Your Vyper Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>555862741
Hidden king advantage is real
>get ivy randomly in brool>shes kinda funI finally get it
>>555898406I hope they never change vyper, or atleast keep the goofy look
test
What's the counterplay to Rem fucking off into a hole
>>555898526The vents aren’t supposed to be accessible if he’s in combat but it’s bugged right now
I take it back after more testing. Gun Graves -does- have some potential but the items are so weird, this is more like late game pivot than focusing on it. Even still, this is def a more stand behind a someone else and deal damage type of thing, but I guess if you only need 3-4 items for your Tombstone pushing, there's a build that will work. Unfortunately, I'm not good enough at this game to see if it actually will ever work in high rankings. You probably just get deleted in the 8 second it takes deal that damage. Maybe vampiric (she benefits massively from the bonus ammo) + ricochet to stall out your death?
>>555898406somewhere is new york theres a stripper thats a 1:1 copy of paige
>>555898638it's mina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ULhmBkWjEI kinda miss Yammies old VA, the off Japanese was cool. Also,>3:59>7:28>15:16
>none of the new heroes is a tank
graves is so cute and sexy
>>555898638Vyper being lesbian or at least bi is unironically so fucking cool. Its like yeah its a shooting game but the characters feel real
>>555898567I honestly don't like this feature.
rate heroes based on whether they would be pro or anti ICE
>>555898694appolo will be your pseudo tank
>>555898694Fencer is a tank
now that's a good OP
>>555898750All would be against, better rank them how likely they would be to kill the orange fascist
>>555898526Fuck him off in his hole?
>>555898785>>555898794meds
do you think victor and venator have sweaty old man sex?
>>555898897He's a tank
>>555898619her gun is incredibly over powered what are you talking about, she steals damage from the enemies and beats nearly everyone but haze
>>555898694AWOOOOOOOOOOOO my wife is a tank
>>555898735I don't even mind it but your post is fucking cringe bluesky shit.
Why global fire rate buff reduction? Faster firing=more funare the devs retarded?
>>555899006
>>555899037Because gun builds were too strong compared to spirit builds
>bebop turbo nerfedwhy?
>>555898978It's short range and can't headshot, so in the time it takes to close the distance, you're gonna be losing a chunk of hp that you can't really afford to give up for free.
>>555898750>passionately proLash, Geist, Drifter>proHaze, Mina, Warden, maybe Yamato>antiAbrams, Bebop, Gray Talon, Holliday, Vindicta, Infernus, Mirage, McGinnis, Kelvin, Shiv, Victor, Pocket, Wraith, Sinclair>passionately antiIvy (duh), Vyper, Dynamo, Paige, M&K, Billy, Paradox>too weird to careSeven, Doorman, Rem, Viscous
>*executes you with his crossbow*Your response?
>>555899439i post the epicurean paradox, causing his head to explode
>>555898978>mediocre base ammo count>no headshots>short range>low base damage>character with no mobility at allIt's fantastic for lane farming with split shot, and the debuff on it is very strong, but in no way is she able to compete with any proper gun carry.
Fleetfoot might just be my favorite itemIt makes any character feel better while shootingPlus it helps with map traversal
>>555899439how can I respond if I have been executed? fucking retard
>>555899556>>555899250she steals 80% of their damage, and with the upgrade two at a time. nuff said
Highguard killed all the Deadlock momentum
>>555899639The patron resurrects your during the ritual baka
>>555899392whats billys shtick again? hes hates everything or he just hates the government?
First, third, last, she'll be hereDread her, run from her, werewife arrives all the same
>>555899898Dude I dont give a shit about your transbian coded hero
>>555899734Quite literally he's a rebel without a cause who just kind of hates everythingVinny even calls him out on it
>>555899734he's an idiot. he wants to be mad. he's just an asshole. very much like a goat. vindicta puts it best, that as much as he gripes, he doesnt do anything about it. he has no ideas of better alternatives. he's just a dumbass bundle of rage. he is what he hates, just something that makes the world worse. beloved chud.
>>555900000CHECKED retard
>>555899915>lashbiankek
I AM LEANING HEAVILY TO VOTING VENATOR BC HE LOOKS VERY COOL... IF HE CAN PLAY BRUISER I WILL.....
>>555900000based and true
>>555900245He is an anti-tank, that's all we know
>>555900000QUINTS OF TRUTH HOLY SHIT
>>555900286We know most of his kit already, he’s got a gun, a grenade, a censer, a bear trap, and a crossbow that can execute like Shiv’s ult
>>555900286how can he be a squishy m1 if he is so bulky, he has to have high hp pool based on his model
>>555899648The damage steal isn't instant though. Anyone with movement skills or item can disengage while breaking your build up. I tried to encourage sharpshooter into a build to lower that, but it's not ideal.She also has no other reliable damage since her skulls and zombies can be slowed/destroyed with aoe. Other heroes can just nuke you while still gunning you down.The scariest thing about Gun Graves is that she doesn't miss, so any item that has builds up % chance is super strong on. She gets big damage from Lucky Shot, Tesla, and Toxic bullets. Silencer has potential too especially with ricochet, but you only have so many slots until you're too greedy and easy, squishy target with no escape.
>>555899915>the left cant memeexplain this kek protip:you can't!
>>555900445Stuff like that can be changed tbf
Venator has 5 skills one of which is a passive
>>555898406yeah there's no fucking way they don't break this bitch's knees with a hammershe's like victor except victor damages himself and has a chargeup for his aura, gun graves just can melt people if she wantsi had 20k souls stashed, piece of shit game lasted a whole hour
>>555900636What I listed is his latest iteration pretty much. His old kit used to be based around resists which is why he was “anti-tank”
>>555898406Any build or tips to keep in mind for mina?
Calico kinda uggo but she looks like she gives the best head out of the entire cast
SILVER
>>555901071future hats will fix her looks, no worries
>>555900848Gun graves is shit
>>555899648Yeah good luck doing that on the Wraith who can just shoot you to death in the time it takes you to slowly walk into range, and then teleport away before you can get two ticks in
>>555901108...and other seeker tales
>>555899392Wouldn't Drifter be against because they take away his own easy targets?
>>555898694People theorize that Silver is one
>>555901151...on opposite day
>>555901165Drifter would join ICE to get to kill random people for free
>>555900000
>>555901348True, good plan.
>>555901348But he already kills random people for free
>>555900000>quints wasted on affirming tranny headcanon bullshitKill yourself
>Brawl>Viscous>Puddle punch build>Get Seraphim wingsI was such a nuisance
>>555901143>>555900553you lack brainpower to make it work, and that's okay
>>555901652>ad hominem and no argument in 2000 + 26???
>>555901469It's like sitting around jerking off and playing video games. You're gonna do it anyway, but if you can get a license to do it then why not
>>555901257...as told by a liar! huzzah!
Just noticed that they added new melee animations for Yamato.Can't wait to start playing my main once her new visuals drop.
sweaty...vampire...pits...
>>555901835why does she look retarded
>>555901903women are best when theyre a little retarded
>>555901835>vampire sweat
>>555901903mina players always are
>first calico game>ping suddenly jumps to 2000This mightve been the worst hero and worst experience for high ping ever
https://youtu.be/4m_dXg-fKOU
>>555901701But then you'd be tracked and put in some database instead of living free and doing it for the love of the gameAnd a vampire who both shuns his people's society and forgot his own name doesn't strike me as someone who wants to be part of any kind of organization
>>555901835Eh should have been a femboy
Playing 6v6 should give you a bigger slice of the coin
Hero idea: Charon, a psychopomp that moonlights as a taxi driver.
>>555901835she's south korean she's probably flat as fuck
>[YouTube] Mina needs a fug (embed)
>>555898735dude Vyper is full yandere for Lashshe's bi at most
>>555902449I like it. Give him some kind of group transport skill as his ult.
>0 and 8 yamato on a smurf account proceeds to argue with the whole team that it is anyone but their fault we lost when they would make the worst fucking plays known to man
do yall think Graves listens to MF DOOM?
>>555898694>league playerDota doesn't have tanks, just initiators, the tankiest is just the most farmed hero
>>555902715Warden fucks this
>>555902715what does this have to do with deadlock
>>555902640>their>theyYamato is not Pocket retard, stop misgendering characters
>>555901690Dont know what to tell you dude, she has area denial/control abilities that force people into your autos. If you cant build around certain matchups to make use of the auto you are simply stupid. Not writing a novel/tutorial for you to do it
>>555902584>critical + killing spree iconsGenius
Is Sharpshooter worth it on graves?
>>555903112no
>>555902614I was thinking>wrapped up in a thick coat, scarf, and hat (either bowler or a paperboy cap), like you'd expect of a mid 20th century cab driver in the winter>visibly undead, wether that's a skeleton, zombie, or other is whatever>smoking>one skill is a cleave with either a quickly manifested scythe or an oar, depends if you want the name to be a reference or more literal>again keeping the ferryman theme, I'd want some kind of unique charge on a skill or ult, Coins. Like how Charon was meant to be paid. Get them from deaths? Global? Local? Enemy only or ally only or both? Either way, really satisfying coin flip sfx when you get one, ideally with Charon himself flicking it in his hand>spend coins to use the skill or ult>gentlemanly in a gruff workman sort of way, tired and overworked contrasting Doorman's formal perfectionism
>>555902775i know literacy is hard, i'm referring to the player playing as yamato not yamato herself
>>555903112no, don't bother with a lot of gun items except fire rate ones
>>555903482bigot
>>555903606>>555903473>>555903356your thread is on other side gooner
>>555900000wasted by pol tourist
>be graves>big team fight happening>have maxed 4>press 4 in middle of teamfight>immediate triple killEXPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSIONS
I'm probably in the minority but this new heroes and their kits being so different and unique it makes me wish they revisit and the previous onesmirage, paradox, sinclair, calico and maybe more need a new ability or different effects on current ones
>>555904068Only agree on calico. The others have interesting kits
>>555902449>>555903362Ah shit I think I need to go make an MSpaint abomination later I'm really thinking on this one>aside from his normal fare, is sometimes spotted around the city driving the recently departed to *somewhere*
>reddit seething about metro again
>>555904272literal who
>>555899734he's just a man with a vague idea of something trying to fight the man, for some reason
>>555903762man I haven't seen a virgin/chad edit in years
>>555902640>next game get 0 and 13 mcginnis
>>555898406HUGE DISCORD LEAKSilver winning
>>555901903She's canonically of Korean ancestry. Since her parents are established in NYC and sent her to an elite school, that means she's an Asian-American = giga retarded
>>555904810I still don't understand how people lose lane as Mcginnis. You should win lane so easy, there's very little anyone can do.
>>555904910so mina is for bbc instead of the lesbians
Is there a virgin/sexhaver list for this game?I want to know which characters I'm allowed to main.
>>555898406Is the entire playerbase just Dota 2 graduates? I haven't met a Memelock player who didn't come from Dota.
>>555905057Then you haven't met me.
>>555905003grey talon, geist, and calico have children.holliday has been married several times.vyper and billy casual sex.
>>555902614>>555904213Does this sound like a balanced ult?>passive: large amounts of player deaths leave "waypoints" on the map, visible only to Charon>hard limit of how many there are on the map, oldest decay for the newest>they notify Charon of enemy presence, but not who, how many, or in what condition they're in>Active: choose a waypoint. Enter a long channel. Can be cancelled early. Teleport to Waypoint dealing damage nearby and giving barrier to any friendlies transported >longer channels mean more allies may be brought with you, and increased damage and barrier at the exit>when channeling has voicelines for the rough destination "last call, blue lane!" "last call, Archmother" etc teleports with a cab appearing and disappearing>maybe have the mentioned coin mechanic earlier be a cap on how long you can channel, and by extension how many allies you can bring with you and how strong the barrier and damage is>makes for a quick selfish escape (but solely to "hotspots" on the map) or a powerful but long channel team engagement/reinforcement tool
>>555903112No. All it does is take your range from 18m to 21m. It's a fucking nothingburger on her.
>>555904979No, she's also canonically one of those Asian-Americans who have their entire personality built around being desperate social climbers.>Wanted to marry some White Anglo-Saxon Protestant[TM] guy so she can elevate her status even more>He dies>She seethes until her parents pay to have her turned into a vampire to calm her down>She's happy for 0.1 seconds>Then she discovers that because Deadlock vampire society(like most fictional vamp societies) is a hierarchy based on "the guy who turned you gets to call you a nigger, but the guy who turned that guy calls HIM a nigger, and the chain goes all the way back to whoever is the oldest vampire with the most underlings" she is at the very bottom of the vampire societal ladder>Seethes>Participates in the Patron summoning shit because she wants to be top dogBasically from BWC-chasing Asian American to potentially becoming Vampire Hitler(if her wish takes the form of "I want to be the highest-ranked vampire" maybe it's a Monkey's Paw situation that nukes all other vamps. Hell, maybe she would want that)
>>555905057I haven't played any MOBAs before, but I played CS:GO.
>>555905057i dont like hero shooters and i dont like mobas but i like deadlock (after 200 hours)
>>555905286>one of those Asian-Americans who have their entire personality built around being desperate social climbers.this is LITERALLY every single gook in c*lifornia
>>555905437Well yeah the stereotype exists for a reason.
>>555905057I've played 3000 hours of war thunder
>pick random for brawl >mirage 8 games in a rowWHY
>>555905003graves is a virgin being an emo that doesn't like peoplevindicta is a virgin because she died at a young agehaze is a virgin devoted to her countryivy is a virgin, she probably doesn't have a pussygeist had sex and is a grandmavyper is a whoreholliday was married so she had sex toowraith is also a whore
>>555904068Not all characters need to be as unique/different/convoluted/etc as the new heroes. Some characters being basic like Haze or McG are good unironically.
>>555905286pocket is very distinctly korean looking tho
>>555903362this sounds pretty cool. i like the flavor>1: summoned scythe melee attack, grants an extra coin on kill/assist. takes a little bit to channel. alt-cast spends a coin and gives you a calico-like lunge>2: bone-armor sort of thing, shields for every recently deceased trooper/player nearby. alt-cast costs a coin and also 'detonates' the deceased corpses. t3 decreases ally respawn time>3: coin passive. get coins on kills or assists. active allows you to spend a coin for boosted stamina regen and movement speed. charged, so you can't just hoard infinite coins. t2 lets you place them on allies, t3 upgrade has a trophy-collector like effect for each coin, or maybe souls on spending coins >4: taxi that sucks up any player or trooper it collides with (each player costs a coin to pick up), moves very fast (scaling with spirit). grants charon a shield while driving, ult ends early if the shield is broken. on colliding with a wall or objective, explodes and scatters everyone within around
>>555905286>wishes to be the top dog vampire>due to the way their hierarchy works, the patron just fucking kills every vampire in vampire "society" (hoboGODS unaffected) except her or the few vampires below her
>>555904848This is probably not happening. Silver fans don't play the game and don't vote. Except me
>>555905654Idk what relation that has to my post.
>>555905768pocket is the guy mina was going to marry
>>555905679>due to the way their hierarchy works, the patron just fucking kills every vampire in vampire "society" (hoboGODS unaffected) except her or the few vampires below herpretty sure this is part of why she seethes so hard. Fashionable rich girl who went to Magic Harvard is mogged in vampire society by a literal hobo because Drifter is older than her
Lorewise why doesnt Drifter just rape Mina
>>555906048Because he's not a smelly sex-obsessed incel like (You)
>>555906073He is smelly and an incel though
>>555906048because mina is annoying and stinks
>>555905164really depends on the channel time. also sounds funny for backdooring>when channeling has voicelines for the rough destination "last call, blue lane!" "last call, Archmother" etc teleports with a cab appearing and disappearingsovl
>>555900481His WIP version currently in the files has him with around the same HP as Drifter.
>>555906048He has standards, unlike minafags.
>>555906073>homeless guy in manhattan>not smellyhe sleeps under bridges and eats people and never bathes, you KNOW that nigga taint stank go absolutely retarded, straight up fungal
Hello,if you get obvious newbies on the enemy team please do not bully them too much and give them one pointer or two in chat. This will foster a positive sentiment among newcomers and be beneficial to the game's health in the long run. Thanks in advance!Regards,
>>555906104How can he be an incel when he rapes random women
>>555906048When you're 300+ old rape is probably mundane. At least with murder you can do it in a lot of ways to keep it refreshing. But rape? Its the same every time.
>>555906187haha could someone mod his ult to make it a massive stink cloud haha
>>555906187he even has piss stains
>>555906192I told them what to buy when I was 1v6ing them and I got told to stop being toxic.
>>555906187>Exclusively a carnivoreHis shit logs must be as dense as depleted uranium. NYC public sanitation workers call him the Brown Bomber of the Bronx
>>555902438They want to incentivize people to play brawl so they can get data, standard being worse to gain points is intentional.
What is drifter's lore anyway
>>555906192Being nice doesn't fix the fact they are in my game at all griefing me. Also this; >>555906267
Invoker hero when?Voodoo Shaman hero when? (mnk does not count)Magical Girl hero when?Leprechaun hero when?
>>555899006>>555899124I sincerely hate you guys and hope you have a very bad week.
>>555906329>Exclusively a carnivoreThis applies to Mina tooImagine her backing away from a teamfight because she can feel her asshole starting to strainBreaking into a random apartment buildingSquatting down and then unloading harder than when she uses her ult
>>555906358oldeats peoplenot fancy
>>555906387Theyve already shown they are dumbing down heroes in deadlock compared to dota so dont expect anything remotely similar in complexity to invoker
>>555906427>sees her teammates hp drop to critical so she runs back out to help without wiping
>>555901078Its our week boysss>AAAWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOO000000ooooo
>>555902438what coin?
>>555902584tags:>reverse_rape, biting, female_rapist, crazy_eyes
>>555906387my money's on a gnome illusionist who can enter the tunnels and a chinaman alchemist tank who drinks mercury / grinds up tiger balls for eternal life
How long until next hero releases?>t. not home and can't log on to check
Give me a techies hero already and make it a cute shortstack girl that can go in the underground tunnels.
>>555905670Ult was kind of like a team oriented, limited location Mirage ult as mentioned here >>555905164I was thinking a coin collecting passive for 3 yeah, but different buffs for different states? Something along the lines of no coins converts X stat into resist, and gives regen, and for each coin gained gain more damage (and speed?) and less resistance and regen. So if you spent all your coins on your ult, you would enter with your whole team as a bruiser (and as a side effect have bad damage but good tanking in lane phase). But if you only ever spent no/single coin ults where it's just you or one other ally zipping around you'd be a fast damage dealing ganker.So>something spamable to compensate for the long CD ult, and having a passive. Skillshot w/charges? To keep it engaging>scythe/oar cleave 2, maybe get regen fo each target hit, less from minions?>coin passive. "Ferryman's Due">teleport ult>kinda tanky generally, but can build for a faster 1v1 bruiser playstyleSoCHARON[INITIATOR] [QUICK DRIVE] [TAKES TIPS]gonna draw some stuff later when I’m in from work
>>555906569Monday.
>>555906625[HITS FAST] [DRIVES FASTER] [CASH ONLY]
>Game becomes popular>Instead of respecting the game's setting and aesthetics, newfags just start demanding characters from their previous games be added
Have people stopped picking Rem yet I just want to play him
>>555906240>Whistles at a distanceI really like how they depict the characters personalities via gameplay, being chased by Drifter and Vindicta while low is the scariest experience in the game.
>>555906721>>555906625>>555905670Good idea all around. Game needs an underlord 5-man teleport and its a taxi driver.
Are Vindicta's tits really that big on her model beneath her blouse or did every single Deadlock artist decide at the same time to give her fat milky DD cups in every artwork of her?
>>555906358very old vampire (at least 300 or so probably).Does not pretend to be refined or high class like other vampires, seems to treat his condition as something to embrace as a means to basically becoming an apex predator. Moves from place to place for hunting. He's the antithesis of the vampire society Mina is trying to move through.Actually knowledgeable and quite wise, which makes sense given his age but you won't see it expressed much except in a few voice interactions.According to Viper he's a legend in the OKC (a prison? so I guess the criminal underworld knows Drifter by reputation).To those who don't know him he looks like a smelly hobo, to those who do he's a monster to be feared. Has a past with Shiv but we don't know the details. I think Drifter is pretty cool, he has a lot of potential for links with a range of characters. Looking forward to seeing Venator seethe about him.
>>555906959>He doesnt know
>>555906959>Are Vindicta's tits really that big on her model beneath her blouse Not just that but her ass is fat too, she's Lady Geist-tier but hides it
>>555906959she needs those honkers to help her absorb recoil, its all part of the lore
>get into game>immediately get greeted by a russian dog barking orders>three other russians start screaming at the top of their lungs blaming everyone and each otheri'm fucking NAE with 30 ping what are these actual snow niggers doing in my game
>>555906959>fat milky DD cupsDon't talk about her bosom like that, it's rude!
*steals your sinners and makes two lane creeps invincible*THANK YOU!!
>>555900553There is no way sharpshooter is worth, the movespeed reduction will outweigh the 2m it gives you
>>555906387>Invoker hero when?soon >Voodoograves>Magical Girl hero when?vindicta and paige>Leprechaun hero when?never
so if you're new you just get fucked right away because there is no matchmaking
>>555906959she looks flat but i believe her tits are really big, her ass is fat the current and previous model comfirm this
>>555906721Oh definitely like this one better.>>555906625Okay so thinking on the designs before I get home and try and draw shit what do you guys prefer>tall, lanky build, very thin, very skeletal, a little uncanny. Stereotypical intelligent undead/repear in build>average build, height, not too fat or too thin>a bit shorter and portly, break the skeleton stereotype, perhaps a bit more inline with cab driver stereotype, maybe more fitting as distinctly "tank"
>>555901832get that fucking health bar out of the way boy
>>555906959Big tits make her more imposing, but her ass is actually very fat.
>>555900553I think tesla/capacitor + fire rate is the way. Luckyshot only late game and toxic maybe just because its opShes got just under 10 bullets per second and the lightning on tesla caps at 20 bullets per second. So the goal should be tesla + 100% fire rate however you prefer then lucky shotThe reason you tesla focus is because its flat damage+ farmability so you want it early, plus the capacitor active will secure a ton of killsToxic is probably still op enough to shoehorn in at somepoint but im leaning later because its % based. Really you should be focusing squishy not tanks thobeit
>brawl>second round>enemy team is winning>retard dies and rage quits over it dooming his team to losespergs are so funny
>>555907964my gut says lanky skeleton but stout skeleton probably fits the cab driver theme better
think i'll stick with brawlthe moba shit is fucking terrible if you're new
>>555908189plebian
When new hero?
>>555906192okaybut i'll only do it because you posted neco arc>>555908435monday
>>555908435Delayed because you touch yourself
>>555908435Tomorrow
>>555901071I dont like Calico normally but she's attractive in her killstreak artIf they just fixed her hair she'd be hot probably
>>555906959she is pear shaped
>>555904068Out of these I only agree on Mirage
you're deadI tried to be niceit's overbuckle up boys and girls
>>555905640>ivy is a virgin, she probably doesn't have a pussywe can fix thatwe have the technology
>>555908860i'm not going down without a fight :)
>>555899179>pic relHe was a big nigger hero with self bomb, you could have echo shard yourself with 2 bombs, and just walk into enemies. That requires 0 skill and doesn't use his kit. Now using explosive upper and hook is required to bomb enemies instead of walking into shit like a retard.
>>555899659The current 24h peak for Deadlock was 88k, currently there are about 43k players online. Highguard has a peak of 13k with 10.5k current players.
>>555908860The Baxter Society has your numbuh
>>555908860time to pull out the big guns
i don't think i'm going to be playing normal games until they do something or release some notice about matchmakingthis sucks man
>>555909412Highguard killed the Deadlock momentum. We would be at 150k now without Highguard
>>555909483>me playing shiv>unthreathening and folds when focused by two people>enemy playing shiv>50k damage unkillable rape monke
>>555909426do they have phones in deadlock
how do i play paradox
>>555909484>infernus>no duration
>>555909824You dont. Its a pro comp hero
>>555909931honestly they were standing in the fire with me just going in circles so I didn't waste money on it and instead just got more damage to kill them faster
>>555909824In pubs? As a worse grenade geist with pickoff potential with your team.
so what's the benefit of the Baxter society cutting their arms off
>>555910296guess it's a ritual
>>555910296they're augmented arms so probably that
>>555910296To prevent masturbation within their organization
>>555910296the fake arms are a holdover from Neon PrimeI doubt they stick
>previous line-up and load-in let you check the shop and pick builds>now the shop tab is blocked by the character screen and patron but you can hear it openthis annoys meI just want to open the shop tab before I'm already on the zip
>New>People keep commending meI must be doing something right!
>>555910296could be a neon prime thing that falls away it does seem a bit odd to go totally unmentioned. Shiv's and GT's look a lot like future prosthetics, calico's is a bit less so but calico could get re-designed anyway. >>555909606I also have this issue, to me the key is knowing when to rely on your inherent tankiness and when to run away. That's an obvious thing to say so I don't really know how to explain it. I guess one thing i would say is that while yes your gun kind of sucks at range, it doesn't suck THAT much. I started laning a lot better with shiv when i realised deliberately going for head shots with his gun makes a difference at the medium-long range. That's not going to stop you from being the first to be focused in a team fight though, playerbase still has trauma of release shiv and they know exactly what you intend to do with your ult. But that's just part of the shiv experience. If the enemy team focuses you that gives your team-mates time to use their better team fight abilities. Also practice your jukes as shiv, often your 2 is a better escape tool than a damage dealer until you pump it with spirit items.
mo krill is unkillable wtf? full build graves and he still shits on me?
>>555909606every time I have an enemy shiv in my games they have like 7 kills by 10m
>>555910715graves can't 1v1 anyone except maybe paige or rem
>>555910749People never respect bloodletting is the issue
>>555909824she's in a pretty bad place at the moment, but you want her to be fat on stat items, a bit of everything, tanky, spirit, gun, it all gets used
>>555906959She’s a Quaker, she ate a lot of oatmeal
>>555910715have you considered not having a shit Graves build? I feel like there are a ton of traps with Graves
>We still have some fight left in us!
When playing support Ivy is there any reason to buy decay over healbane
Vindicta's punches really fucking hurt now that she stacks gun damage.
>>555899124The Mare is THIRD! Her Werewolf GF can be added 4th. And and Celeste is NOT trans. She's just a gay horse!
>>555910909if you're close enough for vindicta to melee you she should be dead
apollo tomorrowfollowed by celestethen venator and silver
>>555910894Decay is for specific target and when you know theyre healing/going to heal. healbane is your "use and forget it" imbued ability that you know covers / is spammable by spirit power
>>555910956ik, I'm not bitching, just amused at how nasty she can be at close quarters especially with stake.
>>555909710You made me curious so I ran around the map looking for a phone>no phone booths>no phoneswhen I was about to give up, I saw this ad.
whats the best 1v9 champion?
where is the graves gun tank build?
>Graves dominates Street Brawl>Is kind of bad in the real modeHopefully her strength in Street Brawl doesn't provoke Valve to not buff her She has such an awful laning phase and can't jungle so getting off the ground feels impossible against decent players
>>555911113Victor and Warden
>>555911113any m1gger as long as you know how to farm efficiently
Niggas that are obsessed with theorycrafting about a fictional character's sexuality are a different breed of 'people'
>>555911051If Apollo’s tomorrow I’ll eat my own cum
>>555911153Build splitshot
>>555911250theyre not people.
>>555911153>graves cant jungle
You voted for Venator right? Not stinky Silver?
>random pick dynamo in street brawl>use singularity on our mcginnis once to back them out from dying while they're ulting>complains to never do it again
>>555911153>She has such an awful laning phasebuy resto shotit makes you an impossible to kill lane demon**as long as you aren't being extremely retarded and are trading efficiently
>>555911307She has horrible damage in jungle unless you burn a 1 charge, and that's not sustainable>>555911282I know Splitshot does some whacky things with targeting that basically turns her autoaim into a cone, but I guess I haven't tried it in a real game yet.
I voted for Slork
>>555911382Other characters can build resto shot and be efficient with it and that doesn't make them unkillable. She gets a 1 charge for damage every other lane and inbetween she has the worst DPS gun in the game with horrible range. I just don't see how you trade efficiently with that.I'm going through Eternus games right now to see what I am missing, but it feels like a lost cause right now.
>>555911338
Vote Apollo or you're gay
>>555911418im positive yoshi said to himself "well this is a cool kit but.. i REALLY want slark in the game" and is just waiting to make a 1:1 copy for slark enjoyers
I haven't seen anything specific that explicitly puts Icefrog's name on DeadlockThey haven't mentioned him at all in any of the marketing. He could have literally just been a conceptman and every other person does the balance work. I simply refuse to believe he's autistic enough to do those Dota patches nowadays especially for how randumb and wacky they've gotten in the past 5 years
>>555911546An interesting dilemma, in both situations I end up gay
>>555911503nobody can be as efficient as graves because you literally cannot miss with the resto shot proc and fuck yourself.tag an enemy hero for a split second and get healed for 50 hp every 6 seconds.
>>555911556youre delusional.
>>555902710PB is the only one that comes close to being a tank and he's relatively new and still gets melted unless fed.
>>555911556If you check who's posting Deadlock updates, it leads to Icefrog's profile lil' bro.
>>555906192>>555906267>>555906378>team is 20k behind, losing every fight and walkers are left uncontested on defense and there's only so much I can do solo>yo guys we need to stop fighting in the enemy jungle so much they got two carries farming sidelanes while you do that>we need to farm out our side of the map>we need to pressure lanes in between that>we need to be on top of urn pick ups when they come>this this and this are great counter items for their team>team response:>YOOOOO AINT GOT TIME TO READ ALLAT >LOL CAN YOU AT LEAST WRITE THAT IN 1 PARAGRAPH >DUDE CALM DOWN IT'S JUST A GAME JUST PLAY and then the next time they'll wonder why I just call them niggers.
>>555911101There is also a hotdog cart near both bridges.
>>555911338Nah>up to 133 votes, pic if from when I had around 93.
Who *hasn't* poisoned someone in Atlantic City?
>>555911681This clip is practically older than your are albeit
>>555911503she's just an ult botbuild entirely for ult + stamina itemsskulls are only useful in a teamfight when the enemy is distracted by something elsewall needs to be placed behind the enemy so they backstep into it, however the cast range is too short making it risky to usegun steal is a meme, the idea is cool but it should be on a tank character who can make proper use of it, not someone who dies to a light breezei want to like her since i love summon characters but idk she just seems boring
>>555911897dead ass rn im unc status frfr
>>555911662>tag an enemy heroIf you get in range of an enemy hero they should be hitting you for more than 50
>>555907003>Looking forward to seeing Venator seethe about him.If venator is written as well as drifter it won't be seething so much as his apex enemy. Hell I wonder what lines they'd get on the same team.
>>555911965ok i'm not saying to run up to an enemy to touch them once when nothing is going on, do it when they're shooting troopers, reloading their guns, use movement and cover to get the hit in quick and get out if you feel like you're not going to take a good trade, etc.aren't you an eternus player
>>555911775>we need to be on top of urn pick ups when they comethe rest makes sense as far as playing from behind but i still don't get how exactly to best use urni feel like if you're in a spot where you won't be able to win a fight over urn due to them having a huge lead, trying to run it will just lead to them fighting you for it, killing you, and scoring an even bigger lead
furrylock players are not beating the allegations.
>>555911662yamato right click
>>555907498You're gonna be getting stamina mastery no matter the build IMO. It shouldn't hurt too much.>>555908123You're totally right. I didn't realize how much of a farm accelerator Tesla is, especially when you've got skulls up. Toxic is really economy for the damage it gives tho.
>>555912175>>555911775robbing the urn is waay more funny now.
>>555911987Wasn't there already some old mined lines about Drifter asking if Vatican is tired of sending hunters after him?
>>555912175If you can't win 6v5 it's already over.
>>555911987oh they are for sure going to have some fun lines when on same team.I admit I assume venator will be seething but it might be interesting to see if venator genuinely pities drifter as someone trying to become an animal and divest himself from him god-given humanity.But I imagine it's more likely they'll see each other as their great opposites and rivals. Really looking forward to Venator dropping, there's apparently a voice interaction with Holliday mentioning them praying together regarding Macombe I think. That's a nice detail.
>>555911338Venator after SilverI want to see what the werewolf mode does and how well it plays in a real gamewe basically know all of Venator's skills and I'm not curious
>>555911902>gun steal is a meme, the idea is cool but it should be on a tank character who can make proper use of it, not someone who dies to a light breezeBuild green items then? Like what
>>555911962>he's been working on deadlock for almost 20 yearsbased
>>555912175You dictate terms when you grab urn. You can freeze its state. Networths about to flip it neutral/enemy side? You can pick it up and drop it to freeze position for those 5 minutes. Play from roof and dash down. Absolutely cannot turn in? Go bait them from a safe position and congratulations you just pulled 4 people with ults away from the opposite walker. Get your team to push while you back that shit to base and then drop it on the floor.
>>555912263>literally no male representationWeird as fuck. Rem is a kid so he has no gender, and Billy is literally just a goat head on human body, even Drifter is more of a furry than him.
what if billy is just a loosh farmer trying to piss people off
>>555912417just building green doesn't make someone a tankyou need some form of healing, damage deferrance, i-frames or somethinggreen graves will just die in 3 seconds rather than .5 seconds
>>555912419technically, yes, this game would be considered his magnum opus. an evolution of what dota has become and allowing his past-current-future vision to continue. He didnt want to make extreme gameplay changes in dota or couldnt because of tournaments/pros. with deadlock, he can use the same fomulas from dota and start fresh with years to look back on.
>>555912417You can debuff gun carries more on stronger characters. Max 3 Yamato with Suppressor is much better than green Graves in every way
>>555912531Deadlock is for HMOFA chads only, sorry
If they turn Vyper into snake, then I hope they utilize the serpent rig to make at least another naga-style hero, preferably a buff male djinn or something.
>>555907003OKC = Oklahoma City
>>555910910I will now vote celeste.
>Jump to a team mate as Rem during a teamfight>Team mate immediately runs away from the action as fast as possible and ends my chain. >They aren't even lowWhy do you cunts do this every time?
>>555913585they are too busy paying attention to the fight to pay any mind to you
seven kinda sucks no?
>>555913585It's hard to tell when Rem is on you if you are looking at literally anything else. Wish the game would make it more obvious.
>>555913638yes. But we march on.
>>555911902I might try this. I'm watching Graves players right now and most of them are going some kind of gun 3 build and man it's fucking horrible, none of them do anything
>>555910910>>555913456nice
Did they patch out the siphon bullets healing tempo interaction? wtf
>>555913838However, this stops me.
>>555913638I know it must be hard being weak for the second time in the game's entire lifespan
>>555913638No? He's not top tier, but can still be strong because he's the fastest farmer in the game with tons of spirit damage in a meta where gun has been nerfed a lot.
celeste is a unicorn that uses magic to protect her friendships in the circusalso she sparkles
Can we just get a real pick/draft system already?
>>555914131Maybe in the next big update if they judge we have enough heroes for it.
>>555914131Nyo
>>555914131Only if we get ranked and casual queues.
>>555914131>gib me haz>gib me haz or feeddraft fucking never hopefully
>>555914131why?
>>555914131needs more heroes becuase two bans is a joke lol nice placebo for whoever cried for it, probably some eternus/streamer
>>555913943Yeah exactly where's the pit hair?
>>555901832>not already maining YamatoStay away from her, character tourist
>>555914264the only thing we actually need is party/solo queue split. I'm pretty tired of getting gapped simply because 4 dudes are sitting in a discord call salivating over eachothers nuts and call to focus you with 4 ults if you do anything of significance.
>>555914131Only if we get soloQ only first. Draft only matters for pros since dota2 at some point casualised bans and removed it except highest rank.
>>555914269You're fucking retarded. Draft systems have always existed in MOBAs because they're needed. Team comps and counter picking is like 80% of what goes into winning a game.
>>555910910unfortunately modders are doing everything in their power to try to make her black, because even the wokest person you know can't subconciously seperate niggers from animals
>>555914209They better add back a separate rankfag mode for it first. Drafts should only exist for comp.
I don't mind Celeste, but I do hope we get a more evil Carny rep down the line
>>555905057I played a lot more LoL and shooters than Dota2 but I stopped playing LoL over a decade agoI still play Dota2So not me
had a brawl game with NO graves or rem
>>555905120>Calico has childrenWhere did you get this?
>>555914503>caring what strangers do
>>555905057I'm an FPSchad that got dragged in by my Dota friend.
>>555905057This game is more League than Dota tbqh but obviously the overlap is going to be there with Dota since both are Valve games.
>>555913585too often i jump on a team mate and it doesnt go through, putting my ability on CD.
>new players with no match history to speak of are being put on my team in archon and are proceeding to go 0/18
>>555914743https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockJan2026/Audio/nano_unselect_07.mp3
>>555913834Her ult is the strongest part of her kit for sure but ult builds are so boring
what's the best carry if i can't aim?
>>555914880I get this too bro..
>>555914131we need solo queue first, ranks are a fucking mess because high rank players will team up with shitlows and get put in the mid ranks, the low ranks eat dirt but their high rank friends carry them up anyway, up to ranks where they dont belonghell, make it so that during your placement match period you can ONLY solo queue
>>555914920nothing boring about a near 1 minute cool down ultimate, ever.
>>555914884Damn she's a milf too?They need to update her model so I can enjoy best girl to the fullest
>>555915021victor, past a certain point you dont even need to shoot your gun unless enemies are right next to you (you want them inside your aura and shooting makes you move slower)
>>555910889I love this character so much, man. Maurice, do your thing
>>555914884I wouldn't take this seriously, they will not keep her old lore
>temp banned because this fuck ass game crashed mid-game
>>555915204lmao
>>555915175Its important for his laning but outside of that, its generally useless yeah. You shouldn't build any gun items on him either desu you just don't have the slots.
I'm so fucking dogshitKill meKill me
>>555898689Her new one is 100000000000000x better
>>555915204If Deadlock dies it will be because of abilities like this
>>555915204protip for maximum Mo play bind his ult to mwheeldown
>>555915486calm down dude, rome was not built over night
>played so much street brawl im now obscurus
>>555915672what the fuck Street Brawl affects your rank?
>>555915550>t. paige player in webm
>>555915204RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE
>all these 0-8's in Brawl
>>555905640Vindicta is much older than you'd think if we're going off the historic data of who was killed in the witch trials.
>>555915486Forget the ranks even exist and just focus on getting gud. You need 10 consecutive wins (or losses) to change your rank, so if you're not that good at the game your hope is just to play well so that when the next rank reset happens you get sent up
>>555915753>le epic twitter memeAnd you're a tourist tookys
>>555915785>Rem is a child characterOf course he would think 67 is peak humor
>>555915550Paige saw the Mo coming and she panic dashed into a wall. If she isnta ulted him she would've gotten under her walker just fine.
>>555915426fleet
>>555915865>touristif you say so
Is McGinnis literally giga Hitler this patch or something? I feel like I haven't won a single game when she's in the enemy team.
>>555915791She does say that she was a child when they condemned her, but she was resurrected in the first maelstrom so she's been living as a ghost for 60 or so years.Vin is actually a grandma, makes sense why she gets along with Talon so well.
>>555915998Enduring is better and builds into juggernaut that cucks end game gun carries. Not a terrible item still but we're long past the meta of spamming fleetfoot+enduring speed every game.Plus warp crystal is a better active choice.
>>555916084with graves in the picture now, i feel yoshi was too harsh on the turrents.
>>555916084in brawl she is, which is why you should middle click her portrait btw if you want to fuck with her, most mcginnis players absolutely panic when you go up next to them when they do their ult
Does Ivy's ult make a global sound for the enemy team?
why did they remove the ability to rate the match at the end of the game?i need to file a complaint.
>>555916363yes
>>555916363she recites the plane scene lines from The Dark Knight Rises
>>555916364yeah honestly the new end screen is worse than the old one
>>555916437>Crashing this walker, with no survivors
>>555916482I agree, I also hate how instead of starting on the rooftop with everybody visible you just stare at your character until the 12th person connects then you have to pause the game like an asshole if you want to swap with someone
how do i play this game? i downloaded yesterday and its kinda fun but the map is confusingrn i just push 24/7 but once we get to the enemy base idk what to dowhy is there no tutorial
did they update ranks again because it bumped me from ritualist 2 to 4
>>555916569It didn't even register we don't get the lineup anymoreYeah it sucks that it is gone
>>555916482I like the mvp cards, but the scoreboard is much, much worse.>>555916569I strongly dislike how you can't tab or access the shop during the patron's intro.
>>555898750>>555898830>>555899392>>555901165>>555899734goycattle posts
>>555916364they had it in the start, removed it, added it again but removed it because the the first reason, it was just rage feedback on losses and most people (streamers, pros, eternus and lower) would even skip over ""good"" matches and give no actual feedbackit was just something for people to say they disliked what happend in their loss match and valve needed to filter it out again.maybe it will return if the game is still in alpha for another year. but i think theyre getting better results through the questions during queue and from discord/forums even if theyre harder to filter through.
Enduring speed + stamina mastery legit feels like hacking
>>555916606game not donemore objective on map than basehelp team with other objectivedo urn or midboss if have optiongugu gaga
>>555911535perfectly balanced, as all votes should be
>>555916606just focus on what will continue to improve your pushing strategies and skill. Getting better at pushing is all you should just work on if that really is all youre doing.
>>555905057A lot of Deadlock players (especially the YouTube scene) are exfps players. As for myself, this is my first MOBA
>>555916756learn how to strafe iad and you won't need the enduring speed dumb frogposter
>>555905057deadlock got me into dota2.
>>555916606>how do i play this game? i downloaded yesterdayThere's your first mistake, you didn't promptly uninstall it, do that and enjoy better more entertaining games.
>>555917257You can still get statchecked no matter how good you are at movement
Beta might be closer than you think if they're actually advertising even just on steam.
>Eido says calico is now better than minais it true
>>555917459that is only for people who have the game already.
>>555917429yeah but 1600 could but used on slowing hex instead of enduring speed
>>555917459
>>555917541Slower rotations, slower farming, less chances to escape
>>555916303why? can't you just look down?
>>555917640>can't you just look down?
what's the most annoying splitpusher?
>people banning Haze or Calico in Brool instead of gigacancer like Seven or Miku
>>555917789mina due to everyone just hating mina. Wraith if actual splitter.
>>555917459The game is basically out with how piss easy it is to get into it, the ''muh alpha'' shit is pure cope by retards who want to feel like they are in some super sekrit special beta test.>b-but there are people who struggle to get invitedExtreme minority, anyone that is even remotely interested in playing deadlock has a thousand avenues to get invited ranging from literally any streamer's chat, reddit and discord.
>>555917640Miku can't fire her ordinance close to herself, there is a minimum range limit.
>>555917853buddy there's millions of people who won't redeem those free epic store games merely because they don't want to make an account and download a launcher. don't underestimate gamer laziness.
What does the full release for this game look like?Updated character models for several heroes?6 more new heroes launched?Will there be more than 1 map?Will each map have different lane trooper designs?Will there be more game modes?Will the MOBA mode be changed on a fundamental game design level from here? I want answers.
>>555917790>sevenbuy actives.>mikubetter than paige, maybe it's just the amount of shitter mikus but I rarely have a problem with her.
>lewding anime highschoolers>totally fine>lewding video game highschoolers>"you're a diddy blud epistein 2.0"Seeing my lobbies have melt downs over jokes about Graves' pubic hair has been very eye opening
>>555912965Does rubbing her belly help with ovulation?
>>555917976pm'd you the details
>>555917946I'm gonna be honest, this would apply if this game had any appeal to the casual/gamer dad audience but this game is as competitive and as sweaty as they come, anyone that would enjoy this kind of thing would've hopped on by now.Brawl is a good step in giving those people something to fiddle with but I still think the game is still too mechanically overwhelming for those type of people even in brawl.
>>555918321Pmd? This is 4chan you cant PM here
Street Brawl's item draft is really broken.
>>555918356just check your inbox, retard
just cm'd to vyper
Hiding in wait is always funny in this game. Did they change Drifter's standing crouch pose?
>>555913298ah ok that makes sense, fits that drifter kind of just moves around the south and the midwest.I wonder if he preys on his fellow (human) hobos and transients or if he'd consider that too easy game.
>>555918321received your PM
we need a hero that's Kafkaesque
>>555918470https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAA1xgTTw9w
>>555918703Everyone who plays Street Brawl.
is victor op atm?
If you're here please fucking hang yourself you're the most braindead nigger and it's as clear as day you were boosted.
>>555918973LOL!
>>555916606>why is there no tutorialValve game, go to youtube instead.There is a learn to play thing in the hideout near the fireplace, but ive never clicked it.
>>555907003I like the convo where vyper annoys him by misremembering classical composers
>>555918876Fuck you benchod
Abrams if I wanna be a 1v1 God?
>>555919221haze actually, if low mmr graves.
>>555919221Billy rapes him
https://youtu.be/4uRCLiWurRE?si=uSx8QjfxzI-2zYgc
>>555919341I don't like Graves or Haze>>555919403I'm also considering BillyWas getting fucked up by Billy 1v1 as Victor last night while trying to learn Vic
>>555898406>enemy Haze is up 15 kills by the 10 minute mark>walk up and kill her since she went full gun>she buys Glass Cannon>kill her again>she buys Dispel Magic>kill her again while shes 20k souls ahead>win matchthere is something actually wrong with Haze players, Didnt even buy Bullet Lifesteal either, just full gun and some minor greens
>>555918470>that many enhanced>AND a t5how many games did you lose in a row for that?>>555918771I don't really care. t. brooooler!
why is mina killing me in 2 seconds?
>>555919431I am now interested in the horse
>>555919473Well who do you like because it isn't Abrams unless you are still playing with people that don't know about parry or haven't installed auto parry cheat yet.>>555919503passive+rake burst+fedIt's just what she does and is how shes designed.
>>555919431Post the real bangershttps://youtu.be/6plmzeBAGdI?si=ECBfrI7JBBMmGnxehttps://youtu.be/QS7Ho5R_sdg?si=bZgwwY53W6T4y_pf
>>555919491Oh, you'll care alright once this bug causes you to miss an Eternal Gift.
Pull.Back.
Don't make me tap the sign s*lvertards. Venator is locked in.
The rare double 0 laneActual fucking captain uselesses
>>555919638Paige should throw it back desu
>>555919638いいえ。
>>555919625you first https://youtu.be/u7R0xukD6nI?si=bxz2APgb0POhMZkT
>>555919654Based. This is a Catholic general.
>>555919786>purr bakk
>>555918050>>lewding anime highschoolers>>totally fineI don't know where you've been for the past 5 or so years but anime is full of normie tourists now who will absolutely freak out over you making sexual jokes about characters that are canonically 17.99999 years old (some great examples are Miku or any teen girl from a popular shonen)
>>555919691Holliday on your team in low ELO = you are losingShitty pro bait character
>>555918973>I got warned for thisWhat the fuck>>555919638Don't you get it I'm the protagonist, I always win!
>>555919786>>555919638The yuri
>>555918356>this newfag doesn't have 4chan gold
>>555920026>Gives money to gookmoot
>>555919491>how many games did you lose in a row for that?3
newfag to deadlock hereWhy does it feel like no matter how I build my character or what gamemode I play, they deal so little damage compared to everyone else? Am I missing something?
Who are the best junglers in this game?
>>555919431only enjoyable ritual post recently.
>>555919691>0 obj damage in a nearly 40 minute gameEven just by existing near a walker or something you would surely tickle it with an ability or even one pip with your gun even by sheer accident, god damn. 1 alone is whacky, but 2 is stupid. I imagine they were a duo doing a 'win without damaging an obj' or some other bs
>>555920189The enemy with your shots and abilities apparently.
>>555920203>incels will look at this and tell you she's ugly
>>555920226Yeah seriously there’s no way, it mustve been some intentional shit
>>555919691not all minas, but always a mina>>555919503look in your bottom left corner for this thing called "love bites" you want to hide right before that meter fills up (or get debuff remover)
>>555920291She'd look hotter with a different eye color
>>555920189your bullets need to hit the enemy
>>555920203not enough tattoos, 4/10and its victor, haze, mina, and seven
>>555920203I will now vote for your chaacter
>>555920203>no bulge
>>555919431>>555920203God I really hope she fulfils this prostitute/stripper aesthetic
>>555920189If you could consult this chart sir
>playing billy>tap 3>rush in mashing light melee>roll hands over keyboard to use unstoppable, ult, return fire>witchmail constantly going off>arctic blast once they're pulled in>still swinging like a tard>survivenow this is BROOLing
>>555920189Because 90% of skills in this game have no inherent value as they have shit base values and their scaling is tied to your item/souls lead. if you are behind you'll do fuck all damage.
>>555920203the reason people aren't into this character and think she's "tranny-coded" is because the horn is a phallic object and clashes with her feminine lookwomen should represent holes to put phallic objects inside of, not sport phallic objects themselves, complete inversion of femininity which turns straight men off
>>555920203she should be covered from the neck down in qos tats
>>555921274Jesus christ. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.The main reason trannies locked onto it is the colours and the unicorn connection to mlp
>>555920203I WILL NOW PLAY YOUR GAME
>>555919964is paige a weeb?
>>555921437>zogcattle gets uncomfortable the moment someone delves into the real reason people aren't into a character beyond shallow reasons like coloursand there it is
>>555921437>and the unicorn connection to mlpThe connection goes deeper than thathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn#Queer_cultureAlso she's part of a society of "outcasts" and she says that she is a "unicorn" but nobody believes her, and her wish from the patrons is to make society realize that she is one
>>555909165If they didn't want him walking at people why did they give his bomb a movespeed amp
>>555920291tattoos destroy beauty.
>>555902584I can handle her with ease
>>555920203Deadlock homos seriously didn't vote this in first?
>>555921323>she should be covered from the neck down in qos tats
>>555917853pretty much
>>555922306Homos want Venator
do you guys ever just see what your lane partner does in the very first interaction of the game and you just know you're in for having to play with a retarded person for the next 40 minutes of your life?almost every time i've made this assumption i've been right.
>>555911556Rem is 10000% an Icefrog hero design.You can tell who's an Icefrog hero because they're all mostly "What if I took a Dota hero I made but twisted them a bit?"It's hard to explain. I think the best way to say it is that Icefrog designs heroes 'around the game', while designers like Riot and Hopoo design 'around the player'.
>>555902584
>>555919964>The yuri
>>555922306this thread unironically does more "celeste le trans" handwringing than actual trans people do on social media.she got completely overshadowed by other heroes this patch.
>>555922565>>555922318go away sharty toddler
>>555922631This. The actual transfolx are obsessed with Silver, they don't even give a shit about the character that has tons of trans allegories
>>555905057I went straight from TF2 to DeadlockI only play the movement characters, and I've been cheesing urn every 5 minutes since it became an instant drop
>>555922449did hopoo work on league? That might be why the game reminds me more of league than dota at times.
LearningSlowly, but learning
>>555905057I'm a hero shooter tourist (1500 hours in Overwatch, which I ditched for Rivals, 500 hours played, which I ditched for this game, 300 hours so far)
I forgot how much of a terrorist a mo and krill with a good start isGood luck doing literally fucking anything if you stray 1 meter outside of your side
>>555922887better stat than my william, at least he listened to me and stopped spamming quick melee.
>>555905057I don't play this game I just shitpost and ship in /dlg/
man haze is fun as fuck
>>555922413yeah if they get parried in the first thirty seconds
>get vindicta in brawl>2 - 2>enemy gets shrink rayI CANT SEE THEMwe lost but it's top tier shit
>>555922998he's just so antifun but if he didn't exist the game would be unplayable with draft.
>>555922035I'm not into the character because it's yet another conventionally attractive womanFeels like they copped out in this roster instead of making more interesting designs
I curse EVERYONE who voted to bring Graves ot he fucking game! Fuck all of you! Why didn't you vote for the Unicorn instead!? Now we have to deal with this scrubby character!
Does this game have any streamers that are good at the game and aren't faggots to watch and learn from?
>>555922998Mohammad and Kareem
>>555923543shrink ray is top 3 most broken legendaries.when they get it, it's usually over unless i'm an AoE spirit nuker.
>>555923713What makes you think that the other characters won't be ass to face as well? did you already forget about the last batch of characters where everyone was stupidly overtuned and had to be nerfed (except Drifter I guess).Paige, Victor and Mina are still cancer to fight till this day btw.
>>555902698yes because only white kids listen to mf doom
I feel bad for Mr MidbossHe's stuck in that hole and he can't get out :(
>>555923713She's hard to play at my mmr.
Celeste has a tramp stamp that can be seen when she crouches
>>555923715https://www.youtube.com/Deathy
>>555924147Maybe he likes it there?
wtf Graves is just running me down as Ivy
>>555924415What does it say though?
>be Oracle >teammate says its his 3rd game>other teammate says he's in alchemist 2 and doesnt know why hes heregreat matchmaking today
Ok this hero is broken in street brawl as a gun build, now how do I build her to get the same success in the main mode, gun again?
I finally hit my stride (The 14m game was a premade duo RQing at 10m)
>>555924645*Stoneform**walljump away breaking los*
>>555924415Proof?
>>555924683YEEHAW
>>555905654That's why it didn't work.Pocket thinks it was his dad thatordered the hit but it was really Mina
>>555924690I really hate how the rank system is hidden behind 2 menus and most players probably don't even know it's a thing since seeing what rank your match was in is disabled by default, so someone can get lucky in their placement matches or get carried into a high rank by a high rank friend that they are in a party with, only to then eat dirt forever because now they're in a rank they don't actually belong inI think that obscurus players should just have their own placement lobbies instead of being put in random regular ones
>>555924447>posting the 17 year old nigga who looks 37
when is yoshi adding a remodel? what is taking them so long?
>>555924732Take notes on the items you had in street brawl and test it out in the sandbox modeYou have a brain for a reason, use it.
>>555899734He's a shithead punk who doesn't have any actual goals except hating the people running things. People like Dynamo know this and blast him for it.
>>555905286>>555905437>>555905486jeets and fetishists meme bbc but jesus christ 'just be white' is so fucking real for asian-americans. Hell even the ones from asia-asia once they get here, I geuss we just embody perfectly what they find attractive?
>>555924912None I made it up
>play game>lose to Graves and Rem highest souls>play game>lose to Graves and Rem highest souls>play game>lose to Graves and Rem highest soulsLET ME BAN THESE NIGGER HEROES AHHHHH
>>555899392>passionately pro>Drifter
>It's a "Wraith actively vacuums up every single piece of farm and uses it to go 0/10/0 while we have a Seven and Victor stuck in pauper-mode" episode.I love wraith players...They're all extremely efficient at farming, and also extremely efficient at feeding...
>>555925654kek
>>555924732It depends, I'd test your item lineup in sandbox because enhanced items exist in brawl and don't in normal shop.
Anyone else miss the old "hazy day time" look to the map before the visuals were cleaned up more
>>555925802No, it was bad.
>>555903482it's a man. there are no girls on the internet.
>>555925680valve could silently remove wraith from the game next update and I'm not entirely sure that anybody would even notice that she's gone
Do player kills give more boons instead of souls?Feels like that's the case
>>555925418>x.com the everything app adds a feature where you can see what country an account is from>literally all the blacked/bnwo/bbc accounts are from india
>>555923620All games need a "click retard with long duration stun" character to keep the Minas of the world in check. There's a reason Malzahar and Bane's ults exist and have never been fundamentally changed.
newtard here. is it possible to react parry a heavy melee or do you have to predict it? if I just hit F when I hear the noise am I gonna eat shit?
>>555923543>incredibly hard rounds back and forth>r5 >someone on my team gets enhanced shrink ray>65% shrink>can't even see your own character on the screen you're so small>win before overtimeEnhanced piano is equally as game breaking
>>555925904I mean this applies to all the other DEI SBI characters like Calico and Haze
>>555899439How is his ult gonna be different from Vindicta's?
>>555926067>is it possible to react parry a heavy melee or do you have to predict it?yeah unless you, they, or the server is lagging than you can eat shit.>if I just hit F when I hear the noise am I gonna eat shit?Only against people that know to bait it, should work most times.
>>555926067I avoid parrying exactly because of how they could bait parriesFigured to focus on mobility so you can stay out of melee range
>>555925951those are the same thing
>>555923713Her shit range and bad base DPS unironically make her harder to play than most of the cast if your aim isn't total dogshit
>>555926067>is it possible to react parry a heavy meleeyes, very much yes>if I just hit F when I hear the noise am I gonna eat shit?you should be reacting to the noise not the animation, there is a parry practice npc in the sandbox mode for a reason
>>555925904She has the best lips in the game I'd miss her just for that.
>>555925202aint no way this guy is 17
OH MAN AW JEEZ YEAH I DON'T KNOW I JUST CAN'T STOP FEEDING I CAN'T HELP IT MAN THERE'S JUST NOTHING I CAN DO
>>555926067heavy melees are always reactable, otherwise people would just be constantly heavy meleeing eachother all the timeyou can only heavy melee someone if>they are stunned>they are on parry cooldown>you are behind them and you can tell they have so much shit happening on their screen they can't react to anything (only after lane stage)light melee are the predict parry game. if someone predicts a light melee and parries, the light melee guy gets fucked. if someone wastes their parry, they get hit by a heavy melee and gets fucked
>>555924690Matchmaking has been busted since the big updateI've seen multiple retards in my also Oracle games and checked their profiles to see less than 20 games played. Multiple.
>>555926373Me on an inhouse yamato (Raivas team).
>Fuckin' Seven, that creep can roll, man>"Yeah but he's a sex offender. No really he's a pederast, he did 6 months in Lost Whisper for exposing himself to a Blackmore Academy student"
>>555926267I thought they were different, just wondering if it's worth it to go for player kills early game instead of farmingKept getting baited into feeding a couple games so figured it's more worth it to farm mobs/be more conservative
>>555922074you could be using the same allegories to claim she's fucking juggalo-coded
>>555926524Sevenbros, explain yourselves
>>555913298I'm from OKC
>>555925802If we don't get new maps, I at least hope we get at least get different times of the day/weather, I know the ritual is supposed to occur during an eclipse but it would be nice to have some variance.
drifter is so cool but he is boring as shitwaste
>>555926749It should be like Bloodborne where the time of day changes due to how long the game is going on or how many objectives have been destroyed >sunset>dusk >moon rises>blood moon eclipse
>>555926672"What is there to explain? I'm already wanted for murder why should the age of consent even be considered to apply to me anymore?"
>>555907395>'Phew! I sure am glad that my one singular aoe ability can just barely clear this wave! I need to run to the middle lane with my utility items to contribute!'>The reincarnation of Adolf sends 4 of these down the lane attached to his creeps, making them unkillable and microwaving my wave instantly, as he runs to the fight
>>555917853retard
>>555926916>Rush max 3 >Toss two helpers on a wave and go away>Later on spot a Doorman trying to kill one>His gun is literally not doing enough damage to kill it as it heals
had lore-accurate warden on my team
>>555927094I wish I could play him without being bored, seems like a soloQ god.
>>555926524>THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS BILLY>THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FUCK A STRANGER IN THE ASS
>our entire team is going gun>enemy roll enhanced plated armour, plated armour, plated armour, and jug>Russian Graves (who is running pure orange) starts having a meltie in voice "HELLO TEAM!!!" "USELESS" "Team diff" ")))" etc.>even the enemy is calling them a crybaby and points out the plated armour against gun team>Graves moans some more and still picks orange items for the last round >Win no thanks to her I don't get why some people get so heated in Brawl. I'm curious to see what kind of stereotype graves players earn after she stops being new.
>try out Vyper>slide around while shooting because that's kinda her thing>notice that she has infinite ammo when sliding>look at all her abilities>none of them specify that>try slide shooting on another hero in the hideout>they also have infinite ammo>mfw I realize that it's a universal mechanicHaha whoopsie, I was wondering what that infinity icon was, I thought it was increased stamine regeneration.
>>555927093I have seen a Paige's heavy melee be outhealed by these things. It's grim.
Calico is so fucking broken she just carries whichever team gets her but her pick rate doesn't justify using my ban on her
>>555927305>them
>>555927093it's REALLY to kill buffed troopers early in the game. even later on it's still annoying. I don't know if that shit is intended.
>>555920203I legit had 0 Celeste votes before seeing this now I'm all in
>>555927592she use to be even stronger.
>mina at the lowest winrate in the game at high ranksyou fucking love to see it.god i'm so happy.
>>555927810God I used to hate Calico so much
>>555927305>I don't get why [Russians] get so [mentally ill] in [game]
>>555927857>coomers who are only playing her because shes sexy then proceed to eat dirt and go 2/16>sweats who go 16/2 as herim happy to have her as my banned hero for these reasons
>>555927883i miss the cat turrets
>>555928148>coomers>sweatsI'm both.
Every hero should have a custom crosshair
>>555927883Shes actually kinda balanced now but her kit is great for stomping games.>>555928336Yes. But according to data most disable it so no new crosshairs anymore unless we whine on the forums.
Every female hero should be flat chested with an even bigger butt
>>555928483>But according to data most disable itThat can't be true because I bet most people don't even know you can disable them
vindicta does no dmgami bad
does curse interrupt ultimates? wasn't there supposed to be an item that lets you cleanse pocket ult, whatever happened to that?
>>555922868don't think so? That wasn't the implication though.
>>555928559It's what valve said at least or afaik. I use them but Mina's is kinda shite and I prefer the crosshair just for her gun.
>>555928654Debuff remover used to cleanse ults but they removed that rather quickly.
>>555928683I know but worth asking, I think they are copying a lot of stuff from league because they want deadlock to be less 'intense' on the moba aspect. But who knows maybe we will get camp stacking, wards, and the whole sheebang.
>>555928559>load up game>my crosshair is a giant retarded keyhole>dig through settings to figure out how to get a usable crosshairif they weren't so bad people probably wouldn't bother but they are.
>>555922449Hopoo was always a dota fan, ROR1 has omnislash, aghanim's scepter and some other dota references i can't recall now. And just heroes with 4 abilities in general.
>>555928918idk I find doormans cross hair alright, I geuss they could of just made it a rectangle too.
"teleports behind you" has to be one of the best abilities they've added
even dota 2 didnt have it this bad the excuse of ''the game is new'' is not acceptable
Custom crosshairs ooze SOVLI don't care if people turn them off they should be in the game for every hero regardless. You're a turbofaggot if you turn them off anyway.
>>555928843>camp stackingStupid, we already have boxes>wardsMeaningless, you can hear people inside buildings and behind walls, and creep camp markers disappearing tell you where people are on the map
>>555929063the problem is by adding shooting mechanics you attract people that are even dumber than moba players. It could be made even worse if we got a battle royale mode before release.
>>555929064true
>>555929063Yeah Dota 2 never ever had one team get a lead on another team. Never ever happened in 15 years. This only happens in deadlock and no other game in existence. If we get our asses handed to us it's because the matchmaker fucked up, nobody ever plays like shit
>>555929064You're a turboretard if you leave them on
FUCKsomeone already posted a Charon the cab driver idea to the forums not even a month ago
I keep getting absolutely carried every game I load into
>>555911556Did Icefrog ever really exist?
>be laning normally>suddenly step out of line for 2 seconds due to a lapse in judgement>half my hp is gone>can't lane anymore beacuse any trade I take will just kill menice game
>>555911556why would you shit up your marketing with "icefrog" when you have the brand name of VALVE
>>555925484>play game>lose with rem and graves lowest souls>play game>lose with rem and graves lowest souls
can we stop picking rem nowi am tired of having this useless creature on my team
>>555928654divine barriersupports buy it all the time
>>555929521you're supposed to learn from that
>>555929327Also does anyone know if people use anything for the OC skills images in the games style or do they just hand make that shit?
>>555929659Most rems refuse to play around their ults sadly and are useless.
We should get another character that speaks non-english language. I propose a KGB-agent/paratrooper orc in service of soviet union.
>>555929593Rem is supposed to have the lowest souls on your teamThose souls are more efficient on your seven
>>555929659I haven't seen a non-premade Rem win a normal game.
>>555929884You should propose something interesting instead.
>>555929941>the 1/10 rem with 10k souls less than everyone else is a good thing actually
>>555929659I mean he's really fun to play regardless of how good or bad he is
>>555928843I doubt wards will ever get in game, i just think too much works against having them in deadlock. Vision is nice, but the idea of warding to negate/be aware of a gank, and getting a 0.1sec blip of a mach 10 drifter flying to my asshole as he parkours, dips, and slides into buildings just makes me think anywhere past low ranks, they'd be pointless. Also from experience as i'm sure we all have had, people would never buy them or would just ignore the damned things anyways>>555929659>new heroes are being picked GRAAAAGHYeah man, damn, what has the world come to
>>555929967It's a japanese style pig-orc.
>>555929878the last one i played with had ult, was with me when midboss roared.the other team had literally no good midboss contesting ults and he could have just done that shit through the ceiling, but he ran away and let me die alone after i took one rejuv.
remember to vote venator! some guy asked to make this some threads ago, sadly im shit at drawing
anyone got some fun melee yamato builds?
how long until Silver?
>>55593027928 hours
>>555930279Monday after next
is haze black?
Man while I enjoy actually interacting with the MOBA mechanisms, Brawl is just too much fun. I think macro and defending lanes just gets me way more stressed than it should
>>555930279100 hours
>>555920203why are people replying to this offmodel sloppa
>>555929884I was thinking of something like a Soviet alchemist who spent his life trying to make the philosopher's stone, but always failed, and is now seeking the patron's help in desperation. Mostly because I want an alchemist hero whose gun is called Magnum Opus.
>>555930484It makes them aroused.
>>555930243sovl
are there any content niches unfilled for deadcock?
>>555923715Midlock. Not a streamer just posts games. Everyone else is a faggot or wet rag.
>>555930449Yeah kind of my deal. It’s completely a “me” problem because I’ve never played mobas before (and I shan’t because I hate top down shit).My brains still trying to adjust to the grind, because it still feels wrong to me to be veering off and grabbing souls instead of uselessly trying to murder. At least I stopped trying to chase though.
Did they adjust the ranks again or something? I went up 1 rank and I was basically just brooling for days straight.
>>555930430She has a Caucasoid face structure despite being a smoke woman. Also she sexually molests Rem.
>>555931373>I hate topdownJust play dota2 in the vanity cam :^)
>>555929154>>555929205>If you play Dota 2 Or OverWatch 2>An 5.5k MMR player will never be matched with an 2k MMR player>An usually the ranked range is from 200-800 MMRsIt is absolutely fucked how Valve can not fix the most fundamental thing in a Multiplayer FPS game.
Now that graves has been out for a few days I can confidently say she's actually pretty shitOnce you learn you can just melee the skulls away if they're on you, they stop being a problemshe builds up skulls way too slowly, especially early gameher wall is good, but you can just jump over ither 4 is great for pushing lanes but that's really itshe's incredibly oppressive in street brawl but that's not the real gameright now she's just a moderately annoying lane opponent but once she throws out a jar or two early game you can just dive her and she can't really do shit
>>555931816yeah real shame. Also>Cannot ever be too strong due to aimlets crying about her due to lock on beam.
>>555931764Party queue exists, disingenuous retard bro
What have pros been saying about the base changes? I don't think they're good mechanically, but I'm an archon shitter.
>>555932370Pro here, they're good.
>My team - 3 supports>Their team 3 carries + 2 initiators + supporthow is this fair
>lost the last 3 street brawls 2-3 because of either bullshit godlike rng on the enemy team or new player teammates
>>555932491Anyone can carry except Rem
>>555932608Kelvin can't
>>555932019the autoaim gun being short range balances it out a bit since Graves herself is incredibly squishy her gun is not meant to do incredible damage, with her 3 it's mainly meant to be a debuffing tool so you build on-hit debuff stuff like silencer, spirit rend, etc.anyway in every game I have played her now, people just immediately kill her skulls so I've rarely actually gotten use out of it.You basically need to throw skulls on someone either while they're cc'd or when they're about to be.I think a good balance would be either make them charge much faster or require at least two melees. I say this even having fought graves a lot too, they're so easy to deal with. I think the most dangerous they are is very early in lane when everything still does a lot of damage to you
>Was about to ult in the middle of the enemy team as victor>FRIENDLY LASH USES HIS FUCKING ULT TO PULL THEM ALL AWAY FROM MEFUCKING NIGGER CHARACTER FOR NIGGERS, I'M PUTTING HIM ON MY BAN LIST EXACTLY FOR THAT
>>555931594she makes me horny desu
>>555932737>the autoaim gun being short range balances it out a bit since Graves herself is incredibly squishyher gun is not meant to do incredible damage, with her 3 it's mainly meant to be a debuffing tool so you build on-hit debuff stuff like silencer, spirit rend, etc.anyway in every game I have played her now, people just immediately kill her skulls so I've rarely actually gotten use out of it.You basically need to throw skulls on someone either while they're cc'd or when they're about to be.I think a good balance would be either make them charge much faster or require at least two melees. I say this even having fought graves a lot too, they're so easy to deal with. I think the most dangerous they are is very early in lane when everything still does a lot of damage to youpreaching to the choir, the fact she can't ever be too strong is because of retards not us.
>>555931816its funny that the shitters thought she was broken but now think she is shit because she cant just walk in and 1v5 but the good players thought she was shit and now think shes broken because her ult passively controls the entire map
>>555925418Its a culture thing it just isnt as apparent in Asian countries because the people there are all Asians>ChinaChinks Confucianmaxx to climb the social ladder and power structure of society. The people in power are chinks = chinks become chinkier>KoreaGooks Confucianmaxx to climb the social ladder and power structu>JapanJaps Confucianmaxx to climb theWhen they end up in the US where social ladder/power structure is (for now) majority white they dont even stop and blink, they Protestantmaxx. Old Asian boomers probably jerk off over the "model minority" meme
>>555908435unicorn lady is coming out Tomorrow
>44k damage>most in the game by over 10k at least>look at score board at the end>only got 2 killssuffering even in success
>>555932370base is a bit too big and open imo, which fucks the defending side, but I like that shrines and patron actually do something now with their curses
>>555933062Rem 3 has a much lower cooldown and does better to passively control lanes than Graves ult can
>>555933192did you at least become an assistchad?
>>555933204defending side has a much easier time stopping shrines from being destroyed, and the game has to end eventuallyI hope they don't shrink it, looks cool
>>555931816She's weak early but by late game she gets pretty strong It's really just building to deal with her weaknesses and scaling up, also a lot of dogshit weapon rush max 3 builds out there baiting people into playing complete trash
Since Shiv ult is 25% enemy max HP no matter what, is it viable to just build tank on him? Your mere presence in a teamfight means everyone on the enemy team needs to play like they are 75% HP max and the longer you survive the longer this "debuff" continues
>>555933204I kind of understand the design philosophy, that every part of the base should be a new teamfight potential area, but it basically means that once the enemies are in your base you can't really get them out. Maybe that was the intention though - that comebacks were happening too often, and expanding the area where they happened helped prevent them.
I literally can't see shit anymore when looking out at the bottom of the base from the top ropes as Lash
>>555933192This is me in most games, the last hit always goes to a teammate unless I'm a nuker like Mina. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if that's something people do on purpose.
>>555933473Yeah. You get your weapon and spirit 4800 and build full green and still top damage
>>555933291sadly there was a paige with more assists
>>555932920?? I get that for like, Dynamo Ult but people can just run away from Victor when he dies, it takes like 5 fucking years for the stun to go off. You almost never get to stun anyone.
>>555933473Yeah you just bleed them out with the knives, dash in to ult them and use the passive to survive getting out alive
>>555933204They also got rid of the windows that let you shoot down on people taking your base guardians. The devs didn't make it easier to push the base by mistake.
>>555931498I was bumped up from ritualist 5 to emissary 5. after not playing for a month however my rank reverted to obscurus and then after 1 normal match loss I was at ritualist 6.
>Name "Mina Ha">Korean(and East Asian) names say the last name first>Her name is Ha MinaHa mina mina ey ey waka waka ey eyHa mina mina zangalewa
i int every team that doesn't have silver posters
>>555932920if he did it correctly he'd be able to throw everyone back into you.
>Most games of Brool being miserable stomps pre-patch>lost of close, even games post patchWhat the fuck, a patch making the game better? Im not used to something like that.
>>555933943>Tf2trannyyou arent used to anything. go back
>>555933839Does she call herself Mina Ha in any voice lines?All the other characters addressing her are not korean so they'd just say her name the western way.
what's the most annoying character? i want to make the life of the enemy team hell
>>555933839>Ha mina mina ey ey waka waka ey eywhat kind of groidspeak is this
>>555934024First, I play both games.Second, its just a reaction image, sperg, calm down.
>>555934069Grey Talon if you're actually good at the game. McGinnis if you're bad.
>>555934069normally infernus but right now graves probablymo/krill also if you want to just make one person extremely angry
So is Spirit Graves not good?
what the fuck am I supposed to do in a game like this? I can only do so much but it feels like 90% of the time no matter how well I do, I get teammates that can't do fucking anything and I end up losing
>>555934069Shiv if you're good.
>>555930449I mean dying in a 40 minutes game knowing that it will make your whole gameplay experience worse for the whole match feels far worse than dying in a 10 minutes meme mode
>>555934346build her like mcginnis
>>555934069Doorman has the highest ceiling for personal enemy griefing imo.With refresher you can do some very oppressive shit to one guy.Ult > Cart > Bell > refresh > Ult > Cart > BellNot to mention the kidnapping aspect of the doors. Carting somebody through a door under your walker will make them seethe
>>555933839https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamina
>>555929063>4-36i had a 2-40 dota 2 game last week. its impossible to design a human system that doesnt get abused by russians, chinese and peruvians
>Yamato>2 in>1+3>they run away>need to ult to reset my 2 and get back in>they're out of range by the time it finishes
>>555934491>cold>flat>birch and pines>woodhousesreminds me of america, besides the stone buildings which would be brick.
>>555934050>Does she call herself Mina Ha in any voice lines?Only the patron does when she's on a kill streak>MINA HA, RISE UP AND TAKE WHAT YOU DESERVE
>>555931373For me it's the opposite, been playing this genre on and off since fucking high school and I'm just fatigued with the chore elements
so what are the best gun item combos for the biggest largest damages
>>555930278just buy the melee items, its not that complicated
>>555929659Most Rem players don't even know how his Hitlersustain works and just eat shit and die in lane.>Trade agressively and spend your health to take the enemy's>Toss 3 on 2 troopers>2 your lane partner, 2 trooper, 2 trooper>You're now full health again
>>555931373>it still feels wrong to me to be veering off and grabbing souls instead of uselessly trying to murder.You're not the only one, oftentimes I'm the only one farming on my team, and my retard team constantly goes off to start teamfights even in lanes without objectives, or against an ahead team that has full rejuv
>tied most damageDidn't think it was possible, guess it rounds the number internally and not just for show
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hero-concept-charon-cab-driver.103646/Here's my shitty Charon cab driver idea, scuffed MSpaint included.
Slork bros how we holding up?
>>555934387What was your shiv building kekSplit shot shiv????????Alchemist is a funny place.
>Get yelled at for trying to save someone with Ivy's ultNever again, next time you die
>>555934387>0/17 hollidayproof that thats a gimmick character that only works for skilled playerslet me guess, she was just throwing out barrels forward (that the enemy instantly avoided)?
Are sinners shared among people in the area?
>>555935387I once got yelled at for flying my hypercarry forward to chase down a fleeing low health enemy, who was otherwise like 200 feet away by that point, and we killed. Some people just don't like losing control for a big I guess
>>555935457>gunniday You already know your answer
>>555935309is Alchemist a dogshit rank or something? I only just started playing a few days ago but it feels like 99% of the time i'm one of the only people on my team actually doing anything so I end up losing
>>555934069Mo & Krill and just building to fuck over one guy specifically.
>>555935387Same shit with Wyvern's Cold Embrace in Dota or Tahm's ult in League. Stunning your teammates in even the absolute best circumstances ever will just make them keyboard smash and try to escape.
>>555935696Yes. Ostensibly Initiate - Archon = BronzeOracle = SilverPhantom = GoldAscendant = PlatinumEternus = DiamondOr alternatively Initiate - Archon = Learning the game and then the other ranks are bronze, silver, gold and plat
>>555935696It wasn't *that* bad when I was down there but considering you had SPLIT SHOT shiv and holiday I'm gonna assume its the rank where all the shitters are sent now.If it makes you feel better, its climbable. I started out in seeker and was able to become a archon shitter in the first 6 hero update.
>>555929659It's less the character and more that noobs are playing him. I have seen multiple rems that didn't:>go into tunnels>use their 3s, or if they did, it was never on a trooper>get the sinners
>>555935565The per hit, is to the hitter. the final bounty is split between eligible participants of whichever team hits last. eligible meaning they hit recently.it came to me in a dream.
>>555922631>she got completely overshadowed by other heroes this patchthisreally good batch imo, i only don't care much for graves and even then i like her more than paige and mina from last batch
>>555935565rem lil'helper sinner souls are shared if rem is not nearbyotherwise goes to the puncher
>>555936028>>555936198I meant the buffs you get on the final hit.I was laning with a Haze today and I went to do the nearby sinners and he came and hit it too which made me feel like I had to compete for the final hit which fucked up my timing and I hit it too early. Basically I just want to know if it mattered who got the last hit on it. Either way fuck that cocksucker for coming over and hitting it after seeing I hit it first.
>>555934387>Splitshot on HollidayMatchmaking was sending you it's greatest minds. This loss was your fault.
I always hard win lane with Rem
Is Rem/Viscous the most immortal lane duo?
>>555936576no shit he heals a shit ton and makes minions invincible
What's the point of turret Ginnis when half of the cast can press a single charge ability and delete your T3 turrets by minute 20?
>>555936721Rem Kelvin
>>555936721McGinnis Ivy
>>555935956I win with Rem every game I play him and never go into tunnels. I'm always up top doing shit
>>555936846annoyance
>>555936408the buffs go to the last hitter.unless rem has a minion on it. he wins those.
>>555923543it's so fucking cancerous
>>555936721Double healer(any combo) is always unkillable until the antiheal comes online
How many Silverfags are you cancelling out?
>>555936918Yeah the tunnels are only good for escapes, the "OMG HE HAS ACCESS TO HIS OWN BOXES!!!" shit is whatever
>>555937116god i hope venator wins tomorrow it would be so fucking funny
>>555936940There is nothing annoying about it, like all a Seven/Geist/Dynamo has to do is press 1 and your nest is gone.If you spread out your turrets, you'll do no damage and they can face tank them one by one shooting at it
>Redditors cry about Bebop's bombs so they nerf it>Just turn into Tankbop and piss them off more
>>555935925Holy retard...
>>555937116
>>555937350His punch change is literally all I've ever wanted tankbop is god.
>>555936846Applying debuffsThey've not been good enough as a primary damage source for a while
>>555937350What even is the nerf? I'm a Bebop bomb build main and I still get top player damage at the end even if me and my team eat dirt
>>555936473>>555935940>>555935925>>555935457>>555935309so was it pretty much just bad luck? what do you do in those situations, just go "oh well" and queue next?
>>555936721Abrams Paige (if she plays like a bitch)They're losing their tower, though.
>>555937116I'm all in on Celeste after seeing >>555920203
>>555936846>>555937323You're supposed to wait for a teamfight to start and then throw turrets at wherever the biggest shitshow isBy that point people are too busy keeping track of shooting enemies/positioning around allies/figuring out where the fuck Haze went/dodging shitThat way your turrets get to DPS for freeEspecially if you ult as well so everyone's attention goes to you instead of your turrets currently cutting away at their hp bars
>>555937463you can't selfcast anymore which i guess never mattered in your rank since no one bought debuff remover anyway
>>555937492You lock inI'm being serious.People will see a guy go 0/10 and instantly give up.You have no idea how many games you can salvage by having solid mental.
>>555937323>>555936846Honestly Miku needs a total rework, none of her kit meshes well together
>>555937492Have you never played a team-based online game before bro, out of 10 games4 games are unwinnable4 games you win no matter what2 games you are the deciding factorit has always been like this
>>555936846Forcing them to kill your turrets or ignore them and try to kill you while you do other shit.
>>555915559>third ability mwheel up>ult mwheel down>second and first ability on side mouse buttons
>>555911547no way yoshi is that based>nice kit nice kit....however, where is slark?
>>555937638I think her turrets need a rework, ideally using Rem 3 mechanics so you have significantly stronger turrets but can only have a certain amount active, but>her 1&2 combo incredibly well>her 3&4 do the sametell me you don't know how to play miku without telling me you don't know how to play miku
>>555911418>I voted for Slork
>>555938004Don't forget 2&4, especially for taking down objectives while standing in place and healing
>Graves skulls get stuck in wall>its attack noise blares across the map for the next 20 minute >reconnecting doesnt end the noise>endless rattlinggod that was awful, has this happened to anyone else?
7 matches and I haven't had a single disconnect on either team. Am I finally escaping newshitter hell?
Graves might be a macro carry, the kind of disgusting shit you can do with her ult, especially with refresher, is wild
>>555937492>>555937628Remember too that you can absolutely throw a winnable game by having trash mental.
>shoot someone>they dash halfway across the map in 0.5 secondsis this fortnite all over again, why is mobility so ridiculous.
>>555938281I had a glitch as Rem where my ult visual effect never ended so for the rest of the game I had blue highbeams coming out of my eyes
>>555911707>Dota doesn't have tanks!>What are Bristleback and Axe>N-no they do damage tanks don't do damage!Even fucking Riot admits that tanks have to do damage in order to be useful. If tanks don't do damage then you have to give them disgusting amounts of CC and that inevitably warps them into pro player-only monstrosities that nobody likes fighting.
>>555938298Try her with Refresher and Magic Carpet. Wait for a fight to start at either Green or Yellow then>Zipline to the opposite(if it's a mosh pit at Yellow, go Green. Vice versa)>Ult>Carpet fly to Blue>Refresher>UltAnd then either go to the teamfight or ram yourself down mid
>>555938298Rem macros better without refresherBut yeah it's nice they both can do it. Graves feels a lot better once you start ulting on cooldown to split.
>>555938387There's a lot of very strong CC abilities in this game as well and people tend to die very quickly if they aren't moving
>>555902710>Dota doesn't have tanks, just initiators, the tankiest is just the most farmed herounc, dota is literally going through a tank meta crisis right now because of STR heroes.I get you probably last played dota 2 during TI2 or some shit but ''pick tank'' is a thing now in dota 2.
>>555938387Like a third of all items and a quarter of all spells deal with this thoughbeit?
>>555938298It’s great I rushed refresher dropped two tombstones on mid when it looked like people were gonna teamfight and left to farm yellow and still got a kill and 3 assists. Lightning Scroll can get DIRTY on her too.
>>555938298she's obnoxious as fuck to play against, even if she's just on-track farmed and not massively ahead, doing a teamfight against her is almost always a loss because you have to track not only her, but her fuckass wall that roots you for like 5 seconds, her skulls, AND her ult's location
>>555938518The only issue with Graves is that she kinda plays herself once you figure out that you should always ult on cooldown to splitpush
>>555938747Her wall can also root you multiple times if you keep passing through it.
>>555931816>she builds up skulls way too slowly, especially early gameThis is the only major problem with her and the rest of the shit you listed is clear you've only played her once, maybe.t. 5/5 wins with her in archon
>>555931816>>555938905yep, her early is weak but late-mid onwards she's close to an auto win if played smart
>>555933839"Mina" is also a German name. My grandma's name.
I'm kind of shocked Graves hasn't even had a mini patch to fix how broken she is
>>555938773wonder if they're gonna try to fix this or keep it as is
>>555939079She did have one like 10 minutes after she dropped because she had an infinite ammo bug
>>555939079She did her skulls were patched to be easier to hit and her infinite ammo bug was fixed.
>>555939079Same reason no hotfix buff for Rem>"Ah, our character who needs good macro and pathing is skewing towards being better at high ranks? Nice">"Ah, our character who doesn't need to aim is skewing towards stomping at low ranks? Nice"Gaben is on is yacht. All is right in the world.
>>555939079she's only broken on shitter ranks because of autoaim, her winrate decreases a lot past archonit's actually kinda insane, she has almost 60% WR on initiate and drops to barely 50% on eternus
>>555939304>>555939339Also newer players aren't as good at clearing her skulls. Or dont know you can in the first place.
>>555939304>Gaben is on is yacht. All is right in the world.Hey at least he's not in the Epstein files
does this game have a system where it queues you at a lower rank or unranked if you're new to a hero? i want to try to learn Doorman but I don't want to tank my rank in the process since i've heard he's hard
>>555926034I was surpised by meeting an Indian girl irl that she viewed herself as black. I geuss that's why the men there like it? It was strange to me because while she had dark skin yes, she clearly wasn't 'black' in the sense of being a bantu african. They take it too literally there I suppose.
>>555939304>"Ah, our character who needs good macro and pathing is skewing towards being better at high ranks? Nice"about that...
>>555933134This makes sense for folks off the boat but I think Amer-Asians just fetishise white males in general.
>>555939576rank doesn't matter
>>555939647>99% pickrate for bothfirst off i get they are new heroes but this is fucking disgustingsecondly that pickrate is naturally going to tank their actual WR as people first time them and lose
>Echo Shard on Graves>Instead of one line of hands you can cast two lines of your S2 in a X shapeKino
>>555939761>secondly that pickrate is naturally going to tank their actual WR as people first time them and lose...which is why Graves has had her winrate crippled to over 50% winrate right?
>>555939576yes, but if you're top end of the bell curve it's not going down by much.
I tried the game out today, I like Lady Geist the most so far
>>555939761yeah how dare people want to play new heroes
>>555939593>Indian girl irl that she viewed herself as black.I've seen Indians online say that they're fucking white girls with their BBCs, so yes Indians for some reason think they are black and that BBC applies to them
>>555939915She's unpopular good to hear. Except here since this general is a magnet for Geist players apparently
Is every game lasting 30+ mins this patch or just me?
>>555934069Shiv and MK. people straight up seethe when their portrait appears on the enemy side.
>>555939761Rem is actually starting to drop.
>>555940104I've been regularly witnessing bronze tier macro in oracle the past week so im not surprised
>>555939761>first off i get they are new heroes but this is fucking disgustinghow is it disgustung? everyone will obviously want to try them out since they are newpickrate is irrelevant, look at the WRrem's WR is far lower the higher you go in ranksi assume it's because aimlets can't hit hin on the lower ranks
>>555940067Isn't her pick rate pretty good?
>>555940283Maybe that's changed, shes pretty much only been buffed except when grenade spam was strong.
so when are they going to fix the bebop bomb audio bug where it just appears on random spots on the map
>>555940406I'd play her but I can't aim
any advice on Doorman? about to run my first game as him, I understand using bells as your primary damage source, doors are mostly for initiating and disengaging (but i think theyre sometimes good for the cart combo??), cart is mostly good for the wall stun, and your ult you should save for isolated targets? are you meant to ult their initating tank or their carries?
>>555940515It's mostly cqc and positioning.
>>555940035BBC applies to indian guys, timmy
>>555940104Matchmaking is fucked up due to the large number of new players so newfag shitters and (mostly) skilled veterans are ending up in the same lobbiesNewfag shitters don't know how to end games, they win a teamfight then start wandering around killing camps or go homeEven if 4/10 of a lobby are good players and they farm the remaining 6/10 for souls, that's still only 40% of the lobby doing objectives
>>555937183They are faster rotation thobeit
Stop wasting your bans on shit like Bebop and Haze and ban someone actually worth it like Paige
I wonder why my games have been so shit lately
>>555939576Valve should add a clown hero to deadlock.
>>555938298Feels bad going refresher on a cd that is so low
>>555940104Even most Eternus games last ~35 minutes, anon.The days of ~20 minute stomps have been over for months now.
>shroud and xqc comes back to deadlock>matchmaking goes to shitI’m nooticing
>>555941153What was that, ban vindicta? Anon, I already have her avoided.
New bread?
>>555940705Stop pretending to be Indian to bait people online
>>555941325Having 2 up at the same time is fucking insane though.
>>555941153haze makes sense if you're high mmr, but yeah paige oppressive every rank.
>>555941153you will NEVER convince me to allow that mossad agent into my fucking games with his bombs. i dont care how broken paige is
the wish i plan on making lists me, my team, the rejuvenation here, but only one of youfirst one to talk gets to stay in my ritual
A friend of mine is absolutely convinced that Victor is the most OP hero in the game.No matter what I show him he refuses to see reason.He plays fucking BILLY of all characters and is Eternus 1.Even eternus players have complete retard takes.
YOU'RE DEAD
>>555942319>>555942319>>555942319>>555942319
>>555926176Haze's Deadlock design is post-Sweet Baby and not DEI-induced. She's made out of smoke, nigger.Calico's design is from Neon Prime where Valve was going full sweet baby with fat sumo dynamo and miles morales inferno. Haze back then was a stupid star wars alien with a man face. Haze's character design in Deadlock is iconic and one of the best looking ones of all, even if her model is unfinished, the official artwork of her is great.
>>555911812I salute you
>>555943924Sumos are DEI now? Should someone tell the Shogan?
>>555917853>the ''muh alpha'' shit is pure cope by retards who want to feel like they are in some super sekrit special beta test.tbdesu i see it used more for cope when it comes to thinks like balance or matchmaking or sinclair's model rather than "ooh i am so... le SECRET and GATED!" or anything of that sort
