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Howdy Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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deadcock
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>>556929578
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Kinda funny that the person Holliday is tracking sounds almost exactly like it could be Itachi
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Pocket sisters
realistically how do we bounce back from this?
his reputation is in the mud... i dont' want warden or infernus chuds to laugh at me...
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Yoshi here.
How do we fix her?
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>>556929673
>his
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>>556929697
add David Lynch into the game
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Celeste is fuckung USELESS late game, trash hp boon scaling, spirit damage falls off same as everyone else, no utility outside of scilence that only works on retards
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>>556929673
*their
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>>556929697
I've already told you yoshster, you only have to implement one or more of the solutions I outlined in my forum post
Hop to
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>>556929789
>champ has built in psi blades
>he builds spirit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC_Y4zOUdcI

Why do we hate Celeste again?
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How long will I have to wait until I can play her?
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>had no idea wtf everyone meant saying Celeste is a movement hero
>doesn't have any fucking movement skills
>look it up
ohhhhhh, they gave her fucking bunny hopping like Quake
I hope they don't remove it or whatever cause from another point of view you could look at it like a horse prancing
it's thematic
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>>556929884
She also has sicknasty spirit scaling
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When are they gonna add a NotDeanWinchester monster hunter voiced by Jensen Ackles?
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>>556929697
Have bloodlust build slowly all the time and dmg just makes it go faster

Really you just want to buff her ease of use because the pros like her its just the noobs who dont
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>>556929893
modern anons are insecure
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>>556929884
I do think people sleep on the bullet bounce, her dps is basically double what is listed
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Once you've laned against Rem+Graves, you'll never stop wanting to beat Yoshi to death with your bare hands
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>>556929697
Fuck off, she's currently the best hero for smurfing in sub oracle.
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>>556929979
>the pros like her its just the noobs who dont
this is a fucking retarded meme the self-declared "pros" in their made up fucking e-sports league that isn't fucking real in the fucking closed alpha game full of placeholder mats say they like her, first pick her every game she isn't banned, and then do literally fucking nothing on her the entire game

it's just a mass circlejerk psychosis by fucking grifting e-celeb retards
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How do I become an expert at ratting?
Is ratting something I can do every game?
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>>556929697
remove human form

make her permanently a werewolf

and give her big tits
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>>556930082
Nothing will rage me harder than queing a shotgun hero into a vindicta
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>>556929697
Silver doing a live celebration sex scene with me like Edge and Lita
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People were arguing over troonshit but this slut is LITERALLY just a fucking humanized MLP character.
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>>556930158
There is 2 ingredients for peak ratting imo

Gun stim+ escape. Wraith has both that why she is the best rat but you can make anyone with one of those 2 work
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Wait, celeste has quake style b hopping?
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>>556930158
Get killed
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>>556929979
>pros
She was deadweight in those "pro" matches and literally just released
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>>556930279
yes
all of this game has the inevitable source engine's strafing mechanics to some small extent (strafing while dashing at an angle is slightly higher speed than doing it straight forward, angled movement is always higher speed in source engine)

www.youtube.com/shorts/D379AGBsME0
but Celeste goes all out in this regard, it's like an unstated passive of hers
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>>556930174
Understand that not having any control over the matchups you get or the team comps you get is part of the experience and working as intended chud. Objectively unfavorable lanes help Valve gather data to confirm that they are indeed unfavorable and your loss helps test the game by amusing Yoshi
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>>556930285
Ratting is peak moba, its playing the game as intended. The win condition is shooting towers, rats simply play to win

Your hatred spawned from ignorance
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>>556929526
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>>556930447
People Kelvin Kevin is still peak sovl
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>>556930313
>>556930131

Ok but THEY LIKE HER so there is no problem
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>>556930382
>prancing around like a pony
big, huge even
volvo pls no kill
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>>556930127
>balancing around what smufs pick
You retarded?
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>>556929526
I play Daredevil in rivals and Scout in tf2 who should I main in this game?
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someone ai'd clothes on celeste and i kinda dig it...
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Is celeste friends with ringmaster
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>>556930262
I've tried it a little bit with mcginnis because I had been recommended her for her sheer damage output on buildings, though she has no escape.
Are there times where I should fight people? Like if there are small skirmishes happening in every lane? I have an autistic hatred of fighting other people and I basically prefer to avoid interacting with the enemy team as much as possible. So in order to do this I feel like I need to maximize and farm as effeciently as possible.
I've never been very interested in wraith but I do like ivy. You think shes a worse rat than wraith?
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>>556930647
nobody asked
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>>556930647
>office lady celeste
she should give me a buttjob through our clothes in the office supply closet while I suck her earlobe and smell her hair
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>>556930520
I see other high rank players say she's bad, so what gives?
It's bad to balance exclusively around what your 0.1% of players think, plus Silver's winrate is shit in all skill brackets.
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>>556930572
Boss baby
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>>556930647
i can't imagine how coomed out the inevitable community hats for her will be
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>>556930572
Drifter or lash.
Drifter is all about getting up close and personal while lash is about hit and run tactics with a teamfight ult to set up/nuke the enemy team.
Warden too because once he is online, they can't get away from him
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>all the f*males have 2 stam
>except for celeste with double at 4
HMMMMMMMM
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Yeah, Silver needs to be nerfed.
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>>556930935
>Dainty foids vs Stacy circus worker
Yeah
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>>556930935
geist, wraith, yamato, holliday, haze, ivy?
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>>556929526
shp thoughts on celest?
i think she is alright, not broken but not too weak either
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>>556931076
She is retarded in lane and an annoyance every other part of the game
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>>556930935
You guys try harder to paint Celeste as a tranny than trannies ever have.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Irony poisoned?
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>>556930378
>sexual liberation is fake and was pushed by the porn industry
Huh.
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>>556931016
Silver only having 2 base stamina is retarded unless it's literally them justifying it with her alcoholism and "smoking too much"
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>>556930750
No ivy is very good, her escape is the ult but you dont need to escape often so its fine

For fighting you will pretty much always be in a 1v1 with the enemy lane janny, ideally they send 2 people to deal with you and you escape alive. You want to force people to rotate in response to you as a secondary obj beyond tower clicking.
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>YOU ARE NOT PREPARED
would he fit in this game or is drifter too similar? turning nyc into nighttime would be cool.
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Kek you guys were right last year. Most of the "Top players" from the early days are now irrelevant trash like everyone else.
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>>556931197
he lives entirely off the day night mechanic that deadlock doesn't have so he can't work unless you actually want him to always be in night mode.
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I'm still a shitter overall, but doing pretty good with Silver imo
I think she already works, but if I could get any buffs I'd want:
- 3 stam
- a bit more health in human form
- make the Bola last a bit longer
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Its me /pol/ community leader, due to recent news we are leaving Deadlock permanently because nonconformist pronouns are scary for us simple minded thralls. Its da troons and da joos and game is ruined forever.
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Celeste is the best character they released yet
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OUR FUARKING HERO

4CHAN WON
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>>556931197
I always thought Drifter is the Nightstalker port to Deadlock
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>>556931263
Are these street brawl numbers?
She's significantly stronger in street brawl than standard, I win most of my street brawl matches as Silver
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>>556931248
yeah I think adding a day night cycle would be interesting, no?
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>>556931130
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>>556931317
I'd kek if the VA turns out to be Tara Strong. Guess we'll expect her retweeting Celeste smut and voice porn audios like she did with Twilight.
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>>556931235
Literally every single Deadlock e-celeb/"pro" that's relevant right now will be lucky to not fall off so hard that they're bagging fries once the game is actually "out" if it has even a modicum of success in the mainstream.
Not a single one of the future "Deadlock prodigies" has likely even installed the game before.
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>>556929697
New voice actress, new writing, new wolf form abilities.
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What's the scariest deadlock image ever?
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>>556931148
Bruh
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>>556931317
Idgi
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>>556931076
I wanted her to be a support, I'm disappointed she isn't
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>>556931370
No, it's standard
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Most of the Deadlock active players on steamcharts are idle bots
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>>556929893
I don't /mlp/ bros are based.
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>>556931480
>I'm disappointed she isn't
But she is
>Build Rescue Beam
You're welcome :)
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>>556931440
do NOT click this
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>>556931491
What's your rank, post a scoreboard
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>>556931480
supports in ice fraud games kill people instead
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>>556931558
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>>556931558
We need high quality Blender models of her so we can start getting the really nasty shit to cringegoon to until we drop
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>>556930769
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>>556931451
Friendship is magic.
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>>556931631
tippie tappie tippie tappie :))
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>>556931594
she's a mage carry
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>>556931440
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what ethnicity is celeste?
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>>556931637
>the really nasty shit
the higest quality Deadlock animation so far is Mina getting fucked by a nigger, we're already into the "nasty shit"
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>>556931751
you just know
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>>556931751
Gipsy slav
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>>556931197
I jerk off to him often
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>>556931751
whatever fucking ethnicity vyper is
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>>556931693
I was initially thinking of this scene desu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=n56dh3VLRFI
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>>556931751
she talks like a brooklyn jew

typically it's jews who lean into the accent that hard
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>>556931178
So you say I'm in a 1v1 with the lane janny, ideally due to the high farm I get I should be ahead in souls and able to kill them right? Or does it even matter and ai just ignore them and just kill the creeps any time they try to counter shove?
Once two people come to the lane I'm in you think its fine to leave and try to start ratting somewhere else?
Where do jungle camps fit in? Should I even technically be going for them? Should I ideally always be in a lane?
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>>556931770
It's not nasty until she gets put in an animation where she gets fucked in every hole by Resident Evil zombie dogs and then filled with so much undead doggy cum that her stomach inflates to three times the normal size of a third trimester pregnancy
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>>556931751
a sexy one
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My only experience with MOBAs was a good 800+ hours I put on Smite where I exclusively played support.
Who should I pick? I'm liking the look of Graves (god bless flat girls) but she doesn't look like a tank to me, despite her having a wall and some CC.
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>>556931913
ratting?
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>>556931887
They should've given us some mystic rabbi hero with that accent instead
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>>556931317
The leather jacket is from bacon hair.
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>>556931915
That's less disgusting than her fucking a nigger.
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the whole base defence system they have makes me want to bang my head against the wall
in 9/10 games it's fucking OVER once they get weakened patron, especially if they still have walkers up but game just drags out for 5-10 more minutes before they mid and end.
just remove tier 1 patron, make patron go weakened once you kill the shrines BUT make shrines respawn after a few minutes this would make comebacks more likely as the shrines add an extra layer of protection and also make stomp games easier to end. they should also make the patron invul if a single member of the team is in the pit, like the whole point of invul patron is so they actually have to fight you instead of focusing the patron.i don't think i've played a game where patron invul actually mattered(is there a delay on when it kicks in).
They have all this bullshit setup for comebacks but they don't fucking matter just make the games drag out for way longer
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>>556931969
paige is a shielding support
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>>556931631
Who is a good girl? Whosagoodgirl?
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I dreamt that Celeste raped me with her horsecock and gave me diabetes because her cum had that much sugar in it
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>>556931969
She can sort of be a tank
Her S3 means her basic attacks reduce enemy weapon(physical) damage
If you build Silencer on her her basic attacks will also reduce enemy spirit(magical) damage
And if you build Inhibitor her basic attacks will also just reduce enemy damage AND debuff enemy healing

At max rank her S3 lets her use her basic attack on multiple enemies at once. You can "tank" by making the enemy do no damage(as opposed to making yourself take less damage)
With Ricochet which causes your basic attacks to bounce to more targets, you can be the biggest nigger in every lategame teamfight
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>>556931969
>doesn't look like a tank
Game has dota design philosphy so you can build anyone tanky, some are slightly better at it due to base hp. Building graves kind of tanky has it's merits due to her limited range but she isn't really an engager like you'd expect from a tank. I'd say try Kelvin, Dynamo, Ivy, or Paige if you are a degenerate.
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>>556932158
A week ago I would have called you a retard but her skulls have been nerfed so many times that I don't know if there's a point to stacking spirit items on her anymore. The future might be M1gger Graves. Rushing three 6.4k items is still retarded though
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>>556932024
unironically would have felt more like nyc
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>>556931317
I don't care how fun she is, I'm not playing a girly magic pony.
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>>556931770
Why do you keep bringing this up?
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>>556932040
This design would be nice to see, some type of caster that can be built nuker or support.
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>>556931317
>has lyra's cutie mark tattooed on her thigh
Oh yeah, shes built for /mlp/ horsefuckers
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>>556931440
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>>556932452
>some type of caster that can be built nuker or support.
The humble full purple Dynamo suicide bomber
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>>556932024
Would jews be upset about this?
They always complain jew representation in media is mean and racist. What if deadlock money wizard is actually cool looking and badass, surely they won't be against it.
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>>556931197
night RAPER would be cool but drifter kind of already is that. Also we need daynight cycles for his kit to function.
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>>556932327
I'm still fucking angry
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>>556931631
Read so much shit with her on AO3
>>556932110
>>556932248
>Paige
Not touching her until they add a skin or something that gets rid of her gl*sses
Think I'll have to play around a lot more to get a good sense for this game. Just say that Graves had an Ymir wall (plus her design) and instantly gravitated towards her.
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>>556932452
If theres going to be a witch hero, I think more people want weatherwax over magical girl.
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whoever ok'd that fucking unicorn ball needs to perish
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>>556932579
Is there good stuff now? Last I checked it was just half a dozen pieces of yurishit
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>>556932553
Stop it just makes you like a fetishist, I don't want to be reminded that stuff even exists.
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Why is there no female front line character?
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>>556932630
>yurishit
That's all I'm into, so I wouldn't know.
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Will Silver still be pick or ban in the fake esports shit this week
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>>556932686
Your Geist?
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Celeste's biggest problem is that she doesn't do anything
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>>556932686
girls have -4 strength
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>>556932617
STAY FROSTY!
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>>556932527
if he casted money spells it probably wouldn't go over well
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>>556932483
its fucking disgusting to think that she pisses through that thing and also passes period blood through it. she squats down with her thighs apart so her pussy lips open up more and she can spread herself more easily to grope for then tug out her tampon. smells faintly of copper, pee and vaginal discharge. with the tampon free comes a small puff of moisture and body heat from her core as her abdominal muscles readjust. and behind all that is her womb and ovaries full of trypophobia inducing little eggs waiting to get speared by a sperm. gross little skank she better stay out of my lane
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UNPROTECTED RAW SEX WITH TARA STRONG
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Has anyone animated Mina doing the VTMB dance?
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so what's celeste's deal? she's a burst mage carry, nuker, with quake style movement?

that's pretty cool desu
I'm surprised her shield can't be optionally cast on allies, I really thought she'd be closer to Lux (cc, support oriented, but with some nuking ability)
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>>556932894
IMO she's the best designed of the new heroes so far. They managed to make a caster hero actually interesting to use without it being braindead
>I cast nuke
from a mile away.
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>>556932872
We need a third vampire, Mina and Drifter aren't enough for a backalley party like that
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>>556932872
the what? is that some sorta unc thing?
doood what the fuck why are you fuckin here man you're so old where's your wife go home to your family bluddd
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Reminder to report this tranny if you see him in your game, using silent aim to shoot your legs for headshots on holiday.
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>>556932894
She is anti-Ivy with built in fly.
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>>556932989
Silver (when she's complete) and Celeste are my favorites so far
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>>556932872
yes please
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>>556933034
>No steamid
yeah he will change pfp and username and disappear, good report cuck
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>>556931770
>>556932327
>>556932553
>>556932648

The fragility of porn-addicted incels is always hilarious to observe. You already admitted to being a fucking loser who watches sfm porn but you're having a melty over a black dude. lmao.
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am I supposed to gain more distance if im air strafing? coz i can't seem to get it right
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I still want my fortune teller utility character
>can plant runic mines as a form of prediction
>can plant scrying orbs that function as wards
>can astrally project and detach his spirit from his body giving him fast freeflying but being fragile in spirit form
>can ult to reveal every enemy on the minimap. Gets to use invoker sunstrike or a global skill like it to execute enemies and gain stacking buffs to moveset.
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I want Apollo's kit to just be K-style.
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>Drifter can smell the period blood of all the female heroes
>By knowing when each female hero is on her period, he can infer when her ovulation is
No wonder he and Mina don't see eye to eye...
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>Play with Ivy as Victor
>ambush ults me to Paige and Celeste
>ragglefraggle them both to death

That was so fun, I was getting insane heals just by Q, running everyone down to death, just like mundo!
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>community is convinced that Silver is OP despite sitting at a 45% winrate in every ELO
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>>556933142
>The fragility of porn-addicted incels
it's not that deep, I can tell you're a nigger or nigger ally
>a fucking loser who watches sfm porn
literally who gives a shit about watching sfm porn hentai is one of the most searched terms on pornhub
>but you're having a melty over a black dude
>"black dude"
it's a nigger actually, and we just fucking hate niggers, everyone hates niggers except niggers and jew golems, we don't want to see niggers
sorry, but we fucking hate niggers and don't want to see them
we hear enough about nigger dick in jew media we don't want to see them in our porn
sorry I just hate "blacks" as you would call them (niggers) and have since childhood, instinctively, haha I know that's terrible, sorry they're just dirty, smell like ass, and are violent stupid animals, and offensive to look at, I know I'm sorry I just hate your people for entirely valid reasons
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>>556933007
What type? An ugly vamp like Nosferatu? or a Damon Salvatore pretty boy vampire?
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>discovering some of the techs holliday can do
what the hell holliday is the hardest character in this game, I was retarded for suggesting her to my newfriend when he wanted an m1 character.
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>Celeste's bullets don't have any damage falloff
Pity she doesn't do any damage
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>>556933430
Classic Dracula, even older than Drifter and posh.
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>>556933371
literally a masturbatory self-induced psychosis and delusion by the self-proclaimed "pro" players of the game (there is no such thing as a "pro" Deadlock player it's a fucking closed alpha game) and the retarded subhuman sheep who listen to them
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>>556933371
It's because when she does perform well she's an unstoppable giganigger like Victor without needing to afk farm for 25 minutes to be useful. So the matches where a Silver rapes everyone leaves a bigger impression than the ones where she's just another nameless feeding retard
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>you automatically drop urn if you go through doormans doorway
>but ivy flying you to the drop off or kelving building you an ice bridge to the drop off is fine
Wtf man
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>>556933413
nta, stopped reading at the part where you appealed to statistics
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>>556933562
waaa wa waaaa waaaaa
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>>556933165
You gain speed yeah, press only the strafe buttons and move the mouse same direction, jump timing is important too.
Watch some strafe in source games vids with keyboard visualizers
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>design i like the least ends up being my favourite gameplaywise
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>>556933413
This is a funny read when you realize it's some white twink with glasses who'll never speak like this to another person in the real world.
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>>556933034
bro every profile has a number assigned that can not change, copy that number and use it in your post
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>>556933165
You gain more speed when airstrafing but because you have to turn to do it you can end up getting less straight-line distance sometimes, unless you alternate your turning back and forth to stay on your intended path.
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>>556933165
diagonal air dashes go further, if you're going directly left/right it won't go further. Gotta go on the diag.
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>"counter" to celeste ult is to split up
>it has a search radius of 20 swimming pools
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>I want [random fantasy archetype that doesn't fit Deadlock in any way]
>Ohhh that's so cool. Well, I want [random fantasy archetype that clashes with Deadlock's aesthetics]
>Yooo that's sick, in that case I'd like to see [random fantasy archetype that out-powerscales every single hero in the current roster by an exponential magnitude]
This exact process is happening not just here but in Valve's dev team channels which is why Deadlock's visual coherence is somehow managing to fall apart faster than TF2 the wacky chungus hat game
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>>556933637
well her design kinda doesn't fit the gameplay imo

like honestly if I'm going to play a slutty unicorn with a ditzy voice, I want to just sit in the back, press a heal button and drool on myself
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>>556933804
that's already paige's gimmick just replace the heal by shields
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>>556933791
it took volvo like 5 years to open the floodgates and let retard hats rape their game, now nu-valve is going for the speedrun
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>>556933791
yeah, as opposed to your ideas, which all would have been brilliant, perfect conceptually and saved the game
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>>556933545
>without needing to afk farm for 25 minutes to be useful
I wish people who have never touched the character would stop posting about her
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>>556933791
Brvtal trvke but there's nothing to be done. We don't even have cosmetics yet
In the future we'll be looking back on pre-release Deadlock and wishing it never left beta
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>>556932481
if only she showed her horse form
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>>556933921
it's support gameplay in general
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>Celeste's rope animations

Bros.....
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>>556933659
ongod
he wouldn't say that shit to a black king's face cause he'd stomp is cracka ass frfr
and then he'd fuck my girlfriend as reparations and I'd clap
dap me up my nigga
youtube comments section tier reply
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>>556933952
>Why are you shitting on the table?
>"Well how about YOU shit on table, genius? You think your shit is going to smell any better?"
I'm not the one posting random bullshit suggestions
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>>556934071
I'd love to see an animation of Celeste's ropes
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>>556933371
reminder that mina got nerfed like five times in a row while sitting at ~45% wr according to stat-trackers
winrate says absolutely nothing about character strength at top level where people are actually taking advantage of the kits
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>>556932617
I figured it would suck vs counterspell
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>>556933475
That seems to be how they balance her. You're supposed to be bhopping and flying around with her, which is why her bullets have tracking and no falloff. That way she is newbie friendly. But to do damage, you have to get close and hit with 1 first.
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>>556934181
does it delete the ball or does it just keep bouncing?
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Kelvin is such a laughably bad hero atm he basically does nothing aside from dome and then if ANYONE buys spirit burn his entire teams even more fucked being trapped inside the thing.
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yes
butt have you thought about brooling
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>>556933165
You used to be able to gain meaningful extra distance from air strafing like in this video https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cpOZ0H9dXVw, but not anymore. A lot of experienced players still air-strafe constantly out of habit from when it did work. But it is still useful to do regardless, to be able to veer left/right at the same velocity as you would going straight.
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>>556933791
ok but what if Huge Dragon
But dressed as Jew Banker
With belly covered in gems rolling on you
Talking in a funny ye old English
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Abrams is better at being both silver forms at once
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>>556934234
it keeps bouncing, test it in the training zone
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>>556932857
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>>556934128
you're literally implying that if you shat on the table, it in fact would not stink
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>>556934195
>why her bullets have tracking
dude what the fuck are you talking about?
celeste's bullets have tracking?
how? when? I fucking tried her for 5 minutes in the practice area just fucking around
her fucking bullets don't "track"
they don't innately ricochet off heroes either only objects
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Crazy to think half the trannies who play Deadlock wont be alive to see its full release
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>>556934343
Where?
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>>556934310
Trvke
Silver is way more fun though, but she does need buffs
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>>556934367
>they don't innately ricochet off heroes either only objects
they do, depends on the angle
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>>556934085
I'm not the one having a meltdown sis.
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>>556933791
Point to the posts in this thread that you're referring to
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>get good items
>win
>get bad items
>lose
Cool gamemode icefrog
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>>556933371
Shiv and vindicta has always been at that % and we are talking back when Vindicta's stake was a guarantee kill during laning phase and was an autowin on laning phase
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>>556934557
all mobas and modes are like that
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>>556934426
where you implied that you know better than any other jerkoff redditor on the internet about what "does or doesn't fit deadlock"
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i want a REAL turbo mode instead of brool icefraud
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>>556933562
door is instant
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>>556934602
no, mobas are >get bad teammates >lose
streetbrawl is nothing but a coin flip.
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Is her ult easy to counterspell? And if you are holding the ball cant you just dispell it?
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>>556934367
When they bounce theres a cone that checks for targets and tracks to them. It makes shooting from highground really easy.
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How 2 git gud at movement
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>>556933791
>>556934030
>2029
>You log on to Deadlock
>Fireworks effects as you're informed the premium battlepass for SEASON 16: LOCK DEADER is now available in the store for 1799 DeadBucks
>Go to the main menu (Hideout was removed) and there are 4 different currency types in the upper right
>Hit Play
>Draft phase, all teammates' names are censored to prevent toxicity
>You lock Kelvin and select the Santa Kelvin skin
>Go ingame
>Your lane partner is Ivy with a lava skin and a bowler hat that costs $192.03 on the Steam community market
>But her StatTrak[TM] gun only has 14 kills on it when you inspect
>Opposing laners are Bebop and Mina
>Bebop is doing the kazotsky kick waiting for creeps to arrive
>Mina is wearing the coomer Summer Swelter skin that puts her in a bikini but also has equipped a traditional Korean scholar-gentry's hat
>Her StatTrak[TM] pistol is Fairfax's Own Professional Killstreak with 9000+ kills
>Suddenly you hear your teammates in another lane manage to die before even a single minute passes, announced by the special Gaben Patron Pack
>Mina hits the griddy
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my favorite part of playing celeste is when a CHUD thinks he escaped but he walks into a jungle camp and it bounces to it and kills him :3
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How bunnyhop and airstrafe well?
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>>556934740
practice
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>>556934760
>Ivy
Removed in 2027. Your lane partner is actually Dracula(licensed crossover with Castlevania)
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valentine's day even this week, right?
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>soft rework
silver
graves
>number adjustment
venator
rem
silver
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>>556934760
What will be the australium/knife/glove/arcana/persona of the game?
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Am I the only one who cant help but peek at Silver's pitiful chest when shes on the zipline? Every time?
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how many games does it take to farm a prio token these days?
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>>556934921
Yeah where winning a game gives you a rose and you vote on who best girl is
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>>556934850
>bunnyhopping
who bunnyhops in this game, you fuck up the timing and doublejump, wasting stamina
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>>556934760
Enjoy what we have now
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>>556934760
>deadlock file size is 80 gb because they added 30 new maps for new gamemodes
>also autochess mode in the same client that you cant get rid of
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>>556934850
just be steady and smooth (not the same as slow) and pan the same movement direction you're holding, that's all airstrafing is, you'll get it with practice
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Big Blue Bull is OP
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>>556934990
not a bad idea actually, someone should tell yoshi to add this
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>>556934971
Celeste is the only one i have nothing to peak at...
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>>556934732
I noticed they bounce. I stood in front of Abrams and tried to bounce them off the wall behind him to hit him.
I had to get the literal perfect angle. Then I bounced them off the wall above and behind him to try and make it land on him. I had to find the perfect perfect angle and arc trajectory but eventually did and confirmed the ricochet can headshot.

But at no point was there any sort of fucking tracking involved, I literally wrote it off as a neat gimmick that has little real use whatsoever based on how hard it was to angle.
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abrams is so brainless strong i would have died 20 times on any other tank by now
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I'm gonna punch the hell out of you.
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>>556934943
Venator is using mall ninja knives instead of wooden stakes
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>>556934917
castlevania crossover would be good though

make it an NBA 2K crossover playable Victor Wembayana and now it's properly aids
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>>556935057
I want his BBC (Big Blue Cock)
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celeste would be better if she was a twink tbqh
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>>556935029
>>also autochess mode in the same client that you cant get rid of
This is LITERALLY League
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Anyone who plays rapid recharge viscous is a giant faggot. YOU ARE NOT GOOD
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>>556934980
Definitely way less. Probably like 3 standard games
>>556935067
It would be a scandal if Graves won
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>>556935119
haha well please don't do it directly on my asshole haha that would really suck!!!!!!!!!
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>>556934993
skill issue, I can frame perfect bhop without triggering double jump.
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>>556935198
yeah that's the joke
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>I'm not a one trick pony, I got like... four
her retard accent is cute
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>>556935245
post proof
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does dotard still do the bootleg captains mode in immortal where the highest ranked guys pick their team?
IMAGINE if deadcock used that once it finally comes out
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>>556935298
she sounds like harley quinn
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Am I high or did they nerf Celestes shield duration since release? Was it always just 4 seconds?
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Maid Mina who is bad at doing chores
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>>556935198
I think dota did it first funny enough
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>>556934171
>winrate says absolutely nothing about character strength at top level where people are actually taking advantage of the kits
But what does is her performance during those games
They pick/banned her every other match for some reason even though she had zero impact
Make up another excuse why she doesn't need at least some small buffs though
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Does having the orb bounce on your shield just refresh the duration or does it refill the full barrier amount?
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>>556935201
Therr are two types of players
>Boring FIST GOOBER
>Chad Splatter house
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>>556935446
And then Geist spanks her
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>>556935107
Easy to see if you hit the floor.
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>>556935592
Ricochet seems like it'd be fun on her
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>>556935376
You clearly dont play dota, enough, or watch it enough to know this system is trash
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>>556935592
how the HECK does the wall bounce track that far
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these are the two most unpleasant teammates ive had in months
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>>556935201
I know :)
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>>556935540
cause her ult is retarded and she can shred the backline for free
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Why are incels upset that tattooed hot girls won't fuck them?
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>>556935719
Combined kda of 3-17-4, 20k souls.
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>>556935201
viscous is cancer. they nerf one cheese build and two more pop up in its place
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>>556935592
this pairs excellently with bunny hopping around
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WHY DOES CELESTE HAVE SMALL TITS
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>>556935201
tell us where the viscous touched you anon
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>>556935201
Sure, but it's more important that I'm having FUN
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Ranked is so fucked I dont even know if these arrows are lying to me or not
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>>556935920
More aerodynamic
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Celeste shows her hymen to audiences to prove she’s a unicorn
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good venator players are legitimately terrifying
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>>556935850
not every argument you have in your head needs to be shared with class, anon
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>>556935920
That's a good thing.
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After like 10 rounds of Street Brawl as Silver I still can't tell if she's too finnicky and needs some buffs or is just hard to get going
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>>556936051
>>556935990
Too small

She needs at least to be a cup bigge
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Silver giving you warewolf STD's
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>>556935236
post full or im raping you with 30 pianos and anvils
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>>556935920
Ever seen a female acrobat with fat mammaries?
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>only 50% winrate in phantom
is it over for me..?
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>>556936061
you get into ult
you press leap into a squishy
squishy dies, ult refreshes
repeat
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>>556935236
>It would be a scandal if Graves won
it would make sense, she is a cutie terrible attitude though
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if you aren't one of these ranks, shut the fuck up please. They are the equivalent of bronze, silver, gold, and diamond. Anything else literally is not a real rank. You are in shitter turboaids meme mmr, and your opinions do not matter.
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>>556936047
>pretending the thread didn't have a dozen back and forths about tattoos
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>>556936061
She needs buffs, anyone saying otherwise either hasn't played her and been run over by her or they're aping some eceleb.
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what can I do to avoid lash's ult?
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>>556935850
oh like they'll fuck you either, go pay your monthly OF bill, simp
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/ourgirl/
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>>556936125
>warewolf
what wares would silver be peddling?
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>>556936281
counterspell, curse, or warp stone to cover
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>>556935687
I think this is what is happening
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>>556936251
I'm oracle and main Holliday. Am I based ??
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>>556936287
>1950's
I mean for devil's advocate it's a pretty obvious word even family guy came up with it
but still
>1950's
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>>556930251
Yeah, she should've been a mare proper instead
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>>556936307
Used panties (It's her's)
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>>556936287
I hate how anachronistic this game became as soon as they added Billy
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>>556936251
you can remove oracle and phantom after they pushed a bunch of gigashitters up to oracle.
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>>556936481
and theres a 60-70s punk billygoat. its all very anachronistic
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>Try extremely hard to win as Wraith
>loss after loss after kiss
>roll Doorman from time as a low priority backup
>so far 3 for 3
I don't understand
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Half of the public builds are just "le epic meme xD buttplug XDDD" .
Where do I go for REAL builds?
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>>556935592
>>556935107
The tracking works in sort of a cone. It's hard to display accurately, because it changes considerably with Celestes position. On a shallow angle, going straight the track will be ultra long. Worth noting that it's essentially an "aim correction" on bounce, not "homing" as you can still dodge the projectile.
Bouncing off walls behind the hero seems to be the hardest, And also the dumbest. You are essentially increasing the range in which you are trying to hit them, by having the projectile go past them and then come back, like a boomerang.
I think the "Oh no, ricochet aim correction" fear is kinda overblown, For single target damage, you still wanna aim for headshots, in group fights, I mean yeah having a "free" ricochet from hero to hero is cool, but she's not a gun hero. She has 8 shots with not amazing rate of fire how much pressure can she really bring with a gun build?
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>>556936283
>uuuugh but you ALSO must a virgin loser
like clockwork
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>>556936582
wraith is one of the few honest hypercarries
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>>556936626
buy every single gun item
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>>556936212
>squishy dies, ult refreshes
Very inconsistent in a messy teamfight. I have been soft inted by faggot supports taking kills so many times inshallah.
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>>556936627
Understanding Celeste's weapon is so easy for Dota players because you just say "it's psi blades" and they immediately get it
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>>556936626
Hell
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Do you "main" anyone or one trick? Ive never understood the idea behind "maining" support or something. Why would you purposefully limit yourself to singular heroes/archetypes? At a very minimum you should try each character for a few games just so you know what theyre like to play as, fight as, fight against, etc.

I have characters I dislike and rarely play but Id never stop myself from ever playing them
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>>556936701
youve got an execute bro
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>>556935801
But she didn't
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>>556936626
Hero just came out and most players, even high ranking ones probably don't have more than 2-3 games on her.
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>>556936251
I play for fun
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>>556936718
Actually, yeah it is psi blades + 3D. But I hesitate to call it that, because unlike TA, I don't think Celeste is "just click on enemies" hero.
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>>556936701
Assists should give half the duration to you
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>>556936718
>"it's psi blades"
its not though
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>>556936718
don't you act like psi blades isn't bullshit sometimes
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>>556936661
tell me I'm wrong, you won't
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>>556936771
Looks so much better without tattoos
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>>556936768
I meant in general not just for her.
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>>556936867
I fucked girls with tattoos
...but not as beautiful as celeste... my wife...
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>>556936251
Bow before me! (I give advice on how to play in these threads all the time btw)
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>>556936718
dota players playing their second video game "getting a lot of dota vibes from this"
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>>556936423
>>556936627
The cone has to be cast from the bullet to work from other angles, no?
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>>556936976
Forced
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>>556936731
i "main" ivy but i still play a lot of heroes
it's just that i have like x5 times more games on ivy than my next most played hero
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>>556936841
I wouldn't go that far but they should give you something, even if its just a extra 1/5 or 1/3 duration.
She's just so useless man
>Terrible lane
>Terrible farming
>NEEDS key items to trigger her wolf form
>2 Stamina lmao
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>>556931751
Calm down Seven
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>>556936954
oh wow you had a couple one night stands with inked up sluts wow that must have been really hard to pull off bro I sure never could have done that and certainly never have no sir!! I'm a virgin!!
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>>556935856
one is a venator that went 1-9 and just spent all game being a morale terrorist in the mic and the other is a silver that was 1-3 because he tilted and abandoned lane after getting parried 2 minutes in
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>>556936176
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So what builds are good for Celeste?
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>>556936731
I've been playing Silver almost exclusively since she released, before that I mained Yamato but played her a lot less after they nerfed her.
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>>556937106
escalating exposure, radient regen, greater expansion ect
just build victor shit on her actually
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>>556933978
Thats true thobeit, I seen one guy claiming you need 59 billion souls but objectively her ult makes her stronger than everyone the moment you unlock it

She does get hard cucked by wall jumps tho
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>>556936251
Idk man, I play to have fun, not to make imaginary numbers go up.
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>>556936883
Oses builds for farming carries like 7, Geist, Warden, etc.
ABL, lystic or together builds for frontliners like Yamato, Shiv, Abrams, etc.
Saiah builds for supports like Kelvin.
This should cover most of the hero pool.
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Im actually a retard

How do I play Celeste
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>>556937291
she just came out, wait until the nonretards learn her.
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If trannies play paige mina silver and celeste
what do chasers play
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>>556936976
Lmao true
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>>556937236
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>>556937374
Pocket
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If you want human beings as teammates dont play street brawl
You are asking to be tortured by playing street brawl without a 4 stack
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>>556937435
I think that people that always want to be the winners and the absolute best, even in something as frivolous as an online game in a closed alpha, just have something to compensate for.
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>>556937204
I dont think thats the play as she will fall off by the time you get a victor build

Unfortunately I also dont think merc mag is the play because her mag is so small
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>>556936976
>retard posting his 2nd shitpost ever
>hmmm getting a lot of "getting a lot of boss baby vibes from this" vibes from this
shut the fuck up
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>waste the necromancer slot to add another gun character
What did Y*shi mean by this?
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>>556936996
Guy whose screenshot you painted over here:
Either visualization works.You can think of it either as a cone in front of an enemy hero, where if you hit inside that cone, the projectile will bounce towards the enemy, or you can visualize it like you did from the PoV of the initial bullet impact, visualizing that it would hit enemy heroes standing within that cone. It's essentially the same in reverse.
I chose my version (the cone from the enemy), because you have a thousand places within that cone where you can hit, to the the abrams, so drawing them from the projectile PoV is cluttering.

Plus the enemy cone makes clear that hitting anywhere within it, gets the bounce to the enemy, while your visualization has the impact point always on the pointy end, and doesn't make quite clear that you also could hit further forward. (although it logically follows).
It's just cleaner, In my opinion. But if it helps you "see" where to hit, yeah it's essentially correct.
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>>556937374
I play whatever they ask me to play like a good boy
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>>556937204
>>556937106
Almost all her skills are AOE so Expansion is a no-brainer. I wouldn't say to built Rad Regen because you already get spirit lifesteal on your 1 and her CDs are a little prohibitive for Rad Regen, feel like going K-Dash/Spirit Lifesteal would be better.
For oranges get K-Dash/Spirit Rend, you're using your gun a lot as Celeste so don't ignore it. Greens are the normal suite of situational stuff and maybe Spirit Lifesteal. Healbane seems good on her but I haven't tried it as of yet.
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>>556937607
Nercomancerfags are a very loud minority of spergs who will never be happy
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Which characters are the most in need of a redesign on their kit? All the old heroes are so boring comparatively, especially their guns.
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>>556937640
With rapid recharge and transcendent cooldown you can spam the shit out of her 3
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>>556937607
necromancerfags don't deserve shit, they always want to hide behind skeletons and don't play the game
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>>556937728
Mirage. SENDING BEETLES is the most boring ability in the game.
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>>556937662
>Nercomancerfags are a very loud minority of spergs who will never be happy
Always and forever.
The Necro from D2 is still the Platonic idea of what a Necromancer should be and it's ruined me for any other necro character
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This is a good game
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>>556937640
Her 3 has a cooldown of like 3 seconds
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>>556937291
>3 is good for lane harass and you're hard to catch out so lane should be easy
>1 also helps with farming jungle
>in fights, hang out over the battlefield hitting your 3 as many times as you can for the damage amp
>hit your ult to initiate
>enter team fight so you can use your 1 and shield burst. Continue hitting 3's off cooldown.
>Don't hang around if everything is on cooldown and the enemy line isn't broken. Dance away and pot shots from a distance to trigger 1's bonus damage
>If enemy is broken, chase with your team.
>you will never be victor so don't try to 1v6. Max 2 so you can ult in 1v1s
>your 1, silence, and damage amp scale the best late. I don't know about ult
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>>556937761
That's fair, and you should get Rapid Recharge anyways because her 3 is an insane zoning tool come the lategame. Maybe I'll try Rad Regen/a more tanky build and just spam the fuck out of my abilities while being an unkillible asshole.
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>>556937075
Correct, I have pulled it off and anyone seething about tattoos have not
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Where were you when our chudette QUEEN nuked troonies?
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>>556934667
yeah jeet brool sucks ass but like the regular moba mode is such a coin flip too. look at this.
>get shit enough team mates that walking ANYWHERE near a tower results in 4 people ganking you
>end the game with no objective damage
like it's such a massive difference in stats between teams that win and teams that don't. matchmaking is just particularly awful lately and you can tell in the first 5 minutes who's going to win.
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>>556937728
Vyper. She is to basic, just shoot gun and slide around. Give her like a tongue grapple, you latch onto someone and if you manage to run one loop around them they get tied up and stunned. Or if they rotate too much or something.
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>>556938093
The deepest cut by Sweet Baby Inc.
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>>556937728
Mirage has 2 abilities, he needs a complete do-over.
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>another lane hitler character
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Where is my representation? I want to play someone who looks like me.
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>>556938251
Abrams is right there??
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What's Silver's strength?
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>>556938251
What do you look like, anon?
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>>556937291

You play her exactly like you play Lash. The two occupy really similar niches.
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>>556938093
Devs confirmed it was a mistake and apologized. It will be corrected in a future update. Sorry, chud.
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>>556938251
>tfw blonde and blue-eyed
A character with my features is becoming more and more rare in western games, nearly extinct
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>>556938251
Viscous is retarded and gross too wym?
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>>556938251
Are you fucking brown?

The cast is filled with white people.
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>>556938373
>Even the devs forgot his pronouns
Funny
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>>556938251
Bro Krill is right there
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>>556938139
Vyper's ult is the odd one out for me. Her daggers lowering bullet resist makes sense for an M1 character, sliding is fun and makes her mobile in fights, and her poison is an execute once you shoot them enough.
Maybe swap her bola with her poison, and make her bola just a slow/root instead of the stun? Something like if you hit the bola it slows for X seconds, but if you shoot them enough then they're rooted/stunned instead, to reward her m1 gameplay?
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>>556938232
not even remotely close to the cancer that Rem and graves bring. I laned against them at the same time once and I felt like I was about to get a brain aneurysm.
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>>556938327
>the strongman showman plays like the circus showwoman

KINOOOOOO
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>>556937640
Going heavy into spirit lifesteal is asking to get antihealed, also spirit rend is bad(not for her, its bad in general)
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does counterspelling celeste ult make it stop bouncing
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>>556938519
>another
what do you think that word means you fucking RETARD
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>>556938519
>>556938232
Mina mogs all
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Uhhhh deadlock needs representation bros:
>china town rep
>italian from staten island
>an actual brown spic
>voodoo nigga
>some westcoast dude
>blonde blue eyed russian
>actual african american musician and not nigfernus
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>>556936251
>im good at the game because I spam busted op characters and avoid all teammates fights until I have 40k souls
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>>556938657
the only counter is to break los with whoever has it
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>"I'll crush em!'
>Crushes em
Fascinating.
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Why aren't the nazis at Valve adding wheelchaired representation?
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>>556938723
too sovlfvl for modren deadcock
you will get an onlyfans girl in a witch hat next
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>>556938676
By that, I mean, she is not that bad, if that wasn't apparent enough. It's like facing a bebop and becomes predictable when she intends to spam you with nukes. one extra stam should make it good enough.

she kind of can soft counter lash with her barrier though which is unfortunate
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>>556938891
Boho........
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>>556938891
Is she trying to find where her neighbour's cat went
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>>556938883
A 0 stamina cannot jump character for Dota refugees who cannot do movement to save their life?
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Even the artists are bullying the useless wolf...
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>>556938742
yep. thats how the game works. its a moba and its about macro and economy. why the fuck are you team fighting over nothing? if you want to stack in one lane for the entire game literally go play overwatch.

i dont even see people try to do any lane management whatsoever below phantom. people just brawl and shoot the wave nonstop.
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>>556937374
abrams and haze
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Post something nice about your last teammates.
pro tip: you can't
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>>556938891
>Having a bunch of real life stereotypes in my fantasy setting is "soulful"
How about novel fantasy characters instead?
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>past 12 heroes
>all white and white adjacent
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Deadlock is an LGBT game.
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>>556939043
>this alpha game is perfectly balanced dude. stop complaining and afk farm for 30 minutes!
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>>556939107
>novel fantasy
Isn't that what Paige is into?
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Are there characters from other media who fit the Deadlock aesthetic and themes? Shit like Alucard or Hellboy
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>>556939105
Sorry, I only full stack with my childhood friends that I always play together with, so I can say a lot of nice things about them actually.
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>>556939107
>fantasy
you know new york is a real place, right?
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>>556938883
Your Silver bwo?
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the asian woman of valve originality
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>>556939175
i hate to be the one to tell you this but it will never be perfectly balanced so who cares. DotA has existed for over 20 years as the exact same game and it still needs constant balacing.
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>>556939483
>it will never be perfectly balanced dude. the devs should let the game stagnante into players hiding away risk free and afk farm
>yes im smart because I grind elo on over tune heroes all day in an unbalanced alpha!
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>>556939379
WE LOVE MINA HERE
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>>556939564
>shoving walkers and taking their jungle
>hiding away risk free
ur just bad at mobas man
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>>556939617
Is she vietnamese or Korean?
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>>556938093
the unicorn sees who he really is
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>>556939710
Probably Korean, there’s even a Koreatown in NYC
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>>556939617
You guys might think I'm weird for saying this but I want to have sex with Mina.
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>>556939768
>Mina
>not Paige
Nah not weird at all, stick with the asian vampire.
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>>556939681
>you're bad dude. you should be afk farming and ratting with the over tuned slop heroes like me. >.<
>who cares if the optimal play is to play passive all game bro like dood!
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why is celeste a unicorn
the character works fine without this gimmick
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does hitting Celeste's ball on an ivy carrying someone just blender them both?
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Did he really hate her that much he had to fake his own death?
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>>556939034
>character-wise, she needs help to get herself out of her self-destructive place in life
>gameplay-wise, she needs some help to get out of being 42% winrate garbage hero
Ludo, and kino
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Is aim required for this game because im omega shit at aiming, though funnily enough the hero i did best with as vindicta
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>>556938453
Yeah, she can still stay the same slide & gun mechanic just more rewarding and with extra combo interactions. The bola crit point is a good idea.
Needs something similar for the slide, to make it stand out and be more offensive. Like create a poison trail path behind her on surfaces, with increased potency if you go fast, so you can strategically cut off paths and make it harder to chase her. Or go all in and slide under everyone for max dmg. If you go over your own trail you gain more speed.
Guess I'm reinventing splatoon lol
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>>556939034
Oh so it wasnt me being dogshit, shes bad?
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>>556939928
>needs help from teammates to function
>needs help from devs to not be shit
>needs help from her self-destructive habits
Whoever made Silver has a misery porn fetish
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>>556939941
Some aiming will always be necessary, especially in laning (unless you're playing gr*ves)
But you can get away without being good at aiming if you're good at building and macro (and you can rely on at least one teammate being a good aim to go a gun build so you're not all 6 building spirit)
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How to reach Eternus:
>Play passive hyper carry farm monkies
or
>Play brooltard monkey
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>>556937607
It's even worse: we had a working necromancer for the first few days until they essentially removed her 1 from the game. The reason everyone now builds gun is because they hyper-nerfed her only spirit damage ability, so it's all that's left.
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Mina? Sex.
Celeste? Sex.
Silver? Marriage.
Paige? Rape.
Geist? Rape.
Haze? Marriage.
Paradox? Sex.
Mcginnis? Rape.
Savannah? Rape.
Vindicta? Rape.
Wraith? Rape.
Ivy? Marriage.
Graves? Rape.
Holliday? Marriage.
Vyper? Sex.
Yamato? Sex.
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>>556940129
brool impacts mmr? that's retarded
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>>556940129
>pvp? In the pvp game?
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>>556940148
just be gay if you wanna marry women who look like men
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>>556940270
brool?
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>>556940315
Anon you might be retarded
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How would Mina react to being forced into becoming your personal cocksleeve for all of eternity?
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>>556938883
>>556939012
>movement speed ramps up as you stay in motion
>tank controls and turn radius becomes wider as you speed up but you can drift with the slide button
>hit ramps with enough speed and you go flying
>hit enemies with enough speed and you ram them like doorman cart
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>>556940298
>unkillable gigga nigga you have to invest half your countries economic output to barely kill?
>reasonable!!!
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How is Celeste raping everyone? The few matches I've played since she's been in she's always has the most kills and assists while legitimately only having zero or one deaths. I'm somehow usually on the other side of the map.
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>>556940148
>Savannah
are you thrusting your dick into the assistant hologram, or are you waiting for Sinclair to go 0/1/0 and then rubbing your dick against their mannequin body with no holes anywhere on it?
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As nice as the character loading screens are its a bit annoying you dont really get much time to swap lanes unless you burn a pause. It was nice having the old rooftop staredown.
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>>556939928
meanwhile the stacey Vyper
>singlehandedly wins lane with her bullshit venom being an execute on a 20 second cooldown
>instant stun on short cooldown
>most base stamina in the game if you include her slide upgrade
>single highest DPS in the game
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>>556940376
She can probably rip regular people in half.
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>>556940417
You can hit ESC during the patron intro to look at the team comps at least.
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>>556940148
>Silver
Enjoy your child being born with fetal alcohol syndrome
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>>556940062
Stats don't lie
She's difficult to play (strike one) and easily countered even when played well (strike two)
She's not unusably bad and she can definitely still pop off if nobody bothers to counter her, but she's bad
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>>556938373
>characters only use they/them
>even if they have no idea who he is or what his pronouns would possibly be
Genius
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Silver is for knotting the other girls
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I know we were joking last year how Mina's success will completely warp the game but I can't believe it actually happened lmao.
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I knew celeste would be the most fun but nobody listened
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>>556940832
This post will age like milk
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>>556940832
>most OP = most fun
Okay, I guess?
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>>556940832
she's going to have her movement bonuses repeatedly nerfed like shiv's M2 was
it's simply too good
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>>556940832
Apollo
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Troonshit aside Pocket doesn't seem to be fun to hang out with probably smells like frogs and sewage too
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>>556940771
paige mina doorman killed this games aesthetic
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>playing brawl, chilling, listening to music but playing fine
>we're getting stomped because our 0/3 billy keeps 2v1ing miles from where we're fighting their team
>"heloo team!!!"
>ask which item to get between two option
>billy: "you get better at game which click for that"
Why do people take this casual mode so seriously as to rage down mic about it
>start mimicking his slav accent to piss him off
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how aids would it be if this game had mana like other mobas?
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>try to play kelvin
>have zero to none midgame agency even if you won lane
>try to play abrams
>win lane, curbstomp the entire enemy team
What is the purpose of this icy fag outside of being a useless domebot?
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sometimes I'm Archon, sometimes I'm at ritualist, the result is a 2v2 with 4 clueless mfs
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>>556941076
Mana gay and outdated
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>Get on mic
>"incoming green"
>see more
>"lots coming green!"
>go back a little bit so I don't feed into the deathball.
>my team actually rotates and demolishes them
Oh wow, that felt really good.
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>>556941119
rescue beam bot
he was good at everything a couple of patches ago so they kneecapped everything he had
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>>556941119
his dome is so good he's not allowed to be good anymore
used to be beam would rape teams
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>>556941182
I member when it didn't freeze towers midboss or patrons so you could bubble cuck enemy teams so hard
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>>556941000
4u
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>>556941167
>rescue beam bot
but we have 2 dedicated supports for that, why would i play a support tank with no hard CC nor actual tanking ability
if you want enemy isolation then why not just play graves or mcG at that point?

>>556941182
abysmal
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>40 min match
>enemy victor came online
>0 curse on my retarded team
>3 curses on the enemies aiming only at me because I gap my team by 15k souls
how do you even win any game with retards on the team?
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>>556941130
I agree, as long as you design abilities with CDs in mind, you shouldn't need a mana system.
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>>556938285
Being hot and pretty and making people want to fix her
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>>556941119
>play brooltard
>win
Wow!!
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>>556941141
people are shockingly responsive to callouts when its just information and not bause. a tinge of panic also helps a lot.
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>>556941483
that's great and all, but why kelvin is so fucking dogshit?
i'm statgapping myself because i don't scale beyond doming my carry and a single enemy
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>>556941507
I mean sometimes man. You should be trying to stay informative and helpful with call outs always of course but it gets frustrating. A lot of people don't react to things.
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>>556941565
>>that's great and all, but why kelvin is so fucking dogshit?
Is he a brooltard? No.
Is he a passive afk farming hyper carry? No.
So he is shit.
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How do I find a girl that looks, act, talks and smells like Celeste?
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>>556940365
you might be homosexual
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>>556941628
so i should just play abrams if i want to tank...?
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>>556941076
I don't know how league is these days, but when I played League, mana was basically a meme. On most champs, you really had to try HARD to go out of mana.
In DotA mana is relevant, because early game abilities tend to be strong, to really fucking strong. Tiny can basically destroy a hero easily if he catches them right. But his mana prohibitive. You can't just "go for it and hope for the best".
So essentially when you ask "would mana be good or aids?" you ask: "Should we reduce early game ability spam?".
You can tell what it would be like with Mana with Graves and her 1. Early game you plain do not have enough charges to press 1 on cooldown, since she actually gets charges not from cooldown time but from shit dying around her. If you spam 1, then you won't have a jar to throw when an enemy is low.
I just played Celeste and her 3 is annoying, but balanced by having a hefty 30 second cooldown. So there's no "spamming".
So the question of: "Mana Y/N?" is: Are there any early game abilities that you feel are spammed too often, and are too impactful?
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So the leakcuck is saying theres still another relativrly big follow up update after Apollo pretty soon
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>>556941660
go to your local left-wing protest and there will be hundreds of them
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>>556941398
This is my early-mid build on Ivy. Curse is never a bad item.
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>>556941708
Yes. Abrams is a brooltard that doesnt die.
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>>556941716
uhuh
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>>556938723
I really want a no nonsense KGB agent hero. SU does exist at this point.
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>>556936731
>Do you "main" anyone or one trick? Ive never understood the idea behind "maining" support or something.
I main support because it's fun. I love both offensive and defensive supporting. Why? Because I love winning, but I don't like having all the pressure of being the guy carrying. Also, I love the feeling of knowing I was instrumental to winning a fight and knowing that the enemy team is very upset at me for stunning the shit out of them and healing my team.
>At a very minimum you should try each character for a few games just so you know what theyre like to play as, fight as, fight against, etc.
I don't think so. By playing with/against them, I can generally get a reasonable enough sense of whether I'd like to play them or not
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>>556941775
i want kelvin buffs
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>>556941716
>there are updates planned after updates
wow. groundbreaking
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>>556941748
Is the damage malus just weapon damage or all outgoing damage?
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Is Hunter Aura a meme on Silver? It feels like you never get to actually isolate anyone anyways because everyone plays so afraid of her
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>>556941716
>3 months later
just another week away bros trust me
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I came in a bit late. I kinda don't wanna ruin my very small celeste wall by voting for Apollo. Should I keep it pure?
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>>556938657
Nah it just prevents the damage. Nothing stops the bounce, even ethereal shift
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>>556941845
if you're not eternus then stfu faggot. just play the overpowered brooltard characters or the afk hyper carries also balancing doesnt work!!!! me smart
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>>556941896
you isolate them on human form and transform quicker
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>>556941896
Yes.
Buy something that does damage instead
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I just learned that Samoa Joe is the VA of Abrams
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>>556941896
It's still a decent shred item that contributes to her gun spending
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>>556941942
Can you dispell it if you are holding it?
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>>556941943
>check how pros play kelvin
>domebot
Yeah sure, picking a character for 1 button is great design.
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>>556941992
Samoa Joe is my king.
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The best indicator of wether a hero is OP or not is not his winrate or his ban rate in """""pro""""" matches, it's how often you have him in your game.
Shiv and Rem disappeared from my games, but i can't remember the last game i had without Mina/Bebop/Abrams
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>>556941863
Leakfags are just the gamer versions of psychics, there's no shortage or retards that will believe their vague generalizations
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>>556931751
New Jersey for sure.
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>>556942117
>always get kelvin if im playing him
i'm cooked
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>>556941869
Just tested it for you to be sure. It does reduce all damage and it's most appropriate on support builds.
>Level 35
>Cooldown + Range (6400)
>Curse (6400)
>No points in Kudzu
>391 vs 360 with Curse
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>>556936731
There's nothing wrong with trying each hero. I actually used to play a DotA mode that only gave you the choice of picking between 1 strength, 1 agility or 1 int hero, and you had to pick one of them. The mode forced both off-meta team compositions, as well as pushing you out of your comfort zone by playing heroes you normally wouldn't pick. For instance: I normally would never play Anti Mage, or Timbersaw, or Clinkz but being forced to pick them is interesting, and it helps you understand playing against them better.
But then it's still okay to have your main after that. Or more realistically: a roaster of 5 or so heroes that you excell at. For me those were Beastmaster, Bristleback, Death Prophet, Leshrac, and Lone Druid.
Now in Deadlock I go Graves > Celeste > Geist > Rem = Victor = Mina
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>>556942364
How old is Silver? 40's?
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>>556941992
>>556942097
I always knew abrams was asian coded
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>>556940148
>marrying Holliday
Enjoy getting killed by the Troob
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>>556942364
For me, its Change by Deftones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPpDyIJdasg
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>>556942471
Early 30s at worst, likely not even that.
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>>556942117
It's definitely one indicator but Shiv is honestly just not super interesting to a layman.
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>>556942117
>want to play abrams
>he gets banned and I get mo
>want to play mo
>he gets banned and I get abrams
this ban system is getting on my nerves
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It’s fascinating to me that sometimes Vinny you will tickle an enemy and other times it will atomize them at 60% health
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deadlock has filled the titanfall 3 shaped hole in my heart
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>>556942734
*Vinny ult
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>>556942073
dude like fucking bro like you're not even eternus dude how can you say kelvin is bad if you're not playing at an eternus level???
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>>556942734
headshot
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>>556942860
>>556942734
I feel like her bonus damage gets applied after everything is said and done so you hit the 200 damage beam + tankbuster and then you get the bonus damage. I don't know how I'd prove it though.
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>>556942364
You guys are both wrong, silvers song is Tear You Apart by She Wants Revenge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixw_bLVUL34
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>>556942865
Boss baby post
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>>556940405
Completely broken hero
Has everything
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Only shame of this update is that all the girls have small tits
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>>556943096
Yeah, they should be flat instead.
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>>556943096
We have like 30 years of big booba vidya females. Let us have some flats.
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>>556934635
you don't need to be a chef to know mint icecream and an onion salad don't mix together, chief
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>>556940996
If Mo&Krill vouch for him, he must be cool.
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>>556943096
This game is made by and for low test males.
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>>556940148
>holiday
>marriage
lol!
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>>556941896
Its a meme item on everyone imo. Idk how its stats are good 2bh
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>>556943179
Bro only Geist and Mcginnis(fatso) have big tits in this game
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seven bros... its over...
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I'm excited for the old heroes to get the same visual love that the new ones got
Also give Silver unique animations you bums
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>>556943437
Gay lamp lost
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>>556943437
No need to constantly remind everyone here you love sucking dick in real life
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How does movement slow addition work? Or does only the biggest one apply?
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Getting drunk together with Silver and passing out together in each others arms while Daughtry plays in the background
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>>556943430
When I said we already had 30 years of big tits, did you think I was talking about 30 years of deadlock?
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you guys set the crouch button to toggle to crouch to activate slides right? Any point to keeping it on hold to crouch?
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>>556943473
>Also give Silver unique animations you bums
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>>556942117
Pro matches are not even filtering enough. My only consideration is the TOP player for each hero. The top mina has good winrate, therefore she is good. You have to compare is relatively tho as the top player in any hero will look good at first glance(+55% winrate) but is actually low compared to others(some pushing +70%)
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>>556938093
Celeste does cartwheels to mimic the black sun
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Ordering the garlic aoli and truffle fries at Kelvin and Seven’s overpriced burger joint
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>>556943643
giwtwm
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>>556943721
>Any point to keeping it on hold to crouch?
You need to hold it to auto slide after mantles, if you get the habit of just pressing it you crouch after mantling.
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does anyone actually prefer the artstyle the game is heading towards over what the old one implied (mignolaesque, actual noir occult shit)?
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why is there no good graves build yet? im checking deathy tier list and all the builds are massively downvoted
how do i play this nigga? i know refresher and duration are core
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>>556944027
You got baited, they arent core
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Hi, I started playing recently and really like Drifter
However only street brawl caters to me because im too retarded for the normal mode, is it common for Drifter to feel completely useless there or im just bad? compared to Victor and Kelvin it feels like I can't do much
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>>556943767
Ivy basically isn't allowed do damage in lane. Just because a few loyal autists manage to make her 55% winrate doesn't mean she doesn't suffer from poor balance. Idk why the reduced kudzu from 60 to 40 dps. I don't know why they raped T3 AP damage. I don't know why they ruined the scaling. I don't know why they reduced stun duration from 1.5s to 1.25s to stop her being able to melee after a stun. I don't know why they repeatedly nerfed her ult and even allow you to debuff remove the silence even though it's part of an ultimate. Just because some guys make a B tier work out doesn't mean it isn't still a B tier. Balancing around the absolute top performer is non sense.
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ALCHEMICAL FLASK
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>>556943767
This is exactly how starcraft 2 died
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>>556944150
Yeah his whole thing is stalking and picking people offf, kinda hard to do in a game mode about constantly team fighting
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does anyone ever use the ctrl ctrl dash in air?
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>>556944150
he's good at isolated fights
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Brehs im falling in love with Celeste...
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>>556944174
ivy isn't even good for top performers though, she's rarely picked in tournaments and when she is picked she always underperforms
but now watch people say this doesn;t matters and only WR% matters when they will also argue silver is secret broken because a bunch of comptards say she is even though she has dogshit WR and mediocre tournament results
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>>556943767
This is pure retardation
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Any fucking advice on mapping? I have a mouse with two side keys but I swear this retarded game has way too many controls.
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>>556942117
This is mostly accurate, but not entirely. Sometimes pros miss that something about a lesser played hero is actually OP. You see it sometimes in DotA tournaments. Players suddenly bust out a lesser picked/banned hero and "whoop, there's an absolutely broken interaction here".
Prime Example: Navi fountain hooks at the international: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6H-HEpnlk8
Now neither Pudge nor Chen were considered "weak", but they were not "omg, must ban or they will rape us". But turns out: Navi knew something other pros were not aware of, and they turned a near guranteed loss into a win.
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>>556944027
i dont share my builds but they get copied anyways

t.seeker meta builder
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>>556944478
put dash and slide on the 2 side mouse buttons
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>>556944478
You should just get used to ZXCV they're convenient enough. 1234 is fine for abilities too. I would consider putting melee on front thumb and parry on back thumb though. Maybe have your mic key caps lock.
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>>556944350
you can use it to quickly reach the ground when someone shoves a knockdown on you. it's also pretty handy on the climbing poles that lead to the midboss pit. it's pretty niche though.
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>>556944014
I think the old style would have gotten repetitive quickly, other than Ivy and the robots I don't think any of the early characters are particularly memorable
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>>556944413
Ok but how about the TOP silver?
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>>556944694
nigga she is less than a month old there's no "top silver" player yet
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>>556944014
I like the old designs but the new art style
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The best indicator of if a character is strong is winrate
Do not balance exclusively for casuals and the top 0.1%
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>>556944694
Go to the bathroom stalls, third one, gloryhole on the left.
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I’m topping Silver
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>>556944854
facts.
Balance for casuals - Game is boring
Balance for top 0.1% - Game is unplayable for everyone else
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If Geist got added in today she'd have no gun and just shoot from her green hand. If Seven got added today he'd shoot lightning bolts instead of using a fitting prison guard rifle

Deadlock's original setting was more about the real world mixed with magic, so magic existed but people still used guns and dressed like we do. No it's more magic as the end all as 4/6 new heroes don't even use a gun at all. The original roster would make a comment about Talon using a bow because everyone else had a regular firearm.
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you niggas say silver is shit but she just destroyed my entire team in street brawl
20k damage in 5 minutes 0-3 stomp while my team was 3k-5k each
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>>556942547
god I want to give her puppies
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>>556943767
I think talking about winrate percentages should be banable cause literally nobody on this board can get it right
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Enhanced Mystic Reach is my favorite item.
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Quit nagging
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>>556944150
Standard deadlock is legit where he shines the most
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>>556945002
Your team is supposed to build items to rape her, not just damage stacking
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Game would be better as a FPS
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>>556944459
Its objectively correct, they are playing at peak, are you gonna buff them to 100% winrates like marvel does?
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>>556944854
>>556944979
You should basically be balancing around the top 10%. It's fair enough to say the people are competent at the game generally and if a hero is weak amongst that then they need some helping.
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>>556944997
I kind of agree
We need more gun users again
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>>556944854
Both casuals and pros have winrates tho
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>>556944150
He's all about getting isolated kills in the first 15-20 minutes of a standard match, to build up his passive, before becoming a dps monster for later team fights. The first thing never happens in Street Brawl.
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>>556944997
Real and true

Geist might keep the gun though but Seven definitely just uses lightning powers
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There's sufficient arguments to buff Silver and her shitty winrate backs it up.
Give her 3 stamina, more fire rate, maybe 1 more ammo and tweak her numbers a bit and then see what happens, it's clear that how she is now is not acceptable.
They wasted no time nerfing her without giving the playerbase a chance to learn her and now they drag their feet in buffing her.

Even if Silver is being played in a an organized Eternus team vs another, she's still playing against other Eternus players who can kite/cc her until she loses her ult, using best case scenarios holds no water because that applies that her enemies are on the same skill level.
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>>556945067
I majored in stats brainleto but pls pretend you know shit because you know what sample size means
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>>556945212
I somewhat agree with this but at the same time if some character is actually unplayable ass or unbearable cancer at low ranks that is also a problem that should be looked at
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>>556929526
>get matched with team fighting retards who ignore objectives
>on alchemist six
Shouldn't people be a bit more aware of the macro on that rank? Also is the matchmaking already sabermetrics-adjusted to make your win-loss ratio exactly one (1)?
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How do I ping "They're in mid" versus "Let's go mid"? Or is it character specific because some characters just don't have the voiceline yet?
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>>556944997
I’m fine with most of the non gun users this patch but Apollo would’ve been cooler dual wielding a rapier and revolver
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>>556945415
desu I'd settle for just a little bit more leniency on her gun. Make the spread earlier so that it behaves more like a standard shotgun.
I think buffing her stamina would be a bad decision, of all the things you could do to her to make her completely busted again 3 stamina is the most dangerous
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my game crashes literally every single time I boot it up its just a matter of when. they should have taken another month with this update every match I get someone in the lobby crashes
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>>556945415
Silver getting instaloss'd in her wolf form
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>>556945493
Isn't batrider unplayable at low elo? Its just a tradeoff you have to make so the game doesnt suck even harder. There is no "perfect"
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>>556945579
Double click
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>>556945685
...works on my machine
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>>556945539
It's fucking infuriating how people seem to ignore the urn in almost every game I play, even when the wave state would make it free as fuck
And when I try to go for it solo the enemy team suddenly grows a brain and blocks the point
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Oh fuck off you faggot the OG cast has too many similar guns

Like why does Lash, Seven, and Paraxox all have the same generic burstfire
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>>556945695
You can play anything at low elo, even chen, simply by pushing
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>>556945539
No.
T.Phantom and people still broooooowl and chase without the wave and then even if they win the fight we get nothing from it
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A big gaming journo site made a video about Deadlock and everyone in the comments said the game would flop and will be Concord 3. Why is everyone making fun of us, Deadlocksisters?
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>I play Silver
>Die in seconds
>Silver on the enemy team
>Literally unkillable
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>>556945904
Sneed
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>>556945819
Didn't you hear?
New bad
Seven shooting lighting bolts would be so fucking cool
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>>556945861

You can play silver by pushing too i dont see your point

The hero sucks for noobs
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So is Silver the new Mina
>waifufaggotry inflates play rate
>winrate in the dumps
>early days is just "lmao she's an instant loss dogshit garbage hero only waifutroons play this shit"
you're now here
>a few weeks pass and they're the most broken and annoying hero in existence for everyone
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>>556945914
>I play Victor
>enemy team buys 4-6 curses
>enemy plays Victor
>my team buys 1 curse (me)
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>>556945904
Didnt see any game journos saying 2XKO sould flop. Gamers and media in general dont actually know what they want.
Good Game Devs do
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>>556944997
Put it in the forums.
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>>556945904
gaming content is all about hating video games now
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>>556946070
So her entire kit will get buffed like Mina was?
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>>556946070
Lol, lmao
I play rem and she has the most miserable laning experience
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>>556945904
What’s with cat posters being so reprehensible? Used to be the cool cats of the web and now they’re being used like frogposting
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>>556946121
Mina's biggest buff was the bat buff and even after that it was a week of crying about how bad and useless she was
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>>556946070
You have to wonder if people like this actually play the game
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>>556946070
Yeah except Mina is still best girl.
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>>556943767
>>556942117
I think people also make the mistake of thinking: "This hero has a great winrate / banrate with pros, so I'm gonna play this hero and pwn", when in reality: You ain't a fucking pro. You can play Yamato, and a pro player is still gonna rape you with Vindicta. That's just how it is.
In general for anyone who is not literally being paid to be good at the game: Pick what hero you have the most fun with, with what kit you enjoy the most.
I promise you this anon: If you enjoy McGinnis turret playstyle, more than Minas hit and run playstyle, then you are going to perform MUCH better with McGinnis than you are going to be with Mina, despite mina on paper being the superior pick.
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>>556946085
2xko flopping was the most obvious foregone conclusion I've ever seen in gaming
Riot was probably expecting numbers above Street Fighter and Tekken while somehow getting tricket into making a tag fighter, the most niche subgenre in an already niche genre
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>>556945539
>>556945874
Here's the real doom pill for you bros. I'm ascendant 6 and some of my worst team mates are low eternus. They don't communicate anything, they don't listen to anything, they're aware they need to jungle/box to optimise but refuse to do some basic pushing. They're also all risk adverse pussies who won't even push as a wraith even when you tell them you have rescue beam.
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Am I supposed to full auto as Silver or tap fire?
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>>556941660
>>556941736
or onlyfans and you can even pay 5 dollars a month to see their A cups and man ass
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>>556946135
I've started to adjust my playing in lane as silver and Drifter to just not caring about interacting with the enemy at all.
Healing right check, melee heal check, regen bandaid check.
Later, I'm just here for farm to get to ulti and power spike items asap dont care about lane kills or harass in slightest
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what does 4.8k gun mean?
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>>556946135
>I play rem and she has the most miserable laning experience
You should try laning as Ivy. You can forget about winning trades ever.
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what do you guys bind your abilities to? 1234 is unusable. im messing around with binds but due to many of my usual keys being taken up by deadlock things like dash, im a little fazed
>melee is mouse 4
>parry is mouse 5
>1 on E
>2 on alt
>3 on F
>4 on Q
>items on TGVC
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>>556944997
i kinda would prefer seven just using magic honestly, the rifle seems kinda tacked on. what prision is using full on automatic rifles for their guards?
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>>556946381
4.8k is how much money you invested, most commonly will be one t2 and one t3 or three t2. As you invest you get stats with the biggest jump at 4.8k
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>>556946432
Most high security ones
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>>556945904
Was it normal people or was it right wingers?
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>>556946381
buying a tier 2 and a tier 3 gun item for the 4800 souls investment bonus to make your gun deal competitive damage
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>>556946426
1234
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Is there a souls per minute metric I should be trying to achieve? I dunno how to farm good, I can't seem to clear wave then go do jungle or boxes before the next one comes back
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>>556944014
>>556944997
I genuinely don't fucking understand these points about old DL when the game was simply some Neon Prime rejects (which were Battleborn tier designs) with some underbaked texture changes. Whatever "noir" feeling you got was from the liminal default cubes used for the buildings.
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>>556946338
Why would I play ivy when I said rem obliterates silver in lane
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>>556946426
1234
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>>556946426
1,E,3,4, just like I used to on Smite.
I still need to figure out if I can change the skill upgrade shortcut to F1, F2, F3, F4
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>>556929697
Just let me press the ult again to end it early so I can start the cooldown again if it pops at a bad time. And make it so it refreshes the cooldown of all the abilities when I do so that I can choose to bite + 2x slamfire someone into an escape
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they really need to make the aram mode actually random. sick of seeing mcginness every single game
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>>556946567
You should be aiming for at least 1k per min, you can get up to 2k per min but its less consistent. 1k/m means at least you arent throwing
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>>556945904
Drop the link. Which journo site?
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>>556946613
To
>>556946387
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>dude the top 4 ranks are like bronze silver gold diamond
in what competitive game do you think you could put a team of oracle deadlock players vs a team of bronze players and have it be an even match?
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>>556946432
Wrong. It really completes his look. He busted out of basically Alcatraz and those are the types of rifles the guards would've carried. He looks like a mechanical monster but the burned prison outfit, shackles, and clearly stolen prison rifle tell a whole story and combine beautifully with the magic aspect of being fused with an electric chair
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>>556946381
that you spend 4,8k souls in yellow (=gun) items so youll get a considerable boost of base gun damage (more souls spent in that category results in more damage)
even if you buy something yellow that doesnt boost damage in itself (like kinetic dash) it still ends up boosting the gun base damage itself
the 4,8k thing is just an arbitrary threshold that gives you much more than the sum of its parts in base gun damage
same for spirit (more dam) and vitality (more hp)
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>>556946426
I personally have my abilities on QEF4
Melee on R and parry on 1, default item binds. Reload on mouse scroll up, specific bind any ability I need instantly (like bomb or open door) on scroll down.
It's schizophrenic but I have a basic two button, mouse so I got used to it.
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>>556946426
1234
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>>556946381
Each category of item has investment tiers where spending a certain amount of souls into that category unlocks gun damage, spirit power and health respectively. 4800 is the largest spike and is considered an efficiency thing. Even if you opt to go support/spirit carry, spending a casual 4800 on two items just to get a chunk of gun damage is considered valuable so you can actually contribute some meaningful amount of damage when using your gun. It's not uncommon to see people build 4800 spikes in all three categories and then specialise somewhere.

For instance here's my last Dynamo game. See the way my initial build is just securing 4800 across the board and then I'm focusing heavily around spirit items.
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>>556930279
It's more like cs:source bhopping, not quake bhopping
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>>556929526
Nice ass
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I am just suppose to splitpush and jungle on Mirage? I have most souls but do no dmg.
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>>556946426
>parry
E
>item1
TAB
>item2
F
>Altcast
M4
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>>556945482
Oh and also my dick is 8 feet long and I regularly have sex with the president
In case that matters
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>>556946426
Qwatfgyzxcvb1234 shift for self cast
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slow hex into cage of death is so fucking busted
Warden please rape me
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>Tranny Silver and Mina players flirting in comms
I'm so sick of the normie influx in this game
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>>556946604
that's just being disingenuous, the only two real outliers were grey talon and yamato, and talon himself really only needed to have his mechanical bits swapped out like shiv did. If you truly can't see why people would get a noir feel from a game set in the 30's, with the most prominent characters featured being a detective hellboy copy, a femme fatale, and haze's old loading screen i don't know what to tell you. Why do you think people mentioned mignola so much before? most characters having their eyes hidden might've just been a coincidence from their unfinished models but it created obvious parallels here.
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i hate the mid boss
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Silver's human form is weak but fun, while her wolf form is strong but boring.
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>>556947258
>troons
>normie
lol
lmao
roflmao, even
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>>556946604
this, but this is just the new wave of shitposters that don't know what "noir" or "art deco" even means
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>>556947158
He is a good counter to silver too especially if you seen her burn 1 dash or her kick
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>>556945695
No. You can make massive stacks of neutrals and kill them alone.
He legit has a right click build too
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>muh good old day
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>>556945212
>You should basically be balancing around the top 10%.
Truth nuke
I also wish helldivers2 wasn't sissy mode
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>>556940270
it affects hero mmr, it does not affect actual mmr
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>>556943430
Paige has D cups
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>>556947443
it's because the wolf form is aoe slop because the devs have no fucking clue what makes melee fun
if you just have her as he currently is she's just as engaging to play as reinhardt without a pin. her m1 is effectively a constant dps like midboss' beam rather than anything actually substantial regardless of the ramp up mechanic. they should've had it so it's a combo of sorts with 3 hits like venom in rivals if they wanted to go for the mauling feel, you REALLY need that OOMPH on the last hit of her combo for it to feel good, otherwise like I say, it's just you tickling the enemy until you're not. then you rely on her abilities for the kit to feel good but only 2 out of the 3 do and one of those is often buggy as shit (the jump)
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>>556947275
>most proof is laughable shit like "eyes covered" and haze's loading screen
what a retard
>the only exception was gt and yamato
and seven, and paradox amd dynamo and wraith with her fake arms but you faggots conveniently forget those
oh and also bebop, the most out og place character rhat rapes any sort of notion about it being "noir"
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>>556947772
she's just troll warlord
>two stances
>attacks faster the more she focuses someone
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>>556946426
I got a mouse with a bunch of buttons and use 1234 on my mouse
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>>556947973
I heard a dude call her Ursa and I think I agree with that for the wolf form.
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>>556942117
>>556942585
I loved playing shiv and would spam him solely for the alt fire movement. He's such an ass hero when all you can do is execute and dash ever since they fucked up his alt fire, unironically ruined
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>>556947735
My gripe with helldivers is how tedious the progression system is. Those samples are terrible. Also the DLC costing so much if you've been away and you're getting back into it.
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>>556929697
With every other hero in the game, when you're in a losing position you can still use your abilities reliably and plan your plays around them. With silver, when you're in a losing position you're twice as fucked, because tanky enemies and/or low relative damage means you cannot fucking ult when it matters most. Either make using your abilities give bloodlust, make taking damage give bloodlust, or just give up on the mechanic and put the ult on a normal cooldown.
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>uuhhh silver is bad because I have to not play like a retard for a few seconds
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>>556948076
Eh for the leap = earthshock comparison I guess. But ursa stacks damage with on demand ROF boost whereas troll stacks rof. They both functionally have tank ults though.
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Vote Apollo!
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>>556947804
that's why it's OCCULT noir you retard
genuinely how the fuck can you see a mob boss with a fucking tommy gun that uses gambit's magic and think it doesn't belong there? How can you see a master thief using swapping shit and not see how it'd fit? Fuck me have you EVER read a hellboy comic at all? Dynamo would fit right the fuck in, there's already a character in there that's basically just him. There's a reason those characters were barely changed even when they got remodels, because they fit like a glove already.

i did forget about bebop though, they should really hurry it up and make him actually look like a scrap golem rather than whatever the fuck he's supposed to be right now. and guess what? he's one of the ones actually using an unedited neon prime model you swine

>>556947973
troll can switch between one or the other at will and they're both equally as powerful though
and again you shouldn't be basing your kit's feeling on moba shit because it doesn't translate.
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>>556948115
I don't mind about the progression as long as the gameplay is engaging, it stopped being so after they completely removed the IQ requirement from the highest difficulty.
There's a shitload of content, and it's a fine way to pass time, but the very second you want to experience any actual teamwork tactics or use a single braincell the entire game solves itself faster than you can become level 20 for all the basic stratagem unlocks.

It's just... BORING.
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>>556948264
this is the week bros I can feel it
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>>556946426
I use mouse buttons except 1 for ult
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>>556948140
This but unironically
Werewolf characters should be the designated "chimp out" characters
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>>556945904
>>556946506
(this post is not an invitation to make this a /pol/ tier discussion, just an explanation of what might be going on)
To elaborate: Right wing culture warriors have started calling everything that is not aligning with right wing values "woke". This can be as little as "capable female character" or pronoun nonsense, gay, or trans characters, and more recently: Female characters that don't sexually pander to a male audience.
This means that they can find something woke, in virtually any piece of media. Now all they have to do is: Wait for a piece of media to flop, or be considered shit, point at the woke and say "see? Go woke go broke. Every time. It just keeps happening". But if a piece of media is popular: you can downplay the woke, or even deny that it is woke. For instance: the failure of Captain Marvel was largely said to be "because woke", yet Avengers Endgame has a literal unironic girl power scene, is 20 times as diverse, but because it was well received, no "go woke, go broke".
Star Wars Acolyte was "woke trash" because it had lesbian space witches. Star Wars: Andor had lesbian space antifa warriors, and again no: "Go woke go broke".
Pic related: Right wing culture warrior anticipated that "Prey" would be a shit woke garbage movie, because instead of Arnie, the protagonist would be a tribal woman. But oh wait? The Movie turned out really good and a lot of people liked it? Better edit the video titles to backpaddle.

And I believe the same is happening with Deadlock: We have black characters, we tattooed chicks, we have muscle girls, all shit the anti-woke right sees as "woke". Which is the only flaw they recognized in Concord. So when they see Deadlock, they think it is the same. Because all they see is "nonbinary gay characters" and not: "Is the game actually fun and good"?

They're essentially faggots having a cry, because the game isn't exclusively pandering to their ideology.
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>brawl
>my mo and bebop INSTANTLY start arguing in Russian
>mute them both and jokingly say it's fine to instantly mute Russians
>they both go 0/4
>my 1/5 haze starts insulting me at the end of the game
Why am I getting 3 Russian teammates on EU servers?
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>>556947275
I'm literally studying the style because I wanna start making DD mods lmao. Yeah look at your picture, flat colors and pure blacks used for the shadows. The black shadows being the single most important part and completely absent from early DL that looked completely washed up. Then again it's really fucking hard to make something like this in a 3D fps where readability is everything.
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Celeste being a rare case of woman with three star stamina bar. This is a reference to HRT giving you magical powers like double jump and superior air dashing skills
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>>556946426
i use default
it just werks
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>>556945819
how is burst fire generic? and lash and seven shoot 3 shots while paradox shoots 5
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>>556946426
>1234
>left click to shoot
>mouse 4 to crouch
>E to replace mouse 4
>everything else default.
Don't need a prime key like E to set a fucking spray.
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>>556944014
No, old gritty urban fantasy noir aesthetic was better
t. old Ivy enjoyer
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>>556946426
1=Q, 2=E, 3=Mouse5, Melee=Mouse4.
I play a lot of Billy.
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>>556946426
all default
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>>556946110
this, joining a hate mob and scoring perceived wins is a faster source of entertainment than paying for or learning a new game
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>>556948549
she has 4 stamina though
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>>556941126
srsly though how the people in these ranks worse than in the lower ranks?
I hate it here
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I'm going to try and make some friends through Deadlock
Wish me luck bros
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>new player
>F makes me glow, tf is it
>Oh it's a parry
>Tf you need a parry button for in a shooter
>Some nigga is charging up his melee
>Parry it
>>>>>>>
Game is good anons
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>>556948481
Kill yourself
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>>556948483
My advice to you, learn Russian while you can, unironically
In the future, “Russians in my games” will be least of your concerns, eurocuck
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So is this general gonna start taking part in our cross thread soccer games?
I think /dlg/ is finally big enough
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>>556948968
>american
>thinking the Russians are gonna do anything anytime soon
Fuck off, traitor
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>>556948991
We dont have any significant memes
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>>556948521
which is why people thought that's where the style was heading towards since the very few pieces of finished art we had seemed to lead that way, instead we went with a way more colorful graffitti style for it. I don't believe they should've gone with a hard black shading at all for it actually, you can do it and it'll look good but it gets tiring fast (just play the hellboy game, madworld or dead west and you'll see what i mean) but the colors and tone should've definitely gone that way.

in the end it was inevitable we would head this way, you have to be really creative to pump as much juice as a live service hero shooter would require out of this kind of setting, and it's a lot easier to make an oc of yours like they're currently making at valve. i just wish they kept SOME of these things for the cast. Celeste would look so much fitting if she didn't have her instagram model anime face on her. The only reason Calico doesn't look completely retarded is because of her glasses being permanently white glare, put her on paige's and she'd be complete shit.
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>>556948991
We don't care
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>>556948481
>shove in niggers because of an agenda
>have niggers have an actual backstory and be a character
I think you're oversimplifying shit quite a lot.
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>>556948481
Holy shit you're a faggot.
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Why is there dialogue that points out Shiv and Abrams' healing but nothing that calls out that you've debuffed their healing?
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*is the worst hero in the game in your path*
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>>556949201
That's not Silver
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>>556949201
no matter the obstacle i shall 2+Q+LMB
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>>556949104
Kek, we are already inside your and Eumutts governments lmao
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>>556948991
Not enough memes and games still in alpha.
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>>556944310
>>556944404
>>556945139
>>556945345
ah ok that's what i imagined
it's a shame because normal mode feels too complicated for me and a bit intimidating with having moba mechanics, the whole verticality and whatnot
i guess some characters will just be useless in street brawl due to how they work, then. thanks
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>>556949272
You must be Initiate if you think Silver is worse than Venator LMAO
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>>556945904
>>556948481
The audience for that type of sewage is usually third worlders, once you notice it it's clear. They can't afford a PC to play a new game so it's "woke", they are obsessed with F2P gachaslop on their phones.
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>>556949332
Just learn the real game and you'll slowly come to realize how dogshit Brawl is. Easily the worst ARAM mode of any MOBA and it's not even fucking close.
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>>556949281
..youre going to parry, use an item, and shoot them?
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>>556945904
>>556945904
link the video
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How common are automatic parry scripts/macros?
In Oracle, every 3-4 games I always witness someone hitting every single parry with 100% success and not a single failed parry.

Not shit like parrying heavies or reading someone when they run out of ammo. Things like parrying randomly in the middle of a fight despite 0 indication of the person throwing out a light
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>>556949502
I use default keybinds, sorry for not being gay.
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I've never been so fearless than when 1v1ing a Venator
What is he gonna do? Run?
Deal decent damage?
Use his shitty ult that takes 20 seconds to take out and fire?
Let's be serious
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>>556948909
>>556949145
I'm sorry seeing the truth laid out to you, hurts your delicate feelings, anon. But facts don't really care about your feelings.
I don't really give a fuck if you are pro or anti woke. I just explained why these folks look at Deadlock, and claim it will be the next concord.
I mean, these fags were wrong about concord, too. Blaming the honestly shit tier character design, when the reason nobody wanted to play it was because it was a bland, uninspired overwatch clone with no hooks of it's own. Nothing to make you think: "oh this looks fun, actually". All they do is play "spot the woke" and then say that's the reason it failed.

>>556949137
Anon, to these people there is no such thing as a minority character that's not shoved in for an agenda.
No matter how much backstory you give a nigger, no matter how much backstory you give a tranny, they will ALWAYS see it as propaganda bullshit, and will always claim that it is the reason the game / piece of media failed.
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>>556948968
here's a (you), retard-kun
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>>556948805
you are now better than most players
every low rank spams heavy melees, free kills if you parry them
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Playing with russians makes me want to watch /gif/ webms of them dying in the war.
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>>556949658
Do the classic bait of tapping melee when close to them but facing the other way and see if they autoparry.
>>556948481
Spot on observation but it'll anger many retards obsessed with ragebaiting themselves.
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>>556949382
Eternus 7, actually
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>>556949658
I mean if you manage to stay calm, specially heavy attacks are pretty clearly telegraphed. It's not that hard to start parrying them, And if there's light attack spam, well, parry into spam is easy, too.
I've very rarely missed a parry when someone was going on me, and I'm in all truth a shit tier initiate 2 player. So I assume someone that is 25% better than me, is gonna have an even easier time.
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wraith is the worst hero in the game this patch. 0 damage and outclassed by most other heros. needs buffs asap
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How do I actually play Silver? The hero feels so fucking trash in my hands. The ult is ridiculously easy to counter with any kind of mobility or disarm and you're just kinda fucked. Even if I get to hit someone they need to literally stand completely still to deal any good damage, even just jumping around and through me cuts my damage so bad that it's near pointless. And I feel like I am made out of god damn paper. People can just manfight me and I die. What the fuck am I getting wrong with her?
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>>556950081
this except geist
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>>556949687
>no matter how much backstory you give a tranny
To be fair, trannies are not niggers and there is no amount of lore you can shove into that story to magically wave away modern agenda concerns, not even touching nature ones.
Also, both are not entirely mutually exclusive, you can have good stories altered and mangled in the production process for more DEI funding.
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How do I stop holding W during air movement? I held W my entire fucking life before this.
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>>556949114
Yeah those are the kind of games I was talking about and why the Magnolia style was never what they were going for. But it's completely disingenous to say that early DL had any trace of a dark noir vibe. Hell the cartoony style we have right now is far more in line with what you're describing and perfectly found in the hideout.
And I don't know how werewolves, vampires, necromancers and basically the entirety of the universal monster roster don't fit the aesthetic.
I find the combo of Vyper, Ivy and Mo being furries running around in silly hats like Zootopia far worse than the entire new cast. And the Neon Prime rejects at the time were more than half the cast.
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>>556942973
good song :)
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>>556950201
Um ACKSHULLY Gun Geist is S+ tier
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>>556944014
I think thia shows in the intro theme. The first was this spooky Danny Elfman shit which still is a standout by today's standards. No one goes orchestral with their menus.
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>>556950348
worse than gun holliday
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>>556949658
You can use fleetfoot to bait parries since it cancels your heavy attack
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>>556950167
Wait for her to get buffed
You are griefing picking her currently
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>>556950473
hmc got cucked so hard i forgot it existed
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People itt say they want a Voodoo character but I want an actual Voodoo character, that is to say, someone with ties to actual Voodoo religion and culture beyond witch doctor stereotypes cause that shit is actually really interesting if you're not racist
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So in Canon is there only 1 ritual or are they attempting this multiple times?
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>>556949801
>Spot on observation but it'll anger many retards obsessed with ragebaiting themselves.
I mean I can understand it. I was an anti-woke (or back then anti-sjw) myself for a long time. And all these people do is convince their audience all day that the woke left is ruining all their hobbies. And who wouldn't be mad if you believed someone is ruining your hobby? It's just usually not true.
Like yeah, it's easy to find a bad piece of media. and it's easy to find a piece of media that has some form of "not right wing" content. But they always fail to actually draw a causal connection between the two. It is just brought up together so often by them, that the audience believes they are connected, without any proof.
So saying: "Concord sucks because of the woke DEI inclusion". has about as much evidence as "Concord sucks because of straight men".
There's no evidence for that to be true, beyond them hating those things, and wanting them to be responsible for everything bad, so that they have a point in wanting to remove them.
>>556950202
I mean, yeah a story can be mangled for any reason. But I usually ask: "is that tranny story really BAD, or do you call it bad because you hate tranny stories" you know? Plus: trannies are actually pretty accurate for the deadlock setting. I think the first "gender confirming" surgery was done in the US in the 20s or so?
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>>556950606
I'm racist
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I'm noticing I really struggle if the game puts me in matches Phantom I + but the moment I'm in Oracle lobbies I can play the game and I really don't think the divide should feel that big. I feel lost how would you lot recomnend me being able to improve so I can better spot my own mistakes and learn?
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>>556950606
The villain from the Princess and the Frog would be a pretty cool hero tbqfah
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>>556950271
>But it's completely disingenous to say that early DL had any trace of a dark noir vibe
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>>556950329
Thanks, I like it a lot. :)
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>>556950612
how would they be doing it multiple times?
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>>556949796
aren't those niggers walling themselves off on the internet in may
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I need help with my schmovement bros.
how do people get forward momentum when they are moving parallel to a wall? is there some kind of camera flick I'm missing? I keep holding W and the wall jump just seems slow, I hold the strafe away from the wall and my momentum is too perpendicular.
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is the value of kills not = at all stages of the game?
I usually am a beast early game and come out of lane with like 5 kills but then late game the guy who I shit on all game has like 6 kills and somehow near = net worth to me from killing my team
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>>556949687
There is genuinely good fag characters, I like rent personally even tho i will never admit it

But rent succeeded before dei, they beat out other projects fair and square and they unironically had the best people doing the best work at the time

Shoehorning the gays into everything like concord makes shitty products because they are shitty people who would have not been selected in a meritocratic system. Its the same as those old black women who rose in military ranks back when racism was actually present, they mog the shit out of these c teir token picks who were only.chosen because they checked the box
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>>556950271
>But it's completely disingenous to say that early DL had any trace of a dark noir vibe.
Literally just look out of the window in the main hub. Look at the shadowy figure pacing in front of the piano.
The game 100% has a dark noir vibe. It's just not consistent with it. Not everything is dark noir.
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>>556950741
Try to learn some magic rituals to improve your luck so you get put on a team without dogshit feeders, other than that buy magic carpet + cheat death every match and at least try to have some fun that way
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>>556951017
you will not divide us, chud
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>>556950652
>no evidence concord was dei'd

staff photos
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>>556950652
Every tranny story is shit so long as it's the center of the story because of natural concerns (especially if put in a good light).
Otherwise it's some inconsequential lore snippets certain retards will drool over or your basic bait and switch a-la
>draw a woman
>but it has a penis!
especially in animation.
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>>556951068
Well I HAVE noticed a few of my losses have 2-3 people with 10+ deaths..
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>>556948330
how the fuck are robotic arms occult or noir, you stupid retard?

you didn't even add seven and paradox who are noth noir in looks and lore, dynamo is literally sci-fi, you know what sci-fi is you absolute idiot?

>unedited NP model
not only is that not true but the LN confirms he is staying basically the same, you stupid retarded faggot
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>>556950784
>posting fucking concept art
LMAO.
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End of thread gay Drifter x Mirage, nyeh heh heh!!
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>>556950961
Comeback mechanics, check the wiki
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>>556950961
Kills and stats genuinely do not matter one bit, except for Drifter and maybe for Talon and char with stacks on kill abilities.
Kills only matters insofar as the objective they make easier to conquer, be it farms, towers, midboss or patrons.

Killing a Seven three time in lane is good but it doesn't mean that much, but killing a dynamo at minute 20 while the midboss is up is huge, though it won't prevent your teammates from being retarded and if they refuse to take advantage of your picks they can bring down its value by itself.
Seems obvious, but people don't really play that way.
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>>556951493
we're only on page 6 it's barely even over bro probably 50 more posts to go
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>>556951272
>draw a woman
>but it has a penis!
hot
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>>556951992
shut up phone shit
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>>556951272
Its shit primarily because they disney'fy it imo. Some bs happy ending crap when half of them are dead by 30. If they leaned into the tragedy aspect it would feel a lot more real and not artificial, but they dont care about making art, its all faux performative to make themselves feel better, hedonistic at its core and cowardly to boot
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I REALLY hope Sinclair gets a visual rework soon so that people start playing him, so that Valve will actually nerf this busted fucking gimmick hero into the ground.
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>>556951456
concept art? it was the main menu
nigga really out here pretending as if people expecting the concept art to match the finished product is some outlandish thing lmfaoooooooo
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556952229
Raped shitter.
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>>556951017
>I like rent
The musical? My brother in christ, get better taste. Rent is fucking terrible.
>DEI
>Fair and Square
Your mistake here is assuming DEI is unfair. It's fixing an unfairness, but explaining that in full would be dangerous close to bringing /pol/ shit in here.
The problem as I see is: that the right has learned words like "shoe horning" "tokenism" etc, and is weaponizing them against any minority character, no matter what. You can have a black character with the best background, the best writing, and for them it will still always be "the forced diversity nigger. We waz kangz".
Also: the "just because they checked the box" is also a right wing lie, about affirmative action. The truth is: These people have a harder time getting a job with the same qualifications as white people, and affirmative action merely makes it so that if a minority is underrepresented (vs what is expected from qualified individuals of that minority), the next time they choose between two equally qualified candidates, they pick the one with a minority background. Equally qualified being the key word here. The Idea that people get free jobs because of minority status is a lie.
Again, fuck this /pol/shit, but look at the current adminestration. Do you feel like every appointed position is filled because of merit? The fucking former Deputy director of the FBI was a fucking podcaster. The Idea that "we live in a meritocracy except for minorities who get everything handed to them" is the biggest fucking joke.
Back to deadlock: Are there any good Celeste guides yet?
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I think you go headshot items on celeste, you are have high ground angles on demand basically with low grav, headhunter +crippling hs
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>>556952578
>>556952578
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>>556950807
I WANT TO HOLD YOU CLOSEEE
SOFT BREAST, BEATING HEART
AS I WHISPER IN YOUR EAR
I WANNA FUCKING TEAR YOU APART
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>>556952501
idk why he's even moaning about his gimmick, it doesn't even work on half the cast
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I do not care what white fat niggas or 3rd worlders think. I play deadlock because Infernus is a nigga and Wraith is a nigga and I like playing as black people. Simple.
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>>556952593
Why? Her gun projectile is slow as fuck and bouncing a headshot requires absurd precision
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>>556952694
Because you are always above the target so headshots are easier
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>>556951150
I wasn't talking about evidence that there was DEI involved, I was talking about evidence that DEI is the reason it was bad.
Looks to me like Concord was a management failure. It was a plain overwatch clone, it came 8 years too late, and it had zero interesting concepts or Ideas. Yeah some character designs were woke, but do we have any proof of a causal relation?
Or asked a different way: What "go woke go broke" game would you think you would main and play all day everyday, if they reduced / removed the wokeness? Would you have mained Concord, if all the character models were hot? Would you still be playing Suicide Squad if the pride flags in the hub were removed?
Because these games are crap completely independent of any wokeism.
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>>556952546
>The problem as I see is: that the right has learned words like "shoe horning" "tokenism" etc, and is weaponizing them against any minority character, no matter what. You can have a black character with the best background, the best writing, and for them it will still always be "the forced diversity nigger. We waz kangz".
You hit the ball out of the park but then say
>Also: the "just because they checked the box" is also a right wing lie, about affirmative action. The truth is: These people have a harder time getting a job with the same qualifications as white people, and affirmative action merely makes it so that if a minority is underrepresented (vs what is expected from qualified individuals of that minority), the next time they choose between two equally qualified candidates, they pick the one with a minority background. Equally qualified being the key word here. The Idea that people get free jobs because of minority status is a lie.
Which just shows you are another piece of the problem of why the first point is winning all over the western world. The second point is a significant cause of the first because it was not doing what you said and lead to majority descrimination in the sanitized bubble they created even if it was still a very real problem within certain spheres. By alienating people you helped the right win and because of it we are seeing the collapse of civil society in america.
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>>556951878
A new thread was made already bro..
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>>556952546
Its definitionally unfair and its clear you are drunk on the kool-aid, and there are no good celeste guides yet, sorry
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>>556952887
Id argue management failed because of dei but you are right in the pedantic sense that none of this is provable beyond doubt
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>>556950851
drifter lines do imply they've done it before and invite him over for old times
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>>556952945
>>556952985

Anons, it is proven, multiple times, that if you have identical resumees, the white sounding name gets picked more often than the black sounding name.
Nobody is saying this is "despicable racism bullshit" but we can all agree, that is an unfair advantage that us white people have, over other, non-white citizens, right?
So then, what is the problem, with affirmative action looking at what the expected number of racial minority hires would be in an area, after looking at the number of qualified people for each racial group, and using that number to correct this unfairness? Again: The candidates need to be equally qualified for affirmative action to "kick in", if you as a white guy, are more qualified for a position than a hispanic guy for instance, than you still get the pick. But if you are equally qualified, AND qualified hispanics are underrepresented in that company, than you draw the short straw, to balance out the unfairness.
In short what is happening is: White people have an unfair advantage, and affirmative action is a function to try and lesser than unfair advantage.
How is getting an unfair advantage removed "definitionally unfair"?
Also: Sucks about the celeste guides. I mean I didn't expect the moon so close after her release, but I wish there were some decent ones. All the ones I tried feel very "I just blasted a bunch of stuff in here, I dunno, good luck".
>>556953137
I guess I'll take it?
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>>556953774
back to pol with your affirmative racism
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>>556953774
>The candidates need to be equally qualified for affirmative action to "kick in"
>amidst foreign workers almost doubling in quantity with no native growth
>with less average qualification rates
>with less workforce engagement rates
>didn't even bother checking BLS stats over the last 2 years
I don't need to prove you wrong, I merely need to know that I am right.
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>>556933413
>its not that deep
>has a meltdown and starts projecting

always a great time
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>>556955263
>>556955549

Just educating misconceptions. Facts don't care about your feelings, anon. And if you had any, you would have presented them.
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>>556944867
no you're not
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>>556956610
I'm not spoonfeeding a well poisoner, go check out Bureau of Labor Statistics or check out articles on the 2024 labor crash
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>>556956610
>"racism is good when im doing it!"
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>>556950254
You just take your finger off the W key. What's the issue with this
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>>556957174
>Present the truth
>well poisoning
>>556957405
>group A is receiving an unfair benefit on the base of race over group B
>Removing that unfair benefit is racism
2000 IQ move.
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>>556937042
Are you interested in calling in calling her a racial slur?
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>>556946506
Same thing
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>>556948481
>(this post is not an invitation to make this a /pol/ tier discussion, just an explanation of what might be going on)

Nice way of saying "I'm completly wrong but please don't argue back"
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>>556965220
Not really. Right wingers will piss and shit and cry and yell that anything that doesn't align with their world view will crash and burn.
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>>556965381
I mean, I'm fine with someone arguing back. There's just not much to argue about. These are all facts. And as you can see all counter to it boils down to "you're a fag" "kill yourself" "Nigger". This is because what I posted is undeniable truth. But since you can't argue against undeniable truth, anons resort to insults. "We don't have to consider or counter this, because he's not a right winger like us, so everything he says is automatically false" It is the same "logic" with which they approach video game and movie criticism. Nothing has to be proven, nothing has to be explained. It is merely: "Does the thing I am reacting to have a different world view than me? If yes, then I can just disregard it, call it a slur and move on". It is the ideology of the simple minded.
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>>556965843
>These are all facts
You have done absolutely nothing but wank about how "true" your opinions are without any sort of context or logic. But of course, anyone who isn't a "right-winger" would never argue back, am I right?
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>>556958054
>>Removing that unfair benefit is racism
And when does it stop? When is "unfair benefit" considered removed?
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>>556966245
I mean, they can. Feel free. But like I said. All the counters you usually get from right wingers are insults.
For the record: I don't begrude any 4channer for falling for the culture war lies from right wingers. I used to believe it myself. But literally any of their claims, you look into it even remotely and it turns out to not be true, to be out of context, or be some other sort of perversion of the facts.
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>>556966428
>All the counters you usually get from right wingers are insults.
No. Take >>556957174 and >>556955549
for an example, woh presented you with something to look on, but you only put your fingers into your ears and scream "RiGHt-WinGEr" like some mental asylum patient.
Make another post in this dead thread where you just say youre wrong i am right again.
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>>556935920
Smaller ones are more sensitive.
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>>556966835
Anon the first called me a well poisoner and then told me to check out articles on the "2024 labor crash". Which is not even a widely recognized event? Like, if you fucking google the term it has not a single mention. What do you want me to do with this: "You didn't answer the guy who said to check out something that if you google it, doesn't even come up as a recognized event" Yeah uhh,,, guess immigrants did that. DEI and such.

Second post claims that foreign workers almost doubled in quantity. This is not true. Foreign born workers are a significant source of labore, but it's not like native born workers are in a majority.
Just that the very much most recent growth in the US has come from immigrants, while the native work force aged out and is replaced a bit slowly.

Next point is "With less average qualification rates" this too, is misleading: Foreign workers on average do more unskilled labor, and lower skill jobs. They do not, on average, are less skilled in the jobs they are hired for.
There is no substantial argument here, Even if we ignore the fact that anon here missed the point COMPLETELY, because we were talking about DEI and affirmative action, which can and does impact US BORN CITIZENS, while anon is scaremongering about foreign workers, another topic entirely.
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>>556936190
>muh realism about le unicum
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>>556937728
Seven, they've clearly shown that they want him to be a mainly gun character , so then why does his ult lock him out of shooting?



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