Fireplace Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/post-207811>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>558938913
>>558993959>flat vyperbased
nigger
。。。
bountiful thread incoming
Come on guys this thread is clearly lost. Lets all just surrender. I don't want to waste 30 minutes stuck here with you LOSERS.My time matters to me
uh oh 3rd worlder melty
>>558994350Дa тoвapш
>>558993959VYPER DEADLOCK MY WIFE!!!!!!
can we just ban fucking russians please
>>558993887LoL is extremely streamlined. You're lucky if a champ can play more than a role without being considered a complete shitpick. Also everything is a stat check. 90% of the items are statsticks, upgrading abilities just give more stats. Very few creative champs outside of different flavors of skillshots and dashes.Pure slop.
>>558994505most LoL kits in the past decade are just some flavor of skillshot and dash, maybe AI can give them more creative ideas lol
>>558994532Graves is 18 because showing minors being killed is a big no no to the ESRB
how do i silver?
>>558994887Look to fight with ultCatch a wave and do some jung while your ult is downGo back to looking to fight
>>558994887unless you're smurfing you don't
my team has overfed victor again
>>558993959snussy
>>558994887>get ult>walk forward mashing buttons
>>558995082Why is Paige naked?
>>558995082where are the futa mods?
>>558994887gun + greens, stay back until you have ult, warp stone and/or phantom strike in and KILL. all gun items work on her ult slashes. pray the enemy team doesnt debuff you, if they do then debuff reducer > unstoppable. kevlar vest is also good on her note that you have to actually aim on this hero if you dont want to be uselessyou can manually activate your ult the moment the text for it appears, this can save your ass in a dicy situation
>>558995082Sorry, what was that?
Why are trannies mad over visible stamina bar?
>>558995082
I am too old for 50 minute games.Make it 30 min at most.
>>558995461are these "trannies" in the thread with us now?
>>558993959she can stab me
>>558993959finally found the timw to play again, why did they change the outlines when an enemy is low on health? bwfore qhen playing vindicta they would have this strong red but now they are barely visible
what do i do as bebop late game when everyone has 999% spirit resist so my double bomb becomes useless
>>558995593Well it is a Deadlock thread so probably but I mean outside of 4chan
>>558995660this is why you go tankbop
>>558995540brööl
>>558995660LAND A DAMN HOOK
>>558993959I've seen enough. Rough sex with paradox.
>>558995802>land hook>target instantly double dashes + warp stones backthis isnt dota where a hook into your team means instant death for the enemy
>>558996031you know you can uppercut them BEHIND you right
>>558996031Yeah displacing somebody from up to 60 meters is pretty meaningless. Wait no it fucking isnt.
Why are they like this?
>>558996264I didn't know Abrams and Pocket were in the Epstein files
>>558996264All support players are erpers did you not know that?
Sex with Billy
Graves is at least 18 right? I hope Valve soon says both her and Apollo are like 19 or older. Otherwise it is weird.
I NEED AN AGP MINA DUO, cock either very small or very big, no inbetween, hairless, fit, and feminine voice
>>558996437Apollo is specifically 18 and Graves is in the same class as him.
>>558996437Valve specifically made her 17.364 years old
>>558996437Apollo is directly said to be 18 and Graves shares a lab class with him so you can assume they're in the same school year unless you burgers do something completely different.
why are so many of the heros missing arms/hands?
>>558996253who's getting hit by 60 meter hooks? easy bots?
>>558996824secret society initiation ritual if they are connected to the baxter society
>>558996824Baxter Society loreAll members lose a hand and replace it with a prosthetic of some kind.
>>558996876Up to 60 meters. Also don't play dumb, you know people get hit by max range hooks they don't know are coming for them
People like this actually deserve to be killed.
>>558996950>>558996967is that like how the jews make you cut off your foreskin
>>558996775>you burgers do something completely different.We don't unless you're specifically trying to split hairs and say "but what about x and y situation" and at that point you want her to be underaged.
>Finally figured out my new character>Play the best I've probably ever played>Won 2 out of 10 games and dropped 3 ranks
>>558997071whats wrong with that? everyone has a bad game
>>558997282HappensEven if you're really good at your main, you will and can get shitter teams on repeat. Sometimes the matchmaking system just hates you.
>>558997071hes playing the worst character
>>558997354I've never had a game where I've done 11k damage in 42 minutes. If you've had a game like that then you should fucking kill yourself too.
>>558997470And that's part of why he deserves to die. Griefing my games by playing the worst hero in the game and not being good enough to make it work.
>>558997106pretty much>>558996437shes realistically an adult because the esrb rating agency gets really mad over minors getting killed in video games
>>558997470That's not victor though?
>>558996967This illustration almost makes Shiv look cool. Really hope they change the fucktard monkeyface at some point. Neon Prime Concord slop.
>>558997658it's just deep lore pointing at shiv and krill being same species
>>558997658Funnily enough the only differences between his current and neon prime models is that in that game his hand was cybernetic instead of a wooden arm like now
>>558997519you're taking this way too seriously
Remember old barrier builds? Fuck that shit was aids.
>>558997903>double barrier>veil walkerPeak build. Flew under the radar for weeks, if not months
reminder
>queue for streel brawl to try a hero i don't know how to play>get put in the normal gamefaggot retard game
>>558998417MUCH TALLER THAN ME...
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>558995082Source?
>>558998417tall and smelly? wow
>>558998646guh
>>558998417tall wolf mommy...
>>558998417she is tall and still a sub
I keep seeing the memes of Rem's stealing their teammates sinners and boxes but I my team never gets these and I don't wanna leave them hanging. Is this just normal Oracle behavior
>>558998990shes a total petting sloot
>play anything that isn't victor>60 minutes defeat>play victor>40 minutes stomp win
>>558998417I'm literally same height
>>558996434BASED AND TRUE
>>558999139how effective even is healbane against victor?the one time i did get it we managed to eventually win, but idk how good it was against him, it didnt really feel like it was doing that much
>>558998990silver wouldn't be a sub desu
>>558999287It tells you the exact numbers of how good it is on the item.
>>558993959clicked thread because snake lady
odds I play the gameevens I jerk off to a random male character
>>558999465looks like its not your day, gayboy
>>558999287in my experience it reaches a point that it isn't that effective cus of jumpstart dispell and his damage just scales up with a proper buildin this match that i lost, i had toxic bullets, healbane and curse as graves and he still didn't die. he didn't do any damage (mystic regen, leech, infuser) but worked exceptionally as a tank while their team raped us because no one was doing damagethe biggest counter to victor is mobility. if he can't damage you he can't heal
>>558999287Extremely good. If you are a hero that can reliably proc it on him multiple times a fight then its useful into late game. It's much better than relying on decay since Vic gets an inuilt dispel to get rid of it, but healbane you can potentially just keep on him all the time
fuck my stupid unemployed wokechudcel life...
>>558999821Stop picking heroes with your dick
>>558999947Not his fault dynamo is so sexy
>>558999370she would be, she is a mess that wants a better life and the moment she gets some genuine love it will be over for her
>>558995082Sauce. Now.
Chugging Graves' toilet water.
>>558999568Nothing stopping me from doing so after playing, heh.
>>558999060God that's hot.
>yoink grave's ult 9 times>she quits
>>559000092... you do realize that even if you take her in, provider for her, be her mentor etc she can still be the dominant one in bed? as is the case with many irl relationships
I'm thinking on getting that Graves model mod (you know which one). How safe are mods for Deadlock, and could any god tier anon provide a link for me, please?
>>559000802kys
>>559000880Why? Did I say something wrong?
>>559000802eat shit diddycoomer, buy a rope
>>559000802Completely safe for now, never heard anyone getting banned, unlikely to remain this way after the release tho.https://mega.nz/file/LA8m1aiR#cscGnoi_T-WJvesaH4l7LgE9CRyzGczm_BQaWHi0Y-U
>>559000114https://gamebanana.com/mods/655733
>>559000984hope anon doesn't have an av
>>558999370>silver wouldn't be a sub desuWRONG
>>559000980NTA but>diddycoomergraves is an adultgo kys stupid twittertroongod i fucking hate this "graves is a toddler" discourse so much, you're a fucking subhuman
>>559000980????
>>558998417>i still heightmog herI win.
>>559001093even if she wasn't, fapping to a girl from a video game isn't even remotely comparable to being a rapist sex trafficker
>haze player on my team starts constantly bitching in all chat>realize I am playing Viscous>cube them whenever they ult and puddle punch them to fuck up their positioning>endless seetheIt's just that easy
I'm trying my best but fucking hell this is not trivial, and it's not even really limited to Lady Geist, she's just my latest problemMaybe it's that my shooter instincts come more from playing Battlefield when I was younger and I'm trying to take potshots from ranges where my gun does literally no damage
I will leave this game to you kids, I am too old for this.Going back to Counter Strike where people cant fly and dash.
>>559001529you've been saying this for about two years right
>>559001279true, twitteroids can't separate fiction from reality >>559001529im pretty good at deadlock, i mean, oracle lolbut im god awful at CS, like im silver, the level of play is so high these days, it seems like even silvers can headshot constantly and hold corners well, its a way harder game for me lol
>>559001419Sometimes it's just bad luck, but are you farming and stuff?
Am I retarded or is Graves' 1 just meant to take a dynasty and a half to charge? I find myself literally killing 3 waves of minions and still not enough for the jar to get even one charge.
>>559001408Don't forget rescue beam!
>>559001756More or lessIf anything it feels like my general impact is just lowMaybe I'm not brooling enough or I'm not brooling in the right way
>>558997610oy vey the baxberg society has to circumcise your arm goy
this is how it feels to slowing hex mina
>>559000802I'm that anon and honestly your responses made me rethink my approach. I ain't gonna mod shit for this game, and just focus on gameplay. Thanks lads
Geist is literally a better Graves in every single way, she just takes a miniscule more skill to play.>her 1 is the best area denial tool in the game, and clears entire lanes in just one cast>her 2 is massive sustain during a fight, and it does absurd damage to objectives, making it better than graves 4 at objective taking>her 3 is damage amp for u and the entire team>her 4 makes her unkillable solo and super safe compared to graves which dies the nanosecond she gets jumpedI literally solo end games by just pushing with Geist and deleting the base with my 1 and 2, Graves cannot even properly take walkers by herself.
>>559002283>he let twitter sjws tell him what to thinkbad move m8... even though personally I don't mod though it can't get you banned, valve has basically allowed it, at least for the test period after release you 100% won't be able to mod
>>559002045You should only really be brooling if there's something to gain from it like urn or walkers. Random brools in bumfuck nowhere doesn't really accomplish much.
>>558997976>you became immortal during the regen so a 1 health pocket could stall for like 20 seconds whilst sitting at 1 healthIf there's one thing I'm glad is gone for good from the old shop it's barrier builds. They nerfed them like 20 times and they were still the best thing you could build until they just reworked the shop.
>>559002283anon i was just baitposting in my reply there, i shoot fat rope to graves all the time do whatever you want
>>559002387This, 6v6 fights in the jungle are completely pointless and if these start happening you should use the chaos to push objectives on the opposite side uncontested
>>559002378>after release you 100% won't be able to modmaybe we will, Valve doesn't intentionally anti mod their games, they're just built on frameworks that don't have enough client side freedom for modding. Deadlock though is pretty moddable at its core, so they might not do anything to curb that as it would take a lot of work
>cheating subhuman wraith in my game>check his profile>new steam account>profile picture is pic relatedKill yourself you fucking disgusting third world pajeet subhuman if any of you see this person in your game make sure to reporthttps://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199813275856
>>559000763she is half dog, she seeks and loves attention and approvalshe would 100 be a sub most of the time and even more in her heat
>>559002592this, silver would be as puppygirl as it getsshes already wearing a collar ffs ...
>>558999287Best anti heal against victor alongside crippling headshot.But the actual counters to victor is silencer, silencing wave and curse.Read the passive on silencer, it reduces outgoing spirit damage by 25% AND silences him, and silences are how you counter victor.>>558999595And as anon here says his biggest counter is stamina. I've been thinking about building stamina mastery instead of enduring speed on victor but I'm not entirely sure yet.
is it just me or do you often go agaisnt heroes you have on priority
>>559002551nobody's modding dota 2 lol
does silver have a fortune cookie???
>>559002770the workshop exists, as do custom game modes
>>559002801don't think she eats chinese food
>>559002801yes
>>559002770dota 2 and cs go/cs2 are very hard to mod because they're both built on layers upon layers of past projects that make them really hard to mod, their multiplayer framework is very fudged into working. And even then both do still have some modsDeadlock isn't like that, its much more simple and that's partly why its super easy to change character models and other stuff.
I'm convinced that I will never be good at this game, I have 400 hours played and yet I never carry, I end up being carried, even if I play a carry character like Haze I end up behind on souls even if I kill the waves and camps and barely get any kills
>>559002551You cannot have unrestricted client side modding in a competitive game because retards would ruin it for everyone by making borderline cheat mods that give them advantage.
yeah movement is just too broken and if you master movement yo->knockdown
>enemy abrams goes directly under my walker to kill me>the walker doesnt stomp him once despite him being there for like 10 seconds
>>559002770The popular TFT literally came out of a Dota 2 workshop mod.
>>559003217I don't how I'll survive without my pause music mod. Seems like there's pauses every single game
>play fun characters but have the outcome of a match being completely out of your handsor>play shitty boring hyper carries that make you farm camps all game to have a chance of winning the game for your negative iq retard teammateswhich way solo queue man
>>559003540i play heroes that do both
>>559003540Go random, build whatever, farm everything and always push no matter what.
>>559003540i have fun with victor
>>559003357The guardians and walkers need major buffs. Right now they're literally incapable of keeping you safe even if the enemy is feeding their ass off. They just deal no damage and their targeting sucks ass.What's even the point of structuring the game around laning phases if the enemy can just walk into your tower and kill you with 0 consequences?
>try to play carry and buy pure damage>can't seem to kill anybody before they blow me up>bite the bullet and play more supporty, buying only counter items and greens>never die and rack up killsAm I stupid or what? How come all the top builds have mostly damage and buying 1 green like counterspell and those guys live forever
>>558996264>didn't censor Haze's eyes in the commendation iconThe OSIC is going to kill you.
>>558999139when it works, sure, but matchmaking is a cruel and fickle whore. had one last night where my entire team was extremely new but the enemy team was all serial rapists. lanes gaped and pushed, jungle depopulated, team constantly dead because they kept trying to teamfight midboss and urn while I'm trying to fucking farm, and before I knew it I was a perpetually solo victor who couldn't farm. it was a relatively quick match but a very painful one
>>559003760>at any point the enemy can run under your tower, parry it and kill youHow is this fair
Not having a draft is one thing but giving me a full spirit team vs victor and abrams is a completely different fucking story
>>559003760Tier 1 and Tier 2 turrets being ineffective are the death of mobas. League became completely unplayable when they nerfed turrets into the ground while also making it easy for every champ in the game to survive under the enemy tower. If Deadlock keeps being like this, it has no longevity. You can't force people into a 3 lane structure and then make towers worthless.
>>559004234I'd say this is a tasteless mod if only her base face didn't look weird as fuck
>>559003769Are you hitting your 4.8k vitality spikes, anon?Have you been getting a defensive item to suit against the comp you're facing?
>>559002801ancient chinese silver build...
>>559003769>How come all the top builds have mostly damage and buying 1 green like counterspell and those guys live foreverThey're made by pros who know literally everything about the game and how to avoid shit, noobs try these builds, turn on autoqueue and autobuy, and get cooked
>>559003909Go under their tower, parry and rape them.
>>559002801wolf form does
>>559003769i started doing my own builds with annotations. a lot of the public ones are retarded memey names and have a strange purchasing order, very few are actually usefulthere are certain things you will always buy due to being core to the character, but there's a lot of context that needs to be taken that these builds lack to provide
How the FUCK do I play Vindicta now that she isn't a glorified pos 4 anymore>hurr get weapon damage %she needs so much shit to be viable that this doesn't matter until late, and for this whole time you haven't been benefited from printing souls with ult, she can't farm for shit
how is yamatos laning phase? I feel very squishy in 1-10 mins. and powerful later. What is a hero that is smiliar to someone like darius that dominates early game?
>>559004234>highly detailed face>outfit is a textureless blobby messlooks so fucking goofy
>>559004385I don't know why you'd never buy fortitude at the very least, that's one of my favorite items in the game. Regeneration, health, move speed when you're healthy to promote roaming, it's my GOAT on Doorman
>>559004779>dominates early gameminabut useless lateyou can just go abrams and be strong in every phase of the game tho
>>559004779Billy.
>>559004881>move speedThat's the issue here. Remember, a lot of the builds are made by the E6 hyper sweatlords that don't walk anywhere. You can get from yellow lane to green lane in 30 seconds without walking only jumping, bouncing and strafing. What works for you might not work for them and vice versa.
>Haze is a good lanerAnd other lies said by the mentally deranged
Yurilock
>>559005363Haze is a bad laner but absurdly cancer to lane against if she has a good brawly lanemate like drifter or abrams.
Silver!
im going to play drifter for the first time any tips
>Do nothing but farm all the creeps i can see in my sight, lane creeps first, and all the neutural camps that happen to be inbetween>Still one of, if not the poorest faggot in the gameI genuinely dont understand what am i doing wrong, i;ve played dota for like a thousand hours and have the same issue there, but atleast i can go pos5-4, here it feels like every character needs to farm in order to not fall back drastically
>numbers still going strongwhy aren't people quitting bros everyone said that people will quit why are people having fun
>>559005645Remember that your ult is also insanely useful for retreats, especially in a losing team fight
>>559005753Maraflop is bleeding players daily and they're coming back to Deadlock
>>559005753NOOOOOOOOO you're spamming steam charts stoooooop deadlock is gonna die....please play LoL please
>do really well as Shiv in lane>feel completely fucking useless mid-late game besides just being a killstealing monkeyI feel like Shiv used to be more fun and good
>>559005753The invites are actually spreading like a virus and aside from unbalanced characters this is a solid patch.
>>559005753My hero shooter player friends outright ditched Rivals and Overwatch for Deadlock, I'm sure there's many more people like them
>>559005753So this is why i've been seeing more newbies in gamenext big patch should be the one where valve just puts out the open beta at this point
>>559005939>killstealingnot a thing unless drifter is on your team
>>559006141they need to do a full model revamp pass on all the fucked up shit like sinclair, vyper, viscous, gray talon etc. and go through minor touchups on older ones such as abrams, dynamo etc. as soon as possible
>>559004190The towers are perfect in DL. Good enough to punish early aggression but won't overstay their welcome. The ABSOLUTE worst feeling in LoL is falling behind and being forced into a 10 minutes unwinnable laning phase. The most cucked experience I ever experienced in a game.
>>559005753marvel rivals is the same as it was since launchoverwatch 2 is the same as it was since launchthey both are the same slopdeadlock is unique
newbro here, just started and have a few questions>do last hits matter>how do you sustain in lane early on>any trick to leveling? the rate seems almost random>should i be picking up boxes>seems like early kills are worthless?>anything critical i should be doing?
So, why should players be allowed to stand under walker and take zero damage? There's zero fucking penalty for anything, so all players just act like entitled shits
>mina uses rake>can you just cum, please?1930's phrases were really weird...
>>559003760You are supposed to protect the towers.
>>559002993>>559004574hot........
i got mvp for the first time!
>>559006554all im saying is that rake sounds like rape...
>>559006547the walkers give you resists when you are defending them.if you kill the troopers attacking the walker they will actually defend you, the trick to actually using them is to kill the fucking troopers before even thinking about plinking at enemies.
>>559006537>>do last hits matteryes>>how do you sustain in lane early onsustain items and killing enemy healing troopers>>should i be picking up boxesyes>>seems like early kills are worthless?no, they can be the start of a brutal snowball
>>559003309>gets up after literally half a secondyeah so anyway movement is in fact broken
>>5590065371. no2. some tier 1 items and or skills combined with avoiding fire3. hit the orbs that escape your little fellas, break nearby boxes and jungle4. absolutely not they can help you get ahead5. learn to schmove and navigate the map
How do I enable ranked?
>>559007438It is always enabled
>>559007438It's always enabled but to actually see ranks you have to tick a couple of boxes in settings
>>559006537killing laners by itself doesn't give you much but it stops them from farming, there's this mechanic that gives you extra stats if you spend a certain amount of money in a type of item so even being 1.5k behind can be brutal if you use it wisely, and levels are also tied to souls so that could also mean a power spike like an ultimate on top of extra stats and other spikes like getting that busted ability to max rankthe best thing you can learn early on is how to make use of your downtime like when waiting for the next wave, you'll always have 10~20k souls on everyone else constantly teamfighting mid lane even if your kd doesn't show it
>>559004186
thoughts on spirit abrams?
>>559006537Okay so last hitting is like this:When a creep dies it drops souls, some on the ground which are automatically picked up if you're nearby, some float up into the airAfter floating up into the air for a moment, the souls are automatically collected by nearby heroesHOWEVERThose green soul orbs appear orange to your enemyIf they shoot your soul orbs, they steal the souls, "denying" youYou can prevent them from denying you by shooting the green soul orbs, but if they don't shoot them, you'll get the souls anywayA couple of notes: Souls are automatically shared with nearby heroes, so there's no lane farm priority bullshit like DotaAlso, you're expected to push waves fairly aggressively, so just shoot that shit
>>559005753>closed alpha with horrible balance and random teams gets 100k dailyHow does Valve do it? they don't even advertise their games.
>>559008404i mean they also have flops such as artifact and underlords
pulse grenade's ready....
i think im the worst silver on the planet
>>559002571nothing wrong with a profile pic bro
>>559008689artifact deserves flop status, but underlords is basically a mini game they just threw out for the hell of it
>>559002801In human form too
Haze is Missing
I'm such a wasteful retard with my stamina, I go through all of the bars like it's nothing
>Don't get my main>Run it down 0/10>Get my main>WinIts as shrimple as that.Seriously though why did I get laned against a obvious onetrick with a hero I have less than 10 games on.
>play a brawl before closing the game>get enhanced stamina mastery and enhanced rapid recharge on celeste>just jump around with 8 stamina and 7 charges on her 3hehehe
holliday is just celeste/lash at home
>>559008404gaming fatigue is a myth, difficulty scaring players is a myth, most games are simply not good enough to interest people, if it's too similar to everything else that's called being unoriginal not hero shooter fatigue, one thing I never liked about hero shooters is how it's basically just a TDM with some dressing, deadlock is differentif sony can't break 2 million units on their only exclusive for the year with 100 million ps5s out there it's not because too many good games came out or a game from a completely different genre just released, the game just isn't good enough
>>559008402>>559007168>orbsjesus christ whats the point of this overcomplicated bullshitnone of this was even mentioned in the tutorial
>>559010239just shoot the orbs before the enemy does, ez pz
>>559010151people unironically desire complexity, you can make a babymode game that any retard can pick up and have fun, but that wont hold their attention for longnow a game with builds, complex mechanics, and things to sink time into and actually learnthat's something that can hold people
>>559009946Geist has some similarities to Celeste too
ok but when is yoshi going to add SEX
>>559010582with Abrams?
>>559009640that's just how it is, you'll always end up bumping into a one-trick eventually. Just gotta pray you face one when you're on your own one-trick/main.>>559010239>Orb come out of thing>I gotta shoot it>Ough it's so complexIf you aren't baiting, you have to fuck off and spread your brain damage in the usual places like Wal-mart or i guess your mothers womb, christ you're inept
>>559008404>make good game>people will play itshrimple as that.deadlock doesn't even have any cancerous retention mechanics and it mogs all the gaas slop filled to the brim with dailies and battle passes.
>>559010582>>559010636SexWithAbrams
Instead of hand cuffs Silver should carry her bolas on her belt
>>559010582i can fix victor
>>559010582
>bebop wants a swap>swap since he'll get better bombs in this lane>get horribly raped in lane, look at the enemy and see that they both have sparkles in their names>look at bebop and see his name matches the guy he swapped to play with, except they don't rape as hard as the enemy duo that's raping me>loseI swear they need to force duo fags in their own ques or not let them swap, even by dropping of the zip. Make them walk all the way if they want to swap and coordinate it
>>559006251Kill stealing is fucking annoying when you're trying to get your reset on Silver 4 because assists don't count like every other kill based ability for some fucking reason.
>>559006894Doesn't work, you kill the troopers, the walker still won't ever threaten players. Any character can stand under it and never be in danger of actually dying even when there's no minions. And even fucking then, another wave of minions will land right next to the walker because of how the lines work. On top of all that, no matter how many waves you kill, they will just never get their back door resistance back.
Is there any way to make a decent aim training setup in the testing area? Like making a bot recording in a fighting game.My aim is the worst part of my play but I can’t focus on improving it with everything else that goes on in this game.
>>559010636>>559010717Kys faggots
>>559005753It's literally street brawl. No one likes mobaslop pve last-hitting for the first 20 minutes of every match. The last batch of six heroes had the playerbase die off in like two weeks. The only difference with this batch is it added street brawl.
secret chinese venator build
>>559011584>glass cannonbanned in china actually
>>559011271>for some fucking reason.maybe because she is already braindead OP enough and doesn't need to be even stronger?
Everytime I come in to help in the team, they fucking leave me. Fuck you stupid niggers, imma keep split pushing from now on. I will go 1/10/1 if I have to - still more souls than you retards.
>>559011807same, each time I come help they just fuck off and it's me vs 5 enemies
apollo - 48% winrateceleste - 49% winrateuh I thought they were op dlg sissies
>>559011724kek
Is it feasible to kill two walkers at the same time so neither gets the health increase?
it's kind of awkward when you have both teams swapping lanes to avoid eachother, I don't think being able to see the other team's swaps makes much sense.
>>559011969Discord kittens are bringing down Celeste's WR.
how do you survive a full damage venator? can't even get close
is the blademail item (return dmg when hit) good for using it during like a channeled ult? can the returned damage lifesteal?
Sinclair spammer with 600 games hereI think I can safely say I hate the bolt speed change it actively just made him less fun to play. Don't know why Yoshi did it really. I didn't ask for bolt scaling.
>>559012464cursed relic? disarming hex? metal skin?
>>559012537no and yes. it's a good item situationally, since it only reflects bullets and not all incoming damage types, so against teams with heavy gun presence it's significantly better. most of the time people skip it in favor of metal skin
>>559011575>No one likes mobaslop pve last-hitting for the first 20 minutes of every matchI do. if there was a role where you were in eternal lane phase, killing creeps and donating the souls to teammates, I would queue for that role like 75% of the time.I love helping my team, I love killing creeps, I love running urn and I am NOT joking.
>new player>less than 100 games played>somehow put into oracleerm iceyoshi what the hell
>>559001419>get into new game>the most fucking obscenely aggressive vyper and ivy I've ever had the misfortune of playing against>feels an order of magnitude more intense than my typical ritualist games>effectively grabbed by the fucking nuts and forced to lock in>end up ramping up and playing way more aggressively>we start taking towers>bebop abandons in the midgame leading to an early victory>not MVP but close>check rank>FUCKING SEEKERHow in the FUCKLike maybe they were just all absolute dogshit at macro and we just overall won but the lane was SO AGGRESSIVE I felt like I was being forced to play in a game several ranks higher than usual yet apparently it was fucking easy mode and all I can say is what the FUCK WAS THAT
>>558993959Please dont fuck the crazy snake lady
It's literally impossible to win street brawl, I have a 70% winrate in normals and am continuing to climb but somehow I have a 30% street brawl winrate. The mode is intentionally a joke where you can't win
>>559013212bout fiddy percent for me
>>559013485thats the way she goes
>play graves>get constant free kills out of nowhere while not even in the lane where it happensfunny character
>>559013485if you used a gun build im going to laugh at you
>>559013212i just pick bebop and win a lot>hook a faggot>allah ackbar him>punch the retard back to his team>triple killround is over in 1 minute
How do I fucking enable ranked in this dogshit game? Why does everything in here has to been so tranny coded? Why can't there be a match mode simple called - ranked? Woah, that's so hard to implement!!
>>559012790>if there was a role where you were in eternal lane phase, killing creeps and donating the souls to teammates, I would queue for that role like 75% of the time.this is basically rem.
>>559013798esl moron
>>559013817Where's the donate part you hoarding rat fuck, give me those souls
>>559013881faggot spic
does bebop not pull enemies around objects when he hooks them? half the time if i hook someone it feels like they dont come to me because a tiny pebble was in the way
>>559013798You may have to play some more games to reveal it
drifter should get stacks for simply hitting people like bebop
>>559013817>donating the souls to teammatesyou literally don't
>>559013798you have to pay to unlock ranked mode, currently. just email gabe newell a picture of your credit card and it will be enabled for you next time you start up deadlock.
>dota 2 >the hook character pudge is braindead op and everyone hates playing against it>deadlock>the hook character bebop is braindead op and everyone hates playing against iticefrog is a dumbfuck
>>559014205Sinners souls from helpers go to the team if rem isnt nearby
>>559013964Jajajaja https://www.nydailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/2013/06/13/RBHB47VI326SQ4O3TWS67H7CJA.jpg?w=1800&resize=1800,1800
>>559013969they will always appear in front of you, nothing can stop them
>>559014382I swear Bebop hook is both better and worse than Pudge hookOn the one hand, Pudge has way more opportunities to just hide and grab you out of nowhereOn the other hand, Bebop hook has a fucking obscene range and is way harder to dodge in spite of how fast you moveAlso the bombs do obscene damage
how to build billy in brawl?
>>559013817I haven't tried rem yet but I probably should since he's an effective support who also pushes lanes.
>>559010636Abrams is for sex with ME
>>559014606abrams squishy blue thighs..........
>>559014572the bombs are kinda the only thing he has going for him, the punch does no damage and his gun does LITERALLY no damage so when he hooks you you can kinda just stay in his face and kill him if you counter spell the bomb
>>559014382Pudge requires way more skill to actually land hook bebop has insane hook range and he does stupid amounts of free damage from bombs
>>559014606>>559014702Kys faggots
>>559014572Letting him scale to the point of his bombs doing 1k damage just because he can use his fucking abilities is so god damn stupidatleast drifter has to solo kill youatleast mo has to kill you during ult but noooo this dumb fucking nigger hero gets to nuke your entire health bar because he can press 2 on youepic!
>>559014532so how come sometimes when i hook them i get the damage notification that it hit them, but the hook breaks after like one second? debuff remover?
>>559014801deadlock is ran by the alphabet mafia lil bro
>>559014829show a webm example and i'll tell you what happened
>>559014903The "alphabet mafia" doesn't play the game, they sit on 4chan and reddit all day posting porn like the retards they are
why is paradox scottish when she clearly has an irish accent
>>559014829reactive barrier
>a play of the game type of replay will be added next updateno pls
>>559014903The "eating shit" and "dying childless" mafia
how do you play mina? ive tried some online builds but feels like im doing fuck allis she a pure jungler?also how important is movement speed? should my builds include some mov speed items? i see streamers zoom across the map but my shit moves very slowly
>>559015431They should add a "worst play of the game" where it shows the entire server you failing to time a sinners properly
11-1 as Seven. Am I cracked out of my mind good with this character or is he busted?
>>559011332I don't know I just practice on the birds while I'm waiting for a match
>>559015431you vill be forced to watch their apollo solo ult your braindead haze while she's afkfarming in jungle (with extra slowmo)
vyper with stamina mastery is broken as fuck holy cow
I'm still low rank but at least I'm getting to the point where I can say I'm not the biggest liability on my team
>>559008989i assume hes referring to the fetish material the pic has within it
>>559015508>>559015060mad
>>559014903Based>>559015060But I play the game for hours daily.
>>559011575You are retarded, if you genuinely believe that "Get random items and teamfight" genuinely can hold people's attention for more than maybe 10 games
There should be no penalities for leaving matches. CBA waiting a minute for respawn.
>>559016056mad and brown
from a new player's perspective it's really funny to see how the lane phase and mid game are dominated one-sidedly by people with better shooting skills and then the people with moba experience completely flipping the script on them once they're closer to their full build.
Should they add buybacks?
>>559014382I have literally never heard of anyone considering Pudge OP.THe only time, is the brief meta where you would play carry and rush aghanim to make your Rot cover half the screen and kill everyone's movement
guess the rank of my main
>>559016151The low ranks are hardly even a MOBA it's just team deathmatch until one side randomly ends up with more souls.
>>559016018funny how i can recognize you now sitting in these threads literally all dayim assuming your a tranny
>>559016106they should add a minigame to the respawn screen that will shave 5% off of your respawn time if you win and announce to both teams that you failed if you lose.
>>559016136>CoD/Halo/Battlefield brained retards shoudlnt express their opinions on games>Ugh ugh, you are brown!
I am so tired...
>>559016210there is buyback alreadyyou can also reset your ability point if you've used it in the wrong one, just have to do it fast
>>559015616>is she a pure jungler?Holy shit no. The opposite. She is a lane bully that snowballs.Get extra stamina. Headshots build lovebites faster, as does rake.
I wanna press this button badly
why no one plays billy he's fun as fuck
>>559016667Buyback - is when you pay some money to respwan early
>>559016807unstick hero?
>>559016596deploying forced-50 agents to the enemy team for your next 6 six games. enjoy the free wins
>>559015808Why would you ever build that she has 6 stamina built into her kit
>>559011969A good player will win with Doorman. A shit player will lose with Celeste. Not complicated
>>559016825I do, but hes only fun when you do not play with a team of pussies scared of their own shadow.>Chasing 2 low hp guys, there 3 of us, they run up under T1 tower, everyone refuses to dive and runs away to spawnEvery single fucking time
Spirit bruiser Doorman with Torment Pulse and Cheat Death, thoughts?
>>559016596Forced 50% thats just how it is in these online game
If you play Haza - I hope you and your whole family gets raped and murdered by a pack of niggers. Death upon your name
>>5590169758 > 6
>>559016897thank you, that's what I needalso, what's the deal with people's inability to push lanes?half of those loses are because my team got pushed hard
>>559015393huh? reactive barrier automatically stops bebop hooks?...
>>559017164Amen brother
>>559014725>2d game>skill
>>559017097>cheat deathisn't that item just garbage?
>>5590171706 is more than enough lol, 3200 souls for 2 extra stam? I'd rather get spirit resil
I love doing this to people
>>559017241Overwatch and Marvel rivals people who cannot comprehend the concept
omg I'm about to hit ascendant 1 playing mostly doorman and vindicta hopefully I'm leaving all of the slavs behind... right?
>>559017319Yeah, totally garbage. Never ever buy it on Doorman and become an immortal demigod, its not worth it.
>>559017298If you are above the age of 12, and your gaming expirience doesnt consist exclusively of Call of duty and Halo, aiming is not considered skill
>>559017319It's good on heroes with escapes like doorman or sinclair because it guarantees that you will escape almost anything when you are roaming risky places on the mapI wouldnt be be buying it early in a game though when dispel magic or a barrier often does the same job but cheaper.
I'm sick of Doorman ultI'm sick of Apollo ultI'm sick of Rem ult
>>559016287He has had the highest pick/ban rate for the entire history of dota....
I give up on Holliday, what a shitty quarter-baked hero.I'm eagerly awaiting the rework, Yoshi.
>>559017429Now post the rest of the game where Drifter rapes your whole team late
>>559016596>abrams tranny can't even carry on the most broken herolol
>>559017986Not happening, she's popular among esports types.
>>559017903And it has nothing to do with his power level, he is just fun to play, and is culturally the face of the game.Pudge gets double-pick banned, more often than picked, no matter what his stance in the meta is
>>559014382Hook characters NEVER improve any game they're inThey're only added as some weird obligation at this point, a hook ability will also be perma viable and nearly impossible to balance without making it either broken (the default state) or useless.
>>559018070nigga, I am 20 hours in, who the fuck am I supposed to play?
>>559018201wraith
>>559016519v mad
>>559017903Pudges pick rate has literally nothing to do with his ability to win games.He is just fun and well known. Nobody spams pudge to grind mmr
vindicta brawl players deserve to be hanged
>cannot surrenderfine, I'll just go afk at the spawn for the next 30m. See ya niggers
this guy rly crashed out huh
>>559018079>he's actually super weak! People definitely care about the "cultural face" of the game in competitive matches, that's why he's played so much Unreal cope.
>>559017986should just get the McCree rework where her gun has few bullets but are super strong, and the explosive barrels does a short stun so she becomes an anti-flanker (quick headshot kills)
>>559018379You are severely overestimating how much your avarage person cares about winning the game
>>558993959How to movement autism in this game? I get the sliding part on ledges but the jumping shit I can't. Also what other heroes play like Haze? I want to afk farm and scale I like ven but I don't want to play a spiritfag.
I have no idea what the game looks like these days but pudge definitely used to be a throw pick in competitive dota and would only get picked as a crowd-pleaser
>>559018374>See ya niggersI doubt I'll be seeing you again since you are going into low prio matchmaking, probably indefinitely.You can type nigger into chat all you want, I don't give a shit, but spineless quitters deserve to be lynched
>>559018375>m*tro
>>559018478Uh no I'm not. There's a reason the actual casuals cry about "toxicity" in mobas. People want to win at all costs.
>>559018375whats even the logic behind Lightning scroll?
>>559017903>>559018379In pubs. He's the most popular hero in pubs. At TI 2025 he had a 9% presence.
Why would they make games take 20 years to finish? I wanna be done in 20m per match. CBA wasting time after my laner goes 0/2 in less than 2m. >>559018596just add a surrender button, it's not that hard. You can see if the game is over after 5m.
>get hooked in dota>you are now close to a hero who's dangerous up close>get hooked in deadlock>you are now close to a hero who's dogshit weak up closewhat was the thought process here?
>>559018379He was popular in dota 1 in part because of the custom game Pudge wars.He was popular in dota2 because of Dendi too.I've played dota for over 10 years and fucking dread having pudges on my team because they are usually complete dogshit, and even the good ones get counterplayed and outscaled by semi competent players regularly.
>>559018072We can only hope that Yoshi won't be completely retarded and cater exclusively to them.Paradox has been esports-bait for a long time now and you barely see anyone play her.Justifying terrible kits because 1 ability or something is good for top 0.1% coordinated play is an awful idea but definitely something that Valve does, we can only hope that Yoshi won't follow in IceFraud's footsteps with that.
>>559017986leave boing boing barrel yeehaw alone. she doesn't need a full rework. I just wish there was any reason at all to throw a barrel without immediately sending it at someone with light melee. I want a bonus for shooting the barrel.
>>559018732I don't think that pudge can punch you further into his team after hooking, no?
>>559018723>You can see if the game is over after 5mFuck off. Seriously. Go play something else. You are way fucking stupider than you think you are.
>>559018478What a stupid statement, people take the path of least resistance and pick the easiest broken characters and meta shit all the time.
>Unstoppable feeder vs Immovable leaverEvery other match is like thisgreat game Valve
>>559018596Seethe about it, that's not how it works. People have been afking and soft-afking in Dota 2 in lieu of a surrender button since 2012 and nothing ever happens to them.
>>559018985*dashes away back to safety*punch needed to disable stamina usage or apply movement silence, it does nothing right now
>>559019020No nigger, I'm 100% right. Stop acting like a >le red di torIf you get a 0/2 faggot in your lane in 2m of game time, it's lost. Why do I have to be punished and spend another 30m with this loser?
>>559018985Pudge can hook you through impassable terrain you dingus
>>559016705what does her typical engagement look like?poke enemy with passive and then dive + the melee attack when they are low?her autos feel kinda useless but might be just me being new + bad
I'm in ELO hell Ascendant
>>559019218just pick up the urn nigga
They should keep Holliday with lasso + sharpshooting and give jump pads + barrels to Donkey Kong or something
>>559019258Yeah but he can't dump techies bombs in your asshole then run away at mach 5 either
and now I gotta play Victor, greattime to go afk again
>>559019218Then dont fucking queue you entitled little bitch ass fucking weak tilting CUNT. You are absolutely fucking pathetic and you are so fucking stupid. You have no idea how many games youve thrown with your toddler behaviour. YOU ARE TOO WEAK FOR A VIDEOGAME and that is outrageously pathetic.Stick to fucking lol you fucking subhuman trashbag. You ARE the loss merchant.
can they buff Doorman I feel like if I dont end in under 15 minutes I dont get to play the game anymore
does curse beat unstoppable?
>>559018374they should replace the "extra competitive" queue setting with a "surrender button" queue. so all the people who want to play the first 5 minutes of the game on loop can quit throwing because they lost 1 (one) lane.
>>559019524get a job
>>559019654GET A SPINE
>>559019598bitch your ult makes people not play. suffer.
>>559019368>I'm in ELO hellworks alone since every single rank is a state of flux, I could probably make a new account and be in eternus is less than 5 matches with how fucked it is
they should add "send an FPV drone to the bottom fragger on your team" button
just give me graves so I don't have to do this shit....
>grown up rem be like
>>5590197476 second CC that does 1/19th of their hp vs 20 mins of doing a 5th of their hp after the 15 minute mark
>>559019790Maybe I just have too much expectations from my team but sometimes I feel like these people genuinely don't know how the game works. Which doesn't make sense at this rank.
>>559011735>braindead op
>>559019598>>559019997i love how much doorman cuck fags seethe constantly
I like playing Mo and Krill :)
>>559019936he grows up to be a nigga that repeatedly gets beaten by women?
>>559019627they both beat each other depending on what was used first
>Willingly puts on an oversized collar every morningWhat are the lore implications of this? Are lycanthropes required by law to wear a collar?
I enabled the post-match average team rank but where do you see it, I cant find it
>>559019262You play hit and run. You get in close, proc love bites, hit rake, then swooce back out, generally speaking.Pop the ult in a teamfight to silence people or use it as an escape when ganked or to finish off a low enemy. Shes not a very noob friendly hero though really. You need to know your limits and how to read a situation, because you die fast if you make the wrong call
>>559019936>grown up rem be like
>>559020064Me too but I start to miss being able to do some things without your team unless you completely steamroll your laneIf they can't fight the enemy team there's not much you can do
>>559020198ZAMN!
>>559020120It's ironic
the modder that deadlock needs and deserves
i'm at an elo where almost nobody even bothers with sinners on both teams should i feel bad about slurping them all up?
>>559020540you are trying too hard
>>559020540Don't feel bad, eventually you'll run into a Rem that does take them and you'll have an epiphany when you see the 1.8k soul bag they drop
>>559020631at some point i feel like someone is going to tilt at me for stealing their shit so if its better to just take my lane's then i'll stick with that
>>559012548yov vvill bolt spam and nothing else unless the enemy has a dynamo or graves.
>get mvp just hitting the walker while flying around and spamming barrelswhere do you think you're going?
>>559020067he is still a kind soul
>>559020907Or a bebop or a seven or a celeste or an apollo or a rem or a holliday or a silver or a mokrill or a doorman or a...
Why is Celeste considered a problem when Calico exists?
>>558993959
>>559021180spiritbreaker
>>559019936What exactly is this?
>>559020454Like why is that a problem?it's a mod, that you need to download, isntall and only you will see?
>>559021206Mo maxxing
>>559021180slowing hex
>>559021206Army niggas just love coming up with random ass drills huh.>Ah yes I can't wait till I can slide and shoot of off stairs.
>>559021206what's the name of this technique? the rib rattler?
>>559021025I was in a match with a haze and wraith doing both 60k damage and I was playing dynamo with almost 70k healing and the shiv (he got two executes last base push) got MVPHe did 20k damage.It was kinda funny because it only makes me wonder if this game has a parameter check for "ults and CC eaten without dying" because he'd just eat 3 ults and then I'd save him before things went too bad at which point we had a full team of ults against like a single drifter blind.
>>559021426the long quiet from slay the princesssuffice to say, the resemblance is uncanny
>>559021456People on Twitter are control freaks
at what elo does gun graves fall off?
>>559021938You don't need mercurial magnum, get like lightning scroll or mystic reverb.
>>559021573The problem is also that they tend to be turbofed with 20 kills, extra immunity actives for when they're slowed, and no one else bothers to buy counters
How do you view another player's steam profile when you're not friends?
>>559017986fuck you, she's the most fun heroget some skills
>>559021206can someone post the version where its reversed please thank you
>>559017986why does celeste get a "oops you missed" refund on her ult where holiday doesnt
>>559021892it was a brawl match but our drifter did the heavy lifting after i hit some nasty lasso ults for him to finish them off and i only got kills after the third round come back with barrel spam
I was the least excited about silver from the new batch because she was going to be the least polished (+ her fanbase) but now she is my new main, at what rank do people start buying silver counters because its not oracle yet.
will they add facial expressions to the characters in the future?
>>559022780we don't need that shit
Doorman utterly fails at being a troll character. Even M&K does it better.
>>559021938>all that just tog et walked away from because you bought no movement
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO *dies*
>Went from playing one-two games max a day to 5I think im addicted ladsZero clue how ecelebs play this for 8+ hours straight its so goddamn draining afterwards.
>>559019598Just transition to split pusher, he's probably one of the best in the game>Bell instaclears waves>does good damage to structures>His ult is super short CD and Can be used to waste enemy time or escape>Cart is good disengage >Door when maxed is a 100 meter instant escape if you place the first one down preemptivelyHis bells reduce accuracy by 100% which means bullets come out of guns at right angles or some shit I dunno. He's pretty good all game
does game record my camera movement in replays? because I often look at asses and stuff..
>>559023328Bitch has 7 abilities she's broken af
https://files.catbox.moe/npownp.jpg
>>559022780Most likely, yes. Valve loves that shit and abrams already has some. He looks at this gun when reloading for example.
>>559023806I ain't clicking that shit unc, i've learned from my past mistakes, links here are either pedo shit or guro or other depraved garbage.
>>559023620yesalso anyone spectating you can see your camera movement by switching view with the scroll wheel
>retard dies 10 times in the middle of the enemy jungle achieving fuckall>'this team fucking sucks'
>>559024046worse, it's futafaggotry
>>559023806the fuck is that meme with monster, I'm too old
>>559023620>die in teamfight>spectating team>see my russian retard teammate playing mina looking up her skirt in spawn while a fight is happening next to him
>>559024046you forgot the ip loggers too
Victor is so boring to play. Every game feels the same.
>>559018882The playstyle could still exist but on a more fitting hero that isn't a serious cowgirl sheriff.
>reach Phantom>get nothing but russians who play way worse than anyone in Oraclehow did these fucks reach this rank?
>>559022531>(+ her fanbase)they dont play the game, pay no mind to them >oracletodays oracles were yesterdays emissaries
>>559024610there's niggas out there reaching Phantom with 10 games, the matchmaking and ranked systems are completely fucked
>>559022417>holliday has a 2 minute hook ult>bebop has an 8 second hook
>>559024463you wouldnt understand
>>558993959rem is profoundly unhealthy for the game at the ranks most people play athe's just like when doorman first came out, except his gun is far betterinsane burst in lane, and can starve the enemy team of sinners without even being present, which are so pivotal to snowballingthe damage the sinners deal is meant to balance the risk and reward for doing them, yet he can trade freely off them with his helperseverything about him as a hero is fine EXCEPT this, and it needs to be addressednot even going to talk about how busted as fuck silver or celeste is because rem's helpers are just that busted.no damage, you can't shoot the helpers off a sinner's, and he gets the full reward while heading to the next one in another zip code. zero counterplay outside of "get there faster"
>>559023126Works on my machine
>>559016290oracle IV?
>>559017986I hope so too, I despise playing with a Holliday in my team because they always swing whoever they hook around and make it impossible to actually shoot the fucker, stay still for a second you adhd movementfag
>>559024762Bebop's hook is a skillshot while Holliday's is--Wait, they made the lasso a skillshot? And if you miss it it doesn't refund?
>>559024972Completely agree about RemHe's ludicrously overpowered while also having a very low skill floor.He needs a nice strong nerf in the face.
>>559024972>and can starve the enemy team of sinners without even being present, which are so pivotal to snowballingthe rems that get put on my team only steal OUR sinners, never the enemy ones
>Try Holliday because Crackshot with a revolver is basically a DMR playstyle>Crackshot is dogshit and everyone plays her as a spirit poker because lol barrels>Not to mention how fucking AIDS hitting headshots as consistently as Crackshot wants you to is in a game where everyone has tiny heads and spastic movement>Give up>Venator comes out>Triple shot satisfying crossbow ult but with a kit that's actually fun to play and use outside of thatHow is this hero so based? I still want Yoshi to take Crackshot off of Holliday and put a variant of it on a new, better hero.
>>559025286>doing a sinner in our jungle>the 0/9 Rem runs up, screams "MINE" on voice and breaks it wasting the buff
>>559025382Holliday is a fucking mess, what a gigantic waste of a cowboy(girl) and revolver character.Only the most delusional are ok with her design.
HOW DO I STOP WANTING TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF WHEN I LOSE AS 22/5 VENATOR
>>559021456twitter people are very puritan for some reason
>>559025263his pillows also hurt in lane, but i'd unironically be fine with everything about him if there was just some counterplay with the helpershelper creep is also strong, stronger than grave's ult in terms of "enhanced wave" abilities, but again, they become these unkillable walls of flesh because of the scaling and sinner snowballing he can do completely for free
>fed drifter jumps me as mirage while im shoving waves>tornado out and ult to base since he has no hard cc to stop meWas that a waste?
>>559025636Provide more utility to your teammates instead of chasing frags all match?
>>559021932>>559025669total twigger death
>make a door behind their walker to throw some bells>teammate instantly slide jumps into it and gets destroyed
>>559025382If you're not consistently hitting headshots that's a skill issue(I don't actually play Holliday either because she's ass)
>>559025773Saving one death seems worth it for mirage ult
Rem will never get nerfed because he's a heckin borkin floofy chonker wholesome chungus boi for FAGGOOOOTSSSS
>>559020454That's a 19 year old CHILD, you sick fuck...
>>559024972Rem barely needs to interact with the enemy team outside of teamfights, Helpers is the most deranged ability in the game by far, it autowins lane against any character that can't deal with them fast enough, it gives him safe farming and map pressure, at least Graves yells her retarded ult loudly and it gets a minimap icon
>>559025907sorry bro I'm 30
>>559025968>Guilty Gear profile pictureMan I feel so sad for fighting game fags.
>>559025968>Guilty Gear avatar
My MMR assassins for today, both in the same game: a guy trying Pocket for the first time on 150 ping and a stoner Seven with 7 deaths in lane.
i don't know how much mo i can take of these archon games where the matchmaking is never fair, it's never an even match between two equally teams and it always boils down to smurfs stomping
>>559025907>Two headshots on a target walking in a straight line who didn't know you were there>Bodyshot central the instant Holliday is in combat with someone who knows she's thereproving my point reallyI would like you to send me a video of you playing headshot Holliday against an Abrams who is actively playing the game. If he's not looking dead on at you he functionally has no head hitbox.>>559025621there are redditors right now who think Crackshot fits fine in her kit despite her kit in general being nearly Mirage-level sloppy
Rem getting Unstoppable on ult should be T3, not T2.
>>559026510if Lash doesn't get Unstoppable despite having a much harder to hit ult, then Rem shouldn't get it at all
>>559025773As a professional Dynamo solo ulter, I can tell you that it's not a waste.
>>559024425>Oh no someone on 4chang knows my IPWhat are they going to do rape me?
I LOVE DEADLOCK (I LOST)
>>559025773if it's early in the game and an objective won't die if you do, then it's a bit of a silly useif it's lategame, worth
>>559020120It seals away her wicked powers...
>>559026634>>559025925Got it, thanks guys. This whole map TP is pretty nifty
>>559026028helpers get icons as well, but yes, they're fucking stupidlet's also not forget how good is base gun is out the gate, especially for a supportpaige has to aim with a projectile, viscous has to aim with a projectile doorman has to aim with a projectile, dynamo has to aim with a projectile. rem? it's projectile-looking hitscan gun with 61dps out the gate. what the FUCK were they thinking? his gun base stats beat out mirage, shiv, haze, viscous, and infernus. he's practically tied with seven. it baffles me how he got pushed as is.
Strange things happening in Oracle.
>Rem helpers limited to 2>Only attatch to lane creeps for 30 seconds>weaker initial stats on lane creeps with stronger spirit scaling, making them good lateral but worse early>Take a longer nap after completing their tasks>Sleep no longer unstoppable>Naptime no longer gives increased spirit power>Can now throw pillows from nap time as a T3 perkIs this good balance without shitting rem into the toilet?
>>559026087>>559026436I'm 34 and headshots in this game are easy as fuckCrackshot does fit in Holliday's kit in that it's designed to be a poke ability (which is why it scales with spirit, not gun) but that doesn't mean that Holliday's kit isn't retarded.
>>559026983LET HIM COOK
>>559021206The first dude with the pistol actually didn't look completely terrible at it.
>>559027020No.Mmmmm maybe.No.Maybe.No, he's still far too squishy for that shit.Maybe.Fuck no.
so what you're saying is that i should play rem to get into oracle
>>559027083>Quantum physics is easy as fuck, you're just a retard>t. Uncle Ted with 160 IQ and at U of M as an 8 year old
>>559026983Oracle is the goofiest rank for some reason, the variance between games is immense with the only constant being that nobody knows what to do past laning stageLike, how am I supposed to process my Drifter diving three people to the blue walker at minute 8 and coming out alive?
can't wait for an unranked mode i just wanna be a retard
Why are people saying Doorman's damage falls offIt literally only gets better the longer the game goes, once you get boundless and spirit burn/mystic reverb youre golden.
>>559026983>1/5More like just glass.
>>559027178>Too squishyBro just go behind a wall because it works THROUGH WALLS. No one is shooting you through a wall
>>559024972Pretty much all the new heroes are like this. They output absurd damage, and overall value, with exceptionally low skill requirements compared to other heroes with equal output.
>>559026983I like how when people feed they run it down, they're not happy with dying 10 times they need to go 1/20 at least and be almost the only player the other team killed
If Ivy picks up an ulting MoKrill does the target also get picked up or does it cancel his channel
I had an Abrams in my game getting titled from me landing a single cart+door combo on Doorman calling me sweaty, told him I have than 10 games on him. Died several more times after. Anyway since I was just bing chilling learning this character I tried to get him to relax but he wouldn't have it. He said he had 70hrs which I emphasized with (I have 300), I told him to just focus on farming and coming back. He was mad the rest of the game but his team won and I think he had fun in the end since he typed "AHAHAHAHA".But Volvo should do something with MM, people with 70hrs who obviously already have their hands full learning laning and matchups shouldn't play with "veterans". Also smurfs, every game has at least one, Archon is truly a clown fiesta.
>>558993959SEXOOOOO (and then she drugs and robs me)
>>559027997Learned that one in philly
>>559027997>drugs and robs>implying shed waste good hooch on some easy score nah, shed just shank ya
>>559027779at this rate of getting rank boosted to archon 6 i just have to play one game a week and i'll be in eternus in a few months
>>559028345BASED BASED BASED
>>559028345Lash is one of my favorite teammates to have by far
I enjoy playing Calico, she's fun. I've only been playing like 3 days but I love how she really is like a cat. You get in, cause hell, get out. You've got 9 lives.
is there a solid movement tutorial that actually shows how to chain everything together?everything i come across is just re-explaining the same concepts
I lost 10 games in a row today. Almost every game went like this.Do I need to stop playing for a week not to get matched against people at my or higher skill level while my team consists of people not knowing how to move or spend more time flaming than playing?
>>559028718its too bad she's hideous to look at
>>559028771that's why you play late game scaling heros if you're still losing on late game scalers go learn jungle/sinner rotations
>>559028809Her design is the best part. She's like Bazz from Concord's cousin or something. She's so ridiculous she loops right back around to being fun.
>"Let me try learning doorman">behind in souls>struggling to place doors>cant land my carts>keep messing up vacuum grenade -> cart -> doorHe has some of the coolest abilities, but it's such a pain to master.
>>559028809https://gamebanana.com/mods/627579*unwokeifies calico*
>>559029017I was playing Silver. Had a really good lane and mid game until they all started grouping up while 2 of our players were just running down mid and spent more time dead than alive. Can't solo win when the enemy just deathballs every objective.
>>559028751Do you mean something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9OYr2jjAj0 where it just shows you a route and expects you to figure it out or do you want like a step by step list of what's going on.
I get Silver pretty consistently even without token now
>>559029305try trophy collector
>>559029550same. It's odd. I wonder why.
>>559029550>>559029448because anyone with a braincell knows that you just pour cc on silver when she jumps in and she instadies
>>559029305Don't bother learning him. He doesn't scale and the only fun is carting someone to your base via a door or refresher ulting someone to stop them from playing the game.He is an actual grief pick for both teams.
Is it normal to fall behind on souls as Silverclearing the underground tier 2s or tier 3s is so hard on her I just ignore them
Is Geist a solid pick to learn? Hag sexo
what a tight gmae, holy shit, 4-5 bosses swapped
>Lose before the game starts>Because team doesn't have any m1sLovely game.
>my team feeds the entire game>they also erp with the other team in allchat all game about being lesbian
>>559029771are you good at aiming?
>>559029646I'm actually so fucking sick of all the fun heroes being nerfed into oblivion, fuck it, nerf everybody at this point
>>559029810also holy shiti was ritualist 2 weeks agonow im playing with my phantom 2 friend on mcginnismanaged to win now im archon 2maybe ranks rly are meaningless
Great game, love it when the matchmaking places 2 feeders in the same lane as drifter.
>>559030018>maybe ranks rly are meaninglessThey are, it's literally impossible to rank down, just read any post about a noob that got placed in shit like oracle and them proceeding to get 25% winrates but not going down ranks at all
>>559030125ive been winning for some reason
>have a few good games>yoshi immediately dispatches drunk russians to the next 10 games i playI don't get it, do I just stop playing? It's not fun coming out of lane and seeing the two enemy hypercarries be 10 2 and knowing you're about to play a 45 minute loss
After reaching Archon, the amount of lanes that end up hard feeding or losing Walkers at 10 minutes has skyrocketed in my games, I'm not really sure how this logic works
>play dashfernus>one dash does 50% of enemy hp and I don't even need los of themheh
>>559030272surrenders should be a thing.
>>559027714the worst part is even when you run it down your retarded faggot teammates are still gonna comb waves but at least it'll end 10 minutes faster
>>559014801Agreed. They have shit taste.Sex with REM.
>>559030454because the way mm works your lobbies have people far above and far below the match rank
>>559030530watch out you're about to get swarmed with adderall addicts who will adamantly insists ff votes are bad because there's a 0.00001% chance yakub mind controls the enemy hypercarries into dying 15 times and leaving you to take all objectives for free
>>559029305Place doors ahead of time. One of my favorites is a door in midlane and one next to the shrines, so you have an easy escape if they go o you and don't have to move as far for the shrine blast. If one of them follows you through the door you can close it and they're alone and dead.Actually baiting people in the doors is generally pretty easy because at all ranks people will get tunnel vision for kills and end up alone in the middle of your team
>>559027498>>559027714
I asked Yoshi to stop rank boosting us all. And he said: >You're going to rank up so much. You're going to get tired of ranking up. You're going to say, "Please Mr. Yoshi, I barely play. Please, don't rank me up so much. This is getting terrible." And I'm going to say, "No, we have to accomodate the new players." You're gonna say, "Please." I said, "Nope, nope. You're going to keep ranking up."
>>559030272Stop playing for a while, Valve has EOMM in their games. If you keep losing, the matchmaking will think you're perfectly fine being a cuck loser and mark your account to be farmed. Same shit in Dota
>>559030889I like that they have the EOMM algorithms despite the game having no monetization or retention mechanics (yet)God this game is going to be so fucking terrible when the battle passes and skins become a thing
i want a hero like star lord from marvel rivals
>>559029434This is probably the most garbage skin mod i;ve seen yet, even low effort gonner garbage is atleast not so anime coded
>>559030987>God this game is going to be so fucking terribleit's an icefrog game, it's bound to be abysmal dogshit, you all knew what you signed up for when you installed it.
>>559031031Infernus bro, he's the m1gger with the most aura
is enhanced eternal gift the most broken legendary? if you get it round 3 and it goes to 5 you basically get infinite of every stat
>>559030454The conclusion I reached is that a lot of people climb by building up bad habits and playing for snowballing so you got a guy going 0/8 in lane because playing agressive like that got him fed in some other game.
>>559031031We need less flying heroes in this game!
I wish Exploding Uppercut did something more interesting than just minor damage and a slow knockback
>>559029771in low low ranks you can run bomb build and get 2k damage per minute, in higher ranks you need gun build though so you need to be good at aiming her revolver
>>559031409No, we need more flying heroes that are hard countered by anvil and phantom strike. I love ruining Talon's day
I do enjoy the game as is, but is there anyone else whos bummed from the fact that Valve didnt make a single player game with this lore/world instead? Occult noir Deus ex clone as themost low hanging fruit for example
>>559031629I want to make them anything with it honestly, I'm a sucker for settings like that and i will consume any media they could shit out
I wonder if my recent losses are based in part on my reluctance to play the new heroes
>>559031629single player games don't make money anymore, get with the times grandpa. Every game must be EOMM MOBA PVP 5V5 ASSFAGGOTS slop of some kind to monetize adderall addicted teenagers for skin money
>>559031358This is it. It's the same in every other MOBA, usually shortly after the 50th percentile rank you hit a wall of incredibly volatile players who either stomp or get stomped, never anything in between.
>>559031629They wouldn't be able to put battle passes and skins and crates in a single player game. The closest we'll get is the Deadlock visual novels, if those haven't been canned
>>559031784As if its a priority for valve to make money, they can literally print them for free.They did have a single player RPG in the dota world at some point, but it got scrapped, maybe they will reuse some stuff one day to make a Deadlock game
The Hidden King reminds me of these guys.
>>559032046Now that you've mentioned it, yeahHe really does
>>559031784they're literally making one of the biggest singleplayer games ever right now
>>559031978stop coping, it will never happen, the last singleplayer game valve made was alyx and they will not make another one when they can just generate even more infinite money with live service gaas slop. >>559032143HLX is massively overhyped and will be a massive disappointment because valve forgot how to make singleplayer games after steam removed any need for them to actually try.
Deadlock 1.0 and Half Life 3 will both be Steam Machine launch titles, trQs the plQn...
is it just me or does vin *feel* like she provides no value even when you objectively are providing resultsi think i just focus on the missed snipes too hard
>>559032224Given how they quite literaly given up properly monetizing Dota or CS, outside of selling cases, lietrally removing the battlepasses, which they themselves invented, really cannot agree with you
>>559032224If they cared that much about cashflow they would have kept milking dotards with TI battlepasses, but they stopped that even when the playerbase was begging them to provide more slop to pay for.
/dlg/ objective hero tierlist?
>>559032391She's been massively nerfed compared to 2024lockIf Talon and/or Vindicta were in your enemy lane it was ggs for you
>>559032735S - The LashA - Anyone whos not a guntardF - GuntardsG(arbage) - Bebop
why do we need priority token bs just let us pick 1,2,3...n heros
>Doorman completely loses his shit over mic>Apollo died once and apparently that was enough for him to go crazy>Abandons lane and crashes out over mic>Everyone tells him to stop being gay>Everyone is really nice to Apollo over mic whenever he does something good>We winda powa of friendship
>>559032937Buttblasted lash main angry that bebopgods hook him out the air and shove bombs down his hairy bussy
The Lash was caught with terabytes of ‘P
I really really really hate aiming in this game, what hero should I pick that isn't paige/graves?I only ever liked viktor so far, but i need 2 more picks for le 3 heroes rule. How aim-heavy is venator?
>>559033075heartwarming, thank you anon
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I FUCKING LOVE BEING FORCE 50'D
>>559033337>How aim-heavy is venator?Very, even if you're doing the melee memebuild you need to be able to shoot people when you're shits on CD or when fighting somewhere you can't get wallstuns.
>>559033337Seven requires some aiming but I shit on people with a ball lightning build. His 3 is really strong but you can just target people you stunned and if you can't aim at a stationary target you should go back to hello kitty island adventure
>>559028345tranny heroes for people who can't aim
>>559033861>tranny heroes for people who can't aim>all the trannies are obsessed with movementslop shootersMake it make sense
>3 infernus in a row that leave the game after the smallest mistakewhy is it so common
>gun graves kills me>hit her with a "nice aim" on allchat
>Haze doing less damage than everyone on the teamWhen can I get an avoid teammate option so I don't have to play with shitters like this ever agian
abrams is so fuckin fun lmao10k souls lead apollo my ass
>>559034262>they hit you back with "thanks i almost had to look at my screen"
>>559034560they call him the buckbreaker of ixia
>>559034560I don't feel any shame in playing a blatantly OP character anymore
all you guys do is piss shit and whine matchmaking is bad and has always been bad just accept your lose and joymax
>>559031629The Occult 20-40s New York theme is really good but Valve is already ruining that setting and the game's not even out yet. Most of this new batch of heroes doesn't fit at all.
enemy mina: unkillableme mina: die in 2 hitswhy
gay sex with apollo
>>559035110hyperfarm and get a soul lead so crazy that they can't kill you before you nuke themrake lets you clear camps in record time & lets you enter every fight topped off by just healing off a camp/wave beforehandabuse the ever living shit out of your iframes
>>559035024Eh. its more like 40-60s. Imo only ones that dont fit 100% is Rem, whos just a werid guy who would fit in any setting, and Graves because its too early for the goth stuff, but there wasnt literal necromancy irl so i would let it slide
>>559035504Graves isn't even traditional "goth," she's mid 2000's Mindless Self Indulgence Hot Topic goth. I know because I was in HS at the time and there were many of her around. Calico, Billy, Apollo, Yamato, etc also don't fit. It's more broadly American culture but it should be reined in as the occult noir theme it clearly was meant to be
Who do I play if I want easy wins?
Rigged games of strip poker with Wraith
A lot of the voices/VAs dont fit their character model, anyone else feel this?
>>559035889Yamato has an excuse of not being finished, not sure whats wrong with Apollo
>>559033861Found the Vindicta who got swatted.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Cg21gSnVMAg
Restorative shot is just a meme right? It's just not practical to shoot a hero every 6s and never miss and never waste it on a troop, and it's better to get healing rite or extra regen in 99% of cases... right?
>>559035941warden looks like a british bobby but talks like soldier tf2, but other than that no
>>559036000Apollo is fine but he's very much not 1920's america. Certainly not 60's like you said. The point isn't if the characters look cool or not, it's if they fit a central theme
I just started playing again after early build and I can never climb out of lower ranks. 1 out of 5 games I get people who actually want to play so I just bounce around in lower ranks forever.
>>559035941Only Vyper.
>>558996967That's pretty cool disabled representation! I'm glad Valve is making the cast so diverse!
>>559036095It's good if you are playing a hero with good bullet velocity, like Venator, Haze, Mina, Seven, etc.
>>559036095Unless you're playing Graves. You can outheal a 3v1 if you split shot the mob wave in the middle of the fight.
>>559035941Silver's drawl gets me rock hard, so I have no complaints
>>559036193same. I feel like I need to make a new account or something. Apparently people playing for the first time are getting into fucking oracle and shit. so annoying.
>>559036095if you always hit an npc on cooldown then it's basically 2,5hp per second, 8,3hp if you hit a hero on cd, so you'll probably get like 4hp regen on average
>>559036193110 hours and still in Arcanist
>>559036150I still dont understand what makes apollo not fit either.Hes wearing fencing gear that has been the same for like ever, certinely fits anywhere within 30s-60sAnd a varsity jacket, which have been a thing since late 1800s
>kelvin perma slows me for the rest of the game thanks to a bugwe still won but it was annoyingdelete that gay hero
>>559036630I will concede if you can find me 3 characters from a noir detective program or comic in fencing gear
>>559017810
>>559036935we're going to need a Counterspell 2 at the rate we're going, we can't make every other ability a must dodge or you die
>>559017986Finally. One less Holligay throwing my match. You fuckers do nothing.
>>559036885So your complaint is that he isnt ripping something directly off? So the only reason why Abrams is okay is because hes a blue Hellboys?
>>559037071If your whole team gets hit by an aoe ult, that's on them. We're on a 3D plane so it's much harder to hit a team winning aoe than other mobas
Why the FUCK do so many heroes have AOE zone control shit. Holy fuck man it's like 2/3rds of them.
why billy has a goat head
>>558993959>imageDO NOT get close to the snake, or you will get stabbed and lose BOTH of your kidneys.I repeat, DO NOT get close to the snake.
let's see who's still standin'
>>559037338To make him sexier
>>559037338it's a sensitive topic man
>>559037340She's nowhere near smart enough to get into organ trafficking, she'll just take whatever's in your pockets and pawn it.
>>559037562>organ traffickingShe's just doing it for fun.
>>559037209>Glasses>Haircut>Facial hair>Exagerated square jaw>High collared trench>Big ass 6 shooter>Backstory of being hardnose detective>Voice sounds like and has lines of drizzled NYC detectiveALL are very reminiscent of the noir style. How the fuck is Abrahms blue hellboy? Are you retarded or blind? You're using THE most noir styled character to compare to some fencing twink from england
Apollo is a rich private school kid who was taught fencing because that's what rich niggers do. It's not that complex and it fits in the lore.
>>559037676I just dont understand how Apollo not being a reference to some specific Noir trope, makes him not fit the setting
>>558999053>enemy rem shows upto team fight>drops 1200 bagCOOL!
>>559005806>buy counterspell>forget to use it>forget to use it>forget to use itTales from Phantom.I wish Street Brawl had a guaranteed counterspell choice at the start or something so I could play games all day using it.
>>559027473>bellmanAt that point you may as well just play talon or sinclair.
>>559007108eh depends how it hits it can be a 2s stun if you're up high
>>559038080Didn't mean to quote that, meant this>>559036935Enjoy your (You) anyway
Venator mains owe me this
>>559037910>BackpeddlingHe fits as well as Yamato. Calico actually fits more because she's classic American blackploitation. Paradox too because she's Scottish, but fits a british spy aethetic that was popular in US culture. Maybe you're a brownoid who think America has no culture or something but I can assure your brown mind Apollo certainly sticks out as bad as Yamato
How do I properly counter spell a lash ult? What cue should I be looking for?
>>559029108I honestly think Bazz' design was fine it just doesn't fit the super realism 3d game they made. If the game was more stylized or cartoony like deadlock or battleborn she would've looked better. Shoulderpads and shoes are a bit much but otherwise she looks completely fine.
>>559038438the rope is on you
>>559038438after the first *DING* should work most of the time, if the Lash has a brain then he'll start delaying it a bit and fuck you over tho, so be prepared
>>559038417The setting has nothing to do with noir fiction. The primary inspiration for the period being what it is is obviously the Cthulhu mythos.>Maybe you're a brownoid who think America has no culture or somethingShould've known you're a culture war poltard.
>>559038417Retarded post. There is nothing wrong with Apollo in regards to fitting the setting.
>>559038438There's a huge exclamation point on you when lash can death slam on you, most lash players won't hold it so you can generally counter spell by the 1st or 2nd ring because the parry duration is fairly generous.
>>559038593Never been to pol, it's just obvious you're brown when you type shit like "hes a hellboys." You're straight from a kitboga video
>>559038417>Everyone in my noir setting needs to be a chain smoking detectiveRetarded. They're doing supernatural-noir and building up to be it's own thing.
>>559038852I accept your concession Sukhdeep.
>>559039128you are talking to 3 different people
NOO
Apollo is fucking terrible they need to buff him badly
>>559039260Would be more sense for her to be in Dubai
patch tomorrow?
>>559039376shes a vampire, shed be in israel
>>559034802desu yeahthis guy isn't balancedi especially like smashing celeste players with him try to bunnyhop out of ult into heavy > charge > heavy > headshot bitchfinal fight I went epstein mode in their base just now (the full fight was too long to fit in a 4mb webm)
I miss the old pre match stand-off and the old music.
They need to add a post game lobby so I can shit talk my garbage teammates and transgender sweaty enemies without having to pause the game at the end.
>>559039203I'm the original arguer. YOU are talking to 3 people lol lmao
>go on a winstreak>next day>9 losses in a rowi've had 4 new players in my lane in the last 9 matches, EOMM is real.If I see my teammate being non existent in lane and then say ''im new'' when i ask them one more time I'm going to go nuclear.
>>559017628Quote from man who cant aim.
>>559039517you could even play the before match voicelines there and quickly sort out your buildnow you are just locked in the cinematic
>>559039513Love me abrams. I think a big part is that a lot of newer players just aren't used to parrying, I've been throwing out heavies outside of stuns and they connect like 90% of the time. I don't even bait them anymore it's getting bad.
what race are you guys
thanks venator
>>559038593>accuses anon who says the black character is a good design and good African American design at that of being a culture war poltard Retard alert
>>559039930he didnt know punching apollo during the ult would make him float around and neither did i
>>559039953stop samefagging
>>559039930Everytime I see a webm I check if I recognize any of the names in it.
>>559040074>N-no one agrees with you! You're samefagging!Okay carlos
>>559039930Based.
>>559039930Being able to hold the ult for that long with that retarded animation (or lack thereof) surely can't be intentional
>>559039804Abrams is like a Fighting game's Grappler, the threat of him punching you puts overwhelming pressure on the player, so they tunnel vision on it and end up 'exhausting' themselves if the punch is delayed too much
>>559028345>Clearly misses Vindicta >She gets dragged down with him anyway a second later
>>559039804>>559039513how do you counter abrams?just learn to parry?
>>559040469You can hold it indefinitely, it's pretty funny sometimes
>>559040506yeah, but if he stuns you you can't parry also u can get debuff reducer or whatever its called and he no longer pins u enough to guarnatee a heavy, until he gets extended duration, then he does again with phantom strike this hero isn't balanced lmao, you have a guarnateed stun on any of their chars no matter what, that item is literally made for abrams, feels amazing once you buy it
>>559040482it's harder to miss the charge than it is to hit them
>>559040506Depends.>melee moron retard monkey man just holding QRebuttal and some basic anti heal like decay should do it>an actual abrams build like gun or siphon maxingHeavy amounts of anti heal, debuff reduction and resist shreds. Toxic bullets, inhibitor, crippling headshots, decay are all good picks.Curse of course is the counter to everything and especially fucks spirit abrams since siphon is a buff, so he can pop siphon and you can just shut it off, just like victor. Also realizing that he plays around space and trying to control it yourself is good as well.
>>559034560cc is a must in this game it's not even funny
>>559040656every single ability hitbox in deadlock is generous and extended by default, I assume its intentional, celeste 3 will still hit you if you're out of the ring just barely
Does Metal Skin do anything against Drifter and Silver?
>play low winrate hero>lose constantlyHave we gotten to the meta point yet or am I just too shit to carry a 43% w/r
>>559040839Which character? I'd say yes, we have hit the meta point>enough characters that you should be able to have three back to back matches without seeing the same characters again>still see the same characters outside of the new 6I'd say we hit this way back in 2024 even, honestly.
Guys I need help. I'm totally 'in love' with a fictional character.... Graves in fact. I know it won't be an issue in few days and it will pass but holy fuck I cannot think of anything else right now. I had similar obsessions a couple of times in my life so I know I just need to get through it.
Are pick heroes fun?They look very team dependent which sounds un-fun, but the idea of swapping a carry into a death ball sounds very fun.
>>559041012and why would you post your virtual love getting fucked by her ixian boyfriend exactly
>>559041012If you're not gonna crop out Apollo's balls just post full
>>559041012you get off to watching your loved one get fucked by a twink?
>>559041092They can be but if you want an easier time as a pick character play mo and learn the majest leap combo technique.
>you can punch all 3 of these guys at once from this spotmy entire life up until now has been a liewhy do they keep shuffling the positions of neutrals for no reason anyways?
>>559040839Almost certainly both, there's definitely a meta of sorts in place but unless you're particularly high-ranked personal skill is still the the most important factor by a mile.
>>559041092Paradox is really fun, but playing her right now feels like an uphill battle, you really need to have at least one or two teammates you can use as 'anchors' so your pick attempts don't go to waste because the retard you were ganking for decided to do a t1 neutral with all of their cooldowns
>Play street brawl>Use all my cooldowns as apollo>Pop unstable condition>Nuke the airborne vindicta and walker>WinMan I love this mode.
>>559041184>why do they keep shuffling the positions of neutralsThey haven't moved neutrals since 2024, what do you mean
>>559041110Demon men are just built different
I'm just done with this game until there's a balance patch that nerfs Rem into being unplayably bad. Game is absolute fucking cancer right now and it's all because of that one hero.
>Enemy laners are clearly queued together and communicating>Teammate is a little bitch and shows zero aggressionI'm new, what do I do. I can't even step away for a little side farm or my tower just gets shit on.
How the fuck do you play against bebop? He doesn't even need to hook you, just go up put the bomb and 80% of your health is gone.
>>559019598He could use a little buff but he's really really good at being a piece of fucking shit and you should take advantage of that by buying shit like knockdown
>>559042392In lane if he apes at you to place a bomb just beat his ass, the bomb is all of his damage so once it's used you have no reason to respect him.Outside of lane debuff remover/counterspell the bombs or buy spellbreaker.
>>559018006nta but you're not wrong lmao
Is Abrams the only character that can go either gun/tank/spirit and perform well on all of them?
>how do i counter bebop and lash and apollo>oh just buy debuff remover and counterspell>okay but i counterspelled the lash ult so now i can't counterspell apollo or bebopnice game design
How easy it is to rapidly get to almost any place on the map is why this game is shit and will always be shit.They need to remove zipline boost. They need to reduce zipline availability (ex: lines should end way earlier). They need to remove momentum on ziplines too.No one should be able to jump off a zipline and go halfway if not MORE across the map before they hit the ground.Takes any depth from map positioning and map control away.
>>559019430kino
>>558994505>90% of the items are statsticks, upgrading abilities just give more stats.You could say the same about this game. The non-statstick items are generally underused and underpowered.The best course of action to win is just inflate your stats.
Just saw a Warden on my team genuinely cry on voice chat after being disarmed and killed lmao I was laughing so much I didn't even mind losing
>>559042679>wow I can't buy an item that makes me immortal?!?!?!?
Why is Decay a core item on Shiv?
>>559041274I came back after not playing for a long time and it is definitely my favorite, h8 farming, love brooling
>>559042683>Anon lacks object permanence so he cant account for the enemies he cannot see, anon should just go play league instead
>>559042854Really good for rage gain.
>>559042854builds his rage meter
>>558998417I'm still taller than her
>>559042776the only pure statscticks are tier 1s, spirit upgrades, and bullet/spirit resilience
>>559042838Sounds rather in-character
>>559042679Reading the HUD so you don't walk into a 1v3 (all 3 ults up) is free
>>559042854Good damage for rageSpirit item so you get investement bonusesNice statsAnti heal is always good and having more buffs that need to be debuff removed before you get all your knives in them is niceAlso it has good range that scales with spirit so you can throw it from afar to build rage before getting into mid range for knife shenanigans and then closing in on the kill.
>play drifter>buy superior duration>win every fight
>>559042392spirit shielding in lanecounterspell outside of it
>>559041012please don't give me link I have already orgasmed 4 times tonight
>>559042878Faggot that should kill himself that you are, NO fucking MOBA has ever had "cross the entire map in under a few seconds" unless you include fucking teleports which only take you back to base and takes 5-10 seconds (depending on the game).You are just a subhuman tranny.
>>559043492Deadlok's lines are literally just an adaptation of Dota's teleports.Leage of Legends generally hates any non-rightclick movement, thats why its all so gimped
>>559042679counterspell is literally the best item in the game regardless, though
It costs too much to fit in all the defensive items you need against a balanced gun/spirit team.
>>559043482
>JUST BUY SPIRITBREAKER>JUST BUY COUNTERSPELL>JUST BUY METAL SKIN>JUST BUY DISARMING HEX>JUST BUY SLOWING HEX>JUST BUY KNOCKDOWN>JUST BUY CURSEokay but what about my damage
the matchmaking in this game is so dogshitwhy do you put dynamo lash and abrams all on one teamthe only way they lose is if they are retards and feed, otherwise it's a guaranteed win against an uncoordinated team of solos
>>559043849just aim better?
>>559043849All of that just to make one (1) OP hero on their team "just okay"
>>559043829lady geist is also fucking apollo cause she's freaky like that
>>559043849none of that will counter the fact that there is a 3/22 retard on your team
Best Drifter public build?
>>559043849you will love longer enabling you to deal more damagealso the purple items still give spirit power
>>559043849>SPIRITBREAKER
btfod
>>559043849Damage is dishonest.
>>559044262Apollo truly is the 4chan hero
>>559044262How are you supposed to act when you're being set up to be el presidente?
>>559043492what are you talking about?League had teleport be a summoner spell and dota has had teleport scrolls since foreverStop posting.
>>559044041
>>559043492Dota teleport scrolls can go to any structure, not just to baseNature's prophet has global tpPretty sure puck has a global tp now (haven't played in a while)Pitlord had global, aoe tp for him and any allies to any allied structure, creep or other heroPretty much you're a dumb fuck
>>559044357idk maybe get a real personality
Does Venator's grenade's healing reduction stack with him if he uses toxic bullets too?
incredible rage
>>559044405Can you not read FAGGOT holy shit
>>559044583This won't get fixed until after the yamato remodel so it's best to just let go.>when is the yamato remodel happening?About a month before the open beta release.
>>559044420Kill yourself
>>559044675Teleport didn't take you to base it took you to any ward, minion or turret still standing :)Now stop posting.
>>559044130>>559044130>>559044130>>559044130anybody?
why are people so fucking obsessed with the jungle in this game to the point where they ignore entire creep waves marching down?
>>559044872nigga just use the tracklock builds they're legit
>>559044872deadlockmeta.com is literally in the op posts for a reason
>full health Mo&Krill runs to give the 20hp Geist a hug>she heals to full and kills him>this is somehow my fault
>>559044872I don't know that's why I didn't answer. Supposedly ABL's is good but I'm not sure, I've not played much of drifter.
>>559044991i hate all silver downplayers
>>559044907Fear of even glimpsing an enemy in the lane before they are 100% kitted out with a 20k soul lead
How tf are we supposed to learn multiple heroes when every game is 30min+If I dont get my priority hero i'm pulling nails for the next half hour
>>559044701>About a month before the open beta release.Is this confirmed? That's gonna be a while isn't it?
Apollo truly sucks ass if the enemies bother to buy spirit resilience and/or spellbreaker. Sure he's still hard to catch and kill unless you have slowing hex and burst him but his damage output gets cucked into nothingness if you bother to buy the right greens.I have to assume the people who cry about Apollo nonstop in these threads have just never bought a resistance item in their lives. He peaks like right after lane and then falls off super hard by the endgame unless people just ignore green items altogether.
>>559045027The amount of times I've seen a lady geist that's low health get forced into a corner by people with range but then getting saved by a close quarters fighter realizing he's not doing optimal DPS jumps in and just gives her his healthbar. It's always a billy.
>>559044795No I don't think I will :^)You're wrong BTW :^)
>>559043492Although youre crashing out like a tard I actually agree.Ziplines need to be slower or not have boost every 2 minutes, need to be like every 5Its just too easy for someone to clear an entire wave, push a lane, and zip boost to the opposite side of the map to already be at the fight
>>559045163>muh eceleb tier listsI'm perfectly happy to hate you right back
>>559041351you haven't been paying attention then, all sorts of camps keep having their positions moved around.these guys for example got moved close enough to punch all 3 at once as well.the triple hard camps on the edges also got fucked with recently.
>>559045490>or not have boost every 2 minutes, need to be like every 5Nobody tell him
>>559031358I'm the idiot going 0/2 or 0/3 in lane because when I solo queue I always get to play with the dogshit retard who just installed the game and decided to play with his ascendant boyfriend so I have to babysit this moron 1v2 who is basically just jerking off under tower, not hitting shit (except the healing creep when we're full HP) and following you like a dog for the rest of the game to make sure he can soak up the maximum souls possible.It's easy to feed if you assume your mates are not useless fucks and will actually play the game. I actually stopped picking billy in soloQ because half the time you initiate a fight your team just fucking leaves you and go farm jungle without saying anything.>Oracle lobbies
>>559045410>It's always a billy.I have a theory fueled by an ESL's speculation that William is Geist's child
>>559045163how many times do we need to do this>bad in low elo>bad in mid elo>bad in high elo>bad in pro playsilver is bad
>>559046158You just have to ignore her lane phase and every single CC that disables her and her 2 stamina and hit every single item counter and she can totally win 1v1s against random morons in the jungle
do you ever have a match that makes you question lifeyou carry the team so hard that they say in voice chat >thank you for the carryeveryone with 10+ deaths meanwhile i had 1fucking unreal
>>559045163>enemy team has 0 brain>enemy team is far behindSilver OP>enemy team has brain>enemy team has mobile charactersSilver is useless
>>559046441funnily enough that's what her description says kek>She is insane, however she is vulnerable to everything
i dont think ive ever seen a doorman do anything impactful in a match. honestly i didnt even know that teleportation spell was his ultimate, it's like it does nothing
>>559045404he really falls off hard late. menace early on though especially if he gets to snowball
>>559046605her swipes are checked against melee resistance?
>>559046556I had an Infernus on my team go 0/5/4, then somehow lock in and get a 20 kill streak
>>559045410Because Billy is always allowed to rush in and never get punished for it.
warden is so fucking boring, I'm about to remove this cunt from my roster
It's so cool that the devs ignore most bug reports and feedback, it's like they just don't care.
>>559044262>wow I can't believe that the Prince of Ixia, literally the child destined to rule over an entire country and race, is intensely focused on his country and raceis Infernus retarded?
>>559046695melee resist cucks her human 2 and wolf 1 and 2, while metal skin cucks the rest of her kit
>>559046725>placeholder model>likely placeholder voice acting too>no interactions with any other characters>>559046826they only care if the feedback is from streamers
>>559046826>he says on a sunday night
I feel like all I do late game as mina is fly around and be useless.
>Game keeps giving me survey questionsAlways answer: Celeste is too weak and Silver is too strongDon't worry /dlg/ I got you.
>>559046938you need to ult burst someone down or just be an annoying mosquito in fights
>>559047058But her ult does tickle damage
>>559046970Gigabased
>>559047162and it also causes silence
>>559047225I don't think anon understands the value of silencing key characters in a teamfight.
>>559047648>>559047648
>>559046605I think it's like some kind of sunk cost fallacy at this pointThey know that if they admit she's not that good, they'll look like fools
>>559047162Late game it doesn't when you're fed and you have it at T3 AND you land it on one target aloneCheck who has the least spirit resistance and try to burst them down. Alternatively crush someone like Apollo/Lash/Calico/whoever relies on abilities to get out and silence chain them to death
>>559046970>how strong is [my main]1>how strong is [my main's counter]5that was a good survey
>>559046970Sorry anon, but the Eternus mafia has decided that Silver will get buffs and Celeste will get nerfs
>>559046876Oh goody, are these the same streamers who got mad that their OP hyper carry died a single time to a melee Ivy and cried to Yoshi?>>559046898I could say it every day of the week and it would still be the same
>>559046725>no explanationShitter detected
>>559047714>AND you land it on one target alonewait it spreads the damage across all targets?... oh...
Doorman players and techies players are the same retards trying their gimmick strat for 40min prove me wrong.
>>559047978>point>shoot>throw flask>shoot>shoot
>>559048624Yes, there's a fixed amount of bats released and they split between targets, including creeps
>>559000802DAUGHTER :)
>>559026271>stoner sevenPlease go further into detail what he did
>>559033130bebop molested me when I was 7
