Techmarine Imminent EditionUpdate 11.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/296-patch-notes-11-0PTS Update 12.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/339-pts-patch-notes-12-0>January Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/343-january-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBPreviously on the battle-barge: >>557713384
First for the fallen Brothas
I'm ready
>>558575146For Freddy?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIUGUQTs5WQ
>>558575258I've only seen Nightmare on Elm Street once and I was scared shitless to the point I don't recall the movie at all.
>>558575915They get a lot sillier as the series goes on.
>>558575258For you.
>>558573903Chiron deserved better, i actually can't believe GW killed my favorite nigga and replaced him with an old nigga.
>>558578823They could have done something with the fact that he was one of the Primaris put on ice during the Heresy, but that would require GW not to be dogshit
>>558578954I guess GW had absolutely no plans to involve the Word Bearers and Lorgar to cross paths with the Ultramarines anytime soon.
This week, Fencinggers get the rope
>Done with both weeklies>Launch the first normal daily>Modifier is one person takes all the damage>2 vatniks join my game>They just keep taking damage, not realizing that it's damaging me since they're still full hp>I tell them to stop and to leave me the medkits or else the mission will fail>They rush to steal the meds>One retard gets double venom cannon sniped>I die, except that I was on a ledge and they can't come back to rez me>I do not disconnect from the game, they deserve this to fucking fail>Redo it solo with bots and it's a fucking fast wrapI hate humans so fucking much, especially subhumans of the slavic phenotype.
>>558573603I'm a Heavy main. I love my heavy bolter. But hot damn was it's a pain in the ass to get to a point where you're not juggles by melee enemies and attain my flow state :>dakka my contested health away.
Was the heroic omnissiah axe fencing or balanced?
ping me when there's twitch drops
>>558584305Fencing.
>>558584430Said noöne fucking ever?
Should I do my weekly then? or wait till the update?
>>558591765why would you wait? are they increasing the reward?
>>558591765Pretty easy weekly so might as well, assuming you're looking for the triangles
When do you guys think the update will hit? European afternoon? Evening?
>>558594791It's usually around 10-11 AM EST.
>join the new weekly stratagem on normal>see a tactical and sniper standing on the platform right after the loadout droppod and before the drop you can't return from, you now the spot>just standing there>think they're just waiting for me since I'm a melee class so I drop down and check the relic spot>one of them shoots the barrels as I come back>look them, still standing there and looking at me>get kickedOk? Am I missing something? Is that some sort of grinding spot and moving from there ruined their plans?
A quick question for more lore-inclined Brothers, is it "Omnissiah" or "Omnissian" Axe? The name on the Battle pass still has the first name on it and I see it being used in the thread, yet Saber keep using the second one in their marketing info i.e. January community update.What gives?
>>558596376Maybe waiting for a friend without making a private lobby
>>558597485"omnissiah" is the entity (the admech thinks big e is the imnissiah, basically mecha-jesus)"omnissian" basically means christian in this comparison
>>558598080*omnissiah not imnissiahi love trying to explain something and making it more confusing instead
>>558597485kinda interchangeable, because omnissiah is a proper noun, omnissiah axe would mean its the "axe of the omnissiah", omnissian would mean its "of the omnissiah"
>>558597564Ah, so idiots.
>>558578954Seems like GW are moving away from all of that and pivoting to there just being space marines again, and about time.
>>558601268We're only partially getting the good stuff back though, now it's buying razorbacks and second hand or having to tolerate mishapen dreadnoughts, hovertanks, and space marines using heavy stubbers instead of bolters. Not to mention the smoothification of 90% of helmets and jump packs.
>>558598228Not to be confused with the coomnissiah, also known as Sleenash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUt0oU4SHpQWH40K SM2 DLC Voices: Voicewheel and Abilities
>>558604682I mean it's ok but considering all the tools at their disposal (and money), would it really kill the vatniks if they put in the extra work and added interactions?
>>558605057WH40K SM2 DLC Voices: Voicewheel and Abilities
>>558605154Sure sure, but we know there aren't any voicelines pertaining to interactions between Dudes. It's been mentioned on record by CMs. Hence my question.
>>558605310Russian culture is prison and the currency is rape. They don't do anything in good faith.
>>558605424And what if they got raped by the overwhelmingly negative wave of reviews?
PSA: Update is scheduled for 10 AM EST.
>>558604682>The space wolf at 7:24
>>558605310>we know there aren't any voicelines pertaining to interactions between DudesThat's why if they somehow don't shadowdrop those it's a no buy for me. If they went out of their way to make it a 'complete' voice pack DLC that would've been THE FIRST thing announced about it. As it stands they can blow me. Besides if you don't own it you won't be able to hear anyway so those who have it won't even get any bragging rights. It's a bigger waste of resources than further supporting PvP in this game, ffs...
>>558573603>Space Wolf voice pack awoos when you use the Jump PackI genuinely burst out laughing.
Just unlocked the wrapped relic sniper, holy fuck this thing is strong. Is there anything else that can match its potential dps?
>>558605774brainlet here, how many hours from this exact same moment?
>>558614067EST mean english standart time so for example 10 AM EST = 11 AM in germany
>>558613901>Is there anything else that can match its potential dps?Nah you're just cucked out of ammo and unless you're using an aimbot you're useless in Terminus and Extremis fights that aren't Zoanthropes/Neurothropes.
>>558614150>10 AM EST.Its 2am tonight for us in Sydney.
>>558614558Which is 13 hours and 15 mins
>>558614379tbf the entire chaos faction has absolutely fucked headshot thresholds so true
>>558614558No one cares about Sydney thoughbeit
>>558614929Even against Tyranids you're still cucked out of ammo especially against Warriors who will comically block their heads as they move forward, their headshit hitbox on the side and back is also wonky and only works half the time.
>>558615802if you have the block pen perk you retain the ammo per shot. I have absolutely no problem raping tyranid warriors of all variants, even carnifexes get melted by this thing.
>>558615802This is kinda obvious but it's a weapon with high skill ceiling. If you are fast, accurate, and knowledgeable, it will outperform most if not all other weapons.
>>558616373>with high skill ceilingYou mean vatniks with aimbots installed.Even CSGO pros can't keep tapping headshots without running out of ammo.
>>558616483Anything is possible with a steady hand, cease these unholy fluctuations.
>>558616841Stop defending stupid vatnik mechanics unless you're one yourself.
>>558618319"vatnik mechanics" being... pointing and clicking?
will you get banned for cussing someone out in voice chat in this game?
>>558620057lmao what happened?
>>558620057no, there's no report buttonat best the guy will just block you if he can find your usernameyou can type niggerfaggotkiketranny on pvp and nothing will happen to yousaber only comes down hard on cheaters in pvp, they don't give a shit about cheating in pve
>>558620204just some faggot complaining about something then he said he would let himself die to teach us a lesson. its impossible to vote kick someone in the middle of combat. i didnt have my mic plugged in but was just wondering
I was promised techmarine todaywhere is techmarine
Guess it's a race between SM2 and Darktide for which 40k game has their major update drop first.
>>558624930SM2 isn't getting anything particularly new is it? The patch after Techmarine is going to be the last big update/new mission we're going to get for the foreseeable future and evidently a "progression" update is coming packaged along with it.No idea what's for Darktide aside from presumably a Chaos Wastes style update with the Mourningstar's bridge getting another part added to it. Fatshark doesn't have a roadmap to physically share unlike SM2.
>>558626447None of the darktide players know. We're all guessing because the devs added some construction and that's it. There have been some interesting takes on it being so they don't have to be held up to possibly not meeting a set date. Someone said pvp was a day1 thing they were working on for VT2 and it came out maybe a or two year ago
>teammate starts crying when i dont immediately pick him up when i am the last one alive with no stims and there are 10 melee warriors, a lictor, 2 thropes, and a ravenerYour tears sustain me.
what difficulty do you people play?
>>558628218ruthless to level up my classes then absolute once I've got a build that feels comfortable.
>>558628218Absolute or hard stratagem.
>>558620842hahaha I've berated some seriously retarded console players, some with hotmics most the game, for their unprecedented levels of incompetence. hilarious hearing them complain about the underlevelled sniper only for me to pick them up 4 times each and outdamage them in both categories whilst they still complain that I'm taking ammo pickups. I've hurled plenty of slurs and not gotten so much as a notification about my behaviour so better than my cs2 or insurgency sandstorm record so far.
>>558628218It just feels wrong to not have triple extremis spawns now.
>>558629051Same, i get disappointed when its only one terminus spawn, even when playing my worst classes
Do I do my weeklies or wait till the update?
Alright. I patiently waited an entire month for this patchWhat time does it drop tomorrow?
>>558632937Morning, like before 8AM
>>558632937in like 9-10 hours
>>558632937Nobody knows
>>558632273strats reset after an update. the question is, do you have enough doritos or do you need double.
>>558632937Confirmed French morning time by Sister Hylia on Discord who's the public people person for Saber. So in the next 3-4 hours since updates often pop up between 10am-11am Britnong standard time for me.
2 hours 25 minutes left bros...
>>558604682I still can't believe they didn't give at least 2-3 banter lines for every other character.>450 lines advertised for the new heads (totalling 1350)>Too lazy to do 21 more per existing head which wouldn't have even reached half of the above
I bought the game to play with a controller but it's so much easier with m+kb, hoping we get a full melee class so I can shill and not take it seriously
>>558641292I'd be willing to pay for that pack had those been included. I'm kinda coping they will be but in their retarded russian fashion Saber just fail miserably at properly marketing their shit. Oh and let's not forget they already announced more voice pack coming (very likely without interactions too.The entire thing reeks of incompetence (no surprise there) because they are always raging about 'muh class identity' when it comes to how classes are supposed to look according to them. But the moment they can acknowledge that identity by putting in voice banter between characters they fold. Pitiful.
>>558642060The game isn't difficult on either input method if you're not dumb. I play on a PC with a gamepad and I've done Absolute and Hard Strats plenty of times.
>>558556306>>558574339I got around to downloading those 4K textures. Man they are fucking large, but the trade off even at 1440p is visible when you play dress up in the armory. Thankfully it doesn't affect the fps and the performance is smooth at 100-150 fps at ultra. One thing I'll say about their graphic design, shit is stellar.
>check what my triangle count is before the update>happy to see it is high enough, just needed to do the hard weekly to get above 900>figure I might as well take the opportunity to buy a 150 cosmetic while I can, since the normal will be completely free and I've got time to spare>only one left is the BT helmet>check it in the armoury>it's entirely locked>no recolours of any part, no pattern change>can't even use it to play Hospitalers betterIncredible
>>558642291textures only affect the size of the game and how much vram the game uses iirc>>558642190it's the first game I'm using a controller so there's that
>>558642535Shit should have been a paint for helmets like flames were for legs. Their incompetence knows no bounds.
>>558642535As a BT player, I am so fucking mad we do not have the pattern to just use as a helmet customisation and even worse did not get at least the one from the BT that dies in the tutorial mission.Instead they gave us crosses on the fucking kneecaps. Also where the fuck is my chest piece WITH NO MARKINGS ON IT!?
>>558642672It annoys me it can't be recolored because I much prefer the matte black option the Raven Guard default uses over the glossy/dirty option the helmet and the default Templar pattern uses.
need to get one more dataset from the campaign and I'm done playing it, can finally play online
Release the update already!
>>558643786ikr. I'm croozin for a snoozin over here
>>558643786Another 1 hour 4 minutes before the entire playerbase fights over Techmarine in lobbies
>>558643374you're going to play campaign again to farm lictor, sorcerer and terminator challenges
>>558644296If I don't get a spot on my first MM attempt I'm going solo as I had originally planned. What does it take to force the russian to greenlight no class restrictions?
I keep getting disconnected, idk why, maybe it's my firewall
Confirmed, 10am BST. So 39 minutes.
>>558644407nah, I'm only gonna do the easy ones, I finished the campaign ones, I'll do the operation ones later
Twitch streams to open in a new window, minimize, reduce to 140p, and lower volume to 1% for the incoming cosmetic drops. Pick any one.https://www.twitch.tv/hazemaniohttps://www.twitch.tv/maplewood_tvhttps://www.twitch.tv/streamerhousehttps://www.twitch.tv/daveeboy
>>558646438thanks
now that I'm done with the campaign I'll drop the graphics to low and play at 240 fps
UPDATE IS LIVEWE LIVE NIGGAS
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/356-patch-notes-12-0?page=1https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/356-patch-notes-12-0?page=1https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/356-patch-notes-12-0?page=1
To be quite honest, I'm glad the voice pack isn't included with the season pass.Big shout out to the devs for not forcing me to pay for a nigger space wolf.
>>558647785
is there a website with loadout tips? best ones for new players? I guess playing support classes like bulwark, tactical and techmarine are going to be the most useful
>>558647671Lemme get this straightThey REDUCED the damage of the precision servo gun? It better have been insanely hard buffed by the "correct scaling with difficulty" or it'll be the most baffling balance decision I've seen yet.Also for those wondering, they didn't just buff tarantulas. They were apparently getting double scaling from difficulty so likely their damage and health has just been halved. Will be interesting to see what they do when they explode for 10 times the base damage though.
Eh, why would you implement a feature like this and then not include a multi-class option for lobbies?
10.2gb patch
Drops. Nothing new.
>>558648025Funnily enough I want the voice pack but its not listed int he DLC tab on steam. The FOMO is already fading.
>>558647671>bolters being shit is intentional because they can get headshotsI will never understand this>>558648025It's for the DLC voices and they decided to add the base voices in so it looks better
>>558648025I hope that complaining now with Techmarine will be so loud and constant that they will finally be forced to relent and lift class restrictionsIt never made sense here anyway. It's a nothingburger in terms of balance and all marines are trained to use every weapon anyway. Straban can go Phobos and Decimus become Eliminator if need be
>>558648217Does that pristine aquila work on light armor or is it the same shit that already released
>>558647671What restorative stimms do
>>558648372The Restorative Stimms, a new PvE healing Equipment, has been added, encouraging aggressive playstyles. Upon use, it restores an initial small amount of health, then a large amount of Contested Health over a period of time.
>>558648372Better than normal stims. They give you 100% cHP for like ten seconds and it doesn't degrade when being hit.
lmao can you imagine how the marines sound in chinese?
>>558649121Just your run of the mill tau chatter.
>>558649221moreso the idea of a bunch of bug people running around in space marine costumes
>>558649252The rigid caste system would imply they're closer to Indians than the modern "everyone is equal but some are more equal" China
Figured I'd test it, and yep, the Vatniks did not prepare for this at all.>Be Techmarine>Join lobby>Techmarine taken>Join lobby>Techmarine taken>Join lobby>Techmarine taken>Join lobby>Techmarine taken
>>558649530Start your own lobby and then open it to the public tardo
>Can't have Deathwatch pauldron on Techmarinewww dot come on now
>>558649773>Figured I'd test itCongrats on not even reading the first sentence, and guess what, I tested that as well.>Be Techmarine>Open lobby>Start mission>Techmarine joins and quits>Techmarine joins and quits>Mission starts>Person wanting to play Techmarine joins and quits>Person wanting to play Techmarine joins and quits>Person wanting to play Techmarine joins and quits
yeah techmarine is a shit class and no one will be playing it soon
>Both reset weekly strats have friendly fireSolo bulwark with bots it is then.
>>558649954i really hope so, i hate playing with bots
Basic servo-gun even without perks is already way better than in the PTS, it's actually killing shit.
>>558649834why, isn't it standard gravis armor? Are you forced to have a mechanicus pauldron?
>>558649121no, i don't have to imagine. I already played campaign with german and japanese voices for shits and giggles.
>>558651031Yeah I guess, it's just not available as an option under the shoulder choices.
So the fastest way to level is NOT siege?
>>558651743Not anymoreUsed to be doing the first five rounds of hard siege were most time efficient now its back to inferno and the hive tyrant
>Techmarine cannot use ANY of the custom chapter armour piecesWtf?
What the fuck, team perks were never 500 gold goy points before, right?
>>558652003premium class i guess.or did they retroactively change other classes too?
>5 waves in hard siege only give 4 levelsaiee etc. etc.
Is reclamation faster to get through than inferno and decapitation?
Kek, either I'm hallucinating but I already had molecular bonding studs pauldrons unlocked but now with Techie's release it reset and I need to grind the motherfucker to P1 to unlock them again.
>>558651824anon please, we need to contain shitters now more than ever. let them have siege, noone plays it anyway.
>>558653067I was wondering the same thing, since I had everything unlocked before the patch.Also not a fan of this teleport to host bullshit. Just did a mission where the Chinese host as sniper just cloaked and bolted past everything constantly teleporting us mid fight to him. I understand not wanting to wait for dawdlers but I literally had no choice fighting 10 chaos marines and the whole fucking wave.
>>558653450its not my choice, saber has made the change
>>558653546>constantly teleporting us mid fight to himliterally whatare you saying that if you get paired with an idiot who attacks all enemies in sight you will get dragged into every fight?
>they made us buy the vanilla heads
>>558653642I am saying that its worse than that. A sniper will just cloak and then drag you and the other guy 500m forward and then you will get fucked in the arse when 3+ waves crash down upon you on the objective. I just did a lethal on the new mission and ONLY because I am not shitter did we not wipe everytime.
>>558653727>have 85k doritos>spend 400Don't see a problem there citizen. It is a bullshit move tho
Also the turrets are in the most useless places fuck me
>>558653794I do. who the fuck takes away things that people have had free access to for over a year? what will they put behind a paywall next time? block weapons? bulwarks intimidating aura? color red? they already tried to lock assaults wings behind prestige but had to walk that back. what the fuck saber
>>558654073>color red?No, Ushabti bonethat's where they make the real money
>>558654073>who the fuck takes away things that people have had free access to for over a year? You never had access to the heads and voices on other classes. What a facetious point.
>>558654073Well, like I said, I take issue with that even though I can afford it. This shows a gigantic disconnect from the players.>what will they put behind a paywall next time?Wait till you will have to grind 3rd currency to upgrade your paragon skills further and unlock flashy addons for your armor pieces. But not before you pay for the premium opportunity of said grind!
whats the max difficulty you can solo stuff with bots?
>>558654073>they already tried to lock assaults wings behind prestige but had to walk that back.That was such a blatant bug that the only way you could say this with confidence is either to intentionally spread shit, or you're just retarded.
>>558653794based whale Brother
>>558654296one level above you can consistently clear carrying other people
>jump pack dash can now cancel melee animationsHoly based they actually did it
>>558653067I thought it was just me. ffs, can gopniks do anything right? Just ONE update without a fuck up. Just ONE.. is it so much to ask?
I know people said this before but I have to say how fucking awful the omnissiah axe is.
Carcharodon and ravenguard champ aren't out yet?
>>558654731It’s hilarious if you compare it to a balanced power axe, that thing with auto gunstrike does disgusting damage.
>>558654731It's mediocre is what I can say about OA. It's not like they're going to release anything else outside of a greatsword when it comes to new melee weapons.
>>558648367We ain't getting the phobos variant Brother. Too much work required.
greatsword superarmor class WHEN
>>558654976It's just lazy how they stopped making chest pieces for every class when it came to DLC and new additions. After the Imperial Fists cosmetic pack, they just stopped bothering. Everything from Year 1 and that pack is class universal, everything after is class specific.Vanguard doesn't even get the Space Sharks chest despite being the most rip and tear mad fuck of the lot.
>>558655485Nobody does apparently.DLC's MIA.You can't even swap around the vanilla heads, even though you can buy them from the shop.Also techmarine doesn't get literally any armor pieces but helmets. All his shoulder, chest, and limb armor pieces are default. Ruskies shit up this release.
They still haven't fixed the end of mission invisible wall bug for the new mission. Just know that for now, if you play the new mission, you have a chance of getting softlocked against an invisible wall and get nothing out of it right at the end.>>558653727This is for buying the ability to swap voices and bare heads between classes. I'm quite enjoying my tactical with quartus's voice, though there are some bugs. The names of the lines on the voice wheel don't change based on voice, and sometimes your class character will speak on the vox instead of the voice character.
>>558656008>DLC's MIA.Reset your game.
>Taking away already unlocked cosmetics just to relock them behind new criteriaSTOP DOING THIS YOU INBRED NIGGERS
Yep, Raven Guard Champion by itself is cool, but it's also pretty good for scavenging parts.>Helmet>Crotch cloth>Right legThese are usable on any Chapter, and they look damn nice.
>>558656620Sorry, *left leg. You know what I meant.
>>558656620Hate those ridges on the helmet but I'll reuse all the other parts, the cape for the sniper in particular.
guess its time to solo spam operations, going to be boring as shit!i wish horde mode gave more xp desu, i vastly prefer it to operations.
>>558656094It's still all locked up for me.
Oooooh yeah I'm thinking the new map is kino
>>558657269Just became available. Consolecuck shit I guess.
>>558656620Yeah it looks pretty great.Now I just gotta get my molecular bonding studs back.
>>558657602yes they fucking cooked with this one. Love the environment design.
>>558657602Haven't even tried the last one. How is the new one good? Does it have many pit stops with objectives or it's pretty much straightforward like Decapitation?
Bulwark who couldn’t keep his HP up and used like 4 stims raged out at me for picking up the relic he wanted so I sniped his executes for the rest of the game. This was normal strat btw so the stakes were not high.
I like the new HBR.
>>558658863Based
>>558659030did they buff it or something?
>>558659030The new knife is also somewhat interesting too. Rare case of high rate of good heroic additions.
So they lied about giving Techy more customization options. When it was brought up during PTS they said more are going to be available after 12.0 goes live. What a shock...
>>558659309I think he's talking about the new relic one that adds a grenade launcher.
>>558659576ah ok>>558659541wouldn't be surprised if more get added when we get the iron hands chapter pack
>>558654570Holy shit it fucking does. Hidden change that was never mentioned.Assault is now Bulwark tier when he's using the dash build, he just shits Wings of Flame AOE damage back to back and can't be punished while on the offensive. Assault is now S-tier, this isn't a joke.
So far it feels like every melee weapon suck dick on Techmarine. He has almost no melee steroids and feels like he is swinging a foam pool noodle.At this point I am going to run knife on him and I almost never use the knife. Ranged is not much better. HBR heroic is decent but its still a bolter weapon so it tickles most things, plasma sucks on Techmarine due to ammo issues. The rest are just more bolter shit that all need an ammo customisation option so we can take kraken/vengeance/hellfire/dragonfire rounds.If they wont give us ammo upgrades then they need to give a 100% bolter round damage increase across the board. They are fucking armour penetrating by default. The specific anti Tyranid round exists to combat their healing and durability by pumping acid into them after the fact.We get a fucking Techmarine class and he doesn't bring gifts from Mars as an excuse to add these? Or the legendarily logistical masters can't scrounge some up? Is that not literally the main trait and power of the Ultramarines?
>lvl 1 techmarines joining hard stratagemsI said many times they should have level locked them instead of making them not give exp.
>>558659903Explain to me how to play assault if you would. Please, speak as you might to a young child. Or a golden retriever.
>>558660121WHO'S A GOOD BOI? THE GOODEST OF BOIS? C'MERE ANON
>>558659903I'm still going to run stomp build
>>558660019they should have added the grav pistol as a weapon only for techmarine.also techmarine being able to use rifles feels super fucking weird.
>>558660121Well, despite all the changes to Assault that have made him insanely powerful, he's still hungry for levels to get anywhere functional. All of his best, most defining perks are in the bottom row, and at this point, he probably has some of the strongest prestige perks in the game. Like he is stacked for prestige perks. Then there's also the fact that his two best weapons are both Heroic variants, those being the Shock Hammer and the Parry Fist.>Build 1Squad Cohesion (Finally decent at 15% recharge rate)Smiting AngelZealous BlowDiligence/Pride in DutyShock HammerShit ground pounds on clusters of enemies and keep doing it over and over. Shock Hammer litters the ground with lightning AOEs for more crowd control.>Build 2Proven EfficiencyStrong StrikeWings of FlameAerial GraceCommitmentParry FistDon't even bother touching the parry button. You perfect dodge, dodge and dodge again. Dealing AOE damage with every evade and shitting on enemies with nuclear gunstrikers.
WHY THE FUCK DID THOSE DUMB ZIGGERS ADD THE CLOTH TO DARK ANGELS CHAMPION CHESTSHIT ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED HOW MY DA DEATHWATCH BULWARK LOOKSNIGGA LOOKS LIKE HE'S RUNNING IN FUCKING PAJAMAS
>xenophase sword deals less damage than the other balanced swordsI know the selling point is the power rake radius but come on.
>>558661070Its nice they let us use heroic weapon skins on any other weapon.
What’s the correct red for a tech boy?
>>558660660I had worked out your first build on my own which is good.The second one I will be messing about with. I really like the chainsword and am glad there is a build I can use it.Cheers.
Great.I can't download the RG champ.
>>558661298I like Khorne red.Closest to pic related and I think it works with the black better since its subdued.
>>558661298Mephiston
>>558661235I'm 50/50 on this. On one hand it's nice to have more customization on the other hand since people in SM2 rarely ever talk especially on PC I liked being able to tell if the people with me were using an heroic or not just so I could have the information.If only you could see more than just other players' level 5 team perk when pressing TAB but I guess we can't ask too much of saber.
>5 missions as Techmarine>Only the first one had other players>Been solo ever sinceYeah...awesome.
>>558661783just wait a week
>>558661753My perspective is I like the look of some of them but I hate a lot of their bonuses and changes to gameplay. My Bulwark, which is a Blehd Rehven Veteran can now use the power sword I would like him to use visually.Sure the heroic version is good, but spamming rakes get old real fast.
>>558661412The dodge build never truly came online until today with the new patch. They gave it the new perk with Strong Strike which allows you to go +1 on your ability charge when combines with Commitment, and they now allow Assault to animation cancel using his jump dash. Both of these combined solved the two biggest flaws of the build, which was its all-or-nothing energy consumption that screwed you if you whiffed even once, and its inflexibility when attacking.
>regen stims don't heal woundsWhat's the fucking point?
>>558660019I just use power sword as a way to deal with minoris hordes and easy parry everything else
>>558661663>>558661679Damn both look super bright, i’m liking baal red right now.
Are Black Templar techmarines black or red?
>>558661895Not to mention you can get 50% reduced ranged damage now. Really helps with the class feeling a bit squishy, although you do need to give up no stagger after a party or dodge. But with 15 second up time on no stagger after jump back use I think it’ll be fine.
Well that was exciting, but I'm never doing that again. The highlight was the game spawning a Carnifex after the lift before the finale, and then spawning 3 biovores just afterwards because why not.Fuck botsFuck the Omnissian axeLove me turretsLove me precision gun
>>558660019What are you even talking about, retard. Techmarine has 3 direct melee damage boosts and 2 general damage boosts that can be used at the same time. He literally has more melee damage boosts than assault. Do you just spout retarded bullshit without even reading the class' abilities?
>>558662745I’ve made my raven guard tech boy black with a red beak, power pack, and right pauldron, with some addition red accents and I like it. Still looks the part but fits the chapter better, try something similar and see how you like it
>>558662745Whatever the hell they want. Black Templars don't follow visual rules at all beyond base black, their shoulder trim and Chapter icon.
>>558662745Only Iron Hands techmarines tend to be any colour other than red
>>558662895>>558662745Even then you can always make up your own rules and claim its part of your own OC crusade. BT are extremely modulable.
Chaos armor parts in PvE when?
>>558661529Thank God somebody else is experiencing the same thing as I am literally the only reason I wanted to play todayI'm also not able to use my molecular bonding stud shoulders on any class
>>558660019tech marine has the highest achievable % meleedamage of any class
>>558660019Techmarine literally has the strongest parry punish with Balanced Axe + Servo-Strike because it doesn't nullify the bonus damage on the immediate Overhead Strike follow-up.
>>558647671Fucking samoan crap on the charcarodon as if these dudes enjoy surfing and modifying deadnaught caskets into tan beds in their fortress monastery when patrolling GHOUL STARS.
>>558664646>as if these dudes enjoy surfing and modifying deadnaught caskets into tan beds Don't they?
leveling the omnissian axe reminds me how much balance fucking sucks, its moveset is tolerable, but it has zero quick aoe, which means you need those parries
>>558664814The holy surfing pools are for venerable dreadnaught ONLY
>>558664646Let's add heavy can't use their chestplate either. But it's something that's been already brought up today >>558655485 >>558656008I'm starting to believe the theory of a skeleton crew being left for SM2 while the rest fucked off to work on SM3.
>>558665439I mean no shit. It's not a full live-service game like HD2 or DT.
>>558665439>I'm starting to believe the theory of a skeleton crew being left for SM2 while the rest fucked off to work on SM3.I wouldn't be shocked if the only reason we're getting new classes is because these are SM3 assets being backported.
So Patch 13 is march right? I mean they did say it's all hands on deck so we should be looking at the end of next month for 13.0 release.
>>558665865Has to be March if it's gonna still be Q1.
>new med stims only give a tiny amount of actual hp, with 95% being temp health>if you attack while the temp health is active it drops to 0 and starts ticking back up>cant clear wounds, since the real hp regen stops after 5%???????
>>558662745all techmarines are red with the exception of Iron Hands whose iron fathers are black. ( but they still have red techmarines aswell)
>>558665439Its kind of obvious they were sitting on Techmarine for months now because it predates them unfucking the champion skins. That is probably why the body armour option are so sparse. Imagine how much worse it would be when we get IH chapter pack and you couldn't use any of them on the Techmarine (because we all know the IH champion is going to be vanguard or sniper...)
>>558665865>So Patch 13 is march right?Big doubt, Brother. Also:>progression updateWhat the fuck is that supposed to be?
>>558664259A while back they said never ever for any reason because fuck you
>Just had a game with a vanguard using the space wolf voicepack>Still hear Decimus KFC eatin', koolaid slurpin, watermelon munchin, air jordans stealin, lips smackin voice during mission interactionsWow, literally zero reason to buy that pack then.
My level 5 Techmarine is being kicked from fucking ruthless quick que lobbies...
>>558666735You need to own the pack to hear the new voicelines. Better pay up comrade!
>>558666819I heard the voicelines just fine "for the allfather" etc etc. It's just that when interacting with the dreadnought or balthazar it was still Decimus talking.
>>558666569>and you couldn't use any of them on the Techmarine (because we all know the IH champion is going to be vanguard or sniper...)It's confirmed Tactical via datamines lmao.
>>558667051Just as fucking bad.
>>558667051i still think its Datamine bait, surely the devs cant be tone deaf enough to not give the iron hands champion to techmarine, surely?
Found a bug.>If someone kicks you or drops the group you end up unable to que up for pub groups.>You have to relog via going to the title screen to reset
>>558666569>because we all know the IH champion is going to be vanguard or sniper..Yeah, about that....
>>558667221>foundheh.
>>558665865>Patch 12.0 and 13.0 were supposed to be in Q1>we're nearing end of Q1 and we've only just finished PTS and got barely finished 12.0>we could get another PTS in 2 weeks only to get a half-baked patch where proverbial wires are hanging everywhere and they need to be hotfixed by 5 subsequent patchesI dread at the thought, truly.
So whats the go to assault build now? Is ground pound spam still the best build?
>>558667213>the devs cant be tone deaf enough to not give the iron hands champion to techmarine, surely?*laughs in salamanders sniper champion skin*
Techmarine is mid>guns are shit save for the heroic HBR and Plasma Incinerator>Omnissian Axe is mid, power axe is the go-to melee weapon>no ammo regen>no armour regen>no contested health regen>Tarantula turrets fall off hard after Ruthless
>>558667745Ground pound spam and the dodge build are both excellent and both specialize in two different areas so, unlike every other class, it's pure preference and not a case of one being blatantly better than the other.>Ground pound spam is for nuking Minoris and being perpetually safe in the air by abusing the i-frames of launch, Unyielding Oath, and the landing>Wings of Flame dodge build is for mogging Majoris enemies and making Bulwark look like a chump against melee-focused bosses because you just melt them with back to back dodge damage
>>558668421He has a dedicated extremis deletion button, that's good enough for me
>>558664484The RG champ shit seems to be some genuine fuckery, but the bonding stud shoulder lock should be from techmarine adding to the "every class must be prestige 1 or higher" stipulation for it. Apparently you just need to prestige tech once, and you'll reunlock it.It's still bullshit. You should get to keep it if you earned it before TM.
>>558661529Try this Brother, maybe this will help: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/games/restore-licences-playstation/>>558668914Yeah, the bonding studs pauldrons debacle is such a bullshit that only Saber are capable of pulling off. And there's no fix in sight for the time being, it seems.
Even Reddit is miffed about the voice DLC. They're tearing it to shreds.
Which perks to take with the Techmarine?Which prestige perks to take with the Techmarine?Which route should I take with the Omnissian Axe?
>muh 100% pure voice actor no ai>also we didn't bother adding in mission dialogue so your character will just randomly talk like somebody elseI've seen modders put more effort in for free than these useless russian dogs.
>>558669974it's been five hours, anon. anyone who replies to your post with actual recommendations is going to be retarded or off dunning kruger charts
>no ammo>no damage>no survivability >turrets gutted>bugs not fixed from the ptsyep
>>558669974>perksPrecision targeting for autogun, Majoris and above targeting, autogun refresh on majoris kill/execution state
I'm a level 1 Techmarine with relic weapons who lucked out on not getting kicked in Absolute Decap and my teammates are dogshit and keep dying, I only died once thanks to the bomb room Biovore spamAlso the grenade launcher is back
>>558670906ok but when is assault getting a primary?
>>558671056>Modern Assault>Needing a primaryHe actually doesn't need more after this patch. He rivals Bulwark.
Saber needs to stop making games nobody gives a damn about like Toxic Commando and fund an actual content and support team for SM2, because it's blatant this game is on the backburner now.
>>558671465>because it's blatant this game is on the backburner now.you have no idea how shitty support for this game was for the first half a year after the release.
Is there a new weekly replacing the Ballistic Engine one we got on Tuesday?
>>558671784I do, because I've been here day one. Shit's gotten worse with the start of Y2.
>>558668421I'm changing my mind on him now that I've got a few perks going
>>558669974Literally nothing has changed since the PTS.Hes still complete shit and the only viable build (thats still worse than every other class in the game) is plasma and fire dot. All of his perks are bad. All of them.
>>558671784you have no idea how shitty support for this game wasEhhh, the same as now? It was always shit Bro.
Wait there is a new mission too? how is it?
>>558672057Valtus comes back
>>558672020Sounds like you're the one who's bad
>more than one year after the game released>still need to exit to title to fix not being queued into pubs
>>558670323>Wanted to put the BA head and voice on my BA Vanguard Incursor to complete the helmetless look>Anon says something like this.Fuck I might as well keep Decimus's voice then. How the fuck did they fuck this up this bad?As an aside, does anyone play PvP enough to check if you can put the other heretic voices on other classes now? Asking to make my Tac into an Iron Warrior or Death Guard.
>>558672216Sounds like you're the stupid fucking nigger
Was there another weekly reset after the update?
>>558672383Loading into the pvp launch bay and back into operations works, too (also less loading screens)
>>558671986This can't be absolute can it?
>>558672383desu with the new teleport "feature" getting permament host privileges is more useful than ever.
>>558672715Servo-Gun damage scales with difficulty. The problem was it didn't in the PTS.
>>558671986I see your argonian gooning friend in the bottom right.
>>558672983mfw I've managed to get married and divorced since skyrim was released and people are still playing it.
>>558672983I literally can't remember where I know him from kek
Wasn't the techmarine homie supposed to have tarantula sentries???
>>558673509Those spawn around the map, you don't carry charges with you.
>>558673509They spawn at various points during the operation and you turn them on
Techmarines shouldn't run out of ammo like the Heavy
>>558673947But Heavies shouldn't run out of ammo like the techmarine
>>558669363It did. Thank you, brother.
>>558673664>>558673705fukking gay
>>558674347gay franchise.
Update taking forever for someone else too?
>>558675519For 10 gigs it only took me like 7 minutes
>and a 20% XP boost, available with no condition, to help you level up your Techmarine class!> 20% XP boost>20%
Why do they let me join missions where my class is taken when I quickplay?
>>558676486because servers are breaking down from everyone trying to level up techmarine
>>558676651Alright, guess I will just farm inferno with bots for today
>spore mines spawn sporadically>4 fucking biovores spawn as wellI wonder how long it will take them to realize the spore mines are never fun to fight
>>558670323For how much this DLC was praised you'd think they would at the very least include mission lines. Hilarious, really. I could run those voices through an AI script and fill out those missing lines in day or two.
Telorian and Straban is the purest form of autism to autism communication
>>558676956[X] add spore mines[X] increase the number of spore mines spawned[X] add waves that consist of 50-100% spore mines[X] add an extremis enemy that spawns spore minesif Dmitry Grigorenko, Game Director had more time we would end up with a spore-mine themed reoccurring terminus enemy, a spore-mine objective section, and a spore-mine boss run mission.
>>558672604Yes and the two weekly stratagems have the friendly fire modifier. Combine it with the fact that lvl 1 tech marines are joining them. I hope you are able to solo them with bots :^)
When are they going to let us customize our bots?
>>558677638They already did. Of course, it's nothing more than "We made it to where the bot copies whatever the first slot of your armor/color customization is" because Saber is retarded
techmarine is kinda shit and turret management is retarded, you don't even have a UI element that indicated when it's expiring.Plus their positioning is often dogshit as well, they should've been a call-in.
How's the new mission? So far I've heard about a 50/50 split on techmarine, the chapter heads/voices is a shitty product, and that Assault is based. I got like seven hours left before I can play and the only thing keeping me sane in the wage cage is following the details trickling through.
>>558678650New map is cool and has some good environment design.has a defense scene with rogal dorn tanks and marines + helldrake and redemptor dreadnought + giant ass cathedral.Impossible to know this early on how good techmarine will be but the static turret placements by saber are abysmal. Good luck in the wage cage anon, i fear i will soon have to end the neet life and return to it.
Whomst could've predicted this?
>>558678905This really grinds my gears Brother.
>>558678905the funniest thing is they are saying the same thing about you.
It's kinda funny to me that as far as perks are concerned it seems the top row is the only good ones for the techie, as well as the level 25 signature perk to set things on fire with the servo gun
It is only me or you can't color the Techmarine bionic arm and so the small elbow armor part remain blue ?
>>558674453https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uycY_R0D2II
What is the correct red for a techmarine?
>>558678650Initial impressions says the mission is decent and Techmarine is more or less "Class is alright yet nobody would notice if you never touch it", but due to being an alchie, I've got too much alcohol in me to competently argue if he's genuinely useful or not. Don't think the tarantula turrets spawn in siege, which more or less makes him an extremely shitty hybrid of Vanguard and Tactical in it thoughbeit.
See Brothers? They learned from the harsh criticism. Next time we'll get even more content!
>>558678905> he is not solo with bots maxxingyour not gonna make it out here boyo.
All I could think of when activating the sentry guns today was this
>game crashed on Hive Tyrant>No exp at all gained on TechmarineAAAAAAAAAAAso that's how they will stop from grinding Decapitation, it just fucking crashes.
>>558680137> tarantula turrets dont spawn in siegewtf really? devs really do hate horde mode for some reason, brought it out then dropped it like a sack of shit.
>>558681439nta but they said "tarantuals will come later for siege" whatever that means.
>>558680157I'd have rather the voice pack have been a little overpriced but be completely comprehensive, instead of $5 and a complete waste of money. They dropped the ball hard on that thing.
>>558681439I haven't fully tested it, but I went through 10ish waves with a random that was a techmarine and didn't see them activate one
>>558681273somehow got points for killing 50 extermis as Techmarine on my first game as him tho
>>558672389>As an aside, does anyone play PvP enough to check if you can put the other heretic voices on other classes now? Asking to make my Tac into an Iron Warrior or Death Guard.Unfortunately there is no option for this at all, even for loyalists
>>558681627Definitely bugged, I also got it way too quickly.They didn't add ordeals for completing the new operation, by the way.
>ANOTHER knifethis one looks good tho, opinions on it so far?
>>558682920>he doesn't know
>techmarine doesnt have voicelines for most of the old mission objectives, so instead it plays a voiceline from one of the other classes even if they're miles away. Like when you inspect a dead body on inferno for the access codes>seemingly has no voicelines at all for anything except the new missionEpic
>>558683280yeah, maybe they should make more voicelines for him and not that dlc
>>558682920Most deadly defensive parry stick of them all. Bit less safe than regular fencing, but a lot more effective. Tactical with parry auspex can kill most majoris in a parry, a gun strike, and a little extra swipe or two. Trolls the shit out of melee terminators.Definitely has a place. If all you want is a weapon that will block melee attacks between shooting your ranged weapon, there's probably nothing as time-efficient in the game.
>>558683491Remember: they prioritized gamplay over cosmetic/visual aspects.
>>558684173Might try it with my Exacting Focus SMG Sniper
Lollmaoroflmao even
>>558683491see >>558680157
https://streamable.com/s4mcqs
>>558684346topkek.now post how they justify taking away the heads
>>558684346Are these niggers for real? Talk about ESL-levels of misunderstanding UI tooltips.....
>>558684375>>558680157I honestly dont care that much about the techmarine having limited cosmetics, it's the voice lines and stuff (or lack thereof) that affects my enjoyment the most. Having him only speak in a single mission is just ridiculous
>>558684346>not a bug>intentional>just the devs going "haha gotcha!"these devs are the gift that keep on givingI've been able to share stories from a few other games about devs making specific incompetent decisions but this is so much more consistent and thorough than those
Parries against whip warriors are regularly failing to register contact with the omnissian axe.
>>558684346
>>558684809Yeah I'm not sure if it's me (haven't played in a month) or it's bugged, even the fencing techmarine axe is not parrying attacks properly.
>>558684809this has been a bug since the game came out
>>558685015just fucking learn the game.
>>558685015It's a lot more common with the omnissian axe than any other weapon from my experience.
Now that the update has been out for a very long period of time, what do WE think of the new heroics?
>>558660121I assume it wasn't brains that got you here.
>>558685654GoodHBR is fun and lets you feel like you have a lot of tools to play with, perfect for missions where you don't need optimal loadouts.Knife is a funny haha parry stick, I probably still think that gladius > block > riposte for personal preference but I also am the sort of player that likes offensive melee attacking with knife over most other melee weapons.New axe has fine stats and no glaring flaws, that means it has everything it needs to let players start at effectively legendary tier for leveling.
is the training arena in already?
balance is still shit and nothing will ever make it good.
>>558686530It's been postponed to Q4.
>marksman carbine buffed again
yfw the dreadnaught section on the bridge in the new operation
>>558665865They must be behind their schedule for sure. It's really baffling because with SM3 coming out around 2028-2029 if they want to keep up the interest in SM2 they gotta churn out more content than a few crummy armor pieces (Carcharodons) and an incomplete voice pack which in its current state btw should've been a part of year 2 season pass.
>>558690083not sure if trolling, as far as i can see from >>558684489 they reused the animation from the campaign except this time the dialogue is less memorable. would you stand up and clap if they put the helbrute talk to the hand scene in an operation too?
>>558691312>would you stand up and clap if they put the helbrute talk to the hand scene in an operation too?yes
I'm so glad I didnt buy that voice pack, holy shit what a scam
Does Spore Mines count as ranged or melee attack ?
>if we made mission specific dialogue the voice pack would be $20?????????????????????????What the fuck are these devs smoking, wasn't the Witcher 3 DLCs 20?
>need to make some gay account to get the dropsso annoying
>>558692198omega kek, fucken krokodil smoking devs
I had intention of buying those new voices.I am attached to Talasa and Veridian after 800 hours.
>>558686674https://areboltweaponsgoodyet.github.io/
>>558692490They're saying that like something being overpriced but fully functional is somehow worse than something being cheap and shit.Don't even make it a pack if that's a problem. Sell each voice for $7-$8 each.
game has a lot of dialog in the campaign, retards, stop being children
>>558692593Meant to write "no intention" lel
>>558692490lolololo, they're just quadrupling down now aren't they? this shit is gold>>558692720then they shouldn't have come up with a bright idea of making that voice pack to begin with. it's a waste of time and resources and it's so half-assed I can't imagine someone looking over the prepared voice lines and greenlight it. it probably went something along the lines: 'da, no operation dialog, dis is goot, rekord komrade!'
>killing minoris with techie's servogun counts as extremis kills for the ordeals (at least on xbox)does techie have any perks that this can abuse or would you need to rush to prestige for it, i wanted to go in blind so i know fuckall
>>558692198>>558692490The only way out of this imho would be to either:>fully refund everyone who bought it and take down the pack entirely and face the well deserved shaming and flamingor>clench their soviet buttholes and get those VAs to record everything that people rightfully expected and politely update the pack to the full product it should've beenWith the latter at least it would cool their heads before they'd release such crap DLC again.
>>558692490I could see they announced it, saw that most of the playerbase didn't really care and then half-ass it. But damn they should probably pull her off the internet for a while or fire her because she's just making them look like lazy clowns
>Soloing Inferno as techy>Start experimenting with omnissian axes>Go on a horrendous losing streak>Go back to the heroic fencing axe>Immediately winI see, rookie mistake
>>558694050Or they could take all the money people have already spent on it and add it to their profit margins, release another half-baked one to check how many will still buy a second, and see if it's profitable to make more after that. If yes, great for them, if no they've already gotten a ton of money for it. Something like half the players I played with today were toting the DLC voices, and while there's no telling how selection bias and random chance may have affected that I'm willing to bet a good portion of their players have bought already.
>>558653067I just noticed this myself lmao. First thing I thought when I logged in was "why the hell is my pauldron naked?"
>>558692490lmaooooo why would anyone buy these shitty voice packs then?fuck it, i hope every voice actor gets replaced by AI at this point.
just fucking let ME start a game as the host so I can fucking play the class I want with other people and not botsfucking saber
>>558695592Yeah, and it's intentional if you can believe this. Whata day!These people, that company, their politics is absolutely wild and unhinged. It's been a while since I've witnessed such a blow up.
>>558696028bruh are these devs retarded. What am i saying ofcourse they are.they are giving the IH champion to FUCKING TACTICAL instead of tech marine.
So why the techmarine's team perks cost 500 requisition?
>>558696353padding player time so the devs can look good to corpo overlords no doubt.
>>558696353They fucked up and added an extra 0. Team perks cost 50 on everybody else.
>>558696353Pretty sure most people that still play the game are at req cap and it's their plan to pad current playtime since this year has a lot less planned content than last.
Well that seals it for future voice packs then
yeah nice xp boost you fucking niggers
>>558697552They've acknowledged the multi-angle shitstorm from every group that discusses this game, nobody is happy about the pack. I don't see the second one releasing in the same state unless they're even more retarded than we already know they are. The second pack with the Raven Guard in it is likely delayed big style to get the voiceover to a more complete state.
>>558697990yeah, that's what I meantthis clearly doesn't workIt's mostly negative already, it's over for voice packs
new balanced power fist can one shot majoris with the 9x charged attack. you need at least the knowledge of the enemy perk or the charged attack perk. weapon perks: +15% melee damage and +10% damage to majorisassault perks:25% heavy + 15% majoris works15% majoris works
that's a lot of xpIF ONLY I COULD PLAY AS A CLASS THAT ISN'T MAX LEVELSABER YOU FUCKING RETARDS
>>558697990Shame they wasted these three chapters in this failed experiment. Even if they do future ones correctly I doubt they'll go back and fix these.
Crimson Fist bros, in regards to your shoulders, are you a blue trim, silver trim (matching aquila), or red trim individual?
>>558681627>>558682045they are bugged i finished the ordeals just being in a game with a techmarine lol
>>558699673Keeping it classic with the blue trim and silver aquila
Ironic that the Techmarine update seems to be held together by scotch tape and gluesticks
>>558699673Silver for me. Helps break up the blue without being too flashy.
>>558700561Pure soul right there.
>>558699190they made the space wolf one a we wuz kangs, so nothing of value was lost desu
balanced feels rightfully strong now. its still really risky, some animation are impossible to block the the gaunt quick attacks, but at least for assault you can always ground pound out of bad situations.
>>558701107Only his character model is black, he doesn't have a black voice actor like decimus.So you can make your space wolf actually sound like a space wolf, just wear a helmet.
>>558665865Man, Patch 14 and 15 look like absolute content void. Pretty sure all 12 PvP players will enjoy the new arena and judging by abysmal voice pack they released it ain't looking very bright.And where the hell is the testing arena that was in battle-barge expansion, huh Saber? Sucked into the Eye of Terror?
Why are multiple people even allowed to select the same class in the battle barge if you can't actually start a mission that way?
>>558702227It's the fault of content creators like Valrak, those fucking retards cant stop bitching and moaning about wanting PvP content, only to play it for a few days then take a break to shit out their usual slop videos about something different
>>558702227I remember reading that they officially delayed it a while back but then never said to when so it may as well have been.
>>558701354i dont play space wolves, i just found it funny how they made the most european chapter a black.Im an iron hand chud
>>558702540Because Russians are fucking retarded
The new mission has no ammo boxes or crates in the early area, what a bunch of vatnik morons.
I was looking forward to the RG champion pack but now I have two problems: the cape is too short for the sniper (I guess it's mounted lower on the assault champion since it reaches the right height for a cape on him) and we can't change the color on metalic parts of the left pauldron which are bright gold meaning they will clash with the rest of the armor which tends to use darker metallic colors for such elements.
I like the new axe and all but does it really have only four moves?the charge, the spin, the light attack, and the explosion?
>>558705540Why would you be out of ammo that quickly?
>played the demo for John Carpenter's Toxic Commando Demo>All minor enemies die in 1 headshot or 2 body shots (thereabouts) >Major enemies have multiple weak points, but even without aiming at those specifically go down pretty easily, but the flip side is that if any of them hit you say goodbye to 50-100% of your HP and enjoy being downed >Hordes spawn continuously, far more than players can handle in most cases if they don't pad out their tools correctly (i.e. your primary can only deal with X amount zombies a second but X+4 are always spawning, to maintain control you'll have to use special weapons and static elements like mortars to keep it under control)>Even on Normal difficulty people are struggling/failing missions regularly (which is fine because you make progression based on how far you get not on completion) >Its fun, guns feel great, enemies feel threatening and not like sponges, specials are dangerous as fuck but not HP sponges and boss fights are intense >Ammo isn't a problem because there are plenty of restore points and map spawns, you're more likely to die due to skill than logistics as long as you don't hold down M1 24/7 So Saber CAN fucking learn their fucking lesson. They just refuse to apply any of these principles to SM2.
>>558706261Against what Saber has said publicly they simply do not give a shit about SM2 and it has a barebones team working on it.
I cannot use any cosmetic piece of wargear except for the helmets on techmarine. This is surprisingly disappointing.
the chaos techmarine in case everyone forgot about that
>>558707639looks better than the shitmaris one.
>>558708032That applies to most of the classes and weapons.
Noooooooooo
>>558702540So you can check your guys ?
>>558707639Such a sunk cost fallacy them adding anything to PvP.
>>558709114pvp was such a massive waste of development
>>558699673I'm a big fan of the red trim, it's the Optimus prime color scheme. Also I'm mad that the patch stole my studded pauldron.
>>558667226>lamentersWait, really? Are they pulling my leg?
>space marine 2 matchmaking right now is just people constantly joining and then immediately leaving when they see techmarine is takenUnplayable.No new class for years. They knew everyone would want to play the new class and they take literally zero precautions towards the problems this would cause for matchmaking.And it's going to be this way for months if they don't remove class restrictions.
>>558711838Pretty matchmaking fit you into a class-accessible lobbyPersonally, it's me trying to do the hard strat, seeing a lvl4 mechboy, and leaving
I realized you cannot solo Absolute anymore since the game will spawn a Terminus even in Decapitation...and everyone is playing Techmarine solo.Fuck these Russianiggers man.
>>558712748Didn't they add that hard strats no longer give exp?
>>558712748>Pretty matchmaking fit you into a class-accessible lobbyNo, it's constantly putting people into matches where their class(techmarine) is already taken.
>>558676956is there actually a good way to fight biovores as bulwark without instantaneously losing all of your health
>>558702627i think valrak basically said he hopes space marine 3 has bigger pvp battles and focus and i agree desu, space marine 2 pvp has been meh.>>558702227yep future of SM2 looks pretty grim. I WISH they put more effort into the horde mode, with a leaderboard and its own progression system desu.
>>558697903>>558699139There's an XP boost?
>>558714104The pvp in this game is actually great, it's pure casual fine and it's fine, the problem are the mega unbalanced lobbies, I've been in lobbies were I was like 15-3 and couldn't carry my team because everyone was getting raped, not sure if it was because the other was a stacked premade team against randoms or what, but it happened dozens of times until I gave up trying.
>>558712748Do it with bots, it's just not worth the mental strain. Yes it's slower and the hierophant at the end can be a bit of a pain since the bots do fuck all for objectives but it beats low level techshitters joining your run.>>558712813They did, didn't stop unleveled retards from joining all of my hard strats today. Unless you make it prestige + level locked it doesn't change anything, retards are gonna retard.>>558713930Get close to them so they unanchor then take a little bit of distance so they start attacking you with pounces and melee attacks, from there it's parry + gunstrike to win with a shield bash every 10 seconds just for good measure.
Well, now I can grind away those pesky armor sets in piece (i.e. solo minimal speedruns). Thanks for the ride Saber.
The techmarine is just a bad tactical, what is even the point of this class?
>>558714412>piecelol, it was supposed to be "peace". I really need to hit the sack.
Dumb question, but if I buy a heroic version of a weapon, can I use it while leveling said weapon class or is it locked until I max out the weapon class first?
>>558714493Running to any turret you find even if they are in useless spots like a team fortress 2 redditor.>>558714573You can use the heroic straight away, it will give weapon mastery exp too.
>>558714573yes, you can use it to lvl master. It's the way to do it
>>558714573Its use is not locked by level, you can use it to level the weapon.
>>558714573>can I use it while leveling said weapon classyes, you can, you just don't get perks until you get enough experience. i postponed grinding bolt sniper rifle for this exact reason.
>>558714573I think you can use it right away, you will have to grind out the levels for the perks.
>>558662526Have you tried not dying?
>>558714493nukes bosses & extremis just by pressing Qimo a lot more survivability then tac, despite having no reliable hyperarmor, simply because of the gunstrikeshe is a gimmicky melee tactical imo
>>558714783It's not "that" bad, even without perks as long as you land your headshots it shit outs enough damage to incapacitate or sometimes even one shot majoris up to ruthless.
>>558714493I don't know.
>>558667226They should do an unknown founding chapter pack.
>>558714943I'm sorry, I meant I postponed grinding bolt sniper rifle *until* the heroic version was released. Yes, it's been a cakewalk, i'm half way p3 and maxed out already.
>>558701107I swear the black templar one sounds like he's trying not to wake someone up. The whole pack is just fucked lmao.
>>558714408I get close to them but they REFUSE to unanchor and keep spamming mines, is there a direction or attack that consistently unanchors them?
>>558711838>>558712748Saber already has a statement on it, it was literally "yeah whatever, too bad fuckers" and im not kidding.
Join Absolute Disruption, we're buggedWe're in the last areaWNX4X
>>558716165requirements?
>>558714493Point? What do you mean point? Saber has no idea what they're doing with anything in SM2.
they need to add xp share like in pokemon
>>558716235Just join, Valtus is stuck on the bridgeI'll transfer host to youWe're in the last area
Calling for reinforcements, WNX4XValtus is stuck on the bridge in the final area
>>558714908>nukes bosses & extremis just by pressing Qtact does that better, while having infinite ammo and good team perks
Welp Valtus is bugged
>>558714727>>558714710>>558714757>>558714783Oh thank fuck. I'm not liking the techmarine axe and I'm leveling the heavy bolt rifle too and it's just meh
I don't think they thought these turrets through
>>558717862Hamstrung game design. They're so set in their backwards design ideas they can't put in what people actually want and have to 'gamify' everything. HD2 and DRG unironically gives a better techmarine experience than SM2.
>>558717862>I don't think they thoughtthey don't thought, bro. no thinking ok.
>>558717862They didn't think at all, they keep insisting they want the game to be about co-op and it's currently impossible to play the techmarine in multiplayer.
>/sm2g/ suddenly hates the techmarinewhat happened?
>>558717862they should have infinite ammo and explode when damaged
>>558718276>suddenlyPeople were hating on this idea since day 1. We all knew this would be a disaster when they announced a new class but no multi-classing, had turrets locked to maps, and the passives leaked with no ammo regen on the one class that could logically have it.
>>558718276It's boring and I'm even getting annoyed by all the shit on his back masking part of the enemy attack moves.
>>558718050what they were wondering working on him then, I wonder
>>558718537>what they were wondering working on him then, I wonderThey were working on SM3 and other games like Commando. Games make most of their money at launch, post release is often a sunk cost waste of time. The only reason they bothered to do anything was because they thought they could sell these shitty season passes of cosmetics but they fucked themselves in the foot by restricting everything so much that modders did a better job.
>>558717343yeah, tact does that better. tech is a slippery cunt though. everyone has been saying how squishy he is. and he might be squishy, but with the omnissian axe armor generation, just running out of situations you dislike gunstriking minoris, he is weirdly survivable.i really like him overall.
>>558718276I think it's fun but anything with the turrets is just a wasted perk slot
>techmarine can have a massive two handed axe including a two handed assault rifle>but vanguard just can't have a power fist just because it can't ok??gw and these devs are fucking retarded.
>>558718387They should be equipment instead of on the map. It genuinely makes no sense to have them scattered on the map since you have to kill all the enemies in the area just to get to it in the first place
>Repair tarantula turret>Pew Pew Pew for like 15 seconds>Have to repair it againWhat >>558720004were they thinking.
>>558720179His special skill should be the turret the shoulder gun should be his main weapon but these retarded slavs are too lazy to make a new aim angle/animation
>>558717343>tact does that better>look at the boss for a second and immediately get raped by 5 warriors and 2 lictorslol no
If they want everyone to run solo Techmarine the least they could have done is a double XP and SP event so everyone can max prestige quickly.
>>558720458Yeah, if they were smart they would have made him a melee class with a persistent servo-gun that does way less damage, and make his ability a remote turret drop
>>558718276>/sm2g/ suddenly hates>what happened
>>558699673i like the blue on blue trim with the og red fist on orange background like that john blanche illustration.
I realized you cannot farm Absolute anymore because the devs added more waves and a guaranteed Terminus boss fight.
I swear to god they buffed Zoanthropes, these fuckers are ASS CANCER now
Techmarine needs armour regen and ammo regen, going solo above Ruthless is a waste of time.
>>558722396i wish more people realized that.
>>558722719I'm a returning player and I didn't know these morons added more Extremis and at least one more Terminus boss.No one seems to be joining my games either so clearly everyone is leveling up the Techmarine.
>>558658863>omg he said the meme!cringe
Tech has a weak gun selection for seemingly having no ammo regen, his servo gun is alright but not that great, his melee options are strange and going for actual melee damage means you don't get free gunstrikes, and sentries are RNG while also being annoying to constantly get back up after they run out of ammoi'm not feeling him>>558722396Git gudbut yes it does slow down absolute runs significantly but its still probably more XP per minute if you finish than doing a lethal run
>>558723501>but its still probably more XP per minuteIt doesn't matter if you're going to wipe because 3 Biovores suddenly popped up and bombed your ass.
>>558722839it's been like that for a few updates now but underleveled players are still a common sight, i guess the risk-reward ratio is good enough for sociopaths to embrace their inner indians.>everyone is leveling up the Techmarine.pretty much, saber has been listening to people critiquing their matchmaking system for two years and did exectly nothing about it, resulting in shit breaking up completely >>558678905
>>558723673Back then I could solo Absolute as long as I had the first line of skills which I could get from just running Ruthless once.Today I'm getting walled before or at the bomb planting section of Decapitation.There's not a lot of ammo and health drops either so I'm guessing they've also nerfed it, fucking hell no one benefits if they made this more difficult.
>>558723673I completed the new operation on my first try on absolute as a level 1 techmarine.
>>558723914absolute and hard strategems are basically postgame now. Everything fell apart after they added prestige perks and Grigorenko made an angry post complaining the game is too easy.
>>558723949Yeah and my dad is the CEO of Games Workshop
>>558723949with a white balanced weapon and default kb+m keybindings, i'm sure.
techmarines getting rekt in absolute is because they don't replenish ammo and have no way to regen health/armoryou're best running ruthless/lethal every absolute loss is a colossal waste of time, you could have won in ruthless/lethal
>>558724524yeah I just farm ruthless, much faster and safer
Fuck Gaybre. Absolute clowns. That is all.
>>558724294
>>558724629>xp 5531
>>558724202The slavs don't even play anything above Substantial
>>558723650then dont wipeevery gun you have should be gold by now and thats all you need for an absolute
>>558724858Yes.
>>558722709It has armor regen. Sounds like a skill issue though
>>558724934>then don't wipe>yeah don't die when you're outnumbered by a massive wave with shitty bots that don't do anything
>>558724202>Everything fell apart after they added prestige perks and Grigorenko made an angry post complaining the game is too easy.Did he?Games Workshop should take Space Marine 3 from them if this were true.
>>558725263Yeah, just winI haven't played the game in 4 days, first time playing techmarine, first time using omnisiah axe, first time playing the new mission still beat absoluteits genuinely not that difficult
Russians aren't people
WHY LET PEOPLE JOIN IF YOU CANT PLAY THE SAME CLASSITS A FUCKING COOP GAME WHO CARES IF WE RUN THREE BULWARKS OR TECHS
>>558729784>WHY LET PEOPLE JOINyou can't. you only join people who have the same class as a fallback when there's no other lobbies you can join AND there are too many concurrent lobbies to let you become a host of another one. saber forgot to buy enough servers to run three times as many ops as before.>WHO CAREStriple auspexneverending heal banner100% extremis heal150% magazine sizeetcyou can't have nice things, russian videogames are about reforging yourself through pain and overcoming obstacles.
>>558730494Dumbass apologist shut the fuck up.
I genuinely think we should glass Russia
>>558730914>make fun of saber twice>APOLOGIST!11!burger time alright, i wish i wasn't having a panic attack and could sleep like normal people in yurop.
>go through 5 retards who either blow themselves up with grenades or are incapable of dodging the active carnifex>doing dodge build so picking off all the extremis and majoris>tactical joins right as I'm working on the carnifex and begins to nade launcher it and stuns me breaking my shields fully>back off and watch him get downed>sniper rage quits because he can't kill one ravener>kill both of them then begin moving forward because I can't kick this underbite imperial retard tactical>bulwark joins who actually has common sense>anger fades and begin enjoying the new build again>kill another carnifex solo>last area the tactical pulls out a flamethrower>leap ahead to punch a majoris>he proceeds to start flamethrowering both me and the one I am executing trying to get the other right next to me>downs meI cannot imagine the size of this inbred retards underbite.
>>558731248I wish Arrowhead had made SM2 at least then it might have been good.
>solo'ing up to wave 10 siege >remember I need ops for cosmetics>try to join ops as Tech>Join game, 2 techs>Join game, 2 techs>Join game, 2 techs>Join game, 1 tech, kickedJesus fucking Christ I am using maxed out weapons and have a full perk row unlocked you do NOT fucking need to be 25 to play a fucking absolute mission.
>bots are supposed to be a fallback solution, you shouldn't play with them intentionally>btw here's a new class that will be literally unplayable with other people for the next couple weeks
Why are co-op games typically run by such fuckwits?
so is there a best way to use the omnissiah axe or is it just fucked and ditch it after getting it maxed out?
Your honest opinion on the new operation?
>>558734046It's good, would be better if it was just tyranids.
>>558734046mid like all chaos ops
>>558734046>ChaosTrash
Okay I think i’ve found the best melee combo for tech boy>new heroic knife >parry>instantly start charging shadow strike>gunstike as soon as you start charging >let go at level one charge The gun strike staggers them long enough to make it a true combo and it one combos every majoris on absolute, two combos for extremis. Might want to bring the inferno pistol because the knife is pretty slow which makes it awkward to kill all of the minoris
Techmarine is a giant piece of shit>ZERO perks to actually replenish ammo and survive, not even the turrets spam helps them not making absolute/hard strat harder just because techmarine exist>lame as shit weapon selectionShit rushed patch, techturd might legit be the shittiest class in the game
>>558733312The best way to play techmarine is just playing tactical.
The omnissian axe misses so many parries and locks you out of dodging for absurd amounts of time after attacking while not really having strong attacks or combos, it's probably the hardest weapon in the game to use right now.
Iron Handsfags, do you guys color your pauldron trims any differently on your Techmarine because the base colors with it basically being all grey/black is boring as hell.
>>558735812Silver trim.
>started playing 2 months ago>never did an absolute >only ever clrared an hard strat once>only 1 class prestige IV, and i am not even good with it>try techmarine>get wrecked left and right in ruthless
turrets on inferno make it even more kino>>558735470you just need fencing, it covers the fact that its kinda clunky
>>558734046good, but too long and they should have had the sister of battle visible on a balcony or something.
yeah i'm really not liking the omnissiah axe so far, maybe once i get the relic block version and get the faster charge time perk i'll change on it but right now he's got mostly mediocre guns for such a weird melee style regardless, i'll get him to p4 then switch back to assault again
Yeah, this disaster finally made me uninstall. I got a ridiculous amount of time out of it, almost 1.5K hrs, really enjoyed the campaign, loved going past 25 waves until we got rekt with my frens. But its just too much shit now. I do not want to spend another 500 hours grinding blue shekels and prestige for new classes when i have 250 unplayed games in my library. It sucks. They have no idea what they're doing with this game now(and haven't for awhile) and it shows. Retard move after retard move. Slavs are africans God forgot to paint.gg Sarbe no re
>>558736347Already using fencing.
>>558736501>>558735470Its so mid I end up just shooting everything in the head instead. Because the Occulus and HBP deal more damage and are faster.
>>558735470I found that detonating strike lets you cancel out of that recovery faster than just raw 1st attack swing
Oh and there actually is a new weekly
I found that after picking up a techmarine's grenades that I got awarded an ordeal for using grenades as a techmarine despite never playing him. Bravo, Sabre.
>>558736876Tech marines single target damage is so abysmal it makes playing solo vs bosses boring as fuck
>>558739196I genuinely don't have the words to express how retarded you are
Its always the lowest IQ people who use the word retard unironically
>>558739305You kidding? I can 100 to 0 any boss with Tact instantly. You're lucky to get 30% off a boss with Tech.
>>558739502>throw grenade>use abilityWow, it's dead. So difficult
>>558740657>31%Anyway Tect > Tech.
>>558740657What qualifiers are you leaving out because that does like a third of its health at best.
>Default Servo>Fun, wipes out lots of big bads and small bads>Works well with first signature to double ammo>Try out the sniper one>three shots into the ether that 'might' kill something Please tell me the plasma version is better
>>558741143It stunlocks majoris and gives you plasma gunstrikes but that's about it, it isn't very good otherwise.
>>558741297>it isn't very good otherwise.god fucking dammit
Honestly Tech doesn't even seem like a Tact alternative, its just a bad version of heavy. Where instead of infinite free ammo coming out of a bullet hose of death you get to sometimes do that when you ability is off cooldown, and only for a few seconds.
>>558741780>infinite free ammo coming out of a bullet hose of deathThe servo gun is vastly stronger than the heavy bolter and the heavy bolter needs to choose between overheating extremely quickly or being almost unusable outside of close range while always taking like 50 consecutive headshots to incapacitate an extremis.
>>558740982Are you playing on substantial or something
>>558742236This webm was recorded on absolute>>558715145
>>558742114You're so incorrect its hard to tell where to start. Nothing you said is true.
Since nobody in this thread actually knows how to read, here's how to kill terminus enemies with techmarine>precision enhancement>methodical destruction>long range barrage>designated target>strategic gun strike
>>558742534>using a weapon that can't get headshots on a class with a dedicated extra headshot damage perkI'm really not surprised people in this general struggle with this game
>>558724294>level 10 tech marine>join mid lethal exfiltration>end of the post elevator section>assault takes like 3 full minutes to catch up to me and the other guy>going well afterward>pass the first bomb section>staircase room swarms>assault dies, the other guy goes down>have to fight a whole swarm and multiple zoans by myself>manage to revive him after using all my grenades and magazine ammo to clear enough space>assault keeps dying>basically duoing all the brain room objectives>get downed fighting a swarm directly after I fixed a turret, and as I was mashing the stim button, but it was the new slow regen type>get to trygon >assault is constantly respawning>other guy forgets how to do objectives>I'm the only one plugging trygon holes>no secure stockpile either>one of them actually took a melta bomb near me and fucking hoarded it>assault shitter quits on the last quarter of trygon hp>I'm hanging in there>mistimed a parry here and there, but I'm carrying and mostly dueling the tyrgon successfully>trygon initiates hole mode again>start cleaning it up again, like the janny I am>throw melta>detonate>gaunts were too tightly grouped and blocked my escape>retarded fucking self friendly fire equipment damage bullshit that should be patched out but never will>instant respawn timer because of my mortal wound from earlier>my game crashes immediately after I respawn timer>now the last guy thinks I rage quit like that retarded assault
Techmarine unuronically needs lv25 and a couple of prestige minimun to be just mote than a "weird tactical"It's not like something like Heavy that is hard strat ready as soon as you put a relic weapon in it's hand and has the first team perk
>>558724294Accidental reply >>558743425
I wonder if Assault's gun strike perk boosts the servo-gun
>>558742882>a class with a dedicated extra headshot damage perkNone of techmarine's perks increase headshot damage specifically.
>>558736479>too longbesides inferno and decapitation is there a mission that doesn't feel like it's too long?
>new med stimmwhat do you lads think of this one?
>>558744571Has made the game harder. Now every medi spawn has a 50% chance of being useless.
>>558744571Sunk cost fallacy. They still think this HP on attack system is smart.
>>558744571It potentially heals like twice as much? At the cost of being immediately useless and not being able to heal a mortal wound.It's not good.
>Entire row dedicated to the charge attack on Omni axe>Charge attack is terrible Welp
>>558744998I can't see myself using it on hard stratagems
>>558744270I see you haven't prestiged yet
>>558745065>Have to be a mile away from an enemy to get the most out of it Such a weird design choice.
>>558745071>um actually it's not a perk it's a prestige perkSo is that the modifier you're leaving out?
How do you fuck a giant axe that can create explosions?
I only had time to get my techmarine to lv10 yesterdayWhen it gets good?
>>558745634First prestige if you perk the right prestige perk, according to some.
>>558745573Meant fuck UP. I'm not an axe sexual
>omni axe charge lets you rapid fire quickshot>plasma shoulder does aoe>mfw every minoris swarm now>heroic increases damage of the next attack the longer you charge forI didn't think I'd enjoy this thing as much as I do.
Why do they hate their player base so much?
Now check out this tech.
>Solo Absolute Inferno as Techmarine at level 14>At the last section>Two zoans float up near me>Turn on Precision Servo Gun and they both incap Kek, this ALMOST makes up for all of his primary guns feeling doing potato damage
How do you do that move with the power sword where you stab it into the ground? I keep doing accidently when fighting enemies.
>>558749598>Attack>Wait for your marine to hold position with the sword glowing>Tap attack again
The Red Corsairs paint scheme is totally wrong because they couldn't be fucked adding in the correct pattern for the legs.
The worst thing about the bots is that they're a lot worse at gaining and holding aggro than players.You're constantly being focused by like two thirds of the enemies at least at any one time.
>>558730494They could make it so that perks don’t stack if there is more than one for each class and it would work. Nerf the effectiveness of abilities by a third for each copy of the class present. There are solutions that even if not optimal, at least do something. I still love the game and tech marine is fun regardless of what the drama queens are saying, but I wish they were a bit more bold with their decisions, just play test this shit before going live
>Dodge Assault with Balanced Power SwordIt's peak, holy Christ. Most fun build in the game.https://youtu.be/xti_6Bzpa8A?si=zch9Rse9O1FAtTgH&t=187
>>558744571its okay, use them if youre low on hp
Does Omnissian Rush count as a charged attack?
>>558744571Actually pretty great since it has the potential to heal you to full.
>>558751214IMO it's what you want when you're Gene Sneed carrying. Regular stims for every other scenario.
>>558744571>>558744638This.
This update and the clownshow of a DLC that got released really exacerbated all the things wrong with Saber. Complacency, utter disregard for player's requests. They should've outright said they move on to SM3 and other project and get rid of any semblance of prioritizing SM2.I don't think these bozos can turn things around unless next update somehow expands siege and battle-barge, brings QoL features (like locking absolute and hard strats from sub-prestige players) and adds bunch of new cosmetics (like those mock up hoodies and crests someone posted before).
I want it known here and now.I have done almost 20 missions including the weeklies. Half of them as assault.I am the only Iron Hands player I have seen in months, even now. Everyone else is hereby a poser.Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
>>558751738I didn't feel like using IH colors when the only mechanical part was a hand for the other classes.My IH Techmarine also has a red servo-arm and a single red shoulder pauldron.
Solo Lethal is the play, you're guaranteed to finish and if you find gene-seed you're only losing out on like 500 exp.
>>558752179You should have ate shit on that first beam.
>>558752179Absolutely retarded that's a prestige perk and not just how it works by default.
>>558749971They never updated the bots, they're still the same shit The only upgrade they got was purely cosmeticThey don't even give them skills and I've never seen one use heroic weapons
>>558752179Nah, horde mode hard is still easiest. You're almost always solo so you get full points to spend on guard, then 3-5 just buy a Heavy.
>>558751597I dont think they realise the damage SM3 is going to suffer because of how badly received these updates have been
>>558751597My only consolation after this dumpsterfire is the wave of negative reviews on steam for the DLC. Companies are very iffy when they see their product is 'downvoted' to kingdom come, which is exactly what's going now with the voicepack. I have this infantile hope people will wake up a bit to the bullshit we've told so far - "we are 100% dedicated to work on SM2 guuuyss!!!". >I don't think these bozos can turn thingsWell, they could but they would need to understand this >>558753151 and maybe just maybe start bringing people over from literally 10 other projects worked on atm to start making content for their biggest cash cow yet.
>>558753047Is it good because it's quick? I did Siege first but I got less experience than doing Inferno on absolute solo
No hotfix for stuck Valtus on the bridge?
Do the turrets have a duration or do they shut down after firing a set number of rounds?
>>558753837They're clearly desperate, given that huge discount if you own SM2 to buy their new dogshit PvE game no one wants
>>558754084After a certain amount of ammo is expended.
>>558754084Ammo and proximity
>>558754084They shut down when they hit a certain round cap, you can double it with a perk, otherwise if they take too much damage they explode as well. I actually quite like the ammo perk, at least until you get the invincibility while activating them. Turrets are common enough to be reliable.
>>558753837It's very obvious Saber is still stuck in the AA "pump out everything to keep the lights on" mode. Space Marine 2 is their first huge success, and they don't know how to pivot from there. If I were the studio head, I'd be doing everything in my power to secure the company's position as the lead team for Warhammer action games. Instead they still seem content pissing away goodwill via a skeleton crew and making games nobody cares about like Toxic Commando and the Painkiller reboot.
>>558731829>Not playing friendly fire strats with bots
Uhhh
>>558755430lol
There is absolutely no justification for these loading screens.
>>558744571It's a full hp heal. It's not an "cyka blyat" instant heal, but it allows you to trade with things and get far more healing if you're not in a critical situation, and even then it sort of works well too.
>Zoanthropes turn up>Activate Servo-Gun>They drop like a sack of shitHandy when you're running double plasma desu.
https://youtu.be/m2TXVLIWQv0Necron patch for SM2 when?
>>558757062Just wait for SM3, they're not going to add an entire faction to a game they clearly don't give a shit about
>>558757062>GW allowed Motherfucking Trazyn in a non Mechanicus game
>>558757062>GW single handedly keeps the vatnik vidya industry afloatlmao
is the combi melta good?I never see anyone else use it and I’m beginning to wonder if I wasted my blue stuff
Anyone tried the new Heroic combat knife yet?
>>558757568Certified Tactical parry weapon when combined with Auspex on Parry. Not much use elsewhere.
>mention here a little while ago that Assault should have a reliable way to recharge his jump pack when using the dash to open up his mobility>they actually do itObviously they're reading my posts.
>>558757929Charging on dash has been a thing since launch
>>558757525It's alright but I prefer taking the accuracy version of the Bolter. Main saving grace is that it doesn't have the "no secondary ammo from ammo crates" nerf that the GL Bolter/HBR have
>>558757062Sick
Call me the meme-man
The techmarine is a squishy little bitch.
>Join game>Loading>FAILURE>Loading>On ship>Disconnect>LOADING I remember why I prefer literally any other coop game over this one
>>558757929Smart people have been requesting more energy recovery and allowing jump dash to animation cancel for well over a year now. They were the two core crippling weaknesses of the dash build.Now that they've been addressed, Assault is IMO in the best spot of any class. He has tons of ways to mitigate damage, and he has two distinct builds that suit different weapons.
im glad the normies are starting to see how inept saber devs are.
>>558751738liar, ive been in this general long before you showed up buddy. ive never even seen you post models.my chapter is not your skinsuit.
>>558759089Mate, I have been the sole Iron Hands player on 4chan for so long that when I started our father still had his head.
>>558759089This your lot?Someone should tip off the inquisition at some point and just end your retardation.
>>558759697Forgot pic, just like GW forgot your chapter exists.
A Minotaur, Iron Hand and Blehd Rehven land on a world invaded by Tyranids.Hi jinks occur
>>558759893This is a much cooler design tbqh.
Hard weekly strat.Easy peesy
I see a video of some guy doing some kind of multi-stab with the omni axe after the charge, how does one do that? Is it just run into a majoris until you stop then mash?
how come this general doesn't play together often? most other generals seem to play together sometimes. I wonder what makes sm2g different?
>>558761939Too many people got blown the fuck out and started shit talking each other. Same thing happened in /coopg/
>>558761939It's most a general for people bitching about the game. Unlike other coop generals, this one is filled with shitters. I've had an easier time doing hard strats with consolefags than with anons here.
>>558761905I think it charges if you hold it and instead of just plinking off, if you get it to charge enough it does the extra attack
>>558761939>Post code and you will be luck if you get full lobby in an hourYeah I wonder why.
Which heroic weapon worth it in this new update
>>558762630All 3 have worth though the omni axe is mostly so you can level it quickly
>>558761939We used to but the general pop kinda dried outAlso the game changed and was made a lot easier with pugsAlso the thread drama of retards flinging shit at each others
I'm Australian so its kind of pointless.Same with all MP games outside the big normie ones like CoD/Fortnite/WoW
Remember our fallen brothers
is the omni axe explosion even worth it, seems to do fuck all damage
>>558764361Needs the faster charge speed, improved damage and follow-up attack for any real mileage.
Leveling sniper to prestige 4 level 25 and since I didn't level stalker rifles on my tactical I'm trying to kill 2 birds with one stone and honestly I'm feeling like the gun is kind of shit?It has mediocre ammo economy (and since I'm not on tactical I don't get unlimited ammo), the damage isn't that great, too many things have their heads blocked, the rate of fire is meh. Am I missing something? The marksman bolt carbine just feels superior.
>>558764339Why keep rolling?
Techmarine is so squishy at early levels it's much faster to run Ruthless Inferno than Decapitation/Ballistic Engine.Like the Bulwark it starts fucking shit up when it gets the sniper servo gun and most of its 3rd row perks are BiS.
>>558770382https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYnFIRc0k6E
>>558770545Peak game design.
>only 20% bonus XP>vatniks in charge of math againWhy not 2x so that everyone will max out quickly?
>>558761939Most people fell off I guess. The way Saber are handling the game is very interesting to say the least and it put a lot of the players off.>>558762939>thread drama of retards flinging shit at each othersThat was one instance where 3 morons had a chimp out. Since then there have been waves of code posting just not as plentiful as in the beginning. I will grant you though that their retardedness did halt threadly sessions.
>>558770016The damage version is a very solid weapon but without it levelled you it’s going to feel pretty shit until you get to purple rarity. Same goes for snipers ammo economy, very rough until you get the prestige perk to regen ammo on side arm kills.>>558770545>at early levelsIt only gets one meaningful DR perk and it’s the first team perk you get. It’s not getting any tankier, it’s like tac in a way. Kill shit super fast or get overwhelmed and chipped to death.
>>558761939>Blockniggers dying before the first wave>Fencinggers getting mogged by mass Majoris>kicking Anons for no reason>turd worlders with 150-200+ ping joining in a NA/EU lobby>there's one Anon who insists on playing Assault (most trash class)>A couple of Snoyggers who are mid>there's a couple of Anons who have their fingers glued to E for Execute, ensuring you won't get any>Literally an actual nigger, not even kidding
>no ammo regen>can only resupply non-melta bomb grenades (lmao)
>>558761939region and post code. be the change you want in the world
>>558771519Well that fucking sucksTac at least has the excuse of ammo sustainTime and time again I'm reminded of the telltale shit the designers and balancers don't play this game
>>558773358Tactical has Auspex, the best skill in the gameTactical has Secure Stockpiles, while the Techmarine can only regen normal grenadesTactical has Emperor's Vengeance, while the Techmarine does not have ammo regenerationTactical has Advanced Conditioning, while the Techmarine does not even restore armour much less contested HP
>>558773546I too enjoy playing Tac.
>>558757525>Doesn't refill on ammo crates>Doesn't refill on perkLmao as with a bunch of shit in the game it's unfun because you run out of ammoAlso bolt rifles suck, anything that requires sustained weak spot fire to do damage, sucks
The plasma incinerator without EV is dogshit, meanwhile the heroic HBR runs out of ammo fast
>>558773546All I'm saying that tac is better for the ammo on execute alone the team perks for tech Marine are genuinely shitIf they wanted to make it fun they'd let you equip a [existing] weapon to your servo arm
At this point I just feel like anyone complaining about ammo is either incredibly bad at melee or can't hit headshots
>>558773809Everything runs out of ammo fast, sabre be like that
>>558773820>fun>SaberBrother, where have you been for the past year and half?But I agree with your assessment, the class reeks of lack of QA testing.
i think i'm going to be using volkite on techmarine but should i go chain heat or bigger explosions on it?
>>558773907I don't want to melee, I'm a Space Marine.
>>558773907Ah yes let me just duel chaos marines in sustained firefights >Aim for one second>Trading shots with a bunch of unstunnable cunts >Lose all armor instantly because stubber fire and chaos bolts work like that Or even better>Trading with devourers, bonus points for enraged>Catch one stray devourer projectile>Lose 1.5 bars>Watch teammate engage in melee>Dies instantlyBolters are terrible and so idls relying on headshots
New community update Brothers:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/355-february-community-update
>>558774138That's your fault for playing chaos
>>558774131you are a tertiary, not a space marine
>>558773943>where have you been for the past year and halfI sorta play on and off to max out on accolades when i spend>Log in to clear normals>Solo hard because fuck sharing resources with inbred tards>Log off and bitch 11 months out of the year because lmao every change fails to address glaring issues and boneheaded foundational design
>>558774372I'm not playing Assault.
>>558774304Yeah but>Just bring plasma >Just bring sustainable bomb regen (tactical)>Dont bring an axe because enemies just don't melee you sometimes when you need them dead asapExistsI'm not going to play well on your terms when 1/4 of the arsenal existsBut you have to acknowledge that 3/4ths of the arsenal sucking as it does is unacceptableAnd this issue still exists vs nids, it just happens to be playable
>Hello, thanks for the suggestion. However, our focus is currently on improving online aspects of the game. Playing with bots will remain a lower priority compared to online improvements.tl;dr Fuck you
>>558774165>Completely avoiding the shitstorm surrounding the voice packShameful.
>>558774165Wow, they didn't have the guts to address the new DLC, huh? Also things must be pretty dire if they can't even hint at new "exciting" content and features.
Well, I guess it's something.
>>558774165>Nothing about the voicepack debacleI don't know what I expected but fucking hell this deserved a paragraph at least.
>>558748864Welcome back For Honor Lawbringer
>>558774861Uhuhuhu
>>558753047I thought they nerfed xp for early waves?
Is it worth taking tactical precision (+20% headshot damage - 10 body shot) on the heroic HBR? The negative 10 would weaken the GL portion of the gun no?
>>558774165Golly, I can't wait to hear what the man has to say!How come we're at a point where Fatshark seem to be more reliable and professional than these gopniks? Why can't they capitalize by doing more shit for the players?
I just noticed that assault doesn't get the cloak from his OWN champion piece when used outside of the skin. Are these devs lazy on crack or both because what the fuck is this bullshit.
>>558777490I mean it took them 3 patches to add the DA champion's robes when equipped to bulwark, not surprising>Are these devs lazyYes, obviously. Have you looked at what they've been doing for the last year and a bit?>on crackI'm no expert so I couldn't say>what the fuck is this bullshitAside from being lazy, they're also malicious. They've confirmed that a lot of things they've added that seems like unintended bullshit is just intended and they just think the game should be frustrating.
Yeah idk which nationality is worse at handling PvE games at this point, Ziggers or Swiggers
>>558776270>>558778621Fatshark is just incompetent. Russians are evil. Every time the game director has anything to say you can tell hes seething because how dare anyone challenge his perfect vision.
>>558774165>those cherrypicked ideasThey really sift through them don't they? And what the fuck is "planned" supposed to mean? Planned for when? When SM3 comes out? I might come across little negative but it's because I want this game to be good and Saber fuck up at almost every turn.
>>558780163That's like 90% of game directors in AA/AAA games, their vision is the right vision despite never playing their own game. The remaining 10% are the ones whose game is failing and they're desperate to please the players.
>>558780406At this point I play this game in spite of Saber, not because of them. If I expect nothing, the letdown will be minimal.Techmarine is decent, not groundbreaking, but his playstyle is unique and that's satisfactory enough. Assault got some big unexpected changes and now the class that was certified dogshit is now a certified high A-tier across both factions. The only reason I wouldn't call him S-tier is because he's still abysmal against Zoans and Neuros. Like he just can't do shit against them without a power fist and angular luck.
>>558781332tfw you hear all this cool things about the dodge build but when you decide to play assault you don't have the mental energy to learn anything new and just stick to the old block thammer
is it just me or is the full auto bolt carbine actually good now?I just tried it out after putting it down when I realized it sucked at launch but it's completely unrecognizable from how I remember it
>>558783296I really enjoyed it on the Sniper.
is it possible to find a public lobby if you don't want to play the new c lass, or do you end up in a techmarine staredown anyway?
>>558774165why the fuck aren't they saying anything about the matchmaking
>>558784135they dont carethey have 7 games coming out this year
>Summary: Add a customisation option to change the colour of the weapons.> Thank you for the idea. At the moment, we want to keep the weapon colour skins as a reward for the Siege mode. However, we can confirm that more colours are coming. What are they talking about, since the pyroblaster addition they haven't even bothered giving any of the new weapons siege skins lol
>>558784535And each one of them is going to sell <250,000 copies if they're lucky.Saber got the rarest possible break any AA studio could hope for, being given the reins to an iconic IP known across the world, and delivering on a decent game that still sees 10K+ players during a slow window when no updates are happening. Again, if I were the CEO of the company, I'd be binning off everything I could in exchange for a proper dedicated Space Marine 2 support team, capable of pumping out classes, levels and cosmetics at an even pace between them, and doubling down on Space Marine 3.
>>558784873they are probably going to throw us some scraps to entice people to come back to siege when they add mutators in a future update.
>>558784953If they were smart instead of sm3 they would've started developing a sm2 spin-off that works like helldivers
>>558784008YesOn hard weekly stratagemsLow level, non-maxed Techmarines do show up but they're kicked out at lobbies and in-gameIf you want normal Operations, stick to Chaos mapsEveryone is leveling on Inferno and Decapitation from Ruthless to Absolute
>>558785450fucking hell. I guess I'll post a lethal inferno code later itt, I hate chaos.
>>558785608I haven't seen a L25P4 Techmarine yet, highest I've seen is a lvl1P3 and he still got kicked on Normal Termination
>>558785672>I haven't seen a L25P4 Techmarine yetIt wasn't easy but I'm finally free
>>558785885Are his best skills all bottom row?
>>558785885>all bottom rowplease don't tell me this is assault 2 electric boogaloo
>>558785258>All the incompetence of arrowhead>Except every shit idea and implementation is driven by malice and not just sheer incompetenceAlthough I'm aware the community manager(a) were let go at one point for being incredibly condescending to community FeedbackI get why it's so hard to make a good feeling system with good feeling combatBoth companies check user statistics and no one in the balancing and change teams ever shows insight or evidence of having played the gameAs a result you have a foundation based on a bunch of enemies with actions to make core gameplay difficult, with nothing to make up for it so the game just looks like its designed to be annoying, rather than challengingOh and both HD2 and sm2 are dog shit because they actively incentivize splitting up and away from your teammate to avoid concentrated aggro and there's zero incentive to stick together since grenade stagger is annoying on absolute and teammates 100% absorbing shots is genuine bullshitAlsox2 enemies like the neurothrope and zoanthropes vs vanguard/bulwark/assault are just unacceptableAnd don't get me started on warlocks and the game expecting me to headshot them floating around zippity doo da
Can someone post Techmarine's prestige perks?
>>558785979>>558786030Nah, I was just messing about with some meme builds. The Prestige perks though are top tier imho. I used this chart an Anon made.
>>558786492This needs updated. The free invincibility during sentry activation is super good, replaced the shitty teammate revive perk.
Few levels in and I'm overall enjoying the techmarine. It seems to me that he's supposed to be mid at both shooting and fighting while specializing in his class ability and grenades. Which makes me wish they gave the extra equipment perk to the tactical and have the techmarine the equipment regeneration perk.
>>558787691Oh, one fundamental thing I would've done differently: the servogun should be your primary and your abiltity should be teleporting in the tarantula turret to your position.
>>558787691he should have ammo, armor, and equipment regen as his 3 team perks
>>558788424Perhaps, but sadly two are already taken plus you want one related to the turrent for those that like them.
>>558787691dude, you're overstimulating him, he'll blast your servoarm off.
>>558787691Also also, bugs that you guys probably noticed too: the first team perk costs 500, minoris servo turret kills are tracked for an extremis kill class challange and sometimes your ability will refresh itself during a fight making me think that the decapitating stratagem perk is enabled before you even unlock it, like how the healing banner used to be.
>>558786241>Although I'm aware the community manager(a) were let go at one point for being incredibly condescending to community FeedbackI remember. Dude was on some power trip, like many CMs are. Wasn't he part of the hello neighbor team as well and got booted off?>Both companies check user statistics and no one in the balancing and change teams ever shows insight or evidence of having played the gameI hate this but it's the truth. It's like playing their own game is a form of punishment for devs. Though I do vaguely recall an Arrowhead dev doing live stream way back in the beginning where he did a solo Helldive and made a successful run. Comparatively, I have yet to see a Saber dev live let's play of Absolute or Hard strats, even if it were of their own volition rather than studio-mandated stunt.>Oh and both HD2 and sm2 are dog shit because they actively incentivize splitting upYeah. With SM2 I wish we had options to make builds that encourage having full life bars and armor pips rather than relying on low HP=more damage mitigation>Alsox2 enemies like the neurothrope and zoanthropes vs vanguard/bulwark/assault are just unacceptableThat's just AI director coded with russian devs ill-intent
>>558788909>your ability will refresh itself during a fightYou sure that isn't the first signature perk? It's been pretty handy to me honestly.
>>558789397Sorry if it was nuclear: it happened multiple times before unlocking it.
>>558774165>All those comments tearing them and Grigorenko a new assholeOne can only imagine how assblasted they have to be to see that even on their goodboy forums people aren't taking any shit and are actively calling them out on being lazy fucks. Glorious.I suppose it had to bite them in the ass sooner or later.
>>558789642Oh, more bugs then.
Playing techmarine in Chaos missions is miserable
>>558790901I'll do what I do with Tact, run plasma against them.
>>558791090Plasma on tech is fucking AWFULL lol
>>558791179but is it worse than your ortography?
Wait, how do TS make Hellbrutes if all their marines are dust?
>>558791624Either kidnap some fucker from another legion or recover a sorc who doesn't know enough about biomancy to fix himself.
>>558791624they abduct space marines of other legions.
>>558786030imho Techmarine is worse than Assault at it's lowestThe class is super mediocre gimmicky
>>558791624Helbrutes aren't Thousand Snus only, they're everywhere for ChaosniggersThey're different from a Chaos dreadnought, a Helbrute is not a volunteer
I heard Techmarine is out now. Crazy how I've just completely lost any desire to play the game. I was waiting on him and the Iron Hands, but between the slow as fuck release schedule and dog shit weeklies, I just don't even know. Is this week fun at least?
>>558792107Chaos dreads weren't necessarily volunteers either.>>558792169Friendly Fire is on again
>>558791714>>558791734>>558792107Yes that makes sense.
>have trouble parrying shit with techmarine>maybe my axe is block type >it's fencing????????Wtf? Literally every other class i can fence Spawn with ease but with Tech it's perpetual ragdolling into a coma
>>558792386When in doubt, it's probably a bug
>>558792367it doesn't. why would a kidnapped, critically wounded space marine want to fight for you? all 40k chaos lore is extremely stupid, i wish GW never made adeptus titanicus or at least chose eldars or orks as the enemy faction.
>>558792386are you using the omnissian axe?
>>558793017yes
>>558792794Because you have nothing else to do with your life, I think the general thing with Hellbrutes is that they're things you unleash on your enemies and then chain up when they've done their job. Like a big old Eversor assassin.
>>558793062anons complained about it yesterday, parry frames are fucked up, sorry.
>>558792386this has been a bug since the game came outmy guess is the animation is playing too quickly or the hitbox is too small so sometimes your character just ends up in a deadzone where it cant hit youits never getting fixed
>>558792794all chaos niggers are completely demented by the warp, the moment you take that away they realize what they are/what they have done and turn back to humanity.
>>558793062Is the heroic worth worth it over the 3-cleave on the fencing relic axe?
>>558794454take a guess
Hurry Brothers! New Battle-barge has arrived!>>558795020>>558795020>>558795020
A Techmarine blackpill to close out the threadHe's probably slightly overtuned
The VA for the woman inside the Cathedral is the exact same VA as Metrian from the Trygon mission.
>>558792169>Is this week fun at least?Returning player and TK'd my teammates 2 times with the Tac execution perk. So subjective, I guess.
>>558795241I'm only level 17, is the plasma build the way to go? I haven't tasted it yet.I take it omnissian axe isn't even his best melee weapon
>>558795676It has somewhat grown on me, does some good burst damage and clears chaff quite well. Haven't really played around with the charging poke attack but the power discharge makes the weapon work.
>>558795606Getting exploded because the Tac has the explosion detonation perk as well as it just fucking going off when you yoink minoris lunges is honestly selling me on the head explosion on reinforcement call keystone for my own Tac. I may be too stupid to manage the mental stack of going for gunstrike executes over just ripping the E key every time but I've had that keystone be impactful like once over the last several games I've played with Tactical.
