Silver Ult Rework Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-220287>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>560188052
we need a goblin characterjust like a shitty little fantasy goblin who stabs you in the knees and throws bombs or something
>>560231060when are rhey nerfing calico and wraith? they are still too strong
>>560231060I've been thinking about this for the past two weeks or so and I genuinely can't tell which is the worse outcome>Option 1Once Valve adds monetization and cosmetics, mods get banned. An entire sector of the fanbase is wiped out and all ingame content is now downstream of official releases just like any other triple A vidya.>Option 2Mods are left as they currently are (and Source 2 console access as well) so Deadlock gets a vibrant modding community, custom maps, etc. But we have to deal with nonstop retard quirk chungus spam/shilling and also people abusing mods to minmax and cheat by making footsteps louder, replacing heavy melee audio with "PARRYPARRYPARRY" etc
I think they should buff Silver.
>>560231227ivy is literally right there and throws kudzu bombs
>>560231283Dota2 CSGO TF2 L4D2 etc all have Steam Workshop idk why you would think it wont be the same for Deadlock
>>560231254They'll lose to BWC next week and get toned down a little
How do we save Graves from herself?
>>560231227>I want this character archetype added!>Does it fit in the context of an occult noir Manhattan?>No, but half the current roster don't anywayThe death of an artstyle. It took TF2 several years for its artstyle to fall apart, but it's looking like Deadlock will lose its visual coherence before it even releases. That's not game design — that's letting the mob rule.
>>560231283We can have both, just make it so all mods have to be turned off if you want to que ranked.
>>560231227Add a 30cm tall whimsical forest gnome from philly with that stabs you in the foot and kills your cows.
>>560231482hello chatgpt
Holliday only needs her Crackshoot reworked into being a Fan the Hammer ability which shoots all the bullets in her revolver really fast. The gameplan would be to jump into someone with a barrel fan the hammer and lasso
>>560231482i didnt know chatgpt used /vg/
>play shiv>do absolutely no damage even though I hit most of my knifes>enemy apolo just jumps in, presses 1, takes a big chunk of hp and gets back to safety with his 3 stamina bars and movement abilities>meanwhile I have to master shiv's right click and take a 300 hour course on source movement just to travel around the mapThey're reworking this guy, right? Even the rage mechanic makes no sense. He's all cool and smooth but he gets angry while fighting? Nothing indicates he's actually raging other than a bar in the middle of the screen
Gun support Ivy or spirit support ivy?
>>560231283It's gonna be option one. It's a competitive game, but most importantly mods will allow people to use paid skins for free. Can't have that. They banned servers with free skins in CS. In fact they banned even mods like CS Classic and Legacy. The only reason they allowed TF2 mods is because TF2 is no longer a massive cash cow.
>he plays spirit Gravesyikes..
>>560231283sv_pure on for official servers and custom lobbies with different maps and all that other crazy shit>>560231482we already have quirky chungus rem and the old timey aesthetic is already tenuous in characters like venator so it's already over before it began
>>560231706Punch Ivy
i love victor
which ability has the worst upgrade path in the game?
HERRO ME MINA HA I SELL CLOTHING I BECOME VISCOUNT OF NEW YOK
>>560231930YumeSTACY!
Cute and canon!
>>560231706Melee Ivyhttps://youtu.be/1spI9yPrVMc
>>560232059>No fanart of Apollo defending Graves from a mob of stacies bullying her like those k-drama scenes
>>560232210>she doesnt know
why is every ivy player some mentally ill person on the brink of a breakdown
>>560232012Silver's wife
>>560231424LICK AND SUCK PUFFY GRAVES PUSSY
>I'M GONNA KILL THE TROUBADOUR AND AVENGE MA SISTER>Also Holliday
>>560232316You mistyped Silver, common mistake.
I CAN'T LEARN NEW CHARSI HAVE TO PLAY THEM IN MY HIGHEST RANK FILLED W TRYHARD SWEATS SEPARATE RANKED AND NORMAL QUEUES ALREADY
>>560231981maybe this, all of the upgrades are about giving it better stats if you land more than 1 dagger on the same target but charges have a 4.5s cooldown between throws, yes between throws not to regenerate a charge, you're never getting the full value out of this
>>560232439"Hmmmmmmm nyo." - Yoshi
>>560232316I don't think generalizing is a healthy way to see the world.
>>560231329they're called entangling thorns chud
>>560231923>>560232126Sounds kino, will try it.
>>560232439Play with bots and then players vs aibots are actually not too bad most of the time, still can't come even close to players however
>>560231363>They'll lose to BWC next week>next weekthey lose to that now
>>560232541need pic of kot
>>560220096As much as i love spirit builds, i think her leaning into gun like venator would be better.1. A roll that doesnt use stamina (but scales with the distance from SM) that lets you fan the hammer in any direction. Reloads at the start and end of the roll.2. Charge up a quickdraw with a perfect timing ( like apollo 3) on hit deal headshot damage even when hitting a bodyshot and on perfect hit also disarm the enemy.3. Charge based skill. Reload your gun with X charges of bullets. These bullets works with skill 1 and 2. These bullets do way more headshot damage then normal and has stacking headshot damage.4. Charge based skill. Lasso. When hitting and enemy you are tethered too them, preventing them from moving out of your max range for the skill. The enemy also cannot use movement skills, but can still dash around. When used on allies you can press the skill again to yank them like a bootleg rescue beam. If you hit a wall or the ground you can repress the skill to yank yourself too it for mobility, doing so will reduce the CD between the charges.
>>560232648nigga im not gonna play against botsi wanna play against players but ones that aren't sweating their ass off every game where i'll 100% be a hinderance to the team if im not on my top 5 chars
>>560232748btw i can understand why people smurf all the time in this game, since only 1 queue you insta get hardstuck in some aids elo with force 50% and u just wanna smurf to feel something again
>>560232748I'm sorry anon but you're a fucking retard and the architect of your own demise if you don't try an unfamiliar character with bots at least once
>>560232748You can get comfy with a character in brawl no problem.Most of the shit you need to know for normal mode applies to like 80% of heroes minimum anyway.
>>560232450Maybe you're not, I exclusively play spirit Vyper and shit on people in lane with this
>>560232404>*SPROING*>SENDING A BARREL!>*BOIOIOIOING*>*fwiiiii-KABLOOOOOOEY*>*KA-PEEEWWN*>BULLSEYE!!>TIME TO GO FLYIN!>*BOOOOOIN-THUMMP*>*WHO-PAAASHH*>WRANGLIN 'EM!!>*rubberband.ogg*>*BONK* *THUNK* *BAM* *POW*what did valve mean by this?
>3 mins in queue>Decide to call it>See a friend in Street Brawl>Figure I'll give it a try>Game found in 10 secondsGRIM
>>560232371Silver is straight and has a puffy cookie.
anti heal should not stack
MOBA character tropes that this game is missing:>Sexy demon woman>High mobility ninja/samurai with a "high skill ceiling">AFK healslut for girls to play>Lady with a bow/crossbow>Sexy assassin with two knives Anything else?
>>560233495My efforts are working.
>>560233856yamato is right there
>>560231930he seems like he'd get along with vindicta more
>>560233468doing that while having a straight face btw
another game of mobius and krill and calico rape the lobby for 20 minutes and then we can't end so we get raped by the farmed victor
>>560233856>Sexy demon womanApollo.>High mobility ninja/samurai with a "high skill ceiling"Yamato.>AFK healslut for girls to playPaige. Rem is also RIGHT FUCKING THERE.>Lady with a bow/crossbowVenator, Grey Talon.>Sexy assassin with two knivesHaze.inb4 "waah wrong gender wrong gender", it's 2026 and Deadlock is a tranny game, grow up chud
>>560233856Generic soldier man with an assault rifle and a bland attitude
>>560233856>geist>yamato>paige>paradox>hazeplease leave your dogshit character ideas at the door
>>560233856clone/trickster/illusion character ala shaco or specter comes to mindim sure some other ones too but i cba to think too hard rnthe roster is way too small, see the same chars every game on deadlock, it gets old quick
>>560233427you poke people with it until you can execute them with poison more like it, it's pretty much all you can do in lane with vyper early on and what everyone does it's not necessarily going against the metacompare it to other lane bully skills you don't need to aim much like doorman's bell and paige's everything, the dagger does 80 damage with improved spirit, it has no damage upgrades and just .8 scaling, it doesn't even give take spirit resist from the target just bullet resist so it doesn't even buff itself
>>560234083>the roster is way too small, see the same chars every game on deadlock, it gets old quickIt's not because the roster is too small, it's because some characters are NIGGER-tier overpowered so get picked every time and bans don't work, nevermind that you can only ban one character yourself and only one as a team.
>>560234074>>560234058nta but haze plays nothing like an assassin shes more of a dps the way the kit is setup rn
deadlock is missing a Clockwerk hero (anti-carry) and a Pugna hero (anti-spirit)
>>560234213its both, if it had 100 heroes then more would be strong at a time so even within those you would see more variety, league rn has 30 or something S tier characters across every role, same with dota, so even if you only play vs metaslaves there's decent variety, the other 70+ chars you see once in a while and can play yourself if you want a change and some challenge, MOBAs need 100 chars minimum imo, they should keep the 6 hero patches coming
John Deadlock
>>560233856if they really wanna be based and sell sinclair's "divorced couple sharing a body" hero fantasy they'll rework him into picrel
I saw yoshi at the supermarket the other day and I went up to him and said "hero idea: adrian shepherd". he just looked at me for what felt like an eternity and then he slowly smiled...and it kept getting wider and wider and then all of a sudden I woke up in my bedadrian confirmed!!!!
>>560233828Fuck you Victor.
>>560234156Doormans bell has a max travel distance and low velocity. Paige has some of the hardest to hit raw skill shots in the game, and if you're standing in the fire, you're a retard. Vypers dagger has low travel timr and CD and I can easily and consistently land 3 on them to proc mystic burst. It doesn't need damage scaling upgrade because it already shits out damage if you're not bad
So we all agree that Graves is dogshit and needs buffs right?
>>560234529>Paige has some of the hardest to hit raw skill shots in the game:)
>>560233856>>Sexy demon womanGeist>>High mobility ninja/samurai with a "high skill ceiling"Apollo>>AFK healslut for girls to playKelvin>>Lady with a bow/crossbowGay Talon>>Sexy assassin with two knivesShiv
>>560231662That makes sense but they already gave levering to Silver. Sorry pardner.
>>560234072Warden
>>560234601she should be buffed if they make her gun require aimotherwise no, autoaim characters should always be F tier in shooters
>calico dives tower over and over and over and over and over and over and over and never accomplishes anything>enemy mina has like 8 kills leaving lane phase>calico spends the entire rest of the game jungling and failing to chase kills across the map, crying and moaning "ughhhh this suckssss get me outtttttt of this match"kill
>>560233856Sexy feral bitch (not anthro)
>>560233856>high mobility samuraiyamato>afk healslutrem>>560234072>generic soldier manwarden>>560234083>clone/trickster/illusionsinclair
>>560234670She does, why do you think they all have to build knockdown and vortex to land them. No other character has this issue btw.
>>560234389man, hots had the funnest heroespitu
Add a bug guy who shoots stunning spikes in a line, has a 100% damage reflect counter, a nuke based on the enemy spirit, and an invis that buffs his next melee
>>560234935Fuck you.
>>560234072>>560234731>>560234821warden probably won't be like that after his redesign, also rem is a really bad healslut he's supposed to roam the map to collect resources, sinclar is a pre alpha mess of a char that doesn't jive w his own kit rn, idk what he'll look like post rework
>>560234973i wish graves skulls worked more like nazeebo's spiders
>>560235012let's call him neex
>finally reach ascendant after years of sweating>terrified to queue again because I might drop bacl down>but if I don't play my rank will decay
>play street brawl>get the legendary item that gives you more charges >misclick and put it on the ability that doesn't have charges>now the ability is useles
>>560234156>doorman's bellsDrooling rock-eaters just stare at the world's slowest projectile for a solid 2 seconds before finally lifting their hand onto their a or d key and complain when they get hit by one of the easiest to dodge nukes in the game.I refuse to take people who complain about the bell seriously. All it means is they have the reactions of a dementia-ridden geriatric.
What's the point of guardians again?
>*Rubs big metallic belly*
Is suppressor worth buying on kelvin?
>>560235191to guard
>>560234226>Smoke bomb into invis>Sleeping CC>Stacking damage on single targets>Ult that works best with a flank
>>560235191To give the enemy team souls
>>560235191faster shop access
>>560235180That's literally not how that works retard. That item gives 2 charges to any skill you put it on. 4 if it's already charged. This works with rapid recharge too giving you 5. Never type again.
>>560233856sexy demon dog>>560234802based
>>560235305meh, game needs a proper melee assassin, more melee chars in general actually
>>560234773Worst thing about meta niggers is that they have the worst map awareness and movement because slaves never learn the game outside tier lists
>>560235065>>560234973i'm waiting for a probius analog to come out so i can do picrel to someone in deadlock in between lane janny dutiesi might honestly write up a hero concept myself
>>560235059>sinclar is a pre alpha mess of a char that doesn't jive w his own kit rnDo you people even play the game?>2 complements his movement, his gun attacks, his first ability and potentially his ultimate>3 complements escapes and all damage he deals>Ultimate can work in all kinds of wacky ways with his kit like Doorman into bolt, assistant swap Dynamo, bunny Paige, Ivy bolt, etc.
>>560235191Stops the enemy wave from pushing. Go watch nightshift and you'll see high-level players are often able to hold on to their guardians well into the mid-game
>>560235418Silver's wolf form is an indicator that melee heroes would get pummeled
>>560235478and what does this scrimblo do
>>560235539silver perma wolf form in laning would be hilarious
>>560235586Set up fat nuke fields that he can detonate with his 1. Has a turret.He's very squishy and pushes really fast, but can also be a setup burst mage.
>>560235539obviously they would have more mobility or cc x anti ranged stuff in their kit to work + some general stuff like you should be knocked off ropes if you're attacked while climbing them, no idea why its not like that in the game rn>>5602355172 is meant to bring him in close while his whole kit is basically an artillery kit insentivizing long range poke and play, and artillery chars should not have a braindead escape lol, the entire char is basically his ult so i doubt they'll change that at least
How will Deadlock succeed where SMITE failed?
Billy is fun. I like being tanky and having to adapt my strategy on melees because the enemy slowly learns my punching patterns throughout the match
>>560235539The wolf form is just overnerfed, it was fine before
>>560229953I rounded out his eyes and redid the hat, I think it's a little better now.
Is siphon bullets a form of true damage where the sapped hp is reduced from current hp and ignores resistances?
>>560235846saved
>>560235845Wrong
Holiday would make more sense if she was a pirate instead of a Cowgirl
>>560235825Run by a competent company and not the chimps over at hi-rez
>>560235846Draw one of his lil helpers with an equally big joint
>>560235364i'm serious i was playing victor and put it on pain battery by accident, i tanked a lot of damage and it didn't let me use itif it wasn't because of the item it must have been something else
is the game... currently...dare i say it....balanced?
>>560235920What? It's so bad you're better off not putting points in it now, while it was balanced before. Are you retarded or something?
>>560235825smite was TOO moba, deadlock is more of a shooter x fighter, but still mostly moba melee is the funnest part of deadlock though, that's why I'm hoping for melee chars, idk how they'll interact with the parry system however, maybe their m1 will be melee that can't be parried, but their melee would be some kinda ability basically which does extra stuff/dmg but it can be parried
>>560236101nyo
>you see this GIANT spiky metal ball on this huge mechanical arm?>lets ignore that completely and make the hero about some gay bombs insteadrework when
>>560234389I wish we'd get Arthas, Imperius or Leoric. Well, Geist is a bit like leoric and used to be exactly like him in Neon Prime but having a spectral/skeletal hero who can roam the map to respawn would be kino
Say it.
When will this game get a REAL coomer-bait hero that actually shows some skin?
>>560231060enemies to lovers is such a kino trope
>>560231706Spirit with a side of melee, max stone form and the bombs first thing
>>560236101Probably the least balanced it's ever been.
>>560236128Melee that cant be parried are already in the game ie Billy slam, calico, drifter etc
>>560236128silvers ult is already "melee" only and its a total shit show
>>560236101nah
>>560236182I want my nigga Fenix directly ported into Deadlock
>>560236198Seven doesn't have a penis
>>560236183they DO lots of things
>>560236198>It's not Seven x KelvinDon't care.
I should be able to parry Apolo's 3. At least that way he'll have to fake out at least 1 of his casts
>>560236269silver ult doesn't have any stuff to counter ranged, no proper cc, and its dmg/healing stats are too good so of course people are gonna buy counter items specifically to counter it, a melee hero is gonna be melee all the time, with more manageable stats, no one is gonna itemize specifically against them and if they do they lose the game because they didn't itemize against the other shit in their team, not a hard concept to grasp how u can make melee heroes work
>>560236432BASED.
Holliday rework idea:1 is unchanged2 is unchanged3 is now lasso, tugs the enemy closer instead of yanking them, 2nd upgrade makes it pull closer and 3rd pulls them all the way to you 4 is now headshot, 3rd upgrade nukes the enemy for 50% of their current health or somethingthoughts?concerns?hopes for the future?
>>560236373then what is yoshi sucking after he buffs him for no reason?
>>560236263soul overload you mean
>>560235183>all doormans use their skill from max range and not 5 m away from you behind a wall in laneleast disingenuous post today, I'm not saying doorman is the most op character ever, literally all he does in lane is poke, if you jump him after it he doesn't do anything more, but it doesn't change the fact the EXPLOSION range is abysmalyou can dash away from paige's root or bird, you can't dash away from doorman's bell because it's still big enough to damage even if you react, but you're free to post your amazing bell dodging compilation, if you're ever on the receiving end of one of course, to prove me wrong
>>560236183They cute :)
>>560231912Gun graves is too costly and annoying to pull off>need to buy movment speed and stamina >need more ammo or a fast reload item>needs a lifesteal item to not dieWhere am i getting all these souls from? Graves should whore herself out to rich onee sans because this shit is not paying for itself
we need a medieval knight character
>>560235059Sinclairs kit is fucking fantastic. You were unironically filtered.Yeah his model and voice lines are placeholder garbage, but the kit is crazy fun
>>560236432Gay sex doesn't exist in the Deadlock universe.
>>560236198Rem would not approve
>>560236508>thoughts>concernsare you mentally ill?
>>560236621>char built around ranged poke and artillery should have a brainless escape ability yeah that's fuckin fantastic ur right and not biased
>>560236508This fucking sucks
>>560235586what >>560235721 said basicallyhis 2 (those two sparks in the bush) is a charged ability that sets a stationary field, after a delay you can detonate it by shooting into it for huge damage, it scales a bit higher than most abilities (most abilities in hots scale at 4% per level, probius scales at 5% mostly). later on you can get an upgrade for it that gives a 35% spell power reduction to targets on detonationthere are other gimmicks (only regens mana when near a summon but rrgens very quick) but essentially he has infinite mana sustain in lane & arguably THE best waveclear in the game thanks to his 2/1 combo but is very squishy with minimal escape tools (a speed boost on a 30s cooldown that cancels on ANY damage, including creep waves and DoT)tldr tracer is about to walk into a nuclear landmine
im gonna be honest, ive never seen any of the king in yellow media people onions out about, ive only read the book and it's a good book but it's not like it's the best book ever or somethingyou'd think everyone read the play
>>560236638>he doesn't know
>>560236732>silence
>>560236794i've only seen true detective and played fear and hungeryellow king just has aura
>>560235970
>>560236527Unless you're right next to him when he throws the bell, the range does not become un-dodgeable until late in the game and that's if he's gone balls deep into it. Geist has a bomb that is literally un-dodgeable even during lane phase. If you're genuinely saying the bell is just as bad as geist's bomb then frankly you're fucking retarded and need to play around sound cues more. Not being able to dodge the bell in lane is, most of the time, a skill issue.
>>560236732So you are just fucking mad that you can't catch sinclair in your games and that means that his kit is bad? Ever heard of slowing hex lil man?
>>560236883>expensive and situational counter justifies having an OP kit even dota ain't this retarded cause rubick is a low mobility hero wo an escape unless he buys blinkmaybe sinclairs should have to buy wrap stone if they want an escape and not press 2 or 3 whatever it is to blink 30m away even while taking dmg
>>560237001>slowing hexNOOOOOOOOO BUT MY DAMAGE
>>560236897i half think people don't even read the book and just see the king casually aurafarming on the cover and think it must be the most spooky thing everr
>>560236905perfect
>>560236905Saved
>>560236110>jumps on a ropeyou're eating shit>jumps on a ziplineyou're eating shit>jumps on a roofyou're eating shit>jumps from roof to another roof while shooting at youyou're eating so much shitSilver was nerfed but the core of having a melee character on a timer in a game where everyone bounces like a bunny on crack is stupid to begin with.
>>560237001nigga i'm just looking at it from a character design perspective, it makes no sense for a ranged and poke focus char to have an ability that a) works as a get closer ability b) is a braindead escape, in other mobas artillery chars are supposed to die if you catch them out alone and isolated as for "just balance it around items" >>560237051everything about sinclair just reeks of unfinished early alpha design, not just his looks, imo they should keep the ult and change everything else, either all in on ranged or change the 1 and make him more close range focused
>>560234601Her gun and 3 which is a gun passive are both wonky as fuck and don't work too well, none of her abilities are supposed to be used from a far, it's clear the zombies and skulls should be used while you're sucking the enemy but the problem there is that she has 0 sustain and 0 movement, so you pathetically try to suck them while they dash away and in team fights someone will try to destroy your tombstone or skulls and you'll be stuck there with your pathetic 2 stamina and subar movement speed trying to waddle away>tldra bit more sustain and a bit more gun damage, allow me to get close without getting raped by the average apollo and mo players because i sure as fuck can't stay far
>>560237242sinclair isn't a traditional artillery mage and I think it's a mistake trying to cram 2.5d concepts into deadlock. let him keep his assistant mobility, it's interesting and he needs it
I hate the purple bastard.
>>560237132Don't you go mad if you actually read it? Another win for the illiterate
>>560237132yeah i genuinely have no idea what the yellow king is in the media he's in its some super old super-natural force that manipulates society and people around him wo them even knowing it to hatch some 1000 year old nefarious scheme or for his own goals that's some aura shit even wo his cool looks
>>560236794I only really like the first half as the writer just played it safe for the rest and wrote the romance slop he was used to but in media it's often used due to its cult fame as the crazy mind-fucky book that influenced Lovecraft.The Hidden King referencing it is interesting, however, as it sells the idea of this imposing and permeating influence in everyday life that can be seen in his design and map side.
I tried reading the king in yellow once and fell asleep
>>560237379yeah, fucking nigger wraith
>>560237132nobody reads or watches anything ever. you think all those bloodborne fans ever read lovecraft? bitches just namedrop the legacy media titles to look smart.
JUST>>560237505mina with a BBL just feels wrong
Ok guys, i have a concept in mind, but to pull it off I'd have to learn to use blender and shit, and i'm still on the fence about that, since it will take a lot of time and effort. I had the deranged idea to make a custom Ivy model. I haven't decided its name yet, but it will be something along the lines of "the warsaw sweeper", "waffen ivy" or "Schutzstaffel ivy". I'm gonna replace her gun with an mp 41 and give her a proper uniform. What do you think?
how much of the playerbase plays street brawl only?
>>560237408i didnt really get it from reading the book, i thought he was just a character in the play>>560237401only if you read the second act of the play, but you'll probably be fine, most of the characters who read it are fine
First time I've seen an item with 2 bonuses
>>560236905nice
>>560236101>Seven dealing a trillion damage with his balls from 2 streets away>paige right behind him doing the same shit>doorman being hitler and sending people to the shadow realm>ivy smothering people with buttYeah nah
>>560237242He isn't an artillery character. He's a trickster. The amount of sneaky bullshit sinclair can do because of assistant swap and his ult is completely unique in deadlock.you are the fucking retard who is too dumb to even see the character for what he actually is. You are just slapping your dumbass assumptions onto the character.>Hur he has a magic missile! He must be mage nuker, if he isnt then he is shit and has a bad kitYou are just obviously naive as shit.
>>560237608I'd use Nazi ivy skin
buff graves gun dps why does it tickle compared to like warden or haze
>>560236905Kino
>>560237608What kind of uniform, anon?
>>560237704thats literally how everyone plays sinclair thoughnuking and poking with his long range bs then lategame steal ults and rejuwhoah.... such a le trickster char.... meanwhile everyone ignores his illusion as anything other than a tp point and players use it as a braindead escape just like doorman doors instead of anything elsewhat's tricky about it? that he can tp a few times? proper illusion hero would be copy himself into an illusion that you can control or it controls itself so you don't know which is which, smth like thatala shaco/phantom lancer/earth spirit and whatever
>>560237215There was literally no need to nerf her.
>>560237759I think the devs are/were retarded enough to consider her a spell caster so they gave her a shitty gun, also the passive sucking the enemies dps worried them so they crippled her gun damage, the problem is that they went to fat and now you have to afk farm 15~20 minutes or get 5+ kills early to actually buy enough gun items to facilitate her shitty base gun
>>560237973I accept your concession.
>>560236905I kneel
>>560237615Depends on how bad the main mode is to play
*raises paw*abrams and billy have lower winrate than silver, how come billybros and bramchads aren't shitting their pants?
>>560237759>>560238027She saps gun damage for herself.
>>560238040there is nothing tricky about sinclair, he has no illusion ability, its just a tp, you should play specter/phantom lancer/shaco to see how a illusion focused hero ought to play at least, there's even more potential in deadlock, but sinclair is a lame char, idc if u like playing it
>>560234389I’d love an Abathur expy but I feel like his kit has already been doled out across a handful of characters>Rem helpers are like symbiotes>Graves ult is similar to locusts>Sinclair ult is similar enough to Abathur’s, just the other way around
>>560238171trickster doesn't automatically equal illusions. also, cliches are lame. why make a full 3d vertical action game inspired dota but then cram it with cliches?
>>560238157They weren't nerfed for no reason
>>560237973You don't even play him, and I bet you only have to play against him once every 20 games.You use "le" unironically. You are obviously dumb as shitI'm not going to sit here and explain in great detail to your empty brain how you play sinclair.You literally just come off as fucking buttmad that you can't deal playing against him. Buy counter items you baby. Fucking retarded child god damn
>>560236508>lasso now gets mega cucked by debuff removerawful idea
Guys, how do I delete gameplay feedback? I don't want yoshi and the rest of the devs to point and laugh at my stupid take that I don't even agree with anymore...
*throws your matches*
>>560237759you need every on-hit-proc item to make that gun decent
>>560236182He's not that special but I wanna play Tyrone. We also need a suicide bomb hero.
>>560238274they were going for illusion w him but failed since as i said no one sees the ghostly geist and is confused or thinks it might be a character, its just a tp point, that's it>>560238292nigga no shit i don't play him its the lamest fucking hero in the game thats half baked from his model to his animations to his kit executioni enjoy proper illusion trickster type chars like phantom lancer or shaco, would be nice to have one in deadlock, release another char, idgaf, keep ur useless sinclair design as is so u can play him and clap
>Be Paige>See my Haze rotating to gank>She gets caught in the jungle>Move to help her>She cloaks up and runs away even though we're 2v1Why are Haze players such cowards?
>>560236547on lane:>extra stamina>restorative shot>slowing bullets>intensifying magazine>mystic shotand its ez win
>>560237917I still haven't pinned the concept down, but I'd probably give her a standard field gray tunic with the sleeves rolled up, standard field grey pants and an ss garrison hat. But it's just a thought, i should probably make some concepts on photoshop. But first i'll try to use blender and follow uglycoal's guide and see if i can actually do it
>>560231482>It took TF2stopped reading there
>people still don’t know you can heavy melee ginnis walls
>>560238158>25% at best early game>enemy just dashes back once to get out of your pathetic range, or worse yet if they know what they're doing they'll dash past you, cutting off the gun AND getting out of your rangeI just want a small buff, doesn't have to be anything major just give her 0.5 extra speed or 1 extra dash or a little more damage, as is she can barely clear a wave without gun items
>>560238496>Sinclair is useless!>Sinclair can't be killed cause he has an easy escape!>Sinclair rapes me from long range with bolts and steals my ult>His kit is uselessJesus christ I hope you are just a high effort baiter. This is levels of retardation that is dangerously high
>>560238004They should've at least given her more time like they did with every other hero before nerfing her.
>>560238685he is currently useless because he's over-nerfed, guess why? because his tp ability is pure bullshit combined with hard cc and artillery nukes which he has all at once for some reason reasonso he will either be obscenely OP and hated, or overnerfed and weak as he is right now enjoy ur well designed char retard
>>560238351>FOR THE DJII ACCCKK
>Kelvin going from F to A on every tier list over nightIt's so funny when pros play something and all the armchair devs realize they just fundamentally dont know how to play a strong character.
>>560238351if mirage is so bad why does he rape my phantom 3 lobbies?
>>560238351I remember people here saying he got buffed when the patch dropped
>>560238809(you)
>>560238351>Bebop has a super low winrate despite nothing about his kit actually changing compared to last update where everyone considered him HitlerDid noobs just learn to deal with him or what?
>>560238837Thats been Kelvin's entire existence he goes from being annoyingly broken to ass to annoyingly broken i thnik he's just fundamentally unfixable
>>560231706>Spirit>Duration, CDR, area, escalating exposure>Arctic blast>get in, throw roots, arctic blast, stone formThey're stuck sitting still for about 5 full seconds and take roughly 1000 damage just from you
>>560238916the moment they mention a LoL character my brain turns off
>>560238931i genuinely don't know why bebop winrate/pickrate dropped so low
>>560238837almost like they buffed him
>>560238837Well, he was buffed after being dogshit for a long time.
>>560238709People learned how to play against and that playing against her isn't particularly hard, nerfing her was completely unnecessary.
>>560238837its his beam. its too strong in the debuff department. also, personally, like 85% of the new "improved spirit scaling" they added to characters is completely broken and should be removed
>>560239006They buffed him a week ago and people were still undervaluing him till the lateshift
>>560236905Umazing
>>560238997even in ritualist btwbebop bros...
>>560238663SHH don't tell them
>>560238663Wall is already useless enough when everyone just bing wahoos over the top
>>560238837>Cuckbeam>Cuckdome>CucknadesNo movement speed allowed. No DPS allowed. No escape allowed. No stamina allowed. Go sit in the chair.
>>560236198I also like rivals to lovers
- kelvin now falls through ice path when stunnedfixed ur kelvin
kelvin is too damn tanky
>>560238837>Get massive buff>Goes up list That's how games work yeah
>>560239562Did these two get any lines? Holliday got lines with some of the other new heroes
>>560239646>Gets massive buff>Goes up list a week later
>>560239687yeahsilver tries to bond with her, only for holliday to shut her down shes too busy chasing the troubadour to waste time with a mutt
>>560238997Because Bebop is total fat pile of shit?His bomb sucks, his ult sucks, his mobility sucks, his gun sucks
based initiateGODS graves lovers
kelvin is too damn sexy
>>560239562Imagine
>>560239805rem our beloved..
>>560239814No blood circulationDick doesn't work
>>560239853
>>560239786yet he was holding 50%+ winrate and a lot of complaints until like a patch ago
This recent patch is fucking terrible, bunch of retards are behind the balance of this gameI used to main mina but now she is completely useless and can't stay alive to even escape becasue of this new horrendous TTK, she also does no damage mid game so she can't do the job she was designed to do but faggots on reddit will tell you that it's all good becasue the power spike that comes later, that later being where everyone else spikes as well, making her new power irrelevant. Meanwhile we have heroes like wraith who can solo whole team and that's somehow balancedor ivy/muhhamed who have no downsides at allI used to do really well as mina before patch but I just can't figure out what the fuck am i supposed to do now. My role is to roam in enemy's jungle searching for kills and stealing their jungle but I can't do that becasue whenever I do, i have not enough power to end fight fast, and then enemy's team catches up and i'm deadI feel like my role was reduced to a lane pusher in the mid game becasue if I don't, i don't get enough souls and if i don't have souls, i can't spike and if i can't spike, i can't 1v1 anyoneevery time i try to roam and 1v1 i fall behind with souls, it is ridiculousI hope people responsible for this patch kill themselves
does parrying one of viscous' ten fucking charges of goo fist inconvenience him in any way why the fuck is he allowed to machine gun these fucking things
>>560233935i agree she's cuter than paige too
>>560240080It heals you if you have rebuttal
>>560240014i feel you m8, mina's really weak rn, and she will likely stay weak because oses and the other pros still rape on her but she takes 10x more skill to pull off what wraith calico faggots can do in 3 buttons in pubs, as a char whose strength comes from movement I fear mina will be balanced for proplay rather than pubs for the forseeable futureand the nigresses are still OP, calico is 70%+ pickrate in eternus rn
There will be so many Troubadour x Holliday fanart in the future I can feel it
>>560233935vindicta wants revenge on her killers and victor wants to know who made him, they arent similar at all
>>560239853pfffft womanlet
>>560240006Characters with hooks can be walking garbage and they'll still have a 50% winrate because instantly taking one hero out at the start of a fight is op.
>>560240287so why is bebop 45% wr dogshit now when he was 50% before...? his pickrate also dropped by like 30%
>>560240118Why does every single yumejoshi ship herself or her self-insert with Victor?
>>560240217if troubadour makes it in I wonder what kinda design he'll have?
>>560240273>168cm>womanletavg female height in the US is 161cm
Is Victor part black? Can he say the n word?
>>560240565every one of victor's body parts is a different ethnicity
>>560240565Victor can say any word he wants.
>>560239853>>560240004Lmaoooo take your hat off, shortie!
>>560240432He's tall, muscular, and kind
>>560240515Some kind of music based debuff and nuking kit going by what little lore we get from the voice interactions.
>>560240432imagine the creature as a pretty woman instead and you'll see the appeal of victor/frankenstein. it's like that twilight meme
>>560240362Because he didn't get buffed and doesn't match well until the buffed characters He was also not great beforehand
>>560240565His creator explicitly made sure to give him a BBC
>heya hoyas meme arrows only have a 2x spirit scaling>buying every single slot to buff them AND having 150 bonus spirit power from owl kills doesn't even bring it up to 800 damageI miss when I could kill people with arrows
>yuriquite literal unironic epstein fetish
>>560240906You will become an ult bot with a 20% hp execute and like it.
>>560240565yeah he can say it
Rem and his nerfed auntie Silver
>>560241096surprised the reddit mods didnt instantly take it down
>won a game against a fed victor and wraith with an off meta compbest feeling ever
When is he getting added? And how many characters do you think Volvo should aim for before the game's release?
>>560240249>revenge on her killers her killer's familyother than that they could find something in common, like how they are basically immortal, how they don't belong in the world right now (one just got put together and the other comes from the 1800s)
>>560241096This pairing makes no sense, Silver x Venator or Silver x Holliday makes more sense
>>560241314>yakuza boss>in new york
>>560241314at least 70 hopefully, they need to go crazy w the added chars at some point, mobas need a lot of chars, its the main source of variety and fun ideally 100 but thats too much imo since the game will 100% release within 2 years max
>>560241350neon prime was japanese themed
>>560241350He can be in the same org as Yamato, like Sheev and Gay Talon are both from duh Baxtah Society (they have your number).
>>560240525she is one when compared to the other gemale heroes only paige and graves are shorter
>>560240432innocence. the same reason why robot girls are popular
>>560241403>at least 70 hopefullythis game is never releasing
>>560237759>Why is character with aim assist worse at M1ing than characters without aim assistHmmm
>>560241346It's literally just because they're two female characters that dropped together in the same patch (Graves doesn't count cause she's a muhfuggen child n shiet), same with Mina/Paige despite them not having a single voice line together
>>560233468>ARE YOU KIDDIN' ME!?
>>560241198they know they can't show their bias>>560241096those two don't act anything like that, especially celeste
Dynamo's ult is so brainless
>>560233468she makes those same sound effects in bed. she uses bounce pad to destroy your dick
>>560241785HES DOING IT
>>560241654they're hyping up, getting shills, named updates, steam news posting its gonna release in 2 years, idk w how many chars, just said i hope for more
>>560241785have you tried walking away
>>56024165470 is overdoing it, I expect 1 or 2 more six-batch heroes plus remodels before we hit open beta
>>560241785>blink stone>I AM DA COSMOS>refresh>I AM DA COSMOS>win
revert the stack changes to vindicta and drifterjust being around or tickling someone with your ult should not make you unstoppable late game, it's fucking retarded
>>560241681Not an argument. The aim assist is barely there in the first place.
>>560240515Mysterious musician with a huge hat prolly blonde and handsome because valve panders to yume's now bonus points if he's obsessed with Holliday because she keeps chasing him
I can't help but feel immense joy when I catch a mina out of the air with Lash and just destroy her soul. Fuck that hero and all of the gay little fucbois that player her.
What do you do when you see your teammate do something absolutely braindead baboon retarded and you tell them politely to stop but then they get mad and say you're actually the retard and proceed to throw your game by continuing to do the braindead baboon retard thing?
>>560242003I fucking hate passive abilities and I don't think Drifter specifically should have one period because his entire gameplay loop depends on if he gets stacks or not
>>560242180idk because I only brool
>>560241346VampirexWerewolf is better
Warden is the most honest character in the game
Here's your teammate anon
>>560242003drifter is fine noobbro
>>560242389Why does nobody ship Silver and Drifter?Like actually tho that sounds like it has potential
>>560242003Drifter is still dogshit even with the change lmaoStacks were never the problem, even when he gets them he's just a shitty m1 carry compared to the alternatives that come with CC, escapes and way higher fire rate.
>>560242392I genuinely stopped playing warden because I felt I was winning by going full retard. Didn't feel earned. Nowadays I wonder what the hell I was thinking.
>>560242481why the fuck would anyone want to date a literal rapist murderhobo that's pretty much chaotic evil? actually don't answer that...
>>560242392>aoe -45% damage on a 5 second cooldown
>>560231060lot of doorman hacks going around. stay safe frens
>>560242481Drifter only loves murder
>>560242402goo punch :)
>>560242035>Not an argumentYes, it is. You just don't like hearing the incredibly obvious answer.>The aim assist is barely therelol
Stinky Werewolf or Bitchy Vampire?
>>560242553Shipping doesn't just mean datingLike imagine Silver is alive post ritual, still down on her luck, so she follows a bounty on the Drifter thinking it'll either solve her financial problems or she'll die and it won't be her problem anymore and the Drifter starts toying with her and they get embroiled in weird psychosexual stuff and then they fuckKinda like the Hannibal TV show
>>560242402I envy his willpower.
>>560242553>why the fuck would anyone want to date a literal rapist murderhobo that's pretty much chaotic evil?I don't know, ask the yumejoshi girls that ship themselves with Drifter because they think he's hot
>>560242780She stinks good though
>>560242402based gooer
>>560242780Gargoyle Ass
>>560242843yeah i forgot how nasty and evil women are mbavg serial killer gets 500 love letters a month in prison
I felt Ivy before the big rebalance was in a comfortable spot balance-wise and these changes only created problems.>BUT SHE'S STRONGER BECAUSE BIG DAMAGE STRONGBut she didn't need it.
>>560242780Stinky vampire
*raises paw*I do not find silver or ivy attractive
>>560242730I accept your concession.
>>560242402dude plays deadlock like 9 times a day be mindful of his mental state
>>560242402Based. I wish he was my teammate.
>>560239853Still thinking about that post that said what if Silver was a bara wolfman but Venator was a hag nun
>>560243049you don't? yet you post on these threads...
>>560242843vampires are naturally hot and he's not a little bitch crying about the curse of immortality and other bullshitthat makes him better than 99% of modern vampiresi wish he had more art with victor
>>560243032Silver is for straight white men, not furries.
NERF REDDITMAN
>>560242526I'm so glad Dopatwo is back doing things I care about. God bless this wacky spic and his webtoons.
>>560242003t. gay talon player
How did you pick your main? I have severe analysis paralysis because there's so many I like playing.
>>560243004Paige is so delusional this would be a 100% believable death scenario for her
>Return Fire is an item you buy if you wanted to euthanize your team's win chance>they NERF it in the last patchcan a scientist explain?
Beating Celeste To Death With Iron Rods
>>560243350pick with your cock
>>560243350i don't have a main
>>560243171Yes, Goyim, fuck the dog... white people love fucking dogs, it's the straightest, most "Aryan" thing you can do... good work, Rabbi Shekelstein, teach them to LOVE Silver...
>>560243350I pick the hero that has a kit I like
>>560243350>Select all heroes I like>Whenever I have a really irredeemably dogshit match on one, I remove them from my roster>Continue until I only have 3 niggas
>>560242780A rhetorical question, I presume?
>>560243350i picked seven because i think he has a cool back story and designthat's literally it
How the hell do I counter Calico when Im jungling?Magic carpet and curse can help me get away for most people, but Calico kills me before I have any time to react.
>>560242481nobody deserves that
>>560243032Ivy is objectively better than werewolf slop. Pic unrelated.
>>560243350i want to fuck victor
>street brool>they have Lash>we get no heroes with stuns and no knockdowns>he completely stomps (haha) us >somehow we get one round>on round 4 Lash gets unstable concotion>he keeps trying to combo it with his ult>keeps dying achieving nothing and simply deleting himself from the game>we finally get good items>on round 5 Lash is the only one left standing on their team>he does it again and kills nobody but himselfBased retard. He threw the game but I respect his commitment.
graves... saved the game
>>560243449She's a white woman, schlomo. Keep your kike headcanon to yourself.
>>560242780Goth with a killer bush
>>560242481drifter only works in troll ships
>>560243350I saw their ult and thought it looked cool
>>560243518Have teammates nearby and start screaming if you hear a meow
so drifter just kills people cause lol why not? what a dick
>>560243350Ivy is sexy and fun, Dynamo's playmaking and stomping are fun, Doorman is a seethe merchant and funThat's all it takes, really
I want a ghostbuster hero
>>560242780ghost girl with thick legs
>>560242843They're in for a really rude awakening thenhttps://youtu.be/wIuQfm1Y9rE?is=7Vezpcf3hGGH3Dru
WE NEED A MEDIEVAL KNIGHT HERO
>>560243518Etheral shift
The game NEEDS to add a Jewish hero
>>560243350I liked Graves design, but what sold me on her is that she's a zoner. I used to play zoner in fighting games.Before she released, I played McGinnis and Ivy.
Would you still be complaining about Calico if she looked like THIS?
>>560243449this but unironically bestiality is based
>>560243874mo and kril are jews, 100% unironically
its called deadlock because the game will be dead 2 months after release because the devs will abandon it like dota underlords
>>560243723The average guy doesn't find this thing attractive
>>560243874
>>560243964yes I don't fucking care if she's a nigger or a crackerbullshit faggot brain off hero
>>560243964yes because now she looks like a generic marvel rivals snowbunny
>>560243350Ivy a cute and she feels good to play.
>>560244012underlords wasn't a real game >>560244057silver is the only blonde in this game
>>560243964She should be egyptian.
>>560244031>the average guy has shit tasteyes I know
>>560244031I've never claimed to be the average consumer
>>560243350>geistshe is hot and i like bombing enemies>vindictashe is hot and i like sniping enemies>paradoxshe is hot an i like swaping and sniping enemies>victori like running down enemies with the stink aura
>>560243627Graves had the most polished design, model and animations. Many heroes are not even close and hopefully will recieve an update.>Silver, a new hero, has many animations borrowed from SevenI hate this
>divine barrier doesn't cleanse bebop bombs off you?????????
>>560244181graves bros...we're useless fucking dogshit
>>560244031WOAH MAMA>the big ass high heelskek
>>560243964Who would've thought, russians have better taste than ameriniggers
>>560244214victor is hot too...
>>560237505boring slop face copied on to a pinterest reference
Why do people suck so bad a peeling in this game? It's a literal basic MOBA concept your carries get peel so they can carry. I peel for all my fed players/carries and they all fellate me. But I notice when I play carry I never get peel, so I'm stuck playing non-carries.
>>560244228bombs arent a debuff
>>560244181>miku and victor CDownplayerKING...
>>560244031>>560244257https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZzLzeoju-c
>>560243964Make her a cat girl or furry or I'm not interested
>>560244181This is a midwit bellcurve tier list. You put S-tiers like McGinnis and Victor in the bottom tier for no reason
>play moseph and krilliam>press 4 on whoever is most fed>can feel them typing up a forum post about dishonest heroes
>>560244338kek i kinda noticed this too, when i had a rem that actually knew how to support, he literally DOES NOT LET YOU DIE, its insane, i felt like i was cheatingtheres very few support players in the game I guess, the trans are men so they like playing carries too, we have no egirls
>>560244367>Debuffs and negative effects are not synonymousicefrog is a fucking retard
>>560244338>Every character has a least 2 dashes and can by extras and blinksPeeling against 90% of the cast is impossible unless youre team is coordinated enough to chain cc which they never are.
I play this game with an Azeron Keyzen and a Gameball Thumb.A.M.A.
>tfw I'm absolutely addicted to making and optimizing builds. And the frequent patches don't make it better. How do I stop
>>560244338You don't understand it's absolutely CRUCIAL that my support kelvin uses abilities to take the kill on 50 hp hero I'm about to kill, takes all sinners and then take the damage buff I was about to take and then go and die with it solo 10 seconds later.(These all happened in an ascendant 4 game yesterday)
>>560244489>Im not the most fed>He keeps ulting me specifically
>>560244489Mo and Krill are the most honest hero in the game, and I'm tired of pretending that they're not.
>>560244612Get a life
>>560244338i would love to play support and peel but that means im not playing victor so no one is going to be the lane janny and we lose because the team just wants to fight blue
>>560244816i hate how lane jannying is an ez win, solo creeps should not be able to take down both base guardians, as they often do, or even walkersyet they keep making it EASIER for them to do thisi don't just want wins, i want satisfying wins with nice fights and kda
>>560244489>play monsoon and krillberg>max duration>max spirit>ult>diviner's kevlar making me unkillable>pause midway through
>>560245057>he's not bougthening refresher and torment pulse for extra sufferingngmi
>>560244318paige...
>bind pgup "volume 0.9">bind pgdn "volume 0.15"
>>560244489Nice try you loli loving autist
>>560245057>Doorman waiting on the side for you to finish
>when I play viscous>enemy team knows how to parry>when I play against an enemy viscous>my team doesn't know what parry isThis game is so dogshit man.
>>560244990i was a murky/abathur main in heroes of the storm and got high rank with them so seeing how pushing is rewarded in this game is quite niceit just sucks because people don't push, don't do sinners, would rather spend 3 minutes clearing a t3 jungle than defending a walker and so on, at least in archonslop. that's why it's such an ez win, because there is no one stopping you from farming
>>560245510doing sinners is so damn boring i wish it was more interactiveyou litertally just spam Q for like 20 seconds while staring at the bulbsthat's why i prefer to farm the camps at leastthan do sinners, at least they fight back
How much does Mina charge for me love you long time
>>560245262Pocket sand upon ye
>>560236373But he does have ballsLIGHTNING
>>560245629Sinners should have actual slot machine rng
>>560243350if they have a nice sounding gun
>>560244590this looks like a shark out of something like Bionicle
>>560245464>knockdown on me>debuff remove it>two more>bebop hooked>doorman ulted>mo ulted>cursed>viscous ulted on a small corridor>3 of my teammates were farming t2 camps right next to where I got triple knockdowned
>>560243350The one I have the most fun with
>>560245694yeah i think they're a placeholder or some shit they def won't be like this on release
>>560243964This still looks like sweet baby inc. Give her a pencil skirt and we'll talk
>>560244489this game needs linkins sphere against targeted items/abilities
>>560245629sinners are somewhat fun to do when you invade the enemy jungle, but i agreei think the jungle overall needs a rework and so does the urn, the mid game is really boring and besides the boss there really isn't much to do urn is really boring i never do that shit
>>560243350Same way I pick them in every game>Barrier 1: Do they look cool and/or is their theme/design really well made?>Barrier 2: Do they play nicely/uniquely?>Barrier 3: Are they actually fun to play?If yes to all 3 then most likely I'll play them a ton, visuals/design/sound is usually what hooks me in.
>>560240249they don't need to have 'le similar backstories' to have a similar vibe you weird autist
>>560243350she makes a lot of time jokes and none of them are particularly good
>>560243964I like Calico's current design its just her hair thats ugly
every match i've played recently is filled with pussies people giving up because we are down 5k at 15 minsrussians screaming over voice chatit wasn't always like this wtf
>>560243350>Damn those are some fat knockers>Oh cool a naked mode
>>560246512league refugees have infested this game
>>560246512>it wasn't always like this wtfwtf are you talking about? the screeching Russian Haze going 0 and 12 is a staple of EU servers some of them just moved to drifter and wraith
>>560246390Calico with a hood would look 10x better than she currently looks. The silly ass pepper glue hair and bun look ridiculous.
>>560246704yeah maybe 1/10 games would have thatnow its literally EVERY match i play
>>560246105Also there's bonus points if I'd like to mating press them but it's not mandatory.
>>560246767calico should never be seen because when shes good enough to be picked the game becomes shit
>HEDED TO YELLO
>>560247043>duh dargnus cawms for yoe
>play billy with a silver in lane>play aggressively targeting the enemy graves>silver refuses to join, leaving me to die in a 2v1 while she sits under walkerFuck Silver and fuck Silver players
How has rebalance patch been?
>>560247291an absolute mess
>>560241350I imagine the news of demons granting any wishes would spread quickly
just fapped for the 4th time today
>>560247142what accent is that anways?
>>560247291calico and wraith still decide every match
>>560247378Fr or are you being hyperbolic?
What does Warden say when he hits at low health? I couldn’t hear what he said but it sounded hilarious for some reason
>>560247387who were the subjects
>>560247043>You don thin ur gonna win doya
>>560247163>play silver with a billy in lane>billy walking in range of an enemy graves>sit back trying to push the wave with my slow ass gun, leaving him to kill himself in 2v1s
>insane 100ms-200ms net jitter every game>do everything to fix it, drivers, performance settings, configs>all I needed to to was put the game in fullscreenwhat the fuck
>>560247390cajunhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaOV3fNIYHs
>>560247510it changed absolutely nothing doorman is still brainless Mcginnis ult is still stupid calico and wraith are still broken it changed nothing
Dey'll hide buht it won't matta...
Calico redesign when?
New York belongs to me >:)
>>560247526https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/characters/warden/all the voicelines are here>>560247601oh i thought it sounded french
>>560247510It didn't fix jackshit it was just a bunch of slaps on the wrists.Despite being an alpha these retarded devs treat the game like a league biweekly patch and just do small nerfs/buffs instead of addressing and reworking the root problem.
>>560247529Japs x bwc, classic milf and friend x stepson, hung femboy and finally just now Charlotte sartre goth-y bitch the one where she gets kidnapped
>>560245262does this prevent the stun or only give you a barrier?
>>560247761Thanks babe*smooch*
>>560247783thats really gay ngl
>want to play as Mina>my aim is so shit i can basically almost never proc the bite
>>560247546if you are playing like a bitch on a silver especially with aggressive billy in your lane, just pick a support rem next time and stick to being a bitch.
>>560247783>basic shitdisappointing, not even a single deadlock character
>>560247761>frenchThat is cajun, it's a dialect born from french.Now why drifter is using it who knows, maybe he was french like a thousand years ago so this comes easy and helps him go undetected as a run of the mill vagabond
>>560247043>dey can fite back bu it wone matta
>>560243627hebelock stays winning. troonguard stays losing
>>560242561Its ok, once you realize they do literally no damage and that you're in absolutely no danger; things become a lot easier.
is egg op now?
Does Geist dislike Drifter? Theyre both frenchies
>>560247940>want to play as Mina>too afraid to get aggresive in their face because of the low health and don't want to feed
>>560247925I'm basically straight but maybe a bit bi cause I like futa shit and feminine femboys a bit too, the femboy was 69Pixie_Dust69 on pornhub>>560247993There's not enough material yet
>>560247940it doesn't help that mina's gun has some of the most bloom in the game so even if your aim is alright sometimes your shots will just go wide anyways
Please tell me people here don't get off to 3DPD
>>560247291It's been a blast. Never seen so many league babies so outrageously upset outside of a lol thread
>>560247387for shame these are days of abstinence
>>560248362I do half and half exh and 3dpd
>>5602483623DPornDeadlockyeah
>>560248362this is retard central bro of course they do
>>560248362>>560248465wtf are you retards even saying
>>560248362i get off to erotica
>>560248362there are normalfags here unfortunately anon
>>560248184Always was.
>>560248362i jack off to sillytavern chatbots :)
>>560247620>Nothing changes everyone who is OP is still OPI know Yoshi likes Marvel Rivals but he didn't need to copy their balancing
>>560248362I only jerk it to dog/horse porn
>>560248540they are putting virtual women above real women, 3DPD = real womenMaking more sense?
>>560248618I like to convince graves that the only way I can pass on is if she jacks me off in the cemetery
>>560248004He went went mia from the vampire society in the bayou. Killing whoever he wanted then throwing the remains in the river for the gators
>>560248706Female feral?
I will build headshot Holliday, cap niggas for 1.2k hs damage, get 10+ plus hs kills, and still be the player that does the least hero damage on my team and there’s NOTHING you can do to stop me.
>>560247620>DoormanHe's actually relatively fine to deal with now that he's not dealing 25% of your health per bell but I don't disagree he's brainless bell spam still.>McGinnisLegitimately received a .1 adjustment to her ultimate and they called it a day lmao.>Calico, WraithYeah in both cases they just walk towards me in a straight line until I die.
>>560249141>1.2k damagemeanwhile doorman throws two easy to hit bells and nukes your hp from china
what does ivy actually smell like though? wet moss, stone, or mexican?
>>5602485403d pig disgusting, opposed to doujins, newfag
I asked my friend for a beginner build and he gave me one for Calico since I told him I like Demoman and Scout but I'm seeing everyone complain about Calico so I'm worried I'm going to learn the game with a character that will end up hindering me
>>560249221tortillas and beans
>>560249221feces
>>560249221Probably just like stone and vines, so pretty inoffensive.
wait wtf i didnt even realise there WASNT a comp mode so standard is just comp always?
>>560249367If you don’t know what you’re doing picking Calico will not be the smartest decision. She’s strong but also very squishy and vulnerable if you’re clueless on what you’re doing. Start with a m1gger or a more tanky/utility character to learn the game, Calico is a roamer/assassin, you need to know what you’re doing in order to perform well, if you fall behind with her you’re dead weight on your team.
>>560249732um yes
>>560249367Haze is a good character to learn desu
>>560249047male and female non-humans yes
>>560246342cutest dork
>>560248362I love real women, its a shame they're terrible people
>>560244218Do you remember launch-day Sinclair?
>>560249367try venator he's pretty simple
>>560239814This is exactly why I play Kelvin btw
When is this game getting it's Yasuo?
>>560250543player wise it's literally Haze, the most ego inflated, rank inflated, self centered toxic retard babies ever
>>560250285Does anyone remember current Sinclair? I'm sick of these motherfucking retards who pick him in my shit elo and think they're more clever then they are. Comparing them to actual smurfs playing Sinclair who solo carry the game it's night and day.
>>560250543we have lash, close enough
>>560249367If you like scout play Billy with the scout skin on
Golden Goose Egg is ready!
Silver beans
>>560250285NTA but unc ain't nobody play this dogshit when the map was gray corridors, I got into the game with old gods new blood my fav part was real cool looking epic patrons and base design instead of the creepy weird floating robo baby
>>560250543Apollo?Haze/Seven players encompass the yasuo mentality however.
>>560250820zoomertardGOD
>>560249989Respectable
>>560249732Street Brawl is PvP mode. Moba mode is Pve casual
If Haze/Seven players are the worst who are the best?
>>560250954victor players
Gonna start getting egg on mirage and sell at like 12 minutesNot like I do dmg early anyways
>>560250954Paige players, they're good boys...
>>560250696I was referring specifically to anon referencing new characters sharing animations with seven. Launch Sinclair had seven's movement and gun even lmao>>560250820>unc>I am referring to something that happened last year Sheesh you're getting aura farmed lil man. What's your cortisol?
>>560250874crazy how someone might be low iq enough to think this
>>560250404He probably wont get nerfed either, seems pretty balanced
>>560250954Support healing gooman players are the best followed closely by the psychoGODS who can still win on Grey Talon in these trying times.
>>560251116>*High IQftfy
>>560251116>they hated him, for he spoke the truth.
>>560251091For some reason it feels like forever ago that deadlock became semi open beta, not just a year or twoSinclair model is a travesty for some shit not from 2023
>>560250696>Does anyone remember current Sinclair?>I'm sick of these motherfucking retards who pick himYou're a fucking idiot son.
>>560251091desu I don't think a hero launching with unfinished elements is as bad as newer heroes getting multiple polish passes(ie mirage) while we still have stuff like the nerf bow casino granny and space jap, it's the time stuff spends unfinished rather than stuff being unfinished that is weird
>>560251620You make a good point and it's super strange to see. It's like the dev team are completely without management or guidance from anyone and are just spastically bouncing around doing random retarded balance changes. They need to admit they don't know what they are doing and ask Gaben for help.
>>560251895Just do whatever you want idgaf-gaben
>play kelvin>decide I want to support my team>they suck ass>decide I'm only going dps kelvin from now on>win my games by killing the enemysupport in this game is dogshit
>>560236905They smoke lots of things
>>560252072only below ascendant
thanks dev team for keep calico and wraith in this dumb state for a month thanks devs! :)
Updated smell chart
>>560238997>Self bomb gone>Echo shard nerfed>Stacks nerfed>Meta heroes can get out of his grasp>Hook nerfedBut bebop will be eternally nerfed because he rapes noobs with bad positioning and pros hardly care about him
>>560252361Why would Venator smell bad, he's carrying around a censer
>>560252361seven doesn't smell bad
>>560252392>Echo shard nerfedwhat
>>560252157you don't understand icefrog jacked off to zaawaadi 2 times now calico NEEDS 200+ extra souls every kill she just does ok, its reparations
why the fuck does bebop need to scale fucking infinitely for hitting his stupid fucking bomb
>>560250543Haze or Seven.
Look at this the entire game is decided minute one because the enemy team has all the retarded heroes
>>560252528It used to be non imbue, whenever this was changed I remember nay, was a powerful move to hook, then a few seconds later hook again or being able to double uppercut etc.
>>560252430He smells like cigar smoke and incense, it would irritate your nose so badly
>>560252361There is no way in hell that Celeste smells good
>>560252594Whatever person is assigned to him as a pet project refuses to back down on it and just keeps reducing it. It's the only sensible explanation. They'd rather cut out a part of the map than remove it
>>560244687>You get to bring 2 heroes>Honest
>>560252361>all niggers in the smells good halfdisregarded
>>560244489>going up against a fed to fuck Bebop>Mo and Krill ult him>I send him to the Hotel>Mo and krill refresher and ult him>I throw a cart his way to stun him after it ends>get an all-cap racist tirade against us by himMight be one of my proudest moments
>>560252361Doing this to Venator while he jerks me off
Why ever buy cult ballsack? Is it for sniping a big creep and then running back to lanes? I just can't find out why I'd ever make the diversion, I'm either able to farm past its worth in either stats or souls, or I'm too poor to justify bumrushing it
Pocket is the only spirit hero that feels satisfying to play because of his piano gameplay. I may be a gun nigger.
>>560253261mina is a spirit nigger that plays like a gun niggerim learning her rn, but shes weaker than ever for pubs id say, still, playable
>>560242994>uglycoalneck yourself pretty please
>>560250543when they add yamato, the real one not kaori, as a ghost
>>560244031i like this skinattempted at drawing it
>>560252361where is silver (wolf)
Solo queue pubs btw
>>560253150By the way if you Hotel someone under M&K Combo he's going to spawn stuck to the ceiling in the hotel hall unable to move.
>>560253728decent list but doorman being above victor rn is just dishonest
>>560253512Very cute, anon
>>560253782Oh fuck that bug's still a thing? Duly noted next time I get Mohammad on my team
>>560253728>apollo s tierhe falls off late hard. Just kite his stabs early
>>560253861Make sure your Mo knows too so he doesn't think you just wasted his ult
>>560253794Haven't seen many carry victors but I'm an emissary shitter so
>>560253728>Kelvin A
>>560253728Move Doorman and Apollo down to A right above Lash, move Kelvin to beside Ivy, move Victor up to S and that's about how I see it too, yeah
>>560253512gooning to this later
>>560253512Bien
my POV as hardstuck oracle
>>560253861Yup, works best when you Hotel First and M&K grab him in the split second before they get teleported.
>>560252361taking deep inhales in apollo's collarbone while i powerdrive his cute loose hole!
>>560253728>lash>athey ruined him low b tier
handbuild
>>560253926The amount of movement he gets with abilities is just crazy, really hard to pin down if no one pays the silence cuck price (rarely)>>560253968Tbqh haven't played him much since a while ago but his ult still can turn games>>560254001Doorman has a lot of escapes and the "fuck you" ult means he's always has another escape or utility in team fights>>560254267He's not what he used to and a lot of meta heroes soft/hard counter him but the ability to position people around is still great.
>>560253160bbbbased
>>560254297Seems op, gonna play wraith with this because she has 4 hands
>>560254398It is but he's fairly non-threatening later on. Either lock him down or ignore him
>>560254239This is probably the most accurate list I've seen based off anecdotal personal experience.I would move Haze to S, mainly because of unstoppable ult build haze.
>>560252487He smells like burning>>560252936Rem says she smells like peppermint, and she's a carny so she probably smells like funnel cakes>>560253574The same as Silver but with sweaty dog
>>560254297why would this be best on? im thinking celeste
man I cant get graves even if I put her on hi prio oh but i can get holliday every single time man thing sucks
>>560254612shiv or geist
>July 18, 2024 - Base damage reduced from 5.0 to 4.5>August 29, 2024 - Bullet damage growth per boon reduced from 0.55 to 0.5>October 24, 2024 - Base bullet damage increased from 4.5 to 5, Bullet damage growth reduced from 0.39 to 0.36>November 21, 2024 - Bullet damage increased from 5 to 5.2, Bullet damage growth reduced from 0.36 to 0.34>May 8, 2025 - Bullet damage reduced from 4.68 to 4.4>July 4, 2025 - Bullet growth reduced from 0.16 to 0.15>October 2, 2025 - Bullet damage growth reduced from 0.15 to 0.11>March 6, 2026 - Bullet damage reduced from 4.59+0.12/boon to 4.45+0.06/boon>March 10, 2026 - Bullet damage growth increased from 0.06 to 0.08
>>560254870Her gun is cosmetic, not meant to deal damage
>>560254870>winrate never recorded below 52% >still bitch and moanI hate ivy players
>>560254297kino build
>>560253512that's lovely
>>560252124I am in ascendant. Ascendant 4 actually. I've had better teammates in Phantom!
>>560254984them and sevenalways good, always viable, always bitching
Does anyone actually play Calico because they find her kit interesting? Or are they all desperate win rate chasers?
>>560254870>growth went from 0.55 to 0.06 at one point
>>560252956>he doesn't like a brawl robot scaling off fightingI think bebop's design is fine, he isn't even great right now unless you run him as a tank.
>>560255115they are all meta slaves
>>560255115>are they all desperate win rate chasers?yes, nobody plays, mains or likes her and anyone that says otherwise is lying
>>560255115I only play her while she's "nerfed" you literally can't queue for her anymore everytime Yoshit gives her like 2 damage people start spamming her and her winrate skyrockets(she was never bad)
>>560254973This. Her gun exists to secure/deny souls.
>>560255115I refuse to play black character unless they're S tier then I will, rn playing both wraith and calico
Silver is genuinely F tier this patch.
>>560255214this comes off as sarcastic but I can't help but believe what you typed at face value, because that bitch is booooring.
>lane opponent turbo minion denies>we're at alchemistPipe down nigga, you're not going much further than this
Why is it when I'm on lane both the enemy laners focus me constantly but my lane partner never shoots the target I'm hitting?
>>560255115Wraith and Calico only being played by metaslaves is simply a form of reverse slavery where whites have to play as black characters in order to win matches
>>560255214>>560255616Unironically bad taste. She's the most fun ane most mobile assassin in the game. The only one who can get in and out of any situation if they're good enough. She's got a good VA too just needs a better design and hairline
>>560255740considering barely anyone denies up until archon maybe he is
>lane is doorman calicowow i didnt want to have fun anyways its cool
>>560253512>On paper tooDamn, this general lacks of more drawfags like you. Good effort
>>560255740>>lane opponent turbo minion deniesThat's when you start punching the minions to secure souls
>>560255819I like playing lash and I find her kit to just be lame, the only interesting part of her kit is her 4 and her 3.
>>560255836He rage quit after dying once
>>560255115I couldn't tell you what her kit is it's that boring, she turns into a cat and goes invisible in her nigger mode that's about it.How does her crazy cat lady aesthetic have anything to do with going invis you tell me man, why not make her turn into a dozen different cats that run different directions and do damage instead of this haze smokebomb on steroids.
The only time I want a surrender option is if the enemy team is just stacked with the newest stupid heroes in the patch like I dont want to play 40 minutes of that but a surrender option would be awful
how many people work on this game? seems like it gets no updates other than just new characters every few months
>>560255973I genuinely don't even understand the point of Calico's ult, it does tickle damage
>>560256102we just don't know
>>56025610250 at best, and how many games really get 6 characters every few months?
what do you do as vindicta if they get knockdown just be useless?
>>560256179it's a built in counterspell/chase down/escape tool.
>>560256315dispell magic
>>560256102>seems like it gets no updates other than just new characters every few monthsThere are games that have hundreds (some even have thousands) of people working on them that get LESS updates
>>560256179??? it does good dmg + its legit invulnerability and dodge attack/spell button, its the strongest part of her kit besides ofc the endless free souls shit
>>560256315She can parry in Flight now so pretty much always get Counterspell.
>>560256315Dispel the first oneCounterspell the second oneJust cancel and land it there's a third one
>>560256315counterspell/dispel magic
>>560256315u already playing vindicta nigga u useless af
>>560256102>>560256195>people find out about deadlock through leaks because Valve was completely quiet about it>Valve which had spend the last years just sitting on their asses barely keeping their existing games functional and making stacks off of Steam>playing it requires inviting because there's no early access>blows up despite the fact it's in beta and not even officially available yet>mogs other games to death by simply existingDeadlock truly is something else isn't it
>Enemy has advantage>Buy counter item>The counter-counter item costs the same>Enemy still has an advantageIs this peak gamedesign?
>>560256567>>560256620>>560256389thanks anons
>>560256179>300 damage + .6 scaling>turns into 410 damage + .6 scaling>that turns into 410 damage + .6 scaling that heals you for 350 + resets your cds >is uselessYou might be retarded it's a contender for one of the hardest hitting ults in the game, especially if we're going off DPS for the channel.
ayo shuckle i didn't know you was a 'channer https://x.com/ssshuckle/status/2032508544604389827?s=20
BRO IT'S OKAY FOR VISCOUS TO MACHINEGUN SPAM LANE SIZED PUNCHES BECAUSE YOU CAN PARRY THEM LIKE DAIGO UMEHARA
>>560256761had it not been leaked, would development even continue?
>>560256890I mean, yea I do, but most people can't and it becomes exponentially harder if there's a full fight going on. 1v1 I parry them with about a 90% rate. I think he should be gutted and puddle punch shouldn't be charged, period.
>>560255115Literally what is interesting about her?You just smash the keyboard and kill someone
>>560256815You also might as well get Rebuttal too. People don't know that she has Parry yet, usually, so you can get some free damage plus it reduces Parry CD by 2 seconds, which also helps your Counterspell.
>>560231060can we get some SMASHED and SLAMMED silver wolf form art?
>>560256778The counter-counter-counter item also has the same cost, you have now excuse dumb fuck
Send the devs to Iraxi whatever that place is i hate them
lost 3 matches in a row, ask me anything
>>560256778what is the counter counter item vs dispel magic? cursed relic is ass
>>560257270Why do you like playing Silver so much?
>>560256778If you get Silencer, Inhibitor, and Crippling Headshot, maybe even divided amongst 3 heroes, Victor's heal is cut to about 15% and will die. You simply have to land your shots.
>>560256761its a pretty good game, but the shilling as its like the best thing ever is insane imo, so many people will try and be disappointed or scared offit remains true that deadlock is a super hard game to get into and needs a really good tutorial before even considering releasealso valve are lazy asses
>>560254239What the fuck killed Billy to that low
>>560255115roaming around the map and catching people off guard in the jungle is really fun yeah, i like playing her even when she isn't meta. I'm glad they changed her 2 to make her more accessible but it's annoying that everyone seemingly wants to play her now
why the fuck is kelvin allowed to exist
>>560257270favourite green item?
>>560257370>have to sweat my ass off, make a specific build and have perfect aim>Victor only has to press 2Cool
>>560257495see? fuck that nigger heroremove from game
>>560254870Dont forget when Ivy had her melee damage reduced to be worse than everyone else in the game for no reason
>>560257514Return Fire.
Playing as Lash is prerry fun but I feel like I lack the damage most of the time. Even with the items and shi.Maybe I'm playing him wrong bro idk
Why is this ship so good and why does it make people seethe so hard?
>>560257514Divine Barrier
>lose all desire to play after one match against calico doorman wraith and mcginnisgood work yoshi
>>560254870Sorry Ivychuds but you're meant to build Spirit with Tesla bullets and Mercurial Magnum if you actually thought you were allowed to shoot things. >tether grants bullet lifesteal stilllol
>>560257661it's not a ship there were canonically engaged and one of them went to live in the sewers to escape the other
>>560254984>hey guys we reduced dynamo's gun damage from 48 to 1 per shot>but buffed his belly pound damage to 9 trillion>what why are you complaining his win rate is good
>>560257661nina was set to marry into pockets familypocket gets assassinated before the weddingthats it
>>560257552Victor needs to get Torment Pulse, Rapid Recharge, and Infuser at least, and that's just on himself. You can split the 3 aforementioned items. Crippling Headshot requires 1 headshot every 6 seconds. Silencer requires 1 body shot every 6 seconds. Inhibitor requires some build up, but that should go on a very rapid firerate character anyway.
>>560257661>>560257853>no BPD vampire fiancee
this game can be the funnest game ever one match and then the next is like playing some chinese f2p mobile game the next match
>>560253512ivy still the best
>>560257330The obvious reason, of course
>>560257853>>560257937They love eachother THOUGH
>>560258141pocket forgot who mina even was
>>560243350just don't have a main? cringe concept anyways, people obsessively identify with characters and artificially limit the fun they could be having
>>560252797maybe if you're a pussy
Silver is still shit because redditors cried that fucking hard.Meanwhile Victor dominates the game for multiple patches.
>>560257330Xe gives xer gender euphoria.
I heard silver players can't look in the mirror because it causes mental damage
>>560258294sounds good to me
hahahahahahahahaha oh i am really enjoying this game right now. this game is very enjoyable to play in its current balancing state, and games like these are just a joy
>>560258294Furries are the most oppressed class on the internet after Gamers.
ivy niggas really complaining when she is an s-tier hero right now. If anything she needs more nerfs.
>>560258294>even after the final "can't win night shift" cope was dismantled live on stream shitver downplay still continuesImagine how bad these furries have to be at the game to genuinely believe le furfag of free rampages is underpowered
>>560255616no sarcasmshe is ugly, she is bland, she has no reason to exist in the game, her pressence and her lore is nonsensical >she is a monster hunter like GT and shiv>but she is also a hitman and everyone knows she is one with no consequences (aka a criminal like drifter and vyper)>but she is also a librarian (like paige)>but she also collects artifacts (like paradox)>but she is also super rich (like geist, even more apparently) >in fact she is so rich The Hideout is hers>and she also has a familyshe has a lot of things going on and not a single one is interesting and her unfinished model, clothes and overall style is repulsive
>>560258294*bans victor*counter this
>>560258141mina was only in it for the clout and couldn't care less about pocket dyingthats what the fanon is for
I won't be able to play Deadlock for awhile, I'm being deployed to Iran...
remove most spirit scaling from healing abilities and give more items "increased healing" passive
>big youtuber makes video on Deadlock like they're giving us the scoop>100% of their footage is them playing with 5 of their orbiters where they all cheer down the mic when youtuber does anything
>Ban Wraith>She's still in every single one of my gamesWHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS SYSTEM
>>560257883gun dynamo stomp was obnoxious as shit
>>560258462>no tank>1.5 hard cc's Just by juggernaut or colossus and roll them
>>560258294Yep, redditors hate fun and will keep upplaying Silver because they are retarded troons.You even have some of them in here, insisting that Silver isn't and overnerfed piece of shit hero.
>>560258529ban doens't work dumbass
>>560258552Watch out for tornados
>>560258462Your team?
>>560258619Trying to one-trick silver and had her banned in one of my phantom lobbies. Why would you ever ban her when NIGGER ELO HITLERs like Wraith, Ivy and Calico exist?
>>560258484this character is obscene, the kudzu change is retarded and her ult being up so frequently makes her roaming insane
>>560258462Look, it's Ivy on the team there!She's cute!
>>560258509counterpoint, silver is only picked because there are only 5 front liners in the game, 1-2 are usually banned and abrams got nerfed super hard
>>560258790No reason to ban Calico because no one plays her
Mirage is currently the most honest hero in the game
>>560257661A lot of pairings with Mina are good
>>560258294rivals style balancing, werewolf in my face=insta gutted. Aura doing a trillion damage during a teamfight and eating all the farm? its not in my face all the time so its fine
>>560258807>this character is obsceneI agree. She should cover her flat titties.
>>560258839there are still calicos in like half of all my games
>>560258839most picked char in every elo above ritualist shitter bro
>>560258807ivys ult cooldown is one of those changes that even the most brain dead retard wouldn't think helped the game. i never played dota 2 so i don't know how these devs do patches but it feels like they're intentionally awful and disruptive to balance
ascendantgroid btw
How viable is melee Ivy right now stonebros?
>>560257007>had it not been leaked, would development even continue?Valve is loaded with developers who all double as designers who just do work they want to do, if it hadn't leaked there wouldn't be a lot of people peer pressuring them into working and it'd still be dragging along at a snails pace as they just autistically grinded on inane shit.
>>560259136>peer pressureiirc, most people say the dota/icefrog team are close so I doubt they have to beg others for work
>>560258826You people were saying she was underpowered before the nerf. Then she was nerfed, and instantly won a tournament. There has never been and will never be a more overpowered character in this game than release day Shitver, it's not even close, and yet you were downplaying even then. The downplay has absolutely no correlation with reality, it's just "please let me rape the game for for free and if you don't give me buffs you're a bigot."
>>560259136valve being sued left and right rn since their beef w the rotschilds gabe will start cracking whipstrust the plan
I can't believe it took this long for people to notice Calico is OP as shit
>>560259273>There has never been and will never be a more overpowered character in this game than release day Shitver,Quit dramatizing fagRelease Silver was fine
>>560259256>iirc, most people say the dota/icefrog team are close so I doubt they have to beg others for workIts not them peer pressuring each other, its people outside of valve/valve friends forcing expectations.
If I want to improve should I build an item to counter each enemy or just the one that has several kills during laning
>>560258928>How would you feel if you didnt have breakfast today balancing
>>560259273She is underpowered, your only evidence to the contrary is a minuscule set of matches played by a minuscule group of players. It's literal nitpicking of the highest degree.Your upplaying has no correlation with reality, then again you're a troon so I guess it's par for the course with you.
>>560259273Now this is mental illness
>>560258462>No frontlineLiterally just kill them
>>560259501but i literally did have breakfast today
>>560258552Thank you for your service young man, come back safe and play more, it keeps us in buisness..t Yoshis personal elo assassin
>>560259097probably not the best ivy build but now it's genuinely viable on ranks where most people play with their display on
>silver upplayers becoming more deranged by the dayHow many of them will join the 41% when they revert the nerfs?
>>560258565That's just how league does it
>>560259273hope you're trolling
>>560259081Rem is better than Paige at everything she does. You're also massively downplaying Doorman, Seven and especially Dynamo.
>>560258565>>560259757Please don't do that.
silver is annoying as fuck and i'd rather lane agaisnt calico and wraith>b-but she's strong!>b-but she's weak!i don't care she's annoying
>>560259837I think it's been established already that you're mentally ill about the character
>>560259673Im buying Echo shart for stone form
>>560259837yeah man, the nigress with a tp 30 meters away at will button and the other one w invulnerability and also a dash is more annoying than silverfucking pisslow thread
>>560259921i hate every character that isn't victor/drifter/seven/rem so that's not exclusive to silver
>>560258641>no tankyou act like having a tank matters in this game
>>560259983>>560259921>>560259837now kiss
>>560254870>But duuude, just buy capacitor, poison rounds, ricochet and glass cannon and then her gun will actually do damage 35 minutes in a match!I remember a time where you could actually farm creeps without being forced to buy monter rounds every fucking time, or when you could actually deal some damage in mid game without relying on some secondary spirit damage. If it wasn't for capacitor, not even the most obsessed gun ivy cultists would play her.
>>560259757>>560259810yeah, and in league supports dont get to do thousands of damage AND get their utility. niggers like rem and paige just get to have nukes and massive damage while also getting no net negative on their utility and supporting ability. im sick of these fucks dodging the nerf hammer because trannies play them
>>560257581I don't get kills with Lash. I fly up into the air, ult the enemy team into our walker, and if my team doesn't get any kills from that, I disconnect.
>>560259925It's like I'm really playing Abrams!
>>560260083If you want support bitches to suck dick and place wards all game just go play that instead
>>560259745>46% winrate in pubs>cant carry a single night shift game>needs a trillion gun items>needs a trillion health items>stamina mastery and phantom strike mandatory>hard countered by pretty much every active in the game and half decent positioningsilver derangement syndrome needs to be studied. Outside of baiting furfag tourists, hating silver has to be the biggest self admit ever
>>560259793haven't had any issues with them yet so they won't go higher still, personal based on soloq experience
>>560260034It really doesn't. But Calico/Ivy are serviceable in the role anyways so I dont know why hes complaining.
>>560260034>You act like having a viable comp matters in a competitive game So this why you retards complain about carries.
>>560260158strawman argument. never said they should be bad. try again retard
>>560260171>>560259745on the official reddit the mass concensus is that silver pre nerf was like the most broken thing this game has ever seeni just don't get it
>>560260171you wouldn't care if silver was a guy
>>560260083>niggers like rem and paige just get to have nukes and massive damage while also getting no net negative on their utility and supporting abilityRETARDIf you're going pillow rem you're naturally giving up buying a lot of utility you BABOONSame with dragon paige
>>560260206by late game everything does so much damage if you take 8 seconds to kill instead of 4 it's not that big of a change
>>560260154oh yeah? Can Abrams fly when he ults?
>>560260262>you wouldn't care AS MUCH if silver was a guyftfy no thanks necessary, you're very welcome
>>560260305>giving up utility>when all his shit just scales off the same spirit hes already buying>the difference between a "support rem" and "spirit nuker rem" is maybe 2 itemsthanks for showing up to thread. glad you got out after school activities early. hopefully you'll graduate with being only 4 years held back
>>560260262If the kit was fun (it is) and got nerfed for no reason (it did) I would (I do)
>>560260053Ivy is shooting people with a pellet gun.
>>560260083Oh wow, a character who is innately powerful, but doesnt have any tools to skale into lategame besides buying utility for their team.I wonder why Icefrog of all people would do that
>>560260053Ivy is a melee hero in laneHer gun doesn't exist beyond proccing items
>>560260526>>560260485>guy characters nerfed>barely a peep>furry waifufag bait nerfed>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA for 20 generals straight over a monthya ok
>>560260371>Can Abrams fly when he ults?Did they ever fix abrams sliding off all the buildings diagonally to cross the map with his ult at 1000 mph
>>560260371>oh yeah? Can Abrams fly when he ults?
if silver was a guy i'd suck his dick thats how much i love silver
>>560260628legacy gun Ivy will rise from the grave and rape you meleetards in your sleep
>>560260350Thats actually a huge change for most champs.Thats an extra rotation for a lot of late game champs, time for a support to get off a heal, living through one stun so you can pop another defensive.
>>560260759you can technically still get gun ivy online but you are reliant on gambling with jungle buffs which isn't great.
>>560260675Silver fans run this general peepsqueak
>>560260724This but only if he was cute.
>build purples on dynamo>1 gains a dozen stacks and is the length and width of a football fieldlollmao
HEADED TO YELLA!
>>560260262Silver should be female but Human mode should be timid and pathetic.Werewolf mode should be more confident and rapeyFixed Silver. no need to thank me.
>>560260487You didn't buy the DBYou didn't buy the health novaYou didn't buy the curse/disarm/silenceYou rushed boundless and said 'muh spirit scaling'This KINDA works for Paige to some extent but even she should be buying utility instead of doing your spirit memes
>>560261007>>560261007>>560261007
reminder not to listen to retards who tell you to "build like a support" because if you give an inch they'll take a mile and scream until your entire inventory is active items
>>560260768>living through one stunif you get charged by abrams you are not surviving no matter how much health or resilience you haveyou're just gonna get dogpiled on by every other burst ability
I thought I saw someone say Silver
whats the abrams build nowadays?
Does Seven's Power Surge count as 'on-hit' effect?
>>560260759Oh no!?
>>560260825Maybe egg, monster rounds into dagger could work. Opening rounds is pretty good too right now.
>>560261119It counts as dealing spirit damage if that's what you mean
>>560260825Unless they bring back her base damage back to 5 and partly revert her boon scaling back to around 0.30, then gun will always suck in the current spirit meta. Some people accuse you of throwing if you go for gun ivy in current patch
>>560261070No one has talked about her this thread.
>>560261062>In this hypothetical where we're discussing the value of building defensive vs a team with no tank/initiation what if they had a tank and initiated Holy shit you cannot be this stupid.
>>560260759Melee Ivy is a retvrn to tradition actually
>>560261335Does plated armor do anything against it?
>>560238961The actual combo is more like >kudzu>vortex web into the kudzu>stoneform on top of them>arctic blastBut I would argue simply having echo shard and another stun is way more impactful. Still does burst and hard CC > soft CC. Not to mention the extra invul and heals.
times gooned to overwatch characters: 50+times gooned to deadlock characters: 0
>>560262187>goonedI fucking hate you stupid zoomnigger peices of shit I hope you get cancer and die.
>>560260759melee and spirit are the real og ivy builds though, and support but we always made fun of themgun only became a thing when they started nerfing all the actual gun heroes but not the support heroes like kelvin, ivy and dynamo so therein spawned their gun builds
>sinclair on team>28% chance he'll be an unstoppable rape machine that will get most damage dealt>72% chance he'll do nothing and then dieVery slowly but very surely people are learning how to play this fucking cunt and once that starts happening we're in for a world of hurt.And that includes you sinclair players because they'll get him nerfed.
>>560262624you are literally a tranny
