Motivation Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-220287>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>560458625
Why do motherfuckers need to always take the highest risk highest volatility plays available? Why can't people just be happy taking a wave and stealing a a couple camps?
I think they should buff Silver.
gay sex with apollo!
>>560490561maybe you should stop being such a fucking pussy
I think they should buff Infernus!
>>560490561One day you'll learn
>>560489884You just know Graves pussy got that terminally ill racehorse musk, stank must go absolutely retarded
I struggle to understand why people find the main mode more enjoyable than Brawl.Souls is just an annoying mechanic and 6v6 feels incredibly deathball-y, less individual skill expression than Brawl.
>>560490753Learn WHAT nigga?
>>560490796It's more skillful and strategic than brawl
New paradox is so obnoxious
>>560490796probably because they like mobas
>>560490732they need to change cancelling his dash being done by pressing it again and not by jumping so i can jump over graves' shit
>>560490561INEEDTOFEEED
>>560490561Extreme pressure and risks lane phase then get lowest death in mid late game simple as
>>560490796brawl is literally deathball simulator>skill expressionlol its literally rng too
Is Drifter a pedophile
>>560489884
>>560490796brawl is fun but brainless and dictated by team comp 90% of the time. there's a reason victor has a 70% winrate because people cant do anything but fight him there's no macro or strategy. Half the casts ganking tools dont even matter in brawl since it's just fighting constantly.
>>560490796*drops piano on you every 6 seconds**shoots lasers around myself every 10 seconds*heh nothing personell just skill expression
I always end games with little damage done on RemI'm leveling pillow last so I guess that's it?
>>560491261I'd tell that sissy to pee his pants and he'd probably do it
Any idiot just starting out can recognize the feeder rushing off on their own to their death, it doesn't make you smarter. What's harder is to recognize when you should have capitalized on an advantage and played more aggressively.
>>560491245drifter is many things
>>560490796because I don't want to RNG into the counter items
silver's musky, dripping, puffy cookie
>>560490796brawl is slop
>>560491029>>560491089she has weak nipples btw
>>560490796you cant do the build you want>want to play spirit drifter>only get gun itemsit's also not 6v6 so it's orders of magnitudes less complex of teamfights
>>560491383I one time unironicly came myself after a 30+ killstreak on Mina.
>>560490796I like being able to counterbuy for one player in specific as the Ding Dong Ditchman for maximum seethe and Brawl doesn't let me do that
>>560491261mina piss
>>560492398
>>560491261"can I drink your cute girlpiss"*gets banned*
>>560489884When victor dies, his penis detaches as well? I am more inclined to believe he simply doesn't have one and was made like a ken doll.
>>560492991What raped community do you hail from
>>560492878It was very sticky and I was very confused at firstI think I just like her voice
>>560491261Mina forcing Paige to hold onto her umbrella and her handbag and her panties and her skirt and her gun while she goes pee.
I got fed on Drifter and ran down anyone I wanted. If the enemy went to come help I didn't care I would kill my target pop ult and zoom away. This dude is a certified rapist.
>>560492878what doujin is this pic from again?
>>560492398>>560492878Reminder>Mina mains all started HRT very early. Now when a Mina main orgasms her wiener, unabe to grow hard even when aroused to climax, can only produce a thin trickle of impotent watery seed. It also means Mina players derive more extrinsic pleasure from losing(because taking a lot of damage and dying many times triggers their buttplug constantly) as opposed to intrinsic pleasure from winning a match.>In other words all Minas you encounter that do good = normal people. All Minas you encounter that do badly = cute trans girls cumming their brains out and barely able to keep from falling off their chairs when they get beaten to a pulp by Abrams and Billy again to hit the 0/20 KD
yes i WILL carry the lobby on mina going 15/3yes i WILL only do 2nd most damage on my teami love low damage mina :)
>LIFTING
>first match of the day>20 minute long stomp with some autist repeating "Silver please leave Silver please leave Silver please leave" the whole time
>>560493608>all Minas you encounter that do good = normal people.so we're calling schmovement twinks on adderall normal now
>>560493787>*counterspells*Honey this isn't gonna work out well for you
>>560493787You forgot the Lifting Black Woman Gyatt.
Why do they give me the Calicos who have the lowest net worth on the team
>>560493940Deserved for playing S*lver.
Can I get please get spoonfed, what site or chatbot is this?
>>560494463I wasn't the Silver but it was still fucking annoying.
>>560493947>schmovement twinks on adderallLiterally me wtf?
>mid 3 times in 25 gamesso, what is the rigging mechanism that decides how to restrict mid? is it some left over from 4 lanes where parties get mid priority?
>>560494632what?
>>560493608>>560493372alright enough chitchat lets now talk about some REAL SHIT instead
>>560494786TIK TOK HEAVY LIKE A BRINKS TRUCK
I NEED werewolf silver to cover me head to toe in her pungent dog piss!
>>560494842kill yourself tf2troon
I'm having more fun watching people hate this patch online than I would be if I was playing it, feels like once the new heroes settle people lose the honeymoon phase and start getting riled again that fundamental problems keep coming back with a vengeance
>stalk my ex's socials>she's larping as a vampire now and paid $1000 to get her canines looking like vampire fangsI dodged a fucking rocket fellas.Haze deadlock siphon + healing tempo + frenzy raidboss secret chinese technology
>>560494786Underrated
Why do bebop players pull me in as Venatoryou will get gaped I'm sorry that's just the way it is
>>560495023Nobody cares, Pocket
>>560494786That pic is lacking Krill helping take the photo. Like picrel
>wraith's ult is on a 52s cdicefrog is a dirty fucking piece of shit and i don't understand how he keeps getting hiredthis shit fucking sucksthe balance is goddamn atrocious and all over the place
just realized if you hold billy's 1 he floats for a little before going downwhy would you ever hold it
>>560495023I knew a girl who had fangs. I wish I had mentally ill gf with fangs.
>>560495473just buy unstoppable
>>560495513aura farmingalso sometimes people counterspell 1 and if you know they're gonna go for it you can just float there and laugh
>>560490561It's fun, same reason you melee & heavy melee early game >what you stand to gain100 dmg which is fucking pathetic>what you stand to lose3 second stun where you take double damage and will be fisted for 300 or 400 before they fill you with bulletsand even then i go full melee when i get a abrams or a billy duo
thinking about how shit this game would be if last hitting only gave the last hitter souls
>>560494485>not futadon't know don't care, + you're a silverfag
>>560495473>he keeps getting hiredunless i'm misremembering he only ever worked for valve and briefly on heroes of nerweth
Sex with Venator
>play at certain hours and get chill teammates and fun games>play at other hours and get cancerous games from both sides filled with chinese namesi think i cracked the code
>>560490561It's called limit testing little chudling, you'd understand if you had even a nanogram of testosterone in your body.
>>560490561The game theory in complex games is hard to visualize for most people. Compare to a table game like mahjong, where you can very quickly grasp how to play in a way that mitigates risks to perform consistently.
Girls having relations with other girls
>>560495473>ult timer is 52 seconds>magazine size is 52 rounds>deck of cards is 52holy kino... icefrog does it again...
>>560496029wheres the fic nigga, writefag that shit so i can read it
>>560490561sorry but if i get off my ult on silver i WILL be charging in (i am very bad at the game so it means a lot to me when i manage to hit the enemy team enough)
>Their team: two Eternus players>Our team: A fucking Emissarydeadlock has the worst matchmaking i have ever experienced.
Doormina
>>560491364>*drops piano on you every 6 seconds*finally ran into this yesterday and my team was actually in awe of how broken that shit is
Am I retarded for buying Spellslinger on Silver?
>>560496161I don't know if you're referring to someone in particular but I am a writefag I just have a hard time finishing fanfics cause I also write for my jobSowwy :(
>reach archon>still consistently winning>no longer carrying every gamePain
>>560496349>I also write for my jobAI is replacing you
>>560496339that... seems kind of overpowered now that I think about it>t. not a silver player
>>560496402>completely unprompted ai spergingWhat time is it in Mumbai?
>>560496349i dont care nigga i want more deadlock content to read. half the shit on ao3 is fujoslop and im not gay
>>560496553>im not gayBwoh theres like two dee el gee fics rn and they are both het pairings so go jerk off or feed a game on Rem instead of kvetching here
>I really need to get my tubes tied...If you had to guess, who said this line?
Deadlock survival horror game starring Venator and Paige
>dynamo with an autoparry script on fucking street broolsome people are way too sweaty
>>560495758You can just edit it to say she also has a dick.
>>560496892I swear people only do this in brawl too lel
>>560496734>two dee el gee ficswhere
>>560496892if you smack someone every time you get near them eventually they're gonna just start parrying lol
emptying my disgusting ojii-san warden balls inside the enemy team's mina after she feeds me for the 3rd time
>God, I hope I get to fly to mid!
>post feedback 2 weeks ago>views: 1fuck you yoshi
>>560497245Have a public meltdown about it
>>560490796>less individual skill expression than Brawl.bait or mental retardation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=IHDrYp9GyPEi don't like that deadlock doesn't have close games, everything is a stomp one way or the other, AND you can't FF on top of that it's bullshit, in league i would never FF because the games are always close but in deadlock I'm just wasting 20 minutes on a losing game. i think it's the lack of objectives, mid boss is just too hard to reach and gives a strong buff most of the time no one tries to steal it, it's hype when i manage to reach in time and attempt a steal but that's rare
Are Mirage's mark pops still completely busted?
>>560496785Uhhh Abrams
>>560497093>do random light swing 10 feet away from them>they parry every time without failhmm...
>>560497297The latter, his point is that someone more fed then you will win in normal deadlock without much of a fight happening because of the soul gap while in brawl you both have the same amount of items item tiers, and kills points
Put all the brawl items in the main modeIt's not like the balance can get much worse
>>560496431I'm not sure why people don't build fire rate on Silver. She kinda gets a double-benefit from it because every hit she does in wolf form builds another fire rate buff stack. For Spellslinger specifically, no matter what, every time you ult you're basically instantly getting 4 stacks.
how
>>560497316Deadlock has an awful design issue where it's very easy to catch up on a micro scale(literally just farm and bounce waves and you can end up going even on souls while being 0/8)HOWEVER the losing team, once it starts losing, gets crushed on the macro scale>Lose your walkers and the enemy gets more slots>Lose your base guardians and the enemy ziplines faster>Lose your shrines and the enemy creeps get buffedThis means that if the winning team fumbles and takes multiple bad teamfights in a row, the losing team that SHOULD have an opportunity to launch a comeback play ends up bottled up inside their base. You could say "well the winning team earned that advantage by taking objectives" which is true, but then why make soul disadvantages so easy to catch up? You end up with potentially 50-minute games where the "losing" team has their items and is now online and has won the last 4 teamfights in a row all inside their base, but they can't do anything with it except push waves out a little before they automatically bounce backThe result is this gay little humiliation ritual/mandatory gametime investment where the losing team, despite managing a soul comeback, is bottled up in their base anyway, waiting until their item slot disadvantage and difficulty in contesting midboss eventually drowns them 20 minutes later
>>560497712base guardian buff is the biggest one it basically kills that side of the map forever because the enemy team rotates instantly
>>560497670sleeper agents>>560497712good explanation desu>The result is this gay little humiliation ritual/mandatory gametime investment where the losing team, despite managing a soul comeback, is bottled up in their base anyway, waiting until their item slot disadvantage and difficulty in contesting midboss eventually drowns them 20 minutes lateryeah that shit fucking sucks, tho idk i feel there's more to it, like i never got a moment like this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NI_nA8YqT58 in deadlock and i don't meant particularly because the towers are cosmetic, i mean that everything feels like you're going through the motions even tho on paper deadlock should have more depth what with all the movment and whatever
Haze is Missing
>>560496029Yes
>>560498079>mina is 180 cm and silver is taller then her i don't remember how tall but like 190 cm or 200 cm>holiday is a 165 aggressive tsundere who's always talking about the lawIMAGINE, silver would just carry her around the house and bend her over furniture to knot her repeatedly
>EU hours is just talking about futa(tranny) pornhmm
>>560498248mina is 180cm? since when?
>try out the new "unkillable tank" victor build from the #2 ranked victor>it's somehow worse than metro's buildWhy do these fucktards keep trying to re-solve a solved character?
>>560497616I've seen builds that suggest spellslinger but never tried it myself. When do you buy it?As for general fire rate items, I think they don't give silver enough to justify buying them compared to other options.
I don't know how the fuck you deal with Infernus early game
>>560498567dont let him shoot light you on fire
>>560498482you made me second guess my self but nah I'm right, she's 178 cm which is 2 cm shy of 180 cm, silver is 189 cm which is 1 cm shy of 190 cm>tldr mina is 180 cm and silver is 190 cm
>>560498506>retard player does better with a retard's buildwoah...
>enemy has Wraith>enemy has McGinnisI abandon, simple as. Not worth my time playing against dishonest overtuned nigger characters.
The hit of getting a sick hook is the only thing I have left.
>>560498636she's wearing huge heels
>>560497316Well there's close games in the sense that you can be winning the whole time and styling all over your enemies, and then one or more retards take a stupid fight that lets them get rejuv and you lose.
>>560498758Well said.
>>560498443https://youtu.be/gT2wY0DjYGo?si=GvhITV3H4cBS0hd9
>>560496339I don't think necessarily retarded, but it does seem kinda overkill unless they've got heavy attack slows like K*lvinBuilding some fire rate is good, but maybe not THAT much. Sure it helps you get your wolf stacks faster, but those only give you attack speed as it is, which gets a bit devalued by buying attack speed of your own.I dunno. Might be good I suppose
>>560498729Both of those builds are shit, anon.Victor is a spirit carry.He's been solved for half a year.And yet these people keep trying...
>>560496029https://files.catbox.moe/d4xv58.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/7vyfee.png
>>560498636>full blooded asian woman being 5'8"hmm i don't know how i feel about thatalways thought she was a short stack
>>560498786i don't make the rules, it says ≈180 right there>>560498828fair enough but that's my experience, most games feel like we're just going through the motion, the most interesting part is the laning phase but after that everything feels like idk what's the proper word to use here but "boring"? in league it's the opposite where the first phase is the most boring and "traditional" but everything after that is up in the air, it's anyone's game, maybe it's because every lobby i played in had players who played super safe or maybe the game incentives that kind of playstyle but ultimately i just feel like there's something missing and i don't what it is exactly
>>560499120Heights are pretty whack in deadlockBilly's a fucking giant
>>560498528I guess that's the main problem, I buy it pretty late. Second tier IV after Unstoppable maybe.
>>560498248>Holliday ties Silver up with her lasso and soft doms her>as Silver gets hornier, she transforms into a werewolf and they switch and Silver hardcore doms Holliday
>>560499120She's a giga stacy
>>560499268Billy gave himself a goat head for nothing beyond inhumanly ridiculous strength, he better be tall.
>>560498636>>560499239Where is this reference sheet FROM though? its not something valve uploaded
I would worship Geist if she let me.
me after I swirl my fingers around in silver's unwashed sheath, collecting as much slimy, musky doggy smegma as possible
>>560499565mina...
none of the male characters are hot at all. you have so many normal young adult looking girl characters but no male characters.silver, mina, graves, geist, celeste, holliday, paige, and for the guys, you just have one sub 5 asian
>>560499056>role reversal and small dombased>>560499330>wolf form is 3 meters tall, literally double her higher while hunched overShe's getting mindbroken and brat tamed so hard that she'll never move on from silver, always knowing who her alpha is. Just imagine her form 12 hours later when silver transforms back only to be met with holliday shaking with her face down in a puddle of drool and her ass up in the air all scratched and spanked, red from the abuse, she'd be a half conscious mess barley able to form words
>>560499268>Billy's a fucking giantOnly if you measure to the top of his horns, his actual head isn't that far off most of the other non-ixian men.
>>560496553>half the shit on ao3 is fujoslopMore, by a wide marginIf you're looking for actual F/M stuff that just leaves 125 out of the 684 stories there>>560496734>twoTwo isn't many at all, really>>560497090The four we've got to my knowledge are>.45 and Cosmoline - Ivy smut>Served Ice Cold - Vindicta footfaggotry>Reckless Behaviour - Silver smut>Calico Slept Through Her Alarm That Day - Mina/Pocket oneshot (not smut)
>>560499694WRONG
holliday is so fun bros
>>560499694Abrams, Apollo, Doorman, Drifter, Lash, Mirage, Mo, Pocket, Venator, Victor are all hot
>>560499364I'm not gonna join the discord to find out whether they're posted by devs or just throw together by fans.
>>560499364>A reference sheet of the hero Silver, sourced from a thread on the official deadlock discord server >https://discord.com/channels/1231286446472691825/1277818644327563345
>>560499762There are FOUR dlg writefags? What the fuck
>>560499846Dynamo...
>>560499694abrams, venator, victor, and drifter are all extremely hot what do you mean
>>560490796>Gun Talon fucking us up in regular"I buy knockdown">Gun Talon fucking us up in Brawl>Don't get lucky and roll knockdownGG
>>560499929Three, .45 and Cosmoline + Served Ice Cold were by the same guy
>>560499694There's literally a gay FAGGOT who is so in love with the GAY BARA designs that every thread he talks about how he wants to get FUCKED in the ASS by VENATOR and ABRAMS yet you somehow missed him every single thread? The fuck do you want if ultra muscular baras don't tickle your homo fancy? I can't think of anything gayer
>>560499762can a nigga get some links
>>560498878Does attack speed not scale linearly?
Why do you have more air control going backwards holding S?
>>560499694>Abrams>Apollo>Doorman>The Lash>Venator>Victor>Drifter (this is the most thirsted over male character by female players)
>>560497316There were close games last patch. For some reason they were retarded and gave you an insane amount of souls for destroying objectives which is the most simple and dumbest way to ensure snowballing.
>>560499694Infernus is hot
>>560500106Literally just copypaste the titles and look them on man>Waaah spoonfeed meKill yourself
>>560499764>>560499846lash is ok, just very mid and old and that mustache is bad and he reminds me too much of dudley from streetfighter so that's already zero sex appeal. and pocket is the sub 5 asian. doorman is mid, like tintin >>560499981they are not. abrams looks like a slightly better looking ron perlman which is still ugly as hell. maybe venator if he was younger. victor looks like a homeless drug addict. i want someone like garen from league.
>>560500106>he lacks knowledgeyou don't deserve to be spoonfed, you were already told the answer
>>560500106No.
>>560500143source engine shenanigans
>>560499694I will agree that Apollo and Doorman are the only ones designed for straight women.Drifter I guess too but for the more freaky.
>>560500106>can a niggaStopped reading right there. Fix the hate in your heart.
>graves does a "skulls build">gets instantly made useless by one person with ricochet
>>560499694i can't put into words how much i want to fuck victor. to tear his stitches and place my fingers in his wounds and organs, to see him crying and whimpering for me until he goes nonverbalthe artist i really like saw my fanfic and i think she will do an art about it
>>560500178>>560500242>no one spoonfed himYou're alright sometimes /dlg/>>560500172>Infernusidk i always saw Infernus as cool nigga, like a friend or a cool dude as opposed to abrams and drifter, mind you I'm not gay so what do i know
>>560500261Victor appeals to straight women too, he's got that twunk goth look and yumes love self inserting as Paige with him
mina's face looks kinda weird in-game ngl
I want to buy carpet and float around like a tard so bad but schmoovement makes the item a throw buy.
>>560500462Looks perfect to me
>>560499762>Calico Slept Through Her Alarm That Day - Mina/Pocket oneshot (not smut)Did that one ever get written, I just remember someone posting about the concept weeks ago and then disappearing
>>560500261apollo gets heightmogged and doorman is just creepy. the way he runs is weird and his job and uniform is low tier, just statusmogged. it reminds me of that wes anderson movie. nothing hot about that.
>>560500315anon? at least put him in the cube after
>>560499804Preventing them from ulting or canceling channeled ults with lasso is the best feeling. Good play on that Geist anon.
>>560500315holy shit calm down paige
>>560499694apollo? victor? doorman? pocket? infernus? drifter? there's plenty. i'm not even counting the ones that gay guys find hot (all of them)
>>560500183just admit you're a pederast
>>560500106They're all on Archive Of Our Own, not to be rude but what >>560500178 says isn't untrue>>560500129Each % of attack speed is inherently less valuable than the last because you're reducing a value, not increasing it. If you've got a gun with a 1.00 shots per second and you get +100% attack speed, it goes down to 0.50 shots per second. If you get another +100% (for 200% total), it goes down to 0.25 - half as valuable for your final DPS as the first 100% was.It's not always that simple in practice because of fire rate slows, limited time windows to actually hit targets, etc etc shit like that. But since werewolf form inherently gives like 80% attack speed once it's stacked, that makes you getting 66% from full stacked Spellslinger not quite as impactful. I think it might still be situationally good like against fire rate slowing heroes, but fuck that's an expensive buy
>>560500467be free
>>560500538You just sound like an idiot
the game unironically does not have enough stuns. so many times I see some faggot doing something and I try to interrupt it only to remember that I only have "immobilize"
>>560500467How are you supposed to use it anyways? As a get away tool like the old ivy ult?
>>560500467Turretmaxx on Ginnis to retroactively justify its buy with the 15% ability duration increase that barely adds 3 seconds anyway kek
Let's see what this dick can do
>>560500496that anon posted a screenshot of the textbox yesterday so its still being worked on afaik
>>560500496It was just uploaded earlier today I think
>>560500545>>560500584you guys don't get it victor is such prime gore and emotional manipulation material it makes me so sad this is the only art with it besides the slop i make
>>560500604i said i want someone like garen from league. how is that pederast?
Mo & Krill ult should do no damage
>>560500786He's bland as fuck. Are you shitposting?
this game is getting less and less fun with each update and the boring moba aspects get more and more reinforced. its turning to shit and I'd say its going to kill the game but there are a significant number of subhumans who find this kind of shit fun
>>560500659>anvil>ivy stoneform>combo karieem>abrams with both ult and and shoulders boulder>>>>>>>>parrying>lighting scroll>paige ult>seven 3 which has a small cooldown>apollo's gay stun on top of him jumping everywhere >holliday's 3 second stunwhat more do you want? you at least get 2 from items even if your hero had none somehow
>>560500462>upturned gook eyes>round face>full lipsshe literally couldn't be anymore perfect
>>560500912paige ult fucking sucks bro it's so jank I'm sick of that ability missing for no reason
>>560500887hotter than every character in this game. and if there was a character like him in the game, he would be one of the most played just bc hes chad. guaranteed
>>560500869Don't get grabbed
>>560500786So just so i can understand you want a bara like abrams but with a hairless cute guy face? Ambush i guess but that's not 100% accurate, anyways closest we have to that is victor>good looking>muscular shit brickhouseunironically what's wrong with Victor?
>>560500971>said anon as he ulted from his base to the enemy team who were on the other side of the mapyou can double jump over it, that's why you always miss, but from close range at tier 2 there's no way you're fucking missing
>>560500772i hope you get the victor gore art you crave so bad soon sis
>>560501131if the fight is occuring on a slope of any kind, the ult just goes over or under them
>>560500636>>560500129>>560498878Just buy burst fire, the item also gives you move speed. Is what I would have thought at first but fuck if the reload speed isn't amazing.
>leaguetranny has the most boring taste in men imaginablenot surprised
>>560500496https://archiveofourown dot org/works/81240351
A large part of my frustration with this game is that 75% of the cast have abilities that can hit you through walls/around corners but none of my favorites do. It's bullshit.
>>560500947Paige's face model outside of the character select looks insanely fucked up on the other hand
For me it's Doorman mindbreaking Mina
>>560500772i feel for you although i just want abuse ryona and dubious consent, full gore is too much for me
>>560501046idk man victor is just ugly to me. i dont like long hair. has a horse face. it dont have to be bara but like a normal good looking guy with a well kept masculine haircut. arthur morgan. akihiko sanada. shirou emiya. nick wilde. peter sutherland from netflix's the night agent series.
>>560500676That's the thing, you'd use it before enemies get close since it's easy to anvil it. And if you are using it to push lanes then what the fuck are the hyperlines for, the only use left is for going between lanes... But you have thirtyfive quintillion vents everywhere on top of schmoovment. It's a throw buy no matter what due to the cost and arguably shit stats for the price. The only real use I've seen someone have was a clip posted here of abrams ulting with carpet and using it to chase and slam wherever but it's still a meme.
>>560500636But wolf firerate is ramping You need some firerate to ramp faster
>>560501352You're gay
Since when did tumblrtroons post on dlg
>>560498030>on paper deadlock should have more depth what with all the movment and whateverThe movement tech doesn't really matter in most of the games I playThe only tech I use are just quirks to characters IE:Haze ult being able to crouch so you slide down slopes to catch up to enemies
They need to buff silvers thighsHer ass looks BBL like rn, big glutes but thin legs
>>560501487they've always been here
>>560501487they dont. go back to sleep
>>560499694TRVTHNVKE.>>560501193Kayn mogs all of this hellgame's male cast.
>Holliday would beat her kid >Geist 100% beat her son as a punishment >Mina would be a tiger mom >Silver would send her kids to adoption asap >Vyper would eat her kids
cant remember the last time I had more than 2 consecutive games in a row I didnt have to run 3+ comeback urns for it to be even be a close game
>>560501532zamn
>>560501532>Kayn mogs all of this hellgame's male cast.>just a shirtless dude with a scythelike I said, the most boring taste
>>560501595You can legit carry any match below Phantom by just playing Doorman + Ivy and doing urns nonstop, only taking breaks to lanejanny
>Shirtless nigga Deadlock good>Shirtless nigga League bad
>>560501669I played Ivy and ran urns with a friend onceWhile flying we could see 5 of the enemy team waiting at the dropoffOur 4 teammates in a 4v1 situation were all farming jg instead of pushing anything and in fact a creep wave killed our green walker while I was flying around near the urn dropSome people in this game are so retarded that its a societal blackpill to play with them
Why have I seen three gun rems in a row nowAnd why does it keep working because stupid fucks can't stop dying 7 times in 10 minutes
>>560500636But by your numbers, that 2nd +100% attack speed is actually giving you more DPS. If your attack does 1 damage, your default DPS is 1. If you have 100% attack speed and your attack now takes 0.5 seconds, you have 2 attacks per second, so your DPS is 2. If that 200% attack speed gave you a 0.25 second attack, then that would be 4 attacks per second. Which is 4 DPS.I don't think it actually works this way, I think 200% attack speed would give you 3 attacks per second? But that would mean that the scaling as far as DPS is concerned is linear.The other thing is that it takes a pretty long time to build up that 80% attack speed, you don't have a ton of time in wolf form with your buff up. So priming it with some attack speed to start gets the chainsaw revving much faster.
>tfw you cant climb any more because youre not unemployed enough to learn movement abuse Guess Im too unc for this game now, at least I still have dota
I thought my taste was boring, but at least I'm not as bad as someone who thinks Garen is the hottest guy ever.
>>560500659if you can't get a kill with an immobilize you might just be hopeless
>>560501839>Teams lean heavy spirit>Gun rem gets extra mileage thanks to thatIts that simple
I can't carry this shit man
Marci mogs Mina btw
>>560501487Take your pills anon
>>560501864i didn't say that. its just scientifically a fact that he's chad. and he is the 27th most played character when he has bottom 10 one of the most boringest kits in the game. ppl play him just bc he's chad. that's the power of just being chad
>>560501951we didn't even feed the yamato and calico in lane, they just farmed our team afterwards
>>560501856It's really not that hard yn you'll figure it out quick.
>>560501275the character select uses the same ingame model...
>When you see the enemy Rem with a big soul bag
Can someone explain this item Cultist Sacrifice, it keeps saying "Requires target NPC" when I'm trying to use it in training mode
>>560502338I know that but ingame you see her face from a different angle and holy shit it's completely flat and she has almost no nose
>>560501487wdym anon, the two sites have been merged ever since 4chumblr
>>560501518Reading now and thinking it over, i think a part of the problem is there being not roles, everyone is a laner>inb4 what's wrong with thatIf there are no roles then you can't subvert them, the most memorable experiences i had in lol were when i was facing a garen and darius botlane which is unheard of while i was playing a very orthodox poppy support, and they fucking won the lane, the mad lads managed to win even tho both darius and garen are melee bruisers, another was when i faced ahari toplane while playing brair but that's only memorable because i got raped and gaped top lane, multiple times in a row, i also enjoyed playing tristana top because no one expects the rocket jump escape or the ult that sends them under my towerI guess what I'm trying to say is that in deadlock the gameplay loop and roles are too pre defined, there's not much you can do to shake things up, like in league you can 5 man gank the enemy team level 1, in deadlock it literally forces you into the lane, there are no boxes or jungle or anything and everyone else is in their lane so you don't get much of a choice
>>560501520This.
>>560501985white demons will never mog asian womeneven fictional
what mods are you guys running?
>>560501985So trve!
>>560502678Nude mods for every hero
>>560502678The one that turns haze into weedcat.
>>560501224holy cutekino
I can't with this shit anymore. Phantom V and still getting new players on my team, every game is a wipe. Loser's Queue is very real. Only deranked once thoughie since I'm always key player
>>560501539>anon's barely disguised fetish>>560502678none, but i just saw a holliday model update mod and i NEED to implement that, it looks so fucking sharp and freshhttps://gamebanana.com/mods/656006
Environmental hazards when?
>pick up the game>really like paradox>play a little over 100 games with her>struggle a lot and stay in initiate even though my individual performance is decent>pick up celeste>win every gamethis ult feels pretty unfair in team fights
>>560503146there are the towers that zap you if you go near them on the rooftops right?
how rthe fuck do i stop getting stomped this is really not fun
https://youtu.be/wihHFTapEGk?t=1137Is this walljump tech actually practical? How do you actually do it?
Who the fuck is Marci
>>560502678black paigeblack celestewhite calicoel rem
>>560503363Play Victor. Even if you get stomped in lane, you can just kill lanes and farms for 30 minutes (AND BUY THE FUCKING EGG) then come out as an unstoppable raidboss
>>560503538>>560502702>>>>>>>>davion's cumsleeve
>>560502191I really can't, people fucking bounce around the map like pingpong balls, if youre even 1 dashjump slower they escape and you lose. You basically are crippled in this game if you are not a movement abuser.
What the actual fuck do you do against McGinnis's turrets in lane
WAGIE MINA IS REAL (Her and Doorman are the only staff members of the Hotel)
>>560503831monster rounds to melt them faster (I dont know if this actually deals bonus damage to them)
where do i go to learn everyone's combosmy friend told me calico is 1 > 2 > 4and billy is 2 > 1 > 3 > 1but where do i learn every character's bnb combo, like what should i do as venatorplease help i am new
>>560504000Billy doesnt have a true combo, youre supposed to mix up your double and triple bats with melees and gun to keep them guessing.
>>560503950yep, I run ithttps://gamebanana.com/mods/660487
>>560504093oh i seei havent played any real games, just running around in training mode and bot matches with my friend when hes around
>>560503950>Mina Ha rise up and clean the cum from the bedsheets!
>>560500083Hey, I talk about Kelvin, Drifter, Mirage, Infernus and Lash too.
When will valve add some more lust provoking designs to deadlock? We need a second hero with bare grippers.
>>560503765Watch a 10 minute video and practice movement for another 10, then try out implementing it in your next few games. It is genuinely actually not that difficult.
What the fuck happened to graves? Laning phase consists of throwing jar and playing may or may not target the hero, and if it does the enemy presses q then it's over. I just played I game where I was 40k souls, about 8k more than an apollo with the most retarded build I've seen in a while and it legitimately took me over 20 seconds on non stop skulls+m1 with toxic bullets to even get him low, in the end he just ulted away... This was a phantom 3 average lobby.
>>560503962It just seems like they instantly kill all of my troopers
>win teamfight>4v1>last enemy is a silver with half health, can easily just kill her >both supports, paige and dynamo, ultwow this game is just like marvel rivals
I fucking hate doorcuck
Jesus fucking christ my most recent game seemed like it was full of actual bots
>>560503950>Instantly turns female legs into SEX
>>560504675woah... no way
>>560504832I'd also unload everything I have on Silver
>>560504889It might actually be bots, player count isn't dropping somehow in one of the worst patches in the game's history. And it's been full of baboons in all ranks, but then again, MM is so fucking ass it's putting new players in whatever ranks it feels like.
>>560491371Your main goal in my experience as Rem is to sleep a lot and spit out debuffs and buffs. Think of pillow as more of an execute than as a DPS option. Damage isn't your main priority though those pillows are stuffed with bricks. Focus on split pushing the sides with your chudlings, stealing all the farm you can, and trying to sleep through any team fight you can get to while throwing out debuffs and barriers.
>Wraith with 0 obj damageWhat the fuck
id love to not match against 6 stacks
>>560504984I went to check if it was a new player but steam was private. I have no words for this desu.
>>560504675Graves number are just too low. Laning's supposedly what she's best at and event then you can just ignore her most of the time
>>560505106Maybe the apollo melee animation was too cool, and he had to build around it. It is pretty cool
>>560505125Graves is best at splitpushing, which is something Rem can do better and he doesn't even have to be there to do it
If I could hit my Shiv daggers more than 20% of the time I might get some wins with him no cap
>haze ults>curse>repeat for like 10 minutesthat L>R build probably had unstoppable last kek
I love playing napalm bomber PaigeI love covering the whole lane in shit that slows you and kill you if you stay inside it (you're forced to)
>>560503831Shoot them retard
>>560504675Extremely fair hero that got her numbers cut because no one knew how to play around her abilities immediately after she was released. Now everyone knows what to do and her numbers are low. I don't think the gap between her and the rest of the cast is so huge that she's unplayable but almost every other hero is stronger than her, except Holliday, or maybe Mirage.
>>560498443These are NA and OCE faggots
What is Mo and Krill short for
>rem farming while the entire enemy team is elbow deep in our base>gay chinese buildI'm gonna rape yoshi
>>560505247Does Graves? I thought she just plopped down an ultimate somewhere and that alone creates a problem the other team has to go deal with.
>>560505084>Bro you don't understand. This build only comes online at 60k souls. I NEED to do nothing but farm or else we lose.
>>560505508Mohammed and Kareem
THEYDOLOTSOFTHINGS
>>560505641His whole kit does! With no risk to any of it!
>>560505508Maurice and Krilliam
>>560505247Honestly I think she's really bad at splitpushing because the zombies aren't that hard to deal with, it's not really any different from being forced to respond to creeps hitting a walker because any other hero cleared a wave or two. The ult does more dropped into a teamfight or used to support a push with a couple other heroes.
>>560505641plus a tiny as fuck hitbox so he can get away with doing lots of things!
ok been playing for a month but the game seems pointless. out of the 200 games it seems whoever has less of the 0/15 feeders wins. that's it.
>Play Victor>Wraith, Calico, Doorman, and Mo&Krill end up on my teamI feel bad for the enemy team bros...
>buddy plays wraith and haze>i play shiv>i know we would literally every game if i just played some lane winning support with him insteaddo i cave
>>560505709Also unlike Rem zombies killing creeps is a complete waste, the souls go to no one.
>>560505247>has no natural escape without investing heavily into movement, resulting in split pushing being risky if the enemy is missing>has to commit an ult to even threaten a walker, which can be defended by one m1 carry just killing the zombies as they spawn 1 by 1.>kills walkers slower than nearly all gun carriesgraves just sucks ass in general
>>560505470She and Silver were basically IQ tests that the majority playerbase failed.>Hero who cripples your M1 if you get close but can be shot for free from a distance>Hero who chimps out and rapes you if you get close but can be shot for free from a distance>All you have to do is not hold W + M1 and to buy a Slowing Hex or Knockdown or ANYTHING>Ledditord and pisscord babies scream NERFNERFNERFNERF NERRRRFFF NYYEEEOOWWWWW>Devs cuck and obeyImagine if they had simply let the meta shake out for a few weeks instead of releasing hotfix balance patches every time they saw a heckin downvote
>>560505508Morozovitch and Kirill
>>560506434silver before nerfs had extremely good gap close and could diver guardian at 5 mins lil gup
>>560506434this is verbatim what happened to rivals balancing
Man I cant wait for silver to get real nerffs
>>560505247Doorman completely mogs her splitpush>max door>Bells clear waves instantly>can prestack 3-4 bells on buildings before creep wave gets there if maxed>even if an enemy shows up, you can hotel them and have minimum 4 seconds until you have to place your exit door and gtfo>They could also just die to hotel+Bells>If 2 show up you can cart 1 so far away you can do the same thing>Therefor the only way to be stopped is for 3+ heroes to show up to get your assIt's game winning and makes so much space that your allies will actually be able to win teamfights. Depending on where you place the first door you can even show up to a teamfight as soon as someone shows up to stop you instead of hotelling them, forcing every enemy engagement to be a 5v6
>>560505994Dont betray Shiv, hes too fucking cool
>>560490796>incredibly deathball-y, less individual skill expressionnigga that's just brawl
>>560497670icefrog copied EOMM from marvel rivals
>>560506942whatever this game has its worse, you could abuse rivals matchmaking to eternity if you were good enough
>>560496339There are better fire rate options for Silver like Frenzy or even Healing tempo
>>560506515Slowing hex costs 1600 and turns her off for the rest of the match
>>560506434Silvertroons trying to rewrite history like it wasnt less than a month ago KEK
>>560507124Silver downplayers have a genuine mental illness.
>Silversissies constantly bitch and complain >ShivGODS contemplate in silence as they find a way to go 24/4 it's witchmail
>>560505508Moïse et Krillaume, le copains des égouts
>>560507212Shiv knives are insane now, it's surprising people don't play him more. You hit two and deal 1k damage.
>>560507212Coudnt have said it better myself
>play 50 games on silver>suffer>play 50 games on graves>she's a little better but can't impact the game enough to carry consistently>play 10 games on geist>lobby admin every single gameI haven't played this game since the first batch of new characters but i'm glad nothings changed.
How do I make my Celeste's futa horsecock smaller, it's wrecking her center of gravity and messing with my schmoovement
I hate this matchmaking. I hate this fucking matchmaking.
>>560507352you have a type don't you
>>560507352and shes so fucking sexy
>about to end the game>"YOUR GREEN WALKER IS UNDER ATTACK">"AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE IS THAT A RAT SPLITPUSHING? TIME TO GO BACK TO BASE YABBA DABBA DOOOO!!!!!!"why are deadlock pub players so retardedly dogshit
>>560507471A little
>>560507372Celeste with a small futa cock would be cute
Literally every time there's a Haze on the enemy team she ends up with at least a 15k soul lead, It's happening extremely often and I have 0 control over this as I'm not the one feeding her.
>>560507374>t. pocket when he finds out he has to marry a gook
Landing from a downward dash should give your slide a speed boost
>>560507793Ive seen this episode before. Some retard with a 2k bag always gets mugged repeatedly by the stealth nigger.
>>560506654Not really.In rivals it's popular to scream about and ask for nerfs to healers because "healer meta is OP" while in reality, comps with 3 healers have about a ~42% winrate while the traditional 2-2-2 (tank dps heal) comp is the best with about 50%+ winrate and has been since launchRivals actually does NOT get balanced around the popular narrative, Deadlock seems to be however with Yoshi for example rushing to nerf Silver nonstop because of retarded tournament trannies overestimating her and he didn't let the playerbase actually learn how to play against her, just nerf nerf nerf.Yoshi could unironically learn a thing or two from the chinese, which is sad to say.
>>560507924Just learn how to play her, troon. Its just not as easy anymore, so you might go down a few ranks
>>560507793I'm assuming that at the higher ranks people know to constantly pressure carries and just make it so they don't get to play the game. Because I cannot fucking believe that people would keep playing this game if every match lasts 45 minutes and is decided by character select.Though I have no evidence to the contrary.
why is the game putting in new highs despite no update
>>560508084Brawl probably
>>560508084Everyone wants to get on the Deadlock train because it's the next big thing
FACE ME AND DIE
>>560508152>Everyone wants to get on the Deadlock trainbut twitch stats don't show this
>>560508191people would rather play it than watch it
>>560508258zoomies dont understand this
>>560496303Who's the artist for this?
>>560508191>>560508258>>560508297>You don't understand, I NEED to see an ugly guy's facecam as he plays Deadlock, a free to play game that I could just play myself right now!
>>560508258I like watching it and I'd rather just use the spectator mode. Fuck Twitch and fuck Amazon.
is deadlock going to have in-client spectating like dota?
>>560508570It already does?
>>560508570When you boot up the game, literally just turn around and there's a room with a projector where you can watch any ongoing match live, or put in match IDs to watch replays
>first game as Gravesthis thing is useless. gun graves are hilarious one trick pony and spirit is just pointless.
>>560500183>lash is mid and oldThat's a funny way to say the god of combat and the pinacle of the human form.
>>560502461You target troopers or jungle creeps.Fun fact once you were able to use it on midboss, it wouldn't instakill but when 4 people woulz buy it anyway you would just kill mid in less than a second and no onw could contest mid because rejuv dropped before anyone could come over.
>>560508829Yeah Graves is probably the only character currently in the game that's an actual throw pick
>>560509069vyper
Trophy Collector on Apollo? Seems pretty good to me.He wants everything it offers and it compliments his playstyle of roaming for early kills.
>>560509069Holliday
>>560509229It's 3200 souls for an item that does nothing until you do the things you'd do better with items that give you immediate benefits.
>>560508829>>560509069You gotta be kidding me. My highest winrate is on Graves, about 60%. And I had a 2 week win steak on her until yesterday. I don't even main her. Maybe the character is just isn't for you.
>>560505470Holiday is strong but with a high skill ceiling so she's not as bad, also at the very least with holliday the game plan is clear whereas with graves it feels like there's no clear path to victory or niche you can fill>mirageHis eye ability got buffed so he's not so bad now desu
>>560507501It's fucking infuriating. I don't know how many times you have to tell them to stay together. We had a significant lead and they threw it away because they just started wandering and farming.
>>560509552What's your rank?
>>560509650Archon
>we just won a huge team fight and the whole enemy team is gone for a minute and we have two waves of creeps mid? YABBA DABBA DOOOO TIME TO SPLIT UP AND GO JUNGLE AND THE SIDE LANES
Blackmore Academy, from what I've read, sounds like an anime shounen high school.
>>560509548Is trophy collector good on literally anybody then?
>>560509693I'm only in Oracle but she's never particularly threatening on the enemy team or useful on mine, I was doing well playing her myself until the new balance patch came through and raised the ceiling for like half the cast.
>>560505508Miyamoto & KrillinThey're a part of yamoto's gang
>>560509740It's going to be the primary setting for when Deadlock gets a Netflix anime in 2030
>>560509714Or when they wander off in the middle of a decisive fight. Then they go "Huh? Half of my team just died? Better rush into the middle of the enemy team!"
>>560509864>"Huh? Half of my team just died? Better rush into the middle of the enemy team!"I do this as Victor but only so that my team doesn't get mad at me for farming
>>560509761Fuck no, lmao>but the money1(ONE) wave late game gives 6400, unironically if it's fat enough, otherwise you get 3200, so 4 waves should give you full build>but the sprintdissappears the moment you fight(aka when you need it most) and late game you just go everywhere by zipping, not to mention the existence of dash jumps>but the healthhealth is fucking useless especially when dripfed to you like that but even then, with the health update, everyone has enough health to not die immediately, tanks just need armors, and life siphon is better and does something to the enemy >but the ability range35% IMMEDIATELY for 3.6k is right there next to it, wheras trophy hunter requires that you get 0% ability range THEN get 35 fucking kills, i have not seen a game with 35 kills on 1 person ever>assistsstill bullshit desu, it's not worth it
>lose game because sleeper agent rem farms for the entire match, unironically>win game because i took too many towers and defended our towers with a team that wasn't perma farmingyeah i think I'm done, game is too repetitive, you literally can't shake up anything when everyone is forced into lanes and the meta dictates that taking towers = game over, being a lane janny isn't even fucking enjoyable i want to fight, and worse then that the minnons keep coming one after another not to mention the fact that they TAPE your towers, there's no break to go fuck off and do other shit, not that there's much to so beside fighting but it feels like such a chore, I'm only clearing the wave because i have to and the enemies are the same.I'll probably keep shitposting occasionally here but I'm not gonna touch the game for a while, I'll go check league and the new StS 2, at least until they fix the game, the unbalanced shit is manageable but if the game is unfun and repetitive then there's no solution for that besides changing it
>>560510506unironically take the brool pill
I've been brooling 5 hours a day for the last 3 weeks instead of studying
Official arcanist teammate rating list (approved by yoshi)
>>560507984
I want to draw deadlock art or write deadlock fic or something. The game is great but I want to stop being a passive CONSOOMER and maybe make something but i have no idea where/how to start
>billy on team>10 billion deaths and made of paperEver tim
>>560511146he just needs a gibus and he's good to go
>>560511198kys tf2troon
>>560511119Because of people like you xister
>>560511126Well, I'm partial to writing but drawfags always get better exposure on an imageboard, it just is what it isIf you have an idea for a joke you already know with deadlock characters pasted over it, why not start there
>>560511126Don't worry your pretty little head about it, sweetie <3Why don't you go ahead and queue up for another match?
>>560511210I haven't played tf2 for 6 years
>>560511119>it's this schizoid again
>>560511126just do it niggaset your heart free nigga
>>560511316Watch out, he's in your walls
>>560511230>>560511340My problem is i suck at drawing and writing>>560511252I cant man ive lost 6 matches in a row today
>>560511420Sounds like it's either time for you to do some reading of things you like so you can copy them, or time for some LOOMIS
>>560511420drawing is a long term skill that takes years of practicewriting anyone can do and even if its shit, it's still fun to docmon you know you want to stop acting coy
Is there a spirit hero that plays like Melee Venator?
>>560511513Abrams.
>>560511490technically drawing can be done by anyone and be shit too
>>560511420>Skill issue>Skill issue>Skill issue
>>560511562true but putting out a shit drawing is demoralizing and retroactively makes the whole process feel like a waste
i now understand that this is a movement game>arriving to a fight 5 seconds faster can decide the game>farming more camps and boxes and coming back in time to get trooper lane means 5k souls lead by mid game>escaping/chasing mobile characters requires better movement tech than thembarely anything else matters, aim doesn't matter as much as movement
Tired of carry heroes buying the egg Tired of being outnumbered on the retard balance, if the enemy team has 1 you will always get 2Tired of 20 minute trophy collectors that will never get stackedTired of people not buying Monster Rounds in lanes that basically require itTired of people dying under their t4s mid while we're doing midboss essentially deleting a minute of econ for no reasonPeople in this game are so impressively bumfuck stupid it hurts
>>560511797I just had this realization too.
>>560511845First time being hardstuck?
>>560511797I think Poshypop was saying something similar - if only your movement is superior you'll win the laning phase every single time it's not even close.
>>560511915yeaI felt like I had more agency in dota if I'm being honest
>>560511797movement is a mechanic same as aimneither matter if you're a retard and make bad decisions>aim doesn't matter as much as movementdepends on the character
>>560511952if you're playing scaling heroes then obviously you won't have agency. play shit like calico if you want to impact other lanes >t. calico abuser pre patch and post patch
can someone post the pic of muscled rem? i need it to post it with that shitty pasta i wrote yesterday
>>560511562>>560511664Counterpoint: at a certain threshold shitty MS Paint drawings become SOVL but dogshit writing only gets more dogshit
I always take so long in laning phase that a third person shows up
>>560512371play remginnis with a friend and force the enemy team to send 4 guys to try to push your tower 20 minutes in(its still full hp)
>>560512285thats because drawing (depicting something as it is, no matter how badly you do it) is the natural language of the universewords are words words words that some random niggers came up with that need to then be connected to the real thing
>>560512408Mcginnis needs like a billion souls for her turrets to come online thoughbeight
If I was Pocket I would simply not get married to a retarded gook
>>560512578Mina the kind of broken brained bitch to train kegels so she can squeeze her man hard enough to blow
Seriously though what the fuck is wrong with Shiv playersI have never seen a Shiv not get meltyDoesnt matter if he is 0/10 or 10/0 the guy is gonna bitch and moan and piss himself
>[character] is missingwhat does this mean? is it the "im mad" button
>>560512813steal his sinners and watch the fireworks
>>560512813I miss some knives in a team fight so then I have a melty
>>560509548Apollo is already strong early game though, he doesnt really need much else. When he starts falling off Trophy Collector will be stacked and give him some extra income to be less shit
>>560512813>shiv, haze, seven, bebopWhy is it always these 4?
>>560512889Seven and Bebop are weird because their level of seethe is directly controlled by what items they build>M1gger or hybrid Seven, meta Bebopare guaranteed to be huge retards>Pure spirit Seven, green healtank Bebophave the spirit of the weltgeist possessing them
>>560512842it means someone is missing from lane, but what this means varies from person to personfor example>drifter is missingmeans wander off alone at your own risk, the risk being painful murder and rape>rem is missingmeans he's scouring the map and you need to go punch your sinners before he niggers it away from youetc
>>560512980>green healtank Beboptbf its very hard to be mad when your gameplay loop is running at people with witchmail and punching them
>>560512842who knowsI'll ping a potrait then use the leaving area chat wheel to communicate "I'm fucking off because their giga fed hyper carry is probably gonna come and rape us" but other than that I only see it spammed by people who just diedpresumably they hyper focused on a target and overextended, dying, then to cope they started blaming their team for not reading their mind and over extending with them
I'm about to fucking do it
why are there so many vindicta throwers? anytime i get one on my team, it goes 0-40
>>560512998>>560513063oh sorry i meant in street brawl
>>560513089Vindicta has two kinds of players>Aimgods who want to sweat and active aim the whole match>Clueless retards who think being able to fly will give them some semblance of safetyIts immediately obvious which type a Vindi is the moment laning starts
>>560513089vindicta requires the player to be able to aim, and to buy dispel magic and/or counterspell to counter knockdownif both of these conditions are not fulfilled, you have a walking/flying bag of souls
>>560512813>Shiv playersAny of the ones before the patch were trying extra hard just for average results.They are still the same players.
In 2036 they will add a TRVE M1gger hero. Instead of 4 abilities, he has 4 different guns with separate ammo pools(so not a Venator clone)Switching between them and managing ammo will let you M1gger all over the enemy team but if you fuck up you'll end up doing nothing
touching the floor is fake and gay
>>560513046the punch at max level while 12 slotted does like 100 damage doebeit
>>560513248I want this now
>>560513264It heals you for a % of your missing hp which you combine with Witchmail to be the slimiest little nigger in existence
>>560513251
>>560513089Vindicta has the highest aggro stat in the game, you'll have people literally sliding across your entire team and climbing on roofs just to kill you (nobody in your team will stop them) so you need a pretty good positioning and situational awareness sense to not feed.
>>560512276bump
>>560512276
Is it true Lady Geist runs a shota trafficking ring out of the Baroness and the Doorman helps her
>>560512842>Victor is missingThe timebomb has been set and you need to crush the opponent before the 30 minute mark.
>>560513251>EEI hate this item so muchits the glass cannon of spirit items>if I just hit an enemy 12 times I'll get to do HUUUUGE DAMAGE>meanwhile you can buy an actual t4 and do that much damage right awayif you're not seven or infernus don't buy EE
>>560513531Me emerging from the jungle at exactly 48 minutes having eaten every single sinners on the map for multiple loops
>>560513585I saw a rem build that recommended it but I didn't really understand how that would work, unless torment pulse procs it
>>560513585>McGinnis
I hope they don't nerf melee venator, this shit is too fun
lowkirkeniunely malding about not getting MVP here
>>560513671miku gets a pass
>>560513707What game UI is that, Marvel Rivals?
>>560513652TP does proc it but I still wouldn't buy it on rem, unless its giga lategame and you have all the good spirit t4s already.
>>560513585Works on Vindicta too, it's pretty much a spirit item made for people who can proc it with autos.
I'm autistic enough to get upset when my endgame build includes 3200 cost items with no 6400 upgrades. I know realistically I would never hit that amount of dosh but it pisses me off
>>560513585Pretty sure her empowered bullets after hitting her Q builds EE. She needs to hit her Q for her to do anything anyway so, just build it.
if you guys want real forbidden escalating exposure tech doorman ult stacks it on whoever is inside every second despite only dealing damage on exit
>>560513939but why
>>560513972no idea, nobody ever buys it on him even as a sidegrade. afaik me and my friend are the only people who know because of fucking around in the hideout
>>560513939This and Abrams planewalking have to be the deepest cryptid level gimmick bullshit this game has. Even Doorman out-of-bounds is more common knowledge
>>560513531Thank you based RemGOD
>>560514120one day they will patch out every last doorman door exploit and on that exact day valve will burn down in a mysterious fire and all its employees suffer the black death
>>560513939you sure about that?
>>560513939>Test it>It's realYOSHIIIIII
You're all niggers
>>560514296>niggersStopped reading right there. Fix the hate in your heart
dey cahn haide buh ih wohn mahtah
>>560514120>Abrams planewalkingWhat the fuck do you mean? Do you mean the out of bounds ult spots at secret shop, the wall ults that would go 2000000000 meters or do you mean magic carpet ult?
Mi tink mi gwaan reap what mi sow
Lorewise which Deadlocker is most powerful?
What are the latest leeks?
>>560514529Idk but I know who's weakest>Grey TalonLiterally just some old guy who stole futuristic tech from the Neon Prime universe and hasn't had to give it back yet
>>560514529Doorman.Followed by Seven or Dynamo.>what do you mean dynamoHe's literally walking dying star (black hole)
>>560514529Bebop
DO NOT TRUST THE OSIC. THEY GLOW IN THE DARK
>>560514634Trve. Also reminder for those who don't know that if you're on Team Archmother and the enemy Bebop is on a kill streak, she tells you to "destroy the Scrap Golem" meaning that at some point a rabbi carved the word emet into Bebop's body and gave him life
new viscous remodel leak
Is there a site with proper filters for items so that I can see which items do specific things? Example I want to filter items that do Spirit Resistance. When I apply that the site shows only the items that have that filter on.
>>560514689Ms Shelly is Jewish we wuz Israelites nigga
>>560514689>Bebop ult uses the power of Talmudic teachings to directly attack your gematria
>>560514529Doorman. Hes a god like the patrons hes just having to much fun living life as a, well doorman. If the mask came off he would wipe the floor with everyoen. For bonus in dota the strongest is technically ancient aberration. Hes an embodiment of atrophy in the universe and by the end will be the most powerful thing in existence.
>>560514752Just use the ingame search.
>>560514752
I just had a shiv and infern both go 0/10, not a hyperbole number, they really did. And then start complaining about how the other hero's are op and there's just "Nothing you can do when we are this far behind"... this is fucking phantom btw, some people should not be allowed to play deadlock, or better, we do what marvel rivals does and throw them into bot games and dont tell them they are fighting bots>>560514592Non, no leaks, good chance valve will drop the game.
>>560514869>>560514881Oh shit I didn't know. Thanks.
which deadlocker has the prettiest underwear
>>560514828When I imagine Ms Shelly in my mind I see the mom with the phat ass from The Iron Giant
>>560514923She's an old little black lady. I think bebop is supposed to be a standin for a son she never had.
>>560514901>we do what marvel rivals does and throw them into bot games and dont tell them they are fighting botsDeadlock already does this though, the 70 iq automatons I get in half of my games might as well be bots
>>560514529it's shiv he has that perfect plot armor trio of supernatural powers with vauge limitations/rules, a wealth of connections and experience, and being a cool guy that's liked by most people in and out of universe"but doorman knows the patrons on a first name basis, surely he's the strongest" I hear you say. to which I reply with "yeah, but shiv will figure something out to even the odds, and it'll be really cool and dramatic and you'll clap when it happens"
>>560514921>Holliday, VyperFunctional briefs>MinaLingerie every day, not special, just her usual dress>PaigeThe sluttiest fuckpig thong that has an opening in the front and back just to show off her clit and asshole>HazeFull combat bodysuit>SilverShe forgot if she put on any and isn't bothered enough to check
>>560514689Lady Geist with Oathkeeper has to be really powerful but she jobs to Bebop in the VN
>Lose game convincingly so>still rank upNOOO I DON'T WANNA REACH ASCENDANT. I WANT TO BE A SHITTER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>560514984if ms shelley is black why does bebop talk like a britbong
>statlocker has lootboxes and hats nowBravo Kojima
>>560515083I have like a 33% winrate I think, maybe even lower, and I've slowly gone from Emissary to Oracle. In fact I was Oracle 4 last week but Oracle 6 right nowIdk wtf the devs are doing
>>560515072To be fair she was distracted by the urge to kill Ms Shelly and Bebop came out of NOWHERE with the CLANKER SLAM 9000 and Geist proceeded to get tortured for 6 million years by unleashed oathkeeper
>>560513248
When is the Deadlock dating sim
>>560515263When Deadlock gets its fully release I want a full on media blitz like TF2 had. I want "Meet The Roster" videos. I want an official comic. I want an animated series to get greenlit. I'm a hungry consoomer and I want more more more more more
>>560514869>>560514881Honestly I wish there were tag shortcuts in the shop so you wouldn't have to type out the whole thingJust buttons that show items with the stats on the label
>>560515106her dead husband might've been an aussie. I don't know maybe ms shelly is just a black australian that moved to NYC.
Post your favorite Deadlock fanarts NOW
>>560515106this is the only image we have of her btw. From the (unfinished and most likely abandoned) Lady Geist novel
>>560515470
>>560515646She looks like she... well, y- you know.
>>560515065what about geist
>>560515605>literally just recycling demoman's mom>uninspired black woman of valve inoriginalityVALLLLVE
>>560515731She never wears anything so that when she finds a cute shota she can molest him with the shortest delay possible
>>560515768Black queenz OWN /dlg/, bow down and worship yt boi
>>560514219THE SECRET DOORMAN TECH:Using your ult to apply 1 stack of EE
>>560515979Isn't this just the Concord woman lol
Open beta this year or 2027 ?
>>560515125its genuinely over
>accidentally queue into a match as abrams>he's the most retarded, heavy attack, unkillable spamming gorilla i ever seen and we mow the enemy, even their billy is absolutely helplesscan't believe i'm sweating on bad characters when shit like this exists
>>560514706I get this is a joke but faggots making fan viscous remodels need to stop trying to push the glasses/facial features on viscous. People wanna see the dot eyes.
>>560516268Hazekeks what is this
>>560516314He's supposed to be John Deadlock, most people new to the game play him. Imo they should also push Infernus, he's the simplest and most charismatic carry. For a support oriented character I think Yoshit is trying to push Ivy but she's been permanerfed until recently.
>>560516553Abrams and Infernus looks cool. Ivy is ugly. They should push for Paige or Rem.
Can someone suggest to Valve to add a much more blatant visual indication so that players can much more easily see if they can already wall jump on a wall?
>>560515646silver’s property
>>560516840...?
>>560515125>went 9/2/13>C+???
>write detailed post on feedback forums about overall item display/UI issues>ignored nice 1
Sex with nasty Deadlock sluts
>>560517076You need zingers and safe jokes to attract the redditors and therefore the devs.
Are women like Silver real
>>560517076post the link and I'll consider bumping it
>>560517076>not putting your feedback in the private forums and getting (You)s from Yoshi
>>560517173>>560517193>>560517269This -was- in the private forum and "Yoshi" was the first person to view and ignore it. It's over bros.
>>560517180Alcoholic messes? Yeah. But they don't look as pretty as her.
>>560517324damn....
You can measure the viability of the playstyle by how much the counter item(s) cost.>Melee800 souls and a working F key>M13200 souls>123412800 souls
>>560517324Hey they ignored my post too, shit sucks but what can you do except try again, unless you get banned for duplicated threads.
>>560517360Damn that's sadDo they at least turn into werewolfs?
>>560516992
>>560517076The only forum suggestion post I made was making Warp Stone maintain momentum, like 2 years ago. They didn't like it I guess.
It's kinda awesome how even in the big '26 people are falling for bait
>>560517383>>560517445I think I was pretty straight forward and respectful in the post, but I guess I didn't find it cool that the devs were doing like 100+ notes for hero buffs/nerfs when there are still items that don't display when they're active or their durations properly.
why is crushing fist not part of billy's base build
>>560517324>and "Yoshi" was the first person to view and ignore it.How on earth do you know thatWhere do you see that info
>>560517578It is
>>560517560>I guess I didn't find it cool that the devs were doing like 100+ notes for hero buffs/nerfsif you had any cringy whining in your post it probably got instantly closed
>>560517621they don't or can't hide which users are online, but only devs can view private posts, so you can narrow down who's looking at what
>>560517764It's still open, I save all my bitching for this general lmao
>>560517898you might as well copypaste it here at this point, i wanna read it
>>560502678Anyway are you wokey? Anyway are you wokey?Anyway are you wokey?You've been HitlaYou've been HitlaYou've been struck byA smooth criminalHEE HEE
Man I love this thing so much
just got murdered by my own lash because he ulted and threw me into the enemy team, why can he do that
>>560519035he cant?did they have sinclair?
>>560519406yep, playing the 'lock made me troon out
>play normal mode yesterday>get stomped on one match>next match lane enemy dies five times in lane phase then disconnectsthe fuck
Is Drifter's ult global? If it is, I think I might have found my main.
>>560519609Bro..
>>560519629>100m rangeNo.....
won a 5v6 last night as Rem, feels good man
>Archon 3>14 minute waitOk
>Curse now disables Cheat DeathWhy.Cheat Death already sucked ass, why would they make it completely useless? The enemy team buys curse and now your 6.4k item does literally nothing.
>>560520129Wait it does? Lmao.
>>560520129curse should disable all passive effects desu senpai
>play billy>light melee people all over>they parry when i stop>hit them with the heavy melee as rewardhe's fun
>>560520129>the enemu bought a 6k and disabled my 6kOkay.
>>560519035cute retard.
>>560520274reacting to parries with heavy melee has been the worst habit I've picked up90% of the time I get the timing right and 10% it seems to linger and I get stunned even though they've started walking
>>560517445Warpstone should have a 20m range.
>>560520278Curse is always useful and cant be disabled. Cheat Death has one singular use that can now be completely circumvented as long as a single person on the other team has Curse. They're buying a 6.4k item to disable yours while also still having fucking Curse.
>>560520129>>560520471The only way Curse will ever be balanced is if we get rid of the autistic tiers and just price items for what they are actually worth.
>>560520503Give it -20% damage so it only be viable on supportsEnd game -10% damage doesn't mean much if you can guarantee a kill on the enemy carry
What are the secret wave janny techniques to learn? I know LoL has a few like you can't freeze a lane with less than x minions, but on Deadlock with high mobility I find just shoving waves does the trick most of the time.However I found that I'll often shove one or two waves to depush, and then less than a minute later they'll be back with an even bigger stack to janny. This is of course assuming I'm pretty much the only one being proactive at depushing lanes.
Items should be balanced by giving ALL of them downsides so you have to specialize even harder.
>>560520696you can cut waves but thats as far as my knowledge goesI do it maybe every other game since I play drifter. controlling space on their half of the map and looking for pick offs means I'm usually in place to cut a wave and really don't want to surrender my map presence to ride the line all the way home and to the wave
>>560520696cut waves so the lane pushes back to your toweryou probably already know how to slow down the lane by going only for last hits
>47% wr>somehow moving up in rankingsI dont understand. I mean Im doing well in my games sometimes but I dont think Ive strung together more than a 4-5 winstreak since I came back in January.
>>560521143seems to be happening to lots of peopleindividual performance seems important to your rank adjustment
>>560520320Pocket is so lucky..
>>560521273read the lore, broMina has zero interest in Pocket sexually
>>560521143Same thingThey're probably gonna fuck with rankings soon again, no way they leave it as is. I have sub 50% wr and keep going up ranks.
>>560521246That must be whats going on. I only play utility/support so even if I do well I cant really carry a game past 25-30 minutes if my carry is a retard
>>560521314he'd be able to coerce her into sex by threatening her social status and causing a scene
thoughts on capacitor warden? Think about it
>>560521273Mina belongs to The Doorman
>Phantom 5 and expecting to bump into Ascendant 1 if i keep my current winrate goingwhat can I expect?
>>560521841hmmmmm this feels like NTR
>>560521678gun shoot slow>stamina lockyour humble slowing hex and flask? need you more?
>>560521382(Citation needed)
>ban pocket>he shows up in my very next gamewe still won but i logged off immediately
>Our Abrams built Colossus + Witchmail>Just runs at the enemy team>We win every fight because he's too retard strong
Even pre-ult buffs paradox was actually better than bebop.
>>560521842In Ascendant compared to Phantom? In my experience in EU:>more fighting (mostly around objectives)>faster games (more snowbally)>more comms (50% of which is people flaming each other for bad macro)
When the fuck are these tourist faggots going to stop playing Doorman so his pick rate will drop back down to like 20%I truly don't understand why they're playing him. 90% of the time they play him like a spirit nuker when his damage is literally worse than it was before the patch. These retards are going Bellman and other retards are complaining the he's op when hes almost EXACTLY the same as he was before the buffs. It boggles the mind.
damn hag
>>560521842Probably more fighting at bridge buffs immediately on spawn, more fighting for urn control/delivery, more midboss baiting, as well as better macro understanding overall once you start climbing into Ascendant. That being said mechanics/movement are probably similar. It's only once you get into high Eternus that the actual sweaty lowlife nerds with impeccable movement start showing up.
>>560522529Spectating Oses's movement made me a fan; So clean.
>>560522437do you think geist ever uses oathkeeper to finger herself
>>560522405it's a cycle of abuse. they got molested by a doorman so they are trying to do it to others
>>560522405News "travels" slowly when it comes to people like these. The way it works is>Doorman before being buffed>Mediocre urn cuck and ult bot>Low pickrate>Gets buffed>OMG DOORMAN 10 SECOND COOLDOWN LITERALLY BROKEN slop videos churned out by Youtubers>Redditors circlejerk about how he's, like, literally THE strongest hero right now bro like, like it's not even close bro, he's literally (He was exactly 50% all ranks and 51% at Eternus)This is when all the tourists started high prio picking him so they can do the epic ult reset that they saw their favorite Youtuber do epic style>He gets his bell nerfed to be even worse than it was pre-buff>No videos or circlejerks about the nerf>Tourists are NPCs who don't read patch notes and need to be reprogrammed each time>They keep mindlessly picking hmYou have to wait until the next "DUDE PICK THIS HERO FOR FREE WINS GUARANTEED" cycle to hit for them to move on
finally got invited to try the game and it's too much man. too much reading. too much grinding. too much UI. i just want to fight people with the cool characters. why do you guys have to have all this extra fluff bogging down the gun play?
>>560522804>muh uifuck offf tf2troon
>>560522804play streetbrawl brainlet
>>560515605>most likely abandonedVAAAAAALVE
>>560522804Wanna Q? Post party code
why has eskay abandoned ow and rivals for this game. he will ruin the game with his community!
>>560522529I've seen a noticable difference in mechanics between phantom and ascendant, actually, as someone who recently climbed from phantom 1 to ascendant 2. On average people are a lot better at moving here, feels like I used to be able to get away with a lot of bullshit that I actually get punished for now. I got a bit arrogant and I need to unlearn that and actually respect the fact that there are other people who can catch me now.
>>560522804if you're a retard why aren't you embracing your naturenobody is forcing you to learn everything all at once. just like, play game
Ignore e-celebnigger posts. Do not interact with e-celebnigger posts.
>>560523017she is a talented DPS streamer who mostly focuses on hero shooters like overwatch and marvel rivals.
based janny
any time I hear name eskay, the image if esskayuwu's huge tits pops in my head
>>560522835>>560522858>>560522934>>560522984i'm going to bed
>>560522771Bell was rediculous in lane tho
It is satisfying that the guy who would post about 2K player dips day over day has been silent for weeks
>>560523289Always has been the strongest part of his kit.
>>560523328probably obsessing over marathon or some other pointless drama
>warden throws hook on me>press 2 and latch on to teammate>now he gets nothinglmao
>>560523328chartposting /v/ locust fucks off to the new current thing, many such cases
how the fuck do you do the ult build as seven? should you only ult in your base as a zoning tool?
>>560523328Don't summon him, I am enjoying the tranquility of the thread.
>>560523517Ult is troll outside of shiteloJust build him as a gun/spirit hybrid please im begging you.
>>560523328it's sad anyways that the numbers are decent when the patch is horrible, expect every patch to buff 90% of chars and nerf or don't change the remaining
>>560523517build support seven and pop it when they commit on your carry
so this is the power of wolf..
>>560523435T H A N KY O U !
>>560515106He's a robot, he didn't learn to talk by mimicking his parent like an infant.
>>560523517Pop it whenever they want to fight and you canIt's especially strong over objectives they can't easily leave like midboss or base
>>560523517Get dispel magic and then unstoppable or you will never get an ult off in anything but retard mmr
>>560523615unstoppable + seven ult is core seven gameplay in high elo shitter bro
>>560523829Don't let Yoshi see this, he might nerf her again.
>>560515979Calico will forever be washed up trash until they bring the funny cat turrets backBRING THEM BACK! THEY WERE FUNNY!
>>560523829STOP FUCKING BULLYING HERAWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
remove air strafing from the game dishonest tranny shit
>>560523829Hunter's aura coming in clutch>>560524107They need to give her 3 stamina PLEASE YOSHIIII
Would you let her shit on your face?
>>560515979unironically, what does this character do? have only seen them twice so far and they were genuinely worthless, i explicitly remember her doing her cat scratch thing and watching enemy bars not move
>>560523829why did you parry bro a silver player in wolf form will always just hold m1
>>560524194Throw bombsDashMove fast on map Become spooky ghostShe's actually really good, but almost no one knows how to play her properly
>>560524162no but she can fart on my cock and balls
>>560524194Assassin that instant nukes you and fucks off with her cat form
>>560523829>fight silver as billy>she deals pretty good damage >her ult pops>beat her to death with ease as she was forced to turn into a worse herolol
>>560524162This is the type of girl who never leaves her room and is permanently on social media. But yes, I would let her sit on my face. There's an autistic aura to her that reminds me of cosplayers I've known that would make her someone I'd want to be around instead of the usual eThot sex puppet that does cosplay.
>>560524154>They need to give her 3 staminain wolf form only and you have a deal
I SURE DO LOVE ABILITIES GETTING CANCELED BY PRESSING THE SAME KEY AGAIN EVEN THOUGH I MADE SURE TO DISABLE IT
>>560524458>Unironically doing the "she's not like other girls, I can feel it" cope>for a Twitch e-whore who does slutty cosplayAnon..
>>560524470>in wolf form onlyI'd take that, her wolf form needs buffs since its straight up worse than her normal self right now.If you watch any high elo player use her they will just fuck off the moment ult pops.
>>560490796people have a time-wasting fetish
>>560497616Its because people are retarded>>560500636Your reduction maths are not relevant and it will take too long to explain whyIt would be like saying each value of weapon damage reduces the # of hits to kill the enemy. Pedantically true but not relevant to the relationship between weapon damage and fire rate, which is ultimately what you are choosing between. Fire rate simply scales better because every purchase of firerate also give weapon damage(from shop bonus)so its less diminished returns since the damage is inheritly diversified. It will scale better and by a lot. The only heros who should not get firerate are the burst guns becuase it only affects the time between bursts. Silver is not burst fire ergo its the higher damage optionYou could do a tempo like strategy where you disregard the better scaling for early impact but I think this is strictly worse than the spirit alternatives
we just need an autist to comb through each item's interactions with silver's ult
>>560524573All women are whores, it's the ones you can stand being around at are the least whorish that are acceptable. She at least looks like she plays the game.
>>560522873I still haven't watched the VN thing but I still don't understand why the fuck Geist would go after Miss Shelly.
>>560490568this one's ugly as fuck
>>560524791Its been awhile but she's trying to force oath-keeper on shelly or something like that.
>>560524080Her turrets were fine they just shouldn't have had infinite range + infinite duration. I guess they didn't want to have two turret characters. Imagine McGinnis, Rem, Calico (forma de la turret) and Graves in a match with someone like billy and abrams to act as a frontline. It'd be ass to play against.
>>560524791Miss Shelly is probably an experimented soulwrangler or magician or whatever. She built and animated Bebop
>doing poorly >my team starts doing rly well
>>560524990honorless wins like this make me wanna abandon and i have in the pastbetter abandon than underserved win
>>560489884if Victor is silenced when he dies his ult shouldn't revive him
>>560525362so it indeed doesn't prevent the reanim, that's bs
When are they dropping a new patch?
>Victor is a melee range run at you monster that heals and is cucked by CC>extremely high winrate>silver is a melee range run at you monster that heals and is cucked by CC>low winrateWhy is that
>>560512813YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE ME MAD
>>560525538One got overbuffed for no reason One got overnerfed for no reason
>>560525362>>560525518Silences don't turn off passives.
>start ditching my lane partner and gank on other lanes if my lane partner feeds or sucks>suddenly start winning games
>>560525538Because Silver is only that for 15 seconds every 40, and can be blue-balled out of it if you buy gun resists or metal skin.>>560525632Victor has only received nerfs. Even the "big balance patch" changes were all nerfs to him.
>>560525538Silver gets to do that conditionally for 15 seconds, is melee range unlike Victor, and doesn't have built in dispel.
>>560525538>kit that farms well, strong aoe, sustain out the ass and built in counter to anti-healingvs>kit that farms poorly, abilities for single target burst, minimal sustain
>>560525538Victor is a raidboss in the end game and Silver has negative scaling for the most part.Games will usually go on for 40+ minutes so it favours carries compared to early game bullies.If Silver had released before the patron update she might have fared better since the games were quicker.
>>560525538He's noticing too muchSilver upplayers? We need you here, stat
>start deadlock>realize i hate this patch and don't wanna play this game and wanna go play some jrpg>soft intingi just cba anymorejust seeing wraith in the game makes me not wanna play it out
>>560515979Can I fuck your cat?
>>560525796Counterpoint CHUD: Victor is never picked in night shift where as Silver is first pick/ban!Clearly you're just a low ELO LOSER! and silver is better than victor.
>playing a character that needs to be up close to do damage>enemy have a fed victor
>>560523829If you didn't parry there it wouldn't have been as close as it was kek.
>>560525821like i literally have a tension headache rnfrom playing w these nigresses in each and every matchi can't take it anymore, need a hiatus until shes patched to balance, cya lads
>>560525538>Victor [...] is cucked by CCpssh... nice try... kid...
>>560525909>doing midboss>fed victor that's done nothing but farm all game drops in to try and steal>he gets doorman ulted into venator trap into curse and then when he dies he gets instantly venator trapped and mo ultedheh
>>560521143MMR inflation or maybe individual performance is being taken into account now.
>>560526050>curse>Wraith ult>Doorman ult>Mo ult>Dynamo Ult>Talon Trap>the list goes on and on
>queue with friends>ivy>exclusively get spirit duo lanes>lose lane early either by not having sustain or getting poked out>lose lane>outfarm team mid-late game>win teamfights with spirit ivy ult combo>win games>still get called the deadweightam i the deadweight bros
There are too many grenade spells in this game.
Is there anything worse in this game than laning with a billy?
>>560526167Ivy IS dead weight earlyIf you win and you know you're instrumental in it, they're just being faggots
>>560525538which one has the huge aura of death and AIDS around them and an extra life?
Silver didn't need or deserve to be nerfed.
>>560526167Ivy's laning is bad. She's a mid/lategame gal.
>>560526267No offense but his whole playstyle is being perma aggressive. Would you rather him just afk at walker and play like a bitch?Nigga he will limit test. Take it or leave it.
>>560526274>>560526370one is a mina krill 2 trick and the other mains whatever is metai surmised about as muchthank you chatroom
>>560526167No they're just retarded. Ivy gets value out of mid and lategame not lane phase. Ivy, Abrams and McGinnis are somewhat in the same boat where they do absolutely fucking nothing in lane but can be the reason you win a match.
I literally cannot stop playing goo nigger every game
worst ult in the game? hard mode: Not Silver's
>>560523275I want to rip those veins out of her and hang myself with them, a beautiful death
>>560526840>LOLI don't know anymore since before it was Abrams or Viscous. Might still be Abrams but I've gotten mad value with it recently so not so sure.
>>560526142>6400 souls item that nerfs your dmg just for holding it>is in the Baroness for long enough to recharge and heal himself with his 2s>still dealing damage to everyone around with his aura, comes back with his ult>huge waste if he's by himself, and again he's still hurting you with his aura and comes back with his ultThe Talon Trap was the only good option you mentioned
>>560526840holliday, high as fuck cooldown needs to be aimed and after getting lasso'd you are free to do anything without being slowed cursed etc
>>560526840infernus/warden/vyper/ivy
>>560526840Mirage until you max it, even then it's just okay
>>560526840I want to say Mirage or Viscous but they can have crazy good movement value depending if the player's good but on average they both kinda end up being underwhelming.Warden's one of the worse "frontliner" ones but it's still decent.
>>560526840Warden, but it's not his fault he exists with Doorman running around every game
>>560527112Oh and mina's ult is pretty garbage before getting fed a lot of bats but it can be pretty good even if you're not the main damage dealer.
>pop Infuser>THE HEAVENS BOW TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>you outheal them as they desperately try to burst you down, with a few dying and the rest running awayname a better feeling
>>560526925His aura is trash now, anon. All his damage has been moved to his 1. The aura is just a life-steal survival mechanic now like Abram's 1.
>>560527514>pop infuser, scourge and unstop>phantom strike their carry in the middle of their team>GET THEM MAURICE
>>560527535This is honestly healthier for the game.
>>560526840Mirage easily.
>>560527514Just Ritualist Things...>>560527601Agreed, but it does mean Vic is cucked pretty fucking hard by any Ult, push/lift/pull, or Curse-style CC of which there are a LOT.
>>560527718Is there anyone who isn't cucked by being CC'd or Cursed?
>>560523829Silver shouldn't be able to nearly kill a retard who panic parries. We should nerf her ASAP.
>>560527761HOTFIX NERFS>Nerfed her to 1 Stamina>Nerfed her base regen to 1>Gave her base -18% spirit and gun resist>Reduced her base ammo to 5PhewShe is now balanced!
>>560527758Yes, a large portion of the cast is mildly to moderately inconvenienced by it.Victor (and Silver) is absolutely demolished by it.There is a pretty massive difference.
>>560527923Silver gets demolished by just about everything, literally the easiest hero in the game to counter
>>560525538honestly this does say a lot about how they are designedsilver suffers where victor excels, and victor excels for several reasons>doesn't need to aim for heals>can build spirit, scales well with it, and his stink cloud increases in size with mystic expansion etc.Silver meanwhile, gets one heal on ult activation, plus that same heal whenever she KILLS someone in ult (needs to last hit, assists don't count), heals when she hits her 1, which is short range and a narrow cone so it is fairly difficult TO hit it, gets the biggest heal from her 1 if she hits multiple people with it which is even harder, and her primary source of damage in ult is much MUCH shorter range than victor.I think silver will probably benefit from having more stuff scale with spirit. Mystic expansion and other range/area increases should increase the effective range of her M1 swipes in ult, ult refresh should proc on assists like what they did with every other on-kill hero this patch (drifter, vindicta, calico)her skills should have more interesting tier upgrades to justify maxing 2 or 3 before 1 (all your human damage) and 4 (all your movement/survivability in ult)The alternative is also just making her Lycan from Dota 2.
>>560526840Ivy’s. As ivy’s husbando it pains me to see her carrying dynamo’s fat ass so I never use it
>>560528035Victor is only SLIGHTLY harder to counter since he can purge soft-CC with his 2. Otherwise they have the same problems. Hard CC and kiting absolutely 100% counter both of them.
Silver is trash nowYoshi you're an idiot for listening to pearl clutchers and failed theorycrafter "pros", good job
>>560528050All they need to do is revert the nerfs and she's fine
How come the MM is so utterly fucked that I am getting people with 10 games in Asc 1?And no they are not smurfs, they are clearly fucking clueless
>>560527758depends on the situationmost characters in the game have range and thus aren't as impacted by getting cc'd as characters like silver or anyone who is a melee range/mobile heroevery character is cucked by cc if they're trying to escape a fight
Yall don't understand that Yoshi is in a secret discord with the Nightshift fags laughing their asses off and planning the next batch of Silver nerfs
>ban wraith>have hero I want to play on double priority>don't get the character>wraith unbannedIt's so cool how she gets to be a m1 carry while also being a purple spirit nuker. It's so cool how she gets to be a lane dominator that can nuke you for 300+ at just a few minutes in. It's so cool that she gets a cross map escape. It's so cool that she can go into the jungle and kill any camp with infinite ammo and just hyper increase her farm with no downside.The coolest part is how she gets 6,400 souls worth of item for free on her ulti that gives you a nearly 3 second movement slow and dash cancel.
>>560528291I don't think reverting the nerfs will help her. She was already still dogshit before the nerfs and pros have always been retarded kneejerkshe honestly needs to just be reworked. I think fundamentally silver's kit is just kinda broken in a way that the only way she would be not dogshit is if no one could deal with herbut right now, in terms of m1 carries, you are better off playing anyone else. In terms of tanks, you are better off playing anyone else. Her spirit scalings are not good enough to build high spirit on her either.If lycan curse turned you into a tanky cc machine instead of a rapist carry that needs to be facefucking people to deal damage, I feel like she'd just be a much better rounded hero in general.
>>560528569It's a beta
If doorman gets to be unstoppable for the duration of his ult, then silver should get free unstoppable for the duration of her ult when you fully rank it up, it's only fairdesu I think that'd be a better buff to it than the reset even. Replace the kill reset with unstoppable. You basically never get the kill reset in mid-late game due to teamfights anyway
Loremaster here, Abraham's book is the Torah
>doorman bells got reverted >people who didn't cry about them then still cry about them nowHM.
>>560528569I don't think people have realized the secret tech that counterspell kind of cucks wraith right nowyou can pretty much press parry as soon as you hear "LIFTING" and it will negate the ult. Cards are a bit harder depending on her distance but if she's not in your face you can also just counterspell the moment you hear the card shuffling noise I'm not saying this doesn't make her not broken, mind you, I still think she is, but until she gets nerfed we gotta do what we gotta do to survive
>>560527514is seven's ult him undergoing heavenly tribulation?
>>560528187wait so something like Decay is bad against Victor? Since he can just purge it away?
>>560528713>"let's turn matches into hide and seek every 20 seconds"silvertroons deserve more nerfs
>>560527514>4 enemies in a hallwayi’ll be stackin bodies all night
>>560528841>counterspell her ult on a fraction of a second reaction timeshe presses 3 and holds m1>disarming hexheat seeking card nukesI get that you should read the game and buy appropriate counter items. Her kit is so overpowered that counter items barely do anything. She wins lane, get tesla bullets and comes out of the jungle 10k richer than anyone in the game before 15 minutes.
>manhattan is my breeding grounds!
>>560529626Would breed and make autistic non-verbal children with.
>>560528298As has been said and is unironically true everyone below Eternus 6 might as well be the same rank. Not because they're the same skill level, but because people of every rank get randomly sorted everywhere and matched with each other outside of the top 0.5%
i masturbated to victor last night because seeing him killing an ulting haze with pain battery was eroticthank you for reading my blog
>>560526167Ivy gets value out of her ult being on a 65 sec cooldown that ticks during it's duration and can be reducedYou're not abusing ult.
>>560528037>Bebop won ONE time>Lash kicks his ass every time after>People still argue that they're evenly matched or that bebop is better.idgi
>>560528587She was fine before the nerfs, not overpowered or even particularly strong but at least she was playable
>mizugi graveskino
>>560529626That autism posture.
i masturbated to silver last night because fan artists depict her with a happy trail, which implies the existence of a wild unkempt bush.
>>560525538You can straight up remove Victor from the game with two items, I dont understand why he's so strong
>>560528569>new patch>fags at valve make the blacks S tier because nobody wants to play them
>>560530631Wild unkempt bush surrounding her moist puffy cookie
>>560530721Way more than that really>Silence Wave>Silencer>Crippling headshot>Inhibitor>Toxic Bullets>Curse>Heal baneyou don't even need to follow one specific item, you can just choose what you want depending on the rest of the enemy team.
I'd be two ranks lower if I didn't play victor
>>560530928Inhibitor on its own is good enough honestly, anything else is just extra.
>>560531157I don't disagree but I think pairing it with a silencing item is the most ideal so he can't instantly remove it.Thankfully silence wave is cheap.
>>560528232All they have to do is split the scaling for human and wolf forms so that Silver players can't faceroll like she did on release. Human gets gun builds and wolf gets spirit builds. Increase the threshold for morphing to require some spirit investment breakpoints. Now Silver can be given more item synergies because players have to dump resources into 1 form to make it either scale. Silver only gets the initial power spike if the player already invested in spirit to reach the transformation breakpoint.I'm sure IceFrog will continue to do a great job :)
the same magic that makes silver hairy actually makes her completely bald when she returns she just pauses the game, puts on a wig and paints new eyebrows. you don't realize that because you're also paused
>>560531549Wolf already got spirit scaling bro, it's just ass
>>560531507Do Silencer and Inhibitor end up applying at the same time?
>>560531553she also made me cum while i'm paused
>can no longer kill anyone solo unless I buy a counter item that completely turns them offI am a fucking fraud and I keep winning
>Drifter's 1 and 2 counter Victorhappy hunting!
>>560490561because you can get away with way more shit in this game than in dota because movement is such a high form of skill expression, instead of just a force staff.
>>560518683Dun Du Du Du Dun Dun
>still no balance update
>enemy team has OP heroes>dominate early game>they get cocky and lose midgame>take one (1) bad fight in lategame>they steamroll midboss and seven 1v9s with ult and unstoppablefun
how do you make paradox have more agency in ladder without turning her into a menace at pro level play? As of right now even if I do well with her I have little impact over the outcome of my games.
>>560533065its not the chars fault she got massively buffed
>>560532880Wdym? The balance is perfect now! Ask Victor players!
>>560518683Can Volvo make this a real skin or will they get sued ?
Stomps are ending much quicker in the last patch
>>560533375Victor IS balanced if you are in the top 10% which is all Valve cares about.
He stole her jacket again
>>560532880Do we really need a numbers tweak update though? Feels like a good 1/3rd of the OG cast (pre six heroes) needs a partial or complete rework of their kit. Just because some E6 players with thousands of hours can make some misshapen slop work doesn't mean it should be canned.
>>560533546I mean she's so weak that she can't really stop him
>>560533508I've had a couple 20 minute games recently
>>560529773Realistically how does someone play well enough and impact the game so much that they don't have to care about this shit?
>>560533638How? I feel like that basically can't happen because of the way the respawn timer works.
>>560533532And by top 10% I mean the 0.001% of people on pro teams with artificial pick/bans.
>>560534035>How?Victor
>>560532880C&C!
>>560529626she could lose some weight
who is the best solo midboss taker? haze seems like it with ursa like mechanic on her 3
>>560534415command and conquer? Playing that rn as I wait for this dogshit patch to get rolled back
Am initiatefag, how do i start ranking up and playing better? Im getting kills now but still losing a lot of games
>>560534284No.Here's his performance in the bracket they actually balance for.Valve might actually consider him slightly weak, currently.
>>560534035If your team is ahead and they deathball push up mid and then don't retreat for no reason you can actually end a game now
>>560534658Sinners and bridge buffs
Crazy how you can just say nigger in game and valve doesn’t care.
>>560534898Depends more on the other 11 people in the lobby not caring, you can be banned for it if they report you but most people won't.
>>560534410Oh.
>>560534658Push lanesTakes sinners, buffs, and boxes when you're not fighting or killing troopers. Jump enemies doing their sinners.You will leave initiate doing this even if you can't aim and your team is made of scarecrows
I will piss int when I don't get my main I will ruin the game for everyone and I will somehow win and make everyone else either rage quit or piss int enough to where I win. I don't know why that works so well but it does and the comms are peak cinema. You should do it sometime /dlg/ funniest match I ever had.
>>560534781They are just bad and don't know how to play him
>>560534658Don't bother trying to join fights if they're across the map and not contesting anything, just keep pushing
>>560535276>eternus Okay.
>pocket is the son of an early 20th century industrialist/Rockefeller stand-in>hes asian for some reason?
>>560535982Dude had yellow fever and fucked an asian hottie? What's not to get
>>560535982>sonDID YOU JUST
>>560535982>HeUM IT'S THEYTHEM THABK YOU BIGGOT
>>560535982Sweet Baby Inc leftover but unironically.
>>560535053>Jump enemies doing their sinners.In their jungle?
Is Cultist's a bait item?I play Rem and it's in the build I use but idk what the point of it isEvery 5 minutes I get to eat a big neutral for 200 souls... so? It's an expensive ass tier 3 so it will literally never pay for itself even in a 60 minute game
>>560515059Shiv is the Joseph Joestar of DeadlockBadass musclehead with surprising wits that lets him go toe-to-toe with literal gods Vague supernatural powers Plot armor Connections to a society / foundation that hunts down monsters
I'M DOING IT
>Play viscous>Lure enemy into closet>Parry their inevitable heavy from outside>Goo ball>Infinite stun them to deathName a better ult
>>560536358shiv is so weird, you expect him to be some fast assasin type character but he actually just sits 100 miles away and hits you with one knife, has a slow weird dash, etc
>>560536332Read the passive retard. Gun buff is insane
>>560536680>8% weapon damage>on remSo the gun goes from 61 DPS to... like 66? Cool.
>>560536787>he doesn't know about gun remNever gonna make it out of arcanist.
>>560536441I don't even know how to goo ball correctly, I just launch myself into the enemy team with colossus active and hopefully cause them so much stress they can't kill my team
>>560533425>Can Volvo make this a real skinIf MJ was still alive>or will they get sued?Depends how subtle it is, could get added if we have skin workshop.
>>560537318It's a good panic escape. If the enemy can be lured into a tight space it'll really fuck them up. It's highly disruptive and chaos inducing in a fight. More so if everyone is clumped up.Never played him but that's how it feels to have it used against me.
>>560537494>>560537494>>560537494>>560537494
>>56053478149% wr is absolutely acceptable for Victor.
>>560536332it allows you to get tier 3 monsters as soon as they spawn at a time no one is doing them, it's more worth it if you hit your gun investment with it and if you obviously already bought monsters roundsthey probably buy it for the ability range and to quickly snatch a tier 3 before going back to doing whatever retarded thing rems dothat's the thing with guide they don't tell you what the guy is doing with those itemsit's also 450 souls at 8 minutes not 200, it's +150% so 250% total
>>560537318You want to use it indoors if you can. The stun and damage are reset when you hit a wall, so if you're in a closet you can reset the damage and stun constantly. If you use it in a lane or something it loses a lot of power
>>560519552Yeah the game can feel a bit swingy sometimes>have two rough matches against players with better communication>next match is against a retarded drifter who dies 17 times in as many minutes and fed my lane partner and I so hard the game ended in 20 minutes
