Previous: >>557177134>What... is this?Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ>Where can I watch the cup?https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html>Ongoing Invitationalshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/VGL_Luigi_Circuit_4https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/LAN_Party_the_3rd:_Admins_of_the_Frozen_Throne>Upcoming Invitationalshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/VGL_Ladies_Night_3:_The_Squidstein_Fileshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Test_Cup_V_18.1https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4CC_Champions_Leaguehttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League_9/11:_Never_Forget>Wiki:https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page>Sekkrit Code37pebis>DLC Passworddivegrass>Booruhttps://isthisliv.com/booru/>Archivehttps://implying.fun/>Other videoshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos>PES Infohttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2021>PreviouslyPatchfaggotry is back on the menuPES15 is still horribleSo is PES21
Who runs the implying.fun domain and how do I contact them?
zoer olev
>>557438819>Who runs it?VACANT >contact Just yell in this thread and he shall appear
Dear VGL Council, please show me mercy just this once. I want to see /pmmm/ lift the championship trophy at least once before I die. Then I'll have no more regrets. I won't be a burden to the others who make VGL shine. They're all good people.
>>557439089It's just an autistic divegrass event, bro, chill out. Just watch with your VPN on and try not to comment to not get banned.
>>557439089shutup nigger
>>557438731https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Beta_Bowl_4When is this happening? I want to see /mbg/ play.
>>557439089You don't need to be a personality bro, embrace the culture of anonymously watching and throwing garbage at people.
>>557439587I was told it was pushed back to before spring but in the event it doesn't happen /mbg/ will be playing in AGL this summer
>>557439903ok
>>557439481Do you want me to die and go to hell forever?
thinking pes21 is kino
/@/
>>557440934...is worthless and its managers are shit.
>>557441180Rent free
If /pmmm/ doesn't win LN3, they won't have a chance at VGL26 either.
>>557440934GIWTWM
>watching very gay league
The /feg/ pitch is so based
>>557441225Dimeless team that always throws whatever advantage they have, only for karma to catch them later in a frisky mood, as they did with Nash. Another idol girlslop team that needs to be eradicated along with /llsifg/, /psg/, and /gbpen/. They should give their slot to another team with a real game who actually has interest like /mggg/, /trick/, /trg/, /sora/ or /czn/
>>557442001Ok tendies.
>>557442001>Another idol girlslop team that needs to be eradicated along with /llsifg/, /psg/, and /gbpen/.TRVK->They should give their slot to another team with a real game who actually has interest like /mggg/, /trick/, /trg/, /sora/ or /czn/raped
>>557442001Fine speech BUT you sound a raped
Should :monass: be added as an emote?Vote here:
>>557442001>/mggg/ >trickNew cuckbrush not beating the allegations
>>557442163No
>>557442163Ye
>>557442001/trick/ and /sora/ are dimeless girl slop. Utterly raped post.
>>557442001>Another idol girlslop team that needs to be eradicated along with /llsifg/, /psg/, and /gbpen/.raped>They should give their slot to another team with a real game who actually has interest like /mggg/, /trick/, /trg/, /sora/ or /czn/lolcow flavor of raped
>>557442181lolcow speed run
>>557442001
Now that the dust has settled, is 21 fixed?
>>557443037>3-4-3 still rapes other team formationsNope.
>>557443037pretty good but some adjustments needed
Give me takes on the matches, I hunger for takes
>>557443037>LB and RB get +7 added to all statsI have saves pes 21. Could even give a small buff to my niggas RMF and LMF
My opinions on 21 are based entirely on my shortcomings as a manager.
>>557443393group C is the weakest group but also the most fun/gbfg/ is spoon (not a take so much as an observation)
No Luigi Circuit ASS?
>>557443604Not yet.
>>557443550>group C is the weakest group>only group without a 3-4-3
>>557443604Tomorrow, not enough random people on comms today for BoB to run it
zamn, the reddit cat looks like THIS!?
>>557444067needs a baby in that tummy
Calling things reddit is peak reddit.
>>557443037No.
FUCK YEAH /DOMG/!!!
>>557440934Don't @ me.
cloud
>>557444705cup team patch
>>557442001Holy TRVKE
>>557445593KEKflesia you don't have to reply to yourself...
>>557445701what causes someone to act like this
Can someone post the thing to make WEBMs again
>>557446287https://www.ffmpeg.org/
rate the 3-4-3s individuallyrate the non 3-4-3s individually
>>557442163Yes
>>557446406>ffmpregseems sussy....
>>557446995/gig/ > /2hug/ > /llsifg/ > /esg/ > /gbpen//lcg/ > /pg/ > /pcrg/ > /domg/ > /xivg/ > /mjg/ > /ksg/ > /psg/ > /nikg/ > /smbg/ > /gbfg/Coping hard for /pg/ but I like their moxie
>>557443037Nah its fundamentally broken. Defenders got hit too hard with the nerf bat.
>>557442163>more assNo
>>557443037More mended then fixed. Some changes need to be made but it is adequate so far.
FUCK /PMMM/!
>>557446287https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
>>557448863By me
>>557448863:snaapolice:
>>557448863Is she made of water
>>557449058She's invisible
I was impressed by the incredible offensive prowess displayed by /llsifg/, /gbpen/, and /2hug/ today. However, the downside is that /pmmm/ can't show the same offensive prowess. They only average two points per game, and I hope their defense doesn't collapse further under the new rules.
>>557449209WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN SAYMY NAMEHAS THE MEMORY GONE ARE YOU FEELING NUMB
>My ruleset was dogshit recently>I was pretty bummed about it>But I think the haters were probably happier to see it fail than I was sad.>The total happiness in the world increased>So, whatever
>>557448250the changes that were made were genuinely good, but /pg/ just couldnt keep up with the 3-4-3 barreling through defense like it didn’t exist
>>557450053A more healthy approach than the patchco's>if you don't let me fuck with things I don't understand you're responsible for the cup dying
>>557449390whore
>>557443037Nothing that was done to it seems to have a positive impact on it. I mostly don't understand those huge changes for the defenders (cbs are already bad on 21), shorter keepers, stamina and so many other changes. 21 is just 21 in the end. That said I don't mind the new medal system, I don't think bronzes are to blame here, only the stat distribution for them.
>>557450482>(cbs are already bad on 21)????????????????
>>557450601>throws literally any lob at themNothing personnel
>>557450654sure worked against /v/ and /biz/'s 194cm CBs
>>557450141Snex
I really don't understand why both the patches and the rule autism always has to fucking tweak everything at once. Oh you don't like how this aspect of the game works in this PES? We have a patch for that, it just also happens to change 15 other variables because the voices in my head told me they need to go too. You want to nerf a specific stat on players in a given position? Alright, but we've also made them 178cm tall, gave them 3/2 weak foot usage, 5 form, 49 stamina and 99 finishing.If the assumption is that we're stuck on the PES versions we have, don't we also have time? Can't we just change 2-3 things and see what it does before using a dartboard and listening to prophetic dreams?
Wide play needs strict stat buffs to wide players (fullbacks, wingmids, wing forwards) to be competitive in 21Limit them to 1 A position and give them a +5 across the board or something
>>557451220This is how I feel about the whole thing, patchers like marcoZ just change shit no one asked for and even this 21 ruleset is not just tweaking a thing, it is adding a million other variables because every medal and non medal got different values now.
>>557451220They also found out how most of the stuff works 2 days ago, kekypow!
>>557450203didn't help that they had a purple medal cmf, i feel like /pg/ always gets dogshit condition rolls
>>557451650KWABa…
tma tested his rule set in an invitational/invitationals where he made more than half the teams then is surprised by the results of when 100% of teams are made by and managed by other people
Based Streakie telling off Triangle man
>>557452000For some reason he didn't imagined that 1/3 or more of the managers would also use 343 on 21
>>557452000What's worse, being him or being VGLco who believed in his snake oil
>>557452000Then again, is it that different from /admin/ testing PES15 in a meme format where they made all the sliders?
>>557451220People will complain if the incremental changes do nothing and a cup ends up being run on that. Also per tmas words, this is the result of a billion off screen tweaks and tests.
>>557452254doesn't excuse this and in fact should have made them more wary of moving to a new pes especially one that was controversial
>>557452254Yeah this feels like the same thing. Except for 21 being already solved, we all know what to expect from a 21 tournament.
If you want defenders that are useless just use 16
VGLco really letting TMA control of the discussion of what we need for 21 to be usable. Kekaroo
>>557452435I love when people say this as if /vrg/ clones weren't running wild in late 17
>>557453101Ok? No one is talking about 17 or using 17 right now.
>>557453060I looked and it's just everyone being told shut up
>>557452316No amount of tests can prepare you for everything. Conditions, managers, formations, sliders, even pixels, all this has to be taken to account just for normal testing, let alone for a ruleset. Better off just simplifying it instead of 1000 autistic tests.
>>557453223Okay but you also know what to expect from 16. And 19. And hell, even 15 and 18. The cup has gone on too long for anyone who isn't new to go in not expecting things from a versions cup.
All 2264 VGL matches (all official matches including VGL9 friendlies then things like tiebreakers for sneeding or roster spots) are in, now begins the long process of inputting all the match and player data as well as fixing a bunch of screens that assume we're playing with the same number of teams as 4CC
>>557453820Good jerb
Okay but what's wrong with snake oil?
>>557454046it turns you into a jew
>>557453060I just skip any discussion if there are more than 10 posts without a green name
>>557454046It's all "trust me bro" bullshit
>>557453820:thumbsup:
>>557453820Whens the actual isthisliv getting fixed? I need to know if Giantess really got golden ball with 2/3 of her assists being vs /gd/
GokuCHAD ENTERS to drop trukes
>>557453016And somehow he's the bad guy
>>557454192but they're literally going to test what people suggest in LN3 and the weekend cup stuff, do they think VGL is going immediately from LC3 to VGL26 with nothing inbetween?
>man 21 is so shit we can't figure out a ruleset for it and patches are shit>we voted for 21 because... *checks notes* people in the town hall made good arguments such as "it's shit and we should get it out of the way now"These people also vote for a president
>>557454252Not the guy who runs isthisliv although I'm technically the guy who broke the winter page but it sounds like it should be fixed within a few days
>>557454432Brooo 19 was used recently.... like 3 VGLs ago, that's very recent to me!
>>557454432>3 vglco bitching and moaning at tma for trying to fix 21who the fuck in vglco actually wanted 21 then holy fuck
>>557454553NGL TMA is a fucking retard, but it's 100% VGLco's fault for trying to use his ruleset and giving him a voice in here to talk about his ruleset. Shit is so funny
>>557454046it's TMA's snake oil so he'll act like the expert and kingmaker for a league that's not his own
I was okay with the 21 decision until they blindly went with random shit that came to tma in a vtuber ass wiping asmr induced dream. Zero thought went into this ruleset. And I'll bet you nomo will get on ASS and admit he didn't actually watch any of the vtl invitational he said he was watching.
As a newfag, TMA seems like a genuine dude who's trying to make a good outcome from a shit situation (PES21)Don't know why everyone is shitting on him when it's obvious he's putting in a lot of effort
I really need a moment to process what kind of shit inhabits tma's brain. What the fuck man...
>Denko and BoB ask what changes could be made for 21 off of one day of testing>get constructive feedback and multiple suggestions>they leave>only TMA is giving any feedback now>"streamers" start talking>fuck this shit, this shit is ass, why are we here, I hate my lifeI wish there was a weegee ASS, it'd have more disagreements than the history of FB
I don't care about your rulesIf 19, I'll put a 442 on the fieldIf 21, I'll put a 343 on the fieldIf cunny, I'll put lots of semen inside herSimple as
>>557454935I agree. TMA seems like powertripping dicksucker about VTL rules, but trying to fix 21 without resorting to patching is a noble cause that probably is doable except people start having a melty as soon as they see abnormal numbers.
>>557451650why not just sub off the CMF? judging by the aoba files a purple medal is worse than a green nonmedal
>>557454935Ok Taba
>>557454959can just be summarized as "make defense worse, make offense better"
>>557454935>>557455121This is just sad.
>>557454959This is a glimpse inside the mind of a man who has literally spent more time and work on PES than everyone in /admin/ and VGLco combined
>>557454959"turn 21 into 16" "lobotomize any defender"
>>557455305Pan my beloved
I wanna fuck Raphalia (Loli) from Shield Hero in the ass
>>557455295>This is a glimpse inside the mind of a man who has literally spent more time and work on PES than everyone in /admin/ and VGLco combined and has nothing to show for itftfy
>>557455295Terrible argument if we want admin to at least try the shit they are cooking.
>>557454909He gave me a shitload of stats and feedback when I asked him about it so I am pretty sure he did
>>557455295Reso alone has spent more time on PES than TMA has been alive for
>>557451448changing shit that no one asked for just because the voices in his head told him to really damaged Marco's credibility. Not a wise decision on his part
3-4-3 is a certified troon formation
>>557454935TMA just won't listen to any criticism no matter how constructive it is. he thinks he is always right and everyone else is wrong. The very idea that he might be wrong about something never penetrates that dense head of his
>>557456314akg.... crimson....
>>557456340yeah yeah DEN make the cbs taller itll solve all your issues
>>557456450Raped because you made the CBs trash for no reason, kekypow
>>557455295based TIME and EFFORT poster
>>557455295Even if that were trueAmount of time spent on PES /=/ qualityThere's been so many shit teams and shit managers that tried their hearts out for a ton of tests and achieved no results.
>>557454959This seems to be counter intuitive to the the whole double A creativity thing the vgl goes for. Why would you ever run a buffed player anywhere near defense with these stats? I'm convinced vglco put zero thought into this.
how did a single tactical formation rape the whole VGL? the cord's meltdown status is beyond the charts
>>557456820They are just posting meme shit now. PES 21 is garbage even if you use 343 or not.
>>557455295Same retard who told everyone presets mattered btw
>>557456723They didn't because they took TMAs shit wholesale so Weegee would be a control variable for further changes. It's been said multiple times.
>Dumb meme mechanic is winning me overFuck it, book it Denko, it will be such good shit.
LC4 is gonna be like that one mobabowl that was used to test that dogshit pes19 patch. Two weekends wasted on something we knew was going to be shit.
>>557457324That Mobabowl was fun
i care about formations only because /4ccg/ and the streamers and commentators and the admins make formations a big deal
>>557457324You can predict a modern day divegrass event is going to be shit and 90% of the time you'll be right.
>>557454959Actually what I don't like about this is that it pretty much kills the point of having a free A, you are locked into whatever main formation you built this for
when are /lcg/, /bag/, /nikg/ and /esg/ playing?
>>557457028>your control variable includes /gbfg/Kwab
>>557457324You are confusing it with the patch for LN2, that was utter dogshit. Mobabowl was fine
>>557457665Well it can't be helped. They're gonna exist in the main thing too.
>>557457595TriangleMA: it just depends on if you want freedom or a watchable product
>>557457620All of them are playing tomorrow except /bag/.
>>557457731No this was the patch used before the LN patch even existed. It was so shit marco was fixing it before the tournament even started. There was never an LN2 patch how times does this need to be repeated?
>>557457772Freedom, the second is subjective and vague.
>>557457772watchable for who?
>>557457731Moba22 did use a shitty patch and iirc it wasn't even the right one either. https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/MobaBowl_2022
Oh wasn't marcoz also changing the patch without warning for LWS
>>557458630Oh yeah that happened too.
>>557453820Do you want help?
Sangen gave me a box of chocolates today
Go to sleep trangen
>>557458951Stfu trangen
I miss Zoer (not a zoerschizo)
>>557458951Post pits
did someone say pits?
i got raped by vglco after my valentines date with my co
>>557459682>>557459914
I got my co pregnant and fled the country...
When the hall monitor speaks, I listen
>>557459972Yeah that's the stuff.
/psg/'s punishment should be to add Rabbit Migu as the GOLD CAPTAIN for the remainder of the cup, simple as
>be vglco>declare inshallah we shall be going to a fox pes next and no we will not consider a formation ban>host a town hall to get manager feedback>majority of managers don't want 21>patched vs unpatched is a huge discussion point for any fox pes as well>close the chat and disappear>several days later announce a decision has been reached>after much deliberation we have decided to go with 21>patch snake oil salesman and disgraced vgl manager turned league commissioner worm their way into chat again>go with player stat snake oil for the first memevitational>by half way through the first day the commissioner is already walking back the formation ban>guy who made the rules publicly apologises before turning around and defending every decision he made>melties from people saying i told you so and saying it can be fixed
>>557455305This pic made me pansexual.
>>557460702It's not happening bro, let it go
>>557461235nyo
The raped lolcows are fighting again...
>>557460702There can't be sovl in a sovless team like /psg/, sorry.
>>557460702Not that Tech would ever notice.
>>557461569Miku is soulless too tbf
>>557461024that sums it up nicely
>>557461961maybe on planet retard
>>557461961You are thinking of Teto.
>>557462058Teto is soul and 4cccore though
>>557461024We could not foresee the dominance of 343
Vocaloid is soulless
>>557462223Many are saying this.
I admit I crossed a line by getting banned. They'll never forgive me, but I'll beg for their forgiveness until I get back.
>>557462379/vg/ maniaaaa....
>>557462379Maybe if you create your own team and sign up for an invitational, it will show how you are dedicated to divegrass and they will unban you
vods doko
>>557454909no he did>>557459962raped by John "The Raped" Woke
>>557461961Miku is full of sole
>>557462379Do you know the easiest way to get back to the 'cord? Say you want to comentate a match, and do it for real or you're not gonna get back ever again!
>>557463619uoohhhhhhhhhhh
>>557463619>3 girls in one pic with barely any defectsNot bad for a clanker
>>557462379Become an aesthetics guy and they will tolerate anything.
>>557462379Do you know the easiest way to get back to the 'cord? Come into the room and lock the door, hue hue hue hue...
>>557465396You have to actually become one first though, you can't pull what that one guy did and start babbling about aesthetics/animations and then start a dozen political arguments before you have a real position.
>>557465998still seething about pesCHADDER?
>>557462379>>557462758create a /kpop/ team and test for /mu/
Free my niggas fullback and wingmid
>>557468619why did they nerf them when wide play is already bad on 21
>>557469398tma things
>>557469398tma doesn't like wide play
>>557469398Give them plus 3 stats while we're at it
>>557469793on one hand he complains about wide play not being good but on the other he hates 17 which has the best wide attack of any PES
>>557470295>hates 17Why does anyone listens to this clown again?
Patches for someSchizo stat spread for others
>9
>>557470295this is a non-sequitur. the two points you are trying to make have no relation.
Keep 3-4-3 legal but you have to run LB-CB-RB
Third stage: bargaining
>>557462861BEE
>newfag manager learns you just get fucked on 21haha
>>557485637Based. Fuck him.
99/94/89/77 GSSBB who cares if people run 3-4-3 let it be a grim reminder
>>557485743what did he do?
>>557485874Having a pro 21 co.
>"oh poor /pg/ got raped the most by /llsifg/ on Day 1"very tranny league bias
>>557485904who seemingly abandoned him to fend for himself despite being a huge shill of 21. classic KWABa
VTL getting posted on 'cord
>>557486095This fucking autist won't shut up about his bullshit
>vote for 21, a PES so notioriously broken it'd have never been given air time if not for massive amounts of autism>refuse every possible solution to make it watchableyour brain on very gay league
>>557486148Go tell him then
>>557486306It's not my job to moderate VGLcord.
>>557486331coward
>>557486296No one voted for 21.
>>557486409I voted for 21
>21 needs 40GB of spaceGoing with a 256GB SSD was a mistake
>>557488191>256GBLiterally phone tier.
>>557488191hello there fellow poorfaggrab yourself M2's before the AI jews buy all of them
>>557488337too late for thatSSD prices been fucked since November
>>557486148tell it to his face
>>557488494still far less worse than what happened to RAM
>>557488191My financial-technologically impaired brother.
VGLcord really be like
>>557490567lol
>>557462861https://gofile.io/d/RCqba8
>>557491692
>>557486426Were /akg/'s feefees really that important?
has anyones PES been debated more over than ciphers? this shit is cross-leagued now
>>557486296A majority of the vgl managers opposed going back to 21
>>557486148I think the 343s he used for his testing were shit and gave him bad data
>>557495578Needs correction.
>>557486306why? he will just personally insult you then double down. tell him hes wrong and he will act like you shot his dog.
>>557497995Go tell it to his face KWABantis
>>557497635thats a man
>>557498878Aquantis has the balls to say it in person.
>>557459914>/zzz/ image posted>not immediately met with 5 replies about cuckoldryIs /4ccg/ healing?
>>557488191>256GBIs it 2007 again?
what are those controller settings Triangle posted? Those are way different than vgl or the cup uses. I wonder if thats the issue
>>557501587Cipher supposedly only changed one setting from what he used for UC3.
>>557501587 why do 'controller' settings matter when nobody is using a controller
>>557501717Two schools of thought on this:- The AI is "using" a "controller" to play the game so they matter- The AI is bypassing the whole thing and it doesn't matterI think the latter. If I recall some horsefuckers tested some of this (assisted sliding, cursor stuff, and legend vs superstar)
>>557501587Here's Cipher's controller settings for LC4
>>557501638Then it sounds like VTL uses way different settings for their controllers. With that many differences, even the "these don't matter" crowd can't argue that it does nothing
>>557501638>>557501820 (me)The only thing changed was cursor change from assisted to semi-assisted
>>557501820Pass Support Level, Through Ball, and Shot type are different: Level 3, Advanced, Advanced vs. Level 1, Basic, Basic for the Cup/vgl
>>557501819I had pass support to the highest on 17 and switching it to I think was off to match with VGL rules and the difference was really notable to the point I had to rethink my entire game plan.I guess I just belong in the first school of autists.
>>557501979>>557501951For VGL it may be different, but it's very nearly the same settings that cipher used for VTL's most recent invitational. It does not explain the change in AI behavior for the ruleset being used. Whereas the most likely explanation is that PES21 has an extremely fragile steady state which VGLco fucked up when they moved to GSSBB without extensive testing.
>>557501820Are those settings the same on the second controller? I checked mine and verified they are the same for both controllers: Level 1, Basic, and Basic
>>557501821Actually they can because the theory is controls only matter for players
>>557502192But it's not. VGL uses the same controller settings that the Cup uses. The VTL controller settings are the outlier
>>557502202Yes. Cipher is using the same settings on both controllers.
>>557502192Or maybe your ruleset had poorly made exports.
>>557502349I'm saying that the most recent previous usage of this ruleset, when the VTL ran a similar version of LC4 but with GGSSS, had nearly identical controller settings. The changes in AI behavior from UC3 to LC4 are from the ruleset being changed.
>>557502094think you might be a schizo
the real villain of 21
/sci/ can solve this controller setting debatehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_tasting_tea
>be VGLco>Go to vanilla 21, a pea so bad that it took 3 months of continuous testing plus 2 invitationals to get presentable >Take the ruleset that made pes21 watchable but change medal systems without properly testing the changes>Shit breaks and gameplay isn't the same as the original ruleset>Blame the ruleset creator for issues caused by changes you made>Get everyone to accept PES19 insteadBravo VGLco, bravo
>>557503120changing GGSSS to GSSBB without testing it was kind of gay, especially since these Bronzes are all kinds of fucked up
>>557502907if sen-p:ai worked i would have already done all of this but it only works for 17 and i can't extract data out of it into something i can shove into R
This is why we need Weegee ASS Bob
>>557503120haha, pea
>>557503120what if TMA was BETRAYED and TRAPPED by nomo
soupy x denko is a yuri shipsoup x denko is lunch
>>557455295I know I'm 12 hours late for this but I still have to inform you that>SDA
>>557503120thanks for crying in the thread too, tma
>>557505005not tma
Learn Hebrew
Rate Day 1 of Weegee & your MOTD:>/mjg/ vs /esg/>/nikg/ vs /pcrg/>/2hug/ vs /gbfg/>/pg/ vs /llsifg/>/ksg/ vs /lcg/>/psg/ vs /domg/>/xivg/ vs /gbpen/>/smbg/ vs /gig/
>>557505581no im learning korean
>NOOOOOOO THERE WAS A SINGLE DEFENSIVE MISTAKE AT 58:17 OF THIS MATCH MY RULESET IS GARBAGE THE VIEWERSHIP IS GONNA DROP
How DARE you take time and effort to improve this? You should just want the same slop forever and ever and ever!
>>557503120>without properly testing the changesI didn't realize LC3 was actually VGL26. Damn what a turnover of top teams.
สวัสดีตอนเย็น
>>557506267/2hug/ my goats
>>557506267Three recent champs - /lcg/, /gbfg/ and /2hug/
>>557506081>/2hug/ vs /gbfg/this one just cause of the pre-match funnies. though granted,>/pg/ vs /llsifg/>/ksg/ vs /lcg/>/psg/ vs /domg/i missed these matches, someone give me a qrd
>why don't we continue to shove this square peg into the obviously round holejust fucking use GGSSS for LN3 for fucks sake.
>>557507192/ksg/ manager threw the match by making bad tactical decisions.
>>557506942
>why don't we continue to shove this square peg into the obviously round holejust fucking use PES13 for LN3 for fucks sake.
>>557507394ඞ
>>557507898thanks
>>557507898just give it to every poster in this thread, all of /admin/, VGLco, TMA, and anyone who participates in and watches divegrass
>copy rules one guy made up to make pes play like how he wants>the rules fucking suckat least you can ask the rule guy to make autopilots that play nicely with the shit rules since half the managers will be banned by vgl 26 anyway
>>557508336It wouldn't apply to most of them for one reason or another
>>557507898>whiteis 3 fourths good enough?
>>557508681The rules are an improvement over how 21 looks with a stock divegrass ruleset. That shit is unwatchable garbage, and yesterday was at least somewhat entertaining.
>>557508784No.
>>557443037What I saw yesterday felt far more enjoyable to watch and not-as-broken than I remember any of of the patched 21 cups being.But it's only been a single matchday and 3-4-3 dominance and over half the shots in every match coming from s2w is still concerning.
>>557508784
>>557508784Post hand?
>>557508706okay, remove white and it applies to all of them
>>557508887>over half the shots in every match coming from s2w is still concerning.why? I've never heard a reason for this, just spin2win is le bad, but why?
>>557509174Variety. It's a bad thing if the average viewer can start noticing most of the teams are scoring the exact same goal over and over every match in the exact same way.
Who's the blackest white guy of divegrass?Who's the whitest black guy of divegrass?
>>557509418ResoJB
karth having a melty in the 'cord
Shut the fuck up, Karth. Bridget will never be a woman.
>we're now at the point where they're going "if you run a playstyle make the stats 1:1 of this real player"
>>557510024what?
Now that the tma ruleset experiment has failed, how do we salvage VGL26?
>>557510892>now that VGLco's butchering of TMA's ruleset has failedftfy
>>557510892It's really not that bad, it was pretty enjoyable. A few small fixes to CBs/stamina/bronzes to prop up midfield pressing and centre defence and it'll be good to go for 26
>TMA: "Bob saar, please do the needful and read back on my posts">Also TMA:
>>557512762i know that's why i asked
>>557497308A majority of the managers actually didn't care
why doesn't aoba just decompile console 16/17 and recompile it for pc so we have fox 16 & 17?
>>557510395I'm not balding, and if I start I'm hoping on fin and a plane to roachistan
>>557513075reverse engineering single functions is much easier than doing it for a whole game anon
>>557513348Aoba is subservient enough that he'll do it eventually.
>>557513583no
>>557513841Yes.
>abby_good?fuck that shit>abby_cute.
>>557514230abby_raped because he won't port console PES to PC
>>557442163Damn 50/50
>wake up>"no bro you don't get it the ruleset is perfect it was the streamer's controller settings actually">"nah you don't get it, the issue is that we switched the medal system, that's way more impactful than the dozen arbitrary skill changes from the ruleset">"oh my god why are you such a konami cultist, why are you so allergic to any change?">wake downI'd have much easier time respecting the effort of patch or rules autism, if the autists behind them weren't instantly sperging out the nanosecond any criticism hits their changes. You're literally doing untested cutting edge gameplay modifications, why do you have to take it as an attack on your precious ego? Bonus points for>well nobody provided any feedback so...>okay this guy provided feedback but he's wrong and I'm right so...
>>557515028>"nah you don't get it, the issue is that we switched the medal system, that's way more impactful than the dozen arbitrary skill changes from the ruleset"The medal system broke everything. It's one thing to say that the ruleset is bad when you don't change anything, it's another to change an integral part of the ruleset and then blame the person who made the original for the changes you made.>You're literally doing untested cutting edge gameplay modifications,That's VGLco with their GSSBB system. The original ruleset with GGSSS didn't have as much s2w.
>>557515028Nah, I suggested some things to TMA and he took it into account so if the criticism is constructive you have a fair shot.
>>557515358hi KWABMA
auties results doko
>have ruleset that works with ggsss>propose it for a tournament that is known ahead of time to be gssbb>doesn't work because of the differences in medals>wtf how could this be happening vgl needs to change their medal format
>>557515028>untested cutting edge modificationsyeah cause PES was designed with 99/88/77 COM vs COM play in mind
>>557515358maybe the ruleset isn't very good if it breaks the second you change one (1) thing
>>557516173We have 15 years of experience in seeing mostly that exact thing being run. By very definition it's no longer "cutting edge" or "untested". Stop pretending to be obtuse
Why did vglco blindly trust tma's rules anyway? Did cipher poison the vglco well?
>>557516717and we have as much experience switching it around when it doesn't work (GGG-> GGSS, 14 patches, /rules/ and patches in 16, GGSS->GSSBB in 17, 18 lobotomization, 21). When did the format become so sacred and untouchable? We used to get multiple people autisming to put on the best possible show, heck Lear of all commissioners pulled off a masterpiece with 17 GSSBB.
>>557516998GSSBB was more of a lighting in a bottle, barely tested at all.
>>557517138I remember. That's the correct amount of testing:- Does it work?- Does it not look like complete shit?Ship it. We can always change it later.
>>557516940They make decisions on vibes only, like "lol we should just ban 433 and 442," and "lol we should just do bufflets AND height abuse"
>>557516586Or maybe PES21 just a fragile game that fucking sucks
>>557516998>When did the format become so sacred and untouchable?Right around the time when certain southern european salesmen started showing up with a bottle of mysterious oil and the pitch of>okay so we've been doing the same thing for years now and we know it mostly works, but what if we changed absolutely fucking everything for no explainable reason and the result was some of the most unwatchable PES in cup history? at least it's something different!
>>557516586That says more about PES21 than the ruleset.
>>557518458Thanks Robert, Needed something while watching this fresh melty unfold
>>557518458Why does this looked like a cropped twitter screencap?
>>557516940i mean they made changes to the ruleset.
>>557518367>patched 21 is worse than summer 14, spring 19 or even winter 17yeah okPES21 was completely unusable in vanilla and /admin/ went for it anyway when it required patching, so who's to blame? It's not an easy PES to make decent with rules, I think that's abundantly clear now.
>>557518643>PES21 completely unusableFinally we agree on something
>>557518643>PES21 was completely unusablestill is
>>557518367PES21 patched by far is better than 15.
PES21 is superior in everyway to every other PES version EXCEPT for gameplay.
Make tweaked rules for luigi week 2 and update everyone's exports for it. It'll be funny.
>>557519007BoB, we're giving you gold to make Luigi Circuit 4 the best invitational of all time, and you're just ignoring it
>>557519007we're just stealing gimmicks from the VTL now?
>>557518643>>557518856>>557518931Except for the fact most matches yesterday were actually pretty fun
>>557519156Took damn near four months of effort to get here and we're still having the same issues as always.
>>557519156what made them fun?
>>557517272Brilliant line of thought, exactly the kind of brave reasoning that gave us 6 months of pure vanilla PES15 in 4cc
>>557519108he needs Luigi ASS with TMA
>>557519256>>557519264Plenty of close matchups, decent enough attacking play, some variety between crosses/headers which will be further buffed if I understand correctly, and centre play, plenty of fun stuff luck players doing stupid things in a non-gamebreaking manner, ass-ist
>>557519725There are some issues with 3-4-3 advantage still yeah but it's not glaring and some fixes are already being suggested like buffing acceleration/stamina/phys contact for CBs, def stats for bronzes, footing for fullbacks for better wide play. Nothing too major
dismantle this /nikg/ quickly
4-4-2 gods
i love ntr
i also love gacha vtubers and reddit
i hate ntr but love nts
And I also tried to fix vanilla PES 21
>we need a new UI because we just do okay>*crashes PES*
The absolute state of VGLco
>game crash>ui looks like ass>mr hanny is cutting out like rance's ropes>442 winningeverything that could go wrong today has gone wrong
How many cases does the hanny manager smoke per hour?
>>557521847yes
>>557521847Yes.
Based hanny man is the best thing about this match
/nikg/ is winning
>>557521958>hanny man to nikg
>>557522116KEKAROO
Karabellum trying sliders from another PES in the most center dominated PES.
>>557522484He's being creative man.
I think a UI around the host theme would be cool
442 -1 > 343
Ban TMA and the UI indog already
>>557522679TMA is fineIndog is not
>>557522679trip on, gio
>>557522679hmmmmmmm nyo
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Talk:LAN_Party_the_3rd:_Admins_of_the_Frozen_ThroneDeadline in 6 hours.If you need a time extension, please let me know.Groups going up as soon as deadline hits.Have a nice week, everyone.
/admin/ and vglco in a race for who can make the most decisions with the least amount of thought put into them.
>>557522679I can't believe we're dogging on the indog for pushing something he hasn't tested enough, while watching the most dogshit untested ruleset I've ever seen.
>>557522753I would ban him too along TMA. Just clean house
>>557522878vglco won this about 12 years ago, newfag
>indog is commentatingStill more masculine than yesterday
>>557522857The cracks have formed in VGL aesco.
we love the cellphone song here
>>557524010I'm also taking hrt
What did everyone do for Valentine's?
343sisters not like this....
Defenders are fucking abhorrent
>>557524438Aren't you glad that we are not in PES15?
>>557524438first time watching 21?
>>557524556No, that's why I know they made them even worse.
This indo guy doesn't sound underage or like a twink.
So there's going to be a ruleset townhall after all?
>>557524626asides his shitty mic, he sounds completely fine, it's fucking hysterical, zoomers really just don't learn how to type
>>557524679yeah except it'll be open
>>557524760more balls than tma
>>557524679Who is going to bother with that meme anymore
>>557524793>letting in tma and marcodead on arrival
These teams are actually contending to see who has the worst chants in the vgl. Winner goes on to play love live
>>557525018Banger post
>>557524679We will have weegee ASS after match day today. TMA invited.
>>557525018Final boss is all the screeching chants for /hbr/
>>557525018raped post
>>557525110nah that's you
>>557524984oh ok open except for them then
Weegee ASS Anchor, post your questions and suggestions for the future and LN3 rules
343kek real quiet after this match
wyell wyell wyell
>>557525379Doesn't work when the guy who'd post it is in the middle of play-by-play
>>557525379Will Rabi be on /trick/?
>>557525437>higher shot amount>keeperbabbed>only lost by 1etc
>>557524793>yeah except it'll be ignoredftfy
>>557525518cope
>>557525519no that was the last one that's why I said except
>>557525437Tranventale unironically missed a few winning instructions when copying /v/
>>557525475She is still under contract with /esg/
>just one more patch>just one more ui change>just one more townhall
>>557525379Did the Turk give /nikg/ the performance they deserved?
>>557525707If this is about what /nikg/ deserves then yes
HRTMA voiceMOGGED by CHADhri
>>557525701if you don't like it you can just stop watching
>>557525821Today has twice the testosterone as yesterday.
>>557525821Kek
>CMFs man-marking the other team's fullbacksWhat is bro cooking
>>557526164what fullbacks bro.
>>557525468Kot wins and saves Doro
Has a corner header ever gone in on PES21?
>>557527149So you don't know
>>557527302No that's why I'm asking.
>>557527386maybe on planet retard
>>557527149yes, I saw one in testing on this ruleset recentlyt. not even in LC
is the /trick/ manager here?I want to know when are we getting the roster poll, thanks
>>557528289KYS troonflesia
>>557528289too busy mercing other teams
They are calling it the most astroturfed team of all time
too busy sucking off lolcows, and no, I won't reply to that fag
>>557528350who?
>>557528442thousands of aes requests will be ignored
When does /1992/ play? I'm in the mood for some drama.
I feel bad for the /pg/ guy, this is what taba left him with
>>557528289Unrelated but the picrel creature became the new yukkuriThat includes abyuse too
>>557528442Not astroturfed enough to get in early
>343winslol
ok, why is there such hostility towards /trick/ I thought we liked rabi here...
>>557528869lolcows like flesia, ubersimp, and yonk
>>557528869astroturfed girlslop not even the manager plays. Rabi is too good for you.
we do like rabi here, your backwaters general on the other hand...
>>557528869it's astroturfed hate by vglco
>>557528939>not even the manager playsnigga what manager the team doesnt even exist
>>557528442But enough about /uma/
2huminati wins again
>>557528289>Can you tell him if we can participate in the next invitational I'll make the poll. Otherwise it's when we can sign for vgl26 (edited)
>>557528289Kill yourself, thanks
>>557529314>ratflesia pretending he doesn't shit up this thread
that was probably THE most retarded team i think ive ever seen what was that match? im not surprised the manager just gave up and went 4-2-4
it's alright guys, feigning interest for a team has always been the norm here
>>557528869/trick/ is a cheap ripoff of Rabi
>>557529492>taba's team switches to a non-343 to throw the game to uphold TMA's nerf 343 agendanooticing
>no commentators No dimes circuit
>>557529814No dimes teams.
>>557529807their 3-4-3 was just as bad as their other formations, if not worse somehow
time for troonsoup to -ack
>>557528939>>557528954>>557529803we're just following Rabi steps
>>557529892It was a team built for 4atb. If anything it shows how with this format double A's are useless now.
>>557529814why would anyone commentate this clown league with z-list teams
lolcows actually believed /4ccg/ about ASS kwabbypow!
I lol on her cow til she kekypow
Troonsoup will single handedly be responsible for us getting stuck with 343winslol for vgl proper
>>557530784Yes, nobody knew that 343 was good on 21 except for the lolcow that raped you
>>557530615soupy said this word for word
Hi,I want to give a reminder that there's a month until the signups for the Test Cup V 18.1 are closed.So if you want to get the PES18 experience again after 7 years, come and sign up!https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Talk:Test_Cup_V_18.1Also, the ruleset got some small revisions and this should be the final version of what will be ran.
speaking of snake oil salesman
>>557528289I'm done with wagieing so I'll answer directly too. I don't know if I can call myself "the manager" yet since I'm not verified, but as soon as denko is back I'll ask for it.As for the roster poll, I wanted to wait until the vgl as I learn AES and even basic modelling to give /trick/ the best I can. This is also why I've been taking requests and helping those who ask. But I've decided that playing an invitational to gauge more interest if given the chance is the best option.Lastly, you're way more likely to find me on /trick/.
>>557531480:thumbsdown:
/lisfig/ playing like shit.
343bros?
>>557531601looking forward to it,I actually asked in /trick/ back then, but it was moving so fast that it got ignored, so I went here.
>submit 343>losebros? this is not how its supposed to work...
>>557532049>>557532174/llsifg/ manager absolutely does not understand how a narrow short passing 343 is supposed to work
You lost to /gbfg/!!!
343keks...
so /gbfg/ > /llsifg/ and since /pg/ lost to this /llsifg/, /gbfg/ > /pg/
>offense isn't working>increases SR>on pes21What did they mean by this?
>>557532246If it was during one of the schizoid meltdowns then I tend to drift off until it ends.
Imagine being the guy that lost to /gbfg/ couldn't be me.
troonsoup on suicide watch
*stumbles in with a nightly shaped belly*
Waluigi league.
>>557534156>we outta nightlies
Where'd all the coomplaining go?
>>557535428no one is watching
>>557535428343 lost so theres nothing to complain about21 fixed
>go to download the Weegee DLC>lmao you hit your transfer limitTime for an hour long piss break
>>557535428People already gave up.
>>557535428permaqualie team lost with a bad 343 so we've all accepted that pes21 will be considered solved by vglco
>>557535428Patched out
>>557535428>/ksg/ - /psg/>/gbfg/ - /llsifg/No one is watching these matches
>>557536146Yeah where's /lcg/ /bag/ /esg/ and /nikg/?
>>557536146only for the first one, the second one was fun/dogshit to watch
>>557535428unironic piss break matches
/domg/ masterclass time
Holy shit imagine being the guy that lost to /gbfg/ or the guy that lost to /ksg/
The heroes of the VGL are about to play
Another crash
>>557537563nice rulerinos tma
>>557537191yes, /domg/ are about to play
The good guys are losing
BROOOOOH :DDDD
Why is rapebird such a jobber vros?
Cipher's PES wouldn't crash.
>>557539261typo in the editor, he's actually rapedbird
Instead of board leagues, someone should make an inter-board general tournament that any general from any board can join. I myself will be submitting /deenz/
>>557539693/deenz/ what sir?
>>557539693/ck/ can sustain its own league
>>557539693/precure/ here we go
year of LimKWAB
>>557539693you mean like AGL or DBC? just submit your meme team there
SACKED IN THE MORNING
DCInside has been really silent for this weegee tournament.
>>557540505they have a page up
>>557540819Forester Bob is GAY
>>557540852Of course he is, living alone in a forest does strange things to a man
>>557539693Wouldn't be a bad option.I want a mix of 4cc, vgl and memevitational teams.>>557540852It appears so.
I opened the stream and somehow identified streak in 0.1 second
>>557542627OOOOOOOOOOO MORTYYYYYYYY
thoughts on day 2?
>>557544716Abysmal dogshit
>>557544716it's not over yet
>>557542627damn im cooked
>>557544716It's aight
pes 21 headers are like>abysmal dogshit header >abysmal dogshit header, but backwards
>>557539950I think the point is it being official, with teams representing real generals with fans.
>>557544716Better than yesterday
>>557544716Worse than yesterday
>>557544716Same as yesterday
>>557544716trash
/gbpen/!
>spend the day getting 21 working>webm relatedI guess it's time to upgrade my shit
>>557546428Based /akg/bro
>>557546520Are you trying to make PES 21 run on an iPhone 4?
>>557546627This was a below average setup when I built it like 6 years ago and doesn't help I'm on Linux so I'm forcing the game through wine
>>557544716Two cups of this dogshit incoming
>>557546750Try using dxvk, if you aren't already.
>and the crowd goes wild
>/pcrg/>/2hug/>/domg/>/gbpen/Thoughts on the weegee 6-pointers?>/nikg/>/pg/>/psg/>/smbg/Thoughts on the weegee 0-pointers?
>>557547261Beat bad/worse teamsAre bad teams.
>>557547261pcrg is 100% dying on 6 points2hug is confirmed on their ridiculous goal differencedomg existsgbpenis lmaodogshit teamdogshit teamdogshit teamdogshit team, but also dead
>>557547038I was using that, but it turns out that I needed to enable Esync and Fsync to not tank performance
>>557547780Surely one of /nikg/ and /pcrg/ can beat an auto
>>557547846Very good. Nice ball choice.
>>557547960nikg can't even beat 2024 Chelsea, bro
>>557547261>/pcrg/>/2hug/Competent exports in abysmal dogshit groups>/domg/Dong too strong, pls nerf>/gbpen/angryjoe.jpg>/nikg/Too experimental>/pg/Manager's first time on 21>/psg/No Rabbit Hole Miku, no points>/smbg/Defense is okay but it can't convert attacks
Reply to this post with images you want to see in the weegee ASS
>>557547261I like seeing /domg/ doing well after they got aborted.I need to actually play Dominions again. Maybe one day I'll get over my fear of multiplayer.
>>557548172
>>557548253If there was ever a girl to respond with "fat bitch" to, this is her.
How hard are they going to cope about 21 in this ASS
>>557548571Dumb bitch not even good for paizuri, there are 700 hags in ZZZ that look and act better than you
>we'll get ASS for some worthless invitational of the eternal shitters before we a get a ruleset townhall
>>557548828>Freaki commisioning porn nowDire.
>>557548758Like if that would help in any way. Toki will come out of the woodwork to say everything is fine, they will ask their master TMA to make some fixes and ship it for next cup.
>they're actually in the ass vcwhat the mickey mouse shit is this
>>557549057This walkcycle would have crashed a NES.
where is the ASS stream sirs
>>557549904I ate those food
Fake ass
So is there actually going to be ASS or are they just taking the piss?
Mr. Anon... You have no ASS.
>Weegee rules say nothing about how many cards players can have>add 10 to my keeper and see what the AATF says>you can only have 7 non-free cards lolMeme ruleset
>>557550789Yes it does?
Where are the ties
I am currently piecing the ASS together by making sense of whatever is posted in the comms channel
>>557550945I'm retarded for missing that since I was looking for "cards" and not "skills", however 7/8 non-free cards with a bunch of free COM/cards/trick cards is still ridiculously high
I don't like that Cipher gets to have a say in the discussion when him shilling TMA's fixes is half the reason we are in this situation.
why is ASS just /uma/shit
>>557551595cause you didn't vote for the /gig/ emote
>>557551595Always has been
no ass found
So is defense too bad or too good?
>>557555310mona facesitting
>>557555310Can something be done about fixing clearances? A lot of chances yesterday were more due to terrible defending instead of elaborate offensive play.
>Weegee ass was all just shitpostingAnother broken promise from vglco...
I am voicelessI am raped I am /4ccg/
>>557555310How much did that sponsorship cost?
divegrasses leader has sacrificed life, limb, time and effort to bring us this perfect rule set and these subhumans are bringing up 17 and wide play and trying to run gssbb
I love my wife
Whose idea was to make the most raped person have to take feedback?
Weegee ASS VOD??
>>557557423Why do people always post the shittiest DeviantArt-tier 2hu art here and in the Cytube?
>>557557225Silence VTL subhuman
>>557558098I wonder.
>>557558198you sound raped
bad commissioners:>NOOO MY HECKING RULERINOS!!! IT'S YOUR FAULT AND THE STREAMER PC AND CONTROLLER SETTINGS!!! NOOO!!!!!good commissioners:>u r raped lol
>>557558098I just save pics that I like
>>557558527This is why Nomo has a higher approval rating
Saw Gio defending this role play class building meme shit system. I know it is bad now.
I don't know what's happening anymore because everyone is having a melty
>>557558703TMA unironically melted down after 1 day of VGL, VTL must be soft as shit.
>>557558718the alternative is patchingdo you really want to see that?
>>557558956Most don't care enough or have the feeling Triangle will ban them out of spite.
>>557558990Yes. Put a patch we already used before and be done with it. If it was up to me we wouldn't even be using 21 in the first place, we are here because BoB really wanted to. You would have an easier time shilling 18 than this rigid shit.
>>557558956Isn't VTL the place where he banned all managing because he couldn't take the slightest hint of negativity?
>>557559120Okay but nothing directed at TMA has not been directed at VGLco?
So all of this shit is set in stone for VGL?
Deadline has passed, many teams have asked for extensions (but they're still gay)Group Stage and Hat Pick now on the Wiki.https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/LAN_Party_the_3rd:_Admins_of_the_Frozen_Throne#Group_StageSee you all on Saturday!
>>557559806no retard that's what these invitationals are for, a testbed
>>557559806NO. WHY ARE SO MANY OF YOU RETARDED
>>557559527If you ask /vt/ they'll say live management is too tryhard and too much menuing which screws with gameplay flow. t.Someone who tried to argue in favor of it in the most recent gameday thread.
Still TMAny?
>>557559806You don't get it. THIS time we will put thought into the ruleset for sure.
>>557559984The truth is in the middle, livemanaging should be allowed but heavily limited.
>>557560202What does thought look like
explain to me like im autistic why do we need 178 cbs with 72 in one stat and 73 in another and 77 and 68 and 67 and a bunch of other numbers instead of heights being in multiples of 5 and stats in multiples of 11 unless you go with a bufflet hight system since you add 5
>>557560332Waiting till the testbeds are half over to actually ask people what they think while replying to critics with passive aggressive quips?
>>557560485These are the numbers I landed on after 30 hours of testing, the last final 1-2s are not super important though I do advise being careful with them. I did the last few minor value changes individually looking for how the players interact. Though, I will also say if you do everything uniformly, you will also not scale things properly IMO - PES is not balanced and that's why there is, for just a single example, the variable GK stats
>>557561003You're right, they've not been as passive aggressive as they usually are. I guess TMA is filling that role for them.
>>557560280mabel isn't in the vtl so there is literally no problem
>>557561082I love how he says 30 hours like that's supposed to be impressive.
>>557561487Doesn't Mabel make most of the VTL autopilots? It's basically an abstract testing farm for him.
>>557561758it's a mix of /sp/, /u/ and /mlp/ as far as I am aware.
>>557562274Cringe
>it's another PES 21 cycle where we are subject to an individual trying to reshape PES into his ideal formplease enough of this rerun
>>557559907No. VGLco is retarded that's why I have to ask.
I just realized that Sou, despite being a lazy Mexican, is the most employed league commissioner.
>>557563784They have answered your question several times nigga you are retarded
>>557563925Not more retarded than you, who needs some other league's commissioner to fix some stats for you
>>557564064I don't officiate shit nigga I'm just calling you a retard for not paying attention and then acting like its okay to be a retard for anonymous brownie points
>>557563864You know shit is bad when the lazy guy outperforms everyone else lmao
>>557563864The funny pebbles removal is not going to pay itself.
>>557563925tbf they say a lot of shit they go back on.
>>557564405How am I supposed to know that they will though, I'm just telling you what's been said.
>>557564064Trvke
>>557564064You'll never believe where the VGL1 ruleset came from
Had to do a double take when I saw this.https://ifunny.co/picture/hWhTXe97D?s=cl
>>557561082>30 hours to come up with voodoo
weegee ASS rentry?
Still TMAny
Nomo I'm posting it here so TMA and his goons don't have a target on my back but if you do a rules hall don't invite him in please
>>557566789nomo is one of tma's goons though
>>557566789This. He already derailed the conversation again to his fucking 21 life's work bullshit.
The issue with patching was that everyone wanted to make their own ideal game version even if other people didn't like itThe issue with statting is that nobody knows what anything does anymore and everyone hates each other
>>557560485Remember how we used to bully /mlp/ for the PRECISELY CALIBRATED thing? We need to bring that back
These rule arguments are abysmal dogshit but it is a little comedic how Akwabri is treating LN like an elite cup in terms of prestige.
>>557567587>Akwabri is treating LN like an elite cup in terms of prestige.would love to know what schizophrenia led you to this conclusion
I was in the weegee ass and I can tell you guys that it was a denko mukbang stream
>>557567587vglco PLEASE don't rape my girlslop invitational I care so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>557567785Is that why he kept posting pictures of Pokemon
If you are planning on staying on 21, just bite the bullet and ban 3-4-3, it sucks, but I don't think there's other way.
>>557567785What was he eating? I'm trying to synch my intestinal flora to his so my bathroom can smell the same in order to get into his mindset and understand why he picked PES 21.
>>557567817>girlslopyou sound raped
>>557561082>30 hours of testingDude, this is how much I put on testing one export for one team on one ruleset in a 3 week tournament and I still get blindsided by game to game variance. You're trying to divine 15 stat values down to a precise integer value, that will be used by anywhere from 32 to 48 teams that will run all kinds of retarded tactics known to man.
>>557567197>everyone wanted to make their own ideal game version even if other people didn't like itTHIS IS EXACTLY WHAT TMA IS DOING
>>55756791420 pounds of fried chicken and an absurd amount of korean instant noodles
>>557566789starting to think this anon was onto something about TMA's goons
>>557567914Barbecue bacon burger and a large order of fries and an orange soda with no ice and a piece of hot apple pie
>>557568230Good taste
>>557568217Not hard to figure out who are the VTL managers supporting this.
>>557568001but it isn't
Bowling is literally MINDBREAKING TMA on every front
>>557568750It literally is, he even assigned stats to players so they perform "the way they are supposed to" in his vision.
>>557568985he's said repeatedly how you could make the ruleset more defensive without destroying it
How did they even let this get to the point of being this much of a shitshow, we've had like 4 people poking and prodding through the code for a week and weegee has a random stat assortment decided by a VGL manager that lost basically every match he ever managed on /uma/.
>>557569094TMA had 2 invitationals for his ruleset, so it's good enough for VGLco
>>557569094TMA say it is the way it is for a reason, and his 30 testing hours, so please don't touch anything. Not even a cm on those CBs.
>>557569248Hundreds of testing hours, only for it to completely fall apart at the mere mention of bronze medals existing.
>>557569248>Not even a cm on those CBs.
>>557569346To be fair it was only supposed to work in a league where he makes all the teams.
>>557569346>>557569508samefag
>>557569580rapedfag
>>557569580*rapes you*Now say that again, chuck.
>>557569580raped vtl fag
>>557569580you got me :)
>>557569580stop pretending to be me
>>557566789vglco needs to do a rules hall where they just invite a small group at a time, preferably stating with the weegee managers only. If he actually wants to hear manager opinions, do it an environment where you don't have nonmanagers with agendas chiming in every other point.
>why are the CBs so short, make them bigger>tall CBs destroy wide play on 21 (explained in 4 paragraphs)>who uses wide play on 21, headers are shit who cares>wide play needs to exist to have any chance against 343s and the variety is nice (explained in 5 paragraphs with autistic screenshots that have squiggly lines drawn that don't explain anything)>>the CBs are too short, they need tweakedRepeat for the entire weekend
>>557569580Distraction from it rightly being pointed out that no one thought for 5 seconds that bronze players being physically unable to play midfield with 52 defensive prowess.
>>557570052Oh yeah true I didnt explain the lines from earlier, my bad. I was wrapped up in it
This entire thread?All me
>>557570051Genuinely, Nomo needs to just ask every manager their thoughts in a 1-on-1, compile it all into a spreadsheet and post it publicly before any discussion happens. The town hall failed because everyone was focused on arguing against each other, doing shit like whatever Sangen was doing with the centrist shit, or just not even replying at all!
The important question is, how is all this being handled in terms of KWABoty nominations?
>>557570051This, and if aKWABri say anything useful is that we don't need TMA in there, we don't need him to explain anything. After all VGLco are the ones pushing this format so they should control the conversation. TMA talks too much and won't let them do it, he basically acts like he is the guy in charge whenever we are talking about the ruleset. It is impressive the amount of messages he posts during a conversation.
>>557570393Yeah I forgot I was going to say, "or just dm managers" It is not the first time they've done that.
>>557570410Currently gaining KWABoty points>TMA>Denko>Akari>Luigi Circuit spoon (Karabellum)Currently losing KWABoty points>/2hug/ management
>>557570508why would having the person who came up with the ruleset explaining the ruleset that he made be a bad thing?Like unironically.
>>557570715Bowling-tier post
Spooning Luigi is a good thing since the winner gets their team deleted
Had a dream that Kara was banned from the cup and everybody agreed it was made 200% better immediately
>>557570795It lacks "!!" or "!?" to be that guy.
Everyone say hello to my new /mjg/ wife Laasti!
Is there a single manager /4ccg/ likes
>>557571159If they aren't mentioned every thread, they are more liked than they aren't.
>>557570779Because any criticism will become a conversation that will turn into what we are seeing in general:>people asking TMA why this (the reason is voodoo, "trust me" "I MEAN IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT DO IT BUT")>managers vs TMA>the worst part is that VGLco doesn't even know why they copied this so they will want to have him there to do their job.I'm hoping for a townhall were we decide if we use this or not in the first place, we don't need 500 posts of just TMA explaining his vision.
If a manager has more messages in the 'cord than the former /zzz/ manager, they are a lolcow
>>557571121Your wife is a Finnish man.
>>557570393Right now I think this is what he's doing, at least from my experience. Don't know if he's reached out to multiple people yet.
>>557571402Fug :DDDDDDD
>>557571290'ccg likes the /gfg/ manager?sick
>>557571472We think he's a creep who takes random pictures of women from afar, but other than that he's fine. Zily on the other hand...
>>557571159the /trv/ guys seem cool
>>557571159If I named a manager who only has positive things said about them someone would make it their mission to shit on them every thread from now on.
>>557571305>I'm hoping for a townhall were we decide if we use this or not in the first place, we don't need 500 posts of just TMA explaining his visionthis
>>557570715/pg/ manager should be on there after this weekend
>>557570410Still TMAny
You just don't get TMA's vision, you are just too low IQ for it, it's his LITERAL life's work and nobody will truly understand it so he needs to explain it in autistic detail, It will literally change everything you know about PES you just can't see it like he can.
how does verification usually go, like what do they ask you and shit
>>557572191they just asked for a dick pic from me and i was free to go
>>557572191we're not allowed to saythey change the process for every manager so they can know exactly who leaked what happensthe only thing they consistently do is penis inspection
>>557572191If you play the game and use the thread.
>>557572191>What's your favorite uma musume?>What's your cock size?>Should futas have balls or not?
>we don't want boring no goal matches, score more goals>we don't want high scoring matches, score less goals >we can't agree on what the middle ground for goals actually is
>>557572191>Do you play the thing your general discusses?>Explain some meme from your general to prove you browse itThat's about it.
idk
>>557572325>>557572310They asked me for my cock verification pick, and when I posted it Nomo just kek reacted me and I was told I failed...
>>557563864The sad part is that he's not even actually employed, he just does whatever job comes his way and disappears for a month
>>557572518Good morning, aoba! Fix your fucking team instead of asking Grok about PES21 patching!
>>557572191You're getting the Zoer treatment pal
>>557572191I had to explain my fetishes in a very detailed essay complete with photographic examples. I wonder if they left it in the verification channel.
>They ask for cock verification>Send a pic my pussy instead (pic related, it's my pussy)>They rig the next VGL for me
>>557572963>Hairy pussyLewd
>>557572343>Should futas have balls or not?Vagina, dick, and balls or I don't want them
Suppose the winner for vgl26 HAS to be a gacha and it can't be one with a vgl win already, who would you rather it be gun to your head?
>>557572686Cartel it is.
>>557573150/fgog/
>>557573150/hbr/
>>557573150 /@/
>>557573319literally no one is saying this wtf
>>557573150There's only one Sugoi option.
>>557573150/gfg/
>>557573373that's why I want it to happen
>>557573150/trick/
>>557573150S tier: /@/, /alg/, /fgog/, /gfg/, /uma/A tier: /kfg/, /mjg/B tier: /bag/, /pcrg/, /gig/C tier: /hsrg/, /nikg/, /psg/, /snowg/ D tier: /pmmm/, /zzz/F tier: /esg/, /gbpen/, /hbr/
>>557574119>S tier: /uma/kekypow
>>557574407You are right, /uma/ is SSS tier
>>557574119>/zzz/ anything but the lowest tierkekypow
>>557574119lolcow approved list
>>557574407We love /uma/ here faggot
>>557575103/uma/ porn maybe
>>557574809Raped.
>>557574119average ASS groupie list
>>557574119Bump /pcrg/ one tier and that would be my list.
>>557558098I want to bury my face between those fat, sweaty melons
>>557574119>/mjg/ /bag/ /pcrg/ that highlol, lmao even
>>557574119S Tier should only be /@/ and maybe /kfg/ because they are the least offensive one of the teams there.
>>557570410still collie
my pc when it's time to fap: lolipowmy dick when it's time to cum: cummypow
>>557577558cunnysoup...
>>557571159The /xs/ manager because they are new and test using a steam deck which is hilarious
Frame mogging/maxxxing should be the new /fit/ gold
>>557582060I genuinely hope the guy keeps doing it and wins a cup.
>>557576724/kfg/ manager has a meltdown in chat every time he loses.
>>557584676Who cares about what managers do
>>557584676Then you'll have no problem bringing up the logs.
>>557584824After /kfg/ lost to a 10 man /hgg2d/ with a goal lead.
>>557585283>Imagine being this much of a BITCH you remember something like thisBro what are you doing.
>>557585604I keep every transgression by every VGL manager in my book of grudges. Feel free to request one.
>>557585834Considering that one counts as a transgression, the book must be huge. No thanks, I'm good.
>>557585834Who's the manager that meets the bar for lolcow that has the least transgressions
>>557573150/pmmm/ with the gook unable to watch because he is banned.
>>557585981/4ccg/ might not like it, but Sangen.
>>557586476they just started
>>557585981you got people who get called out as lolcows just for not liking /4ccg/ (understandable), like yonkyou got people who get called out as lolcows for doing nearly nothing offensive, like DENand you get people who are categorized as lolcows just because a schizo is obsessed with them, like soup
>>557585981>>557586476>but trangenDefinitely not trangen>>557587381>t. soup
>>557588063Feel free to tell me who you are and I'll send you my cock as proof.>>557587381Yonk is whiny and complained for years that he didn't have enough time to take care of /smbg/, stepped up to caretake and complained every league about his auto. He's the new Fifz.DEN is that guy you probably know that acts smart but if you have any knowledge on any subject he's speaking on, you can tell he's actually just retarded and he acts snarky when called out on it.The soup chose a bad team to get involved with and is a managerial disaster, but he keeps quiet during off season. However, he does love to make himself part of the show when it comes to ASS.
>>557588869soups a community man, he loves to put on a show. i appreciate somebody doing little bits of art and getting involved. but 4chan, as it is, hates people who do stuff like this.
>>557588869>I'll send you my cockHow would that disprove anything?
>>557589050Soup is retarded for harmless. The other people he mentioned maybe said something dumb on discord but it's all so meaningless. It seems that VGL is a community where some retard is going to hate you (and your team) for no reason. Permanently online retards do be like that.
tranny defence force hours
>>557589169Already backing down from receiving proof that I'm not Sangen?>>557589369>The other people he mentioned maybe said something dumb on discord but it's all so meaningless. It seems that VGL is a community where some retard is going to hate you (and your team) for no reason. Permanently online retards do be like that.What do you think lolcows are?
>>557589579Where did I say you were trangen? You said trangen was the least lolcow and I said definitely not>receiving proof that I'm not trangenHow would that disprove it when trangen is a man?
>soup schizo>trangen schizowho would win
>>557589913$20 bet that it's the same person.
I'd say I don't really care but I get called a lolcow for this for some reason
lolcow is just the local term for "somebody that I don't like"
Only lolcows care about lolcows
lolcows always need a scapegoat, don't you remember the KWABotY and how they pulled a Caesar with Turkbellum?
>>557589913Neither are schizos if they are right.>>557590163This. It's always been shit-flinging among them to reduce each other's infamy.
bread doko
I'm glad that the cup has mostly forgotten about my existence and don't have to read the thread flinging shit in my direction.
>>557590495I'll bake tomorrow. Maybe walnut bread.
>>557588869Do a lolcow tierlist then with the VGL 25 teams
>>557590397>if they are right.And that's the thing, they haven't proven themselves to be right yet.
>>557590397They're schizos because of how obsessed they are, not because of whether they're wrong or not.
>>557590693Is the /vg/ league tiermaker still around
>>557590710What claims for each haven't been proven to be right yet?>>557590775That'd be true if it wasn't mostly in retaliation of both being namedropped by posters somehow not deemed schizos for doing that. I've yet to see one thread where the word "trangen" appears but "sangen" doesn't, even though the latter is basically never ever relevant. Soup is a bit different because he involves himself often and has more history brought up, but the principle stands.Posters criticizing either of them don't make them 'schizos'.
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>>557590569Same. I didn't like being a meme.
>>557565162Yeah, that's not the former /vg/ manager if you were wondering. Probably just some gbfg fag who's a fan of the wind element.
>>557594024That's Half
>>557594147Oh
