Previous Thread: >>557593316Nioh 3 is out: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3681010/Nioh_3/
I have defeated the brotherlord and brought honor to the shogun nation.
>>557762412cool scar how did you do that
>>557760842https://www.nexusmods.com/games/nioh3/mods?sort=createdAtyou might need to register to see adult mods, if you aren't already
Is there a guardian skill more based than lmao2karp?
>>557762565Nta but>Face paint>Turn off symmetry for eye
New PlayStation trailer. Also confirms that it's a timed console exclusive, so there's potential for Xbox and maybe Switch players to get it after 6 months.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hf6gQkGEJo
>>557759768but dude muh generic snoy movie game ripoff will make us billions!The only reason I don't hate ROR is that it focused on human fights, which I kinda miss since Nioh 1 as it feels like those fights got worse in 2/3.
>>557762565Two big scar stickers and one big red oval to get the color right.It's weird how you can't remove one eyebrow despite it having the "seperate brows" check.
>>557762103Which yokai drops the fucking spinning fireball spell? I keep seeing it but have never found the yokai that drops it, I have fire shot, familiar, shikigami and hellshot, but I can't find the big fireball
>Focused strike gets an upgrade that extends the charge for a massive increase in damage>no hyperarmor though, get fucked lmaoSure, it's still decent when half charged, but at that point, why use the upgrade?
>>557763106Fire familiars? Enenra soul.
>>557762580This seems nicehttps://www.nexusmods.com/nioh3/mods/50Do mods disable co-op stuff?
>>557762451I see, thanks anon
>>557763342No, the big fireball that flies forward from Nioh 2.
>>557763198How is the damage of the uncharged version? If it's comparable to a charged normal focused strike it may still be better.
What's a good place to farm Yasakani?
>2 hours of crucible spamming and not a single odachi dropthis shit is giving me secret art farming flashbacks already
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>enemy bases respawn after some timewtf
>NuribotokeWhat a pile of shit
>>557763547i think the normal is better imoless charge time, can release when neededeven if it were 50% increase in dmg you can get 2 regular off before it and then dodge or cancel
>>557763391nah you can still coop, i use that mod too
>>557763391>https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh3/mods/50I haven't tested it myself but according to comments it works fine in coop and anyone who doesn't have the mod can still see the armor
>>557763894I just got that ending too. I'm curious about dark Himiko stalking in the night.
>>557763547A fully charged normal strike takes out almost 1/4 hp and knocks down the hatchet pokemon master, a semicharged upgrade won't knock him down but the damage is almost the same.It's pretty much sword of mediation, but you can't move and have no hyperarmor, so it's useless in active combat.
>>557763624>2 drop right after i make this post>theyre both for cascading wave (the only crucible skill i already have)FUCK OFF
>have to watch a video guide how to use the store house
finished NG using odachi onlydo i use ninja 1kat, 2kat or tonfas next?
>>557763463Uuh, explosive shot maybe?Koroka soul. Good luck, there's 4 of them in the whole game and they don't respawn.
>get to ng+>every revenant is a ninja that immediately tries to sloth mesome things never change
>>557764832Thank you, no wonder I couldn't fucking find it.
>>557762103Don't play this shite but what is the name of that monster I want to find porn of her.
>>557764626Axe/Spear full constitution kino
>>557764832I may have accidentally resting righted mine so now what...
What is the best place to be farming for more Yasakani?
>help host kill hiruko with other summon>wait for host to initiate the end of the fight with hiruko just waiting there with empty health bar>hiruko's lasers kill both me and the other summon at the same time while host is still standing thereFuck this made me laugh
>>557765786Chaos Witch Quelaag
kasha's ka shas
>>557766256NG+ lesser crucible next to the Path of Koyama shrine
That laser on the way up to the last death veil arena keeps killing my hosts bros
>>557767436I was surprised that I first tried Kasha. She took me several tries in Nioh 2. Still a legitimately 10/10 boss fight at least.
>>557765679Why do people keep using sloth when it's more efficient to use the slot for electric magic to apply the status does the same thing, among other effects + is one step closer to confusion?
>>557767436Now canonically a whore who fucked gaijins for money and despises men generallyI can't believe she is like this
>>557768106giwtwm
What do these numbers mean?
>>557768080because their tiny brains learned SLOTH GOOD in nioh 1.
>>557768080Sloth is safer to apply when playing with a summon or coop, but also because people are silly
>>557766689Thank you.
>>557768440esoteric mysticism
Did Hiddy generate anima as quickly as Iemitsu does with his spirit force? Holy fuck by the end i can throw nearly infinite guardian powers.
>>557768798yes
>>557768080Host dies by the time I apply lightning
>>557768761>>557768440thanks I'm retarded I somehow missed the sword icon, I thought the number had something to do with the samurai icon
Takechiyo needs to find our Ronin, get some swimming lessons from them, then go back in time to teach both Hiddy and William how to jump and swim.
>It's been three games of this supernatural bullshit, I'm so tired
>it's the bandit bro from roninfuck...
Crucibles are so damn cool... on the outside.
I hope more side quests in DLC involve time jumping, that medicine side quest was cute.
>>557770507They are cool inside too. Pretty fun dungeons.I just wish the spinning tops were indestructible, it's too easy to just gun them down.
>go back to normie difficulty to kill demon of sneed because i forgot>only bloodedge demone ive ever seen is here>kill demon of sneed in 5 seconds before it can even finish dialoging at me >try bloodedge demone>swings 1 time and instantly kills me>try like 5 times and same thing ermm wtf have i done? is this thing too powerful?
>>557770847probably difficulty agnostic
>>557770986ive killed like 1000 remnants for their gear i think it may be unkillable unless i zenkai boost
>>557770514I was expecting a lot more stuff to happen like barriers disappearing and stuff if you dealt with them further in the past. It feels half-baked.
The longer i look at this design, the weirder it looks. Fucking amazing.Great fight too.
>>557771468who/where is that
>>557771290>I was expecting a lot more stuff to happenThis for most of the game.>It feels half-bakedIt definitely is. I hope they put in more stuff with updates while waiting for the DLC.
>>557771546Demon of Obsession, a semi secret boss near Okita's castle.
>>557771157I think it resets after a while.
Awakening shouldn't be a mastery
any place i can find good sliders
>>557772417What kind of a look are you after?
>>557772487cute females
>>557768761What
>>557772554Rip. I was going to see if I could cook something up for you, but I just fucking fail at female character creation in 3.
>>557773020thank you for attempting to try anon,I'm still trying myself i just think i need a very cute face first so i can just mold as i go
>okita teleports across the zone to oneshot the hostThird time this has happened to me
>>557772957we just dont know anon
>>557773142This isn't mine, but I thought it was pretty cute:N3S-dWUwQp7peja&V
>>557772417Only place i know is glamurai
>>557773408thanks anon this is what i needed
Retarded question - If I cast one familiar, then another familiar, does the second replace the first or do they both become active at the same time but only the second visually
>>557773408she cute
>>557773726Replace
>>557773894Thanks. I just saw a host cast one over the other in his pre-boss buff sequence and got really confused.
>>557773408cute
I know you soul extract the (+1) type armour for the azure stuff, but is there anything else I should do?
>>557774106Sudama blessing
>>557771468Envy probably has the coolest fight but was the easiest of the three by far
>>557774573wait what
>>557774858Shrine -> Blessing -> Sudama BlessingIt lets you weight drop weights towards specific equipment pieces
>>557770368We don't have his skill for odachi though which is actually infuriating. There's several new skills from RotR they're either withholding for DLC or just arbitrarily left behind.
>>557775065I want Okita's moveset for 1kat. He has an ichimonji and that ridiculous frontal stab combo.Although i do really like that your own 1kat moveset makes it feel you evenly match him unlike Ronin where he's just an over the top special snowflake.
What does "a strong negative ki is rampant somewhere" mean? I've seen it pop up twice while doing coop in crucibles
>>557763921and minor crucibles
>A stealth from titles >C stealth on accessories>C+ stealth from last ninja set>damage increase based on stealth from last ninja setIs this as strong as it sounds?
Is co-op easier to find now? There was something in the patch notes about it.
>>557776675There was a bizarre region lock that should be gone now and allow global matchmaking like Nioh 2
>>557772072Should have been given after the last level of onmyo mastery.
How do I get here. Hardest part of the game.
>have to dl some program and do a bunch of bs to install textures>the textures are shitWhy are the mods for this game so garbage compared to 2? For 2 you just used the mod loader and it worked for everything.
>>557777563Do your side quests faggot
Horse fag is like what we it took Lu bu from wo long and made the fight bad
>>557768798It had to get nerfed several times. I remember in nioh 2 I literally did >axe high stance strong attack >OP yatsu skill>axe high stance strong attack>yatsu skill>axe high stance strong attack >yatsu skillAnd I tried doing a guardian spirit spam build in this but it’s mega garbage
hide is CHAD chiyo is KEK
had no idea you could keep the clan stuff when switching and just pick whatever you want lole
I recall there being something about a location that could only be accessed through double jumping and some midair combo in the demov that led to a ninja or samurai lock, is that still the case in the full game? And if so, where is it?
>>557779140Wasn't it just sequence breaking to get to the raiju or some loot in the rift? I think they patched it.
>>557779338I may be mixing it up with some other location, but I have vague memories of someone posting a video about accessing the upper floor of a ruined building that way?
>>557776281Idk how useful the bonus is, note that Damage based on Weight caps out to 4% more damage even if wearing Tatenashi so who knows how much Stealth would give in damage. Maybe next time I go for inventory cleaning I can test it out if I've the full set?>>557779023What is the max clan rank/how much glory is needed? Would love to get clan bonuses built up for my builds (currently fujiwara for seals as they'll need all the help).
>>557779690not sure about how much is needed but you can go offline to see the max rank effecti think its minister
>>557779523Yeah, in the rift. You're not supposed to get there before you have Oh, but you could tonfa jump up there before they patched in a fence before release.I think the loot was level 90-100, so nothing major.
>bring in wo long enemies>they bring this guy>the timing on the burst counter is unchangedhard wall
Hello /nig/lets, I have some tech to share.Dual Swords, Cestus, and Spear all have attack skills that can be bound to Ki Pulse or Forward+Ki Pulse. You can Frost Moon into any other stance after the Ki Pulse attack by double inputting the desired Frost Moon stance. You cannot Ki Pulse -> Frost Moon while remaining in the same stance. This is unbelievably strong for all three of these weapons but mastering it on Dual Swords is particularly abusive.
ARRGG GODDAMN TAKEDA CLAN GIVE ME YOUR ARMOR SETS
>>557779997>cannot Ki Pulse -> Frost Moon while remaining in the same stanceI meant Ki Pulse Attack -> Frost Moon. I also just discovered Spear Flourish is an outlier that can cancel into same-stance Frost Moon. The other two can't.
how would you guys feel if the first DLC would instead be changed into having no story, and is just a dedicated fleshed out roguelite mode in hell where you get to meet and fight all the nioh bosses so far AND their armor sets?
>>557780190absolutely fucking thrilled, please stop making "story" content for DLCs and just unload a shit ton of gameplay content like enemies, bosses, or new weapons/skills
If you sign up for co-op via the "become a visitor" option, can you be summoned somewhere you haven't already been if you overlevel your current location?
walking around in a village looking for demons to kill to fill the 0/10 bar (7 of them are dwellers and two jailers - all isolated, of course, we can't get too crazy) instead of being suspicious of every god damn corner is the experience Nioh was missing.
The framerate is so much worse in coop it's unreal
>>557780190The DLCs were already leaked. An underworld/twilight mission update between now and September however would be rather expected.
>>557779997It’s actually the opposite, spear flourish basically bricks the spear by canceling arts proficiency, it’s mega garbo
>>557780994read anon, there is a reason why I wrote "changed" still with these funny """""open"""""" wworld maps, they might just have the assets, especially in the bakumatsu era to make it a nightrein lite mode to toss around all these floating land marks that were stapled together to become "levels"
>>557780190>first DLCvery angry
>>557781058>spear flourish cancels arts proficiencyah fuck that's a nightmare, I don't play it much so I only labbed it for a second to see if it shared the Frost Moon cancel of the others. Sucks that one isn't useful.
>>557779997ALREADY KNOWN and spear CAN frost moon from any stance, it's only 2kat and fists that cant frost moon from the same stance for some reason
>>557780808>all isolated, of course, we can't get too crazyThis bothers me so much. It felt like almost everything's a 1 on 1 like they want us whaling on sandbags whenever we're not in designated arenas
What are the flashiest weapons for both Samurai and Ninja styles? And why did they remove stances from hatchets/tonfa...
>>557781272I think Switchglaive and hatchets are the flashiest by a long shot
>>557781272>flashiest1kat/CestusHatchets/1kat>why did they removebecause that's how ninja works bro, Hatchets is missing literally nothing and is 10x better than Nioh 2. It's the only Ninja weapon I think was improved in the transition.
Second DLC will start with you purifying a guardian spirit like with Yoritomo and Takeda only to realize it's well and truly dead since the Christians recategorized it as a pagan demon.If enough people in Japan think the same way about guardian spirits in general, it'll start to affect the ones with major roles like Kusanagi. In the end, to stop this problem before it starts, Takechiyo declares that Japan will close its borders.
I hope they let us equip a bible instead of a guardian spirit
Why is there nothing in Remodel for me? I have items, I'm not at NG+ yet. I just want to fuck around with it.
>>557782634only for gear with +value
>jesus guardian spirit>attack has him flip a table at the enemy>onmyo is a walk on water scroll
>>557782713Gotcha, thanks anon.
>>557779849>i think its ministernice
>>557782806>judas guardian spirit>spends your gold to buy the nearby land and then makes a revenant
>>557781249>already knownDon't see you sharing any tech dipshit.
>>557779849>>557783181apparently Elder is highest rank and 60k glory is needed to reach it
Do mystic arts apply regardless of which weapon is equipped?
made it to halfway through ng+ before i realized frost moon even existed
>>557784070I'd say "of course not lmao" but that's because the alternative doesn't even make sense in many situations
>>557784145I am sorry for your loss. Frost Moon did so much work in making 3 fun for me and I probably would've been bored to death by the stale enemy variety before the end if not for it. It's worth getting used to even if you don't need it, very fun and stylish for most weapons.
>>557784175It seems like Odachi's subtle blade is letting me do more ki damage with my axe though, are you sure?
>controller has stick drift >face buttons are either touchy or not responsive>trigger activates when it feels like it whether its being pressed or notrecs for a decent pc controller?
>>557785807every non-ps4 controller ive tried with pc has broken in a few years. the build quality of pc controllers just isnt good
I will be Shogun.
am i just terrible at the game i recently started or are the new boss animations really awkward compared to the previous games?
>>557786359Only the guy with the red armor should give you remotely any trouble for the first 3 maps or so
sounds like a skill issue to mei usually do a NG playthrough on release and I got used to the game again after a few hours
>>557786359Just you
>>557786459i'm at the shingen rematch. jakotsu was way harder than human shingen or either of the red general fights.
>>557786638Must be your build or you didn't do enough stuff before Jakotsu-Baba
i thought Ii naotora and himiko were the same character
>>557787765they are, she just has a horrible memory recall
Holy fuck I'm getting my ass whooped. The Tengu boss guy in the regular world takes close to no damage as well.. I think I just suck + I'm even worse with kurasigami.
>>557788070More like KUSOrigami amirite
Gugbros, how are my numbers looking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsf-uv8cIe8this cunt gets a 170 ninja weapon, i've farmed over a billion amrita in the same spot on the same difficulty with higher luck and i've never seen higher than a 169 ninja wepthere's something weird going on in the background affecting ilvl ranges man
lightning step is so fucking useless what a waste of space
>>557788070Tengu's one of the larger jumps in difficulties, you'll get him
human bosses in this game fucking suck, they can just block you forever and then instantly get all their stamina back. certain weapons can deal with it but if you, god forbid, use spear or something then waiting to occasionally punish their attacks is the best you get
>>557792474Doesn't spear have a sweep? I could have sworn it had one in 2
>>557792474>spearyour kick sir? pole butt smash? parry when they try to do anything?
can 7800X3D run this at locked 60
>>557793150>>557793586stop arguing, I'm here to complain and complain I will
>>557792474With kusarigama I just spam the hold heavy attack (not reaper the one that sucked in old games because it was basically the high stance light combo) it’s insane in this game
>>5577937239700x, 9070xt, Linux Proton 10-29, I'm good at 60 mostly except a couple areas where it drops down into the 50s and stays there for a few seconds at a time which is a serious issue since the jap code makes everything slow down or something. It's all a little stuttery intermittently though.
That snake palace area in the south east of bakumatsu was a big let down, looked cool but it was just a bunch of platforms with basic mooks and a reused boss.
do revenants in ng+ get an hp boost or do i just have extremely little?the revenants seem to be around 5-6k hp while i have 3k
>>557794957Do those guys get clan bonuses? Someone's maybe got some explaining to do regarding how they died with Todo clan
When you think about it, ninja is basically just the 4th samurai stance...
>>55779511875% of them are tonfa users using sloth as well kek
>Collect every single marked collectible on every map>I’m still missing skill points and samurai and ninja pointsWhat the fuck?
>>557795598Have you checked side missions?Including the top secret ones?
>>557794957They get an HP boost but it could also be you're fighting Todo members (inflated HP pool at present).>Puts on dunce capHaving Ki issues with heavy armor, does the weight ratio only matter at the breakpoints or is it good to put more weight on to reduce ki costs? For reference I'm at 70% and have B Agility.
>samurai: caestus>ninja: tonfafind a single goddamn flaw with this combo
>>557792474Piercing rain spam->WinHeavy->Flourish->High/Mid stance moon frost, repeat->Win
>>557795693Yes. What do you mean by top secret?
>>557796012Some missions start from looting random dead mobs, these guys don't appear on the maps and sometimes they are inside other minimaps like the crucible.
I don't want to go back to Stranger of Paradise, I want to make cool builds in this game
>>557796131Oh right, yep got every side quest done but at this rate I’ll check again anyway. I fuarking love open world exploration
>>557796258are the voices back
>>557796258is rise of the ronin good? I thought about playing it when i'm done with nioh 3.
>>557796482it's kusoge
why the hate for tonfas
>>557796482I wouldn't recommend going into it after Nioh 3 since you probably have open world fatigue after finishing your NG+ run and it handles it much worse, the combat is excellent if memorizing boss attack patterns is appealing to you but so much of that game is a 6/10 to get to the 9/10 parts.
>>557796860Where?
>>557765930I did this because it also covers tonfa and kusari which are some of my favourite weapons and they got sent to ninja jail
>>557796860they seem to be pretty strong judging by online discourse and the amount of revenants carrying themits just shitting on people who follow build guides
>>557796975>>557795401
>>557796482They put the best parts of it into nioh 3 imo so while I liked it because I played it before nioh 3, you will probably be let down.For what it matters i felt better informed about the bakumatsu era for having played it. Genuinely felt my heart sink when takasugi started coughing in nioh 3
We probably won't be able to visit the Iga Ninja house in the DLCs and fuck around with the secret ninja passages, but damn I hope the Giant Toad is both a boss and an acquirable summon so we can go full on Jiraiya.
>>557797110Jealous kusOrigama users...
HOW do people play 1kat ninja?
why no secret william fight
>>557796860I don't really hate tonfas but I did stop using them because they were boring. If they keep making human enemies have unlimited ki I might start using it in NG++.
>>557797314prob in DLC 2
if you had to choose, would you rather have new weapons in the DLCs or have them give each weapon to both samurai and ninja?
when do you think team ninja will fix their piece of shit game engine
>>557797745I'd rather have some more Ninjitsus and Guardian Spirits.It seems to me like Guardian Spirit skills are kind of replacements for Yokai moves in Nioh 2, it's like someone combined Ippon and Brute Burst. But there are so many Yokai cores and half or so of the Guardian Spirit moves are sort of shitty, that it feels like a complete downgrade
why are burst counter animations artificially delayed like they took inspiration from modern fromsoft slop
>>557797284https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sor85qVfzuElike this>>557797745If I HAD to choose, JUST one, new weaponsI definitely want naginata
fists got done dirty
>>5577981251. you can use guardian skills during the windup2. idk it feels like there tends to be a slight tell before they finally hit so it's not unpredictable like modern fromslop design
>>557798351That's not Nioh 3
For the last week I've been putting a whole lot of effort into the Odachi and I can confidently say this weapon is shit.I've tried multiple sets, multiple clans, multiple skills and combos. A combination of Fukurokuju and Crimson General is the highest amount of damage I've been able to find without dipping into meta chasing buffs, just general use for normal play. Combined with a Yasakani, Five pieces of Crimson General (6 pc for A Odachi Damage) and 5 Piece Fukurokuju (6 pc for B+ Damage scaling from Constitution) and changing your Odachi to scale from Constitution instead of magic is the highest I've gotten. I've tried mixing in other sets from Inaris Elemental Weapons (probably the actual best, but kinda annoying upkeep) and things like Brave Demon and Vaisravana. But I felt this was the best for general use, especially considering how many of your skills are high commitment or more importantly, insanely Ki heavy in costs.Out of all of the skills I've used, Soaring Fowl and Ground Sweeper were the best by a large margin, but their best was just an "okay" Katana. Even chaining together Sunset Breeze or Frost Moon during Samurai Mode just felt like I was hitting most enemies with a wet noodle.It feels like a decimal point was lost somewhere in translation because this weapon is easily the worst weapon I've touched in Nioh 3. And so far I've only not experimented with Spear and I struggle to see something as blatantly shit as Odachi.>b-but I beat the game with itAnd I did beat the game with it. Doesn't change how shit it is in comparison to everything else.
>>557798447how so
>>557798447How so?
>>557799042>>557799056no izuna drop
>this weapon is badskill issue>it sucks for human enemiesskill issue>it doesn't do enough damageskill issue>it's not funskill issueshrimple as
>>557799154I'm more bummed about tiger claws being locked to talons. I don't like the new opportunist input either.At least there's a hyper armor limitless now though. Plus you get shoryuken and killer bee now. Not to mention frost moon and proficiency. Damage taken while attacking resistance also pairs great with fists.Win some, lose some I guess.
>a blood edge demon has appeared
I love fists but I kinda hate their grapple animation desu.
Weapon user IQ chart:Over 150: 1kat, kusarigama, fists120-149: 2kat, splitstaff100-119: odachi, spear80-99: switchglaive, talonsSub 80: tonfas, axe
>>557799973It's one of the most stylish though. Literally a move out of ip man.https://youtu.be/Kv9ygN2B8WU?t=157
>>557800414>tfw grug IQ and use fists with max stam heavy armor build todo clan and spam the tackle move into circle around kick comboheh
There is something seriously wrong with the the game's accuracy in registering player inputs. First of all, I'm getting more input drops here than I ever have in Nioh 1 and 2 (and those games already had some minor input eating issues, but nothing as glaring as the ones in Nioh 3). Here are some examples:1. I crouchwalk up to an unsuspecting enemy to press triangle and do the fancy grapple animation from behind him. Nothing happens. I have to press triangle again to trigger the backstab grapple.2. I attempt to do multiple iai slashes in a row against a yokai that is out of ki and ready to be grappled, and my character every now and then just simply sheathes his katana/odachi/2kats and stands still like a retard. I've been chaining iai slashes for literally thousands of hours in the previous Nioh games without any problems, but here I've had multiple occasions where it just doesn't work.3. I try to do attacks with one weapon, and then I do the good old instant weapon change into a sheath attack on the second weapon while bypassing the flash attack (hold R1, then press Circle, then press down on the d-pad). Again, I've done this a billion times in Nioh 2 and 1 (though the input is slightly changed in Nioh 1 due to how weapon changing uses right instead of down on the d-pad). Yet, somehow, even though this also works in Nioh 3, the input fuckery means that I only can get this shit to come out half the time. This specific one is definitely bugged. Especially if I try to switch back and forth between Katana and Odachi.4. When I tried to equip that new mastery skill that allows you to cast onmyo magic spells while walking, the onmyo would occasionally just NOT come out when I was walking. Sometimes it would, sometimes it won't. Sometimes my character would begin to cast the onmyo, but would stop depending on how much I walked. There is zero consistency. It made me switch back to the mastery skill that just sped up onmyo casting.
>>557797284light heavy heavy
Does anyone have any numbers yet on whether or not Intelligence makes a meaningful difference to ki regen and buff duration?
switchglaive is incompatible with kb+m simple as
What's the most stylish samurai weapon?
>>5578035261kat
i had to uninstall because i kept playing even though i had nothing left to do. i have over 100 hours played
>>557788070>The Tengu boss guy in the regular world takes close to no damage as well..upgrade your gear
>>557797284you can do whatever you want with the weapon, it's safe as hellstrong attack from range -> mist -> whateverdive attacks from the airdashing around and behind the enemy whenever you want to be
>>557803526>>557803602yea. ex. countering soji's cross-arena dash attack with that parry counter... 2 sick
>>557803221if you're in the first world, you have no excuse to not just have a $20 xbox knockoff
>>557796482depends on how much you like Ass Creed
>>557796860tonfas are for bitches who can't git gud>>557795401I don't doubt this
>>557797314Wirriam and Hiddy will both show up in the DLC, watch
Beat demon of pride in like 10 tries while underleveled I think considering I got level 90 gear. I'm level 76 he wasn't even that hard
>>557804842>I got level 90 gearyou weren't underleveled
>>557804842Holy shit youre cool
How did we go from this:https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh2/mods/105to this:https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh3/mods/53
>>557799007same here, and i mostly agree. i have like 50 hours with the weapon. its "startup" on attacks are some of the worst and it does less damage than faster weapons PER HITit really does have good (relatively...) martial arts, but i wish the stance switching combos and basic moveset did damage>best by a large marginswirling snow bullies humanoids (easy ki break), and the defensive stuff should probably always be noted
>>557804941My weapons were like level 40- 50 though unless that's how its supposed to be>>557804995Thanks I know
>>557805104>>557799007and spear mogs it; it's not even close
>>557805152oh ok, that's more impressive then
>>557805268spear is garbo
The only holiday I celebrate is Cestuses for the restofus
>>557805294and it mogs odachi. spear is easily best of the worst, but maybe even better than that
What does Level Sync do? Will I get better loot?
>>557805406higher level gear yeahI wish I could do this but I guess it's only ng+
>>557805027Brother nioh 3 has been out for like 2 weeks, give it some time
>>557802816Katana Engine constantly eats inputs yeah it's been endemic since Wo Long
That final crucible area leading up to the final battle against Hiruko was cancerous (especially that tiny little island area with all of the Nozuchis and the Konaki Jiji, or all the endless Jailer Oni spam in tight walkways), but goddamn the amazing music and atmosphere helped keep it bearable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4S7Fvo_e5Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs0I_LfcJM0I'm so glad they brought back Akihiro Manabe to do the soundtrack work for this game. They should just hire him as an in-house musician and have him for every future Team Ninja game soundtrack.
>>557805406Wait, Nioh 3 has level sync? Was this just added in or has it always been there since launch?
where is that last wraith?
Killed Ibaraki waifu on NG+ and she dropped NOTHING. Not even a single piece of loot. What's the deal, TN? Why am I playing NG+ if I can't get loot and make a set?
>>557807091She gave you her heart instead...
So those that don't just fucking ABUSE a clearly broken clan.. What clan did the rest of you guys pick? Most bonuses are kind of ass
>>557807236Ashikaga for Guard Ki Consumption reduction. I have always played Nioh games with as much guard ki reduction as possible. I continue to do so in Nioh 3. In Stranger of Paradise, you can reduce your guard ki consumption to literally 100 percent. Sad that you can't do that in the Nioh games.
>>557807342You can ki pulse after blocking tho. It's an easily accessible skill now.
>mopping up a low level areai am a god gamer
>>557807236gamo for better gear
>>557797284Jump and then lb+X then lb+Y then lb+X until purple ki is broken. It doesn't do much on smaller bosses but on big models it does many hits as you pass through. Then switch to samurai and kill them while they're staggerable. On most bosses this will to more ki damage than toonf.
>>557807475Yes, I know. But I still prefer maxing out ki reduction from guarding so that I can dodge as minimally as possible.Sadly, you can no longer negate grabs using specific soul cores like you could in Nioh 2 (like Yoki, Bakegani, Namahage, etc.), so I'm forced to dodge grabs in this game. But otherwise, I try to get away with not dodging. Also, speaking of Namahage, WHERE THE FUCK are they in Nioh 3?
>>557799154Wait, I'm pretty sure it's there. Or was that only on talons?
>>557807721They got replaced by ninja Yoki
>>557807721Can you jump over grabs with some of the guardian skills or is the concept of "bypassing grabs" completely gone?
The Spare ending bonus after credits really makes me think much of the story was rewritten before release.
>>557807804Ninja 1kat
>>557762691It's one of the funnier ones but I hate when I slide past my target with it and miss the attack
>>557807894You can easily high profile a ton of grab attacks with any of the GS skills that put you airborne (since I did mention Guard Ki Reduction, my GS for Samurai style is Oh, and its flying R2+Square attack high profiles tons of grabs). But I'm not talking about EVADING the hitbox of the grab. I'm talking about COMPLETELY NULLIFYING the hitbox of the grab.With cores like Namahage and Yoki, you can literally stand in the hitbox of an enemy grab and nullify the grab.
>>557806743It's NG+, I have never seen that option in NG for Battle Scrolls
bro the real end game is farming retextures of shit holy shit
>>557808364Thank goodness. I was worried that level sync might be something that wasn't in the game, because I have not seen anyone mention level sync until that post I responded to earlier.Now I just hope they bring back Stone of Penance soon.
roman nioh
>>557806761Doesn't seem to be in any of the Myths or Battle Scrolls related to this area?
>>557808574Daidara Bocchi the Rock
does the game have the late game scrolls that make you want to have 250 in a stat yet
You would think that they'd give returning yokai enemies like Yoki and Skeleton Warriors actual new attacks that deal with a player that has aerial combat capabilities, instead of giving them new moves on the ground that don't do anything to deal with a player that has Ninja style universally available.Now, I'm not saying Yoki needs to be able to float in the air, but give him something like the ability to grab a giant chunk of the ground and chuck it at us at high speeds. Or maybe throw his weapon at us when we are in the air that comes out as fast as his bullshit grab.
>>557808574Possible if Yasuda ever gets around to that Celtic Nioh he wanted after three kingdoms and bakumatsu
>>557809419Jumping was a mistake. I hate the new flying enemies.
>>557808574Didn't the director actually say in an interview he wanted a Celtic Nioh after he enjoyed William and whatnot.
am i playing it wrong or does odachi just not really do that much damage?
>>557810082nothing does damage
>>557810175Except meditation sword
Do you guys know where to farm goichimonshu blacksmith text?it's my main armor set right now and the set bonus is so crucial to my build I'm using lvl 23 pieces over lvl 90+ armor lol would like to at least craft some pieces for my lvl
>>557810082No, Odachi is just bad. It's THE worst Samurai weapon.
>>557797284The water kick attack does so much ki damage for what it's worth so I just do that when bosses get uppity.
>>557762103Where does the raikiri smithing text drop from? Haven't found it yet and I'm annoyed by this fact.
>>557805027chest wrap removal in Nioh 2 was kinda half assed though, this new on for 3 has potential, just need some udpates
>>557807236Kakizaki is excellent
>>557809252it was 150 in a stat, and no, that will probably begin in DLC 1
>>557806761anybody know?
grug spin and grug rush is so dumb it will take time to get used to older Nioh again
Yoritomo was a bitch, I feel ashamed I died at least one time to him because I got greedy.
in awe at this size of this lad
>shinsengumi’s clan bonus is a 50% damage increase when attacking from the frontOh wow, this shit is OP. No wonder that clan has so many members
>>557811106the simple fact that it worked with any size boobs and had actual nipples makes it far better
>>557811591don't look at it from the rear
Damage is a non-issue for Odachi and every other weapon in this game, considering how pathetically low every enemy's HP and Ki is and considering how easily accessible broken shit like Weakness Talisman is available for players to use (and considering how much more broken Confusion is now that every additional elemental status effect buffs its damage multiplier). If you actually care about Odachi, you'll care about the plethora of central issues Odachi has that have nothing to do with its damage output. For example:1. Why does mid-stance regular attacks now bounce off of blocking enemies? It never did that in Nioh 1 and 2. It was classified as a heavy weapon like Axe in 1 and 2 (and Splitstaff in 2), so mid-stance regular attacks didn't bounce off of blocking enemies back then. But now it does.2. Why does Bolting Boar not work against standard yokai enemies now when it did in Nioh 2? On a related note, why does Bolting Boar not work like 70-80 percent of the time against standard human enemies?3. Why does blocking with this weapon push you like 2 steps forward? This literally does not happen with any other weapon. The animation looks so janky. I am certain that this jank affects the parry timing of Bolting Boar.4. Why are there TWO skills assignable to L1+Triangle (Retrograde Flow and Groundquake) while there are SEVEN skills that are assignable to "hold Triangle" (Undaunted, Swirling Snow, Moonlit Snow, Moonlit Snow Redux, Stone Volley, Thunderbolt, Devastating Rush)? What were the developers smoking when they were assigning these inputs?5. Why are both of its Mystic Arts still complete shit and don't actually enhance the weapon's combat (the way something like Kannagi does with Tonfa or how both of Switchglaive's Mystic Arts add a new move to the weapon) after 3 whole games?
>>557805027>nude mod>in fucking nioh of all thingspeople that play female characters unironically need to see a shrink for porn addiction
People saying ninja is OP haven't gotten good at deflecting.
>>557811973I do not understand how people say Ninja is OP. It takes me legitimately like 4-5x longer killing stuff as a Ninja compared to just using 1kat. I feel like maybe Ninja seems OP if you're retarded and can't Flux or Deflect or position and need the evade crutch. The dmg output seems pitiful compared to most Samurai weapons.
>>557811973It's not that Ninja is OP it's just a lot easier.
>>557811973correct I do not parry in games
>>557812217Deflect isn't a parry.
>>557811973Easier skill floor =/= OP. That's the mistake most commentators are making. Also, you don't need Deflect to make Samurai style strong.
>>557811973The majority of the revenants I fight are Ninja which makes me wonder do people just play Ninja that much more or do Ninja players just die more often, or both?
>>557781264Taking stealth from titles was a big mistake as well
>>557812093exactly this
>>557811650the downside of it was it didn't remove the bottom part and for some strange reason every piece of armor would have to be edited manually to remove the chest wrap so there's wasn't a whole lot of armors it worked within any case, i'm just thankful there are modders working on these games and i hope they keep it up
>>557812440I just play it like Nioh 2 and sometimes deflect happens on accident when I guard. Same with the evade, it's just a bonus to my normal dodging.
>>557812471most people are shitters, it's really that simple. samurai style is more difficult to play, especially if you haven't played the previous games so people will gravitate to the shitter mode.i think team ninja kinda fucked up in a way as FORCING people to get good with samurai makes the game substantially more fun than relying on the ninja crutch
>>557812471I did die a lot more often in my ninja only NG+ run.
>>557812242
odachi fucked? i wont stop using it since bigger number on stats screen makes me feel good
is 160 the max item level? am i safe to start investing my gold into enhancements and reforging now?
>>557812665Odachi has never been good. You use it if you're a hipster.
>>557813065got me through nioh 1 and 2
>>557812627I look like say think and do this
>>557811819Not to mention the lack of moves.Some inputs only have those moves that just recycle the normals from other stances. Some stances don't even have L1+square inputs at all.I used to complain about the same thing with tonfas in nioh 2. Fists had more moves, and were one game newer. Now tonfas are exclusively ninja weapons, so now they have even less fucking moves. lolAerial combat in general seems to be mostly reserved for ninja too. Samurai weapons only have one mid-air input, and they're all hold triangle plunging attacks, except cestuses, which only have one L1+square plunging attack.2kats could've used more moves. Weapons that have been around since vanilla nioh 1 shouldn't have so many inputs with only one move on them imo.As a fist main in nioh 2, I don't like that talons stole so many old moves, and new moves that could've fit on the samurai moveset just fine. I can also actually feel the input dropping problem people have been describing when I use nioh 3 fists.I've gotten over any fumbling from any new controls or inputs at this point. There's definitely an input dropping problem now that wasn't there in 2 unfortunately. Mainly happens when I try to chain in the hold triangle moves.
>Samurai>can spam infinite martial arts if you know what you’re doing>tanky>ki pulse>big damage>Ninja>squishy>hits like a wet noodle unless you can consistently backstab the enemy>slow ki regen>the only good thing about them is the ninjutsusWhy is ninja OP again?
>>557813321ninjitsu spam with like 2 other ninjas
>>557813218If you haven't realized by the third game that 1kat chads run this series, it's your own fault desu.
so does anything actually happen if you spare the yokai girl in the heian zone?
>>557813321tonfa is the only weapon I know how to use in nioh 3
>>557813474You get a Kasha gf in ng+
>>557813450Axe chads apparently got special treatment as well.Heard spears and switchgays weren't raped like some of the other weapons at least.
>>557811224Yeah I ran tornado edge cheese in the demo, switched to heavy armor fist, I started hating the game when I spammed tornado edge takes zero thought process.if you can enjoy just spamming it for 60 hours on every enemy while W keying forward, more power to you.
I don't know how to feel about all of the boss reuse desu. kinda lame getting to the end of the temple and just getting sukuna again as a boss. the previous quest was hino enma too.
anyone know if repel expert(bigger burst break window) works with regular burst break or does it need to be a style shift the description says?
>>557813872It bothers me how much Kamaitachi and Ryomen Sukuna are reused when there are Yokai bosses in 1 and 2 that don't appear in 3, unless they're hidden away in ng+
>>557813474Yeah you get to cuck the ghost by marrying his Yokai gf.
Pokemon guy was a very boring fight in NG+Why does grapple do so little damage now?
>>557813218>>557811819To be completely fair - the damage is an issue because while the game isn't hard, it's painfully obvious how low the damage is compared to other weapons and that chasm is only going to grow with new DLCs and subsequent new difficulties. That damage is also tied with it's bizarrely low ki damage for that damage and worst of all, how much Ki it uses for that damage. Some attacks outright delete your ki, not allowing you to get off more than two attacks in a single fucking ki bar and for a weapon that has such slow animations, you're then getting hit and put into a winded state. It's absolutely insane comparing Odachi to 1 Kat. And I'm not even talking about their OP skills and insanely powerful crucible skills, just base skills for 1kat are so damn good compared to the slop of Odachi just based on damage and ki damage.
>>557812665It was decent in 1 and 2. Not amazing. There were always better choices. But it at least felt good to use. It doesn't feel good in 3.
>>557813872Kinda agree, I think they should've added the owl and the snake back as well or hell, maybe even Ogress or Nue from 1 but there's still the dlc.
>>557813321I think you might be actually retarded if you can't immediately see why ninja is insane.Or not using 1kat or tonfas.Grab ninja 1kat and the strongest tier of shadow jutsus (I think they're the (uncanny' ones). Then do light>heavy>heavy>jutsu, and watch as your ki fills back up before you're even done casting, your shadow jutsu does about 2.5× the damage of the similar tier onmyo, even with 5 Skill, and stuns the enemy long enough for you to start your chain again.It's the most braindead bullshit imaginable.
>>557762565you need to insult a general at the fire lord's war council meeting
>>557814319Forgot to mention it will also delete whatever enemy's ki you're hitting and keep them Confused forever. Love killing these bullshit human bosses with cheated ki regen with Izuna Drop.
>>557814319Tonfa and 1kat are the only weapons that feel strong lol. Tonfa does a weirdly high amount of dmg. In Nioh 2 they were pretty much just a ki dmg weapon but here they easily outdmg most of the ninja weps and almost match Samurai.
>>557813321why did you beat most of the game as ninja?
How are you supposed to deal dmg with Talons?
>>557814441From what I can tell, most of ninja's utility is in ki deletion and Confusion infliction. I play odachi so I do obscene damage when I get it rolling, but ninja's CC potential is just absolutely insane. 1kat and tonfa do feel like they hitblike wt noodles by comparison, but that hardly matters when the enemy never gets to hit me back.
>>557811819>odachi damage doesnt matter when you can kill bosses with nothing but ninjitsu even fasterif you are cheating to the extent where damage doesnt matter, none of your nuance matters eitherotherwise a good critique
>>557812964170, can't be crafted, rare drop
>>557814637I guess I should invest more into the jutsus. I've mainly been using it as an alternate 4th stance instead of a new playstyle. Need to start using the jutsus more especially since you can use them during Mist and stuff.
>>557814553You switch to Cestus.
>>557800414>tfw 1kat/tonfasI am idort
>>557802816I notice it using a heal. I hear the input sound ingame but my character didn't eat it
>>557811819Agree with most everything, but it's damage still sucks regardless of how shit the weapon is nowadays.You can say, "Well it doesn't matter because the game is easy" but it's still a piece of shit weapon with dog shit damage. And that's only going to get worse with higher difficulties. Soon it'll take several minutes to kill a relatively tough enemy with Odachi and only 10 seconds with anything else. But hey, "it doesn't matter."
What are the two best clan bonuses?I use;>Damage taken while attacking (-20%)>Gain Health on Amrita (12)
Impregnating Himiko.
>>557813474I don't know if it's because I didn't kill her but it added an amrita memory where she really was looking for his medicine all this time
>>557770847Scales to your level so has nothing to do with zone scaling
I can't get used to directional input +L1 for parry on weapons, and using skills with direction pressed also feels weird. I hate the fact that they had to reinvent the wheel due to dedicated jump button taking space on pad.
What are the tier list for weapons now that we've had time to experiment???Personally I think;>S Tier1 Kat (Samurai)TonfaAxe>Don't know anything else except below>F Shit tier OdachiDunno about anything else.
>>557813474I think i found her corpse up on a cliff, just some more dialogue.
>>557816383>using skills with direction pressed also feels weirdchange the controls then
>>557816680>change the controls thenY-you can do that?
odachi sucks but im gonna keep using it because it looks cool
>>557816861basedhopefully they buff the damage
Ground sweeper on arts proficiency on Odachi is great, but beyond that the moveset is pretty weak.
>>557816680No fucking way I've been forcing myself to play with forward+triangle/square for skills for 10 hours when I could have just had mostly Nioh 2 button mapping. Well tht makes everything easier
Samurai "players" will complain that Ninja has an easier dodge while they mash hyperarmoured heavies straight through a boss's moveset at 80%+ damage reduction
>>557816861I love the Fiery looking Greatsword Model the last boss has which you can get for Odachi.I used Odachi religiously in 1 and 2, and thought I'd try something else in 3. Then went back to it for that Odachi since it looks kinda like a Zweihander.Ended up dropping the weapon though because of how bad it feels compared to in 2.>mid stance now bounces off blocks>triple the ki usage of any other weapon>Mystic Skills still suck years later>half of your skills are bound to a single input so you're extremely limited to skill choicesThey ruined my Swordfu.
>>557811819>4. Why are there TWO skills assignable to L1+Triangle (Retrograde Flow and Groundquake) while there are SEVEN skills that are assignable to "hold Triangle" (Undaunted, Swirling Snow, Moonlit Snow, Moonlit Snow Redux, Stone Volley, Thunderbolt, Devastating Rush)? What were the developers smoking when they were assigning these inputs?i honestly feel this way about most weapons i really wish you more free to assign skills to whatever you want instead of having to make a choice between like 4 rb + y attacks and then there only being 1 rb + x attack
>>557816383>using skills with direction pressed also feels weirdIt feels more natural than the old input desu
theres something really satisfying about smacking a ninja revenant out of the air
>>557779979this guy is the prime example of a weird blob moving around and being impossible to readfuck that guy
hard to play with this bandaid on my finger
>>557817974>weird blob moving around and being impossible to readTeam Ninja says hold up, we can do worse
Severing Spin or whatever the judgement cut end move on 1kat is is fucking broken. Why the fuck does it have both a built in deflect plus invisible hit stun before the slices come out lmao?
>>557818491It's broken and I love it. Also incredible aoe.
>>557815792Luck +25
Is there a way to leave a coop while keeping drops? Host is just farming
>>557818929What does Luck even do? Is it just turning loot into higher rarity?
>>557817974I can't believe that the giant monster boss just kind of flails around. That's so unlike giant monster bosses in every game ever.
>>557818976>>557818929tbqh i can't feel much difference between 200 and 424 luck in crucible which is the difference between my samurai and ninja
cant believe i never even thought to shoot the crows when i always shot the owl in 2
>>557819254Same, but I did shoot Murakumo.
>>557819254>>557819420first time through i didn't think to shoot any of them, was fucking annoying to deal with
What guardian spirits are you using?I main samurai, and I was using Kongojishi for a long time but recently switched to Guhin.On ninja I use Tengen Kujaku because I only switch to it occasionally so getting all sensors is useful.
>>557818952Ignore that, I just found the prompt in the menu
Are Ninja weapons lower dps than Samurai? It doesn't even seem comparable unless i manage to land backstab hits. Is there any Ninja weapon thats comparable to normal ones?
>>557819749>Are Ninja weapons lower dps than Samurai?Backstab damage is comparable to Semen mode but harder to access. When not landing backstabs Ninja melee damage is lower than non-Semen Samurai. It's easier to deal damage with Ninja during open play without getting hit because they have barely any animation commitment but Samurai doesn't have to worry about getting hit in the first place. Deflect is lower risk than Evade.
>>557819549For Samurai I like the Tanuki and Kongojishi, Tanuki is especially great for aggressive Katana gameplay since I can always whip out the easy counter.
>>557810271pretty sure its from one of the named guys you fight before the crab boss in the takeda castle
>>557813218> Now tonfas are exclusively ninja weapons, so now they have even less fucking moves. lolNinjas have fewer on-demand options available than base game Wo Long's wizardries and martial arts somehow. There is no reason why we can't have a second, third and fourth set of three ninjutsus at least like with item sets in Nioh 1. Same with martial arts. Just give us multiple sets like martial arts in Wo Long's later patches. >>557814735But you don't need ninjutsu to shit out big damage. I was still referring to how you can shit out big damage using Odachi alone (again, through the use of debuffs like Confusion, which is now stronger than ever before thanks to how you get extra damage per elemental status stack, as well as talismans that are now far easily more accessible to every type of playstyle). Or, if you want to go further while sticking to Odachi, even the most basic gear tempering can do wonders to boost damage. Damage compensation has never been an issue in any Nioh game. These current-day complaints about Odachi are exactly like when most people complained about Tonfa doing "zero damage" in Nioh 1 when the weapon first came out in its second DLC. >>557815701>Soon it'll take several minutes to kill a relatively tough enemy with Odachi and only 10 seconds with anything else. But hey, "it doesn't matter."You can kill monsters often several minutes faster in the newer games of Monster Hunter with gunner weapons like Heavy Bowgun than with even the best melee weapons. Sometimes it takes even less than a minute against a lot of endgame super buffed up fights.That doesn't mean the melee weapons need buffing. It means the damage lunacy from the strongest weapons (in this case, the bowguns) need nerfs. If it's reached that point, then that's a issue similar to gunning in Monster Hunter. At that point, the problem is not the weakest weapon, but the strongest ones.
>>557812572>mfw I'm remembering the first few days of release and there were so many red graves in a big temple area that had a single fucking Karasu TenguHe's still killing loads of people even though he's arguably the weakest he's ever been in the series.
>>557819254i didnt think to shoot them until some anon mentioned it in the thread>>557819420oh my fuck
Probably a stupid fucking question but do the character codes from 2 not at least get close to being 1:1 the same look if used in 3?
I like how the sentry summon either does a million damage or barely any.
>>557821101Character codes from 2 don't work at all in 3, it's a whole new(worse) character creator with fewer options.
>Kodama Bowl, Scampuss Hat, Himiko's set, and Shock Troop Armor are all ninja-onlyI hate this stupid fucking game so fucking much.
Are there talismans that increase omyo damage? This system's a massive pain in the ass for figuring out what's there and what's not.
>>557821101Nioh 2 and 3 use different engines so no chance
>>557792474You gotta learn to combo and use parries bro. I know spear has a lot of strong tools too
>>557821520carnage talisman increases all damage by 40%, including omnyo
>>557821393I refuse to give up hope that Team Ninja will in a future free patch (not as part of paid DLC) give us all the ability to freely transmog any outfit as Samurai or Ninja. They gave Wo Long's base game extra martial arts and wizardries for everyone (even for people who didn't buy the DLC) after people endlessly complained about it.It's the same situation here: Far too many people are complaining about this. There is no way Team Ninja is unaware of the sentiment.But that's the key: Keep complaining via feedback forms or actual big forums like Reddit or Twitter or whatever so that Team Ninja sees these complaints.
>>557821593this. the game doesn't really do a great job explaining that cum mode doesn't end if you keep chaining arts
>>557821608Thanks, that explains it. I was getting mogged by a thousand damage in my last coop
>>557812627he's right
>>557821693>Far too many people are complaining about this.I don't have Twitter but I fucking hope so.
Turns out you can keep repeating the same moves in semen mode as long as it's not the same one back to back. i thought they all had to be new...
>>557821693>>557821847https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh3/mods/50 some modder guy fixed this by changing like one line in one of the games .ini filesseems like a completely arbitrary block just to piss off the community, or they're fishing for good boi points by patching it in later when the outcry is loud enough
>>557822023you can go back and forth, but if you're a versatility enjoyer it pays to switch up the skills
>>557822024#2 seems more likely
>>557822081versatility is great but unironically just awakening is awesome so you can rebuff without having a million stat points in duration
>>557822023You should still try to flux in between these moves so that you can keep that shit going for a bit longer.
>>557822023Yeah that confused me too. Still, as much as I like Moonlit Snow Redux > Frost Moon: Heaven/Earth > Moonlit Snow Redux > ... , Groundquake [Lightning] > Frost Moon > Retrograde Flow [Water] > ... seems as good or better, given that it costs way less ki, pierces guard, and causes Confusion.
>>557822256yeah i know, i'm too much of a deflect enjoyer to give up versatility, but having to give up awakening for it is absolute dogshit and a fucking design flaw, awakening shouldn't be a mastery, it should be a QoL upgrade you get for free after clearing veteran omnyo or whatever
Tried out Inari. Hated it. Damage wasn't enough to justify the constant annoyance of switching to Ninja for the Tengen Kujaku buff and switching back which is where I get all of my damage. Which also means I need to ration my Spirit Force. The buff also doesn't last that long so I have to constantly interrupt combos while fighting bosses.Really shitty set. Probably only slightly better than Hotei, which is easily the worst grace.
>>557822486true
>>557822545the set i'm most interesed in is the one that gives you "melee attacks extend debuffs" at 6pc. including confusion
The only reason I can think of as to why Night Raider armor isn't in the game (but the Nightshade mask is) is because we're going to fight Hiddy in one of the DLCs, and beating him drops pieces of the Night Raider set. I hope I'm right, because that armor set is my favorite set in the series.
>>557822693i mean...that's basically inevitable no? you both time travel and even met like 10 of the same people
>>557822024I really hate this shit. I wore Sohaya as my Fashion all through Nioh 2. Now I can't use it because I refuse to touch Ninja slop.
>>557822693If I don't get to fight my own Hiddy I will be unreasonably upset
>>557821554It's the same engine tho
>>557822693reminder there are A LOT OF SETS that are blueprint only that you have to forge before they ever actually drop
Why does my Mid Stance Odachi bounce off block? I could have sworn it didn't do that in Nioh 2...Also why the fuck have I got so many skills on the same fucking buttons. I feel like I'm mostly chaining basic attacks with these "skills" and I only have like two or three actual skill attacks...What the fuck did they do to my weapon... I'm two seconds away from asking for a refund...
What is the best heavy armor for graces?
>>557820546>There is no reason why we can't have a second, third and fourth set of three ninjutsusNo that's retarded. The hard limit of 3 ninjutsus is important because it restricts how much time you can spend running away and throwing shit and it makes you choose between more thrown weapons or utility like Cicada. If you give people 4 pages for all the fucking skills they will just use everything all the time like Nioh 1 pre-fight buffing.The only way you could make that work is by replacing ninjutsu charges with a mana bar
>>557793795yeah but it's a stupid complaint, it's like crying that Sekiro doesn't have a parry. it does, you're just too stupid to use it
>>557823262>>557823262because they give you more broken shit anyway
>>557799007Every weapon is viable. Get over it. You think Odachi is shit because you are shit. Just because another weapon is overtuned doesn't mean others are shit. You can do good with any and every weapon. You are hyper focused on "le build" instead of, ya know, skill. Shitter.
>warawa wa~guardian spirit pussy
>>557823262just refund it these games were never meant for retards anyway>>557823373unbelievably based
>>557821693transmog is soulsless and I reject your 'complaint'
>>557823052"updated version" in nioh 3, logically your point stands, but i guess they changed so much that copying old stuff doesn't workkinda funny cause in many ways the characters looked better in Nioh 2, if a bit more anime-like
Hiruko was a pretty cool fight, raped him with 1kat though.
>>557813321>>slow ki regenDefinitely not true lol. Literally the opposite and regardless, you're supposed to weave ninjutsu in with your skills. Ninjutsu work somewhat like yokai skills in 2, as in, when you activate them it immediately starts ki regen. You would be surprised how much ki you regen during the quick animation of ninjutsu and this lets you extend your combos a lot more.
>>557821554>>557821369Goddamn it
>>557823373Literal r*ddit takeOther weapons aren't "le broken". One or two skills being overtuned doesn't make the whole weapon broken. They're how the game is meant to be played.Odachi is actually just shit. Defending trash design fervently like a retarded simp fanboy is the worst thing you can do for a game.
>>557813321It isn't but you also have multiple factual errors in your shitpost
>>557823769Odachi is in the top half of Samurai weapons and top 1 easiest to win with, stay mad shitter. Yes even easier than Axe. Massive skill issue on your part.
>>557813321>Why is ninja OP again?mostly because of point blank glacial calamity to the back if we're being honest
>>557823878fucking kekshow me this incredibly powerful weapon thenyou won't
>>557813321>slow ki regenYou have a perfect dodge that restores ki (it's like 20% instant chunks of recovery per perfect dodge). Being at like 10% and dodging each hit of a fast three hit combo is enough to bring you back to like 70%. I'm sure you can temper your gear to raise that recovery even further.
>>557823769>It's reddit to value skill over buildsNice try, shitter. Also I didn't say other weapons were broken I said they were overtuned. The only valid complaint with Odachi is bolting boar not working against everything anymore. Overlapping inputs is an issue literally every weapon has had for several games, it's not a unique outlier.
>>557823919Show me this completely useless bottom tier weapon then. You won't.>I said it first!!!I don't answer to shitters that can't even manage Odachi lmao.
>>557822693The only way I see them even attempting that is if Hiddy is cloaked with their face hidden and only fight in Shiftling form
>>557823979Yep. Like I said, you won't. Because you can't.>you're le badProve me wrong. Oh wait, you still can't.
>>557824050nah hiddy will do all 3 yokai forms
>>557823878>easier than axeNot possible. Axe is the easy mode weapon. Personally, I don't think it's a particularly amazing weapon. I can do more damage as Caestus and survive more with it. Or 1 kat as well. But it takes a bit more obviously. Axe though is literal one button tier.Nothing is easier than axe.You have no clue what you're talking about.
>>557824062>comes into the thread having a meltdown that the ez mode baby weapon doesn't kill everything in a single Moonlit Snow>PROVE IT TO ME THAT IT'S GOOD, I NEED A PEER REVIEWED THESISfucking lmao that would be assuming you're capable of reading and don't have a handler translating all of this from English to whatever clicking language an ape that gets bodied on Odachi speaks
>>557824193Anon, I've already accepted your concession. You lost, it's fine. You'll get over it.
Why do most of the posters in this thread spend all day just dodging each other and implying things without ever backing their shit up. You two can solve this by just posting your own gameplay instead of calling each other bad, if you have an opinion about a weapon then validate it with footage or describe exactly what you mean
>>557824329here's my gameplay
>>557824292It's deeply ironic that the universal "I give up" response is pretending like a 3 year old that the person you're talking to is the one that gave up.
>>557783181WHORE
>>557824412Okay, but where is the proof again?
>>557824461
>>557824092That's what I said
>>557824329>you can solve this by posting gameplayNo we can't lmao. I'd have to post hours of footage and comparisons between MVs on every single weapon to convince this baby that he's wrong. There's dozens of YT videos where people smoke all of the bosses with Odachi and that's clearly not evidence enough - he wants detailed number breakdowns and it's not my job to provide it.
hide travels through time and slaps the shit out of chiyo
>>557790167weak to (anal) grab
>>557824538>There's dozens of YT videos where people smoke all of the bosses with OdachiNot that guy but this is clearly irrelevant, the game isn't hard and you can of course smoke it with any weapon you like, nobody would ever claim otherwise. MV/time would be a pretty objective way to say at least that a weapon has low output, especially since semen mode allows you to freely mash out any weapon's highest damage sequence
>>557824489>Odachi is badno>PROOVES?k
Odachi has 8 Hold Strong moves. 2 of which are high stance exclusive. It has 3 skills on guard+strong (one of which is just an element version of another)It has a SINGLE guard+quick attack skill. ONE. AND IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE ON FUCKING MID STANCE BECAUSE FUUUUUCK YOU
>>557824406Average Fist and Splitstaff enjoyer.
>>557824669right so I need to go compile a spreadsheet? Fuck off, that's the responsibility of the bitch making the original claim. Otherwise l'll just start spamming that Tonfas are the worst weapon in the game and the only PROOVES that are valid is a complete MV comparison that one of you tards can put together
>>557824687Hey anon, I got your concession letter in the mail. The flowers were a nice touch.
can we all set our differences aside and agree that sam1kat and tonfas are retarded
>>557824876no Tonfas are the weakest weapon across either stance
>>557824718please go look at Splitstaff's skill tree and recall that it's a Ninja weapon, so only once stance to bind to, before you embarrass yourself further
>>557824896Say that to me face not online and see what happens
If you used:Living ArtifactTonfa1kat2katAxeTonfaFists1kat(ninja)Onmyo SummonsBuffsCo-opLight armorGuardian SpiritsNinjutsuThen you didn't beat the game.
Where's the last samurai guardian spirit?In the 3 demon boss rush battle scroll?
>>557824329I don't know how to record gameplay :(
>>557824718>8 hold strong movesAre we really pretending that weaker versions of the same skill is a distinct skill now? Even though the game systems like Versatility don't?
>>557825165kinema
>>557799007>>557823769so far the only thing i have learned is that you guys are fucking shit at video games
>>557825418>still no video proof showing off your supposed "good" weaponel em ay ohconcession status: accepted
>>557806761its the painter dudes side quest
>>557818491Flowing Mist -> Judgement Cut is just amazing.
>>557825491Not the guy you're responding to but Tonfas are the weakest in the game until you prove otherwise
>>557825603I agree with you. And then Odachi is the second worst.
>>557825271>Living ArtifactSometimes, mostly as a short moment of immunity to pop an elixir>TonfaOnly enough to get crucible arts>1katI used that most of the NG and it's my secondary weapon on NG+>2katIt's my primary weapon on NG+>AxeOnly enough to get the master title and crucible arts.>TonfaYou already listed it.>FistsSame as axe.>1kat(ninja)>Onmyo Mostly some self buffs, a bit of summons and lifesteal>Summonssee above>Buffssee above>Co-opI started doing that a bit after completing NG+>Light armorno>Guardian SpiritsYes, mostly on NG+ for counters>NinjutsuA bit, mostly against wasps
>>557825816Almost, but it's more like (from worst to best):Tonfas1katN1katHatchetsAxe2katN2katTalonsKusaCestusSwitchglaiveSpearOdachiSplitstaffand until there is detailed methodical proof otherwise this random ordering I just shit out is factually correct. Anything but a complete MV comparison is a concession accepted in advance.
>die once to Hiruko (antiquity, NG+)>turn of sam2kat grapple>kill him on attempt 2It's just that easy.
Is endgame builds for Samurai just Tatenashi 5pc + Fukurokuju 7pc or Vaisravana 7pc + Brave Demon 3pc + Warrior of the East 2pc + X?
>>557826016Why is grapple even in the game when it's only good for the first 2 hours?
>>557826164It's a good opener against human enemies. They often tend to ignore deflects at some point, and this forces them down so you can start your combo.
Nioh is easily the worst of the AA/AAA Souls-derivatives if you ignore the fact that it is actually an action game pretending to be a Souls game. Why do these people play Nioh at all if they're only using a single stance or style?
>>557826048I'd mix in at least one piece (2pc with Yasakani) of Kintaro. Probably chest armor for large defense, toughness and resistance.Tatenashi also fell off pretty hard versus the previous games. So I'd probably avoid it now.
The Righteous Set of letting you benefit from both guardian spirits looks cool until you look at Ninja spirits. There is nothing really outstanding there.At least there is potential in the future of it becoming better.
Which samurai weapon plays the best and has the nicest flow to it? Is it 1Kat like all other games?
>>557826419you're retarded and elden slop is a joke
>>557826945>zero reading comprehensionNioh is the only soulsslop worth playing but that's because it's actually an action game. Elden Ring is pretty bad, yup. You don't even understand what you're responding to.
>>557826419>an action game pretending to be a Souls gameIn what fucking way is it pretending to be a Souls game? Is it because it has stamina management and dodging/parrying?
>>5578268791kat is stylish as fuck, but unfortunately, it's also easy mode.I think i'm going to rock spear or caestus for ng+
>>557827117>amrita>souls level design and environmental hazards>stamina managementIf you're actually going to pretend there's no souls influences here you should consider taking a break from 4chan for a little bit.
while odachi does feel worthless without cum gauge, once you fill it you can easily grug down enemiesnearly done with ng+ and i dont see the complaints
lmaoing @ the deflect window these two provide you with. You can be like half a second too early or late and still deflect. Trivializes a lot of the game desu.
>trying to get 0-hit boss titles after ng>hino-enma clips me with a paralysis ball at the start of the fight>have to stand there for 2 minutes while she wails away at meMan
>>5578268792kat's flow is pretty good in this game, it's very easy to link skills in cum mode with it once you get the hang of it.
>>557827350>paralysis for you>get stunned for ten seconds while the enemy wails on you>paralysis for enemies>get stunned for one(1) attack
>>557827516Oh no, that's not the problem, i don't level sync when doing this so even when i'm naked she just does no damage
>>557827348You beat the game.
>>557826016>>557826164>>557826368CONCH GODS CLAIM ANOTHER VICTORYcunnymatsu NG+ first attemptand anons said he was "problematic" roflmao
>>557827092*slaps yo butte*shut up bro
>>557827928>all elixirs used up>all magic used up>2kat>high conyou didnt beat the game
>>557828114I can smell your lack of conch.
>>557827706Oh I realised, I'm just kind of bitching about the state of paralysis in the game in general.
>>557827928anons fucking suck at the game
So I'm still in 1st zone, and 2Hatchets play fine, but my damage seems low? I picked up random 1Kat and dealt more in samurai without almost any skills taken. Are hatchets that weak of a weapon or is it me?
>Fists and Talons share a handful of moves>Samurai fists get a dive kick from air>Ninja talons don't
Is there any point on redoing every enemy base on NG+? Crucibles and spikes still give you guardian spirit energy but what about the bases? Thinking of just blazing through the main quests
>>557829003Unlock the skill which follows up high throw with a rush into multi-hit flurry, which for unknown reasons deals 4x the damage of anything else
>>557829084you can skip everything but crucibles, spikes and new crucible wraiths
>>557829084fun? there are a bunch of new enemy placements no?just like before it seems they will be dripfeeding content so the most efficient thing to do with your time is beat ng+ then come back with each dlc release and/or until both release then play it until endgame
>>557827276anyone complaining about things does not understand how the cum gauge works simple as
>>557829584>new crucible wraithsHow to find them? It’s unmarked on the map
>>557829614trvei alternate between triangle, square and the free ki pulse attack i dont have to stop attacking because i stack less damage taken while attackingi keep pressing my buttons until the boss is out of ki
Anyone test critical memes yet?
>Hey, here's a cool countermove that styles on your enemies>Only works on human enemies, though :)If there is anything I greatly dislike about Nioh, it's this shit. And yeah, I get it, animating a unique parry animation for however many yokai there are in the game would not be feasible, but it still cracks my gourds.
>>557829638maybe im imagining things but i cleared all of them in ng and there are new ones appearing on the map in ng+
The best set for Samurai is;>7pc Vaisraivana>2pc Kintaro>2pc Warrior of the East>3pc Brave DemonThis gives you a generalist set with almost as much Martial Art damage as is possible for a Samurai. How you get there is up to you, but I'd suggest Kintaro Chest and Warrior of the East Waist, as well as Heavy Vaisravana Gloves and Boots (like Yamatai) with Brave Demon Helm and Brave Demon Off-weapon, I use fists because they are hidden when not selected. Then everything else Vaisravana.
>>557830189>>557826048
>>557830189>He doesn't rock just 5pc swordmaster with 1kat (no second weapon) and stay exclusively in mid stanceDo you even Nioh, bro?
>>557823075is there a list of these yet?
>>557830189>not A tier staminawhy do you guys even play the game to be big fat piggies that can barely move
>>557831261A agility is literally a button press away now.
i killed cunnymitsu why is his MysteryNigga still in my interim
Someone said there was a painting gesture I can't find it in the teahouse guys list is it from somewhere else?
>fuku, hanzo and the swordmaster die and train us in the interim>we go back in time three times, come back and save them but not really, go forward 300 years and then back to our own time again where we fix everything and they liveSo why are they in the interim at all? This plot is stupid.
>>557832921they leave after you save them dog
>>557832990They leave when you finish the dojo missions, you can leave those for ng+ if you want to.
>>557832921Because that's Hanzo, Fuku and Swordsmaster from the timeline where they died
>>557833065No, if you beat the dojo missions then they still stay there in the Rift until you save them.
>>557831261i play the game to water sword and watch the ki and hp bars go down to 0
Apparently the conch eboshi is based on historic japanese headwear but I didn't find any similar examples. If anyone knows more please say.
>>557818976Yes. Luck just makes shit drop in a higher tier on the drop table. It doesn’t increase the drop rate itself. Just like in Nioh 2, there are drop rate affixes that actually increase the drop rate.
>>557819168Because it doesn't increase the drop rate, just rarity.
>>557833590did you throw an LLM at it?
>>557821593>Losing a massive amount of Ki in every Arts Proficiency combo because bro didn’t even do a Ki Pulse.Shitty ass gameplay, anon. Spare two points in the Samurai skill for Dodge Ki Pulse, or learn how to Ki Pulse lmao.
do the japanese play these games and think "fuck yeah this story is so good" or do they get how shit it is too
>>557834158Oh no, I only got to chain 5 skills together in a seamless combo that the opponent either blocks and loses all ki or doesn't block and takes a shitload of damage!!You're a retard. There's no reason to ki pulse there over just chain them moves as fast as possible. I only started at 70% ki too so if I had full ki when I started it would go even longer.
yes good game, platinumized it after 47 hours playtime, enjoyable, have deleted and will return when the DLC launches with endgame next year, fun
>>557835347there's no way they do
>>557832921Because they're going to die of old age eventually, and I guess you can say that they take on the appearance that Takechiyo remembers them as.
>>557835626>>557835347you'd think it's universally bad, but i just played ace combat 7 and it's retarded nonsense. and dragons dogma 2 was the worst writing/story ive ever interacted with in modern video gaming. and death stranding. almost forgot that. holy fuck the writing was bad.these are all cherished japanese titles
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKI THOUGHT THE SPIDER PLACE WAS GOING TO BE IN THE 3RD AREA
>>557835347The plot of the Nioh games is mostly just a reimagining of real Japanese history and folklore, they would naturally understand the plot if they were actually taught about their own history. But then the Japanese have also always been into plots that may not click well with people in the west.
>>557836153>TN>bamco>capcomnone of these corps are renowned for good narratives
>spear special grapple (the one used by Honda Tadakatsu)>less damage than regular grappleWhat am I missing? Can it be comboed into something?
and kojima is just fucking retarded and doesn't care about plot at all, it's all just setup to create emotional moments
so, um, yeahafter beating this on NG I don’t really have a desire to go NG+ due to everything just feeling so…low effort? I dunno, it feels like they phoned this one in, Rise Of The Ronin felt more ‘complete’, meh, I’ll probably come back when the season pass is all finished and out and on sale, disappointing
>>557836153Japanese writing is best when you have to piece together the plot yourself, like in the Souls games, and that's not a glaze of the Souls games' writing, it's still shit, just more engaging when you have to actively work at it yourself
>>557822736This.All my favorite shit is on ninja. And there's still a bunch of my favorite sets missing from the game entirely on top of that.
the absolute balls on these Chinese dev fucks for slapping their decade old assets on top of a bunch of generic, boring open-world slop filled maps AND charging $80 + tip for the privilege of fighting enemies you’ve already been fighting for years in the previous games
why is /v/ here
How do I actually use Katana? Am I just supposed to ignore regular combos and spam the 1button press cutscene martial arts?
New skill that needs to be added: style shift burst break while in the air.
>>557839115im learning it now and that seems to be the case
>>557839115yeahspecifically reverse impact does 10000000 damage for near zero investment besides being unable to adjust the attack angle after starting
>>557834085No, not really into that and my local models won't know.
>>557839549>not really into that??? it's a tool, not an ideology
>>557839621Is there an online LLM I can use without having to connect an account?
>>557839931highly unlikely
>>557840012I'm not into it then.For other anons in NG+, do Itsumade have a weirdly high amount of health?
this spot gives lots of fucking trash
>>557836153That's because they're games. Also AC7 had fun characters banter which is all you need for a game about blasting shit Kojimbo was only good when he had his shadow writer with him.
Where are my goddamn yasakani AAAAAAAA
>>557837156I think it generates more spirit or something?
>>557836264>The plot of the Nioh games is mostly just a reimagining of real Japanese history and folkloreNioh 3 sort of abandoned that, didn't it?
People here always namedrop martial art names and I'm always like:>what was that again>search>oh that one!
>>557840792ive only got 1 since the boss guarantee drops and it dropped out of a lootable corpse 5 steps into next area. none since
>>557830189>Brave Demon Off-weaponbut anon only your active weapon counts for bonuses
>apply lightning debuff to boss>the timings change and he destroys me
>mfw a warriors honor from clan bonus
>>557840474If anything they are made of paper compared to the ones in 2.
>>557841449this desu
>>557840546>That's because they're gamesit wouldn't absolve them if i weren't just talking relatively to other games
>>557841462?
>>557841517the ones in 2 have wayyyyy too much hp and damage
Can't wait to play the game again in a year when all the DLC are out and free updates better balance the game and add new skills.
>>557843017the complete edition is always better
I have used coop for every single boss first try. Cant be arsed anymore
>>557843294I've summoned two blue graves in 2 cycles, and that's only because people put them close to intractable objects. I don't understand why you need help.
>>557843294you did not beat the game
>>557843294Shamefur Dispray
>>557835365Yeah but you could do Pulse Flux Flux Frost Moon to transition stances, do a free offensive skill, recover Ki, and mostly importantly look cooler.
>>557843748I used them a couple times when they were NPCs that had normal looking names. Weren't there some quests you unlocked by summoning? Or was that only in Dark Souls?
is the "incense" whatever battle scroll the only yokai heavy one?
>>557851068yokai heavy boss rush*
>>557851068yes
>>557842695free 50% dmg
>>557817974His regular attacks weren't too bad once you learned his timing, its was the fucking red charge attack. Its like Ornstein's spear thrust where the hitbox was like a foot in front of the spear itself, you need to do the burst counter JUST as he starts to charge at you otherwise its too late, and missing it is almost always a one shot. I can forgive the hair smash to his side since the telegraph is different from the rest of his attacks, I can forgive the tentacle smash in front, I can even forgive the headbutt since he pauses for a second before and you can just block it, but the red attack is bullshit. Also he usually starts the fight with it, so you zone in and he's immediately starting his red attack just as you gain control of your character.
bye
>>557853651yamete!
>>557848542Unoptimal in this situation.
>wildfire flux + versality I get it now I understand what it means to be a nioh
Is it true that Sudama Blessing is split between the items selected and I should select only yasakani and nothing else if I'm trying for it?
>>557853651Based.
>>557853651NO THATS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE NIOH WAY
>>557854254Frost Moon counts too
>>557854254Add full Benzeiten and then spam moves that deal continues damage.
>>557853651>your family, brother>literally only wanted title, admitted he knew he was better than protag in every way>tries to kill everyone because hes Evil™>succeeds because see above >makes you go on a stupid ass time traveling schizophrenic fever dream quest >kill like 100000 demons and go through actual hell beating up random literal who people>finally get through his maze of evil and torture >beat his ass>tries to make you feel bad by acknowledging his evil cringe and pretending to be sorry and killing himself>randomly implied that he's controlled by a literal who but doesn't actually matter because see abovei would instantly turn him into a pancake with my hammer before he could even talk
>>557855345TRUE + BASED
>>557855345Ieyasu was completely in the right to step in and assure Iemitsu would be the next Shogun.Too many warlord families collapsed by choosing the seemingly more talented second son (grandson for Ieyasu).
>>557856016>However, in 1620, he had a falling out with his homosexual lover, Sakabe Gozaemon, a childhood friend and retainer, aged twenty-one, and murdered him as they shared a bathtuband thats the last time i read about japanese history in the interest of discourse
>>557856480I feel like I've seen info one day, that Taked Shingen was also into shuudo, and there is one of his letters where he pleads with his wife that he wasn't unfaithful to her because he couldn't spend the night with his boy lover even if he wanted to because the boy had diarrhea.
>>557857016i had to look up that termthe 3 samurai teachings >way of the ninja>way of the samurai>way of sex with young boysthere is no way this is real
>>557856480Kek. I guess thats why he hated Christians.
>>557857551>is evil because hes secretly gaytracks
I don't understand the Teracotta Soldiers. They randomly take huge damage from my attacks and I can't figure out when.
>>557824718dishonest arguments
>>557858062wut
>>557858057
>>557826419Nioh has always been the bastard child of diablo and ninja gaiden with fromsoft as the distant step parent, onimusha and DMC are the supportive gay uncles that watch it on the weekends.
I can't flux
>DLC 2>Christian gets amrita>"Takechiyo-chan-sama is evil because he's gay! and possibly trans">I MUST MASSACRE YOUR ENTIRE RELIGION THIS AMRITA JUST GIVES ME THE EXCUSE
>>557858349>electrify one>katana goes through it like through butter>electrify another>still made of stoneam I retarded? make it make sense.
>>557858763maybe cause the other was in a yokai realm idk
guess I'm done until the game is finished huh
>>557858763>>557859040use raijin (lightning) on mid stance, takes care of them in a couple of hits
It feels really weird to play without stances on hatchets. Recommend me another weapon to try anons as this is the one i played the most in Nioh2. I like them but its starting to get repetitive after 15h.
>>557854254how does this fucking thing work
>>557826419Meh, if you removed the ki pulse system I still think it would be better than the average soulslike, the base combat is still better than mostI hate this genre though so I can't say, for sure I only like Nioh.
>>557860228The addition of more ki pulse attacks and arts proficiency actually made me like ki pulse.
>>557858763high IQ hereprobably when the yellow shit in them glows
>>557857918truuueeeeeeeeeeee
>>5578592052KAT2KAT
>>557858057After fighting like three of these guys, I just started running past them. Same with the giant slugs. Antiquities was the worst part of the game.
>>557858057They become vulnerable during their attacks. It is cringe and Himiko is there for a reason.
>>557858763they put yellow paint on them for you anon
i think i can stop playing now
I'm still only at heian but I'm gonna speed up a bit. There's no point in trying to finish everything when I'll come back for NG+ anyway
Joke 1st phases should be illegal.
What main elements are you guys using? I'm using Wind and Fire (throwing 1 sharpnel bomb instantly procs fire) with the wind calamity and weapon imbuing wind. Would water be superior to Wind in all aspects?
>>557833590
>>557865634Water and elect, because of the spirits I use, and some of the martial move I have are also water and electricity. I still have some fire ninjuts.
>>557854254I just recently discovered this kino also its weird I went through all the games for thousands of hours and always stuck to one weapon and 1 stance but out of nowhere it just clicked for me in nioh 3 and now I'm a samurai fist GAWD pulling off crazy combos and chaining martial arts proficiency for like 10 combos in a row
>>557865634Lightning onibi before the fight because Axe can do fire and water naturally. Kongojishi punch for wind.
So any theories about the DLC?If Kunimatsu survives, it seems he and MC start switching their roles and dick around killing yokaiFirst DLC seems to happen a few months after MC's death in real world, so i guess Kunimatsu will die for real and MC will become a full fledged demon hunter?
whats the trick to switchglaive
>>557867278no we're just going to hell that is focused on reusing assets from the rest of the games with dudes we can fightthe end of the story content of the DLC has some one asks us why we went to hell in the first place, cue our actions killing a lot of Christians
>mfw the entire finaleGenuinely liked the whole monkey paw deal with future Kunimatsu and implications that his tormented spirit wandered through different eras until he found it in himself to resist Hiruko.
>>557865634the ninja spirit that gives you random element weaponfor some reason i get so much spirit force i can just spam spirit skills 24/7and then mix with calamity ninja "tools" or whatever the fuck magicelement from spirit carries over to samurai to everything confusedeven me
>>557868905>the ninja spirit that gives you random element weaponwhy in the absolute fuck he's a ninja spirit when he belonged to Oda
any other use for amritas? i'm only on the second area and already at level 75 when the recommended is ~60
The skill that allows you to charge amrita gauge on guardian skills + pleiades effect on gear leads to absolutely ridiculous amount of living artifact buildup wtf
>extract like 2000 weapons>can upgrade weapon to +5 and run outwhy
>>557869172no
>Hiruko has been trapped in the Eternal RiftWhat? I live there. Why can't I just stab him real good with the amrita sword? Genuinely.
>>557869172Levels don't mean shit.
>>557858763They only take damage during their active attack animationsThey have shit tracking, you're supposed to find a way to hit them while they're swinging without being hit, ie. be at their side or whiff punish
anything more dogshit and useless than this sand system?
lmao Todo is the highest population clan by more than ten million
>>557870771Sand wat?
>>557871117But Kakizaki is winning
>>557871117How does that even work? There ain't ten million players are there?
>>557865436I haven't gotten so pissed off at a game for quite a while. kek
>>557865634Lightning became actually detrimental with slower speeds messing with deflect and evade rhythms
>>557871603I love seeing the clips of people using sloth then trying to dodge any kind of sweeping attacks and dodging into the slowed down hitbox of the boss.
Finally got a second Yasakani bros
It doesn't stack btw, for you poverty stricken down on your luck failures who've only got one btw
>>557871227you start getting this sand BULLSHIT in ng+, it lets you redo enemy bases and things. it's worthless except for gaining some more spirit... points. otherwise arbitrary and useless>webmi could be wrong, but the i find doing the switch to high stance is just not worth itgood honorable gameplay though
>>557872073I got like 5. None of the grace I want.
>>557872229I've gotten none
If I switch a clan, do I lose the rank permanently or will I regain it if I join later?
>>557872421Are there any yokai that only appear in the bases that you need to farm for soul cores?
>>557872705You keep any rank you've unlocked.
>>557872672I think you're guaranteed a drop of both a ninja and samurai one the first time you beat the fish man in ng+
>>557872421It's mainly a Ki thing, keeping the recoverable Ki from the previous sequence instead of dropping it to cancel to a skill, I'm sure going into skill finishers will deal better DPS but you'll have Ki issues earlier. Unless you mean you only do the low>mid switchstance swaps?
>baba noharuWhat an insanely shit fight. Radahn afterimages ruined gaming.
>>557872753not that i know of. i think the system is just half-baked
>>557873187ez first try
>>557873068yea i meant low -> med -> low, etc
>>557873415Beat him next try after posting this but man, what a fucking annoying fight. Can't beat this guy clean. Keep trading hits.
Which clan for onmyo? It seems like Kajiwara might be good for the pseudo-sloth attached to every spell but none of the other clans seem to have anything other than that one with the flat +25 onmyo
>>557867314ring of repick
>>557874104the sloth on spells was absolutely cracking in nioh 2 since it applied to guardian abilities as well so ho-oh is a fucking 15 second sloth as well as almost instantly proccing purity
Kasha belongs to the streets. Sex with Senji women.
TN's 1kat favoritism is out of control. It's the only weapon I see in co-op and seeing Severing Spin 3 times per shitmob is a nightmare.
>>557876258did a tuber make a video on it or somethin lol
>>557876258RotR was worse in that regard.
>>557876258I often use 1kat and I don't even know what " Severing Spin" is.
>>557876258it's just that one skill...i hope they are capable of balancing things, so i dont feel like im handicapping myself for variety
>>557876647crucible skill, you stagger and slice up everything around you. it's an insane cheatcode
>>557876258ninjabros...
>>557876258I see way more ninja confusion spam.
>>557876318No idea but as someone who mained 1kat in all the games, that shit is beyond broken. It has a built in deflect, AOE stagger and really good dmg in a massive AOE.I honestly don't know what they were thinking lol. It should be nerfed desu.
>>557876981I tried it and it looked shit
cool game
I'm getting one shot in these level synced boss rush missions at the end of NG+ and it takes like 2 minutes of chipping away at their health chaining fluently in arts proficiency
>>557877921>bodylets
>>557877869How squishy are you?
>>557869726Because that place has a shitload of islands you cannot visit. You can see Hide's island in a wall crack.
>they still didn't fix todo
>>557876258Severing spin is not even in like top 10 most powerful skills in the game.
>>557873187>afterimagesBut they're beforeimages
>>557877869Those fuckers have always hit extremely hard, and ninja are squishy in general
>>557878206>>557878786It's nothing to do with being squishy, it's the bug where they roll against a wall and drop 300 fire patches on the same spot on the ground and TN haven't fixed it in 9 years
>>557878721Rank them
>>557878557*laughs in 8k health*
>>557878545I bet I could get over there with Tonfa's air moves
>>557878932Half the fist moveset will occupy the first spots. Probably starting with devastating rush and kick cycle since it enables absolutely degenerate brain off playstyle.
TN in charge of fixing the game
>>557878721Axe's Victory Rush is the strongest. Axe's Tornado Edge is the second strongest
>Odachi received a bunch of fundamental changes that completely change the feel of the weapon and a shitload of new moves>Spear received like 1 new moveWhat's with the odachi favoritism
>>557879820the icon looks a little like 1kat and a dev got confused
>>557879372>TN: what if you can chain those together?
>>557879820>Spear received like 1 new moveDid it actually get a new one? I don't count any of those elemental ones as new.
>>557877869>femalekek>n*njaDeserved
1kat is obviously the strongest SAM weapon but what's the /vg/verdict on NIN?
>>557880495It got a new aerial move, you do spins in the air, the higher you are the more spins you end up doing. Ending with a slam
goddamn it why hasnt anyone datamined the entire blueprint list!
>>557881061Oh nice. Well that's something at least.
>>557880932Tonfa for ki, hatchets = 2kat for aerial gimmick (very strong), 1kat everywhere else.
what ninja weapon should I main?neither claws nor splitstaff scale off of skill and its starting to bug me
>>557882069I have no idea how to make talons do dmg. Everything hits like a feather duster.
>>557878916At this point I'm halfway convinced they're leaving it in because they think it's funny
>>557881441If you use the transmog mod you can use her chest piece as armor its just the necklace with the dumb default wraps though
>>557879372lmao
Why do I have to check a box to verify I'm human to access the captcha to solve it? Isn't that the whole point of the captcha to begin with??
>>557877869lmao
level scaling actually made the incense boss rush painful as hell @ lvl 230 because i neglected any sort of build
>>557882069tonfa, 1kat, 2kat
>>557882069also you can just change the reference stats bro...
>>557884267How/whenStill on the first map, nearly done with itIm also kinda disappointed with the moves it got, havent seen shadowstep yet but right now there is no reason to not just spam whirls
>>557884521they gate off the blacksmith features way more than previous games for no reason, keep on with the story until the blacksmith gives you quests to unlock it
Does Maeda clan's defense reduction still go up as you rank up in the clan? Or is it fixed now?
>>557884728Honestly think its so you try out a lot of different weapons rather than zero in on one favorite from the get go. Also with how much smithing costs they probably didn't want you bankrupting yourself from the first map.
>>557877869out fuckin skilled
whats the difference between defence and base defence on armour?
>>557881441I made my mistakes
>>557885468Base defense can be affected by more multipliers.
>>557884728Money is being hard gated too, I've never seen a Nioh game where it's so hard to get money before.
how do you fight these guys with scythe WITHOUT infinite retribution?
>>557879283...Worst part is that's not even the only time Yoshitsune's AI can break, when he goes for the burst attack off the posts I've had him infinitely jump on a post.
>do her quest>get a single piece of her bakumatsu set>2 hours later>I haven’t gotten another pieceWhere the fuck does this drop
>>557879283>>557886737I'm hardstuck on this guy for some reason. I could manage Ibaraki, but not this guy. What the fuck is wrong with me
Why is Takechiyo so strong? With Hide it made sense since he was a demon but isn't Takechiyo just Tokugawa's grandkid so basically just a human?Almost finished the first map so if it's revealed later no need to tell me.
So what are the new weapon types compared to Nioh2, Ninja 1kat 2kat and Talons? Is any of those fun and worth to try out?
>>557887463Kusanagi makes you pretty capable just by default
>>5578875811kat really make you FEEL like a ninja imo.
>>557887463huuuuge nepo baby with the best trainers power and money can afford (atleast to tokugawa's taste) still not initially better then tryhard younger brother until a trip into the past I bet kunimitsu did some time traveling too
What the fuck is the difference between Mist and normal evade on ninja? Apart from evade having seemingly much more iframes.
>>557885976because there's nothing to spend it on until you get forging and reforging
>>557888426mist has no iframes, but they'll swing at your afterimage. it's a movement option that's better than a dodge (that isnt going to be an evade)
>>557888426there are a bunch of skills specific to each and mist creates a shadow clone that distracts the enemy if you do it close to them
>>557886415okay i figured it out; a lot of your high stance has enough poise and ki damage to bust through blocking/defensive humans. your poke fucking sucks so that's your only gameplan, but it's a good one
Can I abandon mission after getting collectibles I missed?
>>557889448ye
Does this just mean that my ninja weapon will scale with like stamina if I have an axe equipped on samurai?
>>557877869skill issue
i cant fking believe i did full game and ng+ without using this explains y its popular lol
>>557890251a lot of people really suck at video games and need crutches like this, yeah
>>557890251Honestly it’s mega bugged right now and just flat out doubles your hp no matter what. I turned it off the second I realized.
>>557890251You didn't beat the game
>>557890625i just unlocked todo and im lvl 215 lol
>>557888572Why is it better for movement? Dodge on low encumbrance on Ninja takes me comically far, feels like its more distance than mist. Is it because mist is instantaneous?
What cancel are we doing when we raw dog Frost Moon attacks on weapons like 1kat or 2kat without cum gauge? The recovery is wild on mid and high FM but even fast burst counter cancel seems to only save single digit frames
>>557890251game is easy af regardless but yeah, what is going on here lol
>>557891027does something weird with your skill points + lifei went from 2900 to this
>>557891316Oh wtf that's way more than I'm getting
>>557889832yeah but you can just change it at the blacksmith anywaykinda a waste of slot unless im missing something
>>557890891because it messes with their ai for half a second which is kinda nice, especially when there's multiple enemies. sometimes they waste an attack on it. you'll find some consistent openings with it. you want to get the evade when you can though
>>557890625One person's opinion.
>>557891467a warriors honor is also just like 50% free melee dmg no idea whats going on with this game, feels ai generated
ALSO, splitstaff + mist is busted. everyone is sleeping on one of the biggest cheatcodes
>>557891809lmao it does. so many arbitrary decisions on their end. the reality is that we're beta testing. it's basically an early access game until at least one of the DLC are out
I wish ninja 1Katana had a little more moves to choose from, weapon feels kind of barebones with the amount of choice, and amount of stuff that can be assigned at the same time.
>>557891860Shin breaker with the mastery that gives more hits when extended is once again a ki shredder, just doesn't come out as fast as it did in 2. If we get mystic dyad again I'm sure splitstaff will feel a lot better.
is it possible to have to many effects on your character and bug them out?i have like 200 active
Is there a point in which the blacksmith has reasonable prices at NG+? Currently at Bakamatsu and the soul extraction still has huge exponential scaling for the price. I noticed that entering Heian the prices for enhancing Guardians chilled out and wondering if/when Tomo isn't charging hundreds of millions of gold per piece of gear.
>>557893294no, i think its supposed to be impossibledue to >>557890717it went from +6 to +10 free prolly some kind of tech in there
>>557882069>>557884521There's also a samurai skill you can use that will make the ninja weapons mirror the refreence stats of the samurai weapons in the same slot so slot 1 Odachi means my Ninja's Slot 1 Hatchets have the magic/stam/strength scaling or w/e
>>557892050That's just Ninja in general but yeah, 1kat has like half the moveset sharing F+Triangle
>>557893907Hatchets seem to be the biggest winner among Ninja weapons as far as move set variety goes.
I spam martial arts way more than my standard attacks, is that normal
>>557894150Depends on weapon.
>>557894150it depends on the weapon, but usually, yea
>>557893426How far are you in NG+ for your price tag on the blacksmith? Was too busy getting to the first crucible at Bakamatsu and growing a pair of balls. Beat a Bloodedge demon on my first try for the first time. Ninja Inari is so fucking real.
>>557894406>>557894430Samurai sword. Nightrain and Severing Spin for aoe groups is carrying me
>>5578946571kat is decent with the basic combos but as you've seen the martial arts are the real show stoppers.
How do you dodge shingen's grab?
>>557896357Roll forward into him if you are close. He will whiff entirely since his grab doesn't track hard.
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