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Game is Hard Edition

>Game Info:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/
>Marathon Game Home Page
https://www.marathonthegame.com/

>Gameplay Trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWwXSb7dlnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXhQbF7TlbA

>The Entire History of Marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhk
https://marathon.bungie.org/story/

>Play the Original Marathon for Free
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/

Databases:
https://tauceti.world/
https://tauceti.gg/
https://marathonmeta.gg/

/vg/ Discord:
https://discord.gg/k7PvdP5D

News:
>MARATHON TERMINALS ONLINE IN DIRE MARSH
https://cryoarchive.systems/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Xl543pQOw
>SEASONS & ROADMAP
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon
>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUT
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0
>FIRST OFFICIAL CUP COMING SOON
https://x.com/MarathonTheGame/status/2031747566812180723
>BATTLEPASS UPDATED
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xnRC9IxTkJo
>RECENT PATCH NOTES
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_0_0_4

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>>560101985
slavmonkey's can't help but use their mic when you down them and it's so funny, they're funny little accents insulting you in their funny broken english, it's honestly great and hearing it makes me feel less regret over buying and playing this piece of shit.
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Is /dg/ and /arg/ still raiding us
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>>560101985
solo more fun
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>>560102074
*their
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>>560102000
Remove the tranny discord from OP faggot
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>>560101985
It could be worse.

I'm a leaf but I live in Quebec. Multiple times I have gotten Squad fills with people that refuse to speak English and only speak French, or will only speak English and refuse to speak French.

On a run that I did two days ago, I had two teammates that were constantly bickering with each other because one would keep speaking English and the other would keep speaking French and they kept demanding the other one speak their language despite both of them clearly being from Quebec.
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>>560102197
They won't, the game failed and now they're insuring the general will too. They'll fuck off if the game lasts long enough for the general to move to /vm/
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>>560102238
quebecois are almost uniquely stubborn
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>no skill based matchmaking
enjoy being food i guess
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I need to empty my vault a little.
Tell me what to go lose in a squad fill.
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>>560102238
Tu est un travelo. Nous parlons Francais.
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>>560102419
Everything because it doesn't matter because the game will EoS by April !
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>>560102361
that's the whole fucking point, you never know if you're going against someone better or worse than you, and even then you always have a chance to get lucky.
SBMM is the worst thing to happen to gaming, I swear to christ
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>>560102361
source?
there's something like sbmm... maybe just levels. i get grouped with ~lvl 40s
my friend whos just started is playing with little babies
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>>560102117
You bet. Still desperately trying to force their narratives by making the exact same posts over and over again in every thread and replying to themselves when everyone actually playing the game tries to ignore them.
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Commanders are total jobbers now.
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>>560102197
Cry about it.
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>>560101985
I stopped playing trios after filling into teams that refused to talk and were constantly just free kitting. After the 5th time in a day being matched with free kitters i stopped doing trios
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>>560102361
There is some level of skill/rank/gear based matchmaking. Nobody knows exactly what it prioritizes.
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>>560102806
ywnbaw
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Marathon has not announced any sales/players milestones

It might truly be over
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>>560102929
trvke
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>>560102952
It's not even been a week (yet)
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>>560102952
cryo archive isn't out yet and bungie really considers it to be the ace in their sleeves, I'm expecting any post launch celebrations to come alongside the unlock of cryo
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I hereby announce again that I still don't have ANY FREE FUCKING VAULT SPACE
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the game needs some more time. (that they may not have)
we need the new map. i want shotguns to be nerfed.
give me a couple weeks after than and i'll let you know if it's a dead game
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>>560103087
this is essentially why i quit arc raiders, and it is why i am not playing marthon this morning. i might not even play marathon until the new map drops. im tired of feeling controlled. let me acquire wealth and be frugal you fucking faggots
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>>560102952
The amount of cope from /v/ when Bungie keeps on living for the future
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I'm new to extraction shooters.
What do I do now i've lost all my "good" shit and i'm broke from getting killed a lot?
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>>560102000
Nice trips
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>>560103157
i'm RICH and i still play free kits and rook, so you can too
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>>560102253
Lmao halo and destiny is even more dead than this
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>>560102000
should i buy this game instead of arc raiders?
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>>560103157
Do outpost runs on rook
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>>560103064
>Cryo
>You need the ultra rare lab key to even get there
Yeah sure
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>>560103226
depends on what you are looking for
this one is heavy pvp
that one is heavy pve
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https://x.com/i/status/2031926355533697116

It’s not lost on me that Arc Raiders designed a game that revealed a surprising undercurrent of gamer wholesomeness, while Marathon designed a game that turns its players into sadistic maniacs.

Fight it if you want, but the darkness will take you eventually.
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>>560103226
have you played/considered tarkov? i would recommend tarkov over both of these (if you have a decent PC)
even hunt showdown before these two
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>>560103157
You rook or freekit while doing easy contracts
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>>560103285
I don't like slavshit or westerns
Is dark and darker any good
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>>560102238
>or will only speak English and refuse to speak French.
how is that bad?
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>>560103212
>>560103256
>>560103312
I thought Rook couldn't do contracts?
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>>560103157
Freekit, rook, run non "good" gear you have left over.
Learning that the game is easy come, easy go when it comes to gear is very important when it comes to any extraction shooter. This is probably more true in Marathon than other games where the gear is mostly supplementary rather than giving you straight up DPS and shit.

Missions, upgrades and levelling up are what's forever, as well as your stash of salvage for future upgrades. The gear and money sitting around doesn't actually do anything, so losing them doesn't *really* matter.
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>>560103387
It can't, you run Rook to scavenge gear
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>>560103338
dark and darker was very special; but from what i loosely followed, the dev went full spaghetti.
there's also arena breakthrough infinite, which is a casualized chinkshit clone of tarkov
man... arc raiders at release was kind of the best. i'm sorry you missed it (there's no going back)

i'd go with marathon if you're resilient to failure (i see it as progress)
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>>560103387
You play rook to get gear and money with zero risk.
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>>560103276
At least in arc raiders theres reasons to cooperate and you have enough time to go "friendly, don't shoot" even if they fire a few shots into you

Marathon looked at that and said "don't even give them a chance to say friendly, also make the contracts only doable by one squad at a time, also make the PvE suck so people don't have to work together"
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>>560103285
nobody in their right mind would ever recommend tarkov to anyone for any reason
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>>560103338
>Is dark and darker any good
it's complete dogshit, because of how the combat works literally the only stat that matters is movement speed.
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Why does Traxus give you xp for killing drones
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>>560103586
tarkov is easily the best extraction shooter and it's not even close. everything else is for those who were filtered (or needs a break)
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>>560103276
>Oh wow, that sounds really dark, I wonder what this link could contain to have shaken anon so much
>It's just a guy who lost a fight having a laugh with his killer before he dies.

Jesus christ how horrifying. Truly the heart of man is corrupt beyond measure.
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Mein Gott
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>>560103698
Tarkov is the best because there's no competition not because it's good.
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>>560103739
THAT MAN IS BEING TORTURED
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>>560103698
oh you are actually just clinically insane, didn't know they let you post from the loony bin but it would explain a lot of this website
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>>560103749
free him
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>>560102000
Limp and pathetic tranny penis!
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>>560102952
get a life
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>>560103749
reply with "if you're so good why didn't you 1v3"
I assume you died
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>>560103698
Too bad it's completely infested by an absolute armada of cheaters. All things considered, it's only a matter of time when the same cancer ports on over to Marathon.
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I like this game but I don't know how to play it.

Here's the thing. It's basically dark souls pvp with guns. You basically invade and fuck each other up but I feel like the fights are too fast. The term ttk fell a lot and I never thought about it before now. I'm ok with dying when getting ambushed but engaging and then getting practiacally one shot is a bit ayylmao

It's still early so it's like whatever but people will scream pretty soon that the game is too hard and if I'm honest I don't know how they would even want to fix this if at all.
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>>560103815
>the progenitor of the genre is actually dumb and bad
maybe so... maybe so
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I miss when Bungie was the trendsetter for games starting off the FPS genre with Halo

Not "ummm hero shooters are big right now, lets make one of those, WAIT NOW ITS EXTRACTION SHOOTERS"
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>>560103913
>I like this game but I don't know how to play it.

You shoot the other guy before he can shoot you, hope this helps.
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>>560103836
I made that picture yesterday...
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>>560103954
yes nigga it's made by retarded russians
pubg started battle royales but it sure as fuck wasn't good
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>>560103860
i started like 1~2 months after 1.0 to level 35 (not much by tarkov standards) but only encountered like ~3 obvious cheaters. so maybe something has changed
ive also played during some of the hacker dark ages (like chinese vacuum cheaters, etc.), it really does seems to be in a better place
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>>560103860
I have ~2k hours in tarkov and around 60% sr half of my deaths are honestly to ai. Even if we assume half of player deaths is to cheater that's like 1/10 raids with average of ~10 players per raid that's like 1/100 players cheating it's really not that high and that's assuming half my deaths are to cheaters realistically it's way lower than that.
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>>560104126
i meant re-started. i have like 2500 hrs
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>>560103860
>>560104126
>>560104140
>there are less cheaters now
sounds like Tarkov got boring for them
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>>560102361
if i want to play a competetive game i play a competetive game
>>560103087
200k at lvl 36? how the frick?
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Solo Command Wing is still piss easy and an incredibly profitable experience if you're willing to go solo.

Here's a run where I made about 30 grand.
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>>560104247
just don't die or run free shit constantly
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>>560104259
I don't like killing people
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>>560104140
You do realize you don't have to make it too blatant in this genre? Already having a decent close quarters ESP will completely ruin games of this nature in every facet, even if it's just a couple of players. Where do you think all the best items will be vacuumed to after a wipe. To the best players? Lmao.
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why is this game a culture war hot spot again? it doesn't seem to have anything that agitates the usual grift squad, i dont see why so many people seem obsessed with making it fail
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>>560104247
nta but he was probably abusing the hell out of pinwheel as rook or w/ a premade. they deleted destroyed wing entrance for a reason
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Vandal is cool!
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>>560104313
whats ur vault worth
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>>560104324
bungie deserve to crash and burn
simple as
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>>560104230
sounds like you have a classic case of skill issues. Good players always sit around 60-70% sr if the game was as infested with cheaters as you claim they would get stomped every other match yet they aren't.
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>>560104324
A lot of it is third world twitter retards who are trying
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>>560104372
he's asking who told you to think this?
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>>560104259
shutting off access from the destroyed wing and the vents made pinwheel so much easier since you only have to fight on the way there and then whoever got in through the entrance you didn't take
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>>560104324
bungie
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>>560104372
why come? people dont like the new halos?
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>>560104423
me, i can think for myself
>>560104493
this bungie isn't the halo bungie
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>>560104324
Retards trying to huff up the last few vapors of concord since they missed out on Tortanic, which never really happened
The fact that Sony can just tank shit like Concord and Ubisoft is still chugging along goes to show for that
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>>560104324
Remember when cyberpunk came out and despite steam reviews sitting at like 85% positive and like 1 mil concurrent players everyone on the internet claimed it's the worst game ever?
I'm not saying it's the same but it feel similar.
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>>560104259
what are you trying to do when youre in there? are lockers the big bux? i havent done it enough-- i just go in and wander around looting like... 10k worth, but not much more
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>>560104526
so why do they deserve to crash and burn?
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>>560104439
You realize they can just walk right behind you right? I've killed plenty of people just stalking behind them and killing them when they're looting. Opening the entrance is loud as fuck and entire map will know you just entered.
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How do I exfil from outpost as rook
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>>560104563
He's playing thief so I assume he skips everything that doesn't show up as purple speeds up the process of looting massively while letting you only keep the best shit. Also do the "secret" room or whatever it's called it has the best loot there you can easily get ~15k just from that room alone
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>>560104683
Guarded ones are your best bet, or then attempt to either 1v3 yourself into a restricted one or jump in during the last second.
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>>560104653
there's no way up behind if you go through drone wing, you only have to worry about people entering through the front door and you need to clear out that wing if you wanna get into command anyway
if you close some doors behind you and listen a little you are very hard to ambush unless you're actively fighting the bots
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>>560104683
the final exfil has been like 80-90% successful for me, anything before that is pure chance.
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>>560104683
Wait for the last exfil and jump in last second. Even if someone is there they won't have enough time to down you and finish you. Getting at least one smoke grenade helps shitton.
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>>560104750
ah, true... what's the secret room? ive done the locked room (keycards), and the boss room. but i think that's it
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>>560104324
burnt destiny players and people sick of live service games

>>560104545
Cyberpunk was hyped through the roof and launched as buggy and shallow as the average modern bethesda game. No one was praying for its downfall beyond /v/ posters pissed it got delayed a million times.
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>Love the game, always camped in FPS
>See redditors beg for skill based matchmaking
>See 4chan complaining, that game's too hard
>Remember people defend FromSoftware, saying they should not add easy mode
I don't get it, why no difficulty (((balancing))) in Sekiro or Elden Ring is ok, but no baby-matchmaking in Marathon - not ok.
>But game will die soon
If it gets neutered it will die too, it won't be as good.
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is destroyer good if youre kinda dumb
he looks like the easy tank guy, right?
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>>560104908
elden ring already has easy mode
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>>560104809
>>560104859
>>560104756
Thankee sai
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>got rid of black screen loading in
>you get annoying pause when you're loading in instead
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>>560104951
I mean, kinda? His shield is a great "Oh shit" button if you move out of cover when you shouldn't, he has great movement abilities that arent complex to use, and his ulti is literally "Deal damage? Have some more! Also it stuns enemies so they stand still for you to light them up"
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>>560104951
he's hard to use well. assassin is the easiest by far, and you can't go wrong with triage. maybe thief after that
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>>560105028
blame console chuds
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>>560104545
Now that you mention it, yeah. I was a launch day cyberpunk enjoyer who was confused about the overwhelming vitriol the game was receiving from all sides, and then one day public opinion just randomly 180'd when the game hadn't even changed all that much outside of a lot of bug fixes. There's every chance that could happen with Marathon at some point, who knows.
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>>560104908
Console babies, destiny pve retards, ARC retards
Casuals who thought the artstyle was cool etc etc
To be fair bungo brought this upon themselves, "Hey guys lets combine a soulful artstyle, deep narrative from our game from 30 years ago and uh...sorry mr executive sir what did you say was the genre that was getting popular? Oh yes, extraction shooters!" What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>560104973
i do appreciate stuff like this (intentional or not) as 'easy mode'. diegetic/optional stuff, that isnt just a menu. nioh is sort of like this too (sloth talismans, certain martial arts, etc). or bowguns in mh. i guess its common enough
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>>560104908
Anon, the people demanding it be dumbed down are not real people with legitimate opinions.
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>>560104908
Anon, the people performatively demanding it be made unfun via artificial difficulty are not real people with legitimate opinons.
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>>560104908
Man I miss the Pure Pwnage era of gaming, back then you could just tell crying carebears "suck my nuts" and it'd be over.
Now they come up with company financial projections and market research like they're getting paid for it
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>>560104908
Jumping fools as Forest Hunters and Watchdogs is some of the most fun I had in DS.
Elden Ring as a whole and the co-op mod basically made ER babby tier friendly. Modern gamers don't take pvp loss well if they don't expect it, which makes me wonder how they'd survive playing a fucking board game
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>>560104908
Anon, the people claiming the game is good as it is are not real people with legitimate opinons.
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>>560105158
people are parroting "deep narrative" as if OG marathon's story wasn't told entirely through terminals aka proto-codex entries
it's the exact same style of story delivery
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does this game have a female audience
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>>560105313
ive heard one single girl on comms, several trans, and lots of blacks
take from that what you will
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>>560105313
it has "female" audience
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>>560104259
I love playing free kits and Rook. I don't know why, but I get really nervous and play really bad when I run a bad kit. With free kits I go crazy.
>>560104352
150k
>>560104341
No. No exploits and solo only
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>>560105313
I heard a lot of Bri-ish foids
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>>560105313
Female belongs in the kitchen ropeyourself

>>560104908
Based FPS Doug
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>>560105307
Oh I didn't mean it like that anon. I have no idea about the games before, I just think just by nature of having shells under corporate yoke this shit's cyberpunk as fuck, and I do love me some cyberpunk not because of the neon bullshit but the depth of philosophical shit it can delve into. I just assumed they'd have some worldbuilding done in 3 previous games to facilitate that.
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>>560105409
>but I get really nervous and play really bad when I run a bad kit. With free kits I go crazy.
gear fear, it's a classic. It will go away after a few hundred hours.
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I wish they'd add freekit or even knife only mode
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>>560105372
i thought black folx liked sports game and fighters
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>>560105470
You are only on a human vessel for 1 and a little of infinity. 90% of the world building is insane schizo terminal entries from a rampant ai
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test
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>>560104908
>>Love the game
I do too. Every time I hear someone playing PvE, I sneak up and mag dump him in the back.
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>>560105313
I got partied up with someone who sounded like a middle aged English woman during the server slam and the first thing she did was complain about how her teammates always get mad at her when she runs off on her own to do her contract and more or less said she's going to do it again whether I like it or not.

Miraculously, she actually did finish her contract and then came back to help us and we all exfiled.
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>squad camps my 2 freekit buddies corpses for ten minutes
But why tho
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>>560105613
wow fuck you
I'd uninstall
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>>560105676
So you don't res and kill them in the back later.
Me personally I just grab all the weapons and ammo and drop them in some hidden spot.
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>>560105489
they did it's called solos
genuinely never ran into anyone with more than a white shield there and running up on people London style never gets old
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reminder that at any given time at least half the player count is confirmed to be botted
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>play 20 matches of outpost without seeing a single munitions box
>finally say "kys bungie" and reroll
>find munition box first thing next game
>now I need to find medical cabinets and they are nowhere either
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>>560105845
wasn't it like 5-10k by looking at that sharp drop during maint?
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Sucked in too fast. FUCK. I wanted to delete his loot.

FUCK
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>>560102952
they’re still waiting for the pay day bump, Residen Evil Requiem and Crimson Desert pre-orders were the priority for people, we’ll be seeeing a massive bump and sales figures of millions in a couple of weeks
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>>560105954
anon pay day was over a week ago...
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when do i unlock snipers
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what factions have you guys been leaning towards?
ive been grinding nucaloric contracts like a rat
>knife only, no other gear, die intentionally rather than exfil so I can get to the next contract faster
i really want to get to the higher levels so I can unlock blue and purple shields from the store
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>>560105901
contract based matchmaking and map generation is real and it's hell
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>>560106004
yeah, the nexg fuggin pay day, I tolded you the pre-orders especially for Crimson Desert were more important for people who only boughted one game a month, we will see millions of sales figures soon
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got this guy to do a guarded exfil and then i killed him im a terrible person
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>silk full
what is silk for
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>>560105945
Me as Thief
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>>560106101
>boughted
SIR DO NOT REDEEM
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>>560106125
Get free shit from the Rewards Pass like Schemas and cosmetics.
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>>560106125
to progress the battlepass lmao
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is the V66 any good? seems like a volt DMR?
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>>560105954
i'll give that crimson desert game some time for someone to mod it, looks interesting but I don't like playing as preset characters in rpgs, I need to play as my OC Donut Steel mongoloid
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so the tactic seems to be in trios to ignore POI’s, bots, quests, loot literally fucking ignore everything

instead all three of you go looking for other teams on a Rape Royale rampage, then maybe loot for a minute or two and extract

nice fucking arena shooter you made Bungie, might have wanted to market this as such, there’s more fucking chance for PvE in fucking Quake 3 Arena
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>>560106240
I fucking love it. Great range, great array of attachments and as a Volt weapon it has extra utility on Triage. Even if i'm not playing Triage it's definitely up there with some other Precision rifles too.
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>thief can steal your stuff while you're in exfil animation
wtf...
my blue stuff...
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Hardcore gamers will never understand I don't have gear fear, I have holy fuck I can't believe I just wasted 20 minutes for nothing fear.
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>>560106253
>so the tactic seems to be in trios to ignore POI’s, bots, quests, loot literally fucking ignore everything. instead all three of you go looking for other teams on a Rape Royale rampage, then maybe loot for a minute or two and extract

Sounds like a great tactic if all you're looking to loot is some overruns and depleted shield charges. If that's your idea of gearing up then knock yourself out I guess.
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>>560106371
what's gear fear
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>>560106050
anyone who doesnt ask for me to give away like 8 pieces of salvage.
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>>560106117
seems like thats the pretty standard strategy for exfil
somebody starts it (guarded or normal), runs away
when they run in after the circle spawns somebody who has been watching the whole time kills them before they can exfil
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>>560106396
It's not really an issue in Trios as you can clear PoIs pretty reliably and other teams will occasionally too. In Solo it becomes a death trap option, as you might as well be broadcasting your location to the entire map of rats wanting to loot your would-be corpse. It's not that heavy of an issue with a silencer, but if you're not careful you'll eventually get third partied during some PvE encounters.
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>>560106371
for me; failures are expected. they are PROGRESS. what i dont fuck with is others profiting off of my work. the more i bring in, the more they see when they open my loot bag. FUCK that. if i could bring a 6 slot item that incinerated my loot when i die id run all my best shit every time
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>>560102361
>Game has Gear based matchmaking
>You upgrade your gear but only feel stronger against AI which you already beat to obtain the gear.
>Fights vs Players on average feel the same because they will matchmake with similar gear.
>Gear ultimately ends up being a BAD thing because a good player could just shit on newbies with white/green gear instead of progressing.
>Resets exist so why even bother using better gear
>Why even play if you aren't obtaining better gear.
I still fail to see how anyone plays this game past the first week or two.
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>>560106050
>mida
agility is op
>arachne
melee damage basically allows you to one shot all robots outside commanders
>sekiguchi
ult and skill at the start of the game when lots of encounters happen in the first 30 seconds of the game
>cyac
heat and stash space

So basically all of them lol
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>>560106592
>GBMM
>both my teammates are free kits every time
fuck off FAG you dont know what youre talking about
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>>560106592
>>Game has Gear based matchmaking

No it doesn't
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>thinking about blowing someone for a Marathon code
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>>560106018
Loot them
Sniper USEC drop them often
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I get it now why people were dreading the algae ponds. We were doing a Traxus contract there and it was a clusterfuck every time, at least 3 other teams arriving there as we were doing our dumb task, don't get me wrong we had some really good fights but had to retry it like 5 times to get our contract done.
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They'll for sure drop cryo during the weekend to try to break their peak player count to extinguish the dead game narrative, right?
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>>560106858
I really have a hard time believing there's just another 100k players waiting for this singular update which'll somehow save this flop. It might jump back to launch numbers maybe but that's a big maybe.
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Should've knifed him instead of shooting. FUCK.
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GOD why the FUCK does it not pair you with people with similar gear. It's the literal only thing stopping me from doing fill. I don't mind the people I find, but I mind that if I dare take gear to outpost I am GUARANTEED to match with two freekit players every single time.
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>>560107021
You should have not missed so much
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>>560107090
>GOD why the FUCK does it not pair you with people with similar gear.
Because ping is king. Connection based matchaking >>>
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>Contract with multiple objectives across the map

This is not fun
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>>560107140
I would rather wait longer to find a match with both.
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>>560106992
the overall sales have increased since the initial ath... ITS POSSIBLE. i think a few big updates and steam sales are what's going to keep it going though. and at any point during that, some streamer might start a new wave. unlikely, but possible
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>>560107112
I thought I had time to reload, dang it.
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When it goes free to play i am going to anally gape every single one of you with my recon futa cock
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>>560107264
>he's poor
>and gay
Sad
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>>560107090
Lol, eat shit.
I sell everything i loot, why risk gear when i can just sell it.
You eat a dick nigga, carry me.
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>>560106649
yeah mida is good for the agility but seems kinda poopy for everything else
all they give you otherwise is lots of grenades
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>>560107090
because all people with gear have friends. Imagine the kind of person you have to be to have 0 friends and still decide to play trio.
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>>560107441
I have friends but they all bought the dead game narrative :)
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>>560107407
This. Why the fuck am I hoarding ammo and guns andshit?
>dude go in with your purple shotgun and buy 6 heals
>whoops you died 2 minutes in :)
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they should really have a separate inventory for rook so i dont have to dump my whole loadout everytime I want to play rook
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>>560106992
mate you have no idea how bad the servers are going to get when they drop Cryo + the raid bosses, the world firsts are absolutely clamouring to get in, we’re talking billions, it’s probably gonna break the Steam CCU charts and take Steam offline, we’re talking biblical proportions
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>>560107498
then convince them otherwise surely they can spend a few $ to have some great time with a friend even if the game dies in a month.
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>>560107517
just have a purple shield so you dont die bro :)
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>>560107021
how did you slide to the side after punching him?
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Who are the people saying "marathon's story telling is so good"
Yea the method is neat, but the ARGs are nothing but content creator bait at the moment and despite the immense amount of creativity some of the marathon oldfags have for this franchise with Bungie personally also testing their little interactive timeline things, it really doesn't present much of a story at all?
Like, they launched this game with basically the opening chapters of a book. I don't think I've played a video game where there is legitimately no "cap-off" story moment, or at least some sort of progression as to the story. Even in other extraction shooters, story (in the loosest sense of the term) still happens or is implied to be happening.

They've gone for the old way of telling the story like in the previous marathon games (again, cool way of doing it) but there's nothing like a fully fleshed out plot outline right now for this game.
>they're going to develop it as time goes along you just have to wait
nigga they launched destiny 1 with SOME sort of an overarching plot or journey, I feel like this game is just a pure shooter akin to DOOM right now with how there is literally fuck-all engagement you can have with the story, which is ironic considering what Marathon was.
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>>560107640
I didn't, I was walking and hip firing.
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>>560107338
We are both poor and gay
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>>560107852
Nah, I have money
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recon pinging local bussy with her cock sonar
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>>560107578
Its not a great time.
You have to be a special kind of autist to enjoy the game, wich is fine for us.
Be glad you got some noobs to kill, for now.
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>>560103860
>>560104140
>>560104230
Dont worry, they are hard at work cracking open Mar. Do mind that Battle Eye is used for Conan Exiles, and it had (and still has), a whole lot of issues with cheaters. So it is only a matter of time.

Katz still recommends PVE mode. Atleast that way there is a guarantee that there will be no cheates to spoil your playtime.
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>How do you put up with Bungie
>Store is recolors
>No skill based matchmaking to save shitters
>No story mode
I don't give a flying fuck. I'm getting kills and exfils.
Game's good.
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>>560107909
Damn, you got me there bro
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>>560107759
The issue comes more from the maps themselves. How can you really present a story over three maps and a few POIs?
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what niches can future champions fill?
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>>560107992
Why not play a purely pvp game then instead of playing this half assed rat simulator?
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>champion
Begone, foul assfaggot player
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>>560107990
Tarkov's cheating epidemic was due to a lot more than just the ability to cheat, it was a general p2w culture that inevitably created cheaters. When your community is full of shit like multi hundred dollar progress skipping edition and paywalled maps you're GOING to have people take it one step further and pay for cheats.
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>>560108083
because the gunplay in all other games feels like indie-title garbage compared to this
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>>560108061
anal
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>>560108083
Because the broader structure of the match makes the pvp in this feel better.
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>>560108151
>the gunplay in all other games feels like indie-title garbage
This is true. And fuck "pure pvp" games. I want you lose stuff.
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>>560108257
>I want you lose stuff
Got nothing else going in in your life?
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>>560107090
>GOD why the FUCK does it not pair you with people with similar gear
So you can get farmed 66% of the time, and make other players feel god 33% of the time, that's the game loop they created for "endless" content
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The game is so good bros...Enjoy it, while it lasts.
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>30 hours in
>8000$ in the vault
>a few grey guns and some diodes

Is this correct?
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>>560108378
That guy is a piece of shit and has been doing that since the game released
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>>560108047
They could have the terminals be more descriptive rather than be shoehorned into the ARG which really hasn't done much but reveal a bunch of marketing promo trailers for the Cryo.
Why not have it so that the terminals are like they were in the original series? Why not have them have actual logs from the colonists, detailing the events over years and years with relevant plot and worldbuilding information based on where the terminals are? They could have a whole bunch of terminals you could let the player read or download then look in a hidden part of the codex or something.
Greenhouse could have a ton of stuff to do with the starvation angle, Quarantine could be cool for the fungal infection or a range of events, same with Bio-research. Maintenance could detail the lack of resources, dwindling supplies or the way they were able to survive post-phfor attack.

It'd be better than what they have now, because the alternative is "level up" or "grab x item and extract with it and then read the codex entry".
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>>560102197
>tranny discord
huh?
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I haven't noticed it on other skins, but the Vandal deluxe edition skin's arms disappear when close to walls
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After wasting 27 hours on this, I can now fairly say that it’s garbage slop that should never have been released. Thank fucking god Bungie is dead after this. All you drones need to fucking jump.
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>>560108572
this but I'm Thief
are you making these in blender? pretty cool
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Anytime I suspect there's PvE gameplay going on, I go help the UESC kill the runner.
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>>560108594
NO WAIT
IT GETS BETTER AFTER 30 HOURS I SWEAR
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>>560108594
https://youtu.be/xzpndHtdl9A
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>>560108150
You still sort of cannot see the forest for the trees. The issue isn't inherently about the incentives of a paywall, it's kind of completely endemic to the genre itself. If you ever make games where you encourage competition for scarce resources and then the cheaters leak through the sieve, the entire struggle of the rest of the player base becomes inherently pointless as those who have access to the best picks will obviously always be cheaters. They won't admit it and neither will devs nor the player base ever call them out for it, but in the end it'll just also devalue the efforts of those who are actually good at the game. In another genre it isn't that big of an issue, but extraction shooters are inherently community driven experiences in that sense and having some ESP toting dumb fuck teams with almost perfect extraction rates does very little to convince anyone to put in effort.
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>>560108594
>27 hours
Yoooou liiiiiiiiiiked iiiiiiiiiiit
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>knock out one dude in solos
>another guy appears and kills me
whats the counter to this?
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>>560108461
>has been doing that since the game released
isn't he like lvl 12?
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>>560103698
You must have autism to believe this.
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>>560108625
just some guy on xitter doing it
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>>560108594
>only needed to play 3 more hours before it got good
anon just stick with it, it gets so much more fun
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>thief trio takes turns sucking me off while they steal my loot
what's the counter to this?
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>>560108150
Anon, tarkov is infested with russians - cheating faggots who do it simply because they always need to be in a winning position. Its like with chinese and koreans were cheating is not looked down upon because if you have money to pay for cheat - you should use them to signify that you have money and are of a wealthy, and thus higher, status than the guy who is playing fair.
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>>560108760
Tarkov rule - there's always 1 more.
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reminder that marathon won an award over warhammer 40k
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>>560108625
u think some tranny on nu-4cuck would be capable of producing content? lolol
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I feel bad I can't win unless I surprise fuckers and chuck half a dozen grenades at em
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>>560108594
>actually bought the game
you have to be retarded anon, you realize that everyone on here is larping and doesn’t play the game right? and on other socials it’s just paid shills
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>>560108964
Warhammer is possibly the most derivative piece of fiction that mainly shamelessly cribbed from 2000 AD yet has the most batshit insane copyright and fanboyisms
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>>560108853
kegels so you can last longer
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>>560108760
dont loot until you know the coast is clear. dont treat knocking someone out as if the fight is over, be ready to swap to the next guy who appears. if you do get jumped after knocking someone out, dont be sure hes actually dead unless you see his body because he could have a self revive.
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>>560109030
Don't feel bad, shitters such and you and I have to get by somehow.
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>>560102748
> /dg/ rape victim cope
Lmao, nobody is playing this game maratroon.
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>>560108702
I am not unaware of that also being a factor, yes. Tarkov in particular made it worse though, with the way the community operated. They ENCOURAGED pay-for-advantage in a lot of aspects, in ways that I don't believe are inherent to the genre.
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>>560109056
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in awe at the amount of trannies in here, this game must be like crack to them for whatever reason, maybe its the vibrant colors?
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>>560109143
its recons humongous girlcock
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>>560109143
Anon why do you let trannies set up an lgbt convention in your brain
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>play 10 games
>lose all of them
>no money to buy med/shieldkits
>no money to buy ammo
>go in with free kit and rat out
>die anyway
>repeat 10 times
riveting gameplay sisters
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>>560109143
It's just a shitposting tactic. /v/ermin intentionally lowering thread quality to speed up the games' demise
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>>560108242
shooting people locked in an animation while doing pve isn't a "structure"
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>use good gear
>other runner within 100m of my spawn
>use freekit
>no other runners at all
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>>560109397
It's a stealth game
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>>560109089
and a fanbase full of fake fans and larpers, who act like 40k is stil lthis "based" and "right wing" franchise despite it being consoomer slop for almost a decade at this point
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>>560109303
play rook
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>>560109397
Yes it is
Not being locked in animations while someone shoots you is a goal that is within your reach to acheive.
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>>560108964
qrd?
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>>560108457
depends on how many faction upgrades you bought
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>>560109303
Play Rook. Unlock barter options. You wont believe the good baseline stuff you can get from barter deals. Play Rook, get kit and some stuff into stash, then play any shell, if you lose kit - play Rook again.
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>>560108969
I wanted to believe, I would totally make shit and post it here

but you're right, I used to do that in another general and it goes pretty under-appreciated, or worse, anons get mad at you for creating something and start overly criticizing it
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Finally unlocked the Worm...
Slow and steady wins the marathon... haha....
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>>560109030
You are the kind of person this game was made for

You can get farmed by 1/3 of the playerbase while you struggle, thanks for the $40
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>see man shooting robots
GO GO GO, FULL PRESSURE

NO PVE ALLOWED
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>>560109750
It's not that bad imho
I quite enjoy playing recon for the free grenade and destroyer is actually playable once you get a few cyac and sekgen upgrades
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hiiii (I got that :3 in me). what faction provides HRT for runners??
and what faction in general would be a good sponsor for trans runners??

thank u ^.^
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Let me double up Arachne contracts with other sponsors. All the their contracts I've done so far are just "kill people lol", so they feel wasteful compared to contracts from other sponsors because I'm killing people during those anyway.
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>>560109913
You're gonna get my dick in you too
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>>560109959
Arachne has like 2 contracts or something like that they're also the easiest faction to farm since you get 50 rep for finishing people.
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>>560109959
its dumb also how you can have 'DCON 6 rare things you would want to keep' or 'kill 3 robuts' and they give the same amount of rep. Thank god for the reroll
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>>560104526
>me, i can think for myself
doubt it
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>>560109852
how are you even supposed to defend yourself from the spider
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>check out the discord
>Subchannel;
>HRT guidance and tips
>HRT progression sharing
The state of /vg/
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>creeping around the corner from greenhouse to intersection
>hear shooting from inter, hide in bushes
>hear door open behind me
>destroyer drops down from greenhouse and is sprinting towards intersection
>go invis
>stab him in the face
>lots of nice items

this game is crazy
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I only camp. Unless someone's doing PvE. Then I rush over there to help the bots kill the player.
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>>560110125
the nucaloric one where you have to specifically deal toxic damage is fucking gay
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>>560110250
no fucking way
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>>560109650
>>560109303
I did some rook gear solid runs where i just collect upgrade materials, i succeeded in two of those.
All of that to lose it in the next fill run.
It's honestly disheartening, i dont mind the game being hard as fuck but i'm just food for sweats.
Maybe if i play ranked i'll be up against players as bad as me...
Right now i'm pretty sure i'm learning bad stuff when i play, i'm playing more and more ratty, i'm ok at dodging players on the map (except outpost fuck that) and running to the other side of gunshots but it's a tad boring.
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>>560110234
Shooting it or having a jammer bricks it. It's by far at it's most dangerous if it gets tossed at you real close, because there's very little time to react to it.
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>>560110274
You're killing this game

You people are so fucking stupid, at least buy 5 copies so Bungie can make some money
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>>560110250
I don't think that's true
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>>560110234
>defend yourself from the spider
You can shoot it.
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>>560110234
shoot it a couple of times
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>>560109303
>>560110332

1. Quite early on you unlock the ability to get free heals and shieldkits daily from the factions

2. Anon honestly its a skill issue, you're playing wrong if you're losing that much. Either you're wayyyy too aggressive, poor situational awareness or something. Its quite easy to go some rounds and fight nobody except some UESC if you play quietly.

Revaluate how you play, how you move around the map, how and when you move etc.
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>>560110274
Based, it's a rape or be raped game.
Thanks bungie!
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>>560110368
Griefing, ratting and overall acting like a subhuman is literally, unironically, the whole point of the extraction shooter genre.
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>>560110536
agree, I'm pretty shit against other players but I have shitloads of faction rewards unclaimed and my vault is full. Sometimes from a free kit run I just keep everything and go again for a few runs. Playing the server slam probably helped learn to play.
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>>560109553
marathon won this award

which is no surprise, the cinematic is one of the best trailers of all time, and completely clears the other nominations
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>>560110604
as long as you buy multiple copies for the people you make uninstall

Marathon and Bungie can still succeed
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>>560110592
its extra fun to kill runners as a rook knowing that if I die I lose nothing but if they die they lose real items
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I don't even loot people I kill
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>>560110604
there's been a couple of times where i come across another runner, they could have opened fire but they just run away, and I do the same. But its so rare, because of course if you give people half a second they will be able to kill you.
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>Gear based matchmaking
When you get matched with teammates that have gear, close to the value of yours. You will complain that their K/D ratio is too low. You got 6 kills, they got 2 kills each, and you guys lost.

Gear based matchmaking is not going to be enough for you. You will want the enemy team to have a low KD, like your teammates. But the enemy team will get 10 kills each. Three times more kills, than your teammates, with gear similar to yours.
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>>560105510
they like anything that lets them be audibly obnoxious while being unemployed
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>>560109913
Sekiguchi Genetics
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Sexoguchi
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>>560110604
that's literally the gameplay
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>>560111141
you're telling ME that I need to have that WORM in me??
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>>560110914
>um if this obvious issue is fixed then you'll just complain about something else!
Please stop being retarded. The problem is that it doesn't matter how good/bad my team is, if I am dropping in with a full blue loadout and they're two freekits we fundamentally have different goals and approaches we want to take which are at direct odds with each other.
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'guchi gang
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>>560111257
Let me tell you a story about a game called dungeonborne which died in like 2 weeks because of gbmm
>introduce gbmm
>all sweats wear their purples and legendaries
>realize they have to fight other sweats
>they downgrade to greens and still stomp other players because they're 10 times better and more coordinated
>no one wants to play anything than green lobbies
>green item prices go through the roof
>now casual players can't even do green lobbies cause they can't afford it and they still get stomped by sweats
never ever introduce gbmm
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Arc has aggression matchmaking which is easy to abuse, and get into PvE focused lobbies. I only killed people in PvE lobbies, all day, every day.
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>>560111495
The thing is I'm not even asking for full on gear based matchmaking, I'm asking for people WITHIN a team to be vaguely balanced.
The system as is now is also just worse than that and is one of the largest threats to the game. It straight up eliminates the possibility of taking anything higher than green value into fill queue. It's just throwing it away.
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how are u guys even talking about matchmaking systems it’s hard enough to get matches on ps5.
is pc doing that much better?
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>>560111854
enable crossplay
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So how tf are you supposed to do this traxus quest? Commander spawns on the other side of the map and you have to sprint all the way across the data wall/hauler. Tried 5 times, every time I get killed by either some camping faggot in the south building or someone on the way who hears me sprinting
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>>560111854
PC/console crossplay is on by default for all platforms so idk what you mean. Matches have been easy to find for me and most people I've talked to.
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I will now go free kit in trios, and shoot a single bullet in the air every 5 seconds, right next to my teammates.
I will not shoot enemy players.
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>>560111854
What region are you? Most of the players are concentrated in NA. If you’re from Asia, get fucked
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>>560103276
>Arc Raiders designed a game that revealed a surprising undercurrent of gamer wholesomeness
https://files.catbox.moe/qs4ghj.mp4
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>>560111994
make sure to shoot every robot you come across
do NOT use the knife
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>>560111879
iirc the timer just tells you when the commander spawns, you can take your time getting there.
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>>560112036
Game is pretty lively in OCE and I've heard there's a surprising amount of Asian players. EU vs NA peak is also more EU sided than most games.
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>>560112064
>>Arc Raiders designed a game that revealed a surprising undercurrent of gamer wholesomeness
https://streamable.com/c9o4ss
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>>560112036
asia, well it’s fucked then. i wasn’t having much fun anyway. what a fucking waste of time
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>>560112181
Oh well shit, I thought I had to find and kill him in that time window. Didn't get to that point yet. TY
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>>560112062
can i see her penis
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>>560112064
>>560112240
>we're wholesome and kind unless you play in a way we don't like
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>>560112503
Arcbabs are something else
https://files.catbox.moe/56h6ro.mp4
I really wish people talked more in solo in marathon cause shit like this is what i miss a lot from playing arc pvp
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having 3 big arch meals doordashed to me while i play marathon

so hows your day going?
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>>560111879
Don't do it in the first ~10m of the lobby and be smart about where you're going to sprint. You want to be sprinting where people aren't going to be or you'll be able to see them first anyway. You do have plenty of time and need to walk to regen anyway. If you're sprinting in the red parts of this route for example there's no real way someone's going to be there to hear you sprinting.

Also desu it was easier to do in trios I think.
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>>560112694
morel ike playing arch raiders haha
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>>560112687
Nobody talks because the ttk is so low and the economy is more punishing which creates a lot more incentive for the silent ambush playstyle, also with the new nerfs, most enemies are manageable solo, I do hope Cryo doesn't gatekeep itself from solo players but on the other hand if this is the raid equivalent then it will do so brutally.
>>560112694
The game nearly lost me this morning but now that i've sworn myself to Arachne and total runner death i'm having a lot more fun.
Arachne's namesake has interesting parallels. Themes and such.
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Posted this in a /v/ thread, but didn't get answers, so I'll ask here.
I actually don't get some things about the setting.
1) Marathon 1 happens on UESC Marathon. I thought that the ship was attacked in transit, but there clearly is a well established colony on Tau Ceti IV.
2) Earth experienced a 90 year gap between losing contact with Marathon and receiving Leela's warning. This doesn't make sense for several reasons:
- Assuming no FTL communication, the gap between losing contact due to the alien attack and sending/receiving the warning should have been the same on Earth as it was on Marathon.
- Assuming FTL communication, with the warning being light speed, it should have taken at most 11.9 years to get to Earth, since that's how far away Tau Ceti is.
3) Does humanity have FTL travel in the current game?
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Just managed my first 1v3 as a Rook. They were distracted fighting what looked like endlessly respawning waves of grenadiers at some supply crate event in pinwheel and I just snuck up behind them and dropped a bunch of claymores. I had to retreat before I could finish them because my disguise wore off and the fuckers all had self-revives so I had to kill them again the hard way.

I very nearly received immediate karma when another Rook got the drop on me on the way out but I managed to juke him and make my way out. Later on I found what had to be the same Rook at the extraction point and managed to push him back before dropping a bubble shield to force him to fuck off to the final exfil instead. Most intense run I've had yet.
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>>560110234
You can make distance once it is about to explode, but you have to pay attention otherwise it blasts you.
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>>560110332
Playing this game as if its Quake or UT is not going to help you. And its not CS either.
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>>560113384
I kinda assumed it was Durandals communication that got there first, hence the ftl and biotransference.
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>>560114071
>biotransference
Huh?
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>>560111879
you don't have to beat the timer, that's when the commander will spawn, but is easier to find him if you get there first. It is hard to do on your own, easier in a squad if you can convince them to go all the way to furthest point south and all the way to the north again..
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>>560112062
It is as if someone looked at xenomorph and thought "what if humanoid with cute lips".
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>>560113146
>Nobody talks because the ttk is so low and the economy is more punishing which creates a lot more incentive for the silent ambush playstyle
I mean, the problem I have is that no one begs or talks even in exfil. I've killed countless players in exfil now, I never heard one of them beg me not to kill them or talk back to me as I killed them or executed them.
>>560113384
You're making assumptions that this Marathon follows the same timeline, it doesn't. The implications are that unlike in Marathon 1, the Phfor attacked when UESC Marathon reached Tau Ceti IV, but they didn't wipe out the entirety of the population. They might've wiped out the colony (New Cascadia), but they didn't wipe out the entirety of the population nearby.
Leela doesn't seem to exist. Tycho might not exist (though Arachne seem like a cult to him in a way). You should re-watch the intro cutscene again to re-contextualize it a bit. The information in the cutscene sets a bit of the context, some of which is unreliable like whether or not the actual dates put forward are when they truly actually happened. If Leela DOES exist, the message never made it for a variety of reasons. Durandal's message to Earth was the first contact.
For example, we know that the UESC probably lost contact with the Marathon ship before 2804 despite the intro saying that it was breaking news in 2804 that Marathon had THEN gone out of contact.

2888 is more likely to be when they genuinely did receive the first message from the UESC Marathon since the communication blackout, whether that was in 2794 (when the Pfhor attacked, like in the original Marathon), or whether the 2804 date was true. It was a leaked thing, probably via a whistleblower or via MIDA.
>Does humanity have FTL travel in the current game?
Yes, but also not in the traditional sense. You CAN transfer things though in that sense, that's why you're playing as a Runner. They can send digitized data that quick, not ships.
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>>560113384
I've been trying to work it out but it's a bit of a mess desu. The corp agents talk like this is anold colony but it clearly isnt. Following the Mara 1-2 lore the first colony was destroyed, so this one must have been rebuild by corps using molecular transfer and runners but how did they get 30k people there for a second time who all vanished. The UESC ship that responded to the distress call should know all about the Pfhor since UESC curbstomped them while that ship was in transit.
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>>560114572
Oh right I thought you had a point but you're just mad that they aren't raging so you can clip them nevermind.
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gulping Vandals futa cum by the boatload to heal up
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>>560114572
the opening cinematic suggests contact with Marathon was lost during it's journey, which means everything else could be completely different too
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>>560114572
Today I will remind them that the writers have stated that the story is a reimagining. It’s a fan fiction.
Leela probably exists, you can find a log in the codex talking about marathon having a 3 AI system to prevent a rampancy like Traxus on mars.
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As we keep Marching to our inexorable Victory, I want to remember everybody on where we are standing

M̀¶ò¶r̀¶è¶ H̀¶è¶à¶l̀¶s̀¶
M̀¶ò¶r̀¶è¶ À¶m̀¶m̀¶ò¶
Third Person
Hub
Raise ttk
Remove Text on Textures
Better Character Screen
Emotes
FIX THE UI (already Promised)

ADD ALL THE CONTENT BUNGIE IS ALREADY HOLDING


They already folded on the Ammo and Heals situation, but we need to keep going.
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>>560114745
>but you're just mad that they aren't raging so you can clip them nevermind
I'm not going to lie to you, it IS fun to hear people get upset and mad that you've killed them. If they're taking this video game that seriously then they get what they deserve, but the fact that no one begs or talks to me when they're right about to exfil where it would maybe 1/10 times probably save them if they happened across someone who felt bad?
Like, it doesn't really help the outlook of the game. No one fucking talks in Marathon. My trios don't talk with me, no one in solos even when I'm not killing them talk. I get WHY, I know why players don't, but there's situations where talking even just to fuck ME over while I loot their corpse or run up to execute them might create a problem for me, but they never do.
>>560114919
The reveal cinematic has the Pfhor attack take place in the same year as Marathon 1 which is 2794, you can cleatly see in that cinematic that people were already settled on Tau Ceti IV as they also got bombed/struck by the debris raining down from the ship.
They were already at Tau Ceti IV by 2794, the UESC either lost contact before they settled (unlikely), in 2794 (more likely), or in 2804 (likely, but it seems more like they'd be doing damage control). The UESC in the codex have some pretty heinous shit going on, they're basically the only guys apart from Traxus who have a complete monopoly on information on space travel and have a massive force and influence. Traxus doesn't even trust them, which is why they're hiring you out while they're also working with the UESC officially.
>>560115346
Yea, they might use some similar dates as a foundation, but clearly this isn't the same timeline and some of the core events have been changed up completely. I don't blame people for not being able to piece it together though, because the game immediately begins with feeding you a ton of likely bullshit information.
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>>560115495
None of that matters if there's no skill based matchmaking.
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>>560111879
It’s really funny how many people’s assumption, including mine, seemed to be that you have 4 minutes to get there and kill the commander, not that it’s 4 minutes until the commander even spawns. The game finds every opportunity to be unintuitive
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>>560115658
its not so bad now but the first day where everyone needed to get to flight control was a fucking bloodbath
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>>560115663
I can add it to the Unraped list
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>>560115495
>ADD ALL THE CONTENT BUNGIE IS ALREADY HOLDING

>add it all now
>gaymers consoom within hours
>>umm new content when? dead game?
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>>560115495
why do you fuckers want to raise the ttk? so gearqueers can shitstomp with 0 regard? so rook is mega-useless and any sort of 1 vs 1+n is impossible? WAO!!
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>>560115663
I don’t know if even skill based matchmaking will help. They need to add Arc’s aggression based matchmaking and they needed to add it yesterday.
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>>560113384
>I thought that the ship was attacked in transit
It wasn't, even in Marathon 1. You are just in orbit around the colony. The colony is attacked somewhat at the same time but isn't the Pfhor's primary focus. Near the end Leela says that 9 Battleroids (the player is implied to be the 10th) were hiding amongst the population and repelled the invaders.
Then the pfhor came back and glassed the colony after the end of Marathon 1. Which leaves wtf this is and what is happening as some bizarre question.

I really find the storytelling here incredibly frustrating because they want it to be all pieced together mystery shit but they haven't established a baseline that lets you engage with it on that level.
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>>560115951
The problem is it takes longer to say "hey friendly" and have it register to the other nigga's brain while you could simply shoot him and take his shit.
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>>560116005
Its a reboot, not a follow-up. Alternate timeline.
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>>560113384
By the original timeline there had been a colony on Tau Ceti for a while, and the original game's Pfhor attack is marked as 2794 after the colony ship arrived 2773.

NuMarathon's intro flashes to 2773 which seems to keep that a relevant date, 2794 is still a time of great badness by the reveal cinematic, and 2804 is the point that the intro seems to associate with loss of contact.
Meanwhile the ARG response documents are dated 2795, indicating that the first sign of trouble the UESC saw was that the FTL traffic had ceased and that the colonists were well beyond the point where they should've been able to repair them had there been a normal accident.
The 2804 contact loss then sounds weird, but it could be reasonably explained as the last observable significant identifiable radio traffic from Tau Ceti going dead since it'd take about 12 years to cross the 12 lightyears to Sol.

That, though, makes Leela's ninety-year delayed warning seem even more absurd unless she was trying to Cole Protocol it and bounce the warning around instead of aiming it straight at Sol, but who knows. Reboots are fucky.
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>>560114304
Ty, just did it alone. Triage's Q helps a lot
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Holy shit this in a single run stuff needs to be removed.
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>>560116636
Still orders of magintude easier than most of Jaegers quests
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just gave away 2 full blue loadouts for free because I tried actually using my worthless abilities instead of just shooting my gun as if this game is anything but gay tarkov
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>>560114730
>The corp agents talk like this is anold colony but it clearly isnt

2974
>phfor attack the ship + colony
>they don't kill everyone
>either they lose contact at this point with the UESC or they have restrictions on it (aka, no direct line, just signs that they are alive)
2974 - 2812
>between this point, the survivors of the initial attack reinhabit new cascadia
>they may have been either genuine survivors or they were awakened from cryo later on
>people are starting to look into the anomaly and they start seeing a bunch of weird shit/hearing weird shit (including family or mysterious beings)
>things aren't awful but they aren't amazing either
2812
>food shortages and a fungal infection (either from bioresearch/research or left over alien tech/biological substances) strike the colony
>cause a lot of death and probably instablility
>things are going downhill quickly for the remaining survivors
2827
>anomaly fucking murdered everyone remaining in the colony most likely
>UESC says it doesnt know what happened
2888
>UESC receives a message from the UESC Marathon, most likely Durandal
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>>560117305
>tarkov is somehow not gay
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>I cant make progress.
>They want to resett in 2 and a halth months

This game will probaly die on resett, no fucking way will i grind this shit twice.
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>>560117430
>no fucking way will i grind this shit twice.
Yeah I'm playing other games and play Marathon from time to time and they want me to regrind all these shitty quests and replay on the shitty first two maps before playing on Outpost? Fuck that.
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>kill a tick
>take the tick sample
>go to one side of the map
>synthesize the tick sample
>take the sample to the other side of the map
>make sure you brought a cardio kick
>now combine them and take the drug
>okay now run around one of the most dangerous maps where you can get easily sniped
>while you're on fire and overheating
>literally visit almost every single POI
>oh and make sure to extract too or it won't count
I'm so sick of this sekiguchi bullshit
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Not even Tarkov, which is muh hardcore gamer for real gamers, has wipes anymore. That retarded shit was only because the game was in alpha. Why did Bungie see that and think that wipes were integral to the extraction shooter genre?
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Should I buy Marathon? I'm semi employed and play videogames 1-2 hours a day

I absolutely hate Tarkov due to how unrealistic the game is with damage and how you need to grind for mithril bullets to penetrate someone with fantasy stalinium armor.

I enjoyed Hunt because even your starter/scav character's weapons was viable and the atmosphere was great.

I didn't like Apex due to how much movement there was.
I enjoyed PUBG when it came out.
Liked Warzone in 2020, didn't care for the rest of it

I liked Arc for it's world and PvE elements although PvP was kind of lacking and
>3rd person
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>>560117430
oh yea thats why I havent bought yet, that reset gimmick is so stupid
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>>560117656
>I'm semi employed and play videogames 1-2 hours a day
No, you're going to fall behin a whole lot honestly.
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>>560117656
>play videogames 1-2 hours a day
No because it will reset your progress in 2 months, so by the time you finally get in a good spot, WHOOPS BYE BYE PROGRESS! HERE DO THESE SHITTY FETCH QUESTS AGAIN!
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>>560117785
>>560117764

Thanks lads.
I'm kind of surprised Bungie of all studios went down the hardcore Tarkov audience route.
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>>560117656
>Should I buy Marathon
Lolno
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>>560117656
>Should I buy Marathon?

Not the thread to ask, these generals have been taken over by obsessed arc babies who despise the game.
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You guys need to stfu shitposting about
>waaah marathon is dead
>posting dumbass charts that mean nothing

The Marathon Tournament is tomorrow

Marathon Tau Ceti Cup is the first official esports tournament for Bungie’s game Marathon, taking place on Saturday, March 14, 2026.

Time: 11:00 AM PT (2:00 PM ET) to 4:00 PM PT (7:00 PM ET).
Format: A creator-focused competition featuring six teams of popular streamers and content creators battling on the planet Tau Ceti IV.
Objective: Teams earn favor for factions (like MIDA and Arachne) by eliminating high-value targets, defeating opponents, and surviving.
Prizes: The winning team receives custom Marathon jackets designed by Australian cosplayer Vamprea, plus rewards for their community.
Twitch Drops: Viewers can earn exclusive Angry Bunny-themed rewards by watching any competitor’s stream:
Profile Emblem (1 hour of watch time)
Profile Background (2 hours)
Weapon Sticker (3 hours)
Requirements: Link Bungie.net and Twitch accounts, watch a stream in the Twitch Directory with Drops enabled during the event window.
The event will be cast by IceManIsaac and Activee, and streams will be available across the participating creators’ Twitch channels.
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Why don't UESC bots take heat cascade damage?
Why does my rook take heat cascade damage?
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>>560118298
I cant wait for Shroud to win a cool Jacket!
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total resets every 3 months is kinda nuts, no? especially this wipe as we dont even have the last map for a quarter of it
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>>560118342
Rook is off brand and made of scraps
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>>560118004
>hardcore Tarkov audience route.
Tarkov doesn't have wipes. Optional wipes but not forced.
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>>560118456
I'm ok with it if the faction upgrade tracks are all changed up and new contracts, but that seems like wishful thinking
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>>560118456
and there's a 10million credit limit btw
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>>560118456
The wipes will be optional would be my guess.
They won't actually be optional because those that wipe will have buffs over those that don't therefore the game will say it's optional but you're just gonna lose in PvP over and over if you don't wipe
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>>560118513
I don't think it's wishful thinking at all, it's pretty obvious that they intend for the game to have an ongoing narrative and most of the story in the game is told through contracts. New contracts every season just makes sense.
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>>560118004
It is a little weird. I almost want to say they have balls for it but the real reason as to why the game is like it is, is because they want this game to be a live-service hit where the game has seasons and a battle pass and purchasable skins, and the grind and the reason to log-in and a bunch of other metric stuff.
They're not doing it for a genuine vision of wanting to be a Tarkov-like realistic shooter that's "for hardcore players", they're doing it because they know the money they can make from being a game that wipes every 3 months and has you keep coming back.
The problem is that this genre already has the aspect of losing progress or items and a constant battle of winning vs losing (with you often losing more than you win).

The combat is fun enough, the shooting is fun enough, the general feeling of it being an extraction shooter with things to do is there, I suppose. I think that the problem stems from it being a Bungie-developed live services with absolutely no compromises like other games in the genre do.
Arc Raiders lets you skip wipes. Tarkov has PvE or singleplayer PvE even if the devs don't like it. Marathon doesn't let you skip wipes nor experience the gameplay loop without engaging with the same live service bullshit that commonly exist with games outside of a genre that is already decently punishing even with a good time investment.

I think by the time the first wipe comes the game will have really lost its audience, unless they're working on re-working it before the wipe is confirmed and locked into place. The game is already kind of being figured out completely basically a week after launch and the only new content is a map that will be harder than anything in the game already, which 60-70% of players may not even reach by the end of the wipe.
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>>560117651
Wipes are a crutch for poor game design and power creep.

It's pretty much the dev saying that the game is unenjoyable at high progression levels and forcefully resets a game to a fun state. This is why you saw Tarkov getting the most play at the beginning of a wipe since that's actually where the most fun is.
I genuinely don't understand why developers do things like this where they know where the fun is and then artificially lock you out of it. Especially after we've seen other titles refine and fix the formula for these types of games.
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>see maybe 1 person every few runs
>get my first do a load of shit in one run contract
>now can't stop finding people when all I want to do is hack a few terminals
Dogshit.
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>>560117656
Marathon avoids most of your problems with other games. Gear matters but it doesn't change your core DPS and the PvP is a lot better than something like ARC.
Gameflow is generally cautious with a high emphasis on positioning and awareness.
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>>560118840
Likely they match people with similar contracts to try and emphasize pvp
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>>560117651
Tarkov removing wipes is a retarded mistake that they only changed because they're cashing out.
The act of progression is fundamentally an important part of an extraction shooter and they simply cannot just go on forever or you get flat and bland shit like going back to Hunt.
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>>560118342
Why can your rook get toxin'd
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>>560118765
Someone here days ago said this but it holds true to this day.
Extraction Shooters are a self-cannibalizing genre in its truest sense.
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>>560117551
i never saw this quest and while reading i tought "this is sekiguchi for sure" lmao
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I just want player housing :)
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hehehehe
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Map modifiers could be a fun feature.
>Infestation: tick nests spawn all over the map instead of just in certain places
>Curfew: increased UESC presence, patrols between PoIs
>Acid rain: match long rain that slowly drains your HP if you don't have any shield left while you are outside
>En passant: every Rook is considered a team member to each other
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>>560119294
I'd do the worst missions known to mankind than do a single mission for Traxus
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>get tired of ratting and play more aggressive
>dying to rats
had enough fun for 40 bucks at least
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>>560119439
as a pvp noob that just runs in guns blazing and always dying, i'm actually having fun being a rat. got two kills in solo, that's a PB and i don't care what anyone says. yeah i used a sniper from high ground, yeah i shot them in the back, idgaf.
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>Trying to play Outpost
>Constantly keep getting queued with someone from Playstation called Flavafav
>Gun rushes to his objective
>Dies
>Disconnects from the session completely
Someone else dies on our team?
>Disconnects from the session completely
Someone tries to take that one route only Vandals, Destroyers and Thiefs can take on the southern starting point where you jump a large gap and sometimes people miss it and die?
>Disconnects from the Session but makes sure to look at the corpses, shake their head and then disconnects

I almost had eight-ish sessions with this motherfucker and even have blocking him I still got him two more times on my team.
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>>560119553
did that for a few days, now I'm tired of it
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>>560119439
>rat problem
>in 2026
Hunt literally solved this over 10 years ago mechanically with their stupid darkvision boss soul gimmick.
It literally wouldn't be hard to get a terminal somewhere that gives some mcguffin that counters ratting
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>>560119325
honestly I want a rook only teams mode
or a "spawn as a rook team" mode
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I still haven't done the outpost sekgen mission lol and now destroyed wing is closed we're right snogered now mum.
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>Watched a single Marathon lore video two weeks
>Non-stop Doompilled videos
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I have 40+ runs under my belt now and I can count on one hand the number of Rooks I've encountered
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Adding onto this, I feel like this is a contribution as to why this game has the belief that it didn't sell well or why people are really turned away.
I'm not going to say this game didn't sell well, I don't know. Most of the evidence of it selling poorly is...questionable with strings attached but its not like Bungie has really said anything or made any statements that blow it out the water.
You can't look at this game with it basically hinging on future content to at some point become a game with a properly outlined story, with a decent number of maps, with a good number of shells/items and not think "is this game going to die out in 2 months because its too barebones and because they've attached themselves to a GaaS business model?" What's in the game now is a fun PvP game but there's a backlog of them nowadays, which are doing well, which have more players than this, even in its own genre.

I don't think wipes are a bad idea but this game desperately needs stability and it needed to come out like it was a fully-fledged $60 Bungie game that had everything ready to go and realistically didn't need to hinge on Cryo coming out to feel confient in itself.
This entire fucking GaaS model is a cancer to this industry. It has genuinely made purchasing and enjoying a videogame a double-edged sword whether you're a later-comer or an early adopter. I truly do not know who wins with these games. The developers do not, the players do not, and often publishers lose a lot of money. Yet, Bungie wants to keep making games like it.
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>>560119196
Toxin is actually like acid. It eats through your shell. Even bots can be toxined.
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>>560119717
I just did it with a freekit collecting the cards in Processing on the first try. Got lucky though since I didn't meet anyone else
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I know they're all in investor ball cupping mode right now trying to project an air of success.

but coming out and saying that the player numbers, despite not being ideal, is stable enough for them to not pull the plug three months down the line would be enough to draw a lot of people in
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>>560119781
I've seen videos like this start coming out 1 hour after the server slam went live.
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>>560120176
Yeah honestly. It's so hard to convince people the game is worth buying with this sword hanging over it, even though it's unlikely they're actually about to just kill it and fuck over any future sony projects in a similar way.
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>>560119842
we're here, watching you
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>>560119842
I've noticed this too. I never see rooks in the wild but when I play as one I always run into another. We both teabag and go separate ways. Once I ran into two of them that partnered up and we made our own trio
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To fulfill this quest do you need to do a shitton of runs?
Finally got to North Relay without dying (where the paradox circuits are supposedly found) and not a single item.
idk if I can be bothered to do this fetch shit every season
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>>560119897
Live service games are low stakes and (potentially) high reward. You can become a fortnite/cod like that prints a gorilion shekels every season or you become an irrelevant nobody that everyone abandons in a year see battlefield, overwatch, etc. If it doesn't do well you can slowly sunset it or drip feed low effort content as a life support measure.
Then again there's also the philosophy behind gacha games like Genshin which relies on a few ultra whales to prop up revenue. This COULD work with this type of extraction shooter genre since the players tend to be a bit more diehard.

There are games that do battlepasses well, arc/helldivers has a really fair battlepass system and they have very healthy playerbases so a good live service game can work but given how big Bungie is I'm sure they're more fiscally motivated than smaller studios.
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>>560120521
Is that a random one? That's pretty fucked, and will take you quite a few runs. Trying to force it is probably a terrible idea.
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>>560120521
If it doesn't say "in a single run" then yes. I treat these contracts as a passive and focus more on staying alive or helping teammates finish their priority contracts first
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Is bungie and sony desperate enough to coomify their girls with paid skins like some korean slop?
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>>560120697
>Is that a random one?
Nah some sekgen main quest.
>>560120793
alright ty
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>>560120996
All the greats do it.
fortnight, cod, overwatch, etc.
It's free real estate baby
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>>560121083
>Nah some sekgen main quest.
God damn it why is everything SekGen such aids
That can't be accidental
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>go to (location) for (very rare drop) that your 2 squadmates will be sniffing out and stealing from you if you look in the wrong 1 of 4 containers in the region. also hope you brought thief
yea and this progress is wiping in 3 months? yea, naw
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They're totally gonna patch that thief grapple slide tech thing lmao.
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Marathon
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>>560121204
they sacrificed like 1m chud sales already. fucking IDIOTS
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>>560121204
You forgot rivals. Those chinks aren't even discreet about it
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>>560121260
I have never had a teammate that wouldn't share quest loot after being like "hey I need some of these if you find any"
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>>560119781
>>560120293
at this point in our journey towards total corporate control, a lot of these might be genuine AI videos made by bungie competitors kek. my argument is this:
>its not illegal
>its not expensive
this word is nuts now. who the fuck knows
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>>560121386
quest loot is shared on exfil, im talking about the late stage upgrade salvage. you wont even know if they found any
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the sound changes are kinda crazy
i want to do rook runs for upgrade loot but i keep getting distracted by gunfights from across the map and decide to fuck with people instead
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>>560121204
>fortnight
I wish, those mf never did skin with actual titties.
At best you get wide hips and some(not too much) ass. The rest is for pedos and furries.
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>nobody mentions wipes for days
>suddenly the thread is 90% focused on "Guys there's gonna be wipes eventually so um every quest is impossible!"
The posts in this thread are so fucking blatantly artificial holy fuck lmao
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>>560121438
>>560121386
and this is stuff everyone needs, dude. im certain you havent even seen half the purple rarity items, and you need buckets of them
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>>560121260
When I did the contract to find green rods it counted rods my teammates picked up
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>>560121497
the way you synthesize information makes you a victim. i hope you grow out of it one day
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>>560118298
Go hell, shill.
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>>560121508
yea sorry i was talking about salvage for your upgrades. you will see what i mean eventually. it's brutal
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>>560112464
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>>560121580
I'm not a victim I just refuse to believe there are this many people so absurdly retarded they cannot see why wipes in an extraction shooter are a good thing
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This game is too hard to have randoms continue to get waxed in it it'll die in a month. Retarded faggots who cant get 1 bot kill in dire marsh are not going to keep playing this game against geared people
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>>560121497
The threads are borderline unusual because of these faggots and their constant brigading. I guess that's what they're after though so I suppose they're winning.
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>>560120176
I'd buy the game right now if they had any sort of confirmation that the game was gonna last more than 6 months, but alas, they're radio-silent.
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>>560121678
wipes are a good thing. but there are many ways to do it. and many ways to do progress between each wipe.
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>>560121501
So now it's just a bad thing that loot is valuable and worth getting?
What kind of mental illness is this?
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>>560121673
>tits spilling over the armor
nice
>futa
and instantly not interested
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>>560121729
unusable* but I guess it's pretty unusual behaviour too
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>>560121678
>see why wipes in an extraction shooter are a good thing
The devs not being able to develop a proper endgame is not a good thing. They throw their hands up in the air and make you go on the hamster wheel again. With no other choice. That is not a good thing. Tarkov moved away from it because even Nigreta realized people ultimately don't like having their time wasted.
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why didn't bungie just make a vandal skin that gives her a giant ass to entice people to buy the battle pass?
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>>560121678
Wipes are a good thing in the same way morning after pills are a good thing.
It's a sign you made a mistake earlier in the process and are effectively doing damage control
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>just did my first trios run
>feel some sense of having fun
>went in with a free kit
>exfiled
>found I stole two premium passes as triage
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>>560120521
it counts if your teammates exfill with them too, so just doing runs with no goal in mind is probably better here
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>>560121817
if that's all you can work out of my replies you don't stand a chance
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>>560121968
There is no such thing as "a proper endgame". The point of these games is that you want to get items and get out with them because that lets you progress. Having that be finished kills the point of the game. Having some worthless, separate end-game grind like a fucking MMO is also just throwing away the majority of the game's design after the first two months, like a god damn MMO. There is no magic solution out there waiting to be found that solves this problem. Loot based extraction shooters need wipes.
>Tarkov moved away from it because
Tarkov moved away from it because they're cashing out. Wipes were the entire reason that game held a playerbase for so many years.
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>>560111994
Lmao so edgy.xXx. don't forget to post it on le ebin 4chin bro
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>>560122269
It was what you were saying, even if you don't recognize it yourself.
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>>560111879
Jumping and sprinting with a knife makes less noise I think
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>>560122313
>There is no magic solution out there waiting to be found that solves this problem.
Yes there is, optional wipes. So people who don't game 8 hours a day can wipe if they want to go on their hamster wheel and those that play one hour a day will actually feel like there is a point to playing the game.
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>>560121260
people don't realize how fucking miserable the lategame upgrades/quests are yet but it's going to be a huge complaint in a week or two. it's so bad it genuinely makes me wonder if bungie playtested this game beyond the intro
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>>560116062
Lol I had one run where I hey friendly after I got downed and someone gave me a self revive and walked away
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>>560122430
only if you ignore everything i said. have you played tarkov?
imagine tarkov was designed around playing in a squad with randoms. now imagine you needed like 43 FIR ledex.
and now IMAGINE that your random teamates have loot radar and you dont (or maybe you do, too)
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>>560122691
how do you give someone a self-revive? can you pick up items while downed?
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got my first pvp kill ever and it was just surprising some guy from around a corner with a knife M2 into M1. some assassin using longshot. then i tried it on another guy and it didnt work even though i hit him twice the same way...
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How do you open the voice lines menu?
I can't find it in the settings.
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>>560122649
But people won't push that button because there's no reason to and will actively lock themselves out of what would be more fun. This isn't even a "you don't know whats best 4 u!!!!" argument; it being self-inflicted changes the psychology around a system like this a lot. It just being the flow of the game to keep doing missions works. Asking a player to willingly throw away all their progress doesn't.

Also given your language I am 100% certain you're one of the faggots that also complains about "sweats farming him" and optional wipes does nothing but make that more of a problem.
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>>560122665
the barters, upgrades, and rarity of some of the salvage makes me think that nothing's going to make sense until we see the last map + they introduce whatever mechanic they havent finished yet... otherwise, yea... serious rebalancing
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>>560122917
if ranked was tied to wipes, you dont think people would choose wipe?
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>>560122720
Ledx is more in line with gold salvage in rarity and you need similar amounts as you need Ledx.
>and now IMAGINE that your random teamates have loot radar and you dont (or maybe you do, too)
You're not finding purple salvage in just random arbitrary chests with any rarity, anon.
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Now, I admire Cassius Clay, I do. But you really need to be ‘switched on’ all times in this game with very little downtime, if I had to choose one word to describe Marathon it would be ‘exhausting’. It’s extremely enjoyable, but at the same time it’s not the most comfortable game I’ve played. We shall see.
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>>560122917
>But people won't push that button because there's no reason to and will actively lock themselves out of what would be more fun.
Yes they will, they wipe in Tarkov, they wipe in Arc. The sweats will wipe, give them a reason to. I'm sure something as simple as more vault space will be good enough for the sweats. You're effectively fucking over your game for no good reason.
>Also given your language I am 100% certain you're one of the faggots that also complains about "sweats farming him" and optional wipes does nothing but make that more of a problem.
No I don't and now you're resorting to strawmen to fight against because you don't have a good reason as to why optional wipes won't work. It has been shown to work in other games. I get owned a lot but that is not my issue you retard, the issue is that I don't want to be forced to do these shitty quests again and have to replay the first two shitty maps again before I can unlock Outpost.
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the only level of fun comparable to team wiping as rook is drone striking someone as thief
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>>560123342
>The sweats will
This isn't about "the sweats", it's about the people playing the game. All of them. Your entire argument is predicated on a retarded imagined attempt about how THEY are bad and evil and just want to grind eternally but YOU are cool and good and don't need that.
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>>560123424
Boost into heavy knife for a kill as demolisher hits the same note.
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>>560122828
You must be able to because I remember getting back up again
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They need to make the pve harder or the maps more oppressive because Bungie just seems to incentivize pvp as the most valuable skill over everything else.
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>>560123158
i think you need ~30** gold salvage to finish your upgrades. and you have to do this in like 2 months if you want to reap the rewards
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>>560122914
For me it's hold MB3 and then swipe a direction
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>>560123686
Does destroyer get boosts to melee or physical attacks or something? I only ever played thief.
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i voice chatted in solo and the other guy didnt kill me and we did our missions and left :) i got killed by a swarm of npcs trying to leave through a guarded exfil though
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>>560123829
the should at least make vault and shell upgrades from factions permanent instead of wiping em this way you actually have an excuse to regrind some of the factions and still get rewarded
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>>560124032
They have slightly higher base melee damage and I think they get some cores with melee boosts
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does taking your knife out actually make you run faster or is this an urban myth based on it working that way in other games
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>>560123542
>Your entire argument is predicated on a retarded imagined attempt about how THEY are bad and evil and just want to grind eternally but YOU are cool and good and don't need that.
No.
> I get owned a lot but that is not my issue you retard, the issue is that I don't want to be forced to do these shitty quests again and have to replay the first two shitty maps again before I can unlock Outpost.
Again, I used sweats to appeal to your strawman about how the problem of sweats owning noobs is the issue. Those sweats would wipe because theyve beaten the game, they would wipe even without incentives. The other players, they have not even reached the endgame or gotten good gear because they are not at the level of the good player. By the time they do reach endgame, they can choose to wipe if they so please. All youre doing by forcing wipes is driving almost everyone away except for the hardcore player who can easily get to endgame, which is fine if you dont care about this game living past a year.
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>>560122076
whaaaaaaaaaa?!?
thats for the battle pass?
and it's an ingame item?
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>>560124103
You know it's very easy to find out the answer to this yourself if you just take your knife out and walk around for a second. It's not exactly subtle.
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>>560123790
its the exact same problem as Arc Raiders, the ‘vE’ element of the PvPvE needs to be something you are constantly engaged in, not something that’s just there as window dressing while you search for the next deathmatch encounter

there needs to be more roaming encounters, increased cannon fodder and just more enemy types in general, otherwise just fucking remove them and have a quad kill announcer booming over the lobby chat ffs
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>All the people, in here, on Reddit, and elsewhere who don't know Bungie and how they balance their games from what they've done to Destiny
Marathon is basically Gambit with extra steps
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>>560124103
yea weapons have weight that affects your speed. there are attachments that modify weapon weight. and you can assume knife is probably the lightest
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>>560122076
what do you mean you stole them? what does that item even do?
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>>560124290
We know what Destiny is. It's a bad casual game.
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>>560124290
pretty much, at least with gambit it's fun
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>>560117656
I'd say absolutely. The low tier pvp is still a lot of fun and once you get the ball rolling on contracts, even doing the repeatable ones keeps you swimming in green gear. It's more than enough to keep you topped up, and you can do Rook (scav) runs whenever to stock back up if you truly run dry. There's a lot of padding to keep you on your feet, so as long as you throw that gear fear away you'll do just fine. It's a really fun game, probably the best extraction game on the market right now, only competition being ARC.
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>>560124229
Nice try, I know you're waiting around a corner to ambush me while I'm making a ton of noise with my gun down
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>>560124283
yeah they realy gotta make it like its an mmo where theres camps like around a lot of fuckin segments of a map. too much emptiness. going on
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>>560117656
Depends.
Are you in the top10% of exfil shooters?
Yes.
No?
Dont even bother.
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>>560124103
Yes. Try it out with an lmg and then a knife
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>>560124283
That won't work. Guess what people will do? They will simply ignore the vE until some other idiot tries to engage with it. We see this with Dark and Darker which has the most vE out there and the most optimal solution to the numerous and hard enemies, ignore them and run past them.
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>>560124283
could you give a more specific example of the pve aspect?
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it is of my humble opinion that they need to reduce the number of players/teams on each map, even just one less team in trios, practically tripping over each others cocks in most of my runs
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An easy way to fix these complaints is letting you lock/weld doors :)
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>>560121968
>>560122009
Wipes keep an extraction shooter fresh. Half of the fun of these games is the "gearing up" part where you have to go back to basics and get excited about a blue. The entire appeal is "go in, get good shit, get out". Once you have an entire stash of "good shit" there's literally no more incentive. Much like MMOs where once you get BiS gear... Somehow the players expect the game to still be fun.l and have meaningful stuff to do. Grats bro, you beat the game.

Wipes make it so you get to start fresh again and on an even playing field. It's actually quite a good thing for lesser skilled players, because you get more efficient at the wipe every time. Leagues are very popular in games like PoE, and I see no reason why a progression heavy game like Marathon would be any different.
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>>560124848
Honestly an escalating alarm element would be nice rather than just periodic reinforcement drops
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>>560124945
best I can offer is the opportunity to weld your bussy so I can only use your mouth
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>>560124290
i dont know what gambit is
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Where's my hideout ONI!?!?!?
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>>560124103
also bunnyhopping is faster than sprinting
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>>560125095
Get hype for the Tournament!
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>its another triage doesn't heal the team episode
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>>560124950
for what its worth people play like 2k+ hours past having the best gear in monster hunter. that is-- it doesnt have to be a forever grind, but i wouldnt expect anything else either
there's also a matter of partial wipes, optional wipes, etc.
and the timeframe and difficulty. all this stuff matters. im doubting things as is, but we also know the game is going to change quite a bit
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>>560114572
Erm actually its specified that the runner conciousness are housed in a ship in orbit, thats why they need to extract in a certain time because thats the only time when the conciousness ship is in geosynchronous orbit and runners cannot survive in shells on tau ceti for an extended ammount of time
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>>560124848
i think every POI needs something unique going on with it. give it a puzzle, a certain enemy type, a certain event etc

i dunno just an idea to counter-act third partying trap nonsense is like, create a dome over the area if it involves killin a ton of enemies before your loot box comes out to reward you.
need a poe that involves a puzzle that is randomized how to complete it. allah arc raiders queen
its gay and not hardcore extraction shooter but honestly the game needs something going on for it to make it interesting.

i think hauler is probably the most iconic place to me so far. i haven't done dire marsh enough because its ugly as fuck to do, and i haven't done outpost because im scared
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I thought this was supposed to be THE PVP GAME. Went trios last night 5 times, ran into an enemy team once. What the fuck is up with that? Are there only two other teams in a lobby?
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>>560124950
The first wipe will lose 80% of the playerbase me included im not gonna rerank this shit up
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>>560125301
>>560124920
god i love this stupid fucking general
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>>560125245
at least monster hunter has like 11-14 weapons to fuck aruond with and build variety.
this game doesn't allow that because oops you're dead and all your shits gone. i mean your shotgun/sniper because thats the meta
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>>560125301
What map? I only encountered no pvp on perimeter
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>>560125203
sorry for you man, i've only ever had perma heal bot triages.
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>>560125404
Dire Marsh
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i like the game but i genuinely dont want to play until they revert the gunshot noise change desu
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>>560125284
they'd have to kill the immersion to prevent me from disrupting your pve.
the game could have a pvp phase and a pve phase... like, instanced with your team once you exfil. but that doesnt work with the current lore/setting. not without some work
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>>560125464
I'd love to feel that but im on comms and text chat going hey bro you can send those drones out to multiple triages now who just sit there in autistic silence
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>>560124920
maybe don't B-line to hauler with guns blazing on spawn.
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>>560125484
Maybe everyone killed each other in the first five minutes on algae ponds, it's happened to me before
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>>560125552
they could simply just have an area go on full lockdown and seal all the doors you cant leave until the enemies are dead, and no one can come in. give it a timer so people cant just perpetually camp it

since i haven't played outpost im sure we got something goin on like that, minus the sealed door shit
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The reason why Perimeter works is because it has data wall
Outpost works because much of the map is blocked off and a ton of UESC
What does Dire Marsh have for it?
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Why are there so many anti pvp trannies on /v/? Even in the game I encounter people begging for their life and I kill them anyways. Grow balls.
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>>560125731
anna moly
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I take back all the bad shit I said about the game, got into the pinwheel with a grey shields team, had to get them shields first but we won. Last minute exfil.

The game does have a good onboarding once you do more nucaloric contracts. Just get over gear fear, just gamble responsibly your gear and if one doesn't pan out be ready to exfil alone. Good game honestly, my favorite PVP right now
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The great thing about them increasing the distance you can hear gunfire is that it's actually kind of unnerving when you haven't heard gunfire in 5+ minutes.
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>>560125731
Flat lowland so I can snipe runners from across the map from quarantine/algae ponds
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If this was nsfw defeat single player extraction shooter with pregnancy bungie would be saved.
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Yay! it's sekiguchi free day for me!
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>>560125778
Most of /v/ are uncs who only play 'comfy' singleplayer games and gachas due to their neurons having been depolarized from constant drinking and fapping
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Squad Fill list from order to you're going to probably succeed to you'll probably die really quick
>Everyone has mics. few words are said.
>no mics at all but competent
>yappy as fuck
>no mics everyone freekits
>they dont move from spawn for 2-3 minutes
the last one can probably be a benefit but most of the time its people fuckin with settings or something
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>>560121673
hot...
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>>560125938
Volt weapon kit? Nice.
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Why do the uesc tentacle rape you when you go down
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>>560124950
>Half of the fun of these games is the "gearing up" part where you have to go back to basics and get excited about a blue
i agree except marathon's progression is heavily tied to annoying fucking quests. i'm fine with having to gear up every 3 months, i'm not fine with having to redo all the "in a single run take 80 fall damage in pinwheel and then exfil" priority contracts
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>>560126053
To prevent you from ez self reviving
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im finding it hard to believe that from all the shit i've helped kill, there wasn't a single shield to hand me as a sponsor kit while my teammates dont need one
shields cant be that rare to loot
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>>560126058
Priority contracts don't reset apparently
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>>560125808
ever do a last minute exfil? i got carried by a team once and i was sweating at the 5 minute mark. then when the countdown reached 0 there's an extra minute with one exfil left.
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>>560125720
It's a fairly short window but the hacking to get into the Pinwheel via the normal entrance is kind of like that. Bots come at you from one narrow hallway, and while it's not a hard block, there's no real sightlines for an enemy crew to third party without also pissing off all the UESC.

>>560125731
Dire Marsh is kind of divided into East/West, Quarantine and Maintenance are so divided by Algae Ponds and the essentially no-man's land of marsh surrounding AI Uplink that moving there is a significant risk of either
>death by close combat
>death by sniper
I wish they would put a tunnel or something from northern maintenance that exits into anomaly.
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>>560126105
they do, it's only the "introducing: '[faction]" quests that don't reset
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>>560126187
Okay that's kinda gay then
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The ‘PVP AT ANY COST GOGOGO’ sisters are going to kill this game, I don’t even think Bungo expected as much bloodshed, every match I hear gunfire within the first minute, just reduce the map sizes, triple the team count and call it a day, this is the COD of extraction shooters
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>>560126031
>>560126031
>Volt weapon kit? Nice.
yeah!
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>>560126058
I don't know how people don't like these quests. It gives you something to do in the game, as a challenge, that isn't just "hit up loot spot and die or win and get out"
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>>560126074
Ok but why not stomp me to death why suck me dry with your sexy tentacles
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Is the audio buff actually bad? I haven't tried it yet but I can see it being nice for someone who wants to avoid people as much as possible
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>>560126212
Well the 'problem' is, there's 0 challenge on the map after the opposing teams are gone or dead outside of the occasional rook so of course you would want to beeline the enemy teams, it's logical
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>>560126283
Some of them do like the ghosts
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>>560124290
Explain.
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If the maps were apex legend sized with 60 players and thus was a br with extra steps it would be better
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>>560121673
is there a non futa version?
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>>560126137
the other team just waits and then comes in to rape (has happened multiple times)
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how can I play extraction irl?
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>>560126408
No
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>>560126448
there should be some sort of bosnia scenario in the next year or two
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>>560126448
Go to a house party and steal as much shit as you can before your buddy extracts you via his shitbox honda
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Do solo's get put in a game with trios?
I plan to play alone, should i get it?
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>>560126248
because most people are filling and the odds of someone having the same quest as you are low, so you're at the mercy of two randoms. the early quests aren't that bad because the objectives are easy enough that people are usually down to help out but the lategame quests are so tedious no one is going to willingly help you with them
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>>560126525
gaza?
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>>560126361
well Bungie need to create a problem that exists or persists once the PVP Gods have had their space rape festival, have the game realize that only one team remains and activate the USEX Anal Squads or some shit, I dunno maybe the remaining ayyy enemies they’ll introduce will do something, fucking anything, to prove that this has PvE elements that matter
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>>560126448
Act like a nigger and go to a beat buy and try to extract with a bunch of shit. You might have to 1v1 the guard
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>>560126570
If you want to rook, you are solo with a map of mostly trio teams
If you solo as a normal class, you go solo against other normal classes
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>>560126570
theres a solo vs solos mode, a trios vs trios mode (random teams and premades mixed), and a scavenger mode where youre a solo in trios (but you have to play some gay robot guy)
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>>560126570
Solos get matched with solos unless you decide to play as a Rook. They spawn in to trios matches that are already in progress
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>>560126669
>tfw the Best Buy Commander comes out
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>>560126706
Rook has the best design and lines
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>>560126669
retail guards are trained not to actually stop shoplifters for liability reasons btw. you can walk into a walmart and extract with $2k in loot and all they'll do is file a police report and ban you from the premises
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I'M ROOKING IT
AAHHH I'M ROOKING IT
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>>560126248
The failure rate on the priority contracts can be fairly high because there's so many people trying to do them at the same time, or at launch just camping the tick building in Perimeter for free kills. I think the only frustrating part that may merit changing is spawn location - some stuff just becomes completely unfeasible if you spawn on the other side of the map and it essentially becomes a dead run - like the 'grab two deimosite rods from maintenance and exfil' contract, if you didn't spawn in Maintenance you're almost definitely not going to get that one done that run.

>>560126427
They're coming at you from one direction, and you have a shitload of cover/side rooms with which to dodge grenades, even if another crew tries you have an advantage unless you got way more hurt than you should have fighting bots - even then you could smoke and take the elevator up and set up while they're trying to climb after you, etc etc. And of course, sometimes you just lose, shit happens. Hasn't to me yet in that particular manner, but I've absolutely been followed up and killed after breaching a few times.
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>>560126462
Yes this shits going to die in a month when everyone's memorized the 3 tiny ass maps
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>>560125938
been on cyberacme the last 3 days
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I'm a bit lost on all the lore, is the Codex a good place to start or do I have to watch a YouTube video?
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>>560125731
It's called DIRE Marsh for a reason
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Dammit, zerloth, if you're gonna leave random claymores to down people, at least be there to loot them after. wasting my time here, man.
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>>560126880
the codex is good for telling you what's currently going on in the story but you'll miss all the references to the og marathons. if that's something you care about, go play the og marathons instead of watching some youtuber faggot summarize them
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>>560126870
damn, I've had cyac, mida, and nucal.
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>>560125583
i threw a bot into a building with a full team and the dude ran after it and got raped lol
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Favorite megacorp? For me its nucaloric
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>>560127075
on the plus side, my cyberacme is lvl 21 and the upgrades are easy to purchase.
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if Bungie gave some of these factions grey quests that had objectives like ‘take it up the bum by three different trio groups’ I might make some progress
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>>560127016
I'm not playing the og marathons you stupid unc boomer, fuck you.
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>>560127223
cyac kits also have the best runner skins
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>>560127227
its the exfil part of the contract that gapes me the most
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I want PvP but I also want less PvP

I can’t do this sisters, it’s relentless
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>2 sponsor kits
>someone who brought in green gear

the other squads
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>>560126212
higher ttk would fix a lot of issues
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other people: full purple
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>>560126570
There's essentially two queues
>Trios
If you have 2 or 3 people in your party, even if you choose not to fill, you'll be put in a lobby with 3-man crews. This is the way that most of the NPC encounters are balanced, like the red NPC world bosses have an unreasonably high amount of health for solo players to deal with, but a trio can put them down in like 30 seconds. People are less shy about making noise in this mode compared to Solo as it's less likely you'll end a fight without resistance.
Additionally, if you play Rook (the 7th Shell option) you have to solo, you'll spawn into these lobbies but for games that are already 15 minutes or so in, so you have 10 minutes to kind of loot the remains and maybe vietcong down a crew by yourself to steal their primo shit. Rook cannot bring in his own gear, but the gear he gets is upgraded by upgrading the factions - eventually Rook becomes a well equipped ambush monster with claymores and a shotgun by default (and costs nothing to have these things)
>Solo
If you pick one of the 6 shells and don't Fill, you'll be put into lobbies with only other solo players, and there are no Rooks that spawn in. This is the way I primarily play and it's very slow/methodical as people are trying to remain quiet and avoid rather than fight bots - if you make noise, expect someone to try and stalk and kill you.
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>>560127227
The progression would be fine if we could run a priority contract and a standard contract at the same time
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>>560127296
cyac monster energy thief is very sexy
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>>560127725
I think they'll probably make this change eventually. Seems like a no-brainer.
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>>560127634
Honestly, with how plentiful credits are and how fast you get em you can get enhanced kits a bit easier
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>>560121673
built for plugging thief's throat
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>>560127904
>with how plentiful credits are and how fast you get em
Am I playing a different game than you?
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No Hub, No Emotes

No Cryos Archives...
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>>560127982
If you're not doing rook runs in pinwheel, yes. I have over 100k in the bank and another 100k worth of gear in my vault.
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>>560127904
>with how plentiful credits are and how fast you get em
I have never ever managed to get above 15k and I play since launch.
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>>560127982
you're just not a high net worth runner, if you can't sniff out credits that's on you
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>>560125284
Outpost's pretty scary to be fair. Gotta do it eventually though if only to get all your liasons taken care of
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>>560127296
>>560127771
I'm waiting on my Traxus Thief.
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>Kill the two ghosts on processing roof.
>Wait till someone gains access to pinwheel
>get the second obj and still have 10mins to DCON
>Go back for a LMG and get knifed
My greed sickens me.
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so is the current rook strat to rat your way into pinwheel and wipe whoever's up there? i really need to learn the pinwheel layout.
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I have a revolutionary million dollar idea for an item.
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>>560111879
Do it in the last 5 mins of the game when there's no one left in the raid.
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Is an item that unlock the Hub feature
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>bungie considers cryo archive the ace in their sleeves
>it's a map that requires keys you can only find from the hardest bosses that is inaccessible to rooks and solo queues
how are they this delusional
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>>560127456
I've only ever seen blue shields max, so gear has to be a part of matchmaking.
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>>560128749
>revolutionary
OI
RUNNAH
MIDA COULD YEWSE A BLOKE LIKE YEW
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>>560128674
On my successful run, I did the same but got out to DCON, then went back in and got gunned down by the guy who opened it in the first place. Felt good
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Lets go, after my good run on pinwheel ( i am not bringing loot from that here lol) I'm ready to take more, dire marsh with my first sniper
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>>560128970
>new contract: tip over Colony trash cans around Outpost
ARE YAH READY FOH THE REVOLUTION RUNNAH
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>>560128925
>how are they this delusional

All they need to do is focus on building the game around the few remaining 500 PvP Sweat Gods and they will make billions of dollars, Bungie got this, don’t worry
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>>560127982
encrypted kit is super cost efficient. You pay 4k and you get
full stack of both meds
1 of each of blue meds
1 booster
2 weapons
ammo
shield
some basic cores for your class
basic enhancments
It's like 8k worth of credits for 4k and you get free rep with every faction if you extract. I always do 1 run per day.
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>>560127982
1/3 of the people actually get to play the game
2/3 of the people are just content for that 1/3
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>>560128925
>>560129403
>entire map locked behind keys
>no safe container to keep your keys
You're gonna have everyone camping the entrance waiting for a poor retard to open the doors or more likely no one will ever bring any keys so nothing will ever fucking open.
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>>560128949
im level 13. i think somethings fucky because ill get one squad around my level then theres just one guy whos closer to elvel 30 and its makin my matches miserable because theres a big steep gap going on here
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The Run/Hide contracts are officially the most painful. So relieved to be on the last one.
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>0/5 runner kills after 3 hours
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this game is unironically going to be killed due to the lack of a safe wallet, or the mid run DCON extract mechanic they transparently and obviously cut for some reason.

as is you can sink enormous amounts of time in with good gear and lose everything in the span of less than a second even with purple shields.
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>>560129621
because this is a shitty pvp focused game, theres probably some developer thats like
>this will make people PvP and make the people who win feel better about their loot they earned from bringing their keys in
completely ignoring 99% of other scenarios
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Which shells are tranny shells and which shells are chud shells?
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>>560129735
>mid run DCON extract mechanic they transparently and obviously cut for some reason.
why did they do this
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>>560129823
I'm trans and suck off my teammates and the other team
and I play Thief
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>>560121673
taste like meat, isn't.
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>>560129735
I say this unironically, this game is the most schizophrenic title I’ve ever played, it’s enjoyable but it feels like 3 or more development factions all fought one another during making the game to have their vision be the dominant one, it’s enjoyable and can be fun at times but outside of the beautifully cohesive art design, audio, presentation and atmosphere it’s a Frankensteins monster of a game, the PvP players are bruteforcing enjoyment from this game in a way I don’t think was intended
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>>560129823
i'm a tranny chud (i take hrt but i call people niggers) and i play vandal
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>>560129823
They're all trannies, Rook is the true chud since he's a genderless frame.
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>>560129752
you can have pvp and still have containers. If you go customs literally every single raid you will get at least 4 people fighting each other in dorms for 10 mins over marked room. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY CAN ALL KEEP THE KEYS IN THEIR SAFE CONTAINER INSTEAD OF RISKING IT FOR NOTHING.
Without container you actually get less pvp cause no one bothers risking those type of rooms.
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>use freekit
>get matched with blue/green shields
>bring in all blue gear, 3-5k value
>get matched with two freekits

this matchmaking system is fucking stupid and I'm tired of pretending it isn't. it's exclusively based on your season pass level, so I can't imagine how some casuals who played a ton are feeling getting matched exclusively against hypersweaty streamers.
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Hey /mg/, tourist here with some info, not sure how accurate this is but I thought it was worth sharing. Please take this with a grain of salt.
I have an acquaintance I know on Twitter from playing Destiny 2; they're a Korean player who I've talked to off and on for years and we've been talking Marathon.
His KR buddies are claiming that the Gear Matchmaking isn't working right. Instead of matching you based on your active kit it's calculating your vault as well; so what they've been doing, but, aren't entirely sure how reliably it's working - is that any and all weapons that are of a rarity need to have all their mods and chips uninstalled from the gun when they're in your vault and if you want to go go even further any and all item rarities, even Salvage is counting to your present Kit Loadout when you go onto a map.
Kitted out guns in the vault though seem to be most of whats being counted but even then it's not reliable because they are still encountering other teams with yellow and purple shells and either, like before, its bugged or that there is some sort of matchmaking for K/D ratio's as well but its not the priority when matching with gear/items
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the game not doing so hot means they are definitely not going to fix or add anything past season 2
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I like playing with trans shells as teammates like Thief and Vandal.
I myself play Destroyer, a straight white male, protecting them both
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>>560130038
Yeah, I have four keys in my vault and I'm not using any of them because it never feels worth it because If I go in solo I'm 100% going to die and if I fill I have to hope I get matched with non-retards. This game was obviously designed around premades which would be fine if any of my friends wanted to play it.
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>>560121673
built to get shot in the dick by my wstr
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>>560130038
agreed
devs are fucking stupid and think
>obviously our game will be played this way
and every time
players would much rather take the path of least resistance
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what are the chances I get instagibbed by radar hackers the moment I bring this into the cryo map?
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>>560130029
people saw through all the extraction shooter bits and speedran the part where it's just all about team deathmatch in under a week.
like the games get figured out so quick and this got figured out in a few days. i really dont get how but maybe the game was just shallow from the start. and when you have a game so shallow from the start, its just going to be revealed as a broken mess
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>>560130259
>steal some loot
>gives it to you
>maybe grabs your bulge a little
:3
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>>560130050
I gave up burning any vaulted kit in trios, that shit gets used solo and it’s free sponsor kits for trio fill or bust, it’s just way too much of a gamble
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>>560128970
OI RUNNAH, GOT A NEW JOB FOR YEW IF YUOR INTERESTED. STICK CHEWED GUM UNDAH THE DESKS AT THE WEST GATE OF DIRE MARSH. THAT SHOULD LET YEWEY ESSEE KNOW WE'RE SERIOUS LIKE.
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bros....my twink assassin just got brutally pegged by a qt futa vandal again....
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>>560130490
they bend to the playtesters too so they got like half of thinkin how the game should be played and then bend over for people saying people die too slow and its like holy fuck so where do you want to go with this schizo mess?
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>>560130029
>>560130531
I'm new to extraction shooters, but it seems kind of gay that the meta in marathon is
>clear out the lobby of other players
>so you can do the PvE
and its not a natural mix of both
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>rook run on outpost
>waiting outside of a guarded exfil that I activated, just waiting for my ability cooldown
>someone walks up and starts the matter extract countdown
>I sprint towards it
>he sees me and jumps up and down to signal that he's peaceful
>I just panic and just start knifing him
>he goes down
>I knife him more and eliminate him
>matter transfer begins 1 second after
>immediately feel profound guilt
I really hope that guy just didn't have any good gear or loot. Holy shit why did I do it? I didn't even gain anything from it, just ruined his run for 0 reason after he tried being peaceful.
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>>560130490
>>560130696
First Bungie game? They have a "vision" which they absolutely will never compromise on, unless playercounts reach a certain low at which point they will immediately abandon their vision to chase the bag. Feedback doesn't matter. The only thing that matters if you play or not.
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>>560130926
i gave up on halo infinite too quick to see them bend over to anything.
how it usually goes for a shit game. and it will happen to this.
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>>560129823
Destroyer is the chud shell he does the Chad stride
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>>560130710
Maps are too small, rooks are not a threat. People cried about muh pve being hard but they never got one shotted by a scav sniping you through 10 bushes from 50 meters.
PVE is not a threat
Rooks are not a threat
Maps are so small you can run to any gunshots in ~30 seconds
All of this incentivizes wiping lobbies.
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>Load in with my cute Nona sponsored gear
>Hear gunfire
>Wait like the rat I am
>Get the drop on another thief
Sorry man, that's just the way it goes.
And to the Rook who downed me on exfil, filename.
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>>560130885
I'd uninstall
>oh hey someone needs to exfil
>jump and up down to signify I'm friendly
>brutally knifes me over and over like I'm in Europe
>the animation is really scary
>get downed
>maybe he just wanted to be safe and we can both exf-
>Europe stabs me more
>die
>exfil goes 1 second later
"What a fucking asshole, I just wanted to exfil for a contract I've been trying to do for hours, never playing this shit again."
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>>560131043
halo infinite was 343i anon, entirely different studio
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>>560131298
so just say destiny 2 then.
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>>560131221
>cute Nona sponsored gear
I wonder if Nona blushes when Shells use her kit
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>>560130885
Think about positives now this player will kill every rook on sight and will tell everyone to kill every single rook on sight :)
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>>560130885
some people just want to watch the world burn.
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>>560130885
it's always common the rapid crouch is usually sign for peaceful. That guy was alerting his team
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>>560131185
Yep thats why this shit needs to be apex sized with 60 players the small maps make every game a race to clear the map of players and then do pve which is gay af when the entire conceit is running around the marathon doing cool pvevp
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>>560131282
Yeah I feel pretty awful about it even still. The guilt is immense. I honestly didn't expect him to be friendly, I just ran with full killing intent in full panic mode, I was just spamming attack and didn't stop to think until it was already over.
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>>560131282
this unironically happened to me, they didn't show they were friendly or anything so that's on me, I just assumed everyone would want to exfil
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>>560131221
loot doko?
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>>560130710
I still play it as a mix of both, though every now and again the thunderdome happens if people decide to. It's still fun to recognize that shooting down robots kind of just sets off an alert timer where you need to immediately hide/leave and be mindful of your vulnerable angles. A lot of the time you can just knife your way through recruits and not set off the 'come kill me' alarm.
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>boring contract after contract to get MIDA lvl 11 for agility upgrade
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all they had to do was raise the ttk bros
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>>560131282
The problem is console fags being always shoot on sight like roaches they are
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>>560131474
I was shitposting, but that's completely fair, 99% of this game is killing on sight, and if you don't pull the trigger first, then you're dead
It sucks but hopefully that guy understands
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>>560128925
Keys to access the map at all? That’s a mistake. Keys accessing hard locked sections of the map are good. And the key could even only unlock the door for 30 seconds or something so rats don’t make it in without being clever. Otherwise I imagine like an endless horde mode outside the gates. And rooks should be allowed of course.
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>had important studying to do today
>played Mara from 10am to now (6.30pm)
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>>560131551
everything in that pic. it was a minute into the raid and all i had was a sponsored Volt SMG.
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>>560131857
>these are the kinds of people getting degrees
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>>560131185
japanese man kinda gets it. it doesn't really feel like an extraction shooter and more like a BR where you can just bring in bullshit yourself
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playing solo is actually paranoid central now with increased range to gun fire.
I am always exfilling around the 2-5 minute mark near the end of the round because most of the round I'm crouch walking along the perimeter of the map after completing an objective just to exfil safely.
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Bring back the free lmg kit holy shit the ones since then have been awful
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>>560131938
you seriously couldn't find a single thing to loot?
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>>560131379
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>>560131674
Me with arachne giving me another kill rooner contract
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>>560132348
arachne contracts are worthless you kill 1 guy you get like 90 rep
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I have like 15 lockbox keys but lockboxes don't have guaranteed spawns + no safe pocket so why would I risk the key?
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>>560132534
because you have 15 of them
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Just sell them, there's nothing good inside anyway.
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>>560132618
I had twenty, lost 5 of em already.
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>>560132534
Just pack a key for your runs then? Why the fuck are you hoarding them? The lockboxes contain valuables so you can always turn a single key into higher profit
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So what's the actual setup for things going on here? I get the basic gist, but I have some questions about specifics. Where are the runners jumping onto Tau Ceti from exactly? Are we in another ship in orbit or what?
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>>560132534
I got a key for North Relay office, is it actually worth going there and lootan?
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>>560131185
The recent audio change was one of the worst decisions especially when one of the earlier playtests had things noisy in a similar degree and people hated it, it devolved into shitflinging like you'd expect in a BR hot drop where people just sprint to spawns and things end quick. The muh positoning boys have been quiet when their big head canon of this being some major tactical serious game goes out the window when it just feels like a shit show after the second somebody gets shot at.
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>>560132869
on the main menu screen theres a hologram of the Marathon and on the floor the stripping says LOAD HERE so I guess that's the place, no idea what or where it is
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>destroyer yells WHYYYYYYYY when I shred through his shield and light his ass up
>bag has a blue shotgun

Okay, pal
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>>560132020
hey I said something similar to that pic, I feel smart
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>>560127456
>8k lux
LOL.
>all those shields and implants
Jesus Christ...
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>>560132081
define "loot"
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>>560133009
>Play Perimeter solo.
>The entire map is ghost silent for 10 minutes before you hear a single gunshot.
On the other hand, silencers do exist and it's good that you can hear well in buildings. On another, hearing a gunfight from the other side of the map just makes it way too easy in solos to pinpoint someone.
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>>560133105
it's kind of strange there's almost no references to it? no one saying "return to ___" or "when you get back on the __" or anything? It seemed like in that one trailer runners were all on some huge construction but nothing's said about it?
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>>560131674
>PROVE YOURSELF RUNNAH MIDA NEEDS TA SEE YOUR DEDICATION TO TAH CAUSE
>In a single run: Throw toilet paper at three UESC commanders
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>>560133461
Silencers are so op you don't even know you legit can't hear anything from like ~50m
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>>560131971
degrees don't mean shit anyway. how many of those degrees wasted working at starfucks or mccuckles.
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>>560133710
>anon seething because nucal wouldn't hire him
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>>560133780
naw, i did trades for 19 years and now i'm living unemployed life.
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>>560133461
It turns it into an even larger shit show with 3s. Obviously slow rolling has always been a general sanity tactic especially with questing in mind but Dire Marsh has been dick punch nightmare show where people have all the cues in the world to bum rush. I also feel like part of this change was because the brain trusts at Bungie didn't realize that people were going to optimally not congregate in the dead center pin wheel for a showdown and it was more advantageous to clear out people
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>>560133878
literal 50yo unc in the thread lmao
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My rule of thumb: If you do not have purple shields, do not carry a purple gun.
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>>560133937
close, 39. i said unemployed, not retired.
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>>560133982
purple guns don't really mean anything. You can get like 10 of them in a single pinwheel raid.
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>>560133982
Purple guns are worthless. As long as it's not a grey it's good enough, shields and nades are the only shit that matters
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>>560133582
>Throw toilet paper at three UESC commanders
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>>560134091
If you like losing purple weapons, then by all means don't carry a purple shield.
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>>560130885
The thought of you having a Shinji esque "I'm so fucked up" moment after this is hilarious to me.

Congrats on being a human still though, feeling bad is right here.
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>>560133878
based desu i wish i had gone to trade school instead of college. you holding up okay? i've heard trades can be pretty brutal on the body
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>>560134253
>white long shot 2 shots people
>purple long shot 2 shots people
>white shotgun 2 shots people
>purple shotgun 2 shots people
There's 0 difference the only attachment that matters is silencer for bully so you can clear out robots while making 0 noise.
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im excited to get off work in 9 hours and play. im going to get killed everytime by a full stack of golds but idk i hunger for more
i do hope bunige figures out a way to limit the amount of sweats in a match
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>>560134387
purples absolutely matter for many contextual battles
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>>560133923
I think the issue in the players hunting other players currently just runs into time constraints eventually. Teams will just continue to avoid getting into fights where they'll risk shit and then cut their losses after they've taken everything that isn't nailed down. This way somebody has to take the risk to get in at some point, or risk just running against the clock.
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>>560124363
Bungie, in their infinite wisdom, made the premium pass voucher an actual consumable item. They can be dropped for your friends and taken from corpses, so yes, if you have a non-used premium voucher, someone can loot it from you if you are killed.
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>even shroud the ex-pro fps player says increasing the gunshoot audio range was retarded
lmao
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>>560134530
why would you bring it with you on a run though?
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>>560134226
I wish she didn't graduate
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>>560131857
That's a mighty cute Sekiguchi plush...
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this game is gonna be a hidden gem that’s considered a cult classic and be reappraised years down the line, isn’t it, we’re all witnessing the birth of something truly special
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>>560134656
>Its get good 20 years later
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>>560134656
they're calling it titanfall 2 2
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>>560134656
>>560134798
This but unironically
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>>560134656
I think the fork in the road is
>Bungie doubles down on hardcore pvp game idea and bleeds players, shut down within the year
>Bungie cucks to pve requests and casualises like Apex has over the years, game gets worse as time goes on, maybe lasts the year
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>>560111879
Huh, I didn't have much of a problem with that contract.
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>>560133878
>7 time college drop out
>got my masters for software engineering on the 8th attempt on a free tard scholarship
>30 yo
>could've gone into the trades at 18
>could've had job security for the most part depending on which I went into
>jobs for software engineering is so oversaturated with pajeets and vibe code fags it's not worth it
Well, guess I'll wait for the next go around
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just make the game have a F2P 5v5 arena mode where u make a class and then paypigs also get the extraction/raid/pve/lore modes
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>>560134656
Depends how fast they are with content drops and the quality of said content. If it's even moderately good it'll be sufficient but if it isn't scheduled consistently then it won't last until EOY. But yes, years down the line this will be remembered fondly.
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>>560134951
lol I am doing networking now and somehow got a job where everything is on-prem because they are cloudphobic. Everything that comes out from Cisco etc. is just more shit to reduce people working in the IT space, to have less people managing more stuff remotely.

Trades is valuble skills but fucking sucks day to day from the people I talk to like electricians and cable installers. People getting old and retiring look like shit
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>>560135172
>Depends how fast they are with content drops and the quality of said content

judging by the last couple of years of trangie this will be a fucking let down
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>>560135185
I was actually looking at being an electrician due to my great grandfather in little germany. From what I realized a lot of the tech field doesn't actually need the degree just the security certifications and you're golden
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>>560135349
I did a degree in Computer Networking and didn't learn a single useful thing, would have been much better to spend the time doing certs
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>>560125060
>>560126405
Gambit is a PvPvE mode in Destiny 2 that existed since Forsaken (2018) with some alterations thrown in over years. It is a 4v4 mode. Two teams are playing on identical maps. Enemies spawn in waves, players kill them, and killed enemies drop special items called Motes which have a limited lifespan on the ground.

Your objective is to collect Motes and drop them into the Bank (a special structure in the middle of the arena). A player can carry up to 15 motes. Dying with Motes makes you lose some Motes, and half of what you carried spills on the ground so that others can pick it up. For every 5, 10 or 15 motes dropped in one go by one player, a special 'blocker' enemy spawns at the opposing team's Bank. As long as at least one blocker is alive, the Bank is closed and cannot be used for drops. If too many blockers are present, they start siphoning Motes from the affected Bank into the other team's Bank.

The goal is to reach 100 Motes banked, at which point the regular enemy spawns cease, and the boss called Primeval spawns with its own waves of adds. Both arenas also have the 'invasion portal' which charges when a sufficient number of Motes are banked.

Invasion allows one player to attack the other team to disrupt their mote collection or boss fight, and killing players when they have summoned a Primeval will actually heal the Primeval, letting the other team have a chance to catch up. A good invader can decide the outcome of the whole match.

That's about it. Gambit was left to rot for the last several years, which made Destiny players suspect that whoever could theoretically work on it were thrown to work on Marathon.
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>>560115535
>no one gives a (You) to actual good, biting criticisms to the game
lol, stay classy /mg/
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just saw someone with the pink cat emblem, how do I get that? does it have to do with the terminals?
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timmy's upset no one responded to his posts kek
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>>560135957
pre-order I think
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>>560135957
FIND BINGUS
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>>560134495
Doesn't help when some of even the general contracts are fucking moronic for already limited mats you gotta bring to a DCON. I think that's my only strike with some of the questing where you def want to get as much Rep as you can even from the shittier quests you should re roll, but it's annoying how some of them can swing. Traxus with that Find 8 Filament, stick in DCON which is gonna be a multi trip thing for sure
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>>560134656
i love it because it's the last gasp of the early-2010s era of LE HARDCORE GAMING. there will literally never be another AAA game as fundamentally inaccessible and hostile as marathon, and that makes marathon awesome
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>>560135172
This is something I'm thinking about with who made what , what capacity got it there in terms of staff etc. Like when Bungie axed people who were making raids and other end game shit for Destiny, and a lot of Marathon people got smoked to, it's like even with a much smaller scope and limitations for Marathon, this game can't afford a Year of Prophecy so soon
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>>560136138
so I have to find him on outpost to get the embelm? where in outpost is that?
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>>560134370
I'm thinking about swapping out. my back only hurts the odd day but my hands were taking a beating. i know a guy in IT that told me the chat support role in his company is a revolving door but if i can work from home helping other tradies figure out a phone app, sure.
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>>560134813
No one is calling it that retard
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>all this I'd uninstall
I'd refund. Papa Gabe let me do it last time. I can do it again.
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>>560136138
Just above Views below the screenshot
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Death to Bungie and wokeness.
They ruined D1 legacy
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>>560136138
what's a bingus?
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>>560136649
they're calling you a faggot
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>>560130521
Bud everyone has cryo keys, they honestly seem more common than keys for the other maps. I've found 3 keys and they're all for cryo, only time I had keys for other maps is when I made two blue keys with the cyac barter.
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>>560130029
Given how bad the hyperPVP focus is going to be for player retention, I can't see this continuing for much longer. They're going to be forced to do something to make KOS PVP less the default option.

Bungie playtesters are all delusional weirdos if the internal releases and footage are anything to go by (they were recording footage and releasing it of wholesome chungus trios teaming up mid run with rooks for events and other transparently not happening stuff).
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>>560136752
Cry more faggot, at least titanfalls pvp was actually better given the movement, speed and timing needed.
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>>560136745
Cat >>560135957
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>>560136769
I'm honestly surprised if got handled in this way. The extremely credible ex employee sounding leaks made it seem like everybody was going to be forced to take specific keys off each of the 3 maps to even get a chance to do anything in Cryo. I guess they realized it'd be total unemployment boys and streamers if it was as restrictive and oppressive. This is the one positive that I'm glad a lot of different FPS people came to Marathon so they can marvel at Bungie's retardation and keep them in line. I want the thumbscrews for reverting the audio shit, it's driving me insane right now.
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>>560129831
probably so they can add it in as a "new" feature later
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>>560136745
Sphinx cat.
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>>560135742
The invasion mechanic and spawning enemies against the other team was really fun. For the little while I played Destiny 2 I really enjoyed Gambit overall. Shame it wasn't expanded on.

I really feel like there's an untapped idea for FPS or TPS to incorporate stuff like that, more than the BR or Extraction games that toss everyone in the pot but something more Souls like in explicit instance invasions, empowering enemies, third parties of questionable alliance, explicit allies looking for the same objectives as you that are all actually delineated and warned about when they spawn in etc. It's at least weird to me such a popular element of those games has been danced around for so long in other games, I feel like there's a lot of iteration on the concept more than just here's a map with people who aren't going to communicate so you'll just assume are shoot on sight.
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>>560135757
The problems with Marathon do not require you to come here to be aware of them. You can play the game for about 10 runs and you'll realize that no one talks in the game and immediately if you know anything about social interaction in any popular relatively niche shooter that Tarkov was based on (including Tarkov as well) then it presents itself as a problem.
It wouldn't be a massive problem if Marathon didn't have like 4 other decently big issues which are much worse than people not talking because you'd be stupid to talk in this game.

Like, the problems with the "vE" part of the game is simple to overlook. Just do not engage unless you HAVE to. The UESC do not patrol often outside of specific areas, and solo players are running rook/thief/assassin anyway which have numerous tools to let them sneak/not engage.
You don't have to use your mic at all, and you should not. That's fine. There are bigger problems Marathon has to the actual health of the game rather than the lack of communication in trios, the lack of player interaction, the lack of vE.
Bungie's awful communication, their lacking content, the upper end of the gameplay loop are probably the top 3 things that will most likely ruin the game's chances of having a decent playercount by the middle of the second wipe. Much more pressing issues which unfortunately, are out of the control of the players.
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>>560137074
Thanks for beta testing season 1 for me guys
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>>560136925
Long time Destiny idiot, I am in the Bungie good graces even when talking shit as they always send me thorough surveys with no skips, I was in the playtests, you're absolutely correctly Bungie has a very bad habit of not realizing how people play their own game. They did this a ton in Destiny where raw aggression was always rewarded, no point in trying to play some hunker down tank, support position when you can remove a threat with ability spam, and it always lead to breaking points that the romanticized vision never came close to existing. "Rally barricade can taunt and draw aggro when player is behind it", but no reason to play behind it for how momentum based the game was, so they literally ass pulled Bolt Charge system and Storm's Keep to get people planted behind barricades. The fact they felt like people weren't pvping enough in Marathon is weird as fuck when you start playing more, get to Dire Marsh, you find pain quickly
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>>560134592
Why is it retarded
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>>560135957
its a twitch drop
so better get to watching those streams goyim
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>>560112062
Is that intentional or is the Tau Ceti SLVT virus getting worse?
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>>560137259
A lot of it can be boiled down to "Bungie are retarded, and will never compromise unless the money stops flowing or upper staff is breathing down their necks." It shows there's potential here but a lot of design choices and elements not taken from other extract shooters really shows, adding the fact the wipe pretty much nukes your faction progress for the new season just hits that no I won't do all this again for a new season you retarded fucking shitmonkies.
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>>560137231
They tried to experiment on it over the years, added a new mode called Gambit Prime with altered rules and special armor sets that provided bonuses related to a certain role: mote collector, bank sentry, reaper (ad killer) and invader. Too bad they fucked up and made most sets useless except for the invader which was hilariously OP. Eventually they dropped it entirely, removed the armor bonuses and merged both Gambits into one mode which was a hodgepodge of both.
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>>734820592
>>734820592
>>734820592

Early Exfil
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>>560137839
Thanks jannies
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>>560137839
Stop baking so early you fucking fag retard
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>>560137890
Did rulebros... Win?????
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>>560137839
What board were you trying to link to, newfag
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>>560136769
>everyone has cryo keys
I have 40 hours in the game and I haven't seen a single one, but I've also been almost exclusively playing solo queue.

I've also not seen one (1) room key.
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Shillsisters, do we keep baking??
We are losing the Narrative!
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>get matched with the same people 3 times today on same map
is this a good or bad thing?
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>>560135957
Can you actually do anything with the cat you see sometimes in the maps?
Xhe always fucks off too quickly when I try to get near.
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>>560112062
This but my Thief
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>fucked myself over my trying to shoot while sliding but forgot I was using Vandal again
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>>560137495
It's bizzare to me that they gave titans a moving shield super in D2 and not once was it ever good in the 8 years that game was out. It was fucking trash, and it had never been in a decent state ever. No one used it or played with it, unless they were forced to for having literally no other option or because they had challenges attached to it.
Dunno why I said this honestly, you just reminded me.
>>560137667
Yea, there's potential. I would say if this launched as a genuine early access product this would be a fucking strong showing, but this is like an early access title on a 0.80ver that has a $40 price tag and isn't an early access title or a beta or whatever.
Its insane to me they STILL have not learned anything from the Destiny 1 faction reputation system. They had it. They've put elements of it into this, but they've done the same seasonal reset bullshit that Destiny 2 had which will kill any and all motivation when they refuse to actually communicate on whether or not this game is stable and will be around for more than a year.

What, our progress resets in 2-3 months? And that's one wipe? You're going to bank on at least 2 more wipes this year most likely? Does the game have the stability to even last that long that they can commit to that?
And its hilarious, people are actually attached to these factions. They like them, they like their focuses their lore and they like how they match up with playstyle, but its stupid to me that they've essentially done away with players choosing how they want to spec out their character when seasonal wipes are guaranteed and there are simply factions with "take these skills or you're a dumb retard" options.
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>triage is fun to play
>no good skins
truly a shame
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Dire Marsh extraction is aids
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>Still on page 7

Redditors won, Billions must wait.
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>>560138662
i love how most of the non guarded exfils still have a ton of uesc around them
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Are there any tiers lists or recommends for optics for the SMG class of weapons?
Not sure what to give my gun
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>>560139079
I tell you on the next thread
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>reinforcements on route
>sometimes its a dropship
>sometimes they materialize behind you like launch day cyberpunk cops
Wtf is it with this
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i like playin new multiplayer games but this game is very anti-community with how its laid out.
im not like a carebear but theres a clear divide of people that really dont feel a sense of working together or tryin to fix the game to be part of a wider community.
the game has some clear balance issues but the people really into the game do not want shit fixed. its like a dog trying to protect its chew toy
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>>560138609
>all the skins are just going to be a reskinned black guy
could have been the new face of healsluts, and they had to promote robot diversity
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why don't they just lump players onto teams based on the contracts they're doing
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>>560139197
>im not like a carebear but theres a clear divide of people that really dont feel a sense of working together or tryin to fix the game to be part of a wider community.
Browns
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>>560139334
Thats just lazy racism. Unironically the people that have been the most cooperative to me have been either boomers, people that sound like helldivers players and apparently some black dudes who tend to run either thief or vandal the most from what ive noticed
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>>560139510
Its logistical racism. 80% of this game is that
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>>560139197
Thats what rightwing does to you. Teaches you to be silent unless you are certain you can call a nigger a monkey. Join the trannycord. Embrace your inner Epstein
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>>560139650
People who have no mics I can tell we are going to have issues UNLESS they are the ones that only mic up if the run is going well 10 minutes in.
No mic and ignoring pings? Yeah that's just not happening.

I only came across one spanish speaking team, nothing stood out.

Recon players tend to have the most cancer people.
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>>560139510
the game has a very "you dont own anything and you will be happy" mentality to it.
"racism" is just used to guilt and manipulate whitey. every tribe has it. a thousand browns raised in no religious proper environments(niggers) and then you have a thousand browns who follow some shit covered book tellin them its best you rape, scam, cheat, and lie are something to consider

anyway, this game aint for the white community
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>>560139510
>game is 99% KOS
>even people on teams don't speak
>console shooter with aim assist for controllers
>people in this thread, on streams, and other social platforms boast about ruining other people's fun
Gee, I wonder where all the cooperative people are? Co-op PvE games maybe?
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>>560139952
okay schizo
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>>560139334
>Worse People to play with in any co-op games
Indians/Pajeets
Africans, especially African Americans/Niggers
Brazilians, Cubans, Mexicans, anyone from South America/Spics
Any and all the Northern European/Russian adjacent countries

>Best Races to play with
White People
Asian People, specifically Japanese and Koreans the Chinese are a bit worse
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>>560139292
they do tho iirc
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>>560139952
Only White Christians has Megachurches. It's the only race combo that can.
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>>560140098
>co-op games
>PvP
I despise the Steam tags make it impossible to find PvE co-op games because you can't filter out all the PvP games.
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>>560139837
The worse players I've encountered, by far, are Assassins, Recons, and Vandals.
Destroyers are close behind
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literally what the fuck are any of you talking about and what does it have to do with the game?
also
>e-everyone keeps insisting the game is perfect when it isnt
are you the same cuck that posts this shit everyday about how the game is gonna die with it's "current direction" and when people tell you you're a retard you get all sulky and lament about how you "really like the game but its just such a shame because everyone else wants it to fail"?

why does this thread attract so many mentally ill fucking mongrel nutcases?
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>>560140238
So the only good players play Triage and Thief? What?
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Please tell me thermals can't see through smoke
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>>560140213
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
PvPvE Genre/Tag constantly appears when I'm looking for Co-Op and or PvE Looter Shooters.
its miserable.
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>>560140098
>yes i only listen to video game osts and got had special classes in grade school
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You know what I havent come across, any asian player. like you can tell who is who, i havent come across one that i could tell in mic.
Came across one female team who fuck...as rook i shot them for exfil and they killed me but that was days ago
>>560140037
well you know, I have found that a lot of people talk. I dont know what you guys are talking about when you say no one talks, almost every team talks. If not at the start then they use it when we need to.

What I have never seen is any use of prox chat and any use of prox chat by a rook.
>>560140238
Assasssins and Recon players are assholes.
Vandals tend to be shitters most of the time.
Agree

>>560140331
You're more likely to have a good player with Triage (except the ones that forget to send drones), Destroyer (ive seen good enemy ones covering, not mine) and Thief if they have a mic
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>>560140213
it seems to me
>assassin
i get to do the ratting bullshit better and wont play as a team. i have a quest to do on the other side of the map. bye, squad.
>recon
i get to be useless 90% of the time until i want to extract to guarantee im safe as fuck. i will die before that
>vandals
same shit as assassin but i can get to places faster to loot everything LOUDLY AS POSSIBLE and then get us killed to a squad

destroyers are hit or miss. its the default. but damn that rocket boost is so fuckin good. otherwise you get people who forget they have a useless shield
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>>560140098
>the Chinese are a bit worse
I'm trying, alright?
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>>560140310
not sure if thin skinned indian or tranny
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>>560140310
>where_do_you_think_we_are.jpeg (5kb)
>>560140098
Weeb.
>>560140449
Played with a Vandal this morning that saved our squad by slideshotting hoes with a shotgun in Hauler. I also threw up a shield as Destroyer that let our triage pull a clutch revive and self heal.
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>>560139952
>rape, scam, cheat, and lie
literally the history of the white race
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>>560140668
thats the jews though
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>>560131857
>>560137629
They do shit like that, but cannot enable a PvE lobby.
A good product does not need marketing. Fucking abject retards.
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>page 8
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>>560140310
What is this gormless tossa rambling on about? Mate you be straight washin the sheet knick suck a soup pop
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>>560140780
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>history of the white race
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>Everyone and their mother complaining about how hard and sweaty the game is
>People not realizing most sweats are using this
Just buy Anon, no one will know and then you can be all the other Anons who say to git gud

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Cronus-Controller-Adapter-Anti-Recoil-Ziel-Assist-Rapid/dp/B08L3T91N3/262-0370245-6449664
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what secret is he gonna tell me?
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>>560140668
Thats actually the history of humankind, regardless of race/ethnicity. Some have less of that animalistic impulse called greed which begets all other vices. some have more, some have a mutated version of it.
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Now I am extremely cooperative as a player even if my team are shitters (as I dont want them to feel bad) and might have to give away some loot to appease people...I just wish the doctor character was a cool hot looking girl. I dont have anything against triage but we are missing out on a robot healslut
>t. south american
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>>560139510
>black dudes who tend to run thief

topkek!
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>>560140930
yeah look around you now and see how things have developed.
which race continues to throw trash on the ground and shit everywhere?
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>page 9
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>>560140780
>>560140930
>Any time a country is preforming poorly and treating their citizens badly
>IT IZ ZE JEWISH KIKES AND ZE NIGGERS
>Honkey Crackers proceed to gobble it up
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>>560137629
will I get the drops if I watch my favourite streamer mr shroud?
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>>560141057
America. Spain. Hungary and soon to be even more of Russia. Anywhere white people suck their own dick hard enough they believe they can talk to god. Its gotta be genetic at this point.
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>>560141045
Every time I come across a black person in Marathon
>Running Thief
>Pings everything blue and above and goes on mic and goes "yo niggas get yo shit"
>Proceeds to not loot much and leaves yellows, purples, and blues for everyone
Then we have the whites and asians
>Goes to the good containers first, grabs all the best stuff and then pings container with a single green Fractal Circut
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>>560141379
sorry, what? our rivers still run clean
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>>560140935
>i am playing against people using that shit
Y'know, after the whole cheating bullshit in CSGO, Quake and others, i am not surprised in the least. Yet the question is to the devs: if you see this shit, and you know it exists and people use it ESPECIALLY in competitive games, why do you force those who do not use that and appreciate good sportsmanship to suffer that nonsense? It is almost as if it is an unspoken acquiescence to allow cheaters to have their fun at the expense of everyone and everything else.
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>>560137629
This game is so fucking cringe
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>>560141323
Shroud would bring the Golden Jacket Home
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>>560141420
>be sponsorkit
>team has green shields loading in
>somehow never ever encounter a green shield ever looting and killing squads
something to consider and im about to start demanding shields after i see these fuckin sticky fingers run up place up dry as fuck while being loud as fuck and get us in trouble.
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>>560141420
Real niggas know when their boys are strapped and geared up things tend to go better.
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I got hardcore carried by George Droid. I even got 2 burgers. Meanwhile, assass just went his own jolly way, we didn't see him until exfil
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>>560140992
>could've made female variants for the shells that didn't have one
>could've made male variants for shells that didn't have one
I'd play recon if there was a twink version
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>>560141562
greed anon. you were there for the catboy bf6 thing right? that is kinda what made me realize how bad it has gotten. i haven't played a shooter enough to care since counter-strike where everyone self-policed and called out cheaters even in casuals
the cheats sell, the devs have to constantly update the game to prevent it, which makes the cheaters update their shit. it never ends. sometimes profitable and keeps someone having a job allowing a new cheat to run through. they sel the cheat, you have a job to do to fix it.
now cheating is so fuckin normalized and now we have stream watchin zoomer kids think cheats are just being realy good. then you have walls of shit like kovaaks or some aim trainer bullshit full of cheating trannies.
shit. is. FUCKED.
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Can any of you rooks make a new thread already?
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>Still on page 9
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>>560136283
>inaccessible and hostile as marathon
Dunno if you are shitposting but this game is VERY simple. The people complaining about the UI or otger dumb shit are brainlets or using a controller.
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>>560141448
I was unaware you could still swim in inner-city rivers without contracting AIDS.
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>>560142258
>>560142258
>>560142258
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>>560141936
yeah this game wants you to think it runs deep but its really so fuckin simple that its laughable when people call it a hardcore shooter
the only thing hardcore about the game is that you die so fuckin fast
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>>560140449
>tired after work
>see the picture
>fried brain immediately reads the cap as 'I'm fatherless'
>well, that makes sense
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