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Previous thread >>558617936

Nioh 3 is out
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3681010/Nioh_3/
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>>558961810
I think it's another bugged effect again
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>>558965183
Will Smith and?
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>>558968849
Tommy Lee Jones
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Another one from my photoshoot with Kasha.
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I kinda miss nioh 1 PVP it sure was a different beast (in both geared and balanced mode)
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The more I play NG+ the more I realize Nioh 3 is the smallest scope Nioh game if not Team Ninja game in years. RotR commercially bombing despite having clearly several times the project scope and budget has had drastic consequences. Team Ninja will never be afforded more than breadcrumbs if they don't know what to do with it.
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Compared to nioh 2 the skill balancing is pretty bad
>Reverse Impact doing 2x Iai Quickdraw for the same speed for no reason
>Earth Carver damage is like 2x the Nioh 2 version, despite the fact that it was the best axe poke back then too (now it's like a nuclear bomb)
>Tornado Edge just outclasses most axe charge skill outside of Rumbling Earth, which is a ki damage tool
>Ninja Katana kick combo deals insane HP AND ki damage (it feels like it was only meant to do good ki damage, like most kick skills)
>Odachi skills got gutted (Bolting Boar can't knock yokai down, Moonlit Snow Redux basically deals 0 damage), also bounce off enemy guards in mid stance now, and it has the worst mid stance Frost Moon
I guess we'll have to wait for DLC before some major shakeups happen but goddamn I miss Nioh 2 making most skills matter in one way or another. Here I spam some skills too much.
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>>558971346
people REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY like killing yokai over humans
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>>558972097
>Your Gweilo character enters a burning boat
>Giant ass Yokai taking up half the space inside lumbers around with iron chains
>BWEE BWEE BWEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tup-JjG1ls
Still unmatched in atmosphere
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>>558970251
wtf it had pvp?
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>>558972837
ye
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>>558971346
Not the first time an open world title from Koei Tecmo wasn't well received, people didn't like how that turned out in Dynasty Warriors 9 either. Nioh 3's attempt was more well received not only because it's world was more compact, but also because it's designed better and is more chock full of life and content around every corner.
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>>558977023
i've liked Nioh 3's "open zone" well enough, but i wish i wish there were neutral zones populated with friendly npc's and such to make it feel more alive, and i wish NG+ was enhanced by default, and had new stuff to loot so re-exploring feels both new and worthwhile, right now it's kinda useless not grinding a crucible, outside of clearing off spikes and wraiths
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>>558978646
>but i wish i wish there were neutral zones populated with friendly npc's and such to make it feel more alive
Same. You do come across a number of friendlies in each timeline, but for the most part they're spread thin with a few story related characters hanging around near each other, and a few masters here and there. As the DLCs get released, I'm hoping more permanent human NPCs will fill up the Eternal Rift at least, all we got in there right now is Toyo, the Tea Guy, and the Dung Lover.
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>>558978646
Funny how the demo had more NPCs because it had guards at the gates
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>>558970251
You know, this would probably be more fun if you could pick the human bosses.
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>>558969425
Should have taken this without your character in it.
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Replayed the older games, holy crap is there even one new enemy type in 3? They even reused major bosses i forgot about. And only 2 dlcs coming, probs just a new boss each and reuse assets for all else. They really did the bare minimum.
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>>558982883
Also the biggest nerf in general are those umbrella enemies. Add in a few spinning around constantly paralyzing you. Meanwhile in 3 dont think they ever ailed me.
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>>558980774
They likely cut all npcs because of jeetgers with trash old CPUs can't run the game
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>>558982883
Also replaying 1 and yeah I'm surprised to see enemies I thought were new in 2.
Nioh 1 still has bad enemy variety but the encounter design makes up for it, spawning 3 enemies at once sometimes and then locking you up, they really need more of that in 3.
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I just know reading the comments to this will inflict mental damage.
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>>558983779
Yeah i had to adjust a bit with my style. These dont have as much bullshit as i remember it, but they can really get to you in some of those long stages or when they add a bunch of cannon skeletons and stuff. I think in general 3 is also not optimized for the jump mechanic gameplay wise but it did add more freedom in how you do certain stuff. Some levels in 1 and 2 were really cryptic also, proper oldschool.

If you add a jump in 1/2 locking up would be much less of an issue. Its too OP.
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>>558982883
I'm thinking what are the new enemies. Shunobon, jailer oni, lightning monk, mermaid, horseman, yamabiko, yamainu, nozuchi and kyokotsu. not sure who I'm missing but I don't count any reskins. They just put way too many jailer oni everywhere instead of other enemies.
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>>558984529
That is true. I wonder why i disregard it. It likely has to do with the easy factor, they tickle you and ya rape em. That fear factor adds into remembering them. Ill never forget that first oni encounter in 1, that moment was legendary.
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>>558982264
nah, I want to show that kasha just got nothin' personnel'd
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>>558961810
From my experience it does work, at least the divine affix for it. The thing is that it's not really worth it right now unless you want more immediate (On Life Recovery) buffs, we don't hit hard enough for the lifesteal to let us health-gate in ways Amrita couldn't do. It does work on all weapon attacks, quick/light/martial arts.

>>558980774
The guards still exist in-game if you go to that gate in the very early game while exploring.

I just wanna talk to TN, just a nice friendly chat over at a hibachi where I'll be dining on their fucking balls. I hold TN to respectable standards, especially coming from Nioh 2 but here? HERE? Absolute, unapologetic, unrepentant spaghetti the likes of which causes spiritual damage (even worse than Ninjitsu getting some of the melee-damage bonuses). Last I checked this boots up with a Team Ninja logo, not GEARBOX
>>Preamble
>Kagetoki
Why does his set not tie into summoning seals? The one bastard in the fight that uses them and yet unacknowledged here.
>Enduring Burst
No clue how this works, I can't throw biggest bombs after I get a burst and that shouldn't be classified as a Shadow Art by any definition. Might be bugged as I couldn't get a free shuriken in testing either.
>Thrown Blade Counter
Actually procs ninjitsu hit effects so there's cool synergy here between Wrathful Dragon and Faster Movement procs. Good on ya TN.
>Accessories
Why can't we reroll them? You already have their affixes tagged for Embracite, we're in DotD rules with graces/160+10, let us reforge accessories in Shogun's Journey.
>Kurama Tengu
Wind application where? It's so slow and only just as good as Uncanny Breeze (4 to apply wind w/ the 24% buff).
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>>The Seals
>max untouched seals
66.2% with Fujiwara + Purifying Presence + Mysterious of Summoning, you can't roll this on armor pieces/accessories so I hope you weren't planning on using any of the 1x boss seals like the Demon of Pride, Hiruko, Bloodedge Demon or Ibaraki Doji unless you wanted to sack fast magic (and unlock a realm of infinite suffering). Why is it a 9 cost mastery option? Why does Onmyo have 3 masteries all tied up to itself? Why can't all boss cores start at 2x instead of this weird dichotomy? Why can't we set 2 soul cores per form? Yorimitsu and Kagetoki certainly had more than just 2 summons in their fights.
>DMG boosts
None work besides elemental damage on the elemental damage of seals. This includes the melee DMG vs poisoned if you ever thought Kyuzuryu was ever tested beyond a Sincere Buddha build Soon TM and even ATK Mastery for the most base of damage boosts. Despite scaling with weapon dmg, Attack Bonus (stat) doesn't work because fuck you. Debuffs do work like Weakness Talismans so there's that to really help throttle their damage (don't look at Hellshock's DMG).
>Wandering Shrine's final bonus
Cringe it doesn't work with Barrier talismans but you can buy infinite stock of the waters from Rift Sudama for 400 a pop, when enemies drop thousands before items. This triples your seal's ki dmg from what I can tell, further stacks with Berserk from Nuppeppo which is actually pretty cool for a high risk/reward setup alongside Wind. Note Berserk doesn't boost your spell damage while Carnage does but does stack with it for melee if you're ballsy.
>Affixes
So your armor doesn't matter and your weapon barely does for spells. Accumulation increase is the best we got, can't even put generic elemental damage on them, maybe spirit focus affix is decent if you've good GS skills. Nothing for seals.
>tl;dr
Without leaning on coinflips, seals are just ki dmg, onmyo/ninjitsu is dmg dmg.
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Is there any other way of getting crucible weapons? Can they drop from the small crucibles scattered across the map?
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>>559000575
I've never had one drop at a lesser crucible, maybe others can weigh in.
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Doing nioh 1 dlc and the bosses feel pretty slop, like fuck you if you actually want a real fight they feel designed around cheese, I did kill Maria first try in about 20 seconds before I saw what she did but I’m sure it’s aids
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>>559000575
Only actual crucibles.
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When you kill a wraith and on the side it says item drop chance increased, what is that referring to?
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>>559002984
I think it says how much drop chance you've accumulated in the sudama blessing menu.
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>underground cave
>anti-paralysis needles start dropping
>dead guy starts talking about a yokai with wings
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>>559002984
It's specifically referring to the drop rates of rare soul cores for that yokai, it's weird but the game's trying to say "(x) Soul Core Drop Rates Increased".
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The game locked out the Demon of Pride arena on my new save, I was in a solo expedition at the time to level sync it. I went there as early as possible, died once, came back and there's black, swirly fog blocking the entrance as if I were a visitor waiting for the host to start the fight. It probably uses the same logic as the master fights but there's a strange exception because the demons spawn by proximity instead of talking to an NPC. That is a fucked up soft lock though, I know I can just skip it and grab the skill on NG+ but now there's a possibility more things will break in solo expeditions, I'm just going to put the game down for now with how buggy it is.
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>>559003365
I thought for sure it was going to be a nure-onna boss, I missed the amrita memory thing with the guy talking about wings first time around.
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>>559003365
they nerfed the fuck out of paralysis, even if you manage to get paralyzed it lasts like 3 seconds
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>>559003365
>>559004175
you can also break out of it using guardian skills
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>>559004175
>>559004545
why is nioh 3 so ensloppified, I feel like so many of the design principles have been watered down
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>>559004545
I had to make sure myself that I get grabbed by nure-onna and hino-enma, and joro-gumo, and kasha, and...
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Can I beat Nioh 1 if I managed to beat all of 2, but got hard stuck at 1's Hino-enma?
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>>559004175
>they nerfed the fuck out of paralysis, even if you manage to get paralyzed it lasts like 3 seconds

You can blame tryhards for that. They complain endlessly about something being too easy even when they don't use it, all because they want everyone to play exactly like them. It isn't just a thing for Team Ninja games, it happens to all games where there are tryhards.
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>>559004715
somebody told them to dumb the game down to appeal to a broader audience
100%
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>>559007156
cmon its really not that bad
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>>559009209
Stop talking nonsense. Team Ninja changes stuff because of many different reasons, with player outcry being one of them, from both casuals and tryhards.
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>>559009675
my source is it was revealed to me in a dream
but i'm right
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>>559007156
You can do it for sure.
I just did it again recently and basically she's way easier to beat if you spend ninjutsu points on anti paralysis pills and have some lightning onmyo, and just play super defensively. Enenra or the fucking snake weren't easier in 2 I think.

Nioh 1 gets easier once you have enough base stats for decent HP and Ki/Ki pulsing.
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>>559007590
...guardian spirit paizuri
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>>559007590
Wait, the beak is just a mask?
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Is there a max power to the Bloodedge demon? Because I've been killing dozens of revenants, and now this motherfucker seems unbeatable.
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>>559012148
>Wait, the beak is just a mask?
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We're just about done I presume? There's shockingly very limited content and replayability. Builds don't really matter either. I feel rather disappointed with Nioh 3 relative to Nioh 2. Why did they make another if they didn't try nearly as hard?
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>>559017094
Did you play Nioh 2 at launch? 3 still doesn't have it's expansions yet, it's always like this.
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>>559017094
same as always
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>tfw treasure room in the underworld
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>>559017917
nioh 2 wasn't this bad, cmon now
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>>559018931
i just think it's pretty
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>>559019017
it was exactly this bad. so was nioh 1.
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>>559017917
Nioh 3 is still a much smaller game overall. It feels worse off.
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>>559017094
i was holding out a little bit of hope that they would have some early depths equivalent on release but otherwise this is pretty much what i expected after 2
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>>559019109
no it wasn't
t. played both niohs on release
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>>559019017
Yes it was. You nigga never played nioh 1 and 2 on release and it's painfully obvious
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>>559017094
At least it isnt launch WoLong level of unpolished.
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>>559019298
Both of those games launched with one (1) NG+, just like this one.
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>>559019219
This
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>>559019298
either el retardo or bad memory
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>>559019219
it's smaller because there aren't 50 almost featureless labyrinths to get lost in over and over
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>>559020062
by on release he meant when it released on pc
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Personally, I am honest about never playing a Team Ninja game without its DLCs. So I guess I'm still just waiting.
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>>559020204
that is another possible scenario
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>>559019027
Do you also break all of the boxes at once and leave the loot so you can admire it all on the ground together?
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>>559020210
You can always play RotR, it is never getting a DLC, haha.........
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>>559020507
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>>559019017
>>559019219
Launch is always like this, the games always add new difficulty levels that fully revamp things alongside the expansions. I've been playing Nioh since the very first alpha of 1, I wonder if some of you guys are used to playing them when they launched on PC after they got all their expansions. They did a simultaneous console+PC releases this time which is a first for the series. The only thing I will say is that it sucks that there's no twilight missions.
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>magoichi
faggot
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>>559021037
>The only thing I will say is that it sucks that there's no twilight missions.
If they were smart they'd tease them in like April or May and launch them as a free update in say June or July, give everyone stuff to do to get them playing again before the first DLC in September. But what do I know, I'm just a consumer.
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>>559020210
Nigga you do ng+ and you drop it till next dlc. It is more fun like this. Most people i know burned out on 2 after completing the game and moving on. It is much more likely and more fun that everyone comes back on dlc day. Sure, this thread will slowly die and probably be done next week, but we can all do ng++/+++ on dlc day and ++++/+++++ next year without getting burned out.
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>>559020210
That means you'll play NG4 soon, right
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>>559021724
nta but i aint buyin that shit full price since im probly only gonna play it once
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>>559021724
that's platinumslop, not TN
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>>559020210
I did that for the second game and it was so much better than waiting for DLC like I did with Nioh 1.
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>>559022001
I want to see a Nioh spinoff by Platinum then.
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>>559022001
>Slop this, slop that
That word has been thoroughly run through the dirt. Just letting you know that I think less of you, and anyone else who uses that term unironically.
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>give all the shit to the Dung Eater
>surprinsingly, he gives me the key to the storehouse on the second floor
>it's all random loot trash
some doors should stay closed
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>>559021478
>he dares mocking me as I die
aiieee fuck you
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>>559022317
The eternal rift was kinda lame, half of the people vanish half way through the game, there's new spots you get access to with basically nothing going on there, AND THAT ONE SPIRIT VEIN WON'T REGISTER THAT I'VE USED IT SO THE MAP ALWAYS LIES AND SAYS THERES SOMETHING NEW THERE AAAHHHHHHH
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>>559021037
I've been playing since the whatever demo it was where you had to repair gear. I don't remember much from so long ago though.
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>>559021724
>buying a Platinum game full price
I'm waiting for $30 for the full package.
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>>559022261
Same, but for "unironically".
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>>559021627
Its the mindset of people that play live service games, the game needs to constantly be giving you incentives and roadmaps and drip fed content to play for 3,000 hours otherwise its shit. Doesn't matter if they enjoy playing it, as long as they can get their shiny shiny jpegs they'll clap and cheer that the game is good.
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I give us 3 more days
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>Onmoraki
I'm THIS fucking close to just summoning a visitor to nuke this fucking bird to oblivion and never see it again.
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>>559023965
the demonic chinese chicken filters another
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>Kuzuryu after stress testing
Can I please just become a demon? I don't care about whatever bad ending Yokai Itemistu gives because this complete failure needs help, a lot of help, more help than me and I see leashes as a wedding ring worn on the neck. If anyone has got advice, let me know because from my testing on combat scenarios in NG+ it is completely unsatisfying (at best decent burst down a 1v1 because of the onmyo spells you're still using here, seals bully humans on ninjas?).
>>Problems
>Frame data
Every step in this grace is pain and suffering, multi-second long animations of no dodging that it expects you to do continuously with no worthwhile animation cancels. Seals are sluggish because of the 3 second delay for the attack + 2 second cooldown after its done. Sacred Waters are sluggish because of the casting animation you can't speed up even with Guardian Spirit animation cancels (go through 80% of it to get the buff). All of which while accounting the need for positioning just so your seal isn't wasted. Permanent Lightning/Sloth helps with all of this but you don't start missions with full ninja and you want to wait for dark realm to dump onmyo spells so the confusion might last. And this frame data means even trying to splash this as "Sam Ninjitsu" for ki-regen is folly.
>Quality/Quantity
Either you get too little to work with that even a NINE cost mastery + 60% untouched doesn't fix, or trying to empty it out isn't worth it because of the extreme whiff potential they have and long delays in every step of casting them.
>Advice
Otorashi and Onmoraki are the best for this if you hate yourself. Both have easy positioning requirements (ranged/flying), former is solid lingering ki DMG while the latter is Poison application so your hatchets can do more damage when trying to play the range game this can't fucking support. Alternatively just use go for some Kato+ Ninjitsu build and never look back.

At least I can say hatchets are cool after using them.
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Im surprised they didnt do a mission mode so they could rehash and pad with nioh 1/2 missions.
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im starting to get the hang of using flash attack in nioh 2. feels nice
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>>559023965
legit one of the easiest bosses in the game, it's a big lump that just sits there for you to use one of those hold triangle skills that do 100000 damage to big lumps
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Just a little bit before crimson desert, the GOTY. Patience.
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>>559025584
ive seen like 30 seconds of trailers for it and it already passed my vibe check
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Anyone know how to fix the game looking like blurry dogshit on an Nvidia card please?
It's like this regardless of graphics settings. Nioh 2 didn't have this issue for me, it looked very clear.
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>Hold Y on axe
>Everyone dies
Legit how do you even lose playing axe?
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>>559025584
Looks like shit
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>>559025584
wasn't that a korean mmo that came out years ago
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>>559025584
I'm still not sure if I trust what I've seen. Seems too good to be true.
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>>559025729
force Preset M if you have an rtx4000/5000.
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>>559025576
I thought it was the hardest boss in NG+
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>>559026521
Ah it's a 2000 sadly, hope there's still some way to fix it.
Makes me not wanna buy it if i can't which would be very sad...
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>>559026845
Then force preset K or J and just increase your resolution (you can select the res in percent in the game menu).
It shouldn't be blurry at least. Make sure to turn off all post processing except "subsurface", too (they sometimes turn themselves back on for me)
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>>559025584
>>559025656
typical all style no substance gookslop
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>>559025584
I saw some videos, is it a dynasty warriors game or a shadow of mordor/batman arkham press x to awesome game?
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>>559028053
a bit of both actually
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>>559026317
it's by the BDO devs but it's a single player game with no microtransactions
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I don't remember but does the final area drop Crucible weapons?
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>>559029458
yup
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>>559028126
sounds like it's kingdoms of amalur: reckoning 2026 edition
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Do Kappas still kancho the player in Nioh 3? I don't think they've tried to do that to me yet
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Is there a way to change interact back to circle/B without also moving ki pulse?
They're so fucking retarded for making interact R1, who wanted this?
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>>559034018
I've seen them do a grab animation that looks like it but it never hit me, so not sure
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>>559034018
they made them do it less i think
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>>559034320
me.
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>>559034571
No you didn't.
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>>559034635
yes i did
i got the carpal tunnels
autoloot is letting me play a lot more without my hand hurtin
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and shoulder buttons are easier on the fingers
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>>559028346
>by the BDO devs
>no microtransactions
I'll believe that when I see it.
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the dlc will fix the eternal rift (including a light source in the change appearance area)
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>>559036139
granted, but that will be the entire DLC
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>>559035694
it's such an easy to disprove claim i can't imagine they are lying
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>>559026521
Preset M does help but Nioh 3 still looks "muddy" textures wise. It was also a problem in RotR but seems to have worsened here.
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why is tangle strike lightning the only mve that does damage on kusa
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>>559037768
post chinkgod kinos
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is there a tell for what kagetoki is about to summon or is it just random? think i hate this stupid fucking boss either way though
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RotR was mid as hell so why do I want to replay it?!?
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>farm that room in A Sinister End until my item box is full
>one level 168 item and 0 yasakani
>soul match limit is still 160
Well this isn't any fun.
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>>559037032
crimson flurry deletes kit on both human and yokai
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I hope the DLCs confirm that Hiddy took Mumyo as a wife. He's the only one who hasn't scored yet
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whats nice about having shit specs is that the demon summoner guy's demons take like 20 seconds to spawn after he whips the box out and he can't summon more until they do their attack
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>>559042727
>he
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>>559043162
Unless someone can confirm his benevolent grave in Nioh 3 looks like your Nioh 2 design, he's pretty much male by default.
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>>559043391
Just looked into it, he does default to this
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>>559043957
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>>559044302
>one of the Ni-Oh buddhist statues poses
Does he do that after the tutorial boss is dead?
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>>559045093
Yes
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nice
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>>559037032
kusa is the only ACTUALLY shit weapon in the game. and still pretty viable
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Got some sets so here's some numbers
>Himiko's set
DMG buff is 10% like the others and the ki regen I think is around the 15% mark? Hard to eye it but I wouldn't be shocked if it was the same as the other ki-regen boosts. Really good set to splash a grace on for ninja, main weakness is that you aren't getting a boost on top of the amrita DMG boost but easy ki-regen on ninja's nice as can the little extra damage/status (7%-ish on 99 Magic) for the guardian spirit skill if you lean on it.
>Shock Troops
Prepare to be disappointed. The agility is about 2.5% more damage even with a light helmet because this is medium armor and no, 99 STA won't let you have A Agility. Now for the enhanced bonus. It seems to be over 1% per enhancement you have (I got 2.8% more damage on two on-amrita buffs, elemental weapon is considered a buff).
>Last Ninja
So baseline is over 20% when you have Stealth from the title, what about adding on more stealth from your gun and accessory? AA Stealth is a nice 25% more damage, and technically you could get more stealth as I didn't max the familiarity on my bow, just baseline with the accessory (2 c- stealth boosts). Think I found what I'll do for a hatchet build because fuck Kuzuryu with Date's Infinite Living Weapon Hat.
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Hmm, looks like I've died about 151 times so far, and I'm still playing through the Warring States period in NG+
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>>559043957
>>559044302
why didnt he help us in nioh 3
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Is it possible to beat Kunimatsu without parrying/deflecting?
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>>559046952
Just dodge around and bomb his ass.
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>>559046517
not uncommon for honorable playthroughs
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>>559046792
Lets see here...
-In 1572, he would have been busy working with Nobunaga and Tokichiro, I don't think Hide has ever interacted with Ieyasu
-Heian period in this game takes place a year after the events of the Tengu's Disciple DLC, so he would have already left that time period
-Bakumatsu is so far into the future that there ain't no telling what even happened him nor Mumyo
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>>559047909
lots of sex and shiftling babies
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>>559046952
yes, simply don't get hit
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>>559046507
>>Hiruko's set
>7pc
This boosts most instances of elemental damage, sadly I can't find too much a rhyme or reason onto what this fucking himbo works with but here goes. First some numbers because he only deals with BIG NUMBERS. The elemental boost? 125% to both damage and accumulation, 553 goes to 1249. The spirit force cost? Also a lot, typically 25% of your bar but that's if its boosting a big number versus something smaller. Shami-choro's light GS skill had a 50% price increase, Tengen Kujuku was almost the entire bar, but elemental weapon was much less in comparison. And yes, you need to pay the spirit force to actually get the boost, can't commit tax fraud.
>Doesn't work with
Hellspark Talisman/Thunderous Calamity (either bug or just the cost too damn high for 129.5 to pay out), heavy guardian spirit skills, even if they have a physical component to it, and summoning seals (because fuck you). Paralysis/Poison aren't counted as elements so no accumulation there.
>What it does boost
The splash from imbue weapon/talismans/shadowclad/tengen/elemental martial arts work. So do light guardian spirit attacks even if they don't have a physical damage component. There's also the other onmyo spells like Thunderbolt, hellfire, hellgust, and both parts of the familiars (the contact damage, which brings you back to Nioh 2 accumulation, and the heavy attack, where 4 boosted balls equates to Hellspark but requires nigh a full bar of spirit force to do). Lastly Ninjitsu. Shadow arts that isn't Thunderous Calamity (uncanny bolt works) get boosted with glacial calamity being pretty efficient (quarter of a bar instead of half like the others). Also applies to all fiery explosions (fire shurikens, biggest bomb, shrapnel bombs), with smaller explosions asking for less while big bomb is spirit force hungry.
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>>559049917
>final addendum
It does the damage boosting while in Living Artifact, AT NO COST (this means 125% more magic/ninjitsu damage with free boosted guardian skills on the side). So if there's ever a Living Artifact build, good shot this is the place to look at even if it doesn't help you get there (and the best way to get there is mostly through samurai abusing the charge amrita gauge on guardian skill hit + Guhin's multi-hit beauty).
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>install that nude female body mod from nexus just so I can see nudes on a select few female npcs if I encounter them
>come across Blood-Spurting Ogin in NG+ and her breasts are just straight up clipping out of her top
kek
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>>559051306
I kind of want to do a Rikimaru playthrough. 1kat only, only ninjutsus he would have access to, stealth kills as much as possible.
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Do you guys think they will reuse the Ethereal Graces in the DLC or change some effects/add new ones in?
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>>559052641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOXg970_W3Y
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>>559051306
>>559052641
Didn't mean to quote there, sorry.
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>>559052864
im still upset we never got rotr dlc i wanted something silly like going west to america with ryoma and being a cowboy samurai
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how does the Abyss work in 2? is it perma death or is it just random dungeons?
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>>559055637
Underworld are 108 set dungeon floors and bosses, depths are after that. Depths have the first 5 floors change daily, the next 25 floors are random every time you go in. After floor 10 your boss fights are two bosses one after the other, after floor 20 its three bosses in a row. In the underworld you can get the orange graces to drop, and some Grace's can only drop on certain numbered floors.
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Hide is female because I say so.
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>>559052760
New colors are exciting
As long as we don't have retarded shit like "better medicine" I don't care what they do
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>summon remnant with axe for amrita before boss
>paralyzes me with 1 shuriken
>walks over to me
>charges up lumber chop
>kills me in 1 hit
is this real life
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>>559059869
He's a shiftling, he can be whatever you want him to be
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>>559061121
Better think twice next time you wanna mess with an axe chad.
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am I crazy for thinking that the autopickup is the best new gameplay addition in 3
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>>559061691
That and auto sell/offer/dismantle.
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>literally 0 current players
it's fucking over
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>want to look at new high res textures on armor
>disappear
like I know its troublesome if someone find the gooner outfits for females, but I want to appreciate your texture work you silly devs
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>can't delete saved character creation codes
But why.
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>>559065464
Where do you even see steam players currently/over time for a game?
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>>559071740
game is still in beta, balance is waack pls undersatn
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>>559071938
steamdb and steamcharts
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I liked the verticality and layered layout of some places in Bakumatsu, but the crucible just takes that way too far
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>start new playthrough with dual swords after they fixed deflect timings
holy shit you guys have been playing on easy mode all this time
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>>559076057
yeah it's kinda crazy
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>>559075896
hot take spirit veins (how they are used in 3 at least) ruin level design
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Been farming shinsengumi 5 and I've realized how bullshit okita soji is. If you play perfectly and immediately confuse and deplete purple ki, he can still do attacks while actively being hit by the player at 0 ki (should stagger). This is what anons have been talking about with the retarded hyperarmor and "not playing by the rules" and wow, it's really blatant and I don't really see why they made it like this... The three demons don't do this, it's just him and maybe some other humans. What a load of shit.
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>>559076069
i was still enjoying deflect on dual swords pre-fix, but it's so much easier now, feels like i can deflect everything after small amounts of practice

did they fix deflection expert not doing anything as well? can we go all the way to 13 frames?
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>>559051036
that's pretty awesome actually
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>>559076143
him and axe fucker
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>>559076221
luckily it only takes me 3-4 seconds to kill him when he's winded BUT if he breaks out of it and kills me with the follow-up instantly then I have to redo the whole thing.
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>second playthrough
>cheat myself 9999 ninja and samurai skill points
>skip all side content except skill unlocks and save the rest for NG+
>rush main story shit
actually looking forward to NG+ this time cause there will be meaingful stuff to do, sort of
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>>559040660
I think if you look past the open world checklist crap, it's really fun.
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>>559078640
i kind of like it, it's relaxing and any time i want you can engage in fun combat. the #1 problem is there's not even close to enough opportunities to get excoriated by a twilight mission and there are like 5 boss scrolls instead of 40 like there should be
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RotR is pretty damn good despite its flaws, i loved it my first time through
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>got to fish fucker
>now understand why people hate him
What an unfun bossfight.
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that took awhile, mostly duds sinister end and bakumatsu, but I got it from the 3demons
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>>559079569
i despised him at first, but once i learned to deflect his shit and punish openings he's not bad
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>>559079569
him, horseman and bird are shit for the same reason
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>>559040660
It has ample content and production value unlike Nioh 3. You'll play it again and realize again why it failed. RotR failing led to painful austerity that's already apparent by Nioh 3.
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>>559080557
it's not about being able to beat him, it's just not fun
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>>559082537
>production value
it looks visually terrible though, outside of cutscenes
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>>559082695
Anon there are literally a handful of characters and cinematics in this entire game in comparison
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>>559082643
Yeah. Same with those other, similar bosses. They're just designed in a way that makes them annoying and tedious to fight.
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>>559082825
can you please rewrite this sentence into english
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>>559082968
Meds schizo
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>>559082968
Nioh 3 has far fewer characters and cinematics, and the quality of those are lower than RotR's.
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>>559037768
2katbros...
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>>559083092
nobody said anything about amount of characters
nobody said anything about amount of cinematics
i literally already said that the cinematics look great in rotr you fucking illiterate RETARD
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>>559082968
>>559083173
Retardbro...
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>>559083284
he replied to my post regurgitating my points in bad english like it was an epic own
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Even though this game is supposedly easier than 2, I have like three times more overall deaths in 3.
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>>559083173
Don't get mad at me, I'm nta. I just translated what he said into a more grammatically coherent sentence.
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>>559083459
I rarely died in 2, i took every encounter seriously and watched every step. In nioh 3 i mostly die cause i fall asleep pummeling with tonfas and bumrushing everything.
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90% of my Nioh 2 deaths were due to that this snake that I hate
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>>559076101
That's not a hot take the overall world design noticeably deteriorated as more spirit veins AKA shortcuts became available until Bakumatsu was basically streamlined Nioh missions loosely connected together as corridors
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>>559084182
El Filtro.
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>>559084083
I've been playing naked with tonfas and I'm nearly getting the "i didnt beat the game" feeling, I can press circle to dodge literally everything and it feels I have infinite iframes, backstab does a million damage, the stupid humans that tries to block just get broken regardless and yokai are ridiculous passive and slow to turn.
I only die when I get too distracted and blow up all my ki mashing triangle square
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>>559025819
I might have to stop using axe, it's making the game too easy for me.
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level 37 samurai who looks like a level 17 ninja
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Almost finished with NG+ now and my thoughts are settling after playing the game for quite a bit
Nioh 1 with all DLC = 8.5-9/10
Nioh 2 with all DLC = 9.5-10/10
Nioh 3 with no DLC = 7.5-8/10
So I really hope the DLC doesn't pull any punches. I still like the game, it's very fun and there's lots of cool new stuff, but compared to the other games post DLC it's not as good.
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>>559088237
That seems to be the emerging consensus. Nioh 3 isn't necessarily bad but it's aggressively disappointing.
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>>559088670
I wasn't that disappointed, not every game can be Nioh 2 tier.
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I LOVE PARTICLE EFFECT ABUSE
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>>559087874
He looks so young to be a shogun...
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>>559022732
And don't forget:
>you can fly up the side of the house to get up on the balcony and onto the tree roots
>but you cannot fly from the blacksmith's balcony to the roots that aren't even far away
Need a different Spritit for that :^)
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>>559026521
Does the nvidia driver preset adjust it dynamically? Because no amount of sliders is going to make it look good everywhere, the game has utterly FUCKED eye adaptation with shadows and lights
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>>559051036
>the charge amrita gauge on guardian skill hit
Which one is this exactly?
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>>559076191
Yeah I'm planning on going that way by pleaidas and tons amrita absorption but I just figured out, thankfully before spending money, the weapons will be bastards (want crucible Spirit force (Amrita)). So before I head back into to Kunimatsu's Grocery Store, I'm contemplating putting the shine onto another build.
>B1: Kuzuryu Redemption
Sam build with Sincere Buddha using it as the splash, 30 Poison resist + Onmoraki is the only way to recognize this piece of shit.
>B2: Der Mench ist Bose
Lilac + Daikoukuten

>>559093737
It's Spirit Ascension, from my understanding it's a flat amount per GS hit so multi-hit ones go really well. Murakumo for a ninja one is also not half bad even if a bit pricy/too slow to brute counter (tragically).
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>>559091915
He's complaining about the blurry picture, which you can fix somewhat with more res and sharpening and changing DLSS presets, contrast issues are a different thing, and yeah it's a bit fucked, the biggest issue is the crushed blacks, in SDR the best thing I've found is increasing the brightness a bit to around 55-60, but that'll reduce the overall contrast a bit.

in HDR mode you can tweak more settings there, and I found something that works for my strobed Oled and it fixes the crushed blacks without killing the contrast so that's the best way I found to fix it. There's renoDX's mod too which should be even better but I can't use it.
Honestly on a good hdr tv with the draw distance mod and dlss 4.5 it looks pretty good, works on my machine. Someone still need mod the game to reduce the anti soul gas a little bit, even Nioh 2 needed it and did get a mod for this.
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I remember I could move with a controller while aiming a bow with my mouse and they worked together perfectly in Nioh 2.
In 3 it doesn't work.
Literally unplayable.
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>>559094589
>Spirit Ascension
O sick, I totally forgot about that. Thanks!
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Why the FUCK can't the Living Weapon transformation be rebind when using a controller? I keep fucking clicking the sticks in hectic situations by accident
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>>559095118
That's weird it works for me. I even mapped the mouse to the controller's gyro, still works.
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Be honest, am I missing out for not reading any item descriptions or mission loading screens and stuff like that? In Souls games I know item descriptions by heart, but in Nioh I just can't get myself to care. And don't get me wrong, I'm loving the game, it's not like I'm yearning for more lore or whatever, just wondering if I'm missing out on great writing by not giving it a chance.
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>>559095443
You can't, there's an hidden option so check again. I was triggering living weapon by mistake instead lol, so I reverted to the sticks
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>>559095470
I mean I can aim with the mouse while moving around with the stick. But if I use left trigger for taking aim, I cannot shoot with mouse buttons. And if I take aim with M2, I cannot move with the controller.
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>>559095443
You should probably learn to not death grip your controller anyway, your sticks will thank you.
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>>559095592
*can
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>>559084182
I assume this was severely nerfed over the years because I'm on my first playthrough and this was probably the only boss I beat on my first try except for like repeating bosses in side missions.
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>>559095443
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why does ki fluxing make you turn your back to the enemy
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>>559095686
Xbox should make sturdier controllers. Bring back the Duke!
Now that I think about it, when I play flight sims my hand does get sore after some time. Maybe I'm gripping too hard without even realizing
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>kites you for a little bit with some horse archery
imagine if he did only that like lubu
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>>559095893
Probably, happened to me when I switched from the 8bitdo Pro 2 to the Ultimate 2, actually, so I think something about Xbox ergonomics just makes it easier to grip too hard. So I taught myself to not do it to not ruin the sticks. The first game I used it on was Ninja Gaiden 4, so the game being intense probably doesn't help getting used to being more gentle.
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>>559095918
My unga bunga Sword of Meditation gimmick absolutely _suffers_ with enemies that keep moving in and out.
Just let me hit you!
I killed the bitch brother in five hits
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>Bloodedge demon spawned
>scours the ages to try and find it
>still only gets 1 user grave despite it all
At least can confirm it's not Bakamatsu as it was the only player revenant I could kill despite traveling into three ages of Japan and its four corners. Unless... Don't tell me people are performing the bloodedge rituals in Antiquity, a quest only location.
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I FUCKING FOUND IT, FINALLY, FINALLY THE GRAVES SPAWNED AND I COULD GET HERE! Is there a way to fight the bloodedge demon offline?
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>>559097768
Pretty silly if there isn't since the only valuable thing you get from that boss is the Soul Core, the drops are usually absolute trash and low level
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>>559099090
Drops I think is decently find, it's like a kappa but scaled for NG+ (in that it drops divines), I have gotten a yasakani from one before. Got no clue on why I consistently get a random batch of level 11 weapons (challenge runners?). I also just wanted to fight one for the sake of stress testing my Swallowtail build (was fine, not too squishy and the onmyo was able to burst him down a bit after the half-way mark). Do hope they maybe place one on a battle scroll so that it's not a goose egg chase that you have to exit missions for.

Also for funny things on those more in-tuned with ki-DMG. Sam Murakumo could be something to look at, he extends your buffs when you final blow. If you can break shins consistently enough than this can be a way to have infinite uptime on buffs, also consider you could do it on Ninja if easier before style shifting to Sam to keep Ninja buffs active.
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I feel like I should wait for a balance patch before I do another playthrough of this game. Every new weapon I try I just find the most overpowered move and start spamming it.
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>>559101489
Odd choice to put final blow buffs on the samurai guardian spirit when the grapple damage skills are on ninja. I don't remember if those final blows on knocked down human bosses count as a grapple but if it does you could abuse constant knockdown parries and spear leg sweeps to make the most out of that.
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>just unlocked Tornado Edge

Uhhh why does it do like double the damage of any other axe skill?
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>>559104419
Because axe wasn't braindead enough already
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>>559083459
Kunimatsu is harder than anything in 2
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>>559095556
>am I missing out
only if you care about Japanese history
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>1 piece of okita's set
>2 pieces of peerless combatant set
>3 pieces of eccentric's set
>maeda clan
>yagyo soul core
what else for "nothing but pokes" spear build?
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>>559088237
>Game with no dlc isn't as good with game with dlc
what no way
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>>559022732
Yeah the Interrim from 2 felt a lot more lively and fleshed out, even if most NPCs disappeared from there by the end as well.
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>>559095556
Not at all. If you care about the lore you're good just reading the yokai illustrations and character dictionary. Item descriptions are not important at all, especially weapon/armor ones are a waste of time.
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>thread on life support
>only halfway through NG+
oof...
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>>559118101
I'm only halfway through NG lol
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spears gods how do you use this thing? Triple Threat looks fucking silly
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>>559118101
Its a single player game and many people in the thread are at the end game farming to fill in the corners of their builds, just the cycle. Once the first DLC comes out the thread will come back for a month or two while everyone works through it, update builds, and farms.
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>>559104419
it's a new skill
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>>559118101
not a live service
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>>559102470
you control the buttons you press
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>>559130943
This meme makes me so mad
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its too easy, let me atleast fight duos again.
fuckin nepo baby lack of challenges
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>>559118101
They failed to deliver. I'm already finished NG+. There's nothing to do now but help other people in expeditions. Unless they release twilight missions and an underworld, Nioh 3 will go down as the least replayable Nioh. The open field was a mistake.
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>>559141679
ehh have hope, they're probably just down in the dumps cause RoTR didnt sell the gang busters the whole bakumatsu fanbase pretended to like (who were mostly otome fans for the ikemen)
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>>559118101
I got a week or two at least to go considering current build autism. And then return to Sparking Zero, partially hungering to return and also for mourning.
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It just gets worse and worse.

>>559141679
>The open field was a mistake.
I think the open field was conceptually a fine idea. The problem is the game only has like five structured missions, and one of them is just the caves from Nioh 1.
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>>559143483
Welcome to attack bonus (stat), it's a healthy bonus to things when the stat's 99 (and I'd argue probably beats your crucible weapon martial arts dmg if you have other sources of it). Also 2% life steal looks questionable, experience is mainly on faster weapons but even on a build wanting to go for big healing, amrita absorb has done so much more even if delayed (unless the idea was fast procs on the (on Life Recovery) effects, then fair enough).
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>>559141679
>doom posting about a nioh game before the DLCs
every release this happens lol
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AHH FUCK why do I always get stuck tinkering meaningless shit on my gear instead of just progressing through the game
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>>559118101
I've got a bunch of ideas for builds themed around respective spirit guardians. Nothing optimal that requires grinding but it will encourage me to use different weapons, elements and ninja weapons with other skills than what I am used to so I'll probably have reason to play the game for a while. I got 160+hours playing just spear, 1kat and splitstaff, there's a bunch of weapons to learn and experiment with
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>>559144202
Actually, the axe's attack was already higher than the odachi's before the attack bonus magic. That was the point of the post, so that's a whoops on my part

As an aside, the attack bonus magic seems to be bugged: either it doesn't work at all or actually reduces the attack of all my weapons while I have the axe equipped. The displayed attack on my stats screen is lower for both my weapons than their displayed attack on the equipment screen. When I unequip the axe the stat screen attack comes up to match the equipment screen attack.
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>>559148309
>comes up to match the equipment screen attack.
on my secondary weapon*.

And it bears mentioning that the displayed attack on the equipment screen doesn't change at all when I add or remove attack bones magic. So, yeah. Buddy as shit.
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>>559144202
Oh, also, yeah, I'm convinced life drain melee doesn't work at all. They're only there because the available alternatives seem just as useless/ it'll already be there when TN fixes it.
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>stack debuff duration
>elemental debuffs disappear when Confusion ends regardless of their remaining duration
>Confusion stacking is borderline impossible
fuck this gay earth
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>>559012329
Yes. Too bad it doesnt make her shut the fuck up. I swear she always begins a lengthy, deep lore drop right in the middle of the most hectic fights.
>>559029458
Yes. Killing those 3 big dudes with the one rifleman and cannonboi under the Biwo Bokuboku is a really sweet loot spot. Also fun practice against 3 different human weapons.
>>559037768
rekt
>>559046105
I was a massive Kusarigama fan in 2. Really fell in love with the entire moveset. It was the first Ninja weapon I chose in 3. I miss my 3 stances and having actual choices in active skills. Why is Deadly Mark on "quick then heavy"? It is a gap closer. I shouldnt need to waste time and ki on a move that will miss. It also shares the slot with Tangle Strike and Retreating Strike - 2 moves that I liked to use after Deadly Mark.
>>559049917
A note to add to your fantastic write up. Fire Calamity will chew through the Spirit Force bar with the AoE DoT it leaves behind. I swapped it for Fire Shuriken. It does great damage with the buff, regens fast, and causes Burn quickly for Confusion purposes.
>>559095918
I would genuinely love a Lubu insert as a 1v1 mission in 3. Like how they did with Gozuki.
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Why is there no fucking option to cancel out of character creation if you accidentally misclick "New Game" instead of "Continue"?
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>>559149521
There's many similarly retarded things in the game. Like not being able to see how much soul fragments you have unless you go to the soul core view. Also no way to dismiss summoned acolytes, wtf?
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>>559149521
>>559149667
You also can't name saves, so if you have two characters with a similar amount of playtime you have to just fucking guess which is which.
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>>559149375
Just use the lilac set bonus and break the game.
The increase debuff duration actually means resetting debuff duration on ANY melee attack, even a quick light hit on low stance works.
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>>559149903
Deflecting an enemy attack refreshes the durations too, it's silly as hell
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>>559149903
They're gonna neef the fuck out of it. I put a set together with it but I don't want to get attached because God knows they're gonna kill it.
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>>559149521
>>559149667
>>559149885
Japanese devs and awful UX design, name a more iconic duo
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>>559149903
Is THAT what it does??? I thought it just made them last longer. Does this apply to elemental debuffs as well? Or just stuff like Sloth, Increased Damage Taken, etc?
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>>559151595
All debuffs. If there's a red icon around the enemy's health bar, it can extend it.
It's incredibly broken with calamity ninjutsu arts and onmyo, since you can easily stack all 4 elements and keep them near permanently on the enemy. The only issue is when bosses go into the yokai realm since that removes all debuffs from them.
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>>559151865
>>559151595
And elemental debuffs require way more effort after the first time, they get some sort of resistance to it
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>>559151865
That is so dumb. In the best way. I agree with >>559150050 it is gunna get nerfed for sure.

It reminds me of my Nioh 2 Ninjutsu build. I had Sloth, Defense Down, and Blind on Ninjutsu hit and would use the Caltrop Bombs and Hell feathers with the recharging Ninjutsu. All those debuffs were basically permanent because of how easy Caltrop Bombs were to hit. It was pretty fun. Lilac could be as fun too, I assume. Would be fun to mix Onmyo and Ninjutsu and swap to Sam. Seems like a good way to make use of both entire kits.
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>>559152604
and the unarmed damage buff i believe
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why wont red graves spawn consistently in nioh 3
I just want to find the bloodedgee demon
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>>559148857
My experience (crucible affix, not purple), it does work and will heal you but our damage is too low for it to heal meaningful (2% of 1k damage is 20 health, can get more from amrita absorption).

>>559149420
My plan is to try a shrapnel bomb because I like booms.

>>559151865
Every debuff. Sloth, confusion, elementals, life leech, weakness, etc. all work.
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>>559152969
That is insane. After reading this thread I now understand how folks are nuking stuff in co-op.
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>>559154581
that is not hiddy
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>>559152974
I have the same problem. I just started remembering NPC graves near shrines to check.
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>>559160324
That, my dear Bilbo, is the Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug in Full IMAX 3D with Dolby Surround sound
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>>559160324
Why did you give him piss eyes
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>>559156296
ok fine, this is
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>>559154581
I've posted her before, but why not.
Or did you mean Takechiyo?
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I'm having fun in NG+ but the changes are way too spread out for it to be worth exploring everything again
Even the new lesser crucibles/bases are annoying to play because you gotta beat the normal one before you can play the NG+ version
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>>559164848
You already know the NG crucibles, you could just run through them quickly. Most of them aren't very long if you know the routes.
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>2dlcs
so basically difficulties are gonna be path of the demon and then path of the nioh duuuuuuuuuuh
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>>559164783
takechi-what? Were not in korea you zipperhead
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I also made a brown Hiddy with a moko, I'd completely forgotten about that character.
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>>559166764
THE BLEATINGS OF A SHE-GOAT
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>>559167517
How is that in any way reminiscent of Mercedes
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>>559168240
brown
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>>559168240
I swear fuckers on the internet will call absolutely any brown girl character either Casca or she-goat, no matter what she actually looks like
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>>559169098
all rook the same
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What weapon should I do a run with?
Any build or martial art to go with it?
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>>559170252
if I get 0: bare fists
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>>559170252
Switchglaive/splitstaff
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>>559170252
Do something retarded like a tanky ninja or an axe wizard
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Does mid game axe just suck in terms of damage? A friend is up to the end of Heian and his damage just seems awful. I'm not going to claim he's a god gamer but his mistakes aren't in DSP tier by any means. I'm kind of at a loss on what advice to give him since I know people say axe is a hidden sleeper.
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>>559172665
Tornado Edge, then Tornado Edge, and then a bit more Tornado Edge.
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sam2katbros, what do I do against fucking bees? I am too spoiled by the range of Spear and Axe
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>>559172873
fire shuriken
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>>559172873
He cannot get one to drop to save his life.
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>>559172873
The bees are super fucking syndrome bugs in this game, they just never come down at all or they fly literally into your ass stinger first
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>>559149667
>no way to dismiss summoned acolytes
You can leave co-op any time though, right? I haven't engaged with that bit at all yet.
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>>559174671
Isn't that the Wo Long panda?
Wo Long 2 confirmed?
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>>559174671
I'd rather have a third DLC that takes an entire year of development time than a sequel to this dogshit
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>>559172873
press R2
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who had the better birdman form?
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I can't find the bloodedge demon. I'm only one the 2nd map and I killed every red summon I met along the way, but I don't see any map marking to fight the demon.
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>>559183830
I like Yoshitsune's form more but damn he was weak in this game.
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>>559183830
they're both kino fights but I prefer yoshitsune for those blue blades he has
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>>559174671
>>559175836
>>559182075
The Chinese are by far the single largest Team Ninja playerbase. We simply have no say in the matter.
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>>559185584
yeah but do they even WANT wo long 2? as much as they put out xanxia shit, it doesnt seem like the youth actually care too much about it and they only produce it to probably get easy loans
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Should I just beat the game and wait for NG+ to do everything else thats optional?
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>>559186023
the optional stuff does not give anything special in ng+ so i dont see a point in grinding through tankier side content enemies
i collected everything and did all the side content on my first go then ran through the story missions in ng+ and it felt fullfilling enough until the dlc
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>>559186023
Beat the game to unlock divine drops then stay in NG to clear up all the optional content.
There's no benefit to beating things in NG+ except for higher level drops so if you just want to cross things off the list, NG is better.
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I wonder if beziten grace is bugged, I mean the stack count
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>Cuck Gaki watches as this UGLY BASTARD fucks his fat ass Ninja Whore Wife
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They're finally starting to get into modding the human npcs huh?
https://www.nexusmods.com/nioh3/mods/99
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modders unfucked Toyo, hope we can get this outfit for player character
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>play expeditions with 2 friends up until the 2nd cruicible
>we want to do the 2nd cruicible
>the 3 of us can no longer connect with each other, game keeps saying connection failed
Did the latest patch break something? Holy fuck man. This shit never happened in nioh 2. Its not our internet connections because we can play other games just fine. Haven't seen anyone else talking about it. Is the game just broken?
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>>559154581
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>>559164974
nah, NG+ in Nioh 3 is dream of the demon in Nioh 2, they skipped dream of the strong cause it was a pointless victory march and the divines didn't have graces like they do in Nioh 3

first DLC should be the equivalent of dream of the wise and the last dlc should be dream of the nioh
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>>559172873
jump and heavy attack, bow or jump into ninja and fire off a quick fire shuriken or thundering calamity
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>>559193486
A very strategically positioned hand there
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>>559194064
yeah i like slutmogs, but i'm still waiting for something that covers up the naughty bits (and looks good) while still being sexy so it's easier to capture gameplay and not eat a ban here
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How do I easily apply a status ailment on myself in samurai mode? I've have seen 0 oil jars
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Finally hit cap. Based on these stats, do you think we could be friends?
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>>559197120
i'm probably too dumb to be your friend, i barely use magic, i don't use awakening, just pop it on when farming scion of the gods for upgrades, i'd be better off going 99 skill instead of magic probably
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>>559195048
My brother from another mother, I have the exact same qualms about nude mods. Looks fucking ridiculous in gameplay even if I do want to see tits.
I hope we get the wide hip player model from Nioh 2 soon, can't live with this fridge Tachibitch
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>>559197489
i'm relatively happy with the current nude mode proportions, just wish there was better pube options, and that the areolas were a shade lighter, but i don't wanna hazzle the mod author about my personal preferences, what i want more than anything is better outfits, the modders are starting to cook though, hope they keep it up
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>>559197423
What's your health like at 18 constitution?
For me its 3.9k sam, 3.6k nin
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>>559197120
>>559197423
how are you guys max level? I'm at the end of ng+ and I'm only 30 levels higher than I was at the end of NG
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>>559198393
I'm over level 200 and I haven't really done much of NG+, just been visiting
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>>559198393
I was close to 200 at the end of NG+ and then I began using the first two boss rushes at the start of the mission "a sinister end" to both farm and test gear (and collect soul cores for the upgrade mat).
I didn't dive deep into grace autism since I didn't want any of the bonuses past 3-piece. Then I farmed my weapon of choice for the 4 slots (+ 1 bow) and got them to +15, remodeled.
This put me at 240, and over the last couple days I did a few more runs of various high level missions and some co-op, testing out and refining my build. I also mastered fighting humans through the shinsengumi-5 mission which gives about 8mil amrita per run. Turns out their ki is breakable if you apply pressure the right way by using things like ninjutsu and guardian spirit skills to interrupt regeneration.
I'm baffled by what I've seen joining expeditions, the level of play is so awful that it's scarier than the yokai.
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Can you get rid of the enemies/items appearing on the minimap?
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>>559197892
2.7k life on sam, on nin i dont know and don't care, feels plenty though, but 2kat mystic art reduces damage by a decent amount when you string together a lot of attacks

>>559198393
i farmed scion of the gods on level sync for ages getting full 170 gear, also sinister end on level sync, also expeditions gives a ton of xp
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>>559170252
>1kat sam
>1kat ninja
Has a lot of tools and just sort of works while being flashy and fun.
or
what I like
>Big Axe sam
>small two axes ninja
They compliment one another very well - being total opposites. Slow and relatively short range Axe. Fast and essentially a ranged weapon with fast melee combos Hatchets.
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>>559200807
Does level sync make your level go down? or the enemy level go up??? I haven't seen a single piece of 170 gear and no yasakanis except the two I got from fishman.
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>>559172665
Not really. Mid stance is good. Spinning slide into Lumber Chop or Rumbling Earth. I prefer Rumbling Earth for the Ki damage, but Lumber Chop is effective too. The heavy - light elemental follow ups are great for getting confusion going, and do good enough damage to just outright kill normal mobs. The basic moves have good range and decent speed too, compared to Low and High. The parries that are not Spinning Slide or Soul Devourer kinda suck but whatever. I use all 3 stances equally, desu.
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>>559201501
It scales you to the enemies I believe.

Has anyone had a use for the Hellish Soul Gem you an buy from Hisahide?
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>>559201501
i think level sync scales you down, but you get better loot

having farmed full 170, i can say it feels a bit random. it's definitely tie to equipment slot, so when you get your first 170 weapon, you'll see a lot more 170 weapons, same with ranged wep, head, chest, gloves, feet, accessory etc. you gotta get that first lucky 170 first, then they'll be more common

there doesn't seem to be a way to force it, increasing +level or ilvl overall doesn't seem to matter much either, just rng, i feel scion of the gods has better overall ivll drops than that one place in sinister end
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how do I unlock the warrior's path?
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>>559203331
Search within you for the key
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If anyone wants to post above board in a way TN will listen, if Lilac must be fixed, here's how you do it.

Make it not extend elemental debuffs (includes Confusion). The onmyo debuffs have harsh diminishing returns on re-application and for yokai, dark realm cures them of debuffs meanwhile you need 2 for to apply a debuff on a boss (and with the pattern of gauntlet marathons vs 1v1s, you will not have enough for multiple bosses). It's possible to buff accumulation and with ninja, easier to repeatedly apply elemental debuffs (Thunderous Calamity will one-proc the 2nd time with the 24% accumulation skill) which nullifies the concern over repeated use in a boss gauntlet. Alternatively you could make it where it just extends buffs (prot talisman/barrier/carnage/etc.) instead of debuffs and keep everything the same.
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I only use physical ninjutsu. Cicada Shell, Lightning Step, and Pheasant Leap. Having Pheasant Leap on R1+X is like fluxing into "air" stance instead of low stance. Cicada Shell sets up those big meaty back attack hits and Lightning Step lets you stick to enemies nonstop.
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>>559208960
>teleports
>physical ninjutsu
Try again.
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>>559209229
It's considered physical in the skill tree.
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>>559198393
You get comically rich Amrita payments for helping others in NG+ expeditions
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>>559208960
I wish I was based enough to do this but the elemental ninjus are just too strong
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>>559172873
You gotta aim Spinning Dragon but it works everytime
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>>559208357
Nerfing sets seems like a terrible thing to do right now, and it's functioning exactly as the set bonus description states so they might as well remove it from the game if they plan to change it.
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Are there any armor sets you need a smithing text to forge that don't drop in the generalized loot pool?
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>>559219334
Doesn't seem so. Once you get a piece even from a revenant they seem to be added to the loot pool.
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>>559219854
I'm asking cause I'm in NG+ and the spear guy out in the open field that teaches resounding lunge dropped his smithing text for his armor and I've never seen this shit drop yet, couldn't find it in the transmog menu either
Maybe I was just extremely unlucky or something, I have no idea
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How is odachi? I keep hearing it was nerfed from where it was in 2, but is it bad in 3 or is it a reasonable pick?
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>>559220386
I haven't gotten Takeda's armor yet and I'm in NG+. I'm pretty sure I also don't have some of the 4 Takeda kings armors either.
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>>559220770
It's the weakest weapon that was clearly either tuned by different people or for a different version of the game. Axe and Sword completely invalidate it and it has no use until sweeping balance changes are deployed.
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>>559220770
It's still a fuckhuge sword that is pretty safe to use and deals fat damage
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>>559221153
>>559221170
Hmm, yes, I see. It does the weakest fat damage.
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Just be glad your female Hiddys and Chiyos aren't Taimanins
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>>558984313
bwo dont you know jjk invented japanese folklore?
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>>559208357
>fix lilac
Literally why?
>durr gaem 2ez
No it isn't, fuck off.
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Any reason to put Sword Ki on high stance and the Shigurui move on mid stance?
I've always had Sword Ki on mid stance but I saw a good player have it on high stance instead.
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>>559230959
sword ki is very good but my high sam1kat slot is occupied with sword of meditation because it's fun
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Playing nioh 2 and in dream of the demon

I just went to tonfas from spear, changed to li clan and using red demon armour and spear + different helm for a toughness and a agility

Using a water imbued tonfa (yin-yang) for saturation

Does this sound okay or am i getting punked? Trying to grab grace of ben on other equip
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>>559233754
never used spear or tonfas so i can't say but it should be pretty easy to tell if it's good or not after you try it out? if you're clearing higher level missions all the time you won't run out of resources since they scale very well with level
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>>559233936
Yeah its okay so far, i'm just wondering if i will get raped later on or on transitioning to the next difficulty
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Nioh 3 is one of those rare games where you can feel like both a Tenchu ninja and a Naruto ninja. Team Ninja just needs to improve the feel of the former by introducing more stealth kill variety
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Hiruko might just be the hardest boss on NG+ for me right now.
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>join game
>host instantly rushes and dies
It's stupid and I chuckle every single time.
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>>559237045
once you see what he's doing past the particle effect spam he's very fair
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Kusanagi is such a dogshit boss.
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I'm pretty convinced now that you can't get a green effect on a crucible weapon if it's a weapon that's already a part of a set.
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>>559239351
true
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>>559239418
I have sarutobis tonfa with 23 wind imbued, hotei. just expedition the last crucible.
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>>559239418
So from my experience, bit too busy to begin testing (just recall seeing one before) as I am eying Kyo-oh's blade (nin1kat), you can get crucible weapon affixes on set weapons (think 10% crucible weapon drop rate) but it won't be counted as a crucible weapon (this I don't think can happen).

>>559239920
He's talking about set weapons being crucible weapons, think Shingen's Switchglaive or Kagetoki's hatchets.
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finally caught up to where I stopped playing before dlc3 came out
what am I in for lads
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>>559239974
If that's true they must be pretty rare. I just scrapped 23 crucible sohaya tsurugis and none of them had green effects. On the other hand out of all the other crucible weapons I have that have random graces, none of them lack a green effect.
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>fight kusanagi
>turns into a giant fire pillar and flies across the arena
>turns into a giant fire pillar and flies across the arena
>turns into a giant fire pillar and flies across the arena
>unseeable tidal wave that does 80% of my hp
>turns into a giant fire pillar and flies across the arena
>turns into a giant fire pillar and flies across the arena
>turns into a giant fire pillar and flies across the arena
Okay fuck this I'll try something else
>co-op four kings
>first spear fag
>blocking everything all three of us throw at him for 30 seconds
>start water kick
>blocks all the physical hits
>stops blocking and backpedals the water damage
>pokes me twice for 80%
>starts blocking everything again
>set controller down
>turn console off
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>>559241017
weak build
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>>559240863
I'll be performing testing on my end once I'm more open. It could be something that can't be (poor memory), very rare, or you're unlucky.
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>>559241017
>console
My condolences
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How does that Martial Art instead of Grapple work in action? Does the enemy just become ungrappable or what, the wording is so unclear
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>>559238524
LEEROYYYYYYYYY JENKINNNNNNS
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>>559246892
You mean like Izuna Drop or Dragon Fang? It's basically just another form of grapple that does more damage/raises your spirit gauge.
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>>559246892
It's insane they even did it this way. I don't remember it being an issue at all in Nioh 1 or 2. Same shit with putting interact on ki pulse for literally no reason.
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>>559247036
>>559247078
lmao what, I thought it would be something fancier than just altering your grapple move kek
Is TN full of retards?
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>>559221170
It is a big fuckoff sword that deals ok damage. Its main strength is the reach. I did NG and NG+ solely with Odachi. The damage and Bolting Boar got ripped apart, which is the primary complaint.

>>559238524
>join random coop mission
>Loading screen
>A Sinister End
>Host has 1 more arena fight left
>We run up all the GS shortcuts to the top
>Host touches the lava and instantly dies
>Loading screen
Happens at least once a session. Always funny.
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>>559246892
What happens is that when you try to martial art near a winded enemy, it'll prioritize grapple instead. So turning that off should allow you to go harder in winded-enemy punishments if better than going for a final blow.
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>>559247331
>I did NG and NG+ solely with Odachi.
No you didn't.
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>>559247331
>>559248046
because there is only one SKILL thats good for real damage
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>>559247906
It's still essentially just a grapple with a different animation though.
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>>559241204
>muh build autism
I'll try it this time but I don't look forward to it. Unless it's actually more difficult even with the best gear, but I highly doubt it, not when I'm seeing you mfs with the 69% damage reduction builds.
I miss action games..
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>>559248750
NG+ has never been hard even with a half way build
and a lot of op builds just exploit some mechanism like LMAO3cats
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>>559233754
isn't there dual element tonfas?
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>>559237045
Kunimatsu is the hardest on both, imo
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>>559250347
Yep, at least one fire and lightning one that I know of, I'm sure there are others
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>>559219334
I know for a fact Takeda Shingen 's sword, switch glaive, and armor don't drop until you farm the smithing texts and then craft them. Unfortunate because his armor is top 3 samurai armor.
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>>559251243
Is that the Warrior of the East set? Because I don't have the smithing text for the armour, but I've gotten it as drops.
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>>559248227
My understanding/intuition wasn't that it replaced the martial arts you had in the grapple slot, but made it where Celestial Retribution or Sword Ki and so on wouldn't be overwritten by Grapple (so your arts combo can last longer).
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>>559251619
>Is that the Warrior of the East set?
No, it's Tiger of Kai
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>>559252012
Ah right, okay
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>>559240405
The strongest Yuan Shu ever in fictional settings.
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>>559251619
this guy's stuff
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How come we can only get one of Himiko's armor sets? I want her antiquity set...
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>>559246892
After testing, what it does is disable the grapple prompt if you hit a winded enemy with a martial art. This means you won't accidentally grapple them later, but it also means you can't "burrito" combo them by smackingbthem with a few arts and then grappling them right before they recover.
No fun allowed, basically.
Like the rest of dogshit game.
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>>559252351
You can get Oreo's transformation.
Don't ask me how, though.
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>>559252351
I want her warring states set. the cloth on the head is badass. I like the Bakumatsu clothes too. I just want more fashion options for this game
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>>559253167
>smackingbthem with a few arts and then grappling them right before they recover
I've been doing that since the demo lol
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>>559253416
You can do it with light attacks and block attacks and shit, but light>heavy arts won't work and hold heavy arts will vacuum you in from a football field away so it's a pain in the ass to space. Fuck odachi, basically.
Best to just disable the grapple from the weapon menu and eat the loss.
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Does the Hosokawa Clan's "Increased Luck (killing an enemy)" apply the luck bonus to the one who got killed
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>>559253670
Grapple's usually also end any combos pretty decisively so you're better off going all monkeybusiness instead, granted you know how to do it
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>>559254289
No
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>>559255130
Well that's too bad, makes it useless against bosses
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>>559255239
For a game about loot piñatas, it sure can be stingy sometimes
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>>559248046
What other weapon did I use?
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Is Dragon Fang, the sword finisher move considered a thrust?
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>>559256661
You'd think so, the animation is definitely that of a thrust, but you never really know
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>>559252202
>decide to try and farm him for the set
>have to run through the camp and fight Blahblahgata Masablahblah on his back, then go all the way through the crucible just for one attempt
Bring back the fucking dojos from RotR.
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Am I just fucking blind, or is there no option to put stuff directly from your inventory into storage?
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>>559252142
Wo Long crossover with Yuan Shu bossfight when? I need to see Nioh anons truly seethe.
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>>559258543
return to title screen if he doesn't drop what you want
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>>559259940
Doesn't that drop me out of the battle scroll?
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>>559246892
it doesn't do what i wanted, which is let me water sword people instead of grappling them
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>>559259217
i didn't see it either
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>>559262502
After experimenting a bit, I figured out that you need to be in the shrine menu, THEN open the other menu and access your items from there. It's on X/square.
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>>559262793
that's fucking retarded
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>>559253167
yea, it's bad. i just manually disable grapple on some weapons in the list and use some weapons that have a different command grapple (cestus strong -> light, etc.)
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I wonder if a Hayabusa will appear in one of the DLCs to give us some of the ninjitsu abilities we got in Nioh 2.
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>>559262440
What the setting actually does is it prioritizes MAs when used during a combo. In order to use Water Sword instead of a grapple, turn the setting on and then use it right after one high stance quick attack and it'll work.
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>>559265327
good idea
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When do you guys stop your progression and move on?

I beat NG+, built my final Ninja gear set, and got everything to +5.

Anything else really to do in this game?
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>>559266072
You could start a completely new build or character and do it all again?
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>>559266072
welcome to waiting for abyss
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>>559266072
Get yasakani for both styles, beat ng+, then fuck around for a couple of hours testing bulids.
I can't bring myself to grind knowing that dlcs will have ethereal quality with new set bonuses.
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>>559266072
There's never anything to do in Nioh NG+, you just grind gear for no reason or stop playing.
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>>559266072
when i get bored
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>>559266072
i got familiar with every weapon, and tested a bunch of useless shit
it took me over 200 hr at least, but yea... i'm done now
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Game has this weird thing going on where I guess enemies slowly migrate from their positions if you just let the game idle for a while. I've had multiple instances of coming back to my pc at the death screen even when i afk'd beside a shrine that no enemy ever walked near. The crucible tengu in this example is behind a locked door and higher up in the level normally, but if I could post longer videos you could see it in the replay getting closer and closer somehow on the minimap over the course of an hour
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Alright fellas, been playing through NG with just 1kat and wanted to give ninja and hatchets a shot. How on EARTH do I build this? Should I just soul match the scaling so it matches kat? And then what armor should I run? Any decent builds floating around? There's a wealth of korean/japanese players playing 1kat so I can steal builds off youtube.
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>>559268379
Sam1kat and hatchet share intellect as a scaling stat, so I guess pump that until you get to a level where you have the weapons you want to use and can change the scaling on them? It's a bit of a waste doing that at earlier levels since new drops will outstrip your current ones in effectiveness and it's expensive as fuck to keep soul matching.
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>>559268263
I've seen this happen in one of the crucibles where at the beginning there's a path of white fire to your right that you have to kill a jailer oni to unlock as a shortcut. I afk'd at the shrine there went to eat and came back and the oni was right beside me at the shrine, I got to skip that whole beginning section of the level because of it
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>>559268996
>>559268263
They def have a weird thing going on with how they act alone or when being watched for too long. One dude just stared at me and backed off into a river and died.
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>>559268263
>>559269447
They know you're watching, you creep
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>>559265229
Hayabusa is guaranteed. Has been in every nioh game. The real question is the raven clan
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>farming Shingen for his set
>the fucking switchglaive smithing text just will not bloody drop
Doesn't he have it in his first crucible appearance or something?
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>>559272327
I farmed his texts in the yokai version but I heard it drops in human version as well
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>>559272740
Got it now. Bitch and thou shalt receive, I guess!
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>>559273064
>bitch and thou shalt receive
It works every time, sometimes I'll write a shitpost about a boss being bullshit as a ritual.
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Alright, now that Im done with my cestus character Im going to go on opposite extremes and do a light ninja (1kat most likely) and a tanky axe unga bunga style.
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Does the difficulty ramp up by the end of NG+ in 3, or is it still balanced like the previous games where you just melt everything even without a build through sheer stats? I'm up to just before the Great Tengu wearing random gear to get Luck + using random weapon types and everything is significantly easier than NG still.
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Does the demon of obsession sometimes just randomly kill you with no animation or effects for anyone else? I get "killed by an explosion", but none appears, I just randomly drop dead in the middle of an attack.
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Anyone use Streamflow on their ninja? Seems like it might be good for bossing.

>>559278834
No, never seen that.
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>>559278938
The decay rate is way too high for anything but boss rush scrolls really
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>>559278834
Sort of. He has a gimmick of loading attacks into the sky and then triggering them with a delay after his animation, you probably just got hit by the wind explosion from behind.
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>>559259217
It's a bit counterintuitive but you have to pray at a shrine, open your inventory and then send it to storage. In NG+ expeditions it becomes practically required so you don't quickly run out of inventory space. We need a much bigger inventory and storage space either way. 2000/4000 is simply not enough by NG+.
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>>559284249
why do you need 2k items lol
break that shit
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running around clearing crucibles is kinda relaxing
sts2 EA tomorrow tho
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>>559284249
Every recent TN game had the option to move everything from your inventory into the storehouse , I don't get why you have to move 2000 items individually if you want to clear up space while farming without taking an hour to sort through 6000 items after a farming session.
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>>559266072
i got 170 and +15 on all my gear except accessories on main char, then started a new playthrough with the same character and same weapon, i just love fighting in this game, and i guess i enjoy the mindless grind
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Out of curiosity I looked up what the dub sounded like and while I'm not really a dub hater when it comes to games at least but this might be one of the worst eng dubs I've ever heard.
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>>559266072
I'm only still playing at this point for coop expeditions. Once nobody becomes available to join and they will because there's actually no worthwhile missions and no post game loop, the remaining concurrent population will plummet just like RotR.
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This stuttering is so fucking annoying.

My GPU laughs at this game (4070 SUPER) but my CPU (i7-12700k) is basically permanently on 100% usage, even though it's above the recommended spec. I've updated drivers, i've tried disabling e-cores, i've fucked with pretty much every ingame setting, changed CPU prio... There has to be a way to fix this fucking game.
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>>559291389
There isn't. My 7800X3D isn't quite near 100% utilization but is still stuttering periodically. The Katana Engine, at least its implementation by Team Ninja, can't smoothly process everything in the open field and when shaders are recompiling.
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>>559291802
I have no stutters on the same cpu even with the draw distances boosted to 150%
but I use framegen for 120fps output.
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>>559292053
framegen should have 0 effect on CPU usage, which is the issue
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>>559291389
I have a 9800x3D, even on my other 1080p monitor locked to 60 using the lod fix and with effects disabled, there isn't anything you can do on the user end to make this as playable as Nioh 2
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>>559290515
yeah it's really bad
on the flip side code vein 2's is excellent
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>>559291389
it's really fucking weird that for me this is the only game my cpu doesn't stutter on (except ultra rarely) and i have a weak ass i9-11900k which chokes on every fucking thing else. i have a 4090 but usually i'm hardlocked by my cpu especially on ue5 games (which this isn't obviously)
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>>559291389
I got this thing where doing coop in either the first crucible or the mission where you fight yokai takeda it's 100% CPU usage and everything moves like they're underwater. But only in those 2 missions and only in coop. Every time.
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Stroke the scampus for good luck!
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>>559290515
Wo Long's dub still takes the prize for awful everything, it's so bad it felt like I was having an out of body experience listening to it
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>>559293619
Why is the kodama poking it in the eye
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>>559293623
I played Wo Long in English dub for the laughs. Unfortunately, it wasn't funny. It was fucking painful
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>>559293623
>>559294038
I felt like the Nioh 3 english dub was worse because you have the british twink accent on such husky characters.
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>>559294209
Nioh eng dub could be kino if they got some Japanese VAs to give us some proper engrish and distinctly japanese voices. I suppose there are only so many competent English-speaking ones you can find
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>>559291389
A useless open world will do that to a game's performance.
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>>559294748
it's not even that. you just need to shell out for one of the good VA studios (usually in the UK). get what you pay for
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the only good outfit in this game is your fundoshi.
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>>559294868
FFXIV got a bunch of stage actors, and it worked out surprisingly well for them.
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>>559291389
I tamed the game on my 5800x by nerfing LODs with nioh3fix by Lyall. It doesn't hit constant 100% usage anymore.
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>>559296304
I got nothing to lose so I guess I'll try it.
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>>559296446
For the record, the latest build that he released which modified how the model draw distance works is no longer as good as previous commit he had on codeberg, it barely helps now so I just compiled my own version with the older commit.
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The nioh 3 "fix" just breaks the game more. Don't bother.
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>>559297513
werksonmymachine(tm)
what does it break for you?
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>>559297660
Boss AI shits itself and the LOD can cause grey smoke walls to block progress.
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>>559298074
>Boss AI shits itself
Even more than it usually does? Damn.
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>>559298074
I don't experience any of that stuff using the fix so ymmv I guess
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>>559290515
>Nobody can figure out how to say "crucible" (it aint crooshabel)
>Everyone is fucking Br'ish.
>>559294209
>>559294748
Like these two anons said. Ghost of Tsushima did it it very well, IMO. Thick accents that match what the characters actually look like, rather than these adult hardened military veteran men sounding like skinny white Bri'ish college students.
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>>559298467
... what IS "crucible" pronounced like? I want to say croo-suh-bul, but I'm not a native speaker.
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Replaying Nioh 1 now that I got all achievements in 3 and yeah I fucking miss deflect.
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>>559294748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEkMYW8BmH4
I miss Hanzo's engrish
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So I have to fight that gay ass Souji and then another boss? Who thought that was a good idea?
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>>559303014
It seems like I can fight him alone at the Mibu Temple. Strange that I passed by there and didn’t see any way to enter the temple.
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Crucibles remind of Silent Hill otherworld shifts
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Jakotsu-Baba filtered me, I'm taking my ass back to Nioh 2.
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>>559303014
It is a nice challenge. You can kill off Souji in a side mission and he won't show up in the crucible.
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>>559303891
NTA but wow I didn't know he showed up in the crucible, I guess exploring everything first pays off.
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>>559303664
Nioh 2 is significantly more difficult than 3...
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>>559293619
And the hardware prices went up again.
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>>559304409
I wouldn't say significantly, more like slightly.
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>>559304845
This, Nioh 3 is way more new player friendly unlike 2 but not much easier than 2.
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>>559303014
>>559303339
if you do the "Peerless Katana" sidequest for the friendly gun samurai guy you get the key to Mibu Temple, if you fight Souji there he will not appear before Yoshinobu
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>>559303451
Except this time you're the rapist murder monster.
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>>559303014
its funny how poorly made it is out of nowhere you re in the dojo fighting Soji and then you re magically teleported to a place with water to fight the giant flying fish
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>>559298748
per dictionary online
/kroo͞′sə-bəl/
so kroosahbul or maybe kroosahbahl
But there is definitely not a "shhh" sound in there.
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>>559305789
>>559306194
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>>559284382
>xe has never seen the underworld treasure room
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not sure why i waited so long but after playing nioh 2 for ~80 hours i have to say this game is pretty good
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I just died to lava in the last stage of Death Veil
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>>559310426
Nce you're just like many of the hosts I've encountered.
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>>559308874
this isn't nioh 2
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>>559315403
it will be, when DLC1 is nothing but an nightrerign lite and the world map is chopped up again for rng mini stages and some times there is a GOOOOOOOOOLDEN temple with fatter loot
(but all loot is just temp buffs for the mode)
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>>559310426
Almost did that myself in the NG+ Mikatagahara crucible an hour ago. Flame Wheel knocked me off a cliff and right into the lava, and I just barely managed to get out of it with only a sliver of health remaining.
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>>559315403
not with that attitude
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>>559315736
yeah and they will increase the item box size too lol
complete non issue
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>>559290220
Cutie
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>>559325607
whore*
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>>559325607
>>559335991
cute whore

left one should be better right?
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>>559336582
yeah, only green imbues are worth it
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>>559336776
aight, i'll be on lookout for a wind imbued crucible wep then and compare those
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>>559337193
without the ability to reforge accessories element imbues are way worse
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>tired of only getting up to lvl 160 +4 gear
>go to do last crucible in Baku
>forgot to kill Okita beforehand
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Is Katana/Kusarigama ideal for a Ninja+Ninjutsu build? What Grace to use?
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>>559337759
i like the green glow my swords get with wind imbue
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>>559337863
i got full 170 on my main, started a second playthrough, but as soon as i hit the ilvl grind again on my second character i realized i couldn't go through that shit again, back on main now

getting the lucky 170 drops the first time is so fucking annoying and random
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>>559338187
we are the same person
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>>559338187
if you transmog to a sword with natural wind imbue it will still have the glow
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>>559338507
you sure? tried mogging to Regal Lion & Bone Eater dual swords which are wind imbued, but didn't get green glow

in any case it's a pretty ugly mog, i'll live without until i get a crucible wind imbued 170, gives me one last thing to grind for
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>>559290220
Have you or would ever share sliders/code?
Mostly I just want to know how you got her skin to look so mooth around her mouth and eyes.
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>>559340494
>Mostly I just want to know how you got her skin to look so mooth around her mouth and eyes.

go to visuals and advanced resolution settings and turn sharpness down form 1.0 to 0.2, it's way too high by default

i haven't shared code for blonde version, but she's based off of this red head with only minor changes
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I really hate how kappas always run for edges so when you kill them half the time your loot falls into the abyss...
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>>559309819
You have been arbitrarily gatekeeping yourself from one of the best action games ever made lmfao
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>>559342435
Cheers, thanks.
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>>559342435
can't believe people ship their games with fucking 1 on the sharpness slider
e33 had terrible forced sharpening too that there was a day 1 mod to remove
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>>559345912
yeah it's so weird that 1.0 is the default setting, everything looks like shit with it that high
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>>559338920
maybe it's only specific weapons?
this is with a random pair of bloodstained cleavers equipped
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>>559346489
what dual sword transmog is that?
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>>559342435
>>559345912
You don't even need sharpening with preset M it's slightly oversharpened inherently
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>>559347427
weathered bone and bleached twig for ninja
I went and looked at some other weapons and it is in fact only certain weapons, very strange
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>>559347851
typical team ninja ramen code
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>>559346489
>>559347851
funny they just patched it out of the taro tachi which had a blue glow
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>Lilac trivia
Deflects also extends debuff duration.
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>>559343976
Gravity boss is truely the hardest boss. It even takes your loot baka my head.
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>axe ki cost buff
>2kat water sword
Why is this so satisfying.
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All the options in this game are overwhelming my autism.
I can hold the combos for "a" weapon in my head at a time, and the rest are for button mashing after a burst counter.

Thank God for max bobba sliders.
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>>559352137
Max booba is too much, it makes them look deformed. Balance in all things.
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>>559352908
They are balanced. Left and right. Perfect harmony.
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What happened to this game population wtf?

I travel for a week, and then suddenly it's just dead.

Online play was so active a week or two ago, and now I'm waiting like 15 mins for a match.
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Got bored and haven't finished nioh3 but very close, gonna try clearing nioh2 in the meantime
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>>559354198
Dead as the npcs in the game
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>>559354198
It's a single player game and most people are wrapping up their time with it by now.
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>>559354198
The tourist left after beating the game once. They're all playing RE9 now.
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>>559354198
That's what happens when a game is so far too easy. I really enjoy most of what NH3 does except the lacking difficulty (and I guess the ninja stuff) so instead of spoiling my first playthrough with an unbalanced game with a third of the weapons ruined, I'm just waiting for more patches/the DLCs and replay the first 2 games again.
Also playing NG4's dlc
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>>559354902
Difficulty has nothing to do with it, it's been a month since the game released so the initial surge of people playing are simply finishing up. It's not a live service game, most people aren't planning to play Nioh every day for months straight. I've been playing since the demo and did about half of NG+ but it's simply time to take a break now and wait for the expansion.
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>>559355281
Elden Ring threads were active for months after its release. I think the people don't really care about the story or characters so it stifles discussion. The fashion sucks too.
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>>559355281
Without fully fleshed out grind content and build theorycrafting there isn't much to do for some. I can definitely see myself playing regularly for a while longer because matters of difficulty aside, I have a bunch of weapon combos to explore. Say what you want about samurai/ninja split, one silver lining is that it gave me 4 weapon movesets to work with
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>>559354198
I'm mostly doing some last minute farming, wanting Yokai Shingen to drop his switchglaive text (got the katana off the human though so maybe I return to him?) before I go turbo money farm to finalize build ideas.
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>>559356330
I got all three smithing texts(1kat, switchglaive, armour) off his human form.
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>>559355650
Yeah and ER sold a gorzillion copies, it's not really a good measuring stick for how long the average game will get active threads.
>>559355765
It's like this every Nioh launch, the more active threads will come back when the expansions release.
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>>559356487
I figured it was locked to his human form (got the kat text, armor's in the pool dropping thanks to a revenant, just wanting the switchglaive) but someone else here got it from the yokai form (>>559272740), will say the mission is acting as a good test run for my lilac build and it is fucking bullshit (complementary).
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>>559354569
This is the realeast answer. All my friends are "flavor of the month" gamers. It is very common. Play a game for 2-4 weeks, move on. Maybe come back for a DLC. It is very frustrating. I was still enjoying Remnant 2 when they all moved on to some dumb battle royale shooter. Same for Monster Hunter Wilds.

Some just wanna beat a game and have a good time doing it. They have moved on to something else. For my friends, it was Avowed for some reason.
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>>559363470
Playing a single player game for that long is not a "flavor of the month" gamer. That's just how games work, you can't play them forever. Nioh isn't live service.
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>>559366606
I can though? And many here can? Lots of weapons and playstyles I havent tried. Challenge runs like unarmored fist only.

It is flavor of the month when you beat a game meant to be played extensively and just ignore large amounts of content because the next big thing released. Pick the "YouTuber BEST BUILD YOU MUST USE" and run thru the game in 10-20 hours then complain it was too short. You clearly have zero experience with this type of person.
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If I wanted to play a "true ninja", what weapons/ninjutsus should I be going for? Invisible KUSOrigama and very few if any outright magical abilities, but what else?
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>>559369743
>Invisible
Fucksake autocorrect, I wrote "obviously" there.
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what is the best luck affix for gear? amrita absorb or amrita gauge?
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>>559372680
Generally speaking, the more "temporary" a buff is, the better it will be.
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do u think there will be a nioh 4
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>>559369743
Go for the Iga Jonin set and use mostly ninja tools like shrapnel bomb and fire shuriken
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Christ, this last zone.
>yo dawg we heard you like boss gauntlets so we put boss gauntlets in your boss gauntlet
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>>559354569
the tourists left 3 days in when they completed the first region
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>>559377527
If there is I hope it's Nioh 2 +2 and not Nioh 3 +1
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>>559377527
if this is like any of the other franchises that sold out to open world shit, you'll get a game that panders to the normalfag audience even harder
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>>559377527
If there is, I hope they go for a drastically different setting. Time hopping Japanese adventures have been played out at this point.
Hell, give me that Celtic setting they were talking about. Imagine fighting Cú Chulainn in the grip of a warp-spasm, or wars against the Fomorians.
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wolongbab here
turns out I was wrong and heavenly wasn't the last difficulty
what am I REALLY in for
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>>559377527
I hope not.
Nioh 3 feels like it's not sure what it wants to be and kind of mindlessly changing stuff. Ninja is not a good improvement considering it removes a number of weapons from Samurai, and the open field doesn't add much to the game.
I would rather have more Strangers of Paradise, Wo Longs, and RotRs that at least explore a different setting if Nioh 4 is continuing the direction of Nioh 3.
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I actually hate Nioh 3 so much.
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>>559384568
But you're still playing it?
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after finishing the base game, dlc first before ng, right?
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I just beat NG+ in Nioh 3 but I feel like I'm missing something...

There was lots of talk about how in NG+ there's new bosses and enemy placements and stuff, but other than the Enenra in the first crucible... is there anything else?

I didn't notice any major differences, and basically itwas the same faceroll grind except with inflated numbers.
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>>559381851
>ANOTHER rarity tier of equipment, coming up to a total of 8
this shit is egregious
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>>559385614
It's Nioh so I kind of have to, at least for a while.
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>>559386931
i assume you are talking about nioh 1 or 2 and the answer depends on if you want to do loot autism or not
if you want loot autism there is no reason to do anything other than rush to the last difficulty as soon as possible
if you dont care about loot autism then you can do dlc before ng+ but it will probably be much more difficult
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>>559352908
incorrect
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>>559355650
because elden ring is like 4 times the size and has absurd replayability retard
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>>559388476
there are a bunch of raiju and those big staff retards everywhere and a bunch more cannon snipers
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>>559391726
>4 times the size
I feel bad for fromdrones
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>>559354198
>too hard
>too small
>shit story
>no replayability (except build autism, which everyone except us hates)
>censorship
>buggy
Game is just shit honestly. It's Nioh but it's bad.
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>its an irrelevant timewasting gimmick boss episode
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Jesus christ. I just tried tonfas. Endless combos, insane ki damage, and the mobility of ninja. This truly is easy mode.
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>>559394635
They're just about the only thing I see people use in multiplayer.
It's gotta be something like tonfa > axe > onmyo nuke > sam2kat > rest, or so.
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Yeah I love it when bosses dont let you combo them for free!
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>too hard
opinion mocked and discarded.
Because Radahn's gay sex love adventure was so much more enjoyable in a stuttering bloated mess of a giant open world full of skills you don't use.
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>>559394754
I see a ton of 1kat too really
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>>559394802
I see 1kat when the nukes come out, I assume because of the set bonus. Not that light>heavy>heavy doesn't slap hard, of course.
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>>559394793
It's unironically way too fucking hard. The bisses anyway. Everything else is too easy. So it's the worst of both worlds.

I also thought Elden Ring was too hard and on the whole not as good as Dark Souls 3, so I'm not trying to stoke some some retarded ER vs. Nioh debate for the nth time. I'm also not even that anon if it needs to be said.
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>>559396338
The only way you're having any trouble on bosses is if you just refuse to use any onmyo or ninjutsu/any kind of elemental buff and no living weapon. But why would you do that..
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>>559397913
These threads are fucking schizophrenic when it comes to what's "allowed" to use. If you use strong options you're a shitter who's hard carried by your weapon type/onmyo, if you don't use it you're gimping yourself
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>>559398357
You didn't beat the game
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>>559399041
All 3 were incredible. Can't decide who's my favorite
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>>559399041
prefer final boss hiruko/kunimatsu
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>>558965183
I'm playing the first game.

Is it just me, or does the odachi kick the fuck out of the normal sword?
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does untouched projectiles work on hand cannons?
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>>559399916
Samefag here.

When I think about it, range weapons are pretty much always the best when it comes to soulslikes. It's just a question of whether you want to poke or smash.
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>>559399916
I remember people shitting on odachifags and calling odachi a noob crutch when they introduced it in the dlc.
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>>559398357
You honestly shouldn't give a shit, it's the devs' job to balance the game, not yours, you're not supposed to "control the button you press", that's the opposite of immersion. You DID beat the game.
soulfags are just begging for a style/rank system in their games but refuse to play action games, it is funny.

if these games offer you an option to get stronger then the difficulty need to account for these options, it's really that simple. I think everything is fair game hehre, except coop because bosses and levels aren't significantly harder enough in those cases, that should be considered a balance issue. That's the only thing I actively make sure to never use, including the npc revenants, but besides that just do everything you can, the onmyo stuff is fucking fun and it's worth using
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>>559399916
Man, really? I'm on the final stretch of Nioh 1 and I've never used the odachi.
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>>559403196
Odachi is ridiculously strong in 1 and 2
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>>559403196
>Length and speed of the spear but with a hell lot more sweeps (best type of attack)
>Slightly lower damage and ki damage compared to the Axe
It's really strong.
Nioh 3 cucks it quite badly though.
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>>559399041
How do I refight these after beating them in NG+? Is it those sands with the weird faces? Is there a scroll that I am too stupid to not notice? I would really like to come up with a personal "boss gauntlet" where I go back and fight every boss a few times to get to know their movesets better.

Unrelated question to anyone reading this.
Is Unarmored Damage still an affix? I havent seen one yet. I remember in 2 it was only on gloves and could be transferable to other pieces of gear.
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>>559407623
There is a scroll where you fight them one by one. i guess it is unlocked by killing them individually and beating final Hiruko?
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>>559407806
Great, thank you. I must just not have completed or noticed the scroll. I havent done as many scrolls in NG+, just been playing a shitload of co-op or messing around with the refight lesser crucible mechanics.
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So, I made it to thunder tits in the ice map, and I feel like I'm doing something wrong build-wise.
Every item has stats on it that are absolutely fucking puny, +3 water damage +1% mid attack? Oh boy I can life steal off of that and not even see my health move until I finish a whole combo! The only way I'm killing bosses is throwing myself at them until I just deflect everything.
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>>559411554
Builds don't really exist yet. The numbers and effects are pretty insignificant unless you're doing axe/sword/onmyo/ninjutsu cheese.
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>>559396338
retard
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>>559411554
You shouldn't be struggling at that point in the game, especially against that boss. You might be severely undergeared in terms of total attack and defense. You don't have to facetank every hit either, sometimes it's better to position yourself for an opening to get a few hits in before they retarget you with their next attack.
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>>559394635
The game is just easy. This is my first Nioh and I've demolishing every boss by spamming beyond infinite while transformed.
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>>559411554
Just click auto equipp with B agility.
The little bonuses dont matter in NG.
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>>559391726
What's with the impotent rage? No sex, lard ass?
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>>559411554
until you beat the game just equip highest item level
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>>559417070
And Elden Ring wasn't easy?
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>>559419251
it was way harder than nioh 3 lol
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when did I mention Elden Ring? i said this game was easy that's all. people told me this was ninja gaiden combined with dark souls i had hoped for some difficulty that is what those two series are known for. it feels more like Dynasty Warriors.
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>>559419549
nioh 1 and 2 are way harder
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Is it me or do mobs have as much hyper armor as bosses in nioh 3? It feels like you can't trade for shit here, if you get hit you get hitstun at any toughness level, if they get hit they keep going even if they're small fries.
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>>559399916
sword is low floor high ceiling. odachi is mid floor mid ceiling.
sword is typically considered one of the top weapons, while odachi is mid tier.
however a lot of people consider it a "sweet spot" weapon for efficacy and general enjoyment, so it feels stronger than it objectively is.
I know it does for me.
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>>559424628
a lot of the smaller mobs have horns and shit you can break to stun them, idk, never really had an issue
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>>559425047
that's totally unrelated. most mobs are extremely easy to ki break and kill, but if they start their string they'll finish it unless you kill them altogether, there's no hitstun when they are attacking
it's extremely jarring to have small mobs stalwarting through any and all attacks you send their way. I don't remember nioh 1 and 2 playing like that at all
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Dramatic Finish
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Finally, NG+ Heian Period
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzqLX_KVK0Q
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Am I retarded or do I have to necessarily beat the unenhanced version of a crucible or base in ng+ before accessing the enhanced battle? Why the fuck couldn't TN just make them all enhanced to start with?
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>>559427605
they should have been enhanced by default, i think everyone agrees on that. some of the completed ones will turn enhanced by themselves, but it's a bit sporadic
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>>559426598
The opening of Heian had a comfy aesthetic. Then it turns into red and blue shit everywhere.
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>>559397913
I didn't want to join Todo and backpedal while tossing shurikens and bombs every 30 seconds. So yeah, if you don't use the OP ninja bullshit and try to play the game like the first 2, it's unreasonably hard. I would say fucking impossible.
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>>559431074
>try to play the game like the first 2
You mean using onmyo/ninjutsu/yokai shift and abilities/living weapon?
You better not be implying that the first two Nioh were about raw weapon play and nothing else
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>>559377527
You know how Nioh 3 came about? After Nioh 2 TN explicitely said that there was not going to be a Nioh 3 because they were bored of the series, but since their whole post Nioh 2 lineup panned, they had to bring out a certain success out of brand recognition alone. So out came Nioh 3, obviously uninspired yet nonetheless a great financial success for TN.
Which is to say, Nioh 4 will depend on how bad the next few TN games sell.
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>>559432784
It was actually just because the younger staff was pushing for it.
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>>559431074
Nobody is talking about the actually broken shit like Todo, you don't even need it.
Samurai having infinite ki and deflects (which are safer than ninja dodges) are just as bullshit. On top of that the burst counters are easier than ever to hit which always give you a huge attack window for fucking free every so often. "unreasonably hard" bro come on I fucking wish that was true, that's easily better than what we actually got.
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>>559433280
Extremely based.
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I'm almost finished with NG and got a wep/build crisis
I hate how only Ninja mode gets the air dash so exploration is 80% ninja mode so I can't be assed constantly switching away from Samurai if I build it, that's half the fun out straight away and no ninja wep really makes me jump from excitement
>enjoy hatchets
>get bored
>swap to x
>enjoy it for a bit
>get bored
>repeat
Onmyo magic is cool but clunky to use, would've ben much better if they allow faster+moving while casting together.
Ninjutsu having 3 slots is shit
Someone help me get some build ideas..
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>>559435058
>Ninjutsu having 3 slots is shit
Agree, but then again Ninjutsu in Nioh 2 was extremely overpowered because there was basically no limits
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What am I doing wrong with the clay soldiers? Sometimes they die quickly, sometimes they take way too long.
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>>559433280
Lmao sure, that's why it's so mailed in.
They totally made a game that is largely palette swaps of recycled assets (not even recycle of all previous assets) because they're passionate about it, not because they don't have any decent idea and have to ration the recycling to last for at least 2 dlcs.
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>>559435497
They take more damage from behind, while they're attacking, and from elemental sources.
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>>559435497
Load up a Sword of Meditation from some distance away and let go when they hit you, usually always oneshots them
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>>559436075
I am far too stubborn to change up my weapon for one enemy type.
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>>559431883
>You better not be implying that the first two Nioh were about raw weapon play and nothing else
That's basically how I played them apart from self buffs like Barrier.

>>559433450
Tell me how I know you've never played odachi.
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>>559435658
They couldn't even utilize RotR's outfit layering despite being clearly forked from it
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>>559435058
>I hate how only Ninja mode gets the air dash so exploration is 80% ninja mode
I keep hearing this, but I've used air dash once in the whole game to reach a spot, and on getting there I realized that I had cheesed my way up and was supposed to get there from a different route.
>Onmyo magic is cool but clunky to use, would've ben much better if they allow faster+moving while casting together.
Onmyo is perfect with awakening alone, the issue is awakening is effectively required for onmyo combat use, yet it's a mastery. They actually made me choose between versatility and onmyo, the fucking cunts.
Actually a common trend with skills, many of them should have been in a tree rather than the lists.
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>>559436370
>That's basically how I played them
You must have stopped at ng, bosses become massive slogs if you don't use all systems, no confusion = shit damage
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>>559436370
Yeah they nerfed odachi way too hard, that's one of the many other ways they've destroyed the balance in this game, it still leans on the easier side. Use something else if you think that's what's causing your massive skill issue.
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>>559436509
Yeah, the platforming is clearly designed around the samurai's movement.
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I'm honestly wondering how in the name of jesus christ team ninja justifies to itself having weapons lacking the use of basic inputs while having unique ones
Or changing what stance a skill could be set to from an almost empty category to a chock-full one.
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>>559436737
I never used confusion, but both games did rip my ass apart the entire time until I could just outbuild the difficulty in the endgame.

>>559436836
It is and I won't, not completely. I try out other stuff, and can tell ut's all way stronger, but it's my favorite weapon and I can't just "use what's good". Otherwise I might as well only play nin1kat onmyo nuke/sam1kat severing blade.
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>>559437394
>both games did rip my ass apart
>i didn't use the tools available to me
I genuinely believe one of the main reasons why people love this series is that using all subsystems together makes you up to the challenge instead of immensely overpowered.
I can't agree with the idea that any of these games is too hard when it's from the mouth of someone who isn't willing to engage with the mechanics.
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so what's the big issue with odachi?
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>>559438328
No longer overpowered so shitters no longer can lean on their crutch.
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>>559438328
its no longer the best weapon therefore its hardmode and you didn't beat the game if you didn't use it exclusively
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>>559437867
"The game is too hard" is just my own internet shitpost shorthand. It has a more complicated problem, obviously.
You can probably unga most of the bosses down with 1kat or axe, you definitely can with tonfa and bombs, so my real problem is just that the game is imbalanced as fuck and my weapon ended up on the low end of it.
I know as well as everyone else that all the game besides is easy as shit. It only even tries to be challenging at all in the Sinister End gauntlets and the few big ambushes in a couple maps.
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>>559438328
only 2 good moves (ground sweep and soaring fowl) and theyre both low stance
very little hp and ki damage and very ki hungry on nearly all its attacks
bolting boar no longer hits yokai
a lot of skills stacked on the same binds (this one i think is more of an issue in general for most weapons)
its still viable like every other weapon in the game despite all this and you can complete everything up to the end of ng+ with it
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>>559440262
>(this one i think is more of an issue in general for most weapons)
weirdly, Nioh 3 seems to have gotten completely rid of the Nioh 2 input where you press Forward+A after a combo
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>>559440262
>and you can complete everything up to the end of ng+ with it
no you can't.
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>>559440491
(You) cant
everyone else can
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>>559440894
nah.
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>>559441021
its ok to be bad bro just try to have fun with the game
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>>559440262
funnily enough low stance odachi was my crutch for annoying human opponents, especially just the low stance strong attacks
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>>559440262
>you can complete everything up to the end of ng+ with it
You literally can't and you will never produce evidence if you, or anyone else, doing it.
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>>559441542
Sorry you're not good enough.
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>>559441542
if even my shitter ass was able to do it then anyone can
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Gotta say I preferred rotr
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>>559435497
they are only vulnerable while attacking when their bits glow
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>>559443445
>31mil with 1kat
case in point
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>>559443614
>ignores that its only half the damage of odachi
almost all of that is just severing spin spam farming those 3 vassals by the way but it doesnt really matter since someone could post a naked odachi killing hiruko and you would probably still find some way to say it doesnt count
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>>559443928
Just laugh at the fag and move on, don't engage with bad faith norwood 7 posters.
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>>559439649
>my real problem is just that the game is imbalanced as fuck and my weapon ended up on the low end of it
Lmao same. I still use it the most though.
Yeah the game is unbalanced and mailed in. If that's your real issue I won't fight you over it because I agree.
I don't think ninjutsu is unbalanced though, it's really perfect dodge and some specific weapon movesets that are the problem.
But mostly perfect dodge, especially if you spec the ninja skills for it: a free projectile and a cat for every peffect dodge? That's fucking retarded already. Ki refresh and ninjutsu recharge on top of that? Come on now.
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>>559440262
I don't understand why people love those two moves so much, they might do a lof of damage but they're also clunky. The best odachi skill is now moonlit snow redux, since they ruined bolting boar.
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Deflect is the most busted thing in this game.
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is there a map of bloodedge spawns yet? this shit is getting annoying with how red graves just never want to spawn sometimes
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>>559445532
The more I think about it the more I realize just how bad of a mechanic it ended up being for nioh
Every game where there's a deflect it just boils down to standing in front of an enemy and pressing block to the beat
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>>559445532
>make a benzaiten + general of ruin set
>realize it really is just stand in front of the boss and wait
>drop it after like 20 minutes and just do a generic vaisravana build instead
they really should have put like a martial arts gauge cost on it or something so it didnt promote passive play so hard
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>>559445532
>>559446338
Nioh used to enable different answers to enemies that would varyingly interact and counteract them. An answer that neutralizes everything except very specific and very telegraphed counteracts profanely simplified the game to the point of tedium.
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>>559415841
Well, I finally beat her. Even when I completely forged a level 82 righteous set her stupid grapple could still hit me for almost 2/3rds of my life, and dodging it consistently was fucking impossible.

Also sorry grandpa. I am Takeda slut now.
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>>559445532
Can you actually pull it off consistently though?
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>>559448043
yes with the mystic art enabled
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>>559446338
>boils down to standing in front of an enemy and pressing block to the beat
A lot of the no hit runs I watched were exactly this.Sure it requires some mastery but it becomes boring to watch quite fast because the players punish every opening the same way.
At least you can still play the game without relying on it
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>>559440491
>>559441542
>>559248046
Why do you keep antagonizing people like this? Just to be an ass?
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Samurai's general melee play shits on Ninja, only good melee builds for Ninja I've seen stack a million buffs and do some Tonfa or Dual Swords cheese
Having my fav weapon types all be Ninja really was a fucking death sentence
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>>559445532
>Deflect is the most busted thing in this game
It's just a timely block. Are you really complaining about optional defensive play in a fucking RPG?
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Deflect then use Beyond Infinity. You've won the whole game.
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>>559435497
burst breaking always works for getting in some good damage
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>>559445532
100% agree
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>>559453542
My next character is gunna be Caustus and Talons only. I am very much looking forward to this. I havent touched the fist weapons in any of the games, and they look very fun.
I may also fuck around with unarmed as well on that one, since it fits the theme. I loved that unarmed parry in Nioh 2 where you grab the blade and shove it back into the guy's stomach. Brutal.
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I'm quite surprised so many of you don't use all weapons on one character.
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>>559447540
>make a benzaiten + general of ruin set
i fucking love this combo as a dual sword user, but you got the deflect follow up attack as well with that setup, makes it flow better, and you can go straight into god of wind follow-ups etc.

tbqh i've tried other weapons, but shit like winter wind and deflect attack always makes me go back to dual swords
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>>559454758
I do but there's not enough points to really use everything you want whenever you want.
I wish this system didn't exist at all, just give me all the moves from the get go this is so stupid.
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>>559454758
sucks having to reallocate points all the time
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>>559455190
>>559455125
Anons, you can make equipment sets and load them in at shrines to save point allocations/gear loadouts. If you pause at a shrine, you can press left stick to show up the equipment slots instead of going through shrine -> Preparations. Similar to how going into your inventory at the shrine's the way to get to storage (and equipment sets will pull out of storage).
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>>559452875
Lying on the internet is wrong and I won't stand for it.
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>>559455605
Bald.
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>>559455823
But enough about my girlfriend's privates.
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>>559455605
>t.roon
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we have odachi but where is nodachi...
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>>559455190
google fling nioh 3 trainer, give yourself 9000 samurai points, specc into all weapons
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Someone should train the devs to balance their game.
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How am I supposed to break out of winded status in Nioh 3? In 2 there were a lot of ways to cancel out, but with 3 removing their hyperarmor or removing them altogether I'm kinda stumped. Do I just have to git good and avoid getting winded?
Also is it me or are like 90% of gs attacks ass? They are so fucking slow to come out that 9 times out of 10 you're better off dodging reds than using the attack like the old brute counter.
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>>559459287
they are too japanese for that
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>>559459440
gs breaks winded early
one of the best gs skills guhin also has faster winded recovery
for ninja shami-cho
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>>559454758
I use most but it's a pain in the ass in 3 compared to 2, it must be acknowledged.
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>>559459440
>Do I just have to git good and avoid getting winded?
yes. Good on the devs to fix this from nioh 2.
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>>559459832
>gs breaks winded early
but they have a start delay and no hyper armor while the enemies have infinite, so you're going to get knocked right back into winded before even touching them.

>>559459920
>Good on the devs to fix this from nioh 2.
Well, opinions may vary on whether it was a good change or not, but fact is I have so many ingrained reflexes from 2 that now fuck me over in 3 jesus christ.
I must have shot more ninjutsu off the flux reflex with ninja weapons than I did on purpose
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>>559460187
if you use a gs with a short animation it doesnt really matter
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>>559459440
GS skills and there is a passive that lets you use burst/shift to cancel out of stuff
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I wanted to take a break from Nioh games and decided to finally play Code Vein (1) as a pallet cleanser and holy shit is it absolute dogwater. Funny that the only "soulslikes" I've liked have been Nioh games which I don't even really consider soulslikes...
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>>559461985
Yeah Code Vein is basically an idie game or something. Extremely rough around the edges. 2's sort of better in a lot of ways but still pretty bad.

I liked AI Limit as a low-budget Soulslike, and Lords of the Fallen as an almost legitimate contender, but yeah nothing tops Nioh.
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>>559461985
>both code veins
>both lords of the fallen
>ai limit
>wuchang
the surge was pretty decent atleast
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>>559462345
The Surge is literally the worst game you mentioned lmao
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>>559462478
you're wrong but thats okay
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>>559454758
I have some time on each one on my main.
Replaying the game from start to finish gives a different experience with each one, I feel. Instead of having to learn an entire moveset off the bat, I can take my time, get used to the basics, and slowly move up the skill tree as I begin to understand the basics. Then NG+ when I have everything and I can really master the weapon.

Both are valid though.
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>>559461985
Nioh isn't a soulslike. The only good soulslike so far has been Lies of P.
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>>559455107
Just picked up Dual Swords. I am slowly moving my way through and trying to get the basics of each weapon. I did Axe last, and now am giving Sam dual swords a go.

Any tips you or anyone else can offer? I have found I love SotC and Lightning Raiden(the lightning hold heavy idr the name). I tend to stay away from moves like Water Sword, I just dont find it engaging. Any tips on the various parries available? I love Punish the Proud purely for style points, but I dont really know which are "good" or ehat the differences are besides timing.
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>>559462345
>>559462478
The Surge 1 was dogshit
The Surge 2 was a blast. It fixed all the bullshit I hated about the first one. If you didnt like it, fair enough, but I had so much fun with the limbs mechanic and how fast it all felt. Plus the world was actually pretty unique as far as "souls-likes" go. Not just burning castles and swamps.
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>>559465443
this is what i use, usually go-to-combo when enemy is out of ki is double headed slice - winter wind mid stance - demon thrust - winter wind high stance - windstorm - winter wind - ultimate sotc - winter wind mid stance raijin (lightning)

before enemy is out of ki it's a lot of deflect counters into god of wind and sometimes demon thrust or double headed slice follow ups depending on enemy and size of attack window
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>>559465360
Its totally a soulslike
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>>559465735
Qrd on sword Vs dual swords?
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>>559436472
I just don't understand how they even managed to make the character creator worse. RotR had markedly fewer options than Nioh 2's CC... and then they went and made Nioh 3's one have even fewer than that.
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>>559465443
I can't say I'm an expert, but for me I love the just frame God of Wind extention as my bread and butter offense. Usually GoW>SotC>repeat since it kills ki.
If it's a turtling humanoid though I like to use mid heavy~Moon Shadow. The AI usually anticipates the MS though and drips the guard, which is fine 'cause that means the heavy lands and I can go back to GoW>SotC.
Punish the Proud is okay but I don't really like it. I tend to use Shrike and Heavenly Flow on humans and Earthly Flow on yokai if I feel the need to stop pressing. EF has guard frames if you're early or late, and the parry actually has a hitbox that can break yoki and jailer horns.
Water Sword is OP as shit but I don't like it either, so I tend to use Spinning Dragon instead when I can.
Twin Dragons>Earthrender is also pretty fun.
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>>559466942
Define what makes it a soulslike.
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https://strawpoll.com/QrgewMLlYyp
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>>559468016
Stamina system used for just about everything, dropping currency on death, and lots of dodging.
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>>559468863
So Helldivers 2 is a soulslike?
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>>559465735
Thank you so much! I appreciate your explaination and including your active skill list, that is very kind of you. I had dounle-headed slice written off, I will try it out more.
God of Wind is pretty great, and with Raijin, I can get Confusion very reliably.

I noticed you dont use SotC Pierce. I dropped it as well. Why do you not use it?
Do you make any use of Heavenly Flow?
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>>559467702
Thank you for the breakdown on tha parries.
GoW and SotC are pretty fantastic. I started using them quite a bit.
I will give Earthly Flow another try on the Yokai - thank you for the idea.
Twin Dragons -> Earthrender is pretty fuckin great and stylish too. I do a similar combo with Hatchets, so it fits right in.
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>>559465443
God of Wind is one of 2kat's most important moves, get all it's upgrades and get used to the timed follow-up attack. This move will melt ki. Against things with small openings, all you need is a quick attack, GoW3, then ideally end with a frost moon if you have time. When you see a yokai with low ki, try and start your GoW combo to deplete it's remaining ki and then seamlessly continue your combo by fluxing and Winter Wind'ing to another stance. You can pressure humans with GoW+WW combos as well. Moon Shadow is more of an accidental move most of the time. Twin Dragons+Earthrender, Raijn, SotC, Cherry Blossom, and Spinning Dragon are all good. Windstorm is often under-looked but it's very fast so I like to weave it into combos. Both Windstorm and Mortal Flow have large hitboxes and are basically guaranteed horn-breaks if you hit the enemy from the front. I like to use SotC as more of a combo ender but you can use it however you like. I'd recommend Earthly Flow as your mid stance parry simply because all 2kat loadouts already have two anti-human parries (The Shrike/Heavenly Flow) and Earthly Flow works on yokai. Demon Thrust is a good utility move and can quickly poke enemies to open them up and you can easily string it into combos since it has basically no recovery/startup. The guard frames can be useful as well. Random Slice is also good in 3 because it has strong tracking now. I like to use it to delete small annoying enemies like those screeching bat fucks, gaki, oni-bi, and so on. Water Sword is also very good but I've noticed that newfags tend to highly overrate it. It's strong stationary damage but plenty of things can break out of it so while it is good, it's not really as good as some people tend to think. If you can corner an enemy into a wall, then that's one situation where Water Sword shines.
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>>559469163
Obviously it has soulslike elements.
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If anything, Nioh is an Onimusha-like. And Onimusha was a proto-Soulslike.
So actually Nioh is a Soulslike.
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>>559465360
>>559465360
Nioh is a soulsgame man. Get over it.

A shitty one too, considering the population just dies 2 weeks after release, and no one plays it anymore.
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>>559470634
In terms of atmosphere, I'd agree that it reminds me of Onimusha.

But in terms of gameplay, it's definitely more Soulslike.
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>>559472163
>>559472163
>>559472163
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>hurr less people a game means it's le bad
yes and fortnite is the best game ever made.
Fucking retard.
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>>559472654
Do everyone a favor and kill yourself.
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>>559470290
Wow, thank you. Those are some fantastic in depth tips, and a lot of new information to try out. I am gunna have a lot of fun with 2kat this weekend. I will be referencing you a lot.
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>>559470634
Souls copied Onimusha though



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