The final thread edition >Demo Days Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67 Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66 >AGDG Resources https://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w >Progress Posting Guide https://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn >Helpful Links New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/ /agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/ >How to WebM https://obsproject.com https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter >Previous Thread >>557833726
Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9A_jZxKvu8
w-was I a good general?
>>557965645Can I see?
Is /agdg/ on the chopping block o algo?
all the actual game development discussion is on /g/ anyway
>>557967480I'm here only to commiserate anyway. I don't really need to discuss anything with anybody. my vision is clear and my skills are adequate.
>>557967480bunch of pedotroons arguing whether c++ or q++ is better for not finishing a game aint actual gaemdev discussion thoughteverbeit
>>557966103>The final thread editionGood riddance.
This is not a progress anchor. This is a memory anchor. Share your favorite moment from /agdg/ before we shut this chapter of our lives forever.
>>557967480/g/ is just code but games are more than code
>>557967830My favorite AGDG moments are the ones that are yet to comehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpK_k6SXbQY
>>557967830when boku released his game that was pretty cool, it remember it like it was yesterday
Now that the dust has settled, what the FUCK went wrong?
>>557967830honestly? the fygoon era, it was a new golden age for /agdg/ and the last time thread felt alive instead of the same stale posts, also people were posting progress when called out or when arguing with fygoon
>>557968281please drop dead, thanks
>>557968586kys pedophile
>>557967830the tomo era, even though the simping was retarded at least tomo did gamedev and helped anons get started with free models
>>557968254Low-skill and low-vision retards come here with the delusion that "it's just video games. how hard can it be?", but in reality, game development is one of the absolute hardest things you can be doing with your life. Eventually, they put in so much time and effort and accumulate so much sunk cost that they simply cannot admit to themselves and others that they will never be good enough to make a good game, and instead, they will spend the rest of their short, miserable lives haunting this thread, blaming everyone but themselves for their own shortcomings.
>>557969098nubby's number factory exists and is popular therefore you don't need to be good or make a good game
>>557968254Permabegs/thread
>>557969178>Review score: 98%>Average playtime: 12.8h>Average daily concurrent players: 284>Copies sold in the last 7 days: 1.4kGooder than any game you will ever make. You're just too low-vision to even know what good is.
>>557968254Too many schizos of stagnation haunting the threadIt was cute at first, like having a petBut now it's just pathetic and sad
>>557969297by the same reasoning 50 shades of grey and morning glory milking farm are good novels.
>>557969098What is low vision
>>557969405That's correct. They are greater than anything you will ever produce as the low-vision loser you are.
>>557969623it's pornslop
>>557969903pornslop that started as twilight fan fiction.
>>557969380its just one mentally ill dude >>557968281>>557968785
>>557969098It’s literally just programming
>>557968806I miss tomo. I shouldn't have taken that 2 to 3 years off agdg and kept intouch with tomo. Those threads were the days.
>>557970106pedophile eric schizo/zukjeet seething
If you're going to make an extensive game, you need to put a lot of time into creating a template that allows you to mass-produce assets and actions
progressmt game is about killing pedophiles btw
>>557970483I miss being 24, having a $120k/year job, living in a downtown penthouse and having a girlfriend. Those were the days. Life looked so promising and full of opportunities and yet I ended up in an amateur game dev thread on 4chan.
>>557970912What happened?
>>557970418idk i think there's some art and music too
>>557970993Nothing. Can't keep getting lucky. I'm where I'm expected to be in life.
>>557971129Those take up 10 percent of the work man
Honestly, this couldn't have taken more than like two months if we count all the days where I actually worked.Problem is, I have a huge procrastination issue and would just do fucking nothing for multiple weeks, so now it's been almost a year since I started. I hate my life
I thought there would be a lot more shitposting here about Unity doing the whole "just prompt full games into existence" stuff. Or is that already old news now?
>>557972613AI has been a constant subject for 3 years, it gets stale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW22jwFNxU8>was thinking of making a cheeky troonlike shartbuilder for the rest of the yearalready started to vibecode it too...
>>557971668>I have a huge procrastination issue>I hate my liferead up on carl jung and "integrating the shadow"the tl;dr is that persistent self-sabotage is caused by repressed aspects of your own psyche, and those aspects show up as characters in your dreams
>>557972887>75% of trailer is a moviegood grief what a bunch of faggots just show the gameplay
ITS OUT NIGGERShttps://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1r93abp/google_releases_gemini_31_pro_with_benchmarks/https://aistudio.google.com/
Progress:Just copied a bunch of images and modified some parameters to make the ref of the style I want for my game (i actually just tried stuff, i had no vision) to pretend I worked on my game today.
>>557973219FVARKKKK but the servers are saturated right now i cant do shit without having to retry 1billion times with pro
>>557973305>i had no visionunc haven't you heard that if you have aphantasia you're done for?
>>557973535That's why I code.
>>557973535is that why i hate art so much?
progress: it all works.
Progress:
>>557974381now ask the model to tell you why agdg is better than never
>>557967480You can't post on /g/ if you use an engine (every non-larper uses an engine)
im using a custom engine but 99% of the people that use a custom engine have 0 need for one and should just use an engine (i need a custom one though)
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I JUST INVENTED A NEW WORKFLOW WITH GEMINI 3.1ITS OVER I FVARKING WON
>>557974810>every non-larper uses an engineThis is false.
>>557970874>progress
>>557973492works for me
>>557976795me on the left
>>557970106kys pedophile
Well shit.Not sure what the best method for creating enemy types is
>>557976308we won, luddite
Im doing good with my graphic tabletIm confident I'll be portfolio ready by may/june
>>557973075If I may be so kind, I guess I just get burned out
>>557966103>>557966148>>557963314>>>/wsg/6096112
>>557975806>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I JUST INVENTED A NEW WORKFLOW WITH GEMINI 3.1>ITS OVER I FVARKING WON
I just discovered I can do this with blender.chuds, BTFO!:D
>>557980281>wanking before a salvia joint
>>557980317boobs too big
I’m trying to decide if I wasted time on a Switch Case system instead of implementing a mere list of enemy types with preset moves.
>>557980317cris, i have repeatedly told you that tits don't look like that. i expect you to fix it prior to your next post.
I have a lot of units (thousands) that need to pathfind their way towards the player. The player can move by running or by blinking. The levels are procedurally generated so I can't bake them ahead of time. Should I pay $70 for some fuckass pathfinding asset and pray it's good enough or try to roll my own?
>>557980317KEK
>>557980505I mean, what engine are you using?If I may be so bold, perhaps group some enemies and treat them as one enemy with many parts
>>557980317Cris fvarking wonnered
>>557980724KEK
ONE(1) WEEK
>>557980990Pain
>>557980712Unity but with ECS, so most builtin things you'd expect to work don't. I considered designating "pack leaders" and having them do all the queries on a navmesh, and having a much simpler AI for their followers, but having a really good pathfinding solution that works natively in ECS systems code would open up some gameplay options.
Aggy,Your time is limited.Count your seconds.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po6MiN2ZSlU
>>557980724
>>557980505roll you own obviously, feed all your game files into gemini 3.1>>557980990picrel shartdew
>>557981121That doesn’t sound like a bad idea honestly. The thing is: How many enemies do you intend to have?
>>557981362i did enjoy the film with jeremy irons though, if you want pedobait just watch leon the professional
>>557980505maybe use a flow based(vectorfield) pathfinding systemyou generate 1 flow map, towards a single target, and all the units can use it at once(with extra logic to avoid overlapping eachother). Planetary Anhelation uses it, and they also have to worry about generating it from procgen geometrythough, you may be able to get away with something else idk
>>557980281that would actually be a cool design for a monster in a horror game. NPCs you know being effectively rolled over repeatedly approaching you while they look happy, glad to see you, or whatever else. Just a big blob of people rolling at you. Shouldn't be that hard to mock up with some random off the shelf NPC generator like unreal has, either.
>>557981761Problem with these is that when you move the target you have to do a big dynamic update, and the player moves a lot and quickly in my game, so keeping it current isn't simple. Most flow fields I've seen either work on really small grids or just assume the target will be static.
>>557982270thanks ideasguy
>>557982680afaik it would still be faster to generate a new flow field every second than a standard pathfinding for 1000s of units
>>557983019Well that's not really the alternative, the alternative is doing something like this with a quadtree, which is what I think existing (expensive) assets do.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95aHGzzNCY8
>>557981362https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jzrKbaPCpQ
>>557978452>we(you) will never succeed at anything
>>557982928No problem, I'll take my .05% revenue check in the mail.
>>557982270Like that monster from Inside?
You know what's terrible?I have an okay-ish ear for music, and can even discern different instruments/beats. But the problem is that my game would require actual physical instruments to make the OST for, because I can't for the life of me find anything similar to a taiko drum online
>>557983921maybe try googling first?https://www.samplescience.info/2022/12/taiko-drums.html
>>557983921https://www.samplescience.info/2022/12/taiko-drums.html?m=1here you go anon
>>557983921Just use AI.It will be a hundred times better than anything you can shit out.
>>557982680generate one for every position in the map in advance
>>557983921https://www.decentsamples.com/https://plugins4free.com/instruments/https://www.samplescience.info/remember to lurk >>>/mu/prod for anything related to audio design
>>557984106Music is the fun part man. The only thing I use AI for is programming help and a few questions
>>557983921Taikos are literally a MIDI standard program and thus any decent soundfont will have them on channel 117, retard.
>>557984291Now you tell me
>>557984484I've been tell you that you're retarded every day tho?
>>557984935No, not really. You seem to call everyone retarded
>>557985002Not everyone. Just most of y'all.
>>557983687best i can do is 0.0000005
how much time do you commit for this shit each week?
>>557985848from 0 to 10, but i spend alot of time just thinking about it and how to proceed so idk
>>557985848i sit on the toilet for maybe 5 mins
>>557985848I'm gonna be honest, I'm utterly ashamed of myself. I spend like one week banging out a few key components, then go dormant for several months before doing it again.I need a better work ethic
>>557984141Considered that but even for a small map (of like 250x250) it would take minutes.
>>557986635*minutes on a CPU, and my game has a CPU-only server. I could try offloading it to compute shaders on clients but that's a little risky.
>>557986304>then go dormant for several monthsooofta, me myself and i the max is 2 weeks before i feel like a failure, hats off to you.
>>557987163I like, just stop doing anything for like three months before cramming a bunch of work into a week.I hate it and wish I was more proactive.
i cant dev without AI anymore and my limits reset in 2 days
>>557987434Limit?
>>557987434you've become the goy sam altman always wanted you to begood work son
>>557987374sounds like a you problem, try masturbating more
>>557987434use another model retard
I just discovered I can use blender as 2D animation tool, chuds.
>>557987808Worthikids does that actually. Cool
>>557987509>you've become the goy sam altman always wanted you to bei know but dario instead :(( that reminds me the codex is free for a limited time to anyoneLFG!! https://files.catbox.moe/hq8j84.mp4
>>557987808how can i do that and render as pixel art without anti aliasing, parce
>>557985068>5 dollars per millionI'll take it. Pleasure working with you, boss.
>>557987808nice cock bro
>>557988382use pixel over.
>>557988667
i dev so that one day i can afford to pay 600 dollars every 6 months for a hair system
>>557987590It IS a me problem! I just felt like saying it!
>>557989508
>>557989591Like, I could've had at least 10 times as much stuff done by now if I just stuck to this crap.I REALLY need to work on this issue
>faggydaggy is dead at lastCool.
>>557990031
>>557982680what exactly do you need the exact path every frame for?surely you can delegate tiers of precision where the ones further away only update every n frames, then the next layer half that time and so on
>>557982680I think that idea you had about multiple simpler AI following an "Actor" makes sense.Maybe make it so that each unit can function as an actor when the "Actor" dies?
>>557991526That's the kind of thing you can do when you're not using flow fields. For them, the queries aren't the expensive part (they're basically free so doing them every frame is no problem,) but rewriting the field every time the player moves is very expensive.
>>557969098What if you do not intend to make money and just want to make something that's worth playing?
>>557991710I'm not the anon who suggested vector fields, and you can still delegate them by only creating a partial vector field of to different hotspots and then have the unit pathfind towards said spots then follow the field if you don't mind them grouping together, that still depends on whatever are you trying to make
>>557992080I forgot to put a "tho" at the end
>>557992075Any game worth playing is worth paying money for.
I've never implemented it, but dijkstras should work pretty well for that case, right? For one, it computes all the shortest paths to/from a point, so you'd do it from the player until you've pathed to all the enemies. For another, it's based on caching "the shortest path from a to b is x" for every pair a and b. Even if the player moves, you can keep the cache and potentially reuse most of it.
>>557992292Wouldn't it being free attract more people?
>>557967480No one talks about gamedev on /g/Is the general shutting down a meme or what?
>>557992928Actually no, especially on Steam. There is no financial incentive for Valve to promote a free game, since they'll be getting 30% of $0. Besides, only retarded 8 year olds who are too pussy to steal mommy's credit card sincerely care for free games. Broke ass turdies know how to pirate. Are you really going to be proud of yourself for appealing to that kind of audience? You might as well go make some roblox brainrot shit.
wtf
>>557993254What's an ideal price, in your opinion?I don't really focus on actually making money, because I have other income sources I'm focusing on. How much would I need to charge to get Steam's attention?
>>557993412It depends on the genre, but you need around $1=1hr playtime to reach algorithmic approval in most genres.
btw its been f*g*** shitting up and trying to get rid of /agdg/if u thought u knew how insane he was hes 10x more insanehe should be locked up in a mental institute>>>/v/733408534>>>/v/733409447>>>/v/733410126
>>557993543Hmm. I think itch might be a better bet in that case? IDK how long it would take to get through my game exactly. Although I could create a "Test map" based on a rough sketch of a level and then like, time how long it'd take to get through it?I don't think I'd be able to finish this because I'm utterly terrible at modeling even if I did pick up the basics relatively fast. Like, I'm 4/5ths done with the actual gameplay mechanics side of things, I just have zero models or animations.
>>55799386290%+ of the retards who post here will never release a playable video game, so you'd be in good company. Starting with and actually shipping Pong automatically puts you in the top 10%.
>>557993727Is Jollibees closed or something, AliceFag?
>>557994003What's the baseline for a playable game? A main menu, pause menu, gameplay, anddddd... What else?
>held " and moved mouse to 5 hours to center viewport into an object on Blender>nothing happenedIt's over. They changed all keybinds after my 2 years 3d hiatus.
>>557994095Some SFX+VFX juice, music, and a store page.
>released pong>feelsgoodman.jpg
watch him squirm as he gets called out for what hes doing
>>557994294Wouldn't that discount Pong because it has no music?
>>557994412You'd need to learn analog electronics if you really wanted to replicate the original Pong. Pong is a metaphor for a very tiny, but complete and playable game.https://20_games_challenge.gitlab.io/challenge/
>Pong is a metaphor
>>557994523So really, what is "Complete?"Assuming I can finish all the gameplay mechanics, which I'm near, but don't really know how to model, what next?
This your fault. You caused all of this. I hope you're happy.
>>557994523So like that thing me and my sister did with RPGmaker once?
>>557994641make it fun with only cubes.
>>557994853Can do!
>>557994171I have a flash drive put up with all my blender keybinds from pre 3.0 saved on it. Could never get used to the new ones.
>>557994641>So really, what is "Complete?"If you can link to it and we can play right away, and it's not so awful that the game convinces us to close it within the first few minutes.>>557994751Yeah, that's fine.
how do we fix the lizard situation
>>557995396Well, now I have a reason to make the gameplay more refined than ever to make up for the lack of graphics beyond cubes, cylinders, and capsules.
>>557995474You can make pretty good tacos out of the cold-stunned lizards that fall out of the trees in Florida.
can someone create me a tool to create trees from edges in blender for me please thank youdo it asap btw
>>557995601Ask grok
give gamers what they want
>>557995396She did the art actually. It was very cute. She's actually very good at what she does, to the point that she's an animation/art teacher and has gotten a ton of jobs, and I'm very proud of her
Going to use AI to generate me references to make my characters.
>>557996108You do that
>>557996319Does ANYONE consider recycling E-waste parts to make better stuff?
Proggy.Working on the new enemies.This one is a Wraith heavily inspired by the Vampire Wraiths from Soul Reaver. Just need to finish the textures.It's the first ranged enemy so it's planned to be able to shoot magic projectiles and teleport around to evade attacks.
>>557996552I like it! Kinda N64 ish.
>>557995601any moment now
>>557989263
Eric, can I visit your home sometime in the future, it looks cozy, nice and relaxing, I hope I can meet my idol Eric sometime in the future, and maybe if lucky taste the delicious amber cookinghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IAZhRQSe4FI
You haven't integrated LLMs and machine learning into your amateur game? NGMI.
>>557996854I FUCKING CANNOT
>>557996478There's factories in China that do nothing but make Frankenstein hardware for gamers out of old servershit. No one in the west is doing it though.
>>557996478it depends on the E-waste in question, for anything older than ~5 years it's simply not possible, at most you can get the raw copper/plastic/gold etc but the components are old and slow and above all things inefficient, waste energy AKA hot
>>557997047I feel like there's something we can do with these
>>557969098my game was already good after the first 3 months thougheverbeit
>>557997346proofs?
>>557997186move to the arctic and get heating for free
>>55798584820-40hrs
>>557997508Honestly reusing E-waste to make less complicated devices seems like a good idea
>>55798584820 minutes gamedev 50 hours shitposting
Eric use his own home as reference to make haunted chocolatier assets, haunted chocolatier going to be certified kino
is there anything like this but good?https://liberatedpixelcup.github.io/Universal-LPC-Spritesheet-Character-Generator/
>>557997475I ain't got shit to prove lil nigga
>>5579966062 more weeks
Tomorrow I'll try to see if I can use AI as modelling reference, using a LORA of my own drawings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB_uMG4tC4A>almost 2k likes>200 positive commentsDOES NO ONE SEE THE GRASS CLIPPING THROUGH THE FLOOR?!DOES NO EVEN CARE ANYMORE?!AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLZ??!?!?!?!?!!!!I would never let this slide in my game...
>>557998249>no gameI accept your concession.
>>557993727>BE CAREFUL GUYS>IT'S POOPDICKSCHIZO
>>557998929dumb zoomzoom
>>557998929No one cares, retard.
>>557999104stfu pissbuttfag
>>557998929game does not matter at this point, marketing has worked its magic.the cattle have succumbed to herd mentality and will follow their leader wherever he leads.
If I wasn't drunk I would cum.
>>557998647how can i create a vector from float inputs
>>557999719figured out>vector mul>use float as the first vector>use the second as your vector axis
>>557999013If only you knew how dope things really are
>never used C++>isn't a vector just an array or list>yuuuuup
>>558000064>it was real in my mind
>>558000149
>>558000072That's misleading as hell, huh?
https://youtu.be/x30u10gtGco?si=nCbzrRPWU9T_rINXif i'm good at drawing + animation like this, should i rather continue as an independent creator or should i try doing gigs/freelancing/finding a fulltime job?i only have 5-15 hours of free time after work. i dont want to think of this as a side hustle, but i dont want to call it's just a casual hobby either. i genuinely want to be this good, and add some money to my funds since my job pay jackshit and i want to move out of my parent's house. i make $300 a month, i want to be at least make $500-$1000 a month.
>>558000723Why are you asking here?
>>558000857where else?
>>558000723>ifYou're not.>i genuinely want to be this goodYou won't be.How do I know this? Because you're busying crying on an anonymous basket weaving forum instead of improving your skills.
>>558001040what im trying to say is should i just please myself or should i get extra cash out of it too
>>558000885What does this have to do with gamedev?
>>558001220It doesn't matter. You will fail and be miserable either way.
>>557998729Are you going to generate AI images that are going to be inconsistent and different every frame, or are you going to do something like generating a 3D model and generate animations for it that then will be consistent due to being generated once?Not that I have any idea if that will work, just spitballing.
>>558001490NTA but why are you such a dick to everyone around you?Is this why you're here?
Fuck this gay earth, ill follow a tutorialblender manual needs examples
>>557993727>It's all deleted nowWell, well, well.
I will always post progress here, frens. (sorry I didn't post any this week, I was depressed and didn't have any energy to dev)
>>558001885A kind lie can make you feel good in the moment, but the harsh truth can save you from years of prolonged suffering that ultimately gets you nowhere. Not everyone has it within themselves to "make it" in hyper-competitive spaces like gamedev or animation.
>>558002350thats ok mongol. looking forward to your next progress
>>558002202why did u felt the need to double replyur obsessed go get ur meds
>Carl Jung famously stated, "Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate".>This means that unresolved, hidden, or ignored aspects of the psyche (the shadow) drive an individual's actions, leading to recurring, self-destructive patterns that seem like bad luck. i theorize that video games are so popular because they're one of the psychologically "safest" ways to confront "the shadow"how many jungian archetypes appear in your game...?
>>558002752There's a kind lie and then there's just being a cunt.If you're going to say this kinda shit, you gotta be less aggressive, otherwise they're GOING to dismiss you as just an asshole rather than someone trying to offer advice.That's how conversations work, man
>>558003059jung was satanic, cris be better
>>558003225>jung was satanic(((freudian))) propaganda
>>558003201>That's how conversations work, manconversations, yes, but not demoralization propagandademoralization propaganda is loud, confident, and frequently repeated
>>558003201Conversations can only happen at peer level intelligence, and you're not there yet. It's your life and you can waste yours in whatever manner you choose.
It's official, to become a successful game dev and have very successful games, you need to have Autism and ADHD, if you don't have these, don't bother become gamedev
Adding some UI for companions.
>>558004032>Autism and ADHDWait these are beneficial? I thought I was NGMI because of these
>>558004032eric overcame executive disfunction of adhd from pure grit. he doesn't appear autistic in interviews, he's super chill
>>558004124Most of the faggots here who think they have autistic spectrum disorder really just have narcissistic personality disorder. Many high-IQs can be extremely high-functioning even with more severe autism by using their superior mental capabilities to emulate normal human abilities like empathy.
>>558004359>Most of the faggots here who think they have autistic spectrum disorder really just have narcissistic personality disordertrvke
>>558003670I'm not even the guy you're insulting. You just insult everyone around you AND refuse to post anything you've worked on.If you're not working on a game, get out.
>>558004124If you have the kind of autism that helps you jestermax you're going to make it. If you're a sperg you're fucked.
>>558004359Studies claim that spergs have higher empathy though
>>558004435I don't insult everyone. Some posters here are a complete lost cause and aren't even worth insulting anymore. Some posters here are fairly competent and stand a good chance of making it eventually. If you feel targeted, that just means something about your posts make you stand out as a low-skill retard.
>>558004656
>>558004823In all honesty, I have severe self-esteem issues, so literally anything that makes me feel bad hurts worse because it just amplifies what I hear every day 24/7.
Slept watching a zukowski video and woke up to a gregorian chant livestream. It was ai generated. Shtty thing to do desu https://youtu.be/izGLo9-q7T4
Wait, is this really it? I didn't even get to learn game dev yet.
>>558004823>i was abusive because you deserved it
>>558005135>>558005328You grew up this way because your fatherless households and your pathetic feminized education system failed to teach you the discipline you need to succeed in the real world. Life is supposed to be hard. The sooner you accept and adapt to the truth of reality, the lower your chance of being homeless once mommy stops being able to house you.Reality will not be bent by your feelings. You either git gud, or git rekt.
>>557974810>let me go and tell liesTypical /agdg/ behavior.
Thread theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYPmGdALE7I
>>558005761Jumping into the conversation, will not read any replies: Post game, hehe.
>>558005317dodged a bullet. go make a boardgame
>>558005761Andddd?
>>558004823>Some posters here are fairly competent and stand a good chance of making it eventually.Thanks.
>>558006385I'm rooting for you, Branno.
>>558005135I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you are able to do something about it.>>558006307What did you get to work?
>>558005761Look, I have a career plan and stuff. I have a job and everything, and have a path forward.I'm just saying that I struggle with how I've valued literally everyone else's opinion over my own for my whole life.Like, you could tell me the sky was red and I'd say "Okay" even though my opinion was otherwise. IDK why I believe everyone else is some kind of authority figure.
>>558007426>Like, you could tell me the sky was red and I'd say "Okay" even though my opinion was otherwise. IDK why I believe everyone else is some kind of authority figure.youre a faggot
>>558007426>slave mentalityYou were never destined to be your own person.
>>558007615Isn't that the "Discipline" you wanted?I know for a fact that I shouldn't just treat everyone else's opinion as overriding my own, but I can't help but do it subconsciously.
>>558007740Discipline means to be regimental and hard on yourself. It takes a lot of hard work to git gud at anything, and it takes even more hard work to actually make the things you want to make after you learn the necessary skills. You need to be prepared to put in the hours. In fact, if you really wanted to make video games, you should've been putting tens of thousands of hours into learning applicable skills since you were in your early teens.
Billionaires pits everyone making 100k a year to 10k a yearHonestly just having a job puts you above 80% of the populationYou have aspirations to do, skill to get you by, money for independence, and time for hobbiesThe fuck those unemployed retards do on the daily? Scroll goon and bicker on social media daily. Can't even enjoy a proper hobby and becoming constant disappointment to their parents.Their parents are in their 40s 50s still making minimum wage and they themselves will never be able to reach their parents level.If you have a job right now and use your entire free time doing jackshit that doesnt improve your identity like studying more, learning a language, doing hobby projects that accentuates the degree + education that you went through, connecting with other hardworking / talented people around you or above you and only mingle with what the unemployed retards do like scrolling, gooning, bickering on socials maybe you havent learned your lesson yet. Maybe you should just go back being unemployed.
>Learning ALL the skills is too time consuming! I'll never be able to do it!>No, I won't ask for help from anyone else.Just get really good at one or two things and find someone else to fill in for what you lack.
>>558008087So what I've done my whole life really? Hate myself and work harder even when it costs me sleep?
>>558008423I've given this advice many times in this thread: solo indie gamedev is one of the absolute hardest things you can be doing with your life, but getting a specialized job at a game studio is way easier, and is something attainable by most people. If you really wanted to work on good video games that you can be proud of, that is by far the easiest route.>>558008496Work hard < work smart <<<<< (insurmountable power gap) <<<<< work smart and hard
>>558008312The average job does not get you enough money to cover rent, food and living expenses on your own. You also realistically spend 10 hours out of the 16 hours in the day on commute/work.
Progress:3 hours to do this.
>>558008669I mostly solodev out of necessity because I have no connections outside of the art industry.
>>558008843a 2d background was fine, and smarter for solo dev. what made you want to do 3d?
>>558008843This is the ref btw >>557973305lmao
In this thread: demoralization propaganda from someone who wants to reduce competition for himself>>558008669>solo indie gamedev is one of the absolute hardest things you can be doing with your lifeNot really... it depends on the scope of the game. Even people who are busy with life are able to make games if they properly allocate their time. The first step for you is to admit you want less competition and this is why you're wasting your time demotivating an anonymous poster.
>>558008763after 2-3 years you'll get a better jobthe fuck you'll do sitting 2-3 years being unemployed?
>>558007668kys pedophile
>>558009316>the fuck you'll do sitting 2-3 years being unemployed?video game
>>558009161My 2d skills are negative. I'm going forward pre rendered low res backgrounds.Not sure tho.
why do i only get inspiration during early morning?
>>558009397That long?
>>558009263If you think gamedev is easy, you are either a beginner or a cris-tier perma/beg/ making shovelware garbage that no one cares for. You are not my competition. My competition includes games like Skyrim, RE, DMC5, Death Stranding, MH: World, etc. all on sale at under $10 on Steam right this moment.>>558009195>all of my thread enemies are the same personretard
>>558009787post game
So... Whatever happened to the cancel attempts
>>558009932Ladies first
>>558009521ok that sounds alright. and would be easier to keep consistent vs looking for backgrounds and running into a mix of AI and real..
I see gamedev as a way to talk to people and make friends.
not idea how ill fix the perspective without using a orthogonal camera tho
>>558009836geg
>>558010269What's wrong with it?
>>558009939Which ones?
I'm ALMOST there
>>558010458moving to one scene to another will show that gap/seam thingnot really a problem tho because my camera movement is just "teleport to next scene"
>>558011472That looks more like a UV problem than a camera perspective problem.
>>558011472Hmmmmm. Maybe you need to place images more closely?
>>558011670>>558011723I mean those are 4 static images, the "world" is made of pictures taken in different positions so you could see where the images end/start if you have a free camera, but my game doesnt have a free camera (but I want to have tho lmao)
>>558012090I don't see what you're getting at
>>558012162
>>558012589The white line or image borders at all?
>>558012704yea the borders
>>558012875Well, I don't know what to tell you then. Your images themselves are improperly lined up on an angular basis.If you wanted a smoother transition, you'd take them all from the same angle
Took me a bit to figure out, but I finally have an enemy who actually fights you and stuff. While I don't show this, his moveset is fully customizable as well via the inspector, including shockwave attacks and ranged ones.The lack of animation makes it look like nothing is happening, but the enemy is really throwing some stuff at you.Now imagine there being at least 5 of him going at you all at once.Horary, I did a thing! Onto less complicated stuff like picking items up and shit.
>>558013171>Onto less complicated stuff like picking items up and shit.
>>558013171is this a devil may noselike
>>558013171nigga is making a gow likeholy kino
>>558013301Trust me, it's less complicated. I know from experience.>>558013319Noselike?
>>558013406If I was a better or fastser modeler I could have something out on Steam probably within the year.
>>558012589but why
>>558013301Also it took me only about a week to implement a functional enemy system.Inventory or health stuff is going to be a cakewalk by comparison.
how did you learn to use claude code?any tutorials to recommend?
>>558013908What gaem. Unless there’s an NDA
>>558012589you should mess with the camera settings and render a single ultra wide shot
>>558014058Which company?
>>558013898https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u9iX5_z8Rs
>>558013898ask claude to teach you
I like otters
>>558013898>any tutorials>for AItopkek ngmi
ruh ohhttps://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1r8zrxf/gemini_31_pro_makes_a_nms_style_space_exploration/
>>558015736wow it made Elite(1984) with a phong shader
>>558015815now let's see your game
>>558015894My game is way better but im in bed so i can't show you
>>558015961>My game is way better but im in bed so i can't show you
>>558015894
>>558016028kek
Fuck now I feel sad again
>>558016389
finna be devinhttps://youtu.be/dQxr_tVsiU8?si=HHLvw8AY0-6hAjuN&t=1072
>>558017319>larper whos self admittedly too retarded for graphics programming
>>558016618I don’t know what it is, but I need to stop looking at stuff that makes me upset
>>558017506
has anyone tried pixieditor? is it good and how does it compare to aseprite?
Yet another progress-free pastrypost incoming.I went to a proper bakery and got these mini croissants, half with raspberry, the other half with something like Nutella.Worked a full 5 hours yesterday but made very little progress. I was fiddling with transparencies and gradients on something that doesn't matter, like at all. For today I have prepared a list of tasks and low standards for what's acceptable.I remember years ago I was making some content for my previous game and I added something that was meant to be temporary and it was marked as temporary and it's been on my list to redo, but no one ever complained so I got away with spending two days on something that would have otherwise taken me two, three weeks. That's the mindset I need to rediscover.
>>558017319>Grifter interactive
>>558000434>says im a little bit righti accept your concession
>>558019009the only thing progressing is your waistline lardass
I dread having to do the marketing for my gaem
Does that have anything to do with your game being illegal in a lot of countries and jurisdictions?
>>558018391how many wishlists?
maybe the real game is the friends we made along the way
You think Gabe Newell has any friends, or he just pays people to be nice?
>>558021550money buys you all the friends you need
>>558021750The flow money is ultimately controlled via American weapon systems.
>>558021550I bought him a steak, not something I would do for a stranger. he can call me anytime, I'm there for him.
>>>/v/733429501Realistically, what are their chances of actually pulling this off?
what do you think of bosses that has unique mechanic to fight them? like for example only this boss you can cut it's body parts off, will players be pissed that this mechanic only work on this boss?
>>108195176If i rent a place closer to my job, i can effectively cut commute to just 15 minutes x 2 per day. I can pursue my digital art hobbies as much as 2 hours on weekdays. But i will literally have ZERO budget for entertainment/hangouts/savings.If i dont rent a place closer to my job, i can use the money to buy the shit i always wanted when i was younger, upgrade my wardrobe, buy dakimakuras and shit, but i can only just go home to sleep, sketch a bit on my sketchbook, then only able to draw digitally on weekends.What do fellas
>>558021550https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ruw4kydkpo
>>558023760that sucks because if its one thing I need in my life its the respect of an anon
>>558023589it's good. I would only be pissed if you taught me how to fight through out the whole game, and then for the boss, give me some completely new mechanic that runs counter to everything. (like an fps, and then the boss takes you to a third person melee). forgivable if it's easy I guess though.
What will your game prove?
>>558025504it will prove that you're gay
>>558025504it will prove I'm worthy of love.
>>558025504I hate marketing. Its just an endless humiliation ritual.
>>5580255040 sales incoming
>>558025504there are a bunch of chess roguelikes already. even an agdg one (pawnbarian).my game will prove that I have disappointed my parents
What's a point beyond "because it's fun/interesting" that keeps you gamedeving?For me, it's seeing some of my favorite games not doing certain things that would just make the gameplay experience so much better.So it's a "fuck it, I'll do it myself" kind of thing.
>animation file for walking left and right has 80+ images
>>558026171#truth_bomb #real_indie_struggles #game_rant_friday
>>558027043for me it's money and lack of other ways to earn it
>>557967830finally have online capabilities working. you can now create a P2P lobby through steam. So now its time to start animating the first character.. this is going to take ages
>>558027043same here. Ive played many roguelikes and theyre all missing something. My game seeks to address that, just more of the good stuff
>>558028327gay
>>558027043yeah that's part of it for me. very few games seem to interest me these days. I don't like a lot of modern trends.
>>558027043It started out as a dumb little story I wanted to tell via a game and then it became my personal overscoped nightmare project100% gonna be worth it though, I'm very excited to get to the good parts.
i shouldve been born a nepobaby like b*r*ne *r*c
guys what should I price my game at?https://store.steampowered.com/app/4198810/Item_Shop_Simulator/
>>558029695bout tree fiddy
>>5580296952.99 tops
>>558019009Those don't look like croissants at all. They look like doughy hotdog buns, a croissant should be flaky. I'm assuming you're in the UK because you eat like shit and consider slabs of garbage to be a delicate treat. If you're going to continue to live like this, you need to stop putting whatever the fuck is clouding up your drink because that will be what takes you over the edge. Having a sugar habit like this is legitimately stupid, there is no gain from eating sugar garbage and even the supposed uplifting effect is negated by the later draining effects of this shite nutrition and the hormonal problems this lifestyle grants you. If you want to be motivated to work in a chair like a fat faggot the best course of action is to do some vigorous exercise, after you've had a moment to rest you'll feel significantly more energized and it also helps offset the undeniably unhealthy hobbies spent sitting in front of a computer.But you are an antagonizing faggot ritual blog poster, so your feminine & rotted brain will not accept this and you will eat more to retaliate against anons for trying to help you. Fuck you.
you guys have no idea how difficult 2D animation is bwos
>>558030139I do have an idea
>>558029695free.
>>558029835uh oh melty
>>558030139My arts teacher had us do flipbook animations just to show us how difficult it is to do 2D animation.
>>558030724Im using Spine which is easier than drawing frame by frame but its still a major pain in the ass, holy shit. it has bugs too despite being so old
In Godot, you can avoid using nodes for almost everything.
If my game is good and I sell it for cheap will all the other indie devs get mad at me?Is there price collusion going on that I need to be aware of?
if you guys could see this walking animation you'd bully meIm going to have to redo it till it looks like someone walking
>>558031140I'm already mad at you.
>>558031187I always have this in mind when i animate a walk
No sign of life since launch...Cuffjeet bros...
I wish real life was a idle game.I wish i didnt have to do anything everything would do itself and i could just sleep and put points into upgrading things and go back to sleep for another week.Life is so exhausting.I dont want to eat i dont want to go to the toilet i dont want to go take a shower i dont want to do anything i dont even want to make games i want the games to make themselves and i just collect the praise and the sales money people throw my way because of just how amazing my game is.
>>558031187Would be nice to see your progress, but this place is more tell than show
>>558031656he is no longer with us, he CUFFBUSTed peacefully in his sleep...
>>558031661maybe life is that but your player is making the dumbest choices.
You don't need to have natural born talent in art, you only need to learn to draw from reference and use AI to generate your references.
>>558031854>and use AI to generate your references.that's gay though
>>558032036pedotroon luddite moment
im so fucking hot
>>558031318do voice actors really make that much? i doubt it
>>558032163I'm gay and use AI ref
https://x.com/shiny_peso/status/1979263841629327499
>>558032342your israeli xisters wont like that xis...
>>558032468using AI for ref is gay. just use the AI image duh
i have cute balls okay
>>557968254It's impossible to gatekeep an anonymous forum and the jannies don't do their fucking job and keep spammers and schizos out. You end up with permabegs and freaks shitting up the thread as a result. We need to gatekeep game dev more.
I'm done making games that are just "X game but Y". That was cool for my first few projects but the training wheels are coming off. Time to make something original.
>>558032661your mom needs to send you back to therapy your posts are increasingly incoherent
>>558031708I animated the first enemy decently, but I dont have a screen recorder to share itany tips?
What's the name of the aggydaggy dev who spent over 100k commissioning art for his robot sex game?
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamePhysics/comments/1r83y9s/omni_built_universe_physics_sdk_turning_it_into/I love how much vibe coding has enabled retards to think they're doing something. in the past they'd have some idea like this, quickly realise they couldn't do it, and either be forced to learn an actual skill, or move on. but now this guy can have the AI give him a script that says shit like "8KB COMPRESSION -> 8 KB OUTPUT. SOVEREIGN . FLAWLESS OUTPUT. HUTTER SCORE: 5.0"
>>558033203>a redditor did this and here is how it applies to you too'dites are going insane
>>558032974The OP has the help>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>download obs and webm converter>open obs, set a scene to your game or screen>record video>open webm converter>input file (your vid) and go to the encoding tab>size limit to 4MB>click convert>upload webm to 4chan
>>558033278huh? I'm just saying it enabled retards to do something dumb. doesn't mean it's bad overall. feeling a touch defensive, cris?
>>558030139Automate with local ai?
FYGOON JUST FRAMEMOGGED THE AGGY FRAT LEADER
>>558034113If aggy was a frat what would the hazing ritual be
>>558034521yeah it's fineit's the wild west in this bitch
Um, why is the general slow today. >>558034250making pong
>>558033112Found it! It's Bedabots https://tinkeringturian.itch.io/bedabotsdemo
>>558034521What's the worst that could happen
>>558034521Bro is paying 50k a year in tuition to study 4chan
>>558033336>>557967830walking animation of the first enemy, a lime slimeThis was really easy, mainly because he's a slime all his animations were quite simplecharacters on the other hand..
>>558035559I told you to fix your tits you stupid faggot stop posting these horrific abominations just kill yourself you stupid fuck
>>558035704that's one more than zerolook on the bright side fren :)
>>558034521See https://www.4chan.org/contactThere used to be some broader categories in the feedback form, but now I only see the "bug report" and "ip ban" categories. Maybe people abused the other ones. You could try contacting them via twitter which seems the only generic contact option but I suspect you will not get a response.
>>558034521Join here and ask: https://discord.gg/7x754xTvd
>>558031661Thanks for making this post.It made me realize that among those without talent, wealth or connections, the only ones who are going to make it are those who have the grit to do uncomfortable things for long periods of time. So I immediately closed the browser and worked some more on my game. Your post was very relatable, I was having the same thoughts, when it just hit me that this is the line that separates people who make it from people who are never gonna make it. To succeed I need to become a better person than I was until now, better than you are right now. I'm sorry anon, but the reason you have to fail is so that I can make it. Life NEEDS to be so difficult and uncomfortable so I can have a chance at success despite having no talent, because there's only so many winning prizes to go around.
>>558034521>better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permissionor something like that
>>558035704You made a game, no one can take it away from you
>>558035990Those who rise to the challenge are the only ones who can come out on topI have a buddy who doesn't like competition, he feels genuinely guilty about winning, because the other person has to lose.You can't be like that. Some will succeed, others will fail. That's just how it goes. All you can do is anything in your power to steer your life to your desired outcome.And for most of us, that means working on your damn game no matter what
>>558035254>game genre that many threads are about hereHe's probably doing a thesis on gacha games lmao.
>>558036524make sure to tell this faggot that games helped you sleep better, got rid of your back pain, and made your dick grow 2 inches or else he'll take your waifu away.
r.i.p cris
>>558032627Didn't spellcheck the text, only skimmed it, but this video is probably perfect.
it's been a while, i've been refactor everything from oop style to fat struct of things, i think i'm a bit retarded wasting times like this but feels good to back to adding stuffs >:D
prince andrew on all fours bad deal im signing his torture
>>558037075Very cool
Well, time to build one of the best games ever.
>>558037483>one ofEXTREME NGMI energy
>>558037552You'll see. My game is going to produce shock and awe in this general.
>>558036524I can already tell you that "it definitely would" but "they're not gonna like it". Unlike normal gambling games, you can spin the roulette here for free (up to an amount). No matter how much you say that the rates are fucked and the gem packs are too expensive, the addicts will just say "uhm bro it's a f2p game just don't play it? I've been playing for free since release just fine!" (ignore that they spent hundreds of hours just to keep up with the lowest currency spender).Since spending money is optional it's difficult to regulate it. And if you tried, you'd have to go through battlepasses and lootboxes first, you can't kill just one head of the hydra. But good luck I guess.
>>558038678>(ignore that they spent hundreds of hours just to keep up with the lowest currency spender)also ignore that they buy battlepasses and 2x limited time offers and bonus login rewards and shiti have seen people say that doesnt count and they still count as f2p
>>558038678>stop having fun for hundred of hours!!
the universe is fighting tooth and nail to make sure my video game doesn't get released, everyone around me is possessed by demons, the CIA is in on it, aliens as well, the demiurge, my friends and family, they're all trying to distract me, trying to fill me with anxiety and doubt but God (the real, good one) put me on this Earth for a reason
>>558036524Good luck bro, all the people I know who are addicted to gacha are like crack addicts who insist it is harmlessMeanwhile they're obsessing over a game that is trying to monopolize either your time or your money, you get to pick which way you get fucked at least.You wanna waste hours grinding out free in-game currency or do you want to empty your bank account? Pick your poison, faggot!There is a complete and total lack of respect on the behalf of the developers of those games toward their playerbase. They don't respect your time, or your money.I think gacha players enjoy being degraded, they love getting shit on. The same type of people who are paypigging for streamers and e-grils.They're fucking idiots that get taken advantage of. And they LOVE IT. They cannot get enough of it.
All I'm getting from this is that I should dev a gacha game
>>557966103Will I get more hate if I hide the fact that I used AI like void war or if I straight up say I used AI?
>>558039570you'll need a team of psychologists on your side to make it as addictive as humanly possible
>>558037075Reminds me of my favorite demo day game, jusha :)
>>558037075attack looks very satisfying
>>557987808you can use blender for video editing too
>>558039621Any dev worth their salt is already a master of player psychology
in my game, there will be Frosted Mugs.
>>558040157true, true
>>558039614Anyone? I'm making my steam page.
>>558039614Hide it and then blame it on the fall guyYou... do have a fall guy right?
>>558040462I don't but I noticed that people cannot even tell that it's using AI: https://www.reddit.com/r/voidwargame/comments/1r1ckv2/does_void_war_use_ai_assets/ It feels like if you make a good game you can get away with it but if the game is mid you are finished.
>>558029835https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kifli
>>558040320To what extent did you use it? are visible/audible in-game art assets made using AI? if so I think you should declare it, if it's just invisible optimization stuff I don't think anyone cares
>>558039614kys
>>558039614>>558040320Upfront may get you more hate initially but it's safer because hiding it runs the risk of mass refunds after people find out even for players that are past the 2hr mark.Refunds fuck you because you loose more money than you initially made from the purchase due to processing fees.Safer to only sell only to slop enjoyers because they won't be a ticking time bomb.
>don't make your dream game on the first attemptI GET IT I GET ITNow, is there someone with insight about evolving from your first projects into bigger ones?Actually what I want is the tales of people that went from AA to AAA, or at least attempted to do so
>>558041546Look up interviews with current AAA devs who worked since the 90s, no I don't have any.
Ever since I've stopped taking Lion's Mane Mushrooms, I feel much better.
I just imagined her Red Hair, Prominent Front Teeth, Prominent Clavicle, Tall Height, and Freckles.She is perfection. I love her.
>>558042028sounds like some ginger abomination that's perfect for a monster in a horror game
>>558041873you disconnected from the mycelial hivemind
>>558041546I'm making my Dream game thoughbeit.
my dream game is one that earns me at least the minimum wage per dev hour invested
>>558027043Because I wanna
>>558042420Actually, she's the most beautiful woman ever.
I feel terrible.Why?
>>558043453Vitamin D and monster energy
>>558043453Incompetence.
I was being held hostage for over 40 minutes in a Aram mayhem game where both teams wanted to just stack heartsteel and anvils forever and never end so i used invisibility to sneak past the farming going on in the middle of the map and walked directly to the nexus and right clicked it and ended the game while they were busy farming heartsteel stacks off each other and half the lobby(including people from my own team) added me after the game to send me death threats
>>558043453How's your sleep? You have to remember to get 8 hourgors of sleep.
>>558043301>2026>still noticing or giving a shit about w*men
>>558041546I'm making my dream game on the first attempt, or well, I've tried making it before, scrapped everything and started over 3 times but the vision remains the same, I just can't bring myself to work on something I'm not interested in, I don't want to make some silly 2D platformer or whatever just for the sake of it
>>558035282Not too bad. Feels like you can make them a bit more wiggly.
>>558043604You lack both discipline and vision.
>>558043554Idk
>>558038985This but unironically
>>557966103>The final thread editionWhat happened?
>>558044012we got a game overbut there was a continue
I wish there was like a Dagestan but for gamedev, you go there 2-3 years and you come back with 5 games made.
>>558043803yeah well, you know, that's like your opinion man
>>558044012Thread didnt get bumped and fell off the catalogue
>>558044259Nah. That's a FACT.
>>558037401>>558039764>>558040014
Why
>>558044582I take it back, kill yourself ritualposting faggot your fatherless behavior is why we have so many schizos around now *spit*.
>>558037072In what way?
>>558044531I'm like 10 kojimbos inside one person, you don't know what it's like inside my brain, you wouldn't last 5 minutes in my brain shoes dude
>>558037075I wish I could do this
>>558044867It's all in your mind. None of it exists as computer software.
>>558045014And that's why you write it down on a .txt file
https://www.fab.com/limited-time-freetimmy the generous's gift expires soon
>>558044773
controversial take: i FVARKING love AI (artifical intelligence)
>>558045280Don't let the seething nodev bother you, lil sis. Keep up the good work.
>>557996552if you're making a runescape clone you need to back the fuck off because that's what im doing
Making your dream game as first project>make a thorough design document>organize it into general tasts that occupy all the game (eg HUD, physics, combat system) and individual applications of it (discrete levels and plot)>the former is very frontloaded but it's mostly an once-and-done task when finished and makes the latter pretty smooth sailing>DON'T SCOPE CREEP IN THE MIDDLE OF DEV BECAUSE IT THREATENS THE WHOLE STRUCTURE
I don't want to implement collide and slide AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I feel sick as hell
>>558045871that's basically what I dida lot of time dedicated to building a frame I could fill with content
>>558045871The problem with this plan is that you fumbled horribly at the first step because you're asking a zero-skill nodev to do thorough design work. Design is the hardest part and requires the most experience. Imagine if you walked into a game studio and you found the least experienced developers doing design work and the most experienced developers doing implementation grunt work.
>>558046237no better way to learn than by doing it, or at least trying to do it until you canyour dream game may end up poorly designed and shit, but you can learn a lot from a "failed" projectDo it for the experience
>>557968254too many game enginesnone of them good or usefulthis applies both to engines you use and engines you make yourself
>>558046369That's is why the leading recommendation from experienced developers to new developers is to make small games, not dream games. It's so that you can fail fast instead of wasting years or even decades on absolute garbage.
>>558046550I get it, but people are still going to chase their dream game no matter how much sensible advice you give themI would recommend anyone stuck on their dream game to do some game jams for low commitment side games
>>558044012picrel>>557973219
>>558045871While it's not my first project; most of them never left the proto tech build, this current small idea is expanding to a bigger concept. Been planning out a story, structure, the likes. You'll all get to watch it crash and burn in real time if I don't keep fueling the dev fire.
>>558046872kys troon pedo freak
How would you recommend I learn game design?Art and coding are relatively straightforward and I've been getting better the more I do them. Designing an engaging and good game seems to be the real thing that separates successful games from failures. I guess it's also something you'd learn by doing, hence the "make many small games" advice. But how would you teach even the fundamentals of game design? At least the other skills have fundamentals you can learn to start you off right before practice.
>>558047952Just make original animations with music and post them on youtube instead, way more money, less design demand, and it's actually something we need more of (in good quality and not some gay furry shit)
>>558047952Game design is more a matter of pacing and understanding how it all fits together.You need to evaluate each system as part of a greater whole
>>558047952first you must play 1000 games
>>558047952Game design is another entire 4-year degree. Here's a short primer: https://www.raphkoster.com/2025/11/03/game-design-is-simple-actually/
>>558047952Game design is basically, the higher level articulation that you throw to the peons who actually implement it (this is not true)Can you successfully explain your mechanic in a way that makes sense why it's being implemented that way, can you outline the entire game from start to finish, can you tell somebody why the level works the way it works (roller coaster analogies are very common)Whether that's the high level organization (there's a talk from the designer of MLB The Show on PS3 and his design documents are stuff like for example, outlining the entire game's UX in flowcharts) This is why ideaguys are not game designers, they have an idea but can not actually explain it from end to end
you guys ungerstand that it is possible to make bite-sized portions of your dream game right?Like, say you finish the combat for a 3D RPG.And then you make a bite-sized Adventure game out of that combat slice.The Customer eats the bite sized game, like a small piece of chocolate. While you're still making the big meal game. It's like an appetizer.
>>558048372Going all out will make it kino
>>558048372Except when I go to a restaurant, I don't want my appetizer and main dish to be the same thing.Imagine buying an appetizer tray of mozzarella sticks then ordering a big plate of lasagna.
>>558048372Honestly my biggest hurdle is my inability to animate or model anything.
>>558048372you're talking to guys who dream about making a game but aren't making shit.
>>558048372>>558048673The way programming languages and game engines insist, largely needlessly, on making threading/game loops/engine ticks all work with as much unintuitive ass backwards boilerplate as possible is so fucking unbearable. It's actually WORSE coding for new systems than for 2010 systems. We've somehow gone backwards. I want to die.
>>558013641lazyness I sould just port to Godot and make it full 3d
>>558047952Play gamesIf you’ve been playing games since you’re a kid it should be obvious what works in a game and what doesn’t Colleges don’t teach this and it’s why every “gamedev” with a degree is shitty, they’d be better off playing games for 4 years straight
