Vogue Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-220287>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>560152894
Do you think Zerggy abd Metro realize they're lolcows?
>>560188192arcanist/alchemist is honestly tutorial level, and I say this as someone who was suffering from the same rank inflation as you (originally placed into Oracle VI). Right now I'm ritualist and I think this is pretty good for my skill level, everyone denies and rotates, but still a huge lack of game sense across the board. having fun right now.
>rush bepop u diekekw
Sex with Venator
>>560188206I found the pic while browsing online I'm just fineFunny you automatically assumed I deserve it
Geist plap
Silver heavy plap
>>560188459strange cope
>>560188580fine, bend over.
>>560188597I literally found it on twitter what is the cope
>>560188394Why the fuck does it seem like everyone was put in a moderate to high position, at times much above their skill level, when I had to crawl my way out of complete piss bottom surrounded by actual subsentient creatures?
All the females are far too flat
haze is countered by metal skin (3200). What item do I buy to counter the Calico combo?
>>560188394I was put at the lowest rank possible, get matched higher, cannot leave the lowest rank.
>>560188882kill youself, retarded gooner.
>>560188962Slowing Hex
>>560188962slowing hex, you retarded cancer low animalhow many times do people have to tell you this before you morons actually buy it
revert the patchrevert the patchrevert the patchrevert the patch
>>560189027No, fuck you, faggot. We have extreme diversity in men. It only makes sense to expect the same for women.
>>560189112>>560189094I dont really believe you... you sound like niggers who play calico
>>560188459How else is anybody supposed to interpret your post?
>>560154792where is it
I just don't think a single click button sending you to a hallway for 5-6 seconds is interesting design.
>>560189169Most girls have B to C boobers though and medium is premium
>>560189514Okay? And most men aren’t 8ft tell demons and zombies? What’s that got to do with the price of tea in China?
>>560189460I don't think a character floating 20 feet above their guardian and shooting me under mine is interesting game design either but here we are.
Why can't you lock it
>>560189847Just don't press it. If you fat finger that is on you.
>>560189460Being able to stasis someone where they cannot interact but cannot be killed for some time is an interesting mechanic. It helps tilt a fight to be more balanced or unbalanced temporarily. And works well for setting up combos. If Doorman getting you in the hotel garuntees his whole team can own zone you, you were probably out of position and likely to die regardless from any ultimate tier disable.Doorman's hotel also tries to reward being able to move well so you have something to do while you're in stasis instead of watching and can actively be less fucked over.It's super fast cooldown from a non-escape is just a bit toxic combined with how easy it is to make it impossible for most people to escape. It's awkward to practice and a lot of people will flub it everytime. And how easy it is to cart someone into near garunteed death with the ult if you have some coordination.I wish his kit was more based around doing silly things with his doors, I often find myself barely using them for much interesting when the match requries me to try.
>>560189614Point is they're not flat
>>560189460he has to get close unlike some pussy free flying with hit scan bullet
Has anyone else been having absolutely disgusting comebacks in their match lately?Like exposed enemy patron into loss?
>>560189181Low elo subhumans like this are literally incapable of learningretarded in the literal sense of the word
i give up playing support until i find someone to play with
>>560190180other way around for me but I honestly don't have much fun despite winning because of how much time is wasted
I haven't been able to play this game for a few days because the whole patch has just been so fucking frustrating. People just putting their head in the sand and ignoring issues or just spewing out the cope that is "just counterspell and curse bro" as if that's an on all be all solution and not a fucking bandaid to a cut to a god damn artery.
>>560190197chill out unc
Has anyone tried Majestic Leap on Graves for splitpushing purposes?
>>560190056They are
>>560190321I tried it once but they had a crazy ass M&K that chased me down and raped me still.
>>560190445My bad
>>560189621this image makes me laugh, I also feel like Billy would react to Doorman's ult lines that way. Why the fuck would Billy care that Doorman think's he's boring.
>>560190321>Maj leap for split pushingwhat is the average elo in this generalit cannot be above oracle
>>560190081good thing he has one of the best escapes in the game along with another CC stun that sends people flying away from him if he's scared
>>560189460I think otherwise so you're negated
>>560188580>>560188641hot
>>560190634>actually>unironically getting hit by cartyou drooling pigs play the 3d moba with 3d movement and STILL can't figure out you can jump over abilities...I bet you still lose to stomp dynamoKWAB
https://tracklock.gg/players/774913465Here's your initiate enemy for the day
>>560190731>Outright admitting you can't land one of your characters four abilities unless people are immobile and trying to turn it around into being someone else's skill issueImpressive levels of copium.
>play ivy>buy anvil>chain stun people to death with buttstomp while fisting them with a heavy meleeMost fun i had with the game in a while, 7? fisted. vindicta? fisted. paige? fisted. no longer will i suffer these assholes deleting my health par from 3 streets away
>>560190915you are a hilariously low elo pig if that's what you glean from that.no WONDER you cry about doorman, I bet you still cry about Lash and Dynamo too.wonder if this thread is your realization that you can in factjump OVER abilities in this gameKWABBBBB
>>560190594She's slow and fragile and there are lots of situations where being able to get to or away from a walker quicker would have made a difference, that's why I'm asking.
what's the correct skill build on Venator?is Glass Cannon bait?
>>560191176Maj leap is not an escape tool, what elo are you in where people aren't tagging you with literally anything after they catch you on a split?
What's the point of shiv knives when even if you rush T3 and max out the bleed stacks it's less than half a person's HP beyond the laning phase and you have to wait an entire minute to get all your knives again and it can be cleansed? What's the point of dash as a damage dealer when even with max rage T3 bloodletting and three res/health items you still get blown up by two spirit niggas who looked in your general direction and pressed 1-3?Why even nerf his stamina when his M2 movement shit is already kneecapped to hell? FaN didn't take 100 hours of scout playtime to be an actual movement tool
>>560191220You can use it when you know you're about to get jumped but before they're actually there. Also, you can use it to get to an exposed walker faster and try to beat out their rotations.
sure abrams is the face of the game and his plot is tied to a bunch of characters but in terms of personality when I think john deadlock I can't help but envision warden's unrelenting protagonist syndrome
>>560191206Punch the unclean.
>fall behind in the first 10 minutes>one white man on your team endlessly bitches, drags another white male player into a game-long catfight>they go idle in spawn while crying about teammates>(when pressed as to why he soloqueues if he is so fussy about teammates, he is silent)Why are moba players so goddamn fragile
>>560191351I'LL SOFTEN THEM UP
>>560191046Where was I complaining about him? I was making fun of you for acting like having to get close was a big deal on a character that can easily escape and get people off him when he's close. You sound very insecure. It's fine to be bad at your character, bro, so long as you're having fun.
>>560191206you can get echo shard for double shotgun double melee, the rest is gun and greens
>>560191351STICKIN' 'EM!
I can't do denials. Either my ping is fucked up or my reaction speed is horrible
>>560191779The other player is favored so it's really just catching them being lazy or not paying attention.
>new shiv ult doesn't reset the cooldown and instead just gives a recast buffer>puddle punch fucked up one of my ults>bebop hook fucked up another>meanwhile shiv also lost the impact damage on dagger>and he lost staminawell fuck this then, guess I won't play shiv anymore.
>>560191406>warden, the super serious soldier, has more personality than abramsare you on crack?
wait you can see enemy teamchat in replays el em ay oh
>>560191406Your only saying this because warden is white lul
>>5601920102026 and motherfuckers still hooking the Seven into the team.
>>560191351I TRIIEED TO BE NICE
>>560192010Seems like doorfaggots have become the biggest crybabies in the game now. Seems like it's always them bitching each game
>>560191406>LARPs a dead society in a british cop uniform>doesn't have access to firearms so uses a rebar gun
>>560192010the seven 100% knew he was gonna do that btw
>>560191891>>560192024no I mean the whole schtick about changing the world and being le one man army against the patrons
>>560192267That's not what you mean
>>560192073That's a bad example, that was not only fairly polite by almost any game's standards but a completely reasonable moment to ask your teammate what the fuckEspecially since for all we know he could have been coping in VC
>>560192010WHY HOOK AN ULTING SEVEN INTO A SMALL SPACE WITH NO INTERRUPT
>>560191406If they didn’t do the pronoun shit with Pocket he’d be John DeadlockHe has a connection to almost every character excluding new arrivals to New York since hes from high society but now lives among the criminals. His clothes and personality are also subdued enough for the generic self inserting
>>560192325Lol, said the bebopLmao
my mina main girlfriend (boy) is slowly getting better at mina!
I love Silver's fluffy hair
>>560192325I assume he's new to the character and figured it would knock him out of the ult.
>>560192323Most of /dlg/ is alchemist which is the rank they assign to brand new players so it's not hard to imagine that bebop didn't know it wouldn't interrupt channeling.
>>560192215seven ult is like witch doctor ult you let that shit ride til the very end
why are seven and victor allowed to be +60% winrate?
>>560192589Because they are easily countered according to /dlg/.
>>560192589>>560192502What are these faggoty pictures
>>560192742Mahjong Soul
>>560192407Me too, anonIt's beautiful
>>560192073Valve must have known because Doorman's "Good Job!" sounds condescending as fuck
I could RAPE silver.
Arcanist is hard I don't know what you guys are on. everyone knows what they're doing
Tomorrow I will only play m1ggers and broken characters to go on a winstreak. No more fun heroes for me!
>>560192865I don't think that's true.
I'm gonna quit this game
>>560192428Oh yeah, definitely, I even said as much in the post above yours. It's still reasonable to be baffled by it. If you're in alchemist and crashing out after finding out why then you are a sperg but in the moment and if he started coping rather than just admitting he didn't know then it's an incredibly fair reaction compared to how a lot of people would handle it.
>>560192589maybe just a little increase on the self damage with his third skill would be niceits pretty much a braindead keep on at all times thing
>>560193172Despite the increase in players matchmaking has been worse than it was before the increase. It's insane.
>>560191849>daggersthey still deal a fuckton of damag with a few spirit items, they also still stack
>>560193248What do you mean 'despite'
Graves should've had her voice more like pic related
>>560193403Perchance.
FOR THE DJINN
>>560193248I seriously don't think I want to play deadlock anymore. Standard fucking sucks and is way too confusing to the point where it feels like a good majority don't know how to play it (including me). Street brawl is the only gamemode that makes sense and that's ruined by meta slaves and shit matchmaking and worst of all the balance keeps getting fucking worse.
>>560193459Am I supposed to know what your transgender scrimblo sounds like?
You know the guy on your team who used to be a brawl gawd and was always there for the team fight?Now hes running streetbrawl over and over.yoshi took him from you.
>>560193140silver only gets raped by Mo&Krill and Billy right now.
>>560193595Actually mine for some reason became a Rem spammer that always buys egg and now has a 20ish percent winrate because he likes to rush lightning scroll???????
Feel like buying both healing nova and beam on Kelvin lately.
>>560187027There's been like two patches in the games history where she hasn't been an annoying privileged characte. Though I'll take the aoe spam and 60 second rescue ult over all the patches where she was a fucking gun carry.
>>560185062>>560185663>>560186837>>560186886it's not matchmaking it's just how the game worksALMOST EVERY GAME IS A STOMP DUE TO LEAGUE OF LEGENDS MATCHMAKING AND AWFUL HERO BALANCE STFU ABOUT MATCHMAKING!!
what music does your hero listen to?>calico>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So6oK--uP7M
>>560190081>hit scan bulletI'm convinced Vindicta's ult isn't actually hit scan, I constantly shoot at people that are right on the cross hair and the bullet doesn't always reach them in time.
>>560193979She wouldn't listen to that
I want to be able to see damage stats in game so that I can make judgement calls on who to help and who to abandon
>warden is an alchemist>his ult is like a negative zone doom gazeI don’t get it
>>560188394>>560188834I got put in Arcanist and feel bad for my friend who got put in Initiate 3 or some shitEvery single match he shitstomps everyone in the lobby but he's still stuck down thereWhenever we queue together he gets better lobbies but still, fucked
What's the most infuriating hero and why is it calico? >can instakill you>can go through tunnels and machspeed catform to get away and initiate>has multiple dashes and a free eshift that also does damage for some reason>has innate snowballing now with souls (wtf)>is black
>>560193172I've seen much, much, worse, stop being a baby
>>560194148Literally his only hope is a future rank reset pulling up up, because it seems virtually impossible to gain rank manually. I don't know if it's been changed, but it used to be that you needed to win 10 games in a row to go up a TIER of rank
>>560193172Hey was that the grey talon match I played just a few minutes ago? We ended up winning that one bro
>>560194094just wait for his remodel
i'm going to breed every rem player.be careful the next time you decide to play rem.
Learning Lash.Hes a lot of fun once you get the ball rollin.Thankfully my Billy set me up multiple early kills.
>>560194094Warden is Yamato tier placeholder, at least he's fun and funny with the 50 cent mod
>>560194470Honestly Yamato's kit is fine she just needs a less neon prime modelWarden's model is okay-ish, but it looks like a supernatural constable while the character's lore is "groomed supersoldier alchemist with no real life".
>>560194176Also there's almost no way to shut her down, even if she loses lane she always just leaves to kill whoever the poorest person on your team is on repeat until she has a million souls.
>>560193998It's hitscan for sure, the problem is there's a bug with it that sometimes gives it a delay of a few frames(not travel time like a projectile would have, it doesn't change based on distance).https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/vindicta-assassinate-has-inconsistent-delay-after-shooting.62707/
>>560194559>Honestly Yamato's kit is fineShe's awesome with the rework, her 3 went from kind of useless to "you are immortal now"
how do i get better? i'm tired of losing every game or winning while being absolutely useless. i just feel lost.
>>560193979https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR5Ki6jjPaY
>I love you Hazewhy he say dat
>>560193964I played league for years and as retarded as it was it never got to the level of this raped game
>>560194438You won't do shit lololololololol
THIS is what paige should've looked like.
>>560195446/mrg/ is down the hall
Hi I'm new to deadlock. And mobas in general.I am reading that Billy's bnb is 2131. I figured out you need to upgrade his 1 to get an additional charge, but even with the additional charge I can't seem to do it twice in quick sucession like that. What am I doing wrong
I think the biggest problem with Silver is that her ult doesn't really scale into the late game. Most ults, you press the button and so guaranteed damage or do something. But with her ult you gotta work and think hard, and you don't always get to do anything with it. Some of her wolf stats should scale with boons. Maybe it should be resists, maybe damage or fire rate. They should really keep working on her.
>>560188052What are the characters the game recommends to new players rn? I'm trying to get back into standard and I'm having zero fun rn.
>>560195838>Aaaiiieeee I have to work and think and can't just 1 shot entire enemy team for free help my yoshi
>>560195313>LGBT Tumblr art
>>560196192NTA but there being a yoshi for this game is like MK ultra mind torture for me, i basically flinch each time i read it itt
>>560195838Execute all Silver players.
>>560195852abrams and seven
>>560196331I can't play abrams and seven at all and every build I try to find either requires me to read a book while trying to find something to buy during the game or read all the annotations to even maybe understand it
They can make shiv have 1 base stamina and he will still be broken because of his passive
>>560196414>buildsJust play street brawl a while If you don't understand the items, in 2024 it was common to avoid using build guides so you'd understand the game's item, stat system and synergies better.You just need to see what other abrams and sevens are doing mechanically and emulate them for now, and also understand what splits there are in their kits.
Is there something more worthless than gun ivy?>can't do objectives>can't push waves>does okay damage to players>has to wait for ult to be useful
>>560196414Don't worry about eating shit and losing. Just play standard if that's the mode you want to play. Most people there are just as bad as you.
>>560196520>ou just need to see what other abrams and sevens are doing mechanicallyMan nobody even plays abrams or seven in street brawl
>>560196568>Is there something more worthless than gun ivy?Probably m1 rem or m1 kelvin although I feel they might have more efficacy than I give them credit for.
>>560195838Silverbabies have felt 1% of the pain that a Shiv main has felt for the past 2 years
i like when i use a skin or sound mod for my character and kill everybody but it pisses the fuck off when someone else uses my character with my skin and sound mods and kills me with it
>>560196639If Shiv players cared about him they might actually make some noise
>>560196608>Most people there are just as bad as you.My first game was a massive stomp where we lost in like half an hour man
>>560196192He didn't say that however
>>560196619abrams has the entire set of melee items and point blank in existence for literally just him, after that he does enough damage to rape everyone and can just max greens. you can finaggle things a bit with his spirit shit. the only weird shit on abrams is echo shard shoulder slam death combos. he just rapes people in the head with his revolver and uses heavy melee trickery.seven can only focus on his 1, 3, or ult for kit builds.you can use your imagination for how you'd maximize which you want to do.
>>560195650What are you doing exactly?By the time you activate 3 your 1 should be off cooldown, you can just kinda mash it
>>560195650Read what bis 3 does lil bro
>>560196679>If Shiv players cared about him they might actually make some noise
They're gonna REGRET MAKING ME MAD>*leaps 5 metres toward you*>*lands just barely in front of you and doesn't hit*>*already at half hp and have to awkwardly dash away*AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>560196619also to cont since i forgot one thing about current abrams, sometimes its funny to grab stealth items if you want to brutally rape retards
>>560196884I am stupid. Thanks. I was just upgrading the 1 since I saw it granted an additional charge lol.
>>560196943Damage taken has to be a stat that counts for MVP or something because I have consistently had useless Silvers get MVP despite having low kills and no objective damage or healing
>>560196830Honestly I use builds because I don't understand the store outside of street brawl for choosing items.
>>560197105its ok i guess but I just imagine what I feel like doing with a character and work towards it/covering any problems that come up during a match.just following build guides means you can never do the weird and funny shit.
>>560197063>Damage taken has to be a stat that counts for MVP or somethingI wouldn't be surprisedAt least in dota, damage taken is an important stat on some occasions because it can indicate how much attention you soaked. Not saying your Silvers played well, but for example an Axe with high damage taken hasn't necessarily played badly at all
I play Lash Vindicta Dynamo and I love feeding my lane
>>560196568it can be kinda okay if you take proc on hit items
>>560197105As long as you actually read what the items are (and don't just autoqueue and autobuy), you'll eventually learn what the items are and what's good and bad and what works and doesn't
I exclusively play Mina and Silver and I rigged my dildo to go off every time I die and take damage
>3 players leave the walker alone as troops are pushing it in, all so they can go brawl in mid>the walker is being attacked as they're on the zipline and not one of them changes their mind about this incredibly retarded decision>walker diesBaffling moment. What the fuck.
>>560196679TrvkePeople bitch at Silver players because they don't just lay down and take it and instead make noise about their characters getting targeted by Yoshi's nerf sniper again and again
who do i play if i just want to hold down m1 and push lanes
>>560197105Thats the best way to learn, just make sure you read the items when you buy them, even if you follow the builds strictly. You'll learn the store eventually that way.>>560195852Try Drifter.Imo kind of weak early, but once you start building stacks you will be golden. Its free damage so long as you are just around people when they die now and get the assist you will get full credit for a free permanent damage buff.Don't be afraid to poke with your 2 in lane and not commit to the teleport. Even the threat of it can make people back up.If you want someone more straight forward try Wraith. (not that drifter is super complex, but since you have to get close sometimes he can get tickled) Her update makes her really good and all you really gotta know for the cards is Heart = Heal and Joker / Spades = nuke.
Doorman is extremely fun but I don't see how this character can solo carry feasibly. Do you just split all game if your team is dogshit?
>>560197285I'm also trans btw
>>560197186The issue is they have to learn the store first. Just following builds is a good way to learn them, so long as they are reading the items they buy. Then they can be more adaptable once they have more knowledge.
>>560197214But I do autoqueue and autobuy because reading all of this shit during the middle of a game takes too long
>>560197365Wraith or Infernus
>>560197365>who do i play if i just want to hold down m1 and push lanesYou have a choice of mirage who holds down m1 until the debuff stacks and explodes dealing a chunk of spirit damageHaze who holds down m1 as the debuff stacks and does more damageInfernus who holds down m1 and causes a dot to activate which does spirit damageVenator who holds down m1 and just does gun damageWraith who holds down m1 and shits spirit damage out on cards every now and then, also she just got buffed to have infinite ammo when the 3 is maxed to better hold m1
>>560197365graves with ricochet actually braindead
>>560197504Speaking of, why does Mirage build stacks so slow?
Do you post on the forums?
>>560197285shut the fuck uuuuup
>>560197554His gun don't fire very fast, also the stacks will 70-80% people at max If he has invested enough.
>warm newfriend up on bot matches >warn him players are way harder and will punish things bots let slide >first match >we lane against a drifter that feeds 14 times in as many minutes >game ends in 20 minutes because we have twice the enemy team's souls He has an ego the size of the fucking moon after that game, he's fuckedWhy is it always a fucking drifter pulling this shit
>>560197447Then read them when you're on a zipline or somethin.I should use the auto-queue/buy more sometimes. But when I started I was told not to (specifically to read the items lol) and I just never built the habit.
>>560197647dwiftah :D
>>560197565silver please get up, this is a nice restaurant, you're embarrassing me
>>560196693I've played the game for hundreds of hours and yesterday had game that ended in 20-ish minutes to massive stomp. It happens.
Apollo's stab move should be parriable.
>>560197738counterspell
>>560197373You play a bit like Rem, steal their shit, steal it every fucking second you can once lane ends and try to figure out who the team problem child is and ensure you never let them play the game. He is a support so yeah one part of it is just getting a few on your team that don't eat crayons but after that is not too bad
>>560197554Because mark does a shitload of burst, if you could stack it up fast they'd have to nerf the damage and then he'd be much less distinct.
>>560197565Yes sometimes about things I feel particularly strongly about preservingMostly related to Ivy
>Free game>No microtransactionsHow the fuck does this game make money? Considering his much servers must cost how come this didn't get Concorded?
>>560197738It is
>>560197809how do I stop forgetting I have counterspell after buying it
>>560196943The month we had to put up with you guys going no no no guys she's really bad honest they just counter buy and walk away Silver's so meek and helpless was so fucking annoying she deserves to be this bad and soon hopefully worse.
>>560197807Are people really this stupid?
>>560197807It's an alpha playtest retardThe game survived because valve is getting free data from thousands of playtestersWhen it drops it'll probably do a F2P model with skins and such like Dota
>>560197807
>>560197807They make money off of Eternus players constantly spending $5 on the Steam store to get a Steam account unrestricted so that it can be allowed to add friends and be invited into a playtest, so that they can smurf in low ranks
>>560197807Good bait.
Paige is that one annoying co worker that you end up fucking
>>560197872This didn't happen however + you're shit + get good
>>560197809I hate this item cause as a new player I have no idea what spells can be countered and what can't yet everyone insists it solves all problems and is mandatory on every character. It's the BKB of Deadlock.
>>560197936Just made another forum thread complaining about how powerful Silver is.
>>560197807This, so much this. I feel no sense of progression without achievements, missions, and a battle pass. Valve needs to hurry the fuck up and add player retention mechanics already.
>>560197807>How the fuck does this game make money?The same way any other valve game makes money, people just buy skins and also buy steam cash to buy the skins off the market place if they can't get the skins anymore.They aren't spending as much as you think on the servers for this game. (there are a lot of live matches per server)
>>560197807It's not making moneyThe devs just don't careThis is icefrog's project and he so much sway inside steam that he can pretty much do what he wants.What's that abdul, you want to spend 5+ years developing this new idea you thought of? Sure nigga go crazy. Not like it matters since this will print money after it releases.
>>560197862If you can't get in the habit with practice then get spirit resist instead and live with the damage in exchange for resisting some other sourcesSometimes your item purchases have to be planned around your own personal playstyleI had a friend that had a bad habit of reloading when his mag was basically full so I told him to start buying active reload so that it would atleast benefit him to do so
>>560197971Oh yeah well I just made another one calling you mean names beat that
>>560198014Just sent the coordinates of Silver's developer to the IRGC.
>>560198056Thankfully for me I'm too stupid to know what that means so I don't careI win ha ha
>>560197971Do forum threads even do anything?
>>560198089Printing your post out and cum tributing it.
>>560198124>Do forum threads even do anything?They read them, they also read the messages in their discord. They won't respond to most things though, but its easier to leave a forum thread than hope a developer is paying attention to a chat.
Wardens voice is 10/10YOU’LL NEVER KILL ME
thanks yoshi for the matchmaking, this happened back to back but i didn't screenshot the first time
>>560198209the bad matchmaking thread is funny to gloss through
>>560198140You wanna be gay that's your problem, not mine
>>560198268When Geist and Holliday respawn they'll jump right back into the brawl
>>560198268Not a skill issueJust an unlucky feed that snowballed
>>560197647I swear it's always Drifters and Bebops doing this
>I'm always MVP as Geist>never MVP as anyone else except SevenHow do I get gut at this game?
>>560198329knowing g*ists they’ll just toss bombs from base spawn at them
>>560197807Related, how do you guys think they'll monetize the game?Valve is very crafty when it comes to making jewish monetizations.
>>560198482I don’t know how you mvp as her, any Geist I see gets stomped, especially when they’re on my team, they never seem to build spirit resist for her self damage and slowly whittle themselves to death in lane
Why is there some stupid gipsy bitch and a bunch of shadowy lurkers in my apartment?How do I get rid of these assholes?
>>560196943Melee characters just don't belong this game. The game is built all around guns. Melee is just extra
>>560198482>always mvp as geistif you're on bomb build it's shitlow ranks and you are still bad at the gamehit aimlabs and go gun
>>560198642Call that fella who shot the healthcare insurance ceoI think he’s got a vacuum that’ll clear more than dust
>>560198523As long as more players are in the Steam ecosystem they really kind of don't have to. Or some shit that goes to your inventory that you can trade so they get a cut for every transaction.
>>560198671Archon 3
>>560198523I hope we get cases, but I imagine we probably aren't going to get cases for this game.I liked just playing cs and being able to buy any game I want off steam with the money from selling cases.
>>560198724>>560198671>Inb4 archon 3 is shitlow
>>560198775I mean the game IS placing brand new players in Archon and Oracle...
My aim is so damn bad all I can play are casters with fuck huge skillsAnd bebop I guess
Me finding out stone form doesn't save me from my own unstable concoction
This is how it feels to use slowing hex
>bebop invites drifter to Miss Shelly’s houseR I P
Playing mo and krill and he honestly fucking sucks for me idk how people play him
>>560199227I enjoy getting infinitely scaling health from killing people with my ult
>>560195838>Most ults, you press the button and so guaranteed damage or do something.holliday would like to have a word with you bud
>>560199337I never play Mo. Do YOU have to land the killing blow, or do they just have to die while in your ult?
>>560199227Poke people with scorn constantly, run away with burrow and pocket sand
>>560198329we lost about 2 seconds after i took the screenshot, holliday had 2 kills as i recall. the enemy graves was 71k souls and had 22 kills. i really think i might kill myself.
>>560199380im playing street brawl sir
>>560196679>If Shiv players cared about him they might actually make some noiseNo they go 20/0 after every nerf and send it to yoshi with a message attached stating "nerf him again pussy, no balls" only to do it again next patch, silverfags could never
>>560199365you get stacks if target dies within 3 seconds after your ult ended
>>560199365It's either if they die during your ult or within 3 seconds after it ends, it counts regardless if the game considered it a kill or assist
>>560198268>holliday and venator jobbed to a fucking gravesyou guys deserve the loss desu
>play rem>grab a sinner in our jungle that has been sitting there for 10 minutes>"erm, you can't do that. a streamer told me so"
>>560199227I like the fact Im a speedy tanky fucker, I get to fuck with m1ggers and grab someone for half an hour only for them to rage in chat.Sure he's easy to play but you find your fun. I also like how alongside Lash they're normal guys without fancy magic tricks, just a couple of hired goons beating the fuck outta people.
>vyper goes to a striper club regularly to fuck the whores(female)This woman never ceases to amaze
>>560200041How
>>560200041paige regularly receives the old gorgon special from vyper!
played m&k against a Venator and Paige, it was nyot very fun...
>brb smoke break
>GET THEM MAURICEHow do you respond without sounding dead?
>>560200735Reactive barrier
>>560200696this is triggering my AGP...
>playing Paradox>Geist is fighting 1v2 and losing>I throw bomb and carbine to help>doesn't do much and now they're on CD>my ult is up (not maxxed) and I'm close to the fight (15m or so) so I'm thinking I'll basically just inconvenience one guy who'll be back in the melee really quick>once I see Geist is gonna die I just leave>he says in chat "Paradox feel free to use your ult any time this game"Was I in the wrong here?
Is Decay mandatory in this meta? Feels like everyone heals like crazy and has high HP...
>>560201086bad team mates are on a mission to bait you into dying with themhe shouldn't have been in a losing 2v1
>>560197373He cant.Doorman has never been able to carry. Not even when the patch first dropped and his bells were stronger. Youre entirely dependent on your team to win for you, all Doorman can do is help.
>>560192010hooks in most games are stuns
>>560201347Crippling is an extremely high value m1gger purchase now I feel likeIt offers a huge damage boost that all your teammates benefit from (ESPECIALLY if they buy any kind of bullet resist at all), big numbers from investment and an easily-reapplied anti-healHuge value considering how easy it is to just land one headshot
>>560198523it's going to be a 1-to-1 copy of dota's monetization model.
>game starts>doing well>win my lane>make big money>hoard all the urns>doesn't matter because one lane has 11 deaths total by the 10 minute markI mean I make sure to keep the soul gap as small as possible but it doesn't matter when there's one guy on the enemy team with 20k more souls than everyone else.
How do you even lane with Shiv?
>>5602017621111any questions?
So carting someone and then immediately sending them to the Baroness basically guarantees that they cant escape since the cart stun will be delayed enough to hit them while they're inside.If they have Superior Stamina though they still escape for free, even if you slowing hex them at the same time with Superior Duration extending the hex and the cart stun. Still a useless gimmick upgrade.
>>560201857If it's that easy, why do all Shiv players on my games end up 0/5 in the first 10 minutes?
>In archon>Game is a complete mess, everyone is retarded and out of position, carries feeding and blaming the team, 50% chance of stoned nigger Vic player>Everyone yapping on mic about bullshit like how cool their abilities are>We shitstomp or get shitstomped>Scorescreen says it was an oracle 2 gameNext game>Everyone runs like a well oiled machine>Carries farming, laning going well with some gains and losses>No one needs direction except to go for midboss when it's a good time>Everyone doing what they should be>Close game where it could have gone either way>Scorescreen says it was Alch 6If that's pisslow take me fucking back. I have 190 wins out of 350 games and am honestly thinking of throwing so I can be all alch
>>560202038You need to be aggressive and be good with his alt fire movement + burst damage with his knives. If you aren't willing to OTP him for a while and learn this don't bother the character is ass until they rework him. Due to the PTSD associated with release Shiv basically no one complains about this.
>>560202038shiv players like to press 1 when it wont connect on the enemy. this is a very big no-no
>Mirage or Sinclair in team>Lose>No Mirage or Sinclair in team>WinWhy are people playing these characters
>>560202318fun things are fun>but your fun comes at the expense of my funnot my problem
>>560202038Shiv is ass early and there's not much you can do about it. Once you get his core items you shit out damage over time that they wont notice until it's too late, but he has a bad lane.Went up against a rem maxing helpers first and a vindicta and I told my lane partner to just let them have the t1 early because we were getting fucked up from the aids lane combo. Sometimes it's worth knowing you're not winning lane so you can force them to overextend or not be at the creep wave
>>560202515I.. kneel... funanon...
>>560202318>Enemy Mirage rapes me>I try Mirage>Mark takes 200 years to build up and I do 0 damage during laneI don't get it
>>560202515>T. 3/15 Sinclair with 15k damage in a 50 minute game that the clearly more skilled team could not carry
>>560197565silver waiting for her diaper to be changed
>>560202832You play as this weird backline debuff carry who shoots and melts the enemy team. It can be effective but honestly he has the most underwhelming kit in the game. His entire kit needs to be reworked. His ult is ass too. The map is too small for it to have any real macro advantage, why bother when you can just play Ivy or Celeste and zoom around the map.
>>560202832you don't know to hide behind cover the moment you get 2 stacked
>>560202084High elo is full of boosted playersShitlow is full of smurfs
>>560202942I swear this ricochet build is a meme that doesn't do fucking anythingANY character could stack 30k worth of hit effects and hold m1
>>560202318I'm learning Sinclair because he's fun, I don't care about my rank and neither should you.
Doorman ult is just forced Zhonyas
>>560203525except you also take damage and have to use stamina
>>560203525Doortards always grief their team ulting a guy on 1hp
>Shiv's full name is Shivarnapurna Singh
Actually what happens is I ult the enemy team's strongest guy while he's full HP, thinking that we can kill some others while 6v5. But instead all the stupid niggers on my team stop fighting(not even returning fire, so just taking damage for free) to stare at the empty outline waiting the full duration for the enemy team's strongest guy to come out and rape us all.
Just lost a 50 minute game cause my team decided to randomly send 3 at the sidelane and walked all the way up to their base guardians so the enemy just immediately took boss. Fucking retarded
>>560204045no joke i think being unable to do anything other than front to back fights in a game like this is an indicator of low intelligence irl
I had slept for 14 hours after work yesterday so I didn't get a chance to play deadcock. I wanna boot it up badly rn but still have few hours of job stuff to get through. How do I cope bros? I wanna try out Kelvin more and maybe get a chance for a couple decent games on Graves (my wife btw, back off).
If Deadlock was an rpg who would be the companions and romance options?
>>560204220Lots of behaviors in vidya are indicators of low IQ. Just think about the sort of subsentient sleepwalker """gamer""" responsible for the AAA yellow paint meme.
>>560197872she was never good, you low elo build flowcharting tranny.she was fucking useless if you bought a singular of the followingSlowing hexing her while she's in wolf form (nice dash bucket)Plated armor in generalmetal skinArctic blastetc etcbut you retarded low elo troons are too fucking retarded to build counter items and instead go "I SIMPLY NEED MORE DAMAGE" because your mother pushed in your skull when you were a baby to use as an ash tray.
>>560204357Paige seems to be the only one
>>560204357They'll make a Hooked On You-style parody dating sim where (You) are a genetic guy who's in the Ritual for no reason. The other five members of your team is>Mascot who's also the lore dump mouthpieceRem>Two male dating optionsOne will 100% be Victor, top foidlust hero on Tumblr and Ao3>Two female dating optionsOne will 100% be Wraith. They need a brown for diversity but since it's a dating sim it won't be a fugly one like Calico
>>560204357Paige, Abrams, Wraith, Shiv, Pocket but only after a convoluted series of sidequests.
graves = billie eilishsilver = roguedoorman = jermaare there others like this
>>560204664kill yourself tf2tranny
Excuse me Paige's shield has like 1.3x scaling? AND provides Weapon Damage and Fire Rate? that ALSO scales?
>>560204908Her tits also get slightly bigger with every Spirit item you buyIf you cap out the Spirit investment bar she starts lactating on kills
>>560204908I never understood why people never builf extra spirit or boundless on her honestly.
>>560205124leagueniggers think support character means building nothing but support items
>>560203942>THE WINDOWS SUPPORT LINE HAS YOUR NUMBER
>>560202832Your first scarab mark has to be within like 30 yards but after that it's unlimited range so don't trick yourself into thinking you're building stacks shooting outside range
>>560204773I'm glad it's entered the general consciousness that tf2tards are annoying autistic spergs and tranniesI was indifferent about them until I learned that they apparently had a burning hatred for Overwatch because of some ecelebs or some shit and then I learned that they're a bunch of eceleb obsessed autists, and no I don't play or give a shit about Overwatch.
>>560205124They get told that damage is bad on her and never branch outMind you, building full damage is trolling yes but a little here and there helps a lot.
>>560204451I didn't say she was good I said you cried about her for a month and she deserved to be nerfed because of it. Hopefully they leave her in this quasi functional state and being forced to play male characters cures your AGP.
Hello /dlg/ I just got raped to death by a paradox
>>560205535no! no!!!! it should been me!!!!!!!
Deadlock is in dire need of a BLACK MAN hero.
>>560205280as someone with 5k hours on tf2, I have to agree, it's sad what happened to a once awesome community full of weirdos and spergs
>>560205618We need the big black guy from the Green Mile or a jazz singer
>>560204908It used to be a 6.4k item at max tier
>>560205701Seven should be a giganigga who learned how to use his electric chair as a weapon.
>>560204357>>560204619You don't play the game
>>560205618Infernus
>>560205757...is he not
>>560205848You don't know your dad
>>560205848
>>560206026https://youtu.be/RSSUa2qW4tc?si=n-mmUfa0ZXDcdDlV
>>560205976You know what I haven't looked very closely at his model. Idk the flat headpiece is more samurai coded than electric chair helmet and maybe that's what threw me off.
>>560205618>We need black ghetto gangster>Shieet mayne all these wypipo got me confused with all dat magic and shit, even my babymomma got sum, they finna get capped nigga. Ayo you wit me inferno or what?
>>560205701a blues musician who sold his soul to the devil would be an amazing addition thematically but i have no idea what you would do for his kit. they're adding the singer ixian lady too and that would step on his toes
I'm going to play Kelvin, buy the egg and trophy collector and I'm going to max dome and nades first to healmax, you can thank me later.
>>560205124You are LITERALLY griefing your team by buying extra spirit on Paige, you are LITERALLY killing all of your team mates and throwing the game by buying extra spirit on Paige
ok when are they adding Lennox to the game?
>>560188052Someone post the biblically accurate Mina fanart
>>560206561yeah its so bad that my shield buffs are stronger and my abilities deal more damage...
>>560206561Sorry...>>560207071I think he's making a joke anon
Anybody have a nude Graves mod that doesn't modify her proportions? Or even better, one that makes her flatter and skinnier?
>>560207042
>>560197373He's not a carry.He does less damage than before any of the changes, you're just there to facilitate progress for your team.
>>560207397>All these people that don't know Mina isn't old enough to drink and has to use fake IDs.
Real talk.What the literal fuck is wrong with the Deadlock dev team? Why are they balancing and changing the game like it's already released? There's not even a decent tutorial for new players who are joining everyday and they're just getting thrown into Emissary/Archon, slaughtered, and quitting. Holy shit.
>>560207397HERRO ME MINA HA I SELL CLOTHING YES
>helping out in a fight from the air as Vindicta>entire fight moves inside a tight building hallway>can no longer participate in the fightSuch an awkward feeling whenever I'm forced to sit out the fight and someone gets mad I didn't go in but there's not much I can do about it.
>>560208547That's so fucking racistWait until the viscount hears about this
>>560208230Are you smoking bro, they're precisely balancing like the game isn't released yet. Changes like how creeps' souls drop on the ground or medkit creeps were added unceremoniously. Big changes like the last patch that shake the meta wouldn't have happened outside of an event. They're regularly fucking with the economy (whole soul sharing slop that happened a while back) and god knows what's the master plan behind the MM algorithm.
>>560208660I think what he meant is that they should focus more on building a good structure for the game (like a good tutorial for new players) rather than more superficial things like game balancing that can be done later
>>560206348i find it very funny that the only options for "healsluts" in this game are an old man, a robot, and a bird child
>>560208110That happened years before the game, when she was going to the same school as Graves. She's old enough to have been of marrying age 5 years before the ritual when Pocket was fake-assassinated.
>>560208840nuh uh
>>560208660>Changes like how creeps' souls drop on the ground or medkit creeps were added unceremoniously.YES those were really good changes, but they're somehow ignoring the basics??? There's bugs EVERYWHERE and they're still fucking with hero changes for some reason. There's totally ignored items and items that still don't even have indicators they're active and or expiring. The game is plagued with the lack of information or just plain inconsistencies in both text or descriptions, but they're out here releasing 5 balance patches to nerf Silver? Wtf>>560208786Yes exactly.
>>560208786The devs maybe think that the amount of people currently playing the game is a tiny amount of what it will be for the official announcement+open beta, or they think that anyone that ended up being turned off by shit MM/confusing concept will check it out again. It's a maybe on the first one for me but for the second, I think gaymers nowadays move on if they don't like a game first try. Can't think of a lot of games that had resurgences after being left by players, only one I can think of outside of F2P updates for other games is Apesex Legends (and that was a Steam release).
>>560208832I detest the whole "healslut" thing and I don't understand when it became a big thing. I just like healing my bros and I thank god I don't have to play as chicks to do so in this game.
>>560209184R6, but those devs had to put in serious fucking work to revive what was an almost dead game.
>>560208230>deadlock: tutorial only teaches you how to lane, you're shit out of luck past that phase of the game>cs2: literally no tutorial>l4d2: good in game pop up hints but no tutorial>tf2: tutorials so barebones it's basically still unfinished>dota2: actually good tutorials, but the game is such a complicated clusterfuck that they couldn't possibly cover anythingare all valve games just a nightmare to get into?
>>560209364The instructions on the shampoo bottle are for people like you
>>560208832HEYJust because they nerfed her doing it doesn't mean she's BAD at it
>>560208230I guess they are holding from releasing a good tutorial because there might still be significant game changes in the future.That being said, it's kind of crazy how many things you have to basically look up. Feels like most of my mechanics information comes from watching streams and reading this thread.
When are they buffing Silver?
>>560209454If you've played a moba before its not that bad but god help you if this is the first time dipping your feet into the genre.You will have zero clue whats going on until hour 100+
the game doesn't teach you that confirming souls refunds the bullet
>>560209364Dota 2 at least had League of Legends quitters to gradually bleed into the game, and they would have no issue picking it up, besides turn rate.
>>560208786new player experience is superficial shitfiguring out how to make good design decisions is much more important than the onboarding experience
>>560209675Two more weeks (that is, two more night shifts)
>>560209675that hero does nyot need buffing, she's pretty strong and gets picked at NS
>>560209718Wasn't there an item that did that?
>>560209923I agree, that's why victor needs more buffs so he's viable on the pro level!
>>560209675Never, just cause youre a retarded furry that only plays her to jerk off doesnt mean she is bad
>>560210000Yeah but then they made it a baseline featureNice digits
I know Doorman is better against worse players now, but he honestly feels weaker than before they touched him since the cart damage was halved and ult was also cut until t2
Before the Old Gods update I would move one subrank for every loss/win, but now I am going down one subtier every ~3 losses and going up every 1-2 win. I have a terrible 45% winrate and yet I'm still going up. I have to actually start throwing if I get to get back to where I belong, doesn't seem very healthy. No I'm not making a smurf don't wanna ruin the experience for new players they already have enough of that.
>>560209454>>560209708The average casual is not going to intentionally suffer for 100 hours just to MAYBE enjoy regular matches. They're just gonna go join Marvel Rivals.We need casuals for this game to live. If anything, they're extremely good for business, and business keeps this game alive for everyone else.That said, Street Brawl is 200 IQ idea.
>>560192407I love her fluffy bush
>>560210350and yet retards proliferate throughout deadlock's lower ranks just finesame with dota and cs. both games that are not casual friendly in the slightest yet still have huge playerbasesnot a real problem my wannabe wolf of wallstreet friend
>open game>check victor patchnotes>victor still has 2 lives>close game
I look like this
is there a way to turn the deadlock minimap into static one direction wise like dota? i don't like whatever side you spawn on at the bottom and enemies always at top. it makes the map very confusing
I didn't need to see that
are there any mods to remove vindicta's ulti green circle? that shit is way too big and keeps getting in the way of my shot
>>560210054She's terrible this patch though, do you even play the game?
now that the dust has actually settled...can we admit that the new heros where all mostly flops(asides venator and rem)the characters in the august batch where all bangers, they're iconic, it's hard to imagine deadlock without mina or victor. But like apollo/graves/silver/celeste? they feel like filler characters to make the roster bigger.
>>560210658CS is a mostly straight forward fps and Dota 2's tutorial is waaaay fucking better than Deadlock's shitty one. And even at Dota 2's peak, it only reached like 1-2 million player where League legit hit 100+ million players. Dota 2 could had done even better if they just eased people into the game more, but Valve took literally 10 years to figure that out and MOBA popularity had long since passed.Why repeat that mistake again? I'm not saying make the game easier, I'm just saying don't make it a fucking struggle to get into. You lose players for literally no reason, when this game could be the best in its genre.
>>560211107ehthey're fine>filler characters to make the roster biggerwhat a dumb thing to say
>>560211107Silver is literally more popular than any of them, even in terms of pickrate
I was eating food man, I'm gonna throw up
>>560211107Silver is kino
>>560211107Silver just needs to be unnerfed.
Silver is fine after the most recent buffsits everyone else that needs nerfs
Belly rubs!
>10 deaths more than ANYONE else on the team>Still tries to farm enemy sinners and dies againWhat a fucking retar->Complains about enemy Billy being a "fuckass champion">>>championAh, I see
>>560211608I can agree with at least half of this, so I'm happy to let it slide
>>560211865>league zoomerimpressive. the game is older than most of them
>>560211252>only reached like 1-2 million player where League legit hit 100+ million players.retard who doesn't understand the difference between concurrent users and DAU/MAU
>>560211608Her ult is still worthless, it could be buffed to pre nerf stats and shed still be mid tier this patch.
>>560212015Lol hit its peak (not counting chinks) between 2015-2020 brothese are men in their 30s shitting themselves begging for a surrender button
>>560212015Kids are addicted to Roblox and that game was made when they weren't even a sperm cell inside their fathers' nutsacks.
>>560212142>these are men in their 30s shitting themselves begging for a surrender buttonHorrifying
>>560212142fuckass is zoomer verbiage
>>560211252league has never been much bigger than dota despite what they say
>>560211865any time someone says shit like this i just report them for griefing
>>560211107apollo is in a weird spot, they still need to fuck with him a bitgraves seems solid though, fills in a split push angle and a has some interesting matchups, there isn't really a character like herI havent played silver, but laning against her, she also seems to be solid, certainly requires you to play around hercelese is the only one I'm unsure about, because she seems to shine five minutes mid game and that's about it
>>560212227Quirk chungus types who get socialization from leddit and xitter make it their priority to always use the youngest zoomzoom slang so they never have to grow up
Do you think Apollo shouts "itani lo sahn!" when he cums in Graves cunny raw
why would devs make a tutorial when they're constantly fucking with the mechanics? they would need to constantly fuck with the tutorial then
>>560212287Dude le 100 million players though!!Concurrent players? Active players? What's that?
>>560212362I hadn't considered people would deliberately try to internalize a younger generation's slang to feel relevanthow awful
>>560212032>>560212287>>560212536League's daily was like 30-40 million lil bros with 100 million at least logging in once a month. That said, Riot/Tencent went out their way to build a brand for money and let the actual game suffer.I don't even know why we're arguing against shit you can just google to fact check me?????
>>560212521the game DID have a tutorial that disappeared when they swapped to the hideoutthey probably realized that it'd be making pointless maintenance work when they have actual development to do
>>560212604>fact checkThey're not facts, they're lies.
>>560212680makes sense to me
>>560212443Yes, now animate it in SFM, and add a scene where she gives birth to their half-devil child
>>560212557NTA but if you ever encounter a female office worker between 25-45 you will instantly notice how most of her dialogue options are just repeated Tiktok phrases. In other words Brenda the 33 year old in Accounting is receiving much of her interaction and language from teenagers online.Like many >noticings, once you start to notice this you will never be able to un-notice it. Every once in a while you will encounter someone and immediately sense that their word choices come from 16-year-old fandom girlies on Tumblr or other "permanently juvenile :3" spaces like certain subreddits. If you go on the official Deadlock Discord server RIGHT NOW you will see people using their irl photos as their profile pics, looking obviously late 20's or even older, but typing using lingo identical to the obviously underage kid with the Pomni pfp.
>>560211107Design wise they are fine outside of mostly being overtuned balance nightmares but I agree that there's just no topping the previous batch giving us iconic heros like Mina/Victor.
>>560211608She is fine in a way that she's unremarkable now but not abysmal. She used to be unique but now she falls into the archetype that has better characters fulfilling that role of hers. They gave her the wrong buffs at first and then wrong nerfs. The very first nerf was the only right one. I liked her more when she was fragile in human form but you pull uno reversal in the ult. Before they made human form more tanky, the biggest counter to her ult was just targeting her in human form. And the biggest counter against her ult was and still is just disenganing.Because Deadlock is a shooter and favors ranged engagements, her ult goes wasted more than any other ult of the game and not because of her players fault. It's because having melee as a primarily attack is a huge crippling effect is a shooter game. It also sucks that her ult is ABSOLUTELY Useless until you upgrade it to tier 2. No any other ult in the game is like that. You have to gimp yourself and get it first though, because it's useless without it. So you basically can't realibly ult and get any value out of it until boon level 7 if you save points, while everyone else in the game can just reliably ult at level 6.It also conceptually doesn't make sense that a werewolf character is stronger in human form than in a werewolf form. Silver is a good character made for a different game, the way she is right now after these patches, she just doesn't fit in Deadlock.
>>560212970i have a pomni pfp
>>560212680>>560212760stop fucking with the mechanics and make a good base game AS IS or people are just gonna keep uninstalling.We're all out here suffering from shitters going 1/14 in our matches, cause they don't know how to play the game...and they don't get chance to even slightly learn.
>>560213256wanna erp :3c
finna euthanize some lanes today
>>560213218>everyone else in the game can just reliably ult at level 6your humble mirage would like a word with you
>>560213256You have to be 18 or older to post on this site...
>>560213295i want a real bf..
If they just reverted the Silver nerfs from last week she'd be fine, just like she was thenThere seemed to be a lot of satisfaction with her at the time and absolutely no reason to nerf her, she quite literally only got nerfed because of neurotic tournament spergs overhyping the fuck out of her.
>>560213292>upset about regular changes and overhaulsthis is not the game for you. not only is in beta but icefrog is known for just doing that shit
Sex with Mina
>>560213351Show me a mirage play where he uses ult and it just doesn't work, I dare you
how the fuck do I even play this game I'm tired of doing nothing the entire game and losing and I want to stop being so utterly dogshit I feel sorry for my teammates
>>560211335>even in terms of pickratenigger she's literally only higher than celeste, no one likes silver outside of this echo chamber and twitter yuritrannies who probably dont play anyway.
Why are Viscous players absolute retards?
>>560213475's non-binary ex, Pocket
>>560212970But I'm 28 and I like Pomni
>>560212604The 100 million per month is from an interview with Polygon. Not fact checked, not supported by evidence, not supported by any sane reasoning. Roblox did the same thing, there's a Hindenburg Research article on it. Inflating user numbers is a good look because people take it at face value.
>>560213528They nerfed all his builds except the punch one
>>560213385Hey ;)Do you have a pussy
>>560213528rooooooolliiiiiiiing
I still feel silly that out of all the new heroes, the one I enjoy playing the most is the one I didn't vote for
ngl pomni kinda bussin i'd be dtf frfr
>>560213390The only nerf she deserved was longer cooldown or slower build up on ult, everything else was perfectly fine.
>>560213478mirage doesn't get to tard mash his ult and it's not a real powerspike. you don't get value from it right awaypick him and use his ult the moment you unlock it
Time to whip out the old classic, still true today.
>>560213928I miss the patrons addressing you in the first person
>>560213459I have no issue with changes, but I do have an issue when the texts have incomplete descriptions, multiple items are straight up neglected, and skills are and ultimates are wildly inconsistent. Dota 2 was complex as fuck on release, but at least it mostly made sense. This current game is like two years from release at the rate their going, and that's not great imo.
>>560200963two whores smoking in their workplace (dirty alley?)
The "nerfs" for victor have put him from 59% winrate to 57%... nice work yoshi!
>>560213710Now that I think about it, same here. Venator and Celeste are the two I've been playing the most, and they're the only ones I didn't give any votes to.
>>560214176um, sweaty, victor has zero picks and bans in night shift, have you tried getting good
I played a couple games of the characters I voted for then went right back to spamming drifter
>>560214176does victor still work if you just spam antiheal on him? it seems to work pretty decently in my experienceand it's not like he can do anything for the first half of the game except be free kills for the roamersif you deny farm he seems to just piss and shit and kill himself with his own abilities
>>560214362depends on the stage of the gamelategame he shrugs off pretty much everything but you can pop whatever on him early/mid and run him down
And when I say basic shit, I mean shit like this.You can't even tell that split shot and arcane surge are active right now. And the only item with a visual timer is return fire. How the fuck is this acceptable when it's been in the game like this for months and months?
>muh pro gamesYes a couple of dozen games played by a couple of dozen players sure reflect the state of the game
>>560214681make a forum post about itthe item icons already have an indicator for when they're on cd. wouldn't be too hard to have an indicator like a backglow or something to show that the item's active effect is currently active
Djin's mark should be pure damage>B-BUTshut the fuck up he has a 29% winrate
How the fuck was Dota was spared from the great soulless gook horde?
>>560214176>>560214267Yoshi and IceTard believe in a balance philosophy that's "base 90% of balance decisions on what the top 0.1% of players SAY".Doesn't even have to be objective truth like tournamenttards overhyping Silver and failing with her again and again, just what they say is enough.The other 10% is thankfully them hyper changing random heroes to shake up the meta, because the goal of "balance" is not to hit a perfect balance, it's to keep the game fresh and fun.Balancing for tournament faggots means that characters like Paradox, Shiv and Holliday are not allowed to be fully fleshed out characters because 1 thing they have is really good in coordinated play, so outside of that they have to either be weak, weird or janky, which I personally think is a terrible design philosophy.
>>560214909no cute characters and poor eastern marketing
>>560213642no :(
bros, I have been winning for 5 games, I'm scared..
>>560214936weird designs that require teamplay is fine. its a team gamenobody wants a game where every character is homogenized and diluted for the most braindead mass market retard you can imaginebasing balance on what people say is however also retarded because people liebalance decisions should be based on top level play because people below that can't be trusted to engage with the full mechanics of the game, but it should be based on objective stats and personal reasoning
>>560214790I'm somewhat conflicted about doing it, because why should I personally go through and test every single item for consistency FOR THEM instead them just doing their jobs? These are just the items I buy enough to notice something was off.I want the game to succeed, but I'm not gonna pick up a part time job for a dude making 200k nerfing Shiv. That said, I did join the forums to day, so we'll see how much they'll listen.
>>560214909Korea couldn't into team gamesChina was segregated on their own serversJapan doesn't give a shit
>>560199172miss shelly packs a shotgun underneath her rocking chair, she'll be fine
Is the game fixed or is Calico still terrorizing lobbies with her DEI extra souls?
>>560215453M1gger seething.
>>560202832Mirage has a lot of nuance that isnt obvious from first impressions Scarabs pre-rework were a bit bait to use on herps, now that creeps gives same hp its 100% bait. First you will never miss a creep, second they will consistently die under the effect of the steal, effectively converting the stolen hp to damage. I reccomend leveling this first and putting your first 3 ap in scarabs. At lvl 1, 2 creeps health stolen give you 880 hp which is frontliner teir. At t1 you are stealing enough hp to be the highest health in the game. At t2 you are stealing 500hp(which also converts to damage on the wave so you get prio ez)Tornado pre-rework was a bit bait to use aggressively, now its 100% bait to use aggressively(before you max it.) Thats not saying you cant dodge a stun while finishing someone off, its just that using it for its stun without using the i frame and evasion mindfully is a punishable strategy. The knockup it gives is not a stun btw and the enemy can still shoot/cast abilities/parry while in air. If you are playing against echoshard mirage you can stun him while lifted to great effectMark is lowkey nerfed, moving its power to t3 makes it worthless until its maxed and you have items. Some things to know about mark is that excess firerate can hurt your stack speed. If you need literally 12s to get max stacks then adding another 2s reload is not wise. Cdr is what you want to reduce the stack speed but a while back they nerfed cdr stacking so you really just want one or 2 big sources and disregard the little ones because when stacked they become negligible(enchanters for example becomes >3%) if you are gonna do the mark rush then just know you kind of suck early and need to farmHis ult is pretty straightforward but I would say just try not to hold it forever. If you have no good targets sometimes its good to just teleport to the other side of the map. There could be someone rotating to you in fog of war and you cuck them without realizing
>>560215289you literally signed up for a beta playtest. if you're invested in the game you might as well give feedbackthey're known to actually listen to shit so if you can be decently articulate and put together a nice visual concept it'll probably get in
>>560215378>Korea couldn't into team gamesBut they flocked to League, I think League took off in Korea around the time Ahri came out, she's been core marketing character of the game ever since.
I love coming here to read anons having turbo melties over game balance.Newsflash guys, there will literally never be a moment in time where you are happy with the balance and it's making most of you sound like toddlers who just had a toy taken away from them.
I dunno why people hate buying countersThey're fucking coked overpowered and watching somebody get reamed and freak out while silenced is great
>>560215571I don't consider league a game, its more of a framework to encourage masturbating
>>560215571league being most braindead moba on earth does help
>>560215602I was more or less happy with the previous patch
>>560215661Nobody wants to play "support" or buy "support items" because there's no defined roles in this game.
Ok retards besides deadlock (lmao) what's favorite game from Valve? and yes the HL1 expansions count
I don't consider DOTA a game. It's more of a framework to encourage being angry and confused.
>>560215782Would you be happy with it forever though?
>>560215843Dota is a russian daycare center for russian manchilds
>>560188052Wish Geist looked more like this. They really need to change her hair and honestly the shawl is just not even good. Color is only slightly different with the skin and it clashes a bit.
>>560215717>>560215776>nu-uh doesn't count because I don't like itI see dotards are still incapable of holding a conversation if you accidentally say one of their trigger words.
>>560215843The only reason to make this post is to deflect from the fact that you spent far too long wanking to Jynx
>>560215882No, just saying that there are better and worse patches
>Lash, Grey talon, and vindicta on the enemy team>middle of the match some guy jumps on mic to complain about how no one is buying knockdown and he has to>Abrams and I immediately ping our knockdowns
>>560215981nta but nice tryBoth LOL and DOTA are equally cringe
>Die once in lane>Wraith player (Boosted meta slave) has a mental breakdown and tells me to uninstall never play again etc etcWe won but man these meta-slaves whiny.
GYATtt
>>560214362The problem is not necessarily being able to kill the victor but being able to kill the victor without immediately dying to his stun + team afterward. It feels unwinnable if the victor gets to late game and his team isnt behind like 40k. He just runs straight at you and forces you to use spells and items on him then his team wins the fight as he respawns it's just impossible
>>560205280no it's because OW baited tard-valve into ruining the game with MyM and not fixing it for over a decade (and counting)I'm so glad for tf2c, bros
>>560216064Says the guy posting in the deadlock general on 4chan
>>560215969I did play league for good number of years, the fact that the game never changes from the same format 1 top 1 jungle say a lot.I don't see how saying it's the simplest of the bunch is disagreeing
>>560215537>using a 35 second cd skill to kill one (1) creep and nudge the wave>when any grenade hero can do the same thing pushing the whole wave and potentially harassingis this actually good? it's a great fighting tool. it boosts your damage by 10% on them and gives you a health buffer to guarantee a won trade. its almost as good as paige throwing a shield on someone and then tradingwhat do you think of maxing scarabs? I've been playing him and noticing that while the t3 passive is a huge powerspike, it doesn't actually help his ability to fight that much. I'm pretty sure a maxed scarab would do the exact same thing to his kill potential while making him tanky as fuck AND it'd even have a lower ttktaking 1500 max health off someone with 3 scarabs is as much damage as a full stacked mark, except it also gives you 1500 max health to brool with
>Tf2troons seethe at Overwatch>Dotards seethe at league >Half fags seethe at the mere mention of the number 3 >CSfags seethe 24/7 What's with Valvefags being angry all the time?
>>560215532All the m1gger characters are still strong though.
>>560215843It's a great game but all great things come to an end
>>560216220valve stop making games so they all feel shunnedeventually all the hate will move to deadlock as the new daddy's favorite
abrams is so fucking easy compared to the rest of the cast like its not even closeno matter how my lane goes or how well I do I smack em into a wall and press melee and I provide value or straight up 1hit their carry while being 10k souls behind, or just use ult to stunbehind as mina/venator/drifter/silver/graves/warden/seven and its actually over, either need to go to the cuck jungle farm pen to try and salvage or pull off some godly lvl 0 mistakes aim plays to get the value i get outta abrams apeing
>>560216220A lot of people who play Valve games heavily tie their identity to Valve games for some reason, so they get unreasonably angry towards of potential competitors.They will probably also turn on Deadlock if it gets too popular for their liking like this guy said >>560216347
>>560215814But the "support" items make you do more damage in this game
>>560216541skill and difficulty is a meme to begin with
>>560216347I still dont know how anyone works at ValveI would never be able to respect myself as a creative if I sat around never finishing anything
>>56021664790% of creatives do exactly this
>>560215661Overbabbies and lolbabbies can't mentally process using more than 4 buttons.
>>560216615i dunno but i got rank inflated to mid archon off a win streak, if i play abrams I can pretty much compete, play mina which im tryinna learn and if i fall behind its actually over, basically become a ranged creep, sucks for the elo terrorism but I have to keep playing, game really needs a normal queue for learning heroes >>560216647they probably get 150k a year for not doing anything and occaisionally grabbing some asian food and artisinal seattle coffee so I'd say I'd learn to live with it
>>560216647>Do nothing but update steam>Maybe make a couple cosmetics for cs and dota oh and some balance changes to dota and deadlock and ignore the rest >Chill and playtest the already finished hl3 and laugh at everyone who expected a hl3 reveal in the game awardsMy dream job unironically
>>560216761I haven't played League in like 7 years and their item list is depressing They somehow have way less actives than when I quit.
Good 1v11 heroes?
>>560215814considering them support items is bizarre. most of them make you win 1v1s incontestably I regularly pick up multiple hate items as drifter because there's nothing you can do when you're silenced and disarmed and someone goes on youpeople should love buying counter items because they cause people to just fucking die and the majority of players are strategically bereft broolers chasing kills all game
>>560216967victorhaze or infernus if you have a >90% aim accuracy
Is the innate CC reduction for all negative effects or just stuns/slows?Do silences, disarms, and dots get reduced?
>>560213776kek
>>560217134Victor can't 1v11 anymore.1v3 at best.
Why did a cute and heterosexual ship beat all the queer pairings to become the most popular Deadlock ship?
>>56021733460% winrate would disagree
>>560217356Silver x Venator is too powerful for the pleb artists
>>560217356The power of highschool romance>>>>>>gay shit
>>560213928>*distant gunshots and screams*Without a doubt, the most kino part of any Valve game that has it
>>560217356women love twee shit like highschool romances and women are drawing all the fanart
>>560214903HE'S REALLY GOOD IN PRO GAMES DUDE HE'S REALLY BUSTED IF YOU CAN AIM HE'S REALLY SLEEPER OP THAT'S WHY I NEVER PLAY HIM AND IF I DUDE I'D LOSE LAMO
i want to grab graves' hair and also grab hold of her head/face and then use my bare hands to scalp her and then when i see skull, i punch it
Morice should start humping the opponent during ult instead of punching them.
>>560216202>taking 1500 max health off someone with 3 scarabswtf i thought they didn't stack on a single target
MAGIC SUWWOUNDS US
>>560217640I can take every inch of his big moleman cock
>>560217665Hp steal stacksThe bonus damage debuff gets refreshed each new scarab
>>560217665They don't.Mirage is total shit, but in fairness people still trying to build him gun are dragging him down further
>>560217509Silver definitely says nigger
>>560217694I'm grateful for every game I don't have to hear her voice
>>560216202You want to scarab different targets to stack the hp over the same duration, the same target just refreshes the steal. the reason I prefer creeps over the heros is because of previously stated damage realization. If the steal expires on the enemy hero then they regain the hp, on creep there is a 0% chance it expires before the creep dies compared to a very high chance of hero survival. To answer your question of grenade heros, before this patch doorman bell t2 was the best "nade ability" and I think it did 220 dmg? Don't quote me on that. Anyways realizing the steal as dmg on the wave is way more once with minimal investment, and that is disregarding any value gained from the extra hp you are trading with.You definitely want to rush rapid recharge early because that will get your cd under 30s and you will be stealing +750hp every cycle
>>560217665>its trueno... its so over...
>>560217392He's down to 53%, anon.
>>560217941>You want to scarab different targets to stack the hp over the same duration, the same target just refreshes the stealThis isn't how it works now. You just get the full hp steal when the scarab hits a target instantly
>>560215969I played all mobas. Riot are incapable of balancing shit and they are autistic about keeping a set in stone meta be the be all end all of every single game. 1-1-2 jungler will always be enforced and their cringe bandaid fixes even if already removed like anti laneswap mechanics shows they don't want alternatives to how you should play the game
im so fucking tired of ivy viscous in every game with their super sized aoes just carpet bombing you from africa while applying 50 different statuses on your holy shit
Ricochetbros... DoDbros.... we are forgotten....
>>560217509Yamato says it without knowing it's a slur.
I actually think you should go to prison if you play Mo in street brawl.
>scarab is still so ridiculously convoluted two schools of thought have emerged on how it functionsRework the goddamn spell
>>560218204>I went to the shitting street and there was shit!
>pick shiv>game starts>hit his dinky little knife>imperceptible damageare you for real?
>>560218282It should be weaver bugs but for magic resistance
Never liked League cuz the roles felt too defined in Dota the game felt more flexible ,you could take jungle camps as you pleased and the Warcraft legacy was more obvious, but I only played it for 150 hours. In the end the whole dichotomy was always incomprehensible to me. Thanks for reading my blog.
does anyone else have difficulty telling if your lane partner parried someone or got parried?i basically just treat it as a 50/50 and either melee or try and parry for them (i always guess wrong)
>>560217941alright, I'm sold. I've just been putting it on anyone who gets 2 stacked then chasing them down like an unga bunga retard to get the 4 stack with bonus damageI'll give it a shot. his laning is great in that trading with mark always makes drawn out pokes go in his favor but I've been lamenting how garbage his ability to shove lane is. I've been trying to autistically ping every creep to try and 2 stack them in order to keep lane moving forward, but its impossible to do that while also harassing the enemy
>>560218092So it works on the same target? The duration is was referring to was the duration of the buff, not the debuff
>>560218204I pick random in brool though.
>>560218391modern dota 2 is way more like league than it is like wc3 dota
When are they adding a time traveller hero with disruptor's glimpse and weaver's ult?
>>560218204GET'EM MAURICE
>55 minute game>wipe enemy team and get rejuv>our 80k Seven goes off to farm the jungle instead of pushing>we lose
>>560218601And both are closer to HotS than WC3 Dota. For all the shit people(and I, admittably) gave that game, I can't deny the influence
>>560218204WE HAVE YOU NOW
>>560217509Isn't it early 20th century, how bad was the niggerword really back when segregation was a commonality.
>alt f4 after dying 2 times>game will not be scored, safe to leaveTHANKS FOR WASTING 10 MINS OF MY FREE TIME FUCKING RETARDED COMPANY
>>560218787nigga wtf are u talking abouthots didn't influence shit? xd
Is it me or have AOEs gotten really big for some reason this patch? Feel like half the time I'm just getting chunked by shit on the floor rather than people actually targeting me
>>560218204YOU MESSED WITH THE WRONG TEAM
>two teammates disconnect the second the game starts>game is now safe to leave but will be counted as a loss>next game >enemy disconnect after feeding in lane>game is now safe to leave and will not be scoredOk what the fuck is wrong with this game
>>560218881Hots is influencing Deadlock right now, not our fault you've only played 1 game and don't see it.
>>560219018were you in my game? >>560218819
>>560218204street brawl is only good for beginners learning how to press buttons and for zoning out with random dm, it is not to be taken seriously
>>560218926>>>for some reasonbecause they increased the radius of every fucking thing for some undiscernable purpose?
>>560218926Spiritranny patch instead of based gunchad or meleeGOD patch
>mfw I victor all over the enemy team but it's just not good enough
>>560219076.... in what way? shared currency with no lasthit gold? yeah hots definitely inventer pioneered and revolutionized thati played hots, it was cool but it died quick and it didn't influence shit, MOBA with no individuality doesn't work, people wanna get 1v9s in this genre
>>560219098Did they actually? I must've missed that. It just feels so boring to vomit aoe all over the floor instead of aiming at people
>E6 games>Banned heroes Mirage and BebopEU hours are weird man
>>560219080No, this happened yesterday and I was too mad and baffled to post about it
>>560217356Because it's an ugly girl punching way above her weight. Apollo is the clavicular of deadlock, he should be with a stacy
>>560218795Finally, my area of expertise: It was obviously not a death sentence as today, but it was frowned upon to a large extent and even in some ways similar to today, but for entirely different reasons. A good book before I begin on this is "The Peculiar Institution", it's the tl;dr and my primary source.Negro was the preferred term because it was not considered impolite or ungentlemanly. Black was not because it gave the connotation of a skin color, not race. Nigger was still a kind of taboo but more akin to cursing around children, ie something that shouldn't be done in good company, not explicitly wrong. It was agreed the word was bad but not because it offended negroes but because it was impolite to use. Southern America in particular preferred to think of slaves as their "burden", their "responsibility", or as animals, or as any number of things to help their case internally or externally, so using nigger implied a level of vitriol they did not care for. It would be seen like somebody kicking a dog where people infer you are being wantonly cruel to something that knows no better. Good book too
>>560219258Bans in this game are even more retarded and obviously rigged than in dota.
>>560219340He should be held down and brutally raped by Drifter.
I downloaded the white calico mod so fast holy shit she's finally playable
I think all mods should be bannable
>>560208832paige is a fantastic healslut because barriers beat heals every time. sadly women don't know how to play this so the only paige mains you see are autistic european men
i played as agressive as possible and dived 24/7 but ended up with the most player dmg so i guess i had impactany mina players, do you guys hold m1 or tap m1? i guess u wanna tap in lane to make sure u don't miss any shots but late when u have 2 ways to reload u wanna hold and track for dps
>>560219615Mods are cheats.
>>560209195I want more save supports add dazzle or oracle. save support is such a cushy middle manager role
>>560219767Please no, I want less supports. All supports in this game are complete failures when it comes to game design
>>560219723oh okay 2nd most mb...doorman ultid me about 10 times
>>560219615How am I supposed to stand playing against Mina and Celeste without their BBW mods, hmm?
>>560219225Deadlock takes on a lot more of the casual aspects of HotS with more emphasis on brawling and fighting the enemy players directly rather than Dota's overall slower and more farm-heavy gameplay.This is very evident in how souls, denial/confirming work and the overall power outputs of each hero.
>>5602197231 fucking win after that loss shitshow and im back to archon 3 from 2 JUST LET ME DERANKKKKKK THE ONLY HERO I CAN PLAY AT THIS LVL IS ABRAMS
>>560219727What about no hud mods? Thats like a reverse cheat
>>560219615How am i supposed to play all these pocs they put in the game if i can't make them look white and pretty?
Does Holliday need a buff or a rework? If latter, what would you change?
>>560219404Informative post on the topic of niggerology, to add to this in North Europe negro only started really being considered offensive around 40~ years ago before that it had the same neutral tone as you mentioned. So that would likely make Kelvin a negro user.
>>560220096Replace her jump pads with a lasso that works identical to bebop's hook. Replace her ult with mccree's ult from overwatch
I'm done with work for today. Taking a fat shit right now, thanks for asking. As I had said before, I badly wanna play Kelvin and Graves but might take a quick nap before hand. God I love Graves.
>>560220023All mods for all games are cheats.
>>560220291nice blog, fgt
why are all voicelines so shit in this game, for example i want to pour boiling oil in my ears whenever paige says anything
>>560220291athletic girls are extremely ntr codedand that's a good thing
>>560219018MOBAs attract unstable manchildren. All games do, really, but you notice it more in mobas because you're stuck with a manchild for 40 minutes.
>>560220291graves is built like a twigthis is vile
>>560220096She really just need better gun, especially during late game. Just enough to where I don't have to go full spirit and be a lassobot all the time. Would make her a lot more well rounded too.
has yoshi or any dev confirmed how many heroes they want at launch? we have 38 thats more than what overwatch, rivals, apex, smite and HoTS launched with but i don't think they are done adding characters and i doubt the next batch is just going to be two new heroes
>>560220463kill yourself you embarassing cuck-obsessed niggerfaggotfucking waste of space and oxygen
>>560220096>cowboy with donkey kong barrels and a bounce padHero labs abomination needs a total redesign
Brutal snuff sex with Mina where her begging and pleading for her life is abruptly cut out when her neck gets snapped a clean 180 degrees
>>560219615Nothing worse than getting a deadlock clip on my feed and all the characters are modded to high hell with the shittitest looking skins
>>560220632but she is a vampire that will not kill her
>>560220486My bad, here you go
>>560220504Addendum: and while they could increase base dmg, they don't necessarily have to do that. They don't need to make holliday hitscan either but I would make her shots more accurate so she does more consistent damage, increase bullet speed, fire rate, decrease reload times, spread, crackshot CDs. She's supposed to be a cowboy but feels like a stormtrooper half the time. And it ain't aim or positioning, I'm just being real.
>>560220632...by my Hero CHADams.
>>560220096remove bounce pads, make her more of a m1 carry with utility ult
>>560220096>MUH HEIRLOOM LEGENDARY REVOLVER>throws barrels, jumps around, lassos people>and headshots from time to time, I guess
>>560221047He's built for being gentle femdommed by 100 y/o geist pussy
Graves has a cute feminine penis
>>560220504>>560220996
Just learned that ult voicelines are different if you ult at low health.
>>560221147She should get bullet ricochet that works similarly to celeste's projectile bounce/homing effect to at least make laning funnier, especially if it plays western PCHEW stock sound effects every time a bullet ricochets near you
please let the spirit meta end...
>>560221347I don't understand.
>>560221391not just ult voicelines, other ability voicelines too
>>560221391I'LL HIT AS MANY AS I CAN
>>560221391YOU MISSED YOUR CHANCE TO KILL ME
>>560221391THE HEAVENS BOW... TO ME
>>560221391THIS ENDS WHEN I SAY IT ENDS
>>560221415>I don't want to use abilities in my MOBA>I only want to shoot gunsGo play Counterstrike, faggot.
>>560217356because the vast majority of people alive are straight, and this happens in every majority-male fanbase ever
>>560221696id like it for abilities to require aiming rather than just tossing it on the floor and it occupying the entire lane
dynamo 2 changes are crazy
>>560219525this tbdesu
>>560221739nah thats gayleague brained "everything should be a skillshot" design philosophy
>>560221867I wouldn't mind more point & click stuff like M&K or doorman ult either, actually. I just don't like the super sized aoes this game has.
Sex with Silver
>>560221867>it's bad because League did itI guess having hot women in the game is bad too
>>560194583Buy slowing hex and suddenly she loses all of her abilities besides the bombs. People really need to buy support actives more.
>>560221945faira ton of radius buffs were handed out recently. its definitely too much now
>>560221739>Ability Range increases removed from the game>Mystic and Greater expansion removed>Items that previously increased range in their main stats, conditionals or actives now increase duration insteadFixed.
>>560222017don't touch my +2m nades on kelvin, he needs it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbCMda1wJPU This is what Deadlock is missing. We need emotes.
what in the fuck is this DPS took 1.5k dmg from his gay ass trail
>>560222086>now increase duration instead12 second singularity30 second afterburn
>Reduce Base radius by 1m>Increase upgrade radius to +3m bigger than before What did Yoshi mean by this
>>560222201Why is every embarrassing webm always a drifter or abrams
>>560220096Definitely rework her.Everything about her is about her being a sheriff with a priceless gun on a revenge quest but her gameplay is her spamming barrels of tnt, 90% of the time you're gonna meleeing them from the air after you use your jumppad (why does she even have this?).Her only mechanics involving her gun is shooting barrels, which you rarely do, and crackshots which is just a ridiculously long cooldown headshot.Her lasso makes sense thematically but mechanically it makes no sense, Holliday wants to keep her enemies away from her but her ult put them in melee range of her.I would rework her to lean more into her gun, give her some aoe, her 1 could still be an aoe cone where she rapid fires with her gun and rapidly reloads (does not consume ammo or trigger a real reload). Or keep an explosive tnt stick in some fashion.Her jumppad does not fit the character in the slightest, some other type of mobility like a short duration horse riding or something with some mobility quirks.Crackshot is okay-ish, either a soft rework if they change her 1 and 2 or a big one if they keep her barrel and jumppad.Lasso I'm honestly not sure, maybe with a close range ability it can stay as is, maybe something like Silver's bola would've been a better fit but that's taken now obviously.Just at the top of my head at the moment.I don't dislike Holliday's current 1 and 2 but I feel like it definitely should not be on the revenge quest serious sheriff character.
>>560222201Literally HOW DO I COUNTER A STOVE
>>560222201been seeing alot more nigfernuses after the patch
>>560222239it means that you have to choose where to spend your AP instead of following a retarded flowcharta lot of power was shifted to 5AP upgrades
>>560222201>chasing dashfernushehehehheheehhe... you see dat shit?
>>560222017And there's just so much lingering shit on the floor too. I don't care that something like gutshot or pain battery can be massive but I don't like how there's so many floor effects that CC you now.
>>560222201>2 greens>didn't even hit the green breakpointthis isn't even mentioning you literally walking on the trailyou deserved this
>>560222286her gameplay is cool >muh cowgirl conventional tropeswho cares. she has a unique kit and the whole jump pad rape combo is the most interesting implementation of the "high mobility gank hero"its likeevery single holiday hater props up all their frustration of not getting a sharp shooter cowboy onto hating her kit and its unwarranted
>>560222201I mean you literally stepped on his retarded little trail but I agree that seems overtunedI had a game against this nigger where he dealt me 500 damage from everything else and 4k damage from the trail
>Run on lava>Why are my legs melting
Say it with me anons: I love Graves!
>>560222668imo they should make the trail more visible compared to the ground, in teamfights its hard to even noticefor something that does giga dmg its rly muted, no wonder newcuties are inclined to chase into it
>>560199463you typed this as if shiv players were played by cool chads and not eunuch zoomers
is the Victor seethe astroturfed by drifter subhumans who want to avert attention from this gamebreaking cancer?
>>560222883the only people who play shiv are tier whores and that guy who started doing his hair in a pompadour and wearing a leather jacket because how much looks up to shivand shiv is not top tier right now
>>560222379They need to bring back portraits for character select this art is a lot more soulful than Nigfernus' portrait in game, and it actually shows his cocky side.
>>560222890>murders youI love visiting new york... heh...
>>560222824Sex with Graves!
>wake up>open deadlock>play 2-3 brawls>pick victor>win them all>repeat everyday What a lovely day.
>>560222201>killed by his own greed>why hot floor so OPkek
>>560222594Her gameplay does not reflect her design at all.When people see characters like her they expect a rather traditional kit to go with it but they get gameplay that doesn't fitIt would be like if Kelvin, the ice guy, didn't have a slow, people expect it for a good reason, and that's just the theme fitting.
>>560222890Kek, don't forget the cuckold mark anon, it does 30%+ of your health in free damage for hitting the low cooldown almost hitscan "skillshot" that also teleports him.
>>560223235...while KEKpollo watches.VenatorGOD btw.
>>560223267the argument basis that every design has to be derived from a tvtropes page is lame. only allowing ideas from the well of most cliche cliches makes for uninspired, uninteresting designs and I'd prefer creativityshe has a gank kit and shes a travelling sheriff on the hunt. it reflects her design finethe cartoony acme barrels and jump pads are silly but deadlock is already rubberhose as fuck. look at abrams and his giant cartoon detective gun
>>560223623My only problem with Holliday's kit is that she almost never has a reason to actually shoot her barrels. You know, like some kind of trick shot
>>560219340apollo has castrated himself? damn he down bad frfr
>>560223623Why are you being a dishonest faggot for no reason?
>>560223870they should have an extra effect if you shoot them to detonate
>>560222201average driftard
need bf with a jax pfp for my pomni pfp to play deadlock with
>>560224313do u have pussy?
>>560223623Yea you can think that but I'm telling you why a lot of people don't like Holliday and her design and kit not matching is a big part of thatOn top of her kit being janky and weird
>Be me>Playing normally on Shiv>Game going really good, like 80k to 60k souls>See our Dynamo type "?" out of nowhere>"Why">"Why steal?">"Im not doing bad either im 3/0">Uh oh>No idea what happened, I was pushing green>Nobody else types anything>"Fine I will wait for it to respawn">He goes to the enemy yellow side sinner box spawn>Enemy team finds him there and kills him>He goes there again and afks for a while>The sinners respawns>Dynamo tells our Venator to go hit it for him three times to pay him back>Venator calls him a retard and to kys>Dynamo doesn't leave the sinners>Tells Venator to go hit the box for him three times or he won't play>Venator goes on /all and tells the enemy team our Dynamo's location>They go there for free kills>Each time Dynamo respawns he just goes to the sinners box and asks Venator to hit it for him>Venator stops at mid to type and dies while typingJust like that a guaranteed victory turned into a loss because two of my teammates had a random chimpout. Incredible stuff
>>560222286>1: omnidirectional physics-based dynamite stick that can linger for a bit of time. can make dynamite chains or big burst provided enough charges and duration but no longer explodes on contact.>2: lasso. significantly lower duration but can lasso both enemies and allies. works like beam so you can chose to bind someone in place or pull them towards you. bound allies can still attack for obvious reasons.>3: can lasso herself upwards like Lash, but with geometry instead. keep the stomp.>4: ultimate - auto headshot guided bullet single target point n click. passive - bullets also deal spirit damage and ricochet to the nearest target when firing at oblique angles for significantly reduced damage. t1 increases gun reload speed, t2 increases fire rate, t3 increases ult scaling and reduces cooldown.
>>560223870It's very on brand for the Hopoo guy to come up with kits that make no sense, which is fine in RoR because in that game you eventually become so powerful that it doesn't matter what abilites you have, you're gonna one shot everything regardless.However, in this game, it really shows how little thought he put into it. Her 1 and 2 are the only abilities that synergise with one another, whereas the 3 and 4 are just kind of there to give cowboy flavour.
>>560223235nose too small but pretry good art anyways
>>560224502autist meets bigger autist
>play standard mode>1v2>play street brawl>1v4Damn this game is fun guys. might go back to playing chess
>>560224502ngl stealing Sinner's is a nigger move no matter what and Dynamo is based for choosing to have a melty over it instead of letting M1ggers think every resource on the map belongs to themSo far the only times I've encountered anyone bitch about killstealing has all been M1ggers btw
>>560220274you make me sick.
>>560224573>barrels dont synergize with lasso>jump pad doesnt synergize with lassoOk pal
>>560224419peole don't like holliday because she's the hardest char every game has this
>>560222239they're slowly shifting the game design to skilltreeslop by making all abilities useless until maxed
>>560219083I hate moba niggers so much I will q moba mode and then leave at 5:10 when I'm ready to get off for the night. Sometimes I'll log into my smurf and do the same thing immediately afterwards. Enjoy the free loss retards. I hope it becomes impossible to find a moba match. Brawl is pvp mode. Moba is pve.
Holiday Not The Hardest Char She The Char That Make Me Hardes
>>560224380no..
>>560224731Between a Venator and a Dynamo I know who I would prefer getting the sinners buffs on my team.Venator might be rude but dynamo is clearly the bigger faggot.
>>560224502Don't be a stealing nigger you have to treat retards like it's prison otherwise they keep doing it. Dynamo did nothing wrong.
>>560224502Shouldnt have taken the sinners bitch boy
>>560224573>Jump on pad>Better view>Can headshot or ult mid-air
>>560224768Huh, I just don't see it, maybe I don't play enough holliplease enlighten me
>>560224419people saying it doesn't match are coping because they saw a cowgirl character, wanted a sharpshooter, and came up with seethe when they didn't get itit makes sense, it just doesn't fit into a specific box
>>560224887Not the point, if someone is already doing a Sinner's and you run by and steal the last hit you are the biggest faggot by default>Between a Venator and a Dynamo I know who I would prefer getting the sinners buffs on my teamYou aren't playing in an esports league M1gger, you don't own the map
>>560224768>the tiny barrel knockup synergizing with lassoReally reaching>movement ability synergizes with a drag abilityCongratulations, you've passed the basic requirement for a character with a drag ability.
>>560222976if that guy didn't replace his arm with a wooden prosthetic he's a fake and a pussy
>>560224916Dynamo and Venator combined to make the match a waste of time for everyone else>>560224923ESL or speedreader? I was playing Shiv, i wasn't the Venator retard
>>560224796I really enjoy playing Holliday it is fun as hell. But because I'm not a human aimbot headshot artist I don't do as much damage as others and she isnt as impactful. It's not really characters fault I guess, but it does sometimes feel like her skill floor for impactfulness is a little high compared to others.
I don't like playing Holliday because she has a bad personality.
>>560224517Vindicta but bad
>EU hours>thread turns into /lgbt/ speed dating and fantasies
>>560225112>Just accept other people stealing your shitNo, rather give the win to a team that isn't full of kleptomaniacs. Also other anon wasn't directly implying it was you.
>>560224502Going afk for the box to respawn is cringe but demanding the thief go back and pay back the HP tax boomerangs back around to basedgod territory
>>560225001>people saying it doesn't match are coping because they saw a cowgirl character, wanted a sharpshooter, and came up with seethe when they didn't get itWell... yes?It's what people expect to get when they pick the cowgirl character with a revolver and are justifiably letdown when they don't get it.Is that weird to you?
>>560225112"um actually it wasn't me it was someone else but it really happened!!!"Sure thing bwo
>i want a shittier mccreeyoshi here, kill yourselves
>>560225201I think you meant vindicta but kino
>>560224887>NOOO IM THE CARRY ALL THE CAMPS AND BOXES AND FARM IS ALL MINE MINE MI- ACK!!!
Im surprised it wasnt him throwing a shitfit considering he was playing shiv
>carry gets mad other carry stole the goodies first
>>560225286being disappointed by its fine but acting like because her kit isn't what they expected, that the kit is therefore bad and nonsensical, is just being an entitled chimp
>>560224916I think willfully griefing over less than 500 souls worth of stats is doing something wrong
>burger hours>Sex with Venator
>>560188052>deadlock players: sniping map resourced from their own team>TF2 players: both /kill-ing out of politeness so the other can have the ammo boxWe are not the same.
>>560225039>>560225085Never said I do it, I usually play support too. I just don't think its worth throwing a game with a 20k lead over because I'm not a thin skinned little faggy baby.
>>560225478If you steal as much as half a soul from me without apologizing I'll crash the match with no survivors.
>>560225630>Moba players all act like niggers: more at 11
>>560225630>I'm not a thin skinned little faggy babySo true, a REAL MAN lets others take his sinners and THANKS them for it.
>Be Abrams>Build a lot of green>Stay in the middle of the teamfight like a turd just shooting and punching whatever the fuck>Survive with 100 HP and the entire enemy team dead Damn. So this is what's like to be a big blue train.
>>560225085You can hit people with barrels while they are lassod. How dense are you?
>>560219404neat, good post
>>560225776Build some purple too. Range extender + escalating exposure + uhhh idk cooldowns. Grab Witchmail and you have permanent S1 uptime making you an even more unkillable giganigger
>>560225778And it's gimmicky bullshit and feels awkward
First time I looked at bebop I though "Oh thats Blitzcrank" and then I realized he's also the combination of Veigar and Vel'koz making the most seethe inducing character ever
>>560225893liggaleyenda!
>>560225893I wish there was a character has as interesting as Velkoz
>oh nooooooo my venator and dynamo are throwing i can't possibly carry this gamepussy
>>560225865Victor with extra steps.
>>560225771Random people online are going to be dicks to you no matter what, if you can't handle it then don't waste everybody elses time playing a team game.1 guy is a dick to you, so you punish 4 other innocent people trying to win because you are an entitled baby. Go fuck yourself you bitch.
>>560225893Nah if he was Veigar he'd be fun to play
>>560225871not at all>but it does for meone step on the path to developing theory of mindyknow, most people start on that around age 4
>be Calico>buy Lifestrike>go in a fight>press 2>full HP>press 2>full HP>press 2>full HP>somehow get melted down so 2 isn't off cooldown>4>wait>press 2>full HPwhat the FUCK is this nigger character literally impossible to win 1v1
>>560188052>TF2 players: epic funny killbinds (never gets old amirite? XD) and le wholesome friendly conga trains>deadlock players: tbagging and flame warsWe are not the same. [spoilers]and I say this as a tf2 player[/spoiler]
560226154bait
>>560221391I WANT YOUR SOUL
>>560226016Cut him some slack he's a Shiv.
>enemy team>ivy>victor>kelvin>paige>drifter>grey talonactual aoe slop team comp holy fuck
>>560226202Yeah you're right, I don't play tf2 anymore.
>>560223267does ice slow you in real life?
>>560225696NTA but i think its situationalIf you are 0/10/2 and permafarming jungle im gonna take your shit because you are a useless shitterIf you are doing even halfway decent then i will treat you as a human being
Sinner boxes belong to whoever starts hitting them first/thread
>>560226370Walk on ice with the same speed and stride as you would on dry asphalt and you'll have your answer
67% winrate with seven
>>560226146the humble, hard working initiate, scything his fields the honest wayno countertools for him. only pointlessly back breaking labor
>>560226494Obviously. Throwing a game and screwing over everybody else on your team because 1 guy stole it from you is a tiny dick move too
>>560226553SIX SEVENNNNNN
>>560224502singaporean behaviour
>oh my god i think that cat is her only friend that is so sad mina sounds like she's projecting :(
>>560226494gee I wonder who could be behind this post?
>sinnersboring and no real gambling aspects>jarsnoozefest objective>midmost boring hp meat sack everjungle and other subsequent reworks can't come sooner
>>560226576nah ur gayact like a nigger and ill throw
>>560226957>gets sent to low prio>every single game is full of turbo sperfs like yourself
Started playing last week. I've been enjoying Mo and Krill because I used to play Legion Commander a lot during my Doto days. Also very easy to escape as M&KI'm Seeker 3 but I can consistently get MVP most matches and carry weaker people if they put some moderate effort to play with the teamAny tips for when to jungle? I rarely try to jungle, I just push my lane and then I try to help my team with fighting and pushing lanes early. I would like tips on movement but I don't think there is much that can be done playing as M&K
>>560224579The big nose is hot, I agree.
im at shitter ranks where nobody takes sinners so you better believe im sending my gremlins to steal every one i walk past
>>560227080idc nigga its a game
>>560226542that's not a slow though, that's a loss of friction and balance.Ice elements in vidya should discombobulate or slide around enemies
>>560227238If you don't care why tantrum in the first place?If you don't care why play at all?
shit. the egg is redpilling everybody on the strength of buffs. my golden statue routes are going to become contested.
>>560227093If your wave is advanced early on it's a good time to do the nearest shitty camps and break some boxes
>>560227474I do carestealing my sinners has consequences and I know the best way to make you seethe is to throw the game therefor I wont care
>>560222824Graves is for older women who will abuse her
>>560226576>If someone fucks with you, you should just accept it because fighting back could be disruptive and that's badUnironically cuck mentality. This is the same mindset that is letting Paki rape gangs go wild in the UK
Lasso should tie you up like a cow on the ground so everyone can fuck you up.Either that or the lame way of making it so the enemy tajes damage by distance traveled.
>>560227093Its kind of like dota but jungle is way worse than lane creeps. You want to be in jungle if there is no lane to farm. Boxes and golden statues are also important. Push wave safely, farm backwards, meet wave when its back on your side of the map is the basic loop. I also try to farm towards my team but fights break out way quicker in Deadlock than Dota so it feels awkward.
I have the feeling Holliday gives the best blowjobs.
>>560227805>>560227652Enjoy low prio children
>>560227948>3 husbandswell she's def the most experiencedcept mby vyper that blows men for 10$
Bounce pads should be removed from the cowboy and given to an expedient hedgehog who is not trademarked as sonic
Who voices Warden?
>>560227948Tomboys are not known for their exemplary sex skills. I say this as a tomboy enjoyer. I like that they're awkward and scared
>Dude let me be an annoying asshole to you on mic/chat bruh>Bro you have to let me steal your sinners>WTF YOU CANT THROW THE GAME BECAUSE OF THAT ITS A TEAM GAME
im retarded i dont get the sinners situation
>>560228109richard wasserman same dude who voices scar in lion king
Say what you want about the patron voices but nothing will be as kino as the same announcer working for both teams.
https://youtu.be/JXUQltbHEEEstill can't believe billy and vyper are canonical fuckbuddies
>defending my Archmama on her last life down to 20% hp>3 people of my team alive versus 6 enemies murdering us>ending screen appears>"well I tried">Archmother wins>mfwI didn't realize what happened until the MVP screen and I showed up. Double lane of creeps victory
DEATH TO THE HIDDEN KING
>>560228294billy is also canoncally a cuck
>>560228112What makes it your sinners?
>>560228305KILL THE ARCHMOTHER AND HER DISCIPLES!
>>560228240Damn he’s good
Why are the amber hand and sapphire flame beefing
hidden king chads rise tf up
Billy should've been a girl.
I just realized Graves and Apollo both have limited range on their M1. Literally made for each other
Is ultmaxxing garden back?
>>560229048Billy as a girl is a literal tumblr user
Buying range extender on doorman should make the Baroness hallway longer
just mind raped a pocket into alt f4'ing as doorman
YOU'RE NOT NICE
DEATH TO THE DEADLOCK THREAD
Getting raped by Holliday!
>>560229354why would rem do that
>>560229413Silver, calm down
>>560229413I don't remember posting this but it does sound like something I'd say...
>>560229478Silver gets raped by basically every hero, she's that weak
Amazing. Nerf Kelvin I guess.
>>560229447Because Victor smells
>Sinclair steals my Doorman ult>I ult him and he ults me at the same timeRetardkino
Replace Victor's 3 damage zone with chainsaws instead of electricityReplace Victor's name from Victor to Chainsaw Man
>>560229620Did you end up in the same location together?
>>560229620>steal ivy's ult>turn into a f16
Which Deadlock hero should be in Poker Night At The Inventory 3?
Epstein Rape Abrams
I'm trying to draw this stupid meme with Rem but I don't think it looks like him.
>>560229875wraith, MAYBE abramsviscous would be really funny to see but very unlikely
>>560229875Obviously Wraith, she's a gambler
>>560229953He's the wrong color bro
>>560229976>>560229995Putting an actually experienced gambler in would ruin the point though
>>560228240I will now play your character
>>560229953that looks pretty good bro
>>560229953i think it's just because the hat is lined so light, it looks like it's not there and it messes with the silhouette. but that's just because it's a sketch and otherwise it's very clearly remwe also don't really ever see his beak open so that also probably adds to the uncanny factor
>>560229875Abrams is the obvious choice but Yamato sending death threats across the table in subtitled japanese would be funny.Wraith cheats so she's out of the question.
>white infernus with blue flames modBased
>>560229953Cute! Nice art anon
>>560227980I am this guy >>560224823 and I have literally never been put in low prio even once.
why are people obsessed with getting that cowboy from OW in deadlock? it's just a revolver guy with an auto lock on, that's not interesting
>>560230351One day there will be behavior score and you will end up always matched with like minded individuals. Assuming they don't have that already in the background
>>560230637Hopefully 6v6 queue times are impacted by then.
>>560230186white with blue flames is always coolso double based
>>560230427I'm not as he's shit I just want her kit to reflect the fact her revolver is super special and meant to assrape the troubadour or some shit
>>560230918you VILL punch barrels at ze troubadoryou VILL lasso him into your walker
This game has no direction. It's just freeaim SMITE with dashes.
>>560230918>meant to assrape the troubadour or some shitwhat
>>560231060>>560231060>>560231060>>560231060
>>560230918Holliday finally finds the Troubador and it's a Looney Tunes skit where she throws DK barrels and slams into a painted tunnel on the wall
>The end of /dlg/
>>560229875Mina
>>560229875Doorman, probably. He'd be there just to give backhanded insults at people and just to cause frustration to the other people.
>>560227852Sauce, kind sir?
