I thought I was free..

YAY PEPTOBISMOL

Sangen love

>>555288210
Late but I'd say the """problem""" if there's one is that most of the people in there share pretty much the same general board taste and will all mostly nod at the shit crimson and blinky says. There's no real heel in it.

Two of the biggest fanbases in the cup in /vt/ and /mlp/ are constantly being shat on there with no pushback or reason to tune in.
That doesn't mean that it should stop mind you, but for example for all the times that Blinkyy keeps laughing at /mlp/ (he really seems more obsessed about /mlp/ than the others) they still have three stars, and /a/ one. And Blinky's tenure is still one of the worst in management history. It could be nice if there's someone to banter back at him sometimes, but that'll never happen.

i'm gonna pay you twenty (You)s to make /vip/ team real

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VGL!

can some admin please remove /vt/ from the wiki frontpage?

>>555290795
no one can remove the rape from you

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>>555278325
wanna play together?

>>555290652
>And Blinky's tenure is still one of the worst in management history. It could be nice if there's someone to banter back at him sometimes, but that'll never happen.
Yeah, it does feel like he gets let off way too much for that dogshit era from /admin/ and /comfy/. It was noticeable during the /a/ - /bant/ game when he was attacking the current management and then again during FB.

>>555277395
tbdesu Autumn was legitimately more fun than Spring. but I think babbies in general are more fun than elites at the moment.

I'd like to say that >>555291017 is not one of us, so we'll be moving on regardless.

>>555290990
maybe...

>>555291126
>than Spring
than Winter I mean. though it will probably also be more fun than the 3rd cup on 15.

First Bant when?

>>555291126
As I said, your first cup on 15 after a long time. Of course, you are going to have a sense of novelty and such. But as you can see, that doesn't last for long because 15 hasn't much to offer.

>>555291048
For me it is that /bant/ used to be a white whale for him, which is something that could be said about any team that he was facing at the time.
>>555291272
I genuinely don't see any change from Autumn to Winter, Autumn wasn't amazing and Winter isn't terrible. The triangle passing was there too, if anything there are more games where the keeper feels like a factor and that's maybe because we got more teams trying the same kind of offense, wouldn't know.

First Fap when?

Proposal: Replace First Boom guys with ASS guys
Problem: ASS guys only watch /vg/
Solution: Making up shit about each game is funnier than First Boom anyways

>>555290608
total trangen death
>>555290652
> /vt/ and /mlp/
I cant even pretend to care about blinky but /vt/ and /mlp/ are containment boards so any hate is deserved so its up to them to change the mind of ppl

>>555291649
Live from Croatia

>>555291203
modded or unmodded?

>>555291813
ASS won't even look at exports and i suspect not even the games and they still make narratives or bullshit to argue about. That's fun desu, feels like genuine sports tv slop. It only sucks when they start bringing up namefags or something and some tangents that are stupid.

>>555291823
>any hate is deserved so its up to them to change the mind of ppl
When the "ppl" in question are already dead set anyway, is it even worth the effort?

>>555291967
>when it's time for Beebs to go on a 3-minute tangent about the topic they were very clearly wrapping up on
The worst part every single time

>>555292001
Yes now I dont hate /mlp/ as much and would root for them against a few boards

>>555290652
>(he really seems more obsessed about /mlp/ than the others)
Whats up with that? I started to notice it by day 3 when he kept bringing them up. It feels like Crimson cares more about /vt/ and Blinky /mlp/.

>>555292001
It's not, if you hate horsefuckers just because they're horsefuckers then literally nothing is gonna change that. This applies to most of the "disliked" teams.

>>555291823
They would need to get Cipher or someone who likes /vt/ or a pony fucker otherwise it wouldn't be genuine. I think not liking some teams is fine, but crying about some teams because they aren't original or they copied their export or whatever comes off as just petty and nobody really cares about these things other than Crimson.

I am the keky of my pow

>>555292001
Case in point, in Summer /mlp/ put in probably the most elaborate hype I've seen, kept the jokes focused on 4cc and not their own shit, and still got roundly shat on for it by the usual suspects.

UNLIMITED KEKYPOWS.

>>555291882
either is fine

>>555292738
lmao dude their hyp was unbelievable levels of self-sucking AND it caused cup delays almost every day

>>555293061
Yeah most people hated those not only FB.

First Sangenshoku Club when?

>>555292738
I'm pretty sure literally everyone except /mlp/ hated those.

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>>555292929
I actually pussied out because the only thing I know about multiplayer is >aternos

>>555293141
You are obsessed with a tranny.

>>555292586
>crying about some teams because they aren't original or they copied their export
I agree
>>555292738
Confusing hype with spam makes you sound raped beyond belief

>>555293061
The delays were never because of the hype, do people really believed this?

>>555293141
After the Trangenshoku Club closes down postmortem.

>>555293141
We all belong to it already

>>555293329
More like the delays weren't because of /mlp/, Potato was going through it that month.

>>555293285
...

>>555292586
Note is an important part of Admin and never shows up for these, I wonder why he doesn't feel welcome...

>>555293758
He lives on a higher plane of circlejerking and would not deign to dignify FB with his presence

>>555293329
They'll grab onto any excuse they can to have a big seethe at /mlp/ no matter how many times it gets corrected.

>>555293232
nta but what's wrong with aternos servers?

>>555292738
More interestingly, have people complained about how basic the current wipe is yet after shitting on /mlp/'s all Summer? All /sp/ has right now is /4ccspn/ (which is great), but I guess they get a pass for that since they're such a small market.

>>555294157
yes, Crimson shat hard on the wipe but here the wipe is literally just "logo moving right to left" at least the twin towers had an animation. Where's Crimson for this?

Is it melty hours again

>again

>>555294323
afaik potato's been very sick so far this year which has impacted things like this

>>555290652
The funny thing is, I genuinely think /vt/ could've ended week 1 with at least 4 points. /his/ game was a shitshow that could've gone either way and people didn't realize how much of a fluke the /bant/ game was because LOL PEPTOBISMOL.
So you could craft a narrative about it, how their export maybe isn't as bad as 0 points relegated day 3, and you could still end it with "but it's /vt/ so it's funny". But they didn't do that because they're going full ASS this season and didn't even look at exports. And there's a lot of dumb shit in /vt/'s export to talk about

>>555294157
that was because the logo was shit but then /mlp/ came and said, we chose this because it will fit the swipe so well, and then the swipe came out and it was a fucking powerpoint tier swipe

Now it turns out that scoring less goals than your rival means losing. Losing is getting dominated, not winning does not equal losing

>>555294748
>alot of dumb shit in /vt/'s export
Like what?

>>555294748
>But they didn't do that because they're going full ASS this season and didn't even look at exports
are they dumb, that only works for ASS because they're funny

>>555294849
That's not what anyone said in Autumn

>>555294698
Yes, but then you should encourage people who tries to do the work that generaly rely on a single autists, the way /mlp/ did, not shit on it the way he did.
That''s also why I hate some of the manager shitting/mocking that they keep doing, especially when Blinky does it.

>>555295050
For example they forgot to remove goal poacher from the Rat when moving her to CB, so they have a poacher in the backline

>>555295103
>are they dumb
If you need to ask...

>>555294748
Looking at their export it doesn't look that wild? Goal poachers, a hole player, b2b, some other teams use this too. What am I missing?
There are some "blank" players with poacher and creative playing styles but I assume they are meant to be emergency out of position replacements or a meme, it's like destroyer Rance, they are just blank for the game.

>>555295286
They always give CBs striker playstyles.

>>555295428
Do they? Damn, I really hoped it was a case of a demoted gold they left the playstyle for

#BringBackPtA
Just revive Cyclo and Ugoy, it'll fix everything, trust

>>555293232
hop on vglcraft

>>555295115
That's why people think FB is a net negative for the cup, they exist to shit on newfags and discourage people trying things that aren't up to the lofty standards of Crimson (lmao) and Blinky (double lmao)

>>555296339
vglcraft is ded tho

It's time for VGLCiv

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>>555296339
The bloom...

>>555295286
That’s just blank CB which is the normal.
It’s like how Rance has been Destroyer or Offensive GK before.

>>555296464
>>555296807
>he doesn't know about the new ip

>>555296639
Back when /vst/ was first made people had the idea of a 4chan-themed Civ5 as a successor to the decade+ 4chan-themed Civ4 mod. The idea lasted about a week before it became clear nobody was willing to BEE.

>>555297342
Isn't Sangen BEEing now for something like that?

>>555297420
Proof of work (or at least proof of concept) or this dies as just yet another idea.

>>555297420
No, and neither is trangen

>>555297276
Life do be like that sometimes, I like minecraft.

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>>555289908
RIGGING
REF BALL
WRONG PRESET
MISSED TIMEOUT
AND EVEN CRASHES
THERE'S PEPTO BISMOL
YAY PEPTO BISMOL

>>555298342
hello Sou, thoughts on this post?: >>555290652

>>555298342
DIVEGRASS' BACK BABY

>>555298342
>>555299095
Or at least this post >>555296375

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Fitgirl for 21 isn't working, the other torrent link doesn't work, I won't touch the >MEGA one, and the one from drive doesn't have shit

>>555300234
Only install the game from fitgirl, deselect the add on drivers.

>>555294748
this sounds like a lot of coping that /vt/ has only been bailed out by how generationally bad /gd/ is otherwise /vt/ would be heading for a spoon

>>555300884
/a/ will throw regardless

>>555300509
thanks KWABoba

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>>555299095
>>555299729
I'd have more thoughts on it if I honestly cared about the post-show more. I always viewed the post show as the responsibility of the people hosting it. I know I've hosted FB a few times but there's a reason why it's only a been a few times. After a cup day I'm fucking bushed. Im sure niggas have popped into the commentary booth before to try to wake my ass up to leave the chat and have heard me snore. The end of a matchday is like clocking out an industrial job to me. The whistle blew, that's it. The brain capacity for memeball had been reached and I'm done for the day. Niggas are going to shit on teams, and /mlp/ and /vt/ especially. Hell I never finished better than 8th in an elite cup and I'll still shit on /mlp/, three stars or not. All these years after /vt/ was added and I'm still feeling like I'm barely giving them a fair shake but that's because I can't see the board as anything but a fucking safari. You can't understand the /vt/ culture without following a V-tuber and having a twitter account. I have done neither. Granted that's changed quite significantly now since the hack, but it still feels pretty tribal to me. To get back on track though, to me at least it feels like this is where the old heads and young bloods buck heads the most though, that much I'll acknowledge. Because I think the shit talking culture has vastly changed as a result of more people coming up through the internet by way of Twitter and other forms of social media that arent as crusty as we are. And I feel like thats where this divide is, because I feel like a nigga from this era of internet is a lot more likely to take the shit talk personally than someone from yesteryear. It's why I keep posting Bitch Niggaz as my advice to people when it comes to dealing with niggas saying shit. The only time niggas should give a fuck about what's said on First Bait is during the Q&A because that's honestly as serious as any one of us will take First Bait, myself included.

>>555301367
Why would /a/ throw? They might not care but there is no reason to throw

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>>555301781
Hey G, can you make me a sandwich

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>>555302269
Here you go dawg.

>>555301781
Also, have you been thinking of what Spring 26's ruleset will be? will the plug be pulled early on 15 due to souring sentiment (regardless if people are arguing it's because certain teams admin likes not doing well or not) on it?

I assumed that pretty much every long term manager had an elite top four at some point

>>555303219
>poly dying in the distance

>>555303219
that's a pretty dumb assumption

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>>555302678
Contrary to current sentiments, I feel abandoning 15 right now is the extreme option and we haven't exactly exhausted our options with 15 despite what people may believe. We went back on a familiar rule set and we've gotten quite the refresher on what we're working with, so now is the time to see what values we can slide up and down to try and get a better experience out of 15. I don't think Stat Autism is going to completely do away with the back passing but I think it can help alleviate some of the pressing issues CBs and CMFs have that people have enthusiastically highlighted. Marco has already offered to go into dt18 to see what he can do but I dont think that's going to bare fruit anytime soon, and I also think that if we do go into dt18 we're likely going to end up several new issues once those players realize what pressing is.

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>>555303464
>pes 15 patches

>>555303464
I don't think that 5 medals and stat autism might fix a lot honestly.

>>555303464
You can't fix with patches or rules something that is a core problem of the game.

>>555303464
Will you (or /admin/ in general it's a big change) ever give consideration to either returning to PES changes coinciding with elites, or merging babbies/elites and just having 48 team cups?

>>555303464
You're trying to fix something that's certainly beyond fixing, and even if it can be brought to a workable state, people are gonna keep pointing out the '15 quirks.
You're fucked either way and you should REALLY consider pulling the plug earlier. You had fun with the Babby but the Elite is definitely not fun.

>>555301473
No problem, retard-kun

>>555301781
I mean, most likely people who gets bothered by FB are just not going to show up. I am in the same sentiment but I also think this leads a bit to survivor syndrome where the few people left are already part of the circlejerk. It's hard then to have all those calls for BE when we're fewer and fewer and so hostile to new blood and big markets.

If VGL25 showed 17 can be ruined by a bad ruleset, surely 15 can be fixed with a good ruleset.

>>555303825
VGL25 wasn't the first one to show that, the very first PES17 cups showed it. It's a very moody PES.

>>555303464
I think another issue people have highlighted is that it's not that 15 keepers are necessarily good, It's that 15 Strikers often just shoot really bad shots that 8 times out of 10 shoot directly into the keeper so they become really easy saves, So perhaps Keeper nerfs aren't something that should be considered.

bros, hear me out.
let Autumn be in 15 and then change it for the elites, that way the elites will ALWAYS be the new pes and the babbys will run the "solved" versions, this will make the elites fresh and the babbys as the opportunity to climb back

>>555303825
if a ruleset kills the objectively boring tactic then it's good.

>>555304123
>autumn
I mean't spring

The whole thing about 15 that's fucked is that the strikers will give GKs the easiest saves, but if they didn't we'd have stupid scorelines constantly like 8-1, 6-4, etc.
It's a case of the defense being completely broken, even worse than 16.

>>555303958
Yeah but that would be admitting there are 0 fixes to the situation because those strikers are 99 rated and can't get any better

>>555303958
Keepers are still plagued by that issue where they take 5-10 seconds to register that a shot is incoming or outright not contesting them at all. Nearly every shot right now is either an easy save due to the aforementioned Striker shooting issue or a guaranteed goal.

>>555303464
Rulesets need to be tested out if we're going to be stat tweaking nonmedals and potentially the keepers. Due to how much this pes relies on defender spaghetti for goals and the strikers being incapable of scoring from certain angles since they blast the keeper every time, if you just buff defense I fear we may end up with another spring 19.

>>555295286
>>555295407
I did that on purpose so I could throw her into a game that didn't matter and see if she could actually score. It is also a homage to her past duties as a striker.

>>555305512
Well good news, you've got a game that doesn't matter.

>>555304504
The problem is that sometimes with stats you can't do a whole lot honestly. Some stuff are not going to change.

>>555305243
>Rulesets need to be tested out
yes sir that's why we have babbies baby hooah

>>555303697
One of the great features of switching PES versions and rulesets at the babbies is that every team has the ability to reach a star with any ruleset. If you are hot shit who has figured out the ruleset hard enough to win the championship with it, you can; you may have a fetus babby and elite to climb, but you can ride your brilliance all the way to a star under the same ruleset, no matter where you ended your last run. If we switch rulesets at elites instead, then someone who failed to promote from the most recent babbies can win a babby with their brilliance, and then be unable to win the star when the ruleset changes again for the following elites. Unless we commit to always running any ruleset for a full year, which seems like a mistake for other reasons. Finding the magic solution to PES18 in the babbies and then being unable to prove it in the elites would suuuuuck.

>>555306836
>One of the great features of switching PES versions and rulesets at the babbies is that every team has the ability to reach a star with any ruleset
this is always true what the fuck are you talking about. fucks sake the only time in the cup's history that a team won a babby and elite back-to-back was back when PES versions debuted with elites.

/mrg/ should join the VGL
they would be a team with very good vibes

me when I'm a merc and want to resurrect/create teams to blowout the signups

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>>555307239

>>555303464
>Marco has already offered to go into dt18 to see what he can do but I dont think that's going to bare fruit anytime soon, and I also think that if we do go into dt18
Can someone explain what this is

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>>555307239

>>555307524
Marco has offered to patch PES15

>>555307115
No. Imagine that we switch to pes16 this summer, and to pes17 next winter. And imagine /myteam/ eats shit at pes15 this spring, but I am god's gift to pes16. /myteam/ will not play in summer, because I failed to qualify from the pes15 spring babbies. Instead /myteam/ plays in autumn. I am the undisputed king of pes16 and take my team to a babby win in autumn; /myteam/ then plays in winter, but winter will be pes17. So I cannot convert my pes16 brilliance into a star for /myteam/, because of my pes15 incompetence. If instead we switch pes versions at the babbies, this can never happen.

>>555307571
He is just going to change a bunch of shit nobody asked for again it's going to be terrible.

>>555307612
why are your PES cycles so short?

>>555307761
As I said in >>555306836, we can avoid this problem by always committing to a pes version *and ruleset* for a full year, but that seems like a mistake for other reasons; we generally switch up some aspect of the rules every season already. Guaranteeing this path to a star with every ruleset would make the rulesets move much more slowly, which causes other problems.

>>555307612
It's happened before with 16 to 17 in Winter 17 then 17 to 16 in Winter 19 and everyone loves those cups still.

>>555307913
I feel like I'm talking to the most confusing person in the world. PES cycles now are 2 elites and 2 babbies, this doesn't change if elites are the first to change a PES.

>>555307612
People who are good at one pes version tend to be good at the others. The only people who would be negatively affected in you scenario are people who are lazy and want to keep sending their one good export they happen to have. Also, as much as we like to kayfabe, there is no such thing as the "undisputed king of pes16" because pes at it's core is akin to a card game more than chess (obviously).

>>555307524

looking at files like this and guessing what changing numbers might do

/// @class auto
{
// 未来座標フレーム
"future" : 30,

// シュートずれ台形閾値
"outTrapezoid0" : 90.0,
"outTrapezoid1" : 10.0,

// シュートずれ最大角度
"outAngle" : 15.0,

// チップキック閾値(距離/メートル)
"chipThreshold0" : 0.0,
"chipThreshold1" : 8.0,

// シュート方向とみなす角度差
"loopAngleSub" : 30.0,


// ループシュート基本速度
"loopSpeed" : 50.0,

// ループシュート最大加算速度
"loopSpeedDelta" : 50.0,

// ループシュート基本仰角
"loopElevation" : 20.0,

// ループシュート最大加算仰角
"loopElevationDelta" : 30.0,

// ループシュート基本スピン
"loopSpin" : -1.0,

// ループシュート最大加算スピン
"loopSpinDelta" : -3.0,


// チップキック基本速度
"chipSpeed" : 35.0,

// チップキック最大加算速度
"chipSpeedDelta" : 50.0,

// チップキック基本仰角
"chipElevation" : 18.0,

// チップキック最大加算仰角
"chipElevationDelta" : 12.0,

// チップキック基本スピン
"chipSpin" : 0.0,

// チップキック最大加算スピン
"chipSpinDelta" : -2.0,


// 股抜きシュート基本速度
"nutmegSpeed" : 50.0,

// 股抜きシュート最大加算速度
"nutmegSpeedDelta" : 50.0
}

What's the full link to the /his/ /vt/ hyp videos? All that's on the replay are the shortened links.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/…/HIS_vs_VT_hype.mp4

>>555307571
>>555307687
Read further:
> I dont think that's going to bare fruit anytime soon,
Translation: There's probably not going to be any pasta patch within a reasonable time frame he even said the following to me in the same conversation
>I may try if I feel like it but it's not as simple as any other pes version, the usual dt18 structure isn't there yet
Which can easily be translated as "probably not going to happen." I couldn't elaborate further in the other post because I hit 2000 characters in it.

>>555308503
we out here trapezoiding?

>>555308503
We NEED nutmegSpeed 1,000,000

>>555308070
Mostly yes, though the recent grim pes16 reminder was 1 elite 1 babby. But rulesets are not, and everything I said applies just as well to rulesets. If we run 1 elite 1 babby under a ruleset that allows for stat boosted turbosilvers, a team that figures out how to exploit the fuck out of that system should be able to turn that into a star. And I really don't think we want to commit to running rules like I-can't-believe-they're-not-golds for a full year.

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>>555308640
Weedman Weedman
What do I do if I want to manage /ic/?

>>555308640
here is potato fresh idea, allow changing player playstyle in nightly, only that, cards, position, etc need to stay same as usual

>>555308932
1: Make a thread on /ic/ asking if they want to rejoin the cup
2: Get a dozen replies of fuck off
3: Submit it to Sou as PoI
4: You are now a manager!

>>555303464
>Marco has already offered to go into dt18
based, embrace the patches

>>555309031
No

>>555308551
The pregame hype
https://mega.nz/file/UvRD0LJL#m9N5U_gOtib30kQe25_gcAvfPkmV5Fo9U-wNoWFxXBY

>>555308503
Translating the japanese text basically this is mostly how shot values are set in the game.

>>555308759
Honestly, I think at this point, even though it might a huge pain to manage, to spice everything up you need to have 4 different pes editions for each cup. So, for example, Winter is on 15. Okay, Spring will be on 19, then Summer on 21, then Autumn on 16.

>>555309265
>Winter is on 15. Okay, Spring will be on 19, then Summer on 21, then Autumn on 16.
/aesco/ will kill itself and we will finally be free.