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The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>556901325

>Nine (NEW) Character PV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btU93p-ft0M
https://youtu.be/7-QM7H_EkXc
>Balance Adjustments for Season 2
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11909138
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12011077
>Roadmap Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4
>Dev notes 02/04
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12012929

>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xtb66f3i
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant

>Current Featured Banner
[ Nine ] Order - Vanguard
Rate Up Period: 02/04/2026 - 02/25/2026

>Upcoming Featured Banners
Tiphera | Starts Feb25

>Current/Upcoming Events
Spiral Tower of Screams (Beta)
New Season - Seed of Karmic Fire | 02/04/2026 - 04/08/2026

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Check the Rentry (Rentry is gone, create a new one)

https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculator
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
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>tfw you don't want to pull Nine but this season's Chaos massively shills her
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>>557087162
Kino OP
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>>557087338
It's fine, we're getting two more Chaoses that shill the other two characters
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>>557087162
what is happening there
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>>557087424
I honestly don't know if that's worse or better. I only want the catgirl and that's only if her kit is good. I'm a hoarder in gacha.
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>do 1000 points of def dmg
how do I do that If I don't have Nine
>inb4 just roll on nine
nuh uh, I'm saving for the twintails
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>>557087470
You wouldn't get it
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>>557087549
>how do I do that If I don't have Nine
My Khalipe with the pure damage Vulture Ejection and a stack of Narja's Voracity does 1047 on crit.
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>>557087549
your Maribell?
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>>557087162
I dont get it.
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>>557087470
I don't think anyone knows.
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Who am I supposed to use to clear the Blue Pot boss?
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>>557087162
>>557087957
>>557087470
Looks like sex to me.
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>>557087957
She's autistic and weird from having been a literal test tube baby with no interaction with normal people. It probably got a laugh amongst her fellow experiments.
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>>557087549
I got up to like 2k with Narja and Predation stacking. The 3.5k quest is going to be panful, though.
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>>557087957
She just lies on whale and hovers. The reason Sereniel understands is cause she hovers all the time too.
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>>557088098
Anyone + Rally/Wanderer of the Void. It only got harder with the nerfs to those, though.
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I still don't get how orlea works
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>>557087916
the joke is that the thread is also quiet since it slowed down a lot
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We need an offhand mechanic
Something like a weapons stache for ballista, bullets, the shit generated by arena gear
My hand is overflowing
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>>557087470
You can always fuck Narja bent over.
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>>557089257
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>>557089324
This artist is singlehandedly carrying CZN on her back. Is she hired by the comp?
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>>557087808
>>557087770
>>557088569
Can Magna reach those numbers?
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>>557089598
She ought to be
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I'll save czn
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>>557089639
sure. with fist
1500 (or was it 3000? dont remember) is really low
any defense character can except maybe khalipe
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>>557089138
it only takes a few days to build a deck for 9/9 and play around with the combatants you like the most
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>>557089757
This one's adorable. They all are, but this one especially.
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>>557089825
the rei of light is still the cutest
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>>557090028
We like having hope around here
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>>557089793
feet in czn when
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Chaos is a ladder...
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Everyone is on Orlea's dick right now and I understand why but if the rift bosses have Necrosis too then I can't help but feel like using her might (literally) do more harm than good.
Would it be viable or even feasible to go for a Magna like this instead? No counterattack and eventually you'll only be drawing the one +3 vulnerable skill
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>>557089639
Did it with her. Take the fist epiphany for 540% damage. You may or may not need stack some spores + vulnerability, maybe some morale and naturally you need to crit
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Did they nerf the policy system? It feels like 1 of the 3 advisors barely ever appears.
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Any way to get Lab0 gear while having a deck from this season?
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Why does renoa not have a line of unigram events? She's the poster girl.
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>>557092174
no, you need to disable the current season's modifier for it to appear as an option
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>>557092174
Nope, lab0 won't spawn with the karmic modifier on
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>>557092174
nyo, they're separated seasonal content
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>>557092145
I once picked Yuki (happiness advisor) and two economy advisors since I only needed a tiny bit of happiness and didn't need the third stat. The game then proceeded to give me ALL Yuki policies until the final few days.
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>>557091020
Nah, only 1 vuln stack is consumed on hit, so that would stack too much.
If they put Necrosis on the boss it'll be because Tiphera is an Orlea sidegrade with shields instead of heals, probably.
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We kinda lack debuff specialists in the game. The vast majority of debuffs come from epiphs or a few neutral cards, so it would be cool if Tiph is a debuffer char.
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e3 kayronbro here, i finally cleared tower with him
i took some inspiration from another anon who did a similar comp with nine and narja and adapted it to not use nine or narja, and it worked out pretty well
it still loses hard to the nebula boss because of healing, but i already managed to beat it anyway
showcase here
https://youtu.be/MvtcaYXVNMQ
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>>557092571
Well it doesn't have to be that many copies. I guess you only need 2.
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>>557093483
it's kind of cool people still manage to find fun ways to play different characters, i love czn
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>>557093483
I assume I'm the guy you're talking about because I posted about my kayron/narja/nine comp the other day.
And hell yeah, your team rocks. You use kayron to deal way more than I did, in my case he sort of enables nine to scale faster and acts a dps support (but still pushes damage on his own)
I don't have a channel but I'm going to record a nebula boss kill for you so you can see it in action as well, I'm glad it inspired someone else to think about the box, it's the beauty of the genre.
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I went to fuckin 5 camps trying to get extreme hew and it wouldn't show up but I think I might just flash this shit if it's a good fit for sporlea and relevant in sticker battles
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>>557094521
>use flash
>still don't get it
your face?
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>>557094817
Flash doesn't have RNG you just get to choose from all options
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>>557094817
You can preview that without consuming it as well, forgot to mention
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>>557094425
yeah, thank you for the idea
i would love to see your clear as well, both nebula and tower
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I'm stuck on Difficulty 9. Everything is fine with Nine+Sereniel+Mika until the last boss starts spamming 1000+ damage attacks turn after turn. Halp
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I wonder if most of Nine's card are really useless or if she will have a better synergy with Tiphera.
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Tiphera will powercreep Veronica. Mark my words.
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>>557096180
Holy shit! Two wives!
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>>557095807
orlea rei nine is like giga FOTM or?
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>>557096087
They're not even bad, they're just not worth hand space when you can generate cards that give multiplicative dmg buffs.
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>>557096180
On who has the tightest pussy? Maybe.
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I just cannot make any good decks, I do not understand how everyone else is doing it and saying it's easy.
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>>557097838
What qualifies as a good deck to you?
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>>557097919
4 copies of a good card that has a good epiphany while trimming the rest of the fat from the deck. I can't even get 1 copy of a good card, let alone 3. I'm ending tier 15 Chaos runs with like 80-100 used Save Data.
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>>557098570
>don't get any money debuff, you need the coins to buy shit and reroll epiphanies
>focus your run on going through the most unidentified areas as possible, increasing your chance for rare events and free removals/money
That's basically all you have to do to be successful on most runs.
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>>557099248
That's what I am doing and the best I can do is get 1 dupe of a good card by sheer dumb luck.
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>>557095585
Been trying to upload the videos to litterbox but it won't stop timing me out. Sigh.
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>>557099248
>>557099381
Oh, and I should add, half the time I can't even get an epiphany on a card that the first boss lets me dupe.
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>>557099381
Is your codex upgraded?
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>>557099381
Impossible, anon. Even without the dupe event you have the two bosses, making it really easy to get at least 2 copies. Removing one of the epiphany cards (most agents have at least one useless card outside the basic ones) guarantees you your desired card. You're not filling your deck with neutrals, right?
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>>557098570
Sounds like you're missing the choose 3 from a character upgrade no? If you do have it then you should remove their rare cards so you have higher/guaranteed odds of duping the card you want.
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>>557099715
Authority is.

>>557099893
>Impossible, anon.
Not impossible, since I am describing what happens to me when I play this game.
>You're not filling your deck with neutrals, right?
Of course not.

>>557099974
>Sounds like you're missing the choose 3 from a character upgrade no?
I guess so. I don't have every tree upgraded, so if there's some option that gives you the choice on what card to duplicate, I don't have it.
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>>557100106
On chaos upgrades the latest node of the bottom section lets you choose the combatant you cant to copy the card from. It's very easy to manipulate their deck to always offer you the card you want to copy.
Go do that now
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>>557100106
It's the 3rd tier final upgrade, you should reset your tree and unlock it.
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>>557100178
>>557100206
If I reset my tree then I don't get Meditate though.
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>>557100106
If you don't have the upgrade that let's you choose the dupe target agent you're obviously going to suffer, silly.
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>>557100362
The node is permanently unlocked so you can just spend the amount of currency needed for that node and not everything else before that point.
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>>557095807
Why the fuck aren't you using Orlea?
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>>557100362
Once you unlock the node, you reset again and can pick and choose any upgrade you want with what you have.
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>>557100487
>>557100534
That's retarded. Or, I guess that's based, but you know what I mean. I'll do that tomorrow. I already closed the game out of frustration that my absolute best decks are just 2 copies of a good card that happen completely by accident while I'm seeing people post multiple decks that all have 4 copies of good cards and every bullshit card removed.
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is a trimmed deck the meta now??
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>>557100709
There is still rng to it of course but you probably won't feel like blowing your head off after a couple runs with the new upgrade. Maybe.
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>>557100858
trimmed bushes
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>>557100858
only if it's heart shaped
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>>557100930
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>>557100858
It's a card game. If you could play poker with nothing but hearts and diamonds above 10 in value, you would.
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Kids these days will never know what's spend 50 hours trying to get 3 copies of Move + stackable Kick for Mei Lin.
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>>557095585
Fucking finally. I had to compress the files like three times.
I played very fast so a brief explanation for the build: upgrades grant predation when drawing the selected card, hone edge on card exhaust, and AP cheating. I draw the one narja attack card to get 6 voracity every turn for sustain, I spam the kayron 0 cost attack for +1 AP and create two futilities than I exhaust with the Nine card. Hew Flash gets discounted and you start wrecking shit for free. When you can, dark hole for big damage.

Anyway, some disclaimers:
>the oath of vanity epiphany isn't ideal for the nebula boss because I can't play the fatalities or I die of necrosis, but it's okay for anything else
>if I really wanted to tryhard this comp I would spam chaos until both nine exhaust cards were 0 AP to play black hole every turn and I would have the singular narja attack card with the "Draw 1" epiphany, that way I get to play the whole deck every single turn
It was the theory, but taking the divine epiphany from Kayron's attack card took a while, it was 2AM and I just couldn't be bothered to run them back 20 times, I wanted to move to greener pastures. But I will work on perfecting that, eventually, because it feels amazing to drag cards and watch everything go boom.
Because of all of the above the nebula fight is a bit fucky (wasting time playing the blood cards, the draw order rng and the boss overall being a gigantic flaming faggot) so you "barely make it" sometimes, but I haven't lost once and I've retried the fight like 15 times to test the decks.
On the tower you can see on a less constrained environment how much the deck fucking shreds, it's kind of insane actually the amount of firepower on a single turn and sustain this shit has, I'm impressed. Kayron excels in this type of content because he infinitely scales, the longer it goes the more he deals.
Nebula boss clear: https://litter.catbox.moe/zwj8aetj3zel7a60.mp4
Tower 75 clear: https://litter.catbox.moe/18o5l5vifpasyifo.mp4
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>>557100858
Thin decks will always be good for any card game. It allows for more consistency to get your combo pieces. If you see that as bad, then you're simply retarded.
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>>557095807
>Sereniel
>to Plague Lord
There's your problem, you're doing both too little and too much. Let Nine carry your run.
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Is shaved deck the meta now?
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>>557101919
Please don't shave your d*cks, everyone
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>>557101919
Only for some characters. For most, they want it trimmed.
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>>557101217
very cool comp, the sustain is impressive, i didn't expect it to survive so well against the nebula
i guess the difference between your comp and mine is that i built mine around kayron while in yours he's more of a support to nine
so your team is much faster but mine can stall comfortably for a while to grow the black hole
i actually have an idea of how to make mine even better but i'd have to use 2 deck editor items so it's probably not worth it for now since the comp works well anyways
as for yours, yeah that oath epi definitely slows you down, but otherwise it's solid, i love it
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Will I like this game if I like tcgs (Hearthstone, Yugioh, Magic, Shadowverse, etc)?
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>>557103425
it's not a traditional card game, it's more like slay the spire
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>>557103379
Thanks bro, the nebula boss a huge motherfucker if you don't cheesse him. It's still a bit of a race, but one that I can keep up thanks to narja.
And yes, mine is more about clearing hordes with nine while kayron grows but given enough time he outperforms her. By the end he deals 11k damage with a black hole. I couldn't figure out a way to make him the main star of the show even if I wanted, the futilities are truly ass to handle, and I just have him on E1.
Sometimes I have to hold my 0 costers because I don't have the nine exhaust equivalent and that's because I didn't roll for the divine epis but I can't be assed, it still werks. I'll do it for the love of the game, eventually.
I'll try posting if I come up with more off the wall deck ideas. Maybe I'll do something with Rin, she was my first 5 stars. I have to think about it.
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>>557103425
I'm just gonna go ahead and say probably not. It's nothing like a TCG. It's mostly Slay the Spire.
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>>557104073
I wanna piss on her tits.
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>>557104868
stop and rethink that
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>>557104906
I've made up mind a long time ago, friendo.
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>>557104868
anon you gotta pee IN her not on her to mark her
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Protos would not piss on his combattants.
Except Hugo.
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>>557105551
I want to drench her slutty outfit on my pee and make her wear it all week.
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>>557089598
https://x.com/i/status/2021308138595442719
She's really happy with the attention she got with the gifs
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I think peeing on Luche would be neat.
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>>557106196
She had some endfield and frieren banger too
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>>557105694
Which combatants would pee on the protos?
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>>557106662
Veronica because that's what racoons or whatever the fuck she is do
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>>557106662
Imagine standing underneath giant Narja…
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>>557106662
Narja would with very little convincing, so would Beryl and Sereniel. Orlea would propose.
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>hey I want to make a deck where THIS card has a divine epiphany
>literally any other card except that one gets an epiphany during the exterior chaos
why is the game like this?
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>>557107253
Me with Haru trying to get something good on anchor shot or anchor pointer.
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>>557107416
I want to make a chizuru deck so naturally I want to have a good epiphany on oni hunt
>it's always her last card to show up
>if I get it early, it never gets an epiphany
I've already ran it back six times and only once did it get an epiphany before the boss, it's so stupid
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>>557106662
Renoa because she's a freak
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>Renoa gets mad at you for letting other girls piss on you so she has to wash it off with her own
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>>557107863
so just dupe it raw and pipis twice in interior.
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>>557109035
yeah, just divine epiphany the same version with the same divine epiphany twice... easy...
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Feels like they stopped giving us missions from ark city policies? I don't miss them but its been like a month since I got any.
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>>557106662
HuGOD obviously to mark his territory.
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>>557109190
why do you need the same divine epiphany? you're such a baby.
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>>557109591
why is rolling for epiphanies for the same card twice even a better thing to consider? what a retarded point, especially when you may have to meditate other parts of the kit on the interior
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>>557107863
>I want to make a chizuru deck
why
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Narja milkies
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For me, it’s sweaty gorilla milk.
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>>557106662
why is giant narja punching the CZN icon? Is she hitting renoa or the game?
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>>557112859
Fuck, I lost
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can you guys please not piss on your combatants?
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but just imagine the look on Rei’s face as I unleash my warm ray
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my combatants piss me off
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>>556938535
Compared to other recently released gacha CZN is doing really fucking badly.
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>>557104868
Based. She's so for (You) that I think she'd even drink it.
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>>557113240
i like this person's art.
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>>557114832
She doesn't have much of a choice. I will empty my bladder all over her; hair, mouth and feet included.
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>>557109463
>Feels like they stopped giving us missions from ark city policies?
I think that there is only a certain amount that exist, and as long as you have beaten that level (1,2,3,4, etc) then you can unlock the missions. They need to add more levels/stages for us to be able to unlock more. Or they need to add more in an update or whatever.
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Kinda made this shit by accident just fucking around building a one card Beryl to spore nuke. It can be a functionally empty deck that draws 10 for 0-1 AP.
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>>557114640
I dunno how these tags work, but on pixiv there are like 3 or 4 different CZN tags, and not all art is tagged with all different instances. There's Japanese, there's English, there's a second English one, there's "kazena", there's "art contest", etc.
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>>557114640
Feel like it was more dire pre-pixiv contest, it was like we had single digit fanart lol.
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>>557115047
Rei/Beryl are good candidates for that lumen combo to help draw out the whole deck and play it.
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It's been a while since I've seen an S rank in policy
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>>557115491
Yeah my Rei could use some work with better neutral cards and equipment. I made her half-assed and moved on since I figured she was only there to snack time the cards I couldn't remove from others that I wanted to use for spore bullshit. If I'm really bored I'll get her some divine snack dupes with fat defensive equipment.
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>>557115850
How? I always easily get it done.
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>chizuru still broken
when are they going to fix this
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I want to breed Veronica so bad, but I feel like it would be weird having an old-man-mouse constantly judging my form.
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why are guides always suggesting to take HP gear on support characters? why would I wanna go for HP if the heals scale with DEF?
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what are you guys saving for?
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>>557117471
NTA but I just pick gifts and crystals and the biggest chunk of research tokens everytime because the random rewards for high rank disasters are shit compared to raw power you get from affinity. We need so much of it to max a unit we'll never have enough at the rate they release characters.
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>>557118213
New Peko.
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>>557118213
EoS of course
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>>557118213
Luche, Tenebria, Aria
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>>557118145
They just don't know. I figured healing scaled from health based on intuition (atk->atk, def->def-based, hp->healing) until I learned otherwise from the thread.
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Damn this is kinda underrated
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>>557120141
I hope this fucker is season 3
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>>557120974
Why are all our leaked characters never-evers.
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>>557121170
If it's underrated why did you put 300 points into atk def and hp first
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What id the fastest way to level up chaos planets? I need the cube from blue pot for renoa, but I have to grind 10 more levels of bluepot.
Does higher chaos level grant more experience or should I nust grind low level chaos runs to level it up?
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You know that elf is a dude, right?
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>>557118213
Gaya once I hit 300. Didn't want her enough to spend anchors on her, but I still want her.
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>>557121536
Can't be assed to reset
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>>557121547
You level up by exploring different events and picking up equipment that you haven't equipped before. I think you do still want high enough difficulty to unlock the 5* equipment.
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>>557121710
ok and?
I will fuck any elf
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>>557118213
Next E2 bait or good partner, thankfully managed to pull Nine's in 20 pulls because her poverty options felt so bad to use.
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>>557121547
You want to run D8 for Codex at least since those give 5* equips. You get most of your points from filling the bestiary anyways. Spam event tiles while you're at it.
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>>557121547
It's just seeing things you haven't before, getting the unique equipment several times, etc. Blue Pot's especially annoying because of how many rare events there are. But if you're like me, you might not have noticed that you can just attack people in a lot of the event spaces by clicking the crossed swords button in the bottom right, and that'll get you different results and add to completion.
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>>557121212
when the fuck is this nigga releasing. i'm sick of FOID units clogging up the banners.
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Is Veronica worth using with no AP epiphanies?
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>>557121212
Gotta admit I like the idea of using Oberon in a game that's actually fun to play.
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>>557121887
Florence sex.
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>>557122358
if only he had the same VA as oberon
sadly that dream is dead
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I still don't get what the Luminescent Shroom does, I just know that I cannot trust the translation.
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The game refused to give me the epiphanies I wanted
Chizuru is still bugged and cursed shackles don't work
And I still beat the nebula boss
Chizuru the STRONGEST
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>>557124360
The recent 10 pull gave me Haru and I wanted so badly for it to be Chizu chu instead.
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>>557122283
This will easily let you draw your whole deck. You don't need the 1 ap if another character has the divine instead.
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>>557123189
>7 spore prop stacks
>+70% damage
>hit it with the 6th attack card generated this turn
>effect is doubled
>it does +140% damage instead
it is bad yes
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What make Chizuru bugged anyway what mechanic in season 2 that clash with her skill?
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>>557125149
I don't think you actually need to generate 6 attacks card in one turn and then hit the enemy with the 6th card for the doubling effect to occur, anon.
I think they mean that I need to generate 6 cards (probably not even attack cards) in a rurm and then hit the enemy with any attack card, but I haven't tested that yet.
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How many points would a 4th copy of the same card be AND the gods hammer thing? My deck is turning out alright, but I have 90 points left for either. Im not sure if i could fit a 4th copy of the same card in, or if I should copy a different card in her deck. Id like to get the hammer augment.
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>>557126819
I should specify that I have the original card and 2 copies of it but could go for a 3rd copy, for a total of 4 of the same card.
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>>557126819
I'm pretty sure copies are worth 0/0/40/ depending on how many times you've already duped for that character. Which card it is doesn't matter, unless the card has a Divine Epiphany, which are all worth 20 points on top of whatever else it costs. So having three copies of Nine's Fighting Spirit won't cost you anything. But whether you have a fourth copy of that or copy Experienced Strike instead, that dupe will still cost 40 points. And if they've got Divines, that's 20/20/60 or 100 points altogether.
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>>557127993
Damn, the equipment abilities cost 10 points?
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>>557126619
It definitely doesn't work with skill cards. I'm pretty sure it's meant to hit Hew (Extreme) lvl 5 each turn, but you'll brick your hand trying to play around that.
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>>557127993
Didn't realize refinement cost anything. That probably pushed me over the edge on memory limits a couple times without me noticing.
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>>557127594
It saved, thank you.
The equipment could have been better but the forge augments are solid besides the gods hammer which was just an hp increase.
Im not sure if 4 upgrades is even the way to go because it limits the hand, but with nia discard and draw it hopefully won't be a huge drawback.
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>>557128497
What accessory is that?
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>>557127993
They really need to add faint memory cost qol into the game, we don't know that hammer cost faint memory.
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Finally got it. Needed 3 vine camo to get it. I don't know how those YouTube videos got their Beryl to do like 800+ damage on a crit a turn, while mine is only doing 437 or so.
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>>557129317
They do keep improving it with each update. Back when the game first launched, it didn't even tell you how much memory you were allowed. A Chaos would just be labeled as "High Tier Save Data" and if you weren't using a third-party calculator you'd have no idea how the system worked. The main thing I'm hoping for is just a notice that you're about to go over your save limit, preferably with an option to choose what to replace or to just discard the addition.
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>>557129540
I keep thinking I should build a Beryl but then I remember that they will definitely break her legs after this season and my motivation disappears
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>>557129916
I don't know why they would when it's spore that's the problem.
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>>557130079
F2P characters can't stay strong, look at TC
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>>557130079
Simple fix for Beryl
>opening found only trigger attack retain card
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>>557130545
Is Beryl as strong as TC?
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>>557129014
Crimson bloodstone from Bluepot.
>When using Attack card, Recover Health equal to 9% of damage dealt (1 per turn)
You get it from an event. Part of me wonder's if it's a reference to diablo's soulstones, but probably not.
I'm not sure how hard this renoa deck will hit compared to last seasons, but the heal potential is nice.
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>>557129916
CUTE
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>>557131050
Why'd she do it?
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>sees new story from nikker
>queen just killed liberalio
>neon trying to buff herself for upcoming mission
>andersen is hella mad
>dorothy got rejected from ark
so much peak while czn and bd2 stuck with trying to revamping the story since woman writer cant stop with their cuck fantasy.
the more i read nikker,the less hope i have for czn story revamp,i dont trust smilegook to deliver peak like blue archive or nikker at all even if they hired new writer again this time (he probably will get bullied so hard again)
why not just kill czn and re release it again lile trickcal,arent they multi billion dollar company??
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lewd...
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>>557129540
Gear, refinements and memory frags? Mine does just a little over 800 per crit with the extra attack damage weapon and a refinements that increases damage amount by 50% on the next turn if you don't deal damage with a card. Still only barely got through with 10% hp because copy event keeps evading whenever I'm farming beryl.
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>>557133054
why did they genderbend haru anyways?
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>>557133792
Was just mistranslated
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>>557133271
Here is my Beryl, 38% extra damage shouldn't be too bad. But I couldn't get second method as I used my money looking for spore.
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>>557134402
which part was mistranslated? Is Haru a guy or a girl?
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>>557092145
i haven't gotten S rank on it since launch
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>>557135247
You mean Haku and pretty sure he had a bare chest in his ultimate attack animation.
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>>557132532
nikke is yuritroon shit now look at their new collab lmao
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>>557133271
post beryl stats
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SHOULD I ROLL NINE
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>>557136864
>yuritroon
I really think the only people who use this word are /vmg/ drama posters.
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>>557087162
>Wyrm Tools
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>>557136864
we fuck lesbians in nikke,the game is pretty much anti lesbian for what i can see
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First time playing Nine, is this a good deck?
Also this camouflage eliphany is fucking kino, its free evade and 2 draws next turn
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how does veiled thorn work? is it 50% damage increase for the unit or for all allies?
ik its mistranslated and its allies need to not do damage but i was wondering about the 2nd line
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Locking this feature behind such a massive grind is fucking retarded, should be in by default or much earlier to get at least.
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>>557140234
>massive grind

there are plenty of other gachas where you don't have to actually play the game retard
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does beryl's retain extra attack count spores generated from other characters?
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>>557138829
not really
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>>557140303
Not an argument stupid.
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>>557140346
What do I need?
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>>557140407
Remove that parry, fatal strike, and those camouflages if you're building for hew extreme
Get the auto-hew counterblade too
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I heard you liek drawing and 10K ballistas
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>>557140407
drop fatal strike
counterblade should be honed edge on exhaust, not shield
dont add neutrals

millenium arbor for weapon
mythic chest
rage potion/whatever for accessory

beyond that you're looking at varying amounts of fighting spirit copies depending on your strat
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>>557140504
Aren't the camouflages good for free draws and getting the effect from the weapon (50% when you don't take damage)?
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>>557133271
>refinements that increases damage amount by 50% on the next turn if you don't deal damage with a card
That does not do actually what it says. It's translation error and is actually "If enemy does not attack, increase damage amount by 50% next turn". The weapon equip with similar effect also is translated wrong and is same as the upgrade.
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>>557140527
I'm happy for you. It might even be worth changing the epiphany on pendant.
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>>557140606
Not with that build, no
Also veiled thorn is mistranslated and it's when the ENEMY doesn't take damage that turn, not the combatants
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>>557140372
Ignore the hopejeet.
He just blindly defends whatever is in the game.
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>>557140754
Fucking hell this mistranslation
>>557140594
Sounds good, back to the mines
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>>557140303
>>557140819
You know you can just reset your skills and get it right? I got it on day 1 with only 1 chaos done on season 2
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how do I cheese 9/9
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Where is the Tiphera drip marketing?
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>>557141823
Beryl seems to be the easiest strat, otherwise you just fight it honestly with a dps + narja voracity or mega shield team.
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>>557142012
so the hardest thing is actually being able to sustain through the stage?
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>>557087470
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>>557142174
Beryl with 4 opening found, spore, and vine camo equipment on all your units.
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>>557129317
>>557128307
>>557128186
Guys...
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Where's the trip preview
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>>557143515
>trip
You mean Tiphany?
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How much does it cost to remove a duplicated card?
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Ayyy, I did it. Im glad I built haru.
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>>557143842
What's she going to be, justice? I hope she's order, but that's two back-to-back.
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>running chaos
>get to final boss
>chizu severely underperforming
>die
>running 2nd time around
>get to final boss again
>chizu underperforms again
>die
>realize in the Nebula Fight that her will-o-whisp mechanic is bugged and not working

...
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>>557144138
HaruGODS
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>>557144812
not bugged just mistranslated, like everything in this fucking game.
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>>557144138
>E6
doesn't count
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Does this work with Beryl's opening found upgrade build?
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>>557143842
i wish she was this meaty
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>>557145114
Not a mistranslation issue, the skill literally does nothing ever. It's bugged.
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Gee would be really fun to be able to do runs with my Chizuru instead of her being bugged for like the third day in a row where her main mechanic just doesn't work.
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>>557146119
There will be an update dotay
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>>557145314
>e6
What? It says 9/9.
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>>557143964
zero
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>>557141894
bro please understand a tweet per day is a lot of work
retweeting artists or communicating with the community is too much work
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>>557127993
3rd dupe is also free
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>>557147352
t's not, third dupe means you have four copies of a card in a deck.
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>>557147703
A dupe is a copy. Three dupes is three copies. You can't have five copies in the first place.
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>they nerfed contaminated spore
>they call it a bugfix
>spore debuff now has a stack limit
>reduced spore debuff effect
>"totally a bug sorry guys"
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>>557147864
Well, there were retards asking for the nerf here
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>>557147830
you are wrong you retard. dupe is a verb in this context.
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>>557148049
Show me a deck with five copies you wrong+dishonest weasel.
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What events give out spore cards?
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so spore orlea sucks now??????
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>>557148218
training/shop are the rng choices

the correct answer for any deck that wants a specific neutral is to reroll your starting blessing until you get it
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>>557148251
It's still her best deck, just because you can't spend 35 turns spamming retains to one-shot bosses doesn't mean she sucks now
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>>557148173
four dupe events are not possible yet but the UI makes it clear that if they were in the game it would cost 40. if you look at the game UI, after you do three dupe events your combatant status screen says 3/4 copy events.
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>>557148414
It doesn't say that. It says "Copy 3" and that clearly means having copied a card 3 times, to end up with 4 dupes. You're never going to have a 5-dupe deck.
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>>557147864
had to pull the trigger
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>>557148582
copy and dupe are the same fucking word.
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fix chorizo you stupid gooks.
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the changes, no english version yet since they are fucking lazy and useless
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>>557148695
Exactly, which is why it was so silly when you said "third dupe means you have four copies." Three dupes is three copies. Four dupes is four copies.
Case 1: Hurr durr I was referring to the number of dupe events
You can't apply four dupe events
Case 2: I was referring to the number of copies (dupes) of the card
Third copy does not cost anything
There is no case where claiming "3rd/4th dupe cost 40 points" makes sense.
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>>557148857
nvm it's here they just don't communicate it
https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12109778?boardKey=139238&combined=false
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>>557148857
>play 20 spores to double damage for one hit
wow nice chaos mechanic to base every fucking neutral card around.
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>>557148815
they didn't say they would on the patch notes....
chorizobros...
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>>557148857
flash of possibility is not compensation. what a load of bullshit.
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FIX HER
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>>557148939
i hope you are ESL. dupe can have multiple meanings, there is the act of duping as well as what you can call each thing after the act of duping occurs. you are the only person having trouble with this. this is a new kind of stupid I haven't seen before, thanks for showing it off.
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>>557149048
>The extremely easy orlea deck that I spent maybe 2-3 runs getting because the only literal thing I had to do is roll the spore card and then delete almost everything in her kit except for the retain triggers and then get the only epiphany that actually matters, the one that generates a max level Softie, is ruined! This is not compensation!
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>>557133054
>fluids implying sex on Haku's tentacles
>no penetration shown whatsoever
GAY art.
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>>557149274
awaiting further complainers
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>>557148857
>already nerfed spores
Didn't even have time to have fun with it.
The more I play CZN the more I wonder why I even bother making decks. Half of them just get killed instantly when devs realize something is slightly stronger than they thought.
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>>557149127
Speaking about her, I quite literally and unironically haven't changed my home screen from the default one since day 1.
But yesterday I unlocked hers and... yeah... I can't go back now. My beloved.
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>>557148857
>>557148940
english
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>>557149163
I already covered that argument in case 1. God you're retarded.
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>>557149376
they don't play their game. nothing new
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>>557149376
>netdecker tears
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I've been a flat GOD all my life but I emptied it all to gym slut Nine's big teasing oppai...
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>>557149127
Easy.
Release her direct upgrade like they did with Nine that made Haru and Yuki obsolete.
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Now that spore meme is dead Orlea is back to being a brick, and every card in s2 now fucking sucks compared to forbidden cards
No fun allowed
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spore cheater cucks IN SHAMBLES
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Why don't these gookniggers just make betas before updates? They clearly are not competent enough to test shit on their own.
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Renoas tits are perfect
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Trying to balance every single little thing is how you suck out all the fun of your game
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>he built a meme deck before great rift is out
Just wait for the meta to form, not like deck building is hard now
They can't do nerfs while it's running else people won't be able to contest scores obtained pre-nerf
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>>557151370
This
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>>557151370
Nah. I don't feel the urge to piss on them. Her hair does deserve a golden shower, though.
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>>557151937
most brown post this general has had since october 2025
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>never touched a spore card because i don't know what it does
>get a free copy of one of the rarest and most valuable materials in the game in the mail for free
this is a pretty great game. i wish they would change more stuff so i can keep getting free shit for doing nothing
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>>557151984
Cope and seethe.
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Is Yuri still the best partner for the Canon Wife?
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>>557152034
free dupe item is rarer
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>>557152337
thanks random trivia bot
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>557152034
>I do not play the game and therefore am not impacted by the changes
Not sending their strongest shills, uh
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>>557152471
the fact you think some shit item which can only change one epi is rare shows your retardation
they used it as an excuse to not give out apologems because idiots think it's rare
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>Alcea is getting nerfed too
lmao this is tragic
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this is the worst menu in the game
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>>557152880
the sorting makes no sense, everything is really bad to see
why is it so shit man
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>>557152687
it IS rare though. you can only get a few per season. the sources of acquisition are few and the supply is limited. that by definition makes it rare
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>>557152981
the combatant sorting changed last patch
used to have 5* with highest dupe first now it's always Khalipe, I don't know what they are even sorting by
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I never touched the sporememe but they shouldn't be calling it a bugfix. It's just a nerf.
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>>557153345
ah fuck i thought it was me being retarded, but they actually made it worse
why the fuck did they change it?
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>>557153345
>>557153480

wtf is this?
maybe they are sorted by korean alphabet or some retard magic?
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>spend 1k credits meditating the same card over and over
>2 generic trash epiphanies and the wrong option every time
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>>557153643
skill issue
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>>557153563
Has to be gook alphabet or something
It's not element else Mei Lin would be first, and it's not Name because ChiZuru is always far down
Dupe's don't matter like they used to either, my E2 Sereniel was always first and now she's last
I truly don't know what these stupid gooks are doing, but they just keep fucking up
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how do I play the mode where you can't obtain save data?? I need more gears for upgrade
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>>557153867
Go to codex and merge till you get one
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>>557153867
Gears don't get multiplied, only trade currency and chaos orbs do.
Merge new codices.
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nerfjeets won
again
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>>557129540
It definetly has to do with the Shrooms.
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>my deck on the node before the interior boss
?????????????????????
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Devs went from trying to not powercreep anything to powercreeping both Haru and Yuki, units with a completely different niche, in one single combatant
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>>557155128
classic. They really should just force epis on cards a few nodes before interior boss.
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>>557155193
yeah this game kind of fucking sucks
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>>557155324
this shit is unacceptable and a waste of fucking time
1300 credits on the stash because nothing epiphanied and I couldn't meditate shit, it's pathetic
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>>557153643
We love RNG here sweetie.
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>>557155420
I bet you were offered epiphany events and didn't take them. I never take them either, mind you, but it's not totally unavoidable.
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>>557139312
It's for the unit equipped only, basically meant for using with a good shielder in the team
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>>557155540
>I bet you were offered epiphany events and didn't take them
No
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>>557155540
I feel like epi events generally don't make much sense unless they are divine. Just take them out and make combat/elite nodes have much higher odds or guaranteed epis.
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>>557155614
X
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did you retards really expect spores to stay unchanged
say thanks they didnt nerf beryl instead yet

no but seriously, will they get the memo where if they want something to stack infinitely they really really need to pay attention to how they word the cards? goddamn JUST PUT LIMITS TO STUFF IT'S THAT EASY
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>>557155128
yeah it's pretty dumb you're not guaranteed epi on all cards before the endgame
i think one way they could fix it is make some card epiphany events in exterior, as of now exterior epiphany events only work to spawn new cards
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>>557149376
welcome to the illusion of freedom
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>>557149376
okay, post the decks
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>>557155750
Orleadev sneakily removed the cap before release.
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>>557155683
A guaranteed epiphany is better than a chance of one. Especially if it's a selected combatant, you want to force them all early as possible to maximize the odds of getting the one you want before the act 1 boss.
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>>557155950
The issue here isn't getting the cards even, it's that they don't get the epiphany so you can't even reroll. And the exterior only has "combatant triggers epiphany", not "card gets epiphany" events.
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I didn't even build a spore deck yet so is it just not worth making anymore at all?
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SPORES ARE GONE
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>>557156085
It's pretty bad now, imo still good for machinegun beryl but definitely nerfed her ceiling. For Orlea you just go the regular vuln softie build its still good for Nine and any other big hitters.
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>>557156109
Orlea's spores...
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>make an Orlea deck for flash Nine for the event boss
>healing does damage
>all non-exhaust skill cards heal you
>due to being "lucky" and having her duped one heal skill card retain and just clogs the hand
Holy shit I was retarded for ever investing into Orlea.
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>>557156510
I cleared it with that exact comp however it was tricky yeah
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>>557156510
I beat 9/9 with Nine, Narja and Rei and I didn't even realize I'm taking damage from healing cards. Just unga bunga with Extreme Hew until it dies, lmao.
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guys they overnerfed it, the build's dead.
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why did Orleadev let this happen??
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>>557156023
Yeah I'm saying you WANT combatant epiphanies. The sooner you get the card you want, the sooner that card gets the epiphany you want, or the sooner you can remove it, or meditate it
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Spore patch:
https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12109778
Other issues patch:
https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12108910
Alcea patch:
https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12109962
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>>557155750
>say thanks they didnt nerf beryl instead yet
tell the whole class how they would nerf beryl? it's not any different than what she was doing before spores came out; gets a full hand in 1-3 turns rather than 5, WOAAHH.
lol
lmao
latelet just built beryl this season like everyone else on this board.
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>>557157676
■ Details
- Fixing an issue where the instant removal effect of Spore Propagation was not functioning correctly
- Adjusting effects based on stack count
* Maximum stack count will be adjusted to 20
* Damage Increase per stack will be adjusted from 10% 5%

As a token of our apology, we have prepared the following compensation.
Please be sure to claim it within the distribution period.

■ Details
- An issue where the TB score in Save Data was not reflected even after equipping equipment
- An issue where the owned quantity was incorrectly displayed in the Galactic Disaster > Challenge Mission Reward details screen under certain conditions
- An issue where the effects of Nine’s Ego Manifestation Stage 6 were incorrectly applied to targets affected by Cursed Shackles
- An issue where the Galactic Disaster story tutorial could not be progressed intermittently
- Applying effect target description updates
ㄴIncluding Partner Alcea’s “Caustic Remarks” tooltip update
- An issue where Veiled Thorn’s activation condition was incorrectly described
- An issue where Chizuru's Will-O’-Wisps are not created under certain circumstances
- Fixing an issue where the instant removal effect of Contaminated Spore > Spore Propagation was not functioning correctly
- Adjusting Contaminated Spore effects based on stack count


Details: Partner Alcea Skill Issue
Currently Applied Effect: The damage increase effect is amplified for each Caustic Remark stack.

Planned Fix: Applies Caustic Remark to the target. Targets affected by Caustic Remark take 20% increased damage.
The issue will be corrected so that the effect increases up to 30% when the conditions are met.

CHORIZO FIXED BTW
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>never use spores
>get one flash of whatever for free anyway
Thank you, spore abusers
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can beryl still one hit 9/9
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>>557157676
Ok but where is Tippy drip marketing?
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>>557149376
it's easy, just don't build cheese decks
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NO WHY I DIDN'T EVEN 9/9 YET I WAS JUST TAKING MY TIME GO BACK
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>>557158020
Theyre busy nerfing her lewd live 2Ds
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>>557158102
It's not really a cheese deck when you need to endure multiple turns of stacking and then use the only superhigh dmg card in the game.
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>>557158020
Bro the english twitter didn't even get a word about the patches out.
I had to gather and paste that together. They should hire me.
Smilegate is the most incompetent company that has ever existed.
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fuck this game
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so uhh is nine still good
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>>557158302
Yes? nothing changed
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>>557158129
it still one-shots, this was after patch. this is a non-crit btw.

>>557157527
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will we ever get another charm breakdown
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what is the point of deckbuild for the next boss or the rift if they'll just nerf it to the ground?
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>>557157791
They finally fixed chizuru, just in time for my latest creation.
I wanted to remove the shadow of the moon but it's not a big deal because you'll create it anyways.
Yes, this solos the 9/9 nebula boss.
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>>557158510
>nerf it to the ground
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NOOOO I CAN'T DEAL 10MILLION DAMAGE ANYMORE FUCK THIS SHIT REEEEEEEEEE
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>>557159040
cutest rat
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>>557157570
On that particular run, I got every single one of the cards on the exterior chaos very early and none of them epiphanied (and the ones that did, I forced them through events).
A very frustrating waste of time.
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>>557152272
Any Renoa mains?
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nerfing shit and not giving 10 pulls as compensation is pure evil
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>>557159312
from now on all compensation will be given in flashes
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>>557158718
i was thinking about this two types of tsukuyomi deck... looks great.
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>thet already neerfing shit before leaderboard
Lmao I can't wait for this season leaderboard shitshow, who will be on the chopping block for season 3.
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>>557159486
You definitely want will o wisps and extra hits.
Shadow of the moon really benefits from growing both ways. Even with the elasticity, getting it from 5 to 7 hits is crazy increase in damage output.
And if the enemy doesn't have elasticity, then lmao get fucked nerd
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>>557140527
Wow this deck is straight up disgusting lol
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this game is just an unfun nerf fest because the devs are incompetent
and don't forget the powercreep
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>>557158510
The point is to exploit the dev oversight and clear it before they nerf it.
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oh no, the spore nerf will make nine oneshot with slightly less overkill dmg, the game is dead
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>>557160098
Post your spore decks
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Nerfs are good.
The devs want us to challenge ourself and built better decks.
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what drives concernjeets that don't play the game to post their concerns every single day?
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>>557136939
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>>557159426
Flashes are fucking useless though
But I guess retardos who don't play the game will see it as a rare and valuable item
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>>557160581
izzat farming
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>>557160528
Yeah sure lol, THAT's absolutely why they nerf things
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>>557145384
>>557140686
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>>557140686
is the effect the enemy not dealing damage, or the enemy not attacking? i assume it's the first because wtf is the point of the second one?
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>spores nerfed
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I KNEW TO NOT JUMP ON THE TRAIN
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>>557161239
>>557134883
Huh, how are you doing 800 damage on a crit with opening found extra retain withese stats?
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my spore Beryl still setup on 1 turn and clear all solo
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Tyrant on Blue Pot is the shittiest thing ever
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wg jesus says Orlea is still broken
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Did they fix Chorizo yet?
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>>557163881
yes
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>>557162808
Went back and checked and she's only doing 613 damage on crits now. Could've sworn she was hitting 800+ before this, I might just be hallucinating shit my bad anon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcEnhytJHDA
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>>557164161
this was before spores got nerfed tho
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>>557164459
>this was before spores got nerfed tho
Did you even watch the video retard?
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>>557164114
I mean that's still better than mine, which was 447 on the boss and 500 in the tower. Look like I need to go back to the mines for second method.
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>>557164701
Cope.
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>>557164459
>mention spores
>watch the video
>no spores
?
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>>557152272
>U
where's renoas husband
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWMsVn3Otms
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>>557166253
The video was made before spores were nerfed though that guy was right
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Downloading now what do i expect
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Holy moly.
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>>557166747
Nerfs.
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>>557166719
1 + 2 = 4?
>>557166562
how did they not die at 0 health
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>>557166747
game is literally unplayable bro
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>>557166747
Ass in your face
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>>557166719
video was made before spores nerf, sure, technically. but then that makes the comment fucking redundant since he's implying they were using spores when they weren't used at all.
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>>557166805
I mean, not really that good right? You proc this through other characters
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>>557166747
it's fun
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>>557164459
>>557165228
Retard lole
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>>557166747
Decent fun for a while when new season starts once you got a few characters built up.
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>>557167554
It's pretty good on my Rei.
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What is the difference between Honed Edge and Honed Edge+?
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>>557167917
>170
damn you guys do high level chaoses...
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>>557168542
The second one has a +
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>>557168542
Honed Edge buffs herself
Honed Edge+ buffs everyone
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>>557166747
fun probably
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>>557169281
Any proof to back this up?
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>>557169654
our guys is live, ask him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmzMEFNyZ3o
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>>557168542
>>557169654
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how do I 9/9 with sereniel? what deck and teammates do I need?
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>>557170234
search it on youtube
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>>557169954
Where does this come from? prydwen is such a piece of trash
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>>557170420
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/cards
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>>557170460
>wiki
That's not proof, retardGOD.
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>>557170619
????
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>tfw still can't decide to roll nine or not
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>they're giving out these retarded flashes instead of apologems now
Sad.
I wonder what they're going to do with rift because people certainly won't be clearing 500k health bard after the spore and Chizu nerfs.
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>>557171045
I deliberated for a while and then built Magna instead.
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>>557171131
How'd they nerf Chizuru?
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>>557170827
You fed a troll
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>>557171256
You used to be able to do this
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>>557170827
I need either an ingame explanation proof or a gameplay showcase.
A wiki is no different than prydwen where anybody can write anything.
>>557171278
retardSINGULARITY
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>>557171543
Thanks for replying like a mongoloid to the only guy interested in answering my question so nobody follows it up to not put up with you, fucking faggot
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>>557171221
>>557171221
>Magna instead
I love her and wish she was good but how the fuck did you come to that conclusion they aren't even remotely close in power or gameplay
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>>557171543
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>>557171389
>that is a nerf
retard
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>>557171045
Everyone has 200+ pulls by now. No reason to save it.
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I think he's trying to say he's CONCERNED about Smilegook's mistranslations ruining his cheese decks
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>>557171997
>retard
retard
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>>557172079
GIGAretard
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>>557172018
I don't like rolling for a boring design on principle
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>>557172125
She's hot though. The moment I saw her fat thighs on the banner I immediately rolled.
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>>557171938
Thanks for finally posting proof instead of your ad-ridden site, shillcuck.
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>>557172290
>shillcuck
braindamage
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>>557172290
ok so you're just dumb then, that wiki is a 1:1 copy of the game's descriptions
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>>557172391
I'm surprised he didn't go for the "can't trust ingame prompts because it could be mistranslated" angle
You never know with these subhumans
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>>557168654
You mean high tier chaos, right? You can do tier 14+ on any 75+ level chaos.
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>>557171921
i don't care about ranking and i didn't need nine to clear all other content >>557093483
i also like this stupid cat much more
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>>557172552
>can't trust ingame prompts because it could be mistranslated
i love the game but literally half the cards and items are mistranslated
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>>557172358
I accept your concession.
>>557172391
>that wiki is a 1:1 copy of the game's descriptions
Sorry but I am not as a naive cuck as you.
If an ingame description is wrong I get apologems.
If a fansite is wrong I get nothing.
Fansites are the worst proof you can post.
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>>557149376
I uninstalled this game last thread and I think anybody sensible enough to see that this game has no future or will be miserable to play (as devs keeps showing us they don't know what they're doing) should do the same.
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>>557172663
>still feeding the troll
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>>557172785
>he hangs out in the general of a game he doesn't play
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>>557172891
I wish smilegooks would pay more for translators than their shill defense force.
Oh wait you ae doing it for free!
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>>557093483
>>557172635
yeah very nice actually, also unexpected magna deck, could probably be improved?
why does it say copy 2 if you only have one?
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>>557173103
>ae
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>>557173103
holy shit anon you have no situational awareness at all
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>>557172552
That's true though.
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>>557173232
i had to delete a copy of frost charge to free up data, i was doing a low tier run so that's on me
ideally i wanted 2 of them for more consistent vuln stacking, didn't really need the divine epi but that's how the cards fell
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>>557173103
>ask question
>reply gets posted
>have this half an hour long melty about fansites and white knighting and whatever the fuck
you can stop now bro
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>>557173260
>pointing out a typo
>>557173271
>no counter argument
I accept both of your concessions.
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>>557157791
>Alcea nurf again
This is horrendous. They literally nerfed an on-stock paid character, twice.
Why didn't gook whales sue them already?
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>>557173630
>ask question
>get weak sauce response
>ask for more precise response
>get the more precise response
You can go back to your echo chamber that doesn't question anything posted.
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someone please post a good renoa deck
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Prediction:
Tiph has a multiplicative damage buff/debuff. They tuned spore prop so Tiph would actually be used in rift. Beryl/Orlea would be the better Nine supports otherwise.
They will fuck it up though, and Beryl will steal Nine's spot, just like what happened to Chizu in the first rift.
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>>557173874
Yeah, this is absolutely what happened. NOT that you behaved like a complete braindead faggot throwing a fit the whole time.
Good for you buddy, I believe in you.
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>>557174210
Believable.
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>>557174626
>uhm no you're a faggot
Lmao again I accept your concession.
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>>557174779
based retardGOD
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Prediction: Tiphera will exhaust millions of my seed.
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>>557175014
Time to return to your echo chamber, cuck.
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>>557175416
huh? But I was politely asking for a more precise response anon, just like you
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>>557174192
I dont know if its amazing, But this has been working out well enough for me. You can probably tinker with getting an extra dupe of flower, last ditch, or echo of sorrow.
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People are still using Renoa in Season 2: Seed of Karmic Fire?
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>>557149280
>>no penetration shown whatsoever
Gaya's mouth is technically penetration.
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>>557159312
The last time they gave out apologibs was for Sereniel being a Limited is though 30% cheaper said there "weren't any Limiteds or anything like that"

Since then, they have nerfed multiple things, including nerfing 2 characters all the way into the ground, nerfing an on-banner 5* signature Partner, nerfing one of the Season gimmicks, and they didn't even give out any apologibs for their broken promise of not having 150 floors of the Tower playable during Narja's banner and *also* timegating it to be a weekly thing.

None of these received any apologibs. Apologibs are now a thing of the past.
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>>557172018
Keep in mind, just having shit RNG one (1) time can eat 140 rolls, so having 200+ rolls really doesn't mean anything. That only means you can guarantee pity one character, but that you might struggle to pity the next one. Besides, it's the principle. The game should definitely shill the units more than Season 1 did, but no one should ever feel like they should roll a unit that they don't even like.
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>>557176172
yeah, she's fun.
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>>557176172
I wish people posted their comps more
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I'm guessing those seasonal Chaos missions for things like "Defeat Replicated Looty" and "Defeat Replicated Vine Lord" are based on things that haven't been added yet, right? Unless there's a way to damage those Lumen guys before they teleport away, I haven't seen anything like that.
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>>557179942
The catgirl is a time mage and her gimmick will be remove buffs from enemies by "passing turns", which might also activate [Retain] effects and other turn-progressing abilities.
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>>557180097
Don't know if you made it up but sounds cool.
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>>557180173
I made it the fuck up, but the other fat pussy seemed to have time magic shit, and Rita says that we already met her before, so she's doing time stuff too. I still wonder if they redesigned Millia to be Rita but forgot to remove Millia from the game, or maybe after they rework the story, we won't have met Millia, or maybe Millia *is* Rita somehow though time shenanigans
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>>557180367
this bitch is supposed to bring back exhausted cards to your hand with her ego skill so definitely a lot of time shit
i wonder if she might have something like that one card from hearthstone that lets you to take a "picture" of your hand and get it back when you later use the "picture"
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>>557180594
Or, you know what would be insane and would get CZN in trouble eventually, is if she can steal buffs from the enemy. That'd be bonkers.
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>>557180367
>time shenanigans
It wouldn't be the first time this plot beat has happened in a story, especially in a gacha. FEH did the same thing 2-3 years ago.
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>>557181073
>can steal buffs from enemies
until they slap on a "can't be stolen" stipulation on every buff in the future, making her useless.
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>>557181073
Seen it before. The devs will just double down on invisible buffs like those sparkle effects bosses get above diff 9.
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>>557180594
imagine putting five exhausted hews into your hand
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what buffs are even worh stealing?
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>>557181879
"Can't take damage for one turn"
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>>557181392
>>557181476
Yeah, I guess. Give a gimmick to a unit, invalidate the gimmick next season. Balthier only really had 1 fight he was ever good at.

>>557181879
Well, the "big" thing is that it makes the penalties that give the enemy Fortitude or Moral not actually penalties and instead buffs for (You)
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>>557181879
it would help protect you from any chaos modifier that says, "enemies gain X fortitude/morale every Y turns".
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>>557181793
>Y-you want me to generate HOW much AP? AHHH I'M GOING INSANE!
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Praying for Tiphera to get a rapebait mindbreak like ChizuCHUU
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did everyone just stop using mei lin?
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>>557183670
Yeah? They're slapping the anti mei lin buff on every single fucking boss now, the fuck do you want us to do
She's dead
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>>557183670
you can't do the multi attack to deal with the event boss so she is shelved, i saw someone do hugo and mei lin team though
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>>557183670
I like other characters more, and I could never get a good deck for her last season despite trying for hours.
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>>557183795
Can't you beat the boss doing 7 multiattacks at a time?
I don't have her
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>>557182596
Amen
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when are we getting any news about the new character?
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>>557184431
the day before Nine's banner ends
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homete
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>>557184596
Why isn't there slop of Magna getting petted?
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stop talking about magna, no one gives a fuck about that brick
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>>557185080
I care
Please talk more about magna.
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>>557155606
no anon that line is mistranslated its 50% damage inc if the enemy doesn't take damage for the turn.
i said that in the comment.
I was questioning if it buffed allies by 50% or not. If its for only the equipped unit then its pointless having it on your dps unless you intentionally stall inbetween turns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbIDqIN_glI&disable_polymer=1
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>>557185185
She reminds me of that girl from Rwby
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>>557185080
I rerolled for Magna and ran the full counter team, but it turns out it's not that good. I wish counters were better.
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Playing endfield made me understand how important the story is
Looking forward to the rewrite
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>>557185291
i hit the angels in tower for like 5k damage every turn just from counters to their multihits
they do solid damage now if you fully block incoming damage and build some crit
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>>557185291
I will build a full counter team that can beat the nebula boss even if I die trying.
That's my mission.
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>>557184596
She does look familiar
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>>557186096
magna would be the best girl in this game if she had modest B-C cups
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Now that I think about it, doesn't Magna just hardcounter Blue Pot's interior boss since it spams attacks so much?
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For me it's big ears
I need her
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>>557180097
>>557180367
You can see her gameplay in the original gameplay trailer
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>>557186423
My wife, the 151st pokemon, is so cute
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>>557183670
literally what is the point. at this point the correct save data meilin build is no basics, no unity, four copies of passionspire, and you stack it entirely with veronica and spores.
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>>557186990
Do you not have any decks with spores?
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how many gems you guys got?
I'm at 50k
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>>557183670
I'd like to keep using her, but she was always a massive pain in the ass to get good decks for, this season has it out for card spammers in general to the point that even Sereniel is underperforming, and Elasticity is becoming a standard boss effect. It's looking like the only thing I'd be able to use Mei Lin for is farming Potentials anyway, so I may as well just keep using the deck I made for her in season 1.

Sucks, too. She was the first character I invested in so I hate seeing her on the bench. But that's the way it goes. I'm kinda hoping they eventually buff her whole Ravage+Embers play style so she isn't such a one-trick pony and she still has another build if Elasticity keeps cucking her.
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>>557186990
I can do the 1k one, but I think I'm just gonna let the 5 gems from the 1.5k and the 3k one go. I will say, I hope they stop trending in this direction. Losing 5 gems is a huge deal, but I don't like how "perfectly" the content is designed specifically around Nine so far.
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>>557187442
>I'd like to keep using her, but she was always a massive pain in the ass to get good decks for, this season has it out for card spammers in general to the point that even Sereniel is underperforming
Maybe start farming in Zero System like a thinking human being?
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>>557183670
i used her yesterday and posted my kicks in the thread
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>>557186990
amir can do this with this epi and a vuln stack maybe
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>>557187578
I think you missed the point bro
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Why do I only get kryken's messenger? I thought there were supposed to be a version for every god.
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>>557187790
I did some rerolls this morning and got two kyrken and one Sekred
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>>557187464
I think these mini-episodes with text box stories are good content and it's a much better "test drive" for the new character than we've had before (christ, those Narja trials seemed intentionally designed to make her look fucking awful). As long as the reward structure is better, it'll be great. The challenge spaces shouldn't give completion stars or gems, and should instead give potential, promotion, and leveling materials for the unit they're shilling. Like how they changed the Chaos Loot system, it's always better to make it look like you're getting extra rewards rather than being gatekept from the basic rewards.
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>>557187790
>I thought there were supposed to be a version for every god.
You get to meet chaos gods, but only in dataless challenges. Diallos has really fucking cool background. But if you're talking strictly about messengers - yeah, I think only Kyrken's Messenger is in the game.
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>>557175921
Thanks.
What's the thought behind this?
you create 3 bullets and discard them with the flower? then instant judgement -> last ditch ->ballad?
Why is it called Ballad anyway can the bitch sing?
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>>557188181
A ballad can refer to a poem, and she's a poet.

Typically the Renoa strat is to fill the deck with as many Dirge Bullets as possible, then after a shuffle you use Nia's Ego Skill to turn Renoa into a mounted gatling gun.
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>>557164161
>>557188181
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Chizuru enjoying herself with some of her oniric, will o wisp frens after a hard day of work.
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>>557187596
Never used Amir before in chaos. Does she need a shield partner?
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>>557188762
Kino
Best feature of the game, they need to add so much more stickers
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>>557164161
Jesus.
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>>557189369
I will never be this lucky with artifactslop, in any game.
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>>557189145
it's preferable but you can go the usual dps + mika route
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>>557164161
>>557188641
very cool thank you
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>>557189369
>>557189564
It's probably just ATK% on IV
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Renoa would be better with an AR16
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>>557190165
Anon. That's more ATK, more Crit Chance, and more Crit Damage than I have on *any* character. I don't have 1000 ATK on *any* character. I don't have 64% Crit Chance on *any* character. I don't have 192% Crit Damage on *any* character, let alone all on the same character.
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>>557185250
That's too much of a mistranslation to believe you... yet, I do. Not surprised with this game anymore.
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>>557188181
>thought behind this
I never really planned out the deck that much to create an order of operations as i dont always have all of those cards in hand at the same turn. I just find this to be fairly efficient and "ergonomic".
3 bullets a turn is a good amount of damage each turn and ensures you have ample bullets to work with, The flower upgrade let's you recycle all 3 for free damage or help full your hand for last ditch assault, and ballad helps keep your deck lean by exhausting all the bullets in the graveyard. After a few turns, ballad hits like a truck, and it can combo with last ditch assault like you said.
You can combo her with nia for some fun interactions, such as filling your deck with bullets, and activating nia's ego skill to discard them all again.
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>it's another episode of me trying to trigger Rei's Therapy Breakdown
I don't know why I'm like this.
This is like the third time this week.
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>rape rei
>mindwipe
>rape rei
>
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>>557190567
that's why i linked the video evidence of someone testing it.
the gooks are somehow mistranslating it so badly the description text effect is literally backwards. I really don't understand why they can't just use Ai for this it would be unironically better.
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>>557188762
Fatty hoards ALL the food and doesn't have any to spare for poor Rei (or Coco)
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>>557173462
what about the glacial fist? You think that one's the best?
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>>557186990
Use the morale-giving partners with
>>557187596
and vulnerables + crit.
Remember that you don't need to get the 3 stars at the same run, feel free to stall until ego bar is filled.
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>>557190887
Yes, thanks anon. According to the video, it seems it works fine if you do damage w/o an attack card, so maybe it's meant for the (now slightly nerfed) solo Sporyl team.
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Counseling Nine is giving me Sten vibes.
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>>557186990
your cat?
https://streamable.com/rqc5dh
>>557191432
in my comp from the video i'd actually prefer another black hole on kayron and to delete the fist, but the fist is nice if i decide to play her without kayron, so i kept it
and yes that fist is the best possible one
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>>557191969
What about Veronica?
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>>557172018
Haha, yeah...
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>>557192338
Isn't the ballista an attack card? Probably doesn't work.
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>>557193107
It is, but the way it gets counted is weird sometimes. There are things that proc on attack card usage but don't get procced by ballistas.
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Rita needs a fatter pussy
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>>557193926
True. Her pussy needs to be at least as fat as millia's is/was.
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>>557186990
Just use Amir/Maribell, bro.
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>>557194013
so puffy...
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>>557179942
I do have Looty completed. AFAIK those are about taking the bottom right attack option when you encounter them in an event node. They have a lock thing saying available in 12d or whatever for missions we can't complete yet. Pic related should be the vine lord one but I haven't seen it yet.
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>>557189369
Someone do the math and figure out how close this is to being truly perfect. I didn't even think it was possible to get crit chance that high. Crit chance and crit damage are the least common substats to roll and he must have at least +2 to both on all 6 pieces
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>>557164459
Another (You) for your retardation. At least be sensible when you are complaining.
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>>557195025
it's 20CR and 30CD from substats. any day 1 player assembling their best 2/2/2 will have the same idk why you're so amazed.
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>good cards
>trash items
Every time
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>>557195709
There's literally not a single person in here with 75% crit chance
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>>557196254
that picture says 64.5 crit chance. 27 + 10 + 5 = 42% crit chance comes for free, so 75 is quite a bit bigger than 64.5.
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>>557196738
thought you meant everyone would have 20+30+25 sets by now and I was tripping
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>>557164161
>>557164459
this video was made before this post was made
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>>557196039
where's all your other save data?
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>>557197353
nta but i delete them for money
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>>557197353
I started using Rei this event.
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>>557196039
>stacking morale in the current year
Get with the times old man
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>>557197638
wtf bro they are memories...
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>>557199579
*kiss*
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>>557199837
>memories of getting KNOTed or TENTACLEd
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>>557196039
Why does a support need gear?
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>>557194551
That Maribell's attack is not defense-based, I think it is labelled as fixed damage.
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>>557194551
That's shield-scaling fixed damage.
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>>557203404
>>557203961
Fug. Whelp, time to get a Narja defense boosting deck and punch really hard with Magna.
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>>557200870
Narja sure is popular amongst artists.
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>>557204337
She looks cool + sexy mutant girls.
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I regret not rolling for Narja
Now I'm never gonna get her
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MILK
I NEED MORE BELLA
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>>557204821
It makes me happy seeing the game get art.
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>>557205415
Wdym, Narja is not seasonal. You can get her at any time.
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>>557205415
That's why I rolled for her. I knew I'd never get her if I didn't.

Unfortunately, I didn't roll for Chizuchu. I think she's cute and I like her voice but I had no idea she'd be getting a buff. I rolled Haru recently, but I never had any interest in Haru. I wish it would have been Chizu or a dupe.
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>>557205958
I skipped her and still got spooked. Your turn will come soon enough.
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>>557205958
why does she have Goofy ears again
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Is it unoptimal to roll standard hero banner after you get the free 5 star? Seems like it’s a better idea to use it on the standard partner banner since you can get the 5 star hero when you fail the 50/50
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>>557206848
I'd say stick with the Combatant banner and buy partners with the pink DNA strands you get from rolling. I'd be a hypocrite, but that's what I'd say.
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>>557206848
>you can get the 5 star hero when you fail the 50/50
>Failing the 50/50
>On the partner banner
???
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>>557206848
>Is it unoptimal to roll standard hero banner after you get the free 5 star?
There are no additional guaranteed 5*s after you get your first from the guaranteed banner.

>Seems like it’s a better idea to use it on the standard partner banner since you can get the 5 star hero when you fail the 50/50
Huh? The standard Partner banner is only for Partners. You also can't fail the 50/50 on a Standard banner. What do you mean? Personally I think 5* Partner banner is a waste and if there is a standard Partner that you absolutely think you need, you should buy it with DNA strands
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what do you think of my id banner guys
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>>557207498
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Can a guy get a Hew epiphany around here? Damn
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otsukaresama DEEEEEESU~
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>>557208352
Can't you use that flash of inspiration item on that save data to make it good?
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>>557208718
he could, yeah
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>>557207115
>>557207154
>>557207171
You can get a 5 star standard hero on the limited banner but you can’t get a 5 star standard partner on the limited partner banner so limited hero banner is basically the same as the standard when you lose the 50/50 but u will never get an old 5 star partner unless you roll the standard partner banner
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>>557208352
>take neutral
>get cucked
classic
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>>557208809
if you want an old partner pay the 300. gambling on standard partner banner is insane.
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>>557207498
Who is this lewd harlot?
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>>557209030
But I want to use the 300 on limited rolls
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>>557209373
Do whatever you want, anon. It's your account.
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>>557207498
Unironically hot
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>>557196039
gear effects are minimal though cards are the important thing.
some min-maxing weirdos are even running 0 deck rei with nude gear slots
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>>557211537
>becomes generic moeblob face
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>>557211537
wtf so cute
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>>557211537
Pretty good.
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>>557211537
Cute
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>>557212520
this happened to me twice it just freezes the game until you restart
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What the fuck they murdered Alcea
Is there even any reason to roll for her now?
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>>557214759
she does exactly what her card said before
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>>557215009
The multiplayer isn't the only thing they changed. Now only the combat who partners with her can use her debuff, so you can't just run her on a support and team up with whoever you want anymore. I'm pretty sure her card didn't mention that before.
Normal devs would had refounded her, but we deserve nothing for being smilegate slaves.
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>>557217265
The gibs are over. That was 2025. It's 2026 now.
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Elevens are ANGRY about the nerf
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>>557217694
Show the tweets
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>>557217694
What's elevens
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>>557218963
Mongrel dogs that couldn't do anything until a Britannian carried their asses to independence
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next banner?
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>>557218963
Japanese.
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>>557171221
>>557171921

Honestly, Magna + Nine is a pretty fun combo.
You can build around stacking vulnerability and shields.

Nine has an epiphany that lets her use a Hew on ally counter-attack, and skill that lets her use it for free at the start of the turn. You'll never have to cast it for its 3, or even 2-cost.

I wonder if it's overkill, tho.

One complaint that I have, is that having a healer as a third wheel seems a little awkward, less optimal? Mika gives you crazy sustain and AP. But you stack so much vulnerability with counters that you never end up using all of it.
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except i didnt ask?
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>>557221126
Same.
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>>557089048
>do nothing
>win
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>>557221074
Narja with her defense-boosting epis seems like the optimal support for that team. She'd need to focus on triggering her own Voracity stacks, though.
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>>557221126
Shes a fun once you get her going and stacked.
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>>557222506
Do you still build her for stacking Anchor Shots or do you just go the combo build
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>>557221126
Big JK titties don't care you didn't ask
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>get the dogfucker in a "+2 fury for every enemy killed"
Fuckign retarded devs...
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>>557222576
Combo just works right out the gate, why wouldn't you pick it
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>>557224105
>he's still going into mutant red nodes
>he's still going into mutant red nodes in interior 2nd half
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>>557224687
That was the standard chaos modifier though...
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>>557224809
dogfucker is from the mutant types of enemies (three niggas is passion element/chaos order type, robots are justice/diallos, etc.)
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>>557225115
Did they change it so "elite" basic enemies no longer spawn on normal red nodes?
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>>557225115
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>>557225385
you can tell if a fight is an elite because they have a flaming icon anyways
>>557225386
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>>557225386
I'm doing the event chaos, and the +2 fury on kill was one if it's 4 default modifiers. Idk if i said it incorrectly. While green are the majority, there's like 1/3 enemies that are red faggots.

>>557225568
When did they add this feature? I remember these fags could pop up on any red node.
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Narja nipple teasing
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>>557225734
>Idk if i said it incorrectly.
No I'm just berating you for stepping into red nodes in interior 2nd half with that modifier, any time that happens you're just asking to get your ass beat
Spam event tiles, you want to find the dupe event anyways
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>>557226089
Nothing i could do there. During that run floor 2 had like 3 red walls in front, i just chose the one after the most event nodes.
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RIP
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I just realized, why does a DoT character have crit nodes?
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You've never seen this team before.
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>>557206681
She is a mutt (replica) mixed with Dumbo the elephant.
>>557208560
Heard that in her voice, damn it.
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>>557227074
Most folks grew up in a nuclear family, anon.
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do you think we will ever get an offline version? I'm tired of all the nerfs...
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>>557229452
just mod STS
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>>557229349
cute wife
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>>557229558
I play STS for the gameplay but I play CZN for the goon.
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>>557230163
then mod STS for the goon lol
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>>557229349
>her hand orb has a heart
CUTE
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>>557230226
even if I use all the mods in the world STS will never have the same animation level as CZN.
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>>557226931
Her Cursed Combo that scales off agony can do some insane dmg.
But they literally didn't think about most the starter roster. Like Rei who has dps potentials despite being a buffer (even with the heal changes she still has 2 big dps potentials).
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Just lost a run because Narja had a breakdown right at the Interior boss FUUUUUUUUUCK I HATE MICROMANAGING STRESS
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>Game is doing so well they advertise the launcher's own shit with it
>Still can't do a Steam release
They HATE money
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>>557232326
>doing well
>never tell people their income again
anon,they will lose more money if they dont force you to keep watching their dogass youtube video from their retarded launcher
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>>557221239
the shroom gets nerfed bozo
she wins nothing
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>>557234059
How many times do other gacha companies just announce income randomly eh?
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>>557234398
Hoyoverse, Kuro, Hypergryph and many more you fucking mutt.
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>>557234398
They don't unless you live on planet retard
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>557236951
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>>557236951
That’s not what he asked, illiteratebro.
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The amount of bugs, lack of testing and mistranslations are killing my interest in the game
After all the shit they got about translations its crazy theres still so many errors
The Alcea thing especially left a really bad taste in my mouth, and all the non stop chizuru bugs
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Concern...
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i think im done with this game. i already uninstalled yesterday after they nerfed spores, but ill continue to shitpost in a general for a game that i no longer play.
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>three (3)! whole fucking epiphanies in a chaos run

I see other anons are having similar things happening. It's another bug isn't it?
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Tiphera drip marketing doko?
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I reinstalled and then uninstalled so tomorrow I can say I uninstalled yesterday again.
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>>557240236
It's my turn to say it tomorrow.
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>>557221126
You will take that back in mid-season, it's going to do JUSTICE to your pull.
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I forgot to reinstall to uninstall today...
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>>557239839
Lower level chaos triggers less epiphanies.
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>>557242579
Pssst let the brainlets run tier 8 event chaos over and over again.
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>>557240236
I uninstalled the game from my PC I don't know what the fuck is going on with that Stove client it's like Google chrome that eat your ram.
I'm still playing the game on my phone, turnout gaming on phone is comfy no wonder Japan love it, the game run smoothly on my 6 years old $200 Chinese phone. Probably I'm going to buy gaming phone just to try other gacha games on phone.
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Only masochists still play this kusoge.
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>>557245583
... and still post here.
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>all these neutrals
>they still let me hit all my copies
blessed
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>>557248356
>no +1 ap residual herb

into the trash it goes
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I’m confused at how the devs seem to simultaneously be trying to prevent power creep but also power creep at the same time
New combatants seem to do better than previous 5* combatants, Nine is virtually just a better Haru in almost every way. But at the same time they are extremely stubborn about making powerful partners. Most of the 5* partners except for Peko can literally be swapped for the f2p alternative because chances are you have a max ego f2p 4* that can provide a bigger damage buff over the e0 5* you just pulled that only gives mediocre damage increase
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Holy fuck already nerfed, no fun allowed
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>>557248932
show your roster nigga
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>>557248932
Not making powerful partners is okay when compared to shits like wuwa/hsr where they lock half of the 5*'s kit behind the weapon
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>>557248932
>Most of the 5* partners except for Peko can literally be swapped for the f2p alternative
I don't see the issue? It's great that a signature isn't paramount to a character's performance.
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The spore nerf is iffy but are people really okay with Alcea's nerf? A rate up partner that you have to spend premium currency/swipe for?
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Is the news about unhappy nips mass refunding Alcea real or not
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>>557249512
>>557250747
This game is just stingy, no fun allowed, and buggy/low effort as fuck
Feels like the devs don't give a fuck anymore
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>>557252475
it's fake
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>>557252475
It was never meant to be a 100% damage buff (bugged). You can see here in the Japanese notes it's 20% at 1 stack max.
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>>557177247
>no one should ever feel like they should roll a unit that they don't even like
That's literally their job
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>>557190368
That's a 2/2/2 set though so it has inflated attack/critdam.
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>>557249512
That's it, I'm uninstalling!
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Yuki bros...
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Guys nerfs are ALWAYS a good thing, gooks riot at the slightest provocation which means COMPENSATION. I hope SG fucks up constantly so I get a steady stream of free shit.
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bros...the god run has started
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>>557255207
You have the selection buff unlocked, don't you...?
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>>557254817
Enjoy your 1 (one) flash as compensation
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>>557255302
:^)
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>>557253587
If they caught and fix the bug on day 1-2 it would've been whatever, they fixed it a whole WEEK after her banner released
What they "meant" does not matter, people compared Alcea and Wilhelmia in chaos with the Distortion adaption, watched damage calcs, and agreed that she is way better than Wilhelmia, so they pulled. This is literally false advertising
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Bros why was my Amir, Maribell and Mika run actually really good. maybe it's amir being E6 or is she a sleeper unit. I've only played for a week...
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>>557256493
What run?
Baby tier 8 event chaos?
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Beryl is emblematic of the worst of CZN design.
Was intended to have a play style that would theoretically be pretty interactive and satisfying to pull off. Almost all of her cards are telling you to do this, with minor variations.
But then there's one epiphany that reduces her other cards to just "does it say retain on it" while ignoring everything else on the card, and it scales multiplicatively when copied so it's really busted when you farm chaos enough to win the 3-copy roulette with good items.
Meanwhile her cards are otherwise so undertuned that the thing she was supposed to do sucks ass.
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>>557257265
She performs alright in Chaos in her normal playstyle and the upgrade path is terrible in chaos. This all goes back to constructed being a bad mode.
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>>557256493
double vanguard is very strong in chaos, even if it's amir and maribell
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Tressa feels like shit these days, even when i didnt get heal daggers it wasnt too bad to run her, the new agony change is terrible
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>>557258569
It's only going to get worse
Beryl and Rei are next on the chopping block
They will make it so only the current banner character is viable
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>>557255207
Did you get a good niggwalsky epiphany too?
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>>557254817
>save data as compensation doesnt do shit when you spam codex in the end
>why even farming deck when they will nerf shit
dogshit compensation for your times at codex arent worth of a thing unless you just play codex twice per week
why even play the game at this point
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>>557254532
Everything I said still stands. I don't have any character with even one (1) of those stats that high, and I also use attack and crit damage sets.
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How are HaruGODS building her this season now that deckbuilding doesn't suck donkey dick?
I've been thinking about the best way to make her work and this is the best I could come up with.
In theory with this exact build you should be able to play 5 anchor shots every single turn (organic draw, 3 pointers and critical return) after setup. Of course it requires quite a few godly epiphanies but still.
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>>557254532
i gave up getting this kind of gear when i had 2 near-perfect right side pieces (double crit atk% + 1 dump stat) roll everything into the dump stat
shit unironically feels worse than hsr despite flat stats being actually good here
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>>557258962
NTA but that fucker gets deleted
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>>557252475
>>557250747
which nerf? they did not change her card text at all
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>>557244175
>77 clears
wtf?
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Special valentine lobby screen of Renoa sucking my cock where
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>>557259759
i think for haru, fishing for the +30% damage divine epi on her strongest-hitting anchor is more important than AP on pointers
all that AP on pointers achieves is it makes her not chained to mika, but honestly I don't mind it, she's a much better teammate for her than narja because narja only gives additive buffs
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>>557226931
do not look at Magna potentials...
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>>557260408
At least counterattacks can actually crit now
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>>557260505
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>>557260308
Solid point on the anchor shot epiphany.
The reason for using narja and the AP is simply to have a thin, consistent deck that guarantees playing everything every turn, even with the worst possible draw order.
Does mika buff Haru in any way? Narja has predation + 1 ap cheating and the requirement is playing shackles once every turn.
What would you do differently?
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>>557260505
Wait, really? I quite working on her after I found that out.
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>>557260747
Yeah, they buffed counterattacks in the season 2 patch. Now you can land critical hits with them.
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I'm retarded, I can't get double vanguard working properly in higher tier chaos runs
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>>557261402
Just shield?
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>>557260676
i'm doing it in my head so correct me if i'm wrong
haru deck - divine anchor, 3 pointers, lift, charge upgrade, erase the rest
mika deck - deluge, blessing of waves (hold in hand without casting), 3 divine sources with draw
i am missing 2 ap to cast the 4th anchor every turn here, so the last member could be veronica with ap repose, or maybe nia with ap adagio
alternatively you try to get a haru with divine anchor and 3 divine ap anchor searches, but that'd need a max tier run where you get both of those divines, in theory that's the strongest possible haru deck though
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I rolled for Nine's partner banner and got her without losing the 50/50. Was it worth?
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>>557261787
>got her without losing the 50/50
Sis...
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>>557260676
oh, you could also go with a divine ap source on mika (so each source gives 2 ap) for 9 total ap per turn, and run a card drawer as your 3rd to draw the deck out every turn
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>>557261787
There is no 50/50 on partners
And she just got nerfed
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>>557261981

Oh.. still worth or no? I only just started playing and Nine is my only good unit.
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>>557261981
>And she just got nerfed
wrong
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>>557262186
nothing got changed, her text was not changed and will not be changed she is working like she was announced
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>>557260676
and going off the mika with divine source idea, you can go with just the anchor shot divine on haru and get 4 anchor searches instead, then as long as your card drawer has at least one +ap card you'll have 10 ap to cast it 5 times, (or i guess you could run glorious resistance lol)
OR you could get a max tier mika with 4 sources
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>>557261774
Let me make some quick math here and asume the worst possible draw order
You have lift anchor and blessing of waves retained in hand
Your draw pile consists on
>3 anchor pointer
>1 anchor shot
>3 sources with draw
>what is the worst possible draw order here?
Probably 1 anchor shot and 1 source which is still all 3 sources. That's 6 AP.
If you have some reposes with 1AP, and they're all at the bottom, you're drawing no extra cards but have 7 AP. Which is still fine, I have E2 Haru so I can still blap anchor 5 times every turn (assuming I crit once) even if it's not at full power.
So it comes down to ceiling vs consistency.
I'll concede any day that your version is probably less nightmarish to farm but I would honestly burn a flash to get this deck, even if I got the 30% divine epi on the dogshittiest anchor shot I'd swap that shit on a heartbeat.

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>>557262318
I don't like that as much because draw order can fuck you up (see above). I don't want to be playing a fight and seeing 4 anchor pointers with no AP and 1 anchor shot and passing, that's sad.
Maybe this is not the deck I should be thinking about with a consistent gameplan, autistic minmaxx grindset.
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>>557262190
>>557262239
No matter how you put it, she got gutted (and wasn't even that strong before the nerf)
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>>557262521
i'm going to theorycraft it later to try making it 100% consistent like my kayron magna team, i love haru anyway so it's about time i did it
thank you for throwing out the idea
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>>557262659
2.5x damage multi on a hit isn't strong?
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>>557262673
Oh so you're that guy. I'm the other kayron anon, I was thinking about Haru and throwing some ideas around.
I'm having a hard time living without Narja, she's so good.
Take care brother!
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>>557261596
Feels like my shields get busted open the further I get into chaos
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>>557249512
Good.
If you're gonna do insane damage it has to be more complicated than stack 1 status effect to infinity.
I'm glad they learned from the TCM fiasco and are adapting more swiftly now.
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>>557262659
you are braindead, she was bugfixed
her debuff worked in an unintended way
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>they nerfed something
>again
Just remove the leaderboard, man.
Fuck these devs.
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retarded concern poster you are 12 hours late...
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>>557263608
Sorry hopejeet, I don't play CZN 24/7.

Do you enjoy that they keep nerfing things solely because there is a leaderboard in the game? Personally I don't.
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>>557263701
yeah don't care, i never stacked the spores above 4 i think
it was a niche abuse
calling it a nerf is just as braindead as calling a fix a nerf
tressa got nerfed to shit, that is something i would agree with
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>>557263701
I do.
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>>557263448
Yeah sure, you can call anything a bugfix if you try hard enough I guess
Won't change the fact that she got destroyed and is now worth less than a 4* partner
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>>557264001
>hopejeet is now saying that nerfs aren't nerfs
>also we enjoy the nerfs
You continually surprise me with how much hope you gleefully jeet on a daily basis.
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>>557264076
Oh, and we don't even get any gibs anymore. We just get one of those cards that lets you change an epiphany.
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>>557264004
that is just wrong but who cares



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