Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith./ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicleshttps://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c>Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs>DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfchttps://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk>PC Trailerhttps://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is>Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFwhttps://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTGQ>Dissidia Duelum Final Fantasyhttps://youtu.be/zLM7V3jrNNc>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis>>>/vmg/1916155>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtmlPrevious thread: >>557451421
And reminder that the fatherless constantly samefags, so if someone typing like him agrees with him... get suspicious.
FFXVI is a bad game.
>>557957249Make em seethe, Warrior of Light-CHAD.
>>557959265>>557959276you already got him seething before you even entered the thread champs
It seems that we need to be reminded of /ffg/'s official rules:As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Matsuno, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, or E33 we will be fine.As long as no one makes any positive or neutral remarks about XIV, XVI, Yoshida, CS3, Spirits Within, or Sakaguchi we will be fine.Oh, and take care to also not agree with anyone's /ffg/ approved positive or negative opinions too much. Also remember that if you disobey any of the rules, this automatically puts you into the opposing category of posters. There are no exceptions. These are the rules.
Reminder that Final Fantasy XVI, XIV, and IV are /ffg/'s TOP THREE Final Fantasy games.Anyone saying negative things about these games is a shitposter or a tourist.
>>557959552>>557959851This dude is literally always here arguing and shitposting and ritual posting this suicide note, without ever sharing any FF images or screenshots of his waifu SpheneLiterally just ritual posts his own suicide note every single thread
>>557959891Your schizophrenia is showing, anon.
>>557959891Nice one.
>Lightning is first and foremost a sister>then an abandoned daughter>then a symbolic mother and guardian for one who needs her most>then a friendHoly fucking based...Thet's who she is. That's why we LOVE her!
Which shit poster is the tranny hater pseud that was masturbatory waxing about truth and shit I know y'all have little nicknames for everyone
>>557959352The day is ending in Y after all
>>557959891>still so completely mindbroken about losing his own shitpost poll that he has become obsessed with Sphene for some reasonNot everyone feels the needs to constantly avatarfag their posts, dear little one. That's something that only (You) and /xivg/ posters do.
>>557960151isnt that just the lightning faggot?
>>557960151What, did he struck a nerve? You can refute his words any minute.
So, who won last thread?
>XVI is a guy who has incest sex with a guy who trans
>>557960334Nobody wins, posting here is an auto -L
>>557960334XVI, XIV, and IV win every thread until someone decides it is time for a new week long poll.See >>557959851
>>557960151It's most likely the Lightning avatarfag or maybe the Emetranny avatarfag. Or possibly Vanillefag, but that one seems far fetched. Bottom line, it's one of the avatarfags.
Before you start talking negatively about Naoki Yoshida, FFXIV, or FFXVI, just remember he's a human being.
>>557959851>73 votes>in this general that has maybe 4 to 5 active people
>>557960334Me.XV is not FNC.Trannies defeated.XIII good.XV good.XVI good.VIIR good.Team Asano games based and FF.Lightning is the Goddess.Final Fantasy Forever.
>>557960426lol
Can a being without gender be trans?
>>557960552The poll was posted to multiple Final Fantasy threads across the website and you could vote once per day. Moreover, the poll creator stated that he would accept the results of the poll no matter what.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/552279106/#q552596948>I think it's going to be great. The question is, will the results be contested? I can promise you that I will accept the results of the poll. I have no problem with letting the people voice their minds.
>>557960762i've seen enough shitposting about XVI to believe this website would so monumentally agree on it being good all the sudden.Plus everyone knows FFV is the best one
>>557960283I guess that makes sense. >>557960287Refute lmao Lightning is clearly not trans in any way so nothing to argue there, and no point in arguing with a fedora about hating trannies. Other than that, he had no point, just dumping smug ramblings to try sounding less like a chud (it did the opposite)
>>557960552Oh buddy, there were A LOT more fake votes for XVI than just 73, that's just how many were put in AFTER results were made public! The total was well over 100 spammed votes.Before Yoshitroon started spamming the poll with literally hundreds of votes, XVI only had 3 votes, less than even FFXIII.
>>557960552>>557961151It's important to remember that the poll creator deleted games that he didn't like from the poll, resetting their votes. He did this multiple times. He also did not include Tactics originally.
>>557961078>Lightning is clearly not trans in any way so nothing to argue thereGood.
>>557961267Kek
>>557960762The funniest part is knowing that you took the poll extremely seriously, even posting the poll after it was obviously being rigged and everyone was laughing at it. You have been nonstop shitposting the botted results for weeks now.I mean, holy fucking gotten to. You're truly OBSESSED.
>>557961267"The poll creator" owns your mind
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pxZFgiap_ENomura ships themTherefore that's canon now.
>>557961445>You have been nonstop shitposting the botted results for weeks now.No no no no no, I have been setting the record straight and telling the truth only after the poll already becomes the topic of conversation by someone else's hand. >I mean, holy fucking gotten to. You're truly OBSESSED.You're the one who has now become obsessed with Sphene and the images that people do or do not post for some reason.>>557961581No, I don't even bring the poll up. I comment on the poll after it is already the topic of conversation. Some people like to neglect to tell people the full details of how it was rigged by the poll creator.
Should I buy one of those little controller things for my phone to play classic ff games? Or just get a little retro handheld like an ambernic or something
>>557961816Personally, I'd sooner get a dedicated emulator device or maybe even a Switch (possibly modified) than carry around a controller for my phone. I don't really play games if I'm not at home though.
>>557960552To add to >>557961267The poll was a week long and all users were allowed to vote multiple times but only once per day.>>557961151Why do so many games have votes removed then? If XVI's votes were faked then where are the 10+ votes for X in the final tally?
is it good or bad etiquette to report botting players? i normally ignore it but this cunt denied me my hunts for half an hour. yes im new
>>557961625>Rose is the key for them bothFragrant Fantasy...
>>557962359What game?
>>557962359what are you playing bro
>>557962359Always report bots. Especially those posting in ffg.
>>557962280>Why do so many games have votes removed then?I'm not him, but to answer your question, he actively deleted games that he didn't like to remove their votes, and then he "added them back" to the poll, resetting their votes to zero. He did this multiple times. Additionally, he seems to have done a reset for each individual day, "resetting" the votes on a daily basis, but that is speculation based on the results that he attention whored and desired for people to ask him about, wishing for the entire thread to revolve solely around his whims, as is customary for his demeanor. When he made the results public (which he told me is something that I asked for, even though I asked for something different, and/or for the results to be public when the poll was first created), he again reset everything, but it seems that he did not further reset the results after he made the poll public. Or maybe he did once or twice, I don't exactly remember.
>>557962537>>557962550>>557962561ffxiv. they mildly inconvenienced me and i swear death unto their account
>>557962280Each days results were posted though. And everyone knew that the Yoshitter was spamming the votes after the very first night, because I revealed him doing it.If you feign ignorance of this then just go back and look. It was all documented. https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/552617742/#q552712638
>>557962687I dunno if you can report botting. Only harassment, "lethargic gameplay" (aka griefing), and real money trading.
>>557962712This has always just been cope. The same tools to manipulate results were open to all games. XVI was no more botted than any other game.YOU however held the sole ability to remove games throughout the process and frequently abused it. If anyone tampered with the poll it was you faggot. You were the only one removing shit and doing it in a retarded way.
I'll never forget watching him jump between spamming VIIR, XV, and SoP after he kept getting cockblocked from spamming XVI.I mean, how can someone make themselves so obvious?
>>557962902it would file under cheating in other games ive dealt with, but the entire reason im questioning it here is because ffxiv people are fucking insane so i was somewhat hesitant
>>557963012In the worst case, you can try, but I think you have to do it from the website?
>>557962712this poll looks right>>557959851this one looks like a shitpostThat's is. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.
>>557962972And we'll never forget watching your own poll ass rape you every night after you got exposed for cooking the book.
>>557962687based
>>557962520>Fragrant Fantasybased
>>557963074nah you can do so in game, which is kinda neat. the whole support center is in the game which ill give credit where its due, is quite nice
My wife Eiko is cute!
>>557963120KEK true
>>557963317>cutebased
>>557962932God damn you're fucking mad about easily verified vote spam. It was OBVIOUSLY fucking spammed because no other game was spammed the same.I watched it. Hours and hours this dude was spamming votes. I posted the proof of it live as it was happening, many laughs were had at his expense. He wouldn't stop spamming XVI and XIV and Tactics and so I removed them, wrote down the old vote total, and one by one added them back to the list, while watching him spam. Just go back and look for yourself. And instead of being a Yoshi sucking cultist, just use your eyes and not your vagina. Over 30 mass votes were spammed in less than one hour that first night. Over 100 spammed votes were counted up by the next morning, DOUBLING the previous days entire total in just a few hours. Over 60 of those spammed votes were for XVI.He spammed XVI well over 100 times total, and you're still sitting here all these weeks later gaslighting everyone here like they can't just go back and look at the archive to see it for themselves.You fucking lost. You're an embarrassment. You took a fun poll, and you turned it into a cult shitpost.
>>557962359Who cares about etiquette? No one is going to know you're the one who reported it. Honestly, he probably wont even be banned though unless it's pretty egregious botting. We are in an age where botting looks like legitimate play.
Aerisu!
>>557963586see https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/552279106/#q552596948>I think it's going to be great. The question is, will the results be contested? I can promise you that I will accept the results of the poll. I have no problem with letting the people voice their minds.(You) promised that (You) would accept the results of the poll. You also posed the question "will the results be contested?", to which the answer seems to be that only (You), the poll creator, the person who said he'd accept the results - only (You) are contesting them. What an ironic turn of affairs, wouldn't you say?
>>557963586If one game can be spammed then all games can be spammed and they all play on the same equal footing. If a game is not being spammed then that game is clearly not popular so the results still show which is the most popular game.You however can't accept anything other than your own warped perception of game popularity and decided to remove games at your own whims when they began to see traction.Reminder though, you said you would adhere to the final results. And yet here you are still crying like the bitch you are.
>>557963203Oh you can do that? I always thought you could only report from for RMT. Man, if I knew that, I'd have reported these assholes who WALKED through a dungeon because "it's his first time".
>>557963652instantly moving the second an enemy spawns into the world outside of your visibility and repeating that cycle for the same 3 spawns for over an hour is pretty obvious botting
>>557963109Deny your lying eyes! You're supposed to believe that it's just a massive coincidence that the clear vote trend from day 1 and 2 completely halted the moment vote results were made public. Everyone just instantly decided to start voting for XVI and nothing else and that was completely kosher. There's nothing to see here, and if you say that the poll was obviously rigged, well then you're just coping because FFXVI is the bestest evar (no I don't own the PS5)
>>557963807Aerisu!
>>557963835>(You) promised that (You) would accept the results of the pollNta but is this because you started spamming the poll? Okay.
>>557964015>Nta but is this because you started spamming the poll? Okay.No, """Nta""", I never even voted in the poll. It was purely shitpost fuel from the moment it was created, and still continues to be shitpost fuel. It was never genuine, so I never voted in it.
The poll creating butthurt niggerfaggot removed my write in votes for Lightning’s Penis.Hey dumb ass! If you don’t want to see people dunk on you for being a retard don’t open up your poll for write in votes!
>>557964008>i literally cannot fathom that XVI is insanely popularWe get it already.
>>557964015Reminder it was the polls creator that spammed the poll outside of ffg.
>>557964290No, actually that was me. I posted the poll to lots of Final Fantasy threads across the website. He's extremely butthurt that I did this and he's now obsessed with Sphene because of it.
>>557964008I honestly don't understand why you're falling for their bait at all. One poll is definitely organic (>>557962712), the other is definitely fucking impossible (>>557959851). That's it. End of conversation. Now I wish local shitposters would hang themselves or at least discuss Final Fantasy more.
No wonder Yoshit-Hack killed the series.
>>557963909I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that even if a GM wanted to ban a player for botting, it might be difficult to prove that it's botting behavior, because botting behavior is now very close to human behavior.
>>557964551>Now I wish local shitposters would hang themselves or at least discuss Final Fantasy more.When one person isn't shitting the thread up, people do actually talk about Final Fantasy. Hint: it's when people aren't avatarfagging. I know you don't like this fact, but it's the truth.
>>557960334FFXIII, FFXV, and FFVII.
Yes unbiased Yoshitter..you certainly did share that link to /xivg/ and to /v/ quite a lot. On a daily basis. Thread after thread. And you made sure to say that it was all "very important" to you. I mean, it's been almost 2 months and you're still ritual posting about it endlessly for attention, defending the integrity of the obviously fake poll in front of everyone for weeks of your life.You also happened to be the person who posted "the final results" when it was over. You were highly emotional about the whole ordeal.Maybe because you knew that I wasn't even there to witness it?
>>557961950Yeah a little Gameboy thing is probably the move. I actually feel like that's less stupid looking somehow than attaching a gamepad to my phone. (Both are embarrassing but you know what I mean)
>>557964943Who are you talking to? Are you off your meds again?
>>557964751>filename Irrefutable.
>>557964619i think they'll be able to notice. affecting a free trial user negatively may hold more weight than usual, especially since its also the first report ive made since playing. nothing will happen until something happens
>>557965003Why answer your own posts?
>>557964551The post is deeply sarcastic, Selphie-kun>>557964585He might not have a good game that people actually recommend to other people, but he does have VPN spammed votes in a 4chan shitpost poll.>>557964751Now that's what I call irrefutable.
>>557965121Nope. Gonna cry?
>>557964747>no uYou forgot your Final Fantasy, dog. Final Fantasy discussion place, not your twitter and not your safe space. I know you don't like this fact, but it's the truth.>>557964585>No wonder Yoshit-Hack killed the series.He didn't. FF is okay, brand recognition is very, very high in US still. They just need to unfuck themselves and start making AAA games every 2-3 years. And no crazy experiments anymore, so people have a better idea of what to expect from the series.
One true love and tender kissu! Canon and cute couple!
>>557965261If the last 2 years of this thread is anything to go by, I think he is going to cry.And it's going to continue for a long while.
>>557965261I notice you're not answering the question, and then you answer yourself some more.Weird!
>>557965425Good. He can join Yoshi-Cry.>>557965578Already answered. Are you retarded, little crybaby?
>>557965578You struck a nerve, he's STILL not answering.
>>557965578Yessss, very good. I am the man behind every single post you don't like.I am the shadow on the moon at night, filling your dreams to the brim with fright.
>>557964993He's doing his pussy ass bitch thing that he does when he lost where he doesn't actually reply to the post that made him upset.>>557964943>unbiased YoshitterUnbiased, yes. "Yoshitter", no.>you certainly did share that link to /xivg/ and to /v/ quite a lotIt depends on what you mean by "quite a lot". I did seek out Final Fantasy threads across multiple boards, including boards you did not name. >On a daily basis. Thread after thread. No, not on a daily basis. And "thread after thread" implies, for example, that I posed it in every /xivg/ thread (a very fast thread), which also is not the case. >And you made sure to say that it was all "very important" to you. Not "very important" to me, but indeed very important to (You).>you're still ritual posting about it endlessly for attentionNope. I never post about the poll until it is already the topic of conversation, and I only do so because you routinely neglect to tell the entire truth. Often you blatantly lie, like most of the things in this post of yours. >defending the integrity of the obviously fake poll in front of everyone for weeks of your life.I'm glad you called your own poll "fake". And I don't defend the integrity of the poll, I defend the integrity of the situation surrounding your shitpost poll. You *never* tell the whole truth, and you also have a habit of blatantly lying, like you are now. >You also happened to be the person who posted "the final results" when it was over. Nope, not me. >You were highly emotional about the whole ordeal.Also, no.>Maybe because you knew that I wasn't even there to witness it?What does this even mean? This supposes that I'm every post ever made that you dislike, when I am not. Are you talking about the person who posted the final results? I didn't post those, nor do I keep tabs on you. I do know for a fact that you are here even during times when you say you aren't though. That's for sure.
^^^^ this dude never ever calls out the off topic spammer because they both love Yoshi/XIV
Notice how this shit only happens when Lightning avatarfag is avatarfagging and stirring up shit on purpose, and that it never happens when he's not avatarfagging and not shitposting on cooldown. When no one is avatarfagging, there are actually people talking about Final Fantasy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dcPrec5vlw
Yesss! Give me more power over you.Every single time you are shitposting off topic, it's always actually all my fault. Very very good. Let the hate flow through you.
>>557965945It's well know that unbiased-sissy has to defend Yoshita and his slopgames no matter what.
>>557965578He answered the question, retard.Also "Why answer your own posts?" spam doesn't make sense here, in a place where everyone can write via inspection whatever the fuck they want, including removal of "(You)", you stupid animal. I then suggest you stop this low IQ spam and resort to discussing what you like in FF.
>>557965983This shit only happens because you're mentally ill and chimp every time Lightning is posted.
>>557965945>>557966229>^^^^ this dude never ever calls out the off topic spammer because they both love Yoshi/XIVAnother tiny little bitch fake reply. I assume you're talking about the "fatherless" spammer. I do though, you just don't think that I do because any post that's negative towards him are posts you assume cannot be from me. I do usually let it slide though, I only comment on it when he's the only one shitposting, which usually is not the case. Usually, his "spam" is in response to the Lightning avatarfag shitposting, and I think the Lightning avatarfag is a much bigger problem, because he is. His entire persona began as a shitpost, and he continues this on a daily basis. It has nothing to do with Yoshida, even though you think everything you hate is because of Yoshida and/or your bogeymen. The reality is, I just like Final Fantasy, and I wish that the shitposters of this thread would go and stay go, and this thread is much more peaceful and actually about Final Fantasy when the Lightning avatarfag is not shitposting and avatarfagging.
LightningGOD
And to think that the newest meltdown started because >>557914268 couldn't be answered, beginning the downwards spiral, and then >>557947817 definitely couldn't be answered either which completely broke the camels back.
Is anything in development aside from remakes
>>557966360ThisLightning fag did nothing wrong
>>557966360>>557966608Nope. Actually what happened is someone else posted the poll that the poll creator said he was going to accept the results of, and as a result of someone else posting the poll, the Lightning avatarfag began melting down at me for things that I did not do, all because he thinks every post he dislikes is one person. He genuinely has built up some idea of a single poster who is responsible for everything he has ever read that he dislikes, and sometimes he decides that person is me, and he melts down about things I didn't even do, like most of the shit in this post >>557964943, one of his trademark little bitch fake replies.It always happens this way.
It's time.
>>557966743See >>557966538You can keep melting
>>557966878I'm not melting. I'm telling the truth. The Lightning avatarfag made a bunch of schizo allegations that he attributes to "me", but I didn't even do most of them, and the other half are lies.
>557966743>557966508>walls of off-topic textWhat place should we nuke to get rid of him?
The steel ball run trailer dropped and you all are still stuck on saying "No UR having a meltdown"
>>557966967I'm merely replying to incorrect schizophrenic allegations levied against me. Why do you not point out the schizophrenic allegations themselves, shitposter?
103 filtered posts btw
>>557966963Whatever you say, meltie-chan
>>557966582Hello
>>557967145If the Lightning avatarfag was going to cause a 100+ post meltdown, replete with schizo accusations and things that didn't even happen, maybe he shouldn't have made his shitpost poll (the he lost)
>>557966963>made a bunch of schizo allegations that he attributes to "me", but I didn't even do most of them, and the other half are lies.This is really fucking ironic lolI love watching Yoshitter squirm
Looks like Yoshi-bot's not having a great day, huh?
>>557967317>This is really fucking ironicIt isn't though. It's just the truth. >Yoshitter Still wrong.
>>557967338Explorer GODS are on top, 13-0
>>557967027Not Final Fantasy, not even vidya, and I don't like JoJo's. Every clip I've seen seems incredibly gay and homosexual.
>>557967097>meNot the theme of this general, nigger. Get off. >>557966538Sakaguchi was both the best and the worst thing that could have happened to the series. On the one hand, his vision helped give Final Fantasy its identity; he had a clearer vision of what FF is and did a lot to ensure series' identity is there. On the other hand, the way the games were being developed couldn't be a good long-term strategy. Developers like Yasunori Mitsuda literally went to the hospital after developing Xenogears or smth like that, VI was developed with crazy crunchs and even overnight stays in the office, and ultimately, many, like Takahashi, simply burned out and quit.
>>557966967You made the schizo very upset.
>>557966582>>557967194Barry Barry Yoshi p Lighting or vanillefag please O cultists from all corners One of you any of you respond to my on-topic question
Reminder that THIS is the guy currently melting down.Yep, the very same guy.
>>557967686>>557967697>still can't actually reply to me or anything I saidI accept your concession. You can stop melting down now.
>>557967478BASED BASED BASED
>>557967759XVII in eternal preproduction.Source: it was revealed to me in a dream.
>>557967806>no uMeltie-chan...
>>557966582>>557967759NO AND YES! STOP ASKING OKAY! FUCK! SMALL INDIE COMPANY!PREASE UNDERSTANDU!
>>557959851Man. This post REALLY struck a nerve, huh?
giwtwm
>>557967927Damn, XVI really killed the series, huh?
>>557967806>literally a fucking shill who got angry at everyone who did play the game and didn't like it>calls them hate cultists for YEARS (despite not playing it himself)HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAfaggot lmao
>every post I don't like is all the same personIt's all so tiresome.
>>557967927>>557967953>>557968191SE is unsatisfied with their sales, but has no plans to shorten dev cycles or switch tracks off the GRANDE NARRATIVE SPECTACLE AAA RELEASE train. Are they just going to run into the ground at some point, surviving on reboots and remasters? Are we already there
>>557958992Just finished remake duology what should I play next?I haven't played xv and xvi yet and XII I've played long ago on emulatorOr maybe I should play some other game/SE title
>>557968560XV Royal/Windown EditionXVI sucks
>>557967867Mother-Rose...Eternal protectress of Fantasy...
>>55796856012 is GOAT but not everyone is keyed-in and has the taste level to appreciate it properly (especially in 2026) I would play xv with all the dlcs (vanilla is not a completed game) Xvi is lackluster as a game but a great story. Save it for when you're really bored.
>>557968560You should play XVI so that you can have an opinion on the most discussed game on /ffg/
>>557969026That's a terrible reason and suggestion
>>557969179It's a very good reason.
>>557969324Disrespectfully, I disagree
>>557969448I know that everything triggers you, anon. You didn't have to tell me.
>>557967686I genuinely believe that Square should do a new dream team project to regain public trust in the RPG space. Maybe with the fresh faces from Sandfall pitching in, or maybe partner with Atlus, or even Falcom, Monolith? Square and FromSoft would be the ultimate partnership for a big new fantasy game. Or maybe try to add the Undertale guy for the lols?Something that goes across the company border and puts some big Japanese roleplaying minds in one room and honors the spirit of this incredible genre in a big way. A new Chrono Trigger moment. Nice hand drawn cel shaded style, rewarding exploration, highly polished cinematic presentation with dramatic story and memorable characters...This industry is hungry for GOOD big games that deliver!
>>557960153Lightning's pu$$y...home...
>>557967867She's so fuckin hot...>>557969590Humina humina humina
>>557968491>surviving on *ports* and remastersThey probably had one of their better years since the pandemic era last year by doing just that. They are cheap and almost instant cash grabs
>>557969526Legal and artistic hell. Imagine Nomura and Miyazaki negotiating how much D A R K N E S S should be in the game. Are there any examples of such large joint projects? Ubisoft + Nintendo (Rabbits tactical game), Bungie + Activision (Destiny)? The fuck do I know.
>>557968560You should play the Fabula Nova Chrystallis Final Fantasy XIII trilogy, of course.FFXIII-2 is widely considered 40/40 for a reason
>>557969702I woke up today and decided that I'm going to think about MY home, about Lightning's pusse, ALL day long!!! Thanks, I really wanted to share this with others.
>>557970558>Are there any examples of such large joint projects?...Square Enix and Disney
>>557970558Nomura gets to design characters and aesthetics, maybe a producerMotomu Toriyama and Yuzo Kojima of Sekiro producingYoshinori Kitase and Miyazaki are the directors>>557971310Yeeeep.
As much as I'd love another game as good as Chrono Trigger, there just cannot be a "Dream Team" project in current year. Yoko Taro is the only person left at Square Enix who has any vision, and his projects keep getting canceled (possibly by the ethics department, but that's speculation). Instead they keep publishing games like Killer Inn and Foamstars.
>>557969520Oh fuck anon...I'm so triggered
Yoko Taro should direct a Final Fantasy game.
>>557971415>picIt was a crime against humanity making this kino a fucking corridor. Imagine actually exploring this shit.
>>557971415I don't know the jappa names I just play the games
>>557971842Final Fantasy XIII Remake could be the greatest FF of all time
>>557974049While I don't generally appreciate most posts about xiii itt, if they actually realized the potential of the game with a re-do it could be peak. The lore is insane and the characters are great, it's just bad level design and pacing (like really bad). Sadly a remake would change more than whats necessary, when all the game needs is just more development, more content, more exploration, more applications of the potential in its combat. Thanks for reading my blog
>>557974986>The lore is insane and the characters are great, it's just bad level design and pacing (like really bad).The lore is kinda cool, but they just do nothing with it, and the characters are the worst of any Final Fantasy game. The game being a literal corridor is the least of its problems.
>>557975353>but they just do nothing with itThey were going to do 7 fucking games with it, but decided not to. The world building and the flavor text that fleshes out the setting is good shit. But yeah it ended up being pointless. If there was more game, it could become relevant though. I just flat disagree about the characters. Lightning is a mixed bag conversation, but snow, the lesbos, the kid, and especially sazh are real people. Even the happy lesbo with the pain behind her annoying personality.
>They don’t know I’m the one who posts the ff poll>They don’t know I didn’t even vote in it I just do it for fun
>>557976018>They were going to do 7 fucking games with it, but decided not to.Jesus fucking christ, why? What? >If there was more game, it could become relevant though. 3 games wasn't enough? There didn't need to be more games. >I just flat disagree about the characters. Lightning is a mixed bag conversation, but snow, the lesbos, the kid, and especially sazh are real people.Sazh is a real person. The rest I don't like, not even a little bit.
>>557976018>But yeah it ended up being pointlessWhy?
>>557976018But the person who behaves the most realistically during the story is indeed Lightning. Not sure what story you played where you think Fang or Snow is more realistic than Lightning. You're taking the piss
>>557976101Sorry, I've already decided that every post I don't like is the same person.
>>557976340>Jesus fucking christ, why? What?Bro did you miss the entire last thread when people were freaking out about fabula nova lol The lore was supposed to support a massive multi-title era of final fantasy >3 games wasn't enough?Those sequels basically ruined the world instead of exploring it .in my opinion. Someone's rant in defense of Hope really turned me around on several of the characters, but I used to agree with you tbqh. >>557976354>>557976537I don't actually think any of them act in wild fantasy character swings, they are all relatively grounded considering the genre and their circumstances. I have trouble with Iightnings schtick, but I'm not some mega hater I don't mean a ton by it. Sorry I can't stir up a whole thread worth of drama with a stronger opinion.
Final Fantasy XIII is the most human Final Fantasy
>>557977446Fascinating take. Back it up please
>>557977446Everybody was lashing out at Hope for being annoying little piece of shit, but he still is one of the most realistic little pieces of shit I've seen in a video game, so I respect him for that.
>>557976537That’s a man.
>>557977504There are no non-human party members. Nobody on the team is a dream from a ghost realm, nobody is a clone, or an alien, or a mind broken schizo manchild. Nobody is an ancient magical race or half a magical race. Nobody is an outright RPG fantasy archetype that's only there because they "needed a Thief". They are all just people.Every character acts like a real human being would if trapped in such insane circumstance with complex, grounded and often conflicting emotions that serve to push their individual arcs. They live in a realistically stiff world and their struggle is a realistic one, resisting the technological soul prison. Unable to wildly go wherever they want to when they want to, they are sent down the gilded path of doom that was rigidly set for them before their birth.The familial bonds that these total strangers and orphans create together to stop the cataclysm and punch "god" is the essence of the series. The only other FF that did what FFXIII did is FFXV.>>557977714Yeah I think I'm done ever engaging with shallow XIII discourse. It's been 16 years, enough is enough already. Calling the young, angry, scared and sheltered boy an "annoying piece of shit" is just a self report. Those people are not emotionally intelligent and Final Fantasy XIII is not the Final Fantasy game for them
XIII is so peak on paper. The game doesn't feel like it. It's potential man the game, I fear.
>>557978994The Goddess who created humans is literally called the Foolish Goddess in the myth. I have a hunch that the characters are portrayed as slightly autistic and inadequate on purpose. And there's nothing wrong with that; that's precisely why I liked them.Pic related, kinda.
>>557978994Ok thanks for your reasoning. I agree with several points, and Im not here to debate about what I disagree on. Thanks for sharing, truly
>>557979592>I have a hunch that the characters are portrayed as slightly autistic and inadequate on purposeLol Lmao
SE should make (another) Star Wars game
>>557977446No. X-2's Last Mission is the most human Final Fantasy.
>>557978994That thing has a dick.
What about this Yuna, bwos?
>>557983002Hot if male
>>557983135Sadly I saw her pussy, not that impressive.
>>557982709Case in point that CS Lewis poster made, I guess.
>>557982709>>557983135>>557983639Pretty weird if you ask me.
>>557966121I see people have lost faith in 9's supposed remake and are now falling back onto Chrono Trigger's again for the 11-billionth time. The last time someone said anything related to CT was the DQ director or whatever being cheeky about it which meant they're TOTALLY remaking it, but turned out it's just statues of the characters.
>>557964551>One poll is definitely organicIs that what you call it when the polls creator self admits they were removing votes?
>>557987784I don't get how this is even an argument. Removing fraudulent votes is something that's expected everywhere.
>>557988305>Any vote for a game I don't like is fraudulent!
Did an IP range ban expired? I noticed that this and a few other generals I use suddenly had a shitton of low quality spam and shitposters. More than usual
>>557965578You struck a nerve, lol.
I want to kiss Porom.I'm a little disappointed the OP wasn't new artwork however.
>>557994083expire only uses the "ed" suffix at the end when used as an adjective. As a verb it is always "expire".
>>557995464He has expired...
>>557995560is an example of using the term as an adjective so it gets the "ed" suffix.
>>557995640Your insurance expired, as well....you sure this is just adjectives? I have a big doubt.
>>557995393Probably because the op image is AI slop
>>557995706honestly i have no fucking clue and thought it would be funnier to correct the grammer with a made up lesson than post about it being an ESL moment. grammer was my worst subject and I used english to catch up on my sleep.
>>557995937Ha, okay.
>>557995720I am aware of that.
>>557994083No idea. It is weird that we got insanely triggered about the poll for ~150 posts though.
>>557998276We? Who? The fatherless and his five sockpuppets?
Clair Obscur is the perfect explanation as to why I love turn-based games.When the stars align and all your buffs stack up at the same time and you get to unleash a really big attack that get buffed by everyone... YES.
https://automaton-media.com/en/game-development/final-fantasy-7-remake-trilogys-third-entry-will-not-compromise-on-graphics-whatsoever-despite-multiplatform-shift-director-naoki-hamaguchi-addresses-co/Hamaguchi: Speaking in purely technical terms, we categorize PS5 and PS5 Pro as “mid-range platforms” internally.GLORIOUS PC GAMING MASTER RACE is the lead platform for DEUNION and has the best graphicsPS5 HAS NO GAMES
i'm half way through 7r and i feel like dropping it entirely. 50 spinoffs and 2 mainline games only for the final chapter of the sephirot saga to be so ass...
>square enix announces nier automata has hit 10 million in salesRebirth sales announcement soon...?
https://x.com/NieR_JPN/status/2024798275728212166https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyn1b_5bw-MNIER AUTOMATA OUTSOLD DEBIRTH FLOP SO MANY TIMES OVER
Reminder that NieR:Automata was the real Final Fantasy XVI.
>>558027738See >>557958992>Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.Hating a good game is not a personality.
Somebody's really been doing this for almost 3 years huh.
>>557994083I can confirm that the mods have indeed unbanned a fuck ton of IPs and VPNs (pretty much all the IPs from my phone provider have been unbanned)The amount of extremely low quality posts and spam in several threads here in /vg/ increased drastically in the last 24 hoursYou have /ffg/ with the sudden spam we got in the previous thread/khg/ is currently being spammed with AI slop webms and tumblr shit to hit bump limit faster /uma/ is being spammed with images and avatarfagging can't remember which general was being spammed with diaper shit/gig/ and /zzz/ were already pretty bad before but now the amount of spam (specially the fag spamming blackedporn and feet) is unbearable
>>558029732Not to mention that the mods are ignoring reports. The only shit that is getting deleted is the porn spam
>>558029097Gonna cry?
sure is autistic and weird in hereany of u play ffxi? just started learning game the other day
>>558030642I wanted to, but I'm already busy with the Guild Wars and FFXIV.
>>558031346it's def like very old school compared to modern mmos, and missing a lot of qolthere's no quest trackers, and addons are minimal, have to read things and use a wikibut it has been really fun so far, i started as BLM but was having a bad time so now im leveling WARgood pserver for it called horizonxi
>>558027738>make a good game nine years ago>it sells a tonWhy hasn’t SE just tried making a good game again?
>>558035132They did. All these games had to pay back the debts that SE suffered from developping XIII, though.
>>557960153Cloud's bussy >>> everything
>>558036494tifa pls...
>>558027113Considering that development was outsourced, it's certainly Square Enix's most profitable single player game in the last 2 decades at the very least. Hats off.
>>558036682Pegging will continue until morale increase.
It is pretty embarassing that Square's main AAA money makers seem to be Nier and DQXI, games released in the last decade.
>>558022865...are we all going to agree to not share our opinions about this interview again, even though someone posted it (again)?
>>558026129>>558027113>>558036817There's never going to be a Rebirth sales announcement. They've already started referring to it as the Remake series/trilogy. If we're lucky, the most we'll ever hear about "Rebirth's" sales is that they might be able to say that the Remake series has sold 10 million right before Part 3 comes out, which will mean that Rebirth sold fewer than 3 million copies. Anyway, Automata is the best game to come out in the past decade, and you can probably stretch that back even longer if you wanted. It's up there with XV now, except it didn't go through a decade of development hell and cost a fortune like XV did.
>>557966121It would fit perfectly into current woke videogames with the whole bisexual cavewoman who's stronger than men in her tribe character.
I've loved rebirth though, just finished it and had fun all the way throughThe ending was interesting tooIt should be more popular
>>558040839You forgot Flea. Chrono Trigger is so good though that it transcends woke. Ayla doesn't feel out of place, and Flea was just a weird joke character. Back when you could have "woke" things that weren't actually woke.
>>558027113>>558026129Replicant sold 2 million copies......Rebirthsisters?
>>558041450>Back when you could have "woke" things that weren't actually woke.The only difference is that it was done by actual japanese left-leaning creators and not by (((them))), but it is still woke propaganda and it should be called that. >You forgot Flea.I didn't even know he existed, since I dropped the game right after the cavewoman's introduction. I guess I dislike the game even more now.
>>558046316What a weird fucking shitpost larp. I guess is this is what you're doing today.
>plays ff1 pixel remaster, with no prior experience of the originalThis is dirivitive and basic as hell I have no idea how this spawned a decades long multimedia franchise>plays ff2 pixel remaster, with no prior experience of the originalWait hold up they're actually cooking I see the vision
>>558029732>/khg/ >/uma/>/gig/>/zzz/Man talk about shit tastes. You spam some really shit generals.
>>558050092You say that while posting in easily the worst general of them all.
>>557994083No, but Rapeape expects you to turn off your Adblock because he's paying up to $1.6k to block proxies and VPNs, so posting's slowed down a bit. 4chan's dying and has been dying. That's likely why it's so dead in here among other things.
>>558050092I can guess that khg is kingdom hearts but I have no clue what those other ones could be and will not be finding out. Final fantasy 12 is the last good game se will ever make
>>558050281You're a pretentious hermit. Don't let it get to your head.
>>558050684>but I have no clue what those other ones could be Gacha generals. Our resident cultist loves'em since he can't afford a PS5 for the 10/10 XVI which most people apparently enjoyed so he plays mobile slop on his potato PC and government subsidized phone.
>>558050908What?
>>558051390What a bizarre head canon that you have created for your multiple bogeymen (who are, naturally, all one person)
>>558051390>Gacha generalsLol >10/10 XVILmao >which most people apparently enjoyedI can't speak on what other people thought of it. I didn't love it.
mmm ff16 bad
>>558052602Not bad, just not great. It's "one of the games of all time" as the children have been saying.
Remake won bigly
>>558053496Based FF enjoyers win again.
>>558053496>Sales Grow the fuck up Remake is good though
>>558029732Reminder that the mods and jannies are the ones engaging in this behavior. Only reason the IPs get unbanned is because is affected one of them finally.
Chicano representation
>>558054258I liked it. Rebirth was even better.
>>558029097Final Fantasy is the only AAA series that I keep buying.
>>558066327Same. That's probably why I'm so defensive about it.
>>558066327Same but I think I'm done, I should have pirated xvi it was just okay.
>>558029732This explains a lot
>>558065664Not many people agreed.
>>558051390I'm 10/10 FFXVI-kun and I have both a PS5 and a great PC.Your world is but a fantasy.
>>558079458I wonder where he even gets the ideas for the elaborate schizo head canon he makes for his one-person bogeyman that he thinks is responsible for every post he has ever disliked. At this point, I kinda feel like he just lists all the stuff he hates (XVI, gacha, third worlders) and assigns it a tulpa.
>>558079458post specs
>>558080784I'm White, 6 foot, low bf%, 6" cock with good girthHow about you?
>>558081649I have a pc, played XVI and can say its shit. So doing pretty good.
Recommend me a final fantasy with curved swords. I have a yearning for curved swords for some reason.Curved swords.
>>558083415FFXII not only has curved blades, but also has the benefit of being the last ambitious, quality release in the franchise.
>>558085783XII team is the Tactics, XI, XIV and XVI team.Support them if you want more Ivalice kino.
>>558085961I only play Vagrant Story.
>>558086772Remaster soon. Thank Yoshi-P's CS3 for that as well.
Say what you want about Clive, but at least he canonically had sex.
Final Fantasy anime when
>>558083415
>>558094950There's been three.
I noticed that this thread and almost all generals in /vg/ are quiet and comfy again I guess this anon >>558029732 was right and the mods have IP range banned a lot of areas as well as VPNs
>>558098221Perfect for me to start playthrough posting.
>>558098221That explains why the fatherless isn't seen anymore. Good riddance.>>558098832What game you wanna go through? Vagrant Story?
>>558098959Gotta continue with 4 TAY. But after I finish resting.
>>558099423>spitsTAY.BLAH! Humbug!
>>558095023Based
>>558098832>Perfect for me to start spammingNope.
>>558085783>XII>the last ambitious, quality release in the franchise.The only ambitions thing about XII was the delays that derailed whole SE's development schedule to hell for the next 10+ years. Partly happened because Matsuno couldn't process his feefees.
>>558098832Serve your ban
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsKEMiq95R8I killed your Pikachu~Though you did not want me to~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsKEMiq95R8I feel like this video would be an effective response to feminists.Men are great. Men can relate to every clip of men in this video. Men can relate to these lyrics. They should be assertive, and women should respect them.
>>558120064Men are super athletic.Men are cool.Men are manly.Why would you ever want to go to war with men when you could be with them instead?
>shitposters banned>the posters who wanted to discuss final fantasy but couldnt because of shitposters still dont talk about final fantasy
>>558122740Stop noticing, anon.
>>558122740https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fp81GzKarQMen are the path to dreams!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgEzv-icEBs
>>558114214It's okay that your taste is shit
>>558122969Why do you answer your own posts?
Pixiv DESPERATELY need a "no AI slop" thing. I just died to the Four Fiends and I can't even find relevant art of Rydia getting her anus dilated.
>>558124267>no u ad hominem slop responseLOL
I need advice about FFVIII.I get that I'm relatively free to use magic so far because the returns are still minimal, but I still have problems on how to recover spent magic: if, for example, I used all my Cure, and I'm in a region where, for some reason, there are no enemies using it, what am I meant to do?
Don't answer all at once, really...
>>557958992Is final fantasy XV worth buying? I see it costs 11 bucks but I heard it's incomplete
>>558132161Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. As an experience, maybe. It can't be worse than XIII, but at the same time, it's unlikely it'll be a life-changing experience, it's "just" the tale of a virgin loser and how he fails everything in life and loses everything he has.
XVI is the Highguard of Final Fantasy.>did very well on day 1>started to completely crater and fail on day 2
>someone says something negative about XIII>immediate "what about xvi?????" postI'm noticing...
VIIR is the TAY of Final Fantasy VII.
>>558132161>Is final fantasy XV worth buying?Yes. People like to pretend that ad populum is some sort of mistake of argumentation, well, not every time it is. Sometimes wisdom of the masses exists.>2025>Japanese magazine Denfami polled 4,700 gamers to see which RPG made them cry the most.>Final Fantasy XV is #10, after X and IX.
>>558132161$11 for just the base game is not worth it.$11 for royal edition is worth it.
>>558137380it's for windows edition, it's the same as royal, no?
>>558137952Yes. But I think you no longer have the online features, like photos sharing, or alternate outfits?
>>558137952that's the same as royal yes
>>558132958Actually FFXVI became the fastest selling PS5 exclusive and went on to sell another 1M on PC as well.You might be thinking of Rebirth, which was outsold by XVI 2x over with half the budget.
>>558140442>which was outsold by XVI 2x over And yet 2.33x more people from Steam are playing Rebirth. Seems like people bought XVI, realized that it's trash, and decided to stick with a real winner, the one with a looog sales tail.
Steam CCU data rn:>KINGDOM HEARTS -HD 1.5+2.5 ReMIX- (1,589 LMAO)>FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE INTERGRADE (2,110)>FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH: (3,244)>FINAL FANTASY XVI (1,383)Merde...
>>558140442This is true. XVI sold more copies than Rebirth while having half the budget. If Nier Replicant just got a sales announcement of 2 million, and lots of other titles have also had sales announcements of 2 million, you have to wonder if Rebirth has even sold 2 million copies. Personally, I think it has barely sold at least 2 million, but because its budget is so high it has not had a sales announcement, because sales announcements are indicative of a game being net positive and profitable, rather than an absolute sales number. Because Rebirth's budget was over twice as high as XVI's budget while also selling fewer copies than XVI, it is not yet profitable and might never become profitable without significant fudging of numbers by selling complete edition bundles and counting it as 1 "sale" for each game in the series.
>>558140442>>558141337Sad but true. Not every game can be as successful and beloved as the 10/10 FFXVI, it seems.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ff7-1997-has-sold-over-15-5-million-units-worldwide.1442593/
>>55814097443% of Steam users completed XVI>https://steamhunters.com/apps/2515020/achievements44% of Steam users completed Rebirth>https://steamhunters.com/apps/2909400/achievementsI think Rebirth has a "longer tail" because it's a longer game anon.
>>558145778And for anyone curious 48% of Steam users completed Remake>https://steamhunters.com/apps/1462040/achievementsFor 100%13% for XVI13% for Rebirth13% for Remake
>>558145778The fact that a longer game like Rebirth has a better overall completion rate compared to XVI suggests that people continue playing it and don't quit, and this is just great, considering that a major problem with modern gaming, often discussed by designers, is that gamers don't complete games.
>people criticize VIIR for sucking>mysteriously, "everyone" start to diss on XVIWeird coincidence....
>>558146718Personally, I think it's more indicative of the diehard Final Fantasy VII fanbase who would play anything with the Final Fantasy VII name on it. Many people purchased and played Remake. Only a fraction of those users returned for Rebirth, so the people who purchased Rebirth are more likely to have completed the game, because they're already in for the long haul, even after playing Remake and realizing it's not a 1:1 Remake.
>>558147587XVI is the most discussed Final Fantasy game on /ffg/. It's extremely popular. Any post about XIII or VIIR necessarily turns into a post about XVI.
>>558148217I can show you the world~
>>558146718>has a better overall completion rate compared to XVIA 1% difference is nothing anon...
We should allow XIV talking, at least in terms of lore and shit. For that's literally impossible in /xivtroong/
>>558148662:V
>>558126132Retard
>>558148662Do you have a moment to talk about FFXIV : the TTRPG?
>>5581484251%, considering that Rebirth is a much longer game, is everything, anon. Like I said, one of the big problems of gaming is that gamers don't complete games, and with Rebirth/XVI comparison we see, that more people completed a game, that is much, much longer to complete. This is a big deal.>>558148027MTM's research in 2025 found that 85% of those who played any remaster or remake in the last year did so despite not playing the original version of the game. Most of the modern remake players never played the original games, anon. These steam numbers, most of these people are young guys, who never played VII.
>>558149254>These steam numbers, most of these people are young guys, who never played VII.I'm pressing X, anon. There's no way anyone who hasn't played the original gives a fuck about Rebirth.
>>558149254>1%, considering that Rebirth is a much longer game, is everything, anon.No it isn't and when the same percentage across all games are going to 100% to just tells you it's the same groups in each game anon.The only difference between the two is one was longer than the other so it's player count had a longer plateau. That's it.
>>558153262>difference between the two is one was longer than the otherYes, and for any longer game, solving the player retention problem is a more difficult task. Rebirth is a longer game than XVI. Longer games have a harder time keeping players engaged and keep playing, and the fact that Rebirth has the same completion rate as XVI suggests it's done a better job of it than XVI. People play the game and don't quit. The implications of this fact for sales and positive word of mouth are numerous. Think, anon, think.That's why that 1% is a big number, anon.
>>558154752>solving the player retention problem is a more difficult task.apparently not when all three have identical completion rates for 100%Here's the reality. Just under half of the people who buy FF's complete the game. Doesn't matter which one. The people buying FF are not trying something new they are long term fans.
>"1% is a huge number, actually">conveniently neglects to mention that VIIRgins gonna VIIRgin no matter what>made up some false information about how the majority of people playing Rebirth have never played the originalSmells familiar.
>>558158787>apparently not when all three have identical completion rates for 100%I'll explain for the local retards one more time:1) We have a game that takes ~165 hours to 100% completion and has 13% completion rate.2) We have a game that takes ~80 hours to 100% completion and has 13% completion rate.Which game handled the retention problem better? Which game drew the player deeper into its world, compelling them to play through to the end AND NOT GIVE UP? Correct.What sales implications can be drawn from the fact that one game retains attention longer than another? There are many, and most of them are positive. But one of them, and it's very important, is long tail sales via organic marketing. Higher retention - long tail effects. Simple shit. Example: extended playtime increases a game's visibility on platforms like Steam, which also impacts long tail, yes. However! To achieve such cool effects, it is not enough for a game to be simply longer, it needs to be longer AND engaging, retaining enough. Because the fact that the game is long does not guarantee that everyone will reach the end.>Just under half of the people who buy FF's complete the game. Doesn't matter which one. The people buying FF are not trying something new they are long term fans.I some some people find it easier to simply live in fantasy and make logical leaps than to accept the simple fact that 85-90% of players of modern remakes are newcomers who have not played the originals.
We are once again purposely neglecting to mention that some people will play Final Fantasy VII no matter what it is. It is a 25 year old IP that has diehard fans, some in this very thread, some even going to great lengths to defend it, even right this second!
>made up some false information Nope. Actual facts, pure empirical data. Substantive 1500+ sample. You better google it, shitter, if you can google at all.
>Final Fantasy VII has diehard fans that were always going to play Rebirth it no matter what it was>this diehard fanbase can only manage a completion rate that is 1% higher than the most controversial Final Fantasy game of all time>we're still citing some made up statistic that is not about Remake and Rebirth, alleging that most of its playerbase are people that have never played the original Final Fantasy VII beforeWhy does he decide to adopt a new extremely disingenuous shitpost every single day?
>>558161379 here, meant to answer >>558149448, but I'm a scaredy pussy and I don't know how to use 4chan.Also I have no source for my numbers so plz do my research for me pl0x...
>>558161326>some people will play Final Fantasy VII no matter what it is.Yes, those 10-15% of the population matter. Unfortunately, the 85-90% of people who never played the original version matter far more.
>>558161638It's just the usual shitposter doing his trademark fake reply. He always gives himself away, even when he's "not here right now"
>>558161638>ad hominemLol, concession accepted.
>>558161674You're now alleging that 90% of the 2 million people who bought Rebirth have never played the original before. You need to constantly shitpost so badly that you're going full retard now.
>>558161718And then you'll see a couple of posts answering him, always with rehashed stuff like "irrefutable" or "big if true".Aka the same answers that people post whenever XIII get outed as the worst FF game ever that he parrots because his fatherless ESL brain cannot be original.
>>558161115and I'll explain it for you one more time.when the completion and 100% percentages are near identical across three games it means it's the same people playing across three titles.The only difference is the length of the game. You claim that is some identifier of quality. It is not. It just means the people that put 100 hours into XVI would have put 200 if that was what it took to complete it or 100% it.
>>558161826That's not what ad hominem is. Do you just spout random Latin words to try to sound smart? Because you're failing miserably.
>>558162047ESLs are notorious for using words and idioms they don't understand, under the assumption that if they bullshit it hard enough, it'll deceive people smarter than them.
>>558161873
>>558162352see >>558161826
>>558161379see >>553494806
>>558161873Yup, you struck a nerve, he's playing the same old tired "I-I'm not here I swear!!!"
>>558162046>You claim that is some identifier of quality. It is not.It is. It solves the retention problem. The difference is ability of the game to keep attention of the player population. That is what produces the long tale effect, not just the lenght itself.>>558162047>That's not what ad hominem is. That's exactly what it is. >Do you just spout random Latin words to try to sound smart? >Because you're failing miserably.Wow, another ones.>>558161862>You're now alleging that 90% of the 2 million people who bought Rebirth have never played the original before.The actual number is between 85-90%. Google, retard, google!
>>558162707What a miserable fatherless loser. No wonder everyone laughs at him.>>558162765>another onesYup, ESL confirmed. What a sad fatherless loser.
Why is the resident shitposter ban evading?
>>558162765>It is. It solves the retention problem.Identical percentages for 100% completion proves there is no retention problem among the players being discussed.This seems to be the point you are too retarded to understand.Kill yourself you fucking faggot.
>>558162835see >>558161826
>>558162857Because like all fatherless, it's attention-starved and it needs to be the center of attention. Even if said attention is everyone roasting his ESL-tier language.
>>558162835Even when he's "not here", even when he's "not avatarfagging", he's still here shitposting and avatarfagging. It's kinda funny, but also deeply pathetic.
>>558163075I mean, we all know he's fatherless. Can't get any more pathetic than this, to be honest, imagine being so unsufferable that your own father abandons you.
>>557963317The best
>>558162974>Identical percentages for 100% completion proves there is no retention problem among the players being discussedIdentical percentages for 100% completion proves that it exists. Considering that one game takes 80 hours to complete, and the other 160, if these games had the same retention rate, XVI would have a higher rate of 100% than 13%.>Kill yourself, you fucking faggot. Another concession accepted.
We're still purposely neglecting to mention that Final Fantasy VII is a 25 year old IP with an insanely (literally) dedicated fanbase of people who will always play Final Fantasy VII no matter what, so the fact that it only has a 1% higher completion rate than the most controversial Final Fantasy game of all time is pretty damning for Rebirth. And no, there is no fake statistic that 90% of Rebirth's buyers have never played the original. If anything, 90% of Rebirth buyers are people who are obsessed with Final Fantasy VII, no matter what it is. I can't believe we're making up things now such as "90% of Rebirth players have never played the original". To make up something so retarded and then to continually double down on it is the sign of a true shitposter (who isn't here right now, of course, even though he's avatarfagging and shitposting like he always does)
We have a game that takes approximately 165 hours to complete, with a 100% completion rate being 13% of the population.We have a game that takes approximately 80 hours to complete, with a 100% completion rate being of 13% of the population.Help local saaars find out which game retains players better? And, therefore, which of these games is more likely to trigger a long-tail effect through organic marketing?>b-but they are the same peopleLet's consider, for the sake of a hypothetical, that they are literally Venn diagram circle. Of all these players, these turbo FF fans, only 13% complete 165h game, and only 13% complete 80h game. Hmmhmhmhmhhmm...
>>558163672>most controversial Final Fantasy game of all timeNo one was talking about XV right now.
>uh-oh fake statsI see I've stirred up a hornet's nest. The local lunatics will deny empirical reality just so they can keep shitposting.
Was curious about Main Story completion percentages across all FF's in the "achievement" era of games. Specifically new FFs that were not re-releases of older games. Just looking at PS dataFFXIII - 27% completion - 2% 100%FFXIII-2- 38% completion- 8% 100%FFLR- 29% completion- 6% 100%FFXV- 28% completion- 6% 100%FFXVI- 49% completion- 4% 100%Remake- 34% completion- 3% 100%Rebirth- 45% completion- 2% 100%
>85% (of 1500 people) have played ***a*** Remake or Remaster game when they didn't play the originalGod, what a fucking retard. At least he disproved his own fake stat that he keeps repeating as part of his shitpost for today though. Considering just how many games in the past few years have been Remakes and/or Remasters, of course 85% of people surveyed have played ***a*** Remake or Remaster without playing the original. Even I have played a Remake/Remaster without having played the original before. There are so many fucking Remakes and Remasters now it's inevitable.
>>558163996>which game retains players better?They both have equal player retention if the games share identical completion and 100% figures.Kill yourself you retarded faggot.
I'm just going to go more into this, since the chronic avatarfagging shitposter felt like he was intelligent for spamming a fake statistic that he made up>85% of the people surveyed have played ***a*** remake or remaster without playing the original>(he says it was 1500 people surveyed)Since he clearly doesn't understand what this means, I'll break it down a bit further. We'll use Final Fantasy as an example: >Pixel Remasters (I-VI)>Final Fantasy VII Remake>Final Fantasy VII Rebirth>Final Fantasy VIII HD Remaster>Final Fantasy IX HD Remaster>Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remaster>Final Fantasy XII Zodiac Age>Final Fantasy XV Royal>Final Fantasy Tactics Ivalice ChroniclesNow, lets say that I have played all of these games as their remaster/remake versions. Additionally, let's also say that I've played all of the original versions of these games... except Final Fantasy Tactics. This would mean that, even though I have played the original and the Remake versions of all the Final Fantasy games (including Rebirth), I only played Ivalice Chronicles, not the original Tactics. Regardless, this would include me as part of the 85% of people surveyed who have played a Remake or a Remaster without first playing the original game, even though I have played all of the other original games. ...now extrapolate this example out to the entire modern gaming landscape, where it seems like every other game that gets released is a Remake, Remaster, or a Rerelease, and it's very easy to see how 85% of people surveyed have played ***a*** Remake or Remaster without first playing the original. It doesn't mean that 85% of all players of Remakes and Remasters are new, it just means that a very large portion of modern releases are Remaster and Remakes. >Another example, for further demonstration: 85% of chads have fucked a fat chick at some point, that doesn't mean that 85% of the people that the fat chick has had sex with are chads. You fucking retard.
>>558164925One is longer to complete, yet the same number of people complete both games. You can do it sar.>Kill yourself you retarded faggot.Concession. Accepted.
>>558162765>>You're now alleging that 90% of the 2 million people who bought Rebirth have never played the original before.>The actual number is between 85-90%. Google, retard, google!I really can't get over how stupid you are while smugly shitposting like this. It's actually unreal how unintelligent you are. Telling everyone that you are clinically retarded, all for the sake of some shitpost that you're not even winning.
I see XVI's superiority over the failure XIII caused a stir again.
>>558166965Anon, the thing is, that a game with a higher player retention rate has a better chance of achieving long-tail sales effects. Which makes Rebirth a better selling game than XVI for the long term. If you're so for justice, go report the spam about "XVI sold twice as much as VIIR." I hope you'll do it. You're for the truth I see, right, right?
>>558166248Length has nothing to do with retention.Kill yourself you retarded faggot.
>>558167570You struck a nerve.
>>558167439You're literally too stupid to engage with, so I'm not reading any more of your posts. You are so fucking stupid it's unreal. You really tried to say, multiple times, that 90% of the people playing Rebirth are people who have never played the original, when if anything the reality is the exact opposite. You dumbass fucking avatarfagging shitposter.
>>558167662Hi, fatherless!You misswrote "oh no you deconstructed my poorly-thought namecalling with well-thought real arguments, so I'm crying".
>"XVI sold twice as much as VIIR"Irrefutable, I'm afraid. At the absolute, most optimistic best, Rebirth sold the same amount of copies as XVI did, while Rebirth had over double the budget that XVI had. No matter how you look at it, XVI was 2-4x more successful than Rebirth.
>>558164758Interesting completion rates. I'm sure they mean nothing though. The most important thing is that Rebirth has a 1% higher completion rate on Steam than XVI. That's the most important statistic right now and no other statistic are important, except the indisputable fact that 90% of Rebirth players are brand new to Final Fantasy VII, a fact that is just common sense and is accepted by everyone everywhere.
>>558167662>Local unbiased truth defenders never do anything about obvious lies and spam, like "Rebirth was outsold by XVI 2x over".>But today unbiased truth defenders decided to defend justice.>Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourselfOne of the reasons why you're suffocating in your own shit here, subhumans. By the way, I'm still right. The "long tail" is observed in games that last a long time and have good retention, making players want to keep progressing. A game that takes 165 hours to complete and is completed by 13% of players has better retention rate than a game that takes 80 hours to complete and is completed by 13% of the population. If retention rates were the same, a single 80-hour game would have more players achieving 100% completion.>>558167570It does. Longer games have a harder time keeping the player's attention. It's harder for them to get the player to the end of the game.>Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourselfConcession. Accepted.
>>558168003Where are our great defenders of truth? Ah, they're not here, unfortunately, too busy spamming kys. You jeets deserve this place.
>>558168240>The most important thing is that Rebirth has a 1% higher completion rate on Steam than XVI. Yeah, since the game is longer. Cry more. The fact is, Rebirth produces long tail, XVI does not. Now resort to your shitposting rituals.
>>558168527I'm not reading your posts anymore. You are literally too stupid to engage with. You repeated your own made up, misunderstood statistic for (hours?), telling everyone else they're retarded. And then when you finally provided your "source" it actually proved that (You) are the retard, as always. No wonder all you do is shitpost, you are quite literally too stupid to be able to do anything else. >>Local unbiased truth defenders never do anything about obvious lies and spam, like "Rebirth was outsold by XVI 2x over".This is just true though. This is true facts. XVI sold more than Rebirth, possible as much as 2x, while having half of the budget. You might dislike it, but it's a fact. Even Nier Replicant got a 2m sales announcement. It's possible Rebirth has sold fewer than 2 million, and it's absolute that it has sold fewer copies than XVI while having twice the budget. These are just facts. Just like the fact that you are a clinically retarded moron who can't understand statistics so he resorts to avatarfagging and shitposting because he's not smart enough to engage in actual conversations otherwise.
>>558169137>you you youConcession accepted, animal.>This is just true though. This is true facts. XVI sold more than Rebirth, possible as much as 2x, while having half of the budget. You might dislike it, but it's a fact.>it's absolute that it has sold fewer copies than XVI while having twice the budget.Source your shitposting ass, shitter. Now resort to your spam.
>>558169458Little man, you cannot be accepting any concessions after proving yourself to be a complete fucking retard. See: >>558166203 and >>558161674You are probably the dumbest poster here, and you are also the biggest shitposter, and you are also the only (current) avatarfag. You have humiliated yourself and you are now in negative izzat debt. There's no way to come back from your proving how stupid you truly are.
What dο people mean when they say "Aerith and Tifa switched personalities for the Remake series"?Do they remember Tifa as the spunky one?
Any time a Square game that isn't Rebirth gets a new sales announcement, its defense force seems to grow ever slightly more schizophrenic.
>>558169685Do people even say this? I haven't heard it. Anyway, what I think might have happened, if anyone even says that, is that they remember liking Tifa (because boobs), so when Aerith shows up and she's "spunky" while Tifa is more boring, they feel like something else changed. It is true that some characters are different from the original, and admittedly it's been probably 5 or 6 years since I last played the original so I'm not going to be an expert on this, but I mostly feel like Aerith and Tifa were the sameish. More the same as the original than Cloud is, anyway.
>>558169663Animal, see >>558163996 and >>558140974.This conversation started with the point that Rebirth has better long-term sales. You haven't refuted that, retarded retard.I also want to point out that the fucking "XVI outsold" spam (41 results found) is one of the reasons this place is in such a state. People like you just make up shit to shitpost.
[-]>>558170107Seems to be that way, yeah. We've had yet another outburst. That's twice in one thread. If we get a third, that might be a new record.
>possible>factsLiterally chatbot.
>>558170107I don't care about VII. it's just that shitposters who make this place worse with their spamming ass-pulls should just be put back in their place. They are the reason most of the better posters left, so we must get rid of them.
>>558170126Aerith was definitely spunkier on purpose. Remember she's the first character of the game who actually throws Cloud's larping off in Midgar. That's not to say Tifa is a plain jane or anything, but her scenes were often more reserved.
>>558170727>I don't care about VII.>Narrator: he cared an awful lot about VII
>>558170107>>558170946does it bother you that rebirth is a good game that no matter how much shitposting you do here, it will not change its or FFVII in general's perception in the overall zietgist?
Actually, as a matter of fact, I'm extremely calm right now.
>>558171189>"I don't care about VII."My mans said "zeitgeist" and was so angry that he also misspelled it.
>>558170946Seems you were right.
>>558171426>My mansspeaking of grammatical error
>>558171451Yup. He has no argument so he's even nitpicking things that were done purposely now. The only question is whether this is the beginning of the spiral or if this is the end of the previous spiral. Boy howdy, if this is just the beginning.
>>558171189All of this that happened doesn't really matter, though. A few hours or days will pass, and the monkey will start spamming his degenerate "XVI outsold VIIR" slop again, screeching every time someone even makes a neutral comment about XVI. The monkey doesn't realize that he's ruining any possible discussion of XVI and of VIIR. I personally want to discuss XVI and VIIR, but I'll do it when this retard shoots himself or runs off to shitpost and make up facts elsewhere on the internet.It's just all very tiresome.
This all could have been avoided if FF XVI hadn't been such a bad game.
This all could have been avoided if Rebirth hadn't sold fewer copies than XVI despite having twice the budget and also the backing of the Final Fantasy VII IP. Alas...
This all could have been avoided if Ubibirth didn't flop so bigly....
Hopefully Atlus doesn't announce a new Metaphor milestone soon, I think some people here are close to a breaking point.
>>558171764Looks like this post hit a nerve.
I don't care about VIINow watch as I crash out about VII as fake statistics that I made up are proven false by myself
>>558171764two no u's for the price of one.
>>558171764XVI is a good game, ok game, solid game. Shitter who makes up spam like >>558140442 and spams "kys" every post like a third-worlder is the problem tho. The good news is that today he is defeated and still has nothing to say about the brilliant argument that Rebirth is a game with higher in-game attention retention, which leads to a larger sales tail effects, thus better long-term sales.
>>558172048>statistics that I made upBut enough about "XVI outsold VIIR" spam, saar!
Note to self: never post anything cute to this thread ever again. The avatarfag just turns it into a shitpost, like he does with everything else.
>>558172048You struck a nerve. Be careful.
>>558171707>A few hours or days will pass, and the monkey will start spamming his degenerate "XVI outsold VIIR" slop againMore like a few minutes lol.
>>558140442These facts seem to have upset some people here
>>558172461>The avatarfagI too don't like XVI chatbot huh, this one >>558079458.
>>558172371>But enough about "XVI outsold VIIR" spam, saar!Tiny little crying little man, now you're twisting it. The correct and true fact is "XVI outsold Rebirth">>558172462Seems so. He's moving goalposts now because he realized that XVI actually did sell more than Rebirth while also having less than half of its budget.
>>558172706>Tiny little crying littleWe don't talk about your spam, animal.>He's moving goalpostsWoman, here's the actual point >>558140974. Who moves what? That is the start of our conversation. Too afraid to refute?
>>558172689No, I'm talking about you, obviously >>558171707And you know that I'm talking about you. You're the only avatarfag.
I just find it funny that he couldn't even badly pretend to be another person for more than one hour, personally. Truly a poster for the ages.
>check thread>"I don't care about VII">meanwhile he's been melting down about VII while making up fake statistics that he disproved himself for 6 the past hours
>>558173005Any refutations of the point, woman? No? Okay. I'm very glad that everyone agrees that a game that takes 165 hours to complete and is 100% completed by 13% of players has a better retention rate than a game that takes 80 hours to complete and is 100% completed by 13% of the population. And, as we know, long-running games with higher retention rates extend their sales tails thanks to organic marketing. That was, btw, the original point in the conversation. Now I hope the spam from local bots will stop.
>>558173005You struck a nerve. He couldn't even refute you and instead ranted on and on in hopes to bore you to death.
>>558173192Who? "XVI outsold Rebirt" shitter? Yeah. We will get rid of that piece of shit, I swear. What he is doing with this place must be stopped.
>>558173192It started off with him avatarfagging using a cat instead of Lightning, then as soon as he started doing his fake reply shtick every time a post truly triggers him as well the jig was up and he stopped pretending. He still wont post Lightning though, not during certain VIIR discussions. This at the very least shows that on some level he still desires to keep his two different personas separate. I wouldn't even be surprised if he comes in here later and says pic related. That's usually the next play in the playbook. Shit up the thread, make a fool of himself, and then show up later, pretending to be new to the situation while progressively replying to his old posts to agree with himself.
>>558173748>he's Lightning avatarfagNope. Now, spammer, answer the question. Any objections that Rebirth seemingly having a longer sales tale?
>>558173974>Nope.lol>Rebirth seemingly having a longer sales tale?The tale of Rebirth's sales is certainly longer than most. Instead of Square Enix saying anything about them despite constantly releasing new sales updates for games with as low as 1m sales, we have people coping that the radio silence is actually a good thing, and this has been going on for 2 years now. That's a pretty long sales tale, much longer than normal.
>Retard made up a number and have been spamming it for years? (41 results found)>Retard didn't disprove my main point.>Now he sees me as his imaginary girlfriend.
>>558174162>lolWhat? >Instead of Square Enix saying anything about them despite constantly releasing new sales updates for games with as low as 1m salesYeah, for a game with a budget of a sushi set like Octopath 1 mil is good news.
I don't know how it's going to happen, but I do think we'll get a third meltdown before 750 posts. That is, assuming this current meltdown ever ends. This has been quite the eventful thread.
Just dropped in after a long hiatus from hereAny sales announcement for Redditbirth yet?
>>558174669who's melting down again
>>558174874Radio silence, just like with 18-month plan.
>>558174874>Any sales announcement for Redditbirth yet?No, but Nier Replicant sold 2 million copies and Automata has sold 10 million. That's more than the Remake Trilogy so far. That's up there with XV numbers.
Real question, why won't they post Rebirth sales? Critical reviews are high, the Steam numbers are higher than other recent Square games, with the exception of DQVII Reimagined, but that one came out a couple of weeks ago. From the outside everything looks pretty cute. What are they waiting for? Are they expecting a number to surpass Remake's number or what?
