>Suffering from Success edition[PoE 2]>Druidshttps://pathofexile2.com/druids>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212[PoE 1]Mirage League launches on March 6th>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3913392>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt>>558811646
SLAM LEAGUE
yeah im thinking frost blades
Marathon killed the Mirage momentum
two campaign, one shared endgame
Free
>>558875843seems DOA
I gotta be honest, I didn't expect nu-Marathon to be remembered by even shitposters, so I guess they've exceeded my expectations already
>>558875872It would have been better that way.
>>558875994Welcome.... to Marathon
Is my best bet for selling mirrors going to be as a seller on g2g or is there a way to make slightly less and sell straight to a reseller?
Who the fuck thought ground loot was a good idea? I will find them. And I will do terrible things to them.
poe2 was sabotaged
>>558875843>league same day as Slay the Spire 2 yeah the league is mega fucking dead
Imagine your job being to sell video game currency to whales in better countries.
>>558876165playing videogames for money is based
>>558875843Video killed the radio star
>>558876078Right now everything is gated behind league mechanics, abyss for abyss jewels, delve for fossils, sanctum/kingsmarch for raw currency, blight for oils, and so on, while monsters in maps give nothing but xp.
mcconnell said poe2 is dogshit trash and started laughing at it
>>558876052i need to make enough money to eat if anyone knows about this please respond.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWqwWHE2SzE>Worthless chaosGuys, as someone who takes a week to complete the Atlas.I'm fucked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWqwWHE2SzEIs he right?
make it so you have to pay 1c to enter a map.
>>558876424i think the point Gog is making is chaos will turn into exalts for trading
>>558876516Always.
>>558876424>>558876516I have never seen him do a single uber boss
>>558876105>roguelike deckbuild slopshan't
>>558876625have you seen a tree falling make a sound when no one is around? exactly
>run 2 maps in standard):<>run 2 maps, league mechanicO:
is empyrian THE guy?
It is kinda funny that annuls are supposed to be rare but they end up being dirt cheap. People really are gonna be bitching and moaning when they can't use annuls for free on any item they want.
>>558877052If my gear doesnt get the right stats I recomb it. Annuling only takes away the good stats.
>>558877052I annul flasks, so this is probably for the best.
Surely now that there's no chaos sinks left and they're making exalts drop more commonly, they're gonna update chaos recipe to be an exalt recipe instead
>>558876330what's a ruth bomb?
>no chaos sinksthis is why you pay 10d for a cluster
>>558877324it's ok, divine sinks are still in
Poe1fag playing rolling magma for the 200th time be like yo this game has a million different builds it's the best game ever
>>558877473
>he needs a strong jaw for my thickness
>>558877240They can just change chaos orbs to reroll magic and rare items and then they're useful again.
>>558877473stupid frog
They shoulda added divine shards and replace the old divine recipe with exalt recipe. Basically exalts and divines change places. They shoulda done that the moment the change ocurred.
>>558877473But I dont like rolling magma and thus never play it! I prefer shock mines with totems.
>>558877473do you think you look like a frog or somethin?!
when can i vibe build a char in pob
>>558877825Right now bro.
>>558877291you DON'T want to know...
>mark turns bald>game gets bettercoincidence?
Scorching Ray of Immolation hierophant was giga ultra mega buffed this league by totem placement changes and nobody realizes it because nobody knows how the skill works. Plus if you play it you're officially playing a 'gog-approved offmeta build. All I'm saying is look into it.
>int stack nerfedcaptainlance is going to get exposed biggestly this league
SirHog is my oshi
Mark won.
>>558878052If no one knows how the skill works how to you expect me to figure it out?
>>558877473yeah in poe1 you get forced to play a shit build for 30 levels, while in poo2 it's mandatory all the wayman, woodful really made this too easy
i already have a 100 hiero
Hard
>>558878243what? he plays the good poe?
>>558878052>totems>looking into itgood one
>>558878305he got 36/40 in Keepers (which is more than the average poeg player)
I'm still baffled that this is THE holy skill patch and they did nothing to buff Divine Ire so it's not the most clunky piece of shit skill in the game
>>558878378he bought the challenges thoughever. he admitted to it.
>shrine belt pre-nerfedThe Mageblood cartel won....
>>558878450qrd?
>>558878378>which is more than the average poeg playeryou're not gonna find me collecting lab shrines and doing useless vendor trades
What is the build called in poe2 where you lay down bow sentries or something like demon hunter in diablo3?
>>558878471
>>558878510Good :)
>>558878510classic nigggers
>>558878450>>558878510>make thing that looks cool and fun>tease it pre league>nerf it so it's completely useless once the league actually launcheswhy the FUCK do they always fucking do this shit?
>>558878584Because it fucks with the RMT side of poe.
>niggyd kills a build before it even launches again
>>558878478i got to 34/40 without looking at the challenges tab a single time and only had to equip a few grafts and kill a 70% quant exarch to get 36/40this might be a skill issue
Please suggest budget 4 voidstone buildsIf it involves spectres forget it
please help me with a starter build boysevery league i play some 3k life squishy glass cannon twink build but this league i want to start with a thick af tanky mf that can at least farm me enough currency to go back to being fragile twink build eventually
>>558878697>>558878772retaliate glad
fuck this i dont want to play the same kf build as everyone elseim going to league start banner champ slammer in ssfbtw and trannysition to cb banneranimeposter wonbannershill won
Bannermaxxer champion :)
>>558878693>this might be a skill issueindeed, you might be making up for your lack of really impressive achievement by collecting 100 darkshrines and doing useless campaign quests.
>>558878697>>558878772HoAg Glad lucky blocker. You literally cant fuck it up.
>>558878510i knew it had to be done, it would make every other belt a downgrade
any build guides for holy skills out?t. absolute fucking shitter with 800h never done more than 2/4 voidstones back in the day
me baiting poeg into starting a dogshit build
>>558878882retard wait for the new gems post before looking
>>558878882I'm just gonna play HH and build it almost exactly like VFoS.
>>558878882>pick holy skill you want>find build that matches tags on said skill>slot holy skill in insteadwala
>>558878697pohx.net
>>558878852just play the game lil guppy. i needed the respec points when i was switching builds
>wisdom scrolls drop as other currencies>equip perandus signet x2>drop 500 divines per map startingIt's that shrimple.
>>558878989shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't talk about it
>>558878838Did it during Merc league. Boring as fuck build.
>>558878964nothing in the game matches holy strike desu, and holy hammers also breaks from slam orthodoxy by using power charges
>>558878989I wish I had your client. My wis scrolls are dropping as augments and portals.
>>558878954reeeee ok>>558878959o-okay>>558878964at a certain point i don't know how to scaleor how to get certain build uniquesor where to startor or or
>ignite eviscerate ele absolutely dumpsteredGlad I got to play it last league, was a lot of fun.Basically unkillable, cheap, and uber viable.Thanks Mark!
>>558878989Sounds funny but not worth at allWith 3 rings you have 9% chance to drop additional wisdom scrollYou’d need to have thousands of monsters in the mirage for this to be felt. Maybe abusable who knows
>>558878697same builds as 3.27 except no pbod or mamba
>>558879082how? its perfectly fine
>>558878805>>558878871Ill check these out, if I don't like it I might have to do >>558878979Thanks bros
JONATROON
>>558879050Sounds like you will have to wait for someone to spoonfeed you then.
Wait just one second...Isn't agnostic MoM back on the menu with the regen shrine roll on that belt?
Holy Sweep would be good if it were a strike or a slam but it's nothing and has 0 scaling and is worthless. Holy Hammers is worse than nerfed Earthshatter and is worthless. Biden Blast might be a funny ignite skill but it's worse than Shield Crush for DPS. Minion holy skills are for bad players and no one should ever consider them.
>>558878989>drop 500 transmutes per map startingftfy
>>558878983call me when you do it on HC lil guptavius.I haven't killed 33 arguses since I started the game, you're obviously jumping through the hoops like a little doggy.
>>558879191they should make it a strike so you can get additional strikes, it would unironically make it a top tier skill
https://pobb.in/cJb22IPyLch8My build?Slayer cycloneIt's easy it's cheap and it works2nd build might be Guardian whatever is S+++++++ tier
>>558879050Unironically really excited to test out holy strikeOne of the most unique skills released. Has enough similarities to other skills to give you inspiration like AG of self reflection but never quite enough to make it 1 to 1
>>558879151Dunno why the smug tone, you said something dumb and I corrected you. You should be humbler and saying "oh shit you're right".
>Holy Strikeliterally why would you play this when slams got giganerfed?
>>558879320because it's a strike
>>558879320holy hammers is the slam skill, retard
>>558879320New skills most of the time are OP because well they're new
>>558879320Or not Holy Strike I mean Holy Hammers.
>>558878805yep this is it thanks. does anyone think the new shield of light skill will be any good for this build?
>>558879320Holy strike isnt a slam, its a strike/minion skill. You might mean holy hammers but like anon above said it doesnt play out exactly like other slams because you need power charges to play it optimally
>>558879375>>558879367yeah yeah yeah my bad I realized the mistake as soon as I posted it but you knew what I fucking meant
>>558879214why would i kill argus 33 times for the challenge when its literally free? all you have to do is play the game. i even have 5 of the options completed and you only need 4. no i was just farming some lab.>not even hcssfKWAB
>>558879320GIGA GUARDIAN HOLY STRIKE REVERB BUILD COME ON RUE YOU CAN DO ITor fubby heh
>>558879375>Kinetic Rain>all the bow skills that came out last leaguehaha yeah
>>558879320How did they get nerfed? Just because of the overexertion nerf?
>>558879414Won't know for sure until the gem info comes out
>>558879320Holy strike isn't a slam.And slams being "giganerfed" is a meme spoonfed to you by people who will be starting slams regardless and are trying to get some of their "infinity damage for no investment" back.New OE/AE numbers are fine. It was oppressive.>>558879381HH is incredible mechanically, and on top of that, it's fully conducive to being built without relying on OE to begin with (even though I think it will be a perfectly fine starter with OE).
>>558879375you were saying?
>>558879431hammers look good though. it depends if the hammers can overlap for it to do single target though
>>558879375Such as?
>>558878697Totems, traps, and maybe storm brand is back.Think about uber elder: Just run in a circle while attacking in some direction occasionally.
I already have the build I will play and then I have a second character I want to play but it's much weaker and essentially I have to make the build from the ground up, but it has a lot of potential because I can play it like I play the first build, same skills, it'll have better survivability but it'll require very strong gear to take off
>>558879475>why would i kill argus 33 times for the challenge when its literally free?Makes me wonder myself, but you're the one who posted photographic evidence of doing it.>not even hcssfI like trade because I like finding expensive shit I can sell, I'll never play SSF outside of gauntlets.
>new skills are always goo-
>Rue was already going to play elemental hit slayer>this patch gave it FREE triple damageWe won.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbxpN2WgQyspoeguy is up
>New skills most of the time are OP
>>558879678windburst is unironically good but it's fucking eye cancer
Holy Strike/Hallowing Flame Guardian has to be an OP build this league right?
>>558879730>Minionsno lmao
>>558879626why would you think the challenge was my reason for killing argus? do you even know how lab works, tradecel?
>>558879658ele hit was bait in keepers and it's still bait now
>>558879730Wont be OP due to being a strike skill but itll be good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqSejIUlnJQFA GOT IS STARTING HOLY HAMMERS
>>558879874tonky status?
>>558875771>chaos is worthless so roll my map 200 times to get maximum quantity and rarity>get no loot anyway since ground loot is shitget your magic find characters ready
>>558878052I think literally every totem build was buffed by that, right? Why Scorching Ray?
im fat dumb smelly and retarded. what build should i play?
>>558879730I dunno if it's OP but that's what I'm playing, and then I'm swapping into Static Strike when I get Farrul. Guardian is always easy to league start since you get the big glowing man.
>>558878510Typical hairless behavior
>>558879952wait for gog to announce his league starter
comparison is the thief of joy
>>558879952RF
>>558879805its going to be even worse than the surfcaster version because you no longer get +2 free strikes it would honestly be awesome if ruetoo baited people with the same shit build twice
>>558878124>want le cat points>no cam with a cathmm
>>558880043>and then I'm swapping into Static Strike when I get FarrulSounds gay. I'd play it all the way through. The synergy is already there and it builds itself.
I'm fatter, dumber, smellier, and even more retarded. Holy relic or animate ranged weapon?
>>558880110>because you no longer get +2 free strikesdon't need, slayer has aoe
>>558879919You actually want to replace your totems on that skill so the fact that they start casting faster means it's a huge multiplier to DPS.
>>558879874Going crit on a slow slam skill seems ass, unless you achieve 100% chance. Why not just go regular RT slams?
savanixxcyclone slayernuff said blud
>>558880224is this the setup? + headsman or lucky block ff jewels in trade?could be decent
IT'S UPhttps://youtu.be/OTlBWAXUCUc
>he is a jingakh
>>558880110it's still good. graft only gave +1 strike also, no?
>>558880298You'd be picking Inquisitor and staffs to hit 100% pretty easily, and when you do your ele damage bypasses enemy res. If the holy skills were just phys you'd probably better doing it normal rt slams. His pob is also missing the new acc nodes they said they're adding to the templar area so it might not even be that bad. But even then just put hits can't be evaded on your staff from the craft.
It is almost decided that I will start with exanguinante/Reap mines trickster.Now the question is what to do next
>>558880602yeah but you could get 2 of them on different bases
>>558879675Gonna get nerfed in the next patch notes
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm still gonna play dual strike of ambidexterity ngl with you famalam lil guppies
>>558876516this fat fuck is retarded. We had eras before T17s, the chaos orb value will be fine.
>>558880662I thought he used the esh graft as his 2nd one, the jolt oneeither way it's still fine, you can just orb of conflict elder implicit for +2 strikes>>558880724we had map crafts before, now they're gone too
>>558880526Yeah I'm thinking that cuz you'll have such absurd free flat with ice bite and some endurance charge tank, the build will feel like a million bucks. Might not be the DEFINITIVE version though.
>herald of purity sentinels have a base damage of 834 to 1251 at level 20 with base attack speed of 1.2 (1251 PDPS)>a one handed mace can give you 760 PDPS with 30% quality and T1 phys prefixes and T1 attack speed (and you can use a shield)>you can summon 4 sentinels vs 3 hammers with holy strikeSo holy strike has to have some pretty good added damage effectiveness or multiplier to be even slightly good? Or what am i missing here, why are they just worse than herald of purity sentinels on base stats alone
Fubgun killed chaos sinks ban him already
are you practicing campaign
>>558880724t16.5 maps are still in the game and you have to roll them just like t17s, the only thing that changes is that you can also use scours>Tier 17 maps were not able to be scoured. They were not able to be alterationed, and they had some pretty nasty mods on them that people generally had an attitude of, I'm going to roll over this almost all of the time.he doesnt even understand why t17s were a chaos sink in the first place kekthe vast majority of chaos is spent rolling for specific reward modifiers, not rolling over bad mods
>>558881449I should but I can't be fucked
>>558880801>you can just orb of conflict elder implicit for +2 strikesThat craft can be straight cancer to get. Took me 60 Grand Embers in Settlers but almost 500 in Merc league. Lord knows how many Exceptionals and Orbs of Conflict I went through with bad RNG
>>558881449For what? this is a 4 month league
>>558880832Ice bite is 219-333 on a skill that adds 1475-4809 damage assuming cryogenesis skips combat focus penalty.I don't see why 5% is relevant.
>>558881527yeah it was really fucking annoying, it also took me like 4 conflicts to get it, it's mega RNG
>>558881451its going to be a kino sabotage league, people would hate playing it past day 3
>>558881545leagues are 2 months now
>>558881451The following Map Modifiers can no longer roll: Players and their Minions deal no Damage for 3 out of every 10 seconds. Area contains Petrification Statues. Players have reduced Action Speed for each time they've used a Skill Recently. Players are Marked for Death after killing a Rare or Unique monster. Rare and Unique Monsters remove Life, Mana and Energy Shield from Players or their Minions on Hit. When a fifth Impale is inflicted on a Player, Impales are removed to Reflect their Physical Damage multiplied by their remaining Hits to that Player and their Allies within 1.8 metres. Area has patches of Awakeners' Desolation. Player Skills which Throw Traps throw fewer Traps. Players' Minions have less Movement/Attack/Cast Speed. Damage Players' Totems take from Hits is taken from their Summoner's Life instead.
REMINDER NOT TO SLEEP ON CROPSorgourd to riben fall is probably skill gems now which are going to skyrocket in valueALL IN ON ORGOURD
>+350 hours in the last 8 weeksi'm starting to get bored and I don't want to get too into crafting. What now?
>>558881786>Added 5 new Map Modifiers that can roll on Originator-influenced and Nightmare Maps.Dumb fucking retard
>>558880801yeah and now annuls are more rare. People are going to be chaosing for mods again
>>558881863riddle me thiswhy would they remove cancer mods just to add new ones
>>558880181Holy Strike is probably fine. Like they know how to push an archetype if they want to, and you get shit like accuracy in that part of the tree now so it won't be such a struggle. I just like Static Strike, and it lines up very conveniently with the tree I'm planning. Unnatural Instinct in the Scion area can hit duration and AoE while overlapping with a Light of Meaning, so you get all the stats that Static Strike needs from 2 jewels. It might not be top tier but I already know that it's going to be decently playable endgame with the buffs.
>>558881901retard
>>558881948>>558881948
>>558879191still playing sweep and you cannot stop me
>>558881786i dont know what your point is but this actually makes t17s harder to roll on a weak character. half of those mods are literally free and the rest arent a big deal. instead of some retard totem or minion mod that does nothing youre going to get shit like crit + crit multi, multiproj + aoe, damage of a random element, more monster life, max res, pe and life as es. those mods are way harder.
>>558881840get a job
>>558881561no such thing as enough flat, especially if you want to freeze bigger targets, and especially on multistrike skills, feels godly to reliably clear a pack with the first swing and then cancel it.
>>558882109lol no I'm not doing that.
>>558882124its just going to be worse value than a more dmg support
>>5588816743.28 is set to last 4 until poe2 5.0
>>558882034TBQH it didn't look too bad. Seemed like it could hit ~5 times. Of course, Smite of Divine Judgment in density with extra strikes hits 20 times but that doesn't affect single target.
>>558882202yeah seems like the hammers procs could be kinda nice for single target
Reminder at league start to immediately set up a trade for chaos-->GCP and convert all your chaos immediately. GCP is the new fundamental trading currency of PoE. It was decided on TFT yesterday.
>>558882310im ssf btw
>>558882310this, and don't sell divs early
IT'S UP1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juvl3aa_udghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juvl3aa_udghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juvl3aa_udg
>>558882310how do i do this in ssf
>>558882310I only trade in alchs so I'm fine
yeah, I'm thinking trans shockwave totems
>>558882419hot non consensual rough anal sex with my hot wife smokie_777
>>558882310greater chaos poo?LMAO
>>558882419ruetoo has debunked this build but i would still have sex with smokie
>>558882517stop shilling yourself and stop being a sex-obsessed queer incel. Anime porn has addled your brain into inoherent coomer babblespeak
>>558878874>it would make every other belt a downgrade
>>558882419uironically looks like a good starter build, I might consider it to get my stones early
>>558882597Why is rue "debunking" builds after shitting out that turd ele hit in Phrecia and he had to go on reddit and defend himself every day against people wanting to reroll from his turd
>>558882620>buzz word buzz word buzz word buzz word lol
>>558882597>ruetoo has debunked this build>intentionally uses the wrong setup (self-cast instead of mines)>on a character with 0 aoe (vs a literal elementalist)>GUYS THIS DOESN'T OVERLAPhe's a retard with 0 critical thinking and the only reason he can put decent builds together is copying others and then using his wholesaler chink math brain to optimize it.
>>558882626you heard hermageblood is speedmogged by acceleration shrine
>>558882419>nothing changed for this build in 3.28>golems got fucking nukedyeah ok smokie
holy strike bros, will you be pathing down to tribal fury?
what is /ourgirl/ tyty starting with?
>>558882626Acceleration shrine by itself with no defensive shrine is already the same power level as Mageblood kek.
>>558882876bows
>>558882419By the way the "reverse chill setup" is only active 25% of the time because of Skitterbot AI, and mines are not fun to map with even if you automate detonations.
This is terrible
>>558882868Why do splash when you get +3 strike targets easily (+1 passive tree, +2 eldritch implicit gloves)
>quin is playing terrarianot looking good for us poe1bros
>>558882868If you're scaling melee damage then yeah, you probably should. If you use it as a minion skill then fuck no.
>>558883017this nigga is not even gonna get 2/4 stones why should I care if he's playing poe or not
>>558883017it's joever
Reminder at league start to immediately set up a your character for SSF league and not care about tradie wagie mazed freaks.
>>558878510NOOOOOOOOOO MY 10c MAGEBLOOD
>>558882882>zero defense >better than mageblood that singlehandedly solves your defense lollmao even
>>558883017He's gonna get giga filtered by hardmode, if he ever gets that far. 0% chance of him beating Plantera
think im league starting with some garlic parm chicken wings
>>558883273nobody is playing ssf nigga
>>558883371more like unlimited black coffee, a twelve pack of monsters and a carton of cigs
>>558883371Eat some veggies.
>>558882954It was oppressively good.
>>558883350he's playing permadeath zenith
>>558883634i dont wanna
>>558882954Slams will be fine. Try casting your warcries manually.
>>558883750But I don't wanna press two buttons...
>>558883571Black coffee is based, monster is overly sweet slopCigs are time waste = xp loss
>>558883750the new consecrated ground support for warcries unironically is so fucking good I'm gonna make an enduring cry manual cast now
Why are their no one handed staffs?>SceptreThat's a mace
the fracture veiled mod shit is cool, you can get +1 min charge rings on fracture now
>>558883971why are there no 2 handed daggers?
>>558884046I could go for a two handed shield for my retaliate build.
>>558883571balkan leaguestart
A new patch really changes /poeg/. Too. many threads to keep up with.
>>558884236alive game
>>558882729What went wrong with the build? I watched his video and it seemed like 40 MILLION dps for free
>>558884379ZHP in one of the most intense events/leagues of all time. It was a 6 portal defense buildKeep in mind rue is the one constantly criticizing builds for being ZHP and he says he hates dying needlessly in maps
>>558884379Nothing is wrong with the build, people just suck
hextoad looks bussin
what are the chance the new league mobs completely dumpster zhp characters
I just saw Energy blade/ephemeral edge numbers, theres no way you're building holy strike with anything other than those, the damage is like 5-10x any rare or unique you can think of
>>558884379It's the only content he can make right now, and making content is his job. Don't overthink it.
>>558883750>Try casting your warcries manuallyNo... I don't think I will
>>558884570I have bad news
Reminder if you're not running hive fortresses in EVERY SINGLE MAP (because they're guaranteed now) you are retarded
>>5588847735x is post nerf, 10x is current patch
>>558884807Can't use swords lil gulp>>558884561Always will
>>558884776If they made it so I didn't have to defend that dumb bitch I'd do them.
>>558884561they look pretty generic
>>558884894Oh shit you're right im a dumbassHow does this come close to competing with the AG of self reflection builds then that get to benefit from eblade
>>558883014>+2 strike implicit>easilyThere’s a reason those gloves get sniped at 12 divs for the base alone
>>558885009They are in no way 12 divs cost to make lmao, atleast now when i made for for msozYou want to self craft them regardless because you want a high quality base
>>558885009it's not that bad, the only factor is orb of conflict price
>>558885009Strike sissies really don't pay that much just for their skills to be viable right?
>level 21 Shockwave can hold 5 chargesWhy didn't anyone ever tell me that maces were based?
>The shrine buffs provided by the Screams of the Desiccated Unique Leather Belt now also affect nearby enemies as well as the player.well it was fun while it lasted
>>558885215there's also exceptional shockwavealso the mirage essence has a +1 shockwave cooldownit's unironically going to be broken
>>558885194Thats like 15 minutes of farming blight
I've never played reap/exsang mines before but am considering it as league start, is it as legit as it looks? This guy's level 100 and poeninja has his damage listed at 62,000,000 despite wearing a bunch of t5 uniques that are 1 to 10c even at the end of the leaguehttps://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/Bandsy-1473/BandsyIs it really just that people fucking hate the gameplay of mines so much they refuse to touch it even if it's good? The last couple leagues I've been playing poison and minion shit so I haven't actually looked at phys spells but at first glance it looks good. I see people putting up with fucking totems every league and those are way more of a pain in my experience
>>558885245>it's realWhat the fuck its DOA
>>558885368>>558885245why lie you retarded faggots?
>>558885245fake
Divine Ire cast while channelling Bodyswap with the new Orb of Storms.I'm cooking.
>>558885094How many +2 gloves have you made? Eldritch implicit rolling can be pure cancer because of bad RNG
>>558885357Last league many were saying the single target was shit, but the clear was great.I didn't want to play a miner with bad single target, but maybe they are wrong
>>558885451>>558885484its in the discord, they arent updating the patch notes til monday
>>558885595nta but I made enough that they are definitely worth less than 12d for a base lolLITERALLY the only thing that matters is the price of conflict orbs
>>558885595I made like 3 of those when i played msoz in 3.26Its really not so bad, just dont start crafting it when you can barely afford the expected cost
>>558885257I wish it scaled the base cooldown with levels instead of giving CDR on the gem. I can't hit any CDR breakpoints cost efficiently the way it is.
>>558882954>150/190 = 0.7894 multi>329/393 = 0.8372 multi>-aura (Flesh and Stone) = ~=0.75 multiThat equals a 50% damage reduction for FB Uul-Netol's Earthshatter Bannermaxxer. You always had options for Bannermaxxer such as fire EQ, Rage Vortex of Berserking, Corrupting Cry, Ground Slam, etc. Mayhapsbeit people will choose one of these to switch to this league, or mayhapsbeit not since Earthshatter is still likely the best.This league for comfymaxxing you will play Bloodsoaked Banner support, potentially linked to 2 banners for faster ramp if the DPS is high enough by itself. What remains unknown is why Exceptional support gems have a max level of 3 instead of 5 or 20. This makes the effect of gem levels potentially ridiculous and may necessitate a swap from FB Uul-Netol's to a gem level bow or double corrupted Formless Flame or a switch to something like 1-hand/Svalinn or Aegis for scaling/defense.This has been your hourly Bannermaxxer update. Hit subscribe and ring that bell for more Bannermaxxer updates.
>>558885357if you delete all the corruption implicits, and the FF/FF jewels, and the balance of terror, and have a worse dagger, and drop 10 levels of points, it's still 19 million dps
>>558883316if it takes you longer than 1sec to kill a boss your build is shit buddy
>>558885620the guides I saw said you should switch from exsang to reap for ubers but since they have identical scaling in every way you don't need to change anything else about the tree. if the only real issue is switching out a skill for five minutes to kill ubers that seems like a good deal
>>558885725If this blood banner shit works, aren't you just an Ultimatum farmer that actually has to press a button every once in a while unlike CWS?
>>558885245>inverts ur resistances with Rakiata's>is immune to critStill the best belt in the entire game by far, still leaving Mageblood in the dust. Let's be real whatever they do is going to fucking ruin the belt and make it worthless. They want everyone using Mageblood and only Mageblood.
>>558885801i too wait until 2 months in to get mirror gear so my build is finally able to kill an uber
>>558885658why lie, you retarded faggot?
>>558885215Shockwave Static Strike has been around for a while clueless-kun
>>558885357>despite wearing a bunch of t5 uniques that are 1 to 10c even at the end of the leagueYeah, all of them with extremely favorable double corrupts, with a coveted flesh+flame combo, a probably expensive Dragonfang's, and all of that amounts to less than 5k phys max hit which means he dies to a sneeze.That said, reap mines are good tech. You should not look at these ztank assassins, they're probably just specialized sanctum or boss rushers and are not made for general progression. Just look at fearless dumb0's or aeroplane's reap/exang miner tricksters. People played those tricksters even on HC when exsang got the base damage buff.>>558885620Exsang has no single target before you put some gear into it, it has no more damage mechancis and is not even meant to be a hit skill. It's only used because it has amazing coverage, and full phys skills are good for scaling with convert mechanics.Reap always has good single target.
>>558886024That's exactly what I'm researching but the CDR doesn't fucking line up. Are you using level 1 Static Strike so all the beams get shockwaves, or do you use high level Static Strike and miss the shockwave on every 3rd beam?
>>558885995wrong discord
>>558886169why lie, you retarded faggot
Gonna be completely frank and honest with you Mirage looks like a snoozer of a league. I think I'll pass so I can be fresh for the epic PoE2 patch in a couple months.
>>558885357>>558886028also the reasons why people don't play miners that much after leaguestart (and excluding specialized shit)>mine builds tend to take a little bit of finagling since you have to fuck around with costs, reservation, overthrowing, and this is gay cancer if you just want to blast and not fuck around in pob>mine builds are fundamentally a poor choice for ultrahard content because mines can't leech or give you infinite recovery with life/es on hit
>>558886295Why not go run 3000 more temples while you're waiting?
>>558886295k
>>558885357I've played a lot of mines and reap mines and exsanguinate mines.Reap mines is a bit not amazing. The coverage of reap is just kinda shitty because it just targets the nearest enemy so you'll need multiple throws to take out packs, and you need a secondary setup to get blood charges too since mines can't give them to you, and also mine kills also remove blood charges. And on specific bosses that summon adds you'll lose those blood charges and do far less damage. Reap does decent damage on lone bosses where you can just vaal reap and detonate, but the juggling charges and crappy clear is annoying.Exsanguinate was great in Mercenaries league where you had free hyper effectiveness level 30 auras and +2 chain just from a gloves mod. You can't get those now. The build is worse than it was before. The coverage is good once you actually get chain, but you can't start out as exsanguinate; you won't have the damage if you want to do anything but alch and go.
>>558886380Mines are for bosses and maybe blight (you can ignore proxy shields).
>>558886101It’s been a while since I played it but iirc you don’t quality Static Strike and get enough CDR to proc Shockwave on every other Static Strike pulse
>>558885725I'm probably gonna swap off banner man to ehit cryogenesis like an asshole so you can have my character name.BannersAndRiceUse it wisely.
shame that they'll probably nerf the maven chisel drops now that you only need 1 for a map
>>558887076Isn't it exactly the same effect if you drop 1/4 the chisels as you used to?
>>558887201yes, but I bet they'll nerf the drop rate of them now that you just need to apply only 1 for the map
redditors are something else
>>558875771Is this game worth it? It looks like it's dead. But I have to say: the difficulty, the graphics, the story and voices are all great. To imagine this will be free one day... sounds REALLY good.>butThis is basically an offline game, that requires you to be connected to the internet 24/7. What is even the endgame loop?
>>558887387More like why are anglos like this
>>558887415every single poe is always only alive for the first 1 month of the new league
>>558887415Its only an offline game if you play without trading other players. 95% of the playerbase plays with the intention of trading and engaging in the economy
>>558887387Naming your children weird names is rape
Belton is skipping 3.28. He says he'll stick to PoE 2 for now
>>558880216https://pobb.in/WX2LsUJogiPs
this unique honestly sounds so good with Lavianga's flask
>>558887536>>558887561Thanks, yea I don't think this game is for me then. Back to Project Diablo 2 and WoW Classic Pservers.
>Bloodsoaked Banner does 5x the damage of Death's Oath starting>Bloodsoaked Banner has 0 downside>Bloodsoaked Banner covers 10 screens at once around you whereas Death's Oath is just a tiny AoEUhhhhhhhh is GGG even aware??? This is levels of comfy that haven't been seen in PoE in ages.
NOBODY IS FUCKING PLAYING BANNERS STOP WITH THE BANNER PROPAGANDA
>>558888093Rue is shilling banners
>>558888043anything is good 2 months and 10 mirrors in.at least you would hope so
Reminder that this is a BOSSING league because you will need to be T17 ("""nightmare""") per hourmaxxing for frags and then ubermaxxing to pump Exceptional gems into the economy and no general mapping strategies are worthwhile until the market is fully saturated in Exceptionals. GC miner and shit is going to be the meta at league start, not bowsissies or wandsissies.>>558888093Tyty said it's S-tier thoughbeit.
kinda want to play this skill honestly, emperors is bussin and you can double dip seething fury
>>558888043>comfy>running in a circle and waiting for mobs to die before your life flask runs out because your TTK for rares and bosses is 120-480 seconds
>>558888249BSB won't be more than the cost of the gem + 1 divine. A 10 divine support bow is going to be equivalent to 1c FB Uul-Netol's.
>>558888347Its alright. From the reveal it looked like you can get pretty good AoE, much better than SST, plus its ranged so you dont have to get raped in melee range like shield crush. Need to invest in less duration though
>>558888462yeah you'd need to path to the less duration nodes and the mastery, maybe you could even coin a lvl 1 less duration onto it
can i get a qrd on how reddit toos ele hit surfcaster performed in phrecia
>The Calculated Risk Notable now has Damage of Enemies Hitting you is Unlucky.wtf, this is insanely strong isn't it? I might bust out Saboteur CWS again
>>558888681No it isnt
>>558887976So, you equip this, you stack up some mana spent recently for Indigon and then you hit the flask and start blasting. Sure, that's decent. Dunno how broken it would be in practice though. It's not impossible to balance out Indigon mana spent to keep your mana total fairly level anyway, so long as you don't keep hitting arcane cloak.
>>558888681Not really, anon. I know it sounds great, but the actual thing is that most monster skills don't have that large of a range and if you're relying on "low rolls" to survive then you're already kinda screwed.It is okay. As a bonus to throw in it is fine and might save you a few portals.
>>558888534Every popular build will have a percentage of people struggling to bring it home because of low player skill. That doesn't make the underlying build bad.Ruepstein makes good softcore builds that have a path from low budget to higher budget, and I bet that most of the people who had trouble were people trying to push content they were not ready for.
>>558888347>max rolled ES emperors is 539 ES with 40 qual with double dip on seething furyyou can crit cap this so easily too, this shit looks fun
>>558888681its like 5% dr, maybe equal to an endurance charge.to be fair thats alot for right side builds.
>>558888820CWS builds have a lot of recovery and only die to continuous spike damage which this mitigates.
>>558882626vs Always Criti mean always crit alone beats all your flasks, think of it this way every crit rate node and crit mod on your gear can be changed to something else with that shrine alonewith mageblood it lets you use your flasks all the time no flask beats always crit
>>558889061>can't use progenesisit will never beat mageblood
>>558888681It's not insane, it's just cherry on top defences where you sprinkle a little more favorable math on top of a finished defensive package.>>558888820>but the actual thing is that most monster skills don't have that large of a rangeTo my knowledge this is completely untrue, especially monster spells. But you have a point on it being unable to carry defences on its own.
>>558888947I did the calculations in a previous post if you want to check, compared it with SST in the reply aswell>>558777472
>>558889120every crit node and crit affix/suffix can be changed to a defensive one a progenesis cant beat that
>>558889172>defensive package>sabo?????????????????????
>>558889224What defensive nodes brothers? All the good ones are prefixesThe only ones that can really abuse this are stat stackers as suffix pressure is mostly on their attributes
>>558889061Mageblood is way more flexible, can be changed on the fly, and you still get flask suffixes. Why do people act like suffixes on flasks don't exist? Also, with mageblood you buy it and with a few flask crafts it is good on literally every build except ones that use tides of time or headhunter. It can be used on like 99% of characters.>>558889224Literally no, lol. Progenesis might be the single best defensive item in the game, especially with flask effect. Swapping out some crit nodes for generic life, evasion, armor, w/e is not even remotely comparable.
>>558889190oh nice, yeah it could be still fun though. I think you can easily get a lvl1 less duration coin on it too which is 10% more damage and 40% less duration, I'll probably think about making it a thing as my 2nd build cause I like how this skill looks and the aoe looks decent
>>558888681Let's take a look at random boss damage ranges.Maven orbs deal 1414-2121Sirus corridor does 1634-2464Shaper's melee deals 3448-5172The maximum damages are 1.5x the minimum damages.So before you were taking 1.25x the minimum average damage and now you would be taking 1.125x the minimum. Which is a 10% reduction in damage taken, mean average.
>>558889061If always crit was this valuable, you would be using Trypanon or Plume of Pursuit a lot more. They have much smaller downsides than this new belt, yet are absurdly niche items.
>>558889338Just to be clear I think the new belt is really good. I just think anyone writing off MB is genuinely retarded.
>>558889408Shrine belt competes more with HH than Mageblood. HH is just raw annoying power, MB is flexible utility and defenses.Shrine belt lends itself more to power, but it can also be defensive a bit. Like the middle option of a slider between HH and MB. The synergie with the +1 ring though is pretty obvious
>BROS JUST SWAP OUT YOUR CRIT ON THE TREE FOR DEFENSE!!!!Most of the crit nodes are about getting multi lmao. Getting near crit cap isn't what takes a bunch of investment on the tree, getting to like 600%+ crit multi is. All of your jewels will still be multi. You're still taking at least one crit wheel to get the multi mastery. What exactly are you dropping? How many points are PURELY crit chance?
>>558889535The ability to use tinctures (if that works) + the extra ring slot is definitely the big selling point to me. You do give up an ascendancy notable for a 3rd ring, but I think that is doable on a number of classes.I myself am league starting Warden, and if I somehow can get that belt I'll happily drop Unbound Avatar for a 3rd ring with my 2 tinctures.
>>558889568I honestly think more people will be trying to make use of the charge resonance shrine than the diamond shrine. Diamond shrine is really good on low investment but on high investment im 99% sure its going to be all about the charges
>>558889651It does, people already use +1 ring with mana/life/tinctures so the shrine belt will function that way. it's not like the flask belt from heist that just straight up disables the flask slot
reminder JUGG doesnt care about flask suffixes or progenesis at all thus benefits the most from using shrine belt
>>558889651>>558889813You can also use Doedre's flask for charge generation and wormflask if that matters.
>>558888414>before your life flask runs outis there anyone who doesn't play with ryslatha on league start? hell since they added shit like expedition mobs healing it's good even late for the 50% less regeneration upgrade
>>558889317Sabo has solid defenses with Born in the shadows and good tree positioning. It's a hipster class but it's tankier than many popular ascendancies.
>>558889568Assuming we get a variety of shrines on these I think diamond is one of the most overhyped.Resonating acceleration and echoing are all far far better.Even just a bog standard resistance shrine is 10 max allres which is usually complicated to get.Resistance +1 of anything, like massive, is extremely good.
>>558889703I think it is good for charges, yeah. But I also think that if you have like 10+ endurance charges you might go for the triple damage belt + ralakesh which is pretty competitive with that.
>>558889887i always use abberath on league startless ignite duration is really good if youre getting shock + freeze + chill immunity from tempest shield, brine king and boot craft but dont have ignite immunityburning ground immunity is nice when doing exarch on league start
>>558888093banners have been good in both poe1 and poe2 for a while now, they're GGG's longest running attempt at encouraging players to press multiple buttons and the one they've absolutely refused to allow automation for unlike mark-on-hit, blasphemy, autoexertion, automation support, etc. if you're willing to throw down a banner before a map boss becomes targetable there's almost no reason not to, it's just poe players are extremely reluctant to add a single keypress besides their main skill so they normally don't bother even if it's something retarded like +50% damage or +100% movespeed and capped spell suppression
The power of diamond shrine isn't getting free crit cap, it's getting things that are difficult to crit to always do so. Herald of Thunder is the classic example
>>558889317saboteur is almost exclusively defensive nodes since it got fucking slopped
>>558890010Thing is you dont get to benefit from power or frenzy charges then without solving generation. The belt solves everything regarding charges. The more i look at it the more masterful form with the belt and badge of the brotherhood looks disgusting500% crit chance40% more damage40% increased cast/attack speed40% PDR and EDRAnd whatever uniques make sense after that. Replica restless ward is a pretty good chest and gets you 60% move speed and tons of life regen. You can build around that. I genuinly dont think free crit cap comes close to what i listed above
>>558889887I exaggerated for comedic effect to make a broader point about the difficulties of scaling physdot.Bear in mind a bannerman is not an elementalist and won't get oodles of inc.+multi scaling for free. You have nothing to take on the tree other than aura effect and banner nodes, which I think might end up insufficient.I'm very open to being wrong on this but I think it's gonna end up like corrupting cry builds, just a meme gimmick.>>558890113>if you're willing to throw down a banner before a map boss becomes targetable there's almost no reason not toA banner you didn't spec relatively heavily into will not be usable before the boss fight starts.
>>558890113im fine with pressing buttons but i dont like staring at my hud to make sure im not accidentally removing a banner instead of placing itwarden has the same thing with getting fucked in the ass when you press a tincture thats already active and i hate it
If you aren't playing Trans Shock Nova you are literally retarded.
>>558889348what class would u guys run with this? probably need different skill until enough moneyz though
>>558890412This but with astral projection and mines so it autotargets monsters far away instead of starting on you
>>558890448glad seems shit so idk. maybe champion with fort stackingmaybe jugg? inquisitor? are my only options
>>558890412This skill will have total caca as does every good clear skill. Unless you go into stacking int or life or whatever
>>558890476I hope reliquarian gets to keep the astral projector node
>>558890261>FrenzyNot a problem to generate via swords or mark mastery for single target. Bloodrage covers it while mapping. >Power chargesThey generally require an annoying setup or memeing with "Bro I can totally keep them up with ass mark">EnduranceAnnoying if you have to use enduring cry on bosses, kind of mandatory that you take longer lasting charges for that.I agree that in a general case charges can be annoying to get on single target and this belt does help with that. However, I feel like most builds that rely upon charges have solved it in some way that isn't too painful. The belt is stronger than maven + ralakesh, but I also think that maven + ralakesh is really, really strong too and lots of people will just do that if charge belts are like 2-3 mirrors.
>>558890412we're in the post-poe2 design era anon, watch that shit be rate-limited no matter how many overlaps, or not actually shotgun to begin with, or have absolutely abysmal damage effectiveness because GGG want it to be a shock enemies button to support your actual damage skills for MUH MEANINGFUL COMBATuntil we have the full gem information treat everything in previews with extreme skepticism
is the change to Aul's bloodline ascendancy where you get buffs from minimum charges mean that regardless of the amount of charges as long as its 1 or above charges the ascendancy is triggered and always on? >The King's Might, The King's Heritage, and The King's Contempt Bloodline Passive Skills now grant their respective Aura effect while you have minimum Frenzy, Endurance, or Power Charges respectively (previously no Frenzy, Endurance, or Power Charges).
>>558890154Yes that's good but does it beat acceleration giving 80 proj speed and 50 action speed to windburst or spark.No.
>>558890625it means you need to have as many charges as your minimum
>>558890625no, it means that if you have 1 minimum charge the node turns on when you have 1 charge instead of just being broken
>>558890625"minimum" is 0 by default
>>558890584Your logic:>10% chance to get frenzy charge on marked enemy is enough to keep up frenzy charges>8% chance to get power charge on marked enemy is not enough to keep up power chargesHmm.
>>558890625it's a buff to builds that set minimum charges higher than 0
>>558890448>>558890540Most straight forward is assassin, gets you tons of crit damage. You can also go inquisitor. If you want more defensive i think chieftain is alright, You can check out poe ninja what ascendancies ppl go with SST and shield crush
>>558890742Assassin's mark is 5%, is it not? And probably reduced a little via mark on hit?
>>558890625It means that if you're at your minimum charge amount, regardless of whether that amount is 0, 1, 5 or 7, the condition will count as being met.To get both effects at once, you will have to have an identical number of minimum and maximum charges, easily accomplished with Hiero or jewellry mods.This was very difficult previously without using as many as 3 -maximum charge items.
>>558890719>>558890728>>558890737>>558890787so other than the skill tree what other ways is there to set minimum higher?
>>558890813I kinda want to go champ but idk, will probably cook something up as my 2nd char with the divine blast cause it looks fun
>click around on pob for a bitI'm just gonna take a build this league or last minute slayer pick
>>558890834Enhance support and curse effect also scale it. You certainly don't need to keep at at 5%.
>>558890850Rings/ammies can have minimum charges, some uniques do, and hiero gets it easily.
>>558890850crafted suffix gives +1 minimumgrand spectrum gives +1 minimum per grand spectrum
>>558890850open the wiki page for a charge and ctrl+f minimum
>>558890950>>558890980ty>>558891013this one? https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
So we can all agree PoE is never getting 4.0, right?
>>558890584The thing is the charges enable a ton of other stuff aswell, its not just their inherent effects. For example any skill requiring charges is completely free basically, like holy hammers or flicker strike. Then theres all the uniques, like i mentioned for example replica restless ward or precursor emblems. Just giving ideas, my points is just this has way more potential at endgame for people to cook builds with than just crit cap
>>558891114i dunno, kinda looks like they're gearing up for some big changes
>>558891105yes
>>558890845thanks for the qrd >>558891214ty
>>558891114I actually think there might be a hint at 4.0 at Exilecon. I think they might announce PoE2 going into 1.0 and PoE getting a 4.0 later.PoE2 1.0 = Finished campaign and maybe 2 more classes being added in simultaneously (Templar + Duelist maybe?)PoE 4.0 = Zana pinnacle boss fight
>>558891185No, it kinda looks like they do the minimum development of their games to save in costs.
>>558891165Oh yeah resonating shrines gives you 5% damage per charge, and charge mastery gives you 3%, so 8% in total. With 30 charges you get 240% increased damage. For some builds thats nothing but for others this is a lot
>>558891114poe2 was internally called 4.0 for a while so it might be difficult for them to use that version for poe1
>>558888681It is a good buff, but you are still restricted to playing Rolling Magma or Lightning Trap. There are no other good skills for Sabo because of the way the nodes are designed.
They mentioned wanting to incentive killing the less popular bosses with the greater supports too.I wonder what the atziri farming anon is gonna own the market with
Is Ruetoo baiting with this dual strike of ambidexterity nonsense?
>>558892208ambidex has been strong forever. it's just really fucking boring
>>558892208It is an absurd skill that has a ton of set ups to make it good, but the best version is a strength stacker and if that build is popular the price of the items is gonna be HILARIOUS.
>>558892172probably echo or cascade or both, he'll be rich.
>>558892208it has zero clear from what i seen with alkaizer's version of it and he had 100 million version of it
>>558892352strength stacker is already the meta build of 3.28 with int stack in the tub
>>558892172Whichever boss has the meta exceptional gems is gonna be nuts. Atziri is still gonna be nuts for Adorned because bloodsoaked banner is a nu S++ tier build that uses it at endgame.
>>558892208mamba was the best strike skill in the game and it got taken out back and shot.......but dual strike was literally untouched and was 80% as good as mamba.it's like how in poo2 they nerfed spark into the ground but left Arc untouched which is 90% the same fucking skill so it was yet another lightning league where you just played bloodmage cast on crit arc instead of spark
>>55889245930k ES is still better than 15k life.
Lioneye's Glare + Headhunter is what Fubgun is league starting btw.
>>558892618Mamba is a poison skill with clunk, while Dual Strike is an actual strike skill in all aspects including clear. I don't think they're that comparable.
>>558892424rue uses melee splash support plus the 0.5 meter slayer node which is enough to cover most of the screen, and you can take more aoe nodes to scale it higher if that's not enough. he did a t17 using Tempestuos Steel to show how little gear it needs.it's still a strike skill, so if you hate stopping in place to attack constantly don't play it, but it looked solid.
>>558893008mamba is supposed to be a poison skill but it was used as a strike skill. its effectiveness was absurd
>>558892826uhh i dont think you'll be going over 15k es now bro
>>558893107shame they nerfed low tolerance too
>>558893008>is a poison skill with clunkthe reason mamba got nerfed into the ground is because people were ignoring poison entirely and just using it for the dual-hit with no attack speed penalty due to its raw numbershttps://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/cubixz-4648/cubixBlackCat
our girl smokie is getting grilled...
>>558892826They're both more than necessary.
https://youtu.be/f1QFy0gHwFc the only video about the league reveal that matters
>>558893249Its actually unreal he's grilling Smokie for ZHP when he made that ele hit turd in Phrecia
>>558893054isnt ever poe1 skill stop and do it?
reminder that you should be manually casting atleast 1 warcry now
They nerfed int. They nerfed accuracy. They nerfed shaper's touch, they nerfed the mastery. All they had to do was to nerf howa. What the fuck are these tards doing?
>>558893374Smokie has EHP dysphoria now...
>>558893463The good ones deal damage while you move.
>>558890448Inquis for a weird ass CoC setup. Lightning Warp + buffed Claw. I don't care if it's shit, I'm addicted to flicker.
>>558893493yeah retard because howa was the only int stacking build in the game
Shant be clicking a warcryShant be clicking a banner
>>558893463>isnt ever poe1 skill stop and do it?there's stuff like cyclone that works while moving, or skills that move you as part of the attack. half the reason minions are popular is because they hit shit while you run around and loot
>>558893467You were always meant to manually cast at least rallying and/or enduring (before auto charges and even after if you need reliable charges on bossing)
>>558893590people who use banners probably have pride flags in their room
>>558893579Howa is a accuracy/int stacking item. Which was the broken item and made the build broken. Why is everything nerfed when this item is the problem? It's not like aristocrat exist in normal leagues.
UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9YhVOX8xiUUPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9YhVOX8xiUUPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9YhVOX8xiU
>>558893946int stacking has been way too strong for way too long. str stacker was like 1/4 of the power for 2 leagues in a row and they killed off Battlemage's Cry to make the spec worthless.
>>558893972So it begins... The great bait of our time.
>>558893946>Why is everything nerfed when this item is the problem?because it wasn't just howa builds that were the problem. getting 30k ES with a single energy shield wheel clicked was retarded.
>>558894028>meanwhile dex stackers
>>558893946because INT stacking is absolutely fucking broken you retard and HOWA wasn't the only build that was int stacking how fucking retarded are you? HOWA got nerfed anyway
>>558893493>>558893946its still really fucking good with high end tradie gearhttps://pobb.in/Lp1bwvKIWuiV
>>558890448If we're lucky scion gets some -duration from Warped Timepiece. Though I don't the other nodes have anything worth taking.
>>558894339Reliquarian looks actually dogshit
>fubgun unironically thinks acceleration shrines will be eligeble on the shrine beltHow retarded are people?
>>558894632>How retarded are people?You watch fubgun for starters
im bannermaxxed and valourpilled
>>558893946I think INT stackers will still be fine, if we're being honest. STR stackers might be better for a few leagues, but something has to be meta. Like you can still just put Jiquani and some zero effort synthesis rares on a build, equip any spell in the game, and deal 10x more damage than a build that isn't stacking.
gonna share a little secret with my fellow cb banner chudsyou can take the rage when warcry mastery and you will have 100% uptime on the oshabi rage node for 100% increased phys, 10% increased action speed and stun immune,
>>558894632how retarded are you for not knowing GGG already confirmed the belt rolls random shrines, not just diamond+resist, and that it's always 1 offensive+1 defensive, and Acceleration counts as Offensive.>but that's OP!it's a t0 unique, GGG loves overpowered chase uniques. temporalis holds the entirety of poo2 hostage since day 1
How we feeling on these numbers?
>>558894925holy shit, a use case for that node that doesn't actually make you lose DPS
Last league was so fucking boring. Not sure if I missed something but why would this league be any different?
>>558895085nigga watch the reveal
>>558894939>but that's OP!it's a t0 unique, GGG loves overpowered chase uniques, hence why it will be able to roll divine shrine to get immunity from damage
>>558894984what am i looking at covenant + foulborn rathpith?
>>558894841Nerfing es or int wasn't in the conversation before the foulborn howa. I think they nerfed it too much because most players don't reach crazy numbers playing these builds. I think most bias about it was built around a bunch of streamers who craft reflected helicals and simplex and reach high es numbers.
>>558895319its been long overdue
>>558895217GGG also confirmed it can't roll divine shrine. if it just cycled through them all instead of one being permanent they unironically probably would have left it in, they didn't prevent companions in poe2 from using empowered invulnerability aura
>>558895319>Nerfing es or int wasn't in the conversationBlue life > red life. It has been for years. You just weren't paying attention.
>>558895313Rathpith yes.Apostate Creeping Frost.
>>558894984>15k raw life total>26k phys max hitput on enduring composure and you'll literally double your max hit bro I really doubt you're using endurance charges with only like 40% mitigation
>>558895575>Creeping Frost.Is this some high IQ reliquarian refractor thing? Somehow can't believe this is the best DPS skill to go for.
>>558895575oh yeah thats what the item is called. i wonder if apostate builds will be more popular after bog shaman was one of the most played ascendancies in phrecia 2
>>558894984Can you pump fire res and do RF? You already have 3k regen.
>>558895571Really? It wasn't the foulborn howa that pushed this nerf? Were you paying attention?
>>558895824yeah? they nerfed eblade too
>>558895824It was a well-deserved nerf. Get over it, nerd. Find a new streamer build to copy.
blue life chuddies SEETHING
>>558895965I didn't even like the howa build. What are you retards talking about? The nerf came because a bunch of streamers have been playing it, not because the whole server is reaching billions of damage and 40k es.
>>558896196thats not even the right claw. you seem pretty retarded
>follow through cluster nerfed to hard cap at 100% increased damage with 4 bouncesrip cobra lash, I was actually considering ward stacker assassin as a league start
>>558895319People have been complaining about ES being objectively better than life for years at this point. If HoWA caused the nerf then good. It honestly needs more nerfs than this, they need to lower the base ES on items too.
>>558895718Nah I took someone's build on Ninja and went to town on it.He was doing it with Vaal Cold Snap on a Gladiator, I made it CF on an occultist with a 3-curse Bane, though it could be done as Elementalist.>>558895816RF is disabled here. Main skill DPS is 20M with it on.
>>558896470People aren't streamers with 100 viewers' tongues up their asses kid. Nobody reaches those retarded numbers while playing the game solo or very very few people do. To me that alone doesn't justify heavy nerfs.
>>558896730good thing your opinion is irrelevant cause thats fucking stupid
>>558896730you're a retard and I'm glad ES got nerfed because you'll not be able to get even 4 stones now because you're a retarded sheep
>>558896893You think people need 20k es to get 4 stones or something? What is this brainrotten way of thinking?
>>558896482Oh I'm retarded I didn't realize it was dot damage, thought you were shotgunning.
>>558896730Bro, with the way the tree and shipments shat out items you were able to get enough ES to cover everything but ubers on a cheap budget.ES didn't get nerfed enough. It will still be stronger than life, you don't have to worry.
getting voidstones seems less important now with being able to just put waystones in any map
>>558897208retard
>>558893946>>558894074>>558894114>>558895319>>558895824It wasn't even HOWA retard. It was Hand of Thought and Motion. HOWA was the POE2 0.1 busted stacker item.
>>558897125I wonder if the top ES base types were the real problem. Shavs is crying in irrelevance now that Twilight Regalia exists.
the annoint belt is bussin I can annoint Sione's and still have a 2nd annoint
NEEEEEEEEEEEWFUBBIEEEEhttps://youtu.be/cYiNIW5k57ohttps://youtu.be/cYiNIW5k57o
>>558898056what is this guys' accent? sounds close to actual gullah, is he black?
>>558898263he's a gay black lisping faggot
how's 3.28 looking? is it a skip league?
>>558898340It's a 6 man party league. Get on discord, bruv. You won't make any money as a solo player.
>>558898340unironically best league since affliction
All the streamers are doing bows, mines or totemsPoE is back
>>558898340kino is back on the menu
Almost less than 6 days to go
Actually made a Bloodsoaked Banner tree from scratch. Completely (literally completely) nude other than Uul-Netol's Axe it's around 180k DPS (>ramped) at level 75 with everything set to autoexert and no other supports linked to BSB/banner. No buttons pressed except Defiance/Dread Banner for your infinite movement speed and defense. Covers a screen away in every direction with instant (white map) death.Looking juicy for maps per hour farming. No effort at all to scale the DoT to 2 million DPS. Will definitely switch to an AFK comfymaxx BSB build after clearing everything with normal slam bannermaxx.
>>558898340ive never been more hyped about a league until now
I dont know bros, crimson desert is coming out aswell
im sitting at my computer and waiting for the league to start
>>558898946Marathon beta is out right now
>Cobra Lash murdered in undocumented cluster jewel nerfsThat just cost you a supporter pack, Mark
>>558898985same
You may be excited for nu elder blobs but this league actually has no new thingies to do. You kill mobs in circle and go through portal and do the same thing again.Anyone who farmed maps per hour is shit outta luck this league. You can't even engage with the league mechanic at all because it wastes your time.Streamers are going to give up on the league bigly very early and retention will be 0.>>558899147My standard Mantra of Flames build took a stray that killed it completely. """Stacks""" of fortify used to count as buffs so you'd max out Mantra of Flames buffs just by hitting. Now it's gone. Such is PoE.
im playing Mewgenics
>>558899424Isn't that a really old nerf? Mantra hasn't worked like that in ages.
1-3 Holy Strike4-6-Holy Shield7-9-Absolution0 Blood banner fuck you championSeriously those numbers on blood banner are fucking bunkers, what the fuck
Holy strike looks fun ngl hope somebody with a brain makes a handhold for it.
The build makes itself. Its a poo2 build with custom supports for it and an ascendancy for it
>>558899424>Anyone who farmed maps per hour is shit outta luck this leaguecompleting a blob gives you a reward room so theres an inherent reward to mapping quickly
>>558898908>No effort at all to scale the DoT to 2 million DPSThe effort is in scaling it past that. I can make a 2m decay build.
>>5588999950% chance astrolabes are priced around the shitty reward room
>>558900052You have 2600 base DPS shouldnt be hard to scale it past 2m
>>558900237the ones for bad mechanics will be
>>558899424>You kill mobs in circle and go through portal and do the same thing againSounds awesome
>>558900237depends how good the vaults are gonna be
>>558900398>good >poe lootAlmost got me
>>558900364>You kill mobs in circle and go through portal and do the same thing again but this time you get a random modifier that gives 100% more currency or converts certain items to currency etccount me in
>>558900505retard
>>558878510the belt didn't even look that goodyeah you get 2 nice shrinesbut you lose all of your flasks that provide more than those 2 shrines
>>558899985If it was a Poo2 build they would limit Hallowed Flames to only get activated specifically by the minions from Holy Strike, and fuck you if you want to use any other skill in combination with it.
>>558900285I'll believe it when I see it. It'll be zdps before adorned, like all physdot builds other than elementalist. You can't even really add support gem levels to it.
>>558894339>charity>shows a chest
How do you get astralobes?
hows the league mechanic? I cant be arsed with another poo2 temple
UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBcUTw_nQqM
>>558900709seems like you need the voidstone from killing memory bosses
>>558899884I want it to be good but i need numbers, tags etc. Still hallow feels like a trap, 25% extra phys as fire is nothing. Doesn't work right with holy strike unless and 3 hits are ''simultaneous'' and each get the bonus. Maybe if when it get triggered it had a very short duration (like .1-.2seconds) so all 3 weapons get it,... The guardian ascendency + 1max hallow charge probably is irrelevant in msot case, the lightning extra can be good i suppose but that's only you, not your minions...
>>558900709ground loot
johnny boy up in it (oh!)watch him nerf it, watch him go
>>558900709i dont think they said
Any DDfags left? How much corpse life do you use in 2026?
ruetoo is going to league start cb bannersits over.
>>558899884>level 1 dom blowit will not be good. nigggers have many skills and items like this. they are all bad.
>>558900761I also am curious how they function with multi strike and extra strike targets.
>>558900729>You go in the map and clear it>A section of the map has a portal in it>You go in the portal and get to clear that section of the map again>If any league mechanics happened to be in that section, you get to run them twice>Also you can select a thing before you do this that krangles yourself or the section or the mobs or whatever>Atlas is more like Conquerors of the Atlas era now, but with POE2 waystone style map selection
>>558900598>and fuck you if you want to use any other skill in combination with it.It is. The buff is arguably even shit on holy strike as it ends up just being rougly 10% more DPS from the hallowed flame (theres 4 of you, you apply 2 hallowed flames, the hammers remove them for 50% damage as extra, so 12,5% more damage overall when you divide by 4)The buff is also not fantastic, ends up being 20% more damage (80/4) since the buff doesnt apply to the minionsBut its the only skill that realistically makes use of it smoothly since you want to attack yourself
>>558894339the first wheel is pretty shit but all the others have items that could be worth building around
>>558898340It literally looks like the best league in years, so there has to be a catch somewhere.
>>558900731based this is a halcyonish general now
Am I reading Holy Sweep wrong or does it have a 726% damage effectiveness?
>>558901090>leaguestart gem that drops off vaal temple boss or some shitriiiiight
>>558901649The attack speed bro...
>>558901649The only way that skills ends up even somewhat viable is if you can cheese huge AoE on it
Where do you get ilvl86 bases now?
>>558901806Cowards Trial :^)
IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7uBou9_OCAhe's right, fuck these streamers mobilizing their retards to get the game to cater to them instead of normal players
>>558901806Recombinator
>>558901568has she done any hardcore pornography
>>558901927This guy is so bitchmade. He’s had his comments disabled for years
>>558901927>buffing non-league mechanic monsters by 100% currency was the wrong direction thats not even what ggg did the buff also applies to league monsters
>>558901706>>558901769Champion, stack fortify and steal slayer's aoe node whose jewels will surely be incredibly cheap yessirI am fully ready to have a terrible time
>tfw im going to play the same build for the 10th league in a row
>>558902295man if the shrine belt makes it to live ff/ff is gonna skyrocket more than ever with everyone taking the extra ring
>>558901649Your battlemages cry hydrosphere tech, sir?
>>558901927Didn't know that the guy that rallied people behind all this loot stuff was a groupfag, I see now.
>>558903018He’s not wrong at all in that vid. Anyone who played in Kalandra can confirm loot never felt the same way since
>>558901930>The item level is capped by max(A, B), where A and B are the input item's item levels. This means you cannot get an item level higher than either of the input items from recombination.No?
>>558903018no shit retard, he also has an ugly lazy eye>>558903082fuck off snap fix your fucking eyes
>>558903149Yes?Getting ilvl 100 items is trivial. Might not be desirable bases, hence why you recombinate it with your desired base
>>558900761>The guardian ascendency + 1max hallow charge probably is irrelevant in msot caseyep, no idea what is the point of +1 max if you want to constantly consume these charges
>>558902295GenCry, my friend. Let the slow speed be someone else's problem.
>>558903018>>558901927It is wild that people don't understand the second order effects of buffing ground loot. Tile loot was literally DEI for normies, it was a way to flatten the loot discrepancy and mitigate inflation (which it absolutely worked)Now all the loot is "doubled" but what that means is that the dadgamer who makes 2 divines an hour can make 4 while Fubgun and Empyrian now make 10 mirrors an hour instead of 5, inflating the price of chase much faster.
>>558903369I dont think it means you can apply up to 2 stacks i think it means in one hit you apply 2 stacks
alkaizer hasn't streamed since the reveal. what is he plotting?
>>558903369lets you scale minion damage with your own attack speed, there are nodes and items that turn minion attack speed into your attack speed
>>558903149its not hard to get a random shit base with ilvl 86gambling, kingsmarch, tree, rog, gwennen, div cards, some weird shit like bosses and valdos
>>558903658Yeah the way to do that skill holy strike is get 2 12-passive clusters with 10% minion damage and then get 35% inc effect and 3% attack speed to minions. Thats 24 passives each granting you 13% damage (to yourself and minions) and 4% attack speed (to you, and your minions). Then get the tax nodes, defensive nodes, and whatever else makes sense
>>558901927>he's right, fuck these streamers mobilizing their retards to get the game to cater to them instead of normal playersits pretty obvious, the fact that ggg is listening to a retarded chink named fubgun who has 11 fucking mirrors at the end of the previous league and is saying the game has no ground loot and listens to this fucking retard then they only have themselves to blame to the amount of inflation this league is about to entail
>>558901769I've been theory crafting around it.Not having access to any slam stuff or strike stuff hurts it quite a bit.Even if you do stack AoE, that's mostly a clear thing.For single target, hoping to get overlaps, you need wormblaster tech or that one phantasm mark. But as a nuke, it doesn't have the raw damage to make it fat enough. It also does damage in multiple hits, so some kind of ignite approach isn't doable either.If you want to push for attack speed, you're also going to be hitting faster than you can generate adequate extra targets so the extra damage gets spread thin.Being lightning also cucks it out of phys scaling and now you need to deal with resists too.
>>558904025they're only listening to him because that video made numbers
affliction broke some people and they still haven't recovered from it
>>558903924Ok gwennen and rog can apparently roll them. Can gambling and shipping though? Mappers were capped at 83 as per patch notes.t1 affix bodies are gonna be fucking expensive, aren't they
>>558904049Unless im mistaken i dont think youre cucked out of phys scaling like in poe 2But yeah that skill looks rough to me on first glance. As i said it has potential if you can cheese huge aoe on it since its a 360 melee attack, but thats about it
>>558904102GGG is absolutely beholden to Reddit upvotes, and Reddit is frequently manipulated by streamers to get their way. Social media was a fucking mistake.
>people call shrine belt good>it's not even that good because you can't use flasks or you lose your shrine
what do Asmon and Shroud think?
>>558904554who? what?
>>558904554
>get more loot>retardfags complain about more lootyou guys are not bright huh, why would you cry about getting loot in a loot grinding game?
>>558904503your TINKtures, sissy?
>>558904865I dont want more loot, I want better loot.
>>558904025Fubgun is black
>>558904460its the other way around, negroggg tells the streamers "we want to do this shit make it look good" and they do exactly thatlook at the wave of positivity, nobody is talking about same meta but nerfed, nobody is talking about items, nobody is talking about how the new holy shit is already underwhelmingits all THEY BUFFED GROUND LOOT THAT THING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LAST WEEKwhen streamers and poe2 fags say "its good" get ready because you're about to see the balancing of expedition + the loot of kalandra + the bullshit on poo2they really managed to sell the same shit again.
>>558903557didn't they say something about window and tile loot scaling back a bit to make up for the new drops? so it's possible that some of the casual people would get even less loot
I knew Baron unique existed because the item art stands out but i had no idea it gave your minions strengthI think that has potential with holy strikes as an endgame version, since you can get strength stacking mods on maces (flat damage and aoe per strength)Anyone ever done such a strength stacking minion build? Is it viable?
>>558904970guess what, if they make less loot drop then the loot we have becomes more valuable
>>558904986kek
>>558905075Ah man how could this happen!
Tubgun
>>558905057minion str stacking hasnt been good since blight, and thats intentional. they dont want minions to be good. they want you to have spells with the minion tag and your power to be poison cap topsask yeself: why arent minions allowed to have power
>>558905242Because they're fun
>>558905075> if we go from "having no items" to "you get 2 magic items per map" everything is fixed!legitimately enshittifying the game, ruthless was a mistake, these faggots dont like arpgs, they want economy simulators
miniontards will cower in their cuck corner while their slaves slowly whack a single monster to death and be like>yo this gameplay fire
>>558905242What made minion str stacking good? Which other uniques or mechanics benefit from minions having strength? Other than obviously phys damage and life
>>558905439aww poor baby snap wont get as much group loot WAAAAAAAAAHits better for literally anyone not in a group or playing 20 hours a day
>>558904023kek, i came to the same conclusion
>>558905546meleetroons will play entire mmo rotations to kill a white mob and say "yeeeees this is great I'm the hardcordestest of tards!"we can all play this game and the best part is you will lose because you're playing an mmo rotation like ggg wants you to, which is legitimately the most cucked behaviour one can have
Bow builds will win, however
>>558905739trvth phosphorvs bomb
>>558905616sounds like marketfaggotry to meI want to have good drops, by that meaning items, and I want crafting to be deterministic so its not literally pull the lever and praythat makes rmtfags and econotroons mad, the former because they cant sell as many divines and the latter because they believe they are special for selling something they crafted with 19 divs and 100c for 20 divsunironically should remove those faggots from the game and balance it around ssf or make farming items deterministic
>meleetroons>summons 6 diff types of minions before he can do damage>what I'm saying is that meleetroons>accidentally loses 15d spectre>what I wanna say is that meleetroons>has to cast desecrate>those fucking meletroons>has to cast an offering>those fucking keybord-turning meleetroons>has to cast 3 curses to do damage>namsayin>has to cast convocation every few seconds>those button mashing meleetroons>has to leave the map because the minions got stuck in a doorway>those meleetroons have to do MMO rotations>gets killed by a chaining projectile
Gook patch notes have something missing from the English ones:>The Follow-Through Cluster Jewel Notable Passive Skill now grants 'Projectiles deal 25% increased damage with hits and ailments per remaining Chain, up to a maximum of 100%' (previously 15% increased, with no maximum). Get fucked, pconc
>>558904503You can still use instant recovery flasks along with any on-use effects.>>558904049You could scale Endurance charges. 3% from tree, 6% from Jugg, 5% from Elder mod. So that's ~100% from charges, 49% from gem and ~40% from tree without forcing it too much.Sucks that it isn't a slam, you're missing a lot without Seismic cry.
The belt with replenishing shrine is underrated imo. It's free schizo, mana regen for frostmage, etc.
>>558906126> an entire manifesto to cope with the fact that minions had to be massively nerfed so that meleetroons didnt feel eternally cuckedKEK
>>558906341it was only a matter of time, hopefully they nerf all cluster notables
>>558901961she only does tasteful nudes
>>558906546it's not a manifesto, it's a shitpost mocking your awful playstye that only makes the game worse by existing. also melee has been great for 3 years now.
>>558904023>>558905650Hey, this looks bretty gud.I'm gonna steal it, suck ass at it, and wait for someone to do it better.
yeah, it's still frostblades trickster for me
>>558906641> i-i'm mocking you I'm not coping I swear!you niggers first had to rely on totems, then banners, then warcries, now its banners and warcries. but unlike you tards, I am generous. I dont want your shit mmo rotations to dissapear. I just want to not be bothered by them.
i hate path of exile
frost blades feel like big shitdo not get baited
>>558907105Still playing day 1 tho
>>558907140nah it feels good once i get 2 strikes
1 sleep till reliquarian
shadows would fix strike skills
>>558907049>on totemsgone for half a decade>then bannerspassive banners were used on all builds, new banners are used by almost no one<then warcriesautomated>now its banners and warcries. the best melee builds are stat stackers and cold strikes which use neither
37 faps to gay furry porn until reliquarian
i love path of exile
>37How can I learn this power? My skill gems dont go this high
>All Unique Maps are now present on the Atlas, including some OLD FAVORITES that are appearing for the FIRST TIME.This line in the patch notes is bothering me.
>>558907554retard
Oh god… ruetoo grilling snoobaes build on stream again (ice shot of penetration warden)
>>558907554I love killing animals in UP
if im going just for raw number of hits in the shortest amount of time for wand attacks, would it be KBoC w/ Barrage support linked to Spellslinger and Tornado?
>>558907670Is this a bot or why do you keep automatically posting about the boring shit that happens while they wait for league to launch?
oh fub is playing bows? expect him "farming offstream" and getting HH day 2 :^)
>>558907670grill my stanky sausage in /poeg/‘s mouth oven
>>558907807Rue general, tranny
>>558907554Doesn't matter, you only need 10/20 completed for Atlas passives and they're not stupid enough to put HoGM on the Unique map Challenge anymore.
>>558907554It's not a well worded line for sure.
>>558907921I'll take that as a yes.
>>558907787Wall of Force is new but it might add more. I see hydrosphere linked to spellslinger a lot too
I think I will just skip "ground loot" and gold farming entirely next league and run solely "exclusive" dropsI'm tired of pumping difficulty to hell and getting 5 common scarabs, a tabula and 20k gold for my effort
>>558907554Krillson Island
>>558908279>a tabulaFuck yeah, 1 full Divine!
/poeg/ worships fubgun. ground loot le bad. fubgun's game fubgun's loot.
>>558908616this except unironicallyit is His game, you're just playing it
OK fine. Next week I will step into the great unknown and run a Scion with that new Ascendancy.
think i might just skip this league lil bros, I'm tired of poo of excrement at this point
GGGPost the numbers GGGI need someone to make a build that I'll (use for inspiration)
Do we know if Baldo's maps will still be T17 area level?
>>558908805I was gonna play new Scion, but I think they already decided to nerf Widowhail node because it's obviously broken.
>>558908813I'm probably going to wait at least a couple weeks. It seems like they wanted to course-correct after people had easy items with the tree and the first weeks will be eternal shit.not to mention the endgame literally being poo2 shit that everyone hates combined with the worst parts of war of the atlas/ conquerorsthere is a lot of manufactured positivity around this league and it makes me think that its going to be kalandrified
Static strike of gathering lightning, anyone watching that one? If you can get extra target for strike skills to also chain a bunch it would be pretty fun for clear.
>>558905606zombies had 10x the damage and triple the life they do now.
been looking at the few Ward Shatter builds that already exist and while most of them use ignite for clear, the vast majority of the damage is actually in the initial hit. I think the problem is that people just don't know how to re-up the Ward fast enough to actually benefit from the relatively low cooldown of the spell (used to be 0.5s, now it's 0.15s)
Updates for 2026-03-01Spoiler New Patch Notes:Chain Support has a Cost & Reservation Multiplier of 140% (previously 150%)The Follow-Through Notable Cluster Jewel Passive now grants Projectiles deal 20% increased Damage with Hits and Ailments for each remaining Chain, up to 100% (previously 15% increased with no cap)Fixed a bug where Sirus, Awakener of Worlds and The Incarnation of Dread were dropping their uniques more often than intended while in a Feared encounter.
>>558909563Yeah it will probably be like playing a lightning only version of Wild Strike. Smite will still do more damage, but for a mapping character it might be good to have chains. It heavily depends on the damage effectiveness numbers.
Any Poo2ers here?I spent $180 on the good game today, even though I know it's going to go fund your bad game. I'd appreciate a thank you.
I need some motivation to get back on the grind.
>>558910130kek lol hahahaah lmao
Odds, pohx rfEven, magefist flicker
>>558909563I think it's gonna be smite of divine judgment 2.0, not insane dmg-wise but fantastically comfy on like cold slayer or something. And it's gonna work on daggers unlike smite.
>>558884028>you can fracture a mod you could just craft onWoweee!!
>>558910640retard
>>558910130>it's realalso>kek they did it again
wtf were they thinking when they did this?
>>558910709Max of 100% increased damage from a cluster jewel notable is bad now? How many of these clusters were people stacking before?
>>558911159As many as possible. It was like a taming basically for pconc
yeah nah, its crimson desert for me
>>558911071Poo2fication
>>558911071it means "fuck you onemanaleft"
>>558911381good, conner is a faggot
>>558911451He’s based White man, one of the few in the community. Imma take a wild guess and say you’re brown
>>558911552lol you wish
>>558911552look in the mirror abdul
>>558904249only cluster jewels from mappers are capped at 83 but i dont think mappers could give ilvl 86 bases anywayshipping gives them though
the map pool for 3.28 sucks major penisback to city square for me
im already bored with D2 there is no way you are telling me for 20 years mofo's were playing act 1 to 5 and thats it
city square is gonna be the prime map this league.mesa is also small with instant boss, but due to the way stuff spawns i doubt you'll get miraged map boss often.
>>558912301BUT THE COW LEVEL
>>558912301blizzpigs don't actually enjoy the games, they just spend money on every release, realize it's not the game from their childhood, and drop it until the next paid release
>>558912301Why do you think PoE was made to begin with
>>558912301they didn't play it, they just remembered playing it
>>558912301There are people still playing EverQuest, which is peak sovl.
>>558912345I will be running into T16 City Square with my movespeed Pathfinder, clicking on all the Bismuth ore nodes, clicking on all the heist chests, clicking on both again in the mirage, and then leaving the map.
>>558912630i kneel
>>558912630Same, but a different map and different side content
>>558875771>no early game powercreep like Grafts or Mercs from the last two leaguesI hope the imbue coins aren't that rare at least
tyty is doing a flicker 2 stone run
Apperantly sentinel on guardian is a cheatcode for leveling, had no idea
>>558912804i didnt even use grafts or mercs tbqh
>>558912257I love Deli and Wharf is kino for Deli/Breach/Beyond
>Storm Burst: Now places an orb immediately on casting, rather than the first orb being placed one cast into the process of channelling.>Totem Placement speed now also scales the speed at which Totems emerge.That build is looking good, but there's no way in hell I'm playing a totem build in mapping league.
I'm actually so fucking hyped for the new league, I don't even know why, but I am
>>558912852It's basically an RF minion. The damage is nothing special but it is constantly active in a decent AoE, so your character doesn't actually have to do much. I'm planning to take it and then spec out later.
>>558913054>Mapping leagueIs it though? Maybe it's a miraged side content and boss league
>>558913054starters need better single target dps this league than the previous leagues desu
>theuberelite in tyty's chatholy fuck I forgot about this guy and it seems he trooned out
Due to new coins which add link to skill gems what does anon think about random bullshit coc builds?
>>558913161Yeah looks like ill do the same. Ive only ever made one templar before but i dont remember if i leveled it with guardian sentinel or not, think i might have not
>>558913082It's the whole package, not just a temporary mechanic to tinker with, like mercs. That's why it's hype
>>558912630h-hes based
>>558913082im just glad theres no real clear best farming strat now. everything is looking pretty balanced + many new ways to farm literally every mechanic with astrolabes and mirage
>>558913352bro just buy 20 carries from tee eff tee.
>>558913620Why don't you just pay someone to play the game for you while you watch?
>>558913352You don't actually have to do ubers, do you? Catarina is the only one that might make me sweat.
>>558913679He's probably poor and is stinky
>>558913541there will be a few farming strats that are way better than the rest, same as always
>>558913970Hint: It's double blight.
>>558914041maybe but it got nerfed pretty fucking hard enraged hive fortress could be really good, especially if you can do it again in the mirage. it already drops an ok amount of scarabs in a scarab farm map with nemeses
>>558913798with bisection t17 bosses can be beaten by any cripple build
>>558914237there's no bisection scarab unless you mean the 2 scarabs it split into
>>558914312it does the same thing, you roll it with 3 do nothing mods and win
>>558914184Are fortresses a bow only thing (for mental health)? I played the league as cyclone, and I'd be ok if I never saw a hive fortress again
>/poeg/ tries a leaguestarter build from his favorite POEgirl streamer
>>558914492you will need pretty good coverage for it. the new scarab will replace all ailith abilities with an ability that enrages the monsters so you really need to kill them before they reach her
>>558914672I don't get it?
>>558914492Minions or totems are fine too. They are very easy if you just press the activatable buttons.
>Youll never go from lvl 95 to 100 in around 3 hours of doing 5 ways ever again
>>558914752you'll get it when you reach maps lil gup
>>558914836What makes you say that? 5 ways is just as alive as ever
the chink leaker promised more radius jewels, where the fuck are they
>>558914907Like his gear breaks and he doesn't have enough gold to repair it or something?
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rhf3ef/im_going_to_miss_doing_random_map_types_please/
You're not seriously considering playing this upcoming slop, are you...?
>>558915013>he fell for the retard saying timelost jewels are happeningnot a single "leak" ITT was right btw
>>558914923Doesnt it take significantly more runs now? they nerfed the level of the zone from 84 to 82 and they removed that one mod that gave extra exp from rares
>>558915013it seems like every single league mechanic has a special reward in the mirage so there could be new timeless jewels or something
>>558915085I'm gonna play it
>>558915148timeless jewels drop exclusively from 5 ways so I don't think you can mirage a 5 way
>>558915070does twist of fate fuck up shaped region progression now?
>>558915148>every single league mechanicI doubt that
>>558915309allegedly they have a tiny chance to drop from generals in maps although ive never seen it. i have however gotten a voice of the storm from an in map breach once so maybe its real.
>>558915309retard
>>558915085every single build looks like shit, its basically "but its been buffed by 20% if you invest 300 divs!!!11"going back to divided atlas is going to be ass, that much I can see comingthis league is going to be a fucking disaster for everyone other than rmtfags and hideout warriors
>>558915117I dont pay attention to the area level to be honest with you or how its done but it takes 10 runs to go from 99-100 now. I know it was nerfed like 2 years ago but not since then
>>558910185Sounds whatever. I get the feeling it's a skill to use with Living Lightning because you can run supports that benefit both of them (ie. Multistrike, Chain). Plus Hallowing Flame works with Living Lightning too because it's a phys conversion skill
>>558915406even delve and heist probably have something extra from clicking their shit in a mirage
>>558915070ummm doesnt he know thats inefficient? he should be running jungle valley or strand for 500 hours per league
>>558915548Then i might be misremembering when it got nerfed i remember a run gave more or less the same exp as flawless breachstoens which wasnt much
Fubgun just dropped the league starter tier list
>>558915881fubgun hasn't made a single build himself, ever
>>558915881>Personally I don't think there's any S tier builds this patchgod this guy is so insufferable
>>558915406so far confirmed>blight (belt)>delirium (currency to change enchant)>ultimatum (prefix / suffix catalysts)>strongbox (new box type(s))>harvest (mysterious new lifeforce, seems to only stack up to 10)>essence (new essence type)>settlers (ore that gives dust)not that unreasonable to expect every mechanic to have something
why did they remove harbingers makes no sense it was blue and comfy
>>558915881i find it funny RF is still never tiered by these retards even though its been 2nd/3rd played for a while now.might even be number 1 this league with all the nerfs.
>>558915881>no s tier buildsTRVKY
>>558916003they're too smart to stay in poo1 so they fucked off to poo2
>>558915984hes not wrong
>>558916042Because after 4 stone its complete shit arguebly its shit up to 4 stones aswell, not to mention all your invitations you gotta do (no longer have to do favored slots tho)
>>558916178what even is the point of a tier system if the highest tiered item isn't in the highest tier
>>558916001how expensive do you think the blight belt would be if it was well rolled?
>>558915480>this league is going to be a fucking disasterthat seems to be the plan. they're going to slowly (and been doing it for the past 2 years) make poe so shit and unbearable that no one will be playing it at the end so they can freely throw in the towel without repercussionsactual vile people and no one sees it or cares
>>558915309I think there is a very very small chance of getting timeless jewels from generals but also there might be a new emblem to drop
I will base my entire league around which skill MTX I own>Toxic Rain>Smite>BV>KB>DDman, I don't wanna play KBoC for a third league in a row
>>558915984That's a good thing
>>558916291if the best build still is shit and has downsides, I wouldn't call it S-tier. S tier is without a doubt meta defining, near flawless.
>>558916291Because everything in those tiers is being compared against the content available.When there is a goal to achieve, it is entirely possible for there to be "nearly-perfect for this situation" choice.And given how much GGG fucks everything every patch, it is a little impressive anything can get into S for a while now.
>>558916221not really, you just afk on every pinnacle and it maybe takes 10 seconds longer than any other build at that gear level. this line of thought was probably valid 5 years ago though.
>>558916523you can literally clear all content with any build now that t17's are gone
>>558916652your ubers bro
>>558916587You gotta farm for a dot multi and + fire skills sceptre and amulet to be even close to any of those builds on that listMeanwhile all those builds on the list do well with trash from the ground or gambled gearIt was relevant then and its relevant now
>>558916652T17s didn't go anywhere, they're just called Nightmare maps now
>>558916652Your exceptional exiles, sis?
>>558916801nightmare maps are not the same as t17s
>>558916652super juiced blights?
>>558916383>they made a new league with a new atlas because they want the game to be badShouldn't you be playing Diablo 2 if you hate everything new and want to play the same stale meta for decades?
>>558916756not even true, you can go in with a literal 1 stat sceptre and gear with just life and you'll do more damage than pretty much anyone at that point.source: me because i do it day 1 every league.
Wasn't RF the first level 100 last league or something? Just respec something else if you wanna do ubers later.
>>558916873>juicing blights after they GGG'd it
>>558917210doubt RF is slow as shit
>changes were missing from the english patch notes but not the korean onesis ggg a korean company now? how does this even happen?
>>558917218>doing invigoration when you should be doing titanic
Chris Wilson was right, why do you niggers want a build that is super fast and tanky in juiced t16.5s but also somehow a build that does enough damage to comfortably kill uber pinnacles
whats fubs 3.28 build gonna be
>>558917345bows
>>558917345doesn't matter because he will RMT day 2 and reroll after "farming offstream"
>>558917272I didn't even know GGG translates patch notes>>558917210first records are irrelevant, that shit is carried by groups (bitchboys). Solo players don't compare
>>558917328what's so weird about wanting a build that does all content in the game?>>558917345tornado shot
>>558917295non-invigoration is still nerfed because blightheart and blooming are gutted
>>558916652YOU might be able to, shamelessly copying (streamer of choice), but I can't, making my own builds.
>>558917328huh? My build does all of those things
>>558917408I don't know how often I have told you ITT that you can literally watch his full uncut VODs where he farms a HH and 20+ div in the first 20 hours.
>>558917442blooming is unchanged for adding bosses, blightheart is a minor nerf because you want boss lanes, not the trash random mobs.but you're effectively getting double the loot each map because you can also do blight in the mirage.
>>558917674sure he does fubsissy
>>558917250>slow LOLyou've seen people doing melee voidstone runs right?RF kills exarch and eater twice as fast and doesnt have to dodge anything.as for mapping nothing is faster at that point in progression
>>558917683>Blight Scarab of the Blightheart no longer doubles the number of waves spawned in Blight encounters. It now guarantees each portal has 2 additional waves, with chances for a 3rd and 4th wave to occur.does this not mean you get like 60% the amount of waves you would normally get?
>>558917250>>558917421It was the first lvl 100 in SSF though https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepersssf/?timemachine=day-2If you're just walking through T16 Toxic Sewers for experience then RF is the fastest thing you can do on zero budget.
>>558917423>>558917546its retarded for builds to be so powercrept that it can do all content equally as easily
>>558917880>Toxic Sewers
>removed Glacier and Toxic Seweersconfirmed worst league in the history of POE
They will have to emergency fix the loot since nothing will drop for the first 24 hours.
>>558917901>builds being able to do content is powercreepnext you'll tell me builds being able to get out of the campaign is actually powercreep. let me play the fucking game Jonatroon. You made a game with content, let people do the content???
>>558918065None of that matters now that Mesa is back
>>558918185mesa was in 3.27 though lil gup
>>558918104I think they should remove all skills in the game except just one that deletes all mobs on the screen
>>558915984ok, but can you refute what he said
Why can't we just have every map?For nolifers, it changes nothing because they target-farm the "best" of like 3 maps.For casuals, it changes nothing because they don't care that much.>Muh Atlas passive economyHardcap it, just like Unique Maps.
>>558918098DOUBLE loot and DOUBLE map mechanics.
>loot is fine, fubgun and snap are stupid>let me demonstrate with with my standard-only build that has legacy quant gear and gem>sooo yea, just subtract a bit of this loot and it's fine see?>his demo proves fub was exactly right even with all his Standard juiceThis chirgugh guy might actually be clinically retarded
>>558918098drops will be fine with my seed thoughbeit?perhaps consider purchasing a completely supporterpack ;)
>>558918236Yes, i dont mean that its coming in 3.28 i meant i dont care what maps come and go now that i have it back
>>558918263the new atlas is unironically this but for maps
if you arent delving in 3.28 you are a loser
>>558918554Dang
fubs is gonna have a hh day 3 and another "this is a crazy 1000000 div/h farm"
>>558918435He did it in 3.26 aswell shilling some div card strat with his standard IIQ gear kekI dont know if he’s trolling or not. I guess that explains why he has comments disabled. Flashy farming strat vids with nobody in the comments to clarify to the dumbasses that they aint getting anything close to that
>>558918554My delvewife says this
>>558918554I love you too, steve
>>558917812depends what the base amount of waves is. the scarab itself says 'many more waves', but that actually just means double now confirmed? it also makes some bosslanes shit out bosses only, which is some side effect? is that still in? it's unclear. but with doing the blight twice it should still be just as profitable if not more
>>558918263true, they should add the equivalent of this to poe already
>>558918554delve is incel content
>>558916383I think that they're just completely retarded. They think "if we make poe 1 slow, boring and shit, people will want to play poe 2 which is slow, boring and shit too but it has better graphics"from where I stand thats going to be their death but as long as we get 1 as an offline moddable game they might as well kill themselves after because some blessed retard will make the best arpg experience ever>>558916995> a new atlas> newthis is literally conquerors of the atlas with some war of the atlas sprinkled. how fucking new are you
Abyss might be tolerable in mirages cause it's contained in a circle
>Added a new Atlas Keystone Passive, The Paths Not Taken, which grants Divination Cards found in your Maps are from two random other Maps instead of the one you’re in.fun node, might put this on all my atlas trees and definitely get some free apothecaries from it.
>>558918689you are the actual newtard here, the only way it's similar to conquerors is in appearance
>>558918554SteveFucksDelveAsses69
>>558918778retard
>>558917328> why do you niggers want a good buildits called having fun, if your entire concept of the game is "must accumulate divines" I dont even think you could ever understand
>>558918845>if your entire concept of the game is "must accumulate divines" I dont even think you could ever understand... wanting to clear everything as fast as possiblebig if true
>>558918821wrong
>>558918263that already exists, its called rmt
>>558918945
>>558918778I honestly hate this keystone. It will he correct to scry every map on the atlas, making sure you remove the bottom half of the maps. But that is so much fucking busywork, yet its still correct to do
>>558919045surely it won't respect scried cards, that defeats the whole retardmaxxing concept of the keystone
every skill should be able to map well, clear well, and boss wellit should allow you to be tanky and fastit should have a huge AoEif you hate this then you hate having fun
>>558919007incorrect
>>558918554i just dont like mine niggingthe only 3 reasons one would have to mine nig if are selling minion shit, aul carries or you liking it
>>558919201
>>558919045>Scry pairing every single FUCKING map on the Atlas that you canMiserable beyond words, good lord.
>>558919114Why would it not? I mean it might not but that should be stated on the keystone (it wasnt)
I'm just gonna run maps and have a good time
>>558919284uh-uh
>>558919045psycho retard behavior
>>558919396DELETE THIS
>>558919316because the point of the keystone is obviously to let you just run whatever map without caring about scrying it. there's absolutely no way they would add a keystone that lets you double the amount of good cards you get after scrying the whole atlas, that's psychotic
>>558919396im sorry sit but we do not have fun here
>>558919045I wouldn't mind that, it sounds relatively 'tard friendly, just that it can also be abused to hell and back.>Retards can run any map they want and steadily replace all the bad map cards with good map cards and get consistently rewarded as they slowly narrow their scope of grind>Autists get to hurt themselves by obsessing over it and how inefficient it is to "waste time" doing Scry pairing optimizations instead of actually farming what they want
>>558918928good pointthat being said, still, what I meant about this is that people just hate on the idea of good all-rounder builds because of fomo. if nobody gives a shit about econofagging, suddenly fun is allowed againthe problem with that is that the game is balanced around trade so the normal ssf experience is dragging your balls through glass.
>>558919045Honestly not even. Just remove that absolute trash maps with zero redeemable div cards. If it has any even slightly good div card dont bother scrying it. But i still assume to optimize it you’d have to end up scrying maybe 20% of all atlas maps, which would take a couple hours
why are you guys theorizing whether or not scrying works for the keystone, it already doesn't work right now. When you scry a map, it doesn't respect any other map that was scried to THAT map.
>>558918675thorns already exist in poe 2 and it is an objectively worse and more boring gamenow: there is no correlation between those two things, thougheverbeit, the introduction of a comfy mechanic doesnt make content designed to be boring and annoying less of that.
>>558919704scryable div cards shift every league
>>558919685retard
That new retaliation skill repeats from minions or something, that's a cool quirk but its still a retal skill>>558919284
katite tred sinov'a blyadei
guys fubgun said if it was sirgog giving him backshots he wouldn't partakejustice for our boy goggogshots for everyone
POOP
>>558920597retal skills are cool thoughbeithapsthinks
>transtranskiller still lives with his parentsHis dad must be so proud
They should make an automation skill gem for retaliation skills
>>558921247your bitter instinct???
>>558921179legitimately sickening that people pay attention to and give money to this tranny dead end
He won. Holy relic will be meta this league
>>558921559Oh right, Holy Strike and use Holy Relic.That'll be fun.
>>558907554its a buff not having to kill that wakafuckapoo fleeing shitstain
>>558921559>>558921589why is holy relic good
>>558921589shit that actually does sound good, never underestimate being able to use 2 full powered skills at once
>>558921559i absolutely hate the fact that everything minion related has to jump through the "pay the chance to poison jewels goy" taxthe archetype has been destroyed
>>558921836Who the fuck plays minions for poison
>>558921645Every time you attack, Holy Relic (2 of them if using the alt gem, +1 if using Geofri helmet which is a great early mapping hat) pops a damaging phys nova in a (not super small, but fairly small) radius. Holy Strike is already melee range and stacks minion damage, so you get to multi-dip on even more bonus damage.As you progress, it will be less valuable and you'll probably shift to something else, but it's a great way to get a source of strong flat damage early on in a build that doesn't see much general use outside of Dom Blow.. Which doesn't see much use at all.
>>558882739i used zero buzzwords
>>558921645you get life on hit so you dont care about the maven's retarded beam of aidsyou dont have to summon a thousand weapons every map you loadthe damage is competitive once you manage to stack all the cooldown reductionthats it. yes the bar is that low.
>>558921993What rock have you been living under, lad?SRS > Absolution > SRS > Poison SRS > Spiders Guardian/Necro has been a serious build progression path for years now.
>>558882948Exsang is great lil gup, as much damage projection as your average bow build
>>558922178why is srs on there twice?
>>558921559i played his build last league, it was pretty comfy as expected from a fat man in a hawaiian shirt
>>558921993anon...almost every minion goes the chance to poison route except spectres. reaper does not apply because nobody plays it.srs? poison. aw? poison. holy relic? poison exceptions to this might be the srs guardian, which is barely ok for non-juiced red maps, and I would like to say soulwrest but I have never even looked at that shit so it might want the poison too
>>558922324thrice
>>558921589so how's the savior + holy strike gonna work
>>558884459He got lvl100 on opening weekend>>558882757Read the convergence node again
>>558916873I don't have enough money for the RAM and GPU needed for juiced blight encounters in maps
>>558922324Because Absolution is miles ahead of SRS for leveling.You just don't get Absolution until Merveil's Cavern, so there is a not-insignificant chunk of early gameplay before Absolution where you use SRS instead.>>558922398It literally won't since Holy Strike requires Mace, Sceptre, or Staff.
>>558922398Now this is cope I'm gonna believe in
>>558922480i see. thanks
>>558922364And why exactly are all these builds going poison?
>>558922480so use mace in offhand and mainhand savior, it'll use offhand to hit and copy your mainhand weapon for the minion
>>558922752retard
>>558922775this aint poe2 sir, your skills arent disabled for using the wrong weapon in your main hand
>>558922775I'm starting to suspect that a certain retard keeps making those posts saying impossibly retarded things just to get you to reply with another "retard."Cause there's a pretty consistent string of them (a fair few with exactly 1 . at the end and nowhere else) scrolling up the thread like a hundred or more posts now.
>>558922916shut the FUCK up
>>558922941retard.
Holy hammer legion farming
>>558922419>Read the convergence node againread flame golem again
>>558923117holy cringe batman
>>558923180retard
>holy strike mjolnir>12 lightning skills going off>1 of them gets an extra link with imbue
>>558923337Sadly mjolnir wont work with the holy strike
>>558923337i bet your anal virginity that they don't inherit the gems in your weapon.
>>558923337Alright, I'll do it
>>558923526>>558923526>>558923526
>>558923158>20%>as much as one singular notableAlso you can't test self poison for hits on minesDoubly also I'm looking at the pobs and she did the classic miner mistake of not leaving enough mana unreserved for your mine cap. It's gonna feel like ass to play.
>>558922752On the impossibly-tiny off-chance that you aren't shitposting and actually don't know, from the dual wielding weapons page on the wiki (changed 7 years ago):>Skills must be compatible with with both equipped weapons to be usable. For example,Reave cannot be used with a dagger and a sceptre
>>558923598>skills that use both weapon simultaneouslyretard
>>558923871Go on then, use Ground Slam while wielding a mace and dagger. I'll wait.
>>558917328because that is fun?
>>558917901no it isn't
>>558922665Damage. Its incredibly costly to scale other damage sources. If it was on me I would make the damage scaling on minions better, but I'm not ggg
