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Trench Edition
>Previous
>>559886319

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
Jan 22 Redacted Regiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvwvsJRSKk
Feb 03 Siege Breakers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9E9-iGwK_4
Feb 04 A Bastion of Freedom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ZhrAP7k6Y
Feb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14
Mar 17 Entrenched Division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zP5GWoQi0

>LATEST PATCHES
Feb 03 1.006.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/506226349467240138
Feb 10 1.006.003 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541129880857741482
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The Raped
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>>559923825
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swedes making ww1 content is cultural appropriation
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the filtered
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I think I shall try some bot missions to see if I like doing them
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will you bring the shovel?
or will you bring the V-toe?
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A reminder speartroons got anally raped by their own spears last thread after getting btfo'd when they got called out for playing on a modded server.
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i think arrowhead should get off their asses and actually do something with the game instead of keeping their molasses railroad going, all to drip feed content they've been sitting on since launch
tweak some numbers too, most of the guns that are underperforming only need small nudges to become good picks but for some reason they refuse to even do this
for some reason this desire makes discord trannies piss and shit their pants
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>>559923959
>retard kill better
>bring point secondary literally pistol without double guess
>reason hard
>stop another trench
>retarded sony
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My stat guesstimates for the shit in the bond.

>CPG-48 Sapper
Explosive Resistance (50%) + Additional Grenades (+2)

>CPH-26 Commandant
Explosive Resistance (25%) + Gas Resistance (50%) + Reduced Sidearm Recoil (30%)

>SMG/FLAM-34 Stoker
80-90 Damage + Light Pen
Alt-Fire: Base Fire Damage + Heavy Pen

>P-69 Veto
150 Damage + Light Pen

>A/GM-17 Giga-Grenade
2000 Damage + Heavy Pen
Will either be Demo 30 to prevent stepping on the toes of Dynamite, OR you only get 1 stock base with Demo 40, and are forced to take grenade boosting armors to get more than one use.

>B/FLAM-80 Cremator
Napalm Fire Damage + Slightly longer range
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new capes look like shit
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Releasing a melee weapon that takes up the support slot, making the cooldown eight minutes, having it do literally nothing, being an inferior reskin of a secondary weapon, and putting it at the end of a paid warbond is enough to justify endless super credit cheating.
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Is there a way to get the supergoy edition upgrade?
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Can someone red pill me on the Torcher?
Doing the Flame warbond and noticed its "Special"
I dont want to watch a 10 minute video of a guy pretending to be a helldiver
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>>559923979
Don't bother giving the bugchaser attention.
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>>559924176
I believe it's not a stratagem.
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>>559924183
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>>559924303
I was talking about the flag.
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>>559924247
it's better than the flamethrower because you fire it from a the shoulder instead of the hip and its responsive enough to react to enemies on the edges of the pack
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>>559924247
https://youtu.be/tdZvSLHf4Fc
you will watch the video
you will understand the depths of swedish incompetence
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>>559924247
>Can someone red pill me on the Torcher?
Flamer but primary.
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Someone post the cheat link.
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>>559923825
This thing is going to be mediocre for an already mediocre weapon.
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>>559924426
>tahcher
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>>559924456
dont be lazy.
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>>559924456
the brown
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>>559924386
It says its been delisted.
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>>559924503
If it's anything but

>Extended range
>Napalm damage
>Tank explodes when damaged

Then it's a failure of as weapon in every regard.
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>>559924542
purisu undasutandaru
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>>559924456
>And now the cheattranny is going to samefag over and over again to pretend hes popular
Sad!
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>>559924421
Flag is based.
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>>559924568
>>559924609
Fuck you i'm not farming for SC nor am i going to pay for SC.
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why does medal multiplier work but exp multiplier doesnt
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IT HAS BEEN 1 AND A HALF YEARS OF
>enemies being unable to spawn at extract if it's near a map border
>alpha commanders going catatonic unless the host is nearby
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>>559923959
NO JOEL NO
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Why do you still bake? Let it die, end your suffering. Things will never get better, swiggers will never even attempt to improve the sate of this game and will only release shitty out of place slopbonds to quickly earn money and memoryhole any major drama. You come here every day in hopes to ease the pain only to be reminded about how much swiggers hate you and do everything they can to spite you.
It's only a matter of time until things get out of hand and Sony pulls the plug on this shitfest despite funneling tons of cash into this. This game is a lightning in a bottle they never wanted to catch and they hate themselves for it.
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>>559924640
it lets me add it to the cart as normal
must be something with your region?
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>>559924726
you cant outsource netcode
if their netcode autist got moved to the next project it wont change in a decade
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What became of the final divers left behind on cyberstan?
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>>559924061
i will bring a shovel and bury the corpses of my fallen comrades out of respect and dignity for the dead
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What happened to this thing anyways?
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crazy how easy it is to pick out reddit posts
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>>559924803
Maybe. I might have to contact arrowhead customer support to see what I need to do.
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What kind of build would you take for solo on omicron?
I've been using variations of this build while working towards handling higher difficulties (currently playing on extreme)

Roadblock armor
Lib Carbine
GL pistol
Gas grenades
Flamethrower
Supply backpack
FRV
Patriot exosuit

Sometimes I'll take torcher and stalwart instead.
I tried using a shield backpack but there's so many god damn bugs in the tunnels it feels really bad to only have 4 gas grenades at hand.
I think I like having the stalwart since sometimes you get missions with 3 stalker nests and the dakka comes in handy. It's also good against impliers.
Unfortunately the new heavy flamethrower looks like it would be fucking awful for missions like these.
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>>559924878
raped and turned into cyborgs
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>>559924247
Last changes ("buffs" (actually nerfs)) to fire made it identical in damage to the support flamethrower
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>>559924938
they never got the stinger working so it got scrapped
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>>559924938
Was that the thing used for the jets on cyberstan? Probably will show up again when more mega factories show up.
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>>559924247
Stop asking this every thread, you fucking moron. I already did a dissertation for you two threads ago, go look for it there.
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>>559924938
Anon, it's fake. It's literally a slap dash mesh edit by somebody fucking around. Look at the nose of the jet, it's just the nose of the gunship elongated.
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how is a ww1 warbond out of place? I'd get the the complaint if we started getting warbonds themed around magical girls or some bullshit
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Siege breakers, Redacted regiment or Force of Law as next warbond?
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>>559924961
I used the supply pack and grenade launcher. The time-to-kill with that against entire patrols is about as fast as you can get. The other strats were gatling sentry to distract breaches when moving between caves and orbital rail to zonk dragon roaches. Other equipment was thermites, ultimatum, and blitzer. Specialized cave diver setup.
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>>559925229
hell sissies are magical girls
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>used the blitzer on D10
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>>559925238
>siege
Has hammer and trident.
>redacted
Censor and C4
>law
Literally just the k9
Go Siege Breakers.
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>>559925238
Siege breakers for me. The hammer and leveller are fun weapons. Backpack GL not so much. Redacted is required if you want to be a stealth nigga. Force of law is pretty mid.
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>>559925238
Siege Breakers has fun shit
Redacted Regiment has some fun shit
Force of Law has no fun shit
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>>559925129
Im not that anon
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I hope I have enough...
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>>559923825
>don't have freedom's flame because lol
>don't have the premium parts of the killzone warbond because lmao
>don't have force of law because I don't want to buy it just for K9
boy I sure hope the giga grenade isn't a wet fart, "buying" this thing just for the gas mortar is gonna suck dong
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>>559925238
Siege all the way
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>>559924135
>>CPG-48 Sapper
>Explosive Resistance (50%) + Additional Grenades (+2)
Please let there be a heavy version of this one in the sheckle store, please please please fucking swede shits.
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>>559925229
Many don't read descriptions and don't understand that many of the warbonds are literally in universe products that reference pop culture for divers to buy. Off the top of my head the ones that fit this are
>viper commandos was based on a famous unit from history
>chemical agents was based on a stage musical and the SC armor based on a kids show
>truth enforcers based on an in universe mystery novel series
>ODST is stated to be an in universe cartoon
Might be others but those are the ones I remember.
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>Trident and Coyote for bugs
>Eruptor for bits
>Squids...
I still can't find a single primary or secondary to carry on with the squids
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>>559924061
>p-69
Nice
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>>559925435
>>559925461
>>559925492
>>559925686
gotcha thanks anons
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>>559925648
Serves me right for being console shitter.
I just want to hop once and save hours of farming.
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>>559925804
almost any primary works, for secondary try either the warrant or the saber
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>>559925804
literally anything, if it's not good on voteless it's good on overseers
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>>559925238
>siege breakers
trident, hammer, leveller, shield grenade
>redacted regiment
censor, c4, stealth armor
>force of law
???
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>>559925175
A slap dash mesh edit is something swiggers would do.
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>>559925782
>and the SC armor based on a kids show
What sort of fun experiments do you think Jen Shriver the Science Diver gets up to for the children of Super Earth?
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>>559925494
Then go back to this post >>559851583 and find all the answers to your question.
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>>559926123
>force of law
all of the Judge Dredd kino is in the super store too
that warbond really doesn't have shit goin for it lmao
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Have you ever thought, "I wish arrowhead would play their own game,"? If you have, you've committed a thought crime and have been logged into an offender database. Any future feedback regarding helldivers will be flagged with this transgression. Additionally, you will be placed on a watchlist incase you commit further crimes against Sweden.
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>>559926224
interspecies mating
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>>559923825
I'm gonna be real. This feels like Masters of Ceremony all over again. It's 90% pure fashion and memes. The only standout item here is the Gas Mortar.
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>>559926336
Bro's talking about thought crimes in a thread filled with thought jihadists.
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>>559926509
>comparing literally any warbond to the one that contains the One True Flag
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>>559926509
I'd argue at least Masters had two items(fire cracker and amendment).
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>>559926509
The SMG is arguably the most versatile weapon in the game, presuming Arrowhead haven't gone full retard with the ergonomics again. If it's anything lower than 50, they've fucked it. But it's got huge appeal to me because it's the first light pen weapon that doesn't get stalled out by endless hive guards.

>Just shoot the armpit
I'm not doing that when 20+ of them show up, which is frequent.
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>>559926509
Drip can save a warbond, just look at Truth Enforcers.
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>>559926509
The only meme weapon is the shovel, but unlike the OTF it at least has the decency not to take up a strategem slot
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>>559926823
>presuming Arrowhead haven't gone full retared
perhabs the canister is single use
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>>559923825
>>559891390
>Inf strategems
>inf health
>inf stam
>God mode
>Diff 10
>250 medals per victory
>12 min kill missions
>Armour with extra throwing distance
>Run around with 10 orbital laser at all times finish mission in 3-4 mins
Some chinese guy dropped 50,000 SC on me 2 years ago and I have 11 warbonds to unlock plus the new one.
I will NOT grind medals for hundreds of hours
I WILL unlock everything in under 2 hours
I WILL use what I want to use rather than suffer tedium farming medals for new toys
I will NOT be timegated
Arrowhead CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF.
I WILL play MY GAME the way I WANT TO.

Don't respect my time I wont respect your shitty gacha currency treadmill, even if I get banned I have 500 hours played legitimately and the only cost on my end was the initial purchase
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>>559926842
you get it, if a warbond has a cool helmet and cape i'm game
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>>559927016
>Run around with 10 orbital laser at all times finish mission in 3-4 mins
are you retarded
>insta complete objective
>extract timer set 0
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>>559926842
Same with ODST
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>>559926336
>commit further crimes against Sweden.
They declared war on me first.
>I was there...all those years ago when Fatshark promised gold and delivered rusty iron covered in shit.
DEATH TO SWIGGERS!
TOTAL SWIGGER DEATH!
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Surely the falmer has more range? Surely it isnt *just* the flamethrower with more ammo?
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>>559926823
>AAAAAAA I HAVE TO AIM AGAINST HIVEGUARDS ARROWHEAD PLEASE SAVE ME!!!!

Lower the difficulty
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>>559926842
Unflinching armor has been good ever since they buffed it. The loyalist is also useful if your primary struggles with "oops, all spewers" seeds.
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>>559927420
someone needs to go in-game with the free flamethrower and get a comparison screenshot
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>>559927420
>with more ammo
it propably has less ammo to offset not having to reload
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>>559927420
Wish granted! The backpack flamer will have more reach that the non backpack flamer. The flames will still be stopped by a single enemy and will not wash over it.
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>>559927420
this is at least a third longer
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>>559924426
>random japanese guy with an anime girl avatar makes better videos than every single western youtuber
Man...
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>>559927420
anon, im going to do some math for you that is going to make you real sad.
>the maxi gun is the MMG, but uncontrollable, and needs a backpack slot
>the BPGL is the GL, but uncontrollable, and the grenades are weaker in every way for no reason, and needs a backpack slot
>the BP-Flamer is the flamer, but ________, and _________
fill in the blank
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>>559927441
>Yes let me just delicately shoot 20+ hive guards in the armpit while I'm also being mogged by endless hunters
Why do you faggots get off on lying about the most blatantly false shit? Nobody does the above. Being stalled out is bad.
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Medpen or lightpen, call it.
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>>559927630
thing but japanese but unironically
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>>559927801
why are you shooting the hive guard and not the hunters?
and who isn't throwing a red or applying some kind of area effect weapon to a pile of 20+ enemies, hive guard or not?
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>>559927420
>falmer
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>>559925284
I'll have to give the blitzer a try then, never really used it before
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>>559927928
>why are you shooting the hive guard and not the hunters?
I am shooting the hunters, you are literally proving the point that you/I, in this hypothetical, are being stalled out. You go to shoot the hive guard, can't just mag dump the thing, and instead keep getting distracted by hunters.

>and who isn't throwing a red or applying some kind of area effect weapon to a pile of 20+ enemies, hive guard or not?
You are once again proving the point in regards to the weakness of light pen weapons and why people tend to avoid them. Do you know what people with the Scorcher or Eruptor or Crossbow do? They just shoot the hive guards and don't need to use a strat or a support weapon. The new SMG having a flame option means it can deal with hive guards, as well as even Hulks and Chargers from the front, which bypasses one of the larger weaknesses of light pen weapons.
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>>559924657
retard I meant you're being lazy by not looking for the link in a previous thread
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>>559926842
I've warmed up to having the loyalist in my loadout more than I thought I would, but Talon/Senator and Grenade Pistol still exist
>>559927318
the stealth weapons are alright, if you're into that
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>>559927420
It's a liquid flamethrower so it should be kino
but we gotta see how they fucked it because they have no idea how to balance backpack weapons
retarded spread and glued to the floor
fucked damage

at this rate the new flamethrower will probably just explode on a whim making you pay a stim tax and obviously be out of a support weapon for like 7 minutes :)
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>>559925404
all arc build disagrees with you.
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>>559927886
>gyroslop rounds
same damage and AP as warrant
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I figured out how to fix this entire fucking game. Ready?
>Give the Sickle the same pulsed laser beam visual as the Tident
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>>559928423
The problem with light pen weapons is that they don't really have any strengths to offset them being light pen
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>flamethrower but you can't use gas dog with it
Dead on arrival
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>>559929337
and give us large(r) heatsink
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Drag is detrimental to game balance and would be better off removed. There, I said what was on everyone's mind.
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>>559929340
Light pen weapons should be minimum double damage of their med pen equivalents.
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>>559929337
The sickle is a ballistic gun though
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>>559928780
>gyrojet rounds
Medium pen. Pocket jar dominator. Unusable levels of ergonomics and recoil.
>t. Pondered the orb.
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>>559923825
Hi, so when do new warbonds release after a trailer? 1 week from posting?
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>>559929340
the strength of light pen weapons is not flinching bots when a stray bullet doesnt hit the head.
Since swiggers dont play their own game they never discovered this and offset lights percived weakness by giving them higher dps and bullet count than their "upgunned" variant
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>>559924762
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>>559929793
They usually take an armor set and a weapon out of the warbond to put into the superfag store to milk more money from paypigs.
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>>559929878
the 17th, watch the trailer, it says when
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>>559929719
YEAH???
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>>559929878
Yea a week. 17th is the release date. Get your ass to omicron or phact bay and farm credits on d1.
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>>559929956
bugjeets? Your response?
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>>559930182
Yeah
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I never thought commies would be korean
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GOD GIVE ME LITERALLY ANYTHING OTHER THAN ILLUMINATE TO DO
DUMB BORING NIGGER FACTION
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>>559930473
Return to Oshaune approved, helldiver.
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>>559930368
Yes you fucking idiot, it currently fires bullets and SHOULD shoot lasers, that's the entire point of the original post.
>the sickle is described as a laser weapon so it should shoot lasers
>you: but it shoots bullets not lasers
I will fucking cum in your mouth
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>>559930132
Ok thank you have a good day
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>>559923825
where's the fucking shotgun? don't tell me they threw it into the trash
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>>559930182
sorry laser means star wars blaster please file a support ticket
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Light moving at 300 km/s is unrealistic, 1300 m/s is a much more sensible speed
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>>559930653
The original post specified "visually", you fucking battery muncher.
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>>559930303
I already have enough creds thanks to some frens from here.
I will ask though if these warbond updates come with patch fixes/adjustments/etc
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>>559930473
find a shitty gay ass bug planet to dive on or something
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>>559930759
super store exclusive, pay up piggy
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>>559930759
Superstore.
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>>559923825
HEAVY FLAMIES!
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>>559930856
hitscan don't real! that's not how physics!
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>>559930856
lasers are also famous for their limited range and can not deal damage to a cross map spore spewer yet projectile weapons can
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>I will ask though if these warbond updates come with patch fixes/adjustments/etc
first time?
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>>559931359
Y-yes actually. Should I be worried?
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>>559931648
hope u like gambling
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>>559931648
swiggers literally added bugs in these past couple updates and they do *no* version control between developers everyone uses their own git pulls or something equally stupid
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>>559931359
>>559930901
They sometimes do, but usually not.
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>>559931816
>>559931828
That seems kinda silly, I'm used to these live service games doing frequent patches especially with a content drop that serves as a good opportunity to fix stuff
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>>559932065
>I'm used to video games with online having upkeep
swiggers would consider you a spoiled serf
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>>559932065
they're probably in the middle of their second (of eight) yearly month long vacations so I wouldn't expect much
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>>559931648
Here's how it works with Swedes
>Does the bug currently help players in some way? (Stacking multiple of the same stratagem, this was a feature in the first game)
Immediately fixed within 48 hours.
>Does the bug actively hinder or lower the general quality of life for players?
Listed as a known issue and will remain untouched for 3 months unless AH is faced with overhelming demand for it to be fixed, in which case they very begrudging give a half assed fix, or at worse, a band-aid fix with an armor passive.
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>>559931648
a total lack of version control means they can somehow end up reintroducing bugs they've previously fixed, and undo-ing things that cause issues isn't possible. They totally fucked fire weapons right before introducing the fire-themed warbond (Freedom's Flame), reworking how flamethrowers operate without testing what the impact even was on the weapon's performance. when people asked them to revert the changes they said it was impossible, I guess the original flamethrower code's just fucking erased
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>>559927601
these particles dont do damage
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>>559931648
There have been bugs in this game since launch. Any time they put in the minimum amount of effort for quality control, they introduce new bugs, and still do not fix the old ones.
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>>559932301
>people hate the flamethrower but love the visuals
>flame thrower warbond dropps
>flamethrower still shit and visuals changed to cartooney sprites
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>>559932301
>>559932450
>>559932174
>>559932172
This game is fun but I'm thinking maybe this isn't a good long term investment
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>>559932707
cheat in super credits and stop caring about swigger lies.
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>>559932707
Should have chosen something better, like Highguard.
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>>559932707
enjoy the game as much as u can, the first 100+ hours for me was amazing, only later after looking in to it and looking at /hdg/ i see the issues etc
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>>559932236
Admitting to making mistakes or even acknowledging there even is a problem is against izzat.

Not fixing bugs and slapping shit together that barely works is jugaad.
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>>559932236
>Immediately fixed within 48 hours.
Stopped reading there. It took months for the supply pack exploit to get fixed. Also remember when the commando destroying factories was made into a feature when it was initially a bug? Arrowhead is very kind to shitters.
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>>559932707
Ignore the faggot whiners and make your own opinions. If you spend enough time in this community then you'll quickly realize that the majority of players are just tantrum throwing toddlers.
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>>559932707
The game is fun, but it just gets more and more baffling the digger you deep. And never forget, the developers hate you. So, uh, hope you can enjoy it for at least awhile more.
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>>559933609
>the developers hate you
The majority of this community deserves all the scorn in the universe.
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>>559932707
It never was.
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>>559932707
It isn't. the community is dogshit, consisting of dev worship, circlejerking, toxic positivy and insane fanboys that will destroy a mans life for daring the devs to play their own game
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>>559933749
Fair enough.
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>>559923825
>be backpack flamethrower
>same range as the normal flamethrower
>no stagger
>probably the same fire damage as the normal flamethrower
>AH will probably increase the fire resist of all factionsthey did that already not too long so they will prbably do it again
what is even the point of this warbond since the shotgun will probably be a superstore item
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>shovel stratagem
>not secondary
pass
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>>559934000
noooooo don't say that...
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>>559934015
lrn2read, retard.
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>>559934000
>>same range as the normal flamethrower
It might be over but it DOES have more range
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>>559934015
It's as secondary as your comprehension
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>>559934015
Anon....
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is there a complete list of bugs? known issues page is trash
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>>559934000
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>>559934210
https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/Terminids
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>AR/Flamer hybrid
>backpack-fed flamethrower
So this is going to be the 3 warbonds? Just a hybrid AR and a Backpack-fed support weapon we already have?
Well, let's see if we get a normal support shotgun before we get a belt-fed version.
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>>559934270
Fuck, beat me to it
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yippie
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>>559934270
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>>559934270
>fandom
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>>559934383
He cute
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>>559934000
gas mortar.
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Apparently the new flamer does have slowdown because you can see the berserker slowing down when it gets hit
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>>559934383
Get the Spear
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>>559934000
gas mortar.
The grenade if it kills heavies.
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Anyone got the thing for SC spawner? I need to stock up on super shekels for the next warbond
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>>559924247
Mogged by the Scythe.
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>>559934383
don't get the fucking spear just stick with autocannon or get the WASP
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>>559934383
newqte kyaaaa!
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>>559934662
Spear?
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Are there other BugDiver mods, or are they all on nexus?
Democratic bugs are our friends
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>>559934857
>t. RRcuck mogged by Spearchads scanning and shooting everything in the horizon
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The ODST warbond is old at this point but I love going solo at night and doing pseudo-stealth on mega-cities.
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>>559934773
Only faggots, cheat.
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I hope they make it so the gas mortar spreads out it's shots kinda like the gas dog does. I feel like it and the EMP one would be decent if the AI of the damn things tried its best to apply the de-buff to as many targets as possible at any given time, but it probably won't.
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>>559934969
I didn't mention the RR you schizophrenic fruit basket
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>>559935012
He doesn't want your faggots, he wants the SC spawner.
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>>559935147
Calm down xister your clitty is leaking
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>>559934773
Just look up HD2 Sneaky Stuff
>>559935012
Paypiggies are worse
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>>559934773
see >>559891390
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>>559933896
is this a new low for swedish studios or is fat shart even worse?
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>>559935379
What a fucking disgusting, reprehensible thing to post.Why the fuck is that your mindset?
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>>559935552
just swedes in general
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>>559926823
>presuming Arrowhead haven't gone full retard with the ergonomics again.
It's Arrowhead. I would NOT be surprised if they think taping a can of hairspray to the bottom of an SMG would immediately give it worse handling than the HMG.
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>>559935552
This is a common low for reddit.
From what little I know, fat shart is way worse when it comes to actually developing their game.
At least helldivers haven't had to wait months for a still image on twitter.
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>>559935508
Thanks champ
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>>559935552
Fatshark never pretended to give a shit about the community or its players.
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I have belt-fed slop fatigue
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>>559935552
Fatshart doesn't care about its community and just wants them to stop bitching about the game sucking. Also >>559935908 is right it's basically just status quo for predditors, at least the dude didn't kill himself (YET)
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>>559934932
ant mod
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>>559935552
Hilarious when people will call 4chan a cesspool and the skidmark of the internet because bad words are used here
While reddit will literally unearth a dudes identity and get him fired from his career and barred from his volunteer position of over a decade, because he wanted to hold the devs accountable for their awful balancing
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>>559936000
Just wait for the belt-fed explosive power fists, that'll fix it.
Weapon range long enough to hit anything other than chaff enemies not included.
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>>559934383
harar....
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in which cases you can skip hellbomb/portable hb statagem to destroy an objective/structure and use other things?
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>>559936228
I think the last time 4chan has doxxed someone was when a retard was killing and torturing cats
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>>559936228
i cant think of something more innocent than challanging the studio heads to play their own game
it is so fucking hillarious
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>The steam or whatever doesnt even come out of the barrels
Remember when all the sloptubers kept sucking arrowheads dick about how there was so much detail in their game?
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>>559936228
4chan doxxed the Burger King lettuce foot guy and ISIS in Syria.
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>>559936468
the only thing that needs a hellbomb is the gunship fab. detector/jammer is vulnearable to orbital shells, everything below can be blown up by dynamite, anti tank or weaker stratagem
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>>559925813
What about P-67.
Lol.
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>>559936691
>Guy contaminating food
>Literal terrorists
vs
>Reddit ruining some guys life because he offered the devs 1000 dollars to play their own game in a live stream
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>>559936468
>>559936795
forgot, the gunship fab also gets detroyed by a mini nuke
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>>559936468
spore spewers, shrieker nests, ammo depots, broadcasting towers, detector towers, bunkers, aa, mortars, rogue stations
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>>559936691
>doxxing a faggot ruining peoples food and literal terrorists is the same as doxxing a guy who works for free to help horses, ah yes, very comparable
>>559936623
im noooooticiiiing
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In the trailer we see 5 bots going at the guy. At the end, 2 bots are dead on the ground with the last 3 closing in.
So based on this the damage is probably the same as the default flamer and doesnt pass through enemies.
Dead on arrival.
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>call in tank
>the pelican hovers forever near a skyscraper and never lands the tank
thanks swiggerhead
having gunship support was cool though
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>>559936623
Small indie studio chud! Spawning two streams without doubling the damage is impossible! Engine limitations!
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>>559936623
it fixes itself when shooting
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>>559937209
So they have the tech to do it, they just didnt feel like it.
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I was in some mission and a guy called in extraction ASAP after we did main objectives, but instead of landing, the pelican just followed us around and killed everything on sight as we did secondary objectives.
Pretty sure it was not a modded lobby.
How did he do it?
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>>559936691
>4chan doxxes terrorists, sadistic kitten killer and some shithead spreading his foot fungus to random patrons
>reddit doxxes dude who dared the devs to play their game
not exactly making a good case for reddit
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>>559937209
>not aligned with the barrel
>equidistant from the center
I'm guessing it's still just one stream
Why didn't they just make it single-barreled, wouldn't that halve the pressure irl?
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Once steam maintenance ends i'll drop a lobby
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>>559936691
If I knew that my Burger King burger had someone's foot funguuuus, I'd fucking kill the dude that did it so yeah that was completely deserved
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>>559937572
cool points
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>>559937442
>the pelican just followed us around
You sure it didn't just hover above the extraction site? If you call it in, wait for it to arrive but leave before it lands it'll hover indefinitely and shoot things until it runs out of ammo
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>>559935552
Fatshark isn't even close to being as bad as Arrowhead. I've been playing vt2 and darktide for years now and they're the ones that awakened me to the true nature of sw*des but at least their fucking games are fun and they eventually add interesting content and balance stuff even if it takes them years to do so. Don't expect Arrowhead to fix this game
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>Finally get around to playing killzone 3
>the WASP can easily kill tanks, reloads in like 3 seconds, short bursts of the missles have enough damage and splash to wipe out multiple spread out enemies at once, artillery mode actually works.
>HD2 WASP is still meme tier over a year after release
AHHHHHHHHHH
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>>559932707
Just cheat the super credits and play for as long as you find the game fun.
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>>559936993
>>559937486
>>559937653
I literally do not use reddit and never have. I was just stating that we do doxx people too, and we have doxxed people ranging from some fuckwit breaking the health code up to and including geolocating strike zones for the Russian Air Force.
Also bike lock fag for attempted murder
Actual oldfags will remember the elder US vet grandpa and spamming him with Bday cards irl.

Plebbit is full of activists and they have nothing by comparison to show for it. I was just stating for effect. There are worse people over all on 4chan but Reddit is the actual cesspool of the internet.
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>>559937731
Now that I think about it maybe it did not follow us exactly where we are, but it definetally was somewhat outside the actual landing pad.
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>>559938071
dox has one x and always had one x, same with doxing
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>>559937586
themed lobby?
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Maybe AH should take a break from releasing more half baked warbonds and maybe spend some time actually addressing the bugs and balancing issues this game suffers from
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>>559935573
Sorry I haven't taken my meds today
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>>559938334
"AH" isn't here anymore. It's all outsourced slopbonds and contractors doing patchwork lazily. Enjoy!
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>>559934932
wtf is that thing
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>>559938334
Last time they said they'd do this they got nothing done and people bitched about not getting their monthly warbond slop.
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>>559938334
>Claude, fix all the bugs in the game
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>Sweet as fuck looking WW1 bond
>A fucking backpack flamethrower
If only fire wasn't SO SHIT. Even the fucking trailer couldn't hide how awful it is

What is wrong with swedish devs? It's like every decision they make the thinking goes
>Ouh ja this vill be fun
>Ouh but not TOO much fun, can't hej that!
Nuke the scandies
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>>559938334
AH is so out-to-lunch on game development now that >>559938709 would unironically made the game better at this point
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>>559938334
Maybe newshits shouldn't post about things they know nothing about.
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>>559938823
It would be one thing two if flame weapons where like this all along, but NO, the day 1 version had a perfectly fine flame thrower. I'm still baffled to this day why the killed it.
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>>559938823
>Anon finds out why Swedes were the most insufferable protestants in the history of Christian schisms who cannot comprehend life without some kind of strict self imposed suffering and hardship.
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>>559938334
I've seen this episode
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>>559938071
>we
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>>559939358
>wuz
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When tank skins?
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>>559938823
guarantee anything hitting the backpack will cause it too explode into flames
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Someone post the image of the shotgun pls.
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i've been noticing a lot more people wearing bonesnapper as of late. This is has nothing to do with that jiggle physics mod that recently dropped on nexus, surely?
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>>559939445
never
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>>559939747
nwell...
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Predict the stats
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will they ever release skins that actually change the model or are we just stuck with repaints forever?
because I'm still disappointed that the police skin doesn't add red and blue flashing lights
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>>559940012
300 giga billion damage
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>>559940012
halo shotgun but with medium pen
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>>559940012
~400 damage, medium pen, 5 shot mag, 40 spare rounds.
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>>559940012
I pray for med pen. You could make it dragons breath instead but then you are stepping on the cookouts toes
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>>559940012
Please just give it medium pen you swigger faggots.
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Tenchdivers, how we feeling?
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>>559940012
is that gonna be the superstore gun?
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>>559940012
AP2
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>>559940012
200 damage light pen you can quote me
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We've got a lobby
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242338317234/76561198120804312
Managed Democracy decides.
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>game promises fighting with overpowered weapons
>swedes nerf things that they say are overpowered
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Leveller with infinite ammo + no reload is so much fun
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>>559940704
2/4
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>>559940443
grim no way it's good AH is allergic to giving their players fun gadgets
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>>559938334
They have been on break this entire time, the warbond is already in the files
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>>559940704
3/4
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>>559940338
>>559940901
I'm mixed.
Gas mortar will be good, love brapdiving
Shotgun looks like it could be cool
Armors look nice and the passive is pretty decent. Hoping the shop heavy is good too
It's nice they made the shovel a secondary instead of a meme strat

But its AH. I have no faith in them allowing the player to feel good. Fun in HD2 is coincidental
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>>559930759
600 SC in the store. Enjoy the privilege.
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>defoliator
>medic armor
>experimental stims
>take on fleshmobs and overseers
This is the best fun I ever had on squids10. I should have done this on Cyberstand. Should I get the heavy medic armor just for this for even more protection?
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>>559940704
FVLL
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commando lobby doko?
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SONY HAS PATCHED SC GRINDING
NO MORE SC GRIND ON PS5
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>>559940901
>>559941305
The game is fun despite the devs, not because of them.
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>>559938823
>waah if only fire was better than bullets and killed everything instantly

what does "DOT" mean to you?
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>>559941816
elaborate
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>>559936228
qrd?
I ignore reddit to the best of my ability
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>>559940715
>game promises fighting with overpowered weapons
where on the store page does it say that m8? it's in your head.
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How has no one leaked if the SMG is one or two handed yet
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>>559940443
Would be a lot more fun if there were actual maps with trenches outside of a few bot encampments.
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>>559942169
Does it fucking matter?
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>>559942023
some redditors got mad about the guy running the charity challenge where he said he'd give 1000 dollars to charity if the devs actually played the game so they could see what the issues were
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Guys, i dont think these guys are talking about the predator strain...
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>>559941816
How does this affect me, an SC spawning PCgod
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>>559942169
>>559942276
literally last thread, lurk more
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>>559942023
r*ddit doxed a guy who asked the devs to play the game and sent bomb threats to the horse sanctuary he worked at, and he eventually got fired.
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>>559942023
some guy said he'd donate $1k to a charity of AH's choosing if the devs filmed themselves completing a d10 operation on oshaune to prove they actually play their own game, reddit troons freaked out at the thought of the poor devs having to play their own game and got him fired from his job and banned from a horse sanctuary he volunteered at. Just reddit things
>>
firesissies century of humilliation
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>>559936228
4chan doxes people who deserve it, leddit doxes normal people.
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>>559942474
>>559942276
>No leaks
Why even post? Just say you're incompetent
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why didn't arrowhead include a stratagem to have eagle 1 drop a line of bombs that carves out a trench perpendicular to the player so you can have an on-demand trench
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>>559942686
OPEN
LAST
THREAD
im not spoonfeeding u faggot
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>>559942547
>and got him fired from his job and banned from a horse sanctuary he volunteered at.
This didn't happen.
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>guys! They do a thing, it's bad!
>I totally didn't make shit up for attention, I swear!
Take your (you) and fuck off
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>>559942701
Because they made all the red stratagems the game will ever have already.
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>>559942558
We peaked at DoT fix after fire buffs 2 years ago and never recovered
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>>559942750
it literally did
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>>559942721
>Doesn't know
Just admit you're incompetent
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>>559942750
>This didn't happen.
>And if it did, it was a good thing
kill yourself troon
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>>559942830
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>>559936228
4chan has always been filled with 90% good people and dorks, and the only genuine niggers in here have always been
>mossad
>CIA/FBI
>tourists
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>>559942851
>>559942826
It didn't happen.
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>>559942937
>Makes claim
>Doesn't back it up
I accept your concession. You're incompetent.
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>>559942981
It's cute when newfags pretend they know things about this place.
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>>559943068
>I accept your concession.
up early today huh
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>>559943009
you deserve your misery
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>>559942981
Go into any /vg/ thread and they will all have a schizo.
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>>559943117
Been here since 2005.
I'm statistically likely to know way more than you.
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>>559943193
I'm happily rich and never have to work? You realise I am not the person you're talking about, right?
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>>559943232
Sure, lil' fella. Keep peddling that.
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>>559943180
I'm sure you think that means something, alas it just means you're even more retarded than I thought. I pity you.
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>>559942547
>fired
For what? How?
If they fucking lied about him, can't he sue?
>t. retard
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>>559936228
4chan is genuinely, without a hint of irony, full of actual nice people. reddit is full of "decent human beings (tm)" because anyone who is not a "decent human being" gets banned.
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>>559943232
Even if you were moot herself you'd still be wrong, faggot
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>>559943221
Schizos and all the newfags that think this is their home are tourists brought in by defamation from glowies.
>>559943359
Paid indian shill
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>>559936228
It is what it is. For all of the dogshit and schizoposting that has plagued it since the early 2010's this site is still pretty good. Minimal amounts of mod power tripping (if you can believe that), attentionfagging and the nature of this anonymous and unfiltered (mostly) discussion means the concept of "toxic positivity" and developer fellating is non existent. Meanwhile reddit and discord has gotten so bad precisely because they are coddling hugboxes. this is also why lowsodiumhelldivers somehow manages to be even worse than both
Even Deep Rock Galactic/GSG gets rightfully shit on for their terrible balancing and general neglect and stagnation of their game, as they should.
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>>559943427
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>>559943445
/wfg/ has had a schizo complaining about a /wfg/ clan since 2014.
>inb4 2014 is newfag.
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>>559943445
Ouch- That façade crumbled fast. You should work on that if you want to convince others.
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>>559943563
Now reply again my little sissy.
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>>559934932
she needs ass physics
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>>559943654
It is.
>>559943659
>t. paid 0.20c every 1000 posts
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>>559943437
Because when you have a bunch of people calling in bomb threats and telling your employer how big of a piece of shit you are (lies) they would rather just fire you than risk one of the looney troons actually doing something.
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why are p*bbies like this?
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Could we tone down the schizophrenia, please? I came here to talk Helldivers.
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>>559939747
bonesnapper is the only good looking medic armor in the game
halobabs need not apply
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>>559943437
firing the employee that is the cause of the threats (whether he is at fault or not) is easier than dealing with the constant stream of threats.
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>>559943437
They didn't, its all made up because it sounds cool.
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>>559944010
False
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>>559943437
Would you rather
>Spend time, money and effort figuring out which terminally online troon is sending threats to one of your retarded wagies
>Fire said retarded wagie
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>>559944041
I literally just got off the game to eat some slop... fucking niggy...
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>Last played 1 week ago
Alive game?
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I am glad I am self-employed.
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The new warbond is bad because the items aren't over powered. Why does AH hate us? HD2 should be for everyone.
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>>559944041
3/4
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I was playing Daxter and now I want a Helldivers clone with funny little creatures instead of humans. That is all.
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>>559944041
FULL!
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>>559943349
crackhead moment
>>559943654
anything past 2006 is eternal summer
>>
So you can only pick up 13 things of super credits every how many minutes?
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>>559944564
We have gotten two, "already existing support weapon but with a backpack," weapons already, and they both are bad. Why should we think the new flamethrower will be different
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>>559944818
90 every 50s or 150s I forget which, exclusively a shadownerf to chinks
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>>559944825
>the backpack weapons are bad because they're aren't overpowered.
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>>559944989
The maxim gun is worse than the machine gun, and it is not overpowered.
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>>559944825
Swiggers learned their lesson
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>>559937885
The dumb thing is, all the killzone weapons are ALMOST good, but have been consistently neglected to the point of uselessness.
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>>559925086
Nah, those were ours.
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>>559924135
>Look fashionable as fuck
>Get the best parts of Fortified and Engineering Kit
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>>559945294
I want eagles to look like this, its so cool
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>>559945294
2000s Ubisoft like HAWX or EndWar
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>>559944946
I guess I'm in a very chinese point in my life.
To the anon who made this table, thank you, I will make sure to give my friends a bunch of SC as well.
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When are we getting another emplacement? Hard mode: not a flame emplacement.
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>>559945589
Gas emplacement
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>>559925086
nope, jets over cyberstan were seaf's (afaik)
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>>559942981
nice tourist post. don't forget to pick up a tshirt at the gift shop
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>>559944564
jeet coded post
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superheavy laser goybeam cannon emplacement
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>>559945589
>laser emplacement
>gas emplacement
>mortar emplacement
There you go chuddy, happy? Stop crying now I joke about them just doing the same things iver and over in different forms but a mortar one actually would be fun
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>>559945891
>fun
Not allowed in this game.
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I just want the APC and an FRV variation or two. Is that too much to ask for?
>GL FRV
>LC FRV
>Gauss cannon FRV
>dual maxigun FRV
>shield generator FRV with a mounted stalwart on every door
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>>559940865
lol it reminds me of that unreal tournament gun, the redeemed
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>>559942030
>it's in your head
it's written right on the box
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>>559940865
Wait until you figure out Hellbomb mortar
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>>559946317
MOGGED
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yeah, this monthly warslop doesn't interest me.
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>Why doesn't Arrowhead -insert suggestion-?
This can always be answered with one or both of the following:
a) because that would be cool
b) because that would be hard

>why doesn't Arrowhead make the maxigun ap4??
a
>why doesn't Arrowhead fix the bugs??
b
>Why doesn't Arrowhead add new reds??
a and b
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Helldiver, stomp any bugs lately?
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Arrowhead, fix any bugs lately?
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>>559946292
redeemer, but both it and avril had homing/guiding
>>559946317
That anon is thoroughly, definitively owned
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>>559946831
Nobody can fix the bug you have. AIDS.
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>>559946317
I always have a good chuckle when I read this. Imagine being so cucked you need to pay another company to use your own internet.
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>>559946943
and other complaints from the favella
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>>559946181
More vehicle variants would be a great way to add more variety and spice, and with how easily they get popped and having limited uses, going nuts with the loadouts wouldn't be OP.
>melee mech
>with jet boosters and tesla cannon
Fuck just hire me AH
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>>559946715
I'm a stone cold botnigger xenocider, whore
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>play d10 squids
>join pub
>entire lobby is sub-50s who don't know how to fight squids
What causes this?
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>>559947273
Not like you need to know anything to fight squids d10 squids is like d5 bots/bugs
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>>559946317
>overcome impossible odds
Why are you ignoring that part?
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>>559947273
MOdivers. Every MO, if I'm fighting on a planet related to it I find a bunch of jobbers on d10 who seem to just be hoping they'll run into higher level/better players to carry them
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>>559947364
>d10 squids is like d5 bots/bugs
Yeah if you know how to fight them. In my experience the average pubbie does in fact not know how to fight them doing things like outright ignore cameras, ignore stingrays despite dying to them multiple times, bring no crowd control, lose 10+ reinforcements fighting in an already cleared area, etc...
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What about overpowered weapons AND impossible odds?
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>>559947523
overcome impossible odds != dogshit weapons
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>>559947192
fucking nobody should be paying twice for something they should only pay for once
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>>559947523
>impossible odds = all your weapons have to be dogshit
dumb fucking retard
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242342797778/76561198026977961

d10 bugs
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>>559947662
>>559947664
You can't overcome impossible odds if the weapons are overpowered you simpletons.
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lure mines are hilarious on squids
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>>559947604
>HD1 D15: the sequel
Couldn't be worse than what we're currently stuck with
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>>559947687
Nta but you talking about yourself? There are plenty of crazy strong weapons in the game
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>>559947523
WHERE'S THE OVERPOWERED WEAPONS, MANSLEY?
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>>559947757
>
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>>559947687
KYS you absolute faggot. You can't have impossible odds and overpowered weapons at the same time. That makes no sense.
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>>559945769
retard
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>>559947523
I never said I didn't want tougher challenges either.
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>>559947757
But the weapons being overpowered would in fact allow one to overcome impossible odds, as if the weapons were underpowered you'd be unable to overcome the odds.
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>>559936228
Ultimately, I feel like 4chan is one of the few places where genuine discussion can still happen. Plenty of shitposting and schizos yes, but those occasional threads where its just a bunch of nerds talking shop keep me coming back.
More than that, the other hobby boards are great too, DIY might be one of the best places to discuss such stuff on the internet frankly.

I was actually kinda sad when the hack happened last year
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>>559941967
SC spawn rates are set to practically non existent levels
you might be lucky to get 10sc in an hour now
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>>559947556
I think it's less of the fact that they "ignore" stingrays and more the fact that many builds just do not have a reliable/easy way to deal with the things. Same is true on the bot front to an extent with the drones, but you can somewhat ignore them (You could outright ignore them complete before the buff)
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>>559947896
Hard enemies like voxxers
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>>559947870
The GL update, obviously. And where are the impossible odds at? You're not actually struggling on D10, are you? That would be embarrassing.

>>559947872
I accept your concession, loser.
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>559947757
>559947896
this nigger is BEYOND dumb
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>>559947896
>You can't have impossible odds and overpowered weapons at the same time.
At the current time we have neither.
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>>559948028
nah not true
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>>559948062
>
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stir fry udit in a wok
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>>559947974
If you want overpowered weapons then you don't want a tougher challenges.

>>559947981
This has game has no impossible odds. If you're struggling with D10 then that is pathetic. D10 is easy even with subpar loadouts.

>>559948037
>Voxxers
>hard
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>>559931052
yes, diffraction is an issue
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>>559948031
But that is the issue, I consider not properly building your loadout to deal with everything on the front a part of not knowing how to play squids. Like if you don't bring literally anything to deal with stingrays but know how to avoid dying to them it's not an issue, but they never know how to avoid dying to them.
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>>559948240
don't forget to curbstomp swiggers while you're at it, we need red sauce for the dish
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Glazers would rather have mediocre weapons and mediocre enemies rather than good weapons and hard enemies
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>>559947523
>>559947872
>>559947757
Wait, no, I think he has a point
>Impossible odds imply that the base gameplay is challenging
>Overpowered weapons imply you can pick at the very least some weapons to maek the game easy
>Resault: Devs intantly are making the game balance shit by making the majority of the weapons shit to match the "Overcome overwhelming odds" by using some "Overpower weapons"
Shitty balance is apparently desgine choice from day 1.
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>>559948083
Cope and seethe, loser. I bet you contemplated suicide when AH patched out the supply pack exploit.
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>>559948248
>This has game has no impossible odds.
That is a problem yes.
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>>559948437
Nice projection, I hope you're not the same dipshit that said the trailer showcased "heroics" with the backpack flamer
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>>559948410
>samefagging
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>>559947665
They're not, you just don't comprehend what you're paying for. Odds are you're unemployed and unemployable, and normally get by on pirating everything, so encountering services you can't easily pirate makes you irrationally angry. This is very common on 4chins.
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>>559948028
Has this actually been proven? I haven't noticed any difference myself and still regularly get 2-4 drops a mission
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Why was d11-15 ok for HD1 but AH doesn't want to do it for HD2?
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>>559948248
Yes. Hard. Bet you die more than 10 times at extract because you can't handle the constant wave of infinitely spawning vox engines. You faggots always overcompensate
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>>559948559
>muh projection
You just want the game to be easy. Just admit it. Don't be shy.
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>>559948570
nu-uh
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>>559948607
>Odds are you're unemployed and unemployable
currently employed, so take that shit and shove it right back up your ass
I think it's safe to say that I shouldn't take your consoleniggardry seriously, your opinion has been discarded
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>>559948613
>but AH doesn't want to do it for HD2?
They can't because shitters like >>559948620
will throw a tantrum.
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>>559948825
But in HD1 most people didn't actually play the higher difficulties they found the right one for them and didn't just bash their dicks against the hardest expecting it to go well. I'd imagine the community of HD2 would do the same right?
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Flamethrowers and fire are already pretty good, are you guys just shitters or trolling?
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>>559948295
True, but it's funny that's it's a problem that would probably be "solved" if the bots and bug fronts simply had more flying threats that you had to deal with (Dragon roach doesn't fully count since it standing still for a bit allows for more weapons to easily dispatch it)
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>>559948240
Speaking of wok, i went to pf changs last week and it was kinda mid for what they were charging, and their honey shrimp is worse than panda so i give it a 6/10
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>>559948825
I accept your concession
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>>559948969
Why doesn't AH bring back gunship patrols?
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>>559948969
>bug
>needing more flyers when cliffracers exist
Yeah nah fuck off
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>>559948670
No one is saying this gay shit except (You). You really need to get a grip.
>>559949027
I haven't been to a chink restaurant in forever. What's your best recommendation, go local and hope for no cat?
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>>559949131
>Why doesn't AH bring back gunship patrols?
because shitters like >>559949074
would complain and throw a tantrum.
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>>559949152
Those things got killed by pretty anything with high rof, so not really the same space.
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>>559949219
Why wouldn't people upset at such difficulty simply play at a more manageably difficulty?
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>>559949157
>"i don't want the game to be easy!!"
>"I just want the weapons to be super strong and overpowered!!"
It's shameful to lie so boldly.
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>>559948248
>too retarded to understand what I'm saying
let me break it down a bit and spoonfeed you
wanting overpowered weapons doesn't mean overpowering every challenge instantly with no resistance
it means having weapons that feel fucking good to use
that isn't just numbers, it's sound design, the way the weapon handles, the recoil and effects
like the maxigun, you expect a scene like in Predator where in seconds an entire forest is cut down in a hail of bullets
you expect a gun that sounds fucking cool. it should whirr up. it should be loud. you should feel like a superhero when it spins up.
instead, it sounds like a wet fart, you're locked to the ground like a statue while enemies rush in and chew on you, and you run out of bullets way too fast
it should FEEL overpowered
but it doesn't. and that's when people get into shitfights saying the guns suck. because they FEEL like garbage.
the trouble is, when people voice their frustration regarding this problem (and it isn't just the maxigun), they often don't use soft and sensitive language to do so and they get ignored because they're "toxic" or whatever word you want to use.
If you want to be a pedantic retard that's great as it means you can be easily ignored next time, but in case you actually believe what you're saying, there it is.
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>>559949157
>dog/cat eating joke
So what gen of unc are you, boomer, X?
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Stop replying to Gucci Nigger bait
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>>559923825
>another cap for cringy officer LARPers to obsess over
dumbass hats on space helmets is easily one of the worst and most exhausting things these armor designers are doing
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>>559949342
Didn't those things pop up in fairly low diff's when they were a thing?
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>559949384
have a (You)
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>>559949324
Not saying they're difficult but they swarm just enough to be annoying, particularly with how erratic they can move sometimes makes it a pain to deal with in combination with ground bugs. Adding another flyer to the mix would be silly
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>>559947192
>>559948607
feels good to be a pc GOD, pay for the game once and i dont have to pay anything else besides my internet bill, oh and all the free sc I could ever want :^)
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>>559949538
Just give them the dragon roach system where their spawn rate is proportional to the difficulty with them probably not existing at d4 and lower.
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>>559949379
>wanting overpowered weapons doesn't mean overpowering every challenge instantly with no resistance
When people point to the back of the box asking where the overpowered weapons are, that is exactly what they are asking for. If the weapons don't do that then they are not "overpowered". That is what the community is asking for. You're being dishonest or you still haven't learned about the HD2 community in all this time.
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>>559949524
>no cowboy hat helmet for the cowboy warbond
>but LARPer predditors get another mother fucking officer cap
epig
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>>559949324
Fire-breathing Shriekers
Pairs nicely with Shrieking Shriekers (they stun you)
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>>559949379
A good example of this is when your character laughs maniacally when holding down the trigger on weapons. It feels cool for your guy to be going "HAHAHAHAHA" as you're laying down hundreds of rounds. Even better if those rounds are killing enemies by the dozen.
It doesn't have to be "overpowered" it just has to feel good.
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Better luck next time yeahaaawcucks!
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>faggot redditors are still crying about muh cowboy hat!
KEK!!
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So resistance level scales the difficulty?
Very High feels a lot more intense than Low.

This is stupid. Why did they do this? And there's only like 1-2 very high planets at any one time. No Very High bug planets rn.
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>>559949894
surprised they havent assassinated someone for not giving them their tranny cape yet
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>>559949549
I honestly don't think bugs should get another flying that fits that, just pointing out players coming from bugs and bots to squids are going to struggle due to the playstyle differences since it's probably the biggest difference in load out problem solving between the factions.
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>>559949935
its just the galactic war, the 'enemy resistance' doesnt impact anything gameplay wise
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>>559949524
if you're in a game with one of them and they try to force you to do something you don't want you can just RP as a disgruntled private and frag them
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>>559949684
oh you're just a retard then, thanks for letting me know
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>>559949379
>the trouble is, when people voice their frustration regarding this problem (and it isn't just the maxigun), they often don't use soft and sensitive language to do so and they get ignored because they're "toxic" or whatever word you want to use.
It doesn't matter what tone of language they use, the toxic positivity/glazer cult will be faggots about any criticism to the game.
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>>559949894
I could care less whether or not we get a goofy cowboy hat, but I cringe a little seeing them compare WWI aesthetic hats as a counter point to random other hats.
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>>559949379
They already buffed every gun to the point of them being the same and people still complain.

I guarantee if every gun was an instakill on every enemy people would still complain.

>>559950029
I think it does, did a solo mission on low resistance and saw basically no enemies, same diff solo mission on very high planet there were a lot more
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Pre-nerf Flamer was OP. You also got shat on by BTs with pre-nerf Flamer
>This kills the swigger cum dumpster
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>>559950041
Ahhh so you were just being dishonest from the start. Ok then.
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>>559950270
flamer was perfect at launch, then they fucked with it too much.

they need to just restore the exact stats it had at launch and it's fixed.
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>>559950220
I think it's probably just something like AH saying "cowboy hats don't fit the military aesthetic" despite the US Army cavalry wearing them historically. It's all nonsense anyway but fuck AH fuck swedes and fuck niggers
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>>559950041
lobby doko indeed
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>>559950008
That's a solid point. I think the big issue with newbies and MO chasers looking to be carried on the squids front is that they don't realise how truly squishy their big scary units are. Like one coming from bots may think the stingray requires AT but nope, you can take it down with a wide array of weapons, even sidearms (I personally use the senator).
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>>559950447
We literally don't hate sweden enough around here and it's unsatisfactory. We much up our swigger hate by at least 150%
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balance was perfect at launch
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>>559950672
Is that additive or multiplicative. Because I can do 50% more swigger hate. But 150% more? I'd have to buy a ticket to Stockholm and start chucking grenades.
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Hello, lobby?
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>>559950751
>90% of divers running around with breaker, backpack shield and railgun
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>>559950751
>neptranny
>bad opinion
the dynamic duo returns
>>559950781
let's compromise and just give our energy to the Malmo grenade gangs
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>>559950835
don't forget
>RR can't kill chargers with a single shot to the head
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>>559950835
because the game was actually difficult, so people tried to find a "meta", to make it easier. the "meta" didn't actually exist outside of people's heads, they just copied whate veryone else was doing, it was pure placebo.
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>>559951034
one of the worst changes they ever did, basically removed chargers from being a threat

they are meant to be enemies that take teamwork, if you can solo it easily with one shot it breaks the gameplay
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>>559951197
teamwork how?
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>>559950751
The game was harder, but the balance was much worse. There was basically a required build for the highest difficulty and it was extremely limiting and boring.

They could reintroduce this exact experience by just forcing a kit on the entire team in a separate mode. Or forcing people to bring only 1 stratagem each or some other limiting bullshit that isn't actually as fun as you fags would pretend.
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>>559951197
you mean like how you could kill their equivalent with one RR shot in the first game? That teamwork? I don't even know why I'm replying to (You) since you're just a disingenuous retard
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>>559951520
you're not allowed to talk about the first game, it's forbidden knowledge
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>>559951320
someone shoots it in the back while it's chasing someone else, or someone strips the armor allowing others to shoot it

my favorite was tracking the weak belly with the laser cannon through the gaps in the armor

they should never have removed armor full resistance to lasers, made lasers completely boring to use

>>559951429
they can't force an experience when every enemy dies easily to every weapon. the game was actually balanced around enemies before, now it's balanced around whiners who want to play instagib.

maybe there were one or two weapons that needed fine tuning. but that is all what it was, fine tuning.
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>>559951520
>the first game and the second game have to be identical just because
>"Two RR shots to kill a charger?! NOOOO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE AND NOT FAIR AT ALL!!"
Pathetic.
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Behold, your devs
So what the fuck is Alexus then? Some smug dipshit who poisons the well in Discord?
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>>559951520
>appeal to le first game
helldivers 1 =/= helldivers 2
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>>559949894
I just don't like officer caps because the people who use them are always so fucking retarded
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>>559951724
>you fucking chuds don't know how shit works...
>...it's actually much worse
wonderful.
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>>559951649
They really hated that I brought up a game they never played and didn't know existed until the second one came out.
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people in this thread so bored they're larping as oldfags now?
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>>559951724
>No balance team
>No one sitting there doing sanity checks on changes
>This is why there are so many undocumented changes
>Probably why we get retarded stealth nerfs
>For all we know there could be a really salty dev intentionally shitting things up
>Further evidence of terrible version controls which is why old bugs pop up constantly
I HATE SWEDEN
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>>559951724
>he typed all this up and hit send with pure unironic belief that this was a good thing
>not having a balance team is le good, actually!
Jfc
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>>559951652
>they can't force an experience when every enemy dies easily to every weapon
Not all weapons are equal, the exact same experience could be replicated by just limiting builds to something shit which is exactly what launch was.
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>>559951930
People born in 2008 are starting to be old enough to post here now. That should explain this phenomena to you.
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>>559951724
This means the balancing faggotry from launch to escalation of freedom was a team effort and everybody at Arrowhead deserves to be strapped down to the surstromming chair.
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Hey Peter remember da creek?
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>Arrowhead announce they have balance team, and game is not balanced
>SHIT GAME NOTHING BALANCED
>>Arrowhead announce they have balance team, and game is balanced
>SHIT GAME EVERYTHING IS IDENTICAL
Balance is to coop vs AI what story is to porn, the idea of having it there is nice but its not actually important, see every single unbalanced but fun/successful coop game ever
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>>559952318
Yehehehehe, it was the best time of my life.
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>>559951770
yeah, 1's still better and it's a crime that the 2nd is stagnating so hard
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>>559951724
The game designers are in charge of balance. The game design team is the balance team. Why is this so difficult to grasp?

No, you don't want one of them to become the "balance guy" who sits on his ass tweaking stats all day. That wouldn't help, the issue is that the game designers are horrific players and think dying to lone berserkers is normal. You'd just get even more weird balance changes. What Arrowhead actually needs is internal playtesters.
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>>559952356
See, in that first scenario of AH actually having a balance team there's at least someone who can be held accountable for the lack of it. Also balance in coop is still important for bringing subpar weapons up to scratch so people aren't all using just the same shit over and over. Variety is the spice and all that, if you ignore balance and let your meta stagnate you will kill the game.
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>>559952356
I don't know. There are some old co-op games I've played where the games is fun, but there's just a decent amount of cool weapons that just completely get left in to dust to the point at why you wonder why they even bothered. Just seems like at that point so weapons are ended up being a waste of dev time or something.
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>>559952159
no, the game was balanced around enemies, enemies were actually individually hard. You can't fix this without fixing the weapons. there is no amount of not-fixing-the-weapons you can do to restore that.

and I say "hard" with big quotation marks, the reality is there was no enemy in the game that was actually that difficult. All the enemies were completely fair.

I think it's better to say all the enemies were "just right" in terms of difficulty. the game was balanced so that enemies individually were "just" right, not too hard, not too easy, with their own strengths and weaknesses that you needed to cover as a team. just right.

It was actually great how the only thing that changed with difficulty was the number and types of enemies that spawned, so a single grunt enemy was exactly the same on helldive as it was on easy. D9 didn't make titans harder it just spawned a bunch of them.

now every enemy is simply fodder, every single one, even the heavies and titans are nothing but fodder because they die in one shot. there is no experience there.

there is no experience to be "forced" with a loadout because all the weapons are broken. you have to go back and restore the weapons to restore the enemies to restore the gameplay to restore the experience. it's the only way.

the game sucks until they fix the guns. the guns were perfect on launch.
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>>559952657
Yes you do fucking want a balance team who have no hand in creating the same things, because Alexus has went on record saying the Orbital Napalm Barrage will never be tuned or balanced because it was his idea. It's immune to being rebalanced because it's his "baby."
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>>559952525
Go play HD1
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>>559935476
>HD2 Sneaky Stuff
I thought it didn't work anymore? and how safe is it to use?
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>>559952318
I always preferred Gaellivare
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>>559952943
You can just google cheat table sc dropper shit and get results anon
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If the gas mortar has the same fire rate and ammo economy as the EMS Mortar, it will completely powercreep both existing mortars out of use.
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>>559952356
>Balance is to coop vs AI what story is to porn
biggest brainlet take. if the game isn't balanced then it's not fun. a good experience requires balance.

Imagine if half-life 2 wasn't balanced, or halo 1 wasn't balanced. those games were so tightly balanced to perfection. there is no game designer alive today who could balance those games better than they already were. they were single player games that were good because of their balance.
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>>559952847
Didn't read no one cares. Make your own game.
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>>559953059
EMS is a force multiplier. anything that is good is made better with an EMS mortar shutting down the enemy and forcing them to stay in one spot allowing the good thing to go to work on it. EMS will still have a place
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>>559953057
that one is for cheatengine
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>>559953101
>Halo 1
>good balance
>the game where the pistol destroys everything including vehicles and one shots hunters
kek
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>>559953101
>half-life 2 wasn't balanced
? There's no balance between the pistol, the revolver, the crossbow, the pulse rifle alt fire and the gravity gun
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>>559947257
>and with how easily they get popped
Especially now with the damage "bug" (poorly thought out swiggerism).
How they haven't hotfixed this shit is a mystery to me. It completely ruins the gameplay of the sentries, vehicles and Exosuits.
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starting to notice that the same autist that's been arguing in these threads making literal paragraphs defending the swedes and the balance might be the same anon making literal paragraphs against people wanting more powerful and fun guns.
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>>559953223
Okay? Does the same shit
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>>559952671
>>559952681
You would complain either way
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>>559952912
there's occasional HD1 lobbies I've joined before. so what's your next cope, that I'm not playing it day in day out? how far we gonna move these goalposts?
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>>559953241
the pistol isn't a secondary weapon or even a starter weapon. it's a primary, it's meant to be as powerful as a rifle. the actual competitive multiplayer starter weapon is the plasma pistol.
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>>559953101
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGpFEv1-mAo&pp=ygUUZ2FiZW4gb24gZ2FtZSBkZXNpZ24%3D

But I am sure you know better than one of the most successful men on the planet.
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>>559953313
Just play HD1. don't play HD2 because the balance isn't to your standards.
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>normie friend watching the warbond trailer
>as soon as the video starts he blurts out "oh wow they're going heavy on the nazi imagery!"
I hate normies so much.
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>>559952907
That's a problem with a specific employee, not team structure. A theoretical balance team is still going to be powerless against a childish person like that, the only solution to that issue is for the retard to get reprimanded/fired by his superior.
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>>559953286
No, cause I've played other co-op games where the balance is fine, and feel no need to complain.
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>>559953401
Then get to work, dumbass swigger! Start earning those blank checks from Sony already.
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>>559953278
powerful is boring, working with limitations is fun.
if you could push a button to delete every enemy on the map and instantly win the game that would be powerful but not fun.
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>>559953436
What games?
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>>559953278
gee, really? I never would have guessed that the reddit spacing faggot defending some of the most useless devs in the industry is also in favor of something that not a single person actually playing the game wants
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>>559953436
>I've played other co-op games where the balance is fine
This is the part where I say "What games" then you say [Insert games here] and everyone laughs at you. So lets just skip and it admit you're a retard trying to fit in to /hdg/ culture.
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>>559952847
>dogshit primaries, useless secondaries and up to three viable picks per stratagem category was good actually
>inaccurate stratagems and 50% increased call-in time was good actually
>-1 stratagem count was good actually
Dilate.
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>>559953383
valve's success is from selling loot boxes and running their little black market cosmetics gambling economy anon. they are basically an illegal unregulated casino with a video games front.
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>>559953286
>make a dumb argument
>multiple people point out how it's wrong
>n-nooo you just complain!!
Maybe the hugbox of reddit is more your speed.
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>>559953383
>fun
what ? I don't know what that is, what is that? this old man is talking gobbledygook
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>>559953480
>if you could push a button to delete every enemy on the map and instantly win the game that would be powerful but not fun.
That's what redditors and /hdg/ want, unironically.
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Imagine giving a single (You) to that retarded tranime faggot. Imagine even reading that shit after noticing the reddit spaces
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>>559951724
It seems more and more that these faggots don't have "teams" for anything. It really is just them working on shit at that daycare studio entirely off of vibes.
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>>559953689
>
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>>559953519
DRG comes to mind. Sure some weapons are better than others in that game to a degree, but I've never felt like ones was so far below the rest it was worth complaining about.
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>>559953689
Anything that isn't assault divers is faggot shit.
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>>559953568
>dogshit primaries
there was nothing wrong with any primary, they all had their uses against most enemies. if they weren't effective against a particular enemy that was part of that enemy's design to make it more fun and challenging.

what you mean by "dogshit" is actually "doesn't instantly delete heavies"
what you actually mean by "dogshit" is "not cheating", you are a cheater at heart, you can't appreciate good design, you just want a free win. any primary that doesn't give you free wins is "dogshit"

this is the meaning of "dogshit".

>>inaccurate stratagems and 50% increased call-in time was good actually
>-1 stratagem count was good actually
literally git gud.
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>>559953689
What the fuck is a logistics diver?
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>>559953101
I was just thinking about L4D and the way they balanced the weapons in that game by just limiting your access to them. Starting off with just a melee weap and building intensity as they give you bigger guns throughout until the finale, perfection.
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>>559953689
sweaty femdiver
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>>559953865
Easy game. When people say a game is balanced well they mean it's easy and non challenging.
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>>559953923
Guys who run supply pack but like actually using it to help their team.
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>there was nothing wrong with any primary, they all had their uses against most enemies.
Don't you ever get tired of baiting?
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>>559953923
guessing people who run with supply pack and giving it away
>>559953965
h-hey
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Anyone saying HD2 is bad is just a Darktide tourist, ignore anti-HD2 posts.
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>>559953923
Probably something more akin to a support role, supply pack and shit aka you fags
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>>559951724
People still haven't realized there's no QA team either and the programmers are expected to find their own bugs and glitches lmao
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>>559954012
HD2 isn't exactly hard either...
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>>559953902
No, what I mean by dogshit it that they, with very few exceptions, had absolutely fuck all for damage and not enough magazines to compensate for that. It felt terrible. It WAS terrible and they should have known that simply by having developed HD1 in the past.
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>>559954093
>crashes AMD display drivers for 2+ years
>programmer probably marked it working as intended then went to lunch
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>Where are the overpowered weapons???
trident, eruptor, crossbow, purifier, grenade launcher, recoilless rifle, orbital napalm, orbital gas, gas grenade, thermite, leveller, senator, talon, supply backpack, coyote (yes, still), double freedom, arc thrower when it works

If you really, genuinely think there aren't ANY overpowered weapons in the game you are a giga-shitter with no ground to stand on when it comes to arguing balance.
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>>559954109
Correct, which is why retards asking for overpowered weapons in an already easy game should be laughed at.
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>>559953945
L4D is pretty well tuned yeah. Some guns are better than others but the tiered system kinda makes the at point, and on equal tiers there not to far off.
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>>559953627
>Yeah bro its so easy I just can't do it cos of like, reasons ya know
You're pathetic
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>>559953689
Trenching is inherently stupid in this game because almost nothing synergizes with it.

>The safest stance you can be in is prone, which makes you a smaller target and drastically increases explosive resistance. This does not synergize with trenches which require you to poke your head over a ridge via crouching/standing
>The only weapons and stratagems that benefit at all from trenches are grenades and mortars, the former is limited in resources, and the latter is now a whopping 3 out of 50+ stratagems
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>>559954120
>had absolutely fuck all for damage
every primary could chew through fodder just fine.
again, what you mean here is that they didn't instantly delete heavies for you.
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>>559954387
Its fun. Cry more.
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>>559954279
I mean if you ask me id want them to either nerf everything or buff everything to be on the same same level more or less. But even outside of that fact when was the last time you saw someone take the sterilizer? Having a blanced weapon spread doesn't mean everything needs to be OP.
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>>559954109
current D10 is maybe what D6 was at launch. Old D9 was actually pretty hard. And it was more fun for it. I miss being forced to stick together because it was so difficult. Tired of people running off to solo half the map because it's that easy.
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>>559954483
>Spend five minutes digging out a trench
>Team is already moving on to the next objective
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>>559953532
There's this one NEET that spends literal hours everyday writing paragraphs after paragraphs defending AH in almost every thread for a few weeks now. Probably doesn't even play the game considering how much he spends defending the swedes.

Anyways the BFGL was so pathetic it's actually not even fun to shoot too so I have no idea where these retards come from that constantly say it's completely fine because they're scared AH will make the already easy game even more easier.
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>>559954256
Now the real hot take, HD2 is one of the most balanced coop games out there. Nearly all other coop games would need a scale from A to F tier on characters/weapons/utility, but pretty much everything in HD2 fits into either A tier (like Crossbow) or B tier. You have to go out of your way to find anything that would be C tier in that it isn't good enough to even do its purpose, like the Sterilizer.

No one could design a loadout where I couldn't solo D10, nothing is that bad.
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>>559954387
The idea is setting up thematic maps, it's not for actual trench warfare since helldivers would naturally not be there for that, but making maps in areas that SEAF had been entrenched(or fucking concept having them be there still instead of limiting them to only cities) would be fun to break of the monotony.
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Explosive resist +throwables armor good
Gas Mortar good
GigaGrenade probably good
Handshake good
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>>559954668
nta but it's the most boring coop game, yes.
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>>559954660
>everyone who disagrees with me is one person
tell me more, retard-kun
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What is a mudskipper that sounds like a pokemon
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>>559954654
Even at that point the game had the problem of some weapons being to strong at dealing with shit making the game easy mode. This was the point where the devs had a choice on how to balance things, and they decided the best thing to do was to just make everything easier instead of properly nerfing the OP stuff.
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>>559954658
Its fun. Cry more.
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>>559954786
Then don't play it. Go back to darktide, you will not change even 1 persons mind.
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>>559926143
>>559925175
>>559924938
It's fake bullshit spread around by the leakertrannies anons... The same guy made the fake "heavy gunship" a year ago and spread it hear as well.
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>>559954672
Even if Arrowhead map new maps/terrain gens/POIs they'll just inadvertently remove it later.
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there should be a black people faction
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>>559954912
>he doesn't know
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>>559955090
I don't even play darktide you schizo. I have like 1600 hours in DRG though.
Yes it's a better game than HD2.
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>>559954668
Saying you can solo the game with anything thing isn't a proof of balance, just that your personal level of skill can gap whatever that difference is. Now saying you can solo the game with any load out, taking with in the same 10% time frame of each other is.
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>>559954919
which ones were that? I remember the railgun not actually being all that special despite reddit ""people"" kicking you for not taking it
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have they patched the cheat engine work around yet, need to help my mates get some SC for the new warbnd
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>>559955372
no
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>>559955278
No one cares.
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Not sure why so many people hate the balancing. Aside from a few stinkers like Orbital EMS I see pretty much every strategem get used in different situations.
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>>559955290
>Saying you can solo the game with anything thing isn't a proof of balance
Yes it is.
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>>559955447
yippee
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>>559955518
We're being raided daily by Darktide shitposters
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>>559955536
No it's not
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>>559955614
Yes, it is.
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>>559955470
Cared enough to respond lmao. I have less than 200 hours in HD2 btw, and already getting stagnant so I just go check threads like this to enjoy the schadenfrude. Don't worry I'll unlock the new warbond with the SC and medals I cheated in and spend like 2-3 matches before going back to shitting on the Swedes.
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>>559955704
No one cares. Didn't read.
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>>559955306
>>559955306
Breaker, RR, Eats, Rail gun was pretty good too since it dealt with anything funny motars at least on bots.
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Imagine if they dropped a trench map biome/feature to go with the new bond.
It would probably be shit in some way or another but still
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>>559955727
>RR on bots on release
rofl
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>>559955608
saaar it all darktide shit poster saaar ignore them saaaar
fucking retard lmao
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>>559955786
next warbond will have lava buckets so you can fill the trenchs
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>>559955852
Its funny how you try to deny it, but everything you posted is 1:1 darktide posting.
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>>559955667
Well, in that case with your mindset, no game ever is unbalanced, making your opinion worthless don't it?
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>>559955954
Incorrect. There are lots of tools in games which are worthless, and builds that you can't use to beat their highest content.
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>>559955930
I literally only have 5 hours in darktide lmao
next cope please!
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>>559953689
Nuker helldiver
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>>559956024
Go back to Darktide.
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>>559956020
Barely any. By your definition, a guy playing a year to git gud enough to beat a game with a bad option, when a super strong option that allows nearly anyone to beat it is "balanced"
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>get a good map roll with a fortress corner at the bottom of a hill
>clear the map
>but leave the fortress (must be eye of sauron variant)
>we spend 20-25 minutes simply digging a fuck ton of trenches
>we fight
roleplay kino
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>>559956024
So you should have no problem saying that Vermintide and Darktide are terrible games then.
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>>559956068
you do know you are literally talking like an actual jeet
>SAAAR YOU ARE PAKI SAAAR
>NO YOU ARE NOT WHITE SAAR YOU ARE PAKI SAAAAR
like lmao
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>>559956174
not even the schizo you were talking to but dude you're retarded
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>>559956226
Thanks for ousting yourself. Just stick your own dead general retard.
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>>559956024
Stop replying to the tranny, anon, just let him throw his tantrum and ignore it.
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>>559953790
You expected the people who made Magicka to whisk themselves together as some professional AAA studio?
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>>559956150
No, its most coop games. Not going to address your fake situation, not relevant to HD2.
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>>559953689
A Helldiver. That's all there is.
There are no "assault divers" or "defense divers" or "logistics divers", there are only Helldivers
Fuck this retarded faggot shit.
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thanks for playing with me
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>>559956174
Vermintide I enjoyed but Darktide is actual slop. HD2 is slop too, but not as much as Darktide. It's an okay time killer but that's about it, like eating slop food for the calories rather than the enjoyment or it's good.
>inb4 you are a burger or obese
wrong and wrong

>>559956295
my bad bro it's just more fun mocking these people rather than playing the game.
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>overcome impossible odds
"Yaaaaaass :)"
>use overpowered weapons
"Noooooooo! :("
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>>559955536
"good balance" doesn't mean "every weapon is capable of taking on any threat easily", it means weapons have reasonable strengths and weaknesses with trade-offs and benefits, that they are good in their role but not so strong as to not allow other weapons a place in their own roles. Imagine if the liberator could kill heavies as easily as it could kill chaff. That's not balanced, that's retarded.
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>>559956370
So you're saying a new player that barrely managed to beat a set of lvl 10 missions, could be the game with any given random load out?
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>>559956370
it's the situation you yourself just offered
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>>559956597
>Food analogy
No one cares fat fuck lmao.
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Anyone got the latest CheatEngine in portable form?
looks like the devs stopped uploading the source code to github and want you to subscribe to their patreon if you don't want to install a version packed with adware and shit
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i play darktide
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what for
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>>559956690
>it means weapons have reasonable strengths and weaknesses with trade-offs and benefits
Agreed. Which HD2 has. Which being able to do D10 with any loadout shows.
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>>559956714
Nope.
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just stop cheating
it's that easy
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>>559956715
I'm probably thinner than you and even exercise more but that's how I felt when I was living in the States. Eating just for the sake of eating because the food there is mid. At least it isn't UK food but hey.
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>>559956816
>>559956865
disingenuous at best
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>>559956880
Uh fat fuck no one cares
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Do starving thirdies really get upset when food gets brought up?
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>>559956907
No you're just wrong and don't want to admit it.
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>>559956816
there are no weapons that have weaknesses anymore
there are no enemies that require tradeoffs or teamwork anymore

that is what D10 shows
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>>559956740
zealot sissy??
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>>559956993
Not even remotely true. RR and AMR on bots.
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>>559956990
not even the guy you're replying to, just pointing out the fact that you're obviously trolling
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>>559954412
>nerfjeet putting words in people's mouth
another day that ends in y
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>>559956816
Honestly besides some outliers like the Pacifier or Pummeler, good god, it really is getting annoying how people completely disregard everything that exists but their favorite meta guns. Make your own goddamn fun, figure what feels good to you. If I wasn't pressured by the game to make sure XP goes towards customizable weapons I'd be rocking the Killzone or Halo guns more often for the fun of it rather than focusing on min-maxing attachments on more drab guns I don't care much for. But some folks act like you're griefing if you're not a drum mag liberator fag or carrying an eruptor.
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>>559957105
Im not, and if you're not him then clearly you're not paying attention.
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>>559956370
Nigger you're confusing the difference between viability and balance. Any option in this game is viable. Not ever option is balanced, not a hard concept.
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>>559957120
/hdg/ has a culture of not wanting to admit they like HD2. Has nothing to do with the game at all its just popular kids club to pretend its bad.
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>>559957251
Those are different things. But not relevant at all to HD2. The game is balanced and nothing in unviable.
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the game is bad because it's too easy
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>>559957378
Wrong, if that was the case the reply you skipped over would've answered.
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>>559956717
It was literally my first time installing CE and I never had to ask retarded question like this. This general is really filled with the biggest mouth-breathers JC.
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>Ping bunker door early on
>Nobody wants to open it
>Move on
>20 mins later
>Blue throws a walking barrage on top of me because theres a small patrol
>Then later on he walks into my napalm barrage thats 10 seconds into its barrage
>Pelican gets here
>Blue is way off on his own at the bunker door
>Decide I dont feel like waiting on him and hop in
>Blue: "You guys are morons"
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>>559954668
>No one could design a loadout where I couldn't solo D1
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>>559957459
Im sure you meant that post for someone else. Read better next time.
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>>559957476
easy
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>>559957464
enjoy your pozzed install
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>>559957476
The fact you think some of those are bad really sums up this whole argument. Skill issue.
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>>559957539
I accept your concession then, no need to reply.
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>>559957476
post your hours and career page
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>>559957636
I only think the laser turret is kind of mid
But the loadout looks funny so I wanted to post it
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>>559924061
They both look like shit tbqh
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>>559957640
I didn't give up anything, you started shitposting.
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>>559957635
Just say you have skill issue because you have no clue how to check for shit. Now beg for a lobby like the goy you are.
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>>559957476
Pyro tech grenades are a pretty decent option. You could do way worse also that guns not great but there are much worse options.
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>>559956365
>Magicka
Speaking of which, they also vibes dev'd that game to the point where it's completely unplayable on modern OSes. Arrowhead has historically been completely dogshit at gamedev.
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>>559924426
>De mage increases the closer you are to the target
>Unless you're REALLY close to the target, then it decreases because fuck you
I'm 40 seconds in and I already want to kill myself
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>All the darktide shitposters got bored
>General returns to normal
Every time.
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>>559957804
I like them for pretty much everything
Two kills most armor, kills chaff, closes holes, sets shit on fire, and you get 6 of them

The epoch of grenades
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>>559927630
Ironically this applies outside HD2 too. In FFXIV JP players are a lot better at explaining their issues when giving feedback to the devs and the raiding videos would actually show proper diagrams and explanations instead of being some random streamer faggot overlaying his face on top of a stream clip.
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>>559924426
The power of anime wins again. Glorious wisdom from nipponland.
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SWEET LIBBERDEH!!!!!! :3 M'LEEEEEEG xD
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>>559957802
you can find people complaining all over with a single google search
but I guess you're a special boy that gets a different download from the official page to what everyone else gets
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>>559924426
Thing japan is better 90 percent of the time and im tired of pretending is not.
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>>559958295
>
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Have you guys ever tried having fun instead of just complaining about things that don't matter?
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>>559958321
yea it's called not having a skill issue. you should look that up too sometime.
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>>559946317
>buying physical games
>buying always online physical games

lol?
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>>559958474
laughing at the swedes is actually fun though. they are pseudo-lolcows at this point.
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>>559958530
You don't get it, they make for excellent desk coasters when they get put offline
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>>559957472
>find bunker with sc
>can't get into with warp pack
>yes even dive-warping
>ping it while I'm trying, no response
>pull open map
>start harassing nearest dude in chat
>watch him proceed to run in my general direction but a wide sweep around
>meanwhile enemy waves are pushing him and now me out
>trying to get him to fight back and push back to the bunker
>"where"
>ping it again
>he's complaining he's "bugged", can't see me on map
>apparently can't open his eyes to just see me 100m away either
>continues to let enemies push him out of the city
>now no one is anyone near
>other team mate seems to not speak english
>no one will help me push back in
>d10, level ~90
How do some of these fucks manage to eat and breath at the same time is beyond me
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>Medium armor is explosive resist and extra grenades
Alright
>Light armor is explosive resist, gas resist, and reduced sidearm recoil
SHIT!!!! IT'S SHIT!!!!!!!
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>>559958623
Where the FUCK is the heavy armor
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>>559958667
in the super store, retard
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>>559958667
pay up goy, its in the super store
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>>559958623
Where's this info coming from? I haven't paid too much attention to the warbonds that much for their passives when I'm getting them, is it normal for light and normal armors in a bond to be completely different passives?
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>>559958684
But I don't WANT to use my totally fairly gained supercredits on the superstore
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>>559957813
>Swiggers try to swindle people into buying something already free in-game
>Instead of stop being such fucking bums and actually doing some work
How hard is to make a knife and call it a trench knife lazy fucks
>tfw couldn't come up with a trench mace, either a normal one or one explosive ala caber
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>>559955118
I do not doubt you. I am saying I fully believe the swiggers would do that themselves.
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>>559958475
the lengths some of you retards go just to be contrarians
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>>559958789
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>>559926823
There is armor that makes ergo irrelevant.
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Did we ever figure out why they reduced SC pickup limit from 120 to 90?
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>>559958902
Isn't it obvious?
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>>559958749
I got the info from the playstation blog. It's the first time different armor tiers have differing passives. Hopefully the knight armor gets something good, assuming it drops into the superstore alongside the warbond.
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>>559958474
the nerftranny engagement bait is a psyop funded and organized by mossad to keep young men distracted and ignorant to society's injustices
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>>559958943
I'm pretty sure no more than 20 or 30 can spawn naturally in a mission if they wanted to fuck with that they could easily (I assume) cap it to 30 per mission.
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>>559958474
I had fun before they buffed everything into oblivion and broke the enemy spawns.

now I complain.
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>>559957476
We posting challenge run load outs? I'd be pretty impressed if I saw someone solo with this.
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i like the Warrant, hopefully the Veto is a nice alternative.
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>>559958840
you're literally like a month late at least and is still finding ways to cope about not being able to install it like holy shit lmao.
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>>559958817
alot of people have asked to get the shovel aswell as the shitty shotgun u find on the ground
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>>559958817
no one gives a shit about another melee slop weapon
shovel is cool because you can dig with it
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>>559959316
I know how to install it you retard
but I don't want to install the 7.6 version after the dev went full jew and hid the source code and the clean download is only available by paying on patreon
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>>559959386
>shitty shotgun
watch your fucking tone when you talk about the SG-88
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If I'm looking for chinks on D1 planets, am I looking for moon runes or that wide Courier font?
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>>559959182
From the looks of it, the Veto is going to have at best a 7 round magazine. Even if it is gyrojet like the Dominator, the rounds would have to do something pretty damn special to not fill in the same niche as the Verdict and Talon.
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>>559959498
>drop SG-88
>AKM icon appears on the minimap
member
i member
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>>559959484
is this the first time you get called a retard? just curious. If you're that worried then go pay the retard tax lmao.
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What warbond should I get next? I've finished Helldivers Mobilize, Democratic Detonation, Dust Devils, and Redacted Regiment (my favorite by far.)

Feel set on primaries, thinking of either siege ready armor, gas grenades, talon, ultimatum, or the warp pack, but idk. I'm pretty useless against the bot heavies and I find myself struggling on level 10 bugs
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The shovel should FREE tbdesu
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>>559959629
get the warp pack
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>The eruptor but that sends bullets in the other direction if you hold M1 doesn't happen in first person
And you niggers told me it was intended because of the shitty handling
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>>559959629
If you want fun, then go for Control Group, Siege Breakers, Python Commandos, Servants of Freedom or Borderline Justice. For meta content, Polar Patriots and Urban Legends.
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>>559959615
I mean, probably a lighter weapon than Verdict, and a high damage medium pen if we're lucky in exchange for a small clip. Not much point being competitive about sidearms, they're an emergency tool either way unless you really love some Senator headshots.
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>>559959629
Personally very biased to control group just for the warp pack. Allows you to bunkerdive without relying on retardos (though there is still one certain design of bunker that's nigh impossible to get into, thanks Sweden), but also just fantastic for greater movement speed and repositioning, saves my ass so many times.
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>>559959807
Is the perk from the killzone armor still exclusive to that set? it's pretty good for bugs desu you can take the gas nades, brap dog and the flamethrower and party like it's 1943. Resistance to everything is nice.
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>>559957476
>"this laser sentry is my wife" loadout
Pretty cool.
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>>559959916
The Dust Devils perk is a close substitute. But yes, Acclimated is exclusive to the warbond, no way to get it otherwise unless you owned the game last Christmas when half the warbond content got given to all players for free.
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>>559959841
Is it the city bunker that's annoying to get into? I don't think there was a single bunker I couldn't get into but I remember the city one being fucking annoying for some ungodly reason.
Of course that's before I cheated in all the SC so I ignore all bunkers now unless my teammate wants to open it which is fine because they still come with ammo and stims too.
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>>559959163
I couldn't solo that shit. But, I'm still pretty confident in my ability to use the stun lance/ shitty flag and knives still, 2-3 tap everything besides Alpha commanders. So some chad could probably do that.

Actually speaking of knives, give me fucking 40 of them. Fuck.
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>>559960032
I'd bump it to at least D tier just for the passive it unlocks a really fun gameplay style vs bugs.
Fucking useless otherwise though.
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>>559959916
>Resistance to everything is nice
Nah desu, jack of all trades. What's much more fun is going all in on one damage type, ie. fireproof armour with a bunch of flame strats, or the same for gas. You end up something like the Scarecrow where you're wading through fire/gas/lightning and just shrugging it off.
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>>559949157
Try panda express as baby's first chinese food. If you don't like it, then go local but ONLY for actually well-received chinese restaurants, keyword here being well-received (google reviews) as that's the only real guarantee for quality control.
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>>559960173
The brap dog and gas nades fix the very obvious limitation of the flamethrower which is shit getting close to you, hitting you and setting you on fire because of flinch. imo i'd rather take 50% vs everything over 75% vs fire only, 50% is good enough anyways.
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>>559960150
We should get 1 knive refunded on a kill with them. I'd say let us pick them up after use but you know there code probably wouldn't let that happen.
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>>559960130
Yeah it's mostly in cities but can spawn outside of them too I believe (just only on city maps?). It's like a wide ramp leading straight down to the bunker, and said bunker is sort of standalone and not built into rock or anything, so it's thin enough that if you get too close you'll just warp straight through to the other side. But trying to warp from further back means you're up in elevation on the ramp and the game doesn't seem to like that either, frustrating af
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>>559959163
>>559960150
You don't have the AoE and DPS to clear the flags, the only way to clear is to somehow block the enemy access to the flags with some exploit.
You also don't have anything to clear the bug holes inside the caves so full clear is completely out of question.

Under regular circumstances it's not possible to clear that mission with that loadout.

Do you anons even play solo D10?
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>>559960310
If you want to flame orbital a bug nest and walk through the fire and flames to get the holes, you'll want that 75. Besides it's very rare to experience multiple damage types in one mission, unless you're taking all these various damage types.
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>>559960130
>>559960369
Crouch.
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>>559960387
We had anons saying you could pretty much solo the game with anything ealier man with the whole 'everything blanced' bit. So figured someone could. I'm no where nearly good enough at the game to think of soling without heavy stealth build/explosive abuse.
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>>559960369
>It's like a wide ramp leading straight down to the bunker,
Yea that piece of shit lmao. You have to like go prone and warp from the side after clearing all the clutter. Genuinely thought AH patched warping into bunkers but it was just Swedish jank as usual.
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>>559960612
The only way to clear with that loadout is to spam so many mines that the engine shits itself and decides to stop spawning enemies. In a regular fighting scenario, you don't have the clear power to free the flags once they are fully raised.
I didn't keep up with the discussion, but the anon that said you can pretty much solo the game with anything likely never played D10 solo with genuinely bad loadouts.
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>>559953923
The fun support role for me.
>Supply pack and keeping an eye on teammate's reserves. Empty RR backpack = resupply, etc.
>Vehicles, normally default as driver since I know I'm better at it than the average pubbie.
>Expendables, and always pinging them to let other divers know it's okay for they to grab just in case.
>Sentries because they're good to have as decoys and creating a defensive ambush.
>Emplacements to further create some good holdout spots, especially the shield + Bastion/Exosuit.
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Joel is winning this MO and taking our izzat, again. How can we recover from this, bros?
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>>559960876
I'm cheating SC to buy the next battlepass and superstore page to drain his izzat
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>>559960801
>to spam so many mines that the engine shits itself and decides to stop spawning enemies.
Is that an honest to god thing? Could I just run like all mines and waltz right through any d10? Cause if so that's hilarious
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>>559960876
https://hellocrime.itch.io/kiss-my-camera
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>>559960949
>drain his izzat
L-lewd...
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>>559960983
Yes, and not only you can cuck enemies from spawning, you can actively despawn enemies already aggro'd onto you if you call down mines on a precise axis of the tile you both are on.
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>>559960983
NTA but it worked like that in vermintide 2 if you set the CPU affinity to 1 core and limited CPU priority you could speedrun through levels even on the highest difficulty without encountering any enemies.
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I HATE FLYING SQUIGGERS
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>>559961467
Take a shotty then aimlet



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