo for infinity pointsWhat were we thinking
>>554346308Do you understand what "Limited" means
>>554345181If it wasn't for Mei Lin, Hugo, Veronica, Luke and Khalipe, people would think Yuki, Haru and Chirizu to be good, maybe even meta-defining. The problem was that the starting characters were already too busted compared to them, so there was no reason to pull. And still there isn't if you have them. And we can't forget about Tressa and Mika, two 4* with a kit of 5*
>>554346308Yes and everyone who's arguing with you is retarded.>>554346830>>554347216Go on then, anons. Define limited for this context.
>>554346601>>554346830>>554347216Call it time limited then. Narja isn't in the standard banner yet, for example.
>>554347549>>554347652>Limited = cannot be acqured outside of reruns outside the launch bannerThere.
>cardfags completely clueless about gacha terminology>gachatards having no clue how the game's mechanics workWe've got all kinds of entertainment in this general
>semantics warI just wanted to get across that if I had spent my limited rolls to get those characters I would've felt jewed when Sereniel came along
i miss the retard that doomposted with the tressa sad car picture
>>554348564No no, anon. They're "rate-up" pulls.
>>554348787
>>554348657everyone moved to /end/ (game's not even out yet)
>got my main teams and their partners to level 60What's next, memory frags or potentials?
>>554286196It depends really. Like most DPS characters can't one turn Judas, at least I haven't seen Khalipe, Yuki, Chizu, etc. do it. And that's just the 5*s, don't think 4*s stand a chance.
>>554349278The early potentials are pretty cheap so I'd get those first. You can skip the "common" potentials. When you farm fragments, I recommend focusing on the 2-pc sets for ATK%, CritDmg, and Basics. You can use those on almost everyone.
>>554349278Try to get and level a memory frag set for your main dps with correct main stats.That alone will make farming chaos for decks way easier.
Knowing you get unlimited retries on Tower makes me like it considerably more.Terrible localization strikes again. "Attempts" means successful 5-floor clears.
What's a good deck for Renoa?
>>554352106
Ok this tower boss was a bit hard.
Is this tower stuff permanent?
>>554353925No.It's a beta that will be reset at the end of season 2 including rewards.
Is there an infographic for Narja yet?
>>554347341>>554347341>>554347341>Luke>Khalipe>too busted....what?
>>554204897hmmm yea... whatever.
>>554356320Yes. Khalipe is a better AOE dps than Yuki and Luke is Mei Lin-tier, he just needs more set up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSD_s9qrlXk
which cards are always to be removed at hers while deck-farming?which epiphanies should i go for? which cards to copy? got rinpilled recently, wanna have something good for her.
>>554343612Late reply, but cycucks watered down the general game plan to "just fire your OTK, bwo" on the very first card set.
how to fix this game in 1 simple step>delete nia, veronica and cassius
>>554356826this is an irrelevant meme combo. any combatant would beat kentris with a deck this built, what difference does it make?khalipe is not le busted, yuki is just complete steaming trash. nobody was bringing khalipe to lab0 diff11 because she's literally an average unit.
Remember when /czn/ actually thought Khalipe had good damage?
>>554358032In a vacuum I agree, but compared to the 3 first banners, which the op was referring to, these standard units did the job better and that's why there was no reason to pull on those/why they're considered bad.
>>554204897beluga-sama...have mercy
Need to glaze Narjas tits
need narja nursing handjob
Did Narja kill or save the game?
>>554357175Shield oneTry to get the Move 2 epiphany and you decide other epiphanies around it like the one her sword will reduce cost of all her cards by 1 to spamAlternatively the Draw 2 epiphany doesn’t have “of Rin” written in it but draws specifically 2 of her own. It is inferior to Move 2 that can even bring from the Discard pile but it can include Forbidden Cards or extra cards you added like the 9-cost 4-hit forbidden card that loses cost by drawing.Depends on your luck though. I’d wait a week for them to change the epiphany system
>>554204897None of these are true
>>554360618neither
narja did not kill the game but her patch did
>>554360618the simulations change + one chaos per week change has made it a comfortable bonsaige for the next three weeks.
Does Narja know sex?
>>554362198in a biological sense, yes.in one of her excursions she talks about how all of the experiments were injected with a vast amount of scientific knowledge, so that they could be useful around the lab.she also mentions that was her ONLY source of knowledge and experience. she has very little awareness of anything that isn't strictly biology, genetics, or spooky chaosology.sex for anything other than procreation is likely a completely foreign concept to her.
>>554360741alright, thanks for your reply, anon.have this amir.
>>554362896FACT: Narja is our first loli combatant.
Am I stupid, why can't I select this? I've already cleared everything in the "correct" route
>>554364261Go a step back to the node with the previous decision
>>554363737>2 year old hag>800 year old loliPick one and only oneThe other one is forbidden in 2026
>>554363737this... this explains my desire to protect and cuddle...
>>554362896>>554363737so she's the opposite of emeralda?
>>554364718the opposite of emeralda is rubya
Is there a point to doing chaos when there's no event going?
>>554367225the save data can still be used for non-seasonal contentyou can get memory fragments, chaos orbs, dellang thingiesmaybe you can even enjoy it
>>554367225arkhianon weeklies mostly. i'm trying to max explore all the planets personally. other than that? no.
>>554368028I avoided maxing most of the planets so as not to dilute my card/equipment pool.
how do I stop being disappointed when I see nothing new posted for czn on boorus...
Chaos is a ladder...
Is it me or Narja trauma story was pretty cool. Too bad the bad ends just end instantly, but it was pretty nice.
>>554369749It's just you>>554239486>>554279493
For Khalipe last potential does she need 700 ATK and 300 Def or she only need one of them?
>>554370653She needs 700 attack but it isn't worth it.
>>554370896Why not 300 Def?
>>554369352that's dumb
>>554371296You're dumb
How has everyone built Narja? I've heard she can do it all.
>>554372229All except stress healing. Defense%/Crit Dmg/Atk% (for lack of a better 2-piece).
>make a game where enemies do insane damage>Have only 1 character in charge of healing>Everyone else is dpsAre these devs stupid?
