Fatherless Behavior Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>556076825
Reminder this game runs like actually dog shit on Steam Deck. You'd think stable 30fps wouldn't be too much to ask
>smashed my 'W' key finger todayit's over for me bros. my left hand's middle finger is busted.
WIFWOLF
Silver's kit is weak as fuck
What do you think Vyper's childhood was like. Street urchin that took to prostitution and theft?
>>556110935F
>>556110927Forgot pic
Unstable concoction is the worst legendary
>>556111035where is it?
How many games do I need to play before I can see my ranking?
Slork lives?
>>556110969>big burst in human form>big dps and sustain in anthro formWhere's the weakness
>playing as silver in brool against enemy comp that has TWO juggernaut1 bullet every minute lmao
1-12 gun doorman just doing random shit the whole game>see he has a spanish namefucking peru why do they grief valve games so much
thinking about that anon who said a werewolf named silver is like a vampire named onion
>>556110927this is a steam deck 2 and gabecube game chud
>>556111081extension keeps removing img
Vyper needs to stop watching Lash sleep, it's fucking with his image when the only thing people can smell on him is the scent of ligger squirt particulate.
holy SHIT shes awful
>>556111007normalshe got into some shit as a teen and went off the rails from thereshe has no excuse or justification for why she's the way she is. it's all just her
>>556110842Seven is silvers dad and that's why they have the same animations....
>>556111138uh you mean garlic lil nig?
>>556111138You mean garlic? Pretty sure that exists
quick whats the instant transform method for silver
>>556111238>>556111248
>>556111173>character does something other than w+m1>99% of playerbase can't play themseen it before
>>556111173no farming capability = shitters feeding
>>556110823yeah the soul, although this got me thinking maybe you could punch the heal to steal it (especially if you see them back up to try and give their lane partner a solo heal)
>>556111173jfc she's literally mina and shiv tiershe's gonna get buffs before thursday for sure
Is there anyway to climb out of "players who just installed" showing up in my games? I figured being Arcanist wouldn't be as bad as like Initiate but it seems like every single game on my team or the enemy its somebody who just installed and they go 0 and 10. I have 400 hours but I've never really had my rank rise in the year I've played.
>>556111106having an actual design for Slork and Wrecker would be great if they eventually come back to themonce again asking for weirdos and monsters instead of whatever 4/6 of this current voting roster is
>>556111292You niggers said the same thing about Mina for weeks after her release, no shes just fucking horribly undertuned
>>556111293I can't even clear waves with Silver. It's slow AF
>>556111173her human form is so painful in lane and for farming
>>556111373they supposedly fixed that today
>shiv vic dynamo rem on the enemy team>bans are McG and and fucking paige>Bebop gives the explanation of "Fuck paige"Kill all Bebop players
Now that valve has proved that a shooter-moba can be actually good, I'm excited to see the ripoff game that doesn't have dogshit experimental mechanics like melee/parry that fuck with the readability of the game and is just about shooting and movement.
>>556111390>victors whole gameplay is w+m1>top 1, breaks the game>graves whole gameplay is w+m1 >top 1, breaks the game>every other character release>released to 50% or less winrate for months until a meme streamer solves thempretty sure deadcocks are just retarded
>graves nerfedgraves downplayers, response??
>>556111508>deadlock but no depth or creative design spaceyour hero shooters madame?
>>556111518Its all the Overwatch and LoL retards
>be arcanist> my team is mostly around arcanist> keep getting games where at least 1 person on the enemy team is phantom 2 or some shit> they stomp the game from the start> play game after todays patch> ITS STILL FUCKING HAPPENING
>>556111592u-um shes bad in high elon-no don't look at this!!! https://tracklock.gg/heroes-tier-list/2026-01-30/all/eternus
>>556111518being fair Victor is insanely feast or famine even when his numbers are good and a IQ test for how good you are at just walking away from the guy whose entire gameplan is walking up to you and using his stink aura, Graves almost literally plays herself and has been out for less than a week
>>556111632"I parried, he gets stunned""I spam punch because it's a teamfight and he's shooting someone else"Nice 'depth'
>>556111173i understand that mina and shiv are pubstompers but why are they so fucking bad?
has anyone had a base defense resulting in won match swing with the new bases?
>>556111768no, the layout is too open
>>556111751because their numbers suckliterally if you gave Shiv his old numbers back he'd immediately be busted strong again
I hate Graves so fucking much. I hate that she gets literal free macro for existing. Actual bot character
>>556111714unironically deeper than anything in overwatch or marvels
>>556111714RPS with positioning, builds and counter builds, team combos, and verticality doebeit
>>556111714>not mentioning baiting parries>not mentioning melee cancels I accept your concession
>>556111173She's F tier and people are telling me she isn't terrible.
>>556111714>RPS>manipulation of mental stack for mind gamesso every strategy game to ever exist including chess?
>>556111768i've had zero comebacks since they've changed.
>>556111768Had it the other way around, because everyone is too retarded to keep lane priority on more than 1 lane.Genuinely convinced when this game gets solidified roles, one of them will be a roamer guy whos job is entirely about keeping the lanes pushed
>>556111893shes only not terrible in street brawl because she doesn't have to deal with shit farming/laning so she scales fairly well
>All the new heroes have Slork linesIs he actually real or is it another Shitty Wizard voiceline?
>>556111818Take the Sinclairpill and steal her ult 24/7
>>556111975>whos job is entirely about keeping the lanes pushed???that's basic MOBA farming. that's how the haze or infernus show up with a 15k+ surplus if their team is able to stall with long team fights
I'm pretty sure anybody could just read the numbers on Silver's abilities and tell she's bad.
>>556111768I feel like guardian fights don't even happen anymoreit's too hard to poke through the choke and once they break through it's so open that the higher NW team just steamrolls with numbers
>>556111834Those games don't have items. It's too extra>>556111937Parrying is a 50/50 risk/reward where you stun yourself to stop doing damage, if someone feints their heavy they can now get a free melee off on you and you took all the risk and are punished for doing so. This is why actual 3d melee games like mordhau have a 'point of no return' for swings you can watch for in order to parry them, in deadlock it's just down to the guy feinting at the last second instead of during the wind up
>>556112109have you considered double jumping in the air or dash jumping away instead of taking the parry mind game?
>>556112003It's too early to tell but this game is going to go through at least one more hero dump before launch so bringing back some of the hero lab rejects makes sense if they figured out the kinks. Please bring back Wrecker...
>>556112094I knew she was bad because >forced ult punishing you for damaging enemy heroes>mostly gun damage with no decent spirit burst in a meta where gun damage was heavily nerfedShe's just going to be a lifesteal tank that's worse in every way to other heroes that do it better because people can just stun her or wait
>walk away from silver at a brisk pace>she is not incapable of hurting youThis entire character is flawed
>>556112098They have to buff the guardian. The lane compression from 4 to 3 feels like absolute shit to play when you fell behind.I still hate the urn sidequest as a comeback mechanic.
>>556112109if you think he's going to whiff or cancel you shoot him in the face and he spent 2 seconds standing around while you pour damage into himit's an interaction of intent. reaction checks are just skill checks that check if you've had you've been taking your adderal or not, it's not good gameplay
>>556112271>Comeback mechanic>It favors the winning teamIncredible design, yoshi.
>>556112231now* FUCK
>>556112192Wrecker, Trapper, Raven, and Slork should all definitely come back with actual models and QoL fixes in the next voting round
>>556112292Reaction checks are how these games actually define skill and not guessing. This is an argument I don't want to have because it's pointless, dota is all about chess, shooters are all about reaction and mechanics, but I think the place they actually intersect in a bad way is the melee mechanic because at least the movement shooter stuff (including heavy punch momentum) feels like it fits in what this game is trying to do
>>556112231>Oh no i have to buy items to counteract my character's weakness
Silver just needs some numerical buff. Her playstyle is fun, but it's just not worth it. Other characters will be more effective at hitting you with m1 than you will be with all your jumps and transformations. It's basically Shiv if he had shitty damage.
>>556112271map control is the most important advantage because it leads to every other advantageit's really fucking hard to contest map control when the map is so small and you can cross it in under 10 seconds
This dumb useless wolf is only good for sexBasically down a player
>play first Silver match earlier>trigger yiff mode twice throughout the whole match>have Silver on my team>she goes yiff mode four times before laning phase is overwhat the fuck?
>>556112192They should do fathom at the same time they remodel viscous, this game could use more lovecraft deep ones as a category of hero mindflayer when
GIVE ME ONE REASON WHY BOHO WOULDNT HAVE FIT WITH THE NEW HEROES
>>556112407>they actually intersect in a bad way is the melee mechanicliterally countered by the movement. pivoting from a heavy melee to smack someone doing a double jump or a wall jump is difficult. use the verticality, use your brain.
>>556112446Being able to fly across the map in seconds for free is a bad thing, but people complain if you mention it.
>>556112491it means your aim sucks
>>556112491You need to be close to your enemies if you want to deal damage. Her shotgun is deceptively accurate but the damage starts to drop off very early.
>>556112491you have to do damage to transform...anon...
I think people would like the melee system more if there was less auto parry users, somehow even in shitlow people know how to parry better than 3000 hour mordhau/chiv 360 feint ballerina veterans
>>556112545make the map bigger, dummy.
>>556112491>need to deal damage to heroes to trigger ult>you aren't triggering ulthmmmmm I wonder....
Dont worry Venatorbros, they released a weak dogshit character so we could walk in and ruin the game balance for months
Silver isn't shit she is just high skill cap which all the people infatuated with her aren't. So you'll have to deal with these people playing like absolute shit.
>>556111845I don't understand those things so they don't count
you should be able to ult whenever on silver and her shotgun should fire faster and her human form should do more damage and i shouldn't have to ever let go of m1 or w or think about any lane but blue
>>556112545moving is fun but too much movement fucks up the macro gamesince moving fast is fun and no one wants to see it go, shrimply make the map bigger
>>556111062this retard still playing street brawl lmao
>>556112715Yeah and Mina was secretly extremely good at launch.
I really just feel like I have no ability to affect the outcome of the game
>>556112681YesVenator is literally the main m1 character.
Mina isn't shit she is just high skill cap which all the people infatuated with her aren't. So you'll have to deal with these people playing like absolute shit.
>Turbo giga rape lane with Billy + Ivy>Doesn't matter because the enemy team has Infernus, Seven and Victor and they just win by scalingebin
>>556112748Its funny seeing the exact same cope people had with Mina on her releaseAnd at least Mina had the excuse that she could destroy any objectives in seconds with her ult even if she was useless outside of that
>>556112715She is the opposite of Graves. She had very low skill requirements to perform well.Silver, in contrast, has high skill requirements to be even half decent.
>>556112681>silver's kit is loaded with burst heals and sustain tools>venny is an anti-tankthey deliberately released silver undertuned so they could over buff her. it's a set up for the narrative of when they release venator to hard counter her and save the game
My mousepad has a surface area of like 40 inches and I have my sensitivity so low that sliding my mouse all the way across doesn't even get me a 180 turn and I still can't fucking hit peopleMy aim is cursed
>>556112416There's quite literally no reason to play Silver when Victor exists.Literally the same fucking character concept but better
>sf6 and tekken 8 both have you pay $40 plus tax for 4 characters released throughout an entire year>meanwhile yoshiGOD releases 6 characters every half yeardamn guys, i made a mistake getting into fightan
>>556112913or abramsreally any tank
>>556112563>>556112570>>556112572>>556112606oh :(
>>556112913...the reason is the gameplay experience of controlling the character and their mechanics?are you a drone? do you only care about getting the shiny banana sticker telling you what a good boy you are at the end of the match?
silver is a spirit hero btw
>attacking doesn't persist if you're holding m1 while morphing back into human formUnplayable. Do they even playtest this shit?
Silversisters...she's a loser both in lore and in game ...
>>556112930to be fair, fighting game characters need a shit ton of animations and have way more working parts than deadlock heroes
>>556112891My “mouse zone” is 15 centimeters next to the keyboard on an ancient (it's older than me) office desk with a piece of wood missing. And of course, there's no mouse pad, just smooth, slippery lacquered wood. High sensitivity too.I have no problem hitting enemies.
>get into a game>Holliday on my team>zero headshots, zero landed barrels, zero good lassos>we lose cause she did nothing but fucking feed Abrams, Drifter and Calico all fucking gameThey need to lock this hero from being played until people pass a comprehensive Holliday test in game. Holy fuck there is NOTHING more detrimental than a fucking retarded Holliday player that can't even so much as fucking LASSO SOMEBODY INTO THE MIDDLE OF HER TEAM FOR FREE KILLS.
>>556113089A loser in the hands of bads which is the majority of Silver players.
>>556113065the only thing that matters is winning and the character feeling good to playsilver is bad at both
extend the underground area (not the rem tunnels) into a sprawling map just as big as the streets. place its own objectives and resources to interact with. don't add any movement short cuts like teleporters or jump pads or ziplines so that your positioning actually mattersthere. fixed the small map and too many players problem
>>556113079>hero built around her ultimate and has pitifully short range on all her ult abilities>people go DURR BUILD HER GUN HERO!!! MELEE!!I don't get why people who play this game are so dogshit and retarded
So Silver is shit as expected?
>>556113496her 1 and 2 feel good as fuck and she has a satisfying gunit's lame that the game is a run and gun bullet hose simulator and silver's design is against that
>just lost to a gun lash>our silver tried to fight him>she turns into her werewolf form and he just uses his 2>as she runs aimlessly at him>all my other teammates go running for him>gets 4 of them in a ult>here comes his team>they're deadI really don't even know anymore
>>556113531Underbaked in both animations and numbers, Yoshi should’ve rigged the votes
>>556111751>>556111803just watched some eternus player make a tierlist and he put shiv as the #1 strongest character and Mina as #2nd, come on deadlock general and ppl saying they're actually the two weakest???
nah silver wolf mode is legit broken bruv more tanky than shiv + driftnigger tier damage
>>5561135304 of her 6 abilities scale with gun damage...
>>556113696buy cc you dumb chav
>>556113648>underbaked in animations>her human form charge is literally captain falcon's up+b or Trigger's EX Specialwat, they cooked omega hard with the animations
>>5561137102 of her ult abilities (out of 3) are spirityou can't use those abilities when you're in ult against your willyou can be in ult more often with cooldown items
I'll take gun meta any day of the goddamn week over shit like this
>two teammates feed the enemy victor early>combined they do less than 15k damage total in 30 minutes>victor never died a single timei feel like youd have to be mentally ill to keep playing this game, how is this fun at all to have the match ruined and be stuck in hell for 30 minutes without surrender button
If you're returning from when the game had 4 lanes I think yoshi finally unbugged your rankings today, I would not move up nor down even after a 8 game loss/win streak. I moved up after a single MVP game, prior to today I could string together 6 mvp/key player games and not move up despite playing in lobbies higher than my rank
>>556113857just an honest days work brooling
>>556113823She literally reuses Seven's melee/parry animations and Drifter's animations for her ult, Rem and Graves were not like this
>>556113158sure bro mina will be peak any day now
>>556113875Why do you people think the solution to bad matchmaking is not to fix matchmaking but to add a forefeit option?
>>556113531>regular kit isn't really good enough to compete in lane and can't farm well either>transformation doesn't last anywhere long enough for it to be consistently useful despite it being the main source of doing any damage and survivalHer ult REALLY needs to be a manual toggle, it's incredibly inconvenient how easy it is to go into wolf form and simply being unable to secure souls because you have zero range while you sit around being a worse Abrams.
>>556113637>lash's 2 totally invalidates her ult >a charged abilityKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Explain how heroes who fight unarmed can be disarmed
why are they nerfing bebop and also making it so he has no realistic counter play to counter spell and dispel magic?
>>556113943have you considered fighting the enemy
>>5561138524 > 2
>>556114051
>>556113695i just meant "why are they both in D tier despite being pubstompers?"
>>556114051she literally uses her arms to fight. getting disarmed is her worst nightmare
>silver needs to be in your face to do damage>has 2 fucking staminagenuinely what the fuck were they thinking
This Silver dame doesn't do anythingRelease Mina could at least nuke objectives in 2 seconds.
>>556113632>Satisfying gunShe can't even kill a minion and get an orb without expending a skill and suppressor fucks her
>>556114173Gun Rem is based btw
While her lycanthropy being uncontrollable is SOVL its such a retarded idea in practice to make your most powerful ability mostly out of your control when it activates
Valve should add an actually cute vampire to deadlock>bro your dog-eating gook mina?Only whites can be cute vampires
>>556113081considering the state she is its very likely they didn't
>>556114319but you just posted a gook
>>556113875>without surrender buttongo back to the game that has a surrender button
I play nothing but Bot games because I'm fucking retarded garbage and dont' want to ruin other people's real matches.
>>556114085bola and boot kick are spirit too
shotgun looks like ass
>valve knows silver will be voted in relatively early>dont work on her animations at all>instead polish the fuck out of apollo's animations, the likely last hero in???????????
>>556114468Just play Paige. I'm convinced this hero could be played optimally even by a literal monkey.
>>556114468The bots suck, matches with real people are way better. Who cares if you suck just try your best.
>>556114051Disarming hex shows the hand being ripped off, so probably like that.
>le uncontrollableare you blindthe icon fills up as you deal damage. when it's almost full start a fight>paying attention is hard :(
>>556113943what she really needs is a spender for her ult meter so you have more control over when you go into melee, or at least tone down how much meter just shooting adds and make your skills the true ult builders, either way I get its cool and thematic to have the werewolf have no control over her transformations but it's so ass just doing your basic gameplay and then being forced into the melee form
>>556114580>Who cares if you suckyou when you get me on your team
>>556114468I can't beat the medium bots.
>>556114382Remilia is white.
>>556114649>damn my meter is almost full but now is a bad time to ult>I guess I just wont do damage for awhile!This is a great idea and makes for fun gameplay
>>556114710id eat her shit ngl
>>556114669Same as every other game I queue into, you'll learn more playing against and people and have more fun
>>556114649>try and catch up farm in the jungle>whoops my ult popped>runs out by the time I find someone to jump>oh whoops a team fight started and my ult is on CDbeing punished for doing your basic gameplay isn't a good thing
Canon image after today
>>556114743>comes up with the dumbest conclusion possibleyou literally have two (2) whole buttons that throw you at the enemyif you're sentient and see the meter is almost full, stop poking from max range and commit to a kill it's the exact same shit as drifter>pick brooler>do nothing but afk farm>wtf why is this character so weakFIGHT
>>556111440They did not, I got an Infernus who went 1-10-6 and refused to show up to any team fights or objectives. He just farmed and fed.
>>556114898yuri is so fucking boring though
>>556114483wow so much damage!
>>556114921how is it anything like drifterdrifter has total control of his actions at all timesi think you might be a chimp
>>556114898Mina Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa would never think about having sex with a (((werewolf)))
>>556114973uh yeanow look at her 2 in her ult
>>556112913That means therefore that she will be more important later, as a bullet alternative to Victor
>>556114743>niggers are getting filtered by fucking Gnar mechanics
Im not been able to play Silver, her divekick gives her invul frames?
dont worry silversisters, big daddy venator will silence all those mean bullies come thursday
>>556114992drifter is a character that runs at enemies and fights themretards pick him and afk farmsilver is a character that runs at enemies and fights themretards pick him and afk farm>there's nothing I could do dood!you quite literally 100% control when your ult goes off. you are responsible for if you transform when its shit for you>I don't want to set up fights>I don't want to dive>I don't want to rotatethen don't pick the character that forces you to do that
>>556115078what the fuck is gnar
>>556112231Holy fucking shit
funny how drifter isnt down there hmm I wonder why
i think her kit is really fun, but her gun should shoot a little faster or hit harder at base
>>556115016AnonIt's barely better than Shiv knives. And it doesn't stack or ricochet, so two Shiv knives would be better than this piece of crap.
Silver has Mina syndrome, where her gun does nothing outside of ability usage (Silver 1, Mina 3) and that makes people that don't understand that play like shit, misunderstanding the bursty playstyle the human form has.I think good Mina players will be good Silver players.
>>556115345spirit is silver's build. don't cry to me when it's meta
>>556115354mina has a get out of jail free card that dictates her whole playstyle
You load into a game of Deadlock.The Enemies are a Haze, Rem, Paige, The Lash™, Infernus and IvyYour team is A Bebop, Drifter, Silver, Shiv, Mina and You.What do you do?
>introduce a furfag waifu hero>she isn't completely OP on release and requires a moderate amount of situational awareness>total melty ensuesi wanted venator today but this might be better
>>556115385Yeah, Silver's tankier to make up for it.
>>556115391fight forever
>>556115093no lol
Isnt it funny that people said the exact same thing about Mina being secretly OP but just high skill floor and turned out she was just dogshit and needed tons of buffs I wonder if Silver will be the same...
>>556115391Concede
>>556115391>and YouMe? Like "ME" me?I eat Mina's pussy for 30 minutes and end up cumming in my pants.
>>556115479Silver is absolutely gonna need the same, she is very undertuned and she is winning currently because people just dont know how to play against her
>>556115479>turned out she was just dogshit and needed tons of buffsher Love Bites buff was completely unneeded and ended up causing the abomination she is now.
>>556115391hope and pray to god my drifter mina and bebop are autistic 1 tricks
>ban victor>victor appears on enemy team>gets fed by shitters>lose
>>556115391I'm Abrams, so we win since I always carry the team on my back
>>556115368I understand that this is a joke but toxic bullets deal more damage than this bleeding.
How's Silver?
>>556115429sure but the play style ends up very different. mina players are carried by turning into batsthe biggest playstyle overlap is probably calico or spirit drifter. big damage close range burst
>>556115563they're not, the Drifters name is russian
Nothing in this world makes me realize that its pointless to try in life quite like deadlockIt doesn't matter what I want, I'm always meant to lose. at everything in life
>>556115604 bad
>>556115604Fun but weak
Graves is fair and balanced.
>thought Silver's claws would be similar to Drifters and have some range to it>literally have to face check to hit someone
>>556115643You suck at learning.
>killing shot popped my ultimate+6m/s! box farming yippee!!
>>556115613then i bite the bullet on the abandon
>>556115440Oh cmon dont tell me you can parry all of her werewolf spells too.
silver is the first of the new characters that I like but shes the one I cannot win games with ever
>release graves>all her animations are done>super OP to the point she needs emergency nerfsAre Valve cunnyfags?
>>556115391Lose because the silver will feed.
Welp, it's obviously going to be celeste next or whatever her name is
>don't get any mag upgrades on silver>you can't charge your ult in sbgreat hero. well thought out
>human form wants burst damage and hates sustained fights>werewolf form wastes burst damage and wants sustained fightsAAHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK DO I BUIIIILD
Now that we officially have a werewolf champ, we have direct evidence that Vampires > Werewolves
Why is Bebop a fucking unkillable cancer tank now that also shits damage? Is Valve retarded?
>>556112570How do you get away with being close to enemies in a game where everyone has their own nukes? She's not even exceptionally tanky early on. And you don't have any reliable displacement outside of your 2 which is risky to hit and only gives them a single dodge's worth of distance backwards with no further CC. You have your bolas if you're chasing down people but what good do those do you when they're tucked under tower and diving will get you beamed to death?
>>556115972The recent streetbrawl match I endured like I was in vietnam had billy, paige, and silver all completely unkillable by round two.
The matchmaking update did not fix a god damn thing im still going against people 2+ ranks higher with people my rank or lower the fuck is this bullshit???
>>556116018you man the fuck up and dive with your free heal, bonus health, and resistances
>>556113941forfeits make games go faster allowing mmr to settle faster, retard!!
I'm encountering more and more matches where certain characters are just unkillable after the second round and I want to ask into the void as to why people even like valve (as game devs) in the first place.
>>556116058>you [feed]
>>556116040>mm update was for new/returning players>meanwhile we who have already been around still get shaftedJust monkey paw things.
>>556116147brool life niggaif you have it in you to calculate the risks then you aren't built for the knot
>>556115892follow your dreams, anon. I am working on the "BVILT FOR HUMAN MALES" but I need way more run before I can shit out something semi-good
Flopping tranny deadcock.
I was hoping one of her base stats would have some sort of spirit scaling. She seems like the prime candidate to have spirit scaling movespeed.
>>556116195Guess you're rightI like her visual design but her kit feels like shit to me, I'd rather go 2-1 than 7-12
>>556114541Remove the picatinny rail and the design is fixed, just a good ol' lever action shotgun.
>>556116152Nah even newer players are getting fucked over, valve/yoshi can't do shit.
>>556116143>why people even like valve (as game devs) in the first placeIt is literally a cult fandom based entirely around shit they did between 15 and 20 years ago, their cultivated mystique, and on tales of their office policies and work environmentit is not based on anything real and concrete from recentlylike I guess they still have a knack for voice direction and casting and world design but they were also stupid enough to consult with SBI and make something like Neon Prime, so they're clearly clueless in large regards
>>556114743>damn my meter is almost full but now is a bad time to ultthere's literally no time where this is true, you get a bunch of buffs, all her human moves are close range and recharge while you're transformed even if you press the same button and it has a 20s cooldown between morphs so itll be up for the next teamfight
>3 games with leavers in a row
>>556115112Thanks friend, appreciate it
>ult prepped>boot, slam fire>forget to press the ult for instant transform so I just awkwardly waddle around and get melted fuck. this apm challenge is a bitch, especially since you have to land the burst shots and position the boot displacement. and if you do land the combo you're probably going to be in the middle of a fight and want to instantly disarm and lifesteal since they don't have a cast pointthis shit's going to break my fingers
>can't even attack the new twin guardians in wolf form because of their spammy as fuck knockback meleeslol
>>556116532does he really wear that shirt?
>>556116369dude the picatinny rail is so out of place what retard designed the guns for this game, they all look and feel like garbage
>>556116532It's always surprising how people get mad at leavers in a game like this where getting fucked in the ass isn't actually fun for new players or players in general
>>556116692yeah, it was all he was given when he went into the white void
>>556116687your parry?
>>556116672fuck and cold front is perfect for her too>3 -> 2~[180 flick] -> cold front -> 1~[3 headshots] -> 4 -> 3~1 -> 2WHY AM I HAVING TO MEMORIZE COMBO NOTATION
>on a lane vs a Geist and a Mina as Gun McGinnis with a Paige>I do not have the burst damage to do anything on this fucking wretched lane since Mina can't just hold people down for several seconds as I dump my entire mag into their heads and the Geist and Mina aren't some meleetard hero we can bait into getting parried for a free long stun>he keeps trying to be aggressive and make shit happen and dies>tell the Paige I do not have the burst damage to make any of this shit she's doing stick or net any sort of kill>this retard keeps trying to do it anyway just to die again>we have a 0-8 Silver troon and a 1-5 Paige>we're losing for a bit but thankfully Pocket and Yamato pulled it together while me and Warden ratted and scaled up by turbo farming>then we started rolling the enemy team in every fight despite it being a 4 (and a half cause Paige has shields) vs 6 and we wonI seriously don't fucking understand these retards man. Why are you trying to be aggressive on Paige of all things? Why are you trying to make shit happen with a McGinnis as a lane partner (only really strong in the late game if the enemy team isn't giga retarded or if she doesn't have a Mo/Dynamo spoonfeeding her)?? Literally all she had to do was play safe and just turbo clear the minion waves and go even so we can just outscale.
Played for three hours today and not one game was fun. All were complete trash. Had to uninstall because you never get the hero you want and you're stuck with retards feeding every single game. In theory this game is good in practice the fun games are like 1/10. Waste of time and I can't be baited into wasting my free time on this utter trash
>>556116769Those things don't stay parried for very long at all
VENATOR BROSOUR TIME IS COMING
>>556116861*since Paige can't justFuck.
>>556116916>Mad cause badMany such cases
>>556116916>wahh i can't play da hero i like by picking them and then haze+mina! i'm stupid!
Honestly, my main disappointment is how low her HP is. Silver is the third lowest HP character after Rem and Mina.
lets see what this book can do
>sinclair is just a better silversilver bros....
>>556116916This game is an utter mess that is fueled by a fanbase of retards that don't live in reality
>>556117023erm, your werewolf form?
>>556115816What makes you say that?
>>556117023Seriously, what were these retards thinking?She's a brawler
>>556116369Zesty ah cat
>>556116730yeah I agree we should just be able to leave any game when we're not having fun fuck the other 11 people
>>556117023I've had more issues trying to kill her thanks to her fucking wolf form than anything
The scaling on her human 2 is total doodoo
oh you don't buy firerate items because you only care about firerate as a wolfspirit gives you fire rate as a wolfyou just ignore that shit entirely and rely purely on spirit breakpoints while buying fighting actives
have your guys' games felt any better after the little matchmaking tweaks?
Her voicelines are so fucking lame.It's just Vyper but tuned down to 0.4 density. Same VA, same type of personality of a tired lazy homeless degenerate girl.While Lowrie voices Dynamo, Sniper and like 4 different characters in Dota - and all sound unique.
>>556117201You're like a crab trying to force another crab to stay in the boiling water.
>>556117254I've had a few that were close and not coinflip stompsbefore it was 100% coinflip stomps progress
>>556116916the game is amazing once it clicks
>>556117254Fuck no
>>556116958yep im bad at mind controlling my teammates in the other lane from feeding the late game powerscalers like haze/victor that snowball and rape the game for 40 minutes straight>>556117342I've played hundreds of matches but the longer the game has been out the worse the game feels because you are mixed with utterly garbage players and experienced ones, the game only works to be fun if youre all equally skilled
>>556117254I guess they do feel slightly betterBut I hate how I'm aware of my "rank"I liked being blissfully oblivious to it
>>556117079>>556117130I thought I was doing something wrong and dying before the wolf form but then I checked boons and it only has 28 HP per level. What a joke>>556117215I had no problems with that at all. Bonuses from the wolf form are not that strong, and usually the enemy Silver just dies silly thinking she is stronger than she is. It only takes one person to buy a juggernaut to render the wolf form completely useless.
>>556117342>the game is amazing once it clicks>you see the game is good when you dump in hours that you can't get back
>>556117254Nope.
>>556111007Why is that monitor screen so damn tiny
>>556117456i think theres an option setting to not see ranks at the post game scoreboard and to not see your mmr increase/decreases
>>556117254i'm archon and 3/4 of the games i played today were in alchemistso no
>>556117517There used to be an option to not see your rank but I think they removed itI do have the option that hides the post match ranks and MMR changes ticked, but the one that actually hides the rank seems to be gone
would veil walker be good on silver?>wants to roam and fight>wants to jump people and initiatesounds perfect for her on paper
>>556117487yea that took me like 5-10 hours and then lash clicked and i was in love with the game, that shrimple
Only thing I want from Venator is for crossbow to nail ragdolls to walls, hope Valve knows what they're doing.
new drifter ult
Silver is:- not good at ganking- not good at initiating- not good at tanking- no support abilitieswhat's she good at?
Silver feels like someone's OC desu. I can't explain why but her model feels like it was modded in game. Lore wise she's boring too
>>556116931It'll be worth the wait
>>556117671rutting
>>556111751because they require skill so the average player is garbage with them and feeds
When are we getting a skelebro hero?inb4: nevah cause chinks
>>556117725she certainly jobs often
>>556117747Bro?Your Seven?
>>556117747Closest you'll get is Graves' skulls, hell the game doesn't even call them skulls, just "Deadheads"
>>556117671being cute
>>556116916Retards feeding en masse exist in every fucking comp game retard. You ain't escaping it. Too many brown retards and broccoli haired mutts in first world countries now. The matchmaking pool is browner than my toilet bowl after Taco Bell.
>>556117747We only get 5% of a lich's power in-game, how do you imagine a fully animated skeleton would exist?
comming my team out of multiple lanes giga feeding into a decisive win tickles my RTS autism, I just wish I knew itemization better. I'll buy disarming hex, cursed relic and decay and just have no idea why its super effective vs why it does nothing game to game.
please please god make left mouse queue after abilitieslet me hold m1 instead of playing this skill recovery minigame
laughing at all the skill-less retards thinking Silver is actually badthe playerbase is going to get her buffed to the fucking moon (pun intended) and she's gonna be a solo queue terroristher only weakness is her early laning isn't great but once you get a few items and her ult she starts steam rolling. She's literally an unkillable death ball and she doesn't even need to heavy melee in ult because the M1 swings do so much fucking damage Even in the games I have lost with her I have done exceptionally well. In team fights she's an absolute monster.Mark my words once people actually good at the game start showing her off, she's going to end up shiv tier busted
Silver is so unfinished that I'm really surprised they released her in this state.>>556117671Anti-tank? Her 1 in normal form deals % damage relative to current HP, easily starts toxic bullets, and her 1 in wolf form deals more damage the less health the opponent has.So I guess the idea was>Pounce on the thickest enemy>Exchanged your HP for his>Transform into a wolf and finish him offAnd yeah, it doesn't really work.
>>556117860That's the thing. A mystery.I want him not to have anything special about his backstory. He's just a random office guy who died horrible but somehow kept living. And how he tries to understand why.Maybe he's some unipmortat accountat who's car was exploded by a mafia for not complying, hence why he's a skeleton instead of a corpse.
>>556117946she feels pretty good to meshe's definitely not pick up and playit's the mina dilemma all over again. strong kit, dumb gooner players
Silver is super fun to play desu
>>556117946This is literally people copeing about Mina actually being awesome 2.0
>>556117994people forget everyone thought Mina was garbage on release too and then people started actually playing herRemember when her ult used to just fucking shred walkers?
>>556117994Mina is way, waaay easier and stronger than Silver
>>556118060release mina was definitely assthe functionality of her kit was never bad though, she just needed some number bumps and as soon as she got them everyone started bitching en masse
>>556117946post build
>>556112930I quit fighting games pretty much all together after the covid shit, once tournaments came back there was a huge influx of trannies at them. Doesn't help that my main game's most recent entry was also trannified dogshit and completely threw away it's identity.
my aim sucks and i find it really hard to aim with silver's gun
>>556117317you're like a rat trying to live in the ocean, Maybe go play in the floorboards, thats more your speed
You know what the most ridiculous part is? Suddenly they're concerned about realism, and Silver's shotgun only has 5 rounds in the tube. Meanwhile Abrams has 9 rounds in a 4-round revolver.>>556118121>she just needed some number bumpsSame with Silver
you know something i appreciate about deadlock?the fact that the stylish splash screens are the actual 3d models of the heroes
>>556118163same but then i go werewolf
>This character isn't shit they're just hard, people will figure it out eventually!>Ignore that her winrate fucking sucks everywhere!History repeats with launch Mina
>>556118170>you see I have no argument so I have to lazily reiterate what you said
I feel like people are sleeping bigly on Rem, bad pun intended... I'm a fucking terrorist maxxing my 3 first and sending 4 juiced creeps up the lane.
>>556118163its a shotgunyou're shooting a big cone>>556118191probably. the screeching doomers are total retards though. she's functional and not as bad as people make her out to be
Silver is gonna get overbuffed lmao
>>556118283it's better if you have a mcginnis because then you get BIG turrets.
>>556118285its a shotgun but the spread is extremely tight, moreso than other shotgun characters like abrams, shiv, etc
>>556118285No, she's bad. Not unplayably bad, but playing her feels like going against the grain.
>>556107524Can someone explain the 'bepop' meme to me? I see it so often but I don't get it. It is some ESL thing where 'bepop' makes more sense to them?'
>>556118283No people are just too retarded to play himRem is an icefraud support that rewards tons of macro play
>>556118283>>556118368mcginnis rem needs to be hotfixed, dont even need to buff the turrets the creeps being unkillable on top of turrets shooting you is just ridiculoushe will get the creep thing nerfed once people realize how good it is, it's just way too strong but thankfully people find the helpers boring and max the other abilities
>>556118283hes super fun and the tunnels are awesome
Is there a way to just permanently ban minaI'm tired of her auto winning lane every game
this is busted right?if you get focus lens as your first t4 don't you just instagib someone?
>>556118413It's just a misspelling because it's "Bebop" and "Bepop" can sound very similar in most of the voicelines
so silver has one of the slowest firing, lowest mag size guns in the game that also reloads 1 bullet at a time but it also deals some of the lowest damage in the game too?
>>556118613you're not supposed to sit there holding m1
>>556118565There are a million and one item that make the wolf form almost useless.
>>556118565*pops Vampiric Burst and just kills you*
>>556118123441496 is my build ID some of the categories are a little schizo though sorry about thatpeople are saying point blank is apparently bugged and not working with her ult but Im keeping point blank on there anyway until it's fixed
>>556118613She also has one of the lowest hps in the gameShe's extremely undertuned right now
>>556118643yeah but you have to do damage to get into her superior wolf form though
Silver is gonna be near useless in higher ranks, meanwhile she is gonna be a perma pick in lower ranks where all the lesbian fans live and they along with the russian drifters will go 0/10/1 within the first 10 min of all your matches.Enjoy.
>Shoot minion>Orb appears>Shoot again>Orb appears before she chambers the next round so the shot is delayedActually wtf were they thinking here
>>556118613it could definitely use a slight fire rate buffin early lane I save shots for denial/last hitting and just focus on meleeing creeps and using 1 to hit enemy heroesPlay around veil like you would as Billy or Abrams.
>>556117973She's proof that hero labs were actually a good idea
>going to have to wait another week for celestegive me my horse NOW
>>556118783you have to hit with all the pellets in close rangeif you're worried about taking a while to pop wolf form, grab split shot
>>556117671She's felt pretty weak when on enemy team in my experience, but I've had her on my team twice as Ivy support and won both times. I think she really really shines when she's got someone helping her, because she practically shits out DPS. She just needs help to get in there and deliver it, so gargoyle + werewolf sister squad seems to do wellI usually run nova + beam -> vortex web + echo shard true form and it seems to make a load of difference
>silver was made lame on purpose to mock furries after luring them into the game
>>556117973>Silver is so unfinished that I'm really surprised they released her in this state.if they hadn't we wouldn't have gotten this update until like fucking march, it was now or never they can fix her in post
>>556110927if you're playing a competitive third person shooter moba game with fast movement on a fucking steam deck I'm gonna need you to rope.
>>556118976But Rem is the furry character and he's pretty solidSilverfags are mostly normal people in my experience
>>556119009I think she's fine for now for not making the patch delayed by 3 months, give it a week for them to iron out any interaction bugs and some minor buffs + troon tourists leave she will be another hitler server admin character
....
Playing streetbrawl and I've at this point lost four rounds in a row where the average match time is at least five minutes minus one outlier being a miserable 17 fucking minutes.
>>556118565>get checked into the baroness>get black hole'd>get paradox swapped>get escaped from by any flyer.The werewolf form IS strong but its so easy to just get away from her or lock her down it feels like to me
>>556119215MAN THIS LOOKS SO AWFULI hate furries so much
>>556119215is this supposed to be max boons no items?
>>556119215What's this supposed to show?
Silver is actually hilariously bad in lane, actual rape fodder unless she has a dedicated support with her and then you can just focus the support instead and rape her later.
>>556117671Basically this >>556118976otherwise from a balancing standpoint she's fine. Her gun is pretty long range and has very tight spread. Damage falloff starts at 16m. You can comfortably build pure m1 with the first few items and rush the gun damage 4,8k investment. Keep your distance in human form and go in with wolf form. Get either blood tribute or unstoppable for team fights.she is the most boring of the bunch by a long shot tho.
Apollo bros...
>>556119296Maximum boons one tier 4 item on both sides>>556119315Silver attacks speed on the enemy with a jaggernaut. I think it's comically slow
So who's gonna be last, Apollo or Celeste?
>>556119461Venator
>>556119416>Silver is actually hilariously bad in laneI don't feel this either, she seems fine in lane. Not great but not badI've had a little trouble against her a few times, and I've won against a graves + paige with her
>>556118976>mock furries>Fun underpowered high skill ceiling character
How are you supposed to play Silver?
Give her a third stamina bar, give all her abilities and guns a little more damage, give her at least 10 more HP per levelThat's it, I fixed Silver
>>556119586shes a close range burst character except her burst relies on aimyou really feel when you miss a shot. probably the most punishing character for aimlets
I like Silver aesthetically and in concept. I dunno about her numbers.And Graves is unplayable dogshit now with her fun abilities absolutely gutted so Silver basically *has* to be the only worthwhile takeaway from this entire hero release even if it means she needs some buffs (aside from Venator I guess, hopefully he lives up to being the gunnest gun hero to ever gun).
>>556115810>super OP to the point she needs emergency nerfsvery weird btw. I've had Graves in everygame and she ends up either feeding or making no impact at all. E6 players like renon,aidan,dmb have said she sucks as well as long as you know what she does
>>556119696>Give her a third stamina barno shes a woman she gets 2
I know that modern sensibilities won't allow this but it would be cool to have safari hunter character.
>>556119417>she is the most boring of the bunch by a long shot thoGraves nigger hands typed this.
>>556119657bola, kick, mag dump to instantly transformthen rape with melee and high defense itemsif the enemy buys metal skin (counters her piss easy) then just buy curse and it'll remove it from them
>>556119634>high skill ceilingthe cope is unreal lmao
Going by leaks Apollo will have the best kit but because he's a white guy he will be voted last by the deadlock community together with venator
>>556119757after the changes to her skulls and how easy they are to get rid of it's a whole bunch of nothingand now they've killed her straight up
>>556119586If you deny her souls to keep her from unlocking her ult you more or less have free reign to be as agro as you want.I had a Billy/Bebop lane against a Silver/Paige and it was actually staggering how both of us could just consistently ignore the Silver and target the Paige then pick off the Silver afterwords. Same thing happen in a Mirage/Wraith vs Silver/Dynamo.
>>556119746>And Graves is unplayable dogshit nowIt's worth playing her even just for her second ability.
>>556119781GORILLA
>>556119728Bola can make them a sitting duck for her fan the hammer move though, since it disables stamina usageI think it might unironically be worth testing an early mystic slow on her to help her lane
>>556116916#Filtered
>>556119921>Silver/PaigeJesus that would be a painful lane, 2 terrible guns for soul securing
>>556119781heres how to twist it, hes a little demon guy and his game is those silly human animals
>>556119943her fucking wall?what are you talking about nigga
>>556119967>early mystic slowIt has diminishing returns so the difference is almost unnoticed.
>>556119967slowing bullets is betterPSA also due to the gun's natural low RoF, if you're standing on a slope (example right before guardian) and tap crouch to slide between each shot you effectively can get infinite ammo. Very good for poking under guardian or just killing the guardian
i think they got scared shitless from having to nerf half the heros from the previous batch every 2 hours for a week straight. so they intentionally overcompensated and made the new heros bad on release and instead buff them to a decent state.or im coping and Silver will be a 30% winrate meme tier forever.
>>556119843>white guy>look inside>red
nerfing deadheads was understandablebut nerfing the ghouls? fucking retarded.
>>556120158graves and Rem are still broken and they literally just buffed Rem in the micropatch
soooo is Silver actually just Holidays (or vyper?) va or not? or nobody knows for sure.
>>556120158what kind of cope is this when Graves had a 80% winrate in every rank under Archon?
>>556120078You really underestimate immobilization.
>>556120095>It has diminishing returns0.55 (bola with 1pt upgrade) * 0.7 (mystic slow) = 0.385It still takes it from a 45% slow to a 61.5% slow, that's not negligible. Still, maybe you're right. I dunno, just spitballing here.Anyway I think she's not that bad. Like I said here >>556118945 she feels like she can really pop off with a bit of support to enable her, because she has some strong raw numbers.
>>556112891Low enough sens can be a detriment regardless of preference especially for faster games with lots of bursty movement. There's a reason even CS players don't really go that low.
so does rem just suck or what I see ivy supports doing double their healing consistently and that's supposed to be 'his thing'
>>556120160He's a demon but he was obviously a white guy without the demonic thing
>>556120309I didn't think too much about the numbers and just went into the game and checked. The difference is pretty negligible.
>>556120317>and that's supposed to be 'his thing'Nigga what, he's not a healslut like Yuumi or some shit. He has one emergency heal and that's itHis 'thing', if he has one, is having a wide variety of miscellaneous support options available to him
>>556120317Rem's thing is buffing lane minions to an absurd degree to push lanes out for free, taking sinners all over the map with 0 effort, being able to heal and support while being untargetable, and having a huge fuckoff CC ult that silences while charging it and goes through walls hitlerite character
does doorman have new voice lines for hitting the new characters with his ult?
>>556120317Hes only effective when duoing with a tank honestlyhave a friend who mains victor/abrams/mo?/shiv/mcginnis and hes pretty godlike when you work together.But yeah he's honestly a macro character.
>>556120317Rem isn't a heal focused support he's more disruptive and being a nuisance. Stealing sinners, buffing waves, doing some healing in fights while being untargetable and popping out for a cheeky pillow. Ult is very strong. Enhanced items means you should stack whatever counter items you can: disarming hex, knockdown, slowing hex etc.
>>556120317his thing is auto pushing out all your lanes
>>556120368>The difference is pretty negligible.It probably would be, but I feel like I'd still need it to hit them because I'm a complete aimlet lolThis was the game I laned with her in. It doesn't show damage taken stat, but she soaked up 12k damage from Billy which I think is pretty notable because it means he wasn't spending as much time hitting/chasing/harassing our Bebop or Seven. And she also did a fair chunk of damage in her own right while doing it.I predict she'll probably get some token buffs and then get forgotten about by the wide public, but remain a solid option for onetrick autists and people who can expect to have some support. She seems okay.
>>556120317he steals your soulshe autopushes your laneshe pops items for freehe slaps you with an acme 10 tonne pillowhe sleeps your whole team on low as fuck cdhe DOES NOT healslut
>landing shotsAWOOOOOOOOOOOO>missing shotsfuck this self insert furry OC garbage doesn't even work properly shit character
which troopers do you give helpers to?
>>556120740The medic one so they can't get it as easily
SILVER IS OP WHAT THE FUCK
>>556120192Yeah I uninstalled. Any fun hero cant be good ever, only haze can be overpowered
it is funny how clear it is that they only had Holliday, Seven, Haze and Infernus VAs (and the new ones) in the office. literally only ones getting interactions.like could they really not catch anyone else in half a year? or they really try to batch them up and we'll get interactions for all on the NEXT hero update.
>try a both match to test my build>forgot that hard moba bots don't actually play the game like hard rts botswell fuck
>>556120792Is she finally balanced?
>>556102484Maybe Shiv is from a clan of fucked up evil werewolves (that might be related to Silver somehow), that got destroyed by the Baxter society - would explain why Silver says 'they deserve worse' and she is not referring to the Baxter society I think.Honestly Shiv's focus on style and accoutrements of 'civilization' (he also apparently has a motorcycle based on some voice lines iirc) would make sense in the context of him trying to deny the werewolf past. Instead of big hairy unkempt killer he's stylish and has a pompadour. Anything to give my monke man some more depth please.
Great everyone you cried so hard and now they made Graves 1 ability completely useless. Guess ill just get an Ult build and spam that then.
Graves 1 wasn't even that bad, nor her ult. They should've opted for nerfing her 2 if anything, fucking hate that spell
>>556120907Go gun build insteadWith Ricochet and 5pt passive she's pretty funny in teamfights
>>556120887man i wonder how long will it be until we get a shiv remodel, seems to be the least talked about remodel. he is cool as hell but his 20 polygon Neon Prime model is bad.
shiv just looks like scout with a wig
>>556120952retards didn't want to engage with the counterplay so it got nerfedliterally just punch the skulls. shoot the skulls for your team mate
>q on a goth necromancer that summons stuff>ignore summoning stuff>build movement and gunvery funny yoshi, very funny
>>556119215gun needs to hit way harder if they want it to keep this fire rate
>>556120952Thats the one ability that shouldnt be touched. She has zero mobility, zero range, thats the only thing allowing her to control movement somewhat
>>556111106Obviously we are going to get more pelagic representation at some point.
>>556120952>>556121115lmao cry about it
>>556121146lmao kys retard
Are there really Grave's apologists in this thread? Most cancerous hero kit they've ever released.
>>556120887>Shiv also literally builds up rage but keeps himself contained and controlled with the red trinket thing.>his wooden arm is actually his former half wolf arm (kinda like what Silver has going on)add a tiny bit of visual indication when he has full rage and this is golden lore
>graves downplayers crashing outLMAO
>>556120971My ult build includes ricochet Is there any other gun item thats a must have on her? I only get Rico, Heroic and Recharging Rush
mmm...samefagging mmm
>shiv necklace is just a 1:1 copycat of narutos necklacegrim
>bro just melee 4 times to get rid of her skulls in the middle of getting ass raped while opening yourself up to being parried, they're not that bad>umm yes she needs a lane wide line that stuns you for three seconds every time you touch it and has a hitbox that extends off the ground so a normal jump wont clear it>what was wrong with the tombstone that spawned a zombie that halves someone's health every 2 seconds and can't be cleared without heavy meleeing it?
>>556121278Escalating Resilience stacks almost instantly to give her the full 30% resist while also offering a slew of good stats. It's also pretty easy to proc Tesla, Toxic and Silencer on her if any of them are appropriate in a gameI feel like Bullet Lifesteal or maybe even Leech has to be nearly mandatory
>>556121378All me when im graves
Fuck it, I'm gonna play HD2 until they buff Silver and release the other characters. Playing now is just a waste of time.
>>556121378>line that stuns you>stunsYou just outed yourself as an initiate player
>>556121468There is no functional difference between being stunned and being rooted for 3 seconds.
>>556121410all me
all me
>>556121541When you're just rooted you can still press stone form and take no damage
>>556121541>can't walk = can't do anythingif you have a smooth brain
>sinclair bansI'm done with this fucking game man
Thank fuck all of the shitters are getting mega-filtered off Silver. If you have half a brain cell and can execute a basic combo she's a team wiper.
Idea: a hero that has an amped up version of return fire as an ability and wants to throw themselves into enemy nukes, maybe has some magnetism ability to attract enemy bullets/abilities like Mars's shield or Spirit Breakers shard
>>556121541You can still shoot and parryUse non-movement abilitiesUse items like Dispel Magic which you can't use while stunnedThey're vastly different
>5 minutes since last postIt's over for deadlock...
How active is this game in OCE? I've had this shit sitting in my library for ages and I'm finally thinking of trying it
>>556121821>activate your ability>get cc'd>ability ends>get rapedwow
>>556121726kek are you ascendent or eternus? I can see them banning that guy for sure. It's especially cancer how hero bans work because you cant see what the enemy team bans first. Banning sinclair protects dynamo players for example.
>>556111173>get MVP with Silver the one and only time I get to play her>other players are getting MVP with Silver>Silver is badHuh? My experience has been pretty good so far so Im missing something here.
Why the fuck did Graves' worst skill get nerfed? Surely Icefrog has learned how to balance after fucking 15 years of this bullshit.
>>556122212there is one faggot that keeps complaining about the entire population of OCE being smurfing pedophile stacks and stalking them on steammake of that what you will
>>556122197>Highguard killed the Deadlock momentum
>>556122212It's fairly active, faster queues than dota for me. I'm middle of the line at oracle rank and queue times have generally been 1min - 6min for me the last few months.
>>556122212Don't bother game fucking sucks and matchmaking in that region is probably hell. If you do try it, do the street brawl then it doesnt really matter
I think Pocket might actually be D.B Cooper.Explains everything
>>556122368do we even have airplanes in this setting?
>>556122212well this guy >>556121410 is OCE and certainly active
>I pick rem>I get the dumbest niggers imaginable for team mates>I lose game>0-7this isn't even funny. I'm 7-2-13 in my last game as rem and in turn my drifters going 4-13 and my haze is so fucking retarded they keep popping ult every time I sleep 4 people on midboss so they wake up INSTANTLY and get to contest mid again.
They great at shuffleboard!
>>556122218woah it's like every other ability in the game that doesn't offer cc immunity...
>>556122286Worst? It's a cancel or die if you get your skulls on someone casting a channelling ult.
Haven't been able to mess around with her yet, do her abilities trigger stuff like spirit snatch/ lifestrike?
Deadlock is starting to look more and more like Valorant if I gotta be completely unironically literally honest
>>556122879Here werewolf attacks don’t count as melee attacks
Whatever happened to the Chinese deadlock ripoff. Is it still getting updated
>>556123173>her abilities>>556122879yes
>>556122579your teammate can just walk up and light melee for you without committing much. The real issue is she can't get charges for it consistently without getting echo shard, so its a essentially a dead skill in lane and between team fights.
>>556114898My name is Jeffrey Epstein and I approve
>>556122286they dont even know how to make the bases siegable let alone balance specific heroeshe is out of his element with the 3d balancing
>>556122305I've been gone a couple days and I'm still in your headAlso I just went against the same 4stack for the third time in a dayIt's not NORMAL to have that happen
>>556123339I thought you were dead
>>556123173I'm new to the game and still far from familiar with all the possible itemization, what's the reason for this? Is it actually beneficial to her builds this way, or...
is there still hero based mmr? im alchemist on my most played but i played my first game of mina and was placed in an initiate game
>if you steal silver's ult as Sinclair, you can just press 4 to activate them at will without the need to charge it
>>556123448They'd be parryable if her left-click during werewolf was melee coded.
>>556123339this one's for you jeff!>>556123516okay but if that was the solitary reason literally all they'd ave to do is assign a tag to it that says "not parryable", right?
>>556123448she still has melee while transformed. they're not the same>beneficialit'd be obscenely retarded if she could proc crushing fists in .2 seconds with her gun
>get the urge to play deadlock>uninstalled to remind myself every game is shit>avoided the crayon eating drooling monkeysthank you past me
>>556123616Left click only does Weapon damage, weapons have their own stats and scaling and therefore cannot proc melee damage unless there's a weird item released later onEven then, a parry only stuns actual melee animations and simply negates melee damage part from abilities or any other source of "Melee Damage"
>>556123616It’s probably easier for them to make the attacks deal melee damage rather than code a non-parryable melee attack (which I don’t think even exists currently)
>>556121305XD what if he swallowed a female character and said >Oooh my tummy got so big now :D
since genderswap arcanas are the biggest selling items in dota2, we can expect every male character, and every ugly female character to get genderswap microtransactions**level 500 battlepass exclusive for 3 years
>>556121726Most of the bans i see are Lash and Bebop
>When the bum ass nigga with 800 hours is playing like shit again
where are you guys seeing graves nerfs? there aren't any patchnotes that i can find.
>>556124093https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean
>me ooka, team dooka
>>556123347You're totally right, actually. Bases fall in seconds without glyph type mechanic. Towers pretty much tickle in this game, I don't think I've seen anyone get killed or repelled by one. No buyback either, but maybe that's for the better.
*gives anyone on your team 50% spirit resist when stacked with scourge*THANK YOU!!!
>>556124116nevermind, found it.yoshi just replies to last week's patch notes instead of making a new thread for some reason.fucked up if you ask me.
would cats smoke if they had thumbs
>>556124116Click on the link in the OP and keep scrolling down
>>556124202*yoshi buffs you for some reason*
>Silver finally gets released>match quality drops lower than it EVER fucking has before with ENTIRE TEAMS (unironically all 5 of the other people on my team, not just 2-4) of people going 1-15, including the person who got to play SilverThis is why you need to alienate foids, Redditors and troons at all costs in comp games. This shit's unironically-- with zero hyperbole-- utterly fucking unplayable at all now. I'm going back to Endfield.
>>556124281>yoshihis name is Abdul
>>556124210Yeah like may as well put them in one single thread at that point
>>556124291>redditbob poster saying this shit
>>556124291>comp>deadlock>beta
>>556124291>Goonbrained gachafag talkingkril yourself
>>556124291wait until ALL the heroes are out and it's doing the biggest twitch numbers everwait until it goes OPEN BETAyour secret club's lifespan is dwindling
>5% max hp damage to 5% current hpFUCKthe zombies were great at securing kills while people were too busy fighting to pay attention to them>>556124291you don't get to criticise the game and say you're going back to something as dogshit as endfield
>>556124291it's too late I already see deadlock yuri being posted in other game discords I'm in, they're here to stay and make your matches terrible.
Need a spirit item that applies a dot without the threshold req of spirit burn. I want to whittle my enemies down and I can't hit Shiv knives at long range to save my life.
when do i not get matched up against people with hundreds or thousands of hours
>redditbobGo back.
>>556124291just get out of archon and it's alright
>>556124510When yoshi finally fixes the matchmaking for real this time
Yoshi should implement an avoid player feature asap
>>556124387You get to complain when the normgroids and trannies stop being worse at the game than me. At least I'm not the lobotomized retard going 0-15 in your games.>>556124406Unironically grim. Normies are a fucking blight upon everything.>>556124420Even gachaslop is better than this game now that all the Fortnite-tier normgroids have found it cause of faggot-ass Streamers.
>>556124510when the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, when the seas go dry and the mountains blows in the wind like leaves.
>>556122240ascendant I want to know why the fuck shiv is making it through bans
Holy shit the final upgrade resets on Wolf mode make it so fucking fun
>>556124040>*pushes it 100 times*
>>556124582Its not that serious man.
>>556124524big ah boots
>>556124641>Get Silver on team>Does 20k damage by the end of the game>Get silver on my team>Thanos that rapes everyone without metal skinFun fun fun
>>556124646It really is. Team games are unironically unplayable the moment normies get in the mix in any sort of large number.
Graves zombies can deal objective damage even if she's not in range yeah?
Why is 4chan playing a game designed by a muslim?
>>556124420I hate it, but I agree with the zombie nerf. They were doing too way too much damage even if you were dealing with them properly.
>>556124740Muslims make great things. Hookah for example
>>556124740he's a frog, actually
>>556124727Sorry I meant on the enemy team. I'm very tired
>>556124728I hate to break it to you but Deadlock hasn't been some sort of niche super special game for a long time. Streamer and fps apes and shit have been playing it for a while.
>>556124740100% was a neet
RemGODS how do we feel about the buffs? I don't think they were needed, but very welcome nonetheless.
Healbane needs an upgrade path for characters that can't reliably proc spirit burn. It sucks that the only high level spirit antiheal is gated by a cooldown and a 500 burst requirement.
>>556124740Inshallah he will buff Sinclair
Who is the best character and why it's Billy?
>>556124634what build do shivs do at that rank? I tried shiv after the new balance pass and holy shit knives feel so much better now that rapid recharge provides CDR. No longer does missing a single knife totally fuck you
>>556125012>t. Billy
>>556124959youre absolutely retarded
Oh silver 2 has Bebop's hook-punch gimmick, you kick them back where you're looking so if you 180 while using it you can fling them back into your team.
>>556125194god damn it that's stupid
>>556125012>>556125046I downloaded the Billy Hotline Miami music mod and I was testing settings as different characters and discovered it still worked even though I didn't launch with mod manager (thought mods were only live if you did)the only problem is it's got a selection of 5 random HM songs but like 2 or 3 of them are way too lowkey, they don't get me hyped to bash people at all
Am i crazy or does silver not seem to need fleet foot? Im in practice mode firing her gun while moving and there doesnt seem to be a firing penalty.
>people saying Silver is badI think Silver is on the strong side, not the end all be all but still pretty good. She starts off kinda meh but when you get the werewolf going things snowball fast, but getting caught in a enemy trap and locked in place REALLY fucking blows.https://streamable.com/7rlsmh
>>556124813Yeah but it's clearly getting worse. Untenable even.
>>556125102Gun has 3 different passive antiheal options with only 1 having a cooldown, and have max hp reduction, and ALL of them have more of an affect than healbane, and they can just proc healbane whenever too because of Tesla. Spirit should get some more options.
does your prio token get refunded if everyone abandons the match?
>>556125253No? It's a cool tech? Do you just wanna call everything silver does stupid?
if anyone has the problem of this overlay stuck on screen:press tab while having chat open
>>556125605dpi based skill check is not cool
>>556120990when he gets the remodel I don't think he'll actually change that much visually>>556121240we have endured countless shiv nerfs, it is only just we get something cool in return
>>556125605i don't mind the tech it just looks stupid as shit and is really unintuitive. how does she plant her boot on you in a way that causes you to turn around? bebop on the other hand i can buy he just swings the victim around.
Is there any better feeling in this game than Yamato power slash with spirit burn?
>>556125194She doesn't move them though...she moves herself..
>>556125823Spirit reverb exploding in the middle of the enemy team.
Do Silver's wolf mode attacks count as bullets
So basically, as someone who's shit at the game, it seems like if you can easily confirm the triple shot on your 1, you can guarantee her burst combo. The shit part is in theory her werewolf 2->1 is INSANE damage but good luck landing it. I feel like it's not anything major that needs to be buffed but either we need to build her to just lock people down diffusal for my Dota bros or her human form and werewolf form need to be buffed slightly. My experience with her has been jumping somebody, bursting them down, turning into a werewolf and killing them, and then having nothing to do but being a werewolf. That's really feels bad and I don't like it but I don't know what else to do about it. It's kind of the consequence of jumping people alone, but it wasn't very fun.
>>556126045knowing valve, they're bullets with a very limited range
>>556126062What do you mean the werewolf 2-1 is hard to hit how the fuck do you miss her werewolf skills??
>>556126045yeah. mystic shot procs on a wolf left click for example. and like graves' mystic shot, it only triggers mystic shot's cooldown if it hits someone
>>556121426thanks doc ill try it out, 30% more ammo is also sweet, her reload animation seems long
Unironically the reason Silver feels OP in her wolf form is because of the gigantic fucking VFX from her autos that completely fill your screen and make her harder to seeI dunno if thats intended or not but if they toned down her auto VFX it would be far less oppressive
>>556126045yes
>>556126164nta but>So basically, as someone who's shit at the gameshould explain everything
>>556126164I cannot put into words how shit my aim is. I have trouble getting into the fucking werewolf form.Need another hero like Graves where aim is a suggestion since my tracking is passable.
>you can put Graves' ult out of bounds>functions normallywtf
>>556121240>ult level three refreshes on kill>traditional style shotgun users>dash on 2 (a bit of a generic connection ill admit)i really hope this is intentionally cooking with all of these parallels.
>if Sinclair copies Silver, all his wolf abilities are level 1 no matter whatwhy.....>>556126253hit an aim trainer for a few minutes a day and you'll see results
okay the werewolf ult is fucking sick it really does feel like warwick
>the new characters: lolipugna, shotaconbait cat, dogpilled woman. demon twink, transcoded unicorn and average white guyOne of these is not like the others
I THINK WYOMING SUCKS!
here you go bro here's your 2-14 'tank' players who think they can take on the world level 1 with no items and never give up thinking that way even when they're 20k behind the guy they're fighting.>GET PARRIED GET PARRIED GET PARRIED GET PARRIED
>>556126570the people who thought jeet brool would fix this were delusional.
>>556126474dogpilled woman actually doesn't fuck dogsshocking
>>556126570maybe they're gonna actually make a tutorial that isn't so abysmally dogshit and unfinished...............................NAH
how long until they polish silver, currently she is using seven animations for her base and old drifter animations for her werewolf form
How the fuck do I cope with "gg ez" when I lose?
>>556126570I had a game where the enemy didn't get a single kill. I'm staying on Brool until everything settle down cause I don't want to be on the receiving end of that.
>>556126474>average white guyAmerican larpers will never not be funny>>556126745She uses pockets reload animation as well doesn't she?
>>556126695tutorial still has 4 lane footage, even an intern could fix thatyoshi doesn't give a shit>>556126754you don't lose
>>556126695it's COMPLETELY inexcusable that these players exist in high ascendant games. why are they here? they're not new players. they're just fucking dog shit. why pool a ritualist retard into my game who winds up swapping out of the low MMR lane into the high MMR one because he thinks he's 'countering their lane' and then he goes 2-14 because he's a fucking retard who heavy melees off cooldown.
unironically seems like they intended for drifter to be more like silver, the all fours run was an old drifter animation, they switched up at some point and made him have a weird hand gun (mistake) he should have short range slashes like silver and i'd kill for this to be implemented and replace his current gun
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>>556126745how long did it take to polish drifter after release i dont remember? he also was undercooked on release.
>>556126754type 'gg close'
>>556126917-2
>>55612682627m stats
>>556126923like 2 weeks till his model was unshittified, then like maybe 1-2 months for his current base animations (he used to have that horrible stiff run and shoot animation), and just this patch they added a few new animations and the bloodscent passive stack effects + unique ult voice lines
>>55612691722
>>556126952silencer get ye gone
>>556126959He died every other minute? Why did none of you tell him to chill
>>556123173but the wolf autos do count as bullets for ricochet fun
>>556126959https://steamcommunity.com/id/Makaroff7>1500 hours in deadlock>trannywhat did she mean by this
>>556126917>>5561270500...
>>556127078we did. he no fucking joke said 'blyat' and then kept going.
>>556127137what? they are literally a ruski nigga, griffith pfp does not = trans
>>556127281>queer coded character != transoh, my sweet summer child
so like what the fuck is silver's deal. She seem very boring and kinda weak or am I missing something? Furfag version of drifter or some shit
>>556127281Gonna look like Celeste in a few years
>>556124093>he treats gaming as a job and not just vibing
Gaves nose
My 10 streak came to an end bros...
>>556127324griffith is a sigma male character who rapes the protagonist's girlfriend so hard and so good she gets permanently mindbroken (she kisses him with tongue during the rape and he cums inside), not a queer coded character
just make Silver's transformed 1 a projectile if you're going to make it this damn narrow >>556127376I think she's fine if you have good aim to get ult every fight, but she's so awful at farming that maybe it doesn't matter
>>556127451Face blindness hitting Jewish communities harder than dyslexia.
Graves is this patch Victor (she will get nerfed into oblivion because people in seeker can't deal with her)
>>556127475yoshit is sending his best agents to rape your next 8 games
>>556127451this is fine, and even erotic, it just looks bad in her gloating iconit's hot like Annie Leonhardt's nosewould ejaculate on
>>556127451What about a nose you fucking faggot? White people have noses? Yeah dumb fucking retard noses exist, nose this nose that shut the fuck up. Jeez
>buy curse>victor dies in 3 seconds>buy curse>graves dies in 3 secondscrazy... I wonder if this knowledge will catch on
>>556127451It would actually be an improvement if she had a Jersey jewess accent.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZdGIvfBOJI
>>556127632the knowledge that curse wasn't nerfed enough?yeah I think everyone knows
>>556127324nigga griffith may have some femme aesthetics but he is quite literally a global demonic conqueror who rapes his rivals girlfriend in front of him in hell
>>556127451
>>556127447People like you are so disgusting, grossDon't interact with me you stagnant blob
>>556127451I want to marry into rich...
>>556127451i love her schnozzer
is seven a poltergeist
god her voice lines are so fucking boring, she only has one tone and never deviate from it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f5htkpWzG0
>>556128338skeleton lich
how do i see my match history with items
>>556127451nose on the sketch is bigger than on the model and the bottom is flather actual nose looks more like a beak
>>556128349yep her VA is a huge misswerewolf form has different set of voicelines, and they all still have the same tone of voice.
>>556128349it's a placeholder VA just like her model and animations, making Holliday voice every southern girl would be a mistake
>>556128349I think she's just a bit TOO stoic, for someone who has all these vulnerabilities she sounds way too naturally confident
>>556128702her model is great
Just had this fun ass game. I was unkillable.
>>556128973Can you be on my team
>>556128702non of the new characters are placeholders
First try silver build>kdashSeems too good to pass up for the ammo>mystic shotI think she's a spacing sort of character where you want to play passive in human and farm up your ult. This is for poke and I choose it over headshotbooster because it has no fall off, so I can play safer >int magProbably my least confident pick, she does have the slowest firerate so it theoretically is better on her than anyone. Plus it affects melee>reactive barrierIm kind of assuming the enemy is gonna respect the ult and attempt to cc me after it ends>warpstoneAlso mainly for end of ult, to make space >duration Imbued to ult>spirit snatchHave 3 different ways to proc, generally overstated Thats my 4.8k spikes, for late game items>spellslinger8 spells seems pretty good for it>shadowweaveProbably not gonna be bursty enough for this but all stats are good, optional if steamrolling>frenzyShe has bonuses when low in ult but I do worry that people will just try to ignore you so you might need straight dmg>divine kevLeaning into the ult, duration+ >collosusPopped while ulting seems good if you need to lock people down>boundless Her scaling actually very good, I think people underate flat spirit rn
>>556128710she's too stoic for someone who gets taunted with "fatherless behaviour"
>Silver is so undertuned that she's filtering out retards and letting me play her consistently in Brawl without a tokenSilver-linings.
>>556129057>placeholder VAhere i simplified for you
silver is pretty cool but people act like her 2 is the hardest and coolest and skillest ability to ever existit's a simple fucking hop dude
>>556126045yeah they proc tesla for example
>>556129069Awful.
SAVE US APO AND VEN FROM THIS BEAST AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Has Doorman got any new Baroness interactions with the new characters yet
>Silver's ult tranformation can be cancelled with silenceWho thought this was a good idea?>make her immune and stationary during tranformation like Warden>compensate with speed-boost that lasts like 5 seconds to give that chase vibe tooProbably would work better.
>>556114898why is mina so fucking thick shes asian + young
>>556129318Unstoppable is a core item for her.
>pick mina>get an erectionHow do you counter this?
what the fuck happened to the valve writing department? how did we go from PEAK like seven/infernus/vyper to this SHIT?graves is boringrem is boringsilver is boring
>>556129069>already think this is bait>boundless Nigga…
>>556129318>new item>silver bullets>+X% gun damage>each hit cancels out X% of a channeled ability durationhappy?
>>556129069You want stamina mastery not k dash. Her 1+ low rate of fire makes it not worth imo. You want the movement to save your squishy human self and to keep close as the werewolf>int magNo. Close Quarters into Point Blank.>rebarrierOkay. Barriers for human form are good due to low hp.>warpstoneYeah, pretty good.>durationAlright if you're not maxing it and confirming kills.>spirit snatchI find lifestrike is more important. If you want a purple, torment pulse.>spellslinger, shadow weaveBerserker, hollow point.>divine kev, colossusYeah.>boundlessFuck no. Grab some lifesteal. Infuser, leech, vamp burst, maybe even siphon bullets.
>just got muted for having an offensive usernameI thought Valve had free speech in their games?
>>556127547Not so, it would appear! The power of my beloved wifevy is simply too strong
>>556129069>>556129547I'll add on that I think you're okay not hitting 4.8k on spirit with her. She genuinely has so few spirit procs and they're so low it doesn't matter.
>>556128349Cute
>>556129451>picquite literally merecently learned about the extra souls thing on cultist
>>556129663>didnt post the nameyeah you deserved it then
>>556129074HOTTIE
>>556129692>fed drifter won the gamegay faggot healslut build, you're irrelevant
Already lost 80% of its players, lmao!
why did they make vindicta's feet dirty, can they revert that please, it's gross
what's the average ranking the playerbase is at right now
ban all steam chart posters
>>556129857She's walking around new york barefoot
>>556129865Ritualist
>go 7-1 out of lane>entire enemy team hyperfocuses me and it becomes super clear that this was actually a 1v6
>>556129829oh damn, how could this happen to usevery 12 hours we lose 80% of our playershow could this bewhat could possibly cause this
>>556129795Sorry anon but I don't listen to people who've never heard of sustain before.
>>556129883they are like black nigga this is just fetish material, she clearly bathes and can fly so why is it literally just her feet that are dirty? get this shit out of my game
silver feels really weak, her gun does 0 damage and takes a year between each shot even with fire rate itemsshe also has no spirit scaling and her movement is mediocre-bad and she's susceptible to CC to a comical degreeam i missing something or she's just shit? maybe i built her wrong?
>>556127918>>556127620>anons assuming I'm saying her nose is bad.Stop projecting your own racism.
>>556129829WTFFFF!!!why does no one like kinolock... and what can we do about it?
>>556130101>why does no one like kinolock... terminal shit taste>and what can we do about it?post more wifwolf
>>556130062She is s tier
Any hot messes ITT?
>>556129956I blame Rem
silver is going to be exclusively played by mtf puppygirls BTW
>"we needed a new character, so we just copied vyper's lore and a random kemono second life avatar and slapped it onto a work-in-progress kit we had on hand"bravo valve>>556128702i SINCERELY FUCKING HOPE SO. so far every new character's voiceover has been a miss, but her's is just fucking atrocious. it is below the worst offenders from league, even.
what are these graves nerfsthey're nerfing the skulls?
Silver is just Shiv but way worse
>>556130276>kemonoi fucking wish
>>556130217how exactly? her damage is low and she's probably the worst macro character in the entire game because she can't push, farm nor roam for shit
>>556130170wifwolf is the epitome of shit taste (or at the very least shit execution), bud
>>556130043I’m assuming theyre black to reference her being burned at the stake.
>>556129547K dash is for the ammo, the firerate is just a bonusI know her firerate is low but its not a burst fire, 30% is still 30%. Its still gonna math out to higher dps than weapon dmg(disregarding the melee). I digress tho, as previously stated its more about the ammoI think you are underrating int mag, it was already seeing play, just got buffed, and its naturally better on lower firerate heros+ affects her ult meleeI also think you are underrating spirit snatch, that shit is bustedAs far as the boundless/dont go for spirit 4.8k, im 100% not convinced its bad. The scaling is good on multiple skills, most heros only have 1 over 1x. She will be hybrid for sure
>>556130432what about the rest of her body?
>>556130383if that were true then why is she so heckin cute and retarded
is haze a mom?
>>556129932should I be proud that I'm oracle IV or is that just slightly above average
>Silver hype already deadLmao. Thankfully Venator will save the game next week.
>>556130574I call her mommy
>>556130496Burn from the bottom up.
>>556130331and completely different
>>556130538she's retarded alright, but her human face looks like an overwatch reject.completely unfitting with the rest of the character
>>556130801She'll get a new model eventually, what's unfitting about it to you though?
Is anyone herr actually playing with a contoller yet? Like hardcore, no mouse or keyboard
>>556130496that's where the ashes gathered in her ectoplasm
>>556130723hmm.. does she still whistle a ton?
i hate that i can't control her transformation
>>556130839Probably some "unattractive women bad" thing I’m guessing.
>>556130771Not really. It's literally the same shit with filling up the rage bar and rushing at the enemy.
>>556130923She's attractive tho
>>556130839it's that retard that wants her to have a beard
>>556124740I can be immensely racist and still enjoy all the fruits of the world. Low testosterone males will never understand.
>>556130908Yeah.>>556130947Yeah sorry no idea why it autocorrected to unattractive.
voting is boring now because its almost 100% gonna be venator next, i guess it will be a tossup between celeste and apollo though
>>556131004i guess i dont mind then, as long as i get to do shitty whistles
>>556131010i think celeste has a good chance of cucking venator desu
>>556129069>no express shot
>>556131010Just like it was 100% gonna be Graves first and it was 100% gonna be Silver first?Whatever buddy
>>556131010imagine if there was a shadow army of ponyfags voting celeste from the start
>>556131147Nah, Venator voters have built up way too much, even if everyone switches to Celeste she has so much catching up to do
>>556131187pretty much everyone everywhere said it was going to be rem first, the only real surprise was silver getting 3rd. now everything will proceed as usual
voting should be a series of random 1v1s to keep it interesting. this group voting is super predictable.
>>556131386>walk up to your lane opponent>smack them with your poster>arena cage drops down>"TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES">no ccs or aoe work from outside>winning the duel grants a vote to your candidate
>>556131187Explain your D reasonings, because I think all 3 should at least be B
Silvers parry is her showing her ass?
>>556131871it's seven's parryI don't know why he's doing it with his ass either
>>556131871It would stop me from swinging
>>556130932wow they have one mechanic that functions somewhat similarlyyou may as well say they both have shotguns and you'd still be wrong there too
This game has a parry?
>>556130886the only thing you are is a hardcore retard
>>556130839she's meant to be a ruined alcoholic barely making ends meet. she should be worn down and/or hag-ish, instead she looks like a barbie doll with wolf ears and a hairy left hand
>>556131440>kelvin in Dyou fail
>>556132178ugh they just had to remove kino features
>1930's new york>zoomer girl character with a wolf cut
i have no idea what to do with silver in her human form. her gun seems hard to aim and doesnt do much damage outside of 1. her wolf form feels really strong though
>>556131147I hope Celeste is lastShe seems fucking lame, and the people who like her on twitter piss me off.
>>556131228maybe if she was a horse
If I knew Apollos general kit I might vote for him but we only know he has a parry. I know I will at least find Celeste's playable, even if I don't love it the same way I do Graves and Silvers.
NO LITTLE BIRD CREATURE DON'T GO ON THE PLANE WITH THE OSIC!!!
>>556131917it's where his electricity panel is.
>>556132308Its AU. Ixian hair stylists man.
>trust me bro the matchmaking is only shit on the weekends
>werewolf>stance switcher>skill shot>melee synergiesthis bitch was made for me
Skill priorities on Silver? Max ult first, then 1, then 3 then 2?
>>556132445apparently he can almost noclip his way across the battlefield>>556132340her human form's function is to farm up the wolf form. oh, and to disable people with the bola. thats pretty much it
How does lightning scroll work on her ult?
idk guys it's been 20 mins and vindicta hasnt whistled once..
>>556132614Same>>556132893In no way
>>556132893doesn't do anything
>>556131157Its bait, express shot is only for coping on burst fires
Haze gives Rem nursing handjobs.
I am actually a bit happy over how silver is a little bit basic of a character, she feels more like abrams or miku, which surprised me because I thought they entirely forgot how to make characters like that with victors and paiges. You can get creative with her because you're not locked into only one playstyle. I hope Apollo will be like that too. Now if only the matchmaking worked and the game didn't run like shit
>>556124893Been winning every single game with top healing and positive K/D with 60%+ kill participation, so feels pretty good, fellow RemGAWD.>Tossing a helper and Scourge onto a tanky frontliner teammate and watching them sprint in to rape with a Heroic Aura active that hit 6 people
>>556133230I'm surprised more didn't immediately flock to Scourge. Rem's 2 likes items with big numbers, an additional 2 seconds and 2m radius on Scourge is crazy.
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>>556133220how is paige not more basic than mcginnis and most base heroes? she literally just has 3 aoes and a shield, does nothing else
>>556131157If you want to do the poke thing I think its better to stack mystic + headhunter
>>556133113true
>>556132674kek
>>556127451Left Jewish beakRight Greek noseKnow the difference, it could save your life.
>>556132178His costume is dumb. He should be wearing a fisherman's sweater instead.
>>556110842
all my losses are just one or two niggers going 0-14 and then we lose because their hypercarry is 20k up because of it. that's literally all my losses. no agency. just an assured fucking loss. they need to fix matchmaking.
>>556111106>>556111379I just want Slork's name to remain "Slork" instead of "Fathom", and for him to retain the Italian American mobster accent.
Rem's burst healing and little helpers deserve a nerf. This stupid piece of shit instead got a buff on probably the strongest ult in the game right now
>>556127036>unique ult voice linesI unironically miss his single "DEH HUUNT BEGINNSSSS" voiceline.I'd mod them all to be only that again if I knew how to mod Source2, but alas I only know Goldsrc and Source.
>>556132308We don't know when it takes place. Deadlock references shit from 00s.
>>556130062Her human form is dogshit.If you're not going wolfmania, you are not a character in the match.
Recommend me a trans-friendly hero to play.
>>556130004>uglycoal ivyget THAT SHIT out of my SIGHT
