The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>556901325>Nine (NEW) Character PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btU93p-ft0Mhttps://youtu.be/7-QM7H_EkXc>Balance Adjustments for Season 2https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11909138https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12011077>Roadmap Streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4>Dev notes 02/04https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12012929>Useful Links and Resourceshttps://rentry.org/xtb66f3ihttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant>Current Featured Banner[ Nine ] Order - VanguardRate Up Period: 02/04/2026 - 02/25/2026>Upcoming Featured BannersTiphera | Starts Feb25>Current/Upcoming EventsSpiral Tower of Screams (Beta)New Season - Seed of Karmic Fire | 02/04/2026 - 04/08/2026>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?Check the Rentry (Rentry is gone, create a new one)https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculatorhttps://czn-save-cal.web.app/
>tfw you don't want to pull Nine but this season's Chaos massively shills her
>>557087162Kino OP
>>557087338It's fine, we're getting two more Chaoses that shill the other two characters
>>557087162what is happening there
>>557087424I honestly don't know if that's worse or better. I only want the catgirl and that's only if her kit is good. I'm a hoarder in gacha.
>do 1000 points of def dmghow do I do that If I don't have Nine>inb4 just roll on ninenuh uh, I'm saving for the twintails
>>557087470You wouldn't get it
>>557087549>how do I do that If I don't have NineMy Khalipe with the pure damage Vulture Ejection and a stack of Narja's Voracity does 1047 on crit.
>>557087549your Maribell?
>>557087162I dont get it.
>>557087470I don't think anyone knows.
Who am I supposed to use to clear the Blue Pot boss?
>>557087162>>557087957>>557087470Looks like sex to me.
>>557087957She's autistic and weird from having been a literal test tube baby with no interaction with normal people. It probably got a laugh amongst her fellow experiments.
>>557087549I got up to like 2k with Narja and Predation stacking. The 3.5k quest is going to be panful, though.
>>557087957She just lies on whale and hovers. The reason Sereniel understands is cause she hovers all the time too.
>>557088098Anyone + Rally/Wanderer of the Void. It only got harder with the nerfs to those, though.
I still don't get how orlea works
>>557087916the joke is that the thread is also quiet since it slowed down a lot
We need an offhand mechanicSomething like a weapons stache for ballista, bullets, the shit generated by arena gearMy hand is overflowing
>>557087470You can always fuck Narja bent over.
>>557089257
>>557089324This artist is singlehandedly carrying CZN on her back. Is she hired by the comp?
>>557087808>>557087770>>557088569Can Magna reach those numbers?
>>557089598She ought to be
I'll save czn
>>557089639sure. with fist1500 (or was it 3000? dont remember) is really lowany defense character can except maybe khalipe
>>557089138it only takes a few days to build a deck for 9/9 and play around with the combatants you like the most
>>557089757This one's adorable. They all are, but this one especially.
>>557089825the rei of light is still the cutest
>>557090028We like having hope around here
>>557089793feet in czn when
Chaos is a ladder...
Everyone is on Orlea's dick right now and I understand why but if the rift bosses have Necrosis too then I can't help but feel like using her might (literally) do more harm than good.Would it be viable or even feasible to go for a Magna like this instead? No counterattack and eventually you'll only be drawing the one +3 vulnerable skill
>>557089639Did it with her. Take the fist epiphany for 540% damage. You may or may not need stack some spores + vulnerability, maybe some morale and naturally you need to crit
Did they nerf the policy system? It feels like 1 of the 3 advisors barely ever appears.
Any way to get Lab0 gear while having a deck from this season?
Why does renoa not have a line of unigram events? She's the poster girl.
>>557092174no, you need to disable the current season's modifier for it to appear as an option
>>557092174Nope, lab0 won't spawn with the karmic modifier on
>>557092174nyo, they're separated seasonal content
>>557092145I once picked Yuki (happiness advisor) and two economy advisors since I only needed a tiny bit of happiness and didn't need the third stat. The game then proceeded to give me ALL Yuki policies until the final few days.
>>557091020Nah, only 1 vuln stack is consumed on hit, so that would stack too much.If they put Necrosis on the boss it'll be because Tiphera is an Orlea sidegrade with shields instead of heals, probably.
We kinda lack debuff specialists in the game. The vast majority of debuffs come from epiphs or a few neutral cards, so it would be cool if Tiph is a debuffer char.
e3 kayronbro here, i finally cleared tower with himi took some inspiration from another anon who did a similar comp with nine and narja and adapted it to not use nine or narja, and it worked out pretty wellit still loses hard to the nebula boss because of healing, but i already managed to beat it anywayshowcase herehttps://youtu.be/MvtcaYXVNMQ
>>557092571Well it doesn't have to be that many copies. I guess you only need 2.
>>557093483it's kind of cool people still manage to find fun ways to play different characters, i love czn
>>557093483I assume I'm the guy you're talking about because I posted about my kayron/narja/nine comp the other day.And hell yeah, your team rocks. You use kayron to deal way more than I did, in my case he sort of enables nine to scale faster and acts a dps support (but still pushes damage on his own)I don't have a channel but I'm going to record a nebula boss kill for you so you can see it in action as well, I'm glad it inspired someone else to think about the box, it's the beauty of the genre.
I went to fuckin 5 camps trying to get extreme hew and it wouldn't show up but I think I might just flash this shit if it's a good fit for sporlea and relevant in sticker battles
>>557094521>use flash>still don't get ityour face?
>>557094817Flash doesn't have RNG you just get to choose from all options
>>557094817You can preview that without consuming it as well, forgot to mention
>>557094425yeah, thank you for the ideai would love to see your clear as well, both nebula and tower
I'm stuck on Difficulty 9. Everything is fine with Nine+Sereniel+Mika until the last boss starts spamming 1000+ damage attacks turn after turn. Halp
I wonder if most of Nine's card are really useless or if she will have a better synergy with Tiphera.
Tiphera will powercreep Veronica. Mark my words.
>>557096180Holy shit! Two wives!
>>557095807orlea rei nine is like giga FOTM or?
>>557096087They're not even bad, they're just not worth hand space when you can generate cards that give multiplicative dmg buffs.
>>557096180On who has the tightest pussy? Maybe.
I just cannot make any good decks, I do not understand how everyone else is doing it and saying it's easy.
>>557097838What qualifies as a good deck to you?
>>5570979194 copies of a good card that has a good epiphany while trimming the rest of the fat from the deck. I can't even get 1 copy of a good card, let alone 3. I'm ending tier 15 Chaos runs with like 80-100 used Save Data.
>>557098570>don't get any money debuff, you need the coins to buy shit and reroll epiphanies >focus your run on going through the most unidentified areas as possible, increasing your chance for rare events and free removals/moneyThat's basically all you have to do to be successful on most runs.
>>557099248That's what I am doing and the best I can do is get 1 dupe of a good card by sheer dumb luck.
>>557095585Been trying to upload the videos to litterbox but it won't stop timing me out. Sigh.
>>557099248>>557099381Oh, and I should add, half the time I can't even get an epiphany on a card that the first boss lets me dupe.
>>557099381Is your codex upgraded?
>>557099381Impossible, anon. Even without the dupe event you have the two bosses, making it really easy to get at least 2 copies. Removing one of the epiphany cards (most agents have at least one useless card outside the basic ones) guarantees you your desired card. You're not filling your deck with neutrals, right?
>>557098570Sounds like you're missing the choose 3 from a character upgrade no? If you do have it then you should remove their rare cards so you have higher/guaranteed odds of duping the card you want.
>>557099715Authority is. >>557099893>Impossible, anon.Not impossible, since I am describing what happens to me when I play this game. >You're not filling your deck with neutrals, right?Of course not. >>557099974>Sounds like you're missing the choose 3 from a character upgrade no?I guess so. I don't have every tree upgraded, so if there's some option that gives you the choice on what card to duplicate, I don't have it.
>>557100106On chaos upgrades the latest node of the bottom section lets you choose the combatant you cant to copy the card from. It's very easy to manipulate their deck to always offer you the card you want to copy.Go do that now
>>557100106It's the 3rd tier final upgrade, you should reset your tree and unlock it.
>>557100178>>557100206If I reset my tree then I don't get Meditate though.
>>557100106If you don't have the upgrade that let's you choose the dupe target agent you're obviously going to suffer, silly.
>>557100362The node is permanently unlocked so you can just spend the amount of currency needed for that node and not everything else before that point.
>>557095807Why the fuck aren't you using Orlea?
>>557100362Once you unlock the node, you reset again and can pick and choose any upgrade you want with what you have.
>>557100487>>557100534That's retarded. Or, I guess that's based, but you know what I mean. I'll do that tomorrow. I already closed the game out of frustration that my absolute best decks are just 2 copies of a good card that happen completely by accident while I'm seeing people post multiple decks that all have 4 copies of good cards and every bullshit card removed.
is a trimmed deck the meta now??
>>557100709There is still rng to it of course but you probably won't feel like blowing your head off after a couple runs with the new upgrade. Maybe.
>>557100858trimmed bushes
>>557100858only if it's heart shaped
>>557100858>>557100930
>>557100858It's a card game. If you could play poker with nothing but hearts and diamonds above 10 in value, you would.
Kids these days will never know what's spend 50 hours trying to get 3 copies of Move + stackable Kick for Mei Lin.
>>557095585Fucking finally. I had to compress the files like three times.I played very fast so a brief explanation for the build: upgrades grant predation when drawing the selected card, hone edge on card exhaust, and AP cheating. I draw the one narja attack card to get 6 voracity every turn for sustain, I spam the kayron 0 cost attack for +1 AP and create two futilities than I exhaust with the Nine card. Hew Flash gets discounted and you start wrecking shit for free. When you can, dark hole for big damage.Anyway, some disclaimers:>the oath of vanity epiphany isn't ideal for the nebula boss because I can't play the fatalities or I die of necrosis, but it's okay for anything else>if I really wanted to tryhard this comp I would spam chaos until both nine exhaust cards were 0 AP to play black hole every turn and I would have the singular narja attack card with the "Draw 1" epiphany, that way I get to play the whole deck every single turnIt was the theory, but taking the divine epiphany from Kayron's attack card took a while, it was 2AM and I just couldn't be bothered to run them back 20 times, I wanted to move to greener pastures. But I will work on perfecting that, eventually, because it feels amazing to drag cards and watch everything go boom.Because of all of the above the nebula fight is a bit fucky (wasting time playing the blood cards, the draw order rng and the boss overall being a gigantic flaming faggot) so you "barely make it" sometimes, but I haven't lost once and I've retried the fight like 15 times to test the decks.On the tower you can see on a less constrained environment how much the deck fucking shreds, it's kind of insane actually the amount of firepower on a single turn and sustain this shit has, I'm impressed. Kayron excels in this type of content because he infinitely scales, the longer it goes the more he deals.Nebula boss clear: https://litter.catbox.moe/zwj8aetj3zel7a60.mp4Tower 75 clear: https://litter.catbox.moe/18o5l5vifpasyifo.mp4
>>557100858Thin decks will always be good for any card game. It allows for more consistency to get your combo pieces. If you see that as bad, then you're simply retarded.
>>557095807>Sereniel>to Plague LordThere's your problem, you're doing both too little and too much. Let Nine carry your run.
Is shaved deck the meta now?
>>557101919Please don't shave your d*cks, everyone
>>557101919Only for some characters. For most, they want it trimmed.
>>557101217very cool comp, the sustain is impressive, i didn't expect it to survive so well against the nebulai guess the difference between your comp and mine is that i built mine around kayron while in yours he's more of a support to nineso your team is much faster but mine can stall comfortably for a while to grow the black holei actually have an idea of how to make mine even better but i'd have to use 2 deck editor items so it's probably not worth it for now since the comp works well anywaysas for yours, yeah that oath epi definitely slows you down, but otherwise it's solid, i love it
Will I like this game if I like tcgs (Hearthstone, Yugioh, Magic, Shadowverse, etc)?
>>557103425it's not a traditional card game, it's more like slay the spire
>>557103379Thanks bro, the nebula boss a huge motherfucker if you don't cheesse him. It's still a bit of a race, but one that I can keep up thanks to narja.And yes, mine is more about clearing hordes with nine while kayron grows but given enough time he outperforms her. By the end he deals 11k damage with a black hole. I couldn't figure out a way to make him the main star of the show even if I wanted, the futilities are truly ass to handle, and I just have him on E1.Sometimes I have to hold my 0 costers because I don't have the nine exhaust equivalent and that's because I didn't roll for the divine epis but I can't be assed, it still werks. I'll do it for the love of the game, eventually.I'll try posting if I come up with more off the wall deck ideas. Maybe I'll do something with Rin, she was my first 5 stars. I have to think about it.
>>557103425I'm just gonna go ahead and say probably not. It's nothing like a TCG. It's mostly Slay the Spire.
>>557104073I wanna piss on her tits.
>>557104868stop and rethink that
>>557104906I've made up mind a long time ago, friendo.
>>557104868anon you gotta pee IN her not on her to mark her
Protos would not piss on his combattants.Except Hugo.
>>557105551I want to drench her slutty outfit on my pee and make her wear it all week.
>>557089598https://x.com/i/status/2021308138595442719She's really happy with the attention she got with the gifs
I think peeing on Luche would be neat.
>>557106196She had some endfield and frieren banger too
>>557105694Which combatants would pee on the protos?
>>557106662Veronica because that's what racoons or whatever the fuck she is do
>>557106662Imagine standing underneath giant Narja…
>>557106662Narja would with very little convincing, so would Beryl and Sereniel. Orlea would propose.
>hey I want to make a deck where THIS card has a divine epiphany>literally any other card except that one gets an epiphany during the exterior chaoswhy is the game like this?
>>557107253Me with Haru trying to get something good on anchor shot or anchor pointer.
>>557107416I want to make a chizuru deck so naturally I want to have a good epiphany on oni hunt>it's always her last card to show up>if I get it early, it never gets an epiphanyI've already ran it back six times and only once did it get an epiphany before the boss, it's so stupid
>>557106662Renoa because she's a freak
>Renoa gets mad at you for letting other girls piss on you so she has to wash it off with her own
>>557107863so just dupe it raw and pipis twice in interior.
>>557109035yeah, just divine epiphany the same version with the same divine epiphany twice... easy...
Feels like they stopped giving us missions from ark city policies? I don't miss them but its been like a month since I got any.
>>557106662HuGOD obviously to mark his territory.
>>557109190why do you need the same divine epiphany? you're such a baby.
>>557109591why is rolling for epiphanies for the same card twice even a better thing to consider? what a retarded point, especially when you may have to meditate other parts of the kit on the interior
>>557107863>I want to make a chizuru deckwhy
Narja milkies
For me, it’s sweaty gorilla milk.
>>557106662why is giant narja punching the CZN icon? Is she hitting renoa or the game?
>>557112859Fuck, I lost
can you guys please not piss on your combatants?
but just imagine the look on Rei’s face as I unleash my warm ray
my combatants piss me off
>>556938535Compared to other recently released gacha CZN is doing really fucking badly.
>>557104868Based. She's so for (You) that I think she'd even drink it.
>>557113240i like this person's art.
>>557114832She doesn't have much of a choice. I will empty my bladder all over her; hair, mouth and feet included.
>>557109463>Feels like they stopped giving us missions from ark city policies?I think that there is only a certain amount that exist, and as long as you have beaten that level (1,2,3,4, etc) then you can unlock the missions. They need to add more levels/stages for us to be able to unlock more. Or they need to add more in an update or whatever.
Kinda made this shit by accident just fucking around building a one card Beryl to spore nuke. It can be a functionally empty deck that draws 10 for 0-1 AP.
>>557114640I dunno how these tags work, but on pixiv there are like 3 or 4 different CZN tags, and not all art is tagged with all different instances. There's Japanese, there's English, there's a second English one, there's "kazena", there's "art contest", etc.
>>557114640Feel like it was more dire pre-pixiv contest, it was like we had single digit fanart lol.
>>557115047Rei/Beryl are good candidates for that lumen combo to help draw out the whole deck and play it.
It's been a while since I've seen an S rank in policy
>>557115491Yeah my Rei could use some work with better neutral cards and equipment. I made her half-assed and moved on since I figured she was only there to snack time the cards I couldn't remove from others that I wanted to use for spore bullshit. If I'm really bored I'll get her some divine snack dupes with fat defensive equipment.
>>557115850How? I always easily get it done.
>chizuru still brokenwhen are they going to fix this
I want to breed Veronica so bad, but I feel like it would be weird having an old-man-mouse constantly judging my form.
why are guides always suggesting to take HP gear on support characters? why would I wanna go for HP if the heals scale with DEF?
what are you guys saving for?
>>557117471NTA but I just pick gifts and crystals and the biggest chunk of research tokens everytime because the random rewards for high rank disasters are shit compared to raw power you get from affinity. We need so much of it to max a unit we'll never have enough at the rate they release characters.
>>557118213New Peko.
>>557118213EoS of course
>>557118213Luche, Tenebria, Aria
>>557118145They just don't know. I figured healing scaled from health based on intuition (atk->atk, def->def-based, hp->healing) until I learned otherwise from the thread.
>>557118213
Damn this is kinda underrated
>>557120141I hope this fucker is season 3
>>557120974Why are all our leaked characters never-evers.
>>557121170If it's underrated why did you put 300 points into atk def and hp first
What id the fastest way to level up chaos planets? I need the cube from blue pot for renoa, but I have to grind 10 more levels of bluepot.Does higher chaos level grant more experience or should I nust grind low level chaos runs to level it up?
You know that elf is a dude, right?
>>557118213Gaya once I hit 300. Didn't want her enough to spend anchors on her, but I still want her.
>>557121536Can't be assed to reset
>>557121547You level up by exploring different events and picking up equipment that you haven't equipped before. I think you do still want high enough difficulty to unlock the 5* equipment.
>>557121710ok and?I will fuck any elf
>>557118213Next E2 bait or good partner, thankfully managed to pull Nine's in 20 pulls because her poverty options felt so bad to use.
>>557121547You want to run D8 for Codex at least since those give 5* equips. You get most of your points from filling the bestiary anyways. Spam event tiles while you're at it.
>>557121547It's just seeing things you haven't before, getting the unique equipment several times, etc. Blue Pot's especially annoying because of how many rare events there are. But if you're like me, you might not have noticed that you can just attack people in a lot of the event spaces by clicking the crossed swords button in the bottom right, and that'll get you different results and add to completion.
>>557121212when the fuck is this nigga releasing. i'm sick of FOID units clogging up the banners.
Is Veronica worth using with no AP epiphanies?
>>557121212Gotta admit I like the idea of using Oberon in a game that's actually fun to play.
>>557121887Florence sex.
>>557122358if only he had the same VA as oberonsadly that dream is dead
I still don't get what the Luminescent Shroom does, I just know that I cannot trust the translation.
The game refused to give me the epiphanies I wantedChizuru is still bugged and cursed shackles don't workAnd I still beat the nebula bossChizuru the STRONGEST
>>557124360The recent 10 pull gave me Haru and I wanted so badly for it to be Chizu chu instead.
>>557122283This will easily let you draw your whole deck. You don't need the 1 ap if another character has the divine instead.
>>557123189>7 spore prop stacks>+70% damage>hit it with the 6th attack card generated this turn>effect is doubled>it does +140% damage insteadit is bad yes
What make Chizuru bugged anyway what mechanic in season 2 that clash with her skill?
>>557125149I don't think you actually need to generate 6 attacks card in one turn and then hit the enemy with the 6th card for the doubling effect to occur, anon.I think they mean that I need to generate 6 cards (probably not even attack cards) in a rurm and then hit the enemy with any attack card, but I haven't tested that yet.
How many points would a 4th copy of the same card be AND the gods hammer thing? My deck is turning out alright, but I have 90 points left for either. Im not sure if i could fit a 4th copy of the same card in, or if I should copy a different card in her deck. Id like to get the hammer augment.
>>557126819I should specify that I have the original card and 2 copies of it but could go for a 3rd copy, for a total of 4 of the same card.
>>557126819I'm pretty sure copies are worth 0/0/40/ depending on how many times you've already duped for that character. Which card it is doesn't matter, unless the card has a Divine Epiphany, which are all worth 20 points on top of whatever else it costs. So having three copies of Nine's Fighting Spirit won't cost you anything. But whether you have a fourth copy of that or copy Experienced Strike instead, that dupe will still cost 40 points. And if they've got Divines, that's 20/20/60 or 100 points altogether.
>>557127993Damn, the equipment abilities cost 10 points?
>>557126619It definitely doesn't work with skill cards. I'm pretty sure it's meant to hit Hew (Extreme) lvl 5 each turn, but you'll brick your hand trying to play around that.
>>557127993Didn't realize refinement cost anything. That probably pushed me over the edge on memory limits a couple times without me noticing.
>>557127594It saved, thank you.The equipment could have been better but the forge augments are solid besides the gods hammer which was just an hp increase.Im not sure if 4 upgrades is even the way to go because it limits the hand, but with nia discard and draw it hopefully won't be a huge drawback.
>>557128497What accessory is that?
>>557127993They really need to add faint memory cost qol into the game, we don't know that hammer cost faint memory.
Finally got it. Needed 3 vine camo to get it. I don't know how those YouTube videos got their Beryl to do like 800+ damage on a crit a turn, while mine is only doing 437 or so.
>>557129317They do keep improving it with each update. Back when the game first launched, it didn't even tell you how much memory you were allowed. A Chaos would just be labeled as "High Tier Save Data" and if you weren't using a third-party calculator you'd have no idea how the system worked. The main thing I'm hoping for is just a notice that you're about to go over your save limit, preferably with an option to choose what to replace or to just discard the addition.
>>557129540I keep thinking I should build a Beryl but then I remember that they will definitely break her legs after this season and my motivation disappears
>>557129916I don't know why they would when it's spore that's the problem.
>>557130079F2P characters can't stay strong, look at TC
>>557130079Simple fix for Beryl>opening found only trigger attack retain card
>>557130545Is Beryl as strong as TC?
>>557129014Crimson bloodstone from Bluepot.>When using Attack card, Recover Health equal to 9% of damage dealt (1 per turn)You get it from an event. Part of me wonder's if it's a reference to diablo's soulstones, but probably not.I'm not sure how hard this renoa deck will hit compared to last seasons, but the heal potential is nice.
>>557129916CUTE
>>557131050Why'd she do it?
>sees new story from nikker>queen just killed liberalio>neon trying to buff herself for upcoming mission>andersen is hella mad>dorothy got rejected from arkso much peak while czn and bd2 stuck with trying to revamping the story since woman writer cant stop with their cuck fantasy.the more i read nikker,the less hope i have for czn story revamp,i dont trust smilegook to deliver peak like blue archive or nikker at all even if they hired new writer again this time (he probably will get bullied so hard again)why not just kill czn and re release it again lile trickcal,arent they multi billion dollar company??
lewd...
>>557129540Gear, refinements and memory frags? Mine does just a little over 800 per crit with the extra attack damage weapon and a refinements that increases damage amount by 50% on the next turn if you don't deal damage with a card. Still only barely got through with 10% hp because copy event keeps evading whenever I'm farming beryl.
>>557133054why did they genderbend haru anyways?
>>557133792Was just mistranslated
>>557133271Here is my Beryl, 38% extra damage shouldn't be too bad. But I couldn't get second method as I used my money looking for spore.
>>557134402which part was mistranslated? Is Haru a guy or a girl?
>>557092145i haven't gotten S rank on it since launch
>>557135247You mean Haku and pretty sure he had a bare chest in his ultimate attack animation.
>>557132532nikke is yuritroon shit now look at their new collab lmao
>>557133271post beryl stats
SHOULD I ROLL NINE
>>557136864>yuritroonI really think the only people who use this word are /vmg/ drama posters.
>>557087162>Wyrm Tools
>>557136864we fuck lesbians in nikke,the game is pretty much anti lesbian for what i can see
First time playing Nine, is this a good deck?Also this camouflage eliphany is fucking kino, its free evade and 2 draws next turn
how does veiled thorn work? is it 50% damage increase for the unit or for all allies?ik its mistranslated and its allies need to not do damage but i was wondering about the 2nd line
Locking this feature behind such a massive grind is fucking retarded, should be in by default or much earlier to get at least.
>>557140234>massive grindthere are plenty of other gachas where you don't have to actually play the game retard
does beryl's retain extra attack count spores generated from other characters?
>>557138829not really
>>557140303Not an argument stupid.
>>557140346What do I need?
>>557140407Remove that parry, fatal strike, and those camouflages if you're building for hew extremeGet the auto-hew counterblade too
I heard you liek drawing and 10K ballistas
>>557140407drop fatal strikecounterblade should be honed edge on exhaust, not shielddont add neutralsmillenium arbor for weaponmythic chestrage potion/whatever for accessorybeyond that you're looking at varying amounts of fighting spirit copies depending on your strat
>>557140504Aren't the camouflages good for free draws and getting the effect from the weapon (50% when you don't take damage)?
>>557133271>refinements that increases damage amount by 50% on the next turn if you don't deal damage with a cardThat does not do actually what it says. It's translation error and is actually "If enemy does not attack, increase damage amount by 50% next turn". The weapon equip with similar effect also is translated wrong and is same as the upgrade.
>>557140527I'm happy for you. It might even be worth changing the epiphany on pendant.
>>557140606Not with that build, noAlso veiled thorn is mistranslated and it's when the ENEMY doesn't take damage that turn, not the combatants
>>557140372Ignore the hopejeet. He just blindly defends whatever is in the game.
>>557140754Fucking hell this mistranslation >>557140594Sounds good, back to the mines
>>557140303>>557140819You know you can just reset your skills and get it right? I got it on day 1 with only 1 chaos done on season 2
how do I cheese 9/9
Where is the Tiphera drip marketing?
>>557141823Beryl seems to be the easiest strat, otherwise you just fight it honestly with a dps + narja voracity or mega shield team.
>>557142012so the hardest thing is actually being able to sustain through the stage?
>>557087470
>>557142174Beryl with 4 opening found, spore, and vine camo equipment on all your units.
>>557129317>>557128307>>557128186Guys...
Where's the trip preview
>>557143515>tripYou mean Tiphany?
How much does it cost to remove a duplicated card?
Ayyy, I did it. Im glad I built haru.
>>557143842What's she going to be, justice? I hope she's order, but that's two back-to-back.
>running chaos>get to final boss>chizu severely underperforming>die>running 2nd time around>get to final boss again>chizu underperforms again>die>realize in the Nebula Fight that her will-o-whisp mechanic is bugged and not working...
>>557144138HaruGODS
>>557144812not bugged just mistranslated, like everything in this fucking game.
>>557144138>E6doesn't count
Does this work with Beryl's opening found upgrade build?
>>557143842i wish she was this meaty
>>557145114Not a mistranslation issue, the skill literally does nothing ever. It's bugged.
Gee would be really fun to be able to do runs with my Chizuru instead of her being bugged for like the third day in a row where her main mechanic just doesn't work.
>>557146119There will be an update dotay
>>557145314>e6What? It says 9/9.
>>557143964zero
>>557141894bro please understand a tweet per day is a lot of workretweeting artists or communicating with the community is too much work
>>5571279933rd dupe is also free
>>557147352t's not, third dupe means you have four copies of a card in a deck.
>>557147703A dupe is a copy. Three dupes is three copies. You can't have five copies in the first place.
>they nerfed contaminated spore>they call it a bugfix>spore debuff now has a stack limit>reduced spore debuff effect>"totally a bug sorry guys"
>>557147864Well, there were retards asking for the nerf here
>>557147830you are wrong you retard. dupe is a verb in this context.
>>557148049Show me a deck with five copies you wrong+dishonest weasel.
What events give out spore cards?
so spore orlea sucks now??????
>>557148218training/shop are the rng choicesthe correct answer for any deck that wants a specific neutral is to reroll your starting blessing until you get it
>>557148251It's still her best deck, just because you can't spend 35 turns spamming retains to one-shot bosses doesn't mean she sucks now
>>557148173four dupe events are not possible yet but the UI makes it clear that if they were in the game it would cost 40. if you look at the game UI, after you do three dupe events your combatant status screen says 3/4 copy events.
>>557148414It doesn't say that. It says "Copy 3" and that clearly means having copied a card 3 times, to end up with 4 dupes. You're never going to have a 5-dupe deck.
>>557147864had to pull the trigger
>>557148582copy and dupe are the same fucking word.
fix chorizo you stupid gooks.
the changes, no english version yet since they are fucking lazy and useless
>>557148695Exactly, which is why it was so silly when you said "third dupe means you have four copies." Three dupes is three copies. Four dupes is four copies.Case 1: Hurr durr I was referring to the number of dupe eventsYou can't apply four dupe eventsCase 2: I was referring to the number of copies (dupes) of the cardThird copy does not cost anythingThere is no case where claiming "3rd/4th dupe cost 40 points" makes sense.
>>557148857nvm it's here they just don't communicate ithttps://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12109778?boardKey=139238&combined=false
>>557148857>play 20 spores to double damage for one hitwow nice chaos mechanic to base every fucking neutral card around.
>>557148815they didn't say they would on the patch notes....chorizobros...
>>557148857flash of possibility is not compensation. what a load of bullshit.
FIX HER
>>557148939i hope you are ESL. dupe can have multiple meanings, there is the act of duping as well as what you can call each thing after the act of duping occurs. you are the only person having trouble with this. this is a new kind of stupid I haven't seen before, thanks for showing it off.
>>557149048>The extremely easy orlea deck that I spent maybe 2-3 runs getting because the only literal thing I had to do is roll the spore card and then delete almost everything in her kit except for the retain triggers and then get the only epiphany that actually matters, the one that generates a max level Softie, is ruined! This is not compensation!
>>557133054>fluids implying sex on Haku's tentacles>no penetration shown whatsoeverGAY art.
>>557149274awaiting further complainers
>>557148857>already nerfed sporesDidn't even have time to have fun with it.The more I play CZN the more I wonder why I even bother making decks. Half of them just get killed instantly when devs realize something is slightly stronger than they thought.
>>557149127Speaking about her, I quite literally and unironically haven't changed my home screen from the default one since day 1.But yesterday I unlocked hers and... yeah... I can't go back now. My beloved.
>>557148857>>557148940english
>>557149163I already covered that argument in case 1. God you're retarded.
>>557149376they don't play their game. nothing new
>>557149376>netdecker tears
I've been a flat GOD all my life but I emptied it all to gym slut Nine's big teasing oppai...
>>557149127Easy.Release her direct upgrade like they did with Nine that made Haru and Yuki obsolete.
Now that spore meme is dead Orlea is back to being a brick, and every card in s2 now fucking sucks compared to forbidden cardsNo fun allowed
spore cheater cucks IN SHAMBLES
Why don't these gookniggers just make betas before updates? They clearly are not competent enough to test shit on their own.
Renoas tits are perfect
Trying to balance every single little thing is how you suck out all the fun of your game
>he built a meme deck before great rift is outJust wait for the meta to form, not like deck building is hard nowThey can't do nerfs while it's running else people won't be able to contest scores obtained pre-nerf
>>557151370This
>>557151370Nah. I don't feel the urge to piss on them. Her hair does deserve a golden shower, though.
>>557151937most brown post this general has had since october 2025
>never touched a spore card because i don't know what it does>get a free copy of one of the rarest and most valuable materials in the game in the mail for freethis is a pretty great game. i wish they would change more stuff so i can keep getting free shit for doing nothing
>>557151984Cope and seethe.
Is Yuri still the best partner for the Canon Wife?
>>557152034free dupe item is rarer
>>557152337thanks random trivia bot
>557152034>I do not play the game and therefore am not impacted by the changesNot sending their strongest shills, uh
>>557152471the fact you think some shit item which can only change one epi is rare shows your retardationthey used it as an excuse to not give out apologems because idiots think it's rare
>Alcea is getting nerfed toolmao this is tragic
this is the worst menu in the game
>>557152880the sorting makes no sense, everything is really bad to seewhy is it so shit man
>>557152687it IS rare though. you can only get a few per season. the sources of acquisition are few and the supply is limited. that by definition makes it rare
>>557152981the combatant sorting changed last patchused to have 5* with highest dupe first now it's always Khalipe, I don't know what they are even sorting by
I never touched the sporememe but they shouldn't be calling it a bugfix. It's just a nerf.
>>557153345ah fuck i thought it was me being retarded, but they actually made it worsewhy the fuck did they change it?
>>557153345>>557153480wtf is this?maybe they are sorted by korean alphabet or some retard magic?
>spend 1k credits meditating the same card over and over>2 generic trash epiphanies and the wrong option every time
>>557153643skill issue
>>557153563Has to be gook alphabet or somethingIt's not element else Mei Lin would be first, and it's not Name because ChiZuru is always far downDupe's don't matter like they used to either, my E2 Sereniel was always first and now she's lastI truly don't know what these stupid gooks are doing, but they just keep fucking up
how do I play the mode where you can't obtain save data?? I need more gears for upgrade
>>557153867Go to codex and merge till you get one
>>557153867Gears don't get multiplied, only trade currency and chaos orbs do.Merge new codices.
nerfjeets wonagain
>>557129540It definetly has to do with the Shrooms.
>my deck on the node before the interior boss?????????????????????
Devs went from trying to not powercreep anything to powercreeping both Haru and Yuki, units with a completely different niche, in one single combatant
>>557155128classic. They really should just force epis on cards a few nodes before interior boss.
>>557155193yeah this game kind of fucking sucks
>>557155324this shit is unacceptable and a waste of fucking time1300 credits on the stash because nothing epiphanied and I couldn't meditate shit, it's pathetic
>>557153643We love RNG here sweetie.
>>557155420I bet you were offered epiphany events and didn't take them. I never take them either, mind you, but it's not totally unavoidable.
>>557139312It's for the unit equipped only, basically meant for using with a good shielder in the team
>>557155540>I bet you were offered epiphany events and didn't take themNo
>>557155540I feel like epi events generally don't make much sense unless they are divine. Just take them out and make combat/elite nodes have much higher odds or guaranteed epis.
>>557155614X
did you retards really expect spores to stay unchangedsay thanks they didnt nerf beryl instead yetno but seriously, will they get the memo where if they want something to stack infinitely they really really need to pay attention to how they word the cards? goddamn JUST PUT LIMITS TO STUFF IT'S THAT EASY
>>557155128yeah it's pretty dumb you're not guaranteed epi on all cards before the endgamei think one way they could fix it is make some card epiphany events in exterior, as of now exterior epiphany events only work to spawn new cards
>>557149376welcome to the illusion of freedom
>>557149376okay, post the decks
>>557155750Orleadev sneakily removed the cap before release.
>>557155683A guaranteed epiphany is better than a chance of one. Especially if it's a selected combatant, you want to force them all early as possible to maximize the odds of getting the one you want before the act 1 boss.
>>557155950The issue here isn't getting the cards even, it's that they don't get the epiphany so you can't even reroll. And the exterior only has "combatant triggers epiphany", not "card gets epiphany" events.
I didn't even build a spore deck yet so is it just not worth making anymore at all?
SPORES ARE GONE
>>557156085It's pretty bad now, imo still good for machinegun beryl but definitely nerfed her ceiling. For Orlea you just go the regular vuln softie build its still good for Nine and any other big hitters.
>>557156109Orlea's spores...
>make an Orlea deck for flash Nine for the event boss>healing does damage>all non-exhaust skill cards heal you>due to being "lucky" and having her duped one heal skill card retain and just clogs the handHoly shit I was retarded for ever investing into Orlea.
>>557156510I cleared it with that exact comp however it was tricky yeah
>>557156510I beat 9/9 with Nine, Narja and Rei and I didn't even realize I'm taking damage from healing cards. Just unga bunga with Extreme Hew until it dies, lmao.
guys they overnerfed it, the build's dead.
why did Orleadev let this happen??
>>557156023Yeah I'm saying you WANT combatant epiphanies. The sooner you get the card you want, the sooner that card gets the epiphany you want, or the sooner you can remove it, or meditate it
Spore patch:https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12109778Other issues patch:https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12108910Alcea patch:https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12109962
>>557155750>say thanks they didnt nerf beryl instead yettell the whole class how they would nerf beryl? it's not any different than what she was doing before spores came out; gets a full hand in 1-3 turns rather than 5, WOAAHH.lollmaolatelet just built beryl this season like everyone else on this board.
>>557157676■ Details- Fixing an issue where the instant removal effect of Spore Propagation was not functioning correctly - Adjusting effects based on stack count * Maximum stack count will be adjusted to 20* Damage Increase per stack will be adjusted from 10% 5% As a token of our apology, we have prepared the following compensation.Please be sure to claim it within the distribution period.■ Details- An issue where the TB score in Save Data was not reflected even after equipping equipment- An issue where the owned quantity was incorrectly displayed in the Galactic Disaster > Challenge Mission Reward details screen under certain conditions- An issue where the effects of Nine’s Ego Manifestation Stage 6 were incorrectly applied to targets affected by Cursed Shackles- An issue where the Galactic Disaster story tutorial could not be progressed intermittently- Applying effect target description updates ㄴIncluding Partner Alcea’s “Caustic Remarks” tooltip update- An issue where Veiled Thorn’s activation condition was incorrectly described- An issue where Chizuru's Will-O’-Wisps are not created under certain circumstances- Fixing an issue where the instant removal effect of Contaminated Spore > Spore Propagation was not functioning correctly- Adjusting Contaminated Spore effects based on stack count Details: Partner Alcea Skill Issue Currently Applied Effect: The damage increase effect is amplified for each Caustic Remark stack. Planned Fix: Applies Caustic Remark to the target. Targets affected by Caustic Remark take 20% increased damage. The issue will be corrected so that the effect increases up to 30% when the conditions are met.CHORIZO FIXED BTW
>never use spores>get one flash of whatever for free anywayThank you, spore abusers
can beryl still one hit 9/9
>>557157676Ok but where is Tippy drip marketing?
>>557149376it's easy, just don't build cheese decks
NO WHY I DIDN'T EVEN 9/9 YET I WAS JUST TAKING MY TIME GO BACK
>>557158020Theyre busy nerfing her lewd live 2Ds
>>557158102It's not really a cheese deck when you need to endure multiple turns of stacking and then use the only superhigh dmg card in the game.
>>557158020Bro the english twitter didn't even get a word about the patches out.I had to gather and paste that together. They should hire me.Smilegate is the most incompetent company that has ever existed.
fuck this game
so uhh is nine still good
>>557158302Yes? nothing changed
>>557158129it still one-shots, this was after patch. this is a non-crit btw.>>557157527
will we ever get another charm breakdown
what is the point of deckbuild for the next boss or the rift if they'll just nerf it to the ground?
>>557157791They finally fixed chizuru, just in time for my latest creation.I wanted to remove the shadow of the moon but it's not a big deal because you'll create it anyways.Yes, this solos the 9/9 nebula boss.
>>557158510>nerf it to the ground
NOOOO I CAN'T DEAL 10MILLION DAMAGE ANYMORE FUCK THIS SHIT REEEEEEEEEE
>>557159040cutest rat
>>557157570On that particular run, I got every single one of the cards on the exterior chaos very early and none of them epiphanied (and the ones that did, I forced them through events).A very frustrating waste of time.
>>557152272Any Renoa mains?
nerfing shit and not giving 10 pulls as compensation is pure evil
>>557159312from now on all compensation will be given in flashes
>>557158718i was thinking about this two types of tsukuyomi deck... looks great.
>thet already neerfing shit before leaderboardLmao I can't wait for this season leaderboard shitshow, who will be on the chopping block for season 3.
>>557159486You definitely want will o wisps and extra hits.Shadow of the moon really benefits from growing both ways. Even with the elasticity, getting it from 5 to 7 hits is crazy increase in damage output.And if the enemy doesn't have elasticity, then lmao get fucked nerd
>>557140527Wow this deck is straight up disgusting lol
this game is just an unfun nerf fest because the devs are incompetentand don't forget the powercreep
>>557158510The point is to exploit the dev oversight and clear it before they nerf it.
oh no, the spore nerf will make nine oneshot with slightly less overkill dmg, the game is dead
>>557160098Post your spore decks
Nerfs are good.The devs want us to challenge ourself and built better decks.
what drives concernjeets that don't play the game to post their concerns every single day?
>>557136939
>>557159426Flashes are fucking useless thoughBut I guess retardos who don't play the game will see it as a rare and valuable item
>>557160581izzat farming
>>557160528Yeah sure lol, THAT's absolutely why they nerf things
>>557145384>>557140686
>>557140686is the effect the enemy not dealing damage, or the enemy not attacking? i assume it's the first because wtf is the point of the second one?
>spores nerfedKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I KNEW TO NOT JUMP ON THE TRAIN
>>557161239>>557134883Huh, how are you doing 800 damage on a crit with opening found extra retain withese stats?
my spore Beryl still setup on 1 turn and clear all solo
Tyrant on Blue Pot is the shittiest thing ever
wg jesus says Orlea is still broken
Did they fix Chorizo yet?
>>557163881yes
>>557162808Went back and checked and she's only doing 613 damage on crits now. Could've sworn she was hitting 800+ before this, I might just be hallucinating shit my bad anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcEnhytJHDA
>>557164161this was before spores got nerfed tho
>>557164459>this was before spores got nerfed thoDid you even watch the video retard?
>>557164114I mean that's still better than mine, which was 447 on the boss and 500 in the tower. Look like I need to go back to the mines for second method.
>>557164701Cope.
>>557164459>mention spores>watch the video>no spores?
>>557152272>Uwhere's renoas husband
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWMsVn3Otms
>>557166253The video was made before spores were nerfed though that guy was right
Downloading now what do i expect
Holy moly.
>>557166747Nerfs.
>>5571667191 + 2 = 4?>>557166562how did they not die at 0 health
>>557166747game is literally unplayable bro
>>557166747Ass in your face
>>557166719video was made before spores nerf, sure, technically. but then that makes the comment fucking redundant since he's implying they were using spores when they weren't used at all.
>>557166805I mean, not really that good right? You proc this through other characters
>>557166747it's fun
>>557164459>>557165228Retard lole
>>557166747Decent fun for a while when new season starts once you got a few characters built up.
>>557167554It's pretty good on my Rei.
What is the difference between Honed Edge and Honed Edge+?
>>557167917>170damn you guys do high level chaoses...
>>557168542The second one has a +
>>557168542Honed Edge buffs herselfHoned Edge+ buffs everyone
>>557166747fun probably
>>557169281Any proof to back this up?
>>557169654our guys is live, ask himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmzMEFNyZ3o
>>557168542>>557169654
how do I 9/9 with sereniel? what deck and teammates do I need?
>>557170234search it on youtube
>>557169954Where does this come from? prydwen is such a piece of trash
>>557170420https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/cards
>>557170460>wikiThat's not proof, retardGOD.
>>557170619????
>tfw still can't decide to roll nine or not
>they're giving out these retarded flashes instead of apologems nowSad.I wonder what they're going to do with rift because people certainly won't be clearing 500k health bard after the spore and Chizu nerfs.
>>557171045I deliberated for a while and then built Magna instead.
>>557171131How'd they nerf Chizuru?
>>557170827You fed a troll
>>557171256You used to be able to do this
>>557170827I need either an ingame explanation proof or a gameplay showcase.A wiki is no different than prydwen where anybody can write anything.>>557171278retardSINGULARITY
>>557171543Thanks for replying like a mongoloid to the only guy interested in answering my question so nobody follows it up to not put up with you, fucking faggot
>>557171221>>557171221>Magna insteadI love her and wish she was good but how the fuck did you come to that conclusion they aren't even remotely close in power or gameplay
>>557171543
>>557171389>that is a nerfretard
>>557171045Everyone has 200+ pulls by now. No reason to save it.
I think he's trying to say he's CONCERNED about Smilegook's mistranslations ruining his cheese decks
>>557171997>retardretard
>>557172079GIGAretard
>>557172018I don't like rolling for a boring design on principle
>>557172125She's hot though. The moment I saw her fat thighs on the banner I immediately rolled.
>>557171938Thanks for finally posting proof instead of your ad-ridden site, shillcuck.
>>557172290>shillcuckbraindamage
>>557172290ok so you're just dumb then, that wiki is a 1:1 copy of the game's descriptions
>>557172391I'm surprised he didn't go for the "can't trust ingame prompts because it could be mistranslated" angleYou never know with these subhumans
>>557168654You mean high tier chaos, right? You can do tier 14+ on any 75+ level chaos.
>>557171921i don't care about ranking and i didn't need nine to clear all other content >>557093483i also like this stupid cat much more
>>557172552>can't trust ingame prompts because it could be mistranslatedi love the game but literally half the cards and items are mistranslated
>>557172358I accept your concession.>>557172391>that wiki is a 1:1 copy of the game's descriptionsSorry but I am not as a naive cuck as you.If an ingame description is wrong I get apologems.If a fansite is wrong I get nothing.Fansites are the worst proof you can post.
>>557149376I uninstalled this game last thread and I think anybody sensible enough to see that this game has no future or will be miserable to play (as devs keeps showing us they don't know what they're doing) should do the same.
>>557172663>still feeding the troll
>>557172785>he hangs out in the general of a game he doesn't play
>>557172891I wish smilegooks would pay more for translators than their shill defense force.Oh wait you ae doing it for free!
>>557093483>>557172635yeah very nice actually, also unexpected magna deck, could probably be improved?why does it say copy 2 if you only have one?
>>557173103>ae
>>557173103holy shit anon you have no situational awareness at all
>>557172552That's true though.
>>557173232i had to delete a copy of frost charge to free up data, i was doing a low tier run so that's on meideally i wanted 2 of them for more consistent vuln stacking, didn't really need the divine epi but that's how the cards fell
>>557173103>ask question>reply gets posted>have this half an hour long melty about fansites and white knighting and whatever the fuckyou can stop now bro
>>557173260>pointing out a typo>>557173271>no counter argumentI accept both of your concessions.
>>557157791>Alcea nurf againThis is horrendous. They literally nerfed an on-stock paid character, twice.Why didn't gook whales sue them already?
>>557173630>ask question>get weak sauce response>ask for more precise response>get the more precise responseYou can go back to your echo chamber that doesn't question anything posted.
someone please post a good renoa deck
Prediction:Tiph has a multiplicative damage buff/debuff. They tuned spore prop so Tiph would actually be used in rift. Beryl/Orlea would be the better Nine supports otherwise.They will fuck it up though, and Beryl will steal Nine's spot, just like what happened to Chizu in the first rift.
>>557173874Yeah, this is absolutely what happened. NOT that you behaved like a complete braindead faggot throwing a fit the whole time.Good for you buddy, I believe in you.
>>557174210Believable.
>>557174626>uhm no you're a faggotLmao again I accept your concession.
>>557174779based retardGOD
Prediction: Tiphera will exhaust millions of my seed.
>>557175014Time to return to your echo chamber, cuck.
>>557175416huh? But I was politely asking for a more precise response anon, just like you
>>557174192I dont know if its amazing, But this has been working out well enough for me. You can probably tinker with getting an extra dupe of flower, last ditch, or echo of sorrow.
People are still using Renoa in Season 2: Seed of Karmic Fire?
>>557149280>>no penetration shown whatsoeverGaya's mouth is technically penetration.
>>557159312The last time they gave out apologibs was for Sereniel being a Limited is though 30% cheaper said there "weren't any Limiteds or anything like that"Since then, they have nerfed multiple things, including nerfing 2 characters all the way into the ground, nerfing an on-banner 5* signature Partner, nerfing one of the Season gimmicks, and they didn't even give out any apologibs for their broken promise of not having 150 floors of the Tower playable during Narja's banner and *also* timegating it to be a weekly thing. None of these received any apologibs. Apologibs are now a thing of the past.
>>557172018Keep in mind, just having shit RNG one (1) time can eat 140 rolls, so having 200+ rolls really doesn't mean anything. That only means you can guarantee pity one character, but that you might struggle to pity the next one. Besides, it's the principle. The game should definitely shill the units more than Season 1 did, but no one should ever feel like they should roll a unit that they don't even like.
>>557176172yeah, she's fun.
>>557176172I wish people posted their comps more
I'm guessing those seasonal Chaos missions for things like "Defeat Replicated Looty" and "Defeat Replicated Vine Lord" are based on things that haven't been added yet, right? Unless there's a way to damage those Lumen guys before they teleport away, I haven't seen anything like that.
>>557179942The catgirl is a time mage and her gimmick will be remove buffs from enemies by "passing turns", which might also activate [Retain] effects and other turn-progressing abilities.
>>557180097Don't know if you made it up but sounds cool.
>>557180173I made it the fuck up, but the other fat pussy seemed to have time magic shit, and Rita says that we already met her before, so she's doing time stuff too. I still wonder if they redesigned Millia to be Rita but forgot to remove Millia from the game, or maybe after they rework the story, we won't have met Millia, or maybe Millia *is* Rita somehow though time shenanigans
>>557180367this bitch is supposed to bring back exhausted cards to your hand with her ego skill so definitely a lot of time shiti wonder if she might have something like that one card from hearthstone that lets you to take a "picture" of your hand and get it back when you later use the "picture"
>>557180594Or, you know what would be insane and would get CZN in trouble eventually, is if she can steal buffs from the enemy. That'd be bonkers.
>>557180367>time shenanigansIt wouldn't be the first time this plot beat has happened in a story, especially in a gacha. FEH did the same thing 2-3 years ago.
>>557181073>can steal buffs from enemiesuntil they slap on a "can't be stolen" stipulation on every buff in the future, making her useless.
>>557181073Seen it before. The devs will just double down on invisible buffs like those sparkle effects bosses get above diff 9.
>>557180594imagine putting five exhausted hews into your hand
what buffs are even worh stealing?
>>557181879"Can't take damage for one turn"
>>557181392>>557181476Yeah, I guess. Give a gimmick to a unit, invalidate the gimmick next season. Balthier only really had 1 fight he was ever good at. >>557181879Well, the "big" thing is that it makes the penalties that give the enemy Fortitude or Moral not actually penalties and instead buffs for (You)
>>557181879it would help protect you from any chaos modifier that says, "enemies gain X fortitude/morale every Y turns".
>>557181793>Y-you want me to generate HOW much AP? AHHH I'M GOING INSANE!
Praying for Tiphera to get a rapebait mindbreak like ChizuCHUU
did everyone just stop using mei lin?
>>557183670Yeah? They're slapping the anti mei lin buff on every single fucking boss now, the fuck do you want us to doShe's dead
>>557183670you can't do the multi attack to deal with the event boss so she is shelved, i saw someone do hugo and mei lin team though
>>557183670I like other characters more, and I could never get a good deck for her last season despite trying for hours.
>>557183795Can't you beat the boss doing 7 multiattacks at a time?I don't have her
>>557182596Amen
when are we getting any news about the new character?
>>557184431the day before Nine's banner ends
homete
>>557184596Why isn't there slop of Magna getting petted?
stop talking about magna, no one gives a fuck about that brick
>>557185080I carePlease talk more about magna.
>>557155606no anon that line is mistranslated its 50% damage inc if the enemy doesn't take damage for the turn.i said that in the comment.I was questioning if it buffed allies by 50% or not. If its for only the equipped unit then its pointless having it on your dps unless you intentionally stall inbetween turns.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbIDqIN_glI&disable_polymer=1
>>557185185She reminds me of that girl from Rwby
>>557185080I rerolled for Magna and ran the full counter team, but it turns out it's not that good. I wish counters were better.
Playing endfield made me understand how important the story isLooking forward to the rewrite
>>557185291i hit the angels in tower for like 5k damage every turn just from counters to their multihitsthey do solid damage now if you fully block incoming damage and build some crit
>>557185291I will build a full counter team that can beat the nebula boss even if I die trying.That's my mission.
>>557184596She does look familiar
>>557186096magna would be the best girl in this game if she had modest B-C cups
Now that I think about it, doesn't Magna just hardcounter Blue Pot's interior boss since it spams attacks so much?
For me it's big earsI need her
>>557180097>>557180367You can see her gameplay in the original gameplay trailer
>>557186423My wife, the 151st pokemon, is so cute
>>557183670literally what is the point. at this point the correct save data meilin build is no basics, no unity, four copies of passionspire, and you stack it entirely with veronica and spores.
this is bullshit bro
>>557186990Do you not have any decks with spores?
how many gems you guys got?I'm at 50k
>>557183670I'd like to keep using her, but she was always a massive pain in the ass to get good decks for, this season has it out for card spammers in general to the point that even Sereniel is underperforming, and Elasticity is becoming a standard boss effect. It's looking like the only thing I'd be able to use Mei Lin for is farming Potentials anyway, so I may as well just keep using the deck I made for her in season 1.Sucks, too. She was the first character I invested in so I hate seeing her on the bench. But that's the way it goes. I'm kinda hoping they eventually buff her whole Ravage+Embers play style so she isn't such a one-trick pony and she still has another build if Elasticity keeps cucking her.
>>557186990I can do the 1k one, but I think I'm just gonna let the 5 gems from the 1.5k and the 3k one go. I will say, I hope they stop trending in this direction. Losing 5 gems is a huge deal, but I don't like how "perfectly" the content is designed specifically around Nine so far.
>>557187442>I'd like to keep using her, but she was always a massive pain in the ass to get good decks for, this season has it out for card spammers in general to the point that even Sereniel is underperformingMaybe start farming in Zero System like a thinking human being?
>>557183670i used her yesterday and posted my kicks in the thread
>>557186990amir can do this with this epi and a vuln stack maybe
>>557187578I think you missed the point bro
Why do I only get kryken's messenger? I thought there were supposed to be a version for every god.
>>557187790I did some rerolls this morning and got two kyrken and one Sekred
>>557187464I think these mini-episodes with text box stories are good content and it's a much better "test drive" for the new character than we've had before (christ, those Narja trials seemed intentionally designed to make her look fucking awful). As long as the reward structure is better, it'll be great. The challenge spaces shouldn't give completion stars or gems, and should instead give potential, promotion, and leveling materials for the unit they're shilling. Like how they changed the Chaos Loot system, it's always better to make it look like you're getting extra rewards rather than being gatekept from the basic rewards.
>>557187790>I thought there were supposed to be a version for every god.You get to meet chaos gods, but only in dataless challenges. Diallos has really fucking cool background. But if you're talking strictly about messengers - yeah, I think only Kyrken's Messenger is in the game.
>>557175921Thanks.What's the thought behind this?you create 3 bullets and discard them with the flower? then instant judgement -> last ditch ->ballad?Why is it called Ballad anyway can the bitch sing?
>>557188181A ballad can refer to a poem, and she's a poet.Typically the Renoa strat is to fill the deck with as many Dirge Bullets as possible, then after a shuffle you use Nia's Ego Skill to turn Renoa into a mounted gatling gun.
>>557164161>>557188181
Chizuru enjoying herself with some of her oniric, will o wisp frens after a hard day of work.
>>557187596Never used Amir before in chaos. Does she need a shield partner?
>>557188762KinoBest feature of the game, they need to add so much more stickers
>>557164161Jesus.
>>557189369I will never be this lucky with artifactslop, in any game.
>>557189145it's preferable but you can go the usual dps + mika route
>>557164161>>557188641very cool thank you
>>557189369>>557189564It's probably just ATK% on IV
Renoa would be better with an AR16
>>557190165Anon. That's more ATK, more Crit Chance, and more Crit Damage than I have on *any* character. I don't have 1000 ATK on *any* character. I don't have 64% Crit Chance on *any* character. I don't have 192% Crit Damage on *any* character, let alone all on the same character.
>>557185250That's too much of a mistranslation to believe you... yet, I do. Not surprised with this game anymore.
>>557188181>thought behind thisI never really planned out the deck that much to create an order of operations as i dont always have all of those cards in hand at the same turn. I just find this to be fairly efficient and "ergonomic".3 bullets a turn is a good amount of damage each turn and ensures you have ample bullets to work with, The flower upgrade let's you recycle all 3 for free damage or help full your hand for last ditch assault, and ballad helps keep your deck lean by exhausting all the bullets in the graveyard. After a few turns, ballad hits like a truck, and it can combo with last ditch assault like you said.You can combo her with nia for some fun interactions, such as filling your deck with bullets, and activating nia's ego skill to discard them all again.
>it's another episode of me trying to trigger Rei's Therapy BreakdownI don't know why I'm like this.This is like the third time this week.
>rape rei>mindwipe>rape rei>
>>557190567that's why i linked the video evidence of someone testing it.the gooks are somehow mistranslating it so badly the description text effect is literally backwards. I really don't understand why they can't just use Ai for this it would be unironically better.
>>557188762Fatty hoards ALL the food and doesn't have any to spare for poor Rei (or Coco)
>>557173462what about the glacial fist? You think that one's the best?
>>557186990Use the morale-giving partners with>>557187596and vulnerables + crit.Remember that you don't need to get the 3 stars at the same run, feel free to stall until ego bar is filled.
>>557190887Yes, thanks anon. According to the video, it seems it works fine if you do damage w/o an attack card, so maybe it's meant for the (now slightly nerfed) solo Sporyl team.
Counseling Nine is giving me Sten vibes.
>>557186990your cat?https://streamable.com/rqc5dh>>557191432in my comp from the video i'd actually prefer another black hole on kayron and to delete the fist, but the fist is nice if i decide to play her without kayron, so i kept itand yes that fist is the best possible one
>>557191969What about Veronica?
>>557172018Haha, yeah...
>>557192338Isn't the ballista an attack card? Probably doesn't work.
>>557193107It is, but the way it gets counted is weird sometimes. There are things that proc on attack card usage but don't get procced by ballistas.
Rita needs a fatter pussy
>>557193926True. Her pussy needs to be at least as fat as millia's is/was.
>>557186990Just use Amir/Maribell, bro.
>>557194013so puffy...
>>557179942I do have Looty completed. AFAIK those are about taking the bottom right attack option when you encounter them in an event node. They have a lock thing saying available in 12d or whatever for missions we can't complete yet. Pic related should be the vine lord one but I haven't seen it yet.
>>557189369Someone do the math and figure out how close this is to being truly perfect. I didn't even think it was possible to get crit chance that high. Crit chance and crit damage are the least common substats to roll and he must have at least +2 to both on all 6 pieces
>>557164459Another (You) for your retardation. At least be sensible when you are complaining.
>>557195025it's 20CR and 30CD from substats. any day 1 player assembling their best 2/2/2 will have the same idk why you're so amazed.
>good cards>trash itemsEvery time
>>557195709There's literally not a single person in here with 75% crit chance
>>557196254that picture says 64.5 crit chance. 27 + 10 + 5 = 42% crit chance comes for free, so 75 is quite a bit bigger than 64.5.
>>557196738thought you meant everyone would have 20+30+25 sets by now and I was tripping
>>557164161>>557164459this video was made before this post was made
>>557196039where's all your other save data?
>>557197353nta but i delete them for money
>>557197353I started using Rei this event.
>>557196039>stacking morale in the current yearGet with the times old man
>>557197638wtf bro they are memories...
>>557199579*kiss*
>>557199837>memories of getting KNOTed or TENTACLEd
>>557196039Why does a support need gear?
>>557194551That Maribell's attack is not defense-based, I think it is labelled as fixed damage.
>>557194551That's shield-scaling fixed damage.
>>557203404>>557203961Fug. Whelp, time to get a Narja defense boosting deck and punch really hard with Magna.
>>557200870Narja sure is popular amongst artists.
>>557204337She looks cool + sexy mutant girls.
I regret not rolling for NarjaNow I'm never gonna get her
MILKI NEED MORE BELLA
>>557204821It makes me happy seeing the game get art.
>>557205415Wdym, Narja is not seasonal. You can get her at any time.
>>557205415That's why I rolled for her. I knew I'd never get her if I didn't. Unfortunately, I didn't roll for Chizuchu. I think she's cute and I like her voice but I had no idea she'd be getting a buff. I rolled Haru recently, but I never had any interest in Haru. I wish it would have been Chizu or a dupe.
>>557205958I skipped her and still got spooked. Your turn will come soon enough.
>>557206185
>>557205958why does she have Goofy ears again
Is it unoptimal to roll standard hero banner after you get the free 5 star? Seems like it’s a better idea to use it on the standard partner banner since you can get the 5 star hero when you fail the 50/50
>>557206848I'd say stick with the Combatant banner and buy partners with the pink DNA strands you get from rolling. I'd be a hypocrite, but that's what I'd say.
>>557206848>you can get the 5 star hero when you fail the 50/50>Failing the 50/50>On the partner banner???
>>557206848>Is it unoptimal to roll standard hero banner after you get the free 5 star?There are no additional guaranteed 5*s after you get your first from the guaranteed banner. >Seems like it’s a better idea to use it on the standard partner banner since you can get the 5 star hero when you fail the 50/50Huh? The standard Partner banner is only for Partners. You also can't fail the 50/50 on a Standard banner. What do you mean? Personally I think 5* Partner banner is a waste and if there is a standard Partner that you absolutely think you need, you should buy it with DNA strands
what do you think of my id banner guys
>>557207498
Can a guy get a Hew epiphany around here? Damn
otsukaresama DEEEEEESU~
>>557208352Can't you use that flash of inspiration item on that save data to make it good?
>>557208718he could, yeah
>>557207115>>557207154>>557207171You can get a 5 star standard hero on the limited banner but you can’t get a 5 star standard partner on the limited partner banner so limited hero banner is basically the same as the standard when you lose the 50/50 but u will never get an old 5 star partner unless you roll the standard partner banner
>>557208352>take neutral>get cuckedclassic
>>557208809if you want an old partner pay the 300. gambling on standard partner banner is insane.
>>557207498Who is this lewd harlot?
>>557209030But I want to use the 300 on limited rolls
>>557209373Do whatever you want, anon. It's your account.
>>557207498Unironically hot
>>557196039gear effects are minimal though cards are the important thing.some min-maxing weirdos are even running 0 deck rei with nude gear slots
>>557184737
>>557211537>becomes generic moeblob face
>>557211537wtf so cute
>>557211537Pretty good.
help
>>557211537Cute
>>557212520this happened to me twice it just freezes the game until you restart
What the fuck they murdered AlceaIs there even any reason to roll for her now?
>>557214759she does exactly what her card said before
>>557215009The multiplayer isn't the only thing they changed. Now only the combat who partners with her can use her debuff, so you can't just run her on a support and team up with whoever you want anymore. I'm pretty sure her card didn't mention that before.Normal devs would had refounded her, but we deserve nothing for being smilegate slaves.
>>557217265The gibs are over. That was 2025. It's 2026 now.
Elevens are ANGRY about the nerf
>>557217694Show the tweets
>>557217694What's elevens
>>557218963Mongrel dogs that couldn't do anything until a Britannian carried their asses to independence
next banner?
>>557218963Japanese.
>>557171221>>557171921Honestly, Magna + Nine is a pretty fun combo.You can build around stacking vulnerability and shields.Nine has an epiphany that lets her use a Hew on ally counter-attack, and skill that lets her use it for free at the start of the turn. You'll never have to cast it for its 3, or even 2-cost.I wonder if it's overkill, tho.One complaint that I have, is that having a healer as a third wheel seems a little awkward, less optimal? Mika gives you crazy sustain and AP. But you stack so much vulnerability with counters that you never end up using all of it.
except i didnt ask?
>>557221126Same.
>>557089048>do nothing>win
>>557221074Narja with her defense-boosting epis seems like the optimal support for that team. She'd need to focus on triggering her own Voracity stacks, though.
>>557221126Shes a fun once you get her going and stacked.
>>557222506Do you still build her for stacking Anchor Shots or do you just go the combo build
>>557221126Big JK titties don't care you didn't ask
>get the dogfucker in a "+2 fury for every enemy killed"Fuckign retarded devs...
>>557222576Combo just works right out the gate, why wouldn't you pick it
>>557224105>he's still going into mutant red nodes>he's still going into mutant red nodes in interior 2nd half
>>557224687That was the standard chaos modifier though...
>>557224809dogfucker is from the mutant types of enemies (three niggas is passion element/chaos order type, robots are justice/diallos, etc.)
>>557225115Did they change it so "elite" basic enemies no longer spawn on normal red nodes?
>>557224809>>557225115
>>557225385you can tell if a fight is an elite because they have a flaming icon anyways>>557225386
>>557225386I'm doing the event chaos, and the +2 fury on kill was one if it's 4 default modifiers. Idk if i said it incorrectly. While green are the majority, there's like 1/3 enemies that are red faggots.>>557225568When did they add this feature? I remember these fags could pop up on any red node.
Narja nipple teasing
>>557225734>Idk if i said it incorrectly.No I'm just berating you for stepping into red nodes in interior 2nd half with that modifier, any time that happens you're just asking to get your ass beatSpam event tiles, you want to find the dupe event anyways
>>557226089Nothing i could do there. During that run floor 2 had like 3 red walls in front, i just chose the one after the most event nodes.
>>557226381RIP
I just realized, why does a DoT character have crit nodes?
You've never seen this team before.
>>557206681She is a mutt (replica) mixed with Dumbo the elephant.>>557208560Heard that in her voice, damn it.
>>557227074Most folks grew up in a nuclear family, anon.
do you think we will ever get an offline version? I'm tired of all the nerfs...
>>557229452just mod STS
>>557229349cute wife
>>557229558I play STS for the gameplay but I play CZN for the goon.
>>557230163then mod STS for the goon lol
>>557229349>her hand orb has a heartCUTE
>>557230226even if I use all the mods in the world STS will never have the same animation level as CZN.
>>557226931Her Cursed Combo that scales off agony can do some insane dmg.But they literally didn't think about most the starter roster. Like Rei who has dps potentials despite being a buffer (even with the heal changes she still has 2 big dps potentials).
Just lost a run because Narja had a breakdown right at the Interior boss FUUUUUUUUUCK I HATE MICROMANAGING STRESS
>Game is doing so well they advertise the launcher's own shit with it>Still can't do a Steam releaseThey HATE money
>>557232326>doing well>never tell people their income againanon,they will lose more money if they dont force you to keep watching their dogass youtube video from their retarded launcher
>>557221239the shroom gets nerfed bozoshe wins nothing
>>557234059How many times do other gacha companies just announce income randomly eh?
>>557234398Hoyoverse, Kuro, Hypergryph and many more you fucking mutt.
>>557234398They don't unless you live on planet retard
>557236951
>>557236951That’s not what he asked, illiteratebro.
The amount of bugs, lack of testing and mistranslations are killing my interest in the gameAfter all the shit they got about translations its crazy theres still so many errorsThe Alcea thing especially left a really bad taste in my mouth, and all the non stop chizuru bugs
Concern...
i think im done with this game. i already uninstalled yesterday after they nerfed spores, but ill continue to shitpost in a general for a game that i no longer play.
>three (3)! whole fucking epiphanies in a chaos runI see other anons are having similar things happening. It's another bug isn't it?
Tiphera drip marketing doko?
I reinstalled and then uninstalled so tomorrow I can say I uninstalled yesterday again.
>>557240236It's my turn to say it tomorrow.
>>557221126You will take that back in mid-season, it's going to do JUSTICE to your pull.
I forgot to reinstall to uninstall today...
>>557239839Lower level chaos triggers less epiphanies.
>>557242579Pssst let the brainlets run tier 8 event chaos over and over again.
>>557240236I uninstalled the game from my PC I don't know what the fuck is going on with that Stove client it's like Google chrome that eat your ram. I'm still playing the game on my phone, turnout gaming on phone is comfy no wonder Japan love it, the game run smoothly on my 6 years old $200 Chinese phone. Probably I'm going to buy gaming phone just to try other gacha games on phone.
the mines...they aren't calling me anymore
Only masochists still play this kusoge.
>>557245583... and still post here.
>all these neutrals>they still let me hit all my copiesblessed
>>557248356>no +1 ap residual herbinto the trash it goes
I’m confused at how the devs seem to simultaneously be trying to prevent power creep but also power creep at the same timeNew combatants seem to do better than previous 5* combatants, Nine is virtually just a better Haru in almost every way. But at the same time they are extremely stubborn about making powerful partners. Most of the 5* partners except for Peko can literally be swapped for the f2p alternative because chances are you have a max ego f2p 4* that can provide a bigger damage buff over the e0 5* you just pulled that only gives mediocre damage increase
Holy fuck already nerfed, no fun allowed
>>557248932show your roster nigga
>>557248932Not making powerful partners is okay when compared to shits like wuwa/hsr where they lock half of the 5*'s kit behind the weapon
>>557248932>Most of the 5* partners except for Peko can literally be swapped for the f2p alternativeI don't see the issue? It's great that a signature isn't paramount to a character's performance.
The spore nerf is iffy but are people really okay with Alcea's nerf? A rate up partner that you have to spend premium currency/swipe for?
Is the news about unhappy nips mass refunding Alcea real or not
>>557249512>>557250747This game is just stingy, no fun allowed, and buggy/low effort as fuckFeels like the devs don't give a fuck anymore
>>557252475it's fake
>>557252475It was never meant to be a 100% damage buff (bugged). You can see here in the Japanese notes it's 20% at 1 stack max.
>>557177247>no one should ever feel like they should roll a unit that they don't even likeThat's literally their job
>>557190368That's a 2/2/2 set though so it has inflated attack/critdam.
>>557249512That's it, I'm uninstalling!
Yuki bros...
Guys nerfs are ALWAYS a good thing, gooks riot at the slightest provocation which means COMPENSATION. I hope SG fucks up constantly so I get a steady stream of free shit.
bros...the god run has started
>>557255207You have the selection buff unlocked, don't you...?
>>557254817Enjoy your 1 (one) flash as compensation
>>557255302:^)
>>557253587If they caught and fix the bug on day 1-2 it would've been whatever, they fixed it a whole WEEK after her banner releasedWhat they "meant" does not matter, people compared Alcea and Wilhelmia in chaos with the Distortion adaption, watched damage calcs, and agreed that she is way better than Wilhelmia, so they pulled. This is literally false advertising
Bros why was my Amir, Maribell and Mika run actually really good. maybe it's amir being E6 or is she a sleeper unit. I've only played for a week...
>>557256493What run?Baby tier 8 event chaos?
Beryl is emblematic of the worst of CZN design.Was intended to have a play style that would theoretically be pretty interactive and satisfying to pull off. Almost all of her cards are telling you to do this, with minor variations.But then there's one epiphany that reduces her other cards to just "does it say retain on it" while ignoring everything else on the card, and it scales multiplicatively when copied so it's really busted when you farm chaos enough to win the 3-copy roulette with good items. Meanwhile her cards are otherwise so undertuned that the thing she was supposed to do sucks ass.
>>557257265She performs alright in Chaos in her normal playstyle and the upgrade path is terrible in chaos. This all goes back to constructed being a bad mode.
>>557256493double vanguard is very strong in chaos, even if it's amir and maribell
Tressa feels like shit these days, even when i didnt get heal daggers it wasnt too bad to run her, the new agony change is terrible
>>557258569It's only going to get worseBeryl and Rei are next on the chopping blockThey will make it so only the current banner character is viable
>>557255207Did you get a good niggwalsky epiphany too?
>>557254817>save data as compensation doesnt do shit when you spam codex in the end>why even farming deck when they will nerf shitdogshit compensation for your times at codex arent worth of a thing unless you just play codex twice per weekwhy even play the game at this point
>>557254532Everything I said still stands. I don't have any character with even one (1) of those stats that high, and I also use attack and crit damage sets.
How are HaruGODS building her this season now that deckbuilding doesn't suck donkey dick?I've been thinking about the best way to make her work and this is the best I could come up with.In theory with this exact build you should be able to play 5 anchor shots every single turn (organic draw, 3 pointers and critical return) after setup. Of course it requires quite a few godly epiphanies but still.
>>557254532i gave up getting this kind of gear when i had 2 near-perfect right side pieces (double crit atk% + 1 dump stat) roll everything into the dump statshit unironically feels worse than hsr despite flat stats being actually good here
>>557258962NTA but that fucker gets deleted
>>557252475>>557250747which nerf? they did not change her card text at all
>>557244175>77 clearswtf?
Special valentine lobby screen of Renoa sucking my cock where
>>557259759i think for haru, fishing for the +30% damage divine epi on her strongest-hitting anchor is more important than AP on pointersall that AP on pointers achieves is it makes her not chained to mika, but honestly I don't mind it, she's a much better teammate for her than narja because narja only gives additive buffs
>>557226931do not look at Magna potentials...
>>557260408At least counterattacks can actually crit now
>>557260505
>>557260308Solid point on the anchor shot epiphany.The reason for using narja and the AP is simply to have a thin, consistent deck that guarantees playing everything every turn, even with the worst possible draw order.Does mika buff Haru in any way? Narja has predation + 1 ap cheating and the requirement is playing shackles once every turn.What would you do differently?
>>557260505Wait, really? I quite working on her after I found that out.
>>557260747Yeah, they buffed counterattacks in the season 2 patch. Now you can land critical hits with them.
I'm retarded, I can't get double vanguard working properly in higher tier chaos runs
>>557261402Just shield?
>>557260676i'm doing it in my head so correct me if i'm wrongharu deck - divine anchor, 3 pointers, lift, charge upgrade, erase the restmika deck - deluge, blessing of waves (hold in hand without casting), 3 divine sources with drawi am missing 2 ap to cast the 4th anchor every turn here, so the last member could be veronica with ap repose, or maybe nia with ap adagioalternatively you try to get a haru with divine anchor and 3 divine ap anchor searches, but that'd need a max tier run where you get both of those divines, in theory that's the strongest possible haru deck though
I rolled for Nine's partner banner and got her without losing the 50/50. Was it worth?
>>557261787>got her without losing the 50/50Sis...
>>557260676oh, you could also go with a divine ap source on mika (so each source gives 2 ap) for 9 total ap per turn, and run a card drawer as your 3rd to draw the deck out every turn
>>557261787There is no 50/50 on partnersAnd she just got nerfed
>>557261981Oh.. still worth or no? I only just started playing and Nine is my only good unit.
>>557261981>And she just got nerfedwrong
>>557262186nothing got changed, her text was not changed and will not be changed she is working like she was announced
>>557260676and going off the mika with divine source idea, you can go with just the anchor shot divine on haru and get 4 anchor searches instead, then as long as your card drawer has at least one +ap card you'll have 10 ap to cast it 5 times, (or i guess you could run glorious resistance lol)OR you could get a max tier mika with 4 sources
>>557261774Let me make some quick math here and asume the worst possible draw orderYou have lift anchor and blessing of waves retained in hand Your draw pile consists on>3 anchor pointer>1 anchor shot>3 sources with draw>what is the worst possible draw order here?Probably 1 anchor shot and 1 source which is still all 3 sources. That's 6 AP.If you have some reposes with 1AP, and they're all at the bottom, you're drawing no extra cards but have 7 AP. Which is still fine, I have E2 Haru so I can still blap anchor 5 times every turn (assuming I crit once) even if it's not at full power.So it comes down to ceiling vs consistency.I'll concede any day that your version is probably less nightmarish to farm but I would honestly burn a flash to get this deck, even if I got the 30% divine epi on the dogshittiest anchor shot I'd swap that shit on a heartbeat.>>557261945>>557262318I don't like that as much because draw order can fuck you up (see above). I don't want to be playing a fight and seeing 4 anchor pointers with no AP and 1 anchor shot and passing, that's sad.Maybe this is not the deck I should be thinking about with a consistent gameplan, autistic minmaxx grindset.
>>557262190>>557262239No matter how you put it, she got gutted (and wasn't even that strong before the nerf)Also>>557217265
>>557262521i'm going to theorycraft it later to try making it 100% consistent like my kayron magna team, i love haru anyway so it's about time i did itthank you for throwing out the idea
>>5572626592.5x damage multi on a hit isn't strong?
>>557262673Oh so you're that guy. I'm the other kayron anon, I was thinking about Haru and throwing some ideas around.I'm having a hard time living without Narja, she's so good.Take care brother!
>>557261596Feels like my shields get busted open the further I get into chaos
>>557249512Good.If you're gonna do insane damage it has to be more complicated than stack 1 status effect to infinity.I'm glad they learned from the TCM fiasco and are adapting more swiftly now.
>>557262659you are braindead, she was bugfixedher debuff worked in an unintended way
>they nerfed something >againJust remove the leaderboard, man. Fuck these devs.
retarded concern poster you are 12 hours late...
>>557263608Sorry hopejeet, I don't play CZN 24/7. Do you enjoy that they keep nerfing things solely because there is a leaderboard in the game? Personally I don't.
>>557263701yeah don't care, i never stacked the spores above 4 i thinkit was a niche abusecalling it a nerf is just as braindead as calling a fix a nerftressa got nerfed to shit, that is something i would agree with
>>557263701I do.
>>557263448Yeah sure, you can call anything a bugfix if you try hard enough I guessWon't change the fact that she got destroyed and is now worth less than a 4* partner
>>557263853>>557264001>hopejeet is now saying that nerfs aren't nerfs>also we enjoy the nerfsYou continually surprise me with how much hope you gleefully jeet on a daily basis.
>>557264076Oh, and we don't even get any gibs anymore. We just get one of those cards that lets you change an epiphany.
>>557264004that is just wrong but who cares