The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>556752454>Nine (NEW) Character PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btU93p-ft0Mhttps://youtu.be/7-QM7H_EkXc>Balance Adjustments for Season 2https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11909138https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12011077>Roadmap Streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4>Dev notes 02/04https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12012929>Useful Links and Resourceshttps://rentry.org/xtb66f3ihttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant>Current Featured Banner[ Nine ] Order - VanguardRate Up Period: 02/04/2026 - 02/25/2026>Upcoming Featured BannersTiphera | Starts Feb25>Current/Upcoming EventsSpiral Tower of Screams (Beta)New Season - Seed of Karmic Fire | 02/04/2026 - 04/08/2026>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?Check the Rentry (Rentry is gone, create a new one)https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculatorhttps://czn-save-cal.web.app/
How do I build Nine and Orlea? Is there a guide somewhere?
>>556901325omg luche hi!!!!
>>556901325Holy shit Luche exists. Good mindbreak art.
>>556901478You want flash hew and cards that scale of exhaust for Nine.You want the upgrade that spawns one creature every turn and cards that apply vulnerability with Orlea.There are countless youtubers covering this team.
>>556901650>There are countless youtubers covering this teamI don't know which one to trust
I just found out about this game today. Is it worth playing? What do I need to know if I'm considering getting into it?
>>556901927its Slay the Spire / Chrono Ark but gacha with some Darkest Dungeon sprinklesthats itthats how it plays out and thats all you need to know
>>556901927If you like chrono ark/slay the spire you will probably like this game as well.
Orleabros post your Orlea build what meme frags and you're going for 700 atk or 300 defense?
>>556902185300 defense is way easier and way better for general chaos runs. HP% on 4th and 5th, def 6th.4 pc new set + 2 pc defence.
>>556902094>>556902123Never played Chrono Ark but I've got like 80 hours in Slay the Spire. The StS gameplay was what had me interested. Nothing else of note?
what's the strat for distortion 9 spirit, i feel like i can't output enough damage. is it just a stat/gear check?
>>556902484There's no strict pitfalls or anything, I guess 1 thing that drives people away from the game is that chaos runs (roguelike) are 30min-1hr and are the backbone for everything else in the game because you essentially make your decks from those runs. It's like using your final StS decks to do dailies/challenges and shit. If that sounds like your jam then you will like this game alot.
>>556901927>What do I need to know if I'm considering getting into it?This is a game where you build card decks trough the roguelike mode.You use the farmed card decks against challenge bosses.There are seasons that last 9 weeks and there is an intermission between seasons that lasts 3 weeks.You can use only decks farmed in the current season for event challenge bosses.That means once per 12 weeks you need to refarm your decks.Few people crashed out due to this so it's good to know going in.
how is Rin after the update?
>>556902349Why HP for 5th and not element?
>>556903974Orlea does no damage when you build her for defense.Her attack cards scale of attack.
DPS narja with chizuchu as support
>>556903553Nothing really changes, occasionally getting the extra mist stance helps but if you were already playing around it then you won't notice.
>>556905205Post your Narja deck
Who else coping with forgotten grave? I swear Harvest keep dodging me its been 3 days farming for 4 opening and harvest for my Beryl.
My nurse is broken, can anybody fix her?
>>556905620Here's my entire team's deck instead
This game isn't fair I don't have Orlea
>>556906868Your 300 standard pulls selector?
>>556903316there are plenty of videos on orlea + nine/beryl if you have them.as an alternative, you can try narja for sustain + 2 dps, preferably with multiple hits per turn to make use of voracity (e.g. tressa+hugo).ignore the reorganizes here (wrong epiphanies+just for cycling starting position faster). shackles+mealtime gives you 6 heals per turn + a big enough heal that surpasses the necrosis debuff. should make it quite a bit longer than setting up one-shots if your dps is low
>>556902484the dungeon run isnt that long, but it takes a fair amoutn of time if u play alotgood thing is you are not required to run it constantly, you can choose how much to play with it. only weekly mission with dungeon runs. no pressure on dailies, they are for quick mats farming
>do all this>never find the sporegutted
do potential upgrades count the atk/def gained from equipment?
Do I craft justice dmg executioner for my beryl or haru or craft %hp slot 5 for my rei/mika/niaAlso am I gonna be required to use mika if I want to do the deeper zero runs?
>>556912221the new set only works on exhaust so haru/beryl don't benefit unfortunately
>>556912364I'm talking about this thing btw
>>556912464oh , yea better to craft for your dps supports can just cope with whatever you happen to get from farming.
ded gaemded gen
It's joever it's nerfed
>>556915020>Nine lasted a week before nerfed into the groundKEKAROOO nice game cznbabs
>>556915020What is?
>>556912464I wouldn't craft right now if you're new. You should be getting your right slots (IV, V, VI) from chaos runs and when they drop 3 at a time.
>>556915419this
should I roll nine now??
>>556915020so that was a bug people showed, i never had it before, meh
>>556916141Never even knew this was a thing
>>556916432No she has been NERFED and is USELESS. Never roll for her she will BRICK your account and your entire future.
>>556915020Holy shit it only took them a week and not 2 weeks like what happened to Season 1 lgbt tunnel bug
>>556915146What nerf?
>>556916804ignore the gfl spammer, it's this bug>>556916141
>>556916432no dont roll. they just nerfed her into the ground LMAO.
>>556916432Yeah she is fun to use.
>choose Renoa with selector >realize I should have got Orlea if I have Nine but no Narja>get spooked by Orlea anywaynever punished!
>>556916432no they will just send us a 10 roll to apologize for the nerfs you dont even have to roll to be included for the apologems
>>556917656There's no way anyone is actually this butthurt about SG closing an obvious unintended case.
JK SEX!
>1 hour per post 1 week into s2All aboard for /vmg/
>>556915020oh shit!!! they nerfed sp->>>>>>lol
>>556915020>Still no skip copyFUCK
>>556916432desu Nine is really just nice to have chaos runs because she doesn't require anything to function decently, you can clear pretty much anything just manually casting Hew every turn with 100% consistency. Worth it just for having a strong dps that functions this consistently with no epiphany/dupes.All the big single hit shit is 95% Orlea, you get pretty much the same results from Beryl or even Chizuru.Considering that 90% of the game is farming chaos I think she's pretty worthwhile.
>Still no skip coyIs this not it?
>>556922981wtf since when did they hotfix it?
>>556922981>Complainers don't even play the gameMany such cases!
>>556923038Pretty sure this was ingame since 1.0 an it always worked.
>>556923276Didn't work a few days ago. You were forced to pick a card.
>>556901478WG:CZN youtube
>>556921293Cardboard gameplay sure is the ultimate filter huh
>>556915020link?
>>556901478For support Orlea you want to focus Softies, for Nine it depends on what Hew you're picking. Generic epiphanies on it are garbage so pick one of her five.
>>556922592but /czn/ said she will be losing half if not more of her DPS after season 2 is over
>>556923593I'm not talking about savedata content I'm saying she's strong in random chaos runs because she's consistent without any investment/buffs whatsoever. Just manually casting Hew every turn, nice for farming content.
>70 posts in 6 hoursThis game is not doing well at all, is it
what the FUCK
>>556926172There's one where she goes "I am the captain now" but I don't have the screencap on me
>>556926217Nine is extremely cold towards the captain during these
>>556926242She's a knower
>>556926134>measuring game popularity by 4chan postsretardGODby this retard logic im@s is more popular and alive than fucking fortnite
>>556926412I WISH
>>556926134Story rework will save /czn/ copium
>>556926134Sorry sis, not everyone that plays this game lives in Malaysia.
>>556926134Endfield flopping hard is disaster for us because of it this avatarfag coming back here
>>556926769kek I noticed that too
5.5 hours for Mewgenics bros...
>>556928161Who caresEdmund doesn't know what fun is anymore
>>556928161what is mewgenics
>>556926172you can let her bite you
post yours
>>556929214Where and how, I want to audit myself
>>556929427galactic medal in the event
what's your highest ego level on a 5*? mine is 3 and it's renoa, i'm holding out hoping they will buff the fuck out of her because she is mc waifu
>>556905726Rocket punch Beryl is way more fun than spores
>>556929214
>>556930161>stage-6BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>556930264>6anon that's 4...
>>556930315it's... 7.... 67.....
>>556929214Damn you guys went hard
>>556929214>>556929427>>556930161>>556930560I'm a fraud...
>>556930845disgusting
>>556929214I would love to play more becuase I'm loving this season but I'm too busy wagecucking, socializing and playing 3 runs of StS every day to git gud.
honestly, I'm glad they didn't go overboard buffing yuki's single target. she's already so dominant in aoe situations that if she got any better there wouldn't be any reason to play anyone else.
>>556931230Kappa
>>556931230Doomjeets ain't gonna like this post
does the discount work on full health?
I think Yuki needs a serious buff. Legit nobody is using her right now.
>>556931916dunno what that card meanswhat is recovering even?
>>556931230Nine with the aoe hew brutally mogs Yuki that it isn't even funny.Yuki has now no niche she excels at.
>>556926172SEX
>>556932030Means that effect activates when you actually recover health.
Here's todays patch btw, since no one linked ithttps://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12087889?boardKey=139238&combined=false
>>556931230Nine Hew Massacre is mogging Yuki entire kits
>>556932046She's excels at being the butt of the joke and looking like a retarded slut.
>>556932046Funny thing this season is that ALL multihit/cheap characters are barely functional due to defstacking or nukemode. Which includes Luke and Hugo on top of Yuki.
deadest gacha general on /vg/
is there even a way to get 100% crit?
I played so much Narja but still have no idea what cards to take
>>556933314Nope, crit substats maxroll at 2% so at most you're getting 8% crit per piece. 75% from fragments if you maxroll every piece into crit and max out the crit potential.
wish the game was on steam
>>556933531very much this we need it on steam
>>556933531>>556933641We don't want steamtrannies
>>556933314Only Rin can
>>556932139>>556915020
>>556933896>would rather have to use fucking stove
>>556933896Who is "we"?
Chorizo bros am I tripping or is she just not gaining Will-o-wisp stacks even after attacking?What is going on?
>>556934883how do you make a webm this small in file size but high qualtiy?
So what's an ideal nine setup to use with vuln+spore stacking on first turn nuke? before i was culling every card except for fighting spirit, but that just makes you waste vuln+spores trying to build up to the last level. I'm guessing the fatal strike that gets you up to last level is ideal but then you need to find a way to get it's cost down.
>>556935069For quality I check this option but it often makes the files bigger.
>>556934883Maybe it doesn't work with itself (since you used the card and a replication of the card). Have you tried any other attack card?
>>556935234you get it's cost down with spores because when you use spores it exhausts and every time you exhaust a card, the cost goes down 1orlea vuln + softie + sporenine extreme + fighting spirit + fatal strike that upgrades hew to highest levelrin for dmg +20% bonus from her e6 and some card draw, or you can use narja and her skill that gives +100% dmg to defense based attacks for one turn
>>556906014sex?
>>556907636>>556906553thanks
>>556935601oooh yeah that sounds perfect thanks man
>>556933491>>556933916this fucking sucks because renoa has this but you can never reach it then?
>>55693588460% is reachable (if you try hard enough)
>>556935946i will kill myself first
>>556935558It should, but it also doesn't trigger for any other card.I think they broke the Cursed Shackles debuff because it still works with Tsukuyomi.
>>556936032Yeah seems wrong.
>>556915020>>556932139Did they fix the wrong item descriptions?
>>556936149yeah every patch they fix some wacky translation (it used to say Extinction instead of Exhaust)for the most part they are fixing stuff a lot faster
what teams are you enjoying this season?
First boss of the new chaos keeps raping me
I got spooked by Chizuru. How do I build her? Am I suppose to be building her like a DPS?
>>556936452kek
>>556936452Is this effect permanent? It doesn't say "for 1 turn" unlike most things.
Everyone keeps saying there's no fanart for this game, but every time I look there is more fanart for this game.
>>556938535we are winning
>>556938535This .gif alone have more fan art than CZN
>>556938535same, there's a bunch on X. it's picking up. maybe.
I'm at the shop before the first boss, no epiphany mark on the card means I can safely kill the boss right?
>>556939254>ESL shitpostI don't need to say anything else.
>>556939254Licking Orlea's armpit.
I'm glad Dellang gets some fanart.
>>556940206JAJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
>>556931974corruption mode will save her by turning her into yet another single target dps
>>556931974>literally nothing in her own season shilled her>season 2 Chaos is shilling green>she's still shit, even after the buffsShe's literally just a humiliation ritual designed by 30% cheaper to extract everyone's apologibs. You're not supposed to actually use her.
Does this work with an upgrade card?
>>556940865No
>>556936970damn so no one is enjoying this season? fuck you
>>556940983Yeah, sorry bro, I'm not really enjoying it. Too much HP bloat in the higher difficulties and I am not rolling a character I don't want (Nine) just to make it easier.
>>556938535fanart? with those small tits? might as well not exist.
>>556936970for chaos clears, nine + narja + someone i want to make a deck forfor boss battles, i stick to the good ol' beryl retain machinegun spam
>>556940795>>556931974just give her multi hits. and i'm not talking about a dumb +1, make iceberg cost 0 and have an extra line of dmg per yuki card played that turn. have her ego do an extra hit per yuki card returned to hand. also add 1 extra card draw baseline to her draw card.
>>556915020I figured they would fix this bug, but I thought they'd at least make it so each card fully resolves before playing the next one. Now the fighting spirits are hitting nothing.
>>556936970Nine + Khalipe is fun. You can get good damage and lots of shield with a simple Hew use.
>>556929207>you can let her bite youWhy the fuck would you do that
>>556941492because khalipe is insane after the war and she needs to do that to regain her sanity
Beryl solo, you can setup her in one turn and just watch with a little work
I heard you were down bad.
>>556941916Build? Also, how important are her dupes? I only have E2.
>>556938535here you go bro i drew some bigger tits
>>556942156Now do the nip bumps.
>>556942008>I heard you were down bad.Someone post the screenshot please.
I have all 4*s and they're all ego 6.
>>556942039build?, it is just standard Beryl with 4 opening, also Mika with 1 water ball for the missing AP at first turn, you don’t need ego copies or even optimal arena bonus. But need 3 vine camouflage for extra turns
>>556942387Got it. Sankyuu.
get FUCKED Judas
>>556942008How do you even build renoa to do something significant?I understand her gimmicks but I don't really know if the tools to exploit her kit are in the game.You're meant to create a million dirge bullets and discard them for free damage, and at some point you can use nia's ego skill to flip your entire deck and machine gun your opponent. But then what? Then you have a 40 card deck with a bunch of useless bullets every turn that don't do enough while you're getting raped, it's not sustainable for long fights. She has one (1) epiphany on one (1) card that exhausts all her bullets on the graveyard but that's unreliable and impossible to set up because it doesn't have retain. Let alone the fact that if you exhaust the bullets then you can't do the deck flip attack.Has anyone here actually attempted building a team around her? I spent a while yesterday looking at her epiphanies and my whole hero collection and I just can't imagine how to exploit her.
>>556942387you only need 2 vine camos, because the third evade tick per turn is eaten by the 5% life hit per turn modifier anyways. vine camo is good in general though ofc.
>>556942657yes thats why she sucks and needs buffs
>>556942387>>556942702oh i'm retarded. you pass turn with beryl before the boss attacks. yeah you need three for sure in that case.
>>556942226here ya go. i should do my own czn fanart...
>>556942768I don't even know how you'd go around buffing her. The game's expected damage input has outgrown her capabilities. She could barely keep up with the nebula bosses from last season but now it's joever.
>>556942957maybe also deal dmg on drawing her bullets? i know its her last ego but it could be just her passive
>>556943036Even that wouldn't make her good. Fillling your deck with dogshit cards is the worst thing you could be doing in a card game because it makes your future draws feel like ass, that's why luke is many times better than her.>everything costs 0>if you don't use them for some reason, they exhaustI would at the very least make it so that bullets exhaust when discarded and rework her ego skill and parts of her kit. At least you'd have a character that produces infinite discard fodder for discard decks but doesn't clog your draw pile with trash.
I just lost 2 Nine chaos runs back to backI might have brain damage
>>556943354>Fillling your deck with dogshit cards is the worst thing you could be doing in a card gameSame thing happened to Kayron they fucking nerf his exhaust, back in the beta his exhaust card cost 0.
>>556940983I'm liking Nine with Narja, recently Orlea trying to get a decent spore deck in case it's needed for the leaderboard
>>556942248https://files.catbox.moe/zfw9u7.jpeg
>>556943790They should revert that, it makes no sense with the speed the game is going at. At least make it so that the base exhaust are 0 and make them cost 1 if you want when upgraded with the oath of vanity or something.But still, Kayron has some epiphanies where the fatalities self-exhaust and some of the cards also exhaust fatalities. And of course the cards do nothing so they're meant to get rid of. Nine has some exhaust card synergies so you can at least do something about that.You're meant to discard renoa's bullets, that's when they deal extra attack damge. But discarding them is negative value for your deck. She needs more combatants to enable her playstyle or a rework, right now she's impossible to use (besides playing with her because you like her, I'd respect that)
>>556943508get the Hew that give you shield and the upgrade that activate one Hew at the start of the turn, it help you to focus one character without worry
>>556944263>even cut screenshotted it before it printed the cold partThanks bro.
>>556942957If I were designing her Distortion effects, I'd make it so the usage effects of her Dirge Bullet cards change from just doing damage to having support effects, while still doing extra attacks when discarded. Maybe Ballad of Pitch Black can have its effect changed to "Change effects of all Dirge Bullets in hand to '+1 Morale for this turn' for the duration of this battle" with different Epiphanies doing different things like shields or healing. Then Instant Judgment and Last Ditch Assault can be changed to activate Dirge Bullets instead of discarding them, with Assault gaining Retain. Still sounds a bit wonky, but making her a support DPS instead of a pure selfish DPS would help her out (and also make more sense for her role in the story).
>>556940983the only team this season is nine veronica narja.
>>556944415what are you supposed to do on turns where you auto activate the last level of hew and don't get a hew that turn? honestly it's the worst part about nine atm. it should cycle from the last card back into level 1
>>556940983For max difficulty Nine, Vero and Narja this season brain dead compFor comfy Diff 8 deck farming bring Nine as the dog walker+Mika/Narja+the dog(character that you want to farm)
>>556946526that is the only part of her gameplay that has nuance and you want to drool on yourself instead.
>>556940983Nine, narja and magna for shieldmaxxing and aoe counter, comfy for tower climbing until the boss start slapping you for bajillion damageim also trying to run Nine and Narja with 1 DPS char.Sereniel and Luke fits Nine's ignition hew build perfectly. Milin, not so much synergy, but narja has epiphany for her. Rin would need the spore cards, and more set up for her, kind of a hassle. Haru doesnt have synergy either, she can atleast use the items and upgrade for 2+card cost
>make Exhaust Spore Beryl deckWelp, never gotta worry about this dude ever again.
>>556947790>Exhaust Spore Beryl deckis this a legit thing or just an anti-judas meme
>>556947790this has always been the way to deal with judas bruhi had the beryl - rei - khalipe deck to deal with him since the beginning
SEX with this creature when?
>>556947910Might just be an anti-Judas meme. Haven't tried using it against the nebula boss yet, but Beryl's a mounted turret when it gets going. The downside is it chokes out everyone else's cards so you have now way to sustain against enemy attacks besides hoping you kill them fast enough.>>556948068True, but what the nice thing about spores is that they fill your hand much faster than Heavy Weapons Specialist, and you can exhaust a few of them at a time and use a Charged Shot to deal massive damage in one chunk, then still have a full hand before her extra attacks go off. Before I was always worried about whether Beryl could ramp up fast enough to kill Judas before dying, now it's effortless.
>>556948507mounting beryl...
>>556948253five weeks or so
>they/them/theirwhy are tranny localizers like thatwhy the fuck do I have to read that shit all the time, they seperate the genders in the main story, so why not everywhere else
>Chizuru no longer can gain WilloWisp stacksNice fucking patch devs, very cool
>>556948703why does it matter
>>556948703For my partner, I don't want her to get offended so I ask the dev to make Protos a non-binary person
>>556947910I don't know how to do it but can get a hand full of spores and that's worth 6000% extra attack
>still shitputting her back in her cat home till next season
>>556948253NeverProtos is and will forever be a virginBest he can do is *gulp*
>>556948253Hot take ai artist anon make better art than this>>556938535
>>556945531The first step should be having a combatant that has an upgrade card that benefits from "discarding with a card effect" in particular. "When you discard with a card effect, do X". You want renoa to be part of a team that provides a play pattern of actively discarding her bullets instead of just generating bullshitbullets.dek and clicking end turn because that's both boring and lackluster.That's why I proposed adding an effect that "exhaust cards when they're discarded by card effect". You could (since exhasuting your cards can be considered a drawback) give it an upside. So by pairing both characters together you have three upsides and no downsides. Such an effect is better saved for an epiphany path of a more generic effect to not railroad a full combatant design into a locked archetpye.Vote me for the czn design team. I'll save the game.
>>556947910real deck
>>556949208 (me)i think this one is not possible because of the divine epi but just change it to a normal epi that gives 1 morale and it's viable, you will nuke every single thing in the game until they nerf beryl
What do I use in 2/2/2 builds after black wing and executioner's tool? Tetra? Seth? Healer?Also, is Seth even worth it?
>>556948253Not soon enough. https://files.catbox.moe/ne9f3e.jpg
>>556947790I somehow have horrible luck and only got 1 opening found copy but still managed to easily kill him. 10k a turn without doing anything is so good.
>>556948832I guess when you are younger it doesn't affect you that much since language devolved harshly in the last 10-15 years and it was forced for shit like >>556948842I care because it sounds bad, it's slop behavior. You wouldn't they them your mother or father
>>556949827who is veronica in your team? if she is there just to draw other combatants' cards then why do you need dmg on her? if she is your sub dps, i'd say the passion dmg set + crit 2
>>556949837God, areola peeking makes me so fucking hard.
>>556949827The passion set is now good again for her, so i really recommend going for that instead of the 2/2/2. But if you really want to do 2/2/2 just ignore the last 2 set and try to get good stats of crit and extra damage.
>>556949837that's sfw i posted it before
>>556950835I've been banned for "NSFW" before for images that are 100% clothed, so I don't take any chances. Areola peeking would be NSFW if I posted it.
>even at lvl 70, the moment the goo hits 3rd form he just slaps me for 1500 dmg resulting in instakillsWhat the fuck is this retarded shit?
>>556948887She's actually pretty good right now for chaos at least. Especially in the seasonal chaos because there's so many group fights. Big blocks, stacks vuln, and aoe. Not great for boss fights though is a problem.
Creating a Rei deck for my Nine. Which one am I suppose to take?
>>556951036who tf is goo? you mean the last boss in burning life? stop spamming attacks and only use nine's hew
found the biggest maribell enjoyerhttps://www.pixiv.net/en/users/122997269
>>556951237think for yourself
>>556951237here u go anon
>>556951540Thanks
What the fuck Rei you can't do him dirty like that
the buff applies to everyone or just her?
>>556951661everyone
>>556951802>>556951540do these two with Nine clear 9/9?
>>556952089sadly no because rei's healing from the snack time kill you so fastmaybe you could try to use the immunity eq and the arcane rush card that gives 2 immunity? but it's such a weird way going about it... just use beryl/rei/nine for the cheese
>only have unbuilt Haru as a low hit high dmg dealer>Khalipe does too little st dmg>everyone else is a multihit-spam char>just build a deck bro
>>556952089Necrosis will rape you if you play snack time so Rei is a no no.You can only heal with passive effects (like voracity from Narja).Hit the boss with nine first, then use shackles to heal as much as you can. If you can do that every turn then great.
>>556952814actually you could also heal with rei's attacks i think? dps rei meta starts now
>>556952583you can build a fine deck in the seasonal chaos with Distortion Adaptation turned on while you grind the upgrade mats daily
>>556952892Rei has a passive that heals you when she attacks iirc so if you use Predator's Blade she'll heal you once. But if you use her basics (they heal you on the card text) you'll be healed by card effect so necrosis will trigger.
>>556952583Sereniel still works fine everywhere though?
>>556953095oh my bruh that's crazy... they really made it so you either use narja or you kill the boss before it kills you
>>556953152No, she generate hits that leads the shitter to nuke you faster. Or makes some other faggots immune to dmg.
>>556953180Use fucking ironclad on nine
>>556953387Works on my machine
>>556953638I don't want to pull Nine.
>>556953638https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCbreN-qRTw
>Refund Cassius and invest in Orlea>First run with her is already looking absurdAny regret I had is now gone.
>>556953985You love to see it.
fishing for a specific divine epi is ass cancer
>>556952906>adaptation chars get better gear than i haveIt's fuckign over for me.
>>556953771STOP DOING THAT
How do I go back to lab 0
>>556955693Merge it like other chaos worlds.
Last dupe event. Which one do I want? I already have 2 Will of Lights and 2 Growing Creatures.Diff XI was a fucking joke with this deck.
>>556956867growing creature
Do I?
>>556958094delete your account?
>>556958094yes
>>556958094Forgot pic
I wish I would have gotten Chizu chu instead.
How long will it take them to fix translation or at least make certain effects like damage boosts more clear?Its been ages and there is still issues popping up.
i accidentally deleted the fucking Hew, trying to figure out why i didn't pull it for 3 fights
>>556957201Thanks. It's a shame this run didn't want to give me good accessories (Nine ended the run with an empty slot) and I'm not sure the sword actually helps on Orlea, but aside from that I don't think I can ask for much better.
>>556958673lmao
>>556955693you have to disable the current season's modifier then it spawns randomly
>tier 14 mapgod dammit, i only get support seeded runs on dps maps
https://youtu.be/3eQyvX0yeJ0Beryl and orlea nerfs incoming
>>556960579Nooooooooo I was gatekeeping this comboit still gets fucked by Elascity
>>556960579i don't know about anyone else but stuff like this to me is really demotivating. i'm not even playing the same game as this guy literally why am i wasting my time
cool combatant that uses your health to deal more dmg, wake up czn creators!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>556961942it would take you three runs to copy his setup. were you just born a bitch?
>>556952583>unbuilt HaruJust use the damn Combo Anchor and hit for 4k every time, it's not that complicated nigga
>>556962214It is if you don't have megagear.
>>556961942Just do a few chaos runs for Beryl and Orlea.
>>556962027>>556962557yeah bro copying stuff that someone else thought of first is really fun and cool
I thought of every cool combo that exists in the game already. You can no longer have fun with the game.
>>556960579Damn, I hadn't even considered that Orlea's "trigger retain" cards could work on Beryl. Yeah, Beryl's extra attack strat is one thing since you can't really boost the damage much, but I'm expecting them to cap the amount of extra hits Opening Found can get.
>>556962724May as off yourself then, you'll never have an original idea in your life.
>>556962843please forget them
>Event that rewards you for using stamina>Already used all my Tears of God building Nine
>orlea>complete trash>new season>suddenly the best CZNhow did that happen
>another useless fucking run because 6 visits to the store + countless resets didn't give me the fucking card a needed KILL ALL GOOKNIGGERS
>>556963337retard
>>556963337Deserved for abusing spores.
>>556963215She was a support tailor-made for a character that didn't exist. Now that character does exist. Same thing happened with Selena in regards to Sereniel. It'll happen to Amir, too (she already has that one combo, but it's really niche).It'll never happen to Owen though because I have no fucking clue what his game plan is supposed to be.
>>556963215I mean it's like Selena last season. Also she got buffed.
Does this work on everyone's cards or just Narja's?
>>556963660It doesn't say next own card so I assume it's any attack card
>>556962845This was something that existed since season 0, it was just buffed dramatically with the new spore cards.
>>556963215They released a broken neutral card.
>>556962948awful example. the point of a life isn't to have "original ideas". but if you and another guy were both given the same exact puzzle with the same exact pieces and he finished completely when you were still putting all the edge pieces together you wouldn't think "damn i must suck at puzzles"?
>>556963509>OwenHe's already good with Nine though
>>556963215She has always been good, as an AMP unit with Softie and Vuln, she was just compared to Mika because her heals were cope in Chaos and there were a lot of multihit/1 cost DPS which prefers Rei (also her creation cards filtered a lot of people in season 0)
>>556964456Why would I choose to play this over my 4 copies of Fighting Spirit
>>556964424Comparison is theft of joy, its an online game, you're literally comparing yourself with millions
>>556962845I've been running this shit since week 1, Its already cucked by Elasticity pls no
I wish they would give out standard selectors, I have literally everyone in the game except for Orlea and Magna.
>>556961943HP scaling shill is bound to happen, this is 30% hoyoslop after all, though it might be either be wacky or broken as fuck with the whole team sharing the HP bar
>>556965315use the hp of your team and buff your one attack and then explode with that one attack that heals you a lot
Orlea E2 or Rin E2?
>>556965427
>>556965158Same but Renoa, Veronica and Luke. I don't really care about Luke but I would like our canon wife and the pot of greed on steroids.
>>556965853Orlea powerspikes are in E4/E6, I'd save or just pick with your d*ck
>the next DPS is justice tick tock Beryl fags you're next
>>556966352i thought she was a control unit
>>556966301did you say d*ck or d*ck
>>556960579how do I get spore harvester
>>556966605You have to raise your exploration level in the seasonal chaos first.
>>556966352Tip is just going to make Beryl even better.
>>556966990when are we getting the preview? 2 weeks before right?
>>556966352Tiphera is a support though.
>>556965935
>>556966990will we be able to see her panties or no
>get this on a divine runAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>556967372No she will go commando
>>556963215If you didn't build her at her worst, you don't deserve her at her best
>>556968298i used her at the start of the game as an attacker with a swiftie build
Divine, 4 agony to the target
I can't 9/9....
>>556968553your beryl?
>>556968553Your Nine/Nine?
>>556968553bring an extra damage dealer and spec Nine for Ironclad, no need to bother juggling spores
I see so many "god saves" made worse by having 4 copies of cards that don't need 4 copies.You don't always want to 4x a character's best card just because RNG allows you to. Especially on supports.
>>556969143copylet cope
>>556968553brute force it with Nine i did it with Vero and Mika with no external buffs, surely you didn't skip Nine right?
>>556967669wow, extra AP on Yuki? that's insane changes everything.
Is it even possible to get 4 copies right now?
>>556970225yes, very easily
>>556968298Anon I... still don't have her :(
>>556970095That's her best subdue you pillock
yes?
>>556970413>1 from copy event>2 from bosses4th doko
>>556967669WHY DOESN'T THIS HAPPEN ON MY NORMAL RUNS AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>556970532The original card.
>>556970716this, lol
>>556970716I meant the other type of copy.
>>556963215The real test is on leaderboard, people can clear 9/9 with meme buid.
>>556970890??1st original card > copy > 2 cards > copy > 3 cards > copy > 4 cards
>>556970890Event, I think there is two of for this chaos as well.
Nine should easily carry Sereniel through the event chaos, right? I wanna get a god deck for her since I haven't really tried after the changes.
>>556968070I love this one. What a goober
>>556971102Since you don’t understand, then can you get a 5th copy so you can get the 4/4 copies next to the faint memories and removals in the menu.
>>556970694>this save on a Kyrken runShit's painful man
>>556971175Nine literally carries the seasonal chaos by herself. And if you also have narja you're invincible on difficulty 8 with deck level 14 modifiers. You'll be fine.
>>556971175If you want Nine to be the dog Walker get her Hew (ironclad) version, I don't know what the fuck is going on with this game math she could get 400 shield and solo everything.
waitI only got Orlea recently so only got this event nowso the "be a good cutie" poster is even more canonic then it looked
>>556971516Man...
>>556971175why would you want to use brickreniel over the new best character in the game
>>556972359Just do it again outside :)
>>556971175sereniel can do it herself at diff 8 and lower without any problems. nine isnt a great babysitter for harder runs because unless you hit the counterblade autoplay pipis her deck needs copies to be good, while sereniel's deck is good with zero edits.
>>556964756You can play both
>>556973174How are people getting so many quad copy thin decks like this?
>>556973330it's incredibly easy in this event chaos>>556973174this kinda sucks because i heard these dont stack?
>>556972824You could probably win most diff 8 runs by just playing Ironclad Hew every turn
>>556973330It's insanely easy with the new upgrades
>>556973456Not for 1 attack, yes. But you still can use 4 of them and next 4 attacks will be 2-hitter
why am I getting bombarded with this shit now it just keeps coming back
>>556973940Same, I just closed the fucking client. Nuke the gooks.
>get the correct divine epiphany on the correct card before the exterior boss>get the copy event in the interior>it's insanely easy bro trust
anyone else having an issue where chizuru's cursed shackles just aren't working when im trying to farm memory frags.
>>556974260>>556934883>>556936032
>>556974334fuck. i was looking forward to making a good deck for her... apology rolls when.
holy shit i didn't sign up to do this much fucking reading
>>556975228We're only 3 months in, bro. Wait until we're 3 years in.
FUCK what do I pick for Sereniel?
>>556974614You can still farm decks, they'll probaly fix the cards later
>>556975390the crown, you keep the enchant
>>556975228as long as it never reaches this point
>>556975448I'm retarded and can't read, thanks.
>>556975358Damn only 3-4 months, feels like longer with everything that has happened.
>need EXACTLY draw 1 divine epi on EXACTLY +1 wave source>need EXACTLY -1 cost OR +1 ap on another character's cardLow tier life is suffering but I will keep trying to make it work...
>>556975472no frickin wayis this realwhat game is this
>>556973940I closed it and now I can't get back in.
>>556975808it's real, fire emblem heroes
>>556975847>>556973940I hhave the same issue i just tried reinstalling it on another ssd and still got the same problemyou guys canadians by any chance?
Aw fuck, I just realized I still haven't unlocked difficulty 11 in the Zero System so I can't do Divine Intervention yet. Well, time to grind the swamp.
>>556976062No bro I'm in Africa it's just Smilegooks that need to fix their game.
>>556976062it must be a problem with the Stove servers
Would 4 copies of this homing laser be too much? I could copy one of the other cards instead, not sure which would be better.
>>556976230great so i uninstalled my game for no reason ugh i don't even remember my login
>>556976062Stove is just a piece of shit, both the website and the launcher. I wish this game was on Steam or something, because I have this same problem where that shit can randomly pop up even while I'm actively playing the game. America.
>>556976410plasma missile > plasma missile > laser > laser > break > laser > laser > laser > laser > laser > laser > win?
>>556975472The worst part is that the effects are pretty simple but it has to specifically mention each and every effect it ignores or is affected by separately. It's like it's trying to avoid rules lawyering in a game where the computer resolves effects automatically.
does this discount if you heal on full hp?
>>556942657>Has anyone here actually attempted building a team around her?It's not that hard.Renoa and Nia, and then Rei or CassiusBuilt properly when you use Nia's ult it should do 50k+ and finish whatever you're doing, or at least very nearly. So>But then what?Is a pointless question. You also have Renoa's own ult.As of Sereniel and Nine she's been power crept like every other DPS but she's hardly the worst. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wMEmphjsnY
great so i'm going to lose my loginstreak because smilegate can't get their fucking pc client to not break, fuck the gooks
Let me in !!!!!!!!
Huh, did we eos already?I can't log in.
>>556977369>>556977243>>556977189holy shit I did my dailies like 1 hour ago, lucky
>>556976602it's only recover if you actually heal
>>556976602Nope
>>556977739>>556977854ty
>>556976661>When built properlyYeah, just do this. Easy peasy.
>>556978054still easier to make than kayron
>>556975808Its real, but 80-90% of the words are descriptions for mechanics that are forced into every skill causing a bloated word count.You could probably shrink it all down to a few sentences at most but the devs are kinda dumb.
>>556977243>EoSnice game gookbabs
hey guys, noob here, waiting for answers on other sites was taking too long so forgive me for this triple question post but:1. Do I spam the seasonal chaos or zero system chaos for Chaos Architect currency (for upgrading the zero system) I didnt farm it like everyone else so i cant unlock the duplications upgrade2.Whose good for survivabiltiy? cuz im dying way more than i did last season, mika and orlea feel like im living by the skin of my teeth3. should i pull nine? people keep saying she solos which sounds like it could help for my dying ass
>>5569786491) either works2) level up your stats in zero system, and maybe use a shielder like amir, she'll be powered up to 58 with gear and pots even if you haven't touched her at all3) she is the best character in the game right now and probably iwll be good later too and clears this chaos with her eyes closed
Stopped getting the retarded stove error, get in bwos
>>556978649what level chaos are you doing bwo?
>>556942657she's too clunky to optimize since she needs dupes on her bullet generating cards but then can't use them for the damage buff card.I tried going with both last season and it feels like you really need the epiphany in the pic badly but without echo or flower dupes it takes forever to generate bullets.Honestly I feel like she's too much of a hassle to even use, now that beryl can get a nearly perfect loadout easily+spore, and is just an outright upgrade with the same team dps/nia/rei.for the same time it takes to loadup your deck with bullets you could just search through everything use up 4 beryl retain upgrade and do 25-35k a turn from 40 retain attacks.
>>556978649secret tech to level your zero system>max 1>reset with chaos orbs>max 2>reset with chaos orbs>max 3>reset with chaos orbs>level the nodes you want
>>556978350Even Yuki would shred with those numbers and that amount of setup. At that point everything works (Kayron included) and it stops being about what you're doing to win.
>>556979167its over for me... the gooks took my money and now shut me off.(;へ:)
gooks just need to put it on steam
>>556976410Ended up meditating to get at least one of t he destroy lasers, pretty damn nice equips too, definitely my best deck so far.
>>556978649whichever, seasonal chaos is free, codex needs reroll orbs or money to spawn new worlds, gets pricey if you're dying a lotfor the seasonal chaos turn on Distortion Adaptation or what's it called, and bring a vanguard, Amir deals tons of damage but doesn't shield all that much, pair her with Maribel and you can clear diff 8 on campfire heals aloneNine is very good yeah but she's still the first of 3 in the season, and she's so good they will most likely counter for the sticker leaderboards, but you'll be running this chaos for a very long time so pulling her is a pretty safe bet until next season just to have a carry to build decks with
Does the effects from Arena increase Save Data? Holy fuck, this piece of shit just bricked one of my best decks.
>be retarded>blame the game
>>556980089yup and the god hammer at the end of floor 2
>Nihlium's triple hit boon card on shelling ballista and Yuki in generalFucked up how she's only fun and hits hard in a mode where I'm not grinding for her deck
>>55698008910 per enchantment
>>556980230>>556980327Fucking gook niggers.
I'm too stupid to build decks that interact
>>556978649>3. should i pull nine?I dislike Nine's design, I do not want to pull her, and even I'm considering pulling her because she'd probably make the entire rest of the season easy mode.
>>556979747Check your task manager and close any extra stove clients. You probably have several if you've been "closing" and re-opening them.
>>556980834doesn't work
Why does every mob just remove 3/4 of your hp on every hit now
>>556980734>I dislike Nine's designso gay
>>556981428maybe stop doing difficulty 9+
>>556981483She just looks like a ZZZ reject to me. Plus, her armpits are still censored, and as a pitchad I cannot condone that behavior.
>>556981428Every design decision makes sense when you remember that it's all to shill their new character. The extra damage is supposed to make shielding better.
>>556978983>>556980034hmn... okay ill try playing with amir for a bit and then maybe pull nine, i kinda wanted to wait for a agony/dot character cuz teressa was dear to me but oh wells i got my 50/50 guranteed. ty for the advice!>>556979662yeee i know about that trick but i still dont have enough to get the last node for duplicate choosings, im at like 1227 max acquisitions of the currency>>556979331I did level 7 and got owned (was running mika/serenial/teressa cuz i wanted to test teressa out after the nerf) then i did 6 and got owned again >>556980734same basically
>failed two runs alreadyI feel like a poser
>preview shows me I will survive the monster's attack>it kills me anyway
>>556981428Sounds like someone didn't pull the shill unit. They learned their lesson from Yuki (planned bad unit), Chizuru (accidentally bad unit), Tressa, Cassius, the leaderboard, and Lab 0. Now, everything will be done to shill the banner unit(s).
Do you prefer Yuki “shilling” or Nine shilling?
>>556980834already did tht its not a client issue its server side i've even manually uninstalled and deleted the caches. its working now so its definitely a stove serverside issue
>>556982023It's Vine Lord, isn't it>>556982134"oh everyone who isn't Mika can now heal, we can safely bump up enemy HP now"I guarantee you that's what their thought process was
>>556980834>It worked.Thanks, bro.
>>556982297No, the piece of shit from Nebula. Although it happened with other enemies too.
>>556982297>"oh everyone who isn't Mika can now heal, we can safely bump up enemy HP now">I guarantee you that's what their thought process wasActually, I think the thought process was more like "we'll buff the units so that the players will praise us, there will be pages of balance adjustments, but then we'll slip in one single line saying 'enemy hp above level 61 has been increased' so that they wont notice the buffs aren't actually real buffs, and actually the entire thing was a ruse to indirectly nerf the Limited unit we released even though we told the players there would be no Limited units"
level up your healer's basic/unique card potentials. They are in fact useful if your ass is getting beat
so how long till they release someone to powercreep Beryl
>>556980306>Nihlium's triple hit boonNow try that with Nine or Sereniel (cards other than lasers). It's fucking carnage.
>>556983305Beryl will be gutted next season when she performs too good in the sticker competition
Does Chizuru still prefer the basic spam build or is stacking shadow of the moon more viable now
>>556983820It was always viable.It's even stronger now.
>>556983820both viable. She can play subdps or main as well.
>Nine can destroy a whole city in a single slash>Struggles against weak rando chaos mobs and a couple lizard dudes with pointy sticksThis story was weird.
when are we getting more standard gibs?I'm 10 away from pity
>>556985435tomorrow, because of the connection issues some ppl just had
>>556986480Also Chizuru being unusable.
Copy event... DOKO...
>>556987225you have 3 copies bwo
>Everyone but RenoaKind of funny
>>556987225You only need 3 Fighting Spirits anyways.
>>556987770
Will Renoa ever recover from the cuckening she was subjected to by Yuki?
do we know what exactly tipheria is?
>>556989445YeaShe's my wife
>>556989445will probably be announced tomorrow or the day after
>>556989645>>556989670okay because of the event i figured i'd farm beforehand for her potential and level up
>>556989445Mesugaki coded
i finally did it (wasn't trying hard actually)
>>556989445Justice Striker. It came to me in a dream.
>>556990879> Narja MVP>Not Nine
>>556989445She's exhausting
>>556991858in bed
>take mei lin to chaos to build a deck>she is just watching while Nine does the work
>>556992171
>>556991075Justice Hunter, I'm afraid
>install the game on my ipad>it immediately crashes upon combat>change it to low settings>it crashes after 30 seconds of gameplayi know it's a bit old but c'mon
>>556992601So that's why there is that one random neutral bullet card.
>wonder why my characters hit like a wet noodle sometimes>it's the food buff wearing offI never cared about the Cafe before but it really helped this season.
This thing doesn't work in the Nebula, does it?
>>556994649shouldn't
are there any neutral cards that would be good on her? sadly no 3rd copy event
>try to farm Orela deck>game seduces you with another option everytimethis is the forth, i will never build that lazy hag
>>556995491I know that feel
>>556994197Food buffs are cringe
okay but why does leveling potentials actually take 2 weeks
>>557001443gacha games have to inflate the training investment of units, they are too scared to let you max them out in one week in fear you will leave.
>>557001443>okay but why does leveling potentials actually take 2 weeksso you have to keep logging in, that's the whole point. this is literally the norm for any live service game, not just gachas.
Is there a way to get more of these? 70-80 per run is fucking miserable.
I'm gonna do it, sorry Rin hopefully I get you eventually
This is fun until the game fucking discards Hew at the start of the round
>>557002519If you obtain one of the males before Rin, your account will be cursed forever.
>>557002610>Right after this>Get to layer 1 boss >Hew gets discarded>DieAlright buddy
>>557002610>>557003440Never do Neglect runs bwi. That shit will always brick you.
>>557003731I thought I was hardcore, all I got was the cuck chair with everyone getting raped
>>557003731Sereniel is safe to Neglect.
>>557004545E2+ Sereniel I agree, I wouldn't risk it below that.
So what Narja builds are people bringing to Nebula? So far what I've made for her end up being a mess in practice. Also, does the Shackles Epi that reduces Voracity to power up the next attack work for other characters, or just Narja? Because I didn't really notice its effect.
>High save data on easy modifiersNiceu
>>557006469The game thinks that Anxiety is more of a problem than it really is, especially now that all the Controllers had their healing buffed.
>>557006392i used narja with removed mealtime because the healing from it deals dmg to you and just spammed bottomless hunger + shackles of hunger for some cost decrease and healing from voracity
>>557006392Bring a pure voracity generating build, since you can still heal off voracity stacks without getting the necrosis punish.That Epi is only really usable for a big multihit attack like Chizuru/Mei lin imo but I would still take others over it.
>>557006881>>557006704Sounds like I was trying to get too fancy. I'll focus on just having her generate and consume her own Voracity, then.
Does this apply for anyone activating a 3 cost, or is it only for the character who has this buff and activates a 3 cost?
waow... the quietest it's ever been...
>>557010017
>>557010473i wanna sleep too. ..... but work......
I lost my Nine 50/50 to Narja E1, how is she supposed to be built?
normal epiphany all cardsadd and remove 5 rare+ neutralsmax copies of legendary cardreplace missing epiphanies with neutrals if necessary
>>557013562quite flexibleVoluntary control, the 2 upgrade epiphanies are for sereniel and meilin, others are general useBottomless hunger, II epi is for general use. I and III are for multi hit spamDomain of voracity, I and II epi for Nine. otherwise V for thinning deckShackle of hunger, I for general use, V for shield spam
>>556975472KANTOOOOOOOOOOO
You know, on the bright side, she can only be useless two more times
>>556971175>he's building the powercrept "limited"lol just move on already and roll for 9
>>556987770>Everyone but RenoaSame, ironic since she was the first 5* I ever rolled before I started rerolling
Great fucking job Smilegooks!I sure wanted to know what AP means in this description.
will she be a buffer or a dmg dealer
any reason to do the highest difficulty more than once? also does it give you all the lower difficulty rewards?
>>557023191I'm tripping I swear on day 1 we could click on that bold text and it show us what's charged spike and etc. After the bug fix somehow it doesn't work
is EVERYONE abusing beryl now or what??
>>556901325She looks so ugly here
>>557023998The other ones work fine, its just charged spike and I think one of the other arena cards I forgot.
>>557023506All we have to go on right now is circumstantial. She'll probably be Justice and rely on exhaust going by the memory fragments they added, and she might be a ranger since there hasn't been one added since launch and her cape looks like it might shoot lasers. But that's it.
>>557024059We already abusing her since day 1 instead of spore we use bullet card from shopSeason 2 just make it easier, I'm glad she is on the chopping block for Season 3 together with Orlea but Orlea have alter version so probably they're going to split her kits to half.
>>557024059Beryl was one of those characters that was an absolute nightmare to get a good deck for before, but the QoL changes and Exhaust Spores make it really easy to build her now.
>>557024187>>557024305Just get her retain shots and remove her cards? is that all she need?
>>557024443Hell you actually don't need her retain charge shot card. >get 4 opening>snack and that card that give you free charge shot cardRemove the rest
>>557024443Her retain build requires epi 5 on Opening Found, as many dupes as you can get, and Spore Harvester. Nothing else matters.Her stronger build's a bit more complicated to set up, but you need epi 1 or 3 on Opening Found, Epi 3 on Unlimited Firepower, and epi 4 on Guilty Pleasure. Dupe that Guilty Pleasure as much as you can. You also need Orlea with epi 1 on Growth Accelerator with dupes, epi 3 on Growing Creature, and Spore Harvester on either one (or on the third member, preferably Nia or Veronica to draw everything). It's harder to set up, but it scales much, much higher.
>>557024059well she's getting lobotomized like Tressa come s3
>>557025732Honestly, the fact that she's using a seasonal card to enable her bullshit means she may be safe from the chopping block since you won't be able to use it in the next season anyway. Beryl's bullshit's existed from the beginning and everyone already knew about her retain strat, but instead of nerfing her in the last update they buffed her.
Beryl ruined this game
>>557025902Simple fix for Beryl 1 opening only trigger 1 retain card
>>557024059Wait, Beryl is good now? Fuck yeah, she's one of my favorites.
>>557025646Is there a good way to to target Spore Harvester during a run?
>Wait, Beryl is good now?tf you mean """now"""? were you in a coma for the past 3 months?
>>557027151it will appear in the options to get neutral cards in events. u can skip it it doesnt show up. otherwise, just cycle shop and use training option at camp
>>557027237Pretty much.
Nine and Narja is the best dogwalker now?
>>557025902Her retain strat didn't matter before because she wasn't the BIS for previous season, she may very well be now
>>557025732No she's not lmao. The interaction with spores is nothing more than just getting their hand filled with retain cards for a faster ramp-up. This isn't a Tressa/Cassius situation where they do infinite damage with zero downtime.
I don't play beryl, how much damage is her machinegun shit actually doing and is it better than Nine with orlea
>>557027567Yes, but ironically stress can fuck you over. Keep an eye on it, if you enter an elite node or a boss fight with very high stress, you can die before Nine recovers.
>>557023578Nope, just revert back to diff8 since that's the highest save data lvl
>>557028484Isn't save data by tiers?
>>557028654Yes, tiers. There's a base save tier plus the modifiers.
>>557028425The best part about Beryl machine gun is it count as extra damage so it ignore damage reduction from elasticity
>>557028654Diff 8 unlock equipment *5, get tier 13 and then turn on trauma to make it tier 14.
>>557030387the modifiers are really difficult after 12, do you guys just avoid fortitude and just go with everything else?
>>557030648I avoid tyrant and neglect and negative credits
>>557023506Exhaust skill user like Orlea.Or do you seriously think they made a memory frag set just for one standard banner character?
>>557030648I only avoid pleague -40/50% max HP and Niglect, everything else is doable but 8 elites, - credit and -3% max hp per turn are the most free ones
>>557030828Considering that one standard banner character is the dev's favorite? Yes.
>>557030828Nah the cat is more support coded so she will be the exhaust skill user, Tiph could just be Nine but Justice since Beast set is dual element
>>557006392This one did 9/9 not sure if it'S good, no idea about Narjabut feels good to play
>>557030974>>557032554jesus did i just necro bumb this thread after 30 minutes
>>557032664We will probably be on /vmg/ before the end of Feb90% of our players quit for Endfield
>>557032972We need content creator like this to revive our game
>>557033032Why are the agressive shizos the ones most attracted to WuWa is completely beyond me.
>>557028434funny thing is even if nine recovered, u have to wait a whole deck shuffle to see her card again
are trimmed decks the meta
>Browntontas>KWABtontas>MostMongoloidFeaturestontas
>>557035138Might be. Nine literal only needs three cards and two of them are already unique.
>>557034064There is something wrong with gachafag
Does it really take like 50 runs to max out the zero system or does it get better? I'm looking at the zero system's tree and it's looking like you can get like 100 chaos gears per run maybe?
>>557035725>does it get better?No.Keep in mind it's content that should last for 12 weeks so don't rush it.
>>557035138A natural development considering enemy, card, and combatant design.Half the cards are unique to prevent players from copying the upgrades multiple times so you end with trimmed highly synergistic decks that execute their gameplan to rape efficiently in one or two turns instead of meaty ones that have more than one purpose in mind for fights designed to last more than one turn, so those strategies are unpunished.And the blocking strategy is killing before you get killed, not like it really matters either way because most bosses don't threaten you with giga killing attacks that require you to shift between attacking and defending on a long fight, they're either punching bags for score points or a DPS race where they scale infinitely so you have to kill them before they kill you focusing on the bare minimal sustain and all the damage you can. Doesn't matter if you're left with 1HP if the fight is over.
>>557035138when i did the 9/9 with Nine, Vero and Narja I constantly had a full handI thought i had too many cards, so trimming might be it yeahThat was also a problem with Sereniel and Cas where my hand was constantly full
>>557037484actually it was so full that i never got a ballistathere's also the new items that generate cardsMaybe it's time to have something like an off hand with ballista and generated cards
Do you guys have any example decks of a Rei with the "activate all basics" Blade of Darkness build?I was planning on farming city of mist?>>557034064Open world gacha player derangement + spiteful exes-tier mentality
Any consensus about the best Nine build yet?
>>557038073Vaginal, kissing, leglock is the consensus
>>557038073Massacre and Extreme the rest are meme
>the meta is to have 5 card or less decksSeems like the game has been dumbed down imo.
>>557038073Extreme is the most general build you can play in a vacuum so you can slap that on any comp without thinking about anything else.Ironclad was good on for the tower for me so it's good for that type of content where fights last and you want to not lose hp, vanguard comps.Flash is only for synergy (luke, tressa, kayron, chizuru basics spam deck, cassius even, etc)So mostly extreme.
>>557035138yeahthey went overboard with the card removal rebalancing
love herpassion spores also count
>>557039005wonder how high you can go
>>557035138>>557038876>>557038885newcuties' first deckbuilder
>>557039005>passion spores also countWhat the hell so has anyone tried 50x kicks.
>>557035138just now because oneshot meme builds are the way to gosereniel doesnt want a trimmed down deck for example
I thought the effect is similar to opening found epi but turn out it's just one hit per turn.
>>557002346cthulhu and aether eater appearance rate upgrades
>>557039568retardyou couldn't remove more than 4 cards without bricking your deck to 170 data before, now you can remove 5 and dupe 4 and only be on 100 data
>>557035868no need to max it out or run 100 times whatever, your priority is the epiphany upgrade, the mediation upgrade, and the duplicating upgrade, then go for generic attack and defense stats, shop refresh, then credit income and whatever is leftunlock the highest upgrade tier then reset the upgrade to select which one to prioritize
>>557038885The previous system was awful. Right now it's on a sweet spot.What the game needs is more enemy variety to punish playstyles and force a bit of variety on deckbuilding.
>>557042078I think the free remove for non standards was probably too much
>>557042205Converting is now worse, counting as a remove+new, so i guess they thought that would balance things out.But imo, some of the "run enders" popping up, depending on chaos, can still easily fuck you over depending on your deck style. And the hp buff enemies got can just fuck you over even harder if you try to attrition.
>he rolled brickja>he rolled brickreniel>he used his selector on brickronica
>>557042205It ultimately doesn't matter because players will still trim the deck to the thinnest they can stripping away everything that's not necessary, and that's because they don't need anything else to win a fight. You punish that with proper enemy design (just like they design enemy behaviors to slow you down on basin filling your deck with shit to play around the turn limit for the 3 stars)Otherwise people would just RNG farm the divine epiphany they want as soon as possible on the run, then remove the 3 basics and quitout before they epiphany the rest of the kit into play making it even a more retarded and frustrating RNG grind chore. They wanted to alleviate deckbuilding frustration and repetition, acknowledged that players may do that and I think it was the right noice.
0 card deck and 5 trimmable deck happen in the same yearyou have to be retarded if you dont see a major problem with this. Its not simply uhhh this card hits harder or ohhh that card heals more now
True, they should get rid of 0 card decks.
we already know people are going to have a melty if deck trimming gets nerfed, just buff bigger decks.
>>557043403>>557043102I still have no idea how you can reach a 0 card deck. given that removing 3 cards is already 90 load, how the fuck do you manage to remove 5 more and it to not go over 200 is beyond me.
>>557043648Only way to do that is make characters who all have insane cards including basics on top of having two dupe events in Interior.
>>557043102God forbid people are allowed QoL. They made 0 cards decks impossible to get which was one of their goals (and one people could achieve obnoxiously easy) and fixed some frustrations with deck building (meditate and selecting which character gets to copy cards) and you still find something to bitch about under the banner of undefined "major problems". Vagueposters truly deserve the rope.
>>557043648They're literally doing the opposite of that by making everything unique thoughever
Aaaaah I must exhooost!
>>557038167I like Ironclad, too. Really cool for chaos.Flash is pretty nice if you run Orlea or some meme comp with Tressa.
>>557043734anon literally hasn't fired up the game in the last week
I'm too dumb for current season...... I don't wanna do big damage I just wanna get all the rewards
at this point select3 per character is punishing you for not playing small deck, i do think deckbuilding is too easy now but at the same time targeted copy after boss would improve how you approach deckbuilding. tiny deck would no longer be the path of least resistance by far. I got an amazing chain anchor pipis so I removed charge anchor even though I didn't want to so that I could guarantee the copy, which is just kind of dumb.
>>557043734No potentials, remove 4 starters, escape at the first checkpoint
>>557043734save data calculation is completely changed, read up on it.
>>557047296Yeah, i didn't think about just bailing before you get the cards. Guess it would work this way.
>>557043734anon?, you can make one on a tier 5 run in like 10 minutes or less
>Feb 2026>Retards still talking about empty decks over something like this.
>>557048248Mika, Rei, Amir and I guess Nia have passives that are active even with a zero card deck. are there other characters like this?
>>557048350i'd like two zero card decks for dailies so I can always immediately hew twice, just need to bother to do it.
>>5570483500, zero cards deck and one retain Beryl, can get your weekly, that thing with 10 fights that nobody remember and even 9/9 on the event boss without need a build or anything
>>557048350I've still never seen a 1AP adagio. I keep dreaming
>finally unlock camp meditation>took 5 rests to get flash hew epi draining me of all money and opportunity to remove cardsIt this normal?My desire to drop this pile of shit game is steadily growing.
>>557048998Drop it already. That's normal and it doesn't get better in any way.
>>557047296>No potentials???
>>557048248why t5? I'm stupid
>>557049178because it the easiest and you are going to escape, reroll god event for remove 2 cards, then remove the rest asap on the shops or events and leave
There isn't anything buffing Beryl's extra shots in her skill tree, right?
I need more hags...
>>557049567Don't you need tier 15 for 0 card deck?
nice deck, too bad no one can fully abuse it yet
>>557051108I'm stealing your deck. Good job.
>>557051108what does that mushroom accessory do? the text on it makes no sense to me
>>557051049You need t15 for 4 divine copies deck
>>557051049Brother in christ please read up on the deck cost changes you have month old information
>>557048350Yeah shit like this makes me feel dirty using
>>557053120What do you mean?
>>557053563Dupe limited to 4 and remove limited to 5
Man Nine is so satisfying. I love big unga bunga hits.
I wouldn't be surprised if some content down the line came with set deckbuilding restrictions like >every combatant must have at least 10 cards in the deck>decks can't have non-basic removed cards recordsor something like that.There's so many things they could do to take advantage of the fun core they balanced this patch.
>>557053563remove the 4 starting cards now cost 80, any other card is free, you can remove up to 5 cards, that is why everyone told you to quit fast so you don’t get extra cards
The deck editing feature should allow you to remove shit, too. Game fucked me over on the Interior by not giving me shops and I end up with cards I wanted to remove. I don't want to do another run because my gear is super good.
>>557054047Yeah there's definitely many options to disincentive thin decks, even without outright banning them
>>557054047absolutely fucking not
>>557054047absolutely fucking
>>557054047possibly fucking
>>557055041I wanna piss on her tits.
chaos order battles?
>>557055195e.g. judas
>>557055297amazing, this changes everything
Is the roar buff on the elemental boss mistranslated? My Beryl damage gets cut in half after turn 1 for some reason but I can't seem to figure it out.
For Beryl, you want your other partners with 0 card decks, right?
when are they fixing chizuru
>>557056590shes op
>>557056731and cursed shackles don't work since last patchwhen are they fixing it
>>557049121First potential is the free epiphany,adds more work if it's on
>>557056783describe how it is supposed to work and how it currently works
>>557057185they're supposed to give you will o wisp stacks when you attack a monster enchanted with cursed shacklesright now it does nothing
>>556901325I literally never touched the game can I still get Sereniel or is it over for me
>>557057604can't get sereniel anymore but nine is the new meta
>>557057310wow chizuru is this strong and she has a bug that massive? huge, starting to feel like shes an S tier.
>>557051374No one knows what any items do since they are all bugged or have unreadable descriptions
>every fucking chaos merge with a high tier ends up giving me some mix between fucking over credits gain, gutting my HP or giving mooks increased health and fortitudeI'm too much of a shitter, I can't prune my decks well enough and it results in getting ass raped to the point of my healer being unable to salvage the run
this was my 5th attempt at building Orela's deck and i ended up with Nine Vun spore spam
>>557057717Just learn to enjoy losing
>>557057717theyre just so nasty. I'm surprised how many rolls it takes to get non-fucked up maps, you have to roll multiple times just to not face some four modifier insanity.
>>557057717What even is the point of pushing zero higher and higher
How come the game's launcher feels like its slowing my computer down.
>>557055195Chaos Order is three niggas, Judas is Holy Crusaders
>>557057717>it gives you the planet you want>it has easy modifiers you want>it's karmic seed>it's fucking divine
Morale !
>>557057717-70% credit is like a free modifier what the fuck, easiest one to deal with
>>557060269Not him but I hate the credit one because it fucks me up if I get shit epiphanies.
Draw 1Draw 1
>noone talks about sereniel anymoreIs she really that bad now??
>>557060538>Gives elasticity to your mobHeh nothin personal. She's still good else where until they remove breakbars that is
>>557060538she + Nine is the only team I can clear diff11 with
>>557060538she's okay, the season environment is just really averse to her and doesn't give her anything to work with
>>557060538My Sereniel + Khalipe is struggling on higher difficulties. I don't want to pull Nine, but I can't decide if it's better to pull nine or to just afk for the season. Hate when games "make" me pull or invest in characters that I don't want to use.
>>557060869if Sereniel can fall off so hard after her season, I'm kinda afraid of rolling for Nine
>>557061195Next season will be DOT meta TRUST
i doubt sereniel will be bad next season, if anything they'll be countering this season's combatants
bros I was trying to build a chizuru deck for basic attack spam, but I think I may have to pivot and make this a rei runthis dark condensation isn't worth keeping right?
>>557061195you never lose if you roll everyone E0. you never know who's going to end up really insane down the line like narja or really good like chizuru (even save data haru is good now). actually I think it's only yuki who sucks?
>>5570604521 epiph1 divine epipheven if it looks ugly this way it makes you understand what was from what
>>557061902lol why would you not keep it? you should dupe it instead, snack time +AP is not very rare because so many pipis are playable and +450% to black dance would be crazy.
>>557062217I'm really regretting playing a 170 memory limit savefile now.2 basic removes + 2 snack time copies + ebony lumen is 100 and I'm already at 80I guess if I get ebony lumen I can live with just 2 snack times otherwise I can copy it and have 3 snack times.
>>557060161damn nice
>>557062803i guess in that case you have to remove it, probably better to have a deck that does one thing extremely well.
>>557061195>>557060538Sereniel is still far and away the strongest dps. You put her in any team in any chaos and you win.
>>557063606I'm not sure because I think having one extra card (and 1 extra AP required to cycle through the deck) is more detrimental to ultra optimized thin decks, than the upgrade is for non-basic attack decks (at least you play it for free and it doesn't show up again)On the other hand, fortunately enough the snack time exhausts up to 2 cards so the option to get rid of it if I don't want it is always there in a way.Meh. I'll think about it since I have to stop playing for a bit and I returned to base mid run.
eat woman
>>557064892people are saying you'd fail with sereniel for anything above diff10 tho
>>557065787in this specific event chaos yes because the boss has an intentional sereniel cucking mechanic.
>>557065454i want to eat (sexually) Rei
Should I reroll the Hew into the Extreme one?
>>557066542no, you can make decks so easily save that shit for when you need it for something specific
>>557066542>those itemsLol
do my build twin
>>557067205sex with alcea
>>557067205The blue mallet is Nine's BIS weapon if you're doing this build.
>>557067205Remove fatal strike
I seem to remember back from launch during the story drama the devs said they wanted to make the protos playable eventually, does anybody remember that or did I imagine it ?
>>557068994yeah we are also getting a factory
>>557068827the one that gives vuln when you use a +2ap card?>>557068964yea true you can just remove that one
>>557069054would be based desu but I know you're messing with me
I do not like this seasons equipment. Most of it feels niche.
i love making goofy shit
Is the arena portal exclusive to the event chaos?Just did a lab0 run and I got the old tunnel event.
>>557068994I never heard that, but also never paid that much attention to the devs.The captain just got PLANT'd and turned into a psychopath with super strength, so perhaps next season the captain will be playable.
>>557069095Alternatively you can use the dagger that gives your crit dmg.
>>557069371you can add it when merging in codex
>>557069426I had that thought as well but I feel like if that was in the cards they would advertise it. Who knows
>>557069453idk feels like +40%dmg to hew sounds better
>no decent way to look at items ingamethis game is so fucking unfinished
>>557069532Not worth sacrificing one more fighting spirit. You want to spam it every turn if you're not doing the meme one shot one hit build. Also pic related is easier to get from the event bosses or cthullu armor if you get it.
how do I build sporelea
>>557069769do i have to unlock this doing swamp of judgement before i can get it in seasonal chaos?
>>557069834like this
>>557069885Not sure. I have it unlocked before but the seasonal chaos boss is the same want as swamp so there's no reason he shouldn't drop it. You can just do a couple zero divine swamp runs if you want though.
>>557070105there's more shit i've not seen in seasonal and it says lockedwhy is this not explained in game man
>>557070271Just do the divine swamp runs and fill up the codex. Swamp is piss easy anyways.
i've been playing the game since launch and i still didn't manage to kill the second boss of the foretold ruin
>>557069885No, each chaos is independent>>557070271There are some that are almost impossible to get because they drop at an extremely low rate from certain elites. It doesn't affect anything besides exploration completion though.
>story leaves off on a cliffhanger where renoa and nine are about to have a cat fight over the captain>only likely outcomes are renoa jobs, the two are evenly matched, or the something happens and they band togetherThese all seem like boring outcomes and the fight feels bit forced.
>>557070725I haven't encountered them on diff 11 with full modifiers or anything, but I've always seen them as free. I always focus on taking down both of their shields one at a time, then rush the knight. You've got plenty of time to kill the cleric after that.
prediction: the nerf they're going to force beryl go through is basically just changing the upgrade to "when you retain an attack, deal 150% dmg to a random enemy" so you can't spam spores
fuck this game, run twice for a beryl retain loadout, miss out on extra method both times.the one time i do a run for my narja, i get extra method in the shop...
>>557071191I mean the captain is probably going to stop them.
>>557069371lab0 is the old seasonal chaos, can't mix with the new
>>557071271i see them just capping it to 5 hits per upgrade.
when are monsters HP getting nerfed
>>557071271I've said it before, but Beryl's retain combo's existed since day 1 and they buffed her in the last patch. If the spores are the problem (and they are for a lot of characters, not just Beryl) then it won't matter when we get to season 3 and we need new decks anyway. What, are they gonna be upset that people are killing Judas too quick?
what's this and why haven't i been able to clear it yet?
>>557071271How about they just don't nerf shit anymoreWhat even is the point of playing if everytime a fun deck becomes a lil too popular they kill it
>>557071713I read someone say you need to clear diff11 to unlock but it carries over from last season'sbasically you reroll a codex until it has a divine modifier, it gives 4x reroll currency and you can't keep your save data at the end
>>557071713the codex super hard maps that don't save the decks
>>557071713Divine Intervention is a new modifier that appears in Codex randomly. You have to have cleared a level 130 Chaos before they start appearing. i don't know if doing diff 11 in the event Chaos counts.
>>557071467You've got a point, but why didnt they do that already if so? It seems like one of the first things that would have happened.
>>557071928yeah it's probably just clearing a lvl130 codex
>>557071271https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1qz78w2/the_new_spore_stuff_also_work_with_beryl/not my pic, but there's also another retain beryl build where you dupe guilty pleasure and just have it duplicate spores. if retain build gets hit people'll just migrate to that for st bosses.
>>557071191i really liked it best part of the story so far
>>557071928>You have to have cleared a level 130 Chaos before they start appearing.i don't think this is correct
>>557071928I'm new and never did diff 11 before and came across one anyways.
>>557071191>>only likely outcomes are renoa jobs, the two are evenly matched, or the something happens and they band togetherCrazy that Protos simply opening his mouth to, you know, say something and calm them down isn't even considered a possibility
>>557072614>calm them downcat fights are super hot
as a high test male i would intervene and make them suck my balls
>>557071191this whole game is forced. they shouldve gutted it after the original writer left
>>557073637they should have gutted you when your mother left
>get a free lvl 15 after finishing a run>discard, 40% boss stats, HP% reduction>right from satan's anusi really can't handle the discard, am still tilted about losing a run right before the interior boss
>>557072614So why didnt they do that already?
>>557071191>>557073637I like it, though. Gacha stories aren’t really supposed to be taken seriously anyway
They're called combatants because they're supposed to fight over my seed.
>>557072072Probably for a cliffhanger, I mean the captain hasn't said a word yet.
>accidentally clicked delete instead of lock on a savefuckwhy doesn't it have a confirmation message
bait
Is there ANY reason to 9/9 nebula or is it just for bragging rights?? do you get any exclusive stickers for it?
>>557075667no sticker, no medalbut it stays on your season report card so we'll make fun of you
I WILL do the bare minimum and get all of the rewards anyway, and there is nothing you can do about it.
one day: video auto playsanother day: video doesnt auto playhow does it work...
pressed skip on the final dupe since it only showed one card, for some stupid reason on my mind it was already selected
What are the best nine teams?I usually use Orlea and Narja but I'm not sure if I really need both of them. I don't wanna use Veronica again
>>557077142E6 Rei, E2 Sereniel
>>557077142I am bulding Beryl Spore Support and Orlea Vulnerable Spam.
>>557075356It does though? I mean, if you clicked that option, then that's on you.
Should I bother rebuilding tressa? I refunded her but I honestly only picked up this kusoge for her
>>557080991If you like her, then yes.
>>557080991Try running her a few times in the event Chaos with the level sync turned on and see if you still like how she plays. Personally I think she's less of a hassle to use in Chaos than she was before and kept her.I did refund Cassius to build Orlea, though.
>>557080991She's still the best option for activating Hugo and he's relevant in this chaos as he's order.If you're only doing burning life you actually don't even need to rebuild her either just use the distortion thing to get her stats back. You can farm decks before deciding if you want to commit to building her, or any unit.
>>557080991She's good, why not? Now she's actually better suited for chaos than before.
Do I want to reepiphany Hew or Counterblade? I think I'd rather have extreme but I'd also like the autoplay counterblade too
>>557084573The "shield is gained" counter blade has no synergy with ironclad ironically.You would have to trigger it 3 times before you use hew.There's a shield gain spore thingy that might work.The on exhaust honed edge is the best for all cases i think.Ironclad is good, extreme too, massacre too. You can just make a deck with every of them.
Can someone make a new thread, thanks
new>>556794681>>556794681>>556794681
>>557086553
>>557086663always on point
>>557086553wait a minute...
I'm making the thread.
The Nightmare is Ongoing...>>557087162>>557087162>>557087162
>>557087210best OP pic, i thought someone should use it as OP when it was posted
if I don't have Narja, who to add with Nine and Orlea for chaos?
