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Harmony Day Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/post-207811

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Deadthread: >>558808737
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>1-19 graves keeps going to the enemy base while her lane is red
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Sex with Venator
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rape graves and celeste and rem
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>retarded shiv teammate not using all of his CDs
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>>558855782
I forgot about this. This was his ult, wasn't it?
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>>558855782
I keep forgetting to use this ability when I play Shiv, just like counterspell
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I've climbed from Arcanist 1 to Archon 1
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>>558855942
Any zoomers ignore this man. I'm almost 40, got married, am successful, accomplished quite a bit, and I would have been happier playing vidya every waking moment when I look back.
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>>558855782
is shiv dracula?
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I'm more interested in the characters and plot than the gameplay loop itself tbhdesu so I hope they don't pull the same old shit where a character like sinclair will remain stagnant and still want a divorce that never comes 10 years down the line
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>>558856113
hey don't tell them accomplishments don't matter to the world and all love fades

can't have the kids hear the truth
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>>558856471
they will forget every character that exists before this batch eventually
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>>558856471
is this a joke? why would they suddenly change motivation?
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THIS is what paige should've looked like.
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>>558856648
guh...
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>>558856548
>suddenly
I feel you missed the point of my post
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>>558856515
Oh I still love my wife, we play vidya together and she still looks like a kpop idol, even as she ages. It's just when you get old you just want your job to be a good day in and out and playing vidya is more satisfying than some fag shit like being the boss. Erickson's stages of development are a jew scam
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>>558856648
My fuarkin hero
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I have just discovered an OP strat for ez wins (@ arcanist 3).
1. Pick Victor
2. Don't lose lane
3. After laning, run around the whole map all game, looking for sinner's sacrifices (boxes with a circle inside on the map) (nobody ever goes after them) and getting buffs from them. Because Victor really benefits from all stats (except maybe gun-related), you will soon be super OP compared to everyone else. Also, on your way between sinners sacrifices, farm easy-to-farm waves, golden statues and chests. You'll never need to go to the base to heal - just press 2. Also, farm jungle camps. When you have money, go to secret shop and buy your shit there.
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>>558856869
Silver would actually be peak if she looked like that.
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If you or your team mate die in the laning phase, you might as well fucking quit. The match is already lost and you're fucking stupid and you'll never catch up
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>>558856919
I do this as everyone it's astounding how little fucks 90% of all players give to all those boxes and statues. Is it even the game's fault for not being clear enough or are people just straight up retarded?
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>>558856919
everyone benefits from all stats you peanut head
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>>558857171
I found it out in game... 3? Went in blind too. People are just THAT retarded and probably can't comprehend they'll spend 3200 on a conditional 50% weapon damage, but don't think 4% for FREE is good
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>>558857292
Abrams doesn't really care about spirit. Graves doesn't care about gun damage.
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>>558857372
>Graves doesn't care about gun damage.
t. retard
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>haze only buys gun items
>shoots me
>pop return fire
>dies in a second without me doing anything back
eat your greens kids
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>>558856471
I mean dota had a few developments and lore events where they just ignore the battle of the ancients but the ritual is also a fixed point. It doesn't make a ton of sense to delve deep into character arcs in a multiplayer game about doing the same thing over and over.
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>>558857372
>Abrams doesn't really care about spirit.
t. retard
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Replace box fire rate with health regen
Buff CDR to 1.5%
Add increased aoe to boxes
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So the current meta is, if you're a hero without four bars and don't buy a stamina item and/or warp stone, you're a cripple. Is that correct?
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sometimes I like to go back to dota and call the creeps troopers on purpose
no one hates deadlock more than dota players
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>>558857460
knowing the average haze player, he probably thought you did some black magic curse on him, much like with billy/abrams players when you parry them
>>558857680
>Replace box fire rate with health regen
it cant be anything huge, make it like 0.2 health per second
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>>558857680
>health regen
I'm retarded, I meant healing effectiveness. Health regen would be broken in lane and useless later
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>>558857773
Movement has always been the meta
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>>558855710
I saw this and thought you might like it.
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>>558857876
True, but it used to be all about fleetfoot.
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>>558857778
All my dota friends also play deadlock. Only seen seething from tf2fags.
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>only like 1 or maybe 2 heroes and having a real hard time expanding my pool
they need to add more characters that cater specifically to my preferences
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>>558857778
>no one hates deadlock more than dota players
TF2fags do.
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jesus dude laning against Rem is so fucking miserable if you have bad waveclear. He puts two points into helpers and now you have an impossibly tanky trooper wave that also deals extra damage constantly assraping your tower, good luck ever getting prio again
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>>558857961
Total. One Trick. Death.
You WILL learn how to play all of the heroes
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>>558857961
What makes you nut? We're due for the obligatory catgirl and sun wukong Erlang Shen would go great in the game too, unironically
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>>558858018
Your only hope is that it's a retarded Rem that doesn't know troopers can be buffed in the first place (I've seen this a few times) and/or that he goes and steals all of his team's sinners and not yours (this happens every other Rem game)
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>>558857680
add projectile speed% to boxes (like vampire survivors)
add +3 crit%
add stamina regen%
add sprint speed%
add movement slow resist%
add mini heroic aura npc buff%
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>>558857778
>no one hates deadlock more than dota players
TF2 is that 8 year old kid who's parents are having another baby and is getting super upset they're not getting any attention.
Except instead of being 8 they're pushing 40 and expecting for their parents to pay their rent still.
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I'm an avid instagram reels doomscroller and i have to say the game is starting to really hit the mainstream, or at least the edges of mainstream. Wasn't a couple months ago where any deadlock video was filled with comments like "temu marvel rivals" or just asking what the fuck the game even was, now i'm getting a lot of videos of some normalfag streamers playing it. Lots of women playing it too apparently, contrary to Dota. Its a bit silly to act defensive over a game's increasing popularity, but i'm going to miss this feeling of being part of a small club.
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>>558858451
>I'm an avid instagram reels doomscroller
You need to fix your brain.
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>>558858497
Yeah probably but also do you know where you are
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>>558858098
Can't be me. I steal enemy camps and sinners.
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>>558858542
Yeah, not on Instagram.
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>>558858503
I don't want to write the whole thing out again but. So did they remove brawl bots or what. Do I have to dig through custom matches like some kind of lepor? Like an AIDS niggeur? No thank you sir. That isn't for me. I'm a huwhiteu manu I don't *do* menu digging.
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>>558858092
I was thinking more in terms of gameplay. Wish there were more gun characters whose gun isn't just rapid fire + big mag. Give me a semi-automatic rifle or revolver hero, and a shotgun carry.
Venator is kind of nice but his main gun feels exactly the same as that of every other m1gger. Silver's shotgun is nice on paper, but her human form feels like total dogshit to play because all the power budget went into the ulti. I just can't make it work for me.

For aesthetics a gentleman villain like JP from Street Fighter would slap even though it probably wouldn't be my kind of character.
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>it's one of those matches where you can tell within the first minute that the dude you're laned with is a fucking retard and will singlehandedly cost you the game
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>>558858697
why is he bara?
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I tried using restorative locket yesterday on Abrams and it was such a fucking meem. Is there anyone who can take full advantage of it? Victor maybe?
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>>558858916
>a shotgun carry.

gun abrams, although he is a semi-carry at most
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>Fed Haze and Vyper wins because Dynamo has Refresher
I genuinely think it's time for both Refresher and Echo Shard to not work on certain abilities to balance the game. It doesn't matter how bad your team is, as long as Dynamo uses his ult twice, he will always secure the win in the team fight. It needs to disabled for his ult.
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>>558859067
Its more of a lane counterbuy item, get it if you're going against heroes who spam a lot. Mina likes it too, the burst regen is good since she's made of glass and the recovered stamina makes her more slippery
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spirit abrams is pretty fun you're like a victor that comes online earlier
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>>558858921
I probably am that person in most matches
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>>558859067
I saw an apollo use it pretty effectively because he was twirling around every teamfight and stacking charges. I'm in ritualist, though...
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>>558858736
I had no idea brawl bot matches even existed, thats like riding your tricycle in a gummy padded room or something
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>>558859067
i think it could be viable on shiv but it's really undertuned compared to the other tier 2s
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>>558857919
Pretty good, another for my collection
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Is debuff reducer still good?
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>>558859208
Yeah it way MY gummy trycycle room whatever I wanted to fuck around and not bother real humans with my bad gameplay. You think I'm good enough for that shit? No. I'm hammered I just want to be left alone tommy bit match and chill out I wouldn't curse one of you with my gamingâ„¢
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I wish I knew how to play more aggressively in laning phase. Team mate always dies and it's probably my fault.
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Gun Graves is too OP and should be nerfed
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>>558859305
Happy to be of service, glad you like it.
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>>558859390
Just pretend I spelled everything correctly
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>>558859441
I could BARELY 1v1 her as Billy. She sucks all my strength away.
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>>558859095
Raped by science man? Sorry sweaty, he is the cosmos and you're not.
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>>558859095
Don't stay so grouped up and cc dynamo
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Why does Vyper love Lash so much?
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>Sucks your whole team in with a lanewide vortex web
>Knockup + Silence + Lightning scroll + Kudzu giga slow + Spirit burn + Stone form stun
Fuck this dishonest nigger hero
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>>558859932
Everyone loves Lash
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>>558859991
>knock up
lol
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>>558858916
Shotgun user who can swap between flechette that causes bleeds and long range slugs that consume that bleed for bonus damage. Make the bleed passive and the slugs a charge on the skill. Give them low mobility but increased damage per damage taken recently so they want to get in, and a skill that causes damage taken to be delayed as a dot (similar to abrahms but in the other direction). Uhhhhhhhh how about an ult that causes big single target damage to yourself and an enemy? I dunno I'm just going off the top. Give them a gun arm or some shit so the self damage makes sense
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>>558860097
Stupid fuck retard nigger
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PLEASE LET ME HIT A LOSING STREAK I DO NOT BELONG IN THIS ELO
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>>558859991
Ivy just turned 25 and became an Abuelita I see
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>>558860126
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Valve should add a maid to deadlock.
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>>558859991
>ivy has 3 tier four items
>you do not have unstoppable yet
?
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>>558860194
i just found it funny that it sounded like pregnancy anon...why so mad...
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>>558860126
I audibly blurt out shit like "where do you think you're going" when I get a good rope
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>>558860367
many are saying this
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>our kelvin pops his shitty igloo
>tries to 1v1 a haze
>just dies
uhhhhhhh
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>>558860543
Maybe he did it to stall..
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>>558860543
IN HERE, I AM KING
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>try to push up lane and do something else on the map
>it gets pushed back instantly
How the FUCK do you get prio and space to roam in this game with the speed the wave gets pushed up? The window to do something else is like 20 seconds max what the FUCK
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>>558860727
leave 1 or 2 minions alive but on low leath and let your wave finish it off so you'll have multiple waves ona lane pushing it forward, harder for people to notice initially
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>>558860543
THE STREETS OF OSAKA'S
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saw a streamer working on a proxy farm strat with vyper last night and it was the funniest shit I've seen in deadlock yet
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>>558860848
https://xcancel.com/chazm_ball/status/2027554512051851559
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>>558860901
yeah that's the guy, reminded me a bit of chi long qua lol
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>>558860901
that is so fucking cancer
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>>558860901
>Deadlockers learned about axe cutting the creep wave
>It's far less effective
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>>558860901
kek
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>>558860413
I usually go for "Start running, pal!" when I gank
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>>558861163
PULL.
BACK.
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Is there any way to recover a replay when getting this error? I have a screen recorder if there's a ay to just watch it without downloading it
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>>558860901
It's like I'm really playing dota 3 for real now
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>Three people on the enemy team consecutively pause the game mainly to call our Apollo a nigger while we're all dead and they're about to win.
I mean he deserved it, but we're already done, gee whizz.
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>>558861227
I'LL TAKE ON ALL OF YOU!
RAHAHAHAHA!
DON'T BOTHER GETTING UP
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>>558860819
I love that voice line
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i am learning vindicta
give me your best vindicta tips /dlg/
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pick a different hero is my tip
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time to play during morning EU hours, I wonder who will my teammates be...
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>>558861715
why do you want to play the ultranightmare difficulty character?
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>>558861785
TEAM HELLO???
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>>558861785
is now a good time to hop on and learn the game? haven't played since 4 lanes
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>>558861804
cute ghost
sniper rifle
big damage shots
idk
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>>558861715
have a good video ready to go on your second monitor, watching the death timer gets boring
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>>558861715
lightning scroll is actually extremely irritating on her if you can aim
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Don't check the news just queue
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>>558860901
>doesn't outpace anyone in souls
>costs his team the game

So it's pointless
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what do ehp calculations look like in this game? i.e. assuming you're taking 100% spirit damage, what is the ideal ratio of hp:spirit res
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>>558862454
ehp? this ain't osrs lil bro
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>new to the game
>game puts me in a lane against silver
>die a ton
>lane partner ditches me mid lane phase
>silver goes 27-1
help
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>>558862454
counterspell, and spirit resilience or spellbreaker
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>>558862536
just a dotard that likes math.
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>>558862312
Awful
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>>558862541
>lane partner ditches me mid lane phase
you leave the lane yourself at that point
>silver goes 27-1
bro your disarming hex?
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>>558862541
Silver mauling you to death isn't the problem, probably. You likely are being too aggressive in lane and mis-positioning yourself ahead of wave or in enemy firing lines where they can jump you.
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Why do people keep forcing me to solo farn lanes on Rem I don't need the souls I need to steal enemy sinners.
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i love how vyper is secretly s tier and can beam/melt people faster than haze, but no one really complains about her because she's one of the least picked heroes
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should i play Bebop if I find him fun, but know it won't take me far and my time would be better spent learning someone like Mina?
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>>558862749
she needs to farm though, she isn't really a hero until imo ricochet and either inhib/silencer. she's a freak in lane though
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How the fuck do people get kills early as drifter, i do 0 damage
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>>558862986
good luck ever playing mina when she is picked by 90% of the playerbase
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>>558863065
or banned lol
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>>558862986
Mina isn't a carry because she falls off hard late game, oh and she's also both one of the most picked and banned heroes so good luck actually reliably getting her
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is there any streamer who doesn't complain the entire time they're playing the game besides zerggy? I need somebody to watch at night.
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whats even the point of venators ult now? you do more dps just shooting your gun
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I got the rem model working and made a (shitty) rig for him for animation.
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can anyone explain the vortex web combo with doorman? every time i try to web and immediately throw out my cart, they just walk to the side after the grenade and dodge the cart
are you supposed to press cart and then vortex into its path as its rolling? or is it a conbo that has to be done super close to an enemy? every time i try it from Blue walker to where the van sits right at the corner, it literally never works out
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>>558863449
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>>558862318
>costs his team the game
He won and thats despite his team being retarded and not pushing the macro advantage fast enough
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>>558862986
Why wouldn't Bebop take you far? You can play and succeed with any character in this game.
>>558863115
>she's also both one of the most picked and banned heroes so good luck actually reliably getting her
Just like Bebop
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>>558863684
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>>558863681
you need to press them at the same time, if they're too far away they don't quite get pulled to the middle and you need to account for it/get lucky
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gooboy, despite BMing me the first time I got you killed and coping when i got you back twice and BM'd you
it was based to commend me post game, and i forgive you for ragebaiting me
also fuck you paige you fucking nigger calling me new and then somehow doing worse than me
sorry you tried doing apex sliding around the fed gooboy instead of falling back to the walker where apollo was coming to save us
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>>558863449
fondling abram's balls?
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>>558862986
Build Bebop as a tank and he will take you far. Also him having an 8sec cooldown HOOK will never not be viable
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>>558863778
so vortex doesnt always pull to the enter? it seems like kind of a shitty item then
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>>558856648
>touhou
Go play Marathon faggot
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>>558863449
Since I have this rem rig you guys are welcome to ask for funny dumb gifs
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what does she actually add to the team besides occasionally swapping positions with an enemy?
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is the magician a good character to learn the game with?
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>>558863818
makes me think that abrams balls are sagging really really uncomfortably low
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>>558856648
she does look like that, though
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>>558863972
a gigantic wall that prevents all gun damage while allowing your team to still shoot through it
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>>558863986
no because he steals ults (on a lower cooldown) and you have to actually know what the ults are to be effective as him
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What the fuck is up with these feeding nigger jew agents in Oracle?
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>>558864112
weekend games late night they're probably high
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>>558864112
>>558864143
let me pause the game i need to smoke my blunt hold on
oh im gonna take a bathroom break too please dont unpause the game
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>>558864073
Makes sense. I'll start with mo and krill then.
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>>558863986
Absolutely not.
His kit is not the friendliest to newbs, especially his 4 which requires knowledge of other character's ults.
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>>558863991
that's hot
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>>558864112
I got two people with Italian brainrot names on my team yesterday that fed, made me wonder if they were kids or just retarded.
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>>558864112
Oracle is crazy nigger elo, some of the biggest pigs ive seen ingame have been on here.
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>>558860367
Retarded character design just like the touhou fanbase
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why does warden have an alchemical flask seems out of character
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>>558864256
Get trophy collector and torment pulse and go gank people, if they die to your ult or 3 seconds after you get 50 max health, trophy gives you 20 health per stack (a maximum of 16), you can use your other abilities when you are burrowed underground
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>>558864612
Placeholder model please undastand
Family is basically schizo anti-occultists, he has the appropriate equipment to fight such forces
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>>558864612
He's Sinclair tier placeholder, both of them don't even have voicelines with other characters
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Yeah let me just waste 45 minutes because the Paige is a heckin meme faggot IDF retard who gave them 300 free kills
These people should be castrated, they won't breed anyway but they deserve the pain.
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>>558865009
>45 minutes
>39k souls on one of the fastest farming carries in the game
hmmmmmmm
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>>558865068
Kill yourself shlomo
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I never expected deadlock to mog marathon, I figured it would've had a lot of turdies playing it
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which characters work best with trophy hunter?
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>>558865242
Beastro, the Chimera chef, and Scrimbloid
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>>558865235
Bungie is a dead company it doesn't surprise me
Remember when they were straight up caught using some guy's online art?
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>>558865009
How do you die 26 times as Paige? She literally has a shield.
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>>558865242
characters that want to show up to every fight but don't need items to be useful
basically just paige
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>>558865242
I like it in Mo and Krill
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>>558860901
>Infected Mushrooms
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>warden uses his little claw machine
>it procs
>try charging them as abrams
>they stay perfectly still
huh?
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>>558865319
Deliberate feeding.
Uninstalled this shit game, can only take so much of Russians, IDF jews and niggerfaggot retard trolls.
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>>558865319
probably by holding w
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>>558865009
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>>558865576
>IDF jews
This is the first time I've seen anyone complain about Israeli players.
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>>558865663
No literally had a melee retard Mossad agent haze on my team last match.
>>558865764
Hitler should have wiped out every single jewish person.
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>>558865839
melee haze will be meta as soon as we can get a streamer to play it
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>IN A FEW SECONDS, IT'LL ALL BE ((OVER))
>https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=warden_use_power4_08.mp3
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>>558865839
Someone posted this last thread
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>>558865839
How do you know that he is jewish, and especially MOSSAD? Or do you just call everyone you don't like and Israeli agent?
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How do we make Wraith fun?
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>>558865764
Every single Rem player is ashkenazi israeli though.
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>>558865969
Impossible.
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>>558865919
That was my previous game.
>>558865934
>do you just call everyone you don't like an Israeli agent?
Yes.
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>>558865998
>Yes.
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how do you shut down the faggot vampire (female)
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>>558866054
Slowing hex, silence, curse, disarming hex, phantom strike
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>Bridge buffs are up, now go get them like a good little boy
Why did graves say this
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because you're using some ai slop shitter handholding mod like goycattle
next question
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>>558866179
>she buys dispel
>the rest of your team doesn't buy utility
tell me I'm not the only one
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>he’s not buying only greens
ngmi
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>drifter, evil vampire that's hundreds of years old and relishes in murder
>his ult is just him whistling

>meanwhile Silver turns into an actual murder machine

Lame
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When can we ban the new Heroes?
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Gonna try to play Vyper for the frist time, what am I into?
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>>558866482
In a month or so time. That's how it took for the first 6 patch if I recall correctly.
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>>558866463
well what do you expect him to do?
say "IT'S MURDERIN TIME" with a wicked grin then start masturbating with gore or what
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>>558863881
Make him do the GEDDAN dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr3gncRbzX4
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>>558855581
This game piqued my interest in dota a bit, but what's that game like nowadays? Is it basically a zombie game like tf2 that's too late to fully enjoy?
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>>558866534
when do we get to ban all of them
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I might lose with paradox all the time but nothing can beat the dopamine of landing cool combos with her
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>>558866463
>he doesn't realize drifter is a frenchman who migrated to the us south which is why he has a cajun accent.
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>>558866502
carpal tunnel syndrome
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>>558866639
Its perfectly alive and fully functional in EU along with probably China.
The game doesn't have very functional matchmaking for higher rank NA though.
Even if you don't feel like grinding actual dota2 matches you can just play shit in the arcade like wc3 ums maps.
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>>558864653
>anti-occultists
Based burn /x/iggers
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>>558866781
no one wants to know about your operation
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I feel like Apollo genuinely does fall off late game but holy shit he's so oppressive and so hard to kill for so long. Laning against him is a nightmare.>>558866659
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>>558866502
>Vyper
Her gun isn't accurate worth a shit at long ranges, so just rebind crouch to rmb to make sliding constantly easy
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>try to get the hang of some other heroes aside from Graves so I have a bit of variety
>spend all day playing matches and trying out some of the others
>do dogshit on all of them
>only one aside from graves that i've enjoyed is viscous but i'm really bad playing him
I don't know if this game is for me
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>>558866030
Kill yourself actual JIDF mossad agent
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>>558867108
do u W key down a lane, ult at walker at die every life?
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>>558867138
I try not to
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>>558866502
The Lash
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>>558867112
I have been called many things, but this is a first. Also, my grandma literally ethnically screened who would be donating blood to my mother when she was a sickly infant to make sure none of them where jews, so you couldn't be any more wrong.
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How do you play late game teamfights as mirage?
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>>558867212
Spread gun aids and dont get jumped on. He's not that complicated when you reach critical item mass really.
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I've been working through the early heroes in "release order" to try and learn them all and why the fuck does it seem like they're all underpowered dogshit
My latest one is Lady Geist and it's like yeah okay she does some nuke damage but I feel like she can't decide if she's a hybrid DPS or a tank mage or what the fuck
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honeymoon phase is over, the games dying day by day.

welcome to 40k peak in a month
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>>558867339
ywnbaw
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>>558867339
ywnbaw
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>>558867339
ywnbaw
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>>558867339
ywnbaw
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>>558867339
ywnbaw
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>>558867339
ywnbaw
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>>558867315
abrams geist shiv haze warden are the 5 best of the og cast, if you can't get geist to work it's a build issue, build gun around radiant regen, berserker and spellslinger
>>558867339
no but if they take a fucking month or longer to nerf celeste the player count is 100% gonna crash
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I feel like I do okay in the lane phase and mid game but late game I simply get one shot by everything and can't compete.
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>>558867339
ywnbaw
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>Gun Viscous taken out back and shot
>Cube no longer removes ultimate debuffs
>People might parry/counterspell the punches
How do you build the GOOner in the big 26?
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>>558867503
The last set of heroes added were really not healthy for the design of the game. Obscene mobility, extremely forgiving kits, Celeste is absolutely disgusting in every way especially, same with Rem and Apollo. At least you can rush down faggot Graves players, and Silver is bad unless fed, which is still really bad design.
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>>558867315
>Lady Geist
weirdly enough she is actually a initiator like abrams, and billy thanks to how tanky she is along with the healing
her problem is while the gun does a billion damage, its a slow firing revolver so you have to be incredibly accurate with it to get her to perform like the others.
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>>558860126
if he walljumps before getting hooked he survives
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>>558867628
for me it's dx11, dlss and restarting the game after every match
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>>558867616
Punch build plus utility items to take advantage of transcendent cooldown
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>>558867521
Ur spellbreaker vro?
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Who builds capacitor now?
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>>558867339
ywnbaw
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>>558867315
Some of them have definitely been powercrept/overnerfed a bit, but there's plenty that still hang just fine.
I'd say only Wraith, Vin, Paradox, Kelvin and Infernus are actually bad in their current states.
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It bothers me that Midboss has a big eye like a boss in a Zelda game but it doesn't matter where you hit it, it all does the same damage.
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>>558867910
imagine the smell
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>>558867959
Honestly I'd rather they just put Roshan in there as a placeholder.
The ugly ass alien creeps and mid boss are the ugliest thing on the map by a mile
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>>558867732
Vyper, gun Ivy, Haze/Wraith if you trust Parzelion
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>>558867616
Punch build still
The parry timing is difficult especially in the middle of a fight so many people struggle, and even if they could you can still use punches for movement.
He's probably the most mobile character in the game right now
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>>558868308
punch build funny
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hello im retard here first time playing a moba like
how to know when i should build gun defense or spirit defence?
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>>558868424
You have 12 slots, buy 6 of each
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>>558868424
if the enemy team has more purple items then build to resist spirit more. If the enemy team has more orange items, build for weapon resist.
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>>558868424
Hold tab in game, Look at the investment bars on the other team under their portraits
Mostly orange build bullet res
Mostly purple build spirit res
If its balanced then build against whoever on their team is getting the most kills and farm.
When you learn all the items and shit, you can start building against them more efficiently, but this is where you start
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>>558868424
Look at your enemies items and see if more of them are building gun or spirit.
Look at your damage recap (hold tab and click the little icon on the right of the screen) to see what kind of damage you're taking when you die.
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I thought 6stacking at this rank wasn't allowed
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how do i actually fucking build GRAVES
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>>558868529
>>558868538
>>558868547
>>558868586
oh i get it now thanks :) have fun next match anons
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>>558868424
If you press tab, amongst the many things the game informs you about, on the right is a pop-up telling you what the source of your damage has been, orange for weapon purple for spirit.
You can adjust it for timeframe too to see recent sources, so if you get oneshot you can check to see what damage type got you and buy or queue items to resist it.
So if you're unsure what damage type is getting you, you can always check. I think it'll even account for how much is being resisted.
Btw, you can also set it to tell you your outgoing damage if you wanted to test cards and see how much damage they do.
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>>558868646
>have fun next match anons
How dare you
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>>558868356
I've had some fun juggling people with it, though if it's parryable I wish it did a touch more damage or something. A lot of weapon damage boosting cards don't work properly with it even though its damage scales with weapon damage.
For example both of the range based damage boosting cards do fuck all for it when acquired.
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>>558868616
Why would it not be allowed to play with your friends?
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is there no better feeling than winning a game where you were getting absolutely shit on for the first half
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REMINDER
if you lose, you are the only constant
but if you win, it means you got carried, the enemy team fed, or you got lucky
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>>558867339
if you go on r*ddit or t*ktok you'll see new players complaining that they're getting shit on and not having fun so this isn't surprising
people are already saying this game isn't for them and the game isn't even close to being finished, valve needs to fix their shit matchmaking before they kneecap their playerbase
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>>558869006
i know i'm bad, i play for fun on mina and graveas and to say silly things in vc with frens and laugh about stuff
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mina is such a boosted character
she can get herself into horrible situations then get out for fucking free
genuinely why do they keep making characters that reward retard plays
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>see teammate right next to enemy
>i ping to go in
>i fight
>teammate doesnt join despite full hp and right next to us
>i die, enemy is 30% health
>NOW teammate jumps in
>he dies
why does this happen so often
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>>558869107
to attract more players
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>>558868926
Yes, actually
>team fights our blue base guardians
>it's 25 minutes and they are 40k up
>we obviously all die
>one shrine gone
>they go midboss
>team practically is giving up
>calico(me) and abrams set up for midboss with 0 communication
>they don't watch entrances
>slash into out
>parry 4 people, take first rejuv
>abrams ults, knocks 6 people up
>he gets second and third rejuv
>we fucking end immediately after two more teamfights
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how do you update mods in the mod manager? there's no update button and they don't auto-update either so i have to keep deleting them and downloading them again for newer versions
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>>558867628
This got deleted.
>>558869065
This stays up.
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>>558869241
I wish I'd recorded it but I was watching a friend(drifter) play earlier today and he was literally getting jumped by the enemy top player(doorman) ontop of one of his own teammates(seven), like literally their projectiles are whizzing past the seven, and the seven still ignored ALL off this to poke the tier three creeps and ignore the fight.
It was fucking insane, he wasn't even using his abilities to farm the creeps just shooting them.
He was also building ult seven which is always a recipe for a throw.
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>>558869685
shut up, wannabe janny
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>>558869738
That's the point. It's literally nothing. Imagine looking at Mina and be like ''SHES NAKED''
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>>558869837
>imagine looking at mina
imagine being on the ground and looking up at graves and she calls you "pathetic" and tells you to lick her boots clean and if you do a good job you can clean her dirty, sweaty, feet with your tongue after.
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>>558869965
my friend says this in vc
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>Took out all the guardians on left and right lanes by myself
>Everyone is kill farming in the middle
>Get called useless because I have 0 kills
>Everyone on the team agrees
>I am in the enemy base alone trying to kill the shrines and have them both 3/4 dead
>We still lose
I guess kills are more important...
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what is this new red circle next to abrams
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>>558869965
imagine looking at this pic and be like ''SHES NAKED''
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>>558870091
Damage falloff indicator.
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>>558870116
sweet thanks
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>>558870091
>stockings squeezing the thighs
i'm drooling
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>>558870036
>kills are more important
How were you doing in terms of souls? That's the true metric of victory in this game.
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>>558855581
>Yuri OP
Nice
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>>558870236
In the middle. Both teams had people with more and less.
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Imagine looking at paradox and she puts down the wall
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>>558870091
>>558870116
Hey how come I don't have this?
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>>558870236
For someone solo pushing multiple lanes, that's kind of bad yeah
You should have had a shitload of souls from getting to farm so many unopposed, not ended up middle of the pack
Were you smashing your boxes, killing your tier 1 camps, smacking your sinner's?
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>>558870523
its a hack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hlSYZ-JiZo
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>>558870547
meant for
>>558870369
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>>558870523
It's dynamic based on your current weapon, his is only showing red at that range because of Graves tiny pissbeam.
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I did it bros..
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>>558867619
the last set of heroes were designed to be healthy for the game by being braindead easy so new players could latch on to them
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i've been playing deadlock all night oh boy i wonder what's been happening in the world
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>>558871405
congrats bro
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I LOVE playing Rem!
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>>558871405
dishonest kevin
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>>558871915
>trophy collector
kinda based just for the flex
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>>558871915
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>>558872204
ywnbaw
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>>558872128
trophy collector is a sprint boots upgrade
it's valid if you're playing someone who would want increased out of battle sprint speed more than stamina, like rem with his jew tunnels
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>>558871915
>>558872128
TC is whack on Rem you don't need the souls
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>>558872292
Why does REM get those Mexican tunnels anyway?
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>>558872417
it's his birthright, calico was not there first
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Since it's people's first instinct to dash after getting swapped by paradox, even if it's a close swap to get past the wall, why shouldn't you build lifestrike/spirit snatch/melee charge on her?
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I don't think yoshitard is taking bullet velocity into account when balancing heroes. Just look at nigfernus, it would be so much easier to balance him if he had a low bullet velocity. But no, he's a hitscan m1gger.
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>>558872204
>4 people on the enemy team have a kill streak 15 minutes in
And this is why surrenders should be an option
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>>558872803
But we won.
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>>558869260
Nigger that IS winningnafter getting shit on in the first half
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>>558867910
Apollo does the same thing to Ivy
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>get ranked alchemist 1 after playing a few days ago
>open game again today
>arcanist 1
>lose several in a row
>back to alchemist 1
Why'd they do that to me?
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We need another hero with minions, who can follow him.
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>>558873268
get adjusted
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>2026
>no Invoker hero
>no Meepo hero
>no Tinker hero
deadtards...
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>>558870091
Post the mod link.
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how can you be oracle with this many hours
he was so bad, constantly playing for kda and being afraid of everything
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So when are we gutting celeste in proportion to the amount of effort she takes
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what should I do as viscous? I want to some pointers for how things I should focus on
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>>558872204
>Tagalong duration resets with every transfer
That's fucking cancer.
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If they are not going to gut Apollo/Celeste's kit then Slowing Hex needs to be buffed.
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>>558873556
he probably just doesn't care. instead of ranked and unranked we got street brawl. so now people who don't care infest 2 modes.
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my rank keeps climbing im getting scared
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>>558873556
oracle is ritualist before the rank inflation
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Lost to this build, geuss the hero.
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>>558873875
How shitty are ascendant games than if the entire rankpool is concentrated their while every other division is just fucking herald. Do high mmrs even queue anymore? I can't imagine games being very fun win or lose.
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>>558873556
kek I thought this is me but I only have 1954 hours

the answer is simple - maybe he was playing as a new characters or he had a shit teammate in lane
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>>558872204
why do they keep making characters that let retards who overextend get out for free
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>>558872204
What the fuck this little rat is more broken then I can even realise playing against them. How the fuck are they all so shit at the game when you can do that?
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>>558874006
>Do high mmrs even queue anymore?
They do, but only on their smurf accounts
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>>558873919
Kelvin?
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>>558873919
lets see what this DICK can do
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>>558873662
>Characters so cancer targeting them leads to Mina nerfs
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Mmr in this game is so whack
>oracle/phantom last year
>buddy wants to learn game so i play with him
>he is a league player. Great micro. Insanely bad mental and macro. Like I have to pilot him and me at the same time
>throws and rage quits constantly even to my detriment as I am still in the game
>drop from oracle to initiate because EVERYGAME he leaves or feeds and then leaves. So team mates do too
>come back from the year long hiatus to play
>start from seeker and forced to climb back up (none of the sick rank adjustments hit my account nor the new player immediately starting in archon oracle stories)
After being on both sides of the spectrum I can comfortably say this shit is fucking gay. 70% wr and won’t climb for multiple days. Then a weird burst of Mmr. Losing 1 game after a win streak tanks Mmr. Playing in ranks 2-3 above your own do nothing for your Mmr but losing in them will still reduce your rank. I’d like to say that maybe I have a special case and should make a forum post. But maybe this is normal? I should be back to high oracle/phantom in roughly 2 weeks if the pace continues (I’m in emissary now)

Anyone else experience shit like this? Also, I hear about new players or bad players not being able to drop from oracle and phantom and I wonder if that’s the inverse. And also making climbing harder. Ps. Supports in low rank are so ass cheeks. You HAVE to play a carry if you want to climb. But when you get a little higher you can play a support and just pick the one other competent person on your team and just enable them and shut down enemy team with actives. Essentially every game is 2v2v8
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Had an unfortunate game last night with what I can imagine were unironic basedteens or terminally online highschoolers. They wouldn't shut up saying shit like goyim, israel, unc, chopped, etc... After a certain point I decided these losers didn't deserve to win so I called them all zoomers and proceeded to throw. Then I muted them and pretended to not hear them. My buddy I was with said they started yelling when we lost. God it was the funniest fucking thing.
If any of you bozos are here, I wish nothing but the worst on you. I hope you get prostate cancer.
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>>558874687
shut up unc you're such a fatty now frick off!!!
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>>558874687
unc is mad that zoomerGODS dont wanna die for Israel
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>>558874762
Hello?
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>>558874591
Don't forget that oracle players all got bumped up to phantom and ascendant in the resets and the current oracle players are former emissary and archon players
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>commit 0/14
>this build
>leave
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>>558874868
sorry bad service around here now read it again
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I think midboss doesn't quite give enough advantages if you manage to take it, what if it also reduced the hp of your buildings by 50%?
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>>558874868
Lmao I just saw the news. Oh man you guys are gonna get drafted.
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>>558874963
i was about to complain about him nigga you stole it
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Why is Lash so hot
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>>558874007
nah he was 16/1 as apollo but he was 10/0 in lane so he was afk for 30 mins farming jungle
people are so afraid of playing more aggro
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>Patron has a voiceline for apollo building support and healing
is there one for every character?
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>>558875141
Here COMES The Lash!
>>558875491
Yes
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>>558875246
Part of that is the comeback mechanic. If you truly are the only human on your team and you have a soul bounty, and you lose it, god forbid to their carry before you can generate enough map pressure to lead to the game inevitably ending with a win. It’s over for you. You have to just play super selfish. Jump into a fight between farming to essentially steal kills or play clean up then go right back to farming and pushing. It’s hard not to play selfishly if you’re in an elo you’re well above and the others on your team can’t be trusted. The problem is when they’re selfish AND don’t play the macro game.
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>>558874259
Man I hate this faggotry, bet they also stack with other smurfs.
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>>558875491
Bebop... ugh I can heal you
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Why have I seen people claim Billy is latinx or black when you can see his paper white human arms right there
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>>558875491
Yes. Why wouldn't you record it it's better to catch the edgecase than to ignore it and pretend no one but dynamo and kelvin can build rescue beam.
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i saw dream i was good Lash
is it my vision to play as Lash? how do be pro Lash?
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>>558875718
Stop giving a shit about what Twitter subhuman roleplayers that don't actually play the game think
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>>558875762
They were posts on 4chud
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>>558875752
>how do be pro Lash?
Max spirit, stamina mastery, unstoppable, refresher, ult people into your team, combo them with slam and flog, if your team has a Dynamo coordinate with him and chuck people into him for epic 6 man ults
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>>558871405
Welcome to true elo hell.
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i hate doorman niggers
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>>558875589
>Big fucking fist thing
Made me audibly laugh, I really like having one on my team when I play Dynamo.
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>>558875673
>9 out of 10 matches I play have smurfs in them
>report them
>get my reports disabled for 3 days, not because they're false reports but just because they don't like the sheer amount I do
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>>558875793
no they weren't, and if they were then they was obvious bait you fell for
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I guess that confirms it's a moba-wide phenomenon where:
>you kill the enemy, by the time you reach the tower they already respawned or there's three guys to compensate for the loss
>you die, your whole jungle and lane has been cleared
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>>558875885
>guntard
yeah
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>>558874318
>>558874328
Apollo
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Daughter
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>>558875885
>getting buck broken by a gun doorman
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>>558873556
MM is a lottery
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My first Venator game didn't go so well. How do you make use of his shotgun?
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>>558876120
Yeah. It's only worth killing after killing the tower I've noticed or if you're just about to kill the tower or if you're just trying to gain souls and don't care for the objective.
I've lost matches and won matches where a guardian wasn't even scratched but the carry was just getting a fuckton of souls and killed the guardian by late game to gain easy access to the jungle.
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Warden's gun sucks, what is it even supposed to be
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>>558876208
exclusively has anal sex with ixian men
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>get put in high ritualist
>keep losing
>every time my rank drops to low ritualist it gets adjusted
>every time it gets adjusted it puts me back in high ritualist
man
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dude what if we made a fucking rat that could go invulnerable and also make anyone unkillable lmao!!!
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>>558876427
A beanbag launcher used by riot police
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>>558875885
>i hate (character)
>look inside
>gun build
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>>558876393
it's just so fucking frustrating, there's always a timing difference where they always get the fucking jungle respawn while you're left in the dirt
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>>558876427
it's uhhhhhh......
IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD!
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>>558876374
Literally just luck with positioning and someone being near enough to a wall
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>>558873556
I lose more often than I win but my rank continues to steadily go up
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i'm noticing that the most god awful dogshit matches are always on the chicago server
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>>558876730
That means you are doing well and everyone else sucks and you should fuck their mothers
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would graves get mad if you sucked her schnoz?
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>>558876801
Probably on account of all of those niggers over there.
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>>558876892
these are all terrible fucking regions with the worst people possible
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>>558876730
This is why I keep telling people to not worry about rank, just perform well and the constant rank resets will carry you up
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https://gamebanana.com/mods/656569
whoah
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>>558877042
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>>558876996
>all failed states and/or southern culture/southern culture adjacent states
noticing...
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>>558876374
hope someone is dumb enough to get a wall behind them and be close to you at the same time.
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>>558877140
deadlock mod manager lets you see nsfw without a gamebanana account
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>>558877140
other website has it visible without account
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>>558877250
I will now play your game
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amazing i have 40 fps in games now
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>>558877395
based
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>>558877395
It looks kinda bad imo but is the best option gooners have rightnow.
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>DOWN HERE
>I AM KING!
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>>558877152
schizo
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>>558860901
>smurf can do dumb shit against people who are literally new to the game
WOW, INSANE
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>>558877578
Hahahaha fuck that ginger bitch
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>make bunny graves
>''look guys i made overly sexual bunny suits of other characters, i'm not gonna goon out on graves lol''
>bunny suits are sexual and were CREATED specifically for playboy
>someone downloads the mod and removes the shorts

this modder is 100% certified retarded
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>>558877828
link??
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>48.67%
funny how I have exactly the same winrate on geist
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>>558877828
ummm graves is literally 17.999 years old, this is super problematic...
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>>558877152
Wiggers are a blight on online gaming and were born with the wrong skincolour, they never improve because " 'hyuuk 'hyuuk at least i m not a neegaar". The nogs are so shit because they took to the 'hwhites culture down south and migrated north with it. Truely a cancer on this country since independence. Exceptions exist of course but over all they are the trashiest people on average in this country.
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>finish a game of brool
>still feel the need to play again
>and again
>and again
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>>558877961
Legal in New York (Today).
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>>558877961
she is 18, i'm pointing out retarded mental gymnastics of the modder who doesn't seem to have a clue what bunny suits are (while making super horny ones of male characters), you can't say you won't goon her out and then put her in the ''bunny suit''. meanwhile someone can just yank the mod and remove the shorts, rendering all the modder did to obscure the ''sexy'' part
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Anyone else have really bad matches recently? Had three games that went like this three in a row pretty demoralizing.
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>>558878191
The bro prob has a copy of the bunn suit without shorts but only uploads the shorts version. These people tend to be actual literal pedophiles (ie prepubescent children and not teens) but they moral fag constantly so no one will suspect them until they get found grooming someone on social media or outright caught trying to solicite sex with a minor. It's like they are trying to normalise real pedophilia by suggesting teens are children due to male sexual attraction to such girls being normal.
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>>558878385
You make this? I love it.
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>>558878632
nah
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>winning lane
>15% packet loss out of nowhere for the rest of the game
that was not pleasant
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>>558855710
you can post the whole thing bro, mods don't care about ass
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I don't mind Vyper turning into an Xcom snake but can we at least keep the pants or something? I don't want to see her gross snussy
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>>558878485
UMH SHUT UP DIDDY EPSTEIN DID YOU DARE FIND A 18 YEAR OLD ATTRACTIVE? THAT'S LIKE... ICKY AND GROSS!
they all talk like this for some reason its so fucking gay. You can bet your ass they have a discord server where they groom children too, every single time
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i cant believe lash is a real character what a horribly over powered design
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>>558878485
honestly i wouldn't be surprised if he ship graves with older character from the cast, all while moralfagging to others about muh sexualisation

>>558878793
i feel bad for the servers that let him in honeslty
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>>558878817
>Buy Counterspell and some spirit res
>Don't have to worry about the Lash anymore
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>>558878793
fr age gap is LE GROSS
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>>558878241
Literally every single loss my entire team has double digit deaths, they don't build counter (active) items, they don't know about 5m buff, sinners. Every victory is a brutal stomp. Emissary

I hope either matchmaking is fixed or I can get out of noob elo so my teammates will actually build knockdown/curse with me.
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>>558878912
>just have 30k souls
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>>558878947
>i buy counter items but ONLY ONLY ONLY after i finish my entire left to right build
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>>558878708
I'm trying to imagine what the hell a snake would wear for pants with late industrial technology that wouldn't make natural movement impossible; And no magic because that's gay.
>>558878793
Yeah the world is so hypocritical and evil "liberalism" and "conservativeism" is just the same schlock and it feels like no one stands for anything anymore but their own greed and decadence passing policy after policy to maintain the façade that they are morally righteous.
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>>558878947
6.4k at most. Could probably do it cheaper too. Thats just counterspell + spirit resistance, and both of use have broad useage against many diferent heroes
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>lost multiple games back to back as ivy where i solo took 2 walkers
i need a break, the game is actually starting to get to me. I watched my pussy ass team walk into base from blue walker as i solo defended it against 4 attackers... AS IVY. WHERE IS MY SILVER? OH YEAH SHOOTING FROM BASE GUARDIANS
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>>558877828
that looks so bad and low quality, the only hq mods made so far is the gooner graves mod, the holliday remodel and the yamato remodel
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playing celeste kind of ruined the game for me, nobody is as fun to move with
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>>558878947
greens are extremely flexible and if your options in the game are get counterspell or don't and die to lash ults every time he's in your vicinity the choice is obvious

but just for the rest of your itemization you can easily fit counter items earlier into your build as part of your 4.8k spike like slowing hex rather than the 1600 purple you were going to get instead
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>>558879250
The only mods I've ever considered are that Yamato one and picrel. But I can't figure out what picrel actually is so its not happening.
People who fortnite mod should be banned from the game for life.
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>>558879139
>>558879412
i buy spirit breaker and plated armor every match
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Been trying active reload on mirage instead of qsr, and I like it.
Lets me purchase a different counter purple (slowing hex, spirit sap or suppressor usually) for the 4.8k spike and it doesn't force me to choose between an instant reload and popping my mark stacks or doing a long reload and keeping them. It coming with a bit of sustain is nice for farmin too.
It is unfortunate though in the late game that it has no upgrade, at which point youd rather have merc mag anyway on raw stats.
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>bro what if graves could just plop her ult down 6 kilometers away and you had to wade through exploding zombies to destroy it bro
who the fuck designed these new heroes
these don't belong in fucking pvp games
this is some retarded ass pve design
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Every time I have a Celeste on my team they make her look like the worst character in the game
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>>558878938
>noob elo
I'm in oracle/phantom and this shit still happens
Mind you thats still shitter elo, but it doesn't get better
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>>558860901
If a Vyper on my team ever does this I'm just afking in base. I'm not playing a game where I get 0 lane creeps to farm for the first 10 minutes.
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>>558879067
>I'm trying to imagine what the hell a snake would wear for pants with late industrial technology
A skirt with suspenders, though this would probably look retarded. Maybe she'll just have some equipment like a knife belt, ammo holsters and other things like that though it doesn't exactly sell her personality as a jailbreaker.
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>>558879887
Just make the health of the skulls and undead goons decay over time and the problem is solved.
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>>558878938
It only gets better if you full stack. SoloQ is dead.
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>>558879067
>I'm trying to imagine what the hell a snake would wear for pants with late industrial technology
A tube top.
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>>558880038
>>558880358
That's just avoiding the pants issue entirely, but I suppose that's the only real option.
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>>558878947
Here's the 10 best mathematically proven best Deadlock items, notice that 8/10 of them are greens, this is why you should eat broccoli
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>accidentally drop into low prio queue
>it's literally all russians
what the fuck is going on over there
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>>558880436
the only way she'd be able to wear pants is if they were dynamo-sized and she fit in a single pantshole
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>>558880480
Yeah and it sucks, those aren't fun items like the damage ones
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>>558880586
So that's where they all are. I was wondering why I hadn't seen many Russians lately in EU. They've all made a permanent home for themselves in low prio.

This might be the thing to actually get me to self censor bad words, to keep me out of Russian low prio.
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Playing Lash is pain, it's super fun up until the entire enemy team buys counterspells and knockdowns just for you
>just buy debuff reducer/dispel magic/unstoppable etc
I know, still a pain in the ass. Having to completely halt buying the items you actually want to buy those ones just to survive being seen by the enemy team feels horrible and I hate it.
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I feel like counterspell will get nerfed soon, at a certain point most of the lobbies will be able to consistently parry ults like Lash, Pocket and Rem
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>>558878685
HOLY MOLY
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>>558880781
dooood stop killing me
dooood stop ccing me
dooood stop item countering me
play a different game nigga
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adding an extra person to the team in a moba was a real genius idea
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>>558880480
Both spirit and gun builds buy greens, so they are represented twice as much.

Hope this helps!
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>>558879887
what if instead of overextending and killing it you just killed the zombies as they walk up to you? you don't even have to sit there and babysit the lane for the whole duration, just come defend your walkers when they actually get close and farm your neutral camps/boxes in the mean time. they push the trooper waves to you and she doesn't even get any of the money, it's a fucking dream come true for sidelane hypercarries that need farm.
the ones that just ult to push lanes are wasting it, that shit puts out immense pressure during fights.
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>>558878938
some people dont bother with counter items in high elo either when people become "knowers" it becomes more of an ego thing than a knowledge thing and you still run into people having bad games and eating shit all the same
>>558879745
spellbreaker is very good right now but plated isnt really an every-game buy imo unless you're specifically dying to m1ggers with hit effects like wraith or haze, metal skin does the job perfectly well
dont believe the memes, drifter in pic rel was a huge rapist and was basically forced to buy curse to deal with metal skin making him useless
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>>558880601
>Counterspell
>Enduring Speed
>Warp Stone
>Stamina Mastery
>Not fun
You're just boring, movement and active outplay is very fun.
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>>558880976
play brool
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>>558880904
You're 100% right and correct, I just wanted to rant, sorry.
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Mo & Krill shouldn't exist
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>>558881051
oh fair enough sorry i thought you were complaining about the game
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>>558881143
a necessary evil if they add draft.
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sometimes i dream that i hit every carbine
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Don't know if it's a bug or not but I had a teammate Dynamo die to a super delayed Apollo ult that took like 6 seconds to fire off after the sound, anyone else seen that?
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>>558880781
You need to learn how to enjoy countering these cunts who think they can stop you.
You should be feeling joy when you purge that knockdown
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>>558881008
>just kill the 5 billion health zombies that explode for 50000 damage bro
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>>558881165
Nah you're good, if anything I should take it as a compliment that they're willing to spend lots of souls because they see me as enough of a threat or maybe just because I'm playing The Laaashâ„¢
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>>558876374
No, seriously, how do you play Venator?
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Don't worry guys, just a few more unintuitive mechanics and movement tech and the knowledge barrier for new players will be so massive that they will uninstall after 5 minutes of playing!
And this is just in the beta, just wait until this game releases with 60+ heroes and even more useless shit to filter beginners!
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>>558881387
Lash is obnoxious to play against, then becomes bearable with counter items until he gets unstoppable then it's obnoxious again.
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>>558881395
just b urself
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>>558881212
they are never adding draft
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>>558881334
you mean 500 health? the ones that walk in a straight line at you and get slowed when you shoot them?
how retarded are you that you let them explode on you?
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>>558881395
I was going to laugh at you for being outdamaged by a Paige but holy fuck a glass cannon haze got outdamaged by Paige lmao
Don't try playing him as a close range character, playing him as a melee Venator is pretty complicated if you're unfamiliar with him. Try keeping a certain distance and use traps/shotgun to get people away from you, and ult when you see the enemy is retreating
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what are some characters that *are* fun to fight against?
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Bebop: Israel
Lash: Iran
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>>558881797
DING DONG THE ROBOBITCH IS DEAD
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archmother: kristi noem
hidden king: ayatollah khameni
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>>558881797
two brown countries?
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>>558881745
seven.
his head is just so delectable to shoot and all of his moves are extremely predictable and counterable.
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>>558881745
Dynamo, I just love how easy it is to shoot him, and if I get solo black holed its like, whatever almost worth it for the cooldown. If I get stuck in like a 3 man+ blackhole then its my own fault for clumping on my team mates anyway
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>>558881497
what if they made is ground stomp count as a normal melee, meaning you could parry it: would that make him more fun to fight?
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How many /dlg/ posters are going to get drafted and die in iran?
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How to counter a fed Venator as Warden. Also speaking of him, since a few days you can hear whispers while playing Warden
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>>558881927
we're too old

we're finally adults, too old to get drafted to die for israel
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>>558881956
You're probably hearing cultist sacrifice go off cooldown
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>>558881956
Disarming Hex + dispel magic for the anti heal
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>>558881927
I was killing time on google maps a week ago and explored iran, and was amazed at how ugly the entire place looks. I'm sure the nature is good but wow the cities are fucking ugly
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>>558881745
doorman, dynamo, ivy, sinclair, viscous, idk
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>>558882113
who the fuck are you playing as to find those satan disciples fun to play against?
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>>558882031
oh right I have this item, sad I thought something cool would happen for him.
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>>558882113
You have not played against a good doorman that has it in for you.
There is no less fun way to play deadlock than from inside the baroness, twice in a row
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why does victor buy infuser but not leech as well
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>>558882113
It took me a while to realize this is bait and I was midway through a strongly worded post
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>>558882185
Don't worry Yoshi will definitely read this post and will do it on the runup to the release of his updated model
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>>558881745
Mina, Apollo, Sinclair, Mcginnis, Doorman, Rem, Bebop
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>>558882297
tell yoshi to send me people not feeding a venator when am finally able to have a positive kda
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>use shotgun on venator
>they either move 2 cms or they bounce off the fucking wall
nice ability valve
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>>558877983
>mods
based
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>>558882176
victor
>>558882197
I have but doorman doesn't feel busted in any way so it's mostly player skill
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>>558882450
Too late, your boon was already granted
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>>558882216
I think leech SUCKS
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>>558882216
actives are better, leech is kinda shitty since it got nerfed years ago. still useful if ahead but then everything is useful when ahead...
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Leech should also provide lifesteal for melee damage
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>>558882216
Leech is terrible unless you're gun hybrid
Infuser + Mystic Reverb is my go to combo since you get the benefits of infuser while having good lifesteal without the active. Plus extra damage and slowing frm Reverb.
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Why do people talk shit about their teammates even on eternus?
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you can tell goober genuinely thinks he deserves to live
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>>558882971
cause if they play bad you will lose
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>>558882971
highranking players don't want to play due to state of the game+matchmaking so ranks are gradually being inflated. those that stay are usually smurfing in some gay stack.
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>>558881395
Try these builds: 448759, 449519, (m1 carry / grenade) 481594, 497608 (melee)
and 456489 (grenade but has some troll 4fun choices in it)

For the shotgun, you want the knockback angle to be perpendicular with the wall as much as you can for max range stuns, otherwise people slide along the wall a lot.
His strength is his versatility in both builds and playstyle, you generally want to play from a typical carry range until people are focused on you and then kite them into hallways and buildings, he thrives in tight spaces and mid boss.
Your ult is good at killing carries or spirit nukers that are raping your team before they have a lot of green investment

Lean more Nade + AoE if you need antiheal, buy things like opening rounds/sharpshooter to delete fed carries, invest in more M1 T4s if you don't have a gun carry on your team, or melee when you're lacking frontliners. I can't stress enough that you really want to leverage his flexibility if you want to do consistently well on him
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>enemy shiv says "pause"
>no one pauses
>he's standing in the middle of a lane as three of us are pushing it
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>>558881395
>15
Jesus Christ and I thought I was having a hardtime with him
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I believe the next hero update has a very high chance of adding a female ixian
We just need to decide what her skin color should be
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>>558883276
Purple
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>>558883276
Purple
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>>558883276
pink
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>>558879027
...You're saying this like it's a bad thing...
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>>558883145
Thanks.
>449519
I was using that for this match.
>481594
And this I was using for the previous match.
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What if female ixians are futas and it's the males that get ass preggers
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I have lost 12 games in a row.
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>>558882216
Leech was pretty good when capacitor removed buffs and everyone was running it, but now you get way more healing from infuser. Double dipping is also pretty overkill, like other anon said you can just run reverb on his 3 instead.
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>>558883550
I have also not been having a lot of luck lately.
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i just dont want to live near ixians
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>>558881024
I don't get why people don't buy metal skin more. It's just such a fuck you to every gun character for only 3200.
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>>558883684
>support player
>most wins on rerm
bretty much how it goes
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>>558883276
Yellow
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>>558883763
actives are ICKYYYYYY!!!1!!!
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>>558883763
I remember a point where it was bad so I forget it's an item sometimes, maybe I'm just mixing it up with return fire...
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what are the most lanejanny characters in the game right now aside from graves? everyone else on the team just wants to BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL so i'm stuck being a lanejanny all the time
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>>558883684
why are you playing doorman lmao
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I feel like I do no damage, no support, my abilities are never up, I always miss my jelly but, somehow the match ends like this
Any tips for him?
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>>558883978
Geist, Seven, Haze, and really any other scaling carry.
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>>558883979
Doorway is the most fun ability in the game. Even if I'm not good as him, it's still fun, and it's not like I'll get better by not playing as him.
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>>558884036
No Viscous has just been nerfed into the ground repeatedly. Punch Viscous will probably get nerfed soon too even though it's not good, they don't want the hero doing anything.
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>>558884064
but everytime i play solo with randoms that want to brool they all play shit like haze and seven and wraith and they go brool in the middle or jungle...
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>>558884245
Yeah they're retarded. You can easily make oracle just with being a solid lane janny who shows up with your powerspikes to midboss/shrine fights.
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>>558866614
Old drifter legit looked like he was gonna morb all over the place
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>>558881614
>>558881395
Anotha one
This hero is simply not balanced. I don't understand how people struggle with him. I literally have the worst aim of anybody that plays Deadlock in the entire world and I have a 65% winrate in 35 games.
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>>558863881
Rem hitting someone in the face with his pillow, looped and sped up to incredibly high speeds.
Also make the victim look either tired of his bullshit or having their face muffled by the pillow
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Silver is easily the weakest new hero and requires the most work to be viable. I'm saying this as someone who mained her since day 1 and made it into Oracle with her. Also her build variety sucks ass.
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Why does the whole team come chase me down like they have me on a kill on sight list?
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>>558884335
He still does.
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Just reached 1000 hours in this unreleased game
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>>558884740
why is celeste white?
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>>558884797
i did too 5 months ago
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>>558874591
this is extremely close to my experience except
>played during initial invite rush
>awful go like 4w/20L
>start playing again from new heroes
>maintaing a 80%+ wr (average per match history page is 2/3/4 losses)
>75/15 on Silver
>have to play through every rank grinding games out
its driving me insane, all i read is people going from initiate 3 to oracle 5 after losing four times in a row and im grinding shitties into dirt trying to get to a real rank
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>>558873919
That's like 70k worth of souls. That's not a build.
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>>558884750
because you keep overextending
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>>558868646
Just remember to pay atention what items they actually bought. A mcginnis could be mostly orange despite going for spirit damage cuz she bought cultist sacrifice and a heroic aura for her turrets. Similarly, a gun dude might buy stuff like silence wave/disarm hex/knockdown to win duels better
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even when I farm jungle, boxes and waves I have less farm than everyone else
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>>558885023
Yeah and team spoonfed him it midgame by playing split constantly.
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>>558885098
>no matter how hard I think, my IQ is still lower than everyone's
sorry anon :(
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>>558885098
Skull issue.
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>>558883763
The general logic at least around here seems to be "if you get metal skin you just die after it runs out!" when that won't really happen in teamfights. If a m1gger is allowed to hold M1 on you for 4 seconds straight and they haven't been bursted to death or punished for it you were probably gonna lose that fight no matter what
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>>558872674
gun carries need high bullet velocity by default, infernus just has access to a shitload of spirit damage and insta win 1v1 debuffs in oil
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>>558885052
I don't though. I try to hide behind the rest of my team but they will rush right through them to come chase me.
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>>558885326
sure
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>>558885326
That just means it's a fagstack or you're the highest mmr dude on your team and they use those gay third party sites/programs.
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I've climbed from Alchemist to Emissary since coming back for the patch.
Granted Yoshi did gift me some ranks here and there with all his retarded matchmaking updates.
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>>558859932
vyper hates herself and lash loves himself so she's using his narcissism to live vicariously through him to the point of stalking

doesnt work real well because she's still a self-loathing con and he isn't interested at best and actually hates her at worst

also he's probably a faggot which is another stake to her heart when that hammer drops
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>>558885098
Kills and bags or you aren't doing what you said efficiently enough.
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>>558885463
You can tell some massive faggot wrote this post.
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REEEEEEM my chungy poo...my wumple rumpus...stop diving the melee paige...
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>>558883276
Blue. Red sucks
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>>558885561
Why would Lash write this post?
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>>558885463
>when that hammer drops
>implying character development will ever be a thing
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>>558885561
BEBOP CALM DOWN LASH ISN'T ACTUALLY HERE HE CAN'T HURT YOU BEBOP
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Was there a global rank adjustment in the last 24h or is it actually just lagging behind and getting updated whenever. I was hard stuck emissary 6 yesterday and now I'm archon 2 today. I even lost my last game.
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>>558879250
You forgot about 50 cent warden
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>>558885627
I wonder if she'll be hyper mobile too.
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>>558885616
>melee paige
do people actually do this
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>>558885780
didnt bebop whoop lash's ass?
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>>558885363
Yes I'm sure. I prefer to be behind tankier characters!
>>558885407
I am still very new to this game so I don't think I would even register on that.
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>>558885858
yeah I really want to replace warden's model with a PS2 model rip
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>>558886002
Oh they think you are a smurf, that's likely it then.
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>>558884753
Naah he's missing the morb beard
I kinda preferred him with it desu
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>>558886002
>retard probably plays some glass backliner
>"waaah why am I getting dove"
>gay reddit punctuation
faggot and bad lurk more before posting useless anecdotes thanks
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>3000ms
>zero conectivity issues outside deadlock
>take a 20 minute break
>5ms
yeah ok
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I fear there is no way he survives the eventual balance patch
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>>558886123
shutup mossad
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>>558886091
It's way more likely he is playing a squishy backline hero that people know hates being dived on and thrives on their team mates aborbing spells for them, coupled with his positioning or itemization being worse than he thinks
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>>558886019
The voicelines make it worth it
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>>558886209
I think he'll be fine if they just cut the buffs he got to his kits numbers in half.
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>>558886237
schizo
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>>558886365
we already know you are involved on this site.
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>>558876109
>egg
What the fuck does this mean?
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>>558886209
I don't care if he has a high WR, he's still the most balanced new hero and they shouldn't nerf him.
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>>558886450
>someone personally insults you
>response is "the jews are behind it"
you are schizo
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>>558886123
You're rude and I hope I get to kill you in a game soon.
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>>558886491
Tranny lingo.
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>>558886641
I don't care
>>>/pol/
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>>558886491
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>>558885172
It's fine!
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>>558886637
You're likely already a higher rank asuming he plays the game at all.
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>>558886767
it's sad knowing that I could have been as smart as Einstein and I just didn't want it bad enough
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>>558886501
I don't think he's balanced at all.
Celeste is stronger because she just has the most retarded ult in the game and is impossible to lock down with her movement. Rem is just fundamentally broken with his helpers so you could argue he's more OP than Venator just because of that but Venator is not that far behind them.
There's just nothing he doesn't do well. You go Gutshot early and you can dominate your lane if you land your stuns, get the blessed melee and you're a monster in the mid game, and then you can just transition into typical M1 shit so you hyperscale late.
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>>558886698
>Telling me to go to the Mossad funded board
No.
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>hear enemy Silver doing a sinner
>ult them, take the sinner for myself, spray a poster and leave before she's back from the Hotel California
God I love Doorman just for these retarded interactions
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>>558886885
then go to your local library and read a book
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>>558886980
Some guy has the vessel and close to the drop off ult him and then pick up the vessel walk 2 steps to drop it off. leave before that guy is out of his rage cage.
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>>558887050
That would be a good escape from the constant demoralisation on the internet.
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>>558886980
Stupid Doorman... Being so polite while you're being such a bully just makes it that much worse!
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@558887150
yeah maybe it will make you less ignorant and retarded too but I'm not holding my breath!
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>>558863869
The expansion on it makes it really good for doorman since that's a buff to your door area
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wish we had casual mode so i could make a retarded witchmail flask build
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streetbrawl should absolutely never put dynamo and lash on the same team
especially not when it doesnt offer counterspell a single fucking time jesus christ
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Why would Mossad be playing Deadlock?
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>>558887394
will you stop off topic posting you retarded schizo
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>enemy silver
>unkillable god with suspiciously good aim and being followed by her personal seal team six who always help her sustain and get kils
>me playing silver
>endlessly harassed by the enemy team with stuns, knock downs, disarms, high burst damage
>whenever I transform my team literally runs away from me and doesn't help me at all

very cool and fun gameplay
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>>558887479
>>558886237
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>>558886850
>impossible to lock down with her movement

so have you even bought slowing bullets before? or did you know point blank and slowing bullets stack? you could even add on slowing hex to triple fuck her over. and this isn't even anti celeste, it fucks over anyone without enduring speed or divers in general
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>>558886850
Celeste could very easily be nerfed into total uselessness like Vindicta
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>>558887465
because mossad and jews are everywhere and I'm a very smart boy for noooticing
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>>558887485
Just disarm her and/or warpstone and get out of the area before its too late
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i cant decide between picking mina or doorman to spend my time learning/maining, i find both incredibly fun and i understand i can queue as both, but i feel like theyre both pretty difficult heroes that require a more dedicated focus to improve on

any advice? heres a swan i painted as payment for your service
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>>558887465
Nah Mossad is too busy trying to summon their messiah
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>watch high rank mirage
>in late game team fights, they don't use any scarabs and hold tornado for escape and reposition
I see now, I had it all wrong
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>>558887687
ZAMN is she single?
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>>558887701
the archmother?
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I'm Victor, in the very beginning of the game. I have Extra Spirit and no other items. I have 22 spirit. I buy Improved Spirit, which should increase my spirit from 22 to 30. For some reason, instead I now have 34 spirit. If I sell Improved Spirit, I am once again having 22 spirit. What's going on?
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>>558887687
Doorman might be easier to learn but from my personal experience with Mina you are defacto the target by everyone on the enemy team. If you can out aim and finish games before they all get spellbreaker+counter items shes easier to win with because doorman is way overnnerfed and relies on being a utility guy afaik. If winning doesn't matter I'd say just queue both high prio or spam the one you like more.
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>>558886637
>>558886776
try me, I guarantee any fag unironically using exclamation points to convey excitement isn't any higher than seeker
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What am i missing about Graves?
She has high winrate, evberybody talks about her being strong, but i fail to see much of a preasure from her unless shes fed as fuck, no matter if its me, teammate, or the enemy.
Is it because im pisslow mmr wise or smth?
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>>558887687
You're more likely to actually get doorman since everyone wants to play Mina
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>>558887749
Yeah late game Mirage just needs his 3 and ricochet to have immense impact. The scarabs are so inconsequential that the time it takes to press 1 isn't worth it
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>>558887971
she's kinda like mcginnis where she needs positioning to not immediately get fucked, but she's a lot easier.
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>>558887913
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>>558887465
Because Bebop is their strongest soldier
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>>558888070
Right, I'm a dumbass. Thanks
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>>558887971
Nothing, shes kind of weak in lane if people can aim in your lobbies and you don't have a way to guarantee you can just suck them off. Likely just lategame pushing power, same as seven.
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>>558888050
I also had no idea that his gun's falloff was that good
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>>558875885
>The Doorman has begun his great work
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There is a rabbit in my game
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>>558888050
It's still probably worth throwing a scarab (maybe 2) at your primary target if its easy to hit just for the bullet shred in a teamfight.
Actively trying to use all 4 on separate targets is madness though
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>>558875885
Smurfing on his main is his reword for playing an mmr deflator.
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>>558887913
Boons, item bonuses, statues, sinners
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>>558887971
Grave mains don't want you to know this but the reason she has such a high WR is she can automatically get souls/denies during laning without needing to aim.
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>>558887687
Doorman got his kneecaps broken so he needs his entire kit to secure a kill now, Hes still incredibly fun just know you will not get to have fun lategame if its not ended ASAP as your damage will fall off the face of the earth unless you were gunman
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>>558887890
No the dajjal
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>>558887971
She's a macro hero, people that are struggling with her are the equivalent of people picking victor and then brooling nonstop and wondering why he's not very good.
Once she has her critical mass of items she saps a lot of your team's dmg output, becomes tanky and hard to kill while also exerting pressure with tombstone.

But unlike victor who isn't very threatening as he tries to reach critical mass graves can actually apply strong lane pressure that keeps your team divided and she's not without her own tools that are decently strong in early-mid skirmishes.
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Icefraud you fucking nigger, add Invoker, Ogre and Dark Willow to Deadlock immediately or I'll tell Israel to bomb your brown homeland
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>>558875885
>not even the optimal Gunman items
phew lad
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>>558888392
>>558887943
it does feel like they nerfed him crazy style, he's never even picked in Night Shift games anymore, and im guessing they havent hinted at actually buffing him in any meaningful way?
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>>558888392
Isn't Gunman also shit though?
>>558888512
I'll never understand why overnnerfed characters don't just get the last round of nerfs reverted; Besides dev ego.
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>>558887971
Early game lane pressure and late game debuff applier. In a chaotic teamfight, her skulls, zombies and a beam draining 50% of weapon damage from your team is pretty threatening, even if she isn't finishing off everyone.
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The baxter society got your number
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Wow Calico is such a fun character to fight against im so glad she exists
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>>558887465
Whatever character on the enemy team that's kicking my ass right now is a Mossad agent personally sent by Netanyahu to try to tilt me
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If I'm playing Doorman and Apollo ults, would putting a door at the path of his ult work?
I'm not patient/skilled/agile enough to test this
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>>558888392
Maybe it's just my low elo and people not building enough spirit res but Doorman's bell damage is actually crazy once you have your items, especially Mystic Reverb will just melt people during teamfights later on.
To be honest, I never felt like his damage being low is a problem at all outside the early laning phase unless you seriously fall off.
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>>558888761
AAAAIIEEEEEE
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>>558888863
Yes, (not so) fun fact I've also learned recently is that celeste's dumb nigger ult also bounces via doors.
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>play gun character
>streetbrawl offers nothing but useless purples
>play spirit character
>get nothing but useless oranges
this shit is so aids sometimes
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>>558888761
THE BAXTER SOCIETY SAVED MY LIFE
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EU stack?
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What kind of new characters do you want? I want a true minion controller character. I want to be able to take over and buff multiple little "armies" of troopers, jungle creeps, etc that follow you around and attack stuff for you.
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>>558888863
Funny enough I actually had this shit happen on accident earlier in the week. Yes he goes through the door
Another interaction I've found is that silver's jump ability in human form totally ignores the cart, which is a bit bullshit since it knocks Abrams' charge away just fine
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>>558889134
>Let's make an even more broken Rem and Graves
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>>558888968
run away bro

like

run away, the ball does no damage if it's not bouncing to anything
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>>558888576
>Isn't Gunman also shit though?
depends, his bullets still hit like a fright train its just they changed how his scaling works and their hitbox size which scared alot of people away from playing that style, grab echo shard and hollow their skulls while keeping them in a perpetual coma (the new items like recharging rush and ballistic enhancement weirdly sync well with Doormans kit)
>>558888512
It was the Drifter treatment where he won too much during his launch week so they sliced his ankles and called it a day
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>>558889041
I genuinely believe it's rigged. The amount of times I get no "good" items for who I am playing is crazy, then the next game all I get is good items. Yes I understand it's random, but it happens a suspicious amount. Just like when you're on the bad team full of retards and lose, you can guess with high accuracy your next game will be "the good team".
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>>558889134
someone healing by the dmg he does like Whitemane or Raegar from HOTS
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>>558889287
>t was the Drifter treatment where he won too much during his launch week so they sliced his ankles and called it a day

drifter stabilized to a 50% winrate after that, his only meaningful buff since then was making isolation 20m
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>>558889134
>instead of doing lots of things they just do everything
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>>558888913
>people not building enough spirit res
Spellbreaker alone nullifies a nice percentage of his damage since hes burst based, could do a juicy bell build and your screen says it does 800 damage and they walk away with like 50hp lost
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>>558889223
I'm the retarded balance nigger that makes these characters OP. I just think being able to go to a jungle camp and take them over to roam with you would be fun and interesting. They don't need to make the new characters overpowered. yet they do for some reason
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>>558888841
*does nothing*
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seeing a lot less of the new characters already
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>>558888841
>complaining about the one character with no CC at all
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I just have no idea how to counter some heroes
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>>558889648
which ones
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>>558889287
honestly it sounds like maybe Mina would be a better choice then, sure I might not get her as often but half of the dev team has a crush on her so she's never going to be bad
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>>558889392
I guess Doormans situation is a little worse then since they kept nerfing him
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Anyone having matchmaking issues? Just had two games back-to-back where the matchmaking system gave my team all spirit heroes and we all predictably lost since I'm in a elo where people actually counterbuy
Like how do they not have values to make sure you at least have one gun character I dunno but its fucked.
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>>558889686
alot of them usually they give me issues and i have no idea how to beat them like Seven and Abrams mostly 90% of the roster usually its purple damage that kills me
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>>558889797
buy enchanting emblem + spirit res.
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Whenever Paige says "I see Mina" or something, I momentarily think some some ethot just jumped on the mic and I'm annoyed until I remember her VA is just that unfitting.
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>enjoying a really long and intense Street Brawl
>enemy team gets two Prism Blasts and Eternal Gift
oh
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>>558889883
Paige has an awful voice yeah
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did someone make a youtube video doing the gay doorman spawn shit or what i feel like i see it so often now
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>>558889750
damn maybe you should get to an elo where people adjust their build to the situation lolbaby

also someone edit this into Mina
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>>558886980
it feels like people take more personal offence when getting cucked by Doorman
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>>558890150
Some characters don't get the choice to do that, like building full gun mina is literally troll.
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>>558890225
>counters celeste, apollo
>NOOOOOOO I DONT WANNA BUY IT
>REMOVE THEM FROM THE GAME INSTEAD
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>>558890119
>the gay doorman spawn shit
what are you talking about
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>>558890150
EVERYONE but pocket had a f-tier gun build at best
>Victor
>Celeste
>Mo
>Doorman
>Grey Talon
Please tell me what amazing gun builds these heroes have. Is gun mo gonna carry the lobby?
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>>558890119
why would you need a video for it? its not exactly a hard concept, spawn does high damage -> kidnap into spawn
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I'm a victor, I've got Greater Expansion (+35% ability range) and Ballistic Enchantment on Aura of Suffering (+30% ability range). The initial range of Aura of Suffering is 7.7m. 7.7*1.65=12.705. Yet, now its tooltip shows the range is only 11.9m. What's up with that?
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>>558883276
A female ixian, IF done correctly (IE attractive(nevermind the homos and retards that want ugly characters)) would give Mina and Silver a run for their money.
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>>558888392
I really think they fucked on him too much. I get with his kit being so focused on utility you can't have him also shit out more damage than a straight up carry, but I see Rem throwing tactical nukes all throughout the game, Celeste being just as mobile while still throwing out damage and having good defense and even Paige having arguably better damage while still bringing borderline broken support to the table and I'm like "why can every other character have their cake and eat it too?' you know?
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>>558890451
Victor gets specific tweaks to how items effect him otherwise he'd be the most unstoppable man in the world
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anyone have that ivy image where she has huge ears and is saying "i'm all ears cabron"?
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>Playing Streetbrawl, the mod where literally nothing matters
>2 people still sitting behind the guardian the entire time like they're in a losing lane in a normal match
what causes this incredibly buck broken behavior
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>>558890573
yoshi is just gonna be a retard and argue that the utility of the door overshadows all of those and call it a day, i fully expect Doorman to never actually be a good pick
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>>558890493
Yeah because we don't get attractive females like graves and silver and celeste and mina
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>>558890451
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>>558890573
>why won't they let a guy with a gun debuff spirit nuke, a wall stun, teleports + barriers, and a "gtfo of the fight for 3-8 seconds while I fuck your squishy" be a strong gun carry

think harder about it.
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>>558890789
I'm referring to the "people" that were upset that Silver was attractive and not a fat ugly slob because she drinks alcohol.
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>>558890263
That's why I still play him even after all the gutting. Knowing I'm the one that is making their carry that fucking mad on a personal level is great
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>>558890451
Just do ballistic enchantment on him so you can shred people that are in your aura
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>>558890758
He might of had an argument when it could run urns but it can't even do that now
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i think it's ridiculous how many active items you need to buy now, literally 3 or 4 every game
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>>558890443
>suffer and die
or
>adapt

subpar builds to compensate for weaknesses are still smarter than getting countered by one item and bitching about it
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heh i heckin love how lash can just grab me from 5 screens over
what a skillful hero
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>>558889134
I want a character that only takes 50% of the damage dealt to him but all damage is turned into true damage so he can't have more than 50% damage reduction.
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>>558891238
the humble counterspell
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>>558890658
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>>558889883
They should have went more in the direction of her more motherly/teacherly and/or panicky/uneasy-feeling voicelines, those are great, genuinely on-par with the original deadlock cast. Sadly whoever wrote her lines utterly dropped the ball one day and decided to turn her into a league of legends character :/.

shes still not as bad as silver tho
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>>558890832
i dont think hes arguing to buff gunman, just that normal doorman kinda sucks ass right now
hes basically entirely reliant upon towers and vortex grenade to get any kills
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>>558889134
I want a skeleton, thats it.
he doesnt have to be meta I just want a cool skeleton to play as
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>>558891430
sounds intentional, yea. doorman already has the best escape in the game, why exactly does he need to be a strong 1v1 hero?
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idgaf if apollo is weak or strong
he's way too annoying
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>>558891601
I imagine you breaking out in tears when he starts lunging
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>>558890447
It's not that you would need a video to know how to do it, it's that some meme youtuber could make a video showcasing it and a ton of his audience goes and replicates it
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>>558891494
Skeleton KANG died for our sins.
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luckily Valve doesn't give a flying fuck about China any more so we'll probably get a skeleton sooner or later
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Okay, I'm retiring Silver. She's just too unfun to play as.
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>>558891494
An undead veteran of magical vietnam would be cool
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what character should i pick if i want people to think im a cute loli
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>>558891545
I'm asking for Doorman to be a hardcarry I just want him to be less cucked by endgame so hes not reliant on throwing people into walkers and spawn
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>>558892151
krilliam shakspeare
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>>558892151
Mcginnis
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>>558889134
>Someone who juggles a dozen spells (Invoker)
>Someone who gets way more powerful when at low health but vulnerable to antiheal and executes, no Shiv doesn't count (Huskar)
>An absolute cancer niggerhell turboAIDS debuff kit to give enemies gonorrhea (my nigga Veno got shattered into Miku and Pocket, so a QoP or Willow)
>Haze got Clinkz's role but add a sprezzatura skellyman in his honor
>Wraith doesn't even use the gambler theme, add a real RNG themed hero, fuck it bring back the Gambler
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>>558892083
Good, fuck silverfags
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>>558892151
warden
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>>558892209
>dlg has been nonstop whining about apollo and celeste, who have powerful spirit nukes
>hmmm will yoshi buff doorman so he can have powerful nukes or go gun carry again?

probably not
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>took a big stinky shit on a rem+victor duo by building healbane 3rd item after quicksilver and torment pulse

outkrilled, im sorry to say.
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>>558892083
I only play doorman so I can ult Silver
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>>558892209
meant to say NOT a hardcarry
I just feel like Doormans in this odd spot
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>>558892151
Abrams
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I feel so useless when playing Vindicta and Pocket :(
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Legit have no idea what the fuck to build on silver to at least function like a hero....
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>>558889134
Someone like Juggernaut who can teleport behind someone
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>>558892586
bro your drifter?
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>>558892372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqaCEPwWGtc
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>>558892586
Drifter already does that
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>>558891775
you dont need a youtuber to do that people did that since his launch, shit was worse back then with the invisible wall
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>>558890443
You can buy some extra gun and survivability and just focus on tower diving as Victor if the matchup's not great for a standard build. It's still fundamentally a spirit build, but you can adjust the build to the circumstances
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>>558892493
I have success with the Eido build
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at what rank do people learn to parry when drifter suddenly disappears from their sight
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>>558891494
Great taste

>>558889134
I want a giant spider, and some other non-humans/humanoid, be it other giant arthropods or otherwise. Even Viper is going to end up rather humanoid I reckon, which is fine since I like snake ladies, but I want proper non-humanoid rep.
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>>558871405
grats L
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Do you need to know his alt-fire tech to actually be good with Shiv? All the build orders seem to rely on actives over any of his kit.
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>>558889134
>>558893106
my dont starve main is webber so i think it would be cool if a spider hero was someone who can create a small army of minions to follow him
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>>558893362
Yes actually, its why hes f tier in pubs and s in comp
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>>558892053
They already removed like 4 or 5 different item icons containing skulls, chief amongst them Scourge, Healbane and Cheat death, with those last two having like 3 or 4 different iterations done to appease the chinks
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Mirage is a battle maid
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>>558893480
TAKE EM OUT BOYS
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I fucking kneel
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>>558892098
Im trying to remember the timeline but did WW1 happen in the Deadlock Universe?
a WW1 Vet Skeleton guy that just wishes the war never happened would be cool
>No Mans Land; AoE poison area
>Trenchfoot; A slowing poison path
>Shellshock; timed increase to firerate but decreased bullet defense
>Christmas Truce; Silence and Disarm both yourself and a enemy player
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>>558893582
I want to see Mirage wearing a very skimpy maid outfit with a very obvious visible bulge.
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>>558889134
Everyone, hear me out on this one. A SHORT greek woman
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>>558893535
why would that make him bad in pubs? cant you just learn his alt fire movement in pubs?
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>>558889134
Regular soldier man who served in Ixia
John Henry
Trapper
The villain from Princess and the Frog
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>>558892372
I think there's a nice middle point between gay shit like Apollo, Rem and Celeste and what Doorman has now, anon
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The people making builds that also function as playstyle guides because they have tips and strategies added as flavour text and everything set out neatly as early/mid/late and core/additional/optional and so on
Are typing that shit out with one of their angel wings curled up above their head to block the halo glow from causing glare on their monitors
Hoooly I love those builds
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>>558894020
like who? people whine about grey talon and geist when their spirit nukes are strong too. the fact is, the playerbase is full of hero shooter players who hate the idea of spirit heroes being strong.
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>>558893750
I don't think so.
The closest thing was Wrecker who was some weird monster Fairfax bio-engineered Resident Evil style to fight in the South Ixian war and was so fucking ruthless and savage it was called 'The Butcher of Ixia'. Every character with lines about him either hated him or was scared shitless of him.
Sadly they were deleted and disappeared along with Hero Labs.
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What can you say about this game from the scoreboard?
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>>558894020
I still don't fully understand Celeste's playstyle or what builds are good for her
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>>558889134
we need an italian mobster character, i don't care if it subverts the stereotype or whatever the fuck there just has to be one
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>>558894369
That you and graves got carried?
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>>558894353
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fWV1QQYaskE
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Why has Abrams been allowed to rape lobbies from day 1 with slaps on the wrist from time to time but Shiv has been nerfed into complete irrelevancy outside of being an ult bot with mediocre bursting capabilities ? Are they planning on reworking his kit along his appearance?
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FUCK YOU MIRAGE
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>>558894620
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>>558894619
Because abrams is yoshi's self insert. It's why he gets all this special treatment in every aspect of the game whether in gameplay or lore.
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you already have 8 stacks don't need any more!
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>>558894619
>shiv has been nerfed into irrelevancy

?????
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Mirage's hometown is being bombed as we speak and you're laughing?!
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>>558894673
W shiv
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>>558894804
lowest wr in the entire game, across all skill levels.
>but muh meme weekly that's played by 20 people
no one cares
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>>558892372
Apollo whiners are unironically just pisslow. He falls off so hard once you get to ranks where people have achieved basic sentience. He is just another spirit nuker that people needed a bit of time to learn how to deal with. Once you know how to play versus him in lane he's fine and also hard countered by like 5 different items.

Celeste is another thing entirely, she is inherently broken because of her movement.
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>>558895072
>buff shiv because I can't win with him anymore

skill issue
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>lane partner dies 3 times then leaves

How do I keep them alive?
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>>558892918
do you have the id?
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>>558895164
there is no saving stupid people that want to feed
him leaving you saved you from 30 minutes of wasted time
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>>558895164
Healing Rite into Rescue Beam.
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It's Saturday afternoon and I can't find a match.
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>lane with the feeder in the friend group every game but not that familiar with them so you don't want to be impolite and flame them or request lane switch
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>>558895164
pick paige
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>>558895324
It happens enough times that I think I'm just not coordinating well enough and I'm not keeping the pressure off of them
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>>558893480
I mained Broodmother when I played Dota 2 and she is basically that. I stopped playing a bit after they took away her built in invisibility in her webs. Blowing up people to make tons of baby spiders was always fun though.
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>>558889287
>fright train
*freight train
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>>558894113
It's hard to know which builds in the browser are actually worth using
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how do i make the damage numbers bigger
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>>558893576
they just made a character that throws flaming skulls
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>>558892256
>Wraith doesn't even use the gambler theme
The fact her passive isnt random crits is a travesty
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who is >the adversary?
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>>558893719
>Steals any ult he wants
>its half the CD of yours + all the items he has
>People still think this is fine and balanced
Fuck you Yoshnigger
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>>558896357
viscous is schizo ignore him...
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>>558896357
don't worry about it
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>>558896318
God I wish, I'd kill for the joys of random crockets
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>>558889134
W are yet to get a drunk fat nuncle charcater, Give him a Tusk's facet Drunkern buddies, and alcohol aoe debuff that gives your allies crit chance and makes and vulnurability to spirit damage to enemies
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>>558896357
Israel
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After playing exclusively random on streetbrawl for a few days, I can say with confidence some heroes are just straight up unplayable with how tilted their item pools are towards spirit vs gun
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>>558896376
Love it when he turns into our silver
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>>558896357
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>>558896357
Naga Siren in heat roaming the ocean to fuck every merman she sees
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when is lifestealer getting added
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Im gonna repeat myself from a few threads back, i want Apollo's father to eventually make it to the game, and be his opposite vibe wise, like a giant savage demon guy, but is equally nationalistic about Ixia, who rose to conquer ixia Conan style, and is proud that his son gets to be an artistocrat and live a lifestyle he couldnt, but this time i came up with a character concept for him.

Cauterized wound: can be cast on self, enemy or ally, deals a small Spirit nuke, and target is Cauterized for 5 seconds, while you are Cauterized, all the damage and healing you receive is delayed until the end of the effect.

Infernal binding: Charge ability, cast on an enemy to bind them to yourself. While binded, part of the damage either of you suffers is spread to the other

Ixian blade: passive, melee attacks put a debuff on the target, light melee put 1/4 of the charge, heavy melee applies 4/4 of the charge, when 4 effects are applied, the target explodes with fire which stuns it for a short duration and deals damage to enemies around which scales with your melee damage

Warlord's domain: teleports you and the target to a Dule arena location, for 10 seconds, if either of you dies, the effect stops immediately, and whoever stayed allive gains a permament damage buff

For weapons - a possessed Lewis gun or a Chauchat, and a big fuck off axe
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>>558896935
Billy is the best you'll get
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>>558896074
I think they dont have visible maws or nostrils, thus making them acceptable for chinamen
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>>558896994
I've seen so much porn of this guy btw
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>>558867616
Like this
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>>558896994
Will his penis be bigger than Abrams?
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>>558896994
I started a Skarbrand campaign today, neat concept
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>>558897005
he doesn't even steal life
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>>558896994
are they ever gonna do a 1v1 duel arena ult? feels like half of the custom forums is just that
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>Gray Talon + Vindicta team
>Somehow our fucktard Dynamo doesn't just rush knockdown asap
tired of having to be the team babysitter
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>>558897083
Of course, it takes the biggest dick to fuck all of ixia, and force flameniggers like infernus immigrate
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>>558897265
your Kelvin dome?
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>>558897083
Kys
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>>558889134
Dante.
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>>558889134
We need a techies equivalent so deadlockbabs can know the pain of getting held hostage in a 1+ hour match where everything that tries to push base gets blown up by mines.
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>>558897331
most of the ones I see have them teleport the enemy to an area off map like door ult
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>>558897064
>smurf in archon
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>>558896994
Unironically great concept, both in theming and skill ideas
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With thread ending I once again want to say I desire gay sex with Abrams.
>>558897083
It's smaller, I would know.
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>>558868424
Don't listen to these pussy faggots, just buy more damage items. Greens don't matter as long as you kill them first :)

>>558897451
The build is still correct, no?
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>>558897475
Thx, maybe i should ask somone to draw him and post it on the forums.
I imagine him wearing soviet ww2 engineer plate, and a great coat covered in medals
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>>558894619
Abrams is John Deadlock.
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Thread doko
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>>558896357
Slork
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>>558894395
She's just Victor but better in almost every way.
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>>558896994
Apollo's dad is Ixian George Washington with horns. You can see a statue of him behind Apollo in his select screen.
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I got called a turbothrowing doublenigger by a team mate AND berated by the four of the enemies today while trying to learn a character and playstyle I've never done.
Why do people take video games so seriously.
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>>558897867
Ok? I still don't understand her.
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>>558898065
confidence and self esteem issues
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>>558897867
nah she's just invoker with clinkz ult and she looks like broodmother
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>>558897934
Isnt that actually just a statue of Walter Fairfax reused from ivy's/pocket's background?
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>>558894395
she's like Lillia from League of Legends
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i wish this game had a bounty hunter equivalent
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>>558898247
You can't see the statue in those backgrounds, just the podium, right? Is the podium in Apollo's actually the same?

It would make sense for Apollo's independence for North Ixia warlord (general) dad to be a demon version of George Washington.
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>>558898065
Cuz valve forced everyone into the ranked queue, so everyone now constantly sweats over their rank in fear of falling down to shitlow where their teammates are too retarded to be carried properly

[Spoiler]i unironically miss the weekly rank system from when ranked was introduced[/spoiler]
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>>558898347
haze
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this is the perfect sensitivity according to @grok
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>>558898628
Nah, Haze is more like Clinkz, what he wants is an invis poke character that can up your soul reward for killing marked targets and give info on their position
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>>558898643
get help
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>>558898643
Oh fugg 800 dpi and 0.75 sens is exactly what I use, guess I gotta start on that HRT
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>>558898529
I cant check today since im away from home, but im fairly sure you can see that they're all the same asset, just with some parts obscured depending on the character (head for ivy, for example)
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>>558898643
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>>558898643
Nigger i have a small ass mousepad, i'd look like a rabid monkey with how much i'd have to swing my arms with that low ass sens
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>>558899134
>that
>low
do you play on a fucking mug?
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>>558855581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4jw8drcF5s
https://www.twitch.tv/metro

Why is he allowed to make "CONTENT DOOD" out of him smurfing (against the rules) ruining people's games by pubstomping?
"12-2" so he's ruined 12 people's games today.
In the last game he had fucking 45k while everyone else has 23k.
I didn't hate this faggot before but I certainly do now.
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>>558899228
>800 dpi with 0.75 isn't low
then what is?
800 dpi 0.01?
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>>558898643
Oh no I'm off by .17
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>>558899363
he's a subhuman german and rages like a sperg whenever someone on the internet is mean to him
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>>558899363
Smurfing is for subhumans. I doubt it'll do anything but you could report him on the forums. Smurfing is a reportable offense in-game so how is this allowed?
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>>558892493
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These are some good builds but I follow my own
In lane, mostly build green. Regen, then melee lifesteal. From there on you have 2 options: point blank or slowing bullets. Don't build both. Then build Life strike. From there on, get 3200 gun item, usually it's either hunters aura or express shot. Then, you need to see what they're building and get at least one resist if you keep dying or targeted. After that, focus on getting Inhibitor or berserker. The endgame depends on what they have. Rushing inhibitor is actually insanely good on Silver
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Is there any good solo porn of Pocket?
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU LANE AGAINST MINA

THIS DUMB BITCH STANDS ON THE BRIDGE AND HITSCAN RIGHT CLICKS YOU FOR ONE SHITZILLION DAMAGE
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>>558899228
>34.6cm/360 isn't "low"
My sens when I had a giant desk was 36cm/360, 0.750@800dpi definitely qualifies as "low".

>>558899805
Guarantee the faggot devs won't do anything about him because he's a prominent "influencer".
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>game kicks me off the match
>can't reconnect
>close and open game
>still can't rejoin
man fuck this
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Should you always try to stick by your partner in lane?
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>>558900029
after she shoots you for one shitzillion damage, she can no longer trade with you. shoot her
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>playing brawl
>stomp first 2 games
>silver comes online and dives our whole team and wins the other 3 for the enemy team
wow, there was nothing we could do
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>>558900262
>>558900262
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>>558897517
Kys faggot
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>>558899363
>smurfing apollo in low elo
holy shit this guy is literally hitler
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>>558898065
Don't let it get to you. I can't take anyone that sweats that hard over this shit seriously.
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>>558900007
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Just played billy for the first time
holy fucking FUN, just pure unga.
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>>558900029
Just don't let her kiss you bro
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>>558886850
Venator is just a worse Abrams with better range
But Abrams is already pretty good so that doesn't mean much for Venator
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how do i play ranked?
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>>558903531
click this
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>>558903652
oh, so regular 6v6 is ranked? where do i check my mmr?
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>>558906462
you press escape and click your profile icon at the top right and it'll show your match history and it'll say "time played" around the center left of the screen, then right next to that it'll say "skill rating", click on that tab and it'll give you some other stats as well as your rank, and you can click on the little "!" or "i" next to "skill rating" or your rank or whatever and see a chart of where all the ranks are
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>>558910676
you really helpful, Anons, thanks for your guidance.



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