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Thief edition

>Game Info:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/
>Marathon Game Home Page
https://www.marathonthegame.com/

>Gameplay Trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWwXSb7dlnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXhQbF7TlbA

>The Entire History of Marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhk
https://marathon.bungie.org/story/

>Play the Original Marathon for Free
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/

Databases:
https://tauceti.world/
https://tauceti.gg/
https://marathonmeta.gg/

News:
>MARATHON TERMINALS ONLINE IN DIRE MARSH
https://cryoarchive.systems/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Xl543pQOw

>SEASONS & ROADMAP
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon

>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUT
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0

Previous Run: >>559949076
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when is it back up
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Do we get changelogs?
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Marathon lost
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>>559985126
3:30AM PDT (1 hour from now.)
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>>559985074
>Thief edition for the 213456th time
brainrotted faggot
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>>559985276
I just checked the last 10 threads and none of them were Thief editions. What are you talking about?
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It's so over sisters...
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>>559985276
recontranny melty because thief mogs his main in every way
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Are you able to barter for MIPS ammo at all? I've yet to see it show up.
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The General Sam video is unironically gonna save us when it comes out in 6 months.
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>>559985103
A form of immortality and constant adventure isn't that bad a deal considering everyone else also has to deal with the corpo bullshit regardless if a Runner or not.
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>>559985137
reposting shit from /gif/ or whatever is boring, trib some thief fanart so it's at least on topic
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oh man.
Look, Marathon I love you guys, but the loot system for bartering is not great.

Barter items needed for faction upgrades are not worth using for ammo/items.

Selling "treasure" items for credits yields significantly more benefit.

2 mediocre rook runs = 10-15k
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>>559985492
Why are you reposting tweets
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>searching marathon videos on youtube
>after a while, YT recommends mostly marathon doomer videos
it surely isnt a psyop
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When do we fight the Pfhor?
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so 2.5k bots confirmed..... it stalled out at 20k for a bit, im pretty sure that is were the bot count is. thats fucking insane that they are botting that many. i would have figured 15k max. but that snoy and budgie are botting over 20k players is mad cringe. (and sad af)
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>>559985492
what form of mental illness is this
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>>559985492
you are not coming out with 10-15k in 2 rook runs. you fucking IDIOT
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>>559985448
The issue really is that at least you could pretend you had a sense of autonomy as a human. There's nothing stopping a corp from just putting you in a drawer or turning off whatever quantum computer your brain is being ran on.
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>>559985586
Based schizoanon
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>>559985460
Thats my dick tho
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>>559985640
>t. bot
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>>559985586
bot post
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>>559985586
See >>559985607
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>>559985492
They vary, some of them are quite worth it.
>2 mediocre rook runs = 10-15k
That's quite above average for anything outside of pinwheel rook runs which are the real problem here.
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>>559985541
>youtube recommends whatever brings most engagement
google and media really fucked humanity up with this bullshit, just hate farming because people are wired that way
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>>559985586
my game is open, am i bot? you people are incredibly low iq
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>>559985586
maybe those are used by bungie for testing updates. they would want a lot of accounts to make sure things work
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>>559985616
Unless there's some more lore I've not unlocked yet, a rather annoying "feature" when it comes to lore discussion but I digress, Runners seem to be free agents and not outright property unless they pledge themselves to a corp.
If Arachne and Charter are anything to go by then Runners are capable of getting enough clout and capital independently to the point where they can rub shoulders with the big corps and get officially recognized by the UESC.
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I've still never done a lockdown event cause I play solo 98% of the time. Seems like it'd also be a shit show with randos since they might not have consumes for it.
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Did she like it?
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>>559985586
It is insanity to think they are botting at all if they're not botting a majority of the playerbase.
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>>559985867
it looks like you were on a free kit; where'd you find that shield on this map?
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Are these "bots" in the room with us right now?
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>>559985970
Already in the server slam i was running out of people to matchmake with
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do i buy the thief skin im not crazy about it but i wanna support the game unironically
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>try to look up marathon videos on youtube
>it's all hate content and "MARATHON IS OVER" videos
fuck off man
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Watching Youtube videos will make me God
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>>559986013
did you already get the premium battle pass? i was thinkin about it
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>>559985827
The biggest problem with the fill system is trying to do specific shit like that, yeah.
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>>559986013
rabbit background will make me god
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>>559986014
theres a few positive channels that are doing pretty well, hiddenxperia has good lore videos and azteccross has been enjoying it
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Not hating, just genuinely curious on the numbers of Marathon. Does anyone notice a particular concerning... Trend... If you're Bungie or Sony, with this line:
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>>559985982
>where'd you find that shield on this map?
>Find
I took it by force
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>>559986013
the snowbunny skin is pretty nice desu
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>>559985970
there is evidence of fake player characters in game. ai teammates.
>>559986004
the server slam was a test for there bot solution. this is an ai slop game, played by majority bots. it drives fake engagement so they can report decent things to shareholders. we totally have a playerbase guys. people are playing the game.!
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>>559986051
Someone post the Marathon RAPE edit
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>>559986109
pic?
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The only thing you should worry about is queue times.
It doesn't matter whether the peak is at 10k, 50k or 100k as long as you get sub 2min queues.
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>>559986061
yea i have the pass and like the midnight decay skin best but im thinking of the shop thief one just to give a little extra support
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>>559986149
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>>559986194
It looks like shit bro
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did they fix the battle pass voucher duplication yet
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>>559986223
nah you just have bad taste
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>>559986194
feels meh, but ty
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>>559986256
Cope
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>>559986320
dont get mad
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>>559985689
>https://litter.catbox.moe/3mjzuv0z6t6kmdrj.jpg
hii that was me :3
||pr0cy0nl0t0r|| we should play together!
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>>559985867
That gun doesn't do damage when I use it.
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>>559986194
ehh I prefer default desu the contrast of the dark hair and lipstick against the pale skin looks better than all pastel
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Marathon is coomer bait
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>>559985689
>https://litter.catbox.moe/3mjzuv0z6t6kmdrj.jpg
Did your dick get mauled by a pitbull?
Im trying to figure out whats going on with your dickhead but I cant
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>>559986014
Algorithm hasn't picked up on the extremely dedicated fanbase the game does have yet.
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>>559986346
He had to dump two whole mags into her so it wasn't doing damage for him either.
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>>559985647
yeah and I wanna see it jizzing on thief's face, fag.
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>>559986568
That's because he can't aim
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>>559986467
Leave her alone, bub *growls*
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>>559986467
Disgusting.

more pics?
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>>559985689
me as a Thief >.<
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>>559986616
No there was plenty of hitmarkers there.
The gun's awful recoil is also a pretty big reason for why it fucking sucks.
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The cut scars make me sad. No one should have to feel like that.
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Is this update the cyro update or what?
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>>559986467
i'm uncut and it was cold that's all
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>>559987000
They should have done that idea about heat level directly affecting thermals it was an amazing idea
Also checked treblès
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20 more minutes!
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>>559986616
>they didnt hit every shot at 50m so they suck

people who say shit like this never post footage. also the overrun has like the worst range of any gun in the game.
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>>559987000
I don't know if that ammo buff on the Overrun is enough but that's nice because it does genuinely feel it has fuck all by default lol
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>>559986757
It isn't exactly an issue with the gun, more with the baseline stat package being a piece of shit that gets noticeably better with optics, attachments and mags. I'm pretty positive bumping the default mag size to 25 will also help it be that mid-range cheap option that still rewards consistent hits to the head.
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>>559987141
>also the overrun has like the worst range of any gun in the game.
This part isn't true and it's the weapon's main argument against just taking a pistol. It technically has the literal range stat at like 45.
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>>559987151
Should have been 10
All the guns in this game have apex syndrome
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>>559986346
>doesn't do damage
>>559987000
Thanks for the buff, will make good use of the +5 bullets.
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>>559985374
You can barter with other players by giving them a mag of light ammo for whatever they have in their bag
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>>559987339
I was feeling 10 would've been better, yeah. Or maybe they just did 5 because they felt the increase on the max ammo capacity would've been too much with mods but even then 5 is kinda eh.
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>>559987000
Where's the changelog?
>>559987221
Mag size will help a lot, yeah. Its largest problem was the mag just cutting you off from an actual kill.
My problem though is that it gets better with mods but never THAT much better, or better than other weapons with mods. I'd rather a white of that shitty semi-auto rifle combined a white CE tactical over a green overrun.
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>>559987380
Please carry me to victory anone
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>>559987000
are thermals rare? i never find any but everyone seems to have them...
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>>559987426
For a gun that costs 100 credits, the attachments giving it staying power in mid-range shootouts is still a very good spot. I'd be a bit pissed if it was honestly just straight up better than any other AR options with a bigger price tag. Especially the M77, which has a series of integrated optics.
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>>559987000
WHERE DO U SEE THE NOTES??????????
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>>559987000
>180m to 100m

Looool
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patch notes will make marathon good
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>>559987000
>100m
Algae farm roof still totally fucked
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>>559987426
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_0_0_4

Also lol
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>>559986098
>Start PC
>"How is Marathon doing?"
>Check out SteamDB
>Pic rel
Sistas, I hope there's some trouble with servers and thousands of people just unable to play, otherwise it doesn't look good.
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honestly the best change in the patch

im a broken wing abuser and it seriously makes getting into pinwheel a joke
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>>559987556
im lvl 40 and only found one, and i accidentally sold it
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oh nononono
rookbros not like this
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>>559987000
why not just remove thermals entirely tho? they made the game foggy on purpose so why add a scope that completely removes the fog
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>>559987661
Honestly the best change when it comes to solo players. They should honestly keep the pre-patch levels of UESC health for trios though.
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>>559987684
>>559987702
All rooks sentenced to an eternity in the temporal ball exploding machine
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>>559987674
Yeah servers are in maint for an update
At least read the thread before you make your shitpost
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>>559987702
Okay, I see.
I guess I'll just camp at exfils as usual.
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Why?
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i never did pinwheel as rook so this was a buff to me
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>>559987578
Yeah, I can see that, given its various problems aren't its raw on-paper DPS. I might give it a bit more of a go modded esp after this buff.
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>>559987402
bongland unfortunately
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>>559987834
For me to CAMP
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>>559987702
I don't know what this means :)
>>
IM IN
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>>559987661
I wonder if this could make knife assassinating grenadiers viable with melee damage. It already wasn't far off but they'd get a shot in.
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>Temporarily disabled switches access route to the Broken Wing on Outpost
Hope you got your pinwheel loot guys.
To be fair this was needed, it was way too easy to speedrun.
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surely they fixed the knife skin bug right?
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I have never been inside pinweel
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>>559987834
Because it was ludicrously small. From one end of a perimeter relay to the other had the shot be quite and echoy.
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>>559987661
I was really expecting this to be a whole lot of fucking nothing but they're already starting to address shit to make the game better like less bullet sponge enemys, trying to nerf thermal scopes, making rook get more exp and rep.
Hopefully they keep listening and make even better changes.
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>>559987438
>Please carry me to victory anone
I don't have gear, I'm not good enough to 1V2 using garbage
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>>559987880
You could get into pinwheel via destroyed wing by shooting four power boxes located around it. If you knew where they all were it was very very trivial and so it was meta esp for rook players because there was no requirement and every round turned into a rook bumrush of that wing.
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i still havent gotten my first twitch drops, did anyone else? i wanted the worm sticker...
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>>559988025
Ooh. I thought that run where I just followed some randoms and we were in the pinwheel in under 5 minutes was a bit odd.
I just assumed they brought keys or something.
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>>559987834
Probably because you could really just go loud after you knew two or sometimes even one team were down with relative safety.
>>559987967
>had the shot be quite and echoy.
Based on the wording I don't assume they're changing this, but changing how far off it exists in that echoy state, which WAS pretty far.
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>>559987834
quite frankly there wasn’t enough PVP in the game so hopefully this should result in more exciting engagements
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>Fixed an issue where Rook’s position was not being displayed on the map screen.
Oh thank God.
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>>559987380
>hit almost every bullet
>still killed on the very last one
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>>559988160
As it should be for a white vs green.
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>>559987639
100m is not very far at all; significantly easier to skirt around that area
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I would much prefer if this game was just a battle royale instead of being an extraction shooter
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>>559988141
Fucking lmao and people were saying this was intended because "Rooks don't have an ONI."
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>>559987702
>>559987684
>including the additional silent method
What method are they talking about here?
Is there currently any other way other than the keycard elevators which spawn USEC?
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>>559988221
Most people just want this to be a normal pvp game or a single player shooter, but bungie wants that gaas money.
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>>559988008
that gear is not garbage what rocks are you smoking?
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>>559988221
I would prefer if the game was a team shooter where shells fight against UESC.
could even have some looting or pve mechanics and everyone in the team shares the loot value at the end.
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>>559988241
you need a conveyance key, it is found in the tunnels below ahh i cannot remember the name, but its like the left hand side factory sorta area? big garage area, it spawns down there then you can use it to drop the drone to ride it up
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Patch notes are out
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3065800/view/542258317343329107?l=english
>buffed Rook
>nerfed USEC health
>removed the broken wing entrance to Pinwheel
>nerfed thermals
aiieieeeeee
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KNIFE FIXED BRAVO BUNGI!!!!!
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>>559988330
Oh, huh, neat
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How long does it take to fill the goypass?
I can't play at all this week but I want the Arachne skins
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>>559988274
That gear is not garbage for 1V1 ambushes, it's not powerful enough to fight off 3 faggots
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>>559988360
Rook isn't buffed.
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>>559988231
ngl I assumed it was an intentional but weird choice. It's such and odd bug that I assumed would've been patched between the slam and release if it wasn't intended
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>>559988360
>everyone's saying great changes
>only complaint is performance related
It seems the game is recovering even on steam
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>>559988467
The passes are permanent, you are fine.
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>>559988608
Probably didn't want to fuck with the map system too much too quickly in case they made it worse.
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>>559988625
Huh.
There has to be some fomoshit somewhere, no?
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it's up
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>>559988656
You'll be missing out on the game as it is right now. That's it.
The obvious thing that will change is where and what loot spawns. More maps will either dilute this as it's spread out or make changes to the faction progression to include new loot the new map in the new seasons bring. So meta progression will be different.
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>>559988695
my penis
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>>559988656
Yeah getting in an experiencing Marathon™ before Sony shuts it down!
But unironically
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>bring in kit
>trade with knife
yea... you seriously cant rock an AR indoors unless you can hit all headshots
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>>559988656
Not much besides what the other anon mentioned. I'd imagine the paid skins will rotate in and out so there is that for FOMO maybe.
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I'd uninstall desu
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>>559988757
Put the cock away anon there's running to do
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>>559988809
the game needs more exfils or something else
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>>559988656
There's a fomo knife skin on the pass. It seems like there'll be at least one limited time item on every pass.
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>>559986098
early user numbers rely on word of mouth and feeds are filled with people hategasming the game for clicks
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>>559988888
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why am i spawning directly beside people in solos?
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>>559988976
Friend :)
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Time to run.
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>>559988809
Actual subhuman bahaviour
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>>559989096
Time to suck

-Thief
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>>559989225
Wait, but I’m playing Thief…
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>>559988809
is your aim ok bro
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>>559988865
destroyah
put your dick away destroyah
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https://x.com/i/status/2031498746736132379

Destiny players: the reward pass doesn’t feel rewarding
Bungie: here’s 100 more levels for you to grind for the same shit

Marathon players: the reward pass doesn’t feel rewarding
Bungie: here’s 6 more skins and you get one of Pete’s cars at the end please don’t leave our game
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>>559989297
destiny players deserve everything they put up with
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>>559989297
and then they come here and spew they raped traumatized bullshit
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>knife bug wasnt fixed
...
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>13k after patch
Grim…
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I want Charter's knives so bad ..
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Charter sexo...
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>>559988309
Nah that's gay and it'll just end with everyone zooming to the extract like warframe
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>>559989297
raped by bungie award
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>>559989547
>its lunchtime on a Wednesday in Europe and early morning in the US, why is nobody playing my game?
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>>559989547
THIEF SISTERS

WE GOTTA SUCK THESE NUMBERS UP
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>>559989623
The times I tried to play Destiny were like this where people would just run as fast as they could to the end skipping as much as possible, as a new player it's like wtf is going on.
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>>559989547
-2500 login spoofing bots
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>>559988793
>>bring in kit
>>trade with knife
>>559988793
>AR indoors
Positioning, anon, you should be jewing it
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Knife is genuinely the best weapon in any freekit thoughbiet
Including the bully
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>>559989852
i would uninstall
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>>559989961
knife is the best weapon in the game outside of meta shit like shotgun or thermal snipers. The knife can kill people faster than most guns.
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>>559989961
Me too, I can't take it anymore. Horror game, too challenging...
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>>559989096
unfair. why do I have to be a wagie?
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Are controls on controller just fucked? Could they really not make a UI that could work with consoles so you don't need a fucking fake mouse cursor to navigate menus? Is there even any way to make the cursor speed go faster?
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>>559989917
Need a gold implant so you can do the fucking absurd Halo sword/CoD commando lunge
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>>559989852
Is controller actually that easy lmao
You weren't even aiming at her head and you still got headshots
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>>559990092
Real
By the time I even get any purple weapons it'll be wiped... I wish I was good...
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>stalking an assasin solo for like 15 mins
>almost ready to kill him
>sniper UESC cracks me
>he notices
>kills me
...
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>>559990110
Fuck that, give me a crack head shell who is only good at knifing.
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>>559989664
its primetime OCE hours
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>>559990208
This is a white man's game
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>>559990110
I want the destroyer one that gives him extra knife damage after a boost to jumpscare people more
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>>559990167
Moral of the story:
- don't be a pussy
- assertive, aggressive, rapistic gameplay only
- freekits only
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>>559988656
Don't worry, bungie will find a way to rape you with fomo in the future, it's the only thing they are good at.
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>>559990208
Yeah and the game just got back up half an hour ago
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>>559988809
you just know that guy's skin is brown. that is disgusting.
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>>559989664
Judging by the SteamDB graph the game isn't popular in Europe in the first place, it gets some numbers only in Burgerland prime time.
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Shroud can't believe how hard Marathon is:

"I can't believe they made a game this hard... like you play ARC Raiders and it's like you're playing Hello Kitty Adventures.”
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>>559990323
>- don't be a pussy
>- assertive, aggressive, rapistic gameplay only
>- freekits only
Buff your kit by summoning the Divine Spider. Make it a 2V1 ambush, no fair fights.
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>>559990512
*explodes your balls with my mind*
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>>559990512
https://youtu.be/ZpSrCSkP1Eo
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Is it morally correct to finish someone during the 10 sec exfil countdown, knowing you wont have time to loot them?
What if they retained their loot and matched with you agin, then used said loot to kill you and steal your stuff?
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>>559990512
who?
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>try to play normally
>get owned
>play by sneaking about, sit in a corner the second i hear someone and shoot them in the back when they're distracted
>feel gross
No winning.
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>>559990512
Shroud is a loser faggot that kills little kids in videogames and then thinks he is great at the game
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>>559990719
>to finish someone during the 10 sec exfil countdown, knowing you wont have time to loot them?
I do that 99% of the time.
Not for loot, it's just... My pleasure.
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>>559990719
Arc Raiders basedjaks are so funny.
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>3+ years of internal testing
>12 months of alphas and betas feedback + server slam
>still needs to do sweeping balance changes 6 days into live

pvp games are so fucking cooked. it's going to be like this every single week for as long as the game is up
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is it me or randoms are getting better?
i stopped getting into matches with retards everyone seems to know what they are doing more or less.
i guess people just learned the game
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>>559990896
>sweeping balance changes
If only. They didn't do shit.
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>need to smash glass
>don't wanna give away my location and die
mmm
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>>559990936
Only the sweats are on right now, it's 7:24 AM. Wagies and kids are out there being slaves
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>>559991093
>Wagies and kids are out there being slaves
:(
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>>559990896
Yeah its crazy to me they had so much time in development and they're just now doing shit like making it so rook can see himself on the map or fixing the knife skin bug or basic balance shit like figuring out the thermal scope is super fucking broken.
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Why do people sleep on heat grenade
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>>559991080
Take a freekit and stop caring.

Go outpost. Be loud. Kill the first person you see. Skin them. Skin them twice.
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>>559991187
Because people tend to kill themselves with it since it doesn't bounce and explodes on contact.
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>>559990323
wah~ so wise and hardcore!
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MIDA MEANS REVOLUTION.
REVOLUTION NEEDS MORALE.
GET OUT THERE RUNNAH
>contract: fellate 15 enemy runners [using the thief shell+++]
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>>559991405
kek
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>>559991378
the arcsissies general is two blocks down sister
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>>559990719
better yet, I down them and blow them out of the exfil with vandals cumblast, last night we cucked an entire team doing this, we were also all out of ammo and running free kits so we were fighting for the extract essentially.
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>>559990591
>deploy in Hauler
>runs around door frames for 5 minutes
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>>559991405
>Mars is space Australia
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>>559991405
I'm a big fan of how quickly their shit escalates from punk to terrorist
>Break some windows
>Tag some art
>Steal bio weapon/cure findings for dissemination
>blow up transport ships
>disrupt supply lanes
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>>559991405
are anarchists actually the good guys?
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>>559985867
damn this game really is just destiny but as boring as possible
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>>559990896
Designed by trannies, coded by Indians
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>>559991789
They're Martian ultra nationalists that think purging 10% of their population for pro-Earth sympathetics was justified
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this game is absolutely botted btw
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>>559991850
but they seem to be heavy anti-corpo/world government, which is a good thing
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>>559990936
I had like 10 games without dying in a row yesterday, just with randoms.
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Did they fix quest markers not appearing on the map?
Like MIDA's tagging contract. Or DCONs.
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>>559990936
You're just winning the gamble and getting the non room temp IQ randoms.
remember in this game for you to win others have to lose. those retards are someone else's problem.
for now.
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>>559991368
All the grenades throw retardedly and not how you expect. Seems like you have to aim where you want the grenade to land but this isn't like most games, and if you want to throw it over something it doesn't make sense.
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>>559991924
>anti-corpo/world government
Anon those two things are explicitly and directly opposed in this game.
MIDA also apparently has massive economic backing, presumably specifically because they work to destabilize USEC.
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>>559991827
>>559991918
add something about how its a kike game and also somehow made for nazis so you just tick all the boxes, also mention how it needs more pve and more pvp but also less pvp and less pve, just to be thorough.
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>>559991343
>skin a runner
>skin two
>have a liquid cheeseburger in a nearly empty south relay 4mins until final extract
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The Marathon discourse has been pretty wild. I have never seen this many people vehemently hate a game of this quality. If the PR run leading up to release had been different, I don't know if the backlash would be anywhere near what it is.
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>>559992031
MIDA is backed in various way by all the corps for the same reasons the Runners are. Plausibly deniable operations.
But while the Runners are scalpels MIDA is a rabid dog and it will bite the corps that feed it if they let it get too strong.
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>>559991137
Do the (((work from home))) thing saar, it's great
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The gameplay loop is so addicting. I’m trash at the game but it’s still so much fun.
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>>559992246
I wonder if there is also an exasperation effect happening due to how poorly Bungie has treated its D2 community where the community is using the discourse as payback and it is just escalating.
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>>559990656
I watched this and seriously don't get what the fuck he crashed out about
Like, I'm not defending him, this makes him look like a complete fucking retard
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Why is the twitter/reddit reposter here as well?
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>>559992064
Then you just get every /v/ tourist in the steam forums
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>>559991752
>>deploy in Hauler
>>runs around door frames
I noticed the drone has no problem, when you drop it in open space first. Every time I throw it in a room, the spider becomes retarded. When I throw it next to a room, it just runs inside and assrapes everyone.
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>>559990656
what's wrong with that guy
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Just stole a triage's milk as thief
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>>559992338
He's mad his own game actually died in a month.
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>>559992301
nta but Im working from home.
but Marathon is not a game I would want to interrupt mid-session because Im getting a call.
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https://x.com/i/status/2031502576668041387

Pay up.
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>>559992246
Looking at the negative reviews on steam, it seems bungie fucked up the marketing somehow, because most simply don't understand that its an extraction shooter, most reviewers were expecting Arc Raiders in FPS format, literally in their own words. Saying the game is too difficult and that it is impossible to play solo, etc etc.
This could have been somewhat lessened if they made sure to mention that the game is essentially a more casual arcadey Tarkov with Hunt Showdown's streamlined matchmaking.
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claymores are best grenade. its insane they stack to 3.
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>>559992687
>most reviewers were expecting Arc Raiders in FPS format
most people are retarded, do you want to play a game made for retards?
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>>559991405
do they actually have anything usefull in their tree?
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>>559992728
>claymores are best grenade
All of the actual grenades are fucking insane
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TO PROVE YOURSELF TO MIDA,

In Perimeter:

TURN ON A GAS STOVE WITHOUT THE IGNITOR IN SOUTH RELAY

PUT UTENSILS IN THE MICROWAVE AT STATION

(in a single run)
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am i doing good?
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>>559992891
AND EXFIL
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>>559992687
Bungie was incredibly clear it was an extraction shooter from the very first trailer.
The big upset, imo, is that Arc raider was by and far the most popular extraction shooter among the mass market and it is not like other extraction shooters.
People expected Marathon to be more like Arc Raiders when Arc Raiders is the exception and it's not like anyone can really blame these people if their only exposure to extraction shooters is the most PvE focused one and that has aggressively segregating matchmaking to boot.
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>>559991782
They were always terrorists they just gave you crazier shit to do once you show you're down for the cause
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>>559992506
that game was so shit looking too
who wants to play 2 characters
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so game is pretty pointless and worthless if you’re not good at PVP, especially solo, right? I’m not crouching and hiding at the edge of the map to enjoy the game, some of these cunts I go up against are cracked as fuck

and the USEX bots are just window dressing, the main enemy is other players and looting is a tiny element of what the game is about, yeah?

god fucking damn it I love the art and atmosphere, but it sounds like I must return to Arc Raiders leaving my beloved Vandal behind, absolutely devastated
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>>559992246
I really genuinely don't see what people are talking about when they say this game is quality.
Stuff like solos is obviously a last minute inclusion and not balanced at all, weapon balance is fucked and everyone just uses the sniper and shotgun, the game has a lot of performance problems and bugs from basic shit like seeing yourself on your map or giving yourself infinite currency for just turning the game back on, 2 maps at launch and we had to wait for the third and we're still waiting on the 4th, one single enemy type and its just a massive bullet sponge, the horrible battle pass that was so bad they're currently adding more shit to it, exploits like rooks just speed running the back door to pinwheel to print infinite money, ect.
This is a game I could see being great after a wipe or two for them to patch it up and add some more content but its blatantly unfinished.
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>>559993161
faggot
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>>559993182
>I really genuinely don't see what people are talking about when they say this game is quality.
because it FEELS good man
its god VIBES

like how cool is it that one of the guns names is funny
and all the items have funny names too
so SOUL
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>walk up to a golden man
>my screen obliterates
wtf
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>>559993161
play on a controller for legal aimbot to easily do better in pvp, but right now this game sucks as a solo if you don't want to sweat and do nothing but pvp since theres no good pve content to do.
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>>559993161
You don't need to be 'good' at pvp. You can get by staying out of people's way.
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>>559993353
me when I'm about to get railed by a trio
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>>559993161
>I’m not crouching and hiding at the edge of the map
Don't need to, just don't be scared to stalk someone. Game's still "fresh", chances are someone is scared of you.
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>>559993161
no you can and should just shoot people in the back

kinda someone has to find the loot somewhere before others can steal it

dont know
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played thief and i didnt have a single homosexual thought
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can PCler even slow walk to make less noise?
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>>559993182
>I really genuinely don't see what people are talking about when they say this game is quality.
The game looks pretty and has a unique aesthetic, the letdown is that the game sucks if you're solo, Arc Raiders had it right with enemies either being melee or firing physical projectiles that can be avoided allowing for skilled solo players to take down big enemies that in this game need 5+ minutes or a trio. Basically i'd be playing Arc Raiders right now if they hadn't made everything so intentionally UGLY. Oh and fps > tps so Marathon has that too I guess.
TLDR: Everything except the metagame is good
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>>559993583
zipline is a homosexual ability
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>>559993707
Also the shitass AI voices in arc are really grating
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>>559992993
>it is not like other extraction shooters.
>People expected Marathon to be more like Arc Raiders when Arc Raiders is the exception
Iunno about that. If you look at the "big three" of extraction shooters then its Tarkov, Hunt and Arc Raiders and they're all very very different from each other. You can also consider Helldivers as a pve only extraction game and it blew the fuck up too and is also very different from the other 3.
Helldivers and Arc Raiders are the most popular ones and they're also the ones that lean into pve or are exclusively pve.
Marathon just tried to be a Tarkov clone but with hero shooter mechanics while recycling shit from Destiny like its legendary effects..
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>>559993182
>sniper and shotgun
This was like the meta for Destiny. Very rarely would it change because Bungie can't weapon balance.
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>Solos is too punishing
Recon is friend to no one.
Prey to none.
Predator to all.
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can't believe they removed the destroyed wing access.....its maraOVER
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an h-game extraction shooter would dominate the genre
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>>559993583
played thief
>blow both my teammates
>they get shot
>trio comes up
>makes me blow them
>another trio rolls up
>somehow don't go down
>trio rolls up to loot
>blow all them too
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>>559993924
>the destroyed wing access
So purple gear is now pricier, yes? If I steal it with free kit it'll cause more seethe
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>>559991789
Sometimes they can be alright, but it's like the USA funding Bin Laden and Alquaeda against the Soviet Union only to then have to fight them later
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>Been in queue for over a minute and a half
EoS soon
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>>559993997
go back to /2dhgg/ or go all the way back to /weg/ if you're a faggot.
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>>559992512
Hey I also take calls at work!!!!!!
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>Interested in fighting nerds with meta gear
>Have to rush to hotspots now
If I can't take it away with free kit, I don't deserve it. Prideful person, yeah
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The genius of Marathon is that every single aspect of the game forces you to risk something. Limited vault space forcing you to use what you have, quests forcing you into hot spots, best loot locked behind intense PVPVE fights.
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>>559993161
>some of these cunts I go up against are cracked as fuck
Yes, even if you are just greens you will get wasted by a guy with a purple shield and a rail shotgun or a sniper with thermal scope
PvP ruins whatever illusion this game has that is has anything to do with PvE.

PvP and PvE should never be mixed together, like soap and gasoline, unless you know exactly what it is you are doing and how to do it. Bungie? They are the fucks that manage to set the whole lab on fire while doing a simple reflux.

Also, they did not nerf shotguns in this patch.
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bully my waifu
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>>559994358
>Limited vault space forcing you to use what you have
False, full vault of green with some blue. Still free kit only.
>quests forcing you into hot spots
Not doing PvE shit.
>best loot locked behind intense PVPVE
Ripped a gold and purple off someone's body, with a free kit.
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>>559994358
did the shill bot break? I already read this before
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>>559994487
Is she a Vandal? I only force myself onto Vandal.
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Why are there gooners here? This game does not have sexy women
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do rook upgrades stack?
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>>559994590
Yes.
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>>559994590
They all stack yeah
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>>559993896
The ammo system pushed that hard to be fair
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>>559994581
>she needs sexy women to get her pp hard
NGMI
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>>559994590
do generic upgrades also work on rook like better heat bar?
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>>559994573
I meant the gun
bully SMG
is my waifu
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>>559992246
Why do you keep copy pasting tweets
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Why yes I am enjoying Marathon
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>>559994837
Reactors online.
All systems nominal.
Engage sneaky-beaky protocols.
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This is still not marked on the map.

Luckily, AI Uplink had tons of spots to tag.
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they HAVE to do something about these gun models man, they all look so retarded. all the skins besides the archromatic ones are just the same model with a different texture with random colors that look like shit.
i have no clue how they're going to make any money selling stuff in the store if they stick to this theme of lego guns reskins of the same character model with very minor differences.
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the healbot character not being a woman is THE biggest blunder
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>>559995136
Why
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>>559995136
thief and triage should swap models.
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>>559995136
>healbot character not being a woman
Combat medic is man, because women are too weak for combat.
BbbAaased Bungie
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>>559995163
what is my gf supposed to play now???
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>go into mission with my best gear
>die immediately
>load in with worse gear to just get a feel for how te mission works
>success
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>>559995136
the /trash/ demographic
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>>559994724
>bully SMG
>is my waifu
Weird
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One of the best balancing bits that they can do is to make shield be immune to headshot damage.
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A non-retarded patch? Are they actually getting good at being a video game studio again?
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>>559995007
How do you know the spots? Does it have that same marker when you're near like a terminal?
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One of the best balancing bits that you can do is stop being a faggot, scared of damage, and just avoid taking it.
>I-I can't avoid d-damage I'm a sissy
Then go to Arc raiders...
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why does the deluxe edition not include skins for triage and recon? they said they're adding more skins to the battle pass so everyone but triage gets one right? are they going to finish the deluxe edition so everyone gets a midnight skin?
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>>559994492
Based. Like >>559995270 said I do better loading in on frees I feel like so I'm just selling guns and really everything besides mats
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>>559995073
But that would ruin the look of the game
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>>559993914
Their codex mentions that the recon shell has a pretty nasty reputation back home as a bounty hunter and vendetta killing machine
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>>559995439
Racist Indian devs
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>Dire Marsh except it’s night time with Pfhor

Is that lazy or not I dunno
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I swear they do gear-rated map placement because I always spawn right next to someone when I actually invest proper gear in my run and then see maybe 1 or 2 people the whole run when freekit
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>load in with pug
>they run everywhere
>they shoot every clanker
>one guy runs away
>he dies to team
>enemy team knows we are here from all the above
>get fucked by said team
>all this happens within the first 5 mins
i like this game a lot but these people are fucking retards man
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>>559993583
>zero homosexual thoughts as a women
anon loves thinking about fucking men
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>>559995580
I do believe there's some gear factor to the matchmaking but what you're describing just sounds like confirmation bias and/or getting unlucky
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whats the point of loading in to trio’s solo-fill with anything more than a free sponsored kit?

nine times out of ten you’re gonna get teammates disconnected at the start, ones who run away immediately, people with no mic, people on mic but offer no assistance, sociopaths who treat it like a COD lobby

seriously this game feels so schizophrenic unless you have two irl or online buddies to play all the time with you, and if Bungie are insistent on catering to only premades this already small userbase is gonna evaporate before the first wipe
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>>559993914
Q on solo recon is like a suicide button
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>>559995571
I wonder if the zones will ever change over time as the seasons go on
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>>559995360
>Does it have that same marker when you're near like a terminal?
Yeah, yellow thingies
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>>559995673
If gear based matches do work theoretically the better gear you have the more competent the player you match with
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>>559993914
>solos is too punishing
>trios with randoms is too punishing
>playing Marathon is suffering
the try hards are gonna kill this game before they can drop new content
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>tfw still haven't killed another player
My pacifist runs still continue.
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>>559995673
>>559995584
You guys realise every online shooter is like this. EVERY one of them.

I just downed a whole team with purple loot, and my random squad mate immediately runs off 90m away and gets done by a Rook.

THEN, our Triage pushes an entire team by himself in Pinwheel.
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>>559995842
It won't last, eventually you'll find loot that you can't afford to lose, and as soon as that loot is under threat you'll be just like everyone else, a murderer.
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>>559995584
It is frustrating when they run to the nearest area even when we don't need it for anything, activate supply drops or guarded crates it's just like what are you doing mayyyyne
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exfil camping is some faggot behavior ngl. guess im maining recon from now on
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>>559995749
>a suicide button
I don't play 3V3
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>>559995538
>codex mentions that the recon shell has a pretty nasty reputation
Nice, I love killing people who almost exfilled
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I just play to do the quests and figure out the story. Getting attached to loot is a fools errand. You’ll find a purple shotgun and then in two runs it’ll be gone.

Playing for loot is a losing game. Play the objectives, find the lore and pick up what you can.
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>>559996150
Playing for lore is a losin game too because you can't do shit solo without getting fucked by everything and everyone.
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>over 50 hours between alpha slam and launch
>still have only used recon
I'm afraid to touch another at this point, maybe when I get the mastery challenges complete agin
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>>559995885
congratulations, sweaty, you and your competent teammate are gaming gods

doesn’t change the fact that loading into a match is a loaded diceroll if you’re gonna have to tard wrangle two deadweights against a lobby of premade streamers

so why waste anything other than the daily sponsor kit?
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>they're making the broken wing enterance harder
I have nothing left anymore
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>Kill 2 teams in a row
>third team instantly on top of us
>kill 2 of the 3 with full HP
>third guy just comes in and instantly clears all three of us with a shotgun

Hilarious, you either have a shotgun or you just close inside builds, awesome game design guys
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>>559996267
Do you play her like a grenade spammer
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>>559996319
Just embrace it and be a shotgun faggot, it feels great
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>>559996319
.t Austro-Hungarian
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>>559996319
your fault for fighting inside a building without a shotgun
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https://www.trueachievements.com/news/marathon-xbox-player-count
>Marathon is doing so poorly it launched with 27% less players than Destiny 2 on Xbox at the 32nd most popular game of the week for the console.
>High on Life 2 is #26 and The Division 2 is #29
>Marathon is below both of those on its launch week.
Enjoy the game while it lasts. It won't be around for long.
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>>559996357
Yes there isn't a reason not too once you're engaged in combat
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I've been waiting for 30 minutes and I can't find a game. am I the only person playing this game?
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>learn about the broken wing switches
>"oh cool I can do that as a sol-"
>REMOVED
epic
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I DONT EVEN CARE ABOUT MY GUNS AND SHIELD AND AMPS AND SHINY GOLD SHIT

I JUST WANT MY MATS TO UPGRADE MY FACTION NODES

AHHHHHHHH STOP KILLING ME LET ME EXTRACT I WILL DROP MY GUN AND SUCK YOU OFF JUST LET ME LEAVE WITH MY MATERIALS
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Is Rooks ability broken? I went to a protected extract and used his ability to disguise myself but the robots shot at me anyway.
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>>559988360
>nerfed UESC
So it's a move toward pvp only, right? this is how it starts, by trivializing the pve elements.
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>>559995417
Stop projecting, your paranoid retard.
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>>559996646
hey as long as we keep the ttk insanely low so I can one shot people as a camper I couldnt care fucking less if the game dies a month from now
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the aliens like the pfor and spht need to be cracked as fuck or this game is COOKED. you need to be scared of those dudes.
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>>559996646
>xbox player count

Itrailers of recent games getting 5k views on Xbox channels while PS5 in in the hundred of thousands.
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>>559996751
they just nerfed UESCs health a bit which is a move towards pve and making the solo experience better since they're just bullet sponges.
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>>559996646
the only console player count that matters is PS5, Xbox is d.o.a., and no, I don’t trust that bitter Paul Tassi cunt who is angry over Destiny, I just wish Sony/Bungie would give us some numbers. its extremely anecdotal but I do so lots of PS5 players in matches, so I don’t know
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ive never used controller in a shooter and when the match started i grabbed the mouse with one hand and controller with the other...
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>>559996715
might be better honestly. i hate going to the pinwheel just to find another team in there from the easy mode way
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>>559996751
it's more of a gentle step towards casualization which means pve

only really, really bad players were complaining about shit like not having enough ammo or enemies being too tanky. the fact that they're stressing that they want to keep uesc threatening means they're aware of what can happen if they cede too much ground here, if you cater to casual bitching they will mutiny your game and then continue bitching if you don't turn it into a destiny-tier idle game shitheap
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>>559996861
>>559996883
>Playercount is below High on Life 2 and a 10 Year Old Live service game.
>X-Xbox doesn't matter.
You're inhaling so much copium you're missing the point.
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>>559996861
>>559996883
It's even worse on PS5. On xbox Marathons 32 while on PS its 38.
https://www.truetrophies.com/n28007/playstation-gameplay-chart-week-ending-march-8th-2026
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how do the autoaim guns work? when does it kick in?
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>>559996718
>playing threes
>go to exfill
>guy trying to exfill solo
>screams into mic NO PLEASE NO I HAV-AHHHHHH as teammate plunges knife into his throat
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>>559997043
honestly surprised, even for niche shooters with high skill ceilings like titanfall and the finals they kept meatier bases on console.

what about marathon makes it a game that's only doing well on PC?
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blasthavers status?
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>>559997087
https://x.com/Fusters_/status/2030807082794950660
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>>559996290
>so why waste anything other than the daily sponsor kit?
I think PvP with loaded gear is the greatest mistake they made. That shit - loaded kit - should be for PvE in Cryo Archive, because that is what it takes to have a chance against robots there. PvP should be on the map, with just sponsor kits, barely any loot aside from what drops from robots, and objectives teams have to complete. Thats it, thats the best PvP that can be done. There is no fun getting ratted by a guy with purple shields, auto-revives out of ass, and a that fucking energy shotgun, when he can just smoke you in one shot even when you have that green reinforced shield and full health while you do piddle of the damage with what-have-you. And the item power creep in this game is insane, with weapon balance being all fucked up.
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>>559996723
It stops working if you sprint, but walk and it works again
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>>559987661
The removal of pve as a legitimate threat begins. Pure pvp battle royale soon, it's fucking over
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>>559997017
>Xbox Sissy still insisting her console is relevant
maybe Helix will turn things around, or maybe just grab a Steam Box when it launches?
>>559997043
again, I don’t understand how the metrics are gathered, but I see PS5 players all the time, I could be wrong and of course this game was always going to do better on PC, but I refuse to believe its as bad as Paul Tassi makes out
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>>559997138
Probably because it's a Bungie Tarkov and Tarkov players are mostly on pc. Also, I think console players are normies and casuals who play tons of trash like fifa and normies and casuals think Marathon looks retarded visually.
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what's the best way to stockpile heals?
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>>559997157
*coughs blood*
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>>559997190
I only have to dump 95% of my clip into a generic robot instead of 100% I am going insaneeeeee help me niggerman
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>>559997359
Rook runs looking for medical cabinets. Or just prioritize faction rep but that starts to slow way down
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>>559997359
Do basic contracts with free kits for a while
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do we know for certain how many people per map yet? solo and trios?
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meh, all Sony needs to do is push the button to make this ‘free’ on PS+ and it’ll live forever, hopefully sooner rather than later

I’d keep it full price on PC though
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Probably the biggest gap I've ever seen with how /v/ thinks a game is vs how it actually is. Hopefully they do a free weekend and add more ayylmao enemies soon
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>>559997043
>whoreframe beats marathon
Wew lad.
>its just barely above a fucking ESO
Laughable.

Either they do a PvE mode (they dont have to change anything, bots are fine and its players that suck if they complain about them), or it will be all over in a few months.
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>>559997553
Cause people on /v/ are hating it for political reasons or just boredom rather than the actual merits of the game
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>>559997559
If they do PvE mode it should be way harder, punishing for wasting ammo and health kits. More enemy patrols outside the pois.
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>>559997520
>do we know for certain how many people per map yet? solo and trios?

TOO FUCKING MANY
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>>559997087
I would just say to the guy "Drop your weapons, stand over there, and no sudden moves" and let him exfil with us. I mean, what could you possible get out of killing him?
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>>559997559
We're never getting a PvE mode no matter how much you cry for it, not even Arc Raiders caved into that and it panders pretty hard to shitters like you.
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>>559997596
But it's like egregious here. The game is so good and for some reason they've managed to scare people from trying it. They cant even point to anything woke about it. The art style is arthouse geometric cyberpunk/biopunk. How the fuck is that woke?
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>>559997292
>casuals think Marathon looks retarded visually.
This is something that for some reason I didn't consider because it's so inconceivable to me to see an interesting artstyle in a shooter and go "ew, gay" but it makes a lot of sense desu
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>>559997709
>not even Arc Raiders caved into that
Arc Raiders doesn’t need to do a damn thing they already won and made massive bank, they could shit, piss and spit in players faces and still be golden

Marathon NEEDS to do something, anything, otherwise it WILL die
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sniffing Thief's toenails
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>>559997359
>sometimes trades are good
>2.5k kits are actually decent value for heals
>you can just buy them
>play rook and loot corpses
desu I get most of mine from player kills and I'm only like a 1.0-ish KD player from what I can tell, with definitely below 50% extract rate.
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i hate the cyberacme kit so much
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>>559997794
Yeah, but a PvE mode isn't it, and never will be, you have to accept that
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>>559997709
Arc Raiders got PvE mode though because of the aggression based matchmaking which keeps PvE people with each other while PvP people are paired with other PvP people.
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>>559997794
They need weird ayylmao enemies. Arc succeeded because the enemies are interesting and diverse and the fights vs them are really fun. Marathon's enemy diversity isn't as obvious with the UESC troops having mild visual distinctions that you don't really notice until a few hours of experience with them. You have to look for the beige shit hanging off their back or shoot them and note the shield color to really notice most times which is fucking stupid.
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https://streamable.com/o5fyvj

Realistically how is a free kit solo supposed to deal with this?
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>>559998130
all disgusting, be silent
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>>559997659
He was gunned down as we reached the exfill, he'd just activated it. No way to know if he was on his own or not. I guess teammate just went for the E button out of routine.
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>>559998130
>we want the Fortnite audience
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>>559998163
Numbers would keep going down until our demands be satisfied.
Its not a bout you.
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>>559998130
They should remove a lot of the text from the textures.
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>>559998012
I hate Traxus more
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>>559997709
>We're never getting a PvE mode
Then its a fucking last orchestra play on a fucking titanic, and mind you, i abhor those tortanic fags. "Enjoy" the game while it lasts, because these bungie retards will run it into the ground and off the cliff at the same time.
I am fucking mighty tired of seeing games with potential being wasted.

...game got wasted
And it's dev's a waste.

>PvPvE
>ever mixing PvP and PvE
You gotta keep 'em separated.

He-ey dont pay no mind,
we're retarded devs
and we're running this game into the ground.
He-ey, come out and play (our fucked-up game).
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>>559998153
They're not.
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>>559998071
It's dumb that the UESC bots are even humanoid but that's just because they are remodeled Destiny 2 enemies
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>>559998190
>>we want the Fortnite audience
YES
100 MILLION PLAYERS AUDIENCE, THATS THE MONEY
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So is the game value-based matchmaking? Anything above green great puts me up against sweats.
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>>559997764
"Woke" is just when there's no T&A
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Literally just raise the ttk.
You do not need a laundry list of random fucking shit to fix the game.

Raise the ttk.
Allow people to actually play the game, stop punishing people for not crouch walking for 20 minutes straight, stop rewarding people for afking in a corner with a shotgun.

Raise the ttk.
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>>559998370
Weapons are just remodeled destiny weapons and legendarys are mostly destiny effects.
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Alien races would fix a lot about the game. You could steal an egg from the nest of a large mantid enemy then throw it at an enemy team to draw aggro on them from across the map.

The game should have scary alien monsters. What's the point of being in outer space without this?
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Recon might be the worst shell for solos. Echo Pulse kinda helps locate runners but if there's a lot of UESC, you gotta figure out who is a bot and who is a runner. The seeker drone is kinda underwhelming too. It has poor Pat finding.
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>>559998413
it's not happening man, you're not getting your epic whack a mole teamfights where people crouch in cover and use poke weapons until their medical supplies run out
>the game will die!
ok
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>>559998517
>Aliens where planed for season 3 after we sell 100 million copies

I will bet money that the plan sounded something like that on a board room.
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>>559998130
Retarded points.
What they need to do to raise TTK is to make shield ignore headshot crit damage, meaning they dont get depleted too fast, and only reinforced shields can ignore 50% of damage. A nerf to shotguns, and increased instability to sniper rifles so no hitscan, a trippled recharge time for railguns between the shots would do the trick, a buff to hardline and repeater, a full-auto fire mode for that CE sidearm pistol. THATS IT. And a PvE mode - a simple fucking thing where its just the same shit as solo/team lobby except you just load into a map with no other teams (and as >>559997639 said - more aggressive robots). That is what they need to do RIGHT NOW, RIGHT THIS VERY FUCKING DAY.

The rest of fixes can come at a later time, because they dont have as much impact as those that i listed.
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>>559998370
>>559998440
It's ok when From Software does it


>>559998592
The bigger issue is the tick rate and how it appears on my screen. It glitches around like the animation is 5 fps and it's impossible to shoot. If you wanna hit people with it throw it like its a normal grenade and think of it like a homing grenade with a 5ft effect radius
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what would strengthen the game i m o
>alien enemies that are memorable and threatening like arc's enemies as many have said
>hidden questlines the player can follow- i'm not just talking ARGs I mean unmarked quests where you're investigating the mysteries of tau ceti and doing a little bit of detective work, invoke ODST or pathways a little more than you already do
>also some rrrreally out of pocket shit like doing whisper of the worm again, a door randomly opens in a pvp match and you're taken to a pve instance in some weird isolated map
>trojan horse shit like a free weekend with a mini pve campaign (produced on the cheap)
>or some edgerunners shit where you bait people in with a good show

desu the game is good, it doesn't need massive overhauls to recover. just needs some cool factor and marketing
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>>559997553
Vee is just pol but all the OPs are anime gacha coombait
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>>559998153
>and people complain about PvE being easy
You do nothing, you are downed, and it takes time for bots to suck you off. So you just get back into the ring and pray nothing else happens. You are downed - not dead.
Also, signal scrambler consumable helps a LOT.
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>>559998012
>>559998269
I actually like them.
>assault rifle
>battle rifle
Its fine. That both of them suck ass is bungie's fault.
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How do we feel about shells with MIDA futa cock modification?
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>>559993914
Fucking chills
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>>559998609
>is fine with game being wasted
You were never in there for the game, just for a retarded PvP fix.
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>>559998815
>>or some edgerunners shit where you bait people in with a good show
as cool as that would be it would take literally years to produce this, the game will be long gone by then
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>>559999101
i like the game and don't want it to be some lame shit it isn't
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An alien squid enemy that uses psionics to fly and spreads its tentacles out before dive bombing you to stick to your face, rendering you totally blind, requiring holding a button to remove
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>>559998815
I just want ayyys that I can fuck
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>>559998759
When from software does it it means we have like 100+ different enemys to fight, in marathon we only have one single enemy.
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>>559999101
turning the game into something else just to appeal to the lowest common demoninator would be wasting it too
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>all this cope about what would fix the game
>when the most obvious and easiest solution is right there
This game would thrive even as is if only they gave up the hardcore shtick and implemented chungus abmm. Literally just bend on this single thing. The guns are good, the loot is fun and varied, all the shells feel good to play, you just have to cater to the wholesome chungus burnt peanut prox chat audience if you want to sell a lot of copies and mtx.
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>>559999142
Then its PvE mode or game is going bye-bye. And you PvPfags will be accessories to the crime of murdering a game.
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>>559999145
Sounds annoying
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>>559999290
That's why its an enemy
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>>559999254
>Then its PvE mode or game is going bye-bye. And you PvPfags will be accessories to the crime of murdering a game.
The arrogance of this statement bro, holy shit.
This is why you don't cater to casuals, it never ends. To the point they demand every single game cater to them.
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>>559999254
No one is coming to this game for a patch job PvE mode, get over it.
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>>559999241
>mtx

There's not even much to buy. It's weird how this whole thing feels rushed
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>>559999241
No one uses mics in this game tho and the structure of it doesnt work like arc where it's humanity vs the arc and the larger bots require teaming up.
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>>559999254
>i want a different game
play a different game
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>>559999241
Raising the ttk would encourage prox chat being used without going to the extreme of changing the matchmaking
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>>559999227
Right. Did i say "remove PvP and replace it with PvE"? PvE is single-player/co-op mode. PvP is multiplayer. Which part of thosse you dont get? Are you afraid to be left with only other dickheads like you and multiplayer not being fun for you because you dont want an actual challenge of going agains players of same skill level or even greater? What, afraid to be dabbed on by a greater sweatfag and to be on the receiveing end? Is that what all of your bitching comes down to? "Please dont ruin my fun, i have it at the expense of the others"? Man, grow the fuck up.
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pre-mades need their own fucking queue fucking YESTERDAY

this game is going to sweat itself to death
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>>559999339
So much this, fuck
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>>559999498
Just play Permieter, very easy going there
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>>559999381
Arc cosmetics look like shit, cobbled together inbred outfits, but people still buy them. I’ve seen all kinds of outfits before I got bored of the game.
>>559999415
They could easily add the structure in season 2 with a counterpart to Arachne that is a faction focused on cooperation and rewarding you for healing other runners not in your squad, doing damage to a quest target for someone else, and so on. Call it the Wholesome Chungus Carebears or something.
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>>559999241
Abmm does not work with this game, PvE enemies would drop like flies.
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>>559999381
It feels complete but thin in places. They put a lot of dev time in rendering gear fear obsolete. I have no issue whatsoever bringing blue guns in cause it's so easy to get them back and I'd rather be kitted out so that's nice. The maps also feel really well thought out. None of the existing system feel broken unlike with arc which allowed stitcher rats to run wild for several months cause they didnt know how to address it.
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Mossad is monitoring the thread. Watch yourselves.
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>>559999458
It’s not really that extreme. Bungie’s programmers could probably figure out how it’s done within a month.
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>>559999339
>arrogance
What is arrognat about stating what is true? PvPfags ruined a whole bunch of games of various generes - from MMOs to RTS to a fucking 4x. Its a statement of the fact. The arrogance is how you retarded cultists think every game with multiplayer should cater to YOU.
>>559999365
They will come rushing down once they see the monthly financial report.
>>559999451
Did not ask for anything different other than not to play with other players or co-op. Same game, just less people.

Dumb motherfuckers.
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>>559999498
I watched shroud play in trios yesterday and it was like he was playing against bots. Every encounter is so onesided. You couldn't even tell if he just killed a UESC or a real player.
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>>559999486
>"remove PvP and replace it with PvE"?
Yes. If you're adding a PvE mode you're killing PvP. The entire reason PvP works in an extraction shooter is that the game is mixed mode. This is why Arc Raiders is absolute fucking dog slop garbage to anybody with the slightest bit of taste. Its PvE is worthless and its PvP is worthless because they do not work together.
>b-b-b-but you NEED to appeal exclusively to casuals or your game will die!
Good. It's death either way. Screaming endlessly that the game needs to be killed or else it will die is not the threat you think it is.
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>>559999624
Make them stronger and more numerous as you get further along the chungus layer. Give them more common debuffs like overheat and hacking. Add in shell abilities like recon’s drone.
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/v/ hating it has made it so I never hear the word nigger said in this game which is a neat correlation
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>>559999594
Doesn't stop them from showing up there either.
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>>559999596
You can buy any outfit and wear it at any time, in Marathon you're going to need an outfit to come out that not only looks good in this weird style but also is on a shell you actually play. Right now all of Marathons cosmetics are just recolors of the base model.
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Imagine if you went back to 2011 /v/ and told the board that in fifteen years endless political shitflinging gave room for unironic proud casuals to scream up and down that a new AAA release NEEDED to be dumbed down because "sweats" were hurting their feelings
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>>559999819
This guy got raped by Tarkov players and gets his jollies by raping Marathon players. See how he seethes with rage at the mere idea he can no longer pubstomp.
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>>559999813
more evidence to the amount of bots in the game but the shills will still deny it to their last breath
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>>559999819
>Good. It's death either way.
Which means you never gave a shit about the game in the first place. Means all of your arguments go down the trash can. Fuck you you piece of shit.
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>>559999951
It's truly mind boggling isn't it? how far we have fallen...
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>>559999951
Imagine thinking /v/ is relevant at any point and likes any game besides gacha gooner slop.
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>>560000036
I give a shit about THIS game, I would not give a shit about this game if it had chungus PvE modes that kill the entire core concept.
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>>560000036
>liking marathon instead of wanting to contort it into something it's not actually means you don't like marathon
alright pal
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>>560000086
you redditors don't realise how easy it is to spot you.
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>>559999951
in 2011 i was 5 watching cartoon network
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Since the update my game starts freezing up at some point late in every match. Feels like it's running out of VRAM and it's fucking the system up. Sometimes my graphics drivers crash. It worked fine before the update.
Is it just me or anyone else?
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>>560000324
Works fine here
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>>560000412
Then fuck off back to your pathetic kind there
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>>559998995
huge fan
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>>560000412
>Reddit is more relevant than 4chan.
dios mio, this is the caliber of the people posting here.
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>try the "throw a smoke on the commander and knife him to death" meme
>he instantly turns around, punts me 50 feet away like a football and then guns me down
Wtf you guys lied to me
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>>560000810
This doesn't work on commanders you fool. they have 6 million HP.
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>>559999951
A lot of friends are 'gamers' but would absolutely hate Marathon. Only want to play co-op and they end up getting lost in shit like Outlast Trials. The idea of fighting other players turns them off games completely.

It's weird because I quickly got bored of single player games when I played stuff like Counterstrike and TF back in the day.
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>>559999951
Blame moot for selling the website to epstein and right-wing retards. It was after his meeting with eppy that he created /pol/ and site went to shit, especially starting from 2014 where it became absolutely clear that glowies of all factions were glowing things up, especially FSB and Mossad. 2016 gave us a gift that keeps on giving, a gift that may as well be something one wished upon a monkey paw.
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>>560000810
Even better
>commander just exits the smoke and waits for you there
Yah, very fun.
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>>559998153
>Realistically how is a free kit solo supposed to deal with this?
Am I missing something, did he not extract with plenty of time to spare? What exactly is he unable to deal with?
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>>559999951
i've been thinking this for a minute. When Dark Souls came out this site was so proud of being among the first to sing its praises because of how dire and casual-oriented the industry had been leaning in the seventh gen, and now they're basically aligned with reddit in that games ought to be more braindead and casual. Very strange brand of contrarianism
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>>560000025
you have 0 evidence, you need some evidence to not be seen as incredibly low iq and bias brained
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>>560001473
>and now they're basically aligned with reddit
I wonder how that happened
Certainly nothing happened between 2014 and 2016
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>>560001473
>Single Player challenge game vs PvevP game
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>>559998153
hold onto any smoke grenades you find, otherwise you did what youre supposed to do... you just get downed and hope you dont get griefed by a player
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>>560000025
Bot conspiracy is lame, the conspiracy that streamers get matched with worse players to farm content is much funnier
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>>560001662
demon's and dark souls were largely famed for invasions you donut, it's an early example of how introducing pvp into the environment can do nice things for pve
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>drop into a match
>3 minutes pass
>team mates want to extract

explain this behaviour
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>>560001662
>Single Player challenge game
Watch and learn unwashed peasant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4
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>>559995645
I'm almost lvl 40 and I dont think this is true.

Too many times I've loaded in completely kitted only to proceed to curb stomp an entire lobby full of sponsor geared players.

Other times I'm loading in with a sponsor kit and immediately fighting blue and purple shielded players at the nearest POI.
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>>560001926
Inventory full and they dont want to lose craft mats.

>do a run
>we survive one teamfight
>then almost die to second one
>do our shit and exfiltrate with 10 minutes to spare
>apprently we were the last team to extract/alive and could've just fucked around and looted for 10 minutes
It do be like dat.
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>>560001647
PC parts turned a corner and got cheaper for a short bout letting more people make the plunge? If you wanted a fire hazard the summer the RX 480 came out for dirt cheap you theoretically could get a fairly ok build for like $600 or so bucks ,probably less if you cut some corners
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wait did people buy a pvp game to complain about there being pvp?
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>>560002106
>Inventory full and they dont want to lose craft mats.

sorry, I never divulged they hadn’t looted anything, and no they did not ping the extraction just to camp

they just want to go three minutes into a match with no loot or kills

extrapolate, please
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>>560001843
That game have the option of being a pve, you could deactivate invasions (chungus darksouls players didnt suffer)
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>>560002187
Oh, in that case IDK man. I know from what i have observed that usually its the case of "got mats, now leave before someone kills us".
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>>560002184
>Studio know for Single player game Campaigns release an interesting looking scifi game with a lot of Lore and arg
>The gameplay is CoD ranked

I mean... they are going too niche, for who is the game? pvpers dont care about lore and visuals... so
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>>560002106
I had a Rook run I spawned in at the 17 or so minute mark saw 2 becons exfil, I legit had the place to myself and came across what I figured was a full team trade fight or somebody went down to adds after taking the 1v2/3, big time morons too because somebody had the triple jump vandal core and a very nice thermal sniper
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>>560002184
people bought a pvpve game and complained the pve in the game sucks ass
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>>560002184
Its a PvPvE game as per description in the very store. People complain that the PvP is overshadowing the PvE.
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>>560002187
Maybe did a exfil objective in the starter area.
I've done it a few times.
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>>560002184
It's not a pvp game, it's a pvpve game.
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>>560002397
>Studio know for Single player game Campaigns
Fucking zoomers don't even know about Halo 3
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>>560002501
Halo 3 had a campaign, PvP was optional
Marathon would be so hard with a Campaign, and it would work like a tutorial for all the day one "complains" like people dont bringing ammo and heals. They lose players because of that.
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really hoping that Nightfall pushes Marathon into its own, I think it could be really interesting once buildcrafting becomes a major factor in loot runs
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>>560002230
But you had an incentive to go enable to ability to be invaded.
Elden Ring is literally the perfect example of how a chungus mode hurts the game more broadly btw, with the entire invasion concept being killed by the seamless coop mod.
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>>560002462
>>560002418
PvPvE means PvPvE not PvP and PvE seperately.
It's the literal entire purpose of the term.
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>>559996718
Slow roll as Rook and you can get it done easily. I too was covered in feces and upset and then I realized having the game midway allowed me to get better idea of situation. Yes I died in process but I realized there is psychological poison in Dire Marsh that prevents people from really doing much looting after a certain point especially near zones where there’s not really much early questing .
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>>560002668
>Halo 3 had a campaign, PvP was optional
Just stop talking retard, literally nobody played halo 3 for campagin.
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>>560002668
I honestly do think that tutorial is kinda shit and it should be more involved rather than Perimeter (Beginner)
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>>560002896
pipe down old man
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>>560002397
>Studio know for Single player game Campaigns
They have literally not released a single singleplayer campaign in over 15 years and every Halo past CE was primarily known for its multiplayer.
>The gameplay is CoD ranked
It is fucking nothing like cod, stop being a retard.
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>>560002462
I think it’s more important that the PvE is extremely generic and boring
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is this even remotely worth it if i'm solo? i liked arc raiders for a solid week or two before it got boring and i never liked tarkov, if that helps
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Has there been any hypothesis of what matchmaking is like in this game? Did Bungie implement outlier protection pity games like they did with Destiny ?
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>>560003034
>is this even remotely worth it if i'm solo?
No.
The average player is people like these retards >>560002896
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>>560003034
No the game is designed for trios, you could join the disc to link up with anons though

https://discord.gg/k7PvdP5D
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>>560003034
It'll keep you occupied for a couple of weeks at the very least.
If you are good at fps, you'll last longer.

It's a decent game with good aesthetics and it's pretty cheap.
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>>560003034
No I wouldn’t. Yes there are people who do have good success soloing even Outpost shit which isn’t that particularly crazy but it just gets a little annoying after a degree how beefy a lot of the adds are even when you game their aggro draw
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Ok, imagine a stituation where Quake 3 is released, but its online only, and you can only play it against other players, and minimum player number necessary to play is 8 for deathmatch and 6 for team deathmatch.
Players complain and ask for vs bots mode, and others ask for an adjustable number for player number requirement, and others ask for offline/LAN.
How will things resolve?
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>>560002996
It's not, because the PvE is not there to be its own thing that you just do. It's there to be a third factor in PvP, which is something the PvE elements in Marathon do better than any other extraction shooter due to better and more aggressive AI and BECAUSE they're simple enough to kill when actually focusing on them.
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>>560003034
Its hard to say. If you mean solo solo as in always playing rook or 1v1 queue, I don't think so. The game mostly shines in 3s and it's pve is balanced around that too. Once the equivalent of raid encounters comes out, it'll be impossible to do as solo.

If you mean solo as in joining a random trio as a solo, it's decent if you're ok playing with strangers.
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>>560003034
It can be fun solo but it's a lot more like Tarkov if it was less autistic there.
Matchmaking a team isn't the worst thing ever, though.
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>>560002996
>PvE is extremely generic and boring
Because they want cinematic experience where cutscenes are every 5 minutes of the gameplay and its all either quirky or stereotypical/archetype characters they can make memes and memberberries about.
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>>560003270
If the game is released today where everyone has good internet, nobody will ask for a bot mode.
A minority of oldfags (schizos) will ask for a LAN mode but that's pretty much it.
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>>559997520
>>559997649
Played some solo outpost. Killed one guy, saw a corpse, and heard an early exfil, no one else at final extract. Seems like it's the same number of enemies in solo as the number of enemy squads.
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Honestly I think a decent portion of the hate for the visuals in game (not the UI) is a result of perimeter being the very first map. It’s significantly uglier than the other 2 and the environment clashes with the vibrant buildings in a way that makes everything look like shit
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>>560003415
thanks for the honest replies, so trios is where the game shines and being a friendless loser is like cock and ball torture in this game, i'll wait and see in that case unless i end up completely starved for a shooter game
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>>560003034
sweety, the game is barely worth it for playing trio’s unless you have two friends willing to play and you’re all above average at PVP

this isn’t just a niche game its a fucking aberration, it feels like a project Bungie made in-house for their dev team to play on their lunch break
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>>560003270
Are you forgetting that Quake 3 was the game that completely abandoned the singleplayer campaign of the previous quakes in favor of purely focusing around its online PvP, you fucking retard?
No, Quake 3 having bot matches was not the reason it succeeded.
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I think having a solo queue was a huge mistake. It convinced people that you could play solo and it's not like Bungie is going to seriously balance pve for solo anytime soon. It's basically a throwaway queue that serves only to fragment the playerbase.
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>>560003496
Not him but i played this game almost exclusively solo as a Rook in the server slam and its way harder but also way more fun.

My suggestion is to wait until it goes free to play, which seeing the player numbers that might happen soon
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>>560003474
It's not any worse than Marsh and the buildings fit perfectly the aesthetics of the game.
Perimeter is a frontier region the colonists were trying to tame and expand into.
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>>560003474
i was talking about it yesterday a bit-- the weird cliffs and stuff around the center seem dated/gamey too. it's not on the same level as the other two

i know the hate for the aesthetic goes way beyond that though. people wont even try it because of it-- there are so many of these people out there like that, too
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>>560003560
And yet it still had bot matches available. Sucked at multiplayer? Play against bots to get better and try again. Ofcourse Q3 was popular because of multiplayer.
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>>560003034
No.
I asked the same question a week ago and didn't heed the warnings.
Marathon is very fun when you have a pre-made stack or at least 1 friend to queue with.

But solos is either very uneventful or frustrating because you died to campers or someone 3rd/4th partying you. Plus it takes longer to level up your stats when solo.
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>>560003474
The visuals are way more tolerable on interiors. For some reason the big blocks of acid colors on exteriors look really bad. It just dont work.
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>>560003629
The thing is I don't think it would be hard to tune the numbers for solo mode compared to trios, its not like they have to redesign mechanics or anything, literally just make the enemies weaker in solo
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>every seemingly neutral post is followed by tons of negativity
the vibe shift needs to be studied
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>>560003554
i mean the visuals look cool to me, plus the gunplay and all that plus extraction shooters are cool in theory and i'm somewhat above average at fps it's just that i'm a friendless loner so these types of games are always a gamble for me

>>560003635
well i'm gonna hope that the game improves and that it doesn't fail at least if i ever get into it

>>560003727
sorry to hear you've been having a shitty time with it, it really looks like a lot of fun when playing with friends but uhhh yeah, easier said than done...
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>>560002846
PvPvE means an equal parts PvP and PvP but Marathon is almost entirely PvP. Both sides should be well fleshed out.
If I told you someone played Arc Raiders doing nothing but PvE or nothing but PvP, you could easily imagine that. If I told you someone played Marathon doing nothing but PvE, you'd think he was fucking insane because the PvE in this game is fighting one bullet sponge enemy and the "boss" version is the same exact thing but with more hp.
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>>560003754
I think the brutal ttk is just burning the people who want to like/play the game out hard, literally the only people who enjoy it as it is now are campers and most people don't want to camp to squeeze out a bit of dopamine
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>>560003754
The *** ******* aren't only raiding arcs. They also raid /mg/.
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>>560003847
>PvPvE means an equal parts PvP and PvE
No it doesn't, why the fuck would you think it means that? It means an environment where both threats are present. A GOOD game definitionally has all of its elements interact, not sit around and be separate for autistic little faggots to pick and choose from.
>If I told you someone played Arc Raiders doing nothing but PvE or nothing but PvP, you could easily imagine that.
I could, and I would also call them a retard for playing half a game.
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>>560003845
>i mean the visuals look cool to me

if you’re not good at PVP the only visuals you’ll be looking at are the ground textures while the lobby ass rapes your shell
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>>560003971
>*** *******
The game died when they backtrack the arc raiders text censure. That was based and really fun.
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>>560004179
I was like this when I started but now that I got gud I survive for much longer and sometimes even manage to 1v1 people ethically and fairly.
I can easily roam around maps for the whole duration of the lobby and enjoy the scenery, kill ticks, knife turrets, etc.
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>spawn dire marsh next to bio marsh
>literally 20 seconds in I see an assassin who spawned there, running across the open waters behind it towards me
>he clearly saw me first but didn't shoot me
>gun him down absurdly slowly because I have the fucking Hardline
>it was an assassin that spawned in with only a shotgun, not even a sidearm
>name involves being a dad
These are the kinds of "people" complaining about the TTK btw
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>>560004179
>the lobby ass rapes your shell
>circumcized at birth Award
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>>560004331
Based learner
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>>560004431
Do the worms print foreskin for each shell just so it can be circumcized?
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I think the most obvious sign that Bungie just decided to shart this out finally is the most insipid and uninspired trophy/achievement list I’ve seen for a while, it almost feels placeholder. sure they have a decent amount of challenges in-game, but it’s clear they had zero confidence in this title, it’s a cute little side project that’s all
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>>559988274
that gear is absolute dogshit.
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the one that that bugs me is
you already have the loot stuff that rewards people that grind
and you get rewarded for learning the maps and the locations of everything
so why do you need the whole tree progression shit that makes the game grind to win
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>>560004661
They dont seem to print unnecessary things like Eyelashes and Hair for more Shells. So maybe some get the Foreskin printed, and other not? They seem to skip all the vagene for Thief, so who knows.
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Extraction shooters straight up do not work without an economy, I don't understand why so many games fail to understand this. I get it's to combat RMT but that shit literally doesn't matter. Path of Exile has RMT and is wildly successful, no one cares about it.
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>>560004945
making faction progression tied to player power is fucking retarded. no one is going to be wanting to do these faction missions every single wipe.
at least in arc raiders you don't have to do the boring pve missions if you don't want to.
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i read somewhere that a portion of the playerbase has been confirmed to be bots. is it like fortnite where most pvp encounters are bots or should i be more careful?
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>>559997659
Arachne xp
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>>560005159
They straight up do not work with an economy and the flea market fucked tarkov harder than anything else
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>Spawns are even closer together on Dire Marsh
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>>560005324
bot post
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>>560005324
The schitzo theory is Steam chart Bots, not "in game" bots
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>>560005324
It's very very clearly not true and is just cope from retards.
The amount of people who will prox chat when it's actually relevant alone should point to this. I don't think I've ever had a mutual kill where we didn't both talk, for example.
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>>560005502
so there's not that many actual players in game? that would explain the long ass queues
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>>560005571
sub 1 minute solo queues is not "long ass"
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>>560005561
>I don't think I've ever had a mutual kill where we didn't both talk, for example.
Is this a burgerland thing? In europe no one talks
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>>560003034
It's honestly more fun solo, trios is constant self reviving faggotry. At least in solo you kill someone they're dead.
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>>560005876
Australia
>In europe no one talks
Well yeah you people don't all speak the same language
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>>560005571
>10-20s ques
>long ass
Where the fuck you people play from? Antarctica?
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>>560005571
No, it's an insanely retarded theory because why would Sony bot the numbers from "bad" to "still bad". It also implies the game is doing concord levels of bad which is just clearly not the case.
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>>559996319
>get jumped while fucking around because I already killed 4 people and figured no one was left
>down but get my smoke ult off first, self revive
>make it just around the corner from where I was downed and instantly 2 pump the guy from full health and green shields before he even mentally registers I wasn’t still downed
You should start running shotgun, it’s fun
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I HATE ALGAE PONDS
FREE ME FROM NEEDING TO DO FUCKING QUESTS HERE AAAAAAAAA
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>>560005412
Tarkov only exists today because of the economy, fucking no one would play it without one
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>>560006201
What quest? I run out of quests did they add more content today?
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>>560006232
Tarkov still exists only because it caters to the niche sukablyat stalker innawoods tacticool autistic audience.
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Okay so what's the best way to do this? Do I just go into a match with a free kit and hit myself in the head?
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>>560006338
Tarkov exists because it's the only unique fps on the market. Everything else is the same generic shit we've seen since like 2010.
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>>560006092
totally normal user interaction, maybe the game sucks right guys? ha-ha-ha...
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>>560006252
Return on investment 1/5. Might still be the first rank 10 quest, I've been putting them off and just playing for the past good while.
>I run out of quests
I cannot fathom how, I'm at 50 hours and haven't come close on any.
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>>560005876
>>560005954
>europe prox chat
https://files.catbox.moe/q1wcgk.mp4
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It kind of feels like this game really wants you to just focus on material gathering more than anything else when I look at these barter prices and mats required for upgrades.
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>>560006457
[...]
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>>560006413
yes
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>>560006632
>I cannot fathom how, I'm at 50 hours and haven't come close on any.
wtf are you doing? It's like 1 quest per raid 15-20 mins per raid. I run out of quests day 2. Now I'm just doing generic contracts. The only quests that takes more than 1 raid is that arachne one because people give up instantly before you manage to finish them.
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>another match in trios
>another firefight in less than 20 seconds from spawn

nice arena shooter you shat out Bungie, very cool
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>>560006785
>It's like 1 quest per raid 15-20 mins per raid
Getting a quest done every single raid is not normal.
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they still haven't got all their bot players back on after hours. gonna need to have a word with the companies they are paying to fake player numbers. coordinate patch times better so their botting isn't as obvious. fucking embarrassing.
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>>560006890
Sir, this isn't a battle royale.
If someone shoots at you, you can just shoot them back.
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I actually really like the bones of the game, especially the aesthetic, but there is just too much wrong with it that I don't see long term success unless they have some radical changes in the pipeline.

Cryo Archive and Nightfall needs to save the game, that's the only chance Bungie has.
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>>560007004
Oh yeah bro, totally botted bro! I'm gonna play some arc raiders and spam i'm friendly and hug other dads and do pve bro
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>>560006890
>cries that there arent enough pvp on the map
>cries when there is pvp on the map
what do you faggots want?
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>>560005202
If they don't change up the faction upgrades on the new season then I probably won't play, fuck doing the exact same thing again
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why should I be responsible for putting food on the table of the devs
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>>560007509
Take your meds
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>>560004945
>>560005202
>>560007450
First time?
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>>560006413
>slide a few times
>let 2 ticks explode all over you
>get on a high roof and fall off

The falling i actually struggled with because I had the fall damage upgrade, had to jump off North Relay roof twice
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>>560006092
this is what killing a man's beloved game does to his mind
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>>560007570
You know you don't even have to do mandatory wipes in Tarkov now, right?
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>>559985867
>get hit once
>lose half your shield
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>>560007718
Yeah Tarkov is a dead game now I'm aware
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>>560007747
for me it's not just
>get hit once
>lose half your shield
but also
>use shield recharger
>charges 1/3rd your shield very slowly
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>>560007435
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>>560007964
he's using a shit depleted recharge tho. Normal ones heal you up to full
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>>560007964
>use shield recharger
>take another hit
>need to use another one 8^]
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>>560008045
No dude, you dont get it, it is like, eh, like dark souls dude
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>>560008045
>he didn't position before healing
ngmi
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How are shitters gonna get the purple and yellow items for upgrades? They do spawn in Perimeter but VERY rare.
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>>560003713
The words that come to mind for me are plastic/sterile but gamey and dated are good. It feels like an arena shooter map, and an ugly one at that, which is just not how you want extraction shooter environments to feel imo
>>560003661
Idk fair you like it but I think Dire Marsh is way better than perimeter. The environment looks a lot more interesting to me and the buildings actually have some variety to their architecture and layouts. On perimeter, south/north relay and overflow all feel like the same PoI
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>>560003745
Agreed, some rooms I’d even go as far as to say look good, I really like maintenance wing on dire marsh
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>>560008203
they won't
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>>560007272
lmao what the fuck is that drop? not even destiny 2 had those when going in maint
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>>560008161
>he didn't hide behind a wall for half a minute
what a fool amirite
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>>560007964
imagine how much better the game would be if shields just recharged on their own at a healthy rate.
this game would probably have more players
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>>560008562
>this game would probably have more players
We don't need their kind over here. This is real game.
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>MIDA barter
>1 lead for 1 claymore
>heh it’d be funny to spam a building with these
>get 33 claymores
>take a green backpack and just the claymores
>run straight to flight control in solos
>start planting claymores and giggling to myself
>idea is no longer funny about 30 seconds later when I find out something
>tfw you can only place around 9 claymores before they just start self detonating
>tfw claymores self detonate after 5 minutes of being placed
>think maybe if I just wait long enough with the few claymores I have someone will eventually come
>no one comes for the whole match
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>>560008531
>why did the number go down to near zero when it was on maintenance and people couldn't play
seriously go get a job at a mine or something, your towering intellect is wasted interacting with humanity
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>>560008562
i'd be for it because i don't like how many consumables there are for poison and hacking resistance and other shit.
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>>560008829
it would work better for the game considering how fast paced its going. its like they wanted to make a br but had to add a ton of bullshit to make it "hardcore"
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>>560008795
This game is dying. Deny it all you want.
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What's the point of the trap bag if it doesnt spawn a corpse next to it?
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>>560008562
This would drastically improve the feel of the game.
in my opinion solos, not rook, should have a kind of halo style radar. The games clearly not designed with the intention of 10 people all playing ghost with each like paranoid schizos
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>>560008732
>first team into hauler
>set up claymores on the entrances because there will surely be another team
>after about 5 minutes of looting hear faint footsteps
>claymores all start spontaneously exploding alerting the incoming team that we are inside
>wiped
Optimal claymore usage is literally that looney tunes webm of the rook just running away placing them behind him as he goes and getting a triple from the dumbasses chasing him running into every single one
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>>560008986
>The games clearly not designed with the intention of 10 people all playing ghost with each like paranoid schizos
It absolutely is on almost every level.
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>>560008795
>seriously go get a job at a mine or something
>Chronic Urbanite woman hating on fucking MINING jobs

Digging is great, I wish I was a miner (im too weak for that job)
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>>560008942
>what’s the point of a trap if people are smart enough to avoid it?
Traps are not meant to kill smart people anon, they’re for killing retards
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>>560008936
Imagine how fat you'd have to be to spend all your time going in generals for a game you dont play to convince people to stop having a good time. Generational bitchless jobless behavior. I'd clock you at no lighter than 290
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>>560009181
I'm a 130kg fat cunt and I fucking love Marathon
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>>560008795
>>560009181
>O NO A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR CORP RELEASED SLOP, SLURPSDLURPSLURP
>HOW DARE YOU ATTACK THE MULTIBILLION DOLLAR CORPO
>WAAAWAAAWAAA
fucking kill yourself, genuinely, end yourself. running defense for pedo mega corps.
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>tfw this game is your new addiction and your favorite game to come out this year, maybe all of last year
>tfw it's guaranteed going to be shut down
Fuck me man. I guess we really can't get good vidya anymore cause nobody fuckin plays them.
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>>560008732
>tfw claymores self detonate after 5 minutes of being placed
What is even the balance reasoning behind this?
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>>560009075
Idk most of my trio games there’s lots of direct engagements and prolonged team fights. Majority of teams I see aren’t too concerned with their noise levels or moving around as a stealth squad or avoiding the UESC because there’s 3 sets of eyes and ears.
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>>560009389
it's literally apex legends with extra steps.
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>>560009331
Correction. 400lbs. You are no lighter than 400lbs and your computer chair is fighting for its fucking life
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>>560008942
Place it near other bags.
>big fight, we third party it
>win, but not sure if there's a straggler or not
>two of them died next to each other
>put fake bag in between them
>leave
>running away from the point, suddenly
>*muffled bang in the distance*
>*elimination beep*

Also, the point of claymore is to use it on Thief's drone so I can train for ww3
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>>560008994
after playin dire marsh, perimeter feels so barebones but actually properly balanced
FUCK ALGAE POND
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>>560009596
>they are sending women shills now

Total bungie desperation.
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>>560008795
Read my post again, but this time without fuming
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>>560009687
>y-you're a g-girl

500 lbs
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>>560009389
>https://youtu.be/1zPn78uRRbk
even bf6 which sold well at the start is causing layoffs. its over. slopathon isn't going to last till 2027. live service games need a decent active playerbase. server hosting is not cheap, and its not getting cheaper.
>>560009596
i weigh 135lbs
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not watching that bro sorry
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>>560009389
>tfw it's guaranteed going to be shut down
I don't know that it is, because I simply don't believe the player retention rate is half as bad as people seem to make out. Without exaggeration, every actual single person I've actually talked to about the game who's tried it has liked it. It's not even that few people. I've never seen this kind of disconnect between the broad consensus and the consensus of literally everyone I actually know.

It could just be a matter of outrage slop getting ahead of people which leaves some room for a turnaround overtime.
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>>560009749
>still hosting destiny 1
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>>560009749
The layoffs are mostly because c-suite executives view game developers as seasonal hires
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>>560010042
not at the end of 2026 they wont be. its all going to be gone.
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>>560009749
>even bf6 which sold well at the start is causing layoffs
EA literally and directly stated that they expected BF6 to do numbers that would make fortnite blush. Despite all the shitposting I've not seen the slightest shred of evidence that this kind of delusion was in place for Marathon.
>server hosting is not cheap
It absolutely is
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>>560010159
Sauce?
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>>560010187
December 2026
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>>560009684
Dire Marsh is a mess of a map. Outpost and Perimeter have a nice flow to them and varying routes you can go through, but everything is bottlenecked through fucking algae ponds and intersection. Even if there are usual rotations on the other maps at least the choice is there to split off into different routes.

God forbid you spawn at intersection too; dire marsh has some absolutely god awful spawns but starting at intersection or complex is basically the game telling you you’re about to lose your kit. Fucking awful map
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>>560008936
>>560009096
>>560009331
>>560009710
Holy fuck when did all these retards infest this website?
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>>560010291
>December 2026
I said sauce
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>>560010425
4chan? At least early 2000s
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>>560010425
when a slop general infested my website. fuck off tourist.
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>>560010303
sounds like a skill issue
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>>560010425
2020
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>>559988884
Didn't they say that you will be able to replay passes or something like that?
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>>560010303
i remember spawnin near intersection and our team got wiped out just for simply tryin to do the quest that contacts a warden to come in and you gotta do the shippin crate shit
there was like a team right fuckin there ready to swoop in on us
gross place
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I just hit level 20 and still feel like I suck balls at this game.
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>>560010609
they wont go away i think. which is not even that cool because they are just glorified mtx purchases you have to work on
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>>560010537
>my website
600lbs, approximately 15 teeth total
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>Welcome to the Tau Ceti Cup, a deadly competition where six teams take on Tau Ceti and compete for the title of the first ever Tau Ceti Cup Champions.
>The tournament will go live on Saturday, March 14 at 11 AM PT featuring IceManIsaac and Activee to cast all of the action. Over the course of the tournament, teams are tasked with earning favor for each faction, eliminating high-value targets, and clearing the competition from Tau Ceti.
>The winning team will take home exclusive prizing, with each member receiving a custom Marathon jacket created by Australian cosplayer Vamprea, alongside rewards for their community.
>There are three rewards up for grabs during the Tau Ceti Cup. Tune in to any of the competitors Twitch streams on Saturday, March 14 from 11 AM PT to 4 PM PT to secure: pic related
https://x.com/MarathonTheGame/status/2031747566812180723
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>>560010425
>still fuming
bro, read what i posted, slowly
then answer me
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>>560010801
I’m level 43 and I just spent the past 4 hours jobbing to assassin solo rats in outpost. You’re not alone anon.
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>>560010537
>my website
Shit Hiro, why don't you ban us then
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>>560010716
Consider not rushing your objectives inside points of interest at the very start of the game where other people are going to either be looting or trying tondo the exact same contract
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>>560010869
its kinda wild how fast time moves. This would've been great to do during the first weekend and now terrible to do after the first week
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Where the fuck is the large sarcophagus alien?
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>>560010020
all my friends who tried it said it was a boring mind numbing game, most streamers say the same thing when asked. that seems to be the general opinion.
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>>560011114
>all my friends
>most streamers
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>>560010869
They can go fuck themselves.
>le angry wabbit
I wish i had a robot army like UESC so i could curbstom bungie and sony into paste.
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apparently Bungie/Sony are holding a press conference at Mar-a-Lago later on today, it doesn’t look good sisters, I think it might be over
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>>560010975
>hiro
epstein's bitch.
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You know what the biggest problem with Marathon?
That every item value is something between $10 - $2000, Imagine how cool would be if the nubers where on the hundred of thousand or even millions
There is less inflation on a collapsed dystopic Future ruled by corporations than in current America? Bullshit. Lame ass bullshit.

Just add two zeros to everything
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>>560011372
>they're sending all Thiefcucks to Iran
Dare I say it... based?
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>>560011372
>"We are going to gift 20 Lux to every Runner, never done before, maybe the greatest Lux incentive ever"
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i just lost 2x 5k+ kits in <2min gameplay
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>>560010537
and the dozens of mobile game generals on this board dont bother you?
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what are the chances of me dying tryin to activate a terminal in algae ponds?
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>>560011114
>the kind of people who listen to streamers say it's "boring"
That explains why nobody I talk to seems to dislike it then
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aiiiieee what am I supposed to do here?
I dropped two grenades on it and it did nothing
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>>560012428
Heat grenades dont count
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Is there any downside to leaving the LMG's shield on at all times?
It doesn't even seem bright if you're not ADSing
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>>560012476
It was frag grenades
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https://x.com/TauCetiGG/status/2031674310407213101

fellas?
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>>560012382
Not low
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>>560012632
>rook doesn't spawn with the broken shotgun anymore
>broken shotgun is still broken
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>>560012632
Lost in the sauce studio
Game is Gone
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>>560012543
Wait you have to switch it on? Fuck
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>>560012632
UHG WHY ARE THEY MAKIN THE GAME MORE CASUAL FRIENDLY? WE WANT OUR GAME TO BE EXCLUSIVELY GAY
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>>560012976
Yeah, you press Z and it emits some yellow shit. Then you ADS and you can see the shield pop out around you.
You need literally any mod in the shield slot to do this.
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Bros, are we gonna last longer...?
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>>560013092
Fuck i never had it switched on when I was using them
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>>560012632
i hope enemies are still challenging, the threatening enemies were one of the things i really liked about this game
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>>560013123
Didnt Highguard closed like a month before?
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>>560013026
UESC already weren't a big deal for crews. This is basically just a solo change.
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>>560013026
This but unironically
Behead casualniggers
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>>560013026
It doesnt really need it. I hope it's balanced by more clankers
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>>560013026
gay is when the game is hard
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>>560012632
This "small amount" is actually really noticeable
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>>560012632
WHERE IS MY HUB MARTON?????
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>>560013213
They're still pretty good as a third party threat in fights. Honestly I think it plays a little better even in 3s, outside of the heavy PvE encounters which now feel a bit anemic (pinwheel entrance in particular, though I've only done it with destroyer since the update).
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>>560013516
OVERDELIVERY
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really bungie
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>>560013597
Whats the age of consent on Tau Ceti?
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>>560013597
ToT will save the game????
Wasn't on my cards.
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if I cant shoot during destroyers riot shield
and you cant melee while using his shield either
and I cant use my ult either during the shield
and it takes time to raise and lower
what the fuck is it for? for retards to waste ammo on if they are new to the game then i kill them while they are reloading? i feel like that will stop working very very soon
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>>560013687
Depends on population projections
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>>560013719
Yeah, you should be able to hipfire or sprint and punch and shit.
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>>560013719
Imagine if you had teammates to fire while you hold the shield up

Also exfill
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>>560013597
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>>560013597
Someone get Grummz on the line I have an idea..
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>>560013719
destroyer has the highest base melee stat in the game, combine this with a melee chip and simply use the shield to get within boost range, then lower, boost, and bop em on the head
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Bungie devs cannot be raped by Sony if Sony stop existing as a Company
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>>560013196
I don't know how you could stand using an LMG without it.
The whole point of the gun is that the shield gives you a trump card in straight up damage dump fights like this.
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>>560014106
Do NOT look up how much european government income comes from giving fines to foreign game and tech companies.
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>>560014106
whats up with all the recent video game lawsuits lately? also that twitter account is very gay he flip flops constantly between clearly wanting games to fail and "neutrally" reporting that "most people seem to want something to fail" and its like, thats you nigga you're the one propagating that shit lmao
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>>560013719
Getting up close or retreating to cover. I know it seems awkward but an "I can't be shot" button is actually pretty good.

Also just bring it with a WSTR and run at people for free kills in solo
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no it doesn't (seriously)
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i NEED recon cock
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>>560014376
Unless it adds PvE it does nothing to save the game.
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>>560014376
Wow, did they remove the hero system and allow for full shell customization instead?
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>>560014064
Doesn't it take too long to put away to do that?
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So why do we even have Recon
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>>560014376
solo is viable now?
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>>560014376
Did they add a cool solo campaign? Damn
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>>560014537
Well. Uh… you need a scout who is the least mobile character in the game even behind the tank class.
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>>560014376
>shotgun and rifles are still broken and haven't been touch
>rook still spawns with a free shotgun but now is le compromised
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>>560014376
Is there item insuring?
>no
Is there a simple fucking firing range map?
>no
Is there a safety wallet?
>no
THEN NOTHING HAS BEEN ADDED YOU FUCKING RETARDED CLICKBAITING FAGGOT. I want to nuke xitter
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>>560014376
>"Merton is saved Chud, Now come back and play! you virgin unemployed fatso, I mean customer"
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>>560014489
PvE from Bungie hasn’t been good since 2010. Go back to Destiny.
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>>560014537
Recon's yellow cores are no less retarded, anon
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Crucible needs to have insane changes, not just "+1% movement speed, -1% ADS speed"
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>>560014683
>the tank class
>DESTROYer
I think you have misinterpreted what that class is for
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PLAY THAT FUCKING TRACK
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>>560014843
>>560014537
forgot image
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>>560014376
i mean it was good before but this is the current state of the industry. base product is fine but you need to do some sort of "crowd-win-over" moment where everyone goes THEY LISTENED but really it was just some minor tweaking that they were always going to do anyway

whatever if it drives more people to the game its a good thing because im enjoying it
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Is Cryo going to save the population?
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>>560014376
>They are finally returning to form
AAAAANND WE ARE BACK TO BLASTING
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>>560015134
my worry is theres several outliers to the weapons(shotguns, snipers) and they did manage to fix thermals, but again we still have one tap shotguns and the most they did was give the overun rifle more ammo for some reason.
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>>560014537
>>560015116
so either recons Q needs a buff or she already has some seriously busted cores I dont know about that allow her to keep pace with those upgrades. and truth be told, thief's drone getting stuff like this is fine because she is one of the other main "information" classes, drone is basically a scout, but yeah i hope recon has cores that make her Q more valuable than what early warning system and intuition do for you
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>>560015276
Is going to bring people back for 20 minutes until people realize "wtf I need s key? fuck this shit" and uninstall the game again
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>>560015276
No, you need a keycard to get onto the Marathon Anon to even play on the fourth map.
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>>560014770
Its compromised so you cannot print money anymore.
>free claymores
>free cores
>free augs
>free gun
And all of it can be sold upon exfil.
Just run Rook, get mats and consumables and sellables and be happy.
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>>560015316
maybe im just a shitter but i hated the overrun before, this might make it usable for me. then again ive always hated the default assault rifle in halo

and im torn on the shotgun stuff, hard not to have such a risk reward thing feel shitty when you're on the receiving end of it working on you. you need to be so close but yeah its an instant kill basically. not sure how to change that in a way where the shotgun is still viable. if you nerf damage to where both shots from the double barrel dont kill, then the gun is practically worthless
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>>560015401
Pinging an entire squad whenever you get one kill is basically a free win on a teamfight and early warning system means you can't be jumped ever.
These are more useful than the drone which can already find people proceeding to find people.
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its actually such a fucking retarded model
>you want to have fun? first grind quests for 50 hours so you can level the playing field
>also we will reset every season so you have to do it all over again lol
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>>560015276
i havent left perimeter
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>>560015276
midwit jesus recently did a very positive stream where he played the game, this is the beginning of an unironic no memes vibe shift and im not kidding
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>>560011437
>just make shit harder to read
Shut up retard. All the prices are fake and gray anyways, there are no consumer protections when you're a brain in a jar who signed away all your rights
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>win tournament
>get construction worker jacket
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>>560015413
>>560015470
Why are they trying to make it worse than tarkov?
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The endless horde of assassissies in solos is getting a bit tiring. You can kill so many but it's only a matter of time until one gets lucky.
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>>560015795
>>560015795
>>560015795

Extract when ready
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>>560015704
the journey is the fun part
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>>560015413
>>560015470
given how easy it is to fill your vault in this game, i cant see keys being difficult to find
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>>560015616
the game seems like it should take full advantage of the two weapon system
break the shield, swap to shotgun and finish them off
it shouldn't be im next to you now, you die to my gun in .30 seconds. they made balancing extremely fucking gay because they had to have a hero system
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>>560015749
>made by australian cosplayer
I guarantee you that wasn't an accident. Hi-viz is like a whole thing here.

That said it'd would probably go hard at a con or something where looking like an autist matters a bit less.
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>>560015749
>we want the edgerunner engoodening fan base
not a bad strategy desu
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>>560015824
Page 5 exfil is kind of wild. We go when the time is right.
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>>560014537
>>560014843
>>560015116
>>560015401
>>560015681
nvm im retarded i didnt realize intuition and early warning system ARE recon cores, ya thiefs pinging drone does not overttake recon at all after realizing that
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>>560015749
professor membrane style, not bad
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Is anyone certain how many players there are on a solos match? I really need to start capitalizing on my high kill games and doing more PvE shit when i have the lobby to myself
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>>560014376
It doesnt even remotely.
>no PvE
>shotguns are still busted (not just damage, but most importantly - sound, they are quieter than a magnum)
>shields not buffed to ignore headshot crits
>tracked collectibles cannot be untracked once you find the last one for 5/5 entry
>gunshots in the distance are too loud now
>sounds made in the underground level (station) very audible outside on the surface
>runners still glow red when in proximity
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>>560015958
bit too fortnitey for my tastes tbqh. i mean that strat is currently extremely viable for heavy npcs, i do it against the riot shield bots all the time, energy off hand to break, main ballistic to damage deal, but needing to do that in every pvp encounter or else you arent being efficient, might feel rough
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>>560015749
Hang on, so they have money and time to make this shit, but PvE is out of question? Abject retards. All of their management needs to be put in front of a firing squad.
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>>560016141
shields should never ignore a headshot crit
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>>560015749
My old Columbia jacket looks better than this, and its 20 years old.
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>>560016141
>>560016289
what is this "no pve" meme? this has more pve than tarkov
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>>560016139
15 on perimeter, 18 on marsh, 12 on outpost
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>>560016548
>using tarkov as a baseline
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what is the best source for gold loot other than key rooms? outpost has none. lol
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>>560013719
if he has teammates and he's holding s after taking damage and pulling it up, it's a huge pain
the existence of shotguns sort of fucks this interaction 90% of the time now though
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>>560013719
you can dash tho right? its good to close the gap without taking damage.
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>>560017726
I think you can find some in key rooms
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>>560017726
and you can barely even find blue items on the other maps. im level 40 and have only found like 2 keys, and crafting them is expensive as hell

somethings gotta give. the economy makes no sense as is
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>>559985827
if youre a medic and put drones on everyone you can give them the resistance with one item
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>>560013597
what is this, the new amogus?
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where or how can I get blue wires
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>>560014537
vandal can tag enemies through walls with her blast too
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>>560018120
it literally tells you dumb fucking retard
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>>560018382
well I went there and didnt find any
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i am a low ttk enjoyer but the shotguns are too much. they are not optional on outpost, and even on an open map like dire marsh, they have insane value.
it's actually ruining the game for me
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>>560015116
I don't like the core system. I'm fine with losing guns and other loot, but cores are such game changers than I feel like they should be mutually exclusive upgrades build into shells. Few things in this game feel as bad as losing a core you like.
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>>560018120
Sorry, I already took them all. Better luck next run.
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>>560019025
some of the augments feel significant like this, too. i hate having confetti loadouts. i want to make a loadout and playstyle my own. like i can in every single other extractions shooter, but it's just not realistic here
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>>560018120
For specific materials extraction play rook and b line it to the designated area. If you don’t find it abandon the run and try again
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>>560019025
I do think the system could be reworked. I like what they DO at least. Maybe some sort of system where the specific core lasted a while but you still lost a resource. Like you install cores and they last for a bit but you have core batteries to function as a more generic resource you're still risking, or something.
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>>560018120
Same places you get green wires but more
Station is a pretty good shot for them. I recommend thief for solo salvage runs, the visor really helps you get through a high traffic area like salvage quickly. Remember there's a path out through the basement into tunnels too.
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>nerfed UESC
why though
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>>560020909
THEY TOLD YOU WHY, CAN YOU READ?
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>>560013719
>playing solos
>destroyer sprints towards me with his shield up
>take out my knife
>watch him awkwardly back up since he’s realised he fucked up
>slowly walk after him and then stab him to death when he’s forced out of his tactical
It really destroys the whole power fantasy the character is supposed to have. He should definitely be able to at least do some kind of shield slam or ram if he has the shield out while using his sprint or dash
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>>560023734
Yeah I was actually shocked to learn he can’t melee with the shield like the NPCs
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>>560023734
And if he has a WSTR to dome you with the moment he drops his shield, faster than your knife DPS?
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>>560024969
>>560023734
I feel like he should be able to use pistols / do a shield slam with the thing. Like it absolutely should invalidate other players being able to fight him from the front, but be fairly low dps so it's not just an instant win-fight button.
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>>560023734
wait the knife goes through the shield? we doin dune rules?
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can machineguns w/ shield counter shotgun?
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they changed the destroyed wing puzzle.
I just went there and there wasnt a single button in, around or beneath the wing.
probably spread across the area now or something LOL GG
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>>560031240
no they deleted it for now
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>>560031240
>>560031447
and added some 'silent way' in, but i havent found that or looked it up
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>>560030209
You need to ADS up close which probably means missing a bunch. Maybe on gamepad but even then, eh. Real strat is to just back up, the range really is that short.
>>560031650
Silent way refers to some shit you can do to call down the lift from outside that was apparently preexisting.



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