Cake Edition>News:Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138Larian's next game trailer: https://youtu.be/VxzyVeAG00w?si=ECYrhOXC82uBkG7sBG3 HBO show: https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/fantasy/baldurs-gate-tv-series-twist-newsupdate/>Wiki:https://bg3.wiki>FAQ:>Q: How often should I long rest?>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.>Polls:>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnYPrevious thread: >>559795853
>>559951593Putting the fag in durge fag
If you used barrels, you didn't beat the game
just don't use the barrels??>b-b-but the enemy still use themgood that's more interactive
This thread wins because its a Dragonborn and we know how the Pigschizo feels about those.
>>559951854I used barrels to beat ansur & myrkul in honor mode and I still got the achievementcurious
I always use barrels to destroy Raphael's pillars.
>>559951898Don't summon him
I STILL LOVE HER
>>559952085>if you use summonsI always cast heroes feast on my summons
>Killing a creature will reward no experience if the player already resolved the encounter without fighting. For instance, if the player peacefully talks their way out of an encounter, they will gain the same experience as if they had killed the creatures. Killing them afterwards will not earn the player any more experience. This is to prevent the player from doubling-up on experience. wtf, this isn't true. sometimes you can double dip and sometimes fighting gives more xp and sometimes it gives less xp. i tested this a lot when I played on launch. Maybe it has been patched/fixed now but it was not the case before
Imagine spending all your time in /bgg/ but you can't beat the game without barrels
I view barrels as a coupon for one (1) free kill. I like to put them in a bag, throw an alchemist fire down, and then throw the bag onto the fire. I skip all the dragging and dropping of each barrel that way
froge
>>559952028He made the other thread and will seethe about this
>>559951898It "wins" because it is in everyone's best interest to avoid thread wars. The hijacking of the OP to advertise another game should still be reported. The issue is that those that enable this behavior outnumber those who care.
Gorion's Ward said:Minthara is canonically 150Minthara is canonically bisexualMinthara sucked 100 goblin cocksI collect barrels and throw them at every boss including MintharaI respect all women but MintharaIf you romance Minthara you are a horrible personIf you romance Astarion you are a great personI ascended AstarionI romanced ascended AstarionI play with lots of mods onI fucked Halsin and Shadowheart at the same time and loved itShadowheart is right not to use her birthnameGale was groomed by MystraI play sorcererI camp castWyll is a characterI sympathized with KethericI play male TavI love dragonborns, halflings, gnomes and dwarves
>>559951997I used barrels, the dead child glitch, trickery cleric item dupe glitch, infinite gold glitch, infinite action glitch in honor mode and I still got the achievementcurious
>Each recruitment rewards 30 xp. However, recruiting Lae'zel does not reward any experienceFrog bros...
>>559952585you beat the game
>>559952630That's right sister
>>559952585wtf base
>dark urge gets an inspiration for being a coomerbaaaaased af
>>559952585I don't know what half of these are. I miss the put merchant's items in a crate exploit. Fuck Swen for removing it.
>>559951997>I think it's ultimately not about bragging rights - and there would be few in BG3 because it's an easy game - but self-respect. It's about holding yourself accountable.
>>559952086you looked smelly btw
>>559953227barrels aren't glitches or mods, that quote doesn't work
>>559951407>xir starts falseflagging because he gets btfobum status? [x] cooked
Remember that kindness costs you nothing.
>>559953418not him but you're the biggest tard in the thread
>>559953418I'm him and I'm forced to concede, you're right, you've always been right
>nametranny dickridersohn onon nonONONOO
>altering the OP>again
>>559953517we got a dark urge
>>559953620I hate the namefag. I hate you.
Its hilarious to me that the troon is comparing legitimate gameplay mechanics to bugs, glitches, and third party cheat injections
https://youtu.be/IyWzHMFi4sE
>>559953725He modded Serana into loving him, hes the same
>>559953557>>559953606the duality of man...tharafag
>>559953725Barrels are an exploit
>>559953517I must rub my cock between her glistening breasts and lick up every drop of sweat off her tummy and legs.
>Barrels are an exploit
How do Wizards cope against Legendary Resistance without the metamagic to impose disadvantage that Sorcerers have?
>>559952085I didn't expect this to trigger him so much.
>>559954106Elemental Adept: Fire
anons if you put a barrel next to a boss that should initiate combat. item drops should cost an action in combat. being able to drop 200 explosives next to the nether brain actually is pretty stupid
>>559953893HOW
>>559954354Be mad at Larian for not programming that in
>>559954354this is a video game not an immersive sim, giving money to vendors to get cheaper items is stupid, so is sneaking right next to an enemy and not being spotted despite getting ready to cast your fireball, you fags are so boring I'm glad swen doesn't listen to you
>>559954390See >>559954354
>>559953386Dropping a few barrels from your "pouch of holding" would certainly count as cheating in all but name. It is taking a shortcut. It is refusing to tackle a challenge with honesty. It is acting like a toddler who presses a button to "win." Worse than a toddler even, because even a toddler would get bored of that "game" after the novelty wears off.
>>559954063>>559954161>>559954390>>559954631Why are you so mad? Barrels are a cheese, but that's fine. It's similar to a tutorial mode. Just use them and be happy. Stop raging at the thread.
>>559954631You're cheesing a game by abusing game mechanics, you're free to do so if you find it fun but claim that it's "normal gameplay" is ridiculous. It's cheesing the game, the very definition.
>>559954647>>559954708>>559954861>>559954715retard
>>559955001You're the only one who can't beat the game without cheese strats, my man
>>559955061>can't beat the game without cheese stratsThis is a retarded argument, he's obviously not using barrels because the game is hard but because it's fun.
>>559955061says who I beat the game plenty of times on honor mode without barrels play competitive games if you want to larp as someone good at video games>>559955224barrels are hilarious
>he's still seething that people use barrels and insists its cheating
>>559955224No, you can't beat the game without them. It's pretty obvious. You wouldn't be this pissed otherwise
>>559954715im not. I don't care if people use them, its their game
>>559955224>>559955273It genuinely is hilarious that we had an entire early access patch dedicated to revising how throwing works to encourage people to hurl barrels and he's arguing the devs didn't intend for you to do it.
hehe
>>559955334I'm literally the guy behind >>559955224>>559954861these posts. It's cheesing, abuse of game mechanics (intentional or not) and people find it fun. I don't care if people do it, I personally wouldn't.
>>559955421>he's arguing the devs didn't intend for you to do it.I didn't say you couldn't throw a barrel in combat. The way it's implemented now is bad game design
of all the companions, jaheira is the worst
>>559955421They are going to be in the new Divinity. Bless
>>559955421he's literally the no fun allowed meme like you're trapped in several places full of explosive barrels in act 1 alone they're begging you to use them
If Karlach looked like she did in early access, would she be just as popular as she was?
i beat the game
>>559955421>hurl barrelsThis was never the argument, what the fuck are you on about? It was about being able to place big explosive barrels next to people without them reacting/caring
>>559955668of course not, she had one of the preset tiefling faces, this is why it always felt weird to have people beg larian to make alfira a companion, there are tons of npcs that look like her in act 3, they would have to remodel her face
>>559955804>It was about being able to place big explosive barrels next to people without them reacting/caringso you're not allowed to use the resonant stone either I presume? it's literally a free action to double your damage, what about using mage hand to throw items that set the wet status?
Post your Honour Role achievement and Elden Ring achievements right NOW
Why doesn't Jaheira want a young buck satisfy her cougar pussy?
>>559955804The schizo can't argue without strawmanning. Larian needed to adjust enemy AI and dropping items should require an action. Hopefully their next game is better in that department
>>559955804>>559956182
>>559955820>beg larian to make alfira a companion,Her personality, class, general look are enough. If she were a companion they would have given her a unique face.
>>559956268
>>559955962>so you're not allowed to use the resonant stone either I presume?Placing it down next to a person before combat without them reacting or moving away from it? No. During combat? Sure.>what about using mage hand to throw items that set the wet status?If you throw water at enemies outside of combat that should start combat or dialogue
>>559956047barrels are valid, there are no right ways to finish bg3>>559956274fair
>>559956408wtf based. I expected the guy arguing against barrels to post his
>>559955421That's not even the cheating we're talking about. Throwing an item uses your Action. Dropping an item and moving it is a free action. The two are not comparable, because one has a cost and the other does not. Are you still following? In the scenario that the cheater outlined (>>559947771), "[dropping] a handful of barrels from your pouch of holding," like a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat, the mechanical outcome is clearly not "intended." Because you are dishonest, you will continue to waste time and change the parameters of that scenario, in which a willingness to cheat was clearly established. Those that are dishonest in gameplay are dishonest in rhetoric. An expected pattern.
Why does the Idol of Silvanus still buff someone that stole it from Druids? Surely the aura would be deactivated
>>559956702Post your bg3 achievements now
Swen is just engagement baiting with us so that we continue to build up hype for Divinity. If this general dies then nobody will talk about Divinity.
>>559956689I'm not even the only one arguing against the game design for barrels>>559956702^ This guy is too
I want the Ring of Protection
>>559956702post the last time you played bg3
>>559956918>you didn't beat the game if you played as an undeadcalling it now
Honestly the tiefling children should be put to the sword for being granted refuge and then stealing from their patrons.
>>559957590>can literally make trees,fruits & vegetables grow in 5 seconds>muh refugees are stealing from us :'(Kagha should have been a companion just so tav could smack some sense into her
>>559957710bait
>>559957590Hello Kagha
maybe that other guy's right we unironically are more active when we got divinity in the op
>>559956351>I totally didn't hide the other (You)
>>559950683It's always funny when someone is confidently wrong and even goes as far as to accuse someone else of not playing the game when they say something that reveals they don't play the game they're accusing someone else of not playing. It's very funny.Your mistake is that rummaging through a bag of holding in combat is an action. You cannot drop items out of an inventory in combat without spending an action. Dropping an item you are already holding is a free action, but if you have to look down or use a hand to rummage, it becomes an action. So you are completely wrong about this, bg3's ability to open the inventory and look around in it until you find your barrel stack and then start dropping them into the world is actually completely against the rules, if you want to start talking about actually playing the real game, which you did. Don't bring up playing the real game if you're wrong about how to play the real game.On top of this, if we wanted to start talking about actually playing the real game, no opponent would stand there and let you stack things near them or throw things near them. Placing an explosive barrel anywhere within earshot or eyesight would instantly start combat with any human GM at the table. Using barrelmancy is contrary to any form of realism. Realism being what a real gm would allow you to do, not realism as in what is realistic in real life, obviously, since none of this is "realistic".I've always said that people should have fun playing the game however they want, and if that includes things that a GM would tell you not to do, then go ahead. It's your game. But I've also always said that I've personally had more fun with the game when I was following certain rules of what makes sense, and as a piece of advice for a nice gameplay experience, barrelmancy simply makes the game too easy, and does it in a way that feels cheesy, and also does break dnd5e rules if you care about that.
I hated how Larian butchered Kagha, she was morally in the right but they had to make her comically evil with her unnecessarily cruel punishment of a child and the shadow druid shit. They only did it hammer home the point that the refugees dindu nuffin and treating them poorly is evil. Larian does the same thing again in act 3 with the squatters.
>>559957779lol
>>559958451>morallywrong
>>559956702okay but you are arguing that swen didn't intend for you to be able to do this when he pretty clearly did>>559958405hey you put your namefag back on! lmfao retard
>>559958451>she was morally in the right>why did halsin let these people in? if they don't fuck off soon we're genociding all of them including the childreneven kagha realized that she's wrongfun fact: wyll & laezel's writer wrote kagha
>>559958510>You must risk your lives for foreigners in a battle you're guaranteed to lose than to perform a ritual that will ensure your survival Kagha did the morally correct thing for her people.
>>559957128Speaking of the ring. If I reveal the shadow druid shit but don't talk to Zevlor, can I then signal Minthara and have them kill the grove before the tieflings leave? I want the ring but I also want the EXP from killing off the Goblin Camp (sans Minthara and co.) as well as the tieflings and druids.
chuds have no media literacy holy shit
>>559958405
>>559958657>morallywrong
>>559958451Yes murdering children makes you morally right. If Kagha were ugly would you still like her?
>druids, the people who value nature and life itself, should have let those innocents diejust say you dont like the tieflings but dont pretend youre doing good by advocating for the slaughter of anyone no matter your JUSTIFICATION (which only guilty people need by the way)
>>559958657>guaranteed to loseThis is a joke, right? I'm being baited.
I think the dumbest thing is if Kagha murdered Arabella she shows up to the Tiefling party. Like why would you go there?
>>559959098maybe she felt bad about it
>>559958723A-anyone?
>>559958405Thanks for validating my opinion, me. I fear that the shitposter is too stupid to see the truth in your (my) words, however. There is no Bag ("pouch") of Holding in BG3, but that won't stop it from claiming it was an intentional turn of phrase, and that a mechanic that is neither supported in tabletop nor present in BG3 is actually "intended."
>>559958616>why did halsin let these people in?Halsin didn't know about the threat at the time, that's literally why he leaves to investigate. But even if he knew and still made the same decision then he would have been in the wrong. Kagha is in charge of the Grove, not Halsin, so his opinion doesn't matter.>if they don't fuck off soon we're genociding all of them including the children????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Are you fucking retarded? That's literally not what happened. Kagha was performing a ritual that would shield the Grove and the druids but not the Tieflings, this meant that the Tieflings would have to leave the Grove or die during the ritual. If she did not perform the ritual then they would have to fight the goblin raiding party, which was a powerful force they could not hope to win against, which puts the grove, their faith/religion and her people's life at risk for the sake of foreigners. Only an insane person would take the fight rather than perform the ritual.
>>559959212>Are you fucking retarded? That's literally not what happened.>''If they do not decide to leave soon, the viper must strike.''
>>559959146No she was smugly drinking wine and telling Arabella's parents off. Kagha IQ I guess.
>Kagha is in chargeOh, so I am being baited. I didn't know Kagha was Archdruid of the Emerald Grove.
DURGE + SHADOWHEART>DURGE + SHADOWHEARTDURGE + SHADOWHEART>DURGE + SHADOWHEARTDURGE + SHADOWHEART>DURGE + SHADOWHEARTDURGE + SHADOWHEART>DURGE + SHADOWHEART
>>559959303yeah man how could you not knowthats why as soon as halsin returns kagha gets BTFOd because she was in charge the whole time and only listened to halsins orders because shes just that magnanimous
They should make Kagha a evil Shadow Druid in bg4
>>559955751When the game was in open alpha, I didn't even know you could talk to manthara. I always just assumed you had to stealth into the camp and then kill off all the goblins.
>>559959196L*e'zel is such a retard.
>>559959196did he ever reply to you lol
>>559959064>>559959303Are you trolling? She was put in charge while Halsin was away, literally not a single druid (even those that disagree with her) question this.>This is a joke, right? No? That's literally what all the druids and tieflings agree on. There's a reason the Grove and all the tieflings die if you don't help out. You and your party is literally the only reason the Grove stands.Like seriously, you must be trolling right? The game literally states that Kagha is in charge and if you move on to act 2 without helping the Grove everyone dies to the goblin. These are literally objective facts stated in the game.
>>559959146She does feel bad about it, partly because Kagha doesn't murder Arabella. Kagha's sentence is that Arabella be held for one day to make sure she doesn't disrupt the ritual a second time and then be released to her parents when they all leave the next day. Arabella only dies if you intervene into the scene and manipulate Arabella or Teela into doing something that leads to Arabella's death. What Kagha does has become Mandella Affect'ed by the playerbase. She never murders Arabella, and never orders anything that would physically harm her. The player has to make it happen.>>559959196In fairness, barrels are placed all over the place and Swen's own gameplay footage early in development when he was showing the game had him blowing up barrels, so blowing people up has always been "intended" in that sense. But if someone claims that dropping stuff out of your inventory is "how the game is played" then I will correct them. Barrelmancy is a silly, unrealistic thing that breaks dnd rules that only exists because Swen personally finds it fun and hilarious. It's there if you want it, but do not start saying that's how dnd is. That's how Swen's videogame loosely based on dnd is. Very big difference.
>>559959579Do I ever reply to myself? Yes, occasionally.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/555887401/#555941816https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/555887401/#555958264
>>559959708why are you replying to your split personality???
>more retardationNope, not falling for it. Enjoy your imaginary world where vice presidents rule the country.
>>559959265I don't remember exactly what you're referring to but is it the scene where she threatens Arabella with her snake? If so I already addressed it in the original post>but they had to make her comically evil with her unnecessarily cruel punishment of a child
>>559959708don't talk to me piggy if I wanted to read fanfics I'd hop on Ao3>>559959725now post his valentine's day melty
>>559959779>Just pretending to be retarded I accept your concession.
>>559959804>I don't remember exactly what you're referring to but is it the scene where she threatens Arabella with her snake?nah it's right after that scene when you ask her what's going on and tell her that zevlor & his people want to go but the goblins are spooking them
I wish Todd didn't spend years making Saarfield. He could have made TES6 and make Seranatranny return to his original home. /bgg/ could have been spared
>>559958723>actual game question>ignored in favour of schizopostingNice general, guys. Real quality posters you have here.
>>559959946shartfield was so fucking bad it made people believe that you can't make sci fi rpgs anymore, we need swen to show todd how it's done now that bg3 became goty & revived CRPGs>>559959965we're waiting for divinity to get some pep in our step
>>559959965I don't know the answer to his question so I can't comment. >>559959725Man you must have creamed yourself
>>559958810It is 100% the moral duty of a leader to protect their people and home over foreigners. Why would you ever risk your people's lives in a hopeless battle (everyone in the Grove dies if the player doesn't help them) when you can guarantee their safety with the ritual? You don't owe the tieflings (foreigners) your lives. Why would you think so? Only an absolutely demented person would force their own people into a guaranteed slaughter just for the small chance of being able to save foreigners.
>>559959804In what world does holding Arabella for a day - a lesson that might one day save her life - count as "unnecessarily cruel punishment"? The world she lives in is not always so lenient on thieves, let alone tieflings.>>559958723You are not owed an answer when your intent is to metagame in order to maximize experience gain. What kind of soulless question is that?
>>559959934I don't remember that but sounds like an empty threat for no real reason. The Rite of Thorns would've just automatically killed all the tieflings if they stayed anyways. So that just falls under my original criticism >but they had to make her comically evil [for no reason]
>>559960485>In what world does holding Arabella for a dayNo that part is valid, the druids are within their rights to imprison a thief>count as "unnecessarily cruel punishment"?I'm referring to the snake/viper. She literally has a big snake constantly pretending to lunge at her and tormenting her. This isn't how you treat an adult prisoner let alone a child. They should have locked her in a cell, not tormented her.
Hello, sweetness. You going to give me one of those precious peepers?
Arabella in bg4 will get her revenge on Chudga
>>559958723If you kill Mol then you should always get the ring in my opinion, so even though she technically doesn't drop it I would just add the item with a mod/cheat engine. If she has the ring on her person and can give it to you then you should be able to kill her and claim from a roleplaying perspective, I'm sure a DM would agree.
>To reject the helpless is to reject Silvanus himself.How can the druids even perform the rite of thorns? Shouldn't it automatically fail considering the consequences of finishing it?
>MUUH REALISMMMMMMMMM OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTrannies are so low IQ they cant comprehend gameplay abstractions
>>559961514What's going on here? Shadowheart laughing at Tav's micropenis? Stop posting NTR.
>>559960829The snake is only meant to scare Arabella - enough that she won't be likely to repeat such a stupid mistake anytime soon, because second chances are going to be rare for someone like her. I wouldn't call it unnecessarily cruel or even harsh by the standards of the dangerous world she lives in. Fun fact - showing understanding for Kagha's actions is one of the rare moments that earn you both Lae'zel's and Shadowheart's approval.
>>559962436I disagree, psychological torture of a child trying to steal a statue to save her people is unnecessarily cruel. Just lock her up. But if that was the only thing Kagha did then it would have been fine, the forced shadow druid shit to cement her as evil was just libtard writing. They couldn't allow her to be morally right.
>OPEN THE BLOODY GATESour response?
>>559962727>morally rightlol
>>559963680I have already btfod multiple times, you need to chill with the seethe
>>559963291Help Kanon open the gate instead of standing there watching him struggle to do it by himself until he gets shot to death by goblin archers
bg3 but you can SWIM
my used Shadowheart panties collection
very large crests
>>559965167wrong thread sweetie this is the larian general
Wyll is blander than chicken breast on white toast with a hero complex. The most interesting bit about him is Mizora and she's a walking stereotype.
>>559962727I can see where you're coming from, but I think this does a disservice to the writing. Kagha is not portrayed as "comically evil," because that would make her flat and uninteresting, and she is anything but. Rather, she is someone who has good intentions but is also fallible and is on the verge of being corrupted. She has a sensible, even noble, goal of protecting her people, yet that path would also mean throwing innocent refugees to the wolves. This moral dilemma reminds me of the Culling of Stratholme situation in Warcraft 3. Arthas is not evil - not yet - when he makes the horrific decision to cull his own people before they turn into the undead. Inaction would have risked the plague spreading and many more innocent lives being lost. A good man or woman being forced to make an impossible choice is tragic, not evil. Children crave moral certainty - this side is the good guys, that side is the bad guys - but the grove situation refuses this binary. The tiefling refugees do not deserve to be slaughtered. Kagha did nothing wrong. These two statements can be true at the same time.
>>559960485translation: i will do literally anything except talk about the actual game while shitting my diaper because someone is doing something i dont like in bg3
>>559966912>innocent refugees
Minthara.
>>559962436This is so fucking retarded. Kagha forcibly takes a child from her parents, bars her parents from speaking with her with the use of armed guards and threats of physical violence, and resolves to imprison the child for an indefinite amount of time. Not only does the punishment not fit the crime, she totally fails to use the moment to teach something, and exacerbates instead of diffuses an already tense situation. If that weren’t bad enough, she threatens the child with a venomous snake and implies murder if the child refuses to obey>showing that you “understand” Kagha wins the approval of a nihilistic death cultist and a warrior whose society ritually culls the weak including children Bravo
Second playthrough finished, doing an heroic dark urge actually made me cry
The Expansion would have featured more explicit and voice acted sex scenes with Mizora.
>>559970782me telling the g*th to take a long walk off a short pier
Nettie, my beloved
>>559972709based
>>559971447>Larian officially canceled these plans to pivot to new projects. Director Swen Vincke confirmed at GDC 2024 that the team lacked passion for the project and wanted to move away from the D&D 5th Edition ruleset.Literally we didn't get the BG3 Expansion or a sequel because 5e sucks so much ass that they had no motivation to continue working on it
>>559975536i mean the levels of fun between 5e and their DOS homebrew is just astronomical
>>559975692If only WOTC werent niggers and let them use something like advanced dnd or as much homebrew as they like instead instead
>>559972709fat
>>559961068She'll forgive her and they have make up sex.
>>559958451Kagha did nothing wrong. All those tieflings deserved to die and i will always be happy to assist her in that.
>>559970068I don't believe the framing of implied threat of murder is intellectually honest here. Compare what Kagha says ("And keep still, devil. Teela is restless.") with what Arabella's mother says when her daughter returns to her safe and sound ("You ever scare me like that again, and I'll feed you to a gnoll."). Komira's line is actually more of an explicit threat - only one that expresses anger born of worry, and is therefore universally understood as not serious. Kagha doesn't actually want to kill Arabella. There is no benefit in that for her. Her shocked reaction, if that happens, is genuine. As for Lae'zel and Shadowheart both approving of not painting Kagha as a monster, the point is not so much that they are the best moral judges, but that they understand that the world they live in isn't automatically kind to children. Scaring a kid straight for their own good is defensible. Gale's idea that youth is a time to be forgiven for one's transgressions is more idealistic than realistic. Moral outrage is easy. It reduces people to victims and villains - but the world is often not that simple.
>>559983125Ah yes, you're right, I should implicitly threaten the next ten year old who slights me with my highly venemous pet snake and let it coil around her to scare her into not going against me, then act surprised when she gets bitten and diesThen instead of fessing up to it I should cope about how ackshually its her faultYou're making an argument for Kagha being so retarded and irresponsible that there is no difference between that and her being evil.
Tunnel Druids RuleWe're the Tunnel Druids, That's Us and We Rule
>"Awwww, was that Gale's granddad?" - Karlach after meeting ElminsterI love this fucking retard
>>559983330Don't use the r-word here. It's not acceptable. There is a meaningful difference between recklessly endangering someone and being evil, and it lies in intent. The law distinguishes murder, which requires malice aforethought, from involuntary manslaughter for a reason, and the two are far from equal. In modern terms, Kagha could reasonably be charged with child endangerment, but she could not be sentenced as if she were a child murderer. Because there was never any intent to harm Arabella. A player character is not evil every time they choose the [Intimidation] option to make someone back off, even if there is a threat of violence. In fact, choosing such an option would often be good-aligned if that results in avoiding bloodshed.
>>559986649I like how she knows Jaheira and Minsc and idolizes them because they're local legends where she grew up, but then doesn't know Elminster. That just goes a bit too high over her head.
>>559975692the game would be 10x better if they removed most of the retarded homebrew and broken items Larian created
>>559993172retard
>>559958405I find most of your rants about Shart to be annoying, but you're completely right about this. Only a retard would disagree
>>559993825t. a retarded nigger >unlimited 21str potions costing nothing and lasting entire day>wet status condition giving lightning vulnerability>tavern brawler giving strength mod in damage on throws and unarmed strikes>thief giving an extra bonus action is insane, fighter action surge giving a full action to even spellcasters >Swords Bard doing ranged attack flourishes>arcane acuity>non caster classes being able to use all scrollsevery broken meta build in BG3 has something to do with Larian's homebrew
>>559994423there's nothing wrong with a game having broken builds, every single feat should be as broken as tavern brawler, thief is literally the only reason people play rogue aside of flavor, dnd combat is a snoozefest you should thank larian for trying to make it interestingthank you larian for saving dnd
>>559994423You forgot >weapon/armor/shield proficiency are given to certain races>unlimited drop actions from your bag>you can switch cleric/wizard/druid spells on the fly instead of after a long rest>multiclassing has no stat requirements>material components are ignored>wizard transcribing doesn't take any time at allEtc, etc, etc
>>559994564>there's nothing wrong with a game having broken buildsthanks for confirming your mental retardation, dumping STR, barrelmancy or 1shotting bosses on highest difficulty cause of retarded items or class synergies does not lead to fun its stupid and makes game into a joke, thief being useless is another problem created by Larian, u never need them in that game to disarm traps or open chests
We love larian jank
>>559986697retard
I just don't think the hair fits the vibe I'm going for.
>>559961743In that context the "helpless" are the druids themselves. The ritual is an invocation from Silvanus' own to protect them from outside threats. As Kagha said it creates a sanctuary. Given that it requires constant chanting from 5-6 druids around his idol it's a serious ritual that's probably only performed as last resort. Remember that they didn't turn away the Tieflings in the hour of need and they were only allowed to dwell there temporarily. The resources of the Grove won't last forever and now there's a bigger threat on their doorstep, so at one point the druids have to start prioritizing their own survival over others.>>559970386Was it that much of a waste of time?>>560002003Me neither. His face is strong enough to rock some short hairstyle that emphasizes his face tattoos and eye color.
>>560002003why wrinkly
>>560002605Those are vanilla scars. Probably doesn't work well with the modded face.
Best builds for a 2-man gank squad in multiplayer? I need to establish dominance in the playthrough before things get out of hand.
>>560004021Skirbie makes such great gear mods.
>>560004021are you gay?
>>560005316Bara is based
>>560005839Gross
>>559986697This is not your kingdom, retard.
>>559961743The Rite of Thorns is shadow druid stuff and most circles have banned it because those who use it usually degenerate into infighting and murder each other in isolation, it's even harmful to the users. If you play a druid you remember the reasons it's been banned after finding out what Kagha is trying to do. Ketheric found out about this too and is actively pushing shadow druids to spread the rite to isolate and eliminate druid circles in the region, with plans to tadpole the leaders later.
>>560006284Indeed. It's mine.
Kill Halsin, make Kagha the Archdruid
If Halsin was in charge of the Grove then everyone would be dead if the player didn't show up
Kagha kinda cute, she just needs a strong and charismatic bard to bring out her inner beauty.
>>560007753If the player didn't show up everyone in the grove is dead anyway. The correct choice in that situation unless you want to get killed or grow tentacles would be to flee the region.
>>560008106>If the player didn't show up everyone in the grove is dead anywayWhy does that even happen anyways? Why wouldn't the druids complete the ritual?
>>560008272They can complete the ritual but all the shadow druid leaders will be infected, this would eventually include Kagha. The shadow druids are already compromised by the cult, Olodan's boss says in letter to Kagha that he's going from Cloakwood to Baldur's Gate where he'll probably get a tadpole from some handsome young man.>Druids, by their very nature - do not smile, Yanthus - value the balance of natural forces over the welfare of humanity in general, and in the extreme this is expressed by the faction historically known as the Shadow Druids, who favour complete separation of the circles from what they regard as the ills of civilisation.>We shall identify the current leaders of the Shadow Druids, cultivate them with gifts while intimidating them with threats, and encourage them to see that the wisest and most prudent course is for the druid circles to stand neutral as the army of the Absolute marches on the blighted cities of the civilised.>Disciple Z'rell shall select an appropriate agent to parley with the Shadow Druid leaders. Eventually, all shall be infected with tadpoles.
>>559993172which WOTC approved of since systems and mechanics are strictly their jurisdiction so send your complaints there
>>559994360doesn't make what he says about shart less true tho huh
>>560008981I wish grappling mechanics were included instead of supercharging tavern brawler
Berserker barbarian with tavern brawler my love
All female frogs need brat correction
especially that one, her bratty uppity attitude will be gone once a daily dose of my cock has been administered
Shadowcake.
I have 3 wives; Shadowheart, Lae'zel and Karlach. They used to get very jealous of each other in the beginning but with time have learnt to enjoy sharing my cock.
>>560010306based
I have a crippling Swords Bard addiction.
>>560011263Hand Crossbows with Sharpshooter and lil thief and action surge with that?
>>560011458Yeehaw
Divinity will bg3 cinematics Think about it
Sebille reading Lohse's memories
Don't care for the cinematics desu, rather have worse cinematic/fidelity/lower budget if we got more games from Larian
Coming home to my wives, Sebille and Lohse, and hugging them both.
do you guys give lae'zel a bow or a crossbow?
>>560012354I'd give her a bar of soap, not that she'd ever use it
>>560012354I'm the one that normally shoots at Lae'zel
>>560012354i give her my fat cock
BG3 without cinematicsthink about it
Released 2 years earlier which means Divinity would also come out 2 years earlier
>>560012878https://youtu.be/AiQo8pDw9y4
>>560012354Early act 1 is a comfy povertymode adventure, the light crossbows from the nautiloid must carry the party until you get the big upgrades from zhents.
>>560012986but we'd never have moments like this...
>>560013115did you know you get a free heavy crossbow if you make aradin and co leave
>>560013202You should be banned for posting this
https://youtu.be/GIou_r2uX8c?si=aHAglZKu-FgJs5rUman see? it wasn't that HARD now was it? I love larian but my GOD we needed a definitive edition to polish act 3, like it's full of missed opportunities, weird plotlines that lead to nowhere, just look at poor wyll, literally the last thing to happen in his quest is that mizora promises that she's still plotting something
>>560013202based
>>560013464shadowheart's ''no'' was so cute
>>560013202Same energy.
>>560013464sad frog
>>560013286Yeah, but he stays if you resolve the confrontation with Zevlor via intimidation option.
>>560014327I always resolve that by punching Zevlor
>>560012354I tend to give her a crossbow since that’s what Githyanki archers all seem to carry.
Canonically shadowheart has the biggest tits
>>560014732no way she definitely gives off the energy of having decent tits but not huge, karlach or mizora would have big breasts
biggest mommy milkers are actually minthara
>>560015435>karlachBig, tall and masculine women tend not to have big boobs.>mizoraShe's a devil so it doesn't count, she can probably change the size at will
>>560015731Devil blood gives you big naturals.
>>560015731>Big, tall and masculine women tend not to have big boobs.>Big [...] women tend not to have big boobs.
>>560015731Have you SEEN Karlach? Girl’s definitely got the biggest bust.
>>560015893I don't even know what you're trying to say/imply with this post to be h
>>560016261Literally all women have identical tits
>>560015621thats a man
>>560016443I think boob physics are more important than cup slider when it comes to improvements in the next game. Karlach has the biggest ass though, some outfits compress it so much her tail detaches
>>560016443anons are retarded and horny
>>560017001...do tiefling tails grow back like a lizard?
>>560017394In this case they just float after them, an inch or two from their lower back.
>>560014732she also has pussy hair so lets not act like it's all positive with her
>>560017619that's literally her best feature thougheverbeit
>>560017619>>>/s/22383797a lil bit of tasteful hair is very hot tho
>>560017619It’s just a bit of fuzz. Not like she’s got a jungle down there.
I want to suck on Karlach's red nipples
looks like it's faggots who want manly women to launder their gayness hours
>>560017787This. Bush is the better pussy option except for tiefs who have their unique skin ridges removed if you pick the bush option.
>>560017001divinity be like:
>>560018318>tfw still haven't found this mod
>>560018175But no one mentioned Minthara.
>>560018318They better swing though.
Why didn't Larian have dedicated relationship roles? One has to be the sub and the other the dom.
>>559949946>It's akin to entering a cheat code, only with extra steps. [...] players are willing to go to such lengths to justify their cheatingis bringing your friends along instead of being a lonely adventurer considered "cheating"?very weird , gatekeeping a single player game just because it breaks your repetition compulsion pattern recognition habits
>>560018558Yeah, real men literally can't get hard until the question of the top and bottom have been resolved.
>>560018619The "Swine" made prettier elves than your boyfriend
>>560018318>>560018387sameI need sauce NAO
>add a shit ton of feats >only a handful are useful and most of the time you'll only pick +2Such fucking lame and gay game design, DOS2/Pathfinder handled feats/talents way better where they didn't compete with stat increases
>>560018836dnd 2024 buffed a lot of feats like GWM and Savage Attacker by adding stat increases to them.
Game became better when i killed Karlach, no shitty teenage drama and removed by far the worst companion quest in game. You also get good early game armor for Warlock.
>>560018318I'm a degen coomer but I would never even consider adding shit like this to my game
>>560018836dnd 5E doesn't want complicated or strong feats to not overwhelm new players, they want combat & character building to be as streamlined as possible this is why swen thinks that it's not a good system for video games
>>560018969Just have a baby and full mode toggle, just like Explorer disables multiclassing so could it disable extra feat/complex mechanics
>>560018969The problem with Swen's approach is that there's the nobrainers and there's the 500 useless feats no one ever takes.
>>560019070I remember explorer mode was too hard for some people
>>560018318Hand over the sauce and no one gets hurt
>>560019280It was in DOS2 so Larian added story mode
>>560019314Why does she look so much like Jen here? Is it edited?
>>560018758t-thank you>>560018836I'll never be a fan of anything related to Pathfinder levelling/skills/combat: it's so incredibly unfun. I get how people who loved Diablo and RTWP might find character builds and fight mechanics enjoyable, but every fight is a prebuff fest and there's like 2000 useless low level mob encounters "just for flavor", and I'm no Guy Fieri5e had great limitations, and WotC tried to fix some of them with 5.5e: Swen and Larian have always been very open about these limiting factors while developing the game, too.there's some mods that alter the ruleset, you can have your own homebrewed, tailored Bg3 experience. Pepole in /crpgg/ would love to discuss this
Has Jennifer English ever had LESBIAN sex while cosplaying as Shadowheart?
>>560019769Who knows, her GF voiced a white haired vampire girl in Total War Warhammer.
>>560019769shut the fuck up
You know, when you think about it, we're all each other's companions and we're all adventuring together.
>>560019769Yes. She has been face to face with another woman's anus.
>>560019998why won't anyone romance me?
>>560020097mintharafag gets all the ladies>I run my own business, I’m health conscious, and I’m kind to women. Trust me, I’ve had my fair share of lovers and probably some of your share too. And not one would ever think so little of me that they openly dream about another person for an extended time. Not one would ever ask me to have sex with that person to satisfy their own selfish fantasy. Shadowheart betrays a player that has risked their life for her, and she does it for Halsin. That’s canon and the player has no choice about it.
>>560020097Did you toggle the looking for a partner flag to let other people see your aura?
>>560014732>>560015435Nettie has the biggest
Mizora is Sex
If you were a resident of Baldur's Gate, which deity would you worship?
>>560020625Wrong. Roah Moonglow is bigger.
>>560020167NTA but nothing there is outlandish, and it's really revealing to see certain people here act like it is. Being a successful entrepreneur who knows how to treat women is looked upon the same way as someone claiming to be a wizard, and there's a lot of self-reporting in that.
>>560020638Mizora was Lohse this whole time.
>>560020167>believing anything an anonymous schizo saysstop glazing yourself namefag
>>560020948
>>560020764>which deity would you worship?Shadowheart's pussy.
>>560020764Let me supplement your question with this one.>>560012354Crossbow fits her better but whatever I have. Later on I prefer to give her one of the special Hand Crossbows. I damn sure won't waste Actions on her for ranged attacks but a Bonus Action is okay.
"Is doubling your party size considered cheating?" the stupid swine asked. It takes refuge in crass stupidity.
I take a walk every day, I manage two small businesses, I run games at my local tabletop game store multiple times a week, and I cook for myself and do regular yardwork and all the usual homeowner stuff as well. You can do whatever you want with proper time management. Lots of people just unknowingly waste lots of time throughout the day, often in the form of commuting in a car or waiting, or on the cell phone.What do you think?
>>560020764Mielikki, because Im Finnish and i dont feel like worshipping Loviatar
>romanced Shadowheart 3 times and I have never, not once, seen this alleged scene of betrayal. Sounds like you guys just play in a way that triggers adultery flags.
>>560021131Eilistraee is baelistraee
They'll never get over losing the argument.
>>560021246There's nothing weird in accepting Halsin's sudden proposal to dick you and then telling about it to your partner.
>>560020764Selune, I like the moon :3
>>560021246I should also mention that I've never seen the Mizora sex scene either.>look it up, you need to keep Wyll in the pactThat explains why, I enjoy fucking Mizora over too much to not break Wyll's pact.
>>560021246Be patient with the repressed homosexual who fantasizes about being cucked by a giant bear man daily.
Anyone else notice how some of the Lae'zel voice lines done in a different, smoother voice? Like they were recorded early on before the actress quite worked out how to act her. Or maybe it's just sloppy work.
>>560021237holy cringe
>>560020948Is she a good romance option? I romanced Sebille and it wasn't terrible.
>>560021246they're obsessed with halsin because his muscles awakened something within them
I want to mod Nette into my game however I have already played Land, Spore and Star drood pretty far. Sighhh
>>560022271Bears have always been the symbol of masculinity and musculous might.
>>560023241>dragonlachi will now consider romancing her
>>560023241>no dragon boobsWhat's the point?
Wyll.
>>560023670
>>560023856I invented this back on /v/
I love Hold Person soooo much, it's such a helpful spell when the Dark Urge makes itself known.
Take the Wyllpill
I sacrifice Wyll forAlfiraNettieNereKorillaGeraldusFlorrick Gribbo Mizora
Alfira and Lakrissa but not dykes and have sex with me
You think Jaheira ever thought of banging him?
>>560020764Shar. She's the coolest and she can "plagiarize" the souls of her enemies.>When Sharran Shadowheart kills her parents, it is revealed that Shar's curse has plagiarized the souls of the Hallowleaf couple.>Dear Mintharafag, there is no language barrier
>>560025389>When Sharran Shadowheart kills her parents, it is revealed that Shar's curse has plagiarized the souls of the Hallowleaf couple.What does this actually mean? I've seen this said a couple of times here and it must be an old board meme.
>>560025608It's a forced meme by an anon trying to get himself over as a thread personality. One day he'll be the only one here and he'll still be trying to appeal to a crowd that dispersed long ago.
Why would Gale go from goddess pussy to mortal pussy?
>>560025881Goddesses barely put out.
>>560025608He's the resident schizo
>>560025881Because goddess pussy dumped him for being a dumbass.
>>560025608we call him the swineschizo
Gotta take Shadowheart to the astral plane to stop her aging before she hits the wall, she's very close to do so
>>560026304Well she goes to the astral plane when Jen and Dev play coop.
>>560026304
>>560026383>choosing the threesome harem ending for meBased, they know how to please me
>>560026304She’s a half-elf. You got a good two to three decades before she hits the wall. She’ll still be looking young when you’re getting wrinkled and grey.
>>560026628its probably the namefag seething over shart again
>>560026628I play as a male elf
>>560025881Mystra doesn't love him and fucks other young wizardcels.
>>560026612You'll become a squid Orpheus.
>>560025383No but I will
>>560026779Oh. Well then, you get to live on for centuries after she’s turned to dust. You poor bastard.
>>560026908See >>560026779
>>560027094Which part of >Gotta take Shadowheart to the astral plane to stop her agingdid you not get?
Mystra is really interested in Arabella...
>>560027307Only Lae'zel and Orpheus can do that, sorry to say.
>>560027482And you, if you romance the frog! Yay, immortality.
>>560025608It doesn't mean anything. It is semantically gibberish. The humor comes from the fact that the swine that is responsible for that unintelligible line later claimed there was "no language barrier." You can't hide genuine stupidity behind a thesaurus.>>560025801A meme is, by definition, something that spreads through recognition and replication. This is closer to an inside joke. Also, I don't need a "thread personality," since I'm already Mintharafag, Untitledanon, that one faggot that created ugly Tavs, "the" resident schizo, and whoever else fits the narrative of the moment.
>>560027595Yes, but you can't bring Shadowheart along unless you play as her.
>only my ugly frogs can go to the AstralPlane Shift is a spell that exists, dumbass.
>>560027665Based Shadow’zel
You know that scene where Shadowheart holds a knife to Laezels throat in the night? I haven't seen that scene in like a year.
>>560027071He's a cute boy from the Dalelands, quite charming.
>>560027617I can only assume you dwell here because no one in reality would tolerate your insufferable ass.
>>560027482Says who? But fine, we can have a threesome harem; Shadowheart, Lae'zel and I.
>>560027813i see that scene in every playthrough i doi then let her kill laezel so she wont turn on me later when i let the emperor kill orpheus
>>560027617cute frog
>>560027617he plays with a controller because his hands are fat
>>560027617Cute elf
>>560027813>>560027959
>>560028029Not him but what's wrong with playing with controller?
>>560027813i kill shart every time
Imagine how much wetness the frog would leak out all over her legs and over the battlefield if she didn't wear any panties.
>>560027617Merely an imposter
>>560028267you mean blood from getting gutted because shes so useless and weak that she got captured in a wooden cage by two thieflings?and yes i said thieflings
>>560028165fat
>>560028037>shart>attractive to anyone but cuck fetishistsI see you
>>560028426>5' 11" and 150lbThank you for the compliment, I used to be 120lb and I'm finally getting my life back on track enough to the point that I'm gaining weight again.What is wrong with controller play though?
>>560027724Ín this game you can't go to the Astral with it.
>>560028417>thieflingsDid Owlcat coin this term or Paizo/Pathfinder? Or did it exist as a term in the community before that?>that she got captured in a wooden cage by two thieflings?Well it was right after passing out after the nautiloid crashed, she was in an extreme weakened state
>>560028671Plane Shift isn't in the game, Larian only allows us to get to 6th level spells. Whether or not it's in the game means nothing though, being locked to level 12 is just a balancing decision. Once the main campaign ends your characters can do literally anything, including what anon said which means he can take Shadowheart or any other character to the Astral Plane so long as he has enough wizard levels.
How much xp would defeating a netherbrain grant?
>>560029086at least 3 xp
>>560028118post laezel with her throat slit
>arch wizard>chosen of mystra>level 1hmmmmmmm
>>560029414play the game retard the orb is consuming his talents
>>560029414The orb consoomed his powers
>>560029472>>560029486>so weak that he let a ball suck away all his wizard levelslollmao even
>>560029369what the actual fuck is wrong with you
>>560029472Plus that tadpole knocks everyone down to level 1 for some reason, so he got a double whammy of nerfs.
>>560029369No
>>560029590We post dead characters here all the time. Why is Laezel exempt?
>>560029891You shouldn't post any dead characters
>>560030041Based and anti-guro pilled
>>560029891We love our frog.
Dom lae'zel during the first the sex scene but always lose the fight against her in act 2
>>560018917>>560030041
Which companion should you force to endure Lovi's BDSM? Shadowheart seems like the appropriate companion but I'm open to suggestions.
>>560030104cute frog
>>560030347I'll always do it myself since it's a buff
>>560030065based>>560030104gross
CUTE frog
>>560030417based and frogpilled>>560030553cringe and edgepilled
>>560030525Pretty useless buff though, only activates if you're below 30%. You're fucking up real bad if you're that low
>>560029414Karlach is said to have punched demons to death and Shart infiltrated Tunarath and fought her way out. Wyll mentions losing the ability to summon hellhounds which is a high level spell. Everyone was mid to high level before the game, they all got reset by the tadpoles.The only exception is Lazy, who is a fresh graduate of bootcamp who is on her kill a ghaik pilgrimage.Astarion is also of unclear power, since he pretty much mostly only mentions buffs from the tadpole since he loses his vampire limitations, I don't recall him mentioning losing much. I think he was always just a mid level conventional rogue.
>>560030620haha, KEK!
I don't like you
I don't care for Wyll. You know how those people are.
Mintharafag is probably Halsin, he's buck broken too many anons to be anyone else.
>>560030065Since when was Source Vampirism in BG3?
>>560031180this is a insult, he despises Halsin
Now that the dust has settled, BOAAL was a bad addition to BG3
>>560029086Pretty sure it gives you 1500
>>560030620Who hurt you?
>>560031590If you accept his deal as Durge, you'll feel sad for becoming the tart of a false god.
convince me to play dos2, i never finished bg3 btw
>>560032543Sebille will lick you and Lohse will sing for youhttps://youtu.be/WBDSbLCk7aY
>>560032543you can fuck lizards
>>560032751That's a negative
>>560032543You should ask over at /crpg/, as this thread is about Baldurs Gate games, not divinity.
>>560032543play it and post about it here
>>560032751That's a positive
>>560033443I'm sorry, this was meant for >>560032718
>>560033018Yeah, wouldn’t want to sully the intellectually rich discussions here with anything tangentially related.
>>560033625the namefag spamming cuck porn including ai art of halsin getting pegged on valentine's day and telling people how much pussy he definitely gets was very entertaining
>>560033625The discussion here is so "intellectually rich" precisely because of the people who treat it as a communal shitting pile.
>>560033903larian divinity bg3 dos2all kino <3
Will Jennifer and Devora return for Divinity? Presumably they'll take on a smaller NPC role like Tamaryn did with Mizora
Jennifer English the Narrator
BG2 Jaheira
>>560034668yest. work for Larian
>>560034826ew turn her back
Will Alix return too? She skipped BG3, she needs to voice another elf licker
>>560034668definitely, jennifer's girlfriend literally works for larian
>>560033903and you are here actively campaigning against tangentially related discussion instead of going after those shitpostersYOU are just as much a problem as they are
>>560034826I prefer BG3 Jaheira, I have a thing for hags with big tits.
Jennifer English and her girlfriend mo-capping their sex scenes, the collector's edition will have the behind scenes footage. Think about it.
>>560035267i dont want lesbian sex scenesthats disgusting
>>560035267Her girlfriend mocapped the Shart Lae'zel fight scene. Might as well be a sex scene
>>560035335One of them can wear a strap on
>>560035467I want one scene with toys and one without.
Wyll's sex scene with him crying during the act. Think about it.
Jennifer English onlyfans, think about it
>>560035767>Wyll putting outHe's not that kind of man.
>>560035467thats still lesbian sex
>>560035770reminder that a shadowheart fan literally gifter her VA a dildo
>>560035879>lesbian sexBased
>>560035956Source/further context/her reaction??
>>560036096i only believe in consensual sex in the missionary position of the purpose of procreation2 dykes are an affront to the natural world and deserve to die in a fireall in bg3 of course
>>560036136...................
>>560036334>throat not slit#notmylaezel
>>560035879Okay? Why does that bother you?
>>560036307Lesbian sex is based and natural, dolphins and false killer whales have been documented to even have interspecies lesbian sex so gith/half-elf is cool too.
Why does Lae'zel make such funny faces?
We love lesbians & larian games around here
>>560036621
>>560036657The Lord of Murder cares not for sex.
Lesbians exist to please straight men, women that do lesbian sex behind closed doors without a man inside should be burned at the stake
Lae'zel is straight coded, she wouldn't fall for a woman
>>560036806Those men should have sex with each other instead.
>>560036536>deviancy occurs in naturewell of course defects exist in all branches of lifethey are evolutionary dead ends and their lives do not matter as their deviancy is an indirect form of population control i make sure to put down these affronts to nature in every run of bg3
>fag thinks he's invited to fagpost after we talk about lesbiansKill yourself, fag troon
>>560033625The irony is that a post like yours would have been fine a year ago. A post asking for CRPGs similar to BG3 wouldn't have been seen as derailment. But ever since the parasite started its campaign of shitting up the threads on a daily basis - including hijacking the OP to advertise an unrelated game and constant off-topic garbage - people who notice patterns are less likely to give you the benefit of the doubt. You can't play the victim while normalizing so-called "tangentially-related" spam.
>>560037026New Mexico whiptails evolved into an all female species that have sex with each other and still produce viable eggs from parthenogenesis, which is based and yuripilled.
>>560037116You need a big dick in your butt.
>>560037302>lesbians>parthenogenesispick one
>>560037639If two women fuck each other it's lesbianism regardless whether it results in fertilization. Those lizards keep humping each other because it's natural to have sex even without purposes of procreation.
>>560036764bhaal only cares about incest
>>560038049Orin was a failure though, Bhaal's ultimate creation was produced asexually.
>>560037892its natural to PROCREATE because its how we perpetuate our linepleasure evolved to incentivize thistheir behaviour (and any pleasure derived from it) could simply be the vestiges of when they were still an animal that could reproduce sexuallymaybe they observed the behaviour in other animals and copy it because it still brings pleasure despite not being able to have sexthey are as i said defects and abominations which is why i kill their kind in every playthrough of bg3
>>560038481Their lesbianism does serve a purpose, as those that do not "mate" do not lay eggs. It's likely a trigger for ovulation. This suggests sexual behaviour can serve a persistent function even in monosexual species and is thus trad and based.
Oak Father preserve us all.
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>>560039058again it may just be vestiges i dont study them so i cant say for surewhat i do know is that they are aberrations - the minority, the deviation from the norm, the unnatural freaks of the worldi also know that the more complex the organism the harder it is to reproduce in such a waybased on all this there is nothing traditional or based about any of it and faerun would be better off with all of them dead
>https://www.twitch.tv/shroud/clip/SuccessfulEndearingPidgeonPunchTrees-46KXLAMeuS9kpp5Qlet's talk about bg3's sex scenes and what should divinity learn from their success
>>560039674Lesbianism is extremely based and trad in Forgotten Realms than the real world, Shar and Selune created Mystra and Chauntea together so two women reproducing was the first sexual reproduction, following Ao creating Shar and Selune in an asexual one.
Baldur's Sneed
>>560039924shar and selune were originally one being so youre missing that one too>the same mystra who has had 3-4 incarnationsall i am hearing that lesbians are fuck ups and mistakes while creating something out of yourself asexually is the ideal
>>560039785wtf I thought minthara was a lesbian
She will make Divinity kino
>>560040496Mystra is around and still has total weave dominance after all the chuds coming after her have been killed, depowered or jailed. This proves that lesbianism is superior to asexual reproduction which only works unless it's Ao doing it (and his first act of creation was creating women who made other women together). Durge canonically failed at doing what Bhaal wanted because Baldur's Gate canonically survives.
>>560040827booba
>>560040827Stop constantly posting off-topic garbage.
>>560025608this all started as a genuine consideration on my behalf:Not many people know this but,if you play Shadowheart origin, when comes the moment of saving Shadowheart parents, the Hallowleaf couple, a line by the narrator will shine a line on some aspects that is only reveal while playing her Origin: that is, even if you save them and keep them alive, their souls have been tainted by Shar for so many years the're no real way to reedem them. Their souls have been "stolen" by Shar, twisted and perverted, plagiarized in a way they will never have respite even in death. The only true way to grant them salvation, as revealed in her origin, is to let them become moonmotes, let them die and be by Shadowheart's side in spirit.Now if you want me to say why would the whiner keep this among their treasured copypasta inside the vault of>stuff I'd gladly discuss in a videogame thread instead of discussing the actuall videogamethat really eludes me, maybe you should ask them, they love being a little piggyback riding parasite (another favorite word of them lately) at least now it seems they learned how to filter posts
>>560040827>>560040921Is this an appropriate attire to wear when promoting a professional service?
>>560041067
>In the sense that Shar "stole", she "appropriated", through torture, the souls that belonged to her sister. But I'm sure that now in your head my entire argument is invalid because I used a lemma that you consider inconsistent.Good luck deciphering that pigbabble.
Eilistraee wouldn't steal souls.
>killing Mizora to romance WyllDamn, some women down bad
>>560040887more like it proves ao is not infallible as his first decision was to make women and they immediately proceeded to fight split up and then create countless fuck upsthe version of mystr(yl)a she made got nuked and it kept happeningshe split into shar and selune and they are still having a millenia long bitch fit even nowlesbians can only produce mistakes because they are mistakesFR lore proves this to be objective fact
>>560041717Ao's method of creating women and let them handle everything is in fact far superior to the alternatives since most other DnD settings like Eberron and Dark Sun are more fucked up than the Realms.Shar and Selune also lived happily as a couple until Shar threw a bitchfit about creating the sun (at Chauntea's request).
>>560042073>its less fucked up therefore its good even if it is fucked upthats not how that worksits still a mess that was caused by women being lesbians>they were happy until they had a woman moment (inevitable)thats not genuinely being happy thats being happy that your other half is following your rules (aka a lesbian woman moment)their union was doomed to fail from the start if making light is all it took to make shar piss herself and have a meltyas evidenced by shar and, selune all lesbian unions are doomed thus killing them in game is a mercy
Why does the moonstone attack a cleric of selune?
>>560042574Shar and Selune are the exception. Lolth has had multiple heterosexual relationships and all failed. Asmodeus was in a heterosexual marriage (proving it's the devil's work) although that ended in Levistus the incel chud murdering his wife.>>560042574>its less fucked up therefore its good even if it is fucked upIt's not fucked up. Dark Sun is fucked up, so are the Nine Hells.
>>560043485Kagha can only be judged by grove law by her superiors and as she is the highest ranking druid, she is in the right.
>>560043158>its not fucked uptell that to the mortals who suffered because of dyke godsshar regularly abuses her followers and brainwashes them into liking it current mystra has subjugated wizards under her thumb because one guy tried to fix the shitty world that those lesbians dumped us inshe even threatens gale because a man tried to get out of their shitty dyke society >look at these sinsall sins that belong to lesbians by proxy because they are the ones who created this fucked up worldguarantee if the world was made by heterosexuals things would be MUCH better
All lesbians need my cock to be fixed
Kagha is the victim libtard writing, remove the shadow druid shit and the psychological torture of a child and she was the champion of moral righteousness for her people and home.
>>560043701Heterosexuals created the Nine Hells, that alone proves the Realms with its lesbian creators is superior.Evil heterosexual goddesses like Lolth are even worse than Shar from a mortal viewpoint since they have much more followers to abuse.
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>>560043956>remove all the bad things from a character so she becomes goodDuh. Let's also make Orin not murderous so she's just a clowny gal who pops out of various disguises to troll you.
>>560043956(You)
I fucking love queer women bros
Lace your heart with mine
>>560044625Bvsed
>>560044536Are you actually this low iq or baiting? The reason they added the objectively evil shadow druid shit was to make it abundantly clear that her treatment of the refugees was evil and she was clearly in the wrong. This is Larian making a political statement that there aren't two sides to this moral dilemma but that one is morally correct.
The reverse would be having the exact same scenario but finding out the refugees were sacrificing their children to a Devil so he would protect them.
>>560044253>the Hells>a realm of arguably lawful evil beings trying to keep ultimate chaos from flowing out and subsuming the world all engineered by and meant to feed one FAT FUCK depending on continuitythe devils are doing gods workjust look at zarielshe understood that their work was so important that she changed sides >lolth >blaming the kids for how they turned out when raised in mummy and mummys big lesbian worldany sins they perform reflect on shar and selunetheir lesbian world is a failure
A life cleric is practically mandatory for the Trials of Tav mod, holy. You don't get many potions for drops and any other type of cleric just can't keep up with the damage dealt.
>>560044536Ignore him. He is arguing in bad faith for a reason only he knows. Kagha would be a villain even if you replaced all the tieflings with humans and removed the Shadow Druid tripe.
>>560044830Even if the shadow druids are removed she hatched a plan to murder the tieflings in response to you stealing the idol even if you have nothing to do with them. The excuse about tieflings attracting enemies to the grove is also untrue since the ones who do that are a druid who lets goblins follow him through the secret entrance and Aradin's party. Even without the shadow druid quest removed most players would consider letting Kagha complete the rite just another evil option comparable to raiding the grove.
>>560045281that mod kinda sucks
>halsin is the only druid able to save the shadowlands>not tav, not kagha, not jaheira
>>560045550It's fun but they threw Vlaakith at me at lvl 10 lool. She teleported into a weird glitchy spot and wouldn't come down. Had to reset the fight cause of that
>>560045123Blood War is just distraction for plebs in Avernus and Zariel is the patsy, every archdevil in lower hells is just plotting to spread various degeneracy and conquer the upper planes.As for Lolth, she is an adult and responsible for her own actions. She could always become good but no.
>>560045941randomizing could be fun in any gam on paperbut giving the slow progress at the start of a DND campaign and how the game is structured, that mod felt very out of place and weirdI know for sure its been reccommended by...somebut its not my cup of tea, I prefer other ones like Ancient Mega Pack
>>560045892Halsin has studied it and knows the local spirit of the land, most other druids aren't interested.
>>560045973why would she when looking at the example a greater deity like shar is settingif she can be a fag without consequence why cant lolth>blood waris one giant scam but still necessary to fightanother lie in this giant lesbian made world
>>560045548>she hatched a plan to murder the tieflings in response to you stealing the idolYou do realise that if the tieflings stop the ritual they essentially doom the druids? It's a guaranteed death sentence for them and their grove would be desecrated. If people you gave refuge, shelter, food and water to tried to destroy your defenses to force you to risk your lives to defend them then they're essentially killing you indirectly. If the tieflings stop the ritual then a death sentence is not unreasonable, although just banishing them would be the appropriate punishment.>The excuse about tieflings attracting enemies to the groveIt's a reasonable concern and not important even if it's not true. Doesn't really matter.>just another evil optionlmao. How the fuck is putting your people and grove before the lives of foreigners even slightly evil? You do not owe them your lives. Why should the druids walk into a guaranteed slaughter (everyone dies if the player doesn't help) when they can just finish the ritual and ensure that their people and grove survive? You're legitimately insane if you think you should put foreigners before your own people.
>>560046782Because Shar is the goddess of losing and her plots fail all the time. In the most recent Drizzt book even Menzoberranzan turned against Lolth. So she chooses to be a loser h*tero even though she could be good and also convert to lesbianism.>blood warNot a necessary fight, it's mostly fought on Avernus because Asmodeus wants to distract devils and that means the demons won't die for real, defeating its stated purpose of keeping them in check, but devils do.
>>560046186>>560045892we can criticize the writing of Halsin in many ways but at least there's a real reason, according to his backstory, why he's so invested in the shadow curseit makes no sense for oliver/thaniel to be the only link to the region since we all know he fought against ketheric alongside his old archdruid, but
https://youtu.be/F1HcuQoYMTw?si=vOhOQHBO9zaQx1sCWE LOVE LIZARDS & DRAGONBORNSdivinity will be so hype
>>560047096Retard. Tieflings aren't stopping the ritual but you are in the scenario I said. You can work for yourself or for the goblins, never talk to Mol, and steal the idol which still causes Kagha to attack the tieflings who would be not guilty in any way whatsoever.> It's a reasonable concern and not important even if it's not true. Doesn't really matter.lmao>noo everyone dies if the player doesn't helpWithout the player helping, Minthara won't ever find the grove, and even if Kagha completes the rite is done it's possible to get into the grove and kill the druids if you want to.
>>560043589>Halsin expels her if Arabella dies
>>560048062It's also possible for Arabella's parents to poison her.
>>560042574>>560043158Shar and Selune are split personas of the same entity, so its masturbation instead of homosexuality
>>560043589Pretty damn sure Kagha would get judged by druid law which means when every damn response from nature-related classes is "This goes against the Oak Father's teachings" it means that Kagha is objectively in the fucking wrong.
>>560048062what was kagha supposed to do with arabella? she was a thief
>>560048212Technically everyone is a split persona of the first dividing single-cell organism but still make a difference between sex and masturbation.
>>560048409Lock her up? It's not like they're missing in lockable places.Or, you know, just the reasonable adult thing to do and return her to her parents and give her a stern talking to. After all, if Kagha was planning to just throw the tieflings out, why the fuck would she want to keep Arabella around?
>>560048409Spank her and send her back to her parents.
>>560048429Uh, that's not really the same thing man. Shar and Selune are the same goddess, she just has a split personality and each persona has its own human avatar.
>>560045548>she hatched a plan to murder the tieflings in response to you stealing the idol Not quite. She prepared for the eventuality of a violent confrontation because the tieflings represent a credible threat - they even count a seasoned warrior in Zevlor, makeshift militia, and a blacksmith forging weapons of war - and tensions were rising. There's a difference. Vigilance is exactly what you want from a leader whose duty is to protect her people. Her suspicions are confirmed if you decide to side with Zevlor and murder her.>Zevlor: It's Kagha's influence. Without her twisting things, I believe the druids might see sense.>Player: Then why don't you get rid of her?>Zevlor: A low thought, but I'd be lying if I said I hadn't considered it.That's premeditation. Kagha wants the tieflings gone. Zevlor considers assassination in response. Ask yourself whether that gives him any moral high ground.
>>560048557As a hostage to prevent further Tiefling action, probably.
Why didn't Kagha make any effort to rescue Halsin, or even find out if he was still alive?
>>560047720>Tieflings aren't stopping the ritual but you are in the scenario I said.Not relevant as they're removing all foreigners/guests from their grove. The killing is needless as they should just be removed/banished. If this is actually how it plays out then it's another instance of libtard writing. Why would the druids kill them instead of just forcibly banishing them? Unless they fight back ofc which in that case makes the killing justified.>It's a reasonable concern and not important even if it's not true.Yes? Are you mentally challenged? How the fuck does it matter if Kagha is wrong about such a trivial thing?>Without the player helping, Minthara won't ever find the grove,This isn't true, if you enter act 2 without helping out the grove and then go back to the grove everyone will be dead as they're killed by the goblins.>even if Kagha completes the rite is done it's possible to get into the grove and kill the druids if you want to.Pretty sure you can't do that without exploits and even if you could then nobody is arguing that the player isn't strong enough to massacre the druids. What even is your point or argument?
>zevlor the only guy actively planning the murder of the grove leader so he could get his way>no it is kagha who is evil herethese fucking thieflings no wonder they've been kicked out of so many civilizations throughout history
>>560047720>and steal the idol which still causes Kagha to attack the tieflings who would be not guilty in any way whatsoeverthis causes the druids to attack all outsiders, including you. a tiefling already tried to steal it once
>>560048796Then again, just lock her up. They've got moving walls and shit in spades, putting her next to an aggressive, venomous snake was fucking retarded, or just downright malicious.
I wish Kaghachuds would just admit they defend her because they want to fuck her.
>>560048651They're separate now, there isn't any trinity style fuckery going on with the Realms cosmology.
>give refuge and shelter to foreigners >tell them that we must take desperate measures to ensure the survival of our grove and people which will sadly mean that you have to leave>try to stop their ritual and kill their leaderImagine unironically arguing for the tieflings being in the right here lmao
>>560049060i think she's ugly but she's not wrong for wanting to kick out the thieflings
>>560049218And she doesn't even kick them out until someone stops their ritual
>>560049116Kagha didn't give the tieflings refuge, Halsin did, they don't owe *her* anything. Kagha then just wants to throw them to the goblins and kill them all.You try to kill me, I'll just kill you before. Easy as.
>>560049218>thieflingsJust proves your bias
>>560048897They corral the tiefling civilians into the prison pen and massacre them there, and even shout "the time has come" when they start it. They're coded to be hostile to everyone at that point but it's clearly just Kagha planning mass murder, she's no better than the goblins, and her excuses about tieflings leading enemies to the grove were bunk.
>>560049339Are Kaghafags media illiterate and must place everything in a black and white dichotomy?
>>560047148necessary in that he manufactured a very real threat that while the archdevils could probably fix it easily with their combined power they wontso it is necessary to donot a genuine struggle with consequences the archdevils are not prepared for but its still a real war>lolth keeps failingyeah because FR cant have "evil" win in any serious capacityeven comics eventually undo any paradigm shifts caused by those labeled villains
>>560049339She is the leader of the grove, she can kick them out whenever she wants. The tieflings are there at her pleasure, the fuck are you writing man.>Kagha then just wants to throw them to the goblins and kill them all.No, she wants to protect her people and grove. If she wanted the tieflings dead she would kill them but she doesn't unless someone stops the ritual.>You try to kill me, I'll just kill you before. Easy as.So you're dishonourable scum that wants to attack people that give you protection because they refuse to risk their lives for you? How fucking jewish are you, what the fuck?
>>560048862If you enter act 2 or the mountain pass without doing anything at the grove or goblin camp, it doesn't get found by Minthara but the rite gets completed. Minthara will destroy it if you trigger the raid before leaving the region.
Kagha's failure are not hers, but Halsin's.As an Archdruid, he failed on all fronts, and he would work much better as a tragic, impotent hero instead of a big elf hunk who thinks about sex all the timeI think it's pretty out of character for one with his rank and duty
>>560049698>She is the leader of the groveNo she is not, Halsin still is. She wants to be leader but she is not, Rath even says as much.
>>560049782If you say so, the point is the same. Either they all die or rite gets finished and the druids/grove survive. Meaning that Kagha is right about them not having a fighting chance and must therefore complete the rite.
>>560049698>She is the leader of the groveNo, Halsin is. She's a usurper.>No, she wants to protect her people and groveThen take the fucking extra troops that want to help defending instead of tossing them out to their sure deaths. And like >>560049427 says, it was already clear Kagha wanted to mass murder them from the very beginning.>So you're dishonourable scum that wants to attack people that give you protection because they refuse to risk their lives for you? How fucking jewish are you, what the fuck?It literally doesn't matter what you're saying here. You can try to weasel your way out of this with as much bullshit about honor and jews as you want. You can bitch, you can whine, you can cry.You try to kill me, I'll just kill you first. If you push me towards a lava pool, you bet your fucking ass I'll just grab you and pull you down. You can die while crying jew all you want.
>>560049657>even comics eventually undo any paradigm shifts caused by those labeled villainsFR's biggest paradigm shifts have been caused by villains, like Time of Troubles by the Dead Three. Didn't go as they wanted but they instigated it.
>>560048409this is how you know kaghafags are mentally ill
>>560050012She is the acting leader while Halsin is away, literally not a single druid questions this. Halsin even says she's in charge while he's away. Why do you think all the druids do what she says? I'm seriously baffled at what you're writing, it's illogical.
Kathak would have made a great companion because she's just as dumb as astarion and minthara
>>560048409What do you do with child thieves irl
>>560049060Nah, they're just chuds trying to push the political message that all refugees are bad and deserve to die, even when they're not even trying to stay at your place and want to leave as quick as possible.
>>560050225I'm not a druid
>>560049339they owe the grove and its current representative kagha a debt
>>560050020They do have a fighting chance but player input is required to trigger the fight. And saying player input is too big of a risk is nonsense since the rite won't complete without player input either.
>>560050354If they owe the grove a debt for taking them in when it was safe, and then the grove pushes them out when it's not safe anymore, then they don't owe anything. In fact, the balance comes out negative.
>>560050494>thieflings stealing yeah it comes negative alright
>>560050176Rath and Findal will side with you against Kagha if it comes to a fight regardless of the shadow druids. Rath's problem is being too much of a pussy to do it independently which is why Halsin won't put him in charge after leaving.
>>560050176>its illogicallol Then why does Halsin take back leadership instantly once he returns and scolds Kagha for killing Arabella/causing strife? Rath questions her leadership. She railed the other druids because they are also assholes who hate outsiders and racist to tieflings. Like yourself.>>560050275Yeah its obvious, hate fags who must insert this into a fantasy world.
>>560050023incorrect again; in halsin's absence she is the grove
>>560050023>She's a usurperAre you stupid? Why do all druids do what she says? Halsin is gone so who is in charge? Nobody questions that she's in charge. Even after act 1 Halsin says that Kagha wasn't ready to lead and has more to learn before she's ready, that's why he sends for another arch druid.>Then take the fucking extra troops that want to helpWhat? The grove always gets massacred without the player. They have no fighting chance. This is objective fact, you have no argument here.>clear Kagha wanted to mass murder them from the very beginningShe only kills them if they stop the ritual, how is that her wanting to commit mass murder?>You can bitch, you can whine, you can cry.I accept your concession here, you have no argument.
You know what would've been nice? If they had fleshed out the shadow druids more. I'm new to D&D and seeing the evil side of druids would've been neat.
Kagha is wrong but she should be redeemable and sexable.
>president disappears>vice president becomes an usurperthese thiefling lovers are so fucking retarded its unreal
>>560049093>muh retconBut even then that lore still exists in BG3 itself per in game literature. Shar and Selune are different aspects of the same schizo goddess, if you don't like that then don't take it up with me, take it up with Swen and WoTC.
>>560050749The shadow druids on their own are basically eco terrorists who destroy mining and logging operations, they have a bit bigger role in BG1. The isolationism push they were trying to spread into the other groves in BG3 was Ketheric's plot and was going to end up with them getting tadpoles.
A cleansing Minthy
>>560050749They are in BG1 and 2 but not really in depth
>>560050735>Nobody questions that she's in charge.Multiple druids question her being in charge. Rath does, Nettie does, that one druid outside with the bird trying to locate Halsin does. They know by position she's supposed to be in charge, but they question the fact she's just trying to undo everything Halsin did as soon as he got captured.>What? The grove always gets massacred without the player. Without the player, the grove never gets found to begin with.>>560050883>president disappears>vice president immediately ceases all efforts to find president, declares all of president's previous orders are now null, tries to break alliances, kill people and close the country which also means president will never ever have a chance of coming backWhew, I wonder why?
>>560050640>Then why does Halsin take back leadership instantlyBecause she's only in charge while he's away? Are you actually sub 90 iq, jesus what kind of fucking imbeciles are replying to me?>scolds KaghaBecause he obviously disagrees with her choices (he's wrong as everyone would be dead if they did what he wanted them to do unless the player intervenes)>Rath questions her leadership.Okay? So what? This is not an argument and completely irrelevant.>She railed the other druids because they are also assholesSo she's essentially a democratically elected leader with the support of the majority of druids? Okay, great? Not relevant.
>>560050967you're arguing with mantharafag who just really wants them to be lesbians. don't bother engaging.
>>560050967It isn't really a retcon unless it's a retcon of a retcon, they were considered separate back in the 90's.
>>vice president immediately ceases all efforts wrong again retard nettie's birds all die when nearing the camp which means they're searching for him
>>560051121meds
Imagine if all the tieflings were white humans, would this change anything
>>560051161The druid outside literally tells you she's sending the birds in secret from Kagha, you actual retard. Because at that point Kagha has already fallen for the Shadow Druid's bs and is giddy with excitement at getting rid of Halsin and becoming the leader that will then try to destroy all civilization.
>>560051018she's so smol
>>560051316It would, but they're not going to admit it now that you've said it out loud.
>>560051091>Rath does, Nettie does, that one druid outside with the bird trying to locate Halsin doesthey are insurrectionists. kagha is the legal and just figure for the continuation of power in his absence
The answer is insanely obvious here, anons.Larian developed a complex moral situation, where it was "do the isolationists kick out the outsiders, despite their real leader welcoming the outsiders with open arms, to keep themselves safe or do they risk certain death with a fight that isn't theirs to keep innocents safe?"Then they got cold feet and toned it down a notch, and made it so Kagha was objectively in the wrong and evil and not even trying to help the Grove because Ketheric was interfering by sending the Shadow Druids to manipulate her
>>560051161The problem with Rath, Nettie and Apikusis is cowardice, the situation is that the president goes missing, vice president starts breaking the grove constitution and everyone stands around wringing their hands until outsiders come and put things right or the rite is completed and everyone sits around waiting for the tadpole.
Sweet I guess I have a legit reason to raid the grove now. Thanks Mol.
>>560051091>Multiple druids question her being in chargeHoly mother of God, the absolute fucking state of you people. They think she's an unfit leader and that she's making the incorrect choices. Not that she somehow illegally usurped the position. And only a small handful of druids disagree with her, the majority agree with her.>They know by position she's supposed to be in chargeOkay I take it back a bit, you're not braindead, my bad.>Without the player, the grove never gets found to begin with.We have no way of knowing that. If the rite doesn't occur everyone dies. If the rite occurs we have no way of knowing if the goblins found it or not.
>>560051485>or do they risk certain death with a fight that isn't theirs1- The death isn't certain.2- Yes, the fight is theirs. More than the tiefling's. The tieflings were just passing through, the army of the Absolute was just razing and sacking the land, which happens to be the druid's. Unless these druids don't actually care about the land, I guess.
>>560051485> If the rite doesn't occur everyone diesOnly if the player leads Minthara to the grove or kills the druids.
I won't ever kill the tieflings, but I have murdered all the druids before. RIP my queen Nettie
>>560051610>We have no way of knowing that.Yes we do, we objectively do. Minthara never finds out the grove's location unless you tell her/send Sazza to tell her. The grove ONLY falls if you let her know and THEN you fuck off.And considering the only difference between victory or defeat is your party of four goobers, it's not hard to see that if the druids had actually stood there at the wall with the tieflings instead of staying in the inner sanctum and waiting for them to get overrun and then get encircled themselves, it'd have been a perfectly winnable battle.
>>560051752Anon read "here's what Larian was obviously going for, but had to change it because they didn't want to go hard" and went UHHHHH ACKSHUALLY IN GAME THISH DOESHNT HAPPEN
>>560051971Based and bexpilled
>>560051752>1- The death isn't certain.Everyone dies if the rite doesn't occur or the player helps them out. It's only a handful of druids and small about tieflings capable of fighting against a huge army hellbent on destruction. Even if it was a 50/50, it's a completely unnecessary risk for a handful of foreigners.>Unless these druids don't actually care about the land, I guess.The rite will ensure the survival of the druids, the grove and the surrounding lands. Fighting a huge army capable of taking on Baldur's Gate is not something they can hope to win.
>>560052049That's cool and all but what I said still applies to your first premise and that was the point of my post. That even with your shitty "If I leave half the information out maybe Kagha looks better" what ifs, she still looks bad.
>>560052072minthara and his besties
>>560052094>Fighting a huge army capable of taking on Baldur's GateOh for fuck's sake, don't act like the small goblin division in Act 1 is somehow the entirety of the army, or as if the druids even know it's part of a larger army and not just a shitty gobbo camp.
>>560052094The surrounding lands will belong to the Absolute, so will the shadow druids and Kagha by extension. That's not going to the fact that the Rite of Thorns is banned because it makes the isolated performers go crazy which a druid character can note so maybe the druids will just kill each other before getting tadpoled.
I did wonder why Halsin is so nice and all the other druids are standoffish assholes. Rath and Nettie are aight I guess.
>>560052004That's a gameplay limitation. If you do not take out the goblin leadership then they're organised enough to eventually find the grove. The idea that given enough time they wouldn't be able to send a scouting party able to succeed seems way less likely than the opposite.Also what happens to the grove if you stop the rite but don't do anything else and just move on to the next act? They goblins raid it, no? So that means they always find it if the rite is stopped.
>create a wall of displacer beast clones>surely the 2 int Dinosaur will just run towards me attacking, thus triggering multiple AoOs>2 int dinosaur backs away to a tactical distance and growlsIf I was the DM it wouldn't have gone down like that>>560052178Yeah bro I hate Kagha as written, she's a fucking retardI just think Larian missed out on an actual interesting moral conundrum, like they did with Wulbren and the GondiansThe Druids are putting themselves in insane danger by helping the Tieflings, and the very first Tieflings you encounter tell you the exact location of the grove under a DC 5 checkThe fight is not theirs, because the Goblins are only there to look for the artifact. They aren't razing the land like Saruman
>>560052418Inwe and Apikusis are OK although you have to convince the latter.
>being sympathetic to the druids This is new to me. They are turbo cunts to you as well
>>560052575>They aren't razing the land like SarumanMinthara explicitly says that they've been exterminating religious communities like the grove, the artifact orders came on top of the original mission after the nautiloid crashed.
>>560052575>and the very first Tieflings you encounter tell you the exact location of the grove under a DC 5 checkYeah, you're not a goblin, you're a wounded person. It's not like they're at fault for not knowing beforehand that the goblins are working with a broader alliance.>They aren't razing the land like SarumanThey definitely are. They can do both at once, which you see them do more than once. All the forest around the temple is fucking burned down, and they planted mines around.
>>560052763It's just some retard trying to insert real life politics into the game and since refugees bad druids good.
>>560052763Kagha is obviously in the right with the rite of thorns. That's what any moral leader would do given the circumstances. The idea that you would risk your entire grove and people for the sake of some refugees is insanity.
>>560052418Based on the way he talks about his successor Francesca and how he himself became archdruid of that grove, I think there's a network of druid groves around Baldur's Gate (and probably farther along the Sword Coast) that operate as a bigger organization, and individual druids move around between them. Chances are just because Halsin was the current leader didn't mean all of the druids were his personal followers.
>>560052795I don't care about religious communities, I care about the land.>>560052821>All the forest around the temple is fucking burned downWell, that's egg on my face then, isn't it?Now, watch this drive.
>>560052978The rite of thorns is the equivalent of flooding your country with free fentanyl hoping the people you won't like will overdose and die.
>>560052959This isn't an argument and you're injecting your own distilled retardation to something literally nobody is saying and arguing for. You're clearly demented in the head from years of propaganda/culture war bs to even look at this rationally.
>>560052978Did you pay attention to the game, or did you invent your own narrative because you hate refugees. My memory is rusty but doesn't Halsin say the Rite was not right to do.
>>560053114Druids are a religious community, they usually worship Silvanus.
>Kagha kills a child then goes party with her parentsMy intelligent, morally correct druid
>>560053128It's a protective ritual that floods the grove with druidic thorns that don't harm druids or the grove but defends it against attackers. How is this even comparable?
>>560053269That is correct, I do not care about the institution of the druids. As I said, I think the situation as written is like a DM creating a moral conundrum and then retconning it the next session to make it objectively Good and Evil.I care about the land.
Speaking of the land angle - reminder that the reason the birds are returning injured is because the goblins are killing every animal in the area too.
>>560053529As you see when playing a druid character, it's banned because it fucks up the isolated performers even though they are supposed to be "safe".
>>560053719Also some birds died and came back anyway because Ethel dug them up.
>>560053941Speaking of, how the fuck did no druid ever figure out they were living right next to a hag and that she was inviting herself into the grove pretending to be an elderly human??
>>560054085harpies live right next to the grove, it's best to not overthink the way larian designs worlds & settlements
>>560054085They know Ethel is around now but it might have been found out recently, she's never mentioned in the old grove records dating back to before Moonhaven was razed.
>>560053796>was a rarely seen Silvanite ritual>Rite of Thorns was considered a rare practice that was banned across most druidic circles due to consensus that the ritual caused more harm than goodI don't remember the exact details in regards to it but looking at the wiki gives me the greentext.So it seems to be a legitimate silvanite rite that is allowed to be performed by their patron god. That it does more harm than good is not applicable in our situation because we know that if the rite doesn't occur and the player doesn't intervene then the grove is slaughtered. If the alternative is a desecrated grove and the death of all druids and that is not considered the lesser evil then when the fuck would this rite be acceptable? Why would their god even allow it?
>>560051018based
>>560054521>>560052004>And considering the only difference between victory or defeat is your party of four goobers, it's not hard to see that if the druids had actually stood there at the wall with the tieflings instead of staying in the inner sanctum and waiting for them to get overrun and then get encircled themselves, it'd have been a perfectly winnable battle.At that point, the only reason to do the rite is because they druids are cowards, lazy, or both. They're going to respond to a razing army that's burning the lands by performing a ritual that will harm the land even further and sentence a group of refugees to death because... they'd rather do that than actually fight side by side with said refugees for their land.Which would mean they don't even deserve to be called druids.
>>560054830
>>560054862You shouldn't judge the gameplay fight that is the goblin raid with the actual goblin raid. Like yeah it's obviously a joke that they can't fight that, you have to disassociate gameplay and the player's plot armour with stuff like that.>druids are cowards, lazy, or bothThey're not, they know that fighting is a death sentence and therefore choose that which will protect most people and the grove (the land).>performing a ritual that will harm the land even furtherThe goblins will harm the land ever more than the rite so clearly the lesser evil.>they'd rather do that than actually fight side by side with said refugees for their landIt's an established fact that the fight would be a death sentence and that they don't have enough fighting men to resist the raiding party.>Which would mean they don't even deserve to be called druids.Performing the ritual ensures the survival of their grove, its surrounding area and keepers (druids) to tend and worship it after the goblins have gone away. They're choosing what is best for the grove (land) instead of risking it all for an extremely slim chance to save the refugees and their grove.
For me it's Inwe, cutest girl in the grove
>>560051752>1- The death isn't certain....but survival is, should they complete the rite. That's why so many in the circle agree with Kagha's decision, though some express varying degrees of reluctance about having to cast the tieflings out. The fundamental moral question - whether one should risk their skin for strangers because it is the right thing to do - doesn't change because you tweak the probability of death. Life isn't a war simulation, in which there are battles with acceptable casualties. We have reached an absurd point where prioritizing your own survival or that of your people, as cowardly or selfish as it may be, is considered immoral, if not evil. In reality, the average person would find Kagha's stance very reasonable, while acknowledging the moral weight on their conscience. The grove situation doesn't pit very evil druids against very innocent refugees. It portrays two groups who just want to survive.
>>560055664Nonsense. The rite doesn't protect the land around the grove and the goblins will fuck it up. Ultimately if the druids go fucked in the head they'll wreck the inside themselves too.
>>560055849Good and correct post, if Larian just removed the shadow druid shit it would have been perfect
>>560054830but you said Minthara is a lesbian?
>>560055664>You shouldn't judge the gameplay fight that is the goblin raid with the actual goblin raid.Why not? You say "disassociate the gameplay", but even the ingame dialogues point out to it after the battle. After you help defend the grove, you can go right back into their inner sanctum and point out not a single druid actually helped, and yet your four goobers were indeed enough to turn the tide. You can even call one of the druids a coward to his face and point out they pussied out when the day was not lost yet.They're just cowards who aren't willing to actually fight for their home, even with everything in their favor.
>>560055849Kagha's stance is also a targeted mass murdering the tieflings if player messes with the idol, even if the player is not doing it on behalf of the tieflings. Average person would find her even more reprehensible without the Shadow Druids since there would be no "external corruption" excuse.
>>560055849You still don't get that the problem isn't Kagha wanting to protect her people. The problem is that she goes about it the absolute worst way, the defeatist way that will inevitably result in widespread death and destruction, because she'd rather have that than even try at all.And the reason she'd rather have that, the objectively less optimal choice, is because of the Shadow Druid plot. Because she gets to take power.
>>560055930>The rite doesn't protect the land around the groveIt does protect the land it envelopes, I believe some outside the grove is enveloped too, and that's what I meant. The grove in of itself is land.>the goblins will fuck it up.The goblins will always fuck that up.>Ultimately if the druids go fucked in the head they'll wreck the inside themselves too.It's a legitimate Silvanite ritual, why would Silvanus allow such a ritual to be performed if it was worse than the alternative (desecrated grove and death of all druids)? If it means that all druids will go insane and become evil and destroy their own land and that's guaranteed to happen, then why the fuck does it even exist. If the given circumstance isn't the one exception to cast it, what purpose does it serve?
>>560052004holy shit you cannot be THIS retardedthis is on the level of qualifying for mental disability benefits
>>560056480No argument, just insults. Pathetic.
when I attacked the druids, they went massacre mode on the lvl 1 noncombatant tieflings. And you stilL think they are morally righteous
>>560056669yes its an in group vs out group thing why are you so dense
forgive me for not arguing with a mentally ill retard who cannot be convinced no matter how anyone tries to correct him
>>560056356Goblins leave the region if the player kills the leaders or defeats the raid.>why would Silvanus allow such a ritual to be performed if it was worse than the alternativeBecause Silvanus is an uncaring neutral god of nature who considers goblin life as valuable as human life, druid neutrality especially in older editions was batshit. The ritual wouldn't be banned if it didn't have serious downsides.
>>560056716Yes guys with machine guns should gun defenseless civilians
>>560056807political power grows out of the barrel of a gun afterall
>>560056386The person who wrote this has a small dick.
>>560018768Sauce me up 2
>>560056743Pussy.Then again, that's who I'd expect to agree with Kagha.
>>560056873>political power>from a group nobody cares about in a isolated area far from civilization
>>560056716My party is the ingroup and Kagha is the outgroup.
>>560057041power is power and its an in group vs out group thing why are you so dense
>>560056887all bg3 players do
>>560018318Sauce, Anon please.
>>560057137The tieflings give them NO power, they are weak and disliked by everyone
>>560057246and thus the weak must fear the strong
>>560057137Was Halsin part of the in group, or the out group for Kagha to give up the search for him?Were the Shadow Druids part of the in group, or the out group, for Kagha to hand the grove off to them?
He did nothing wrong,
>>560057297>the strong>Kagha
>>5600571815 inches is not small.
well which one is it you can't have it both ways
>>560056020>yet your four goobers were indeed enough to turn the tideThat's plot armour/writing, it's not that 4 people were enough but that the writers deemed it that the player could stop it.>not a single druid actually helpedPresumably because Kagha ordered it so and all druids seem to strictly follow orders. Even the druids that questioned her leadership still obey her orders when push came to shove. So we know it's not cowardice because those druids were against the rite and wanted to fight but were not willing to disobey orders.>aren't willing to actually fight for their homeI disagree with the cowardice bit as you can see above, but as for why they didn't fight that is a worthwhile topic. I'm guessing the main reason is that they thought it was a hopeless endeavour and by locking themselves in the sanctum they could save their own lives and hopefully a portion of the Grove? If you win then all druids are safe and if you lose then their help probably didn't matter and maybe they are able to maybe hold the sanctum and prevent the goblins from desecrating it. Now ofc they could have still helped you fight and if the battle was lost escaped to the sanctum. But yeah, when the battle actually took place they should have fought rather than hide. Kagha was in the wrong here.
>>560057481lmao
>>560056386>What am I supposed to tell my nieceProbably apologize first of all for being a poo in the loo shitskin, then flush himselfbut other than that it's pretty strange that this grown man is worried about his niece entering his room unannounced. Even if he lives in a favela with his family or whatever he could just lock his door. But even if he didn't, do browns just walk into other people's rooms without knocking first? On so many levels its just such a strange complaint. What a nigger.
>>560057481Gale...
>>560057335>We must kill the gondians, they allied themselves with Gortash!>It's fine Wulbren, we found out the truth, Gortash took their families hostage and put explosive slave collars on them.>NO BUT WE MUST KILL DA GONDIANS
>>560057335I'm sure he didn't but it's simpler to just make a deal with Gortash than to deal with gnomish feuds.
>>560055849it's funny that you post her because she's got literally no backbone in her, she's even scared of fucking goblins.
>>560057576And yet, when freed from their explosive slave collars they continue to make Steel WatchersUnder their commandTo be used only judiciously, I'm sure
Kagha will be a shadow druid villain in bg4, mark my words. No you can't redeem her.
>>560057842I will redeem her and have sex with her.
>>560056998not agreeing with kagha just saying (they fail if (You) don't intervene) is a 50 iq take because OF COURSE THEY WOULD IT'S A VIDEO GAME MEANT TO PLAY OUT YOUR POWER FANTASYthe fact i have to explain this at all means you've won so well done retard
>>560057916Adult Arabella will show up and vineslap her
>>560057985Hot
>>560057927Muh power fantasy is to save everyone and never be mean to anyone :) it's called being a good person
What if... a new Icewind Dale game instead
>>560056753>Goblins leave the region if the player kills the leaders or defeats the raid.I've replied to so many people that it's difficult to know if every person replying to me is aware of what I've written before but we're of course only talking about if the player does not intervene. Obviously defeating the goblins is the best thing to do, not the rite.>Because Silvanus is an uncaring neutral god of nature Okay but this isn't relevant to the original point which was>Ultimately if the druids go fucked in the head they'll wreck the inside themselves too.If Silvanus only cares about nature and you're claiming the ritual will result in the druids destroying the grove/land then why would he allow it?>The ritual wouldn't be banned if it didn't have serious downsides.Yes, it makes sense if it's bad in 99% of cases. But again, this would be the one time it makes sense, as I've previously explained.
Sex. I'm talking about sex. Intercourse. Fade to black with implied coitus. It's always about sex with you "people." Missionary sex with Astarion. On his grave. Altar sex with Minthara. Your obedience will make this more enjoyable for the both of you. Moonlit sex with Shadowheart. Selûne is watching, but you don't care. Sparring sex to establish dominance with Lae'zel. Submissive sex, too. Lower. Taste. Hot and passionate sex with Karlach. Until you see nothing but stars. Sex. Why can't you have sex with Jaheira? That's not fair. I'm sure she's still a cougar, if you know what I mean. And by that, I mean sex. Kagha should have been a companion. So you could have sex with her. The viper must strike... get it? The joke is sex. The punchline is sex. Mizora should have been your patron. So she could reward you with sex. Good pup. Sex. Remember to frequently long rest - not so you can rest your mind and body, but so you can have more sex, of course. Sex with Bex the sex. Awkward sex with Alfira. Sad sex with Inwe. Sex with the harpies, too. Sex, sex, sex! Pity sex with Florrick. She owes you as much for saving her. Do you think Vlaakith is a virgin? Sex with Baretha, Yy'rul, Therezzyn, Isobel, Aylin, Araj, Sloncha, Patty, Dalyria, Elin, and all these characters who exist only for sexual temptation. Forbidden sex with the Mother Superior. I wonder if Shar ever had sex. Lesbian sex. Incestuous sex. Twin sister sex. Shapeshifting sex with Orin - even if she murders you after. Worth it. Sex. Has it been about 2 minutes since you last thought of sex? Are there any mods that enhance sex scenes? Can't wait to turn on photo mode, or sex mode as I like to call it... you know what that means. Sex. Lots of it. Swearing an Oath of Devotion to sex. First tenet: Never miss an opportunity for sex. Oh, but if the writers even suggest that a companion might be interested in sex... then they're sex-obsessed. What can change the nature of a person? The answer must be sex.
Kagha would job to the goblins
>>560056096I already refuted this framing in a previous post (>>560048717), but it was conveniently ignored. Zevlor is not some innocent victim. He actually considers assassinating Kagha for no other reason than it would increase the odds of *his* people surviving. Both sides are thinking about themselves first - because why would they not? You prioritize your own kind (in-group bias) in a matter of life or death. This is very natural.
>>560057517>That's plot armour/writing, it's not that 4 people were enough but that the writers deemed it that the player could stop it.And yet, even if it's a plot convenience, there is no way in hell to pretend like your party alone was somehow more powerful than every single druid in the grove at the same time. If the druids had fought, it'd have been an even easier battle.>Kagha ordered it and they're just following orders!Damn, we're operating on nazi logic now. What a riveting defense.Also that logic about "just hold the sanctum" is precisely the strategy that gets them killed in the one scenario where the grove gets destroyed, aka. when you reveal the location but don't help. Why? Because as pointed out multiple times, the wall to the outside is a perfect defensive position. The sanctum is the EXACT OPPOSITE. Imagine holding your ground while you're surrounded on all sides AND on the lowest level. That logic about just letting the tieflings be fodder on the wall and then holding your druids back gets everyone killed. Even more when you consider the druid specialty is to ensnare people, so the higher wall was a perfect place to do that and then pester the enemy from safety.
>>560057038So if you stop the rite of thorns and then just move on to act 2 without killing the leaders, what happens to the grove? It gets raided, no?
>>560058194kys
>>560057927>(they fail if (You) don't intervene) is a 50 iq takeLook man, there are only three possible scenarios here.Either you don't tell Minthara where the grove is and move on, in which case you meet her again in Act 2 getting scolded because she never found the grove.You tell her and then fuck off, which means the tieflings lose at the wall and the druids get massacred at the sanctum.Or you tell her but then help defend the wall, in which case the goblins can't do jackshit because the smallest amount of firepower at the wall was enough to turn the tide. Which the druids could have provided themselves if they weren't busy shooting themselves in the dick.
>>560058110>If Silvanus only cares about nature and you're claiming the ritual will result in the druids destroying the grove/land then why would he allow it?Because if the side effects of the rite make druids go crazy and kill each other, the plants and animals in the grove will be fine and their lives are of equal worth to Silvanus.
>3 acts in bg3>at leasts 2 autists have been arguing about an irrelevant event at the start of the game for at least 2 days now
Tag yourselfI'm the guy encouraging his virgin friend to have a go with the drow
>>560058656I never played EA but since I assume this event was there too it must have been going for more than 2 years.
>>560058665I'm the drow. ;)
>>560058665I'm the handsome, younger man on the poster
>>560058196>your party alone was somehow more powerful than every single druid in the groveI mean, you literally can massacre all the druids on your own if you want. Your party defeats the netherbrain. Of course you're stronger than all druids. I thought this was obvious to everyone?>muh nazisIt's not even a nazi defence, what are you on about. The nazi defence was that they were not guilty of crimes because they were following orders, that's not at all what we're talking about here. I said that it likely wasn't cowardice because certain druids stated they wanted to fight and not do the ritual but still followed orders. If they were cowards why would they be against the rite in the first place? Logic doesn't follow. A coward would want the rite so they didn't have to fight.>precisely the strategy that gets them killedI agree that it's stupid but I'm not sure they would have survived against the goblins even if they didn't hide. Of course they would have had better fighting chances if they helped the tieflings defend it.
>>560058329They don't find the grove, that's what I'm saying. If you stop the right of thorns by exposing Kagha and killing the Shadow Druids, but don't go kill the goblin leaders, but ALSO don't tell them where the grove is (or rescue Sazza so that she does) then the Tieflings are expelled from the grove and die, but the grove itself and the druids remain unharmed. Minthara, having been unable to locate and subjugate it, is incarcerated at Moonrise Towers. It's actually hilarious how whether you help the tiefniggers or not is completely irrelevant as to their fate except for Arabella.
>>560058656It's a bit sad when the game is over, so discussing the early parts is comfy.
>>560058665I'm the elf selling vegetables right next to them
>>560059109A just choice
>>560058457>Because if the side effects of the rite make druids go crazy and kill each otherOkay you're only talking about the druids killing each other then?>they'll wreck the inside themselves tooBecause what you previously wrote implies they'd wreck the grove/land.>the plants and animals in the grove will be fine and their lives are of equal worth to Silvanus.Yeah that's all fine. The druids would give their lives to protect the grove and land in exchange for their lives. If they don't perform the rite then they lose their lives AND the grove gets desecrated. All that still supports the use of the rite of thorns.
Kaghas never gonna fuck you bro
Well, anon?
>While Wyll and Karlach have dialogues for this camp event, they cannot be seen in normal gameplay Karlach bros...
>>560060241Well, she was the last companion addedEven after Minthara and Halsin
at this point im just going to filter kaghas name so i dont have to see this new schizo harp on about how hes sure kagha is just so great and good
Doesn't this mean we can just kill him and raise him with the True Resurrection spell?
I feel bad for the flaming fist whose only question to a prostitute isAm I beautiful?poor bastard
>>560060405Has nothing to do with that. They wrote/recorded dialogue for her during this camp scene but fucked up/didn't take into account when the wrote the trigger that cancels this event. Because her location on the map requires you to move through an area that cancels this event it's impossible to hear her dialogue normally. Same thing with Wyll.
>>560060706Sure, now find the ability to cast True Resurrection.>B-but Gale's scrollNeeded to prevent him from nuking a huge swath of the world. He's not giving it up because some vampire spawn he's known for a month feels sad about being a vampire.
>>560060723The Dark Urge gets an inspiration for being a coomer here btw, Swen is based
how do we fix wyll
>>560061081Change his va, remove the ugly transformation, make him actually charismatic
>>560058656Some parts of the discussion were interesting. More importantly, it shows that even an "irrelevant" part of the game can still spark debate, which is a pleasant surprise.>>560058186Nah, she'd win.
>>560061081Literally just add the dialogue option for Tav to go>Let Wyll make his own choiceWyll is everything that anons claim to love in a character - strong moral compass burdened with a moral dilemma, sacrificing the self to save thousands, a prince-esque backstoryWyll suffers from two things - his story being tied to Karlach, the least interesting character in the game, and his inability to make his own choices.You can fix #2, you can't fix #1 without extreme rewrites or more stuff encouraging the PC to kill Karlach (which Larian did the literal opposite of)
>>560061617>strong moral compass burdened with a moral dilemma, sacrificing the self to save thousands, a prince-esque backstoryI don't care about any of that if the character isn't entertaining or well written
>If not the, then one of the biggest ones, sure. How does that feel? Does it feel like you're among the industry giants?>Vincke: No, no, it still feels like we're very small. We still think of ourselves as an underdog!>I think there's a lot of other small studios that will feel offended to hear that.>Vincke: Yeah, I know what you mean, but we've been that underdog for centuries, right? So it stays in us. I mean, we want to make very big, ambitious games which go against the stream, really, so we don't make it easy for ourselves, which means that we're constantly up struggling uphill. But I think that's just what we want to do.despite having hundreds of employees swen still has that dog in him
>>560061081Make Wyll an attractive white woman
>>560062120trvke
>>560061705My mistake, I thought you were seriously asking for suggestions for how to make Wyll a better companion
how do we fix shadowheart, halsin & astarion
Bet none of you fuckers have had this scene play out, seems you can only get this if you're alone or have only recruited shadowheart
Gale still worships Mystra and Mystra tasked him with orb suicide and Elminster said it was akin to forgiveness so why is he worried about killing himself? Whatever pain he would endure would last barely any time at all and then Mystra would claim his soul and then they'd chill in the afterlife or whatever.
>>560062590i have, but I always skip it now
>>560062590This is like one of the most famous hidden scenes, anon. It's the source of the Dark Urge's >Blood. Blood. Blood. Blood. Blood.
>>560062725>then Mystra would claim his soul
I like killing Tieflings
>>560062590Nah, I see it pretty much every playthrough, since I always take the first night right after the brains on the beach/nautiloid.
>>560062585We add minthara to the mix
>>560063150>>560063150>>560063150
>>560060896And what's stopping him from using it at the end of the journey?
>>560018387>>560018768>>560019314https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/5315?tab=filesYou're welcum Anons
