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Game Info:
>COME ON AND SLAM
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/
>Marathon Game Home Page
https://www.marathonthegame.com/
>Reveal Cinematic
https://youtu.be/fvbEnWLRo1s [Embed]
>New Gameplay Trailers
https://youtu.be/hWwXSb7dlnQ [Embed]
https://youtu.be/MXhQbF7TlbA [Embed]
>New Gameplay Footage
https://youtu.be/ToVHiqE_S5k [Embed]
https://youtu.be/l5JXX0KZioI [Embed]
>The Entire History of Marathon
https://youtu.be/yu7uN6-lNhk [Embed]
>Play the Original Marathon for Free
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/
https://marathon.bungie.org/story/

Databases:
https://tauceti.world/
https://tauceti.gg/
https://marathonmeta.gg/


News:
>SERVER SLAM BEGINS FEBRUARY 26
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon-server-slam
>CHEATERS BANNED FOREVER NO SECOND CHANCES, LOOT WILL BE RETURNED TO AFFECTED USERS
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathonsecurity
>NEW OST TRACKS
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m7VJ7MwzXPMN7xwF-c24YlpWEsJXj65AI

Previous Thread:
>>558825165
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My 1X-coded Shell Runner wants to know if we know what Thief does
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>>558862372
passive = abilities recharge faster + better weapon handling + more agility the more loot you are carrying
has a grappling hook
has a drone she can fly which can steal look from enemies, can leave the drone temporarily and repilot it, very nice for scouting it seems
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I'm gonna harass people as Rook
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>>558862326
>[Embed] [Embed]
what a dork
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how the fuck do i turn the power on at north relay aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Cheeseburger
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>>558862658
theres a like panel on the wall on the first floor, little hand pad thing
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guys wtf is matter fixative to fix guns??
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>>558862892
GUNS HAVE DURABILITY?
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>>558862939
no there is like a special type you can look that is like going to be destroyed on exfil and you need to applying a fixative to fix it
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Volt Thrower Triage is so funny
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Why isn't there a sell all option after extracting?
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>>558863549
you WILL hold down x for every item and you WILL enjoy it
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>get the jump on a looting ghost with a green shield
>he eats half a clip, turns around and then kills me in 0.2 seconds
I see the hacking problem is starting fast
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>first rook run
>find two players doing the heist at AI uplink that locks them in the room to fight UESC
>wait a few rounds
>use my bot mode to blend in with the robots
>knife them both
>one gets away and self rezzes
>hunt him into the tunnels of uesc
>hear a slight footstep in a room
>throw sonar nade in
>he panics and rushes me
>kill
rook is awesome holy shit that was fun
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>>558864203
Why does Rook look like he's made up of MIDA and UESC parts
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>>558864249
probably is a UESC bot stolen by mida or something
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>>558864203
i got almost all the rook unlocks on that one run lol
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Do you think Bungie fucked up making this free to play for a week?
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>>558864536
possibly because everyone and their mother ran out with their review as if this is the full game. having played the recent test its a lot better with the final maps, i think a lot of people are going to start hitting cap soon
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>>558864203
Just wait until you get a match where two teams are fighting each other, and you come in to clean it up. I saw some desperate dude trying to crawl to extract before I finished him off with my pistol lol.

most I've extracted with is 7.3k
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>>558864685
lol holy shit, i love how he just feels like an agent of chaos, i hope they give him some skins like the other runners too
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I reinstalled and then uninstalled again after I got shot as rook out of nowhere about to leave. This game just isn't fun. I'll abandon multiplayer games. I was hyped for this for years, don't believe me I don't care but it was the perfect and I know games as a service are a scam but even then it was my interest on sci fi and AI fiction and space and my love of the og marathon.
Only for this to be the game, I am depressed in general but this is adding up
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More like Moggedrathon
It's so over.
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>>558865002
i love it, but if you arent a pvp guy i can see how it might not jive with you, the deaths sting for sure but thats part of the fun imo
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>played so long I've now entered the forced loss area of MMR where it exclusively matches me against tryhards to try to enforce a 50/50 win loss
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I am loving this game so far. It’s so refreshing to be learning a new game from scratch, this is all that’s been on my mind for the past day. The I go onto YouTube or god forbid twitter, it’s a cesspool. I will be playing this in a bubble for the rest of the playtest. No more looking at discourse online, no watching videos or anything related to this game. No streams, no tweets, nothing. Doesn’t matter if it’s positive or negative, I am sick of the doom and gloom and I just wanna have fun, . I’ll probably just stickto this thread to find out useful information sometimes. I suggested the same to a friend and will suggest the same to everyone who wants to just enjoy the game.
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>>558865143
>posted from reddit again award
we dont care retard
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My worry with this game is how oppressive the PVP might end up getting for people who aren't like the top 1% of shooter players. I'm not particularly great and have zero desire to be endlessly farmed.
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>the Bungie of old is long gone

Reminder:
The multiplayer designer for Halo 3 is the Senior Design Lead for Marathon.
The campaign designer for Halo 3 who made the Warthog run worked on Marathon.
The technical Director for Marathon started at Bungie in 2000.
The guy who designed the Flood and most of the weapons in CE came back to work on Marathon
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>>558862658
Once you interact with the scanner the marker should update to the first floor just under you.
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Why are people so terrified of not being able to extract when the vast majority of useful (and easy) contracts with MIDA and CyAc can be done with free kits
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Has anyone else noticed that the moon looks larger now than it did yesterday?
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>>558865620
A lot of contracts are annoying, especially due to unmarked objectives. DCON ones in particular.
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The current narrative I'm seeing on reddit is that "it takes 6-12 hours to good get. The more you play, the better it gets."
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>>558866071
its unironically true
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>>558865996
I noticed just now that the contract descriptions will give you a rough location, helped for NuCaloric 2.
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Upgraded green shield for free
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>>558866226
Not really, certain things get a bit easier but the game becomes tiresome too. There's flatly not enough here, barely any story, the combat isn't that great and there's an enormous amount of problems with balance.
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>>558866381
>ratting in a corner
>dogshit enemies who don't even get a shot off
Yep, we're Klemmin', bros.
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>>558866402
i disagree on all fronts, maybe there isnt enough here seeing as we have half the game, but the gameplay is great, i think the story is interesting, and i would never call myself an expert on balance after 5-10 hours lol.
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Have you considered that we're remote controlling real robots to do some kind of resource gathering disguised as a game
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game has a few good ideas that i would like to see in arc raiders such as guns showing the ammo type icon
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Game is clicking with me now
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>>558866453
If you blindly run in with good gear and somehow still get murdered by a freekitter that's kind of your fault
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Holy shit EMP grenades are cracked
Thanks dudes for recommending I level MIDA
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>>558866547
im bad at aiming the shoot gun
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>>558866613
ive been leveling arachne and so far its not very good rip
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Did I just hear my runner say "Jesus Christ!"?
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>>558866712
no that was me
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What exactly is the point of cosmetics when you never even see them like in Destiny?
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Blastchads! Where we at?
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>>558866453
Don't show me your feet
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7gfIW2p3aK0
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>>558867278
btw he went on to play for 13 more hours straight and liked it
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this game is woke? we need it to fail then...
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this server slam probably cost them millions of dollars in potential orders from curious people or people willing to give bungie the benefit of doubt. it’s crazy that bungie still manages to fuck itself on their gameplay and systems decisions after all the fuck ups through destiny 1 and 2.
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>>558867421
>this server slam probably cost them millions of dollars in potential orders from curious people or people willing to give bungie the benefit of doubt.
it's better to take the negative publicity now than be seen as scamming a bunch of people out of their money like cyberpunk
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>decide to use a regular gun for the first time in a while as rook
>immediately die
holy fuck man, every other gun in this game is absolute ass
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>>558867421
>herm.... how can i frame yet another thing in an overtly negative light....
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I have a 9.5K inventory after 4 hours.

Still don't know what to buy, I just killing everyone using free guns.
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holy shit that lever action rifle is fucking awful, so many of the guns are just borderline unusable
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>>558867421
How? The game seems good so far
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>>558867646
I recommend buying the CyAc and NuCal upgrades
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>>558867706
>many of the guns are just borderline unusable
You are supposed to use them when enemies don't see you. Then all of them work.
Hide & listen first, shoot when the enemy is exposed.
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>>558867778
what a worthless glaze comment
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>>558867835
It's advice from someone who doesn't die. Do whateva you wanna do, niglet
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>>558867275
rope yourself klem
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>blue shields allegedly make it much harder to kill someone
>still 5 shot someone with a volt pistol
this game is legit fucking terrible dude
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>>558868009
>get kill
>still whine
interesting
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>>558868056
That's because the kills I'm getting are total bullshit. I literally swung into the face of two enemies and killed them because I landed headshots WITH A GREY PISTOL.
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>>558868112
A blue pistol doesn't deal anymore damage. I don't think you understand what it means.
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>>558867895
>>558868056
>>558868173
20 Rupees have been deposited to your account
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>>558868173
What's the point of the higher rarity then? I'm literally destroying fully kitted teams with a zero attachment V11 punch.
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>>558868009
Yes, volt does more damage to shields
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>>558868247
>What's the point of the higher rarity then?
It's a mystery
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>>558867706
Just tried out the railgun that sells for 3k and probably costs like 10k

It's an utter piece of shit. A single fully charged shot doesn't even kill an autoturret. What on earth is with the guns in this game, the one good ones are a few pistols, the bully SMG, and one AR.
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>>558868112
when you play vs good players you will die instantly, will that make you happy?
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Running around bad. Camping and listening good.
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Are the cosmetics and lore entries in the codex the ones that will be there on release?

They're awfully skimpy, the skins are bad too.
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>>558868247
it indicates better mods, better handling, ads speeds, accuracy, kickback ect
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>More people are playing Dead by Daylight then Marathon right now.
Runner br-sorry I forgot. Shell bros...is it over?
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>>558868581
My 1X-coded Shell will perish after a month when Sony cans the whole thing...
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>>558865340
this. I've played for a bit and kind of enjoyed myself, but I can't progress cause I keep getting killed all the time.
I really can't see myself spending £35 on this.
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do we know how bad the monetization is gonna be? Is it gonna be destiny 2 levels of bad?
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>>558869126
>Is it gonna be destiny 2 levels of bad?
ofc. bungie unironically thinks this game is going to be the next big thing despite the only good press coming from them riding on the coattails of arc raiders. this is like a 20k CCU game and they're going to rape the playerbase with insane monetization
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Xisters I went to extract and said friendly... The other player still killed me... Absolutely bewildered from this behavior
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What's the point of the Destroyer shield? You can't shoot with it deployed, and it doesn't even draw clanker aggro.
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Level-based matchmaking sucks.............
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>>558869498
Protecting your teammates, moving from cover to cover?
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>>558869195
Fuck bungie.
I'm actually surprised by how much I like marathon, but all the stupidly bad things still in a game that's just about to come out and bungie's track record is really putting me off. Maybe I should just play Arc Raiders instead.
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>>558869371
are the arc raider psychopatsh drawn to this gaeme???
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why did they give the enemies the same ai as the brutes from halo? they even do that same side step when being shot at
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Is it better to run solo or to use matchmaking to get a team? I’m pretty much just spawning in, collecting a few things, and getting killed after about 5 minutes. I get some elims but I can’t really take on a team.

To be fully honest, it’s not really clear to me what I’m supposed to be doing in this game at all. Like, why do I even want to complete these objectives? To get better gear that I lose anyway if I get killed? Ehhh
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>>558869592
Oh god is that how it works? Is that why I keep getting killed by sweats in solo?
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My 1X-coded Shell died to PvE...
F-Fuck infiltrator commanders...

>>558869735
Yes, if you're above level 20 that's what happens.
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>>558869717
I think full solo is the worst mode, followed by matchmaking randos being slightly better, then running with friends is the best and (probably) only mode bungie wants people to actually play.
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>>558869715
Same as some of the Eliksni in Destiny.
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>>558869717
I only do the priority contracts solo.
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>>558868457
Ah yes, Tarkov classic.
>spend 40 minutes looting
>die to rat that camped extraction without flinching for 41 minutes
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>38,000 players online
>5 minutes to find a match
why
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>>558870202
ITLL GET BETTER SHUT UP! MORE PEOPLE WILL PLAY IN 5 DAYS WHEN YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY IT!
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i like the recon shell guy
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>>558870029
>41 minutes
Rookie numbers, I can wait till Jesus comes back.
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>>558870310
>recon
>guy
anon...
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>>558870306
>PAY TO PLAY IT
not making this shit f2p was the worst decision ever
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Yes Bungie, very nice. Now please make a Halo clone for your next game. We need more games like that and fewer “wandering around and looting stuff” type games.
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>>558869717
Spawn with your kit, go to an extract, find a nice place to hide, alt tab out, listen for extract being called, tab in, kill guy as he's standing in the extract, loot him and leave
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>>558870387
Never heard about drag queens?
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As one of the last runners online...
Thank you for playing with me...
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>>558870530
shes a woman voiced by a woman
granted the VA has voiced some guys in the past but she's not using a that kind of voice
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Do you think we'll get a 2B skin before EoS?
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>>558870771
She's a woman for sure
But she got no ass for some reason
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>>558870521
Sounds boring!
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>>558870834
Most Bungie devs are trans
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>>558870521
I will try this and post results.
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>>558870775
Neir is transphobic, we'll get STAR WARS skins.
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>>558870834
nice thighs though
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the fucking door doesn't open with E
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>>558870972
post some cute ones
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>>558871220
You get inside through a vent at the rooftop. You need to break it
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hello, fellow blast havers
jokes aside, hows the game? i have some time to try it out this afternoon, looking forward to it. are you guys having fun
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>>558871325
ty m8
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>reminder
glitch does have ass
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rook fucking ovns you
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>>558871385
its just boring and nothing more
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>>558871385
i really do like it, idk if im just an extraction shooter guy (never played one before) but it feels like wow open world pvp in a way and that was my favorite shit ever, so ive been having fun, takes a little time to click though
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>>558871410
No xhe doesn't
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>>558871559
That's the core of it, so fucking boring. They keep calling this a hardcore pvp experience because once you factor out other players it's nothing but a small, flat map with bullet sponge AI while you are made of paper.
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>>558871385
I did not have a blast, it fucking sucks
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>>558871559
>>558871674
>two guys who hate the game still hanging around the general 3 days later
interesting
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>>558871008
how is nier transphobic retard? kaine literally has a canonical dick
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>>558871385
it's a very mediocre game, but I like the art and the guns. I hope they update it and make it decent and add a PVE mode.
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>>558870202
It's dead
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>>558871734
It's free. I gave it a big second try yesterday. I might as well watch it crash now.
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grubbing secure crates as rook is funny as fuck
free purple loot and you get to backstab anybody hanging around to loot
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>>558871814
Unrealistic type b body proportions
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>>558871385
yes i had fun with it, it was a bit overwhelming at first but once it clicked i was enjoying it

i don't know if it will have the staying power of arc raiders though personally for me
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Do you think making this game F2P could salvage it?
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so it's the dark zone in the division but that's it, that's the whole game?
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>>558871385
I'm having fun. The guy on the left probably isn't though.
Idk why people with sponsored free gear is getting matched with people with gear that has value though.
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>>558872421
Yes. It's a polished game. The problem is it has pretty much no content outside of pvp and the maps just aren't exciting.
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>>558872421
They would make it F2P if they could, problem is with F2P there's no chance of stopping cheaters, with a big price tag you can at least discourage some of them.
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>>558872421
Keep f2p subhumans the fuck out
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>>558871385
Pretty good
I want to get up to the Marathon and fight the Pfhor already though
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>>558872421
No, they need to delay it for a few more years.
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This game is going to have zero longevity, it's literally sweatier than Tarkov due to the TTK combined with lacking even the asswallet. There are absolutely zero random alliance/teamup scenarios, it's 100% sweaty PVP all the time, and tiring PVP too.

Bungie genuinely fucked up and is going to be dead within a year. I honestly can't believe it.
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>>558873075
>This game is going to have zero longevity, it's literally sweatier than Tarkov due to the TTK combined with lacking even the asswallet. There are absolutely zero random alliance/teamup scenarios, it's 100% sweaty PVP all the time, and tiring PVP too.
And how is any of this bad?
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>>558873075
>Bungie genuinely fucked up and is going to be dead within a year. I honestly can't believe it.
It's been a long time coming. Most of the old guard Bungie employees left or were wrongfully terminated by 2016. Since then they've only hired retards to rape.
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>>558873131
Because it should be a PVE looter shooter with a side dish of PVP
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>thinking i might download marathon tomorrow
am i too late? playing rook feels like low stakes as a solo player
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>>558873398
Rook puts you in 1v3s intentionally.
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>>558873131
>how is any of this bad
It's bad because it means this game is more niche than even Tarkov, with most casuals being almost certain to bounce off. That's bad when Bungie's goal should have been some sort of massive crowd pleaser.
>>558873234
Ya.
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>>558873603
>That's bad when Bungie's goal should have been some sort of massive crowd pleaser.
Fuck the crowd, I'm pleased.
Too bad for Bungie though, kek.
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>>558873603
didn't you get the memo. companies don't need players. highguard is revolutionizing this approach. its all money laundering.
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this shit ain't built for solos, they're raping me out there.
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>>558874319
aren't solos in a separate matchmaking?
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>>558874428
yeah, but that just means it takes one sweaty camper to end your run.
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just me or does the overrun AR feel like the best one?
good RoF and recoil
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Ok I think I'm gonna quit the game now.

Rook feels evil to play. I show up and vulture a whole team worth 15k with 5 minutes left in the raid, collectively wasting an hour of their time since they spawned in at 25 minutes. Then I have to watch them helplessly crawl around on the ground bleeding nasty blue shit everywhere, all for the benefit of some faceless organization. Not only that, but they're forced to watch me gun them in the face with my shitty grey pistol with zero attachments because of how long it takes to surrender.

From the grating visuals, haunting music, for the reason you're even on Tau Ceti as a shell... it's just a horrible evil experience.
I've had so much experience as Rook just destroying teams but I cant push myself to do it anymore. I no longer fuck with this game on a spiritual level, I feel like I'm committing an act of pure evil whenever I team wipe a trio/duo. Nothing about this game feels right, it's just bleak.

I've cracked smiles while playing some pretty depressing games, but not once have I felt any amount of joy in Marathon killing other players. And this is coming from someone with 250 hours in Arc Raiders. Call me a pussy or whatever, but yea... I'm done.
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>>558873075
What makes tarkov popular but has people bounce off this?
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>First game of Marathon
>Spawn
>Some explosion from somewhere instantly downs me before I can even move, didn't seem to be a teammate
>Downed
>Teammates don't revive me
>Close Marathon
Yeah this isn't for me
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>>558867757
>>558867579
>losing half your players in a free test with negative word of mouth is actually a good thing!
goddamn the cope.
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>>558875079
>That one spawn point next to a building that has claymores on the entrance
It's funny every time
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>bungie makes a sweaty as fuck PVP thing that chases away anyone who isnt remotely harcore dedicated
woah where have i heard this before
almost like there were these...trials
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How much of this game is peoples first experience with asymmetrical MP (HUNT, EFT, Arc Raiders, etc)? The more I play it, the more I genuinely wish it was just a single player game. Single player with light rogue-like elements. Playing it and the feel of it is very Halo or System Shock. The graphics and style are awesome, but the gameplay of it's multiplayer is just boring as fuck. The maps all feel very similar no matter what area I go to or am in.

But the multiplayer just kills it for me. The random teammates are genuine fucking retards that can't and aren't even paying attention to the screen in front of them. Dying very fast to a team or a group of AI enemies is boring and a complete waste of time.
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>>558874975
>I'm committing an act of pure evil whenever I team wipe a trio/duo.
You really are. Wiping three guys in a fucking grey kit and you don't even have to put the effort in of surviving the early gauntlet. The funniest shit is you can't even carry a team worth of shit and it just goes to waste.
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>>558875193
I play 1k hours of ark survival evolved and that was worse because high geared players would come stomp noobs for the sheer thrill of it.
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>>558875204
I'm not sure how bungie managed it, but this is the first game to make feel emotionally drained from PvP. Not from lack of success, but from guilt. I just put in my refund.
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I don't understand why people feel bad PKing in a PvP game
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>>558875425
lol?
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>>558875425
We human beings are cursed with a finite amount of time in this world and taking a few hours of progress for no gain is pretty sad.
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>>558875641
>with a finite amount of time in this world
and you're using it playing video games
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>>558875641
I don't think "if i don't win, this was a waste of time" is a healthy mindset for video games
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>>558875695
sociopath take
people play games to enjoy their free time, only weird NEETs obsessed with "stomping" less geared players find that fun
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>>558875803
>people play games to enjoy their free time
If you get angry or upset that you lost then you shouldn't be playing PvP games in the first place
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>>558875803
go back to arc lil bro
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>>558875839
You're right this game sucks
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>>558875947
Damn right it does
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>>558876037
WHAT THE FUCK
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I never played tarkov or arc raiders. My entire idea of what extraction shooters should feel like comes from games like rust.
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>>558875803
>only weird NEETs obsessed with "stomping" less geared players find that fun
Take a look at this gentlemen, this is the new face of the multiplayer shooters
Finally we have lost even our last bastion to the carebears, even in a fucking hardcore FPS game people are like this now.
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>>558876156
imagine rust but instead of a base that can get raided it's a menu
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>>558876149
You have been YHNYTOXEHNE'd my man
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>>558862326
If anyone has trouble with the commander quest, I did it solo, on a free kit no less. Use Triage's Q on a commander, be sure to have V active for damage bonus. Destroyer or Recon can work too
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I expected something less cynical than this.
Destiny sucked but at least it was somewhat unique, especially compared to this. This is just another extraction shooter. All I do is choose what kind of brown mush I want to put in my inventory.
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This is new player experience is somehow even worse than Destiny's.
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>>558876228
Back before rust had procedural generation I remember seeing stupid shit people did like a group of people who ran around naked with rocks.
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I like the weird art style, I hate the game. What a shame, they should do a singleplayer or pve game.
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This game is dying because everyone plays like a subhuman individual who shoots on sight
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>>558876407
this setting but formatted like an armored core game would be really cool
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>>558876178
all us friendlies left, this game is shit
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>>558876407
I firmly believe an extraction shooter needs to be built with pve in mind from the ground up and only when the pve is fun and challenging can you add pvp elements.
>>558876483
I think today I'm just going to go around and try make friends with people by not shooting them.
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>>558876513
lol
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>>558876407
shouldve done a tv series id watch it
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This game isn't friendly, its for us hardcore players who can actually play all day
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>>558876749
What will you do when you can't have any cool interactions and kill bosses together?
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The game is literally about running around picking up trash and then extracting
I know the title is inflammatory but that is the best way i can put it, 90% of stuff you will be picking up is simply junk. The real good loot is brought in by the players so if you want good loot you have to pvp, i just frankly don't understand the point of this game. The PvP is fun but its also kind of meh.

Genuinely, what is the point of 90% of the clutter items you pick up? Credits should be removed outright because its pointless to pick up 20 creds, almost all kinds of "sellable" items are just worthless, sorry but its just useless to pick them up, they are noob traps because you waste your inventory space in trash.

Also, why is there no mode to play solo against trios? This seems like such an obvious feature, and why is Rook restricted from completing contracts? Literally the most fun i've had on this game so far was running around as a Rook knifing people at extract to steal their guns so i can go on a rampage.

I don't think anyone should be surprised at the player drop desu, the reason why is very evident, there is simply not enough content or reason to even play this game. The only thing i genuinely enjoyed was killing players, everything else is mid.

tl;dr: Remove most useless loot, improve the rarity of the loot to actually make it worthwhile to pick up and increase players in a map DRASTICALLY, this game lives and dies by PvP, you might think you are making the game more enjoyable to people by reducing the odds you will run into another player but you aren't, if this game was all about PvE it would be a completely boring snoozfest.
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what the FUCK is a DCON? i can't find any and idk what i'm even supposed to be looking for before the timer runs out
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>That weird as fuck moth nibbling the Ethernet cable
>that’s the thing you see every time you load a match

I bet it’s some weird ass California Satanism shit again (the Moth is probably Moloch or something) but either way it’s incredibly stupid.
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>>558877019
Allegedly you have to get close to one before it shows up on your map
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>>558877357
I think you have brain moths
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>>558877357
Anon, silkworms become moths
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I get poorer every fucking run because I have to keep buying a ton of fucking ammo
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>get to any locked door in the game
>Locked Door Card Alpha needed

Has anyone opened a door yet? How do you open locked doors
Where is they keys
Where
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>>558876037
>>558876149
>game is unavaliable in rusland
>still got ruski translation
Are Bungie stupid or something?
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Marathon? More like its a Sprint into Bungie's closure.
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>>558877582
>Bungie stupid
They literally made Tarkov 2 in space but didn't understand why Tarkov is good so instead they made a menu simulator where you pick up random trash and sell for pennies
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>>558877357
basically your shell is printed by synthetic silk worms, remember the catipllar looking things in the trailer, it wasnt just a random visual, that is how their 3d printing tech works in the future, which those silk worms are then eaten by the synthetic moths once the shell is printed, which the moths then poop out more silk worms for your next shell to get printed
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>>558877586
Bungie is dead as fuck after this, i actually think they made a huge mistake with this instead of just going live outright, i was neutral before but after actually playing the game this is not worth 40 usd at all, this might be worth 15 usd in a good day
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>>558877586
didnt sony give them $4 BILLION for this?
and it has like 40k players on steam, when the game is FREE
and its the WEEKEND
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>>558877016
The thing with tarkov is that it makes sense in the context of that game, the food items are needed because your character actually consumes them, the meds items in that game are special to fix specific conditions.
The gear slows you down so the heavier you get the slower you go, in this way the game allows you to dynamically balance your character, you can carry heavier guns with AP ammo or heavier armor or more backpack space or whatever and it makes sense in that context

Also i want to mention in that game you can pick up "Roubles" "Dollars" and "Euros" which are a big difference because you can buy different gear with the different currencies and money is actually hard to come by in that game and everything is VERY expensive so it makes sense to actually care alot about finding 150 dollars or 100 euros even if the amount is relatively small, here it simply doesn't work because 50 credits in the context of being able to sell a green gun for 1.2K credits is NOTHING, same goes for 90% of junk you pick up, why would i pick up anything at all if i can just loot combat gear sell all of it at the end of the mission and then get more free gear and repeat? There is literally no purpose to most of the gear in this game.

Another thing i want to add is that the guns are all the same retextured, in tarkov you have different performance, more pen less pen and so on, here its all the same, you have 10 guns and they all do the same but the animation looks different.
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I’ve been playing for 11 hours now and I have a shotgun, a sniper rifle, some cores, a handful of green shields and 5000$ as well as some upgrades.

I’m trying to think just how long you’d have to play to get a vault that’s stable.
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>mg is full of rook mains
ugly virgin losers lol

>>558854118
haha you didn't get the loot and extracted. stupid spanish nerd
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gave the game a chance, but it's just a miserable ahrimanic experience
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>>558877998
>>mg is full of rook mains
The thing with Rook is that you are actually gimping yourself because you can't complete the quests which allow you to improve your character stats, so in the long term you are fucked basically. Putting that aside fighting trios as a solo is excellent, i wiped like 20 trios yesterday and it was glorious, also knifing people is awesome
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>>558877965
>lose it all in 2 matches
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>>558877998
>scared of chad rook mains 1v3ing their squads
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>>558878153
>scared and too broke to risk gear going into raids
you couldn't even win a duel against me.

>>558878102
>so in le long term you are le fucked
??? you arent fucked at all. not like you were ever gonna need progression since you dont buy or risk gear.
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>>558878339
Someone got curb stomped 1v3 by a gearless rook
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>>558878339
>??? you arent fucked at all. not like you were ever gonna need progression since you dont buy or risk gear.
You literally can't level the character stats, learn to read for fucks sake

The character upgrades require faction reputation so your can't get more powerful to dunk on more chuds like you with time, the game literally forces you to play trios
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>pvp game
>look inside
>no pvp
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>>558878479
there is PvP
but its really fucking bad
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>>558878460
not like you need character stats if all you play is rook, retard.
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>>558878595
holy shit
do you even play this game?
the faction unlocks upgrade the rook
fucking moron
go back to Tarkov
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>>558878403
The people that play Rook are unironically so good at the game that they win 1v3 with a literal grey pistol and a fucking knife.

I even got the knife skins from murdering so many people

>>558874975
>Rook feels evil to play. I show up and vulture a whole team worth 15k with 5 minutes left in the raid, collectively wasting an hour of their time since they spawned in at 25 minutes.

Brother, yesterday i literally spent the entire day dropping into random matches as rook and immediately running towards the closest extract because i knew i could find people there and i murdered so many people trying to extract, i unironically feel somewhat guilty, i wouldn't be surprised if i made people quit. I literally killed people for NO REASON, i didn't even fucking loot them, i just did it for the joy of watching them lose everything.

They tried to nerf us with a shitty pistol and we still endure.
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I miss when Bungie would make good PVP games
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>>558878403
>t. loser afraid to risk gear in a game all about risking gear
scav mains are the bottom of the food chain. go play cod or some mmo you dumb chud
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>>558878667
Like what? Halo 2? That was not a good PvP experience at all.
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>>558878731
Pretty much everything up until Destiny 2
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>>558878731
ZOOM ZOOM
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I've started playing Destroyer in solos..........
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So basically you are punished from actually gearin up and obviously the gameplay loop is loading in with sponsored kits and then just grabbing as much as you can, extracting, and then selling that, while avoiding PvP as much as possible

Very weird game
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If the person you downed pushes GIVE UP you lose out on getting +50 Arachne Rep by the way.
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>>558876749
Make sure to get those day long sessions in early, the servers might not be kept up for long.
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>>558878647
and? that hasnt stopped you from playing nothing but rook, retard
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>>558879023
>why are people mad about having their time wasted for game they are about to purchase
It's just not fun at all, how the fuck do people like this shitty genre
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>>558878957
Not him

I uninstalled the game unironically an hour ago because i just realized the only thing keeping me going forward was the promised stat upgrades but the grind for rep is so long and i am spending most of my time just running around. I don't even need credits anymore, i hit the 100k limit today and i just realized its all pointless, none of it is useful.
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>seriously trying to enjoy the game
>load it up
>gotta kill 3 robots for a noob quest
>ok this should be easy
>1st match die to robots
>"ok I need to be more careful"
>2nd match doing well
>shot in the back by another player that started riding my cock to stab me
>uninstall
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>plays pick-up football
>loses
>complains their time was wasted
Remember when people played shit for fun?
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>>558879089
Because I find the tension fun? I like games like space station 13 and trouble in terrorist town
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Why is everyone so confused about what extraction shooters are? All I'm seeing is complaint about core aspects of extraction shooters. What did you expect? Overwatch?
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>>558879178
Helldivers 2 is more fun than this to be honest, i will come back to play this game in a year or two when it has gone free to play
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>>558879184
those games actually sound fun though, this has to be genre for gamblers or something, because my brain seems to be missing that part and I hate gambling, and everyone compares it to how fun gambling is (gambling isnt fun at all)
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>>558879193
why did sony spend 4 billion dollars to make an extraction shooter that only 5000 people will play?
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>>558879193
Most of 4chan play nothing but gachas and co-op games with one hand these days so yeah
To be honest, I think that's puzzling because this game is easier than most mobas
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>>558879089
play cod and stfu dumb retard
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>>558879193
I was expecting a fun game, I just get killed all the time and lose all my stuff, how the fuck are casual players supposed to enjoy this, you're just actively punished all the time
>oh cool another team extracting
>"Hey guys I'm friendly, cool if I extract with you"
>all 3 turn around and immediately down me and shoot my body so I'm full dead
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>>558879178
Everyone has a hundred other games in their steam library that are a lot more fun. Why should anyone shell out $40 for this one?
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>>558879314
The chuds needed to get owned.
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>>558879256
>this has to be genre for gamblers or something
I played singleplayer Tarkov for a while and that game is really fun and the gun mechanics make it interesting, Marathon has no truly interesting gun mechanics beyond shoot person in the head
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>>558879314
After Cygames became woke and ruined uma musume with DEI horses I hope all of japan goes broke starting with Sony
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>>558879314
>it cant be that bad
>check steamcharts
>50K PLAYERS
LOL
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>>558879372
>I said I WAS FRIENDLY
>how come they didn't let me play with them
the entitlement is unreal these days
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>>558879372
>I just get killed all the time and lose all my stuff, how the fuck are casual players supposed to enjoy this, you're just actively punished all the time
Exactly what I was saying. That's the definition of Extraction Shooters. You don't like it? Maybe It's not for you, but there are plenty of people that like that sort of gameplay.
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>>558879495
>>558879504
have fun with only 5000 players I guess?
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Does it cost Sony money when I refund Marathon on Steam?
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>>558879552
I don't need a million players playing to shoot someone anon. So yes, even 500 players would be more than enough. I don't think you understand the genre.
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>>558879372
You need to understand that the only joy i get from playing this game is killing players, nothing personal
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>>558879178
>lose
>winner gets to have your clothes your shoes and your ball
>now you have to play naked at a disadvantage
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>>558879553
I don't think they get any money unless your card was charged, so cancelling should just cancel the pending charge, unless you were already charged
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>>558879642
>you have to play naked
um... hey...
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>>558865062
>bungie adopted cod mmr
Lmfaaoooooo
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>>558879178
>>558879642
LMAO
yea its more like that
this game isn't a fair sport you can compare it too
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>>558879193
The problem is that Marathon doesn't do anything unique. Yeah the artstyle and design is insane, but the actual gameplay is tepid and uninteresting.
Even when I played slowly and methodically, clearing corners and listening for sound cues, I found the game bland.
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>>558879642
Holy shit, this guy just invented hardcore football
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Does this game have friendly lobbies like arc raiders?
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>>558879697
The game is badly desiged, the fact that all the guns are the same but retextured on its own shows they do not understand why people play these games
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>>558879738
lol
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>>558879642
>You always have the option of playing the school tweaker with above average stats and raid the locker room for stuff to pawn
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>>558879738
right now, no
people speculate maybe when you have to buy the game, but even watching Peanut, nobody uses their mics and the few times he goes
>SIR SIR
>DO YOU HAVE A NIFTY DEFIBRILIATER FOR A GOOPA
he just gets immediately thirsted in what looks like 2 bullets
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>>558879885
>eceleb schizobabble
/mg/ is doomed
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>>558879927
Streamers decide if a game lives or dies in 2026
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>>558879927
this is an eceleb genre. get used to it.
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My 1X-coded shell died to PvE again...
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>>558880128
dying feels so bad in this game
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>>558880260
How? Literally just finish your objectives
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>>558878806
We need to normalize using your shield as a friendly signal.
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>>558880260
I think the problem is how long it takes to get into another match and then another fight with real people, its fucking dumb as shit that i have to WAIT in a QUEUE for 2 other random people who can't play this game for shit just to die in 2 seconds to a sniper that i can't see.

Seriously, whoever designed this shit was probably masturbating looking at something like Rainbow six Siege and they said
>Lets do that but worse and boring and with 500 times more walking
No thanks Bungie
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>console matches pop instantly
>pc matches have 5 minute queue times
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I unironcally had more fun with Highguard
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>>558880394
??? i always found games instantly. sucks to be you i guess
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>>558880482
its literally made for the console audience, cant tell you how many times I've seen
>OMG
>WE FINALLY GOT TARKOV BUT FOR CONSOLES
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>>558880535
nta but it takes me at least 3 minutes to get a crew in the US.
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>>558880614
I am in Argentina and it takes about 3 here too
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>>558880614
I'm in Peru and it takes me about 3 too
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Does anyone know how big the lobbies are right now in solo? I killed 5 players in this match and I'm curious if there's more to kill
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This game kinda blows
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Can anybody tell me the appeal to this genre? The more kitted out you become the more reluctant you are to actually engage in combat in fear of losing stuff. I don't get the incentive here
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>>558880614
eu and insta queues, was playing well into the night too last night
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>>558880942

>>558879256
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>*powers stances in ur lobby*
Yeah I play Vandal in solo what of it? Keep on walkin'.
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>>558864203
Idk if you looked at the upgrade trees when you move things along but you eventually hit a point when Rook basically loads in like a terminator. I know it’s cringe to give more credit to something that still is contingent on just a random interaction and trying to “theorycraft” but I imagine if people have issues how stuff can go now, they’re really not going to like when people have their guys squared away on faction trees, some of the stuff you can do is very nice and actually starts to offset short comings or scarcity of health items and other things like that
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>>558880942
Don't be afraid to lose your shit for one, it's easy to get it back
Also just push the objective
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>>558865062
Lmao fucking knew bungie was testing meddling of matchmaking in Destiny before shipping it . Makes me wonder if there’s a shitter lobby outlier protection where if you died a ton and have shit for stats you are in a bubble until you basically have a successful run
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>>558881308
it feels like that when watching streamers, I honestly think a dev saw Peanut fail 10 matches in a row that he loaded into his game and died to him and cloakzy even though he had amazing gear
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>incentive to use cheaper gear
>incentive to camp
game is not for me i think
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>>558865340
It’s a classic situation of making things too forgiving for everyone but fucking annoying in hands of unemployed people and tryhards. Guy I played with was some CoD D lister I found out and like the ttks are just too fucking low that it’s not even fair with certain engagements
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>>558881472
Why? There's literally no reason to use free kits unless you want to unlock a skin
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>>558881472
You can literally get the MIDA sponsored kit for free which gives full meds + a good gun + enough ammo to wipe a full squad

That is what i do, get the free gear, load in, rush towards the closest spot i think there are players and either kill them all or die
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>>558866574
Are they the things that just fuck up people’s screens like a flash bang
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>>558881676
They turn off your shields and abilities
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I enjoy the game but its schizophrenic design philosophy infuriates me more and more the more I think about it. Gameplay-wise the game is completely, absolutely 100% PVP - and yet they wasted so much time, care and effort on exactly the things that PVPtards do not give a single flying fuck about whatsoever.
>extremely cool desolate and foreboding atmosphere
pvptards do not give a fuck, pvefags do not give a fuck out of necessity because stopping to smell the flowers in a game like this is tantamount to suicide
>great sound design and ambience
>soundtrack reminiscent of gits and neotokyo but moodier
pvptards turn off all ambient sound and music so they can hear footsteps and gunshots
>unique and thought-provoking aesthetic plus all that time wasted on making graphical upgrades from the first alpha
pvptards set everything to low and disable whatever they can for the sake of any minute advantage in visual clarity, end result being the game looking as bad as the initial alpha anyway fucking kek
>added more shit to do on the map, perimeter for example never used to have a boss on it
engaging with any aspect of the pve at all basically equates to yelling across the lobby "I'M HERE RIGHT HERE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RAPE MY ASSHOLE WHILE I AM DISTRACTED AND HURT"
>pve is genuinely difficult and threatening
pvptards utterly despise being challenged by anything but other players, they literally just view the bots as an annoyance that gets between them and killing other players, and on the pve side again you're a sucker if you engage them
>worldbuilding and lore setting up the mystery of what happened to the colony
pvptards literally could not give less of a fuck

What is the point of any of this shit when fundamentally the game is designed to be a middle finger for the exact kind of player that any of this actually appeals to? Can anyone explain it to me? What the fuck is sony doing not tardwrangling these devs into, at bare minimum, figuring out what game they're even making?
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>>558881441
it was 18 deaths in a row, actually
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just died to an invis guy
all my apes gone
uninstall
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>>558882334
A streamer died 18 times in a row? Is he good at these games?
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>>558882458
unironically yes, he frequently 1v3s people in another game
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>>558882325
>Gameplay-wise the game is completely, absolutely 100% PVP - and yet they wasted so much time, care and effort on exactly the things that PVPtards do not give a single flying fuck about whatsoever.

The prevailing theory is that the game was reworked from a PVE game to a PVP game, so they had all that work done already.
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>>558868564
Don’t worry the cash shop will be there and pestering you
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>>558882458
>A streamer
He's not just "a streamer." He's TheBurntPeanut. He's the #1 streamer in the world. Show some respect.
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>>558882581
That begs the question of where the pve is. The NPC variety is a bit lacking. But it does explain the sheer lack of content if they had loads of boss fights and raids they just turned off.
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>>558869126
Expect at least a DLC paywalling new maps and characters
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>>558882325
Just saw another person asking them to remove the AI
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>>558870387
Uhm chud, Body Type 2
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>>558882325
Bingo.
That's the most important problem with the game. They put all that cool shit in which has a twofold issue, it attracts a kind of people that abhors the actual core gameplay loop as evidence by all the crying in the thread, and it delivers all that cool shit to a core audience of people that not only give a fuck but actively hate.
Tarkov goons live in a brown and olive drab world with rusty ak-47 dildos up their asses dreaming of scavenging inside destroyed soviet buildings, they couldn't give a fuck about colors and sci-fi shit or the amazing ambient sound design and absolutely marvelous music of this game.
So in a quest to bring both of these communities together they fucked it up so badly that they've done the opposite.
The casuals can't stand the gameplay and the hardcore extraction shooter people can't stand the art direction.
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>>558871920
Rook grew on me because a lot of the edge is taken off and you can get an idea where most remaining people are left, yoink shit and just fart around. Idk it’s comfy if you’re not super over zealous and biting off more than you can chew. I neeeed Arachne late upgrade Boomstick where you’re always loading in with shotgun and ammo, the amount of times I basically spawned next to a team and could clown them with a shotgun is alot
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>>558882989
Oh shit, is that why there are people saying the game gives them a headache?
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I actually love this game bros
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>>558882325
>pvptards turn off all ambient sound and music
I'm not a pvptard, but I legit don't even remember the last time I played a game with stock music on, it prob was during the ps2 era. I just prefer to have my own stuff in the background largely because back in the day most games just had shitty bombastic music when I was a kid I'd have mtv or an FM radio on in the background
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>moths
>woman gasping in ambience
this some sort of satanic bullshit again isnt it
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>>558875278
That game gave me unrepairable psychological damage playing it legit. Like the Stanford prison experiment on steroids. Guy we played with’s very slow Mexican cousin went ape shit after a group drowned his anime named animals and literally turned into an anime villain getting revenge and collaborating with other people on the server. Taking peoples shit and sticking it in areas on the volcano and mountain where it can clip through the depths of hell etc
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>>558883913
just figuring this out?
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>>558877564
They’re in random things and on AI bodies etc, often they give you the zone you gotta go to and a place on the zone like Hauler , Balcony or tunnels maintenance office
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>>558882701
>But it does explain the sheer lack of content if they had loads of boss fights and raids they just turned off.
See, if the game had like 10 maps and a fucking ARMY and i mean the entire map covered in MILLIONS of enemy bots i would be down for that, also more visually impressive enemies, we literally fight the same copy pasted enemy with different name in this game
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This game really shouldn’t have pushed the hero characters, Triage being a borderline mandatory pick is as annoying as Apex was early on with lifeline
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It's crazy, they did not change SHIT since the play test

Npcs are still a net drain on resources. Items are still scifi junk that you can't identify at a glance, so inventory management is confusing and annoying. TTK is maybe even lower and players still make zero noise while moving, so whoever engages the NPCs first is basically forfeiting the match.

And there's still a character with invisibility. Just think about how retarded that is. Invisible.
>But it's not true invisibility!!
It's a fucking low TTK fps extraction shooter, the extra .2 seconds it takes to notice the clear outline is more than enough to swing every fight in their favor. I played for 8 hours last night and it's disgusting how many fights we won by running up on squads trying to PVE and letting our invisible guy entry frag.
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its been 2 days, have they "listened to feedback" and changed anything besides fixing the mics?
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>>558882989
I love Tarkov and i don't mind the art direction, my problem is that the gunplay is mid destiny 2 tier, the gun customization is pathetic, the shells are honestly mid and almost overwatch tier.

Its just mediocre, its not interesting, its derivative in the worst of ways
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>>558883913
Silkworms turn into moths anon
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>>558873075
That's all PvP games really.
There's nothing lasting in them, you get a set of heroes a few maps then what you do is bait people into buying skins so that they have buyers remorse and go "well Im in to deep now"
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>>558884351
Oh no colors. save me. I'm going insaaaaaaaane.
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>>558873075
Real Bungie died 10 years ago.

This is goyslop for the masses at the behest of Sony japanese kikes
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>>558884803
yikes
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>>558882325
>>558882989
These are the best takes I've seen yet. I'm more of a PVEtranny when it comes to shooters, the whole "walk around looting for 10 minutes and have a 30 second firefight" gameplay of tarkov/pubg never appealed to me. But this game being free this weekend, being bungie, and having a unique style made me give it a try. Obviously it's not the right game for me, but I feel like there are a lot of things about it I like, and there is a game I could have liked somewhere in there.
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>>558884927
AIEEEEEEEE THE COLORS NIGGERMAN I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNEEEEE
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>>558884707
supposedly they upped player spawns on to increase pvp activity
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>>558885203
>>558885087
My bigger problem with the colors is that they don't actually make anything different stand out from the background, its just random colors for the sake of random colors. The UI has a similar issue
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why isn't marathon's playercount going up
its the weekend

log into the game you dumb motherfuckers, this is such a bad look
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The game is simply way too hard.
I'm playing assassin to roachmaxx but i cant even extract.
I played maybe 15 raids and i died in every single one of them.
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>>558885375
Literally just pop smoke in sit in the extract
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>>558885425
>killed by other team
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>>558885353
I already uninstalled, its a waste of time, its a good thing i tried the game so i won't regret not buying this goyslop
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>>558885353
Do the needful and log in!
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>>558885375
Go to a guarded extract then when the npcs come run away. Then get back into it and let the npcs down you and keep you safe until extract happens.
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wow solo is easy
everybody is running the shit kits
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My 1X-coded Shell just got this error in solo queue...
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>>558884657
best team comp is recon/triage/assassin?
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>game too hard for casuals
>too slow tempo and too fast TTK for hardcore mfs
dead on arrival
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>>558886087
so far the only people that like it are going
>YEA YOU JUST HAVE TO PLAY FOR A FEW HOURS
which even if true, that's like days for the casual person with a job, maybe that's fun for the pvp guys who can play a bunch?
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the AI voice lady sounds like a tasco self checkout
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>>558886196
why are casual gaming dads on 4chan now? reddit is for you nigga.
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>>558886317
Anon, this is the site for oldies past their prime.
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>>558886317
4chan is reddit 2.0 now desu
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>>558886196
>>YEA YOU JUST HAVE TO PLAY FOR A FEW HOURS
I played it for 10 hours
I starte to enjoy it at 5 when i got into regular PvP and was dunking on people all the time but now its just boring, the guns are all the same, the maps are all the same, its the same repetitive bullshit over and over. I just don't care to play this anymore
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>>558886394
This poster is the wildfang baki of /mg/
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>>558885375
Update i died 7 times now.
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>>558886363
no, nigga. reddit is for you.
>>558886379
>nsfw board
might as well be.
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>>558886317
Fuck you faggot, I grew up with this place, you just heard about it on reddit
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>>558886317
4chan is a retirement home at this point
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>simpleflips was in my lobby
cool
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>>558886498
get out you dumb casual faggot. noone wants to hear the garbage your calcified brain comes up with
>>558886504
gg
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>>558886497
>>558886675
esl zoomer, you are not welcome here

t. unc
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It will never be good. Bungie will never fix it.

Its over
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It just needs another 6 years of development, then it will be good.
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>>558886675
this game should be PvE
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>>558886087
The entire game feels like a oxymoron for me. You have, arguably, incredible looking aesthetics, design, and theme language; great music and the Marathon lore is rich with a lot of depth and there's three games with tons of story and plot to bounce off of. You also have beautiful graphics

But, you make a game targeted not only for the PvP Genre but a SUB-genre of PvP; Extraction Shooters and PvP players don't care about visuals, graphics, music, story and lore at all - I've been playing the Slam since it started and 9 outta 10, hell 10 out of 10 times I'm with guys who are high out of their mind who have 10 K/D but will passively look at a rock and THEY LITERALLY WENT "huh, wonder what this game is about" to their friend and their friend going "who cares, I just want to kill another player" proceeding to extraction and then going "Wanna go play Battlefield after another round of this?"

Anyone who likes PvE and or PvP and PvE can't even enjoy anything because of it being an Extraction Shooter and PvP only players don't care about any of the design, story, lore, graphics, music because all they want to do is fight players and constantly whine that they have to deal or waste ammo on the UESC patrols.
I can't tell you how many times Ive come across players that are Level 20 to 30 atm and still have the starting quest just after the beginning quest; yeah it's a Server Slam but they don't even know about the talent trees or anything like that; I had to tell them about it and they got all excited

WHOS THIS GAME FOR?

My honest to god opinion on this game is that its good but its bland and mediocre trying to capalize on to many gaming genres; they either need to go a little more into the PvE akin to something like Division and Division 2 or completely remove any semblance of talent trees, experience points, currency, cores, and all the other gimmicks and just go full Overwatch or one of the other Counter-Strike clones.
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>>558886924
>>558886934
it needs a campaign mode, my friend bought this thinking it had a story mode that will unlock when you buy the game, like the halo demos back in the day, and another friend had to explain extraction shooters don't have a campaign and he refunded
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>>558886992
Its literally just Destiny 2 movement, my warlock 10 years ago could do that shit

>>558886934
The PvE is a boring snoozefest
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>>558886730
>esl
what gave it away
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>>558886992
>one hit gun
Maybe I should stop using free kits
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>>558887092
What's in the game I wouldn't even consider PvE Anon. If anything the UESC are just environmental threats akin to the lightening strikes you periodically get
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>>558887181
you're literally the only person in this thread shilling for it and were posting a ton yesterday too, it's not hard to tell
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>>558887285
Yeah, i agree to that, the game itself feels as though it was designed around PvP and people waiting in the shadows to hear gunshots to go find ppl to murder.
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>>558885652
your library is very telling anon.
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ok im done the game doesnt get any good even if you try to enjoy it, its just a boring waste of time
already uninstalled
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>>558887379
WHAT
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>>558887025
Hey, you didn't have to use that incase picture
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>>558887025
Good post.

I honestly do not understand the point of this game, 90% of the loot is junk that clutters your inventory, it literally does nothing. The more i played the game the more i realized the only real reason to play it is to go shoot other players, that is truly it, its all pointless beyond pvp. I actually feel really bad about murdering people because i can tell there are many people playing on consoles or with controllers and i can notice and its extremely unfair and unfun for them, legit if you play this game with a controller you stand no chance against a dude with a mouse, i can literally lock into your head in a fraction of a second
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More PVE, please!
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Is there any reason to run a class other than the invisible dude for solo? Getting the drop on everybody for free without having to worry about a gank from the rest of the squad seems like an insurmountable advantage for solo play, especially when you're sound whoring. That and safe exfils.
I'm having fun, but getting resources for upgrades sucks ass. I want the melee upgrades but I can't for the life of me get any of the Arachne upgrade resources.
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This game is ass
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>>558887658
I like to run Recon purely for thrills and for the free grenade robot to vent people out of buildings
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its marathover
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>>558879449
>Cygames became woke and ruined uma musume with DEI
Lol, QRD?
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>All the kiketoobers going:
>Add VOIP, this will fix the game
>Added VOIP
>No one uses it

At some point you have to realize that these people have literally no idea what they are doing
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>material grinding
Okay this shit is actually ass
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>>558875193
This is my first experience with the genre (because it was free, and the marketing was neat), and it's...fine, I guess? Mostly just rather boring. I play Triage with trio randos and have about a 50/50 on extracting properly. Encountering other players is a pain in the ass, and it's hard to get your bearings to complete objectives because you always have to be on the lookout.

The optimization is great and the graphics are neat, but it probably would've been better single-player. I might've actually bought the game then.
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>>558887635
damn that actually looks fun
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>>558886992
I have that gun and am im afraid to bring it with me to runs in case I lose it
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>>558887914
>Reputation grinding
The entire progression system is cancer.
And it even has seasons so its all a waste of time
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>>558883635
We wuz robots n shiieeeet!
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>>558887914
>>558888013
and apparently the seasons are going to be mandatory, not optional
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>>558887883
There's an event that takes place in America and there are a few generic mob (not named) black Uma (basically just darker skin and cornrows/wavy hair) in it
Basically a nothingburger
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>>558888062
cute
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>>558888062
LOL
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>play 30 raids
>cant even complete a single extraction
Fuck do i have to do?
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>>558888062
>just a dark skin slider
kek
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>>558886992
that dmt reload anim, lol. don't get me started on the movement
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>>558888183
Are you going out of your way to pointlessly fight UESC and players instead of doing your objectives?
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>>558887658
Realistically there are only three good shells.
Assassin, Recon, and Triage
You already know why Assassin is good, Recon is incredible at pinging enemies or knowing when other players are pinging you the trick is, is that you only want to use your Ult when you're inside a structure so it's harder for the yellow bubble be seen by other players; on top of that they have a Spider Bot that can do two things, the biggest is getting other players out of hiding but if your Ult is down and your friends don't have eyes on it the Spider Bot will GO TO them and if you have the Ult up so you can see blood spillage and aim the spider bot at the blood spots itll go even further to find them
Triage is incredible because you give everyone a healing bot that stays on them until it runs out of juice and you can be quite a distance away from them and if they start an engagement pop a food buff to buff your friend who could use it or heal them if need be
They then have range insta rez and they have a third ability that lets you super-charge yourself briefly to take a few more hits

The worse shells for the majority of players unless you're REALLY good at PvP and especially Extraction Shooters is Vandal. Their entire kit is useless and unless you have rare or higher cores and implants they're basically a wasted spot on your team because their gun arm does shit damge without its cores and implants and the agility ult is only good if you can use smokes so people cant see you a billion miles away with your rainbow sandy from Cyberpunk going off. Same can be said for Destroyer but it sits in the middle between the three best and the worse shells in the Server Slam
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>>558887898
Bungie has specifically made a game designed for people who want to treat this as a death match.
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>>558888316
I try to go in a building to loot stuff i need for quests and unlocking perks, but i always get killed no matter what.
I'm terrible at FPS i know but so far it feels like it's a game that you either need to be a 20something on caffeine and adderal or a boomer that has played 15+ years of FPS, to do even decently.
Like i spent probably 5 hours playing it and i have NOTHING to show for.
I dont even care when i get "good" gear anymore because i know it will go to waste.
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I didn't even realize this game had abilities or ultimate's
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>>558888529
the tutorial fucking sucks to be fair
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>>558888505
I agree but at the same time the PvE element is way too fucking easy, there is no real fun or threat from the AI. People are devolving into shooting one another becuase they are literally fucking bored.
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>>558888369
>The worse shells for the majority of players unless you're REALLY good at PvP and especially Extraction Shooters is Vandal.
She's for Apex predator cock. Your small extraction shooter penis isn't enough to satisfy her.
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>>558888505
You can really tell when there are Bungie employees or friends and family of Bungie when they make brief posts that are extremely finale and their writing, like speaking a truth or law and having no shame and believing what they're typing is correct and the decisions they've made for Marathon are the right ones instead of admitting they failed.

They usually write like a MOSSAD Isreali agent
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>>558888594
>literally fucking bored.
No, that's how you progress, you have to steal loot other people bring in, everything else isn't worth looting
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>>558888524
I'm new to extraction shooters and I still do decently well. Try doing objectives so you can at least get a green shield/meds and then focus on doing objectives over diving over somewhat worthless loot.
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How do I do the Nucaloric intro contract? The door to the infested building doesn't open. I can't E it.
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>>558888586
it's a bungo tradition at this point. the new player experience is ass even in a brand new game
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I’m gonna spawn in as rook and kill somebody for no rewason.
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squadfill is unplayable once again
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>>558888752
It's retarded because most of the time this isn't the case but in this case you can jump onto the roof and break a vent to jump in. You do this once in the tutorial but I forgot because it pretty much has no gameplay relevance.
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>>558888183
Same. Why couldn't they just make a normal game. The aesthetics are great yet they wasted it on one of the most retarded slop genres.
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>>558888678
I've also noticed the mossad part at least on 4chan, they use a lot of demoralization tactics and meme about "muh culture war". I don't understand what their endgame is but the only thing they're achieving is less preorders for the game, but it does sound feasible that a company like Bungie would receive support from them.
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>>558888828
I'd quit if this happened to me
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>>558888889
Hopefully I can make somebody quit.
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>>558888752
Go in through the roof. The id and the terminal are in the same building.
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>>558888886
Meds
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>>558888524
>I dont even care when i get "good" gear anymore because i know it will go to waste.
The gear is like 60% all the same pointless garbage, even the shield upgrades aren't nearly as substantial as they seem. You can kill people just fine with grey gear and a knife
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>>558888369
Worst part is fucking Thief has mobility and can scan shit ,deduce where people are if they looted boxes or not ,steal their shit, has eyes with robot drone view that can ping and if she has line of sight with X-ray so it makes Vandal even further pointless. Some of the Thief only cores are stupidly strong as well
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>>558889001
Have you never gone to one of the gabe newell threads on /v/? They really don't even try to hide themselves, this site is unironically flooded with them.
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>>558889053
Shells like Triage and Thief feel like full kits but then Vandal and even Destroyer seem like half-tossed together ideas
Like no one in their fucking mind is going to use Destroyer shield - at least I haven't. LIke with Vandal it just self-pings where you are to other Runners so they can just going around you and behind your team completely to mog you.
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The problem as I see it with Marathon is where’s Cortana? I want to fuck her
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>>558889342
ONI, duh
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>>558888678
People forget the original gamer holding cell of internet psychos used to be essential weaponized die hards really took off with the bungie forums. Like there is a level of neurodivergence there that would make Cleve Blakemore seem like the most adjusted person on earth.
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>>558889342
She's literally merged with you but she doesn't have a sexy body you can mindfuck.
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>>558889342
Yea its missing all the good stuff
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>>558889238
>Vandal and even Destroyer seem like half-tossed together ideas
The problem i noticed with both of those is that those skills are simply not needed, you don't need more mobility because you are already decently fast unless you are running away or something and you don't need more firepower either because runners are made out of paper.
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>>558889342
as far as i understand, that's halo: you're looking for durendal.
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AAAAA DON'T HURT ME FRIENDLY FRIENDLY I'M A LITTLE ITTY BITTY ROOK
*OHKOs you with a shotgun*
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>>558889463
literally never happens
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>>558889463
its more like
>"Whats up fellow gamer, I'm friendly, just lettting you know I am hiding here to not sur-"
*>shot*
>*murdered*
game is full of sociopaths
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>>558889238
They tried to make Vandal seem like a continuation of Destiny 2’s Hunter streamer bait fantasy of all “movement tech” and outplaying somebody on that but it’s like when she burns up heat, barely is that much more capable or has extreme use for double jump(so many battle areas don’t call for it or people can back off to equal ground),her ult is a bit whatever, and she has a bullshit wrist rocket you’re better off holding trigger down on any other gun, she really is such a poorly designed character. Destroyer I am not shocked is brain child of local fat fuck vindictive slob Kevin Yanes who thinks some big Titan defense guy is going to be a cheat code when so much of this game rewards raw aggression in spades. I’m not hating this game but it gives me vibes back to very early apex when there was characters that were so ruthlessly outclassed
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>>558888678
>You can really tell when there are Bungie employees or friends and family of Bungie
Bungie employees are not posting on 4chan.
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i finally looked at the shop and where do you even buy new shields?
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>>558889603
>Game attracts crackers of all ages and kind
>Sociopaths
Checks out really. Rather have them doing this in Marathon than in real life somewhere because they became incel brained.
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Bungie doesn't have the employees to spare for 4chan shitposting.
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>>558889695
look at nucaloric upgrades
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>>558889459
Is she sexy?
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>>558889695
You have to unlock them first by doing a faction quest, I think?
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>>558889656
You just have to play for hours until the heat is unlocked more
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>Name the name after the ship Marathon
>You can't actually play inside the Marathon

Why did they even stain the name of Marathon for this?
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>>558889665
Yea its probably the family members or paid indians honestly
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>>558876513
idk I wouldn't call the pve in hunt showdown particularly fun or challenging, but the pvp is great and fights are tense and fun. it's a feeling I can't seem to reproduce so far in marathon, I clutched 1v3 and revived my team last night and still wasn't excited for the loot or to play another run afterwards. like I'm forcing myself to play 10 hours in case it starts getting fun.
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>>558889817
That's for the PvE raid you unlock after you play long enough you can't refund, where you get shot in the back with all your good loot to do the raid
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Holy shit the railgun is ass
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>>558889817
Supposedly, the Marathon ship is a map that's coming in a later update for Season 1. But it's meant to be like the Cryo map IIRC where harder PvE challenges are.
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>>558889774
I haven’t looked at every node, does it hit a point when heat gets cooled down from faction upgrades? I do know that move of a quick crouch with knife out does seem to have things go down quicker a lot faster
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>>558875050
>Tarkov has
better customization across weapons and gear
better loot
better world design / maps
better quests / story progression
better gunplay
better sound design
Home base to build up
better inventory management
better vault management (ammo crates etc.)

This is objective fact, you can make arguments about cheaters but bungie games also have tons so that's a moot point
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What's the best class for me >>558888524 ?
I've been trying out assassin and roaching out but its not working so far.
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>>558889980
Wait, its not even coming out on release

Holy flop
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Okay I’m now queuing up with randos who I don’t talk to. Weeeeeeeeee
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>>558889872
>>558889980
>This
With how things are playing out in the Slam I doubt these "End-Game" scenarios will be good or well thought out
I don't know why Bungie always makes End-Game for the most hardcore, sweatlords of the 0.1% of the population.
They did this shit in Destiny 2 especially and it killed a good portion of the playerbase constantly.
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>>558890002
Should I get tarkov when it goes on sale? Or arc?
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>>558889980
>in a later update for Season 1.
>>558889872
>That's for the PvE raid

Does this company even know what the fuck they are doing? Why didn't they just the entire game inside the Marathon????? What the fuck

>You have to enter the abandoned and invaded by aliens Marathon ship with other scavs
>PvEvP ensues
>Makes perfect sense
>Instead set it in a random fucking colony mentioned in a literal text dump

Bros...

Its over, like unironically, i am not memeing, this company has literally no fucking clue whatsoever what they are doing
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>>558890002
>better world design / maps
Exploring Interchange at launch was an absolute blast.
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>>558889603
That's just how shit the how extraction shooter genre is. Mixing pve and pvp is just retarded.
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>triage
I don't know why people are glazing this shit. The TTK is so low, healing will NOT save you in a firefight. It's really just for chip damage. And insta rez, while nice, is useless considering that most fights are won/lost within 20 seconds of engagement and full killing is trivial. Noob trap shell that sounds op on paper but actually blows in game
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>>558890287
I'm just refreshing the steam charts every so often now, the playerbase clearly doesn't care about the PvE part of PvPvE, even reddit threads asking to remove the AI
and this sucks as a PvP game
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>>558887025
i wish i could draw like this
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>>558890421
cause people are trying to play the PvE and it works against robots
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>>558890287
I'm prodomonitaly a PvE player but from my understanding the levels on the colony are meant to be where you progress to get geared.
First you're suppose to go to Perimeter into Dire Marsh (blues and purples appear more often and even higher chance of yellows compared to Perimeter) and then you move along to Outpost.
Once at Outpost youre suppose to gear up completely then head onto the Marathon

The issue though, at least in the Slam is that people go to Dire Marsh get their good shit and then merc all the players on Permimeter because a majority of the quests related to NuCal and Traxus, the last missions you can do have you going back to Perimeter after doing investgations in Dire Marsh

So the PvPers are just camping Perimeter at North and South Pole for NuCal and the other locations for Traxus
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>>558889665
lol #RapeBungie
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>>558890190
There is a free version called singleplayer Tarkov, its singleplayer so no other humans, but you can also have the blessing of never dealing with cheaters and you can test out what the game is like.

Also, mods.
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>>558890054
>>558890149
I don't get it either because Cryo Archive/the Marathon ship is said by gaming websites to "unlock" during season 1, but at the same time it features the most challenging hazards and environments in the game and "7 increasingly challenging vaults waiting to be opened", but it sounds increasingly PvE focused in a game where the playerbase shoots each other on sight. Unless they include a PvE mode specifically for this map, it sounds like an absolute disaster waiting to happen.
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>>558890190
Arc is very casual and simplified, it's enjoyable in its own way but you need to temper your expectations. I have fun with it still but find myself getting bored in it easily, the questing is very shallow and the loot is boring

Tarkov is hardcore in every sense of the word. You will be doing things like swapping armor plates in your body armor as they get damage in firefights. It's firearm customization is currently the industry peak and I don't think it will be surpassed. It now has a relatively compelling story and the general quests are more engaging than just "collect X loot" or "kill Y enemy". SPT was a great way to work your way into the game but now it's broken so you'd need to pay the additional cost for PVE. The main issue new players will have with Tarkov is the knowledge gap with experienced players, as these guys will rush spawns to kill you within 30 seconds, know where every look object and AI spawns, and can pick out your footsteps, weapon loadout, and exact position from across the map. It's far more brutal than Marathon however it's also much more rewarding to grow in both skill and knowledge.

Another option if you're working through the genre is Hunt. It has a bunch of its own problems but has a good variety of PVE enemies and the PVP is still pretty engaging. I never got into it on the same level but still put over a hundred hours and had a decent time
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>>558890617
LMAO
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>>558890421
>Give teammates heal buddy
>Have or find buff food that increases your shield and health
>Pop food buff when you engage
>Suddenly everyone is three times harder to kill ontop of trickle healing
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>>558875050
tarkov's core came from milsim and survival nerds, arma/dayz etc. then ecelebs that people like, liked it

marathon's core was probably supposed to be from destiny but lol they made those guys all angry and bitter before selling them the new game. and i've only seen ecelebs dogpiling Marathon, so they've already lost the narrative to the casual mob that the game is bad.
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>PvP psychoses feeling the moral high ground when they shoot you in the back
Yeah sure, Bungie is cooking with this one.
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stop riling yourselves up about maps

for better or worse bungies MO is to have long term story plans for what the do, their writers are well/over paid. complains about not enough maps during this technical test or day 1 launch are hot air because bungie is making live service slop that will add story beats over time, likely per season. it is also a guarantee that bungie has been handed notes about how helldivers is a success because of its galactic war story where they add new content with story justification. they will 100% be taking us along for a ride.

i do not take pride in this, but take it from a former d2 player that they have an abstract plan for content tied to story that will be implemented poorly.

criticize bungie and marathon for actually whats wrong for it, not that bungie doesnt let you queue into "endgame" with a sponsor kit
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>>558890002
Nigga are you really comparing a game with 9 years of feedback and development to one that just began testing with more than a handful of people?
Your points are valid but come on man, you can't expect a decade of progress in a few years
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After 50 runs of me getting shreked by people I can't even see, I finally managed to kill some clueless retard by shooting his back from high ground.

Extraction shooters are the future of gaming.
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>>558890536
>The issue though, at least in the Slam is that people go to Dire Marsh get their good shit and then merc all the players on Permimeter because a majority of the quests related to NuCal and Traxus, the last missions you can do have you going back to Perimeter after doing investgations in Dire Marsh
Wow. I wasn't aware of any of this, yesterday i went onto the marsh and i got pretty trash loot to be honest with you, i did notice the players i killed were much more aggresive and better geared though. I think they are buying gear or something. Although i didn't explore the marsh thoroughly, i kind of disliked the map design and went back to perimeter
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>>558890617
I was able to find out exactly what they're talking about.
Right now in the Slam you can sorta do this already and it's Gambit-tier if you know what that is from Destiny 2.

On Dire Marsh there is a part of the map that is being torn apart by some sort of alien bullshittery. If you walk around that area or the structures near by you'll find an Anomaly which USUALLY is a Vex Cube/Digital Cube of varying size that is Yellow-Tier.
WHEN you pick this up you are flagged by the entire map and the person who has it is on a THREE MINUTE timer to rush to a location to stabilize it and then, you have to extract with it all the while constantly being seen completely by other players until you leave.
Right now on the SLAM it does nothing but that Anomaly is basically how you, yourself get onto the Marathon for the "End-Game"

This will kill the game if the other issues dont
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>>558890670
>can pick out your footsteps, weapon loadout, and exact position from across the map.
Real
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>>558890869
Sure but at the same time, this is a AAA multi-billion dollar studio that managed once of the most successful live service franchises of all time for a decade. I don't think we, as paying customers, need to be making excuses for companies whose entire existence is to produce compelling products. If they haven't learned anything over that time, maybe they aren't in a position to be financially successful with their latest product?
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>>558890885
kek
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>>558890837
Bro, there is literally nothing to do in these "maps" we got
1 shoot AI
2 Shoot humans
3 loot garbage not worth the time it takes to even pick it up
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no one's playing this fucking schlock when it's goddamn free
legit DOA
comparisons with concord and highguard are going to turn out to be pretty spot on soon enough here if it's not already evident to you
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>>558890908
Most of the "good" loot is underground in Dire Marsh but even then its not 100%
There's a area with a vineyard/tomato plants with tarps over head and UESC farting around, there are latters that go down twice, one is a lightly frozen area and then another one below that.

Theres two more areas like this on that map at each large location, in them there are blink and youll miss it caches that you just need to walk up to and hack, they usually always drop blues and some times purples
Also there are lockers in both maps that are usually in doors and are tucked into the corner of a doorway and usually always casted in shadow

They always have really good green guns and blue guns in them
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>>558891016
What the fuck

This sounds like Wildstar, and that game died for basically the same reasons
>yea we're appealing to the hardcore raiders
>heres this complicated shit you have to do to raid
>so hardcore right
>everyone just stops playing
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You know what bothers me the most? How uninspired the enemy designs are

Its literally just variations of robot that shoots you, did these niggers really spend 6 years asking themselves how to design a humanoid robot with a gun?
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>>558891347
Game dev is hard, chud
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>>558891174
i am truly shook that a technical test does not have much to do aside from run around shooting people. who couldve thought that 4 days of meaningless progression that will be wiped doesnt have any depth. if you are forming opinions about anything other than right now then youre retarded
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>shout friendly at three different people
>don't fight back
>each one kills me without question
Also five people at one point of interest seems really high.
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>>558891347
It's so funny, the skinny robot moves fast, the fat robot has more health and sometimes a shield. The boss robots have the destiny vex shield that bungie became obsessed with adding to every enemy during their match-game phase
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>>558891291
That is my exact thinking when I learned about it and Bungies MO from Destiny 2
They always target endgame to the 1% to the 0.1% which is only ever targeted for content creators because they have the amount of time and or skill to do it and show it off but no one be it normie/casuals to semi-hardcore casuals will ever be able to do this
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>>558891419
Usually i would say you are right, but i think its pretty clear at this point that this is the whole game, the only reason they didn't give us more maps is because they literally haven't finished them and are in dev
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>>558891419
You think the game will have more content? Why? These maps are the final product.
>>558891291
Wildstar was also just buggy as fuck.
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The game is just boring and frankly as much as I like the sci fi, there's always books. Even the new ZA/UM demo was more interesting than this game, there's nothing to do. I enjoyed the lore screens though they never reach the heights of the original.
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>>558891347
I'm trying to watch Peanut genuinely play this game and nobody can tell what the fuck is who and whats a player and how hard an enemy is
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>>558890837
the two maps we have so far are so boring
so at launch over half the maps suck
not good for an extraction shooter where the maps are 75% of the content. so we have to have a miserable time playing this shitty maps to maybe get into the one good map and guess what? you'll be insta thirsted by the other pvp players now forcing back into the shitty maps.

on paper this sounds cool but its just going to be a pain the ass, even moreso when the maps youre supposed to farm on fucking suck.
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>>558891419
>my friend that thought "Obviously this game will ship with a campaign on release"
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>>558890837
>5 days before release
>technical test
man...
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>>558890190
Don't get Tarkov, it's nothing like this game. The only similarity is the pure PvP where PvE is annoyance, except Tarkov PvE is actual abysmal dogshit compared to this.
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>>558891751
They shoulda had a map that looked like the city on Neptune from Destiny 2s Lightfall
Instead they look like modded Starfield rng maps you go to when you land on a planet
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>Movement sucks
>Map design sucks
>Player count sucks
>Time to kill sucks
>UI sucks
>Weapons suck
>Music sucks
>Abilities suck
>Lack of voice chat sucks
>Challenges suck
The only thing to like about this are the visuals, if you like them. But I can see why a lot of people hate how it looks too. There's almost nothing to like about this game.
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>>558891826
I am thinking arc. I like my lobbies less crazy pvp than what i am getting in this kos fest.
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Server Slam? More like Server Gently Placed in the Ground because ain't nobody playing this.
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didnt realise you could res people after they've been downed and i've been quitting every match after i've died
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>>558890190
Arc for sure.
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>>558891626
>I enjoyed the lore screens though they never reach the heights of the original.
I want to be honest, i think they are safe edgy
They aren't true existential horror, they are just "Safe", you know what i mean? It isn't truly edgy, it attempts to make it mystical and shit but its not, and i am sorry to say it this way but i think it is abundantly clear that the writers of this game are not up to par to the idea they want to convey.
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>>558890869
According to linkedin, Battlestate Games has like 135 employees. Now that may not be accurate, but we know for sure that there's at least 800 employees working at Bungie and this game has been in preproduction for years with the backing of Playstation on top of that. After a certain point you stop forgiving Bungie's quirks.
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>>558892023
LMAO
the tutorial fucking sucks for this dog shit game
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>>558892037
but bugs lmao
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>>558891485
>>558891590
>this is the whole game
>These maps are the final product.
we have seen in game footage of the chrome penis aliens and from the original games and have a hard confirmation of vaults. they are holding certain content back for launch. how much it is compared to the 3 maps we already have idk and wont try and guess, but its something we havent seen.

>literally haven't finished them and are in dev
the software dev in me wants to be pedantic and point out that they will never be done developing, even on existing content. but yeah, at least these maps are probably locked in

>>558891751
personally im optimistic that there will be "endgame" reasons to go back for anomalies, but maybe they really have just settled on perimeter being noob central for all of the streamers to be bullies in
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>>558892037
I know what you're talking about. I didn't mention it because I did not think anyone cared to the same but the UESC entry in particular pissed me off. It's not written the way you would write about the space UN in universe. It has that annoying le hacker energy to it. Reminded me of cyberpunk but even more shit.
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>The Game Director for Marathon was the Game Director for Valorant
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Marathon/comments/1rh8j0q/it_all_makes_sense_when_you_realize_the_director/
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>>558890002
>better gunplay
I'll give you everything else but 900 hours of Tarkov I'm not gonna agree. The gunplay is regular CoD shit since .14 where they rebalanced recoil and made every gun into borderline the same thing.

>>558890869
Arc managed, why can't Bungie?
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>>558892052
> there's at least 800 employees working at Bungie
Do you really think there's 800 DEVELOPERS?
The more a company grows the more deadweight niggers get stuffed into it.
>After a certain point you stop forgiving Bungie's quirks.
I know jackshit about Bungie desu, I never played any of their other games, but there's a foundation of something cool here, the rest of it is fucked up but they can realize that and make the necessary changes, they've been listening to feedback since the first alpha test where pretty much everyone took a dump on it so hard that the negative sentiment still echoes among the sheep even now.
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>>558862326
He feels like the weakest class.
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>>558892281
>Valorant bad
>Heroes bad
Yes
>Better servers and sweats are in comp
Still a good thing
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>>558892257
>UESC entry in particular pissed me off. It's not written the way you would write about the space UN in universe. It has that annoying le hacker energy

I swear you can read my thoughts, the entire writings, every single dialogue, every single piece of text feels that way to me, they even gave random bullshit junk names that make it sound like you are picking up antimatter when you are probably just picking up the wiped hard drive of some fucker that was on the Epstein island or something.

It has a very childish l33t energy but not real, like fake reddit energy of people that arent in the know
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This game is so boring I want to puke all over my penis. For real. You just wander around and nothing happens. A few quick gunfights. Otherwise just wandering around and collecting nonsense loot. This game is so boring I want to poop myself.
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I ran past a player and he didn't hunt and kill me? Friendly acheived?
Then I finished my contract. Not sure if that means he can't do the terminal now, game is unclear on that.
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>>558887297
i literally didnt write a single shill post and had like 3 posts yesterday
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Best class for solo?
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>>558892257
No boobs
No ass
Literally just a head

yeah nah
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>>558892895
assassin
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>>558892694
THEY LITERALLY GAVE DUCK TAPE SOME CRINGE ASS NAME NIGGA
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>>558892445
>Arc managed, why can't Bungie?
One thing's for sure Embark knew what the fuck they were doing, it still took them around 5-6 years
Marathon on the other hand as an extraction shooter had 3-4? or something, supposedly it was going to be something else but they scrapped that halfway.
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>>558893013
what did they call it lmao
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>>558890002
Yeah but it's too late to get into Tarkov and there's still no console port which is the biggest population for Bungie dads
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>>558892896
I liked her for the AI thing and how factions reach out to you from Earth. Everyone there did a great job, the intro videos factions get are cool.
>>558892694
True, there's not the same spirit the originals had. Some old lore terminals could be super unhinged, the sci fi was just right. I don't even want to think of how "reddit" they will have Durandal acting, Durandal is fucking insane in a way that I don't think modern writers can do it justice.
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A STREAMER JUST GOT A DRINKABLE CHEESBURGER

>CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
HAHAHAHAH
SO FUNNY
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This game makes me wanna commit suicide in real life
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>>558893078
>reclaimed biostripping
For green
Blue has a different name

Legit, the most mundane shit is named like this
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Soloing is kinda hellish. The aI is too strong. The players are too aggressive. Trying ot extract is a coinflip.
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>>558893264
holy shit
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>>558893094
ABI is probably the best alternative to Tarkov at this point, more streamlined but not quite as shallow as AR, easy to build up a stash and still has base building for progression
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>>558892514
Bungie absolutely had that many developers working there at a certain point before they progressively laid off more and more people.
>I know jackshit about Bungie desu, I never played any of their other games, but there's a foundation of something cool here
I'll warn you as a Destiny player not to get too invested in Bungie. Their foundations are generally solid outside of nuMarathon which feels like it still has an identity crisis, but the studio will take you for a ride if you let them. They always say "We're listening" but they always implement something so fucking stupid that you basically have to push the company near bankruptcy to get them to backtrack, and they will try and nickle and dime you every chance they can. If not through good cosmetics locked behind microtransactions, they will lock certain content off behind a paywall. Don't listen to any shills saying "they won't do that this game!", they always will and need to do so to keep their cushy Bellevue studio afloat.
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There's no way this will flop
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>GUYS WE HEARD YOUR COMPLAINTS AND WE'RE GOING TO CRAM MORE OF YOU ONTO THE MAPS
>when i simply want a pve rendition of this otherwise poopyshitbutt game
thx bungo
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>>558893530
If they reduce the price by 50% I can see it working out. But right now they should be considering hitting the panic button and releasing the awesome pve raiding tier map they are holding to salvage players from this kos fest.
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>>558893660
Trust, these are the famous last words of the Highguard dev
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>>558893605
either this is all console players or it's an amazing example of a tiny minority of players yelling the loudest.
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>>558893365
>Soloing is kinda hellish. The aI is too strong. The players are too aggressive. Trying ot extract is a coinflip.
F-I-L-T-E-R-E-D
Just camp and win.
>B-but what if the other guy is camping too
Camp longer than him, and hear his footsteps, before making your move
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>>558893660
Say it with me anon.

This has mainstream hit written all over it
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>>558893527
Especially for all that's happened up to now, this is going to be stooping to like early access game scam levels of hustles. Go look at the shit Destiny has had that makes no sense for a game to be charging or limiting certain things as restrictively as it is with things.
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>use all melee damage increasing implants (ESPECIALLY the toxic knife one)
>solo as void
>run wherever there's gunfire
>invis and two hit any retard with blue shield or lower
>?????
>profit

Agility + Heat capacity destroyer with a WSTR shotgun is a close runner up second for satisfying kills, just keep boosting and jumping
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Both Arc and Marathon have no skill gap, because of fast TTK and limited movement.
Winning takes no skill. All you need is sound and patience

No skill needed.
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>>558893660
>kos fest.
Why add pvp then if people don't want to pvp, like in Arc where everyone is "friendly" (until they are not and you get backstabbed).
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i get the sense that sony wasn't just after an arc competitor but something they hoped would go toe to toe with like PUBG at its absolute height
bungie is going down the gullet for this absolute flop
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>>558893756
>or it's an amazing example of a tiny minority of players yelling the loudest.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN DESTINY 2 AHHHHH
THIS SAME THING, THE 1% AND CONTENT CREATORS AND THEIR SYCOPHANTS COMPLAINED AND RUINED IT FOR ALL OF US
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>>558893940
I could play this game all day
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>>558893940
its weird, i've never HEARD a single runner before seeing them. audio for bots is fine. but only find players because they are shooting or i see them first. i've stopped creeping around carefully because its pointless.
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>>558890617
The big secret I heard is that it's going to be like the "watchable" Destiny 2 raids , where they're going to try to hype some jackasses bruteforcing RNG to get quest item like keycards off 3 maps to take into 4 to get some specific vault thing, and that'll be "the artifact" that advances the story along or some absolutely hokey bullshit, because Bungie is like 10 years behind trends and overreliant on content creator slobs to make something more interesting than it really is.
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>>558893997
>bungie is going down the gullet for this absolute flop
200%

Bungie is 300% gonna die for this



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