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Visual Novel General #7473

This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help
4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL
5. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/
https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png
https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader

>Need a novel with a specific element?
https://vndb.org/g

>Download Links:
https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-links

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stone cold 0 interest in cripples, doesn't even answer
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We fucking love Sei Shoujo!
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>>559728486
Someone save this post for posterity, for it is correct.

Carried by music, art and girls goofing around.
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I rewrite myself into a woman.
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>>559740987
fuck catbox ghost file issues
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How do you reply without sounding mad?
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Best imouto of all time?
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>>559741385
Is that from the Manosaba translation. I wasn't here during this drama arc
If so, pretty good English. Nice job desu
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Which one of you fossils was this?
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>>559741385
You ask if they've seen the new fantranslation
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>>559741446
Nah, 1st game sucks too so that alone means she can't be the best.
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>>559741446
>Best imouto of all time?
No
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>>559741446
>grooms a catgirl harem just for (You)
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>>559741446
Sum-
>>559741741
Very compelling argument
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>>559741385
>>559741616
>Two fan "TLs"
>Both read like shit
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>>559741706
Only sucky part of first game was the choices mechanic for the endings being so convoluted that you needed a guide
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>>559741896
madarame ikaku...
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>>559741713
Hot take: Nanami mogs Amane.
>bigger tits
>competent at her job
>super hacker
>better personality, nice girl instead of an annoying mesugaki brat
>doesn't have BPD

inb4
>NBR
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>>559742080
>blonde
immediate dogshit
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>>559742080
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>>559742080
>nice girl
shit personality
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>>559742080
Nice buzzwords
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>>559742114
>threatening you with NTR
Nice pink you got there, broski.
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>>559742278
That's hot though
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Perpetually amazed by how little it takes to offend butas
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>>559742278
HFK
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>>559742328
pink moment
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>>559742080
I like Nanami too... But Amane is more interesting and is BR
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>>559742413
>offending the nicest posters we have for no reason
We should all impale you
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>>559741869
masabro...
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Some butas give other butas a bad name
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Death to SeiGays!! I can't believe I was tricked into reading this snuff, troon filled trash. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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What is this foid on about
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>>559743637
This character is an assault on the eyes
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>>559740598
Reiji should've become a siscon instead
>>559741446
Absolutely. Without her reiji would've killed himself or worse
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>>559743637
Hot
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>This character is an assault on the eyes
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>>559743832
Not even best girl in her own VN, that's Orie.
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>>559743920
*Fumika
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>>559743920
Kurumi*
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Kumika...
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>>559743914
What's /vn/'s favorite Simpsons episode?
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>>559743920
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>>559744082
>shitsons
no one cares
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>>559743920
It's funny how nobody attempts to claim the lead heroine, Noa, is best girl
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I am about to try Baldr Sky in a while and I was curious on what to expect from it in terms of overall tone compared to other mecha VN's such as Muv-Luv and Muramasa.
Muv-Luv being a game that begins with a romcom setup and then shifts a life and death drama with a hard sci-fi angle, and Muramasa being well more or less the typical VN NitroPlus+ is known for.

From what little I have gathered it's a more sci-fi thing, maybe more closer to a LN or shonen (non-derogatory) in terms of overall tone? I imagine you being able to actually control the protagonist in combat plays into that as well.
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>>559744082
>kinosons
we all care
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>>559744132
things only zoomers say episode 57
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>>559743920
>Orie
Yeah, the vndb poll does not agree with you....
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>>559744191
Blondes are shit.
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>>559744324
>vndb polls
Always wrong
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>>559744324
>b-but muh polls
>AI retard
lol
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>>559744457
>>559744462
feels good to win arguments with data
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anyone who says "blondes are shit" is low IQ
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anyone who says "(white woman) won" is low IQ
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I feel bad for VNstacy. She just wanted to have fun with us on a Sunday evening but she decided to read SCATGOD Sei Shoujo, and all while everyone was making fun of Mumbaimasa

Everything went bad for VNstacy
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>>559744203
It's more sci-fi, yeah. People often compare it to SAO.
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https://vndb.org/v16759
New kino just got (M)TL'd.
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Jiggy in 5 mins
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>>559745334
>third image
battler...
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>>559745421
Sir, this is a trap general.
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>>559745334
>that third image
what does this have to do with anything
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>>559745164
where's this blob from
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>>559745506
He meant to say "Kageaki..."
That's Mizuhi afte the bandits were done with her
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>>559745585
That's a man, so it's Beato
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>>559745367
https://jigex.com/rUAUJ
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>>559745334
is ryuu indonesians doing these translations themselves? this isn't anywhere else except ryuu
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>>559745865
I used to suspect so but no they're just particularly quick (usually) at getting links for new releases (particularly shit like MTL/fanTL).
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>>559745585
That's a man, so it's ChaCha
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>>559745989
Then where the fuck is that from? Who did it? There's no credit
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>>559745989
>>559746119
Never mind
https://f95zone.to/threads/otokonoko-love-play-otoko-no-ko-jidai.290202/
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>>559746265
Good job. Was trying to find an example I had recently found but was failing at it. They seem to be slow at naming the credit/source (inb4 intentional).
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>>559745536
unless terminalia
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:)
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>>559746383
not intentional, they just don't give a shit
(takes like 5 seconds to credit someone)
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I can't relate to any woman who has more than two friends
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>>559746593
Thanks, I'll add it to the ever-growing backlog.
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>>559746593
We want the meat
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This vn I'm playing right now is really bad
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>>559747059
>he fell for muramasa
Sorry anon, we are just in jest when we recommend it!
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>>559747059
We warned you about henpri
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>>559747059
>he actually picked up umineko
oh no no no
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>>559747130
>>559747149
>>559747224
all 3 of these are good
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>>559740598
Toko...
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All-ages future status?
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>>559747282
wonning~
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>>559747282
https://vndb.org/v61093
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>>559747269
except masa
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>>559747269
except neko
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>>559747270
is this the retranslation? Surely you are not desecrating it this way...
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>>559747269
except pri
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>>559747490
What's the matter bro? You don't like Toko from The Shell?
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>>559747282
Same as the Rance X status. Never ever.
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>>559745752
Finished in 22:44, thanks for joining
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>>559747282
Your troon future status?
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>>559747372
this looks so fucking bad
but it better than erogesloppa
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>>559747372
holy kino
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me and the boys on a sunday doing the jiggies.
looking for the nipple piece to go with the rest of the booba
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>>559747684
>thinks gacha slop is better than eroge
Are you from planet shiteater by chance?
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>>559747664
My cock is still intact but I do like to pretend I'm a little girl sometimes.
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>>559747575
I suddenly had a thought that it would be quite hot to have Toko fill up my car with gasoline, but I don't even have a car. Might be some kinda traumatic shock reaction
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>>559747854
they are innovating
erogesloppa do nothing but repeat same thing every game
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Can a single gacha give me this? Highly doubt it.
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>>559748123
She fucking
Fucking she won
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>>559748123
Lost to meido
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>>559748072
>gacha slop
>innovating
>Setup is a derivative of self insert protagonist surrounded by harem of girls fighting to save the world
>Uses AI to extract max profit from dumbfuck gamblers
You just might be cooked anon
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Draw and quarter all gachanogs.
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>>559748123
Is the girl on the right sexually involved?
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>>559744294
>posting an edit
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>>559748123
>heroine's daughter is just a loli clone of her
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>posting an 'eck post
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>>559748769
Why wouldn't she be? Were you hoping the heroine got blacked?
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>>559748649
retard
https://x.com/kariyawakana777/status/2029085380889461101
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>>559748769
Kino every time
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>>559748950
Fuck off
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>we use 'eck
ladies... you are both cringe
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>>559748769
And that's a good thing.
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She's only a child
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i love all-ages
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>>559749318
MHBST
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>>559748989
retard
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>>559749626
Mind your own business noob
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>>559749701
stop forcing this green-ish hobo and then I will
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HOLY
FUCKING
KINO
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>goHELLgo GO delayed to June
I was excited to play it this month...
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>>559750242
>Dohna Dohna but without the porn
Why? Dohna Dohna wasn't even a fun game
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>>559750367
its better because no pornslop
all ages future is winning
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>karenturd btfo yet again
love
to
see
it
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>>559750420
Do the world a favor and kill yourself
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>>559750367
Fun gameplay and artstyle
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>>559750557
You will never be an eroge protagonist. Your life is all-ages and your reading material needs to reflect that you incel chud.
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>>559750557
wot no
i live to read more all ages KINO comeing this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPvD0CHotkg
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>jop hours are full of hatred and vitriol
this is what happens, kids
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For me, it's Iron Man 3
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JOPs love all-ages.
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>>559750989
>JOPs love getting cucked
We know
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JOPs love oppai.
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I miss old JOPs.
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JOPs love traps.
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I miss Kuonanon
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I miss Makinasis
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>>559751072
There is literally nothing wrong with NTR.
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>>559750367
Definitely a waste, but that's just how the industry is these days. Treasure the companies that still make good eroge content
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>>559751415
Me on the left
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Speaking of all-ages is GINKA or KANADE any good? I liked ATRI and these seem similar enough.
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I miss Makinasis
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>>559751431
>still make good eroge content
there is none more
only slop release now .. miss the 2000s
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I'm not sure if you guys talked about it but Shiravune patched those two recent Atelier Kaguya games a few days ago so the SFX and BGM works properly now. At least on Steam anyway.
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I miss Karenschizo
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I miss Dull
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How many of you still believe?

How many are still alive?
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I don't miss anyone and would be happier if a lot of you died
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I'll miss Kimikabro
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I miss a lot of people, but I'll try to aim better next time.
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Imagine being born with the 2digit IQ to waste time or god forbids, pay money for AI generated gachaslop
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>>559751563
sucks to be you I guess. Some of us are enjoying new releases
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>>559751749
I'm not a believer but I am still alive
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>>559751890
enjoy ur slop.. i will mtl good stuff from 2005
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>>559751604
No one misses you, not even yourself.
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I miss covid-19. 2020 was a good year.
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>>559752020
Same. Best year ever.
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>>559750013
>>559750534
>>559752012
Take a chill pill
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This is my backlog. I've had it since around the time I got into VNs which was about 15 years ago. I remove VNs I've read and add to it over time so it's a snapshot of my tastes and what kind of things came out over time. They're in a 'general' order of priority but it's very fluid. For example, I think Demonbane used to be closer to the top but I have it last these days because I don't really feel like reading that until the sequel is translated.

Man I've had Kazoku Keikaku in here forever
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>>559752095
>he’s also a Haruhitard
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>>559752020
It was legitimately great. I don't say that because I wish for old people to be ageicided. I just liked the uh, peace and quiet. Yeah
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>>559752189
>Haruhitard
Where do you newfags come from?
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>>559750242
Wym delayed? It's been out for months
>>559750420
>Better
See pic attached
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The quality of this general always increases in my presence.
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>look for Haruhi videos on youtube
>they're all from 2007
...nyoron...
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>>559750420
>all ages future is winning
Haven't the companies that tried to go all ages either died, trapped in the gacha mines or went back to 18+?
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>>559752490
JOP-dono...
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>>559752490
So true, Karenbro
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>>559750726
>literal who company that makes ges about vtumors
>You'll want to jerk off to these girls when your simp energy goes out of control and depend on doujin artists or AI to give you release. But you forgot that you trooned out not too long ago and what once was your small dick has been replaced by a rotting smelly gash that you cannot use to bring yourself to climax
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>>559752528
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Is it safe...?
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>>559752691
my oshi has sexes with me daily
skill issue
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Why is Japanese such a cringey language
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>>559752801
But enough about Shitlish.
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>>559752801
Better than Chinese
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>>559752853
Very low bar.
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Lolige future
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>>559752786
Your dreams don't count anon. At least if your slop ge was an eroge your claim would hold some water but alas, such is the life of an all-age faggot
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>>559752801
But enough about Korean
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>>559752908
No one cares about lolishit kek. lolifags dont even get games
when they get games no one buys them
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>sensei heroine: "normally, covering a sensei's face with semen is against the rules, but..."
bitch, show me where that's written in the handbook
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>>559752853
I mean chinese languages like mandarin/cantonese are probably the worst languages in the world
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>>559752992
>forgetting about indian languages
off to the loo!
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>>559753038
don't say that, sir
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Hentai Prison is the BEST Visuals of Novels ever made...
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>>559753038
i don't know anything about them
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>there will never be a VN as good as Muramasa ever again
Why live?
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>>559747282
Nonexistent
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>>559753132
Maybe on planet dogshit
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>>559752963
I care.
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>>559753316
She's the won
Fucking winning the won
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>>559753260
Definitely on planet NTR
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>>559753038
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I need more VNs with swords and sword autism.
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Winner
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>>559752965
It's the fetish of breaking the rules than there being actual rules, you absolute buffon
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Payment processors are not pleased with some of the posters in this general. I think it's time we straighten ourselves out and show that we can be an upstanding general and consume all-ages.
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>>559753674
Whats the point of breaking made up rules in your head schizo faggot
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>>559752963
cause they all moved to gachas and doujins
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>>559753659
Is this ge good? I don't like the fact the MC is basically support while the girls are the fighters unless I'm wrong
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>>559752908
Lmao what future
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>>559752963
The president fucks children. Loli kino is more popular than ever.
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Don't say "it's nothing"
Say "I was wrong"
I don't wanna hear any excuses
This is ripping my chest apart
If you really love me
Then just forget that girl
And take me someplace far, far away
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Real gacha and vocashit hours.
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>>559753962
It's more of a satanic ritual thing for these rich elites
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tummy
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>>559753727
>I think it's time we straighten ourselves out and show that we can be an upstanding general and consume all-ages.
https://files.catbox.moe/qdoyku.png
my thoughts on the matter
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>>559754424
>condoms
gross
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Any VN where you play VN
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>>559754424
I like your thots. Please continue sharing your thots.
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>>559754498
Eve Bethel
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>>559753727
https://litter.catbox.moe/j8ljvpmjcmezm4ml.jpg
my thoughts on the matter
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>>559754498
You are being played right now...
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I like moege and vtubers
The only two things that bring me joy
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>>559754630
Very stimulating thoughts
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>>559754848
AIsir...
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>>559754195
Needs some more chub
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>>559754848
You need to embrace Niconico Gosanke
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>completely tanned, implying she tans in the nude
T-the purity... it's overwhelming...
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Manosaba is the winner.
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>>559755072
She's black
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That's it. If I wanna jerk off to every h-scene of every VN and finish my backlog. I can't be on /vn/. Sarabada
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>>559755305
Win what?
WIN FUCKING WHAT ANON?
THE SHARKNADO OF VISUAL NOVELS AWARD?
ARHHHHHHHHH
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If you read all-ages you won't have to worry about jerking off.
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>>559755354
The teen voice of VN medium
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>>559755316
With that hair? Even disregarding the color, it's still impossible.
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>>559755468
Some of us prefer keeping our dicks and not trooning out
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>>559755485
Okay, then she's a jeet with dyed blonde hair and colored contacts
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>>559755764
You do realize you can troon out while keeping your dick intact? Most tranners do the same
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>>559755072
She's a Dark Elf. A Dark Elf! pien
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>>559755468
Someone clearly hasn't read Island if you think that's true
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>>559755764
This is /vg/. Who the fuck do you think you're kidding?
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Rape is moe
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>>559756156
I prefer Himawari.
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>MC broke his arm and the heroine decides to take care of him out of guilt
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>>559756045
Sena just overreacts a lot
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>>559755764
if your dick's the only thing that's stopping you from transitioning I think I have good news for you
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>>559756312
>girl blindfolds herself instead of the other way around
is she retarded
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there's no point in a dick if it never goes inside a pussy
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>>559756408
No, the MC didn't want her to see him naked
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No. This is Moe.
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>>559756527
then stuff it in a flat cage and spread your bussy
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>>559756527
You don't have to sit down to pee. That's pretty nice.
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On /vr/ they're talking about Princess Maker and they're like "it's just an innocent raising sim you fucking pdf!"
kek
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>>559756527
That's not an issue If you're a JOP because learning Japanese attracts pussy
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>>559756527
That's not an issue if you have money because how are you not using onaholes yet? You need more?
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>>559757156
lol
lmao, even
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>>559757151
Didn't they remove a couple endings from the Steam version? It's not that innocent.
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>>559757409
shes sleep
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>>559757219
If you're using sex toys might as well please yourself with a dildo. There's no need for your dick at all.
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>>559757495
>He doesn't insert a dildo into his urethra
Amateur hours on /vn/.
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>he actually learned an entire language to jerk off more
>he's actually proud of it too
JO.....
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>>559757890
i cant live without ohogoe asmr
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>>559757923
What does your gf think of that
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It's JO(P)ver...
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Why is tanaka romeo's output in the 00s so different than anything that came out after that
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JOPs aren't real. They are mythical beings that only exist in folklore from olden times before AI translated everything. Kinda like fairies. Meaning you should put them in a jar and cum on them.
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>>559757923
this, オホー netori ASMR is peak.
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>asmr
it just reminds me that the people speaking are 40-year-old rat women
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It's so funny that the English loanward in Japanese for gay is "homo" which makes some sense of course but the loanword for straight is "normal". It's not like hetero or something
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I need to pick one of these four obese chibis.
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>>559758425
puree
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>>559758385
You're right, that's really funny
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>>559740598
>Innogrey cucks be like nooo the cute black haired himecut died!!! Now I only have 8 left!!!
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>>559756730
Luv Sakura Sakura
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So which of the Atelier Kaguya titles do I prioritize? Lovejuiced or the Mommy one?
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>>559758653
Mamagoto
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>>559744203
Cyberpunk + Shounen. It is hard not to enjoy this unless someone abhors Sci-fi.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Spj-CWlp6I4&list=RDSpj-CWlp6I4&start_radio=1&pp=ygUPYmFsZHIgc2t5IGppaGFkoAcB
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>>559758653
I've never really heard anyone talk about tonari no love juice, but plenty of talk about mamagoto.
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>introduce character that's "what if we combined Lelouch and Oberstein, made her a girl, and made her evil"
>no route
Holy fuck what a mistake, this is like if Touka had no route in Nukitashi.
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>>559758594
I love half of Sakura Sakura.. Classmate Sakura and pic related were good, the other two were not.

The bromance between the guy characters was actually pretty nice
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>>559755305
It sure will win the EOP award soon
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>>559758737
She has a horse face.
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>>559758725
Not mamagoto, talking about this one that got translated
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>>559758918
I know. (The other guy didn't know)
Mamagoto is my answer
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>>559741446
I don't know about best of all time, but people told me to read Natsuzora no Perseus for the imouto and they were fucking right.
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>JOP heroines have a horse face
uwaa....
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Ahhh... horizontal paizuri...
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I want more heroines in wheelchairs.
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>>559758892
>>559759072
The game's faces look pretty bad. They look fine in CGs but when it's just regular sprites the game has super aggressive and kinda poorly implemented live2d so the faces are constantly moving and like 95% of the time it's not great .You get used to it, I've read worse
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EOP heroines onegai
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>>559759174
Read AkaGoei trilogy
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>>559752180
>Kazoku Keikaku
Make it a priority.
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>>559759174
I love translated heroines from translated VNs!!!!
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>heroine had E cup tits when starting middle school
uoh
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>>559759378
Stupid hair bow
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I want to put heroines in wheelchairs. Preferably making their legs permanently numb with my cock.
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>>559759406
>used goods
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>>559759406
Kazoku Keikaku has TWO good routes.
>>559759536
The used goods heroine is one of the good ones.
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>>559758784
I liked both of the Sakuras, didn't really care much for the other MC's girls
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>>559759458
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>>559759174
Kamige got translated recently
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でかい
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>>559759698
Was the TL any good?
>recently
Brother it was three years ago
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What kind of H scenarios do you want to see more in eroge?
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How many anons here finished gaslight bullet? Is it worth rereading MWA 1 and 2 for it if you barely remember the plot?
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>>559759698
>kamige
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>300+ replies
>Not a single interesting VN posted
Yep. Back to my gacha general.
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>>559759746
Do you want plot resolution? Read it
Do you want satisfying romantic conclusions for the heroines? Lol, lmao.
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>>559759437
Your pic related is best girl
I was so disappointed in the final chapter of that. It was going so well until there
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>>559759831
How bad are the romantic portions lol? Are the H-scenes integrated into the main plot or are they detached?
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>>559759746
>if you barely remember the plot?
Yeah, it'll come back to you, and several important things from past games are brought up again. And you don't need to worry about remembering anything from the side routes because those side plots don't go anywhere at all.
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>>559759905
>linear VN
>plot ends
>pick a girl
>hope you enjoy like half an hour of super rushed romance
>credits
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>>559759815
Stay there
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>Matsuri just randomly drops the news that her and the MC started dating with no buildup
>Literally every girl in the room gets instantly depressed
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this general is nothing but gaslight bullets
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>>559759728
Oh shit how did I forget the new Kaguyage.
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>>559759905
There's no routes at all and you basically just get some extra scenes before the final battle with a H-scene and then there's a second in a detached after story.
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>>559759743
FFM with a yuri couple and they kiss each other during the h-scene
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>>559760004
Do they ever go white water rafting or what is all this junk for?
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if /vn/ users were born in the Middle East they'd be in ISIS or Hezbollah. And I'm not kidding when I say that lmao
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>>559760149
I don't see how that's relevant?
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>>559759743
MC making the heroine drink his piss straight from his dick or just pissing on her after she has collapsed from orgasming too much.
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>heroine is revealed to actually be a bird
>her dialogue suddenly becomes recorded bird noises
lol
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I'm going to blogpost some all-ages.
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>>559760149
Anons here are too pussy for those militant orgs but yeah they fit perfectly with the middle eastern cultures given their views on women and virginity
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Karen
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is this gap moe or just moe...
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>everyone else has cool overly magical powers
>MC and his rival get the super power to...swing their sword REALLY hard
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>heroine revealed to be a big poo-poo
>her dialogue becomes the muramasa theme
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>>559760146
They live right next to an ocean, so probably for that
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>>559758784
Both Sakuras were fine
Himari is better as a friend
Akira is cute as a childhood friend, one of the few I like. Naoki was a weaker protag but a fun side character.
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>>559760397
Kino
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>>559760397
When will you blogpost a good ge again?
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I'm going to blogpost.
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>>559760397
Holy shit, look at that X shaped scar on his face! Big alpha male energy right there!
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>>559760478
Make sure it's a JOPge.
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>>559760282
read shigatsu youka
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>>559760478
WEG time, baby
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You should become a babiniku vtuber and read VNs on stream, JOP-dono.
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>>559760506
>Make sure it's a JOPge.
I'm not trans tho.
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>Monkeys! still hasn't released
EOPbros...we are forgotten...
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>>559760458
This VN is supposed to be like 90 hours long so if you consider this one bad, probably like six to eight weeks? After that it's probably albatross or that toku shanghai game that one anon posted yesterday
>>559760480
The fact that MC is such an edgelord is honestly one of the best things about the VN.
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Oppai fans have yet to refute this.
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>>559760478
Blogpost Shin Megami Tensei Devil Survivor - Law route
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>>559760149
>ISIS
NTR enjoyer Kageaki (spiritually, ideologically)
>Hezbollah
Pure moechads (same as the Chinese)

Know the difference.
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>>559760660
When will you play saihate no ima
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>>559760660
He's so cool...
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>>559760634
Harukaze announced Noratoto 3 and the Monkeys!! TL back to back and we haven't heard a peep since. They're probably dead?
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>>559760660
>MC is such an edgelord
I dont remember him being an edgelord at all, he just looks like one
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>>559760767
zech...
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>……はぁ?
>...What?
I'm such a good translator
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>>559760792
>They're probably dead?
Most likely
I remember the poped out some months ago to say they were alive, but nothing else suggest they are
Their main writer literally fucked off to make his own aislop vns
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>>559760792
Sad. I wanted to be a trap.
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>>559760851
He hasn't killed anyone yet but he keeps chopping off arms/legs/fingers and multiple other characters have commented that it's deeply concerning a teenager has absolutely no emotional reaction to maiming another person.
I mean he's not like full-blown edgelord but they're presumably going somewhere with this.
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>>559760767
why do you keep changing your profile pic on xitter? all zoomers seem to have ADHD.
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I'm going to create a sockpuppet LLC and just announce a bunch of translations that will never actually happen and launder money.
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>>559761130
>I'm going to create a sockpuppet LLC and just announce a bunch of translations that will never actually happen and launder money.
How quickly the children forget about /ourguy/ Xev.
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>>559760898
I prefer "hahn?"
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>>559761279
I was shocked when it was found that he's in the Epstein files.
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>>559760767
Ima doesn't seem that good.
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>>559761464
It's one of the most impressive kamige out there.
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>>559761537
That's what you guys said about oretsuba
And you were completely right!
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Thoughts on my taste?
https://vndb.org/u208639
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>2026
>No one has picked up anything from Silky Plus
I too hate money.
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>>559761776
Fuyukuru got announced tho
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>>559761732
how much HRT do you take per day?
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>Mom celebrates her son getting a girlfriend by pranking him and giving him an open box of condoms that she used with his dad recently
kek
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>>559761806
What the fuck? When did this happen?
I can't wait for /vn/ to read it so I can watch them realize it's yuri nukige serious and pretty good detective story futa nukige
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List of JOPs who post here(2026 edition)
>moeanon
>zech-dono
>leafsissy
>that anon from oppaicord
Am I missing anyone else?
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>ech
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dat zech nigga secretly MTLs
i'm in his xitter group chat
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>>559761832
NTR in moege?
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>>559761806
I would've been fine with anything except the yurishit.
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>>559761883
AIsir
Floodsir
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>>559761832
>best design in the ge
>routelet
>mother
many such cases...
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>>559761883
>sissy
isn't that all of them?
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SHUT UP
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Me when I'm trying to play moege and my wife and her boyfriend are having sex too loudly in the other room >>559762091
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>/vn/ is actually just a bunch of discord wars now
we don't like this...
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Any VNs where the MC helps his bro cuck his own dad?
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>>559761806
I bet that JOP who spammed it all the time here is seething.
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>>559762140
Your wife is lucky
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>>559761963
You can read it if you don't like yurige.
Admittedl you have to hold ctrl through like 70% of the VN. But the other bits are still good and worth reading!
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>>559762149
>now
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>>559761883
How many of them are straight?
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Fucking love Kaito. Great protagonist
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>>559761776
Akeiro doko
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>>559762243
I'll still probably read it because I do love Silky Plus but I am disappointed a bit.
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A lesser man reading this VN would probably go
>You're telling me they have a secret underground train that can go at 300 km/h and connects every major city in Japan and apparently this was built entirely in secret exclusively so about 10 high schoolers could use it
But I'm willing to roll with it.
>>
English mystery VNs on Steam from the past few years:
>Beyond R: Rule Ripper
>Birth ME Code
>Blankspace
>Bound Between Desks
>Clean Slate
>CORPSE FACTORY
>Decide 4 God (Out now in full 1.0)
>Detective Instinct: Farewell, My Beloved
>The Divine Deception
>Entropic Float: This World Will Decay And Disappear
>The Game of Fourtune
>Head AS Code (remake)
>Look Inside
>Methods: The Canada Files
>Methods: The Detective Competition
>The Price of Flesh
>Quantum Suicide
>Reaplaced
>Shards of Chaos
>The Specters Desire
>SYNESTHESIA
>Thief's Roulette
>Whispering Memories
>The Zodiac Trial

English mystery VNs on Steam that are to-be-released:
>The Lost Delinquents of Rollings High
>NO MORE WORK FOR ITO
>Ubel
>Underground22
>The Wonderland Killings
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>>559762243
Imagine learning a language just to consume this kind of slop, im glad im an eop.
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>>559762328
Dovac will bring it to us personally only after waiting 10 years after their announcement.
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>>559762918
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>>559762918
The fake ears on their hats look dumb as fuck. Did some porno writer come up with this character design?
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>>559762995
Fuyukuru is a nukige that takes a break for a couple hours to have a story then goes back to being a nukige. It's 70% h-scenes.
Also the ears are probably the most important plot element in the entire VN and I'm not even joking.
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ou shitto I just got spoiled on jopge
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Oh, so one of those obsessed with the kangaroo is this mtler >>559761063
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>>559763197
Not really, actually.
The ears are tracking devices. It's a murder mystery VN. The whole mystery is, since every single student is being tracked at all times and you know nobody entered the room the girl died in, how could she have been killed?
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>>559762918
She's cuter when she has the knife.
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I still can't believe that Aisir is literally only four years younger than Moogy.
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>>559763476
I can't believe that he's - wait, anon, what are you doing? We're both boys, this is wrong! Mnn, chuu, reroooo~
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>>559761580
I want a friend like Azusa, a bond like the members of the sanctuary
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>>559763535
GIWTWM
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>>559763476
It's even more shocking to learn that aisir is apparently older than quof
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>>559763859
That has to make him the oldest poster here, right?
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>>559763909
Visual novels?
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>>559763909
the oldest is mondblut who is 42 yo and is also a mtler kek
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Older men heroines in visual novels...
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Are the Saga Planet VNs besides Kinkoi from NekoNyan any good?
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>>559764442
No
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>>559764442
Hatsuyuki Sakura is still considered their best iirc
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>>559764442
Peaked with Kinkoi I'm afraid
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This isn't my kind of h-scene
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>>559764931
@Footfags
Thoughts on that image?
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>>559765074
Disgust. Worse than smegma.
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>>559762918
how does this compare to the other ururu ges in the series? I remember not really liking natsukomo and akiyume. Still waiting for a working copy of non censored harumade
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>>559762006
is this from fuyukuru?
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>>559764931
How can she say she's your wife if she won't even tongue bathe you?
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>>559765471
what ge?
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>>559763859
Not really. Quof is 31
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>>559742278
It's in the nature of pinks to go after as many cocks as they can. Might as well complain that a scorpion stings.
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>>559765471
That's unhygienic
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>>559763787
If there was such a friend group all the girls would fuck shouji instead of you
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pinks stink
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>>559765484
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1369790/Marshmallow_All_the_Way_Home/
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>>559765627
I am not incel-brained. I want genuine friendship.
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>>559765494
It's interesting how two people of practically the same age can be so different.
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>>559765627
What kind of friend are you that you wouldn't want your bro getting laid?
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>>559765770
>I want genuine friendship.
Don't we all? Haha...
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>>559765552
So is eating dried smegma and drinking piss but Kanon's fit as a fiddle.
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>>559765770
>wants genuine friendship
>Incidentally only wants it to be with cute girls
>Basically fantasizing friendzoning himself
Do all-age butas really?
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>>559765802
They're like, SOOO oldahh diddyahh epsteinophiles skull emoji, and let's be real, it's time for the YOUNG FIRE crew of gen alphas like myself to take over
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>>559765762
>No JC route
The biggest disappointment about this VN
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>>559765930
>>559765930
Someone on the marmalade staff really likes piss drinking, huh?
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>>559765946
>>Incidentally only wants it to be with cute girls
For me, I prefer male friendship.
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>>559765957
Are you still in your 20s or have you already reached your 30s?
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>>559766069
and smegma eating
and rimjobs
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>>559766069
piss is pretty sterile tbf
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Kibou
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>>559762171
What's best is when the father steals his son's wife. That's what happened to my favorite heroine.
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>>559766069
Maybe it's in the contract if you ever try to work with them.
>MUST MIME PISS DRINKING
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>>559766168
which heroine would that be
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>>559766165
I love the moon
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>>559766149
You wouldn't say that about one of my syrupy diabetic pisses after a night of heavy drinking. You could chloroform someone with it.
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>>559765930
Kanon is that kinky? I only read Raiha and the loli senpai's route
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I only read missionary scenes from the protagonists perspective
ctrl everything else
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>>559765509
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>>559765762
I'm surprised this actually made it on Steam. The loli route goes pretty hard.
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>>559766116
and sex friend routes
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God I wish that were me.
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>>559742450
Aren't prostitutes supposed to not kiss their clients?
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>>559766760
they didnt stop me from kissing them
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>>559766596
>tapping out to a Rear Naked Choke
just stand up lol
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>>559766760
Only if they're married.
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They are pretty big. Honestly I liked Karin in short bursts but I don't know if I can handle a whole route centered around her
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>>559767159
>...aren't her beasts a little too big?
vn where mc says the same but without the last two words?
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post some all-ages
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>>559767159
Her eyes are also too big. I'd prefer them if they looked like this.
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Every single time a new character pops up I go what the fuck, they seriously got them in a VN?
I wish Minatosoft was still around to keep doing that
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>>559767234
>>
>reading Akatsuki no Goei
>they all talk like faggy zoomers despite the game coming out in 2008

I really need to learn jap.
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レイプ
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>>559767687
>becoming fluent in a foreign language in order to play porn games
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>>559767687
This is desperate even for JOP bait.
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My gf traced art lmao
She escaped to Greece
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>>559767865
Being fluent to foreign language is always a useful thing.
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>>559767865
Yes.
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>>559767941
Thanks, chatJOP. Real useful vacuum advice.
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>>559767865
>fluent
lol
lmao
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Here's my vacuum advice: Don't stick your dick in a vacuum.
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>>559767941
Why not learn Chinese instead? It will be more useful and there are a number of CVNs.
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Sukuna won
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I get it! I get the reference!
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>>559768071
Because China doesn't appreciate little girls like Japan does.
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OH my god Fusehime you can't say that.
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oh my science
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>>559765770
So you're okay with bro fucking girls in the friend group as long as he's friends with you?
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>>559769325
He and you should Eiffel tower the girls.
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>>559768417
>Next! Hey, Jew!
wtf I can read this.
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Vros what do i do if i cant find a single decent hook in textractor? Im at roadblock and im not studying nihongo for few untranslated vns.
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>>559766069
That staff member and I are kindred spirits.
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The Sea of Trees fight was good, but boy was it similar to the Majikoi common route.
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>>559770027
Textractor is so 2010. Cool kids use Luna Translator these days.

Don't tell me you still use garbro, too?
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>>559770151
>cool kids enjoy using the botnet that logs all their keystrokes and sells all their info
whatever, unc
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straight > braid > ponytail > twintails >>> short hair
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>>559770497
NEGROmasa lost.
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>>559770497
Ponytail > straight.
I have no opinion about the rest other than short hair is worst.
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>>559770176
Dude it's open source. You can let AI audit the codebase and compile your own executable.
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>>559770497
rimjobs!
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>>559770663
bot? why to that post?
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>>559770692
>You can let AI audit the codebase and compile your own executable.
AI really only produces useless retards who can't do anything on their own kek
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>>559771656
there are already studies showing that retards are becoming increasingly retarded
>AI Tools in Society: Impacts on Cognitive Offloading and the Future of Critical Thinking
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>>559772032
Niggas said that about every new technology
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>>559772069
thanks for proving the study right aibro
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>>559772032
>grok is this true
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>>559770497
Shoulder-length hair in a ponytail.
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TwinTails are cutest
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>>559772886
>the tsundere or MSGK has twin-tails
>pull on them doggystyle when you correct them
ORA! ORA! ORA! Do not underestimate me, brat!
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>>559772937
kino
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>>559771809
>giant oppai squish
I beg to differ
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>>559773230
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AIsir is so cool. Is it true his penis is 15cm long?
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>>559773728
>15cm
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>>559748769
If you love a heroine wouldn't you want to bless the world with more of her?
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I can't believe the final Yosuga no Sora patch is finally out.
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Mmn~.... AIsir.....
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>>559774442
AIsir is a gyaru?
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>>559771656
I mean what's the point when AI can slave for us.
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>>559775048
AI will slave for the billionaires, not for you. You will starve, useless meatbag
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>>559761883
thanks for not including me since i'm a JEP
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>>559775130
They'll have to implement UBI in a situation where they replace us with AI/robots. Otherwise people will revolt.
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>>559775204
>Otherwise people will revolt.
That's why they're building bunkers
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>>559775130
We will babysit the AI until it becomes the AGIGod.
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>low-iqers arguing about post-scarcity
lmfao
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>>559775130
Yeah but all my vinnies will be translated. Worth it
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Bros when I ask AI to translate Japanese how does it know that I am asking it to translate and how does it know how to translate
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>>559775438
"ai" doesn't "know" anything, it just auto-completes text
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>>559775438
Just like your brain. Statistics.
You don't know what anything means, really. You brain just learned to trigger certain thoughts in response to an input by bruteforcing the optimal responses for survival
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>>559775509
Yeah that still doesn't answer the question. How does it "know" to auto complete the text in that way based on your query.
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>>559775573
it was trained to do so. they made it autocomplete text randomly and giving it electroshocks when the autocompletion was wrong or a cookie when it was right
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>>559775438
From an LLM's point of views words are actually quantifiable representations in a geometric space. During training, they form complex associations between words from a significant portion of human knowledge available in text form. They again train that shit using human feedback so that it can properly follow instructions.
People say it doesn't "think" it's just prediction. But I that's a retarded debate when even your brain just does statistical predictions. "thinking" and "reasoning" are linguistic confusions caused by reification.
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>>559775573
It's too complicated for you, meat man. You wouldn't understand
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>>559775734
>But I that's a retarded debate when even your brain just does statistical predictions
hello r*ddit but that's not true, getting lil bit tired of this cope
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>can't make soundposts anymore cause they only last 3 days
>so even more of a waste of a time than the usual waste of time that /vn/ is
Not sure I can take any more of this, bwos.... if I can't make my soundposts I am OUTski
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>>559775795
We're all meat automata
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>>559775203
>Just Extremely Pathetic
floodtroon...
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>he doesn't know that any remotely competent poster already has all soundposts filtered
Sis...
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>>559775795
Sometimes reddit is correct
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>>559775853
>soundtroons BTFO
/vn/ can finally heal
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>>559775905
>missing the most fun part of /vn/
scared of your boss hearing "bwehhh" on your phone, wageGOD?
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>outs xirself as a phonefag
lol...soundsfags just keep sounding themselves
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>>559775868
maybe but we can't say that for certain so
>>559775925
using that as an argument just to dismiss llm criticism is peak reddit

llms are DOGSHIT and not real ai, and i'm saying this as somebody who uses codex daily. thankfully we are entering the recursive self-improvement loop this year so maybe codex 6.7 will actually cook a proper agi that doesn't need 10 minutes to answer you if 9.11 >9.9 or whatever
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>>559776019
scared of your boss hearing "bwehhh" on your desktop, wageGOD?
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>bot already broke
uwa~
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>>559775734
>But I that's a retarded debate when even your brain just does statistical predictions. "thinking" and "reasoning" are linguistic confusions caused by reification.
yeah who cares as long as it does stuff competently. the problem is that doesn't but it's still better than namaiki ass junior devs.
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>>559776045
floodtroon...>>559771656
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>>559776158
what?
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>>559776102
do you keep the dildo in your ass while you're fixing the code or no?
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>>559776205
meant for >>559776048 as they're the bot
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>>559776045
it's not dismissing criticism. i don't think it's a proper criticism and all these abstract debates like "does llms think or not", "are they conscious or not" do is bring confusion than clarity. AGI is also a dumb concept.
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>>559776264
>it's not dismissing
>dismisses "do llm thing" debates
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>>559776303
FOR THE LEEEEEEEX
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>>559776382
Arbies don't look anywhere near that gay though. How'd that game (?) manage to make RoboCop look that gay?
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>>559776334
We have to dismiss retarded low iq debates.
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You can really tell when flood wakes up huh
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>>559776456
actually it very important for people to know the limitations of llms, because if you are planning to offload your decision-making on them you should at the very least know how retarded they are
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Hmm can you make a regex that filters lowercasers? Or do I have to make a userscript for that?
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>>559776516
lilsis wakes up shitposts something on /jp/ and then comes back here
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>>559776583
ask chatgpt retard
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>>559776636
I don't want my brain to atrophy
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>>559776662
Based.
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>>559776540
If you have to know their limitations you have be more specific and scientific in how you formulate these things than npc cattle tier "bruh it's just auto complete it doesn't think", "bruh our brains are special and they're not just statistical machines". That's not how you describe problem statements and test things in ML field.
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>>559776662
can't get any worse than this if you have to ask such dumb questions about regex in a visual novel thread
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>>559776696
I was just thinking out loud to trigger you. It worked.
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>lowercasesis melty
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>>559776694
>"bruh our brains are special and they're not just statistical machines"
i never claimed that, i'm just saying that saying the opposite of that is also wrong

>you have be more specific and scientific in how you formulate these things than npc cattle tier "bruh it's just auto complete it doesn't think",
no you don't, npc cattle can't understand anything more nuanced

>>559776746
concession accepted
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Reminder that floody didn't understand that Okabe overwrites his memories with a fucking cell phone lmao.
Maybe go easy on the AI use and moisturize that raising brain of yours
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please give me motarousloppa read order so i can fuck off and read something instead of shitposting
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I'm feeling lonely and depressed again. Reading about VN characters flirting with each other is only making me kill myself. Is it over for me?
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>>559776897
I accept your confession. See me after school on the rooftop
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>>559776897
Ask the old jops... oh wait, you don't know any of them KEKAROOOOO
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>>559776897
No one cares about that cartelsloppa writer.
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>>559776950
You're not self inserting hard enough
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Ask quof so you don't embarrass yourself again.
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>>559777078
who?
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>>559776897
ask chatgpt retard
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>>559777138
Sam...
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>>559777038
I can't seem to forget about myself for peak self insertion. I just end up comparing myself with the protagonist and when he does shit I wouldn't, it only amplifies the fact that I'll never interact with women the way he does. For some strange reason this issue doesn't happen when I try to self insert as the heroine but I am still not that pathetic so I don't do that.
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>>559777129
The one you were stalking the other day out of spite
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>>559777138
chatgpt doesn't know it. i know this because i know how llms works so motarousloppa 1. isn't in their training data so it hallucinates and 2. there's no db with those so the internet search can't find it.

i might try deep reasearch

>>559777205
i just fact-checking him out of my sense of truth-seeking
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>>559777225
>there's no db with those so the internet search can't find it.
Why not just scrape the data from jopcords and /jp/ archives
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>>559777189
First you have to realize that there is no self. Therefore you're as much this body as you're the MC.
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>>559777298
i keep forgetting about /jp/ archives and i don't use cord
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>>559777225
>i just fact-checking him out of my sense of truth-seeking
I know, I can see that you are completely obsessed with everything those guys read or play now.
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>>559777374
Just give it access to kastelcord
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wait, I think I now remember the cartel jops talking about motarou as this blackpilled incel writer who writes incelkino. that was like ages ago.
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>there is no self
only schizo NPCs say this
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>>559777541
Are you not only obsessed with the kangaroo, but also with them?
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>>559777637
This. I have multiple selves.
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>>559777408
i'm only obsessed with kino
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>>559777680
That anon is particularly obsessed with Kastel.
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To talk about this work’s plot in depth is, honestly, extremely difficult. Motarou is extremely well-read – such that the second world you visit has Schopenhauer join as a companion with the surrounding setting reflecting his philosophy – and I do not for a second think myself to be educated enough to fully comprehend everything in this game. I’ve read Japanese reviews of Motarou’s most acclaimed work, the Dogma series, and many discuss their inability to even understand what the lines are saying, especially when Buddhist philosophy gets involved. Still, despite the number of NPCs which mystified me with their cryptic memes and philosophical musings, I feel like I have a good grasp on the plot itself, and it’s fantastic. I don’t want to give away much, but at times while reading I felt genuinely shaken, and fearful of what was coming next.
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nooticing that jops always "have a good grasp on the plot itself but don't want to give away much" when talking about jopgems
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>>559777953
not anymore. i think i used to make fun of him a lot like around 2019-21
i don't even know what he does these days.

>>559777680
kangaroo?
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At least remove the en dash when you use AI retard
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>>559778169
it's from a 2001 archive post retard lmao
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>>559778095
Bro... you're literally on kastelcord and constantly lurking everything they say there kek
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>>559778214
i was banned tho
you're probably thinking of someone else
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>>559778308
I know perfectly well who you are
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SEA hours...
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We won
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So, why is it that after all these years /vn/ continues to worship all these fags? What causes this phenomenon?
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>>559778539
It's two homos, at most three, anon.
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>>559776096
The fuck is wrong with her?
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>>559776881
A Pajeet Kurisu's legs would be too hairy to wear tights
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>>559776881
the phone is just the final step of the chain so i wasn't wrong

also sorry for reading it 10 years ago and not remembering every single detail lil zoom zoom
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https://x.com/gi___to/status/2030936868486013147
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>>559778539
The phenomenon you're describing in the /vn/ (Visual Novels general on 4chan's /vg/ board) community appears to stem from a mix of longstanding cultural divides, envy-driven resentment, and the anonymous, meme-fueled nature of 4chan itself. Based on discussions across VN enthusiast spaces, here's a breakdown of likely contributing factors:
1. Gatekeeping and Elitism in the VN Hierarchy
The VN community has a well-documented tier system of perceived "legitimacy" in how people consume content. At the top are JOPs, a tongue-in-cheek term for those proficient enough in Japanese to read untranslated visual novels directly in their original language). Translators—often former or current JOPs who localize VNs into English—sit alongside them as gatekeepers of quality and access. Below them are EOPs (those reliant on official or fan translations), and at the bottom are MTLers (users of machine translation tools like DeepL, Google Translate or AI, which are often inaccurate for nuanced Japanese text).
JOPs and translators are sometimes portrayed as elitists who look down on "lesser" consumers, dismissing MTL as not "real" reading and criticizing EOPs for waiting on translations that may never come or for settling for subpar localizations. This breeds resentment, especially from MTLers, who feel invalidated or attacked for using accessible tools to enjoy content that's otherwise locked behind language barriers. On /vn/, this manifests as obsessive threads or posts fixating on JOPs/translators as boogeymen, even if those individuals haven't engaged with 4chan in years.
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Oh hey I missed this
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/ALxfIWv6mFfcBCnAr-s02g/

Anon translated Sakura Musubi. It would seem that there are some mysterious anons here who make AI patches.
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>>559778380
okay??? schizophrenia i guess
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>>559778963
2. Envy and Access Inequality

A core driver is simple jealousy: JOPs and translators have access to a vast library of untranslated VNs (thousands more than what's available in English), allowing them to discuss, critique, or spoil content that most anons can't experience firsthand. This creates a power imbalance where JOPs can "flex" their knowledge or opinions, leading to feelings of exclusion among EOPs and MTLers.
MTLers, in particular, resent this because their method is a workaround for not knowing Japanese, but it's frequently mocked by JOPs/translators for mangling plots, dialogue, or cultural nuances. Discussions highlight how this resentment turns into targeted hostility, with MTLers accusing JOPs of hoarding knowledge or sabotaging community growth by discouraging translations.

3. Historical Grudges and Influencer Legacy

Many of the "obsessed-over" figures are old-guard influencers from the early 2010s VN scene, like Moogy (a prominent critic and translator associated with groups like TLWiki), Clephas (a prolific reviewer), or Conjueror, who were once active on 4chan but distanced themselves over a decade ago due to toxicity or professional shifts (e.g., moving to official localization work). Their past posts, tier lists, or criticisms (e.g., Moogy's VN translation difficulty rankings) are still parroted or debated endlessly on /vn/, turning them into eternal scapegoats.
The lack of direct contact amplifies the obsession—without pushback, anons mythologize these figures as symbols of everything wrong with the community (e.g., "elitist JOPs ruining translations" or "abandoning the scene"). This is exacerbated by "sheep mentality," where users blindly echo old opinions from these influencers without critical thought, perpetuating cycles of drama.
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>>559778963
>>559779038
Shut the fuck up, you striped-sock-wearing, HRT-taking cuck
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Twins route didn't disappoint. Nice tugging of tears and heartstrings (not of the penis!). I'm a sucker for forbidden love and some inter-personal struggles (within reason). My inner-buta is satisfied with the route. Time to play imouto route 1 (then imouto route 2 after it). Buhi~...!
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>>559779038
4. 4chan's Anonymous Culture Amplifying Toxicity

/vn/ thrives on anonymity, which encourages venting, shitposting, and meme-ification of grudges without accountability. What starts as minor complaints (e.g., a bad translation or JOP superiority) snowballs into obsessive threads, often revived cyclically even years later. The board's isolation from broader VN spaces (like Reddit's r/visualnovels or Fuwanovel forums) allows echo chambers where resentment festers unchecked.
Broader VN community observations note similar toxicity elsewhere, but /vn/'s format makes it particularly prone to fixating on absent figures—it's less about rational discourse and more about communal catharsis through ridicule.

Overall, this isn't unique to /vn/; similar divides exist in other niche hobby communities (e.g., anime subs vs. dubs debates). The obsession persists because it fills a social void in an otherwise fragmented scene, where language barriers and slow localization paces heighten frustrations. If anything, it highlights how VN fandom's passion often tips into tribalism, with MTLers bearing extra brunt as the "easiest" target for purist scorn.
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>>559778963
>>559779038
feels good being a JEP
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>>559779083
Why are you upset?
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>>559779127
>>559775875
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>>559779038
>This is exacerbated by "sheep mentality," where users blindly echo old opinions from these influencers without critical thought, perpetuating cycles of drama.
this is my major issue with jops. not jops themselves, but how ONE jop consumes a jopge and express his INDIVIDUAL SUBJECTIVE opinion, and then EVERYBODY keeps parroting it until it becomes a "fact" that you can't question

like motarou being giga incel, it was said once by some jop and then repeated endlessly by everybody without having actually read it
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>>559779127
It's "JEB" you moron
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>JOP
Even he makes fun of them
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Super Saiyan 4 (Daima)
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>>559778004
>Schopenhauer
My brain is expanding
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>>559779249
it means japanese-english proficient
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>>559779282
>like motarou being giga incel, it was said once by some jop and then repeated endlessly by everybody without having actually read it
That's not true? Didn't he literally write blogs about being an incel on his site?
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>>559779449
You're replying to a newfag.
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>>559779480
How do you know he's a newfag? Can you point to other posts he made itt
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>>559779520
Flood is an infamous newfag who believes that saya no uta is a hidden gem.
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why is jopbro chimping out
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Super JOP 4 (MML)
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>>559779682
>why is jopbro being himself
??
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>>559779682
Zech-dono is on periods
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>>559778004
Sometimes there are works of fiction where you feel that the author has honed his skills for his entire life just to bring that story to reality. I felt it with Tolstoy’s “War & Peace”, got a glimpse of it in Dostoevsky’s “Crime & Punishment” and got completely overwhelmed by it in エピタフ―相対の相対―.
Motarou is easily the most erudite writer in VIPRPG realm, if not contemporary fiction in general. Playing his works you’ll be introduced to a plethora of other literary fiction, philosophy, science, and his own original ideas.
The only other writer that gave me a similar vibe was Umberto Eco, and even he wasn’t as good at teaching difficult concepts to his readers.
I personally separate my life to pre-エピタフ―相対の相対― and post-エピタフ―相対の相対― periods, as playing it has completely changed how I view the world. It taught me to appreciate life much more (or rather in a different way) than I used to and also be more honest with myself. It may have a similar effect on you, or it may do nothing if it’s not your kind of thing, but one thing is clear — you’ve got to read it even if it’s the last thing you do.
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>>559779449
yeah because some jop checked his blog and said so (that blog doesn't exist anymore)...
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Are you going to talk about visual novels or keep sucking jop cocks
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>>559779978
Who is sucking cocks? All you jops think about is sucking cocks.
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Who the fuck is motarou
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>>559780356
McDonald's CEO...
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>>559780270
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>>559780270
You can count on your single hand the number of niggas who know and care about him.
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>>559780653
semen demon
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>Yahoo! Sasuga Nii-san-desu!
Buhi~
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>>559780270
From archives
>Motarou is literally a giga autist who spends every waking hour reading and thinking about philosophy. The NPCs in his games alternate rapidly between extremely grotesque sexual/scatalogical humor and jargon-heavy interpretations of philosophers from throughout history. You can talk to a random NPC and have no fucking clue what they're saying if you haven't read the philosopher in question, since it's so heavy with real philosophical terminology. Hell, you can read Japanese reviews for the Dogma series and see real Japanese people say they could barely follow what was going on since the philosophy was so intense. Whether or not one ultimately thinks Motaruo works are good or not, it's hard to deny that they're works of philosophy written by an autist philosopher.
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I now have like 20 hard-drives. All 500GB because it's better to have 10 small drives and have one fail than have one 4TB that fails. That's a little backup trick for you cool cats.
Anyway I've spent like 6 hours going through my porn stash. It's not easy, but I did save 200 GB
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>>559780801
i'm so glad 1 low iq mtler reviewed him so now we can parrot that archive snippet for all the eternity
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Why are people impressed by abstruse philosophical gibberish
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Why are people impressed by abstruse Japanese gibberish
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>>559780895
We'll parrot your review once you post it
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Only moege can save this general
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>>559781026
i will translate it so eopfellas can discuss it with me
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>>559780895
Quof is an MTLer?
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>>559781064
AI translation?
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>>559781148
no, a proper one. you can't half-ass philosophykino, ai is only for fantasy/moe/chuuni/nukisloppa
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>>559781190
false
ai is for countering schizos on /vn/
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>>559781190
I'd rather trust AI than you floodbro when it comes to translating philosophy terms
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>>559780889
>what is RAID-1
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Speaking of philosophy, has anyone read the most complex philosophical work ever written in the history of mankind? https://vndb.org/v32811
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>>559780889
Why are you saving all this for
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holy shit i found the holy grail
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S;G
'masa
Umineko
The three pillars of visual novel philosophy
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>>559781518
Where's that from
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>>559781591
ask on the cartelcord GEEEGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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>>559780889
what, don't hdd have better endurance the higher capacity it is? Why are you setting up like this unless I assume you start this whole data hoarding when you didn't have money
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>>559781480
Yeah the philosophy of scat
Most philosophers don't ponder on that subject
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damn this post really hurt floodsis...>>559777000
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>>559781495
The wars over water. Once water becomes the new currency, I will make billions in H2O selling my porn
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>>559781765
I thought he was on cords
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>>559781837
If he knew anyone from the jop community he wouldn't be humiliating himself so much in these threads
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>>559780801
I like how in Japan it's possible to find autistic creators like this posting their random kino online. It's not at all possible in the west.
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>>559781989
the creative spirit is wasted on furry porn or speedrun videos or weg porn
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>>559781437
Nta but this is my first time hearing that. I should try it on my 2tb passport
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>>559782147
>first time
Why are /vn/ anons so fucking tech illiterate
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>>559780801
Dogma series?
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>>559782231
You can run vinnies on basically anything now, anon, zero requirement for any knowledge other than "open pc download vn read vn"
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Okay, fine. I'll only do this once, but since you guys are always asking, here is a pic of me and my mom
https://litter.catbox.moe/sxym06.webp
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>>559782397
Zoomers can't download an ISO, install a VN from it and then patch it. They need them prepatched.
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Okay, fine. I'll only do this once, but here is a pic of me
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>>559778963
>>559779038
>>559779126
Anons like you are why I still post in /vn/.
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>>559783331
Nigga he's just copypasting chatgpt's answer
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>>559783307
Auto-pedo Agp-dono...
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>>559779357
Brilliant were the men of the past
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>>559783556
That's just garden variety misogyny, anon.
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>>559781837
i prefer to keep my cock attached to my crotch for now
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How romancy
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>>559783331
>literal copy-paste of chatgpi nonsense
You are beyond retarded.
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>>559783331
>Anons like you are why I still post in /vn/.
but you are literally responding to AI
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>>559783729
>nonsense
?????
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>>559783734
I don't get why you blame Indians when AI posters are all EUfags in this general
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>>559783824
AI doesn't exist anon it's just Indians sitting at computers.
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>>559783824
it's free excuse to make fun of fecaloids whenever the ai topic is brought up
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>>559781518
holy fucking kino.....................
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>hfk... amrite lads? haha
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>>559783638
Do not disparage truth just because you disagree.
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>>559784601
Don't bully our newfag.
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>>559784619
>>559784601
cope, the 2024+ stuff isn't even on nepchan
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>>559784982
There's a lot of crap that's only on cartelcords flodisis...
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>>559785153
nope, this is the complete motarou gameography
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>>559785216
>complete motarou gameography
HOLY NEWFAG KEKAROOOOOOOO
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>>559784982
Who cares, that's off-topic. Fuck off >>>/jp/
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I'm going to read my vn, it was fun teasing our cute newfag.
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>>559783003
I just need a readme txt file.
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>>559783331
Miki a shit
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>>559785264
kys shitposter, you will never have a complete and organized motarou's kinography
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>>559785717
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS GUY IS THE BEST
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>>559785770
proof of your claims or you gonna keep coping?
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https://sprite.net/15th-teaser
New sprite getting revealed this week.
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finished motarou's ドグマ series recently and it’s one of those works that’s hard to recommend even if you end up loving it. the games are packed with extreme guro imagery, constant talk of death and suicide, and a generally miserable atmosphere. a lot of people will bounce immediately. but if you can get past that, there’s a surprisingly thoughtful core. the series keeps returning to loneliness and suffering, framed through buddhist ideas about creation, destruction, and samsara.
ドグマの箱庭 starts rough, basically a cynical dragon quest-style game where each town exposes some ugly aspect of human nature. it can feel juvenile in how hard it pushes shock value, but the strange assets and tone hint at something more. 引き裂かれたバダール is where the series really finds its footing: a tower where every floor is its own themed world with grotesque bosses and detailed enemy lore. the cast starts to matter here, especially ishtam, a self-styled god of death who jokes constantly about dying while also reflecting on existence.
the smaller entries flesh out the themes. ポイズン・セレクション follows poison, a character defined by self-loathing who can’t believe anyone could like him. アリスの標本箱 expands the story with new gods and cults while pushing the idea that beneath the misanthropy people still want connection. アリシアのパンセ and ゾーエーの共鳴箱 are shorter pieces that lean further into the cosmology and the idea that creation and destruction are inseparable.
シューニャの空箱 ties everything together. ishtam walks through a corridor of time where each room represents a different era of human history, and the game becomes an essay on suffering. history repeats not because people forget but because the nature of life hasn’t changed. by the end the series feels less like a normal RPG and more like a bleak meditation on samsara
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That's why you'll always be a newfag flood, you're totally disconnected from all communities kek
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>>559786030
still waiting for that motarou's kinography from your le sekrit jopcord
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jopmong melty.
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>>559784982
Bro what site is this
Dm me
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KEKAROOOOOOO
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>>559786142
sent ;^)
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>hesitating between the architect girl and the elf? have sex with me
Sensei is so weak... btw Elmore is Aria's grandma; she's using magic to look younger.
https://files.catbox.moe/rly0vj.png
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>15 years of Sprite and Monmusu
bros...we're old...
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>>559786142
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG jopcord getting desperate
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Always fucking joptards who are spamming and ruining our general.
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>>559785974
More all-ages kino
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enjoy your “complete” collection troon GEEEEEEEEEEEG
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>>559786325
cry to jannies for not bannies jopGODs talking about rpg maker games in your shitty porn books general

also
>pic
HOLY SHITTOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Seriously why is the JOP community so gatekeepy as fuck
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Man I love Karen
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Did this retard really not learn from his last incident where he was exposed as an n5 who takes 60 hours to read something that takes 20?
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We hate JOPmongs here.
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>>559786445
insecurity and cope
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>>559786532
MHBST
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>>559786513
still waiting for your vocaroo lil bro

>>559786532
feels good being a JEP
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man floodtroon is malding so hard
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>jop
>he hasn't read ラグナグの柩/致死量 which is Motarou's greatest summative work to date.
NGMI!
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>>559786256
Time flies by
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>cartel finally understands the feeling of being gatekept
GEGARおおおおおおおおおお
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Why does the newfag get so angry when he is called a newfag?
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good morning, fellow oppai enjoyers
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>>559786903
>things that never happened
why are jops so insecure about JEPs reading their hidden gems?
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>>559787048
I'm not JOP, I'm just watching you fight some imaginary enemy here
>>559786749
>>559786852
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>>559786852
What do you mean gatekeeping a nigga who makes free shit?
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>>559787328
the meta-information is being gatekept
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>>559787171
He probably really thinks he's discussing this with some cartelfag
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>floodtroon melty
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>joppers don't know that epitaph has a sequel
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP GEEEEEEEEG
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Port is almost finished, active development. Wow!
https://eroge-developer.itch.io/discipline-the-record-of-a-crusade-remake


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKA9Zi5-_Y
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>>559786238
These Ooyari games seem absolute kino. Just wish I had time to read anything these days
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I had never seen this guy so salty.
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A very bad look for JOPigs...
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>>559786325
IDB
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Man, I hate it here.
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>>559788032
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important reminder that this post broke him >>559777000
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here you go jopbros
>>>/jp/50744940
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why do cordbros hate our floodbro?
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>he is talking to himself on /jp/
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absolute state of the jopsissy.
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>>559788356
i'm leaving it there so my fellow jopfellas can enjoy motarou's later works!

>>559788339
because i'm a JEP who doesn't hate eops and mtlers
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>>559788446
>who doesn't hate eops
fake news
you're just as elitist as usual jops
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>JOP
>>559779313
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>>559788553
uhm nyo, i want vinnies to be translated (even with mtl if it's good enough) so the vn community can stop infighting and we can discuss hidden gems all together!
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>>559779313
Epstein was a JOP
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>>559788653
is that your way of coping with not being accepted into the jop community?
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>>559788653
even if they're translated, jops be like "you didn't experience the original thing. you don't understand it"
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why those subhuman retards cannot fuck off to >>>/jp/ ?
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>he is making a recommended order list of games he has not played
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So… what even is this Dogma thing?
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>>559788776
because it's full of gatekeeping jizzatmaxxers nowadays

>>559788848
i mean it really depends. you experienced enough to discuss everything besides the actual japanese prose (which jops don't discuss anyway because texthookers prevent them from enjoying it properly), so in most cases it's 99% the same thing if we leave the cope aside for a moment
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Imouto thread next pls
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>>559788971
it's not my recommendations, i'm reporting what my chinese sources said
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>>559789026
See >>559786004
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don't download from shady sites
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>>559786004
holy kuso
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>cartel damage control
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
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It's impressive that the last posts 'on topic' were made more than 4 hours ago.
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>>559789363
But enough about Steins;Gate.
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>>559789513
I made a small blogpost of a route I finished 3hr ago. Of course, no (you)s but off-topic garbage gets (you)s as usual. /vn/ really doesn't read huh.
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>>559789352
yep, don't download ryuushit
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spammer melty.
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>>559787769
They're very comfy games. LWR is really long though; no way it's just a 30h game, especially if you try to 100% everything, and it's more about SoL stuff for the most of it, except heroines star quests (real heroine route) and the 4 extra routes.
If you're going to play it, make sure to apply this guy's (#1) strategy to farm spirits with the dice rolls; this would save you a lot of time
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/349300/discussions/0/618458030681774399/

Quartett is more story-driven and short, so you might start with this one. Great soundtrack too.
But there's a bug that cuts voice lines if they're too long, so you have to tweak some ini files like explained here
>https://vndb.org/t10503.1
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>>559786004
>Buddhist nonsense
Okay it might as well not exist for me
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>>559789513
just because you can't use grok doesn't mean that something is offtopic....
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>>559789513
You still care about topicality? /vn/ evolved beyond that.
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HOLY FUCKING KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY BRAIN IS EXPANDINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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>>559789968
your average /vn/bro
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>>559789968
>second text box
>already mogs doki doki shit and all the metakuso ever made
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>>559789696
fuck on, king
>>559789968
fuck off, retard
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>>559790097
How does it mog them when it's same gimmick
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>>559790161
it's a 2005 game
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oppai thread next, please
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>>559790307
oppaicord is currently involved in some internet drama so they won't be making threads
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Oppai are gay.
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MOVE
>>559790528
>>559790528
>>559790528
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VNs where you piss on oppai?
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>>559790193
There's no fucking way you're that newfag...
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>>559790598
Dude you're extremely annoying. Just come to the point, make an actual argument, teach newfags instead of this shit.
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>>559762279
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>>559790598
>no arguments
copesession accepted
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>>559790689
Ok https://vndb.org/v599
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>>559790735
It would be quite amusing if he really just found this out now.
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>>559790735
and?
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>>559790972
Cute newfag
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>>559791067
cute seething babyjop
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>>559791176
This isn't about jop or eop, you're generally a total cute newfag at everything
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>>559791384
>he doesn't know about the most obscure shit ever talking about epitaph sequel and motarou stuff, not the forest, in case you wanna cope about that so he's a newfag!
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>>559790735
What is this boomer shit
Never seen anyone discuss it here
That being said I'm a tourist tho
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>>559790735
newbro....
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>>559791481
I'm not just referring to that, I'm referring to your entire history of ignorance about everything. It's not a bad thing, since we were all newfags at one time, I just think it's cute that you're always so defensive
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>>559791756
i knew about forest tho. and i'm not the one who keeps calling other newfags for not knowing the most obscure shit ever on an eop board of all places
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>>559791869
I just called you a cute newfag now, I am not responsible for other posts
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Anyone have that pic of Marie from Starless reaching outside the monitor?
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uminegro lost
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steins shit lost
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motarou won
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negromasa is for cucks
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