Priest Edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Might and Magic, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, Solasta, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, Ultima, Underrail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.pngPrevious >>555260681>Thread QuestionDo you always have a preist/cleric in you party?
>>555367629I appreciated how flirty she was without going full coomer.
>>555367629>no bidetyou are a coward and probably stink too
RPG devs who don't include romance in their games should go bankrupt and their anti-fanslop consuming fans should be chased out of every RPG discussion forum.
first for playing POE for the first time, should i write my thoughts when i play? seems like there is a whole bunch of lore in it
This is the second thread with a 210x330 portrait in a row you're getting lazy
>>555367629>TQOn the tabletop I'm usually the priest/clericI don't usually feel like I need one in CRPGs though
>go to a friendly party put together by the fat quatermaster>end up fighting a god>he instagibs my entire party in the first roundcool encounter design as always owlcat
Where is the bidet!!!!!
I am deliberately avoiding adding romance in my CRPG, while making all of the characters highly smoochable
>>555367629>TQI'm him. It's me. I'm that nigga
>>555367629>Do you always have a preist/cleric in you party?>preist>you partyPROOFREAD YOUR QUESTION MOTHERFUCKER
>>555367789go for it but do NOT talk to the yellow nameplatesthey are all irrelevant kickstarter donut steels
>>555367629>Do you always have a preist/cleric in you party?yeah my healer buffsissy
I love Leliana
>>555368091so they don't add anything meaningful/don't give items? they're just there for people who paid for it?
>>555368191man, Origins was always so fucking ugly
>>555368197Pretty much yeah. They're just backer NPCs who are just endless texts of backstory of said backer's OC.
>>555368197kill them and take their items
Is there a point to playing poe2 without playing 1?
xth for leliana>>555368191nicelove seeing the lotr ghost get some love too
>>555368436I mean you could but it's literally a direct sequel.
>>555368436i'd strongly recommend playing poe if you care about the story in games at all.
>anti AI schizos want to convince me this looks badblue girls are the best btw
>>555368436Deadfire has better combat mechanics. So if you don't care about the story or roleplaying at all and just want a series of combat encounters and excuse to build characters that's a way to go. But if you care at all about the story, play PoE1 first.
>>555368665she has 3 charisma and doesn't look like that
For me it's Dawn Star
>>555368665The hair is wrong though
>>555368665very generic, I don't like italso wendog should be cugly
>>555368665man, i don't know what it is, but when i know something is AI it just looks horrible to me
>>555368749>35
>>555368751Jade Empire has romance but no one cares about it, why
>>555368665terrible lighting and values, generalized body and face proportionsPersonally I don't care that you love eating shit, we are all frens here
But now that I think about it. What reasons do devs have not to add romance to a RPG? It's a roleplaying option, most fans love it, it boosts popularity among normies. I get time and money constraints, but even those should pump it up to be a higher priority.
>>555368665>what if I turned a canonically ugly mongrel into a playboy modelYou don't love her
Assault on Drezen is going well, feels like joining the Hellknight flanking assault was the right move since I haven't had to assault a single gate yet.
>>555368665it does look bad and nothing like wendog
>>555368920jade empire was one of my favorite games on xbox
>>555369141are you a paladin of erastil?
>>555368920I mean nobody cares for Jade Empire in general. And the romance was peak player indulgence. As a male character with high persuasion you can have a threesome with both female love interests (who happen to be cousins). Us Sawyerchads despise that sort of romance.
>>555368920it was unironically ahead of its timemost of bioware's audience could not understand the incomprehensible kung fu orientalism
>>555368665Character looks fine but not like Wenduag, background looks like usual AI slop. Model/prompts have potential but maybe not for a non-standard design like her.
>>555368969
>>555368969dumb writers
>>555369379>>555369251inshallah we shall cut the head of sawyer and his followers
>>555369215Nah, but I did play an Erastil Fighter in Kingmaker with that portrait. Going Oracle/Angel I think.
>>555368751I liked pushing her towards being more ruthless and then taking over and ruling the empire together. Peak childhood friend ending.
>>555368665Which AI?
>>555368969Malice.But we can't have that convo here.
I want historical CRPGs
>>555368665yes, wenduag looks badnot even good for a monstergirl
>>555368191As a gingermuncher, I concur.
>>555369624Expeditions
>>555368969>it boosts popularity among normies>time and money constraints>higher priorityYou talk like a suit.
>>555369379I always found this quote funny because Sawyer has zero issue engaging in "shallow masturbatory fantasies" for your companions. Letting them have relationships with each other or other NPCs and then giving them a happily ever after ending where they in his own words "win" everything. He seems to only have an issue with the player character engaging in any sort of fantasy whether it be a power fantasy or a romantic one. I wonder why?
>>555368665It could look amazing and it'd still be worthless dogshit.
>daily Sawyer melty from romancetards
>>555369760Not enough
>>555369869What's it like being functionally illiterate?
>>555369872why?
Sawyer is a fucking failure who has done nothing be release flop after flop. Anybody who unironically agrees with him on anything should never touch a CRPG again.
>>555368751i played jade empire when i was a kid, i feel so old now...
>>555368969Because to make romance truly fun and interesting it should be developed and polished on the scope as the rest of the game. Spanning through majority of the story, integrated heavily into main plot. Pretty much a dedicated VN tier. And players would want a variety and choice in partners, so that's like at least 3 characters.All that for a very miniscule amount of people who buy your CRPG for romance specifically. And some players would be pissed that it took so much of dev time from actual gameplay and other quests and characters. Imagine the shitstorms would happen if romance time and effort isn't perfectly balanced between said romances.Game can be a good CRPG with cheeky small fun romances as a side content. Or a romance game with a minigame CRPG. Not both.
>>555370121>Because to make romance truly fun and interesting it should be developed and polished on the scope as the rest of the game. Spanning through majority of the story, integrated heavily into main plot. Pretty much a dedicated VN tier. And players would want a variety and choice in partners, so that's like at least 3 characters.This statement can and should apply even to platonic relationships though so why can't they at least do that for it?
>Get your cock out and do something useful
She can't hold her holy sword? Is it really because she's crippled, or is the wince of pain because she's actually a demon in disguise or corrupted by the Abyss now?I'm nooticing...
>Sawyer's last crpg was poe2>poe2 was 8 years agoHOW did Sawyer break romancefags so much
We need incest romances
>>555369869I can't be masturbatory "everything needs to revolve around me" if it happens to others. X and Y liking each other is just a story. A, B, C, D, E all liking the PC is masturbatory.
>>555370326i don't know why but just from this alone, i'll assume the holy sword damages the user overtime and she physically can't hold anything if her hand is "shriveled and mutilated"
>>555370214>should apply even to platonic relationships though so why can't they at least do that for it?They often do, it's why companions have their own questlines that you can influence
>>555370003Empty on demand Content will never have any value. It's just endless garbage tailored to you to make you a dumber consumer.
>>555370326Can't you still use the very same sword even if you're a CE fuckhead?
>>555370121>Game can be a good CRPG with cheeky small fun romances as a side contentWell this is what I meant, I don't expect devs to make a VN romance CRPG.In most cases the friendships and romances aren't that extensive. It would be nicer for a dev to add more scenes on average as sually romances are about a dozen dialogues, some small interjections during quests/camp + a few 2-3 big scenes.
>>555370528Probably, it's been depowered or something. But I might put that down as just gameplay story segregation seeing as you could also use Covenant of the Inheritor to turn all weapons Good aligned.
Would you say his services are overpriced?
>>555370712>10k gold>Not competent enough to double check his gear>Equipment is bog standard shitNo.
>>555370712I just saw him fall over like a garden gnome so probably
>>555370121"Romancefags" itt don't even want romance. They just want a couple lines of dialogue and an implied baby as an ending slide.
>>555370926it's crazy how your party takes him seriously as a badass after seeing this
>>555370971no, the baby needs to be explicit
>>555370607I'll re-state what I wrote before: I want romance to receive either less or more attention in games. Anything worth doing is worth doing well, especially when it's something with so much emotional potential.
>>555370324
Does using one of pre-made characters on Divinity OS 2 matter a lot?I'm starting up the game and it feels wrong to not make my own pc.
He's so cool..!
>>555370324As I'm playing WotR for the first time without any prior knowledge, she seems really slimy. She probably eats people.
>>555368759>>555368815>>555368819>>555368943>>555369193>>555369298>>555369872Gimme your patreons I might comission something from you faggots hahaha
>>555370712does anyone use this guy
visual novel with crpg elements
>>555371402me, mostly for the comic relief
>>555371325why does she act like a lobotomized downie
>>555371257>A lotSomewhat, they have their own exclusive plot threads and events not available to the others. Making your own PC actually has "less content".
>>555371376low quality shitpost
>>555371504coombrain is no joke
>>555370971this
>>555370214Side characters, platonic or romantic, always support and reinforce main narrative at most. If your side character plot becomes too involved it will compete or outright overtake the main story.Look at the movie Hancock. Its first half is about main character being terrible super hero. Then woman character appears. At first seemingly related to MC plot and character development, but ends up overshadowing it. The movie starts to awkwardly juggle their romance drama and Hancock original superhero plot by the end. Resolution feels unsatisfying, unrelated and weak. A lot of viewers rightfully got annoyed at that.A better integration example is Redline, which starts as a insane racing but turns into "love is your racing fuel". But the story and animation is so over the top that it doesn't matter and works well, plus there are a bunch of other racer characters so MCs love plot doesn't diminish from crazy cars that much. Still the pacing gets awkward at places because the story essentially double up, because of romance line and girl character competing with main guy for screen time.
>>555371504>has 21 charisma and the personality of a wet blanketOwlcat work in mysterious ways, Ember is clearly the most charismatic person in your retinue with Daeran coming in second place
>>555371709you'd guess her 21 charisma is geared towards her beauty but she also looks like a mouthbreathing retard
>>555368969Not all writers can write every scenario well. So if the writing team for the game isn't good for it, then it's better to skip than have cringy romances.That being said romances also attract the tumblr crowd, waifufag incel crowd, reddit schizo crowd and general coomers to your community. Some devs don't want that. I mean look at Owlkek's comment section, when future content is discussed most people spam about wanting waifus/husbandos or romancing Argenta. Feels like only the CRPGfag youtubers like Revan, Werglia etc. actually talk abbout game being too easy and needing a rebalance for at least higher difficulties and Revan pushed for them adding a new difficulty option that limits OP shit and adds some deffenses against alpha striking. But these are just a few content creators along with a few players who actually care for improving the gameplay among the fanbase that sticks around.
>>555371376so mad, imagine prompting that thingkys, my mimiga
>>555371870>Some devs don't want that.>Devs don't want playersNonsensical.
>>555369262>kung fu orientalismI think it would be appreciated today vs the early 2000s
>>555371984We should add gacha mechanics to crpgs, gacha being by far the most popular genre, what do you think of this idea
>>555368665Better than OG, ngl
>>555372196Thats what Kibellah was
>>555368665>spider>tailwhat
>>555372196Yes, because players play gachas for gachas. Of course, gacha players love gacha after all.
>>555371984They aren't the majority of players, just the most vocal and spammy. Most normal players play it, discuss the story and gameplay and then move on until next big patch or DLC(s).The waifucrowd stays and spams waifu/husbando fantasies and art. The only others that remain are autists like Revan who latch onto the game experiment with builds and other stuff & direhard 40Kfags who have no other similar 40K rpg
>>555370971>They just want a couple lines of dialogue and an implied baby as an ending slide.While I prefer something more that is enough to lift my opinion of an ending a little.I just like a conclusive line in the ending saying that the protagonist won't keep adventuring by himself until the day he dies.
would it have worked?
>>555372196This! The only thing that matters is how your game charts on steam.
Holy shit I just got the golden Argenta in my legendary lootbox
>>555372525>Deadbeat dad>BlackYeah sure
>>555372318I think she is mostly a chimera style creature, with a bunch of animal and demon parts. Spider legs are just the most prominent. It's more noticeable in og pnp art.
>>555372525>Valygar but worseSure I guess.
A crpg with actual romance would upset waifufags because their waifu would need to have some kind of disagreement with them or character flaw to create drama.
>>555368191>romanceembarrassing straight incel fantasy
>>555372912same energy
>>555372950Camellia does that
>>555372950>Romance>THERE HAS TO BE A MISUNDERSTANDING THOUGHI hate this romcom tier shit logic. Not saying that there isn't but the line of thinking shouldn't be "there should".
>>555372525depends on his BBC size
i will only romance characters that are not useless whores in a fantasy game made for coombait
>>555372318Spider-cat
>>555372912thats vin gasoline
When are the Cassia (Wedding Dress) and Jae (Summer) banners dropping?
I will only romance dragons
>>555373138A fucking hallmark movie would be too spicy for this dude.
we dont like wendaug here
>>555373123>>555373209CAMELLIA IS EVIL AND EATS PEOPLE
>>555373374correct,we LOVE Wendaug here!!
kibbles was the pay2win goth waifu who calls you master and has the golden child ending. she is the gacha option
i prefer my chimera cboy fagboy
>>555373404
>>555373374wifeduag...
>>555373404nobody is perfect
Am I to believe the demons are really THAT stupid? If they were so dumb to display it like that surely the Crusaders would have to be even dumber. If I were them I would've taken it to the Abyss or something.
can i SOMEHOW skip the whole beginning of wotr? i want to try a few characters but i so don't want to go through the same thing
>>555373254Aivu romance...
>>555373662Just go up there and take it bro, you've earned it.
>>555373662Yes. Demons are all pathetic losers. It's a consistent theme through the whole game.
>>555373780You can't
>>555373780Download some saved games at whatever chapter is available. One time I started my run at the mythic choice.
>>555372950See BG2
why cant i use my third post abilities?
>ask Sosiel to paint my portrait>now wants to be my husband
>>555373946>HEY SOSIEL YOU FRUITY NIGGA WANNA PAINT MY NUDE TOTALLY NAKED SEXY POSE TWERKING PORTRAIT WINK WINK I WANT TO FUCK YOUR ZESTY BLACK ASS BY THE WAY>anon thinks this dialogue option was non-romance
>>555373780No, quickstarting to a certain point is somehow arcane knowledge and they all want you to play the prologue every time.>>555373946Painting is a very lewd activity, you basically had sex.
>>555373946Only fags do that
>>555373946Contrary to popular belief, it's not mandatory to start sucking cock as soon as a guy says you look cute. We'll understand if you are touch starved tho, frogposter
>>555373886>>555374063i guess i'm staying with my uhh... sage sorcerer that's grumpy but also good...
Is "dwarves are lame and stupid" a consistent theme throughout the game? Do Russians just (justifiably) despise manlets? I can't imagine it's the latter when Regill is cool so far.
>>555373946daeran would never do this
>>555373780go to the random dungeon dlc thing to test characters
>>555373780>skipping the best part of the game
>>555374181>breaking the bro codewhat the fuckany real straight bro would immediate recognize the urgency of the situation and start sucking
>>555374263You're right. Daeran would ask for you two to have sex immediately and then someone should paint it.
>>555374397based dae
>>555368969Waifufags are subhumans and I wouldn't want them in my community if I was a developer.
>>555374397as a prank obviously
>>555374397Daeran will bang with KC right after Sosiel confesses his love to main character and will make Sosicuck draw his lovemaking.
>>555374852that's why you are not a developer
I get the same disgust from Camfags as I do when I see people defend obviously evil dog breeds like shitbulls who eat babiesCam is the shitbull of waifus
How the FUCK was I supposed to know that stargazing with a guy while they flirt with me and the narrator describes how we're about to have gay sex was gay? What the fuck is wrong with Larian?
>>555374852No, you want them in, but humiliate, troll and disappoint them at every turn. While promising more romance only to cancel it last second, due to lore and story reasons.
>>555375153>least butthurt Cam hater
>>555375162If you had guys show you magic tricks irl, you would have known instantly. Go out there and make some male friends, nerd.
>>555375153fact checking you, chud
>>555375153murder lizard way more handsome and cute than retard baby eating dog, fuck u
What's the difference between Cam murdering a few nobodies and you murdering thousands because you're always right and justified
>>555372525More people would hate him here, but we'd also get some sudden apologists for him
I found some sort of tiefling in WotR and let him out, promising he can join my party. I thought I would be able to change his stats around if I went to the dude who can respec your characters, but I can't choose the tiefling. Do I have to join a battle with him before I get to do it?
>>555375681He looks like he has sexual relations with Orin.
>>555375720She doesn't feel a thing, making the murders pointless.I, on the other hand, enjoyed every second of carnage, so it wasn't a waste.Shrimple
>>555375681>head bobbing'jeet coded
>>555375681only with hyper muscular dragonborns + huge cock/bulges mods
>>555375720she kinda enjoys it a bit too much
>>555374852based
>>555376079>licking her lips involuntarilyreally not beating the shitbull allegationsnot even human anymore, a dog obeying to its instinct
>>555376232well yea, all serial killers are slaves to their impulses and passions
>>555374852But we have confirmed developers that are waifufags, like Swen with Morrigan, those pair of Owlcat devs who love Tali and Todd being obsessed with catgirls?
Imagine bg3 with no romances
Why does she cause so much seething?
>>555373931>getting that close to the enemyidiotyou're supposed to kite and outmaneuver them while pelting them with torpedoes until they take a point of damage then spam warp powers until they blow upthat way you take 0 damage
>>555376232thats the evil alignment in general>lawful evil:400 page manifesto about how burning down the orphanage for children with cancer is the most tactical and optimal decision to make>chaotic evil:MURDER LOL BOTTOM TEXT
>>555376697can't romance her as a female PC = troon seethe
>Arue locking herself in jail because she feels horny>Greybor falling on his arse failing to kill DarrazandWho embarrassed themselves more?
>>555376818>not even a promptyou're getting lazy
>>555376697her "fanbase" does, character is fine
>>555376818Yet Morrigan, Cassia and Tali have nowhere near the same level of seethe. The only one who seems to be close is Jack from Mass Effect. Her not being available to Femshep causes reddit troons to seethe nearly every day even in 2026.
can i rape lann as a male character
>>555376818only men like cam though
>>555377053Morrigan and Cassia get quite a lot of seethe for catering to male fantasy or something
>>555377053>The only one who seems to be close is Jack from Mass EffectReally? I thought only no gay Garrus made people mad. Can't remember women talking about lack of Jack ever, mb my info is out of date.
>>555377084no he's super straight
>>555377407=(
level 16 wizard wrecking my ass, god damn 40AC
>>555377084Are there any crpg that allow player to rape NPCs?
>>555377407so is spaghetti...
if I ask a character to not be in my party in WOTR, are they going to stay in the tavern? or I won't be able to recruit them again? I want an all female teamI just finished the prologue part
>>555377519if Sosiel has Guarded Hearth, that fight would be a good time to use it
>>555377378>Can't remember women talking about lack of Jack>womenWell there's your problem. Actual women who plays these sorts of games don't care about female romances, they only care about male romances. The ones complaining are trannies who play as women and just want to fuel their lesbian fetish.
>>555376769That's why neutral evil best evil
>>555377703Most fellow girls are actually secret lesbians, it's not just us transgirls.
The little side quests in Vikings are kind of fun. From murdering a bunch of kids for squatting on some guy's property to crashing a wedding party and robbing everyone.
>>555367901>Only time the drunkard retard god shows up in wordlwound is to spoil your party Cayden Gaylean is personally responsible for fact I had to imagine entirely different epilogue for my Angel -> legend (blind) first playthrough commander. There is no world where an aged veteran bard that has seen fourth crusade is going to let this amount chaotiKEKery slide.
>us transgirls
>>555377990Røskva isn't cute....
>>55537813780% of 4chan is faggots and transexuals, you are the minority
>>555378190The portrait is unflattering, actually all the portraits are. But she is a certified qt.
>>555378331i think it's a nice portrait, though she looks like she was surprised
>>555377519You deserve it for using modded party
>>555378137>using arue for this responsedon't make me dig up her conversation with daeran
>>555378674do it...
Just found out Dispelling Attack scales with character level not class level. Meaning my legend with 11 attacks per round is smacking of high level buffs off of Demonkeks like nothing.
>>555378674????
Finally a reason to turn off turn-based mode>>555378591Don't worry, I've set the difficulty to Core to account for it at least somewhat since it's my first time playing.
I like playing clericsI like being a cute tiefling or elfI like cute outfits and hair modsI like reading fanfiction
>>555378721eh sneak attacks are a meme in late game. any actual tough enemy is immune to them. but legends get plenty of feats so all the advanced slayer talents are nice to have.
>>555378137
what's a good melee build in wotr, i want to hit hard and kill everyone!!!
>>555379102are you a real girl?
>>555379345can they even cross breed?
>>555379569yes, arue can easily regenerate her massive barbed demon futa cock
why do trannies fetishize lesbians so much
>>555379569In /u/ we trust
>>555379750not crpgs
>>555376741>spam warp powers until they blow upnigga i cant even though the bar is full, nor can my pc use his
>>555379750because they are still men who are attracted to women
>>555379713>>555379774I don't even wanna know the species of their demonic offspring
>>555380080Play the game
>>555379434Im no builder but I did bloodrager with demon. its been pretty fun
>>555380153I have to finish Rogue Trader first, that will take some time
>>555375153Cam is great in that she reveals how pathetic some men are. Not only are they going rock hard for a genderbent version of Myron from Fallout 2, they don't even realize how emberassing it is.
>>555379345>>555379774I appreciate how the artist gave Arue a more feminine face, curvier proportions, and different nails. Most artists don't bother differentiating girls like that. All attractive girls have one set of features.
>>555380453Cam's not even popular with the majority of men. They hop on Arue albooboo
>I couldn't touch my sword but I easily shank a high AC demon trust me bro I'm totally YanielYeah I'm not buying it
>>555380789Are those horns apart of your helm
>>555381060yeah, I also sloppa'd up some variants with wings and halos etc to switch to later on
>>555377053>MorriganI mean someone seethed enough about her to retcon her romance, child, personality and made the #1 romance for straight men into someone infamous for sleeping around.
>>555381267Context? Is that DA4 lore?
Vordakai and Ravenby
>>555381238cool art
>>555381517Why does KM look so much more soulful in its visual design that WotR or RT?
>>555381505>Is that DA4 lore?Yes
>>555377519>not fighting the summoned megademon
>>555381740it doesn't
>>555381060"Apart" and "a part" mean two different things. >>555381740Because you're a contrarian and "soulful" is just a meaningless buzzword
>>555381759what?
>>555381926If you let them finish the ritual they summon the achievement demon.
>>555381740colors used and ui being worn pages instead of purple and white
Oh, the other one was a fake. I didn't even suspect anything so I guess I'm the idiot here. I would've moved it outside the fortress if I was the demons though. I didn't fall for the fake mostly because I went to explore every corner before going to it. >>555382068Huh, I just walked in the room and the combat started. Is the demon stronger than the level 16 wizard?
>>555382068is it hard to kill?
>>555381517what game is this
>>555382190I'd consider it the easiest secret boss.
What's the best Regill build?
>>555382559titan fighter/hellknight with double glaives
>>555382163is that a goblin orc
>>555382630he's an Armiger so can't take Titan levels THO
When Yrliet and Marazhai have such troubles during warp jumping, why don't corsairs have the same problems? Different ships? Different methods to travel through the warp? Are they exclusively using those aeldari web ways?
>>555382841Eldar do not travel through the warp, they use the webway, yeah
>>555382772just toybox respec him THOUGH
>>555382559Ignore hellknight and just level him as a fighter. I usually pick up travel domain on him from hellknight if I'm playing in turn based for the swift action teleport but I wouldn't consider it optimal.
>>555383008no, that's cheating!
Damn looking at this I wish GW wasn't so handsy with their IP, we could have module kino from 40K autists
>>555383008we don't do cheats here
>>555382931they do travel the warp when they have to (no webway portal near the destination) but presumably their equivalent of gellar fields made by their void dreamers aren't as torturous as the human ones. they also make shorter and slower trips.
>>555382841they have specially trained psykers that sort of work like eldar navigators when they travel through the warp.>>555382931corsairs travel through both the webway and warp, though they only use the warp if they have to. void dreamers and way seekers (laarthyr) help them with both, i think they were introduced 10-15 years ago, maybe mentioned offhand in supplementary material and short stories/novels before that.
>>555348391You'll get bored without her
>want to choose the historian background for PoE I>The only background cultures that allow for the historian background are the two gayest nations Ixamitl Plains and RauataiYou would think Old Valia (though I dont like them) would have access to such a background too as their description is that their country is littered by ruins of their ancient empire.
>>555383738maybe they're the kind of savages that live among the ruins without researching them
>>555383715But she doesn't offer sex? Only self-harm.
>>555383825Considering they supposedly love science and animancy and are greedy merchants I doubt it
>>555383526Yeah this is a bit where they contradicted themselves. The entry for Voiddreamers in the TTRPG doesn't mention them going through the warp which is actually retarded, Eldar have no protection against Slaanesh safe maybe soulstones, if you stretch. But Corsairs hailing from Commoragh don't have soulstones, so that's like flying snacks straight into her mouth. Yeah yeah I'm willing to accomodate warp spiders and blink packs if you want because that's a super fast jump whatever. I don't have the Mymeara campaign mentioned in the Lexicanum that talks about Void dreamers too, but I think the error comes from there.
>>555383738You know what, fuck it, reading about the Ixamitl Plains and they're kinda cool. But I have no idea how to fit lore into it. I want to play as a Pale Elf but no Pale Elf would be in Ixamitl...ughh...what do I do.....
>>555383379I'd be very curious to see where yo get this info, I had been wondering. Would make no sense for Yrliet and Marazhai to whine about a flimsy veil if they use the same technology tho.
Epione will have a gag scene where she offers a prostate exam.
>>555384281hopefully i am gagged and bound
>>555384121Play as an orlan
>>555384228It seems to be a contradiction. Those Eldar ships that overload their engines to get away from Yrliet are going SOMEWHERE but it's not clear where. Yet there Eldar are generally deathly afraid of the Warp and only ever talk about the Webway I would assume that there are well hidden Webway gates absolutely everywhere and that's what they use.
>>555378203this thread has only one, most here are boomers in their 30s and 40s
>>555384547Yrliet is so disgusting to talk to they use the warp even though it takes more resources and is now dangerous to useThat's funny
>>555383107Why won't GW be fine with that? More people would get into Warhammer TTRPG
it's never too late, you can always stop taking the hormones and change your pronouns back to he/him
>>555384662GW has done very well by protecting their IP. Why would they open it up to the retarded larpers who don't even buy minis
>>555384529NO!!!!!!! I would fuck a female Orlan though
>>555383107That's a deflection from their unbelievably shitty mod support. GW wouldn't prevent basic gameplay mods
>>555384817>GW has done very well by protecting their IP.They themselves are the ones ruining it kek
CRPG idea: people from 40k are transported to fantasy warhammer. Hilarity ensues.
>>555385043ruining how? Revenue and profits are up>but artistic integritylol, lmao
CRPG idea: Nenio from Pahtfinder is transported to my bed, naked and horny. Hilarity ensues.
>>555385043I bet you love that rick and morty warhammer show
>>555384547Wayseekers can create them, it's their whole shtick.
I wanna smooch her.
>>555384547>>555384228yrliet and marazhai are not corsairs and corsairs traveling through the warp is not something other eldar factions do.
Imagine the liters, gallons even of virile Aeldari seed Larry will deposit into every single hole the femquisitor has.
>>555371503When I did my run of WotR, I could never figure out whether he's actually meant to be comic relief or just comes off that way because of bad writing.
>>555385647If he's comic relief Owlcat played it very subtle because everybody in universe takes him seriously
>>555385528For every new corsair's first warp jump, the crew lock him in a supply closet and watch his reaction over the cameras. Hilarity ensure
>>555384054it's not an error when they have mentioned it multiple times and recently brought it up. they are just highlighting old lore tidbits that were never important and making them more pronounced, some of them are bound to be contradictory with all the random lore in wh40k.
>>555385594Imagine the mindbreak Raszard will suffer when he sees that the male elf not only has sex with the femMC, but she can ask him for the anal he so desperately desires with Yrliturd
lesbian coded character
>>555385751I was thinking it might be some meta humour on part of the developer where everyone takes him seriously despite him being incompetent.
Some corsairs use only known webway gates and operate between such systemsSome use wayseekers to create temporary gates Some make small cautious calculated jumps to systems that are known to have gates, using stolen or purchased imperial technology, or the Tau ships that make shallow dips Source: my ass, which has never failed me yet
>>555385751Everyone takes Regill seriously and he's still comic relief
anon and his waifu
CRPG idea: your favorite crpg companions, but now they're in india
>>555386272There are a couple of jokes because of how deadpan serious he always acts but I wouldn't call Regill a comic relief character in the way Nenio or Nok-Nok are
>>55538508640k characters are too weak and would get mogged by fantasy chads
>>555386408Why is she wearing communion wafers on her head?
Oh no, who could have seen that coming!Okay, I'll admit I didn't expect her to be demon mommy rather than just a random succubus or whatever but still.
>>555386445Yrliet is in paradise
they actually made a different version of your capital when it gets upgraded enoughthat's so cute
fantasy chuds
2026 is the year RTwP dies!!!!
>>555387423It's too modern and city-like. The first tier is best, dirt roads, comfy hamlets. It's how it should be.
>>555387423your capital becoming a city is exact point when Kingmaker stops being fun and becomes a drag
>>555385528Well that depends on which ending you got but I got them as Corsair buddies
2026 is the year I lose my virginity!!!!
>>555377984I mean, most girls say they are bisexual and then their dating history is 7 different dudes and 1 fling with a women. Feels like saying most guys are gay because they wanna fuck Maraz or a twink like ZevranThe people obsessing over yuri romances in games are usually under 20 and on SSRI. Just look at people obsessing over Silver in Deadlock, she lost to a fucking fat midget creature because there are barely any of you in gaming, just super loud like the people getting mad about "wokeness" in 2026
>Devoting energy to talk about pixel kissingKill yourselves
>>555388605I believe in you anon
>>555385594>>555385889The Chad Larry vs the Virgin yrilet>Yrliet: monk'ghei don't touch me, ew, can't use human guns, needs to get special trait to use drukhari weapons, angst about home world, because you and nobody likes her, withers away when you romance her>Larry: sex with monk'ghei, can use human guns, cool space pirate, will not betray you
How many cocks has Galfrey sucked?
>>555387534RTwP is the superior way
>>555389345At least 1
When was the last time we had a proper lesbian romance, had to be over a decade
Is there no way to reset your companions to LVL1 in WotR?
>>555390504BG3 was 3 years ago...
>>555390563no, you have to use a mod or toybox
>>555385843>multiple timesWhere
>>555390652>3 years agoNo way...
>>555390652BG3 companions are playersexual tho
>>555390652everyone there is bi
>>555388135Best ending for both of them. Marazhai leaves Abelard's family alone, Yrliet finally gets her personality fixed with copious amounts of formerly Deldar cock and plundering.
My dream romance is a ghost who never knew love because she was too busy with work or something.
>>555390970ghost? as in she doesn't have a physical body? with which you can have sex? incels are gonna freak
>>555385594Nah, I'm racist towards elves.
>>555384121PoE has annoying national background choices. Like Philospher in PoE2 is Ixamitil-only. And some very cool race choices get thematically limiting backgrounds if you wanna fit geography. >>555390970Kino concept. Though it is sort of similar to Deonara from Torrment.
>>555390705https://www.scribd.com/document/944562585/Imperial-Armour-11-The-Doom-of-Mymeara-Second-Edition#page=164https://www.scribd.com/document/326090393/Rogue-Trader-The-Navis-Primer-Scan#page=129https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l7x5v6ib/the-new-year-preview-prince-yriel-counterattacks-with-new-aeldari-corsairs/the navis primer mentions void dreamers can track and follow ships through the warp and the doom of mymeara mentions warp travel, along with the recent stuff.
>>555386475>comic relief character >Nenio or Nok-NokBut they are not funny?
>>555387209Japanese fashion
I think Nenio is funny
>>555391565stfu froggy you're a furry
>>555379057>I set game to piss-easy to compensate my pathetic cheatingAnd you said you played kingmaker before...
What's your ideal antagonist?
>>555391749suspicious post
Battle for Drezen was pretty fun, always enjoy siege scenarios. We angelpilled now.
>>555391749>moid fetish>irrelevant time wasting question
>>555391749Lovers from a former reincarnated life who lead dual lives where one is a hardcore militant atheist and the other is a deeply devoted priest
>>555391815>>555391898grok, give me context
>>555391898@gork what is this
Is there a reason beyond ingrained design approach for CRPGs to almost never treat their companions as inseparable from the main plot? JRPGs and Earthbound clones, while I am not a big fan, manage to nail this point perfectly with the design sometimes not even having a firmly defined MC. But in CRPGs they will always be relegated to optional sidecontent - exposition boxes that explain their background and then fuck off after you complete their fetchquest and do nothing for the plot. BioWare is basically the only one that tried to push the design forward on this point, but only up to a point. And all the other big dogs - Obsidian, Owlcat, Larian - just do the same old shit. You know what was the exception? Disco Elysium with Kim. That's it.
>>555391975Rape
>>555391749Myself
>>555391975>>555392142she rapes him
Who reads western comics anymore. Who gives a shit.
>>555391975>>555392142stfu twitter bitches
>>555392151Yrliet's plotline and romance is heavily interwoven into the main plot of RT. She's basically the canon waifu.
>>555392151I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DISMISS OR KILL EVERY COMPANION EVEN IF IT RUINS THE PLOT
>>555390504Sera
>>555391948sounds kinda interesting
>>555392151Because it sucks when people hate the characters you're stuck with for the entire game.
>>555392493Up to a point. I originally really liked Rogue Trader and its approach to companions, until hitting later acts and realizing all the buildup gets sorta wasted with the same old Owlcat companion approach where you do 1 small quest for each companion in tbe last act and then they just become a blankly staring setpiece on the bridge, and sadly the same happens to Yrliet. True, she does have main plot relevance, but it doesn't go all the way.
>>555392576Bro ass effect and that hindi/british companion?
>>555390247I pray to Iomedae he was black...
>>555382163>Is the demon stronger than the level 16 wizard?No, lol. The demon is piss easy. Chorussina is the actual boss. Faggots who have not beat her have not beat the game
>>555392775at least she aborted the little shit
>>555392709Oh no, and what if people hate the main plot they are stuck with the entire game? What if they hate the main antagonist? Perhaps we can dismiss the main antagonist and hire a new build-a-bear antagonist from the Pathfinder society that "shuts the fuck up and doesn't talk"?
>>555392745It goes quite a bit further than the rest, I think. Even if you don't romance her dealing the stuff with tech-blight, Theodora's actions in the past, and the Craftworld being blown up all extend into the final act. I agree that quite a few of the companion quest climaxes were not fleshed out, though. Definitely something they need to work on.
>>555391898ugh, not another troon
>>555392151because being forced to lug around a shit character can sour someone on the whole game
>>555390504>a proper lesbian romanceThey're relatively rare, the only ones that come to mind are Judy Alvarez, Sera and Juhani
>>555392754Technically she's a romance, but not a companion. So depends on what you consider "proper."
Guys ME3 was 15 years ago.
An interesting mystery that nobody seems to react to, and makes me wonder if I'm imagining it. How would you get these demons past everyone in the tavern? How would you kill them without waking me up? Nobody even commented on it, some guy ran in immediately to say the tavern was being attacked so there was no time. Ember is usually standing around in this room but is missing, so I guess it's her being witchy.
>>555392151>Disco Elysiumis shit and not a crpg
>>555392986then they won't play it dipshit
>>555393091>We should compromise the artistic value of a work because it could reduce our demographic rangeHello Todd Howard, please kill yourself. But seriously, what you're arguing for is basically that games should pamper the audience and become smoothed down.
>>555392151CRPGs are designed with choice in mind. Both the main character and the party. They frequently let you play solo. Plus, along the same lines CRPGs usually let the game go on when individual people die. Making companions plot essential generally requires some kind of Deus Ex Machina mechanic. like Linzi's ring, to explain why they can't be killed too early. Or they have to include backup contingencies for any related events, which can be done but it a lot more work. Basically it's a consequence of what makes CRPGs both hard to make and very compelling in the first place. Which is that ethos of choice with consequences. JRPGs are very linear with fixed stories. For them its either game over entirely or no one dies. It's easy for the characters to be deeply intertwined to a fixed story. But it becomes much, much harder with a branching narrative.
>>555392151because it ruins the player's party. I didn't realize until bg3 (every normie was playing it) that most people only use the same characters in theirparty and refuse to use the other characters.
>can't romance Wenduag because I took Lann in the prologue>can't romance Galfrey because I said something that gave her the ick>can't romance Cam because I didn't let her complete the "ritual">can't romance Arue because I flirted with her too muchmy guy ran out of options, he is now incel...
There aren't very many lesbian companions in games. Which makes sense, since women are the minority among gamers, and lesbians are yet another minority among women. It stands to reason the vast majority of romances in games would be aimed at heterosexual men, since that is by far the largest constituent of gamers.One that I thought was really nice was Suvi Anwar from Mass Effect. She's a really nice person who is smart and kind. Not especially deep of a romance, but just a nice person to come back to, which is all you need for a nice romance. Doesn't need to be fancy.Sera from Dragon Age is abrasive to many people and she's not very popular for a reason, however I did enjoy some of her talks about racial expectations. "Why don't you act elf-y" is a valid question since lots of fantasy does indeed pigeonhole lots of characters into certain character traits based on race.There's also Hexxat, but she's not very popular either. She's rather mean and not in an endearing way.Disciples Liberation has two lesbian romances, and they're both nice. That is an underrated crpg-adjacent game.There's also Judy Alvarex from Cyberpunk. This one is surprising, since there are only like 5 romanceable characters in that game, only 3 of which are women, and so to dedicate a third of the romances to exclusively female is rather uncommon. She's a pretty interesting character who doesn't always agree with the player and has some endings that you would say are bittersweet at best and unfortunate at worst, but that goes with the theme of the game, which is that things are shitty and you just try to do what you can.Swtor has one exclusive lesbian, Doctor Lemda Avesta on Makeb, but she only has one scene and then you leave the planet and never hear from her again lol. Unlike dozens of other companions, who's romance spans the length of the game and have repeatable date night miniquests. Many of these can be same-sex, but are not exclusive lesbian.
>you should be forced to drag Marazhai and Heinrix around because some slavic broad thinks they're interestinglmfao
>>555394354I wish I could suck Mizora's toes in exchange for eldritch blast.
>>555394354You will never be a lesbian nametranny
I am taking notes for when I develop the ultimate CRPG for /crpgg/. What I have so far:>turn-based combat, RTwP is cringe and gay>romances mandatory or it isn't a CRPG>multiple male romances for femcels>a femdom romance>rape>pregnancy mechanics>well written companions>at least one humilation ritual, potentially combine this with an obtuse puzzle map>cuckqueens and cuckolds, both as the player and among companions/NPCs>fleshed out villanous/evil povs and reactivity on evil runs>at least one non-playersexual lesbian romance>don't use 5eWhat else?
>>555394354>There's also Hexxat, but she's not very popular either. She's rather mean and not in an endearing way.I feel like its more that most lesbians aren't attracted to non-white women
damn nigga get a fucking publisher jfc
>>555394458I met them on discord once they're a real woman.
>>555394469This sounds more like a porn game.
>>555394341You can recruit and bang corrupted Arue if you are a Legend, Demon, Lich or Trickster later in act 5
>>555394354Mizora is too hot, Swen is cruel for creating her. Anyway, lesbos will be catered to in the new Divinity, trust Swen to save gaming.
I am taking notes for when I develop the ultimate CRPG for /crpgg/. What I have so far:>romance>gameplay is entirely a 4chan post you can skim >NOT woke>no paragraphs
>>555394469I hate turn-based combatI don't want party slots wasted on femcel baitrape and pregnancy mechanics are cringeonly playersexuals matter(You)'ve failed
>>555394593¿Por qué no los dos?
>>555394469I'm unironically making a self referential RPG about RPGs that is itself based on /crpg/ and multiple people here. It's RTWP and a queue system though.
>>555394550With how much he loves AI, he definitely used a AI voice to dupe you
>>555394697>it's RTwP
>>555390921>Marazhai leaves Abelard's family aloneIs this true? I heard he bothers Abelard in all scenario
>>555394640gosh, everyone's a critic!
>>555394770All the best RPGs were real time, turn based was something for final fagasy. And that remains true today.
>>555392745>she does have main plot relevanceShe doesn't actually. She's just a victim of circumstances. Remove her and nothing changes. If you want companions that actually do have plot relevance than look no farther than Pasqal and, to a much lesser extent, Ulfar and Jimmy, and to an even lesserer extent - Marazhai
>>555394878Uh, sweaty, BG3 and DOS2 are NOT real time and WOTR is better in turn based mode.
The idea /crpg/ crpg is Dances with Rogues.
>>555394697The party is a bunch of sex-obsessed fat guys..
>>555395093I should be able to play as a Cleric (Preist)
>>555394469Sounds like the perfect game has already been made
What do you think the average Camfag looks like?
>>555394469
>>555395191we can evolve on its perfection. it must be fantasy as well.
>>555392151I know what you mean and I hate it. It's purely to accommodate retards who will go "I don't like you DIE" to every companion
>>555395202albert fish
>>555395093>female protagonistyuck i prefer doing the rape thank you
>>555395280Fantasy is cringe and a step backwards
>>555394097That's not what that anon is arguing at all, dumb shit. The concern of a shit character that is forced on the player is very real, even for perfect writers like Sawyer who only write perfect characters everyone likes.
>>555395554Well, I disagree.
>>555394697The party:>several fat guys each with a different fetish (rape, breeding, futa, etc)>1 tranny lesbian who talks too much>1 femcel who is disgusted by the others
>>555395585>That's not what that anon is arguing at allout to be /crpg/'s subtitle
>>555395756there is more than one tranny as they are the core enemy faction, but yes this actually pretty accurate
>I promise that I won't see anyone but you. It will make the experience all the more intense when we do meet. And in any case, no one could ever hope to compete with you.
Why do moids refuse to play female characters even when it makes sense in rpgs? For example, if you want to play a witch, that's a feminine character, you can't be a male witch.
>>555394164>it hurts branching pathsBut how branching are CRPGs, really? Unless we look at experimental ones like Tyranny, its not that much. Grandaddies like Baldur's gate were completely linear, just allowed you to wonder around to do side content. Pathfinder is also very linear. Like what are the big branches in WotR? You do the same exact shit each playthrough, just get a different Mythic quest that acts purely modularly. You need not that much effort to integrate a companion fully to the story. Just give reactions for every path option, give camp chats where you discuss how X or Y quest makes them feel where the companion and you exchange your thoughts. Make it feel like an actual party of individuals getting on a quest. This is the most basic level of making good companions that BioWare is doing since forever. And not only them, when they want to, Obsidian can also carry their weight with companions like Kreia, like Eder. So really, this is just an excuse for lazy design
>>555395756>>several fat guys each with a different fetish (rape, breeding, futa, etc)I'm partial to futas and I am not fat. We're not all Americans, you know.
>>555395968What moid here wants to play as a witch
>>555394354>There's also Hexxat, but she's not very popular either. Gee, I wonder why
>>555395968>>555396056Ummm not true sweetie historically several men were burned as witches xxx
>>555395968Why would I play as a witch when the game gives you a witch companion and a shaman (memorization witch) early on?
>>555396042weight
>>555396042there are plenty of fat european nerds
>>555395968I unironically played Tyranny as a strong independant black woman mage. Also KOTOR1 is for female protag, KOTOR2 for male.
>>555396253The moid's inability to consider a role that is not himself but better looking
if a woman be a warrior in an rpg then a man can be a witch!
>>555385086>>555387079That's just a regular "40k party arrives on a feudal planet" scenario
>>555392151It started with BG1, where companions were little more than items to be used and discarded
>>555395756The femcel is also a fat transbian btw
>>555395968I play as a female character 70% of the time
>>555396295proof?
>>555396368>non sequiter
moid foid toid noid
>>555396374People on Mallus are far stronger than even space marines. When a greater daemon in 40k appears it can rape an entire planet by itself while in Fantasy a regiment of stouthearted halberdiers can chop one down
Sawyer but he's the antagonist of the game, a powerful wizard driven mad by the loss of his wife and who wants to remove the ability of humans to love so they can be spared the pain
>>555395756we are just as disgusted by the femcels
>>555393091What about lugging around a shit main plot? Why is that different?
>>555396782Let me side with him
>>555396515However, it also quickly became apparent that companions are a core part of the genre, at least if the game isn't solo like Underrail. In fact, BG2 already had companions which, in some aspects, outcompete modern Owlcat ones, mainly with Imoen being plot-essential character, Aerie being able to get pregnant and Sarevok being quite reactive all the way to the end, especially if you fix him into a chaotic good.
>>555396578
>>555396868Why do you want humans to stop loving
>>555396896BG2 also has better interaction between companions than owlcat games
>>555395202Camfag here, I wanna smooch her.
>>555368665I can barely see anything.Is your screen at 900% brightness/gamma or something?
>>555397058Better balance
>>555396782Nah, it would be more KINO if it had some mythological great schism between Sawyer and Avellone, where Sawyer rules over a very well worldbuilt early modern history autismo empire, but all of its NPCs are beyond boring and undercooked, while Avellone leads some sort of wandering horde of philosopher kings out in the desert, each of whom will talk your ear off with existentialist essays.
>>555396916he's barely overweightwhy are yuropoors so puny?
>>555396039Branching is not just where you go, location A or location B, but also the worldstate when you get there. Think of save editors and all the flags and shit that your CRPG save is tracking throughout your playthrough. Lots of RPGs need to know what you've done before to know if they can let you do or say something ot not. Compared to the that a JRPG need to know your statistics and items, But the game is otherwise going going to be more or less the same for every player who reaches that point. Like in BG2 consider how much stuff can be done and companions can be found either before or after Spellhold and the Underdark. You can't count on someone finding Viconia, Jan, or Keldorn before going to Spellhold and they're in the starting city!
>>555397058because it sounds fun
>>555397121OH NO HE'S HOT
My ideal crpg:good storygood companionsgood romancesgood gameplaygood endingsgood musicTake notes, stupid crpg "devs"
>>555397291I'd play that
My ideal crpg:good romancesTake notes, stupid crpg "devs"
>>555397395I wanna smooch him.t. Cam
>>555397408>>555397578but is the romance turn based or real time with smooch based?
>>555397715turn based with dice rolls and skill checks
>>555397715It's plap-based
>>555397351Then don't make literal who random companions on sidequests, but integrate them to the plot, or if you want to be very artisinal - give player one shot to find them and if they miss it, they miss it. I think Arcanum, if touched up, could do wonders - Virgil could easily be expanded to a fully plot-essential companion, as well as some others like Magnus or Raven. So you vould have the randoms, and then have the ones you encounter on your actual main quest. Or, if we assume a reworking - just cut the randoms out entirely.
>>555395968Cutting off your penis doesn't make you a woman
How important is thematically fitting music in games for (you). Do you want the music to line up with the setting or can I go ham with the dungeon synth even if we're talking about the viking age.
Every day I thank Sawyer that nobody will ever listen to what these threads want
>>555396039>Just give reactions for every path option, give camp chats where you discuss how X or Y quest makes them feel where the companion and you exchange your thoughts. Make it feel like an actual party of individuals getting on a quest.You can do this in BG3. At any time you can ask your companions "What do you think of what's happened?" and they'll give you a take on recent game events. Owlcat likes putting in little interjections between party memebers when camping, etc. All this stuff is known and can be done, but this a just more writing and more permutations to account for. And that's before you even get to voice acting. Basically, that stuff can be done, and is done, but it takes time and work and sometimes isn't prioritized over other things. Even for Jrpgs the Tales series stood out because it spent time making lots of "skits" of unimportant banter between party members. And that's something many other JRPGs would never bother with.
>>555397645troon*
>>555398158lol go choke on a cock you tranny freak
>>555394164>branching narrative.No games have this It's reduced to "you recruit Cernd or you don't" and this exists in isolation
>>555398158crpggers would be happier if they played porn games, VNs, or the Sims
>>555398041>give player one shot to find them and if they miss it, they miss itOkay, but if that was a plot essential element you now need to write at least two versions of that section of the game. And CRPGs will do that at times! This stuff can be done, but it's a matter of where and how you want to spend your dev time.
cam the hero
>>555398125thematic music is very important for atmosphere in any kind of game, i think. but conventions can be played with for contrast.
>>555398279>the Simsthere's nothing to do after a certain point
>>555398068The Science disagrees.
>>555398238You will never be the target audience
>>555398279>porn gamesSinisistar, Night of Revenge, and LonaRPG are legitimately good games. I can't wait for Thornsin and maybe Princess Reconquista if it's released this year.
>>555398258The narrative branches at the micro level but is usually diamond shaped at the macro level. You're given a bunch of choices as to how to get somewhere, either physically or philosophically, but then it usually forces to down to a particular end event.
>>555398125Most crpg music is anachronistic because it uses full classical orchestras and modern instruments when it should be at most simple period appropriate instruments. I think this is a lazy copout and doesn't push composers to innovate. You can do a lot with just simple instruments and choir.
>>555398758Also worth noting many choices are atomic. X quest fail, Y choice is made, Z becomes the new king. It is all irrelevant until the final slides, or, if you are fancy, the one final battle scene where it shows all your allies rallying to you
>>555398685eh i don't think thornsin is going to be good or comparable to NoR
>>555398810>Most crpg music is anachronistic because it uses full classical orchestras and modern instruments when it should be at most simple period appropriate instruments.Only if its diagetic. A traditional score doesn't exist for the world of the game/media. It's by definition for the benefit of the audience. That's like complaining that the UI isn't skeuomorphic.
>>555399042It's decent enough. Just needs some fine-tuning. Some abilities are really useless. And of course it can't compare to NoR: it's basically the best H-game to ever come out. Even its fucking soundtrack is good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2onZDRhRKks
>>555398810Fantasy music in general has been on a stagnant decline. At this point you could take 10 different fantasy IPs and everything will sound like "generic epic battle theme number 2". I think Obsidian's composition theme is the only good one that I can still point to. God knows Blizzard is shitting the bed hard with safe, boring and unnoticable bakground music.
Lannbros... why did Owlcat betray us...
>>555399621Never played this dlc. How does Regill react to being in Arue's body?
>>555399621Wenduag is superior
I really liked the big battle. I was able to hold the gate with Ulbrig and Lann the Mann pretty much indefinitely and it felt very heroic. Wolf and Cam holding the rooftops against the ladders (which it wouldn't let me just kick over, or if it would I couldn't see how), and I had Seela watching the other gate certain it would fall down too eventually. Cam heroically went down in a 3v1 on the rooftops but really accounted for herself nicely. Wolf eventually went down as well. There really isn't much RP reason for my character to trust or help Wolf, but I feel like I need him as my lockpick guy, so I like to think this was the moment he proved himself, rushing to Cam's aid and fighting hard odds before eventually going down himself, he has it where it counts. I had to send Ulbrig to try and hold the roofs while I had my martyr last stand at the gates, I thought about pulling Seela but I knew they'd come through as soon as I did, and eventually they did. Seela went down too, but held everyone long enough with Lann's help for me to get over there and finish the bull demon. Really cool and definitely feels like a 'canon' moment for my character and party. Everyone has good reason to treat me like the main character now after seeing that instead of me just being that girl who survived falling into a hole. She did the little prayer animation right after the battle too which was a nice touch, "thanks Iomedae".My only complaint is party size in things like this, same complaint I had with BG3, there are times where it would make sense for companions to be there whether they're in the party or not, it's an all-hands-on-deck fight for survival so Ember and Nenio should have been out there at least as AI. Ember at least, I could see Nenio and definitely Darren hiding. But there's like fifty friendly NPCs in the same fight so I know the game could do it.
>>555399992They don't change bodies and the dlc is garbage
>>555400324it's cute and comfy
>>555400306Did you go out of your way to recruit the gayest companions possible?
>>555400387words that no woman will ever use to describe (you)
>>555400429This is a dumb question because the game just hands you these companions.
>>555400429You need to stop projecting and just admit that you want to suck ulbrig's dick
>>555400429I've recruited any companion it gives me so far, it's only recently that I had more companions than party slots to begin with. I figured that of my available companions, Nenio, Ember, and Darren would be the least likely to volunteer for a big fight, the ones I took seemed like the ones that would volunteer, or forced out there like the tiefling. Though again realistically they all should have been out there, anyone who can hold a weapon should be fighting instead of waiting for demons to come through the door.
>>555400740Okay faggot
i still remember doing ulbrig's romance as a guy and laughing super hard when his va said the "I want you to be my husband" linethat was fucking hilarious
>>555400851That's you remember?
>>555400935>doing ulbrig's romance as a guyfaggot
>Only responds to them one calling him faggotFunny
>>555400306Yeah it a nice set piece. But it kinda just gets short circuited by having multiple casts of Grease/Winter's Grasp.
>>555401009I was curious, okay.I even did Sosiel because I was going demon and the domestic abuse part was hilarious
>>555400993Okay faggot who mentioned sucking cocks out of nowhere
>>555401059He knows what he isn't. Do you?
>>555401120https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV-OYR5EDlQ
>>555401009He's zesty
>>555401136I accept you
>>555401313That doesn't make any sense.
>>555401167>He
>>555401475Ulbrig is obviously written as a gay romance, so you play it any other way then you're committing a headcanon
>>555400306kek why do the npcs have the most generic RTS militia portraits possible
>>555401549There's nothing obvious about it, it's just some faggot headcanon you conjured up and then inverted to pretend like everyone normal is guilty of what you're doing. Very typical faggot behavior, especially here.
>>555401475Every time I look into his eyes I just can't help thinking about him claiming my butthole and it's his fault.
>>555401591Because they're model closeups, instead of just not having a portrait like in RT
>>555392151t. Trick Weekes, unemployed
>>555399621Cam with the drip
>>555400306>There really isn't much RP reason for my character to trust or help WolfYou can RP it as conscripting him because you're desperately short on manpower, it's finethe bigger problem is later in the game
I don't trust tieflingsNot being racist, just speaking from experience
>>555402103Stop lying, they are a self-employed entrepreneurhttps://bsky.app/profile/trickweekes.bsky.social
I don't trust dwarvesNot talking about crpgs, I mean in real lifeNot prejudiced, just speaking from experience
>>555401549I have actually played it, and it's super natalist about rebuilding Sarkoris and all. I honestly can't imagine it as a homo story at all.
>>555403071Oh ok fair enoughI haven't played WotR at all
dwarfmaxxing rn
>>555402417This but halflings>random bits of food go missing>making the party stop every 30 minutes for second breakfast, pre-lunch, lunch, post-lunch, tea and cake time, supper, ale supper, dinner, first, second, and third desserts, night cap.>one halfling takes in food in a day what an entire party of humans, half elves, and half orcs take.
>being a "lawful" character and recruiting Wenduag>being a "lawful" character and recruiting Woljif>being a "lawful" character and letting Woljf back into the party after he committed desertion >being a "lawful" character and not killing the helpful companion the second her hobbies are revealed>being a "lawful" character and not killing Arueshalae on the spot for being a demon
>>555403226>suspiciously skinny "dwarf" rogue joins the party>it's just a larping halfling
>>555403450But I always do this.
CRPGs for bidet users like me? I.E. without poopy buttholes.
>>555403226montaron would never do this
>>555403450I do all those things except woljif. I'm gonna whip him into shape with extreme discipline
>>555403450Alignment is a continuum, it doesn't have to be extremism.
>>555403689WotR so you can offer your clean butthole to Ulbrig
>>555403450>getting rid of the quintessential rogue for being in characterI would be upset if woljif didn't try to desert atleast once.
>>555403450>WenduagIndefensible.>WoljifA case could be made that his crimes aren't so dire to deserve getting exiled in the middle of the World Wound and helping the party might as well be his form of community service.>helpfulIndefensible.>ArueCould be dealt with in a myriad of ways without breaking alignment since she's such a unique case.
>>555403450with a proper guidance, they can all be fixedrehabilitation, not punishment
>>555403792>I'm lawful even though I never act lawful
>>555403956Do as I say, not as I do.
>>555403956>neverThat's the made up part. Imagine somebody who is anti-immigration. His wife has a disease that can only be cured by briefly letting in a Chinese doctor, and he agrees. Does that mean he's now pro-immigration, even though he supports shooting Somalis and jeets on sight? No, because these things aren't on/off true/false kind of things. It's a range.
>>555403929>they can all be fixedCam literally can't be
Cam can only be fixed by eating girl butt.
>>555404209Have you tried shock therapy?
There is no way a lawful commander would ever allow a demon to roam free in his city, you guys are simps thinking with your dicks. She'd either be executed or imprisoned, a lawful evil character would probably have her tortured for information.
>>555404378why are fags like this
>>555404205That does make him a hypocrite. The common "things are only bad when they personally affect me"
Behind every lawtist is a marinefag
Chaotic neutral is the highest IQ alignment
>>555404696>"things are only bad when they personally affect me"Nothing to do with it. There is an obvious difference between a limited and temporary thing with an obvious benefit and an unrestricted unlimited thing. Thinking people are able to understand this without being told. Anons? Like asking fish to fly.
>>555404696t. purity spiraller
>>555404205It does make him a hypocrite, and probably a moron if he keeps up being anti-immigrant after needing an immigrant to come in to save his wife.
>>555404893>oh you let one in temporarily with an important task that means you need to let in 500,000 dish washers saar!The modern anon is just a gutter's retard. Unthinking, loud, fat, greasy, just a disgusting creature.
>Our dedicated boys keep the peace in newly annexed Canada
>>555405002I also forgot an ungrateful asshole.
You can either be lawful or you can be an aruesimp, but you can't be both and keep your integrity
>>555404854Purity spiralers are just hypocrites taken to their natural conclusion as they need to make constant excuses and continue digging that hole. If you want to take a position that X is bad, then you better not be caught making excuses as to why X is actually a good thing because you benefit from it.
You don’t get it my character IS his alignment if it says Lawful on the character page then no Chaotic actions are permitted even if they’re optimal, logical and beneficial for him
>>555404893>You're either pro-white-replacement or you can NEVER have dealings with foreigners ever
>>555405263the whole point of being a lawful character is that you have principles and don't just do what your feefees want
How come when lawful alignment autism comes up you faggots can never engage with the actual setting or roleplaying. It's always either real life politics or deus vult larp
>>555405002>strawmanThe hypocrite reveals his goalposts on wheels.
>>555405330Or you can just not believe in the replacement garbage.
>>555405436Autists lack imagination
>>555405390Being lawful is nothing more than living by a code. It's why the D&D alignment system breaks down the moment any nuance enters the picture.
>>555405457Garbage? In what flyover town do you live in? I've seen Indians in a goddamn Bosnia
>>555405436Because it's never about following the law, it's all about doing whatever you want and having the moral highground doing so.
>from alignments to immigration policies in one post
>>555405712And? Who the fuck cares about Bosnia? Motherfucker of all places on the planet someone could theoretically move in to replace/usurp the established wealthy classes, you picked fucking Bosnia?
>>555405436because they wish they could shame/kill anyone they don't like same with the 40gayfags
>>555405330>tfw brown white supremacist
>>555405436There is a particular subset of players that are just /pol/tards extremely convinced they're the side of law and order and thus justified while being the most extreme chaoticfags ever who just want to ignore any sense of fairness and justice and just live out their fantasies of killing minorities. Which is why literally everything they ever do is seen through the perspective of "who does the game allow me to kill and what excuse can I find to do it".
>>555405685Everybody has a code of some kind, including a chaotic evil character like Cam. Lawful implies structure, order, trust, reliability, stability. A lawful commander would take their responsibilities over indulging a demon who dances with butterflies.
>>555405449It's not a strawman, it's an accurate depiction of the event described and your attitude towards it. You're saying "strawman" because you've seen it used in internet arguments before, have no idea what it means, but are trying to cargo cult it into your own argument.
Is templar/druid good for making a tank in black geyser? It seems to gives you a ton of resistances to everything.
The hell's a Bosnia?
>>555406160Maybe someone will make a tiktok about it for you.
>>555405882It's a backdoor to Europe
>>555406221All I see are whores, is this why it's very important?
>>555406068Ad hom
>>555406271Moving in to Europe is not so difficult that you need to treat it like fucking Mario levels where you need to go into progressively richer countries or else they get suspicious and boot you back to level 1. Specially not coming from fucking India, taking two plane trips is way more expensive than taking one single, slightly longer plane trip.
Everyone in this thread is pro-greater Bosnia btw.
the tradcath conquistador would never fall for Arue
>>555406656The tradcath conquistador would put his dick in a tuna can if he thought that was the only option around.
>>555405436Because the real world is more broadly understood than the lore of a particular setting, making for easier and better understood examples. It helps identify you as a helpful side benefit.
a lawful character would probably only romance Galfrey, the others are all chaotic coded
Seelah should have been romanceable
>>555406808my mom said real people are complicated and can't be defined by two axis only
>>555406808You can just say you like /pol/fagging outside of your containment board
>>555406819>Galfrey>LawfulSure, everyone's lawful then.
>>555406819Arue is extremely easy to justify for a LG character so long as you're not playing an angel of vengeance type.
>>555406819cring
>>555406068>lets create a weakened argument that will be easy to win againstYes literally a strawman>oh but I better throw out buzzwords to further muddy the field.You simply cannot breathe without lying can you?
>>555406656>the tradcath conquistador would always fall for Arue and convert herftfy
>>555406939Yes, I could lie. You demonstrate that every day. But why would I?
strawmanning and ad hominem-ing your mother
>>555406969>Arue is extremely easy to justify for a LG characterNot really, you're metagaming. Sure, we know Arue is trustworthy but if you're roleplaying the character most would assume Arue is a double agent spying on them. Maybe if your character has really low Wisdom it would work.
>>555407000>weakened argumentYour argument was already weak, and you're angry that I used simple language to demonstrate that which you hoped to obscure.
>>555406819I romance Galfrey because I'm a sucker for Saber clones.
The rational LG/NG character trusts no demon and is left with only Bob the baker and Alice the other LG paladin of something
>>555407179>Ask a paladin to cast Detect Evil because of course they can just do that>Doesn't work on herReally easy to circumvent.
>>555407248>motte and bailey
>>555407179>Sure, we know Arue is trustworthy but if you're roleplaying the character most would assume Arue is a double agent spying on them.You can perfectly have reached the jail Arue is locked in having already met her through the Desna shrine illusions. Or know about her beforehand because the desnans in Kenabres told you there was someone among the demons passing reliable information since a good while ago.
LG should be forced to use Seelah.
>>555406894Not true. The people I disagree with are evil and video game characters I don’t like all represent them.
Just did the Thessara quest in RT. It's peculiar how the pirate ship and Thessara are the most interesting parts in a DLC that nets you a companion, in this case a cop who has the personality of a wet 2x4. Still, Thessara was fun.
>>555407514Solomorne was just a nuisance to babysit. He added nothing to either scenario.
A visit by Desna does not prove that Arue is nota double agent.A demon could easily be capable of mimicking Desna.This literally happens in the Grey Garrison.
>>555407464Seelah is barley even lawful
With [Chaotic Evil], you can do anything you want.
>>555407396Fallacy fallacy
>>555407437More metagaming>>555407384There are ways of concealing alignment
>>555407437>because the desnans in Kenabres told you there was someone among the demons passing reliable information since a good while ago.Any "lawful" character probably already put them to the sword though, so you won't really have this information.
>>555407691but her alignment says she is
>>555407780Those are all events that happen to your character in the game you retard. It’s the exact opposite of metagaming.
>>555407780>There are ways of concealing alignmentYour character wouldn't know that
>>555407514Solomorne was fine on the pirate ship. On Thassera he just cursed everyone out.
>>555407723Chaotic neutralChaotic evil indicates a bias towards taking or ruining life so it is not absolute freedom.I could even argue that true neutral is the most free alignment because while chaotic has strong positive freedom it has weak negative freedom.
>>555407464Lawful characters would work with Seelah, Lann, Ember (with reservations), Ulbrig, Regill and Sosiel. Nenio and Greybor are basically morally indifferent so can slot into any party. They'd also use Cam until act 3.Daeren, Wenduag, Woljif and Arue are the unlikely ones
>>555407396Charlie practices bird law: /crpg/ edition
>>555407626Eh, I made decent use of him in combat and he was, arguably, useful in two (heavily) scripted moments on the ship and locked up in those cages. I won't be using him again this playthrough unless I must however.Still, Thessara was fun to explore, albeit briefly. Fun insight into the quasi-medieval societies in 40k and it was an engaging little setpiece of a mission.
>>555407780>There are ways of concealing alignmentMaybe, but at that point that should give enough doubt to reconsider immediately killing her. And I'm sure that would count as metagaming since a regular character wouldn't know that and any Paladin not being able to their one job should be a bigger issue altogether.
>>555407125You have to go back
>>555407921Maybe, maybe not, but a lawful character would assume the worst when dealing with a succubus with them being infamous for their manipulation and deception
>>555407910People here genuinely don't know what words mean at least half the time, it's literally just cargo cult repetition. They saw someone say it once and now they're going to say it because it's a magic incantation,
>>555408035I'm not killing cuties just like that. Those are my principles.
>>555407987>A frivolous nobleman, a troublesome but largely harmless thief and a redeemed succubus are too much.>But the assassin for hire that tries to betray and kill you within days of joining your party just because someone paid him isn't.Fucking lawfags...
>>555408062Actually I don't, you would allow a single immigrant to save your wife before going back home. Therefore you support allowing anyone and everyone in forever. That's the way it works. Right?
>>555408195It's his job
You can find any dumb reason not to use any character and spin it as "good" or "lawful"
>>555408356Not sure how you'll spin not recruiting Seelah as that though (before knowing her backstory). Or Valerie.
>>555408356The batman is every alignment meme.
>>555407179It's the opposite, a high wisdom character would look at the facts - her material aid in the liberation of the city, her passing info to the Desnans earlier, the fact that she's also granted divine power in your presence - and at least cautiously trust her. A character with a 4chan build, low WIS and even lower INT would just act rashly without considering the facts.
>>555408317You can say he was following the orders...
Pathfinder has a million different gods and variants of lawful good with different priorities. Fucking wotr itself demonstrates this. You’re not playing an ebin christian crusader or space marine.
>>555407780>More metagamingThat is LITERALLY the opposite of metagaming, that's roleplaying with the information your character has already found out about her.
Lawful good characters being bloodthirsty and cruel to anything they don't consider "good" is a fun trope
>>555408436Seelah is a shitty paladin who sucks at her job and shes no lawtist >Valerie
>>555408285Nice nonsensical off topic /pol/fagging non-sequitur. What the fuck are you even talking about?
>>555408598the very act of roleplaying is a form of metagaming
>>555408195Greybor is properly licensed. It's legal.
which alignment is rape?
>>555408747
>>555408724>What the fuck are you even talking aboutA very simple and relatively short conversation that is documented on the very screen you're staring at, yet nevertheless you failed to follow it. You're a low INT build.
>>555408598A lawful character would be more likely to help Hulrun rather than Ramien in the Desna quest, that information is metagaming
>>555408634Hulrun!? Funny how anons love him.
>>555408634Games should hide true alignments and have a perceived and actual scale.Every action has a justification as to how the player perceives themselves. At the end of the game you are presented with your actual alignment and how closely you match determines your fate and the ending.
>>555408763Oh yeah? Where's his signed paper with his 2x2?
>>555408842Killing Hulrun is literally a [Lawful] action if you ever talk to him about what he did to Ember.
>>555408867Nomos was a little bit of this, but it was possible to just overrule him.
A neutral good god is more of a burn le heretics god than Iomedae is and she’s fucking Desna.
>>555408724He's mad because people called him a hypocrite for allowing a single doctor of means to enter the country because he personally benefitted from it while disallowing mass immigration because the argument itself was a red herring.He is a hypocrite though.
>>555409000yes, but that's Owlcat being gay because Ember is one of their darlings
I always kill Aerie because only a metagaming cheating faggot would know the ogre is actually an elf
>>555408817Judicial rape or extra-judicial rape?
>>555409000checkedalso, bringing ember to battle is chaotic evilshe's mentally unwell and a child, and you wouldn't know the bit about hulrun unless you brought her around to fight
>>555409338>she's mentally unwell and a childNot in human kingdoms
This is why I pick CN so that anything that I do makes sense (I wanted to do it)
>>555409329marital rape
>>555409118You're demonstrating a lack of reading comprehension and critical thinking, and it has made you both mad and clown-like for a while now. A simple analogy chosen specifically because it was so easy to understand and grasp, and yet it evades your grasp like a fine mist. I think this probably happens to you a lot. I think you're probably oblivious to it.
I always turn in Jan Jansen to the authorities for tax avoision. Only a metagaming faggot would have any reason not to do this.
>>555408724It's the anti-futa schizo and the AI slop schizo and now the /pol/ schizo stop giving him attention it's all he craves to fill the void in his life
>>555409441I usually start as TN and let the game guide to whatever alignment my choices make, the exception is if I'm playing alignment restricted classes
>>555409000Killing hulrun is the lawful action because his obsession blinded him to the true enemy and jeopardized the city.
>>555409545You forgot one.
>>555409338>and a childIt's been repeatedly stated already that she's not a child anymore, just acts like one and has been around Kenabres for so long that she gets treated as one. She's probably the elf equivalent of Woljif's age.(And also that has nothing to do with the fact that killing Hulrun is a lawful act, no matter what you are)
>>555409459Martial rape
>>555409461>saar is still mad
>>555409571Hulrun is correct about most things, there really were cultists under the city and the Desna acolytes really were in contact with a demon
>>555409571Killing Hulrun is the lawful option because he's impeding you from performing your duty.
Yeah Hulrun burn that kid and her dad!!!!
>>555409702"Saar" is something people say here as a response to someone seeming ESL, usually because of poor reading comprehension or poor writing. It would make more sense for me to call you "saar", but you don't understand context or meaning. You just know that you've seen people call each other "saar" during arguments before, and now you're in an argument and you're going to speak the magic incantation again. You can never understand how stupid this is because the entire language and the concept of language is impossible for you.
Will WotR ever be topped?
itt: chaos melty
>>555409934WotR gets topped every night. One of the worst games ever hyped here.
>>555409925>I am brahmin saar pls do be of respecting me
>>555409934nah crpgs peaked there for sure
>>555409586real?
>I'm lawful, but I sometimes commit chaotic actions >I'm straight, but I sometimes take dicks up my assyeah okay buddy whatever you tell yourself
>>555410059We do NOT tolerate racism in /crpgg/.
>>555409934Wotr is a bottom desu. Kingmaker is more of a top.
>>555409586Nah, the namefag is much smarter than you, even though you care a great deal about projecting intelligence through your /pol/ schizobabble
>>555410136It was for the good of the world anon, you understand.
>>555410059Having seen /b/ trolls double down and "pretend" to be retarded, you now attempt to do the same despite not understanding the context or purpose of the words. "Abra cadabra, stop making fun of me and pretend I'm not stupid! Saar!"
>>555410217hi mintharafag
elf wives
>>555410108It's real.
>>555410043>>555410186faggot
>Start an argument>Immediately start thinking about gay sex
what does it feel like to rub halos together?
>>555410136You have to understand, futanari is not gay as long as there are no balls.
>>555410217>projecting intelligenceBrutal self reporting.
who else is high af right now? does this look about right?
A lawful character is magically unable to drink a beer before the law says they're old enough
>>555410446Balls are fine, as long as there is also a pussy.
>>555410518>pulse and blow>arousal effectsThis is a porn game right?
>>555410518Portrait hardly matches the model
>>555410551the law is the lawthe only exception is defying 4chan jannies, that's not chaotic it's sensible
>>555410602It's AI slop.
>>555410518Too much spell list overlap
>>555410656But what if the law is unjust, bitch? Did you ever consider that?
>>555394469atleast one MILF/mommy romance
>>555410518What game?
>>555410660Thats one of the base portraits in the game schizo.
play toys with me...
>>555410836Grim
>>555410775Sorry anon, by definition, the law cannot be unjust.
>>555410825Naturally.
>>555410775lawful neutral and evil wouldn't care much, lawful good might depending on the context
>>555410829Black geyser
>>555410775you're free to fight the lawbut the law will win
>>555410775Low IQ people hate nuance.
>>555410518Druid is maybe the actual worst class in that game.
I can't believe alignments were removed from d&d for like a decade but you pathfinder spergs are STILL wasting time on this trite shitI fucking hate owlbabs so fucking much
>>555410959Oh cool, since it says templar/druid does it have the IE game multiclass style?
>>555410775Our alignment is is Lawful, not Justful
>>555410917Trvth Nvke
>>555411068>I can't believe alignments were removed from d&dthe BG3 cast are much less interesting because of it
>>555411152This thread just proves why absolute alignments are bad
>>555411068just because people want character personality, motivation, history, and decision making to be narrowly defined in easily categorized boxes with no variation from instance to instance doesn't make them spergs
>>555411068Pozzfinder is all about retreading the same path that DnD moved on from a decade ago.
>>555410364Mandatory for a crpg to be good
>>555411079Its been awhile sent I've played it but is just has regular gesalting.
>>555411231absolute alignments are fun for roleplayingyou need restrictions and contrasts, things get boring when everyone is the same globohomo sludge
>I AM THE LAW!
In Wrath of the Righteous how do I dismiss my horse or keep it from following me into buildings?
>>555411152you're right, only Lae'zel and Astarion are interesting. Their respective alignments being close to Lawful Evil and Pathetic Evil
>>555411384Why would you want to do that
>>555411068None of these retards are even talking about alignment as it’s depicted in pathfinder
>>555411418Because horses live outside. I don't take them into tents with me.
Im pretty much a chaotic neutral rogue irl.
>>555411497If you're cold, they're cold. Let them in.
>>555410364elf wife
I'm a chaotic good attractive woman irl
I'm pretty much a commoner with 10 in all stats irl
>>555411537Quick a old lady fell down the stairs!
>>555411497>Because dogs live outside. I don't take them into tents with me.Do you hear yourself?If you're cold, they're cold.
>>555411657What's your constitution score? I like women with at least 16 con
>every single piece of art i dont like is AII know what you are
>>555411615The camp has fires, they're fine. There's no room for them inside, and I wouldn't want to subject my horse to demons anyways. If this were baldur's gate 3 they would have handled it better.
>>555411737I help her up and steal her wallet at the same time.
>>555411762They will never finish the adwr 2 remake
>>555411762I'm probably an 8.
>>555411068Alignments are cool because the underpin and facilitate Planescape and the Great Wheel Cosmology. Which is so good that 5e brought it back despite removing alignments. That said I'm okay with mortal alignments being fuzzier than that of gods and outsiders. I think it's better to view people having more of a probabilistic cloud of alignment than a rigid setting. A "LG" is more likely to act in lawful or good ways, but may occasionally act chaotically or selfishly depending on the situation. I think the way the Pathfinder games track alignment even does a good job reflecting this.
What's next after DH?AoS game?
>>555411897Wholesome
>>555412038Black Crusade
>>555412038No one likes AoS outside of the people playing it tabletop. The one big AoS game they made bombed spectacularly. So no.
>>555412038delta green. They are clearly going urban fantasy next.
>>555412008>be average NG joe but on the edge of neutral or good>commit one (1) chaotic action>commit one (1) evil action>I'm now no longer Neutral but Chaotic>I'm now no longer Good but Neutral>I'm now CNnah this shit is stupid in a video game that tracks scores
>>555407969What if I perform acts that are arguably morally good purely for selfish reasons? (I think it's funny, it spites someone else, I'm trying to guilt someone into a romance (that's not rape))
>>555411804Your horse is a magic demon killing horse
>>555412738And he's still a horse so he doesn't come into the shop with me.
>>555391565I do too but her actual build is fucking boring as sin.
Nenio is clearly a female weeb redditors self insert.
>>555413106she turns into an animal so she's probably from one of the faggots here actually
>>555412824Bigot
>>555412469That's what I mean as a probabalistic cloud. As a mortal flip flopping means your actual alignment is just in between. And the specific situation you suggest can't happen in the game. The alignments are full wedges Neutral takes up space. At most you could go from Neutral Good to Chaotic Good. And for that to happen you already have to be more or less just True Neutral leaning Good-Chaotic Good.
>>555413354>are full wedgesaren't full wedges
>>555413354my probabilistic alignment occupies the entire wheel I'm just undefinable like that
what's the point of space settings without aliens
>>555413553That's one way of being True Neutral.
>>555413646lekku are erogenous and suckable
>>555413685ummm no I'm not TN I'm everything and nothing at once
>>555413646Tech
New thread?
>>555413710apparently they keep their brains in there. instead of a nice, hard skull
>>555413710head penis
>>555413803I hope not
>>555413646I wish you boring retards actually wanted aliens and not just elves but blue
>>555413553>t:
>>555391717I'm honestly considering quitting or restarting my wrath run at gray garrison because I played with an excessive ammount of power from mods and house rules but still manage to get crit and one shot to death by just about everything that moves in that game. I'm playing on unfair mind you. It's just ridiculous you know. the entire game is already basically RNG because table top, but you'd really think using isekai mod would give you the kind of advantage that would keep you from getting a game over for most of the game. I'm genuinely seething. Maybe the worst part is that owljew still refused to let you begin the prologue with as many mercs as you want. you MUST go through the entire shield maze with a -24 (didn't it used to be -48 too?) ability point penalty while taking 2x damage protected only by characters who cant cast useful spells or defend against any attack and survive.afaik the only way through the early game on this difficulty that isn't expected to just save scum their way through is SoD builds and if I can be honest that's one of the least fun ways to play this game for me. Everything when you do that is about dumping all your stats to pump one, nuking the encounter with sleep spells or other 1/ko attacks, then resting. I could reduce the damage of the enemies and increase their HP but while I am 300% for increasing encounter HP theres no way to give enemies more action economy so the more HP they get, the more valuable that play style becomes. at the same time leaving unfair on is starting to make me hate the game and myself. It's still not as hard as ng nightmare kurts but what is?>>555391749>yfw you realize kyuubei is supposed to look like madoka.
Camellia probably has armpit hair.
>>555413870hello bantha fucker
>>555413719Yeah, that's a way of acting neutral. Not every neutral person is going to be like a Futurama neutral.
>>555411384toybox, party, pets, unrecruit. this will only work on the screen you are on and must be redone at each area. that said its very easy to just deselect them and leave them be and then if your buffs are that important to you teleport party to yourself to move to the next area. that said I am not impatient so I just wait it out.
>https://easydamus.com/alignmenttest.html>I'm a fucking fencesitterShamefur dispray
>>555413870irl aliens are probably humanoid to a startling degree (convergent evolution)They're not super-intelligent liquids or writing masses of tentacles.
>>555414179means you haven't been radicalized yetnot sure if that's a good or bad thing
>>555414247le carcinisation tier meme misunderstanding of evolution
Irl aliens are probably reptiles because we had to have a meteor take out a dinosaurs to give us a chance.
>>555414514Please explain why sentient alien life will be sapient slime or a mass of living chitin, or whatever incomprehensible nonsense you imagine, without resorting to buzzwords
>>555414550Dinosaurs were already struggling and were becoming more and more confined to the megafauna niche. On the medium scale mammals were eating their lunch, and on the smaller scale birds were replacing traditional dinosaurs as the modern dino-form.There was no sort of dinosaur from which a sentient life form would have evolved, and they were crippled by being unable to provide milk for their young, stuck as they were in the egg paradigm.Without the asteroid, we would have dinosaurs instead of elephants and giraffes, but smaller more intelligent life forms would be mammals.
>>555414179for me it's CNno reaction
>>555414612You first saar
>>555414612please explain why it would not be le crab the ultimate lifeform(convergent evolution)
Mammal fag cope paragraph above me, reptile CHADS currently control your government btw.
Nenio? Funny.
>>555414179i got le, which is hilarious given it's the stereotype for my profession
>>555414884Hey me too fellow individualist
>>555414179fuck im an NPC...
>>555415119Lawyer-kun...
>>555414179test was mega long but I gotI got chaotic neutral
>>555414928As seen on earth, in a given environmental niche, unrelated organisms converge on very similar body plans. Sea lions/dolphins/sharks, thylacines/canines, and the great profusion of unrelated round, furry digging mammals. There are both birds and bats, but there are no atmospheric gasbag floatersOn land, four limbs are most energy efficient above the scale of an insect, and the fore-limbs are well positioned to develop into hands. See how raccoons use their pseudo-hands. Bipedal locomotion is the next step, and you pretty much have a humanoid body plan.>but birdsBirds are forced to use their beak and one foot at best for manipulation, which is a massive handicap.
>>555414247Not sure I agree given that the most intelligent animals aren't just apes or even roughly similar land mammals but also corvids, cetaceans and most importantly Octopuses. Convergent Evolution is absolutely a thing. But I dont really see how intelligence would specifically drive to a bipedal humanoid form. The convergent pressure for intelligence is probably largely the pressure of getting enough extra calories to fuel an expensive brain. So maybe the closest pressure I could think would be "forms that can cook food on a fire or otherwise pre-process food." But still, I don't think event that leads inevitably to a humanoid form.
>>555414179Bad test. These situations are heavily context dependent and with no context I cannot select the correct answer.
>>555414179>Got chaotic good even though im chaotic evil irlBad test
>>555414179Detailed Results:Alignment:Lawful Good ----- (19)Neutral Good ---- (23)Chaotic Good ---- (20)Lawful Neutral --- (13)True Neutral ---- (17)Chaotic Neutral - (14)Lawful Evil ----- (9)Neutral Evil ---- (13)Chaotic Evil ---- (10)Law & Chaos:Law ----- (6)Neutral - (10)Chaos --- (7)Good & Evil:Good ---- (13)Neutral - (7)Evil ---- (3)Haha, my alignment sure does shock me, but maybe I shouldn't be suprised. I'm a massi/v/e homosexual.
Amiri? Tummy.
>>555415282I accept your concession.
>>555414179I also got True Neutral
All you spergs picking the evil options on the test are fucking posers unless you have been to jail.>Uh I've never been caught!You're not some mustache twirling evil mastermind manipulating people like puppets for your pleasure, you are a fat nerd.
>>555415073Dinosaurs were NOT reptiles. They were warm blooded.
>>555415554just like ur mom lmao
>>555415554Cuddling Bismuth
>>555415287>So maybe the closest pressure I could think would be "forms that can cook food on a fire or otherwise pre-process food.I very much agree with this. Without being able to cook food, energy intake remains a bottleneck. Humans are in a way already and artificial lifeform. Our huge brains depend on cooked food, and the ability to hunt in an organized way, and we have been wearing clothing for much of our evolutionary history.
>>555415757>>555415757>>555415757
>>555415518I shall not be DISHONORED
>>555414179>Do you like transfolx>YesYou are Lawful Good! No further questions needed morally superior intellectual gigachad>NoYou are Chaotic Evil (Hitler/Trump) No futher questions needed chudcel
>>555415282You're oversimplifying a lot of random mutation down to a typical pokemon-like more human = more evolved level understanding.
>>555415518I picked run away on the crime ones, I am NOT going to prison
>>555415935hes not focused on the mutations at all, hes simply making a correct observation without any theorizing at all; living beings don't tend to randomly evolve with convergent evolution because of the utility of said evolution but because they are being pulled into some kind of evolutionary niche like gravity and it's that environment that causes the convergent evolution. such environments like: water, dirt, forests, sky, grasslands, etc.
>>555413953Watch werglia's first playthrough. It's nothing but>figure out the fight in 2 or 3 attempts>spend another 10-20 attempts quickloading until you get the rng to beat it.Unfair for the sane is strictly for subsequent playthroughs when you know what's coming and can plan for it well in advance.
>>555417979I do know whats coming, I've gotten all the way to drezen. I've also been in real pathfinder games where enemies the DM customed designed have had 200 HP at level 2. we defeated them. basically no one died because enemies aren't given a 200% damage multiplier, but if you even dare adjust some of this nigger shit the game mocks you for doing so. you just die too fast and have zero options for recovery in the early game period. playing on unfair isn't just committing to a harder game, it means any critical injury or roll results in a game over period. I'm not losing to not having a plan. I'm losing to the fact that enemies will eventually get a turn and eventually they will roll a few 17s or 18s on a character in a row even with protective luck and that character will fucking die on the 2nd or 3rd hit. 1st if the character happens to be under level 3.
>>555416585Except the assertion here is that sentient alien life is likely to evolve near identically to humans because of convergent evolution. We're not just talking about basic environmental adaptations that we can't even entirely assume to be true of alien species evolving in a completely separate environment without the common ancestors all of those species share on earth.Humans are the result of very specific environmental adaptations that happened because of a whole load of random chance. There's no reason to believe that we're the perfectly adapted evolutionary pathway to sentience. That's not even true on our own planet.
>>555418858humans convergent evolution is a fact of evolutionary history even if I am not a big proponent of good goy basedance. it's just that humans also killed off all of their competitors and then jews started reclassifying subspecies as the same for nefarious reasons.The deciding factor for intelligence seems to be slow dying world type situations; ice ages, droughts, climate shiftings, etc. especially the way the brain stem has this kind of progression between fish>lizards>mammals>humans that suggests repeated instances of this created that evolutionary niche that stressed these abilities multiple times.
