Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!/sthg/ #9040 - Maria Fart GIF Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offshttps://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - 04 March 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 11 March 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 08 April 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>556367598
They fuck after fighting
Big Booty Bitches
>BBBBBRRRRRAAAAAaaaAAAAAPPPPPprprrpPRPRRRppp..fffff...............prprp......
>>556399623Hey, if you accept the job, you get what you can negotiate. Not like ABT charges much in general. Not a lot of demand for furry shit.
>>556399883They'll never be gay.
rip freedom planetyou died so vtubershit could live
>>556399971
How come we don't have fanart of this milf yet?
>>556400042Who pays 300 dollars for a png?
>>556400142I miss fujoanon
>>556400141>>556400142https://youtu.be/NgtXHTtdUu4?si=sQihTcsWgiwg7W15&t=17
>2 stars / 5
>>556400042I don't do commissions so I don't know if $175 is good value for someone high profile like ABT
>>556399876this but rouge and knuckles in sonic X
>>556400042$175 for a B&W comm is insane. Bro needs to get a real job.
>>556400113
>>556400176People who don't want to pay 500 more dollars for RAM
>>556400128I think its more "Holy shit, this Freedom Planet thing is a total disaster. Better change my fetish to digital prostitution."Man did the 2nd game ruin the lore and characterizations of the 1st game. How the hell do you have an "energy crisis" when you have retarded philippines going "Ya we use da solar panels to power everything". So much retarded nonsense.
>>556400420lol
>>556400142her art is so good...
>>556400153That's how low of an impact Lunar and Lunar's family left on people
>No furry outside of /b/Nigger this is a fucking furry franchise are you serious?
>>556400481Qrd?
Post our KING Scourge
I think I caught a fish!
>>556400042>250 burger bucks for a single sketch image with no background, just flat colors.This dude desperately needs to get a fucking job, holy shit what are these prices?
Everyone draw SagePlease?
Sally is an inventor and Rotor is useless
>>556400684I prefer this king.
>>556400748kek
Weak bait[-]
>>556400295>>556400337You charge whatever people will pay for. A sketch from Larry Hama (writer of G.I. Joe) will run you $100 at a convention.
https://files.catbox.moe/io9jr8.png
>>556399971https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM5JbOiPvtA
>>556400968>You charge whatever people will pay for. no shit>A sketch from Larry Hama (writer of G.I. Joe) will run you $100 at a convention.ABT is a bad artist.
>>556400481the power of professional writers™fp1 and chrono gear dialogue is annoying as fuck but at least strife tried to keep things interesting as opposed to disney channel sitcom writing of fp2
>>556400042I can't help but be jealous of ABT.The guy lives off of porn addicted furries and Sonicfags and barely has to put in effort for anything. Imagine being able to make a month's worth of money in less than 2 days by just sketching out a few drawings and editing them in pirated version of photoshop.
>>556400128Freedom Planet 3 didn't get canned, did it?I kimda hated the second game's redesigns if I'm being honest.
>>556400968If ABT keeps drawing horny furries and action pieces, he'll eventually be able to charge ten times as much
Prices are also used as a filter in many cases.
>>556401207You're assuming that a lot of people are willing to pay for that.
>>556401239
>>556401412As someone who has tried to comm ABT multiple times in the past, he literally has a list of people he DMs when he wants/needs money and they comm him for shit. He isn't even the only artist in this fandom that does this. BigDon and Fakeryway (back when he drew Sonic) did this too.
WINTER OLYMPICS ARE IN A DAY IN MILANWHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOINGTHEY FUMBLED THAT F1 SPONSORSHIP AND NOW THEY'RE FUMBLING THE OLYMPICS
>>556400128>creator trons out>steals the money from the budget to buy HRT to the point the main artist had to work for free for 6 years>wvwryone who worked on the game an away because the creator was completely and utterly insufferableHonestly it is a miracle the game came out on a playable state at all (gameplay and music wise is alright, lore, story and characters are still a disaster)HRT KILLED Freedom Planet, rip in piss best dog
>>556401714I'm just going to start ritual posting "SoA is over a year behind schedule." in this place because you people seem to constantly forget how incompetent these people are.
>>556401678>As someone who has tried to comm ABT multiple times in the pastThat's sad bruh
Surge watches Sonic's cum dribble down her breast and wonders how things got here
>>556401714they forgorBut also the Winter Olympics are a bit weird. They've already started but the opening ceremony isn't until tomorrow.
>>556401861>to the point the main artist had to work for free for 6 yearsWhyd he let that happen?
>>556401890Hot, elaborate on that
Espio gets all the bitches (despite being gay)
>>556402053>despitewomen love fags
As someone who has comm'd ABT, he's never DM'd me for another piece.
Here me out...
close...
>>556402129Sonic again.
>>556401947It is a mystery, the world may never know
>>556402109same
>>556401678Fakeryway still does that to this day.It's basically impossible to actually comm him for anything because he just asks his own fanbase to give him free fucking money whenever he needs it. I'm not even joking the guy's fans literally pay him to do nothing which is why his art quality has been dropping off a cliff for the past year. The guy literally cannot draw furrys anymore, he just draws a generic BBW and gives it a tail. It's sad.
>>556401907summer olympics also have that lag
>>556402109Did you comm that? He probably doesn't want to put effort again into something similar.
>>556402198buy some glasses
I hate them so much.
>>556400660Okay, in the first game, they're doing the "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" bit except they are warring over the Kingdom Stone. Said stone is just the Master Emerald and whoever has it will use it to power their city/Kingdom. It's the main source of power/energy/electricity/etc for EVERYONE. But some dude from Space wants to steal it and use it for evil space conquest hence why they must all come together to stop him.Simple right?In the second game, they introduce a FOURTH Kingdom that does NOT need the Kingdom Stone. Why? They have Solar Panels and other fictional Green technologies that power everything. And its not like its some backwater place, they have a giant floating island, airships, and a whole lotta tech. So what the fuck was the point of the Kingdom Stone and why weren't the Three Kingdoms using this tech? No fucking reason.It actually gets worse.There's a level called the "Lightning Tower" which itself could imply another energy source (game doesn't specify) which again begs the question of why the Three Kingdoms don't built their own Lightning Towers. They all have sci-fi level tech to do it.They shat all over the lore of the first game to push green energy bullshit thus destroying a good chunk of worldbuilding. FP1's story isn't good but somehow, FP2's story is even worse.
Super Sonic 3
>>556402360Sonic painted black.
>>556402326Oh yeah you right, for some of the track events I think, I forget.Nothing justifies SoA's incompetence, though.
I have a piece that I commed and the artist hasn't posted on his Xitter page for 2 months nowShould I share it here?
>>556401861>creator trons outI wish I could go into the video game world...
>>556402550you can share it anywhere dude
>>556400782eh
>>556402332Yes, I'm going to pry and ask what exactly you asked for and how you went about it, because it could just be you're asking for something he doesn't care for or you were being obnoxious/vague.>>556402550Generally ask them first but as it's your drawing you paid for they shouldn't be too mad.
>>556402302>Check his tag on blue furry site>Most of the first 3 pages is either edits or blatantly traced shit>He's still making comics of Krystal cucking Fox 5 years laterJesus fucking christ, what a fall from grace.
>>556402528or take your meds... your condition is alarming
>>556402467This also implies that if they gave the magic rock to Brevon he would have just fucked off, he wanted it to save the energy crisis in his home planet lol
>>556400820HHHNNNGGG
>>556402802>>556400113
>>556400153It's funny that I knew exactly who posted this before checking. The only people that care about her are people that will draw literally any background girl OC they find.
>>556403031
>>556403157Quid?
FUCK STARLINE
>>556403252sick design
>>556403252That is pretty cool actually.
>>556385804>>556388325Sorry mate. It was saved from a long while ago
Last movie you've watched?
>>556402930Well, I assumed Brevon was lying about his homeworld needing it but yes. Had they just given the guy with Robotnik Mustache Eyebrows the energy rock, he would've fucked off.Torque dragged an alien planet into his war with Brevon over nothing.
>>556402459SA-55 was the GOAT. R.I.P. SA-55.
>>556403440friday the 13th part 8
>>556403440Lost in TranslationMid, could have been better
>>556403440The Swarmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzUvaVUWT5o
>>556400113>>556400372I can't why SoJ would ever use Tangle and Whisper in anything. They add nothing of value, they only exist to be forced lesbian representation in a series not focused on romance
>>556403237One of them but this is Cosmic. He draws cute blobians girls and likes ass angles.
>>556403252https://youtu.be/2d1dgmncPwM?si=UypO54NqU5k-y8n_
>>556403440Knives out 3
>>556403661Care to share their work?
>>556403440Predator badlands
>>556403483He was a chad
>>556403640>I can't why SoJ would ever use Tangle and Whisper in anything.It's not hard at all to use them. Literally just have them fight Badniks. If Evan was smart enough to just have them and Lanolin do that, they would be a LOT more popular outside shipping circles.
https://files.catbox.moe/vzigac.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/odx3s9.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/8e4k6p.jpg
>>556403640Whisper and Tangle are kino when they're drawn by eastern himejoshis
>>556403985Nice cock
>>556404008>Whisper and Tangle are kino when they're drawn doing generic yuri pornwaow might as well replaced them with anything
>>556404008Nah
>>556403985SHEEP TITTY
Whisper and Tangle are kino when they're drawn as a trio of girlfailure three stooges.
Can Whispangle work if it's done like Naruhina?
>>556404245That I can get behind
>>556404309
>>556404008>>556404245I only feel disgust when looking at them
>I believe in Sonic's ideals. Im willing to give them a chance>Naaah, I'm completely fine with Whisper murdering Mimic
Naruto solos the entire Sonicverse without Kurama.
>>556404245How bout>Tangle>Whisper>Sticks
>>556403985I love boobs so much. I wish they were real.
>>556404505Yes, they could be the Guest Star Trio
>>556403440this art looks diagusting
>>556403881He does a lot of doodles and stuff.
>>556404245>>556404340>>556404439>>556404535We got none of this because Ian and Evan take Sonic way too fucking seriously.
>>556404245>whisper claims the entire bed for her healthy frame
>>556404615
>>556404753cock?
>>556404731>Sonic needs to be full of edge and drama Yep, they're Sonic fans alright
Anyone got the image of Fiona being knocked unconscious?pretend breezie is fiona ok
Peak Sonic Fandom is wanting to fuck the characters,
>>556404727Cute.>>556404753>>556404615They're so fun and bouncy.>>556404850That's a dress
>>556404340I love this one, it has a similar charm to the Chaotix. Wish we got this or literally anything else from them.
>>556404931>Peak Sonic Fandom is wanting to fuck the characters?
If you were born after Sonic Heroes, I don't want to hear your opinion on this franchise.
>responding to an argument after everyone's moved to the new threadCowardly behavior.
>>556405060If you were born after Sonic 1, I don't want to hear your opinion on this franchise.
I'd prefer Whisper to be genuinely competent, but she's a total pushover so she defers to whatever wild antics Tangle gets her into.
>>556404731Whisper, Tangle and Lanolin should be a female three stooges with CGDCT and occasional yuri baiting
I HOPE TO VISIT THIS COOL RANCH OF DORITOS AND BASK IN ALL OF ITS SPLENDOR
>>556404465I never watched naruto i dont know what that is
>>556405024It is quite interesting how much personaility factors into liking a character.>>556405164Damn, a year out!
oldfags think satam is in-character and don't even know what naka had to say about it so fuck you
>>556404931
>>556405164I'm fine with 2000's babies since the older of them actually experienced what this franchise was like before the decline. If you were born after Sonic Heroes though you will have no memory of how good this franchise used to be. You've just been living through the decline.
>>556402647That's really good!!
>>556402647Oh hey I missed this, nice work.
>>556405060>If you were born after Sonic Heroes, I don't want to hear your opinion on this franchise.I kind of agree, but if they can demonstrate they have gone back and beaten the good games to completion, I'll hear them out
>>556404930Only got the other way round.
>>556402459>I hate them so much.how much?What would you be willing to trade for them?
>>556405389ok well too bad, literally not their fault they were born at a certain point in time
>>556405562
>>556403985>QOTSAFinally some good fan art
I can feel it, SOMETHING is going to happen soon
>>556405612I don't care and I didn't ask.
>>556405731you're pregnant
Behave yourselves or I'll animate Shadow and Maria having sex
If you're younger than 30 you don't get to talk about video games because you don't know enough about them, it's that simple.
>>556405797I wished
Wait...it's all porn....
>>556405795wh- okay?noone asked for your opinion either to begin with but alright.
>>556405871>ai slop videoNo thanks
Douge
>>556405562Should've specified it was a reaction pic with Fiona's legs up in the air upside-down, not a boxing pic.
>>556405349Even Jewel could have been more like this before Lanolin came into the picture. The book focuses so much on retarded drama and took up too much screen time after deciding to make Whisper reset her character arc again.
>>556404008>>556404245>>556404340>>556404439>>556404535>>556404645>>556404753>>556404930>>556405215>>556405349>"What if, I were to use the Sonic brand to shill my own OCs instead of focusing on the series characters. Hohoho delightfully devilish Ian/Evan..."
>>556405349Where do you find these? I'm looking on his xitter and they don't show up
>>556405903True, the real reason social media for under 16s should be banned is because it might stem the tide of shitty alpha takes.>>556406176I'm friends with the artist.
>old people deciding how things should beThis is why the world is the way it is now
satamfags are too stupid to understand sonic
>>556406314they're not even that old, these guys are just in their thirties and have some weird sense of superiority over anyone younger than themI can understand that the general youth is fucking stupid and doesn't understand shit but damn, you're a grown ass man, act like it.
>>556405585>how much?>What would you be willing to trade for them?I'm not the right person to ask that question character-wise because I don't care about [insert whoever] getting in the games if that's what you're referring to. If anything I'd just get a kick out of people losing their shit over taking sonic stories so seriously.I just hate Orbot and Cubot because they're intentionally annoying and that's just dumb to me.So for me? I'd be willing to say I would be willing to to make the next Sonic game an Xbox Console exclusive or whatever if it meant they died.
If you weren't here for the ancient games then I have every right to call you a newfag zoomer.
>>556406314>>556406435I'm being facetious, but you'll feel the same way too one day, it's just part of getting old.
>>556405903>If you're younger than 30 you don't get to talk about video gamesYou just need to be able to demonstrate that you've gone out of your way to engage with worthwhile games.If you've only played Boostslop, yeah your opinion as a sonic fan holds virtually no weight to me.
Don't even bother talking to me about video games if you weren't alive when this came out.
>>556406585this
>>556406615YOOOOOOOOOOOO finally some REAL fuckin computer games
>>556406615Imagine this falling on top of you
>>556406585Yeah, pretty much all the main games up through SA2 should be like required reading (gaming) essentially
>>556404505ST Sticks will be introduced as a jungle bitch that lives in Mystic Ruins and tends to pester Tails over his love for technology
the real best ship
>>556406735That's pretty much how Toyoda wrote her.
>>556406615Pfft, I remeber playing on the Babbage Wonderdive back in the reign of good Queen Vic.
stop being old
>>556406628Put her in the anti-masturbation cross as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZNZHGc8dV4
>>556406932We can't stop, entropy is inevitable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kik00iOjbdk
>>556406932*eats werther's originals*No dice, kiddo.
>>556406932I'M TRYING!
>>556406735ST also describe Sticks to really love shiny things instead of being a dumb paranoid schizoThat's the biggest improvement, fuck that trait
*puts in dentures*you know sonny i remember when sonic was so good that girls would fuck you just for liking it
>>556407118>ST>putting that much thought into a character circa 2026nah
>>556399971https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnprWvFHU78
>>556407196God I miss Adventure 2
>>556406886God you're young, I used to play with pebbles during France's first republic.
>>556406932*drinks from the fountain of youth*My puberty.... ...it's fading....
Sonic Team SallySonic Team LanolinSonic Team Scratch and GrounderSonic Team Manic and SoniaSonic Team Longclaw
STOP REPLYING TO THE OLD THREAD
>>556407068>werther's originals>not a chick o stick>>556407237I miss putting in cartridges and hooking my system to my tv via coaxial cable and changing to channel 3
>implying wolves are canines
>>556406973
Imagine zoomers trying to deal with this
Sonic fans go to conventions dedicated to selling unofficial, bootleg merchandise to “support the artists”, and then turn around and collectively lose their shit at the thought of fangame devs accepting donations through Patreon and other sites
>>556406973>anti-masturbation crosssounds like a yugioh card
You can't talk to me about video games if you haven't thrown one of these at someone's skull.
>>556407543what the fuck do you think a zoomer is
>>556407629Anyone younger than me
>>556407543I remember the cables but I don't remember what the fuck that black thing is.
I would actually like Tangle and Whisper more if they were antagonists, they don't have any good dynamic with main cast
>>556407624Definitely a trap card.
>>556407691scart rgb
>>556406932When I was young.... *Cough* I had to *Cough* kill Groundsloths with my bare hands *Cough*Now you whippersnappers got them.... them... "Spears" or whatever you call.... *Wheezing cough*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ2mPfFe24I
>>556407804got an audible chuckle out of me
>>556405106>responding to an argument after everyone's moved to the new threadI had errands, I have a life outside this general, I replied and didn't have the thread on auto refresh.>Cowardly behavior.You can't even backlink me you bitch ass nigga.
You can't talk to me about video games. Period.
Shadow don’t make me upset
>>556408045I wasn't the one you were arguing with, and you saw the thread was over before you posted. Even then, why didn't you correct your mistake by posting it again? You clearly wanted the last word more than he did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi7Yh16dA0w
You can't talk.
I have no mouth and I must scream.
Silver don't make me happy
>>556408361Beat me to it.
>>556407703They work better as one off characters with a problem that the main casts solves and is never heard from again.Keeping them around only atrophies their character as nothing continues to happen with them.
>>556408363BURACK ROOOCK SHOOOOOTTAAAA
>>556406696>uuuuuuu help me please uuuuuuu
>wah i want the ocs to be what i want instead of what the creators want!Ian and Evan's ideas are lame but yours are worse
>>556408558Congrats on your bottom surgery Anon. I hope it finally makes you feel whole.
>>556408305They cute.
Whisper should be a whore and Tangle should be a cheerleader who sucks dicks but is shy about sex. Both of them should wear dresses and cook for men.
>>556408363
>>556408558>Ian and Evan's ideas are lame but yours are worseHow is wanting the OCs to just do their job and contribute to the plot worse than their ideas?
Embarrassing.
>>556408558I want the comic to actually be about the Sonic and friends, not them being sidelined for Ian and Evan to shill their own OCs
I am the gayman that’s what I am!
>>556408801Me too so id rather someone say "cut the OCs" than pitch retarded ideas about them being three stooges or them being villains
my ideas are actually very smart and very sexy, you wouldn't get it
My ideas make bankYour ideas make stank
I'm at liberty to make a suggestion and you're just at liberty to ignore it, or tell me I'm a mong. Whatever.
Mischaracterizing Whisper and Tangle just to punish IDW is just as bad as making Sonic a dating boyfriend freedom fighter character. Hypocrisy is not the way.
>>556406015Officially debunked by Sega. Find something else to schiz over.
Sonic needs an egg boyfriend
>"We intend to expand her repertoire going forward in the story."Did Lanolin ever get anything else beyond shockwaves and a microphone, or did Evan fuck that up too?
>>556409482I will be shocked if she shows up again as even a semi-important character before #100
>>556407691Retarded European connector.
boyfriends
>>556409741cute!
>>556409646heard it was pretty damn good tho
>>556408981They can make new characters if they need a role that doesn't fit any of the main series characters while also having a good dynamic with the main castThat just character creation 101Surge, Kit and Starline are better examples. Surge and Kit having beef with Sonic and Starline being an Eggman fanboy. It's not much but it's something
>>556407543Just match the colours moron
>>556409741FUCK!!!YOU DID IT! THANKSPAWFFFFSSSS planning any nsfw with Silver or not?
>>556409741cute feet
>>556409613They set SOMETHING up in #76, but Evan was shown to be incapable of writing without fucking up the story with melodrama. At this point, the most I'm hoping for is the debut of Lanolin's Mom since it's her hometown that's getting rebuilt.
>>556401239Freedom Planet 3 never existed. And I have no idea what they'd do with it. There was a Brevon tease but I don't know if that's still in the game....Why the fuck would Brevon even come back to the planet? There's nothing there.
>>556409741Very nicely done>>556241618
>>556410290You're just ADHD fuck who expects a monthly comic to follow up immediately on everyone when we are now dealing with Belle
>>556410061two more requests and a couple corrections to go, then I'll be working on it>>556409792>>556410175thanks!>>556410414and thank you, I realized right after hitting post that I didn't link...
>>556409741Good job. I'll try and draw some Katella this weekend.
>>556410290>At this point, the most I'm hoping for is the debut of Lanolin's Mom since it's her hometown that's getting rebuilt.You'd have a better chance of getting a new Adventure game with a polished chao garden
>>556410506 oh, I thought this pic was the one which you were planning beforeBut it was from a request from yestersday
Bun!
>>556409482Does she really only wear that stupid bell around her neck because she's a sheep?Sonic character aren't just animals, they behave like people. No person would go around with a bell around their neck unless they were an autistic furryThis is what i'm talking about how western Sonic "fans" treat these characters like they are literal animalsThis is just cringe
>>556407543I'm pretty sure lots of households still had DVD players that used RCA connectors until mid-10s
>>556410559How exactly? It's one pre-established character they have no reason NOT to include, if only for drama points which fit's Evan's garbage writing tastes.
>>556409837For what it was, yes. Still a retarded connector.
>>556410506Not the >>556410061but I too would like to see NSFW Silvelias
>>556410941fair nuff!
>>556410742Bunnie's mom!
>>556410290>Lanolin hold still there's a bug in your tent
This is a real product in Japan.
>>556412224Uh oh melty hot pie
soon we will have every franchise including yours
>>556412224raw cream pie
>>556409181>Mischaracterizing Whisper and Tangle just to punish IDWBro what? This shit's just for fun, what's wrong with you?
>>556412425Buzz-buzz!
>>556412425Name every franchise that actually have trans people
IDW already mischaracterizes Whisper and Tangle themselves. They haven't been in character in Evan took over and completely fucked them over by hamming in the virtue signaling yuribait and writing lowtier melodrama that never went anywhere meaningful
>>556412618Wouldnt having a stinger make Charmy a reverse trap?
Im becoming old as we speak just to spite on you
>>556412690RWBY
>>556412690Mario
>>556412690Sonic the Hedgehog
>>556411145I thought this was Epictones at fist, or is it just the commissioner posting it?
So uhmAnyone wanna play Crossworlds
>>556412837
Did Metal ever use his pointy fingers to kill something?
>>556413561Amy in Evan's manga
>>556413185Yeah it's epictones.
>>556413561Gemerl
>>556410742Wowie zowie!!
Zesty
Sonic merch for this feel?
>DMC gets ONE(1) OOC tv series >It's ten times more on brand than every Sonic adaptation before IDW >Universal fandom meltdown of seething rage can you imagine if undergorund or satam came out today
I know Sonic Team is taking their good time and all but can't we at least a get a little teaser trailer for the new Sonic game, just the title alone would be enough
>>556404340https://litter.catbox.moe/tk6va6524rftqv7r.mp4
>>556414297>Sonic Team is taking their good timeYou know very well they're actually rushing whatever bullshit they're cookint up this time.
I thiYou guys are lying when you say Sonic X is more in character than IDW. I think you just like Sonic X that much. Ira nostalgia. Sonic isn't an alien...
>>556414241>It's ten times more on brandYou never played DMC, huh?
>>556414554>Sonic isn't an alien...He was until a few years ago.
Shadow is more of a relic of the 2000s than Sonic is of the 90s.>Backstory that has nothing to do with the Sonic series. SA1 built itself off of established lore, human governments, militaries, conspiracies, and genetic engineering have nothing to do with Sonic the Hedgehog. The only tie Shadow has to previous lore is Gerald being Eggman's grandfather, but absolutely nothing about SA2's story would change if Gerald was just some unrelated scientist.>Genetic engineering to explain his powers even though every character before and after him never needed an explanation, they were just born like that.>Shadow 05 compounds on this by adding alien DNA into the mix, but all this really explains is why he's black and red, a question nobody ever asked.Shadow is an embodiment of 2000s cliches. Trying too hard to be "edgy", needlessly detailed backstory that overexplains things that didn't need to be explained.Sonic may be rooted in 90s culture, but the core of his character, a fun-loving adventurer, is timeless. Shadow doesn't have that timelessness. The world has changed a lot since the 2000s, and Shadow is a character that just doesn't work outside of that decade's cultural climate.Shadow Generations and the movie exacerbate this because rather than tell a new story with Shadow, they just regurgitate characters and concepts from the 2000s games. They have no fucking clue what to do with him. Every attempt to move his character forward has failed, but keeping him stuck in the 2000s hasn't worked either.
>>556414241You should have seen the reaction to the reboot
>>556414241I can imagine it'd be just as bad if 06 released today
>>556414687Still popular so your opinion's dogshit. Simple as.
>>556414687Black Dooms DNA also explains why Shadow is immortal and can use Chaos Control without being immobile and restrained like Biolizard
>>556414974>secretly finds it funnyNah
>>556414974A woman definitely made this
It fucking bugs me that everyone in charge will make a ton of new OCs instead of exploring Big, Silver, Blaze and Mighty
so this thread it was the zoomers that threw a tantrum huh?What's next? Classicucks?
>>556414687I wish other characters were as interesting and fleshed out as Shadow
>>556414974kek that's actually pretty accurate
>>556415320they can't "explore" anything because people like (YOU) will scream OOC the second they actually start to develop their characters at all
>>556415485Because IDW doesn't develop the characters. It just replaces their personalities.
>>556415485They aren't allowed to explore the characters because Sonic Team wants to do it themselves but never do
>>556415485remember the guy yesterday who said sonic isn't allowed to say 3 or more sentences but then also defended the Tails cowering in fear as consistent just because it came from Japan?
>>556415616>sonic Team wants to do itnahthey just make shitty games
>>556414127mmmmm pink rat
>>556415616sonic team views the characters as placeholders.they couldn't give a shot about developing them
Why is randomwindfag so mean
>>556415619yesterday was great in generalI love watching autists implode
>>556414453NEat
>>556415791>Why is randomwindfag so meanHe's just extremely possessiveI used to be that way about Sonic when I was like 10. Theres a need to feel like the "authority" on Sonic. He'll grow out of it.
Sonamyfags and Sonallyfags think development is when Sonic gives up his entire identity to settle down and starts acting like a teen hearthrob. Shipperfags don't care about the characters.
>>556415619>defended thevTails cowering in fear as consistent just because it came from Japan?Didn't happen. You just have reading comprehension issues.
>>556415320That would mean doing as Sega tells them too and they don't like that. How can they turn Big, Silver, Blaze, and Mighty gay, trans, lame, and communist if Sega won't let them?
>>556415754Yet wind schizos defend this
I'm in a sonic thread... And no one wants to play the games?What kind of fandom is this
>>556415951He's like 35
Will the Chaotix episode break the fandom?
>>556415689
Sonic should have character development and fuck Surge in between her thick wide hips
>>556416271crossworlds?im hopping on it rn
>>556416027Shut up, Randomfox. Character development is not adulteration and you’re not Sonic’s owner.
What if Maria was the ultimate bullet dodger?
Forces Tails is ooc
>>556416476>Sonic should have character developmentInto what? Dude's the chill mentor. What development does he need?
>>556416665I am not Randomfox you fucking schizo. I don't care about windshit. Sonic shouldn't like anyone.
>>556416027>Sonamyfags and Sonallyfags think development is when Sonic gives up his entire identity to settle down and starts acting like a teen hearthrob.Amy wants to have adventures with him, bro. Settling down in some house is antithetical to her wishes.
>>556414453Good.Now voice the Ralph Bakshi one
>>556416271Sorry, still in Space Marine 2
>>556416271I only play crossworlds at the weekend bro, i'm too tired after work
>>556416895Sonic Heroes
>>556417026Marriage with Sonic is going on adventures with him till they're old and gray. Or dead.
>>556416271I'm currently listening to the River City Girls soundtrack. Man, the Kunio-kun/River City franchise is such a rabbit hole.
Sonic doesn't need development to love Amy. Sally is impossible though. Sonic would hate her. Sonadow is more in-character than Sonally.
>>556415864Thanks!>>556416901?
>>556416829Ok, then don’t use Sonic is the wind as an argument against Sonic being in a romantic relationship when you yourself admit you don’t care about Sonic’s wind trait
>>556417373>Ok, then don’t use Sonic is the wind as an argument against Sonic being in a romantic relationshipWhen the fuck did I mention the stupid windshit you faggot?
>>556417215>Sonic would hate her.
Morain!
>>556416936They probably ate Iblis minions
>>556417608Marine kidnap humans to make sex slaves.
>>556417373>>556417438SatAMnik is faster than the Windhttps://youtu.be/CeSgXNAhD9Y?si=VEwzXKyveAzR5SCj&t=1115
>>556417215>Sonadow is more in-character than Sonally.Not even close. The extent of Sonally with an IC Sonic AND Satam Sally are hookups. Casual sex. That's how they both want it. Sonic's straight as an arrow and Shadow's Mariasexual.
>>556417539I have all these old Satam documents saved and my heart flows whenever I see them brought up. The behind the scenes stuff is more interesting than the show itself. Sally is the princess from hell. Nicole is the Ultimate Solution. I love itm
>>556406615My brother and me used to play it down at the bar
>>556408546
>>556418041Tell me you understand what princess from hell means.
>>556417892>character sexuality as an unmovable character traitSo many shippers would rage if they had to play this way
>>556417438You never mentioned wind but you implicitly say that Sonic being in a romantic relationship is out of character.ñ but you’re just saying that because you personally don’t like romance in Sonic
>>556417892Sonadow is more in character than the literal fanfiction you just wrote out of your Sonic hatred
>>556418237I know what princess from hell means! :)
>>556416469Smug AI needs correcting.
>>556418216lmao
>>556418263All the mindless shipping in these threads is a good reason why to hate it
>>556418361>imagethe mcdonalds of sonic porn
>>556418216kek
>>556417608>Sonaze only works through conjugal visits, but without the jail. Sonic ain't settling down to become a king.>I like Knuxouge>Tails and Marine's okay and it seems like ST's kinda into it>Shadamy relies on breaking the characters to work>the fuck is Silvespio?>Whispangle relies on breaking the characters to work. I'd rather they have crushes on Sonic and Shadow for comedic reasons.
>>556418494How dare you insult McDonalds like that!
>>556418263Sonic hates romance and love shit. That has nothing to do with wind crap where he's worshipped by everyone
>>556418351>Sonadow is more in character than the literal fanfiction you just wrote out of your Sonic hatredYou're nuts.>>556418595>Sonic hates romance and love shit.Nah, he hates commitment. He's dated before. Probably has had sex too.
>>556418752>He's dated before. Probably has had sex too.no proof
>>556403378It’s all good. That’s a good find. I been collecting Surge and Kit art like trading cards lmao.https://youtu.be/MRn2jDfsOsQ?si=r3weeYcTvJePTTUM
>>556418494Fitting I suppose.
>>556418752>You're nuts.Anyone who thinks Sonally is in character hates Sonic. Anyone. Literally ties Sonic down and forces him to "develop". It's an anti Sonic pairing.
>>556418752Sonic never actually dated Amy you retarded shipperfag.
>>556418818>no proof
Shippers are so fucking stupid
>>556418930>Sonic never actually dated Amy you retarded shipperfag.https://youtu.be/jAvKn3IVsuU?si=BFg6ql4Cb2NadUCp&t=400
>>556419119>Scene where Sonic didn't date Amy.
>>556419119Good ship that respects Sonic's freedom unlike Sonally rape.
>>556418927You clearly didn't read what I posted and just thew an autistic fit instead. Take your meds.
>>556419240Because he got transported to Camelot. That's why he had 2 chili dogs. He was on his date with Amy, which he agreed to in Unleashed.
>>556418874
>>556405871*flips over a table*Oh nooo I'm misbehaving haha...oh no...
Windfags I can handle. Windfags who think SatAM is the the devil itself are excessive. People who think Sonic hates romance are a beast I keep forgetting exists
>>556417330
Is he right bros?
>>556419502Jesus, Unleashed looked great. The last time Sonic games actually looked good.
>>556419680
>>556419502It’s such a shame Sonic never tried to make it up to her
why do you keep arguing with him as if you're going to change his mind
They have repented, and are now no longer sinful dykes
>>556419692who cares?Sonic characterization is not that important.Ian cares but he gets it wrong.And Sega barely cares at all.
>>556419632"Game" Sonic doesn't hates romance, but he doesn't actively pursues it either.
>>556417026Perfectly encapsulates what that guy said. Amy wants adventure, and that's why she chases after Sonic. The entire point of the boss fight on her end is proving to Sonic how strong she is. She wants to impress him so badly, he'll fall head over heels for her and -want- to marry her. It's not about actual marriage, it's about showing off to impress her crush.
>>556420225>"Game" Sonic doesn't hates romanceWhich one?They're not exactly consistent to each other
You guys need to learn the difference between a windfag, a purist, and a sonamyfag pretending to be a windfag because they hate opposing ships
>>556419567kek
>>556420364They’re all fagfags as far as I’m concerned
>>556420290Please let me reiterate that I am not trying to prove your opinion right, wrong, or whatever.I don't care about whatever you're talking about.All I'm going to remind you is that Sonic Heroes should never be utilized as evidence for anything story-related as it's such a story-light game that it goes out of its way to bend everyone's characterizations backwards just to justify the team gimmick.
i cant find joy in this place anymore
>>556420364>You guys need to learn the difference between a windfag, a purist, and a sonamyfagThese have like 96% overlap with each other here
>>556420558>i cant find joy in this place anymoreonly ATS anons have funeveryone else is miserablemake the switch anonEnjoy sonic and accept it as the mess that it is
>>556420703this
>>556420558you must make your own joy, friend
>>556420623Windfag>Wants Sonic to be in-character, usually to the adventure gamesPurist>If Sonic is out of character the material is bad no matter what Sonamyfag>Sonic is in character as long as he is in love with Amy and nobody elseThere is overla since all 3 are opposed to Sonic being in a pairing to some extent but these are different
>>556419828
>>556417608Right is complete dogshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX7beDbuIVM
If you value Sonic being in-character -and- value Amy being in-character, then Sonamy is the natural conclusion, but only with the understanding that it is an eternal chase and neither will ever settle down, and they're likely never gonna be 'official', but mutual feelings do exist.
>>556420623A windfag and a purist will both dismiss anything that can't be found in the games which should include shit like Sonic kissing and being really horny which is literally just a fanon take on his free spirited nature. Harmless but blatantly not canon. A Sonamyfag will make allowances for that last part as long as it's with Amy.
>>556421525This is obvious to fans with a brain and without an agenda, but that's not good enough for some people
>>556421525That’s lame as fuck. Do it or don’t
>>556418538>Shadow
>>556421831SONIC'S BITCHES!
>>556420878That's not a puristA purist will literally defend absolutely ANYTHING that sega of Japan puts out even if it breaks preexisting character traits, as seen yesterday
Sonamyfags don't actually have a problem with archienic and satamnic being ooc, they just hate that it was with a different girl. Windshit gives them an excuse to bash those things for being OOC. They merely adopted the windshit. They aren't true blooded windpsychos.
https://youtu.be/6fsOBFfc9lQ?si=SmRhI2l8UpGFD0wU
>>556422039That's just Sonic again. Why can't these artists ever get him right?
>>556422084>>556420878Windfag>If Sonic is in-character it's goodPurist>If Japan made it it's goodSonamyfag>If Sonic and Amy are fucking it's good There is a 90% overlap between these anyways
>>556422091Meds
Nobody in this series is canonically gay
Being an everythingfag is fun.
>>556418538>I'd rather they have crushes on Sonic and Shadow for comedic reasons.You mean Sonic and Silver since Shadow has no personality beyond Vegeta-knockoff, right? Even Lanolin realistically wouldn't touch him if we're going by canon-accurate personalities.
>>556422326Mostly accurateWhat windfags consider "in character" is relatively vague however.
>>556421587What kinda burger da fox like?
>>556421525A good romance between Sonic and Amy must lead to something. Keeping it in a limbo where it’s always been teased but never results in anything is a waste of time and bad writing
Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2 Sonic are not the same character.
>>556422803correct
>>556422645>canon-accurate personalities.Is there a chart for that? It seems like most discussion is two people smacking each other but neither agrees on what canon actually is.
>>556422698Depends on the windfag perhaps. I think they generally agree on what is purely unacceptable but any large group of people will still disagree. Don't some of them consider ALL games ic while others see 06 as grossly ooc.?
>>556422803in Japan they are, but you're correct that the West got Adventure 1 Sonic wrong and dived way too deep into the radicool stuff
>>556422923You've got it figured out.
>>556422718That depends on how you're looking at it. The truth is that their dynamic -is- their relationship in its most ideal state. An eternal chase of endless adventure and thrill.
>>556422645>You mean Sonic and Silver since Shadow has no personality beyond Vegeta-knockoff, right?Shadow is nothing like Vegeta. Vegeta's a prideful dude who's life purpose is to beat Goku. Shadow's a brooding autist who's life purpose is fulfilling the wish of his deceased loved one. It's just localization rearing its ugly head again with him.
Sonic literally doesn't joke quip or snark in sa1. Even in the English version the most jokes he does are insults. Sa2 Sonic is basically a comedian in comparison
>>556422803Adventure 1 just has really bad english voice acting and directing work. Comes off as really phoned in.The character writing isn't necessarily off, it's just the execution is badthere are scenes in SA2 that still have bad execution tho, like the introduction of Knuckles and Rouge
It's not just game grumps, everyone I know that has played SA1 initially believes he's singing the song at the end and laughed at it
Nobody said that yet?Really?
>>556423261nooooooooooo re-blobify her
Can you retards quit using localized shit as examples for inconsistency? That's on SoA, not Sonic Team. JP Sonic has been the same dude the whole way through. Jason Griffith is the only one who got portray him correctly from 06 to Black Knight.>>556422932Big diff between the versions of SA2 where Sonic's more nonchalant about Amy's capture in ENG, while he's alert and very worried in JP.
>>556423386>JP Sonic has been the same dude the whole way throughlol
>>556423031It shouldn’t be an eternal chase. That defeats the purpose of a romance being teased in the first place.
>>556423386>Big diff between the versions of SA2 where Sonic's more nonchalant about Amy's capture in ENG, while he's alert and very worried in JP.https://youtu.be/PiSVTpRCGXA?si=jABaBFL0IJJlGyHB&t=405
>>556423465Amy ships Shadouge because she loves a slow burnSonic ships Knuxouge because he thinks it's funny
>>556423386Voice acting in Sonic was a mistake. It introduced too many problems.
>>556423558But the thing is, in this case, the "Chase" IS the romance itself.
>>556423386eh... Japanese meta era still gave him. a pretty noticeable lobotomy
>>556423545Prove me wrong then.
Amy Rose
>>556423570if anything in the Japanese version he's being way too serious in the other direction
>>556423712In Ow The Edge he's way too silly even in Japan.And 2006 the Elise stuff is still way too forced, and he plays right into it regardless of the localizationthose games are back to back
>>556423386Localization isn’t fixing this shit
>>556423049>t's just localization rearing its ugly head again with him.You mean like when Sega essentially officially declared Shadow as not having much personality traits beyond brooding autist via mandates and saying the other members of Team Dark aren't his friends?
>>556423962This is about Sonic.
>>556423570I unironically think tye English one is better in this caseHe's acting way too stiff in Japan which he normally doesn't
>>556423386English localization in the Dark Age was written more so around conveying the emotional intent of dialogue and rather than being a straight translation. This leads to a trades up, conceding some narrative inaccuracies to maintain the mood across international audiences.This makes sense because Sonic has always been about themes and characterization rather than telling a consistent and air tight story.
>>556423962Anon, the thread is in relative agreement that SoJ has dropped the ball on consistency from time to timeBut in regards to the specific character of Sonic the Hedgehog they are GENERALLY better about it
Sa1-Riders aren't reliable due to the "tude" being played up in the dubs and making him mean to Amy in a way that just doesn't exist in the originals
I love Mobian pawsI love Mobian feetI love Mobian blobsI love also their clawsI love their pawpadsAnd I love their musk too
>>556424091Sonic has almost never been about an air tight storyStory is like 10th down the line of what's important when they make these games
>>556423735wow cute!!
>>556423989>You mean like when Sega essentially officially declared Shadow as not having much personality traits beyond brooding autist via mandatesBro, Archie Shadow is gone. Get over it.>>556424010>He's acting way too stiff in Japan which he normally doesn'tHim freaking out over Amy's capture is too stiff?
>>556424239>Him freaking out over Amy's capture is too stiff?Yes considering that's not how he acts every time Amy gets captured. He's way too constipated in the SA2 scene.
>>556424169>Sa1-Riders aren't reliable due to the "tude" being played up in the dubs and making him mean to Amy in a way that just doesn't exist in the originalsThe fucking dub for SA2 ruined the dramatic pause when Sonic tells Amy to take care. Whoever brought up that American writers can't do pauses and subtleties was right.
>Seething about me when I'm not hereNo amount of mental gymnaisticcs makes Sonally in-character. Even if you want to cherry pick specific games. If you don't want to be "bullied" for mischaracterizing Sonic then don't mischaracterize Sonic.
>>556424220congrats retard you read his comment wrong and now look dumb
>>556423648Amy isn’t chasing Sonic anymore because he takes her with him now. Now, the next step is for a romance to be actualizar and portrayed substantially between Sonic and Amy.Think of it this way, you don’t tease a romance unless you plan to make it official in the future in the same way you don’t release a trailer if you don’t plan on releasing a movie/game
>>556424408>Sally>Sally>Sallyyou ok?
>>556424158>the thread is in relative agreement that SoJ has dropped the ball on consistency from time to timeSince fucking when
>>556424351>Yes considering that's not how he acts every time Amy gets captured.Bro reacts the same here in SA1 https://youtu.be/mrdFTWzsiYs?si=lb3R1jF_qx3A5z1O&t=1011It's consistent.
The real inconsistency is that umbrella bullshit in Frontiers that comes out of nowhere.
>>556424408Sonic/Sally is in character for their own interpretation of Sonic.
>>556424169How do you know Japnic wasn't being mean to Amy by Japanese social standards and that Englishnic wasn't punched up to convey that meanness in a way westerners would be able to recognize? You know to avoid what would happen to Silver.
>>556424471>Amy isn’t chasing Sonic anymore because he takes her with him nowthis is OOCSonic as a character is allowed to evolve, but he shouldn't be slowing down for his friends, especially when he generally finds Amy annoying and relies on his speed to get away from her when he gets done with her.It's just Sonic Heroes 2.0 where the plot demands a team be there so they blatantly broke their preexisting rules in service of the game itself.This is the same reason shit like the Zelda timeline doesn't work. They don't consult the overarching lore first, they make the individual games and bend the lore around them, sometimes horribly twisting it.And then they do extra damage by greenlighting Ian to localize it for the 45th time. They just don't care that much. The average schizo here cares more about Sonic characterization than Sega does, and it sucks.
>>556424784>How do you know Japnic wasn't being mean to Amy by Japanese social standards and that Englishnic wasn't punched up to convey that meanness in a way westerners would be able to recognize?Acceptable argument, honestly.
>>556424532Wow that’s probably even worse than this. The editing is so subtle.
>>556424585how is this the same? In SA2 his entire pitch changes and he starts freaking out.
>>556424762the boys...
>>5564245851. These are not the same lol, get your ears checked2. CD also exists
>>556424784>How do you know Japnic wasn't being mean to Amy by Japanese social standards and that Englishnic wasn't punched up to convey that meanness in a way westerners would be able to recognize?I played the game in Japanese. He just gets a little overwhelmed by her high energy but cares for her a fuck ton. US and JP Sonic were way different characters in the Adventure games.
>>556424897>how is this the same?Are you autistic?>>556424957>These are not the same lol, get your ears checkedYou're being too literal. Cut it out. It's autistic.>CD also existsThe game where bro went out of his way to save her? A game with barely any story and no voice acting?
>>556424656Been a thing since Unleashed allowed you to make Sonic agree to a date with Amy and SatBK suggesting Sonic was on a date with Amy (two chili dogs).
See the thing none of you seem to get is that the purists are actually correct almost all the time in the things they argue.Where they're wrong is that it really just doesn't matter that much. That's not the main emphasis put in the game development.So while they are more consistant than westoids want to admit, the reason they do occasionally slip up with shit like >>556423962 is because at the end of the day characterization is not their primary concern.
>>556425187>and no voice actingSo you're a fan of the fandom.
>>556424471 (me)*you don’t tease a romance if you don’t plan to make it official in the future.
They're right. Sonic shouldn't have had any voice acting. Then we all wouldn't still be here.
>>556425187>i'll just call everyone that disagrees with me autisticok
>>556424175okay Eggman
>>556425000Are you Japanese/aware enough about Japanese social standards to make that assessment?
>>556425187those guys are retardedSonic does care when his friends get captured. You would only be incorrect if you were pretending it applies specially to Amy. He would act the same way if it was Tails.
https://youtu.be/s4Py4iRfM88?si=15IPPbr525i5i3Ga
>>556424831>They don't consult the overarching lore first, they make the individual games and bend the lore around them, sometimes horribly twisting it.Because actual creatives don't give a flying fuck about that stuff. They retcon themselves ALL THE TIME whenever they think they have a better idea or story to tell. Or whatever makes more money.>>556425367Aside from those little bits that don't tell a story. Just an excuse to show off the Sega CD's hardware without actually having full voice acting and a fleshed out story with it to do so. Just them saying things.>I'm out of here!>ALRIGHT!>Metal's gibberish
Windfag Level 1: Sonic should act like his early speaking appearances Windfags in this category will consider the meta era to be OOC and may thing 06 is crossing the line in making Sonic too romantic.All windfags are dismissive of Archie and SatAM's romance but that does not necessarily mean they hate it. Pariah is one of the most well known windfags and he considers SatAM to be superior to both Sonic X and Sonic 06. He just notes that it's out of character for game Sonic without hating it as a productThese are the only windfags that tolerate Sonally. They still think it's out of character. Windfag Level 2: If it's in english then it's out of character.This windfag only considers the japanese versions of each game to be in-character and the true vision of SonicWindfag Level 3: I hate the west.Windfags in this category see Sonally as a rape of their senses. Any deviation from Sonic's japanese characterization is an act of war. Windfag Level 4: Death is the only optionA windfag in this category sees every game as in-character no matter what. They might criticize the english versions, but to them as long as it happened in a game, then it's okay. If it happened outside of a game then it is bad. To a windfag in this category, Sonic Forces is a better story than Archie Sonic. Because Archie Sonic is not a game. Windfag Level 5: The Adventure games ruined Sonic.Windfags in this category are both rare and old. They're people who knew that Satam was taking liberties back in the 90s from the very beginning. These windfags see Sonic as a stoic antihero who was ruined by the adventure games.
>>556424831Sonic doesn’t find Amy annoying though
>>556422084>a purist is my hyperspecific boogeymanOk bro
>>556425542Not a Jap but yeah.
>>556423587Amy ships shadouge because she's retardedSonic ships knuxouge because he's based
>>556425898That was the definition given yesterdayDon't blame me for quoting him
>>556425352>characterization is not their primary concernThen what is? Gameplay? LOL good one. Whatever the case, they absolutely should take characterization WAY more seriously. The characters themselves have always been the strength of this franchise as a whole. Outside of the very first classic games, the gameplay of every era has been hotly contested. Same with the overall stories outside SA2
>>556425950Ooc. Rouge is flat.
>>556425394Superstars' story was barely comprehensible, but nobody complained about the character inconsistencies it may have had between regions. Both Japan and the rest of the world got to see the same characters, unaltered by voice acting differences.
>>556425000>He just gets a little overwhelmed by her high energy but cares for her a fuck ton. eh, he's pretty annoyed with her antics stillIf anything the biggest difference between Japanese and American Sonic as far as Amy goes is that in Japan he seems like he's be more willing to have her around if she would drop the dating shit, where is in America he is just more put off by her in general.He cares for her enough to rescue her in both of them.
All this shit is just shippers coming up with excuses. If you're trying to reach the conclusion "Sonic kisses this character" you already failed the character. >But Sonic Team did it!Fuck Sonic Team
>>556425695>Sonic doesn’t find Amy annoying thoughhe finds the clingy stuff annoying in both versionsHe finds her less annoying outside of that in Japan.So you're correct that the west gets it wrong, but anyone ever arguing for sonamy gets it the most wrong.
>>556424239>Bro, Archie Shadow is gone.I wasn't angsting over Archie Shadow. I was pointing out how stupid it was to pair Shadow with anybody, especially Lanolin.
>>556426183>he seems like he's be more willing to have her around if she would drop the dating shitBro, he's okay with that. He just doesn't fuck with marriage.
>>556426016>Then what is? Gameplay?Correct>LOL good onenobody said they were a good devTheir track record on good non-2D games is like 10%
>>556426183>If anything the biggest difference between Japanese and American Sonic as far as Amy goes is that in Japan he seems like he's be more willing to have her around if she would drop the dating shit, where is in America he is just more put off by her in general.this is correct.He can't stand the dating shit in Japan and has no romantic feelings for her, but in the USA he's more like eeeeew cooties whixh is dumb
>>556426340>I was pointing out how stupid it was to pair Shadow with anybody, especially Lanolin.No you weren't. >>556423989
>>556426512>No you weren't.Look further, smartass. >>556422645
Sonic doesn't slow down for anyone.The only reason Tails is there a lot is because to some extent Tails can keep up.That has always been the point.Anything more than this is OOC.
>>556426498>He can't stand the dating shit in Japan and has no romantic feelings for herBro, why are you lying? There's evidence to the contrary in this very thread. What's your damage?
>>556426615while true, both sonic team and Ian seem to have forgotten this
>>556426126This example implies that you think Sonic had enough star power to not only omit voice acting in the late 90s/early 2000s, but it also could've done so while also remaining a 2D focused franchise.If you genuinely believe this, then I need the number to your dealer.
>>556426631>he's just a closet sonamy forcerkek should have guessed
>>556426598Who said anything about Shadow reciprocating, numbnuts?>I'd rather they have crushes on Sonic and Shadow for comedic reasons
>>556426615This entire thread and all this windshit is just shipperfags playing games. >But this or thatSonally is always OOC. Everything about it is OOC. There is nothing IC about it. It's the most cracked ship ever. It doesn't work.>Sonamy!!Sonamyfags are WORSE because at least Sonallyfags have Farchie to fill their brains with misinformation. Sonamyfags basically want all the dogshit Sonallyfags have.
>>556426631Sonamy isn't canon retardYou're not better than the blaze fags when you start pushing this shit, because they have their """evidence""" too
>>556426372I love her
>>556426286Sonic enjoys her company now and has shown signs of being romantically interested in her
>>556426824Most accurate post in the thread right hereTOTAL SHIPFAG DEATH is desperately needed
>>556425678>the voice acting in CD was just TECHNOLOGYNTA but Modernfags really undersell Classic's contributions to the series. Sometimes I wonder why they are so averse to it being sectioned off to a separate continuity.
>>556426761Sure buddy >>556419502
>>556424186
>>556426825>Sonamy isn't canon retardAccording to SEGA, it is
If Sonic said "I'll slow down for you" to Amy then Sonamyfags would defend it and become enemies of windfaggots
Crack Theory;Evan Stanley's garbage writing of the Neo Diamond Cutters (lack of accomplishments, detrimental incompetence, forced melodrama, premature disbanding) was ON PURPOSE by secret order of the Sega higher-ups to kill their hype so the comic wouldn't waste any more time on them in favor of the game characters. It's why the easy options (Silver joining, low-tier missions, easy interactions) were completely avoided.
>>556426848>>556427069
>>556427247I like Sonamy and I wouldn't like that. I prefer Amy going on adventures with him.
>>556427307OOC. Scourge canonically has no problem with snogging multiple girls.
>>556427150>no "Tails is my Valentine" merchI'd be too much of a coward to wear it in public if it even existed, but it would still be nice to have.
>>556426930The classic Mario titles did wonders for Mario too, but let's be real. Both franchise understood that they needed to keep up with the general gaming climate, and that meant branching into new territory. Sonic couldn't survive on the Classic formula alone, and whatever contributions (while important) Classic made has been entirely eclipsed by the Modern brand. If it wasn't, we'd have a lot more Classic style titles like how Mario can still sell games like Wonder.
fuck windfags and fuck sonamyfags, here is a perfect ship
>>556426706Not really, Sonic transitioning to 3d was an inevitability and the Adventure games pulled it off really well, at least with the Sonic gameplay; but Sonic's shift to RPG style stories that is driven by characterization really didn't benefit the fanbase or the series in the long run. ST just wasn't (and isn't) equipped to handle this and never have been.
This whole thing where you have to read or watch entirely different media to understand the existence of certain characters or lore has been cancer and it's tragic that Sonic is suffering from it too.
>>556427708Only the games are in character so this isn't a problem
You can't outrun your Valentines, Sonic!
>>556427321Can they actually be shown doing romantic stuff together instead of behaving like friends?
>>556425934Why are you guys so mean
Why exactly did Ian think it would be "cruel" to have Sally still be interested in Sega's Sonic characterization? He said that's why he made her a lesbo. What did he mean by that?
>>556427463It’s okay, Tails still loves you
>>556427150>according to (merch) is isYou guys knows better than this
>>556428247Ian only thinks in endgames, not episodicness. So Sally liking Sonic for Sonic to never be able to reciprocate was not an option for him
>>556427572>ST just wasn't (and isn't) equipped to handle this and never have beenI agree with this.>>556428247Because he understands that Sonamy is the brand endgame. It's no different then playing a VN and know that while there are multiple dating routes and you may have your personal favorite, a good chunk of them do have a canon love interest.
>>556427253The NuDC are following a three act story structure and they(the team) are currently in their act 2 low point.It gets confusing because the act 2 low point of the team is overlapping the act 3s and act 2s of the individual characters that make up and interact with the team as well as the concurrent storylines in the comic that has a bunch of production issues.
>>556427150As a man I can't wear any of this. I can't wear the Amy shirt cuz its girly. I can't wear the Sonic is my valentine because then I'd be gay. Fuck this
https://files.catbox.moe/fcytdi.mp4
>>556428391>It’s just 2 throwaway lines in Frontiers. They won’t go anywhere>It’s just in the 4th movie. It’s not canon.>It’s just merch. Doesn’t mean it will happen in the gamesYou are here
>>556428680Green Hill Zone Act 2
>>556428784the 4th movie isn’t even out yet and we know nothing about it.Also I bet they’re gonna make Sonic the one who simps for Amy cause she’s le badass superpowerful gurlboss
>>556413749>>556414000This joke is retarded.>>>/co/152392919
>>556429484I think it's funny
>>556414453What is Whisper wearing?
>>556428048>Can they actually be shown doing romantic stuff together instead of behaving like friends?Like what?
>>556416469Uncropped?
>>556429484Because instead of: >"Love me 4ever?">"No...">Suicide >"... I wanted to say 5ever!"But:>"Love me 4ever?">"No, 5ever!">"That joke's so cringy that I'm outta here." Suicide Improves the punchline
>>556427498>MarioI'm of the opinion that the best 3D Sonic gameplay is found in Mario Sunshine. Sunshine was a jankass Mario game, which ironically made it feel like a Sonic game. lolBut also, Sonic can sell Classic style games still, it's just the Sonic fanbase right now doesn't like or appreciate Classic Sonic. But that makes sense due to Classic Sonic being dead for around 25 years, lol
SHADOW IS 50 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK!
>>556429946>I'm of the opinion that the best 3D Sonic gameplay is found in Mario Sunshine. Sunshine was a jankass Mario game, which ironically made it feel like a Sonic gamehttps://youtu.be/MRg3Pl2Wriw?si=CbIlCA4eODyvjPRe>>556430096He was in stasis for most of those.
>>556429783Going on dates
>>556428390He's too precious.
>>556430327They do that already though.
>>556428804Bridge Island Act Fruit
Boom did sonamy the best.>chaos controls away
How does Whisper see anything her eyes are closed all the time. She looks asian.
>>556409741Is your art still on DA as @Errantcringe or is there a better way to see your work?
>>556430958>How does Whisper see anything her eyes are closed all the time. She looks asian.Anime logic.
>>556430297 https://youtu.be/KW0Qu-X7mbI?si=POZrQb6UCxCyHMvn
>>556430958They’re not closed they’re just permanently squinting with tears
If you like it then it's in character. This series exists for your entertainment.
>>556430958Can confirm, trauma makes you squinty.
>>556431141I updated my username so it's consistent with my other accounts and the booru and I'm still a little miffed I had to pay to change my name but it does say you should be directed to my account if you still search that>>556431326words of a scholar
>>556428762What is this?
>>556428762For a fan thing its animated nicely, good eye movements, it felt tense, nice camera work, good voice acting.
>>556431654Sticks stole Thrash's backstory...
>>556431287She gonna get massive crows feet.>>556431364She was so happy, before the uuuuuu's
>>556430471They don’t. They need to start doing it though
>>556432210>They don’t>>556418964
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>556431553An animated adaptation of this iconic scene from IDW.
>>556429253It would pointless to not put romance in it. It’s not far fetched to think it will have romance. Sonic will use all the character development he had to win Amy’s love
>>556432427How could I ask for more?
>>556432496How would this work with Game Sonic?
>>556431654I hope this is porn.
>>556432378Well, then Sonic Team needs to do it in the games and other stories as well and Sonic Team needs to acknowledge them as dates explicitly.
>>556432675Would've worked better if Shadow wasn't blushing. He shouldn't be reciprocal.
>>556432675That style looks familiar. Which artist?
For Shadow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WI-afcUsdg
>>556432798>then Sonic Team needs to do it in the games>>556419502>>556419119
>>556432508Movies nowadays are chicken. There’s an overwhelming nu-sentiment that young kids shouldn’t have love stories anymore, or have explicit love tropes like kissing in children’s media. Just look at basically any cartoon or kid’s movie past COVID, like Zootopia. I definitely believe there will be a romance plot, but at best they’ll hold hands and then do a dance party ending, not even kiss. Same as they had to change Maria dying to a gun to a laser gun making a gas explosion.
>>556432875How are there two female characters who were made pedophiles by Ian
I can't spend another Valentine's day alone guys...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onidGbvHSb4
>>556431654Damn, Tikal is fine.
>>556433040You gotta go to conventions in cosplay, that way you can meet people
>>556433040but you have us, are we not good enough?
>>556432972He missed that date on accident. They need to go on uninterrupted dates
>>556433037..who was the other one?
https://youtu.be/0axFGAPWJNU?si=sX-qemNFYgCHwz_5
>>556433040What's the matter?Gonna>uuuuuuu about it?
>>556432695Game Sonic would bop her 8 times then clear the act, his points would total while he does his iconic pose, and then he would go to the next zone.
>>556432514Say her triggerword “Diamondcutters” 3 times without her consent
>>556432427>Whisper’s first voiceline
>>556433289oh it's three.>Barby agegap made canon thanks to Ian>Fiona flirts with underage Silver>Honey fanart making her act like a pedophile because of how he wrote her
Whisper voicelines leakedhttps://youtube.com/shorts/uPxXRCkHkbo
>>556432994They just need to say I love you each other and explicitly acknowledge each other as a couple. I do agree that it really sucks how sterile and neutered kids’ movies have become
>>556433679How long do you think it will take before Whisper's voice actress is harassed into saying uuuu.
>>556433863He wrote Honey fanboying over Sonic and not Tails, as usual. Tailsfags were just desperate for someone to love him after the reboot.
>>556433869Fuck, I laughed
I was at a currywurst shop recently and they sold chilidogs but they were out of buns so I couldn't get any
What are you up to, /sthg/?
>>556433869Fuckable
>>556403640Simple: Don't let Ian or Evan fucking touch them. Have a competent writer dedicated to giving characters, you know, characterization.Make Tangle the adventurous, brash, arrogant, but caring and cute tomboy she used to be. Make Whisper the quiet and reserved, but now open and healing mercenary she should be; don't make her healing too sudden, make it make sense.Keep the gay shit out, not because it's gay, but because otherwise it's all anybody fucking talks about with these characters.Let them exist separately, go on adventures, interact with the main cast, have moments people will actually look back on fondly 20 years from now. If they catch feelings, let it happen on its own. If they catch feelings for others, let it happen on its own.This alone would improve them tenfold.
>>556433037Honey just wanted to model him (which you know he secretly likes)
>>556433987> Honey>FanBOYing...oh
>>556434106Just finished drawing this
>>556434335sexo
>>556434335I always wonder if showing the pink part and not the nipples themselves is enough to be safe in a blue board. I really think depends on the mod because i feel like I got warnings/banned for less
>>556434106about to get some fruit to snack on
>>556434335Were you the one asking ideas few threads ago?
>>556433987>He wrote Honey fanboying over Sonic and not Tails, as usual
>>556433150There arent any conventions in my area worth going to until the summer. Maybe I'll go to SD ComicCon.>>556433250No, you guys are cool, it just sucks being at home on the Internet. Maybe I'll go to a bar and lurk /sthg/ from a booth.>>556433514No...
>>556433987The original Honey likes strong guys. Just because she's actually a nerd doesn't mean she likes other nerds. Guys like Sonic, Shadow, and Knuckles are more her speed.
>>556434671You seem gay anyway so you’ll always be unfulfilled. Take some antiparasitics to cure that
>>556434486Yeah, that was me. I did two of the requests so far, maybe I'll do the rest eventually>>556434473I've never had issues with it
>>556434798While you're correct Ian doesnt give a fuck about the real original Honey
>>556433987>He wrote Honey fanboying over Sonic and not Tails,Well yeah, she was looking forward to fighting Sonic, then she started making deals with his friends and smoothtalking Tails. Hard to know what'd be next for her if Archie continued, but she DID go on that date with Tails if that NewYears art is to be believed.
>>556434992Okay I don't give a fuck about him so whatevs.
>>556434473I got banned for cropped porn and that drawing of Bunnie giving Blaze a massage (twice)
>>556433528Kekaroo>>556432695Maybe he would've said what happens after he stops Eggman isn't his problem
>>556434262No one’s going to look fondly at Whisper, Tangle, Nite, and Don 20 years from now except the woke tourists in the fandom. IDW is doomed to die
>>556434896Nice.I'm waiting for the nuclear apocalypse, after Sage does what wargames 1987 warned us about.
>>556435032>then she started making deals with his friends and smoothtalking Tails.To get him to model her stuff. It's just business, bro.>but she DID go on that date with Tails if that NewYears art is to be believed.Guess Knuckles is gay and the Flicky's in a three-way going by your logic.
>>556435032>riding a ferris wheel with someone means they were on a date
>>556435032She was super excited to fight Sonic and glazed him constantly, and when Sonic beat her she ahegoed. She didn’t give one shit about easily beating Tails and ignored him afterwards, she only made fun of him by putting him in a sissy bow while bragging how she’s gonna get to be on TV with Sonic the Hedgehog.Sonic would cuck Tails just like last time.
>>556434262>Make Tangle the adventurous, brash, arrogant, but caring and cute tomboy she used to be. I was almost listening until you let your coom agenda mask slip. Being "cute" was never part of her characterization
>>556435275>Maybe he would've said what happens after he stops Eggman isn't his problemGame Sonic has tried to kill Eggman before. Dude just always survives and Sonic can't be bothered to make sure he's toast. He's reactive, not proactive.
>>556435291I don't get this reference, sorry
What fangame I should play right now?
>>556435346God I hate archie, and Ian.Like are you even reading the words you describe?
>>556435493Ultimate Sonic Flash
>>556435480I think when you use words like "tried" it implies more effort than he actually puts in, especially when pretty much all of it comes from early Classic where their dynamic was not solidified into what they say it is today (Eggman gives Sonic adventure, Sonic gives Eggman ambition)I don't know how Sonic would explain how he's reactive and not proactive without just... saying those exact words
>>556435337>Guess Knuckles is gayNah just Armadildo>Flicky's in a three-way going by your logic.The Flicky just flew in andmade a move just as the sovl left Tails' body.
Noone will ever forget “The Diamondcutters”
Is there no end to this cunt's reign of terror
>>556435485Sorry, I meant 1983>"What happens when you give the nuclear threat response to an AI?"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RRGvAB4HF8
>>556434262>Have a competent writer dedicated to giving characters, you know, characterization.THIS. It's so damn easy to write either of them, as well as Lanolin like this. But both Ian and Evan can't even to the bare minimum to ensure decent writing.
>>556433528He’s too powerful…
>>556435716No one will remember anything about IDW
>>556435740but why, theres already fictional countries in sonic
>>556434834Well, piggybacking off of that other anon, if only there were antiparasitics that removed the gay thoughts from my balls.
>>556435519Bro, you're malding over nothing. Chill.
>>556435774I guess I'll draw Sage firing a bunch of nukes
>>556436007>but why, there's already fictional countries in sonicBecause these are narcissist fucks who can't stand not making everything about them
>>556435705>Nah just ArmadildoWell, that's it for MightyxHoney.
>>556436102Try dewormer, it’ll remove the worms from your gutbiome that spur you to spread them
>>556436362Thanks, might put some panicking GUN officers and tech personnel in the background?
>>556435740Just you wait She'll move up the ladder and start fucking with the games. Just like Ian
>>556435740Fuck she-honkies, man. They ruin everything.
They suspended my nigga Knuckle Sandwich, the #1 dedicated Western Sonic media hater
>>556436743>>556436743>>556436743
>>556436542>dewormerI didn't realize dogs were posting on /sthg/.
>>556435435It's less her characterization and more just it happens from her being her.
>>556434580Who drew
>>556436746holy cringei'm glad you got banned
>>556423385
>>556436746this looks like an edgy 14yo account, why are you into that?
>>556433869>https://youtube.com/shorts/uPxXRCkHkboAI?
Im at the bottom of the thread uuuuu
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