Yesterday's News Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-217955>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>559932812
>le balanced negress of card throwing
Shipping
Revert this patch entirely.
Pocket is a cute enbie
>trying out miku>sweaty yam+lash duo>both wait for me to ult in teamfights>they in turn dive and ult me>do this 3 times>team is kinda dooky>dont want to but I have to hide out during team fights now and wait for their ults>rat.jpeg>long team fight but finally hear their ults>emerge out of a jukebox and teamwipe with ult>take mid and rape them again and their patron that win felt so fucking GOOD because of those two fagsMcG is so busted rn
>Silver who could be countered by holding S and buying Slowing Hex got a hotfix nerf and then another nerf in the span of a week>Zero reaction from Valve towards any of the bullshitbuffed niggersSo there are Victor and Calico mains on the balance team, right?
>>559962332no one likes silver
>before patch>game is shit old heroes are weak new are too strong yoshi is retarded for not releasing balance patch>post-patch>wtf game used to be perfect it's shit now why would yoshi make a balance patch is he retarded???curious how this works
Merc Mag or Boundless on Vindicta? assuming only one. Also, does Merc Mag scale with her extra gun damage?
How do I even lane as Pocket rn
>>559962332>Victorthe women probably think he is hot>Calicobuffed because the pros weren't using her and then started shit talking each other with her
>Graves: "Completing some eldritch ritual beats finishing my paper on Wuthering Heights.">Paige also mentions the Wuthering Heights author in her voice linesThis is calculated bait for "twinnnn she literally me" foids right?
Say, when it comes to who's harder to play and who's more rewarded for hitting their shots who wins? Viscous or Sinclair?
>>559962462It's the only period book the author has actually read
>he plays calico>he plays paige>he plays ivy>he plays wraith>he plays celeste>he plays seven>he plays victor>he plays gay talon>he plays billy>he doesn't play sinclair>he doesn't play viscous>he doesn't play doorman >he doesn't play drifter>he doesn't play shiv
>>559962505Do not question the cube
You shouldn't have PUSHED ME>*turns into a massive fucking big head melee creep*>*leaps on you and does 300 damage with full combo*>*gets m1'd down and dies*AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>559962645love to see it KEK
>>559962505both splatter and goo punch are basically instant while having giant aoes
Why does the balancing team love the ebony girls? Feels like we can't go two patches without Calico and Wraith being oppressive rapistsWith how much work they put into Calico you'd think they'd give her a new model already?
>>559962817they should give calico back her mystic cat towers
Does Mina shave? or does she keep it hairy?
>>559962817Because black queens need their BWC quota.
>>559962817ebony girls are hot simple as.
>>559962969hair stopped growing there
let's see if this eternus lobby can win against victor OH LOOKS LIKE VICTOR WINS
>>559962969Literlly ALL the girls are hairy. Except maybe Celeste.It's the 1940s, only prostitutes and nuns shaved
>>559963072I'm noticing something else there on the other team that might be affecting the outcome of the match...
What the fuck is the build for Silver? if i try to build around having them stick with me then i lack CC. If i build damage then they just run and i cannot catch up.
>>559963072why dont you play the game
gay sex with apollo
>>559963201Because if you do that, then you get told your anecdotal experience is a skill issueBy pointing out the failings of those better than both you and the resident downplayers, you sidestep the issue
I don't think I understand the funy shiv knife buildI tried it and I was only kinda tickling people lategame
What if they added a character who was fun?
>>559963134getting lost in Silver's amazon rainforest...
>team that has more of the new heroes loseshttps://youtu.be/90WD_ats6eE?si=h2s-ZmSee5tkVX20
the fuck am I even supposed to do here outside of afk farming in fountain and waiting for the game to end?
>>559963201>this one does not count because (you) were not playingconcession accepted, lmao
>>559963306>funy shiv knife buildIf its anything like it used to be, you just want escalating exposure and boundless for it since its a dot.
I swear every match has a designated feeder. There's always one dude, be it on my team or the enemy's, that just feeds the fuck out of the opposition and singlehandedly causes their team to lose. There's gotta be an invisible stat somewhere that marks them down as the match retard.
>>559963419Why did literally everyone in this game name themselves after their hero wtf
six months from now when new balance patch hits people will be saying that current meta was soulful and the best and new meta is shit and ruined the game.
I fucking hate unstable concoction so much, every time one of my dumbshit teammates gets it know we'll lose because they insist on spamming it. They'll be full HP and hit the stupid "commit suicide for 500 damage" button
>playing against viscous in lane>buy rebuttal first item>he never tries to puddle punch me againkwab
>it takes FIVE of us to kill a niggerlicious abramsAnd god forbid the nigger corner you>DUUUH JUST PARRY>stun slams you >punches>stun slams you>punches>dead
>>559963737There's never been a time were Abrams was weakBullshit ape hero
Butterscotch!
What's the best CC item to keep enemies inside Haze's ult? Even when I use it on a single target, they always seem to just dash jump out. Maybe I'm using it on people with too much remaining health?
>>559963848
put me out of my fucking misery
>Yeah guys we'll do regular number adjustments after this patch, of course>They give Wraith the most meaningless slap on the wrist >Nothing sinceJesus fucking christ how hard is it to cut the numbers on all the retarded buffs you handed out what are they doing.
>>559962969>does mina shaveyes because she is dumb, all the female heroes are hairy the top two being silver and mcginnis
>>559963816cute pokie
What build are you guys doing on Silver?
i love it when characters that are obviously broken and making games worse do not receive any nerfs or hotfixes!!!Fuck You Yoshi!!!!
>finally get the hero I want>potato PC russian can't connect
>>559964397Ring of Reroll
ok this patch is fucking unplayable, Calico participates in a couple of kills and shit instantly gets out of control, it doesn't help that Doorman can literally do nothing all game and still win because le funny ult with no cooldown. this shit isn't fun, you already know the team that has Calico in it will win even if she goes 0/5/0 in lane, Ivy, Wraith and Victor being a massive pain in the ass doesn't help
BLEED
>>559964489>le funny ult with no cooldown>he failed to do simple movementoh nyo
What the fuck, Ivy...?
>>559964591>slowing hexes you
>>559964637surely you have dispell magic or divine barrier? :)
>>559964637You can complete the hotel with no stamina while slowing hexed on any character
>>559964615oh is ivy why the entire floor i brool was brown mud?
And a graves I drew last month
>>559964096At least the Wraith appears to be retarded
>>559962135Tried playing her after patch and she legit felt bottom 1 Just closed the game after that what the fuck did they do
>>559964690proof ?
>>559964735are you colorblind?
>>559964735Yeah from the last patch there's been a bug where certain ground effect textures just don't disappear once they're doneI noticed it with Lash ult only, but now it seems it's growing to affect other spells
>teammate seven going 0/11>opens mic for the first time mid game>hear a woman
>try scroll wheel jump>keep mantling up walls
>>559964768she looks rad
>Vin, Wrath, Haze = selected>aimbot = on>serverselect = US onlyхyй cocитe хaхaхaхa)))
>>559964919ty
>>559964849yeah
fuck it, I'll start rushing Locket when there's a Doorman on the other team
>>559964768Pretty nice drawing anon
>Want to mess around with ultmaxxing Graves on /currentpatch/>Get a Grey Talon lane partner>He runs in and dies before first creep wave arrives>He ziplines in Lv1 while everyone is Lv2 and dies again>Finally he buys Golden Goose Egg>Fights while tanking enemy creep wave and dies again>He doesn't buy anything other than Golden Goose EggI might uninstall. Not to be whiny or anything but I think it's acceptable for a game to have shitty matchmaking if the gameplay is fun, but this patch the gameplay definitely feels worse while the matchmaking is still blatantly broken. Fresh install behavior in Oracle 1.
>russian runs it down 0 10>FOOKING AMERICAN WHY YOU FARM, IN MOTHER RUSSIA WE PLAY AGGRESSIVE WHY YOU SO PASSIVE MOTHERFUCKER
Buffs soon.Hold tight, packmates. We're gonna make it.
>>559963285>>559963427so you dont want to play the game
Need Graves Apollo angst
>>559965108eggGOD
>>559965108I have not seen a single gold egg buyer do good, its always some 0/10 trash sitting on it all game
>>559965223I don't think I said that at all, actually.
>>559965223I am waiting for a game to pop right now. move on to next goalpost chuddy
It feels like every character builds spirit.Holliday has a revolver and a headshot ability, you think it would be gun? No, use spirit for the barrel.Lash, movement character, seems like he'd focus on his gun. Nope, build spirit and hit them with his 1 and 3.Ivy? Spirit for her kudzu and statue.Which characters will typically build gun over spirit? (Other than the obvious gun carries like Venator, Haze, Wraith, and Seven?)
Belly rubs
>>559964615uh oh.... stinky!
>>559965516why the fuck would lash build gun?
>>559965516Every character building spirit burn and reverb is balanced o algo
every single fucking game now boils down to a>calico>victor>mo krill>wraithsnowballing and sucking every bit of fun out of the game, instantly winning the match for the team they're on. this patch is fucking horrendous holy shit
It was over before it even fucking began, fuck this shit
>>559965623from the insidegiven by me
>>559965719lash could scale with melee I don't think he'd be super insane overpoweredthe only reason people are complaining about viscous is because for some unholy reason they decided to make puddle punch which already had a perfectly fine range the size of your entire mid lane
>>559965719Lash doesn't sling spells. It looks like he's a physical damage kind of guy. But no, he builds spirit.Why even have orange items when every character's build is green, purple, and a single orange? What's the point?
>>559965935fuck g-man and his suitcase bullshit
>>559964828I practiced it a bunch with a friend
>>559965935holy shit its freeman
>>559965935Why don't you shitters ever show your team and your own performance
>>559966045take a wild guess at how well we did retard
>>559965719>muscular dude>pit fighter>make him scale off sissy statyup that makes sense.
well you wanted a spirit meta
Please remove Victor from the game. No one has every enjoyed playing against this character, hell no one has probably even enjoyed playing as him beyond the fact that he's OP as shit and stomps pubs. He just walks towards you and wins the game.
>>559966175The way I see it is not 'spirit' as magic but willpower.
How do you get better at chasing down enemies that are low on health?
>>559965978nigga you should realize that ability-focused characters use spirit in this mystical occultic game rather than focusing on their gun onlyif every hero was a m1gger then it'd be a boring fucking game, wouldn't it?
Imagine having a big werewolf gf who is completely useless and can't even protect you in a fight
Why does Ivy wear clothes
>>559966327Then why are 1/3 of the items orange when no one fucking uses them? Arguably it's boring this way.
Calico just turns the match into a horror game, I refuse to farm unless I know she's on the other side of the map.
I want a crazy cultist hero who is competing in the ritual to get a wish so he can summon his Lovecraftian god (and get a wish)
>>559966402>when no one fucking uses them?have you even looked at the roster of this game?
>>559966239When retards say>i want spirit metawhat they actually mean is>I keep dying to gun and it makes me madnow they are dying to spirit and they are just as mad
>>559966402everyone splashes gun with like 5 exceptionsdont be a sperg
>>559966354Style.
>>559966354she'd be too distracting if she didn't
>>559966438That's what I'm trying to ask. All the characters I try to pick up build spirit, even when they don't look 'magically inclined'.Which characters typically build gun damage?The only ones I've noted are Venator, Haze, Wraith, and Seven. That's only like 4/38 though. Is it really just that uncommon?
>>559966354it would be too distracting if she was nude, it's a balancing decision
>>559966615>Which characters typically build gun damage?if you want pure gun, then some obvious picks are going to be Venator, Haze, Silver kind of characters who either have abilities that scale off of weapon damage or have passives that focus on their gun primarilyyou'll want greens of course too, unless you want to die in 1s; but splashing purple can still be useful depending on the kit
>>559962434This might sound controversial but I like this patcht. Abrams and Mo main
>>559966404That's when you end up with half of your team just dedicated to hunting down Calico and keeping her dead
>>559966615You're seeing things black and white.Nothing stops you from getting mystic shot and spirit overflow (gun items btw) to complement your build, and someone like Vyper doesn't usually build much mystic because her skills are tools to chase down and execute enemies.
>>559966354You would see her butthole smashing down on you in stone form.
>Slowly but surely climbing through Emissary>Notice most of my games have started with lvl1 burgerboxing>Archon lobbiesDoes it get worse on the higher ranks? People are so fucking aggressive at the start it's insane.
>>559963848Slowing hexCapacitorWarpstoneI saw a haze build weighted shots as well but I'm not sure that's worth it when you'll just go unstop anyway.
>>559966689I want to lick every skin cell packed in those thighs
>>559966925I have no idea how to play against aggressive people
>>559965235He'll be fine just gotta wait 20 seconds
>on a harsh losing streak where most of the games 2 people on our team go 0/15>fuck it, I'm gonna play a bullshit cheap as fuck character>queue up as paige>win>and my team isn't too retarded this timefuck playing fair or trying weird builds, I'm gonna be cheap for a little while
playing a game with silver on my team vs ivy on theirs and watching my wives fight
>>559966925If burgerboxing means aggressive play, then yes it generally gets more aggressive the higher you go. You can't really secure a lead playing passively, it's something you only do if you are forced to.
>>559967142But the emotional damage will never heal
>ivy is as tall as graves
>decide to look into aim training programs to fix my retarded ineptitude>discover most competent players have their sensitivity at like 70cm/360how the flying fuck do they play games without sweeping shit off their desk
>>559965235>>559967254Apollo's eyes are getting heavy...
How would you fix Silver in the current power creep economy?
>>559965108Every game i played today was decided by the matchmaker its awful, just a lottery of who gets the backbreaking uncarryable dead weight
>>559967402I would actually just nerf the niggers, doormat and Celeste and call it a day.
>dislocated my left thumbHero I can play?
>>559967402>chink runes
Yoshi, dinosaur nigger. Can i enjoy Silver ffs? Why you have to make 80% of the roster worthless af.
>>559967496Kelvin
>Holliday deals like 120 damage per barrel early game>doorman deals 400+ with each bellJust why.... in lane if i get hit with one then i'm almost dead, if i hit someone with a barrel they just shake it off. How is this shitty game balanced at all in anyones eyes?
>>559967362don't have a bunch of empty beer cans on your deskt. 1ft/360
>>559967402revert the nerfsthen buff the counter items
>>559967362i don't know where you're getting your info from but that's blatantly wrong, most aimgods skew higher and faster sensitivities around around 30 cm/360 generally speaking, especially for moba shooters and hero shooters. the truly sick in the head aimtrannies are usually around 20 cm/360 with their 15g fingertip grip mice doing 360s in 0.001 seconds but a safe range is 30-40
>>559966354Because Ivy was a dude at first, before they changed VA's, and he needed to hide his huge dong in those pants
>>559967857I have 0.36 at 1600, I don't know if that's good enough
>>559967341makes sense gargoyles aren't tallnow holliday being almost as small as graves is surprising, how am i supposed to take that sheriff seriously when i have to look down at her
>>559967362Most m1 players are on like 40-50cm/360.
has rusted barrel ever turned a game around
>>559967254>>559967387if the story doesn't move with them going to prom i swear...
>>559967927yeah that's good just keep aiming and practicing with voltaic benchmarks if you really want to go hard at it (don't know if there are any better ones as of late since i haven't done aimlabs in years)
>>559967653You're supposed to build Split Shot on her to deal 1200 damage per barrel early game
>>559968201has any 800 item turned a game around
>>559967402I wouldn't, the fags crying about the changes want her to be like hitlerman who rapes people in his hotel
Deadlock needs a taunt button.
>vortex web throws an octopuswtf since when
>>559968201Has any single item ever turned a game around?
>>559968273Mystic burst for mo and melee lifesteal for melee characters can turn around lanesAnd of course the god of 800 items, rebuttal.
I thought the cube was supposed to stop doorman's ult from happening on you that was a fucking lie
which dead would you lock
>>559967402revert her to release state. She was OP against powercrept heroes, but now that everyone is broken she would be on their level.
>>559968483you avoid the damage and stun but you're not checking out
>be vindicta>teamfight in cqc area>forced to watch in the cuck chair
>>559967402Probably nerf the slamfire a little and call it good
>>559968391kill yourself tf2tranny
>actually getting infinite ammo ass an m1ggerits so fun to just hold down m1 and spray
is marathon fun solo /dlg/... or is it friendslop only...
>>559967653>plays a character that didn't get any buffs because she's gonna get full rework>surprised she's shit
>>559968391next update
>>559968663Go ask in the Marathon general
>blood tribute burst fire point blank
>gay talon farms the whole lobby>I'm the only one with knockdownwhy is this so common?
>>559967857I'm running at 6cm/360Much higher and I have to start using my arm for minor adjustments
>>559968663It is not fun solo unless you are a turbosweat or a camping rat.
when is deadlock getting its own site? reading the update notes on steam is a pain
>>559968391>play of the game system in the works>taunt during the replay
>>559968797Valve doesn't have the money for a new site because they're getting sued from all directions by Rothschilds minions
>>559968725STREAKER ON THE LOOSE
>>559968703>ask the miserable designated shilling street generalno thanks>>559968776that's all i needed to hear thanks bro
Attention! I am hereby renaming Infernus to Nigfernus. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
>trying to learn haze>decide I'm going to fuck up a lot and I need to focus on my gameplay without listening to maggots bitch at me>mute all and just play>end up in a lane with a calico>throughout the lane they play hyper aggressive>I'm able to secure like 5 kills without dying>they die several times in lane trying to secure deep kills>more than once I see an enemy limp away with 1 hp as the Calico dies>their VC icon keeps lighting up>at one point they commend me (didn't even know it was possible)>I can tell they're violently seething but I can't hear themwe lost in the end but all I can think is how fucking miserable that game would have been if I had to spend 40 minutes listening to some faggot pissing in my ear
>>559969165Infernog rolls better off my tongue.
>>559968682>full reworklmao
>>559969319The only reason Calico winrate isn't at 70% is because of all the shitters who hear she's strong and then play her like a retarded chimp doing suicidal dives all game
trophy collector is so insane
>>559969506Okay, not full rework but at least Wraith tier rework. She's gonna receive updates along with other heroes that were left untouched this patch
>>559966615 (me)Alright this is what I'm talking with for itemshttps://tracklock.gg/itemsSorting by pick rates, the first orange item is 18th on the list, and it's tier 1. When you only look at the items above tier 1, the first orange item is 22nd (Even though there are less total items since it's excluding tier 1!)In total, orange items just aren't used much at all compared to purple and green. Sure they're used, and sure they're vital in many builds, but they just aren't used nearly as much.It just bugs me a bit. I expected it would be somewhat balanced usage rates and it isn't.
>>559965516Holliday built gun like 3 months ago and it was gay, annoying, retarded, unfun to play against so they nerfed it. Of course now we're in a meta where all the spirit characters are gay, annoying, retarded, unfun to play against.
>Ivy lost her ult knock up>lost her bonus kudzu duration and aoe>stun duration bonus requires final upgrade now>only real plus is her kudzu immobilizes, but who caresI still did the most hero and objective damage, but it's faaaaaaaaaaaaar less fun now. I'm upsetti
>>559969801spirit is great early gamegun scales late gamewao
>>559969801
After all the bitching I do about dogshit teammates and retards that lose the walkers before the 10 minute mark, I feel even worse about sucking shit and getting assfucked in laneAdmittingly the rest of my team did just as bad, but it hurts knowing I was the fuckup this time
how do i play carries in pubs where people are just rammed down mid team fighting all game? i need to farm to not be useless but im screwing over my team by not being in their constant retard fights
>>559969972
does streetbrawl affect your rank? doesn't seem like it
>Win three games in a row>Do well in all of them>One MVP, two key player>fourth game>Get the most retarded drooling teammates imaginable>Despite it being a higher ranked gameThis game's matchmaking is so fucking awful. They really do need to just do a hard-reset and let everyone start from Initiate.
>>559970051Farm when ult is down, go to teamfight when ult is up. Don't bother "holding" your ult for an optimal play and just chimpyeet it when you can. For example>Farm some shit as Haze for 2 minutes>Ult is back so go mid>Ult the first nigger you get your hands on>Go back to farming
>doorman bell>victor battery>wraith ult>wraith cards>viscous punch>calico claws giving free money for playing the game nornallywhat the hell is wrong with the devs' brains? why did they think these changes were good enough to push live? this game is in such bad hands
>>559970297Vindicta has ghost ovaries. If you cum inside her your sperm will desperately try to ram themselves against her egg again and again to no avail before withering and drying in her dead womb.
>>559970297>gets mad when he has retards on his team>wants everyone be in the same rankDumbest post ever award
>>559970298that's a useful way to look at it actually, thanks anon
>>559970256no, not at all
>>559963359cute :3
>>559970392Is there anything about this patch that anyone actually likes? I think the doorman changes were nice and that's about it
>>559970392Doorman is so fucking weird>His cart hitbox and ult location indicator were BUGGED>Devs fix the cart hitbox BUG but think of it as a BUFF (because their fix was just making the hitbox large enough to match the visual the way it should have been)>So they remove the spirit scaling from the wallstun>But because they remove that scaling they feel like compensating him elsewhere>Compensate by giving him more bell damage>His ult location BUG is fixed>A-posing enemy outline now correctly matches where they will reappear after leaving the Baroness>For some reason the devs' mindset is reversed here>No need for compensatory nerfs>Instead give it a huge buff because ???Completely clueless retard nigger Yoshi should be dragged out into the streets and lynched by an angry crowd
>>559970430The difference is there is guaranteed other retards on the other team. People who deserve to be higher rank will be and will easily pull ahead. While the people who keep getting boosted up will stay low rank.
>>559969661trophy collector is cursed for meany time I get it, it turns into the most shitty worthless no-impact game imaginable
>>559967402Nerf slamfire a bitRevert ult and wolf abilities to their release stateMake it slightly easier to get into ult, but put a cap on amount of ult charge she can gain per secondWolf form t5 upgrade now only refreshes duration by up to 50%, all its other effects unchangedBam, done
>>559963359It took me a while to figure out why the lich hand was on Graves' shoulder but once I figured out it's supposed to be hanging on for dear life (and the artist just didn't have the skill to portray the motion that well) the pic went from a 6/10 to a 9/10 for me
>>559970614>>Instead give it a huge buff because ???its prob a result of them seeing stats on people not caring about escaping the hotel in time and just using a means of disjointing or absorbing the damage for free
>>559963359Is Apollo x graves promoting racemixing
doorman bells are so disgustingly overpowered in lane h holy shit, you just completely dogwalk the enemy if you know how to use them (especially with doors)
>>559969880The ult feels terrible.now. i csn even secire the full combo anymore
>>559970406You can punch vindicta. So can my sperm against her egg.Expect danny phantom hero.
>>559970297>They really do need to just do a hard-reset and let everyone start from Initiate.yeah that's called deadlock 1.0
>>559970774I didn't even bother attempting it anymore. Just gonna drop the hero for now.
This patch may just be the worst moba experience I've ever had to endure in my life. Skill expression is out the window, fuck it man, just do whatever you want, pick your flavor of retarded braindead shit and just farm it out until you can walk at people and just win!I sure do love playing against Wraith, MnK, Calico, Doorman, McG, Ivy, and all other forms of serious cancer every game! So fun!
WHERE YOU GOIN FRIEEEND?
>>559969972>people who are about to win the game are 50k ahead on souls and splurge on unimportant expensive items to fill out their buildWin rate is a particularly useless statistic with high tier items.
>>559967402Nerf her human form and buff her werewolf form, primarily with resists and giving one/two staminaThis game favors ranged characters heavily, that is the real problem with her ult. It forces her into a disadvantage, because she need to get up close when everyone has guns.People don't talk about this. But the real counterbuy for Silver always was stamina mastery. You just parkour or get on the rope, you just keep the distance and she can't do anything, she only has one skill with huge fool down to narrow the distance.
>>559970662 (Me)Oh, and swap wolf form t1 and t2, almost forgotShe should get 30% resist in wolf form total, but she should get it later rather than sooner so she can't just dive tower easily as soon as she unlocks it and puts a point
>Victor: Pain Battery T3 reduced from 18% Missing Health to 15%>Victor: Jumpstart T3 spirit scaling reduced from 0.8 to 0.6>Victor: Aura of Suffering can now be activated on the zipline>Victor: Aura of Suffering radius reduced from 10m to 9.5m>Victor: Aura of Suffering Base and T2 Max DPS and scaling reduced by 10%>Victor: Shocking Reanimation cooldown increased from 190s to 210s>Victor: Shocking Reanimation T3 increased from -50s Cooldown to -70sthoughts
Is this the first time where the patch was genuinely ass and everyone agrees on it
It's like night and day with all these heroes. You either have the broken ones or the shitty ones. In all my life in all the mobas i've played there was literally nothing like this.I'm really losing hope in this game if it's going to be like this.
Just got a 5 stack with 3 eternus players on it vs my team of phantomsSorry but what is the counterplay here?
>>559971117Just keep it simple and give her buffs across the board.I don't play Silver but she should be OP because she is a cute wolfgirl. That's all the reason you need.
>Don't know anything about Deadlock>Diamond in League but the skills aren't transferrable despite similar game ideas>Get told to use a public build for characters>Oh cool snake girl I like her attitude>Play 2 AI matches, don't know what's going on but win>Fall in love with snekI will learn this game with this snek
>>559970579If you blank out the numbers I think pretty much every change is good except Calico getting extra souls on kill and Wraith's ult doing so much, it's just everything does way too much damage or has too big an AoE. I play Viscous and I don't think he needs walker-sized punches.
>>559971226You're gonna suffer trying that in this patch but godspeed leaguebab
>>559971145>Victor: temporarily disabled while awaiting full scale gameplay reworkPatch note from a better timeline
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/#post-220287
Celeste: Shining Wonder no longer refunds half cooldown on missCeleste: Shining Wonder no longer refunds half cooldown on missCeleste: Shining Wonder no longer refunds half cooldown on missCeleste: Shining Wonder no longer refunds half cooldown on missCeleste: Shining Wonder no longer refunds half cooldown on miss
>>559971165The only other time was like 7 months ago when bullet meta was in full force and Warden, Haze and other m1 faggots would just hardcore rape once they hit a soul threshold. This is way fucking worse than that man. Comeback mechanics combined with weaker first walkers and all the other shit they did just results in assrape you cannot stop. At least then they had fucking metal skin to stop that shit, no amount of spirit resist is going to stop wraith or calico with 34k+ souls from just walking at you alone and raping you to death.
>friends keep losing in lane and feeding>it's been like 100 games and they still don't understand that dying makes the enemy stronger
>>559971294Ya I heard some trannies were crying about le balance on >twitter. Troons cry about balance in every game especially League thougheverChamps in league become """UNPLAYABLE GET CANCER RIOT""" after one patch and remain terrorist hitler picks regardlessSnek is fun, snek is hot, snek life
>Zipline can now be captured a little bit more forward towards the enemy baseWhat the hell does this even mean
>- Golden Goose Egg: souls per buff improved from every 200 souls to every 150PUMP IS HEREBUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY
>>559971421it means when your waves are pushed to their base the zipline extends further in
>>559971226The skills are transferable. You can climb to the Deadlock equivalent of Diamond by just having good macro. In maybe 85% of matches below Phantom, people will braindead perma-brawl in mid(think ARAM) and take small breaks to farm jungle before going back at the moshpitIf you keep yellow and green perma-pushed you can soft carry by giving your team 2 item slots while denying them to the enemy team. And then when you're giga farmed, go to teamfights and press 4Pick a good ultbot like Haze, Victor, etc and lanejanny your way to Deadlock Diamond
>egg buffedBUY BUY BUY
>bell scaling and impact revertedlol
trannies nuking the forums rn
>>559971520They should have kept the scaling but not the base damage, or split some of the scaling to T3 so it doesn't become disgusting so early
Ivy wasn't fun beforeNow they made the ult worseShe's just not fun at all man cmon now
>- Shiv: Alt fire knockback increased by 10%>- Shiv: Serrated Knives cooldown increased from 16s to 18s>- Shiv: Killing Blow range increased from 13m to 18m>- Shiv: Killing Blow travel speed increased a bituhh shivbros?
>>559971489Ya I'm just in the baby steps portion of learning like how does laning work, what do items do, what are the neutral objectives, when can I fight / when shouldn't I fight, yadda yaddaI just wanna get real comfortable before I actually play against peopleVyper redesign when
How the fuck do I end the game on Mina? People just pick shit like infernus, billy, haze, and venator and click on me better.
>>559970297i wish vindicta had more art i'm tempted to just do it myself since people focus more on the new heroes
>Calico: Move speed reduced from 7.2 to 6.8>Calico: Fixed Gloom Bombs T2 giving an extra +15 flat bonus (released a couple days ago)>Calico: Leaping Slash scaling reduced from 1.5 to 1.2>Calico: Leaping Slash T2 reduced from 300 Souls to 225calico barely got nerfed, she'll still be oppressive and overpowered>Doorman: Call Bell now has Impact Damage (40+1) and Explosion Damage (55+1.7) as separate components again (previous values for impact/explosion)>Doorman: Call Bell T2 is now "+30 Impact Damage and +40 Explosion Damage">Doorman: Call Bell T3 now also increases slow by 15%doorman barely got nerfed as well>Victor: Pain Battery T3 reduced from 18% Missing Health to 15%>Victor: Jumpstart T3 spirit scaling reduced from 0.8 to 0.6>Victor: Aura of Suffering can now be activated on the zipline>Victor: Aura of Suffering radius reduced from 10m to 9.5m>Victor: Aura of Suffering Base and T2 Max DPS and scaling reduced by 10%>Victor: Shocking Reanimation cooldown increased from 190s to 210s>Victor: Shocking Reanimation T3 increased from -50s Cooldown to -70syet again barely any meaningful nerfs that'll impact victor being overpoweredwhat an absolutely fucking nigger developer with no clue what to do
>Silver buffsWe fucking won.
>Shiv: Killing Blow range increased from 13m to 18m>Shiv: Killing Blow travel speed increased a bitAH TRIED TA BE NICE
>Shit we fucked up by making everything do too much damage, what do we do>I know, we make everyone tanky as fuck insteadEXECUTE THIS NIGGER
>>559971145Just gut all his damage numbers and buff all his healing numbers and it's problem solved.
>>559967362You only really see that in tac shooters like CS and even then it's on the low end. Games like this are more like 50 at most because headshots and pixel peeks aren't nearly as important and you need to keep up with shit like Mina teleporting behind you with bats.
>>559971703This is going to fuck so much shit up
>>559970406nah my swimmers will manage to knock her up and we will live away from new york in peace
>>559971671do it anon, it's really fun drawing characters you likei draw a lot of victor
Lmao jesus christ this doesn't fix anything
>>559971676WHERE ARE THE FUCKING WRAITH NERFS.NOW!
>>559971683>Lycan Curse cooldown reduced from 50s to 40s>Lycan Curse T1 increased from 15% Resists to 18%I don't know if this is anything to awoooo about...
>>559971703ttk was retarded even before the patchit'll be a good change (except for abrams, mo and shiv who are now going to run the game)
>Added Shiv's alt Neon Prime movesetWHAT THE FUCK
>abrams waddles around like a fucking retard>is totally unkillablek
>>559970406there is one anon in this general really obsessed with vindicta not being able to have babies
>doorman barely even touchedhope retarded muslim faggot yoshi gets thrown into a pit by ICE
the big balance patch and the subsequent patches have confirmed that icefrogyoshi and his companions are actual fucking subhuman cucks that love watching their wives get fucked by big black cocks
>>559971451kek egg stocks unironically keep rising
>>559971165Yes i usually think you guys and the redditors are all just shitters just its genuinely not.fun playing half the cast right now.
>base guardian health REDUCED by 25%what the fuck?
McGinnis nerfs when? It's laughable people complain about Doorman when this bitch gets a fucking safe barrage of nukes. Giving McGinnis that much power is fucking retarded
>Doorman gets buffed>49% winrate all ranks, 50.6% winrate at Eternus>Reddit cries nonstop about his bells and gets him nerfedI've never seen a balance team with this little agency. It's like they get all their balance ideas from listening to pro league streamer interviews and Reddit comments. Absolutely obscene. Once people catch on that the devs are this obedient to psyops(and they are already catching on) we're going to see hero mains form lobbying groups like never before.
>manage to kill half of enemy team>ping several times to go mid>take down mid boss and rejuv is spawning>retarded 1/13 Viscous on my team has the brillant idea of spamming goo punch over it and knock us back>rest of the enemy team swoops in, 14/3 Doorman casts vortex web and they steal rejuv>they wipe 4 of us>mfw half of the team ragequits and I just wait on base until the match endsIts been quite a while since I wanted to grab someone by their throat over the screen and squeeze the life out of them in the slowest and painful way possible
>>559971963you WILL play lane janny and you WILL like it
>>55997196412 minutes ago, retard
>>559971976doorman didn't get nerfed
>>559971976His new bell was braindead and overpowered, get bent kek
>>559971976its bizarre, he wasnt even S tier even with the buffs
>>559971976mister doesn't read the patch notes
>Remove Lash's ult range scaling with spirit>Add it back not even a week laterWhat were they thinking
I don't know what happened but i´ve never seen an infernus lose since 2 patches ago. Literally never. They always melt whoever is on the other side of the lane and just stomp from there.
>>559971976I remember some fag made a subreddit dedicated to Mo and Krill and nobody joined
>>559971340>bells do impact againwe're so back with door cart shenanigens
>>559971703I'm eating good
>>559971840oh yea i forgot when he had lifestealer ult
how do I get matchmaking to only put me in lobbies with 0 banned heroes? I don't want to play with crybabies. should also be a random champ mode instead of this cucked pick 3 + priority shit
>>559971976Keep in mind this same patch buffs EVERYONE to have more survivability so all damage dealt is already nerfed indirectly.
>>559971976he was buffed but players still try to play him as an assassin for some reason if they used him to be insufferable in team fights he'd see much more success, tired of seeing my doorman wait to waste ult on someone already dead but at least I know when it's the enemy doorman bullying me in lane he isn't going to do anything later
need to derank, what are some fun builds that will definitely not win me games
>- Calico: Leaping Slash T2 reduced from 300 Souls to 225THAT'S NOT THE POINTWHY SHOULD SHE GET FREE SOULS FOR NOTHING???
>>559972183Flaskmaxxing warden
>>559972183Melee Vindicta
>>559972183Wraith gun/spirit hybrid, Doorman all in on bells, ult McGinnis, spirit Calico, Heresy's Victor build.
I think it's funny how frequently they revert changes. They're absolutely fucking stupid. What happened to valve? They didn't do reverts that often with Dota and that has like triple the roster.
I don't care how much they tweak the numbers. Wraith's new ult is still OP from a conceptual level. Either make it reactable or get rid of the throw.
>>559972001Oh shit really? I'm in a game where this McGinnis is just killing us all with her ult.
>>559972183Turretmaxxing on ginnis>Transcendent Cooldown>Duration Extender>Range Extender>Rapid Recharge>Refresher>Echo Shardand then Diviners Kevlar and Magic Carpet just to pump up ability duration even more. Litter the entire map with turrets and make the enemy seethe
>>559971976I've laned against like 5 doormans now and bell is absolutely oppressive early game with how much damage they deal in regard to their large hitboxes and low cooldown.
>no Graves changesPerfectly balanced and honest character
>Celeste: Shining Wonder no longer refunds half cooldown on misstook you long enough to remove this nonsense>Pocket: Affliction T3 DPS increased from 16+0.1 to 18+0.11he doesn't need this buff, remove the 100% anti heal already
bruh wtf are these "fixes" lol did they replace the entire dev team with monkeys or something
>>559972183someone post that one rem build that went 0-27 with crushing fists and glass cannon
>>559972268Hoopoooo nigger is used to singleplayer games where you make everything retarded. He facewalled the reality of PvP games.
>bell impacts are back Nice. It was actually fun to have to aim them a little
>>559972302i want her to get buffed
Lady Gyatt
>>559972309>he expects the dev team to catch every mathematical error in a videogame on a giant rushed out patchif you look hard enough the game is probably riddled with more math bugs
do they want to indirectly lower ttk by making the egg so good everyone is holding one?
>>559972302Genuinely needs buffs now. She got nerfed too hard immediately after release when no one knew how to counter her, now everyone knows how to deal with skulls, wall and the tombstone.
>>559971976>bells were strong early and then fall off later>now they're weaker early game unless you can land impact hits every time>everyone has more hp now as wellEh. At least the rest of the new kit changes remain.
>forum not happy>discord not happy>plebbit not happy>4chud not happy>streamers not happyworst patch in deadlock history
>>559972393I want her ass to get buffed
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1roy5o7/rest_in_peace_my_pocket_he_got_hit_by_a_bazooka/>Devs devs the Doorman killed my 10% hp Pocket who greeded and overstayed in lane>Nerf this 49% winrate hero NOWWWWWWWW
>>559971820 - Vitality investment bonuses increased by 12%this is a Silver buff too since we buy greens anyway.
>>559972452increase*it's late
They should just revert the last big patch completely and start from there again
>Victor BARELY touched>Doorman, Wraith, Calico, and Celeste nuked from orbitUh...
IMO doorman has so much disruption that I think he should have less than stellar damage.
>>559972473people get caught by the wall during teamfights and i still see people in high ranks walk backwards into it too and the tombstone still works well during teamfighting and for pushing a lane but the skulls are very easily counterable if the enemy has any iq and knows to instaburst them down before they become an issue, i think they need to give her both gun buffs and spirit buffs or tune the skulls differently in terms of how they do damage and how they tank damage (currently they don't tank damage)
>>559972394>female deadlock heroes with big butts in orderSilver (forma loba)GeistVindictaPaigeMinaHazeWraith
>50 threads of complaints about new buffs>now it's going to be 50 threads of complaints about nerfszzzzzzz
>Celeste: Gravity from 28% to 25% (was 20% previous patch)>Celeste: Air Control increased from 38% to 44% (was 50% previous patch)Are you fucking STUPID?
>>559972487>Pocket whining about getting killedOne of the most unkillable slippery fucking faggot characters has the gall to complain about this
>>559971643BLEED
>Doorman: Call Bell T3 now also increases slow by 15%
>>559972487Its bizarre checking the deadlock sub's frontpage and seeing zero mentions of Victor despite Victor being the best pick in the game at every single rank. How does zombie boy do it?
>>559972584Why nerf Victor at all though?
>>559972183Gun Viscous
Shiv status?
>>559972682nah there's actually been a lot of victor posts that get popular it's just that there's a metric fuckton of victor downplayers there too just like the resident victor trannies in /dlg/
>>559972643He actually walks forwards and eats more M1 damage before dying to the bell
>>559971876in fact, his bell does even more damage nowbut they don't blow each other up any more, sadly
>>559972642Doesn't the barrier spirit scaling and light eater nerf kill her?
>be haze>ult somebody>the enemy is now taking slightly more damage than me just holding m1 over their face (assuming they're alone)>they dash one (1) time>they are no longer taking any damage>2 minute cooldownso can somebody explain to me the galaxy brain logic behind why this isn't one of the shittiest ults in the game
You're all about to have a REAL BAD DAY...>*shapeshifts into big fat dog*>*wanders around homelessly for 15 seconds because i'll die if i go forward and they're not dumb enough to come to me*AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>559972487I Hate Overperforming Heroes But I Would Never Ever Ever Nerf The Hero Who Has Been S+ Tier For Months
>>559972727getting better
>>559972682Victor is so boring that no one wants to play him. It's not like the ladder is actually real in a closed alpha. Nobody gives that much of a shit about climbing with some boring hero.
>>559972393I think some attack range on spirit power or something in that vein would be good.
Silver got buffed again.
>>559972727>Shiv status?pullin' out tha big guns
>calico barely nerfed>wraith barely nerfed>doorman barely nerfed>warden BUFFED for some reasonare they crazy?
>Kudzu Connection now only gives you half the bonus if you aren't connected to an ally>Air Drop damage spirit scaling reduced from 1 to 0.7It's joever.
It's over for Celeste. I was having fun with her though.
>>559972393>>559972813She's too binary right now and is forcibly gimped because her S3 stacks too fast. It's either "you shoot her from far away and there's literally nothing she can do about it whatsoever" or "you let her walk up to you and she turns off your M1"If they reduced her S3 buildup rate they'd be able to increase her M1 range without making her too disgusting
>>559972761>bell does even more damage nowExcept now you have to actually get hit by the bell again instead of being within a cunt-hair of the massive AOE
>>559972618Skulls should get knocked back but not destroyed on a light melee.
Im having so much fun :D
Shiv ult goes so far now, might as well be a new escape tool
>>559972896>Kudzu Connection now only gives you half the bonus if you aren't connected to an allyHopefully this means they're gonna ditch the perma-tether idea soon and return it to +1 tethers
I miss the bell mini-detonation-on-collisionSometimes you get a lineup and hear DINGDINGDINGPure dopamine
these devs are actually clueless kekthey had a hit on their hands and they're gonna blow it
>>559972761what is the major malfunction with these retarded developers
>>559972487nuh uh chuddy he was a hair above 50 at eternus+ and we all know going above 50 WR makes you a priority for nerfs>whats that? victornigger sitting at around 55 WR for a year? must have been the wind
>>559972882>warden BUFFEDYou call that a buff? I thought they reverted his resists on ult.
>>559972068one of the devs played sinclair and copied lash ult and couldn't do shit with it
Doorkeks seething LMAO
Yoshi must browse these threads, you need to fire hopoo
>>559972997They are letting streamers and reddit upvotes command their balance decisions and its raping them
What the actual fuck are they smoking with these patches? Buff all the cancer characters (who have been previously nerfed FOR BEING CANCER) so hard into absurdity the previously few overpowered new chars aren't even really overpowered anymore, then nerf the new chars anyways and leave all the new criminals completely overtuned? Fucking uninstalling this dogshit game again jesus christ this is unplayable.
>>559972710imagine fucking this guy
>>559973053Victor got nerfed more than anyone else though.
>>559972710>why nerf a hypercarry tank that basically automatically wins after a certain money threshold unless his team is filled with 5 actual retards
>Pocket got buffed further
They need to revert Wraith's ult.
why do people say pocket is good? every single pocket and I mean EVERY SINGLE POCKET I've ever had the pleasure of encountering has been shit enemy team? always feeding. Random? always feeding. FUCKING FRIENDS? Always feeding. they're the goddamn Yasuo of deadlock. I swear to god every pocket player has a brain parasite that makes it a need to have 10 deaths before the 25 minute mark.
best gun items early for graves? i feel like point plank and titanic magazine are good, the one that rams up your damage as you shoot seems like shit, mystic shot idk, I'm testing right now and it feels meh, needs a bit more ommph
These Silver changes are the absolute placebo. They don't change the fundamental problems with her character concept as she is. I think the devs should just disable her and admit they fucked up, and give her a complete rework.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH OHHH I AM LAUGHING!!!11!! SPLENDID YOSHINIGGER KILL YOURSELF!!!
>>559973173It would be fine as-is if it didn't fucking slow and silence movement abilities at the end of it, that part is obscene.
>>559973102Woman (not troon) post.
>Paradox: Pulse Grenade does half damage to objectivesmy free MVP from objective damage NOOOOOO
>barely lose to vindicta/goo after wiping the fucking floor with them during lane as mina>constantly getting punched, literally can't parry and still do fights fast enough>add goo after match>"gg do you think they should nerf punch?">goo: "nah not really, rebuttal kills me so quick"you're totally right dude, the 1 rebuttal punch that you might get hit by before you whiff a parry and get juggled by your 4 other charges totally kills yougoo tourists abusing punch build are fucking delusional
Okay I take it all back Icefrog is a retard. TTK was fucking perfect last patch and then he somehow royally fucks it this patch and the 'fix' is a fucking horrible band-aid that just buffs everyone's HP across the board by a stupid amount.What the fuck?
>Lash ult buffsWe're so back
>>559973153Affliction is more impactful but cloak feels fucking horrible atm. Slow as fuck to the point people can literally outrun it and the cooldown is painfully long. Idk why they keep trying to force Pocket into being an ultbot when that's the least enjoyable part of the kit on either playing as or against.
>>559973196you literally just need to land his ult
>celeste finally taken out back and shotThank you Yoshi
It's kinda crazy how low Graves' k/d is on average. Is it because she's always tempted to suicide for walkers?
Victor needs HEAVY nerfs, unfortunately he's a female to male transgender dev's self insert character so he will never get nerfs
>buff everything>nerf it back to prepatchwhat did he mean by this?
>>559973348She just kind of dies if you run at her.
>>559973212She doesn't need to be reworked, she needs to be un-reworked back to how she was before and then given a few tweaks
>>559972081Good, should keep shitters away from the character
>>559973327cloak will also get stuck on ledges or walls half the time when you're trying to escape and get you killed
>>559973415>what is an alpha test
>>559973348Could be that she has 2 stamina, one one of the lowest HP in the game, and no innate escape abilities like Mina and Rem
>>559973418She's like Paige in that you need good movement just to tread water and not explode
>Light Eater and Barrier nerfLooks like it's over for Celeste
>>559973415These changes barely do anything, characters are still unfun and overpowered as fuck. I'd GLADLY take being reverted prepatch.
>notice teammate is feeding really hard and throwing game>lose >they say its their 5th game everactually how am i supposed to ever rank up when the matchmaking is this broken?
>>559973348Her lack of range forces her to bounce between the two extremes of>Afk splitpusher who jannies lanes for her team>Hold W + M1 and fling herself forwards while pressing every button hoping for the best
What's with all the moss and stuff on the ground? When did that get added in?
>egg buffed againBUY BUY BUY
>>559973556Teaser for the new hero, Nature's Prophet.
>>559973535get friendsthis is just solo q experience
>>559973415>what did he mean by this?He was testing things and also probably sneaking certain things forward after you got bombarded with a lot at once.
>>559973535I just had >>559965108 earlier. Oracle 1 and some uncommunicative fresh install single handedly decided the outcome of the match by dying I think 16 or 17 times over the whole match, with zero kills (his first item after the Golden Goose Egg was Refresher) No point trying to win
>>559973340I'm more complaining about the players since they're too retarded to do that
I've played a few games on Venator now and I'm starting to think that the Parz build is better than the furry build, at least for skill order.Parz 2 points in '2' then max '1', furry is 2 points '2' then max '4'.also having something to cast more nades is more desirable.
>>559973442This is a fucking retarded excuse because they take forever to do basic number tweaks and make changes anyone with a brainstem could have told you are fucking stupid without even having been pushed to live. It took almost TWO FUCKING YEARS to just make Shiv's execute a skillshot instead of homing delete, that is the most common sense low effort change to make and they seem utterly incapable of realizing that kind of shit. Numerous characters exist in a state of "if they aren't dogshit they're complete and total cancer to play against" and instead of reworking the actual issues, in true valve fashion they demonstrate they have no fucking idea what they're doing then go back to the gooncave and laugh at the people pissed the game is fucked.
>Gun still shittier>Scaling on kudzu reduced>Tether now shit unless you suck off a teammatte>Scaling on ult reverted to pre-rebalanceI STILL HAVE STONE FORM AND A DREAM
>>559971340>more hp and better hp scaling for everyonebased like playing the game and not dying to 1 spell>better eggbased>calcio nerfsgood>ivy nerfs but slight gun buffidk i feel like that's a bit bullshit but whatever>wraith nerfed slightly but still has her bullshit ultwhat can you do, generally fine direction although they may need to continue until things settle. also>some nothingburger buffs to silverhopefully the wolfags will shut up now
Wolfpack, how are we feeling?All is good now, right??
Did the changes fix the game or is it still shit
When will /dlg/ rise up? we need a brave anon to go stand outside valve's offices demanding yoshi's public execution
Is QSR Vindicta supposed to go on Flight, Crow, or Assassinate
just played a victor game and idk why they nerfed his aura instead of pain battery damage i still rape people late game with itim getting egg too and selling it to buy escalating exposure. def feel the -10% dmg early game but im getting phenomenal lane partners so its whatever
>>559974091There are countless niggers in Drifter cosplay all over downtown Seattle 24/7
>>559974091unironically are there any good deadlock cosplays yeti know the tranny streamer did a mina one but >tranny
>>559962505>hitting their shots = "so i bought rr, expansion, and crushing to throw 4.5 massive fist puddles anywhere i want from across state lines with the only counterplay being 'buy an 800 item, don't be on ping, and don't whiff a parry under any circumstances'">rewardeda strong word for current patch bullshit
>>559973990Its fucking over senpai>doesn't do alot of spirit damage>doesn't do alot of gun damage>not even a good support, can't heal or do anything>can't even take allies and run away from a bad fight by flyingFucking viscous can save you if you're dying midfight by cubing you and that's not even his ult, literally what do they want me to build on ivy? Kudsu bombs were easy to avoid and have a trillion year cooldown and yet they nerfed their damage literally why?
>>559974205Hard to do cosplays when you aren't sure how final some of these designs are
>just noticed the losing team is the one that doesn't have the support that buys the CC itemsSo it will be one of those games....
>>559974091I live too far away t. Euro
I will not be satisfied until Yoshi delivers a public apology to Silver.
>>559962505You barely have to aim puddle punch on Viscous anymore, the aoe is ridiculous.
stupid question, can certain item actives stacklike if a victor has scourge, and I have scourge, can victor get double scourge going
>>559974347Imagine if Deadlock's fandom was like one of those psycho Korean or Japanese gacha playerbases. Hero mains forming their own communities, pooling money to rent advertising trucks to bombard Valve HQ with "BUFF SILVER! NERF VICTOR! BUFF SILVER! NERF VICTOR!" Death threats for voice line changes.
how long does it take for people to learn that souls are more important than kills? my lane partners keep diving their towers chasing a low HP target just to explode to all their cooldowns immediately
>>559974324>team that has a team player has an advantage over the team that has nonethough provoking
Wow. The bells are really shit now. Not even late game they're good.
>>559974451we're 2 years into the game so never
>>559974451economic advantage is a concept completely foreign to hero shooter players
>>559974018needs more freckles, i will never forgive yoshi for taking them away. Silver canonically has cute freckles
>>559974513have you considered that they made redditors melty
>>559974451not dying needlessly ≥ souls = killskills grant a lot of souls. dying in bad fights will give the enemy a massive soul lead if you die 5+ times before 10min
>>559974245Melee Ivy is back in town.
i'm having a fucking crash out what is yoshi smoking
There's literally a server in my fucking country, why the FUCK THIS DEV TEAM OF NIGGERS PUT ME IN ANOTHER SERVER WHEN I SEARCH.How the fuck do i prevent this i cannot continue playing with literally monkeys.
>>559974731Backloading the resists so lategame a fed warden can ult in the middle of a teamfight but before that he still has to do the stupid little majestic leap
who is this Venator?
the age of black queens has begun.the age of wh*te "men" is over.
>>559973415>no Abrams changesI guess they don't want people to play him at the moment.
>>559974205I've seen a bunch of biofem minas of different quality
How over is it for Celeste, Celeste players?
>>559974862his ult is fucking useless if you pop it in a team fight you are going to die
>>559974862warden is just wraith but weaker in every way
Why the fuck did they buff Shiv's escape dash bro he's so broken now
has anyone felt the health changesI can barely tell
>nerf the bells>now all my "cart to walker" plays do nothing because I have no damage to follow upGuess I'm building gun.
>>559973226there's so many things that have incidental movement ability silence nowrem ult having it was an indicator to me that there would be similar bullshit coming, but putting it on wraith ult is god awfuli was in testing earlier trying to figure out the window for counterspell on telekinesis, and pulled the "LIFTING" audio from the vpk to see timings on ityou basically have a 0.37-ish second window to counterspell, since by the time she's done saying "LIFT", the window is closed. and this is in testing which is 0 ping. in effect, if you have more than 50ms ping, you can't counterspell telekinesis. have fun.
>>559975148yeah that's why you have 80% resists and unstop so you can get away with it dingus.
>>559975849>They nerf that tooAnd the cycle continues!
>>559974245>Doesn't do a lot of spirit damage>Stone form does over 600 late game>On roughly 11 second CD late game>With 2 second stun>Easy as fuck to stack escalating exposure on>Arctic blast into stone form on a bramble patch is 2/3 of any character's health>The total time they're not allowed to move is like 5 full seconds>This is in an aoe so you can do it to multiple peopleRetard
Im glad that they reverted Doorman's bells to having impact damage but now his bells are worse than ever. They didnt revert the increased charge time between bells, they dont have improved scaling and they dont do any extra damage. His bells are literally worse than before.Doorman is now relegate to being a Door and Ult bot.
Golden Goose Egg: souls per buff improved from every 200 souls to every 150just a reminder that you are throwing if you dont buy the egg
>>559976016I need to do damage to kill people
>>559972882>doorman>barely nerfedHe wasnt even that strong to begin with but they still completely kneecapped his damageNow his damage potential is WORSE than it was before the patch.
>>559975963The balance team actually need to be shot in the head they cannot do their jobs whatsoeverLiterally fucking bring doorman back to how he was before the big update, but with the ult bug fixed
spectating games is always slightly depressinglife really is different for people who can aim
>>559976016trophy collector >>>> egg
>>559975963At least when I have a doorman on my team he won't upgrade the cart last and skip the stun.haha...
>>559976145I'm a sadist so when I spectate I do it on the losing team Watching a 0/18/4 Ivy die over and over is something else
I wonder when it was that I lost my faith in others
>>559976218do you have to keep the trophy collector the entire game?
>>559975884>March 6, 2026 - Last Stand T3 no longer grants +50% Bullet and Spirit ResistIt seems they forgot to update the tooltip
>>559976296yes, the stacks are tied to the item
>>559976056They reverted the bell and his ultimate is still stronger no?
>>559976317I don't know but yeah tooltips are fucked. Scourge doesn't even give spirit resists because they left in junk code that instead of giving resists gives you barrier but set the barrier to 0.
how does the game calculate mvp? just got this miserable one lmao
Somebody escaping the baroness should've just been a 50% cooldown like it is with Celeste, what the FUCK were they thinking with it being able to be cast again?
>>559971703This is a Rem buff btw
>>559974645>I've been playing like a support and buying anvil and throwing shit from behind the tower while they rape my hazeshit i was doing it all wrong
>notice I have a good player on my team by how they play>see rest of my team doing something extremely stupid>can tell the guy left out of frustrationlmao
>arcanist game>all of my teammates start brooling after 10 minutes>im the desginated lane janny pushing out BOTH side lanes solo but we still lose a walker>teammates are literally just standing outside their base for 20+ minutes
>>559971703YOU CAN'T KILL MECAN'T KILLME
>>559976641Enforced macro tutorials before playing the game.
next patch is HER patch
>>559975884wow you are tanky for all of 2 seconds>>559976317the ult has two types of resist, the resist while channeling and the resist while the ult is activepreviously the tier 3 applied while it was active, they removed that entirely and increased the resist while channeling. then they the channeling resist again from 60% to 50% by default +30% on tier 3
when did they get rid of pockets gay little spin
>I need to be braindead invincible while I'm ulting on my non-tank character!!
>>559976863
>>559975963Doorman gets out of control every time he gets damage because he just has so much in his kit. He's a pick-off character who also has insane amounts of utility and good crowd control. All he lacks is damage, so when he gets it he becomes absurd. The problem is that without damage, he kind of doesn't function as a pick-off character and also falls of a cliff later in the game. Its difficult to balance. I honestly kind of wish they leaned into gunman being viable a bit more, i feel like it was the most cohesive he ever felt as a character>t. >200 games as Doorman
>>559976409The level 2 and 3 ult is gimmicky at best, its only reliable against bad players. Dispel Magic and knowing how to do the hotel properly makes it literally impossible to fail the check out.The Bell does roughly the same damage as before the patch EXCEPT they didnt revert the charge CD nerf so your dps with them is significantly lower.
>>559970662if they nerf duration refund to 50% then make it proc on assists too it's actually very hard to get final hits on silver in teamfights
>>559976863hai
>>559974115Crows or Assassinate
>>559976219Jokes on you, now that level 3 Bell increases the slow im maxing Ult>Bell>Door>Cart
>>559976473I keep getting it as doorman with nothing special on the scoreboard and my friends hate me every time it happens. I have no idea but its funny as hell.
i dont want wardens ult to be buffed i want it to be reworked into an ability that is actually fucking useful without buying gimmick items
>>559977015>I honestly kind of wish they leaned into gunman being viable a bit moreYou gonna end up with another geist situation where 80% of people can't make him function because they can't hit the shots and want to just max spirit still
>>559977158
>LAST STAND>dies instantly after cast
Silver feels playable again if you were decent after she got gutted
Celeste is probably useless now with the light eater and barrier nerfs
>>559977298I WILL buy duration extenderI WILL coat the entire lane in bellsThey WILL fail to check out
>>559976145True.
>>559977319>initiator >fearless>one man army>sees wraith in lane and runs away
>make big balance patch>even make it a big announcement on the steam news>revert 90% of the changes 2 days later sure, why not
>>559977380No she's just balanced
>>559966492Retards who get mad at gun baffle meDo they not see what kind of game this is or what?
>>559976863viscous still says>It's funny because I'm basically immortal. on his ability that gives him 35% resistance
>>559976145Play a hero that doesn't need to aim
>Bebop is supposedly the mechahitler of this game judging by how much people complain about him>Look inside>49% winrate before the big balance patch, 45% now
I don't know anything about deadlock balance or meta or game mechanics, but I do know that stacking rate of fire makes me win more than damage. Can someone explain why this is? Haze/seven/billy
>>559977665No such hero exists. Even Victor needs to aim pain batteries ...
>>559977693https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4s_Qi7TmKAThis guy cries about it for 7 minutes but sums up why he isn't "fun to play against" despite not having a high winrate. It's like techies, he's an agent of entropy>>559977773Paige is very easy to play if you're an aimlet
>>559977761haze and seven makes sense as they have things that proc of hits, billy make no sense as you want juicy melee hits
>>559977761no idea how those characters build normally because i don't play them but fire-rate items are almost all gun items, buying gun items inherently gives you gun damage without explicitly buying damage items so you get a 2 for 1 in that way
fellas I've gotta admit I was pretty mad at the Ivy buffs but now that I've played her I've gotta admit she is fun as fuck to playIt's just so insanely fun dropping a Billy in the middle of the enemy team and then watching the ensuing chaos
>Doorman Bell buffs completely reverted>Doorman Bell nerfs not reverted so bell is worse than before>Impact damage means mystic reverb on bell is now worthless again>Cart damage nerfs(removal) still in effect>Lost all damage potential for an ult gimmick that only works in alchemist lobbies, a 2cm wider cart and slightly longer range doorsYoshi really just wants Doorman to be the funny cart into walker and fountain man, huh
AT LEAST GIVE ME THE OLD BELLS BACK IF YOU'RE GOING TO REVERT THEM, YOSHI. HOLY FUCK, YOU ACTUAL NIGGER
reminder that this game will go straight to shit once draft comes out and people start arguing about who gets to play meta chars/carry and farm prioenjoy it while you can
>>559973415Apollo's change is shit. The whole fun of apollo is that you want to stay lunging as much as possible because it makes you nearly invulnerable, speeding up the lunge speed throws off muscle memory and makes you less invulnerable. Shitty t3
>>559977561Do you play her?
>>559978047doorniggers be like yes doorman bell in lane should have more damage than vindicta ult that's balanced
>>559977372I just had a game as Silver and it was unmitigated dogshit>vindicta>flies away>GT>flies away>calico>goes into ult cucking me out of half of my ultI killed more people in my human form than I did in my wolf form. Being in wolf form actually feels like a hindrance because I know all my targets gonna dump everything they have to either stun me or disengage as quick as possible.The only time I still have decent amount of fun is early game when I get to trade with people in lane.
>>559978297knockdown?
>>559978047>WAAAAH WAAAAH I CANT ABUSE MY CRUTCH OVERTURNED HERO FOR FREE WINS ANYMORE
>>559978398That's for the supportsissies lol I need more damage
>>559978047Sorry but I had to endure nearly a week of your faggot hero being giga buffed, now it's your turn to suffer. I hope Wraith and Calico get nerfs of this level next and their players cry about that too.
>silverkek seethe into doorkek seethethis has been a very entertaining patch yoshi, thank you
Don't care. Still playing doorman
>>559978047>funny cart into walker and fountain manThat is all he ever really was.
>>559978297Nothing more satisfying than phantom striking fliers as werewolf, they usually lack escapes once you're on top of them
Skins and cosmetics when?
>>559978297>>vindicta>>flies away>>GT>>flies away
>remember this overtuned obnoxious character?>well, they're shit now>remember this shit character?>well, they're overtuned and obnoxious now2 years of this on repeat.
>>559978595Ah yes we need more sweet baby and crossovers to make the game less recognizable plz valve
lost all 5 games tonight because my friends keep fighting instead of playing objective
Is mole a slur?
>>559978483>giga buffedIm sorry that shitty Doormen tormented you in your alchemist lobbies but I had to endure months of Doorman being complete dogshit.
yeah I'm uninstalling this game and coming back when this fucking cancerous matchmaking gets actually fixed.so fucking tired being queued with people who clearly installed the game 2 weeks ago and having only 3 won games in my match history.
wait is vindicta evil? she says she'll hunt the friends of humanity :(
>>559978701And now you're going to have to put up with months more. Enjoy!
>>559978792the friends of humanity are descendants of people that killed her 300 years ago in the salem witch trials, imagine someone wanting to kill you because your great great great great great great grandfather was a bad guyof course this nuance doesnt matter because the friends of humanity are racist and deserve it
>>559978792vindicta murders people as often as drifter
>avoid viscous>viscous in my game>useless on my team, spamming abilities and raping on enemy teamplease stop playing this guy in street brawl
>>559978398sis I only have 12 slots and 4 actives. Also thanks to my team I didn't see either of them enough to justify the purchase.Otherwise I usually get knockdown if I have to deal with either of them.>>559978572>>559978597Maybe I should stop buying warpstone and rush phantom strike.Game didn't last long enough for me to swap from warp to strike.
>>559978297>>vindicta>>flies away>>GT>>flies away>>calico>>goes into ult cucking me out of half of my ultThis but graves desu, i don't get the silver woe is me shit
did they change the way doorman portals work? i thought you used to be able to just stick your hand through and shoot but i couldn't get it to work when i just tried it
>>559978459>lycan firerate scales 4:1 with spirit>BUT I NEED MORE DAMAGEstpud dogcan't damage if you can't reach them, and knockdown + slowing hex gives you 10% additional attack speed for free in your ult
>die 15 times due to bad lane and afk jungling teammates>end game with highest damage and key pickoffs throughout the game even when outnnumberedI HATE ORACLE SO MUCH STOP FUCKING AFK JUNGLING YOU RETARDS
>>559979150u died 15 times tho ur bad
>>559979090Graves is supposed to be bad
>>559978297buy a cheeky knockdown as well might as well
>>559979195That may be true, but my team is always worse. There needs to be a tutorial that states jungling is only after you've pushed all the waves and there's nobody on your side of the map to pressure. It's straight retarded seeing someone hit a jungle camp for 200 souls while a walker is dying or a teammate is being jumped. Straight painful. I'd play street brool but idk it's not very fun with the walker final round. Just boring waiting
Supertf just counterspell Wraith ult on reaction.Look like you babies just have to get good and not have old man reaction :)
Epstein Rape McGinnis
Celeste is dead
Is victor actually no longer a mass rapist? They seem like very minor adjustments for how broken and easy he is to play
my girlfriend(boy) loves to go 0/10 on mina.
>>559979928Pocket's byc
>>559980109what does the y stands for
How the fuck am I supposed to make use of thisIt wasnt that good before but now that impact damage is back its even worse, genuinely what the fuck is the point of bells lasting for 30 seconds
>>559980157young... york
>>559979928Seeing Mina's naked balls when she flies up to ult
>>559980164you can stack a bunch of them ontop of each other then pop them all at once because your bullets pierce now
>>559980164To let everyone know you've been there
>>559979928impotent mina main whos penis can no longer get hard from excessive hrt (not like it matters since she wears a cock cage) who has a vibrating bluetooth dildo set to go off everytime she takes damage/dies
>>559980109more like tlp. mina's already moved over to victors massive franker.
>>559980271Except now that half the bell damage is on impact again youre just wasting half the damage.
>patch doesn't even mention the bell scaling nerf
>make Doorman bell impact damage trigger when enemy touches it >make level 3 bell lower charge CD so you can actually stack 2-3 of them while they're in hotelwow look I fixed doorman
>>559980324victor has to sit down to pee because he couldn't find any dicks in the dead body pile
>>559980510yes it does
>>559980319literally me...
HELP ME KILL THE DETECTIVE!
>>559978891>racistIm pretty sure they just hate the supernatural, also vindicta may have actually been a witch but idk I'm not too deep into her lore
>>559980334Yeah too bad you cant stack your bells with zero effort by ulting someone any more, fuck you!
MINA HAAAAAAAAAA RISE UP AND TAKE ALL THE SHOTA'S YOU DESERVE
>>559979685>>559979685>>559979685>>5599799283 people replied to this garbage post and ignored mine, fuck you all >>559980792trash post
>>559978047>I didn't play the character with portals to use his portals, I played him to spam generic aoe nukeskill yourself, just as retarded as gunman builds from 6 months ago
>>559980783You couldnt stack the bells to begin with because the cooldown was too long retardHotel lasts like 6 seconds at the very most, the cooldown is 4 seconds with Rapid Recharge. You have time to throw down a single bell before they leave the hotel.
Why do they keep nerfing towers, walkers and shrines?
played 2 games and had fun desu
>>559971976his bell is back to doing more damagehis cart no longer does 2 instances of damage so that was still a nerf sadly
>>559980109Bitchy Yellow Chink?
>>559978891A kid who's parents Vindicta murdered will come and kill her in the future
>>559980854Hey faggot, the portals arent enough to make him good. They require specific setups to have any impact otherwise their only reliable use is as an escape tool. Dynamo can press 4 and just win you a fight, Doorman needs the fucking moon and stars to align to do the same.There's a reason why Doorman was at the bottom of every high rank players tierlist.
They should make Doorman's t3 door have infinite range
Why are they buffing Seven
My Paradox is fucking sick, even if I say so myself
>>559981037and thats a good thing
>>559981113really don't like her gunif all burst fire guns were replaced with automatics deadlock would be a 10/10 game
>>559980898based
>>559980940Yeah the bell getting more damage was to offset him losing a source of scaling from his cart's wallstun portion. Now the only reason you play him is a gimmick ultbot, same as before. Nice patches retards! Yoshi must be drawn and quartered!
>>559974513dude they're amazing just like they were before the patchjust aim and pierce them and its the easiest thing in the world to do double hits with
>>559981195Her gun feels horrible to me but Lash's feels great and idk why
>>559981113>Curviest woman next to Geist>Has a fishbowl for a headYOSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!
>lash, vindicta and grey talon in one gamenothing feels quite as good as hard countering half the enemy team with one item
>>559981264why cant I just throw nuclear bells that deal all their damage in a lane wide aoe in lane anymore??? fucking bullshit
Is Mina still a late game ult bot?
Does Yamato have a really high skill floor? I feed like crazy every time I play her and have no impact, and i dont do that badly on other characters I play
>use my mic to say something the pings wheel won't be able to communicate>1 after another everyone starts using their mics>Theyre talking to eachother im just making callouts>Complimenting each others plays and winning the matchwtf this is actually nice when there isn't someone raging
- Silver: Lycan Curse base health bonus increased from +75 to +125- Silver: Lycan Curse T2 increased from +3m to +4m- Silver: Lycan Curse cooldown reduced from 50s to 40s- Silver: Lycan Curse T1 increased from 15% Resists to 18%Placebo "buffs" that do nothing.
>>559977693his bombs can be annoying but now that they dont just delete on dispell you need to counter em and have a stun ready for his ultthen he just gets basically ignored
>>559981268I don't mind the helmet I just wish it didn't look like a smoothie blender
>>559978047just get spirit burnbells are fine
>>559981567but how will i dominate my lane with unavoidable poke now?
this shit feels OP and it's not even expensive, wish more people on my team used it
>arcanist 5 game>my team>celeste with 1 page of games>ven with 4 games total>geist with less than a page of games>kelvin with barely 1.5 pages of games>enemy team has pages of games eachThey were all playing fine and we won (because enemy team left) but what the fuck are these placements? How are seemingly new people are thrown that high for the amount of games they played?
>>559981638Ermmm when I use it on an enemy it doesn't instantly kill them with a billion damage so it's USELESS
>>559981264Brain damage.
>>559981646smurfs probably, got banned on my main (alchemist at the time), made an alt and got played em4 after going 1 win 6 losses
>>559974091holy cringe
>>559981497Silver isn't meant to be good
>>559981646I have yet to get my rank and I am scared that I will get placed into some high rank despite being an absolute shitter
>>559972487>Devs let ledditors and esportsniggers balance their game>Things go to shitSugoi!
>>559981668reddit sneedfaced over clips of 5% hp shitters getting popped by doorman bells and demanded the 49% winrate postbuff hero get his one good source of damage nerfed
>>559981264You dont get it. Doorman lost all his damage scaling for mid to late game and got nothing in return.Cart wallstun damage and scaling is gone completely. Bells went from 4s charge cd to 6s. Level 3 bells lost their extra hit which also removed the spirit scaling on that extra hit.
>>559981496You set the tone early and people are less likely to rage. You are a LEADER my tranime friend
>>559962135i fucking love this wolf girl and will start playing the game the DAY they add a shop so i can buy skins for her.
>>559980869you can just barely get 3 if you throw one before ulting
>>559981646I steamrolled initiate lobbies as a new player and the win streak boosted me to alchemist after a few games, then I got stomped many times and went back to initiate
>>559980530>>make Doorman bell impact damage trigger when enemy touches itpeople would whine so much about this from coming back out of ult or getting carted in a loop into bells lmao
>>559980886they buffed them beforethey're just toning it back down
>>559981234nah his bells still do a lot of damage when used wellwish cart still did bonus damage but ah well can't have everything back just yet
>>559981668The official discord is full of these types of "I'm GLAD my hero got NERFED actually it makes sense"It's some weird form of contrarianism where they try so desperately come of as not wanting their hero to be strong that they turn into weird cuckolds who cheer when they get nerfed(?!)
Stop saying my wife is bad. A tier in Eternus+.
I'm unironically getting blackpilled by these patches. Feels like shit was wonky but mostly ok before the latest batch of heroes came out. Now it's like the devs completely gave up and are just letting streamers and upvotes tell them how to balance their gameIt's like the worst of both worlds. We get random heroes gutted because proleague whined, we get random kneejerk balance changes because reddit criedSomeone needs to wake Yoshi up and force feed him testosterone supplements until he remembers he's the fucking dev
>>559981606its still good poke just like it was before
>Victor"Needs" to be strong because otherwise he's just a useless blob of hp due to the design of his kit and how he needs to overall be in melee range>SilverDoes NOT apply to her for some reason and she gets dumpstered every patch
>>559982117I'm happy with the health changes at least. TTK was getting stupid.
>>559981638>doesn't register on far enemiesIt's annoying to use
FACE ME AND DIE!>>559982249kwab. dont cry because its over, smile because it happened
I hear street brawl is more played then the actual game mode. Can't say I'm surprised
>>559982262>Devs randomly hypertune damage across the board even though nobody asked them to>TTK becomes super short>People complain>Devs buff HP across the board>"I'm happy with the health changes"You're easily manipulated cattle
>>559982249Old silver was like current victor in that she was cancer, they just need to give victor the same treatment or buff antiheal items
Is drifter a vampire
>>559982331Why would I lock in to 40 minutes with bad teammates to play a moba?
>>559973770It's about seeing the team comp and knowing if it's a game where you beef up and run in or gun max and hang back
>>559982395Celeste is dead. Wraith is dead. Doorman is dead
>>559982359>Old silver was like current victorShe was NEVER as good as Victor, also what old Silver?The one that was nerfed right after release?The one that was nerfed right after that?The one before the latest nerfs?Silver was never given the chance to settle in the playerbase because of tournament player upplaying her nonstop and retarded goyim repeating their unfounded claims which made Yoshi overreact and nerf her right away.
>>559981870i just had a great match with em and they're fine just like they were before
>>559982516oh no... anyway
>>559982395VenatorGAWDS avoiding yet another nerf
>>559962442Why not both?
Why the fuck did valve release a patch for this game in the middle of the night
>>559982843American workerslave hours
>Bellman gets a snap on the wrist>Boosted bitches cry that they can't autowin lane anymore>Ignore the piss easy ult + cart + portal combo now that the ult is megabusted and the cart is magnetic
>>559982843Yoshi was getting too many death threats
>>559982342>>559982117Retard we ARE cattle.Did you forget how late 2024 to early 2025 went? Yoshi just had a cattle prod to consta tly poke the playerbase.
>>559982395how can they be stopped
>>559962135How do I Yamato? By the time I do big dick damage I feel the game is already over and I still get fucked by Spellbreaker and Counterspell. Before that I feel the damage is not only underwhelming but also I don't have enough survivability/mobility.
Silver feels like absolute shit to play. I sincerely hope they make the ult manually triggered and just increase the cooldown to a reasonable amount. It's just not fun
>>559963226please tell me it's a dick
>>559982395>S-tier>SilverPlease first pick her in night shift again nigga and see what happensSEE WHAT HAPPENS.
After practicing the Hotel platform for a few minutes, I now see how braindead fucking easy it is to get out even with zero stamina. The ONLY way to guarantee someone takes the full damage from the hotel is to make sure they only have 0-1 stamina, dont have enduring speed, dont have dispel magic, have no movement abilities and then hitting them with a big slow right before you hotel them.Anything less than that and a good player will literally never fail to exit the hotel in time. What was the point of the Hotel buff when it only works against retards?
Has Deadlock ever had tournament trannies sperg out over their own memes about a hero being super duper strong but don't achieve anything with it before or is it just Silver?
>>559982117The devs are doing things deliberately to fuck with the pros and make the matches entertaining, you are just on that ride. You can even see them fail to make adjustments into the new meta on stream and get fucked for it.
Just turn the baronness into a roblox obby
>>559983208The real thing the hotel does is remove someone from the fight making it a 6v5 or whatever for several seconds, almost as much as a dynamo ult on a shorter cooldown. If it was a 'press 4 to win' button it would be gay.
>>559983163
>>559983019PRO & THRILL
>>559983349Okay so then why did they decide to make one of Doorman's only remaining buffs this patch a change to his level 3 ult that relies on the enemy failing the hotel?The CC immunity while someone is inside is near useless on Doorman because he isnt scary enough to warrant stunning. Even worse, the CC immunity turns off the moment he would actually NEED it, which is immediately after they exit the hotel.
>>559983521Good question. The devs don't seem to understand their own game design or they actually do expect you to drop a bunch of active items on people before ulting them to get value from the t3 upgrade
>>559983369>doorman down to A>victor up to BROKEN>graves up to A>mirage down to BFixed
>>559983292shiv
>>559983369are pros butthurt about getting spawn door'd
>>559983023What are you talkinging about? Just click your abilities until they die there is nothing to it.
>>559983559the bells do a 40%ish slow for 4s and you can add anything else to that on top of the stam drainor just watch for low stamina lol
>>559983369>shiv anything but C tier>victor not in his own tier of broken
Just bought another egg
>>559983704based and same
calico wraith and doorman got dumpstered lmao eat shit
just 2 shot a rem with cards
They should rename the rejuvenator to the lifekey; it's the opposite of deadlock and it breaks (you could even say it opens) deadlocks in gameplay (by giving you a massive advantage). Don't actually name it this it sucks
>>559983675Shiv will hit 10% winrate in pubs before people finally admit the character is kinda shit to play and needs a complete visual and kit rework.
so will silver players shut up now?
The hotel should have a bit of randomness to it, like every 5 minutes it's layout changes by some random parameters
>>559983881She’ll get first picked in Night Shift again and Yoshi will deploy emergency nerfs
Shiv is cool as fuck and you cant deny it, just give him 3 stam back and were cooking shivbros
>>559983521the game's still early enough where a significant portion of the playerbase still can't escape the baroness, so they can lean into punishing for failure to escape more for now. Eventually it could get changed to something else if/when doorman's winrate gets too low. This is my assumption as an idiot poster who knows nothing
>>559982395>>559983369Why is my wife grabes so bad? How can thry buff her?
The hotel should generate the Baroness as a Minecraft adventure map each time and the guy who got ulted needs to solve a series of redstone puzzles, parkour, and defeat Herobrine in a 1v1 before escaping.
the point of carbine is to constantly deal psychological damage to the opponent and you can't convince me otherwise
>>559984052The Baroness actually opens a word doc and you need to write a 10 page paper with APA citations on a randomly selected subject
>>559984052>get ulted by doorman>black out irl>wake up to find that valve sent guys to your house to sedate you and then put you in a escape room while you were sedated>you need to figure out all the riddles and clues before they let you back to your pc
So I guess Talon and Vyper and getting conpletely reworked?
>>559984087Nah the baroness should open your notepad live to all other players so you can share your doujin porn tastes to strangers
>>559984052they would make the puzzle slightly easier after a week and boosted doorcucks would lose their mind again
instead of harvesting souls there should be different resource nodes around the map and you can harvest them and process them in a factorio like minigame to create items
>when I start playing Deadlock I first start playing Shiv because I think he looks cool>he's a perma nerfed probait>like Silver the most of all the new 6 heroes>she's perma nerfed probaitStay away from the characters I play
>>559984052AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>decided to get over my fears and try a full meele build>get parry raped in lane>farm mid game>major team after mid biss fight>meele once, miss>meele twice, miss>meele a third time, miss>the enemy team dies and we winI've never felt so useless in my life, I'm no built for this shit>>559983989Just buy a stamina it's literally 800 souls
>>559983647Its not enough. The Doorman needs to invest a minimum of 10k souls on subpar items and the stars themselves need to align for a good player to fail exiting the baroness in time.And even if they cant? They probably have Counterspell an equivalent ability to parry the stun+damage anyway, rendering those part of his buffs useless too.
>>559984161Sinclair and Holliday too.
WHY THE FUCK DO MCG PLAYERS ALWAYS WALL OFF THEIR OWN TEAM AND NEVER THE FUCKING ENEMYTHEY ARE VILLAINS THEY ALWAYS FUCK OVER THEIR OWN TEAM MORE AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>559984284i dont even understand why she's s tier? fat nigga easy to gank no escapes
>>559984229>And even if they cant? They probably have Counterspell an equivalent ability to parry the stun+damage anyway, rendering those part of his buffs useless too.afaik that doesn't count as checking out, so you get the CD
Mid to late game feels better now desuThey can tweak the life a bit more but the current TTK is pretty nice so far
>>559984161What makes you think that?>>559984275>HollidayFuck no she's perfect
>>559984220and cuck myself from an item slot? NO! Give it back
>>559984284Just punch it bro
>>559984229counterspell only blocks the damage you still get stunned
i hope they give vindicta her bonus souls backthey were so funalso who should i ban this new patch, still victor or should i ban calico now
>>559984275Holliday is literally perfect design. Sinclair is garbage though yes. It should be the last ability ever used not guaranteed ultimate stealing>>559984526victor is still OP icefrog tongues my anus
Get rid of the Unstoppable on Doorman's level 3 ult, make it so you cant regen stamina while inside the baroness.The -1 stamina is completely useless because youll just regen it by the time you need it anyway.
>>559984505>and cuck myself from an item slot?Most games end before you're full build but suit yourself
>>559984519Not true. You just have to counterspell as late as possible and you parry the stun too.
>>559984526I'm banning apollo because my team is constantly blind to CC items and feed in lane
>>559984596>make it so you cant regen stamina while inside the baroness.Calm down stalin
please...please just add spririt resist
>>559984284If this misfires, my team won't let me hear the end of it.
Hehe can't risk making him playable again by rolling back too many of the changes. I know we fucked up and made a 20% winrate character but just consider how funny it is making another character that wants half their build to be purple items :)))
>>559984519>>559984665The counterspell ALSO counters the new time slow that you normally get upon exiting, so you can leave the hotel at a full sprint
Drifter finally viable?
>>559984734i'm surprised they went with health buff instead of spirit res lol
>>559984052>Baroness is a Meet N' Fuck game where you need to give Lady Geist a sexy massage and then cream her hag pussy>You can only leave if she does a pregnancy test and it's positive
>>559984842>>559984734bro spirit resilience is 3200 why do you need more
>>559984498>>559984585Holliday kit apologists are just braindead contrarians with special boy syndrome>inb4 "you are... LE BAD"She's not hard to play bro.
Holliday is fun
>>559984734Wdym? spirit resist items already exist>>559984839Why is kelvin in gay tier? Why is holiday not in neutral?
>>559984978>Why is kelvin in gay tier?He and Seven were literally gay lovers
>>559984915What's wrong with her kit retard?
>>559984181Anything would be preferred to popping balloons and mindless farming for 70% of the game
>>559984915She's like the perfect hybrid character thoughever. She does a little bit of everything. Mobility, initiation, disable, gun damage, spirit damage, knockback. She's literally the perfect design
>Most cohesive kit in the game is... le bad!Fuck off back to Overwatch where you can be an aimlabs tranny all you want on Cree/Cassidy whatever the fuck.
>>559971643So they want to shoehorn Shiv into being a shitty DoT character, but they also want you to learn his very specific movement tech to do good with him? What the hell is this character man, nobody wants to play that shit but esportsfags. At the very least make his movement tech more intuitive, you need to shoot perpendicularly to your speed vector if you want to keep the momentum because lol I suppose. Even Shiv OTPs are huffing copium right now.
>tfw just got a venator melee nigger who kept on getting parried 10 billion times over and over and over againfucking hell, melee venator build deleted when icefraud?
Holy day jump pads need to be bigger, if I had a nickle for every time I walked over it and it just chose to not register it me...
>>559985270just wait till his shotgun creeps back up into raping people, it will be a while but it is inevitable
>>559985270>At the very least make his movement tech more intuitive,Sounds like you just want everything to be made easier
>>559985497its one of those ow/mr shitters who want meta defined shield heal poke faggotry
>>559982716I'm wondering which gives more raw damage in case I can only get one.>>559984526It's kinda fucked how they messed up her design, souls were the least concerning thing for a sniper like her to snowball because of boon cap + running out of stuff to buy. good luck ever making her balanced now when a cheater can easily stack +200-300% gun damage on her
>level 3 bell slow>cold front>mystic reverb delayed slow>slowing hex>superior duration so every slow lasts over a full second longer>enemy buys enduring speed and has 1 stamina on entry into the hotel>still checks out in timeThis is stupid. Hotel build is the most worthless gimmicky bullshit ever. The devs dont play their own game.
>>559985270>>559906838>>559906981samefag btw
>>559985623>good luck ever making her balanced now when a cheaterWhat kind of retard thinks a character is unbalanced because a literal cheater can do well with them?
>geist is untouchedI shall continue throwing bombs halfway across lanes with echo shard and making the whole lane a no fun zone.
>>559985270Why the fuck is this post causing so much seethe?Shiv's altfire movement is goofy as fuck
>>559984839>Holliday>not homophobic>Paige>not in have done gay things tier
Can I go back to playing Drifter now or is he still a rape victim to the broken heroes (like everyone else)
>>559985723nah
>>559985976His changes feel mixed, the silence is nice but the change to melee items on him hurt hard.
>>559985802not just "do well" anonthe character is kept in check by the fact that no one has perfect aim, moreso than almost any other character, it's how snipers typically work and why they are hatedbut even if they did have perfect aim, it wasn't a problem in the previous design, they introduced the "sniper problem" to a character that didn't have it previously.
>>559985224>holliday>Most cohesive kitNigga you can like her launchpad but calling her kit the most "cohesive" in the game is just ridiculous.
Outside of the strong patch characters, are there any dudes you just hate playing against? Dynamo’s kit pisses me off
>>559986306>Fuck off back to Overwatch where you can be an aimlabs tranny all you want on Cree/Cassidy whatever the fuck.
Where's the site where you can see the winrate of every hero?
>>559986254and you KNOW there will be cheaters, it is inevitable
What items do I buy as Mo in this new killy meta? I feel I just get shredded by m1ggers now
>>559986341I accept your concession.
>>559986338Mohammad & Kareem + Paige
when are they gonna finally buff graves gun
>>559985623not just cheaters, with the 4 second window for getting a kill on assassinate the character snowballs harder than drifter. and now with the parrying in flight the only way to somewhat deal with her presense is phantom strike
>>559986428Ffffuck
I seeeee yooooouuuu!~~
>>559986485>>559985623do you think there's any chance they revert is so she becomes the low farm prio permaroam kino champ she was meant to bei had so much fun with old vindicta
Let’s say you have an aimbot cheaterWould Vindicta or Holiday be worse to fight
>>559986485yeah that toothey somehow made her less fun, less balanced, harder to balance and more unfun to fight againstI don't know what to call that but "messing up her design"
Da baxtah sociuhtee
>>559985072Too silly for her backstoryIt's a goofy prospector type kit and the person with it is a dour divorcee cop chasing a nightmarish supernatural serial killer
>>559982843They were bleeding too many players
>>559986635Vindicta can scale damage infinitely, but no Holliday in the world can jumppad + repeatedly crackshot youso idk, in a 1v1 i'd say Holliday, in a typical match Vindicta
Did all the paranormal shit start happening only recently?Because otherwise I don’t blame those dudes for thinking Vindicta was a witch. There’s like 3 of them ingame
>>559986708has your nambah
>>559986873magic always existed but it only became public when the magic gates opened (50 ish years ago)
>>559984839>IvyShe asks Victor out to dinner, and sounds bashful enough about it in the delivery of the lines for me to believe it's not platonic
Wifwolf
Paradox support (in soloQ). Thoughts?
>>559986352look it up nigger
>>559986973Paradox refresher. Thoughts?
>>559986965based new yorker
>>559986965If he still needs to eat then that implies he has a functional dong no?
god mirage feels so goodis there anything I can buy to scale late? I feel like he falls off a cliff
>>559987061Do you think they gave Viktor a huge dong or a micro one to be petty?
>>559987061If his heart is pumping, the dick is working, and he has an entire ability about that
>>559987091>Ricochet>Silencer>InhibitorCongrats you debuff half the enemy team if fighting away from creeps>Escalating Exposure
>>559987005Terrible. Now answer the question!
>>559986965HE GON EAT A GLIZZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOO VICTOR EATIN A GLIZZYYYYYY
>>559987131He just hotswaps them out, but he prefers average size.
>>5599872053 pulse bombs will kill anyone though
Victor begging Paige to have normal sex for just one night and she folds her arms over her chest and demands he switch out his human dick for a horsecock
>>559987131My head-canon is that he has a absurdly long penis, too long in fact. Like so big any woman would refuse to have sex with him since it would be so painful.
>>559985270>>559985893normalfag+samefag
>>559985623>I'm wondering which gives more raw damage in case I can only get one.Okay. I can't answer that, but I'm pretty sure Mercurial Magnum stacks with the damage she gets from spirit, because the spirit damage scaling gives her extra base damage and Magnum is % damage.
>>559986039>plus-rend does more damage both upfront and with scaling-rend does a ridiculous 3s silence on a 9s cooldown with sup duration instead of 5s lifesteal buff-mark does bullet shred the whole time someone is bleeding instead of a brief fire rate buff on teleporting (you're buying firerate on this character anyway so having the rend be built into your kit is a buff)-rend has the t3 duration that nobody bought and nearly 50% cooldown reduction instead of charges as a t2 that you will actually use massively increasing this moves damage, letting you use it way more often to warp around the map tagging creeps and giving you more time to decide if you're gonna warp to someone escaping-rend gets a fat damage increase and heal debuff as the t3 for those superlong games where you actually get it when peoples hp starts to inflate like crazy-flat 3% damage on kill/assist means you aren't shit if you get killstolen and also is almost always a massive increase in how much weapon damage you build up because you can get assists for shit like blinding someone and then walking away. I had a +99 earlier today which would've required like 20+ kills before which was never happening in games you weren't destined to win anyway-18% heal on isolated kills > -15 cooldown when you have a passive and two moves with about that much cd anyway. -ult putting them in isolated for damage amp/healbane >>> shitty spirit damage on shots. comical +12 sprint combines with ults 100m range to let you easily enter fights or escape bad situations or even just fucking rotate super easily while spotting anyone who happens to be farming nearby. it also just has a better cooldown and longer duration.- like 12 items he likes to buy got buffed>minus-you cant use rend to ez confirm souls and get melee lifesteal on people under tower-rend has slightly worse range and cooldown but not enough to actually change when you'd use it-lifestrike is a lot worseyou call this shit mixed?
So what do you do as a knife Shiv against Victor? I assume you have to beg your team to build Toxic Bullets while incorporating more burst into your build like maybe skipping Decay for Silence and going Arctic and Tankbuster. Skip Point Blank and go Spirit Rend or Toxic Bullets with the obligatory Kinetic Dash?I got so frustrated in the next game I saw Victor in I left my lane around 7 minute mark to harass his lane and itemized strictly to counter him. Made it my mission to ruin his game and he did end up "only" 11/4 when he was 9/0 at around 10 min. I think we won.
>>559987654I was wondering about interacting with assassinate, since it gives a % damage of your bullets
so if apollo and infernus are both ixians then why is infernus very obviously a black guy
>>559987664i wrote rend when I meant mark for some of these but im sure you get the picture.btw the t2 rend change being huge duration buff + huge cooldown reduction works great because the cooldown starts as soon as you push the button, not when you warp. you can literally warp to someone and have another one almost read to throw out with sup duration (the item you buy every game because it buffs your entire kit + most of the items you love and now rend has more spirit scaling so you want that 4.8k even more)
>>559987823DEI
>>559985670you sure they're checking out and not just counterspelling the damage?
>>559987894You see that shit?
>>559987746Doesn't stack with that, same as any other % damage AFAIK. Mercurial Magnum is like extra % damage except it's dealt as separate instances of spirit damage, and % damage always scales off of your base damage. Easy enough to test in-game.
>>559988045I see, it probably counts as conditional damageI wish the game was more clear with what counts and what doesn't count as conditional
>>559986254I think designing characters around what a cheater is capable of is fucking retarded and tons of other characters would suck ass to deal with and be all but impossible to beat in the hands of one.
When are they adding buybacks this game is retarded without it>doorman sends you into their spawn>suddenly you lose boss and all your buiildings before you even respawnwho likes playing this shit?
hehehehe... you see that shit?
instant dopamine overwatch match or40 min cbt fest in deadlock, hmmm
>>559988314You vill donate 225 souls to Calico per death and you vill be happy.
>enemy is having a soul crushing torture chamber game>catch warden split pushing alone>he starts crab walking>join hima vestige of an older time
>>559988314>conveniently ignoring street brool existing
>Reach ritualistic>Games are full of stoned niggers playing Victor, constantly talking on mic, or nasal dorks playing Mina constantly talking on mic>Instead of calling out playing or if they're coming to help, they just say stupid shit like "Oh yeah, they came at me and I raked them dood"I want to be back in initiate
>>559988749you've crawled out of lobotomite rank to stoner silly guy rankcongratulations. enjoy your suffering
>>559988314back to shield heal pokeslop, blizztranny
>>559988163The ult damage is a permanent buff you get that gives you the same % Weapon Damage stat you get from e.g. Glass Cannon, and I'm almost certain it stacks additively with other sources of % Weapon Damage. You can see it in the buffs list on the left when you hold down tab, and this same buff category is also used for e.g. golden statue buffs which can give you 3% weapon damage.I'm not sure about the stacking details of Mercurial Magnum as the % damage from that doesn't show up as a buff on the UI the same way. I'm guessing it's a temporary aura, but I don't think there's anything else in the game that gives you the same kind of buff anyway.
>>559988749Its amazing how bad these players are, if you are stuck between initiate-ritualist you mostly likely either are playing with one hand and jerking off to lady geist, OR you are 80 iq
>>559988949there are also a ton of smurfs every other game
>shield heal pokeslopNew favorite buzzword soup
>>559986635Neither. It's haze. I've gone up against it>Entire match is permanent bullet dance from any range
how come no one ever ever uses mics in my gameshow do you guys get micced up niggas?
GETT'EM MO
>>559989227EUchads never use mics. NAggers yap and rage nonstop.
>>559989310i am NA and no one ever speaks
>>559989227Be the first to speak, also being higher rank will virtually guarantee people use mics.
shield heal pokeslop is what I call a paige lane
>>559989310>t. rusnigger blyat
>watch no name eternus streamer>playing with 2 femalesstreamers are hoarding all the good females. why can't i get an eternus gf to carry me out of shitlow
>>559986635aimbot holliday with competent movement would be impossible to 1v1. but the best damage a gun holliday can do is with all burst items like headhunter and mystic shot. add lucky shot, crippling and gc for dps, but she still won't do anywhere near as much damage as a fed vindicta can do. so while holliday has to wait for burst cooldowns, vindicta can 1v6 in the same time
>>559987823Fern's a crossbred
>>559989376im ritualist 2 and also scared to use my mic..maybe once i finish voicetraining i can talk
>>559989310Unironically trueAmericans fucking YAP in games.
>shoot enemy 1>shoot enemy 2>get behind cover>shoot creep 1>shoot creep 2>shoot creep 3>mark on enemy heroes is ready>edge jump to hit them behind their cover>marks on creeps are ready>need to calculate if creeps should be popped now or next cycle>boxes respawning>bridge buff in 10>sinners waiting>enemy marks are readyI'm having a blast with mirage but realizing that I can contribute to the creep wave by spastically flicking between everything in the lane constantly is going to make me crave adderall
is it a good idea to fuck around with bots matches when learning a new hero or do I just set myself up for bad habits
>>559989757just fucking send it bro, nothing matters
>>559989757I just use street brawl for trying out heroesObviously much worse for some heroes than others and some really don't work well but at least you're playing against actual people, bots move and act very weirdly
https://x.com/MOSTGAPEDMAN/status/2031620352166736098is this true?
>>559989757I dunno about matches. But playing against bots long enough to be able to do your basic combos is probably for the best. 10-15 minutes worth maybe
Why does Kelvin make so little damage???????
>>559990219>why does heal man of maximum utility not also do damageidk
>>559990219Because if he did damage he could just force 1v1s with his ult over and over on top of being super mobile and tanky.He might not do much damage but he does big health swings with his heals
>>559990219
>Everyone is playing pocket now that hes metaFuck you Get off my literally me main
>>559990179which one was it
>>559990219>make so little damage
I love Israel
>>559990680and a howdy to you too my fellow american
>>559990490Nobody actually cares about this right? Assuming its true.Really weirds me out seeing retards get defensive over stuff like this. Do they think game developers should never play any other games out of loyalty? Seems like a great way to end up shit at making games
>>559990716Valvefags are braindead company loyalists and think that only Valve can make entertaining games.That image is fake though
the hümble weighted shots, maybe the most underrated item in the game...the terrïble return fire, the worst item in the game...
>>559990680Me too and I also main Calico.
I do like that they removed a lot of innate fire rate bonuses from people's kits. One of the only nice things of the patch since fire rate is already the best way to increase gun dps
>hero pops ult>becomes less of a threatGreat design
>>559990680phull tech sapport saar
>>559990716>Nobody actually cares about this right? Assuming its true.Whats the scoop
istg every Apollo build in the browser wants torment pulse early and sure its a good item but i can't be the only one that thinks it feels like ass on apollo
>>559990780BACK TO SHIELD HEAL POKESLOP, CAPEFAG
how the fuck do you rank up fast in this game?i have like 70% win rate and going up in ranks is such a slogits going to take 100+ matches to get to oracle+ at this rate
>>559990994he spends a lot of time standing around next to peopleI can see why people would like it
Tanks take a fucking eternity to kill in Rivals it's so annoying
>>559991106The beefy characters in Deadlock take longer to kill
>>559991106More or less of an eternity than a post-20 minutes semi-decent Victor?
>>559991032NTA but you spam this so much, you really should get a life outside of this little 4chan thread my boyo.
>>559991210Deadlock's a moba
What character makes the best use of Magic CarpetDivebombing people with Mo sounds pretty funny
Are there items that penetrate or cancel metal skin?
>>559991219more in the sense that every support in rivals has stronger healing than victor, abrams and 2024 shiv's sustain combined, and triple support is meta in that game
>>559991283yet you read it every time <3 best part is that it makes you seethe everytime too
>>559991589Seen a couple lash players use itSinclair as well
>>559991662Curse
>>559978398>>559979218Silver can't afford to go outside her build because she needs core items that badly.
>>559992013Just like how she can't afford her rentSad, indeed
They could revert Silver to pre nerf state and she would still be weak.
They could make Silver's ult a 60 second cooldown and she would still be OP.
>>559992337>implying she's op nowDelusional
They could make Silver my wife and I would be happy
>>559991968How is curse different then silence?
>>559992446It makes a loud noise when it goes on you and scares you sometimes
>>559992392The only thing not making her OP are the other much worse hitlers terrorizing lobbies right now.
they rugpulled silvertrannies after baiting them into the game with unpaid xumblr xwitter fanartfags KEK
>>559992508All those silverfags that boughted the game for 0$ have fallen for yoshi's master plan
>>559990994It's by far the best item on him and consistently is top 3 sources of damage
>>559992476>the only reason she's not strong compared to the rest of the cast is because she's weak compared to the rest of the castI... see?
>>559992250>Silverfags are so delusional that they think on release silver the one that charged her ult in 2 hits or so and proceeded to rape the entire enemy team and her own team is not OPSad, if they actually liked silver they'd make her work and work around the nerfs instead of wanting an easy win button, just look at graves, shiv and holidayfags, their characters are either low tier trash or require high skill yet they still manage to make it work instead of bitching and moaning literally every. single. thread.
>>559992586The silver up-players don't even have arguments about her anymore they just call you a tranny/furfag
>>559992013>core items >literally cant hit the fliers without knockdownyou are full of shit, she even gets free resistances specifically to free up a slot
>>559992474Spoopy
>>559991340Deadlock is not ONLY a mobaIt's a hero shooter + moba
>>559992679>she even gets free resistances specifically to free up a slot>implying 15% (or 18%) resists saves you from being a big fat sack of easily headshotted shit with 2 staminagl burning your early souls on knockdown and still actually both doing enough damage to kill someone and survive getting into melee range by the WAY
>>559992570oh the lootbox cosmetics come later. the viral marketing from old gods update already worked
I saw a silver win a game today that means she's OP honestly.
>>559992924doesn't work if they nerf the yuribait characters so hard the people stop playing the game idiot
>>559992969>I saw a silver win a game today
>>559992586>>559992675>not OP/balanced = unplayableKEEEEEEEEEK silvertroons persecution complex
>>559992819?? Anything that would make this a hero shooter is already included in the ASSFAGGOTS moniker, movement tech existed before Overshart.
>>559992782super niche piece of fanart and I like it a lot.
>>559993037Okay?It's still a hero shooter + moba, it's not just a moba
>>559993002still whining about the game tho. free engagement
>overnerf silver's ult so hard that using it makes you weaker >reduce its cooldown Why did they nerf her even harder?
Vindicta is mad because they burned her at the stake for being a witchbut it turns out she is a witch so...
>>559993036>not OP/balanced = unplayable>implying that isn't a literal observable phenomenon in this patch
squishing and playing with silver's cookie like a stress ball
>>559993110third person shooter assfaggots
Silver upplayers are genuinely deranged.
>>559993191That sounds like the kind of thing that would hurt wtf>>559993170Maybe she only became a witch ironically after she got burnt at the stake
I liked bebop better when I didn't have to spastically spam uppercuts to stay alive, I liked it better when I could majestic leap in with bombs and instantly win a fight or immediately die if I missed or they counterspelled them. It was better that way
Why do objectives keep getting weaker They're already fucking anemic and do nothing but give Zipline distance
>>559993280Nah bro shes OP as fuck! Your ult form being a straight downgrade? Totally intended! You just suck!
>tfw keep forgetting whether silver's left arm or right arm is the wolf one even while I'm working on a pieceI think I might have brain problems
>>559993452Left
>>559993326the clit is in a little cave in the cookie so if you didn't squish too hard she would probably love it actually
>>559993428Because people, this thread included, complained that games take an hour. All recent changes were made to speed games up.
holy fuck does shiv suck. really tried to make it work, but they gutted that nigga
so did this patch actually do anything to bring down how disgustingly broken wraith/calico/victor/doorman are? I read the notes and the changes looked inconsequential.
>>559993228Semantics
>>559993180maybe don't use a game where rem+visc got shit on by silver as an example, silvertroony
>>559972190She's an assasin for hire she gets money for killing people DUH
>>559993452It's the arm she holds her gun with
>put on my programmer socks>upload silverwaifupic#2923>complain about not having free built in 90% omni res and not being able to instagib people>remind people that silver is bad in that one comp scene with 3 teams totalyep it's silverfag posting time
I'm so glad that scarab is a real abilitydjinniggas rise up
>>559993568>start semantics argument>complain about semantics
The cube massages your prostate
>>559993563no
>>559993280I'm 100% convinced they're low-mid ranked players who got a false impression of her because they/their teammates flat out don't understand that certain characters require you to play and build differently
>>559993570>got shit on by silverTake a closer look at the networths my friend, that's a black woman of valve originality special right there>>559993619But that's both arms when you really think about it...
>>559993563Calico is now Jason Voorhees instead of Gigahitler.
>>559993665Yet his winrate is stinky poopoo. I think they want to turn him into a tanky brawler but if you build tank then his mark does no damage so you're useless either way
>>559993768thats the joke
>point out that any other weak hero is weak>no one cares >point our that silver is weak>troons shit their pants and spam that silver is actually goodWhy are they like this?
>>559993663finally, fuck that faggot i swear to GOD. Same posts day in and day out.
>>559993768SILVERTRANNIES DO NOT KNOW THAT THE PORTRAITS ARE ORDERED BY LANES KEEEEEEEEK
>golden egg only nets you a 3k at best
Last game I can fit in today and I get some faggot whose game crashes long enough to get an abandon. Please note: if you're a poverty stricken piece of shit with a barely functioning PC or an Internet connection that drops frequently, please get the memo that you shouldn't be playing an online game and should instead stick to kicking a tin can around your dusty ass dirt road.
>>559993815>why do silver players keep talking about silver when I keep bringing up silver and engaging themhmm I wonder why you stupid ass retard
>Win 6 games in a row yesterday>Lose 5 games in a row todayValve stop with your forced 50.
>>559993815Silver Derangement Syndrome is a real thing, sadlyIt takes the sanity of dozens of /dlg/enizens every yearLook at the state of this poor soul >>559993826
>>559993824at this point I'm convinced that this is either 1 mentally ill terminally online waifufag or some coordinated discord shitposting.it's the same shit EVERY DAY for days on end now.
>>559993881Silvertroons are the ones that insist she's strong? Makes sense
>>559993903>silvertrannies crying about a balanced hero that got buffed 2 patches in a row>derangement projectionlmao learn to play
>>559993836you have to hodl longerdo NOT panic sell KEEP HANDS OFF COLD STORAGE
These balance changes the last few months are so stupid. Nobody even seems to use Venator's kit like they did at launch, they just try to play him as diet abrams. What a sad waste of a neat kit
Why does mcginnis have 60% wr and what happened to rem for him to dip to 44%
>>559993943Yeah the silvertroons that insist silver isn't underpowered are really annoying and obviously coordinated on some discord. Why do they deny the reality that Silver is trash and got nerfed way too hard for no reason?
At this point I honest to god can't tell which group of silverfags is trying to blame which group of silverfags for whatAll I know is look at this Silver
>>559993970Silvertrannies think that 2 miniscule and irrelevant buffs makes a shit hero good. It doesn't, Silver is still dogshit.
>>559993520Just remove walkers and guardians if games need to go faster
>>559993550I had a match where I played him like a spastic and then their Apollo just spammed the same barrel-sized advance on me and ulted becoming unkillable and then I died.
If I'm 1/11 but I'm the guy who got all 3 guardians am doing something wrong or is just a bad game since nobody else on my team could get them down?
I see posts bringing up venator McGinnis and rem but I see you guys only want to talk about silver
>>559993520I don't get why they keep nerfing walkers/guardians when the problem has alwas been base sieging.
>>559994219we need more information
>>559993792it's a strong playstyle and definitely how he's designed to function. I've been having good games buying radiant regen and boundless as his only purples and stacking greensthe moment he grabs boundless he becomes the strongest character in the match. problem is he falls the fuck off if you don't choke out the opponent during his power spike and snowball
IN HERE, I AM QUEEN
>>559994219depends on your soul count vs enemies
>>559994219getting objectives is not enough to make up for the fact that they have a walking soul urn on their team because that means they lose every urn/mid boss contest.objectives are not worth being down 1 player pretty much ever because this isnt like league or dota 2 where some heroes can rat their way into a win. deadlock is pure brool.
>>559994247legit think it's some mental case stirring shit on both sides
>>559993678Calling it just a moba is not accurate nor is it semantics
>>559994301The more I try to think about it the more I have my answer and the less I think I want to pursue the question>>559994376 lowest in the whole game, the whole game that's normal for me though>>559994425I shouldn't have asked...
>>559994445Ahhh the good old days where people thought supporting was throwingIt was a different time
>Mirage 38% wr>Mcginnis 60% wr>Calico 56% wr>half the character roster has become either useless or overtuned to shit>seven buff for some reasonSo is this yoshi's vision?
1 second buff and you go mad
please revert the ivy changes she isn't fun anymore
>>559994606that's horrific
>dealt more damage than anyone>still lostI hate it
>>559994606I think they're honest to god trying shit out and people should be more patientI also think they themselves should actually be more patient and get more than a day or two's worth of results out of the shit they try
>>559994716And get back her weapon scaling up to 0.15 per boon please
>>559994572helping your team get guardians is fine. just don't sit there and attack it all day long. Souls and items are better. like punching sinners
>>559994716THISI want double tether and early stun duration backI didn't pick Ivy to play yet another fucking scaling spirit DPS god damn it
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>>559994757I'd rather they throw shit at the wall and see what sticks because safe designs are boring ones but manman.
>>559993170Not really, she is a flying ghost serial killerthe most witchy thing she does is having murders of crows as familiars.
>>559979107That fire rate buff is not instant retardo-kun, it's divided by 15, each swipe giving that amount of attack speed. If you managed to let her stack it you are just garbage.
>>559971340>paradox building implosion nerfedDamn
>>559987295He's a ken doll, no pp. All of you know this stop coping.
