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Patch is Out Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>559545442
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WRAITHGODS
DOORCHADS
PARABROS

EGGNIGGAS

WW@???????
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The removal of stomp Dynamo has killed my desire to play.

How dare a hero have two playstyles, right? Fuck me.
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>all those doorman buffs
YEAR OF THE DOORMAN
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>>559558308
Them basing 90% of their balance changes on the mood swings of pilled up tournament crackheads is going to kill this game
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wait wait wait wait, ivy's tether is now perma active? and they were crying about nerfs? fucking morons
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>>559558993
Silver because she will have to hide like a rat when ult pops.
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>>559559109
The bell tolls for the
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I'm oracle 2 bros I made it to the high ranks. Apollo fits me so well what a great character
>>559559097
Low skill trash build fuck you
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Sex with Venator
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played my first ever wraith game, she seems kinda fun :)
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>>559559109
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>Just started to get into Drifter
>Change everything about how he works
>Don't like him anymore
Fuck me I guess
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>Do my Splatter build on gooboy
>87k damage done
>Oppressive start to end
I fucking love it
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>Mina buffed
>Doorman buffed
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>trophy hunter
>egg
>cultist
me as rem doing nothing but sending my chuddy lil friends to sinners while i farm all the boxes in the map and then immediately dying and giving 3k souls to enemy team
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>instead of changing Celeste's overloaded abilities, they nerfed her movement
Why the fuck? That was the only fun part. Just change the shield and her ult
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So Lightning Scroll is actually good on Vindicta now, right?
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victor not balanced
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>>559559238
welcome to a shitfrog game, enjoy your stay
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DONT LISTEN TO ANY IVY DOWNPLAYERS
SHES INSANE WITH SPIRIT BEFORE AND EVEN BETTER NOW
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Kelvin, Calico and Mirage are fucking BORING
I will update the list as i play more characters
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>>559559165
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>>559559323
Just pick Pocket bro
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Why the fuck did they buff calico. I am permabanning this negress. She never has a bad game. NEVER.
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*cough cough*
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>open patch
>search bebop
>one line and it's not a nerf
do you think this is funny?
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>>559559315
they didn't even really fuck with her movement much
12 less air control and 6 less acceleration but ALSO she has 8% LESS gravity, making her floatier
its a fucking nothingburger and ALSO they gave her the ability to buy split shot which has potential
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>>559559315
Uh, you don't get to have "fun". Go grind ranked.
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I am actually unkillable with infinite tether.
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>>559559470
>dynamo
>buffed
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>>559559464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZa0Yh6e7dw
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Apollo's ult just did 1500 damage to me, and I had fucking spellbreaker

Literally what are these tard devs smoking. Every single change since old gods has been retarded
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>>559559342
Yeah, and her delay from casting Air Drop by taking damage is not that bad. If you can't get out of firing range for this long, you were probably never getting out to begin with.
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>>559559470
Yamato got nerfed, buddy.
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>>559559097
for me it's gun dynamo
they made an ability with dynamic usage into a generic defensive support tool you'd find in any other game
I like most of the other hero changes and I'm not a onetrick so I'll keep playing
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Isn't this completely insane? silencing someone until they fuck off from the AOE is extremely annoying.
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They're already increasing the power creep like crazy and the game is still in alpha.
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>>559559705
Enjoy the patch, you're gonna love this next one.
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>>559559705
skill issue
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im too stupid to understand these patch notes, can someone put it through the retard-o-matic so that simpletons like me can understand what has actually changed?
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>Rem can have 1v1 tunnel death matches with M&K now
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Pour one out for our sad pathetic embarrassing alcoholic wolfwife.
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>>559559464
Built to get impregnated and be left alone to raise her litter of werewolves
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>Shiv ult just jumps towards instead of targeted
Oh they killed Shiv, Shiv just found dead in the Bronx, “he was a good boy” -local patron
Also they changed viscous puddle punch like crazy, did it always scale this huge?
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I don't think you fellas realize The Lash is now able to do similar shit as Celeste with his 2 now
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>>559559778
Nice, time to try out that one build anon talked about like 2 days ago here
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>>559559938
It's all she's got left in life...
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>>559559464
writte anon if you see this i really need the good ending sequel after this....
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>>559559778
>tier 3 upgrade
>3 second silence at best
It's not that good. It complements the ability well but there's still easy counterplay.
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Friendly reminder that Silver is still OP and the downplayers are in for another pity party when she needs to be nerfed AGAIN lmao
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>egg is a must buy that you sell 50 minutes into the game late as fuck
>everyone's overpowered and has bullshit in their toolkit now
>silver nerfed

genuinely a weird as fuck patch
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>>559559778
they raped his ult
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>>559559705
Your counterspell?
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>>559559884
>can somebody eat this steak for me
Anon the whole point of games like these is to be an autistic hyperfocus
Just read that shit, it's fun and interesting
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>>559559884
>can someone put it through the retard-o-matic so that simpletons like me can understand what has actually changed?
sure, they changed a bunch of things to scale later and require skill investment for more intense gimmicks
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>This is all he gets
So I guess the retard devs think its ok hes able to nuke you for most if not all your health when the even dumber teammates feed him stacks and refuse to buy counterspell
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Lash...
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>patch completely nuked gameinfo.gi fps tweaks
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>559560184
i am reading it but man this shit is so fucking complex its hard to tell whats big changes and whats small changes
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>>559560115
>Friendly reminder that Silver is still OP
... and other such enlightening initiate insights
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shiv and silver race to sub 40% wr
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electroswingchads, I've restarted the game a couple of times but it seems as though he just wasn't added this one patch. Don't lose hope, though. I know one day he'll sneak his way into the game.
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>>559560210
learn 2 play
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>nado support mirage kinda nuked
>but now he has giga spirit scaling and default echo chard on t3
>AND traveler is actually broken as fuck now
i'll take it
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>those vindicta changes
they are ok i guess, losing the free fire rate sucks but being able to use counterspell in the air it's good
they need to return flight's duration scaling with spirit
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I recently picked up DL and cloaked in 90hrs already, maining mostly mina.

I come from shooter background (OW, TF2, CS) lost first matches and got placed at initiate where I maintained rank for about 40 hours maintaining stats appropriate for that level. But now I just dominated alch 2 as seeker. I'm pushing 75% wr from past 34 matches. Evan games that seem to be lost, i win. In most cases I'm free to do whatever I want as Mina and I bring impact in late game despite being squishy af

Part of it is I believe the fact that I now understand mechanics, strenghts of my hero, counter building each game etc. but I believe just as big part plays the fact that I do the damn objectives and farm on enemy's side whenever I can. There is so much chaos on these ranks that just staying consistant throughout the match, is enough to tip the scales.

I wonder where my rank will settle with that recent skill spike?

I'm playing with people who are on their second game overall. Who don't buy counters and opponents who don't understand that I'm is consistantly shutting them down with an item
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>>559560210
mhmmmmm yes let me just buy a 3.2k green items 5 minutes into the match and not get any damage items mhmmmmm yes
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>>559559097
>why can't my dynamo hit the enemies from base :( why do i have to get close now :,(,,
The nerfs were justified
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>ctrl + f "Gray Talon"
>0 results
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>>559559907
>REM
>1v1
>M&K
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so do i beam max or nade max first on kevin?
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Holliday's lasso looks so fucking shitty now in comparison to Wraith's new ult.
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Okay, so what is this "Silver is OP" psyop? She sucks in normal games and she sucks harder in pro play.
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>deadflop
>trannyflop
>deadcock
>trannycock
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>>559559315
they didn't nerf shit
air control got buffed for everyone so they toned hers down to bring it to what it should be with the new change
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>>559560349
>i come from a background pretending to be a woma-
discarded your blog don't care
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>wraith infinite ammo upgrade
honestly she is kinda fun to play if you stack firerate buffs like a caveman
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>>559560238
>practically inviting you to suck his pecs with his new parry
slut...
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>>559560345
The grace period on your ult is the biggest one desu
I lost so many stacks to assists
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>>559560402
>>559560334
Kill yourself
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>>559559778
Everything is balanced aroung counterspell now, have fun
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>>559558949
>mina "nerfed" and then getting huge buffs to overcompensate everything in her kit including another dash on her 3
yoshi is a retard confirmed
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>>559559315
maybe because they buffed everyone to be on par
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>ivy mains crying about nerfs
>she's actually stronger and shits out spirit damage
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>>559560517
stop posting your search history
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Silver will continue to get first picked in Night Shift until her wr drops below 10%
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Just yesterday some anon was complaining about Wraith having no random elements to her kit even though she's a gambler
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>>559560487
She was average in normal games and sucks shit in pro play
Not to say that this nerf isn't bullshit, but you don't need to exaggerate when the stats are on your side
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>>559560540
>play with the shirtless lash mod
>get to see him flaunt his chest whenever he parries
Life is good
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noooooooo please nerf everyone this isn't like riot games balancing what are you doing icefrog
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>kevin can now pretty much guarantee trapping someone in a bubble
>heal is default
>no more jank ice path
mmmmmmmm....... kevin
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>>559560464
Rem wins because he can actually leave the tunnel
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>>559560317
there cant be more than 1 guy memeing about that
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>>559560210
>rush 1 item
>it's a 6v5 game now
most useless champion after silver
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>>559560726
have you seen what happened to dota in the past decade? icefrog is a fucking hack
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>Paradox wall changes
But I liked the swap combo...
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>>559560789
it's literally just me
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>>559560685
Yeah, late game. Her early game is even worse.
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>>559550129
>The new spirit scaling on gun shots
0.022 scaling...wow...she's really gonna be dishing it out now...
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>>559560772
No? He can't leave or enter while taking damage. MK can burrow and go in and out anytime he wants, cooldown is the only obstacle.
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The biggest change to me in this patch is vortex web getting unit target
It was literally one of those items that I never wanted to buy because its upgrade made it worse
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>>559560760
issue with trapping someone in the bubble is that the bubble is created BETWEEN him and his target, so can't just use it as a gay baby jail
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>>559560810
JFC what part of
>teammates feed him stacks and refuse to buy counterspell
Don't you retards understand
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>Dynamo: Quantum Entanglement no longer grants +26% Fire Rate
>Dynamo: Quantum Entanglement no longer reloads ammo
>Dynamo: Quantum Entanglement T3 changed from "-5s Cooldown and +120% Ammo" to "Dispells non-ult debuffs for you and your allies"
what a shitty change.
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>the changes to victor's aura and reanimation
they are 100% changing his aura AGAIN in the hotfix tomorrow, the T1 upgrade on the revive is ok but its not like i use his gun much
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>>559558949
>change lash's parry
>not silver's
why
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>>559560487
>She sucks in normal games
Yeah, she was so bad, just borderline unplayable. I lost every match I played her and it was entirely the character's fault.
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Holliday rework confirmed in the works!
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>>559561076
Yoshi hates Silver, isn't it obvious?
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>>559561076
Silver's ass parry is kino though
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wraith is fun as hell now
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>AOEGODS patch
Holy shit everything just hits everywhere now jesus christ
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They have no vision for this game.
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MIRAGE

KILL REM

DUST DEVIL HIM, DO IT TWICE

BUY ECHO SHARD, DO IT FOUR TIMES

BUY REFRESHER, DO IT EIGHT TIMES

REDUCE IT TO ASHES
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>>559561187
Spiritfags needed it.
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did they fix egg
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>That drifter ult buff
Oh you fuckers are getting run down and there ain't shit you're doing about it
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I am fuckin coom
kevin is an actual character now
>>559560993
i think its mostly just to help 'confirm' it when you're next to somebody
the actual issue with it was heal reduction effects completely negate it, t3 bypasses this with dispel
meanwhile the rest of his kit is great, the stamina freeze is straight up OPPRESSIVE
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>>559561042
They really fucked Dynamo, which is wild because he wasn't OP in the slightest. Especially when you got annoying as fuck supports like Paige that are just untouched.
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>>559561351
*counterspells*
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>team is decent and even in kills
>but refuses to cross the middle of the map so we lose without taking a single walker
another one of these games, some people seem allergic to push a lane
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>>559561395
They want Dynamo to only be a bitchboy support. Very Riot-esque.
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>>559561395
>>559561042
So gun dynamo is dead, support dynamo lives?
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nooo the voting booth is gone...
new heroes when dog yoshi? get to work
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i'm surprised the game has managed to retain such an insane amount of players it feels like it'll always hover around 80k-100k until the next major patch which will increase the numbers even more
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>>559561503
yes, they buffed quantum as a saving spell and nerfed stomp and especially gun
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>>559561503
gun dynamo has been dead for over a year
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>>559561095
>rework
Why? She's perfect as is, only "problem" she has is that she needs to work way harder then everyone else to get the same results. Personally i just wish they'd buff her crackshot but i saw a few pros maxing it early so maybe I'm just too bad and it's secretly broken
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>>559561384
it was retarded that rem, dynamo and mcginnis existed but kelvin had to wait 5 minutes and put all his AP into grenade if his lane partner was dying
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>almost everyone got turned into a rape machine
>except for silver and shiv who got put in timeout
lmfao
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>>559560956
>vortex web getting unit target
It's unit target OR area target, similar to Sinclair's 1.
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>>559561590
Lots of them are Overwatch/Rivals players who switched over to this game because it actually has SOVL
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Did Mina get nerfed?
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>Throw Doorman’s bell through allied paradox wall
>goes across the map
Okay? Maybe I can get a artillery thing going if I could figure out how to aim it
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>>559561384
>grenade does literally everything
biggest winner right here
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not bad
>"Entangles enemies that remain in it for 2s. Lasts 1.6s"
>- Ivy: Air Drop Cooldown reduced from 100s to 65s
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>all the m1 heroes are suddenly getting fucked with

WHAT IS GOING ON
WHAT ARE THEY DOING
WHO ASKED FOR THIS
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>Silver: No longer participating in the Ritual, due to her new vocation as a stay-at-home mom.
So is this a nerf or buff?
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>>559561771
no
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>>559561771
Rebalanced, she is no longer early game Hitler but she actually scales into end game instead of falling off a cliff past midgame
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>>559561384
>kevin is an actual character now
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>>559561612
I loved stomp. It was fine, what the fuck was wrong with it?
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>>559561805
ya
>damage
>heal
>slow
>stamina lock
its so great
it's a great day to be a kevin fan
shame about all the people who are about to be upset about his return to meta
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>>559561828
Most of the roster got fucked with, dude.
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>First Game
>Viscous on enemy team goes 15/0
>Talks shit

I love easy reports from brownoids.
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can purge get into deadlock already so that I don't have to parse this big ass essay patch
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silvertrannies, how we holding up?
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i know ur in here chud abhrams
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>>559559741
>Gun dynamo
>After they nerfed fire rate/reload on 2
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>>559561792
I think it happens to every projectile character released after initial launch, really annoying when I'm Sinclair
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>>559561680
dyanmo and ivy got nerfed too, dynamos stomps don't go across the map now and ivy's gun damage was halved
>>559561771
"balanced", she has less stamina and longer cooldowns but her spirit scaling increased or doubled
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kelvin being good is bad for the game
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>>559561873
It's like 2024 all over again
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who do you ban now after these patch changes?
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I think Ivy is overall probably better now but man does having an even shittier gun and lane not feel very good
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literally everything drifter likes + all his abilities got buffed BUT lifestrike is pretty fucking bad now, it will literally never heal as much as it used to even with max boons

so uhh, any suggestions on what to do in lane now? I kinda relied on that shit to actually survive having to tank shit with my face
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>>559562145
Celeste
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>>559561868
>she is no longer early game Hitler
still is
>but she actually scales into end game instead of falling off a cliff past midgame
what is this initiate retardation? that never happened
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>>559562145
Drifter, aka who I had banned prior to this. THEY ONLY FUCKING BUFFED THAT M1GGER
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>victor just holds w+m1
>the enemy team does nothing to counter him
>him and pocket pause the game right before we're about to win to talk shit
>they're either romanian or poles
We really need a EUW server
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>>559562145
Rem.
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>>559561873
>>559562141
>kelvin is s+ tier op
>infernus is sss+ tier op
>calico is s+ tier op
>wraith is s+ tier op
please look forward to it
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what do you guys think shiv's soloq winrate will be now? I'm thinking 38.5%
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>>559562115
that's why I am upset
it's only a defensive tool now, when before you could use it off cooldown if no enemies were around for farming/pushing/supporting, and they could punish you for being greedy and using it too offensively
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>concord 3 the game
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>>559562145
i usually ban bebop or dyanmo but now maybe I'll ban mina and drifter, bevop is still getting banned tho
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>>559562216
>what is this initiate retardation? that never happened
Why do you only start saying this now, instead of bothering to counter the notion when everyone's been saying it for months running
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So is this Yoshi trying to put the old heroes up to snuff with the new roster?
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I don't think a character has been nerfed so hard so quickly after release as Silver
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30% slow fields that last forever and have the potential to explode for like 400 damage
just a giant "fuck you"
perfect for urn and midboss and shit
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>>559562317
why are you posting about marathon here?
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>>559562159
you get perma fire rate increase on tether dumb nibba
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>- Infernus: Flame Dash T1 changed from "-25% Fire Rate" to "-12s Cooldown"
>- Infernus: Flame Dash T2 DPS now also increases trail duration by 1s
>- Infernus: Flame Dash T3 now also grants +1 Charge
>- Infernus: Flame Dash T3 time between charges reduced from 20s to 14s
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Jesus, this patch sucks.
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>>559562389
after 20 minutes that 400 will be 200 with resists + everyone has 3k+ health
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>>559562363
I think they were always looking to buff or rebalance the old cast because icefrog does not balance like riot
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>>559559470
>Doorman
>buffed
>when they removed half his damage
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>>559562363
>old characters have clunkier toolkits but all the numbers and effects got buffed by 9000%
please enjoy it
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>>559562330
>start saying this now
nobody but actual retards said that the falls off a cliff midgame.
she has always been cancer at all stages of the game you queer nigger
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I love how all they did was reinforce that if you dont play the top 20 characters youre fucking retarded
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>>559562145
Silver, obviously.
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can I find a tgirl wife in this game
t. the chaser (drifters horned up brother)
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calico continues to be OP because she's ugly
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>>559562431
You don't start with t3 tether big dog
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>>559562683
troobadoor...watcha doen...
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>>559562639
top 20 characters in a game with 30 characters?
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I feel my desire to play deflate like a balloon from seeing this patch
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Why the FUCK did they just tack on a random AOE 3s silence on Geist ult? Really? Was this needed?
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>Vindicta's parry animation
lmao, they do not give a shit about her huh
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>More Paradox nerfs
Hasn't she suffered enough?
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super troopers is a dumb fuckin name and you know it yoshi
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>>559562703
then bee-line for it if you're playing gun ivy, you already got stone form

>>559562786
>can now swap more than one people
>nerf

??????????????????
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>>559562725
she had that already
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>>559562746
was it changed or what
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Why did Shiv and Silver get smacked with the nerf ICBMs?
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>>559562725
They just moved it from t3 to t2, it's been there forever.
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>>559562842
>Shiv
because he monke
>Silver
Because she wolfe
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>>559559470
Doorman been giga nerfed beyond being able to spawn cart from longer range, his damage literally got halved. the patch hype just hasn't worn off yet.
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>>559562837
>>559562859
Huh, wonder why I never noticed. I guess maybe games were just ending too fast for it to come up?
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>give vindicta a try cause of the buffs
this is genuinely the worst hero in the game
played every hero several times cept for her
its genuinely the worst hero
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>>559562839
she just straight up breaks her left arm and impales her gun through her body when she parries kek
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>>559562746
what happened?
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>>559559470
>paradox
>buffed
She's cuck tier
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>>559562930
Because noone maxes swap on geist, her other spells are way more impactful so you only ever saw maxed swap in super long games.
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>>559562832
>Worse grenade
>Worse carbine
>Worse time wall (whoope doo it buffs ally M1s except you have to stay completly fucking still to shoot through it)
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>>559562842
Probably for the same reason they gave Apollo's ult the ability to hit for 2k damage now and gave Pocket's Affliction a damage increase too

Because they're fucking retarded and have lost all semblance of balance at this point
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>>559562145
>walk down empty lane
>get trapped
>keep walking for a bit longer
>trapped again
I don't care if there are bigger hitlers, TOTAL VENATOR DEATH
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>>559563075
because she can SWAP MORE THAN ONE PERSON

dumb fuck
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>>559563036
>all that
>from ricochet
Jesus Christ...
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this is the kind of clueless patch I'd expect 2 years from now, not during the alpha
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>>559562794
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>>559562832
>no longer has the wall swap combo
>carbine still terrible
>no lifesteal
it's a nerf
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>>559562363
How so? Dyanmo and ivy just got rebalanced to better fit their roles
>>559562574
>implyin
>when morgana's Q still roots for 3 centuries and lux/cait's ults are both on low cooldown and can cover a 4th of the map
retard
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>>559559470
put Doorman in cuck that man was emasculated beyond recovery, his cart doesnt even do wall damage anymore
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para does nothing bow
her wall is pointless, you can run into it freely now
nade is still gimmick shit and arguably worse now
carbine got nerfed slightly
swap lost the lifesteal heal which is huge and gained some power fantasy aoe swap that you will never hit in real play ever in a way that'd give any value to you

hero is actually dead now
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>>559562937
>POV: Vindicta is getting forcibly escorted out by a US senator for disrupting Congress
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>>559563202
oh we have riot devs shit posting

stupid ass fucking company die
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>>559563202
>rebalanced to better fit their roles
ok riot
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>>559562936
first time ever abnadoning a match
i can't play this
cba
hero is dogshit in every possible way
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>>559562937
this isn't new
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>>559563160
Being a walking ult isn't a buff you dingus, not to mention they upped the CD on swap too
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>>559563202
enforced roles are homosexual
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Paradox NEEDS a rework
So does Shiv
So does Holliday

Stop making probait characters
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this was the first match of the night and a stomp so idk how much of it matters but
the pain battery changes are insane, the range is absurd and even an aimlet like me was getting early kills with the gun
aura feels like it deals 0 damage and is only there to apply exposure so battery can one shot retards
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Why did they take away Vindicta's souls from her ULT then give it to Calico on her 2 that has an 11s cooldown?
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when i said i wanted paradox changes.... i didnt mean these ones
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>swap enemy team in
>no silence on wall
>zero impact
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>>559559470
>Doorman
>Buffed
man needed his entire kit (+shard) to get a single kill lategame now he cant even do that
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>>559563406
buffing the best pick ult in the game to be even stronger is a huge buff, how are you intelligent enough to pay for internet and post here?
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I've just played against a Doorman and every bell hit like a truck. Did they just give up on him and turned him into yet another spirit nuker?
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>>559563286
i play and like both games, faggot
>>559563424
i agree, but it doesn't seem like they wanted to buff the old heros which is what we were discussing, except for vindicta apparently but i wouldn't know about that i don't play her
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why does shooting someone heal me
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>>559560304
How can you have a WR if you're 0% pick rate
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>>559563528
This patch is schizophrenic nonsense.
The changes are all over the fucking place
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we are so back
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>>559563581
they literally reduced the maximum damage
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>spell slinger, mercurial magnum on wraith 1, and rapid recharge
>spam cards
My mind is still wrapping around this. She's fucking insane now.
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Guys I just swapped 3 enemies onto you and they aren't silenced lol gl im outta here
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>>559563628
>I play and like league

go back
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>>559563572
>le potential ult
Nigga the amount of times you will hit a multi-hero swap are like once every week
And there's no silence so they can just press literally anything and leave
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>>559563443
>So does Shiv
>So does Holliday
Why?
>Stop making probait characters
What does that even mean?
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>ivy's weak lane even weaker
so... cold front crutch rush every game?
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>>559559097
>How dare a hero have two playstyles, right?
The problem is if you have a support hero with any playstyle but support people will pick it and try to make it work as something else instead of picking a hero for that role. If only there was a way people could pick heroes and roles
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>>559563742
which is why wall has charges again. no, yoshi does not balance or design these heroes for seekers
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How is drifter even buffed?
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>drifter is busted now
>but I'm just getting my ass gaped
I got to Oracle with a lifestrike Rend playstyle, how am I actually meant to play this guy
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>>559563875
it has charges again cause its fucking useless lol
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>>559563918
>now
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>>559563581
this is the weakest Doorman to date, build spirit defense and see him fade into nothingness
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>soul exchange viable again
>doorman bell nukes
evil bros... we're so back....
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>>559563506
I still do not understand why the buffed Victor..
What kind of fucking crack cocaine are they on man?
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>>559563875
>charges
at t3
but now wall doesn't do anything. so what's even the fucking point?

swapping multiple people is arguably worse because the isolation part is the strong one, the more enemies you bring the more likely it is that A) they aren't focused properly and B) someone has a way out

i just played against a paradox and just rushed her ass a dozen times because the wall doesn't fucking do ANYTHING. i just ignore it and kill her.
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>nooo this character was only A+ tier they need to be SSS++ TIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so glad yoshi is listening to you drooling retards
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>>559560210
so long as counterspell exists as it does every ability will be balanced around it
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possible use cases for new paradox swap?
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>>559564147
the POTENTIAL FULL TEAM MIDBOSS STEAL
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>>559563918
Drifter was already an unstoppable 24/4 hypercarry bro...
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>>559564036
keep crying, I'm sorry yoshi is listening (he's not)
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>>559564147
ill figure it out after i grab some dinner
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>>559564147
it's the new vortex web doorman cart (you will never hit it)
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RATE THE PATCH
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>>559564147
rem
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>Watching newfriend play the game
>He picks a random top daily build, and turns on autoqueue and autobuy
>This means he autobuys literally everything, even if the section of the build says "pick one"
>If the buildmaker didn't set something as "optional" he will autobuy it
>If the buildmaker has something set as "optional" he will never even look at it
>He has 50 hours played and complains about how he doesn't know what a single item is
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>>559564018
he needed buffs but the way they've done it is weird
pain battery has a 38m range with great expansion + deals a shit ton of damage
aura has a long range but barely deals any damage even with items, have to watch the replay later, but seriously, all my damage felt like it was the battery
honestly the enemy team wasn't good, against better players i think spellbreaker would cuck victor's late game damage pretty well
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>bro this character sucks in pro play
...We have pro play...?
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>>559563875
>it has charges again but it no longer damages enemies and no longer silences them
>this is a "buff" according to this spic nigger faggot
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>>559564338
uninstall/10
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>>559564381
and this is why haze is so strong
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>>559564484
>I'm 1v11ing the team

that's a personal problem timmy
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>>559564462
newfriend...
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>>559564462
>...We have pro play...?
https://www.twitch.tv/deadlocknightshift
This is what the devs literally balance around lol
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>- Can now jump during slide
What do you mean now, this has always been a thing?
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If you pick silver in my games now I'm actually reporting you for griefing
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the type of bitch Billy fucks with
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>>559564338
3/10 honestly, it's a bad sign for the game
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>>559564618
nope
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>>559564546
nobody cares about your initiate 1 spic lobbies
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>>559564462
Its funny because all the people aiming to be "pro" on release are going to be filtered out by real savants who picked up the game just after a week or so.
Thousands of hours wasted.
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>>559563812
I predicted she was due for some small nerfs but jesus christ she's fucking homeless now
No way she's gonna be able to pay rent anymore
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>>559564008
>doorman bell nukes
I wish, man is somehow even worse off than ever
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>>559564654
uninstalled
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Does Doorman's leveling order even change with this patch? You still need 3 points on bell. You still need to max cart first so it actually does something. The argument is wether you level door or ult second, max ult is really good now, but is it actually better than having 200m range doors? I don't really think so
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>>559564686
Why do you assume none of the savants are already playing?
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>rem flaming me
>their premade teammates tell me he's "non binary"
>i call him mentally ill troon that wants to cut his dick off so he should stfu
lobby was real quiet after that
i'll be on reddit frontpage tomorrow probably
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>>559564668
just uninstall nobody cares about you bro
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>>559564780
it's fine he needed the reality check
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>Bell nerfed so there's no reason to go full spirit
>door distance scales off of spirit now so there's no reason to go full utility
Am I supposed to just build around the cart now?
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>>559564659
In however many hours you've spent in the game, have you literally never tried to jump while sliding before? No, really, what is this line about?
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>>559564780
lol the redditors will post your steam and mass report your steam account if you get posted on there
thankfully nobody at valve gives a shit
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>>559564727
cart first, then rest depending on how good you are with door/state of the map (if you have a lot of space to work with, door). if you have nothing but gun heroes, max bell.
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>>559564780
there's an unironic tranny epidemic in this game since the mina/doorman drop
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>>559564918
I think for mass reports like that they'll take action
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just got raped by viscous what did they do to him
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>>559564980
yeah, against the mass reporters
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nahhh they really thought they cooked with this patch
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>>559564618
It used to be that if you did a grounded dash directly into a slide you couldn't jump out of that slide, but if you entered the slide any other way you could jump.
That restriction is gone and you can just jump regardless now.
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>puddle punch viscous actually rapes people now instead of lightly tickling them
jesus christ
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you ever get a match so dogshit you don't even derank after losing
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>>559564780
you yell nigger in situations like this so they cant clip it
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>>559564959
It didn't really blow up until Silver and Celeste last month, but yeah this game has way too many trannies, it's going to go the way of TF2 where every single lobby has at least one person named "transbian puppygirl :3" trying to ERP with people
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>>559565104
shitfrog really said "you know the most annoying spell in the game? let's....... buff it"
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>>559564959
>>559565195
i don't know when it started but yeah for some reason they flocked hard
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>>559564727
Nope, you still build and play him exactly like before. You just do even less with it.
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Ban all EUroids off NA please Yoshi. I shouldn't have to play with people who are not American. As they have brain problems.
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>>559564892
>make Doormans only useful skill his doors
this seems cruel and on the nose
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>>559565152
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1rk6kxc/i_dont_want_to_allow_these_kind_of_slurs_in_this/
They'll just censor you saying it then record an EPIC PWN video if they manage to kill you
>>559565261
>51k likes
This game is doomed
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>mcginnis, echo shard wall
>get 4 turrets from wall alone
Surely this is the build
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>>559564892
I think gunman is actually back. Not because it's good, but because the other builds are even worse.
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>>559565195
It's all twitter racket. They're trying to take the game away from "da chuds"
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>>559565093
Thanks.
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>>559564462
>...We have pro play...?
Nope
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WHY THE FUCK DID THEY BUFF MIRAGE 3

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>559564892
>this character has utility so he doesnt need damage
why.
so I have to be completely reliant on my team?
When half the playerbase just mutes when they join a match?
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>>559565527
FOR THE DJINN
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>>559565262
Why would you do less, literally every single ability got buffed
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>>559565361
we need to get more racist and anti gay to counter this, its the only way
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>>559564338
>the good
ivy dyanmo and item balance, egg is better then trophy and looks fun
>the bad
mina and drifter seem to have gotten stronger, they may have gutted shiv and silver too hard.
all in all im still looking into it, playing seven right now and he seems stronger
>p.s nvm drifter is fucking broken now wtf
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tldr who are the winners and losers of the patch?
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what's the jewish character in this game
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First Vindicta match went smoothly, still not sure what to build but I rushed counterspell and being able to use it while floating was a life saver.
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>barely anyone crying about wraith instadeleting everyone and getting 200k player damage in eternus matches
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>>559564892
>Doorman even MORE WORTHLESS lategame
thank you valve very cool
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This is probably the worst patch balance patch I've ever seen.
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>>559565752
its awesome man i can just m1 towers and they fall
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>>559565696
Mo and Krill, they can burrow into the tunnels now
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>>559565752
what's the build
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>most played characters were doorman, silver and shiv
I guess I'm just going to reinvent myself as a player now
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>>559565696
The shopkeep
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>>559565849
take the victor pill
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>>559565696
the shopkeeper
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>>559565696
Rem
Mo 'n' Krill
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>>559565361
>This game is doomed
who do you think played this game before? It was gays and furries from day 1.
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>>559565693
>winners
mina, seven, abrams, doorman, viscous, warden
>losers
shiv and silver
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>mina got one of the dumbest compensation buffs in the game
Give me one good reason why I shouldn't delete this fucking game
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>>559565527
Pushing spirit mirage since his gun was mega nerfed
Yet to play it in an actual game but I think scarabs stealing all the health instantly is going to get changed since there's very little notice before you lose 400+ health, but his other changes make sense given his now Mina tier gun
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>>559565693
>winners
wraith
haze
ivy
mirage
kelvin
viscous
calico
drifter

>losers
silver
shiv
dynamo
paradox
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>>559565007
Point blank and opening rounds now work on melee attacks, viscous 3 now always counts as nearby the opponent, melee charge/crushing fists now procs on heavy melee abilties (like viscous 3). So basically puddle punch spam is now completely insane
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>>559565693
Biggest winners: Billy, Mirage, Viscous, Victor, Pocket, Kelvin, Lash, Doorman, Infernus, Calico
Biggest losers: Shiv, Silver, Mina
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>>559565361
DeadlockTheGame-ModTeam

Just to clear up a few misconceptions:

Banter in a competitive game/sport of any kind is part of the culture. Slurs and insults are not, especially when based on bigotry.

Toxicity is present in the majority of online games but that does not mean people have to accept that this will be the status quo in our community.

Calling people who want to enjoy a match without insults "soft" does not make you look tough, it makes you look like a wannabe schoolyard bully who never actually played a team-sport where that attitude does not fly.

There is also this idea that Valve "does not care" about online abuse, which is demonstrably untrue; They have invested a lot into Replay-Review Systems and Dota 2 features a sophisticated Behaviour Score-System which will gradually remove communication privileges or your ability to pause the game, based on your conduct towards others.

Valve is ALREADY taking a similar path in Deadlock, there are bans for communication-abuse and report-spamming, as well as a Low-Priority Queue for griefers and leavers. You can also set language-filters via Steam Settings which will apply to Deadlock.

Make sure to report bad actors in Deadlock AND on this subreddit which brings us to the last point:

This thread requires some clean-up since people seem to have forgotten Rule #1. We are removing comments and users accordingly.
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>>559565693
Doorman is in the gutter harder than ever believed possible, right next to Shiv after they stole his ult
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>>559566053
that's so retarded
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>>559565758
You now have 2x spirit scaling on bell that doesn't require you to hit the actuall bell hitbox and an ult with 10 seconds CD late game that you can basically guarantee by slowing hex + knocking them down before ulting
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>>559564892
I really don't get why they nerfed his damage, was literally anyone complaining about Doorman damage anywhere?
It's like he saw meme compilations of people getting pushed into towers through doors and thought the whole hero should be centered around these cheesy strats that aren't actually that reliable most of the time.
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are you actually having fun with the game /dlg/ after this patch
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>no meaningful abrams nerfs
>no meaningful rem nerfs
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>>559566119
>There is also this idea that Valve "does not care" about online abuse, which is demonstrably untrue; They have invested a lot into Replay-Review Systems and Dota 2 features a sophisticated Behaviour Score-System which will gradually remove communication privileges or your ability to pause the game, based on your conduct towards others.
>does_he_know.jpg
You can absolutely tell when someone never fucking played Dota 2.
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>>559566249
not with vindicta, i hate this change on the crow
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>>559566249
i had a fun melee ivy game
i love melee ivy
removing the ult knockup sucks but the CD reduction is also insane so i'm torn about it
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>>559559238
do you have the image of this guy when he has a sombrero on? I have been genuinely looking for it for 5 years.
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>>559566019
>>winners
>ivy
????
What do people actually think she got out of this patch
She lost
>double tether burst heals
>1pt stun cooldown
>2pt stun duration
>knockup from flight
And all she gained is a meme root if enemies stay in your kudzu + some lategame scaling
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>- Vindicta: Flight now allows parry to be used
I did this.
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>glad silver got nerfed
>every silver i see post-nerf is on my team and they int
wow... thanks yoshi...
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>>559565904
He's so fucking boring to play, I'd rather quit. I want high tempo shit. Maybe I'll just spam viscous until they fix him
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>Try to remember Gaben's stupid new rank titles again
>Everyone i play with just calls them their colors now
Anyone else in Green V range?
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>>559565849
play melee ivy
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>>559562159
They've slightly merged her base weapon damage and that's it. An by slightly i mean you won't even notice it.
And as the other guy said, the tether on T3 is always active, which is pretty fucking nice unless you where a support Ivy since you can't have 2 tethers now
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>>559566182
>an ult with 10 seconds CD late game that you can basically guarantee by slowing hex + knocking them down before ulting
literally some worthless tiktok meme, no one in their right mind will buy AND waste slowing hex and knock down to get a pseudo 16 second cd on door man's ult, most fights will be over by then and even if they're not, getting a 2nd ult with that much investment for it is not some big swing, may as well just get refresher at that point.

especially since slowing hex upgrades into vortex web which has a much longer cooldown and is better used for grouped carts or cart combo.
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>wraith ult disables stamina now
uh wtf isnt she just the most broken char in the game?
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>>559566496
yes im in green range, the trenches still imo
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>>559566496
just you and your discord :)
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what the fuck is kelvin now
xd
nice patch icetard
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>>559566452
>Maybe I'll just spam viscous until they fix him
this patch is all about viscous spam, wraith spam and infernus spam trust me they're the most broken and overpowered
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>>559566510
*Nerfed not merged, fucking autocorrector
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>Sinclair main
>Dynamo ult buffed
Oh yes
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>>559566249
I main Abrams, Billy, and Viscous. The melee buffs are... welcome to say the least
>Opening rounds and point blank work on melee, and in the case of Viscous, his fists don't care about range and will proc things like point blank
>Colossus gives increased melee damage
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>>559566496
i only remember the 5 ranks that matter
phantom, ascendant, eternus, archon and initiate
phantom/ascendant/eternus are the ranks with real people with afrontal lobe, archon and initiate are used to make fun of people that are bad at the game depending on the severity of their skill issues
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>>559566624
I'd rather kill myself than play wraith or infernus, but yeah viscous seems fun in a retarded way.
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>>559566249
i dont think i have ever had fun in deadlock
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REMINDER
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>>559566182
>2x spirit scaling on bell
cool so 600 damage on full spirit builds
>an ult with 10 seconds CD late game
where the fuck does it say that
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>Blood Tribute no longer fucks with healing
>Frenzy wasn't really nerfed
>Berserker wasn't changed
I will now start trying to make Berserker Sprinter Warden work again. Getting a free silence to fuck over the Victors and characters relying on escape abilities while I just jog beside them and gun them down is going to be delicious.
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>>559566736
we use seeker here
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its genuinely just like old kelvin, if not worse
good job icetard
that was really fucking healthy for the game to bring it back
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I think people saying this patch gutted abrams are retarded and don't actually understand why he's so oppressive, they just see a long list of "increased" or "decreased" and think that means he's done for
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>>559566736
I'm bronze (or whatever it's called) and Celestial in MR.
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>>559564381
These are the poople crying wolf op.
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>>559566930
>people saying this patch gutted abrams
literally fucking who
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>>559563881
>rend
overall does more damage, silence is way better then lifesteal, cooldown increase isn't enough to really matter
>mark
resist shread > fire rate and bleed damage, bigger duration and cooldown as a t2 >>> t3 extra charges. it having heal debuff is a good perk for those giga long games
>passive
3% weapon damage on assists >>> 4% on kills. you can literally get assists even if you don't hit them once and are just nearby. or your darkness hit them from 100m away
>ult
was already great for teamfights but now it forces isolated for huge damage so you can just gank people even if they group up. it also works better for raping people 1v1 because it gives you a comical speed boost + slightly lower cooldown
>items
pretty much every item drifter likes except lifestrike got buffed
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>>559566903
old kelvin had a disarm beam
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>>559566961
i don't know what's bronze, celestial or MR supposed to mean
>>559566868
yeah that too, or alchemist to spice it up
sometimes emissary too
maybe i do remember the ranks
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>>559566304
Why not? It's much easier to hit now compared to the skillshot, and the ricochet is redundant because you can hit more than 3 targets per blast.
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>>559565693
Celeste won just because she dodged the nerfs
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>>559567019
last thread
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WRAITH HAS FUCKING INFINITE AMMO

AN ULT YOU CANT COUNTER SPELL OR DISPEL MAGIC IT CAUSE ITS AN ULT AND IT DRAGS YOU WHEREVER SHE WANTS AND TAKES AWAY YOUR STAMINA

HER 1 IS GAMBLECORE AND CAN FUCK YOU UP

BAN THIS CHARACTER IMMEDIATELY WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY THINKING?!
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>>559566736
>phantom/ascendant/eternus
>if opinion matches mine
I'm right because top ranks agree with me
>if opinion is wrong
lol carried shitter stop posting
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honestly wraith is still pretty weak. she needs more buffs this is too gimmicky

in 2 weeks people will unironically be saying this
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>>559567218
its wraith vs other m1ggers not wraith vs random non-relevant shit that you wouldn't replace the designated m1gger with
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>>559567202
I just laned against Wraith and Calico and it was a miserable experience because of the nonstop SMG fire
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>rank jumped 1.5 tiers since I last played
what happened
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>actual throw picks that are reportable for griefing
shiv
rem
doorman
silver

>if you see this on the enemy team you lost already
viscous
wraith
calico
abrams
venator
pocket
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>>559567328
Wraith and Haze I mean
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>>559567332
No clue but it bumped me like 4 ranks
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>paradox t3 ult lets her swap the entire enemy team
what the fuck
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>>559566846
yeah and then you put two bells together for (atleast) 1000 damage
>10 seconds cd
if they fail it's 10s
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>>559567423
>doorman
It's funny because my shitter friends are freaking out about the door range thing and saying that he's going to be the satan of this patch
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>>559566098
I'm asking sincerely how did lash win? The massive nerf to death slam range seems huge.
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I made it to Ascendant!
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>>559567423
put paradox in upper list
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>>559567442
4 tiers I mean, not ranks that would be insane.
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>>559567471
So it's another Lash/Dynamo ult now
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>>559566961
>11 ranks, 10 if you lump ascendant/eternus as Immortal/Top 500 of Immortal like in dota 2
(Insert shittier rank name here) Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond, Master, GM (insert 2 more rank names here), Ascendant, Eternus
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>>559567471
send them into your spawn
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>>559563727
btw blood tribute turns wraith into an unstoppable god.
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>>559567532
I've already seen a couple of eternus streamers bitching about how cancer he is, funny how divided people are over this.
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>>559559705
Don't worry bro this game is totally balanced, just get the metal skin equivalent for spirit, oh wait there isn't one for keyboard facerolling spiritfags.
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>>559567623
>apollo
>celeste
>nerfed
lol no

>abrams
he got buffed

>graves
she got nerfed even more for some reason when graves might as well be one of the WEAKEST characters in the entire game now
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>>559567705
>ritualist retard still butthurt about spirit when gun has and will always be the OP stat
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>>559567756
abrams didnt get buffed u absolute fucking illiterate retard
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>>559559705
COUNTERSPELL
>>559567705
FUCKING COUNTERSPELL THE ULT YOU RETARD
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>>559567705
>just get the metal skin equivalent for spirit, oh wait there isn't one for keyboard facerolling spiritfags.
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>>559567756
you call these buffs?
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I just tried a game on new Paradox and holy fucking shit this feels godawful.
Your only skills that do anything are the Carbine and the Swap (and only the swap part of it). The damage is a sad joke, all her early-midgame burst is gone and what's left of it is concentrated in one single shot that's gotten a minor buff. You straight up cannot miss it ever because you do no other damage at all beyond M1. The ult just tickles and there's no wall part to it now. Instead of going 2 -> 4 you go 2 -> 3 in a desperate attempt to make up for the lost damage, which makes your carbines even more obvious. The wall in isolation does nothing because nobody sane is going to fucking stand still behind it. It does not cc or hurt. It does not deny space. The weapon damage buff is completely not worth standing fucking still in a gorillion AoE with everyone on the other team k-styling all over the place. Nevermind anyone actually playing around the abilities of others in a pub game. The ult also won't save your ass anymore since the barrier is a joke compared to the previous lifesteal. You also pretty much need to get your ult to T2 ASAP because otherwise the cooldown is obnoxious for your ganking bread and butter. It's the only thing you have after all besides the Carbine.
And don't ask me what does "-20% Time Slow for 0.2s" on the nade mean exactly because I've failed to notice anything in-game. I've yet to try bombdox with the rebalanced grenade too, I usually go gun.
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>>559567789
you don't even play the game you fucking initiate cuck

>>559567829
that does nothing at all whatsoever about her spirit amp, her shield or her 1
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guys the new characters have been kinda power creeped now by the old ones we better buff them all again...
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>bebop not nerfed
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>>559567789
melee got huge buffs though
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>>559559950
it works with close range items now
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>>559567907
>he can cancel his hook now :)
literally what's the point of that? at least they didn't give his bombs -20 damage and +200% spirit scaling, i guess.
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yep free ride into oracle 1 and then get boosted to phantom 4 in a month by playing only one standard match every few weeks
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>>559568049
>pulling in an ulting infernus or dynamo

good times
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>>559567624
dota has 9 ranks, why does deadlock have 11? there's even more subranks within each rank in deadlock.
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>>559559705
wow 1500 damage that's crazy
bebop does that with a single bomb you utter trashcan
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>pocket now the omega auto win nigger character again
i am so sick of this fucking faggot already
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weighted shots might be better then point blank now if you're not expecting to get punched ever
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>>559567623
Dynamo was also adjusted to be more of a support, Ivy got super nerfed
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The only spirit character that you should complain about right now is pocket cause that guy is hitler and his ult is auschwitz unless you can actually react to counterspell his ult
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what are the chances they do an emergency hotfix
t. never played dota 2
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>>559566903
you're a newfag if you honestly think this
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>>559567156
it was better to use it at long range and the ricochet was better in teamfights if the enemies weren't close
also the healing reduction keeps getting added and removed in her kit
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>>559560810
>>559564117
I main bebop and counterspell has never stopped me from doing gigadamage with my bombs, usually they counterspell some random AOE bullshit by accident and I get free reign to rape them and even if they did counterspell my bombs, I'm gonna grab them and let my team rape them
I fucking love Bebop
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if you put out two paradox walls and shoot or cast through them do your projectiles get double buffed?
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>>559567829
They nerfed how much fun she is to move with, not her actual viability. God knows why.
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>>559568254
shut up vegas.
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>>559567907
>>559568049
this will be bebop in the future
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I haven't really played in a month these are my top heroes which one is the best now? I'm archon 3 apparently.
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>Can now jump during slide
...could you not already do this?
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>>559568547
calico
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Update fucked up my keybinds
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>Lash: Fixed Ground Strike against players brought down from mid air not doing damage
I KNEW I WASNT CRAZY
I had so many games with people just jumping right before getting hit and taking no damage from the Ground Strike.
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>>559565709
>I rushed counterspell and being able to use it while floating was a life saver.
you're welcome
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>>559568307
Dispell magic is better for bebop counterspell still gives you stacks
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why the fuck was this update 700mb+ for some number adjustments?
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i think it's time to come to terms with the fact that they can't reasonably balance 38 heroes and having so many in the roster and adding more and more and more was a mistake
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wraith is now the 'check out how hard i can piss' character with fire rate lol
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>>559568727
so true, remove bebop and haze
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>>559568706
new animations and textures.
goo fist looks way different now for example
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>>559568727
dota has 128
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the new Paradox grenades feel pretty nice so far
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Huh? Why?
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>>559568581
not from a ground dash slide
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>>559568727
do I look like a meme sport player? do you think I care?
more content
NOW!!!!!!
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bro what the shit is this new wraith damage
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OUR DEFENSES ARE CRUMBLING
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>>559568875
yoshi saw all the yuri trash
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>>559568849
and how well is dota doing because everytime someone new asks about dota here all the dotaniggers talk about how dogshit of a game it is
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Ok, so how exactly have these changes effected Drifter? What's his gameplan now? I know he fucking ZOOMS where ever he wants at least
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how hilariously pisslow do you have to be to think that bebop's bombs need immediate nerfs? just buy counter spell
>but my retard teammates feed him stacks!!!
ok? so you buy counterspell and then kill him anyway dumbass
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>>559568875
Reddit cried about a sub 50% winrate hero so they nerfed her
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>>559568727
i am already sick of the current roster actually, 38 is way too ltitle for a moba
100 is minimum for release
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>>559568857
>not pictured: alchemist rank
merc mag mina lmao
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>>559568307
>press dispel magic
>casually walk out of the bomb towards bebop
>proceed to rape confused robot
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>>559568968
huge buffs
>your 1 silences
>assists count for your passive
>ult actually counts people in it as isolated now
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What do we think about this item?
Personally, i've played two vyper games in which i got it and i won both
The 10% damage penalty doesnt really mean that much, it pretty much means that for every 10 bullets you fire, you miss one
Does it also affect your abilities or only weapon damage?

In any case, being able to get it at minute 1 and keep it until 20 means you get quite a large profit when you'd need souls most AND some buffs to go along with them
I believe its a useful item for hyper carriers and supports

What do you guys think?
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>>559569060
>casually walk out of the bomb
initiate
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>>559567756
>Abrams buffed
His healing got buffed but the damage on his skills got nerfed, but also melee in general got bugged
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>>559568875
In theory now you are not a slow piece of shit who has to wobble to fight so you dont need to tank hits.
Still she got gutter hard.
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>>559564892
>>559565545
>>559565758
>>559566245
git gud dumb shitters
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>>559568993
have you been reading these threads at all?
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>>559568660
it is, but it's only one ability in Bebops kit that has a shorter CD than either of those items and at max uppercut you can reliably keep them in the explosion radius with double hook

>>559569060
>slowing hexes you
>hooks you back into the bomb
you're not going anywhere nigger
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>>559568849
people keep saying dota has good balance but i don't know man
you don't have a character like clinkz being reworked for the fifth fucking time if you know what you're doing. so many things seem to be forgotten and so many things that you'd think are intentionally quirky and outside the norm get hammered down and streamlined too. and SO fucking much of the "big" patches are literal 0.2 filler changes it's insane.
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>>559568993
Sub 50% when you played her maybe.
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>>559569070
helps to create a role that isn't brooler, which is 90% of the game right now
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>like hero with middling winrate
>gets nerfed to shit
This shit happened like 6 times to me in dota and now it happened to Silver just as I got into deadlock.
What heroes do you guys really hate? I can start playing them and they will get shitcanned in the next patch.
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>>559569070
>vyper
>egg
match made in heaven
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>>559568857
you left the match ID lil pup.
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>>559569070
>I believe its a useful item for hyper carriers and supports
it's a massive net positive on literally every single player in the game
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they just really, really, dont want mcginnis to ever be played as gun huh

its not like its even been good for awhile now lol
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>abrams gets all dmg across the board nerfed
>retards: HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ABRAMS GOT BUFFED
baffling to share a game with such illiterate animals
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>>559569029
I've seen some people buying that, Ricochet and Mag for some reason, they either think Love Bites and stacking on hits will do a lot, or someone posted a meme build and people are falling for it
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will you be using the gallant genderfluid lash skin?
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>>559569143
most of the cast usually sits between 48% - 52% winrate
when a character deviates from that there's something dreadfully wrong
deadlock has 40% and 60% winrate characters every patch
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>>559569205
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>>559569171
>look at this really tiny sample size!!!
Cherrypicked stats, ignored.
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>celeste barely got touched
what are these devs on? Ketamine?
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>>559569126
What do you mean? They literally made her slower
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>>559569194
play celeste for the good of the game
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>>559568962
#2 game on Steam.
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>>559569303
>>559569319
is celeste still egregious when wraith, calico, viscous etc. are arguably more cancer?
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>>559568908
ugly
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>>559569348
what the fuck is bongo cat
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>>559569348
it doesn't count cause its all turd worlders playing dota
but its not shit because of hero amount lol
100 is bare minimum for a moba
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>>559564892
Build more gun, the scaling on his bell is fucked but it's base damage is bonkers.
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>>559569302
This enough matches for you?
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>>559569378
they can all be cancer
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why did they nerf vindicta
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>>559569408
mass 1 cent steam market farming bot net
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>>559569196
I doubt anyone cares enough to watch or look up some mediocre spics playing a fresh patch
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>>559569249
>gun slightly reduced
>charge reduced by a whole 7
>meme weapon bonus nerfed and put into t3
>slam got increased by 25
truly abrams will never be the same
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wraith's damage is RAPE
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>>559569070
There's a reason why this shit got removed. The Golden Egg is good.
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>>559569249
>>abrams gets all dmg across the board nerfed
>>retards: HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ABRAMS GOT BUFFED
his sustain got buffed and melee items themselves got buffed
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>ask my ivy to go backstabber in lane
>buys titanic mag and monster rounds
>builds cultist next
>then trophy collector
what a stupid fucking monkey this is high oracle too
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>entangling thorns
>vortex web
>alchemical fire
guaranteed 100k player damage and objective damage ivy games
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>>559569476
>50.8%
So she was balanced?
Or not really because anything below ass+ is physically unable to buy counter items and eternus faggots refuse to buy counters for her or to just climb a rope.
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>>559569303
they probably have some more tweaks prepared in case nerfing the core aspect of the character wasn't enough
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a big patch for an experimental playtest comes out and some loud people act like they just got an eviction notice
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>>559565958
We won!
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their portraits kinda look the same
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>>559569303
New heros did not get nerfed like people were expecting for some reason, Rem is still in basically every game and so would Celeste if she wasn't number 1 perma ban material.
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HOLY FUCK THANK GOD THE VINDICTA CROWS FEEL SO GOOD TO USE NOW
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>>559569282
i'm not saying deadlock's is better but I can't say I find dota's to be good after years of playing it
they strip away hero identity and variation too quickly, and the game is way too much a patchwork of... well, patches, in order for any of it to function. after a decade like this it just seems like it's throwing way too much shit at the wall hoping something sticks then scrapping off the bits that stink too much.
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>>559569070
>get it at minute 1 and keep it until 20
Isn't that just 400+1500 souls and 7 buffs? With the cost of the egg I don't really think it's worth it, maybe if they increased the soul per minute.
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>>559569785
>all ixians look the same
cool it with the racism, chud
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>>559569681
Onetricks always screech the loudest
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tell me what to think about the Mina changes, I play this character because my brain is tiny so I have no idea how to parse this and can't play for a bit
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>Get to ult as Silver
>immediately explode
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>>559569681
it's the same crowd of retards that come by to piss their pants everytime a update hits, it's literally riot devs. you can tell because they are always angry at buffs
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>>559569070
wht's the point of this? support bait?
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>>559569785
apollo got framemogged by abrams on York last night
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>>559569882
Pretty much lol
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>>559569798

im glad theyre going back to these old weird ass skills that just feel limp to use and changing them
scarabs untouched tho
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>>559569205
>Cheesed to meet you.
honestly I'd be alright with it.
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>>559569882
When I hatch my egg at 50 minutes you're gonna be in BIG trouble
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>>559569791
Silver is fucking dead man
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>>559569791
Silver got gutted what are you on?
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>>559569927
they like completely changed them
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>>559569841
Rake needs a bit more investment
Retreat now has another recast
Love bites is slightly weaker early but procs faster and hits harder later
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new time wall only buffs your team right? I don't see any difference from my own damage
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These Silver nerfs don't seem so bad.
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how do i build wraith
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>>559569845
That'll teach you to play a hero that had a 52% winrate.
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>>559569841
nerfed her early game power, lane won't be as braindeadly easy, beefed up her lategame so she doesn't fall off as hard
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So, have we gotten any sort of datamining with this new patch, or is there nothing to find?
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>>559570035
They absolutely are. Wolf form is basically no longer a lane threat unless they are massively caught out and it's no longer a 1v2 threat in the mid game. She's basically just an assassin now
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I don't really like the visual change to Viscous' punch, I don't want to get hit by a giant green cock
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>>559570030
>Love bites is slightly weaker early but procs faster and hits harder later
>>559570084
>nerfed her early game power, lane won't be as braindeadly easy
fuck
as a noob shitter this worries me, I'm pretty sure I was only scraping by because of how simple her laning is
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>>559569803
sort of agree. the eclectic nature of dota is a good thing though. something for everyone and allows for actual diversity of design and playstyle instead of homogenized slop
it's definitely been trending bland and stripping away the uniqueness. but it makes sense if you consider that the creative foundation of dota is now on deadlock
throwing shit at the wall isn't a bad approach if unique ideas come out of it. way better than the hero shooter contemporaries which have lame, safe, unchallenging designs and ideas
balance can come secondary to creativity. you can polish a fucked up design, you can't fix fundamentally bland slop
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>>559569070
>buy egg
>go and kick in boxes for 20 minutes
>???
>profit
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>>559570071
>seven, haze, and victor only get buffs
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>>559559238
Me with Vindicta
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chud characters to play with my hsts trans gf?
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>everybody on my team buys the egg
>nobody on the enemy team buys the egg
>friendly drifter is already 6/0 10 minutes in
yep, its rape time
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>>559570205
She's also even more vulnerable to cc at all stages of the game and even easier to burst down
You don't even need to buy shred for her anymore, just anti-heal and she no longer exists
>>559570264
Sorry chud them's the rules
52% pub winrate + 30% pro winrate = 82% winrate, nerf
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2 games in a row permastunned by phantom echo abhrams
this game is unironically worse than marvel rivals. im going back
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Well at least the new heroes are no longer new and you can spam them now
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>>559570382
overwatch is better than both thoughbeit, your opinion is wrong
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How did Celeste get out without nerfs
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>Shiv: Stamina reduced from 3 to 2
thx yoshitard, I guess I'm playing drifter now
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>>559570336
Pocket and rem
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>>559570438
the true redpill is that overwatch is good but boring
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>>559570438
lol
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doorman changes are such a massive nerf if you take out the retarded spawn vortex web carts.
>two sources of spirit scaling are straight up gone so your already mediocre damage is halved(bell and cart impacts)
>more ult shenanigans that only procs if people fail the check out (who the fuck fails check outs above seeker)
>more mandatory t3s to be functional
>gave him piercing bullets while also removing bell impact????????? what's the point anymore
>uh yeah but now you can cart people into spawn from half the map
>The only good thing i can say is that now the bell damage is more consistent in early-mid game before you get the cart stun, but the impact dmg removal can be felt later on quite a lot. unfortunately the cooldown increase between charges is brutal.
this character got turned into the most unfun cheese shit ever, literally useless beyond just cheesing people into spawn which is going to feel like absolute shit to play against and in a really bad unhealthy way.

what kind of retard thinks that's a good design?
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Wraith feels so fucking fun right now. Her ult actually feels good to use now.
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>>559570382
the only possible way to enjoy rivals is if you're a support player, that game is nothing but heal and sustain slop
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>>559570540
>>more ult shenanigans that only procs if people fail the check out (who the fuck fails check outs above seeker)
I can imagine you max ult first and buys some slow hex or something and just perma ult people with 10 second cd
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Holly shit they really fucking NUKED Dynamo.
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>look how people feel about this patch
>ehhh celeste really did get nerfed look they buffed slowing hex l-look th-they nerfed her movement she's so sh-shit now!
i love dogshit players defending these OP broken shitheads because they know they're garbage without abusing op nonsense what happened to Silver should've happened to Celeste 10x
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>>559570558
Yeah because nu-Wraith is fucking overpowered as shit
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>>559570497
>overwatch is good, but bad
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>>559570558
kill yourself m1gger
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>>559570558
>the most broken piece of shit 0iq nigger feels fun bros!!!!!!!
yeah no shit
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why tf did these retards buff haze and lash? game is gonna die w this kinda retarded balancing
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So this patch pretty much confirms they are out of touch and really have no idea what they're doing, doesn't it?
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>>559570497
overwatch is fine
it's so substanceless and plain it's hard to comment on
boring is a good way to put it
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>Lash shows up in laning phase just to throw Apollo at me so that Apollo can ult and get a free kill
>then Lash leaves
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>>559561841
Imagine
>Silver: Silver's is once again participating in the ritual due to her husband has being fired from his job.
>Reworked her kit to include throwing rabid werewolf children at her enemies.
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>>559559952
But the death slam nerf.
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>>559570735
game is getting some weird ass power creep patches, so many characters have either been neutered to oblivion (silver, shiv) or turned into some comical free win picks (wraith)
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>>559570735
Nah its p kino
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>>559559318
Very and it upgrades from another good item for her which is mystic slow
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>>559570735
>celeste didnt get nuked
>rem is still stupid
>apollo is still retarded
ye
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>>559570370
No need to buy anti-heal when the most played and broken niggers have it built in- like nigfernus and goocket.
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>>559570661
>>559570753
yea that's what i was trying to say, overwatch is technically good and fine but they play it way too fucking safe to the point where it's overly sanitized and boring
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>>559569634
>eternus faggots refuse to buy counters for her or to just climb a rope
Ah, yeah, Eternus players are simply worse at the game. That's why she does better there lmao. Do you even hear yourself? Please imagine someone else saying this about another character so you can hopefully see how hard you're overdosing on copium. You know who actually has a sub 50% WR until Eternus? Celeste. I guess Eternus players really just hate counterbuying for that dogshit character too.
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>>559570816
No need to thank me.
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>>559570735
they are trying to move away from characters having multiple play styles to characters having a single play style. Dynamo becoming a bitchboy support killed all my interest in this game. i fucking love stomping dudes
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>>559570735
>apollo is retarded strong early game
>celeste is retarded strong the entire game
>melee abrams and venator
>drifter
>L0L LETS RAPEBUFF EVERY OLD CHARACTER AND GIVE THEM 10K+ DAMAGE
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>>559570819
>silver gets reworked into the brood of deadlock
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>>559570735
The consensus of Dynamo essentially being outdated for like 3+ months and then collectively getting raped is wild
At least I'm enjoying stealing Ivy ult and getting 20% damage on my Sinclair bolt burst that feels totally balanced
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Goated with the sauce frfr
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>flight resets after a kill
decent change, thanks yoshi
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>>559570987
Yeah I fucking despise it, that was literally the funnest thing about 2024lock was that any build was viable on any character
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>>559570876
At least now you don't even need to walk away from silver.
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12 wins streak broken by a ragging homo... I'm scared to queue again.
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is egg damage penalty universal
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>>559570540
>two sources of spirit scaling are straight up gone so your already mediocre damage is halved(bell and cart impacts)
They didnt remove scaling from any of his abilities though
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>>559571097
>celestial
>still playing
KEKAROO
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>>559571106
It's like curse damage penalty.
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am I out of pisslow now?
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>>559563242
She's now just a splitpush roam ganker. Build gun and use wall + grenade amp to melt things that stand still, can slaughter structures and also express shot no longer ruins reload economy
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>>559571097
retard
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>>559571175
>calico
you're ritualist at best
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>>559571175
>Not E6 and playing in a tournament
It's over for (You)
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I miss 2024 deadlock when everyone was retarded and was just trying randomshit
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>>559570883
>pocket now actually has literal actual 100% anti-heal in his kit
On top of getting directly nerfed she also gets a new hard counter in the same patch
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>>559571147
the impacts of the bell and cart wall stun both had their own spirit scaling. with them gone he now has a lot less spirit dmg scaling.
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>>559559470
I can't find any patchnotes of venator
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>>559570929
I have not seen a single game in which was won due to Silver. Eternus faggots are mostly boosted retards playing 50 games a day with friends, along with the retarded streamers crying rivers about a hero that gets cucked by a rope it's a joke of a rank really.
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>>559571263
Oh what the fuck the cart doesn't do damage on wallstun anymore?
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>>559571175
Pisslow stops at archon.
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>>559570735
i sincerely hope the patches won't be this retarded after release
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>no Ven changes
based, gonna keep staking niggas
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>>559568298
Alright fair enough
>and the ricochet was better in teamfights if the enemies weren't close
I always had bad luck with this ability deciding to ricochet onto a trooper instead of a player.
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>>559571338
Is that where shitlow starts then?
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DID THEY FIX MATCHMAKING
THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT
DID THEY FIX MATCHMAKING
OR WILL NEWFAG SHITTERS WITH 10 HOURS PLAYTIME STILL SHOW UP IN MY ARCHON LOBBIES?
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idk how you niggers come in here and feel inclined to give your opinion on the game and say "im going back to rivals/overwatch"
that's like going to ruth chris and saying you prefer arbys
fucking idiots lol
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Viktor with Tankbuster...
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I dont like this game anymore.
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>>559571290
>I have not seen a single game in which was won due to Silver
Maybe you should have stopped playing her then.
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>>559570735
Graves should have just got straight up buffs instead of this half and half shit. She already takes so long to come online and now her 2 which is basically mandatory to land in order to get a kill is shittier early game, not sure what they were thinking

Meanwhile Celest gets little love bite nerfs and Abrams is basically untouched despite raping the game at all skill levels
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>yesterday i was thinking that wraith's ult felt pointless and like it only lasts half a second
>yoshi reworks it today
GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!
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I like this game more now.
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>They buffed Victor
For What Purpose
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>>559571435
>been addicted to deadlock since the big update with graves
>almost lost all interest in playing with this patch
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>>559571402
matchmaking is not the problem retard the game is just new and complicated it's impossible to make a fair game especially with all the snowball mechanics
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phew glad paradox got nerfed there were 4 total people playing her that was way too much
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>>559571234
According to /dlg/ ascendant is actually where all the good players are and the tournament players in eternus are awful at the game and don't know what they're doing.
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>>559571518
You're a clueless nigger, kill yourself
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>>559571486
They cucked his aura damage beyond repair
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>>559571402
bro like 80% of the playerbase started playing with the old gods update last month
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>>559571260
Most common before this retarded patch was just vennigtor spamming cumsecrated grenades, your ult loses half it's value just from one nigger spamming a free damage skill. and yes it's half since 50% anti heal along pure damage ignoring the resistances that she no longer has. Yoshi should just hang himself or fire whomever is in charge of balance.
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>>559571385
Same. I've been spamming melee venator for the past week because I assumed he would get gutted since it was so obviously overpowered. Instead he's indirectly buffed quite a bit. Guess I'll enjoy it for now.
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>>559571513
>>559571435
disliking change is a sign of autism! patch is great
>>559571561
Sorry but you cant just blame the matchmaker for playing badly and letting your team die
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>>559571559
So why did they keep losing with Silver if they know what they're doing with her
Was it all an elaborate 322 thing?
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>>559571589
I actually feel like he got slightly nerfed indirectly with how many big buffs they threw around while leaving him unchanged
still super glad they didn't touch melee Ven, that shit is fun as fuck but completely braindead
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>>559571582
>noob installs game
>put him in midrange rank instead of the rank literally called initiate
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>>559571260
>>pocket now actually has literal actual 100% anti-heal in his kit
this BETTER get reverted tomorrow or the devs are complete retards, pocket is already a pain in the ass to deal with and this is a stupid addition
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am I crazy or is Billy broken as fuck in this new patch?
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>>559571673
>teleports in
>ults
>makes it so you can't heal
>brings you to 5% hp even if you walk away
happy?
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>>559571629
Probably related to the fact that practically every time she was picked it was by the underdogs that had been consistently losing before she even came out or something idk
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>>559566249
I begged for Silver nerfs and I got them, so yes...and no, Im not sorry, fuck the furfags and their broken ult
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>>559571682
Every meleefag is because the melee items got massive buffs
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>>559570735
Yeah game is in fucking alpha and Yoshi is already balancing around the 1% of players while heros like Apollo/Celeste rape the low elos.
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I'm gonna miss my 48 second ult cooldown Doorman :(
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>>559571097
did marvel rivals general die? that's so sad but you can't keep posting here.
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>>559571619
>gets AIDS after being raped by a pack of niggers
>I LOVE CHANGE!
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>>559571718
the entire game is based around counterspell
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>>559571753
didn't we literally just have a long ass patch where frontline melee heroes dominated?
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>>559571436
I mostly player paraslut, only occasioanally played silver. Plenty of games with her on my team and against, the hero was never a problem, usually she also had no fucking damage since you need to aim with her unlike Nepollo and other niggers.
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>>559571760
I'm just trying to show people a better game. Deadcock is made for trannies who spend 20 years learning a single char just to climb ranked.
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>>559571425
in place of what?
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Vindictabros I'm thinking we're back
Had +160% weapon damage from ult by the end which is more than I ever had before the patch. Should be pretty easy to get +200% on the regular now and you don't even need to steal kills to do it.
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>>559571741
Funny how they only finally won when the better team tried picking Silver lmao
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>>559571807
Don't reply to /v/tard bait
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>>559571840
this one
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>hyperbuff already strong characters
>again
yeah I'm done with this game. deadlock has turned to such shit even overwatch is more appealing. not going to stick around since they're doubling down on retarded balance choices and powercreep
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>>559571395
Eternus is Sweatlow.
Archon is the beginning of Shitlow.
Pre-Archon is Pisslow.
>pic unrelated
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>>559571759
now its 10 seconds
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hello anons since vindicta got changed im making a build for myself with her do you guys have any advice or anything? i dont really know what to put in it or the ability point order after you put 2 in your ult.. i think more green items would be nice but i only know how to use the parry one
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>>559570382
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>Abrams
>Billy
>Drifter
>Wraith
>Viscous
>Victor
Is this the current list of heroes that I want to play if I want to be a rapist?
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>>559571748
>T. wood that has space and shift unbinded.
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>>559571962
10 seconds if the target fails to check out(hint: 100% successful checkout rate at any rank above Alchemist)
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>>559570438
the only reason i still play Overwatch is because of ball
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>>559572040
you play bomb paradox this patch
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I wish I could just instantly swap my lane partner the moment that this stupid fucker dies twice
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>>559565361
I applaud people who use slurs in my games. I've made 3 new friends so far.
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>>559572040
add geist
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>normie internet
>normies love Silver nerfs
>normies cheer and say she was too much
>/dlg/
>anons didn't think she was strong before
>anons think she's trash now
what a curious split of opinions
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>All the characters I enjoy playing gets nerfed
>Apollo, Lash, and Celeste
Guess I'll enjoy Venator and Infernus now
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>>559559705
You had spellbreaker but I'd bet money it was on cooldown from being procced a second before. Get Spirit Resilience next time.
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>>559572205
Stats are on /dlg/'s side, normies only work off feelings
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>>559572215
lash got buffed though?
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>>559572215
Do not play Venator, I don't want him catching any nerfs
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>I'll do anything to keep the people of Spanish Harlem safe.
So Ivy canonically doesn't give a fuck about anyone not a spic? If she sees a chink nigger or white getting attacked by a monster she just flies past?
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>>559571175
ascendant is full of retards I'm afraid...
the actual problem is the game creates 'ascendant' games and it's like people from oracle, ascendant and eternus and the game can go full retard quick.
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>>559572215
>celeste
expect more nerfs for that overtuned cunt unicorn later
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>>559572294
>I like X
>OH SO YOU HATE Y THEN!?!?!?
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>>559572205
It's the same people who think bomb bebop is the strongest character in the game
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wraith is a bit of a problem now i think
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Sometimes I let the walker die on purpose, just as a test to see if it's even worth trying that game.
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>wraith buys blood tribute and unironically becomes completely unstoppable
oh okay.
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>>559572307
I'm in Archon and we had phantoms and oracle players in our match.
The Phantom players ran it down and were yelling at eachother in spanish.
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Silver buffs when? They accidentally nerfed her this patch instead of buffing her.
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what's my opinion on the patch, bros?
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>>559562141
IN HERE I AM COB
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>>559572413
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>>559572350
that's how it works yes
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>>559572425
put your game into statlocker and check if it was a party you were playing with
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>>559572415
there's a reason that it used to have heal reduction
they should've kept the heal reduction and buffed up its aggressive stats
now its basically a must buy on any gun burst
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At least when Silver says "Oh God not again" when her ult triggers it makes sense now
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>>559572205
>normies love Silver nerfs
>normies cheer and say she was too much
Normies are the ones playing her.
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>>559572307
I've recently climbed to mid ascendant and while this is true, it's even worse in phantom and oracle.
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>>559572449
The most hilarious thing is that a common complaint on plebbit was that slamfire did too much damage, the skill that had max 3-5k total damage at the end of the match. That is how clueless these retarded niggers are, unfortunately they are also very loud.
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Lash bros we're fucking so back.
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ranks make the game toxic for zero reason
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Here's your teammate for tonight. Say something kind to her.
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They are gonna roll back some of these Silver ult nerfs but keep the rest.
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>>559572614
*dodges the match*
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>>559572605
kill yourself tf2tranny
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>>559572649
just revert all of them, I don't even play her or want to play her but she clearly is way overnerfed.
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>>559572614
Washed up with a husband and kids now lmao.
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>>559572614
You're still going to be first picked at the NS, don't cry.
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>>559572531
Alright fuck you anon you actually got a laugh out of me
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>>559572673
schizo melty
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>>559572231
>need to buy a $200 e-sports mouse
>need to get a prescription for addy
>need to get a gamer chair and have perfect posture
>need a 540hz oled monitor and a $6k gaming pc
all that to climb ranks...
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>>559572614
I'm still gonna one trick her you fags are gonna be the ones stuck dealing with it.
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>>559572773
tf2tranny
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>silver niggers when they don't get 99% spirit/bullet resist and 5+ m/s movement speed for proccing a 30 second cooldown ability by not missing 3 shots
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AAAA
GIVE ME MY DRIFTER STALKER MARK CHARGES BACK
WHAT THE FUCK
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can they please give us reliable bans? that's literally all I want
I can't play agianst haze anymore, 5th game in a row the enemy haze comes out of lane 12/0 and shits on us, metal skin doesn't work when they're this fed man, please just let me ban what I want I can't keep playing like this
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>>559572543
redditor spotted!
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>>559572776
how is this related to what you replied to?
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Could someone post the Mina batch sticker, I missed it.
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>>559572827
they had to nerf silver's base form not the wolf
damn thing was gonna be useless as is simply by increasing the cooldown on it
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>>559572550
lmao I knew this game is for troons. God damn spidey sense
Play Marvel Rivals if your are stright
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I got basically all of the changes I wanted

>Doorman gun pierces
>bell buffed
>cart bigger for easier kidnapping
>hotel position bug fixed
>hotel harder to escape from
The only problem is that the ability order is harder to decide. Going level 3 ult early could be game breakingly strong if you build for it but youd have to delay your cart stun. Level 3 bells sounds good too but probably not worth since theres a 4 second cd between bells now with rapid recharge.

>Mirage is now Furion lite
Im building magic carpet rat pusher mirage from now on.
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>>559572874
Nigger kill yourself, you can see her pickrate it wasn't just autistic retards playing her
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>>559572519
The only way to use an item with self damage is healing, the fact it reduced it made no sense desu, especially with the many different anti heals that people buy from minute 5
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>>559572894
>ZOINKS MY TRANNY SENSE IS TINGLING NIGGERMAN
go back
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>>559572894
>marvelfag is esl
shocker
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>>559572894
there's a troon literally every 3 matches in deadlock
genuinely what made them swarm this game
im baffled
i don't care that much but its kinda cringe how sensitive they are
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>>559572205
>normie retards were feeding their asses off to her ult and never buying cc against ger
no shit that they were going to cheer her getting absolutely gutted
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>>559572205
This is the same general full of people complaining about Infernus and saying he was broken. Anons are not good at video games and just argue based on feelings.
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>>559569068
Yeah, I know all of those, love em, but I'm curious how exactly he plays using these buffs now. Does he build differently now?
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>>559572895
Going max bells and using duration+expansion to carpet an entire lane in bells sounds funny
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>>559573060
>genuinely what made them swarm this game
gee wizz billy i wonder if it's possibly the calarts hazbin hotel character design and writing and shipping by valve
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Icepoo loads the game up every day thinking of ways he can nerf Ivy, Shiv, and Kelvin more
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>>559572883
what do you mean? the sticker you would get on the wall for the individual person? first batch didn't have that it was just that green eye voted sticker, but mina was also dropped day 1 without votes
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>>559573125
Infernus's problem before this patch was the he's just unfun to play against, miserably so. Now he's broken and even more miserable to play against.
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>>559573240
>and Kelvin
well he failed today
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Has some autist already done the number on the patch notes and figured out which heros are meta?
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>>559573168
probably about the same
lifestrike is no longer a god item that gives whoever buys it a free early/mid game so maybe skip it
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>>559573125
It's funny because that's the opposite of what I said when I'm the one who's right >>559572238
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>>559571757
The joke is Celest/Abrams are raping the low and high elos and arent being addressed for some reason
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>>559573269
>green eye voted sticker
Yeah that post it.
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>>559572883
What the fuck, I thought I had it even though I participated during it.
FUCK YOU YOSHI
>>559573269
>it was just that green eye voted sticker
That's the one you get on the wall if you voted during that time.
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>hmm u want to build gun ivy
>no... no i dont think u will...
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>>559572550
>>559572894
Samefag tranny trying to push this as a trans game like they did with New Vegas
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I gotta say, this patch isn't funny for the reasons I thought it would be, but it IS still funny
The werewolf humiliation ritual has taken on a new and amusing shape, and I look forward to seeing both how low her winrate gets, as well as if nightshifttards continue to pick her and fail with her anyway
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>>559573443
Oh so I didn't miss anything, based!
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>>559573427
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why did they make wraith so broken?
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>>559572246
He lost spirit scaling on flog's radius and way more importantly death slam throw range. He just lost a huge amount of power on base defense and attack.
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>>559573530
Samefag tranny? Nigga they're in every 3 games
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>>559573594
Neat, wish I was there oh well.
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victor feels so weird to play now, do you want to build some gun stuff with him? is he a hybrid now? i don't get it
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>>559572040
Dont forget melee venator who can stun lock you while he rapes you with a phallic object(a stake)
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>>559572850
>NOOO MUH STACKS
>meanwhile moves like the fucking flash during ult now
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>>559573654
No one's falling for it bro
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>sinclair now has more uptime with silver's ult than silver herself
lmaoooo
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>>559573687
same build basically with more purple
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>>559573612
So Metro could stay Eternus.
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>>559573349
No, you're wrong, you just outright ignore the stats you don't like because you felt one way and only wanted the facts that suited you. Silver's winrate regularly got posted when people said it was bad and it was always either completely ignored or coped hard about after by the people that were just insisting it's under 50%.
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>>559573897
that was always the case
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>>559573594
What's the condition for it? I WAS THERE
Goddamn it Yoshi
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>>559567806
>>559567798
Not only is Counterspell extremely strong in general but it hard counters Apollo's ult because you get two opportunities to avoid the damage from Itani Lo Sahn. You can either counterspell the initial hit that makes everything slowmo and avoid all the damage that way, or even easier you can counterspell the damage itself when you're in slowmo/cursed mode and the only thing you can even do in that state is try to parry.

It's a bit like when you stun someone and go for the heavy melee even though you know the stun isn't long enough to make it connect without them being able to parry it. Because the enemy is currently stunned at that point their entire focus is on what you're doing so that makes it 10x easier for them to instant parry the second you come out of a stun.
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>>559573790
while that is hilarious the charges were better for chasing people down for pick offs
I don't want to be an ultbot brooltard
I wanna murder anyone who steps on the map alone
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>>559573963
Nope, I'm correct, I observed that her winrate in low brackets and pro games alike is dismal, and her winrate in high brackets is slightly above average
I accept your concession in advance, stats are on my side
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Shiv surprisingly feels decent now. The knife damage being reverted actually makes him good in a fight now, Rage builds faster.
The stamina change is kinda gay, but not a huge deal if you can do the shotgun movement

The ult change is kinda wack IMO. Mainly because if you Ult'd someone and they dashed/teleported away you still caught them and kill them. Now the range is hard capped so unless you're right in their face you end up missing a lot
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>>559573878
Try going on reddit or xitter or YouTube deadlock anything
Trannies are winning
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>>559574048
>Nope, I'm correct
Sure, buddy, whatever you want to tell yourself.
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How do you deal with massive fire-rate reduction from the enemy team when you play a gun character?
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>>559573594
More fomo. I don't have the snow globes either...
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>>559574048
>slightly above average
>60%
yeah ok
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I wonder if itll be worth farming a full hand of jokers on Wraith to dump them all at once in a teamfight.
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>>559574094
Well well well, now who's ignoring the parts of a post they don't like
Oh how the tables have turned
>>559574146
Funny, it looked like 52% to me before
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>max health reduction applies instantly now
>steal lasts 14 seconds instead of 4
jesus
are scarabs an actual ability finally?
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>>559574260
spirit mirage stocks mooning
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>update drops
>spam about dropping the game because of new update increases

gee, there sure a lot of people quitting deadlock all at the same time with the same style of posting, what's that about?
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>>559569171
>>559574186
explain
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I don't care about GAYLANCE patches. I want new content. Updated map, more objectives and those redesigns.
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Egg buffs don't scale whatsoever. It's literally just a Sinners heavy buff no matter the Souls/Time you have invested
>28 minutes 2.4k
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>>559574382
That's the pickrate, silly.
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>>559573897
This has always been gay as fuck. You cannot exist anywhere near him or else a werewolf rapes you every 25 seconds. He should at least need to charge the ult after stealing it. Retarded interaction.
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>>559574419
You sure they show all the buffs bro
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>>559574367
It's the marvelfag spamming off cd today
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>>559574424
oh :)
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>>559574382
Anon, that says PICK rate.
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How big will Silvers buffs be next patch?
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>>559571993
I go for the 2 point upgrade in ult ASAP then max Flight, then 2 point upgrade in Crow for Mercurial Magnum procs. Assassinate's 5 point upgrade can be saved until you have more stacks later, and even delayed after Stake if you're not getting any ult stacks.
The Alchemical Fire build isn't very good IMO but if it works for you then keep doing it. Might want to max Stake early instead of Flight if that's what you're doing. With the Flight build you'd want more firerate than you're building.
Trophy Collector is a terrible item and the latest patch didn't change this IMO.

Some good greens are:
- Counterspell for obvious reasons, especially since you can parry mid-Flight now. Better than Dispel Magic against telegraphed effects
- Dispel Magic is an alternative to Counterspell for when the enemy team has e.g. an Infernus or Bebop or other heroes whose stuff you can dispel, but does not have telegraphed CC like Lash. If they buy an assload of knockdowns you can get both this and Counterspell.
- Warp Stone gives you extra mobility while flying
- Unstoppable is a decent lategame pickup if they have e.g. an Abrams with Phantom Strike constantly fishing you out of the air
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>>559574460
idk why there's a resident marvelfag when the overwatch general is right there
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>>559570042
by a pack of Venator's and Abrams during the sweltering hot summer night of 52
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>>559574542
Maybe they make you have to invest in ult points more
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>>559572131
Definitely not true anymore. With the -1 stamina and a slowing hex/cold front most people wont get out in time.
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>>559574458
Why wouldnt it
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>>559574542
I expect ritualists to still claim she's OP and she's either nerfed further or reworked entirely.
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How to ruin a goo punch spamming viscous’ day?
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>>559574042
See what they did to Hunter's Aura
they do not want you playing pickoff anymore
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>>559573530
BLACK FAGGOT TRANNY
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>>559574542
Wolf form is now 120 seconds. Its a buff because you can play Silver longer before turning into a shitty melee creep
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>>559574668
closed alpha game please understand
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>>559574260
How exactly does stolen max health work? Does hitting one scarab do 546 damage to an enemy that they can't heal back for 14 seconds, and adds it to your health pool full, or does it add it above your health pool and you have to heal into it?
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>>559572519
self damage should just scale so that wraiths can't just run across the map with it on and taking literally every camp in half a second.
The worst part is that if you catch her doing it you can't even do anything because she has fucking 50% debuff reduction.
Anyway I just had a match where my wraith refused to buy it and we lost.
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>>559574695
120 seconds cooldown*
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>>559574542
How big will Silvers tits be next patch?
HUGE
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>>559574586
Oh trust me, he frequents that place too
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>>559573210
>Shipping
are you actually retarded?
There's like 3 avenues of canon flirting.
>Every chick has the hots for victor and shiv
>Infernus asks Holiday out for a date.
>Holiday has a massive crush/past relationship/is lovers with the OSIC captain.
All the shipping you see is faggots taking one casual conversation and claiming it's proof they're gay.
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>>559574132
building more fire rate
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>>559573060
>>559573210
The lack of attractive female characters for straight dudes maybe? Instead we get furshit, Concordslop and gaybait twinks.
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uhh paradox nade nerfed?
that shit shreds EVERYTHING
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>>559574556
What about divine kevlar + lightning scroll build, they nerfed everything else you might as well be an ult bot
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>>559574881
>>559574586
>>559574460
Why the fuck does every single general on this fucking website have a autistic fag spending a good chunk of his day every day being a nigger.
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>>559574929
>am straight
>want to destroy ivy silver and vyper
Pick your poison.
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>>559575041
it's 4chan. also icefrog/valve have some serious haters from 3rd world countries
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>>559574771
It's like a heal that does damage if that makes sense
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>>559573060
You're seriously overrating the commonality of troons in not only deadlock, but the world.
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>>559575145
Ignore him, he's a tranny trying to make deadlock seem like a trans game, they did this with New Vegas too. They falseflag it where they pretend to complain about the game being full of trannies to trick even anti-trans people to think "oh that game is full of trannies"
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>>559575041
They flock here because they actually just get banned or blocked on every other website. 4chan moderation is basically the VAC of the internet.
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>>559574771
direct add. whether you're at max health or near death, hitting someone with a scarab will give you that full 500 health
when you hit an enemy with it, it lowers their health bar starting from the top. so if they're at 500/2000 then hitting them with a scarab will change it to 500/1500, not reduce their current health
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>>559574606
kek what a bitch
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>>559575145
World yes, Deadlock no
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Goodbye.
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>>559575103
It doesn't but thanks for trying. I think I need someone to explain max health stealing to me like I'm a retarded drooler.

Ascendant btw, never bought Siphon Bullets.
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>>559574382
This is the quality of the retarded /dlg/ posters you fags are arguing with.
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not buying torment pulse on victor... soulless..
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>>559575356
Ok thank you, you made that easy to understand.
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>Mina buffed
Is Yoshi genuinely a retard? I'm close to uninstalling with this dogshit balance team
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>>559575229
I've assumed this must be the case for awhile too because the alternative is anons being so incredibly fucking stupid that they'd immediately agree with and concede things they like to trannies despite claiming to hate them. Anons are incredibly fucking stupid nowadays though...
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so what time am I supposed to pop the egg?
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>>559575393
there's not much to get
max health subtracts from enemy and is added to you. max health gained is also added to current health (so it's basically a heal)
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>okay so now you gotta buy counterspell
>and spiritbreaker
>and rusted barrel
>and disarming hex
>and curse
>and knockdown
>every match
good game design
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>>559575562
When you feel like you're ready, sis <3
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Expect mirage 100% PR/BR next night shift.
Absolutely insane character now.
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>>559574186
I didn't ignore parts I didn't like. You told me you weren't worth arguing with and I agreed with you on that despite not liking it.
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If you ban any of the new heroes apart from Rem or Celeste you are certified sub 60 IQ.
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>return fire nerfed
what the fuck
I was the ONLY person buying this item
stop hate criming me
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>>559575601
COME HOME WHITE MAN
MARVEL RIVALS IS THERE FOR YOU
NO NEED TO BUY SILLY ITEMS, ONLY YOUR SKILL MATTERS
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Is this the first case in Deadlock history so far where pro league niggers collectively psyoped the devs into completely dumpstering a hero?
>Play tournament
>Pick Silver every time
>Underperform every time
>Lose every time
>"Actually Silver is the strongest hero in the game right now which is why she's #1 prio every match. You shitlows just don't understand, she only did poorly because the enemy team countered her"
>Devs buy it
>Nerf Silver
>Repeat
>Repeat
>Repeat until she's been left a quadruple amputee
Absolutely demonic manipulation op.
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>>559575650
IT WAS TRANS PROPAGANDA THE WHOLE TIME
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>>559575689
Didn't really get nerfed, it won't headshot anymore but will also not randomly miss. Its just more reliable now.
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>>559575738
Mirage has a very strong presence on nightshift and was basically a "countdown to win" with his scaling and literally every part of his kit got BUFFED a crazy amount.
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>>559575738
I also like how Shiv got nerfed while also being the worst character in the entire game. Really funny stuff
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>>559575002
The changes are net buff to the gun build actually but you do you
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Wraith, Mirage and Kelvin are brokenly op and meta defining? Is it 2024?
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>>559575681
Bit of a delayed concession but I accept it nonetheless, thanks
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>3 late game gun carries were generously buffed today
Hmmm....
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>>559575738
mirage who gets picked 100% of the time gets only buffs btw
>>559575893
yup
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If you play Haze I genuinely hope u get run over
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>>559575547
her laning got worse and love bite feels weak as fuck now
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>>559575660
I mean Mirage is already picked a lot so that's not a surprise, but I'm expecting Wraith and Pocket to show up more as well.
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>>559576015
Play Abrams and run her over yourself
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>Getting stomped by the enemy team
>We beat them and grab rejuv
>storm their base and I finish 4/11
>Spam ez at the win screen
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>>559576015
How's Seeker lil bro? Haze has been shit for ages.
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>>559576069
>>559576069
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>haven't seen any actual theorycrafter/analyst/pro gamer say anything nice about the patch
lol lmao
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>>559576113
doom tranny hypebeast community
we don't have analysts, we have influencers
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>>559575972
I thought you already accepted it?
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>>559576015
just played against a haze fighting non-stop from start of lane, dying trying to steal our camps at like 5 minutes, killing my laner but never getting the kill itself and just quitting 10 minutes in
are those the players crying that counter building is literally satan, how hard can it be to not try to be the protagonist
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>>559576202
Yeah, but you decided to randomly offer another for some reason, why would I not happily take that one too?
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>>559576143
>buzzwords
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>>559575601
t. coward who cant just do damage and win

i pity you
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>>559574453
He's rancid dogshit with it anyways
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what does the golden egg smell like
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chat are the buffs from the golden buddahs permanent or do they fade after x amount of mins
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>>559562145
>celeste was the most annoying before them
>got her air control buffed and basically nothing else
I'm just glad I'm allowed to even try and ban her now
I don't understand how people don't see her as the most annoying character in the game



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