Cruel and Canon Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-220287>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>560489884
Deadlock should have some form of wards, or neutral watchtowers.Anyone that disagrees is a faggot btw.
>>560537494please don't use graphic pictures like that in the op
how do you know who is supposed to cover lanes and who is supposed to jungle?when is a good time to jungle?is pure melee a meme/trap against parry chads?
How do you actually impact the match?
Where are the Silver buffs?
#RAPEYOSHI
>this game fucking sucks>fuck yoshi>dogshit balance>BLYAT>this fucking hero is SOOOO OP>HOLY SHIT NICE BALANCE>this game is so fucking bad>THIS FUCKING DOGSHIT TEAM>*flames his team>THIS IS FUCKING NAZI GERMANY THEY'RE LITERALLY HITLER>I'm so bored>*skips track on playlist* nah I don't listen to Nicki Minaj any more, she's a chudwhy do streamers think this is a good personality?
>first instance of male hapa representation>slapped on "they/them" shitHapas bros, we really can't catch a break
>>560537649lane creeps give more souls than neutralsneutrals + boxes + urns are for when you're traveling between locations>is pure melee a meme/trap against parry chads?never dry heavy melee
shitters that think viscous ult is bad have never played against a good viscious and it shows
>>560537683take objectivesget picks
>>560537792It was genuinely bad until they recently buffed it. Now it's a real ult.
some anon asked for this in another thread but i only just got around to it, enjoy my scrunkly little krill helping mo mog calvicular
His name is REMMY REMMY REM REMThe tiniest amongst all menHis sleep-inducing numen is what earned him his cognomenHe always smiles, and when he does, the Apollos he rileshe ignores their wiles, as in their minds, he is at all whilesHis peers call him FRIENDHis lil helpers a hand they lendand amongst his minions, they always blend,bringing objectives to their endPeople wonder: why is he so SMALL???His abilities, overtuned they call!When they see him the Abrams bawland their Ivys to his feet they crawl!All the masses convert to be his fansas he stimulates their pineal glandshis playerbase as sleepy as when his 2 castshis ults tend to induce a tranceand Silvers fall for him with just a glanceHis enticing aesthetics is what rile up the Mina one tricksCompelling allure belies a sense of demure"SHITRem the NOWINRATE"Said Calico with her BAITBut his kit is ORNATE and his heals are so GREAT it causes Calico's teeth to GRATEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM AND SOMNAMBULATE!
>>560537649>when is a good time to jungle?When you have down time in the lane, if the wave is dead or too pushed up and it's not safe to go kill it you should clear camps. If you need to move somewhere throw abilities into camps to kill them as you flow past etc.>is pure melee a meme/trap against parry chads?You do it for the love of the game.
>>560537494Game has no content compared to dota and victor is an overpowered mess
>victor goes from free-kill lane creep at 29 minutes abruptly to raid bosses who solos your entire team at 30But why?Why is this allowed?I literally just had one type "Okay, funs over. I'll never die again." in all chat and then proceed to go from 0/7 to 20/7 and solo-carry his team...
>>560534781Games shouldn't be only balanced for high ELO.All ELO levels should have a consideration.Several heroes in Deadlock are dramatically easier to play than to counter making them super strong in low ELO games where it's nearly a free win unless you get a pocket going 0-20 or you're mentally handicapped.
>>560538015>tfw dota is dead in NA>Tfw would need to climb the ladder from rock bottom since I'm a new comerOnly thing stopping me from going back to Dota2 this patch.
>>560538083Valve has always only ever balanced for the top 10% in every game they've ever made, anon.This is nothing new.Why are you surprised?
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>>560538020a rich victor is one of the hardest heroes to beat in the entire game, the counter to this is don't let him get rich, this is common knowledge anon.
>get rusnig on team>lose
>>560538020I thought he was nerfed
>>560538520блять! *dies*
Sex with Venator
>>560538020>>560538295Curse fucks victor hard>t. victor enjoyer
>>560538083Scrub killers aren't really something you can balance though. At low ELO what kills you is knowledge checks, not skills. If you try to nerf something like that, it's still going to fuck up people that don't know, but it's going to make it more useless for people that do know.
>>560538209I'm not.I'm just saying how it should be.Victor is above 55% even in Ascendant tier. That's the top 10% and even there he overperforms.Only at like high Eternus is he not performing well.He's boring as fuck to play as and against.
>>560538626curse is a 6k item and by the time the supports can afford that you are already 7k ahead of everyone, its not viablesilence wave is better but the point i'm trying to make is you just can't defeat a wealthy victor like you can defeat other wealthy heroes
>>560537861>>560537892barachads...
is this the worst tier 5 upgrade in the game, literally does nothing for the character
>>560538658Even people that should know are getting stomped by Victor.Mirage is dramatically stronger if the opponent doesn't know how he works and he performs like shit at every ELO.You can design heroes so missing 1 knowledge check doesn't fuck your game. Victor is barely even a knowledge check.
>>560538626the biggest issue with victor is sort of the issue with healing in general, him and geist sometimes too just heal so much that 30% from toxic bullets or even 35% from healbane do absolutely nothing and that shouldn't be the case, what's the point of antihealing if it only cucks small healing you could probably outdamage anyway
>>560538020I think timebomb hyperscaling characters are cancer for MOBAs because realistically most non-pro games are not going to be ended before they can scalein deadlock especially, it is very difficult to actively deny someone farm after lane phase without sacrificing other things like objectives etc. The best you can do is take urn/prevent the enemy team from getting urn, but victor is an efficient farming character and splitpusher so he can kind of just mindlessly throw himself at lanes and still get farm and then eventually just become unkillableThe solution to this is hard, because if you nerf the items that make him unkillable, it hurts everyone else who uses those itemsIf you buff the antiheal items, it makes it even HARDER for all the other characters that get fucked by antiheal more than victor doesif you nerf victor, you risk him just becoming functionally useless at all stages of the gameHe should probably just be brought back to the drawing board. It's fairly easy to keep his core identity of "resurrection" in such a way that it's not absolutely awful to fight him.I think the counterplay to victor should be ignoring him. I think it would make much more sense if he was a very low damage but high survivability meat wall that just kind of exists to disrupt and drag attention to himself. Changing his aura to something like dealing damage to victor damages the attacker etc. The counterplay then goes"Oh, victor is in the team fight, we need to try to ignore him and kill him last"which is kinda how it is now, but it's much harder to ignore him because he pumps out a fairly disgusting amount of damage just by existing in your general location.
>>560539062>the biggest issue with victor is sort of the issue with healing in general, him and geist sometimes too just heal so much that 30% from toxic bullets or even 35% from healbane do absolutely nothing and that shouldn't be the case, what's the point of antihealing if it only cucks small healing you could probably outdamage anywayAntihealing stacks btw
>>560538658it is honestly okay for not everything to be competitively viable at the highest levelthe game should be balanced with the average player in mind. Or else you get shit like league where they make sure the flashy characters are always the strongest because they're the most interesting to watch during esports tourneys
>Enemy has Ivy, Dynamo and CelesteWell thanks I guess we never wanted to contest midboss anyways
>>560538881what is this even for?
>>560538731true but if I see a victor as a utility/supp player im gunning straight for curse after getting my necessary items. You can usually get it at the 15-20 minute mark which means Victor will be killed. This typically is enough to stop him but its not perfect. He needs nerfs but people also dont buy curse against him
>enemy team have a vindicta>she gets giga fed early on and you can't step foot out of cover without getting melted and sniped>we have a vindicta>she's so useless the enemy dont even bother getting knockdown to counter her
>non english name>0-10>sub 10k damage in a 30+ minute gamewhy is it always like this, motherfuckers are always on some bullshit like celeste too
>the only way to prevent M1 characters and Viktor from getting strong is to stop them farmingIs this even possible? You have to go into an enemies jungle, find them, then somehow manage to kill them without them just turning on you and killing you or their team collapsing. Haze, Wraith, Viktor, etc are strong in 1v1 and it's not like the camps do appreciable enough damage to them to make it a fair fight. What am I missing?
>>560539427honest to god questionwhat makes curse useful?Because it always seems like, when I buy it, I use it on someone, but it doesn't last long enough to make much of a difference.Like I've bought curse against victor a lot, and what usually happens iscurse victor > he dies > his ult revives him > he just rapes everyone anyway
>>560539626>What am I missing?You take too long to end the game
Silver feels insanely weak in the late game no matter what you buy. I tried literally everything.
>>560537494This is a blue board nigger don't make OPs if you're going to be a retarded edgy faggot.
>>560539687>but it doesn't last long enough to make much of a difference.Say you are going to use it on X and to focus them before popping it. Good players will just automatically focus the cursed person but they are a rarity.
>>560539257in your dreams
>>560539770Minafag spotted
>>560539721nta but this isn't an arguement when you have fiver other mouthbreathers.
>>560539687If he's fed enough that he can 1v6 after ult then getting him to ult is a victory since you now have a period of time to retreat and wait for your cooldowns while he blew a big one. Regroup in 40 seconds and kill him again.
>>560539737Best luck I've had so far is to just buy counter items and be the debuff nigger of the team. Soak up enemy aggro etcYou are not winning your 1 v 1s but maybe you can buy time for your team to win.
>>560539687when you have bonuses to duration, it works on items, which definitely helpsbut usually you want several players with these counter items on the team. I once had a team that actually all bought disarming hex and our haze literally never got to play the game again
>>560537584Absolutely agree. Staying on base without wards when enemy team have rejuv feels so shit.
>>560539414sticky bomb
>>560537584They'll just say>b-bu MUH AUDIONot realising how wards actually work and why they are so useful.
>>560539257and that's why you need to silence his healing instead of 3 healbanes for 105% healing reduction right, not to mention characters that build toxic bullets or crippling headshot anyway for the damage
>>560538881>>560540094Shouldn't it let you run them down as Gunbop?
>>560540094Oh right, the movespeed is to like encourage drive bys/hit and runs, I don't know why they added a firerate bonus at some point
>have a slightly good game>download the replay
>>560540094It was rational before they removed putting the bomb on yourself.His kit is completely thrown together at this point and needs a do over aside from the hook.
>>560540331I do this
>>560540331>watch it over and over from the perspective of the other players
>have to buy slowing hex, disarming hex/silence wave, curse, dispel magic, and counterspell to live every single game no matter what character I amWhen do I get to build damage
>>560540604when it's your turn to play victor
Is wraith supposed to have low player damage but high obj damage?
>>560540604greenbrams and become an unkillable monster
>>560540382Yeah I agree, no point keeping it if you can't be a jihadist anymore.
>>560540704Depends on the game for player damage. She should rape objectives pretty much every game though.
>>560540604Silence Wave and Counterspell are damage.All purple investment is damage.
>>560539737>Eido tier list>"Idk I feel like Silver is lowkey OP/busted but everyone just sucks at her."
>>560540331genuine enjoyment and peak gaming
>>560539687Curse removes buffs including Aura of Suffering and Infuser. This cucks his main lategame lifesteal cooldown and forces him to rebuild Aura up to max DPS for another 6 seconds once Curse ends.
Any item that can free you from Mo Combo?
>>560541102not once it's startedtechnically you could knockdown before he starts it and stun him out of ityou're better off counterspelling it
>>560537709These artpieces are what keep me going. Pocket deserves pain for no reason but that they fucking annoy me every game they're in.
>>560541102debuff reducers
>>560537606>>560539770
>>560541301*he's in
>>560541083okay I actually did not know this, I thought curse was just silence/slow/aidsthis does make a lot more sense, disabling infuser is huge
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How do you lane against Infernus as Mo and Krill
>>560541102teammate has to stun him out of it or kill himyou have a few optionsunstoppable, but a good mo will just wait it out and 90% of the time they can because they can survive long enoughcounterspell, which is tight timing but if mo is running up to you with ult up you know what he's probably gonna do. Good mo players will either bait it or only get fucked by it once and then bait itthe best answer is get your team to stun him/react to it
>>560541028>Can't even name a single OP thing about her besides feelsSilver bros...
>>560541578play safe by buying lane items to help you sustain and when you get ult you either try and pick him for your lane partner or just roam and get kills in other lanes
>>560539986I feel like I win 1v1s if they're stupid enough not to run away. It's teamfights where I get smoked. Even with unstoppable, I think the problem is that late game, you just don't have good lifesteal options unlike every other tank.
ermmm...your delegging hex sire?
Entire game is always defined by "which team has more absurd AoE teamfight winning ults".
>>560541662Silver upplayers are detached from reality, we knew this already.
>>560541742It just seems like you're completely fucked against Infernus or Mina
>>560540285>gunbopmight work in Initiate, thats about it
>>560541578extra regen
Guys... should I replace my mouse with an Elecom Huge Plus now that I'm over 40 and aiming with my arm is becoming fatiguing?Or should I up my DPI to 15k+ and learn to finger-aim with a mouse?
Finally in ascendant games, is it normal to get curb stomped? I just went 0/11, tried my best to do good and I still got fucked.
>>560542043Didn't work
>>560541981spirit shielding and playing safe
>>560541823What confuses me a lot is how a lot of her abiltiies scale with meleeThis will sound weird but that is fucking terrible since you never want to build more than lifestrike.Why can't they just use gun instead?But being on-topic yeah her teamfighting sucks. A single ivy stone form or something similar reduces you to a non-hero.
>>560542130rusted barrel and win trades
>Be in Ritualist VI >Advance to Arcanist I after 5 wins in a row>instantly get absurd match where every lane is stomped and go back to Ritualist VIThe fuck is this matchmaking.
Mirage is just a shittier Mina, literally all her normal abilities are an exact copy of Mirage's but strictly better, while having a better ult on top of it
>>560542140Then he knows he can dive you
>>560542271Meant Ritualist and Arcanist swapped obviously.
>>560542392Same for me but I'm terrible at the game
>>560542335>can build up debuff for an unexpected huge damage burst>can teleport to anyone on the map>can disable/CC group of enemiesHis kit is comletely different than Mina.
Does anyone have the playing deadlock for the first time screencap? The one with "you're my employee of the month, Michael"
>>560541579luv this one. Have a soft spot for these only news paper comics
How to get good at the game? Any proper actual guides covering most important shit?I played League for years and there you could climb to best ranks by not even being good mechanically but following basic macros and learning awareness of what to do during match.
>>560542515>>can build up debuff for an unexpected huge damage burstIt's almost impossible for that damage to be unexpected, seeing as Mirage needs to be shooting you for at least 6 second and likely longer.Not to mention you can just dispel it. Mirage sucks, I wish he was good.
>>560542712>>560542515He was strong when people didn't learn him when he built up seemingly innocent debuff and then bursted you for 3k damage instantly from afar. Now people learned him and he needs a soft rework.
Silver needs some love and affection
I just don't think I can do it anymore
>>560542168If theyre going to fuck you over giving almost no way to keep the enemy in place then at least give wolf form huge resistance.
How to fix MirageTornado now applies djinns markTraveler tier upgrade that reduces Djinns Mark cooldown by 50% for x seconds when cast
Silver sub 50% WR everywhere nowgj yoshit!
>>560541028>>560539737>>560541662Ummm what's that? More nerfs for Silver? Say no more!
>>560543194Mark needs to be pure damage, or be a buildup so it cant be dispelled
>>560541662He did say "She's got great laning, good util out of bola for roaming, and good teamfight."
>>560543481fighting victor and knowing my existence is irrelevant is always annoying
>>560541028>Vibes based balancing
Silver is such an dumb ugly fucking mutt. Why the FUCK is dlg schizophrenic for this whore?
>>560543505>and good teamfightI'm never listening to these fags again they have zero clue what they're talking about.
>>560543608She's cute and lovable also she needs buffs.
>>560542856He was absolutely cancer when his delayed dot could knock you off rail
>>560542698>>560542889Silver is too likeable she needs nerfs
>>560541028Eido is an egotistic moron.
>>560540604Pick 1-2 based on the situation retardbro. You aren't supposed to be building all of them.
i doubt anyone here likes gore-ish fujoslop but since the other anons posted theirs i might as well post minei just love victor so much https://archiveofourown dot org/ works /81272511/
I'm bored to tears of being lane janny while playing cat and mouse with 2-3 hitlers that were giga fed in the other lanes, 90% of my games are like this since the 3/06 patch.
>>560541028https://youtu.be/Ix4KsV9pVCA?t=712
>>560544206Yeah that's what happens when boring characters like Wraith and Calico are meta, you can't punish their aggression at all unless you have Mo and Krill.
>post-patch doorman>a seemingly endless line of retards playing him, easy souls>relax>next doorman is a serial rapistmy stay was in fact unforgettable
>spent entire late game double door and cart victor away so team can actually win team fight
>>560544360Cucking Victor is like the number one reason to play/get good at Doorman. Barely anyone else can shut that faggot hero down as well as Doorman can.
>>560544302>victor bottom tierHuh?
>>560544457He's bad because... YOU CAN LE COUNTER HIMUnlike Silver that gets countered by literally anything she can't be countered so she's actually SSS tier
>>560544447Best part is sending that fuck ass through door to random nowhere
>>560544341>Doorman keeps ulting our Vindicta mid-air>She didnt buy extra stamina at any point in the match
>>560540094Right now the only use for the movespeed is throwing the bomb on the strongest enemy in a team fight and then getting either to high ground to ult or getting behind cover so you don't immediately get killed.
can someone tldr me on air strafingyou're supposed to use your mouse camera movement to move ur char while dashingbut also let go of W every time u dash to do it? seems too much of a hassle ngl
Hmmm, today I will queue deadlock.
>>560540604just grab what you can put slots for or affordslowing hex is cheap, pick it up if you want to fight and catch people out. if you're a cool guy and it would fuck their team, get silence.if they have multiple ults that need interrupting then one of your spirit dudes should really grab knockdown or think about Curse because the support can't afford both right nowunless it's Rem. he's got the money.I do think counter items suck for trying to shut people down, that's where the game feels badafter a point nothing is shutting down some lategame characters. people have unstop, you aren't killing someone in the 3 seconds curse/slow is active unless you have someone also crazy farmedso you do mid for insurance and the game becomes praying for a pickoff then doing mid and it's annoying and your team really should have ended the game 10 minutes ago but here you are
>enemy shiv is playing his heart out but the other 5 are actual bots>Starts pausing whenever rem dies>rem keeps flipping out thinking it’s us until we point it out
>>560545146>hold A or D and move mouse in that direction>don't press wThat's all anon
>>560545547you can only pause once though
i'm bored when are they adding surf to deadlock
how to mirage
>>560537494why is valve making a marvel rivals clone? this is so lame and gay. at least put gordon freeman in it so he can bash these cardboard tranime cutouts with his crowbar.
>>560542168posted the silver image award
>>560545820are they? what is it called?
>>560545550buidling the habit to not hold w literally every dash its too much worki'll pass i guessi assume air dashing is what people use to do the side dash where u hold a or d and then course-correct to have it propel u forward? to dodge betteri do that all the time now but it leads me left or right i assume to do it forward u need air strafe
>>560545647I didn’t register they were flaming him until like 3rd pause due to lane jannying guess his team was dog piling him
>>560545146If you move 80 to 90 degrees away from your current direction in the air, you build up speed. Whatever combination of keys and camera movement you need to do that makes you go faster.
>>560543881>why do they keep liking her? Why are they drawing fanart of her? Why do they still talk about her? I nerfed her all the way into C tier! Why do they keep picking her? We most nerf her further! Nerf her into the ground!
>>560545929https://youtu.be/KFyjh2DAg1YJust watch this guy anon, he explains it better
Mid boss should be way tankier or scale lategame more.It's absurd that fed teams can do it in 3-4 seconds.
>>560542168Her wolf mode m1 attacks should trigger crushing fist stacks
>>560546282SeekerGOD
>>560546268The game plateaus in complexity very quickly and is more and more incapable of engaging gameplay the longer it goes on. Lategame is nothing but stat bloat and waiting for the biggest retards to drag their teams to their deaths. Measures like yours, or stronger objectives, or more midgame objectives, are contrary to the fact that Deadlock games are designed to be 20-30 minutes. The pace of the game keeps increasing and games are over quicker to stop people from reaching that stage
>>560542168>Why can't they just use gun instead?correct me if i'm being triple grade a retarded but don't melee abilities scale with weapon damage as well
>>560546252This shit is so retarded.
>>560542060Would a trackball help me if I get anxiety in rough matches and my aim suffers?
>>560542060That's the best trackball on the market but I doubt you're gonna compete with mouse aiming unless you've had years of trackball use beforehand.
>>560547113>yearsI adapted to a tartarus keypad in 3 days, surely this wouldn't take much longer, right?
>>560546859Lategame urn and rejuv are just "win more" bonuses for the dominating team. Comeback practically doesn't exist.
Ever since Silver's introduction into the /dlg/ ecosystem Silverfags nearly drove Minafags into extinction
>>560546859I'd like to see hots style siege mercenaries you can capture to help push.
>>560547328so this is the fabled greena ha...
After work I wish to have fun with Deadlock and of course I get to see this, just because I didn't want to play that nigger Calico (low prio, picked just so I can main Graves). Why does Valve hate me? Not only I'll have to play 2 low prio matches with russians AND WIN, I cannot play at all today. Life is pain and nothing more.
>>560547328Doooode wolf mode is so overpowered. I cant just walk away from her to avoid 100% of the damage!
>>560547615Nigger what did you do? I literally called people faggots retards and niggers in the game and never got a low prio queue.
Need more fanart of wagie Mina
>>560546910>but don't melee abilities scale with weapon damage as wellThey technically do but its like half if I recall correctlySo your scaling on a lot her abilities is functionally a joke unless you go all in on melee items.
>>560547713This retard literally got a character he queued for and abandoned because he is spiritually what he hates
>>560544360>>560544447Taking refresher on doorman just so I can send some overly fed fuck on mandatory holiday to nowhere is hilarious to me.>Ult>door>cart stun through the door towards an empty part of the map>refresher>ult>door>cart stun through the door into a random closet in the middle of nowhere>Bonus points: wait outside the closet and hit them with a third ult once 13 seconds is up
why do I always get the fucking retarded russians on my side? Even when the other side bickers they at least have people able to rotate and use their ults
>>560547284The way you aim with a mouse vs a trackball is pretty different. I tried switching to a ball last year for a similar reason but fine movement tracking is really difficult from my experience.Doesn't hurt to try according to this guy he games on that ball just fine:https://youtu.be/TWxII5fjVkk
>>560547328>>560547673>in the game where everyone has a ranged weapon, you can just kite the only hero gets no gun in her ultAmazing design, really cool. And we'll give her no extra stamina in ult, and her default move speed is laughable so you HAVE to upgrade to tier 2. Incredible design decisions.
Stupid to get enduring speed on every hero?
>>560548216It would be stupid not to.
>>560547328this must be the 1v6 pubstomper /dlg/ told me about.
>>560548216Literally my favorite item in the game, I don't know how you play without it
>>560548216game is a ccslop
>>560548216You don't need on heroes that buy stamina mastery.
>>560538608Link full....
Rem should have 2 stamina, and shiv should have 3
>>560548539yeahif rem gets caught out its his own retarded fault and he should suffer the consequences
silver's insanely warm, wet, puffy cookie...........
>>560548216Heroes with 4 base stam are usually better off with stam mastery.Celest and Ivy for example. You can still get speed but its kinda overkill.
>>560548630Should it be on her human form or wolf form?>>560548630
>>560548706Ive been telling myself that stam mastery is overkill this whole time. Its over for me
>>560537584That won't change anything with the problems map design. Once you're in the lead you have free reign of the entire map.
is mo and krill still good?
>>560548872both, she doesn't have pubes she has a ton of fur down there surrounding a doggy cookie, it's like her wolf ears and wolf arm
>>560549220theyre broken
>>560537836They buffed it?
>>560548872She has some wolf features in human form, including her cookie
>>560549220>is the unkillable nigger that moves at 5000ms and farms easily and ganks easily and rapes you with one button good?
>8 game lose streak>pick someone other than mirage>easy winman...
>>560549447I die very easily as Mo and Krill
>>560547485Minafags have never been as large or as dedicated of a posting bloc.
>>560550342boobs actually too big
the fact that m1nkeys are even pretending that Wraith isn't 100000x the imbalanced nigger MnK and Kelvin are is proof enough that m1keys genuinely need to be fucking slaughtered in the streets like cattleonly Victor comes close
Eternus came full circle and is like the newbie ranks again where Seven dominates.
>>560550198Did you buy greens?
the streetbrawl matchmaking is incredibly shitfeels like im the one of MAYBE two guys on my team that can actually play vs meta-sweating stackseither results in super hard matches or stomps when that one paradox never uses her ult in 20 minutes
Do we have Sinclair redesign leak?
>>560550764m-muh knockdown...*sobs*
>>560550764Ivy runs this game from behind the scenes
>>560550764I'D HIDE IF I WERE YOU
>>560540604same people who write shit like this also complain about every ability/gun that gets buffed to do lots of damage and wants it nerfed until you have to buy a bunch of boring ass number go up items to make it do damage again
I really like it when paradox says "thanks holliday"
>>560548538https://files.catbox.moe/0w8hpb.webp
>>560547328what the fuck is this build
>>560551429THANK YOU FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES HOLIDAY PROVIDES
>>560547328>why can't I kill one of the most slippery characters with my ult I get for free every 50s because I'm too busy posting pictures of me in a dress to buy slowing hexsilver players are literally like a dog chasing a squirrel. they could do anything with the free heal/speed buff they get and push up a lane or do a camp in 2s and still have ult for the next teamfight but they hyper-fixate on chasing someone around the map solo for no reason instead
>>560551512shes just matching her items with her new dress
Haze is for SevenSeven is for HazeSeven + Haze OTP
>>560551676>This character uses their ultimate to farm troopers/camps a little bit quicker.lmao
>>560548216there are so many items/abilities that also give movespeed that are really good that after they added huge diminishing returns for having a bunch of +movespeed it's honestly kind of a bad item if you aren't either buying juggernaut or are stubborn and refuse to learn how to use stamina (literally just jump and dash into a slide sometimes)
>>560551789I looked it up, it's actually 40 fucking seconds. there are NORMAL ABILITIES with cooldowns longer then your ult and you still feel like you're gonna waste it if you don't clipfarm with it because you're retarded
So many billies have inted my games I’ve become a billy main simply to stop it
>>560551760basiert
>>560551959Silver cant use her ult unless she takes/deals damage to characters, no?How would she activate it against minions?
>>560552146she can't activate it against minions, but because it lasts for 15s before duration extender you have plenty of time to realize you're doing nothing chasing a mina bullfighting around you and just fuck off to do literally anything else with your +4speed and large heal you just got without feeling like you've "wasted ult" because it'll be back soon enough15s with her speed is enough time to go into another lane entirely if you actually know how to rotate but that would require silver mains to play the game more instead of posting pics of her sleeping on twitter
>>560552161i'd still fuck bald victor
>>560551495Thanks anon!
KILL THE ARCHMOTHER AND HER DISCIPLES
>>560552161drifter looks like a twink
>>560552509Paige...
>>560552350Why is every Haze using cheats?
What race is Haze? Need to know it before gooning to her?
>>560552647paige doesn't hold a candle next to me
>>560547485I don't feel like shitting up the thread with spam.
>>560552745smoke (maple)
Fellas, how do I record the puppet and make it play in training mode? I think I found a tech.
>>560552794Rem...
>>560552794Right, Rem does!
Can someone fucking explain to me, why I have 109 games won for 182 games played as one of the most noob unfriendly heroes and i'm arcanist 4, playing against people who baerly played 50 games 1-tricking the most broken heroes for those ranks such as viscious, apollo, silver? I got dropped to a fucking initiate 1 when I started and i'm climbing 1 fucking step at the time when clearly my rank doesn't reflect my skill level and those faggots get the same rank for 1/4th the effort?I know ranked is a fucking joke, for one it doesn't even resemble a bell curve one bit but still, ranking up in this game has been the most bullshit experiance in any competitive game i've played
>>560552161Alright Lash is fucking Italian, look at that ROMANVS phenotype.
>>560552161britlock
my damage at the end of the match is usually the lowest, is that normal as holliday or should I be shooting more
>>560553075shes more of a utility character than a raw dps dispenserI wouldn't worry about it
>>560544447>Get Victor to pop ult>The minute he rezzes send his ass to the Baroness>Me and three other people just crowd around to atomize him when he gets out
Mina bats having same hitbox as she does and getting suck on random clutter is retarded af
>>560553694it's ok, in echange you have rem's ult that goes through walls or doorman's bells that ignore walls!
>>560553407I like cucking Victor with a Venator trap after he dies. Just kick one (or two) onto his corpse and the moment he revives, he is stuck and has to use jump start.Really I just think Victor is a faggot hero and needs to be nerfed into being irrelevant, it'd be good for the health of the game.
>>560552853>>560552858this was really funny in my head
>>560553892i would much rather have victor be an unkillable nigger that runs me down than play against some faggot ass hero that stops me from playing the game with cheesy bullshit(holiday, doorman)
>>560537861Where's the original again?
I'm new and have a question, do abilities affect walkers/guardians? I don't think any other moba lets you use abilities on towers except for very specific circumstances but I see macginnis and bebops ulting lanes all the time?
>6 games on pocket>only 1 win
>>560554165they do
>>560554073baseddraw a seething Paige next to the Rem
>>560554165Yup they do.Follow-up question to this guy tho, when pocket afflicts a Walker does he have to stay in the circle for the affliction to do dmg or can he just fuck-off and it still will corrode it?
>>560540406>loses to Iceland>thrice
I suck at Mina so fucking much. I feel like i do nothing and just kill steal with 1 when i get lucky and die a lot.
>>560552161>>560553007
>>560552859Initiate is a twilight rank where smurfs, trolls and retards if you get stuck there the only realistic way to get out if D*scord 6 man stacking doubly so if you're EU
>>560554635just keep practicing, one cannot be a virtuoso in a manner of minutes without providence.
>>560552859>Mina>Not noob-friendlyShe teaches you bad habits due to having multiple get out of jail free cards.
I don't think I'll ever win again
>>560552859>noob unfriendly heroesnigga she is one of the easiest spirit heroes in the game
>>560555112Get a trackball! Zerggy says you'll instantly be Eternus!
>>560555201not sure if we've played the same mina but you need both very good tracking as well as game sense/knowing your limits to do well with her
So why does Valve allow mods again when some of them are just blatant cheats and make the game easier?
>>560552859Rank is just fucked bro, I have a newfriend that's in your rank that has a 30% winrate who almost exclusively plays Mina and doesn't know what a single item in the game is despite having 100 hours played
>>560555312such as?
>>560555093But enough about Holliday
>>560555363Louder melee sound cues, brighter hero models, more visible health bars etc.
>>560547615>17/3valve made 5 new months just to ban this guy for longer, brutal
Holliday hasn't experienced running water before arriving in new york
>>560555109There is nothing impressive about playing Wraith.
>>560555358your friend is probably trans
>>560555312sv_pure soon
>>560555312Valve Allows Cheaters bro, that's always been the case
That's it this dogshit game doesn't wanna derank me no matter what, even tho im struggling in this elo and constantly losing, gonna smurf, smd yoshi
>>560555489imagine the smell
Win lane throw game me? a Mina main
>>560555654explain to me how this shit doesn't land you a hardware ban
>>560555701I can defeat her arrogance with my weiner.
>>560555093Never played Mina award.
>>560555659Ever since the big update last month it's basically impossible to redank, they're so desperate to inflate the higher ranks instead of just getting rid of ranks altogether
How's my Rem Build? I'm pretty new so my plan is usually to just spam pillows into the enemy team with such a massive radius that even when I throw it behind them it'll still hit all of them and do a big chunk of damage.
https://files.catbox.moe/563qns.mkvdo you guys think this is too quiet? i dont want it to be too annoying to actually play with
>>560555109Needs smooth criminals "OW!" edited onto the parries.
delete gunshit from the game
>>560556476>They
>>560555109>ults an already dead opponentis this marvel rivals?
the actual diameters of rem pillow, warden flask, bell and geist bomb are way too generous, not even my pinky toe is in the indicator and I still get hit
>>560556476>TheyCan THEY fucking stop with this shit, at first reading it sounds like she's referring to his assassins.Fucking language butchers.
This is the worst state the game has ever been in since release
Post Roster
>>560556704The game isnt released yet
>>560556068>Zero active items on the character that gets free increases to all active itemsIt's a bad build. Building entirely around the pillow as Rem is always bad.
>>560556732
>>560556704I regret complaining so much about the new batch of characters, they're nothing now compared to the buffs legacy cast members got. I'll take a million matches against launch Silver over one more fucking Callico/Wraith/Ivy/Kelvin/Viscous on the enemy team.
>>560556704newkeks are so cute
>>560556732let me guess, you need more?
Ive played over 500 matches on calico. Never played anything else, its just most fun hero for me.I took a little break from the game and when i came back the absolute madlads at valve just made me my own personal fucking city to traverse the map with. Im just running boxes literally inside walls going to and fro to anywhere anyway i please.I cant even begin to describe how satisfied ive been feeling lately playing this goddamn game again.
They do lots of things!!
>>560556068Why do people insist on not using the rest of his kit to try and meme build pillows?
>>560557420Valve arrest this man
calico, ivy, viscous, celeste are all fine. it's wraith haze and infernus that are ruining the game
>>560557630The fuck did I do?
I cant wait to use the new DLSS 5.0 on Deadlock, it's gonna look fantastic
>>560555358That's the standard. Nobody fucking counter builds at these ranks. You can tell a support multiple times to buy a specific item that shuts down 2-3 of their annoying heroes and they still won't do it. I fucking hate it when i need to buy knockdown or slowing hex as mina, that's not my fucking roleI just won a game as wraith where both teams had team fight after team fight the seond mid game started and i just bleed enemy base destroying walkers, pushing lanes and all 6 base guardians. I had countless games where my role was degraded to pushing lanes as mina and when suddently I want to fucking farm the lane, 2 friendly faggots appear out of nowhere and fuck up our souls per min>>560555093>>560555201Never played a game as mina btw
"X hero gets fucked by Curse" is a complete non-point given that Curse is designed to fuck whoever the target is. It is not a valid point against a certain hero being overpowered if every hero gets equally fucked by it.
>>560556732I raise and lower priority depending on how my aim feels that day.
>>560558325No you see, my 60% winrate retard gorilla Victor is countered a lot harder by curse than YOUR main
how in the fuck does he not die there>>560555701mina is literally designed to get you to do that, you get fed as fuck think you're strong then you overextend one time and its over, my wr with her is 40% so far
I uninstalled.Around 500 hours Em6, but I've never won a game where the other team has a Calico and Victor on the team. I'll come back once they balance it.
>>560556732Yes, that's right. What about it?
>>560552859Same shit happened to me but my winrate isn't quite as good. Look at the bright side, it's a good learning opportunity having to carry a team full of retards and it's fun to farm MVPs as a new player.
Enemy Victors are always unkillable machines that can tank entire team.My Victors are always useless piece of shit that die over and over and do nothing entire game. Sometimes i even forget i have one in team.
>>560558892My victor wants to brool constantly and die 15 times in 10 minutes.Enemy Victor has 55k the first time I see him fight.
>>560558892the difference is your victor didn't farm efficiently midgame, either because he's bad or the enemy just kept ganking him and wouldn't let him get big
what is the paige mod saiah is using in the latest melee creeps vod? doesn't appear to be on fpsbanana.
>>560558217>slowing hex as mina,this is good though
Ivy's fat ass thwomping my face
>>560557714The only people that think Infernus is a problem in the current meta are people who have never bought Dispel Magic or Plated Armor in their life. Pick Infernus, give a bot Plated Armour and see how long it takes to even stack the burn, and then consider that they can instantly purge it (alongside your Toxic Bullets and Napalm) and you have to stack it again. Add to that the fact that people don't just stand still and that ranged drop-off exists and lategame you can mag dump a tank and never burn them.It's a meta where everyone is nuking everyone in a matter of seconds and one of your big issues is a guy who literally cannot nuke you?
>>560556732dmc, smt and hellsing exposure at a tender age forever altered my sense of taste I don't usually que with all of these at once though
>>560544592Carting one or two players through a portal across the map and ulting another player is so powerful in team fights
>>560559384>just buy 6 slots and over 25k worth of souls in counter items broEvery time with you m1 fucks.
>>560559384Not that guy but it does annoy me how much shit he just puts on the ground, his area denial is very strong
Me playing Victor:>enemy team 3-4 man rotates on me no matter where I go, instantly>0/10 at minute 20 on average >my seven/wraith/venator get to free-farm>2-3 of the enemy team buy curse and spam it on me in every fight>the farmed seven/wraith/venator gets to deal free damage I enjoy winning for free, but holy fuck people in Phantom have serious Victor Derangement Syndrome.
>>560558524he dies and you get out alive if you shoot his head instead of belly there
>>560539217>if you nerf victor, you risk him just becoming functionally useless at all stages of the gameGood, walking corpse deserves it. Fuck hyper carries in general to be honest
>>560558217roles are meaningless pre-ascendant, and i generally have one slot dedicated to pure flex if i absolutely need item cc to stop a chud that from styling on me.people will build what they want to build at the peak of the bell curve, and you need to have i personally also play mina and buy slowing hex into apollos as my second item and i never regret it. it eventually gets sold for curse which my build already accounts for anyway
>>560559569Deserved for playing victor, they wisely chose to ensure you didn't get to play the game since the alternative is still losing but victor got to have fun
>>560559569>lol you caught the ball after I hit it with the bat instead of letting me run all four bases, you must have serious batter derangement syndrome???
>>560559639i stopped aiming for heads w mina unless its super low range, otherwise its hard to proc passive
>>560559647victor needs to be up in your face to do shit. if you nerf him then m1 carries will just rape you from 50m away
>>560554294
>>560559313>make rock character>give her Thwomp abilityAnd here I thought Valve was a progressive company
I know why Victor has so many downplayers!There's a Victor onetrick streamer that hovers at around ~450 viewers, I think his name is Rusty.Guaranteed that he downplays his ape character and his viewers parrot it.
>>560559715and you need to have *flexibility
>>560559569If you want to rape a lobby because you memorized jungle spawns, consider smurfing. People at higher elos generally know the only counter to Victor is just not letting him get online.
i was gonna say how i wish i saw victors in my game then i remembered i added a victor main and he listens to my advice so i don't care anymorei won
when people say counter victor they mean counter him IF you are fighting on equal soul value. you ain't doing shit to a victor with a 15k lead lategame even if you have crippling headshot nigga
>>560556476Its really funny to me that artfags are willing to make her act like a total bitch but not enough to >misgender Pocket lmao
is metro a furrylots of germans are furries for some reason
>>560559728>your entire team left their positions to all catch the ball after I hit it with the bat and let my team get 3 chain home steals thus losing the gameFTFY
>>560559905he does actually, he thinks because victor has like a 30% pickrate his high winrate means nothing
>>560558524lol it does less damage teh second time
Here's your Viscous remodel bro
>>560560110unironically i win that fight as drifter all the time after this last patch. silence wave -> 1 silence with sup duration is like 8 whole seconds victor cant do shit as my toxic bullets/5% max hp mark bleed his ass out
>>560558446Victorbros... why is the game so unfair...
>>560560212viscous warden and sinclair models are SOVL only reddittrannies want it look like fortnite
>>560560154
>>560560301cant believe he gets to plap paige and mina
>>560560325people just don't want to get in their head that victor is easily countered by m1 players that aren't retardeddrifter and haze completely fuck me up
>>5605595612 items, one's 3200 and universally good and the other is a great 6400 into M1 heavy teams, but not necessary provided you have dispel. You don't need to be a mathematician to see that 6400+3200 != 25k, and 2 slots is not 6 slotsEven if the other points I made about Infernus didn't count, he's undeniably the easiest M1 carry to itemise against because he also gets cucked by generic spirit resistance given that his gun is one of the worst in terms of raw damage (because it exists to proc a burn that, once again, can be cleansed). He's an M1 carry that essentially only does deferred spirit damage. Even Seven can focus heavier on gun damage if his team is already spirit-heavy.
>>560560417>people just don't want to get in their head that victor is easily countered by m1 players that aren't retarded...if the vic is retarded maybe
>>560560414billy has only ever plapped vyper
>>560560417lmfao just buy metal skin and pop it when you're at 1/3rd hp (to bait the m1gger in) and then rape them
>>560559905REMINDER: TOXIC BULLETS PERCENT DAMAGE SCALES WITH SPIRITREMINDER: TOXIC BULLETS IS CONSIDERED SPIRIT DAMAGEREMINDER: HEALBANE APPLIES INDEFINITELY ON ANY BLEED EFFECT THAT DEALS SPIRIT DAMAGE UNTIL THE BLEED EXPIRESREMINDER: TOXIC BULLETS + HEALBANE IS -54% HEALING REDUCTIONREMINDER: JUMPSTART CLEANSE IS MEANINGLESS IF THE EFFECT CAN BE IMMEDIATELY APPLIED AGAIN WITH BULLET PROCSREMINDER: UNLIKE SILENCER, TOXIC BULLETS AND HEALBANE BOTH DO NOT HAVE AN IMMUNITY COOLDOWNhope all of this helps
>>560560414Imagine Billy builds a Harem and they're all mindbroken by his dick but they still think he's insufferable and tell him to shut up when he talks
>>560560790Victor downplayer meltie!
Why does literally every Rem take friendly Sinners?
>>560560790you forgot to mention that if you're shooting at the victor the victor will warp stone to you and kill you faster than you can kill him even if you have healing reduction
https://www.twitch.tv/mmm_minamithe japanese vtuber that streamed deadlock for 20+ hours yday does daily streams, based, gotta respect the grindlost 20 matches yesterday
Crying about victor is shitlow behavior
please stop dispelling and counterspelling my sticky bombs its the only damage i have
>>560548216Just put the stamina in the bag lil' gupta
>>560560974what about your 900 dps dragon ball beam?
Victorbros... when will they buff our underpowered champion? He's so weak, there's like four counter items, how can we play the game in these conditions...
>>560554659I know why you put victor in the native briton, the swarthy part, but Victor is anything but hobbit like.
>>560544447Fucking on faggots that play hyper late game carries is the best feeling in the world as Doorman
>>560559274Lovebitten Paige
>>560560956i wish there were cute english speaking streamers who played deadlock but we only have troons and lazy ethots who play for 2 hours because it's popular
>rem that only takes your team's sinners>your dynamo that never ults >your drifter that goes 0/15I honestly cant even remember the last time I had a dynamo ult midboss to steal rejuv while I have to mind his ult every other game for MB
okay i'm just learning the game now. i typically play low mechanics heroes (in any moba/hero shooter)... ANY SUGGESTIONS? any tips? im just going through each hero in the sandbox now
>>560561247they'll come when its popular enough I guess, as foids dothis vtuber has to be a NEET though to grind 2.5k already, i asked if its popular in japan cause its a PC game shes like ooo no very minor game very minor small streamers are sovl
>>560559308>>560559715I will buy it when there is somoene really annoying like snowballing apollo but usually i rather have sustain/other purple item in that slot. Most heroes can't run away from mina anyway and when i'm doing 1v1, i usually will have ult ready to finish them off after the burst damage.>>560558871i dont get as many MVPs. On screen I got 1 MVP and 3 key player. Maybe i'm doing something wrong but it doesn't look like her playstyle allows for farming up kills. Not at these ranks where people just want to fight on mid for the whole duration of a match, leaving me doing janitor workI push lanes, take sinners, look for lone picks on their side and get to team fights that are in progress to pick off low HP opponents. Usually this doesn't net the most kills but a lot of assistsBefore the patch i was getting MVPs quite a lot but now she snowballs so much slower. I feel like i need to farm way too much to hit my power spikes and if i don't do that, i can't do much late game. She got nerfed too much. That balance rework didn't just shift her power timings, it fucking butchered her playstyle and with current deathball meta where TTK is so fast, she lost quite a lot of her identity
What are the chances they rework Mirage? I like his gun but it takes too long to build up marks, his scarabs suck, and his ult is useless.
>>560561336venator, warden, abrams
>I thought I had this under contro->CHARGING IN>Heavy Melee + Echo shard charge +Heavy melee>Knockdown>MEET MY FRIENDS>WE'VE GOT EM MO
>>560553075As long as you hit ults and win you did your part. She's very much akin to Dynamo where you can randomly shit out 10000000000000 damage in certain fights but otherwise you're there for your pads and ult.
Pisslow minas are cute and should be protected.
>>560561336mo/dynamo/graves/victor(if you can farm)
>>560561445>cant carry pubs>cant carry nightshift>cant anticarry >cant tank>cant farm>cant get picksis there ANYTHING jobber woman can do?
>>560537494>maining Rem>constantly stealing sinners>breaking every box and statue>not dying often>clearing waves and making good macro plays>stealing both bridge buffs when I can>a good 10k ahead of everyone else>still lose game>still seeker 6/alchemist 1AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGET ME OUT OF THIS HELLHOLEI am OBJECTIVELY better than these clowns and yet I can't climb. How the FUCK do I leave elo hell?
Is this just what this game is always going to be? Like once in awhile would be okay but 90% of my games I just get 4-5 massive feeders, I don't even care about winning but you can barely play the game at this point since everyone on the enemy team is so far ahead.Team blamed me for the loss btw lol
>>560560939if you aren't carrying the antiheal or the cc, never engage because he will win the 1v1 every time. that's his literal kit designif you're carrying the antiheal but not the cc, apply the antiheal from high ground and use the high ground to bait out warpstone. have dispel/counterspell, pain battery slow is terrible BUT it's highly telegraphed just like geist bomb because there's ~0.3-0.4s windup where he very obviously raises his arm before it shoots out. not having that slow will allow you to outrun him, it's why you're getting caught most likely.if you have antiheal, the cc, and one of other person, you will EASILY kill him, and forcing him to turn off aura when he has is ult is the signal that he's trying to run away/back to his team, and that's when you can cc. they will never shut it off if they have ult, but until he has T2 ult, he's a sitting duck when he comes out of his ult because any antiheal on him with aura on will just drop him into "im going to die" territory
>>560561730Win our hearts
>>560561757>>maining RemYou deserve to lose. Rot in pisslow hell forever I don't want useless faggots like you on my team.
>>560561757do you buy counter items every game? or are you just building damage which is horrible on rem since he has bad nuke abilities?
>>560561829Stop being a gay little baby and lock inThe issue is always you and your weak mentalEvery game is winnable
>>560561829>Team blamed me for the loss btw lolI genuinely don't think a lot of people realize when they die the enemy team gets stronger
>>560561829Not enough AoE hard CC on your team
>>560560301>fur coloured hands and chestI wish these fucking secondaries stopped making art
>>560560417Your metal skin nigger
>>560550198Mo and Skill issue
>>560561829>"Enemy team is so far ahead">Only a 2k soul difference>Your team actually has more AP
>>560561946I feel like I'm literally the only one building counters. I usually go for something like curse, guardian and it's upgrade, silence wave, and heroic aura. Sometimes healing nova if needed. And these fucking tards STILL fuck it up. I'm actively bouncing between literally everyone and throwing chuds on them in the fight when I'm not split pushing. What more can I be doing?
>>560557001>>560557601Is the pillow that bad? It seems to keep working out for me, I just toss into a group fight and I either deal a big chunk of damage to everyone or kill someone trying to fall back. Also where does it say Rem gets free increases to all active items? I genuinely don't know.
>>560560417The same Victor downplayers who tell you to "just buy curse and have all 6 people focus me down through two health bars" will get killed by an M1 carry because they can't press Metal Skin/Disarming Hex or buy Plated Armor
I like using knockdown more than curse
>>560560414The only person who agreed to even go near him is a crackwhore hitwoman with a crusty cloaca and she still had to pretend he was someone else.This isn't even considering the fact that HE loathes Vyper and relentlessly hates on her in literally every other interaction and line so he was probably just desperate to get his dick wet by any means necessary.
ay yo paulie, these fuckin wise guys stole our sinners AND the gabagools
>>560561902I might deserve to lose, but THEY DO LOTS OF THINGS
>>560562187thats clearly early game anon, im sure all those people who are 0-4 will suddenly just lock in and get kills
>>560561408I think mvp highly values presence in team fights, so yeah in low ranks where they just run it down mid 24/7 you'll miss out on that award a lot by split pushing objectives and taking 1on1s.In any case, try to enjoy playing mina at elos where you aren't ganked while taking sinners or slowing hexed by four people the moment you walk into a big fight. It sucks having shit teammates but it's also oppressively unfun playing against good opponents. Point being that mobas are never fun.
>>560562369Read his 2.
>>560562187>People who died several times when even will suddenly start winning when behindretard alert retard alert
>keep your eyes on the ball poison girlswhat did she mean by this
>>560561757Support is really bad for climbing out of low elo so pick up a M1 carry. Also Rem like most supports is a free macro bot so don't sniff your farts too much. It's a lot easier to macro when your character can fly like Ivy, skate across the map like Kelvin, or auto-steal sinners/push lanes with your 3 like Rem.
>>560561829>Team blamed me for the lossi've been having games like too lately where people crash out over the dumbest shit.i had a game where i laned vs a vindicta and i would just go inside when she went in the air and my lane partner got pissed as fuck for me over it
>>560562595Guess I'll have to put down the pillow and take these fucktards to church.
>>560560646>>560560698>>560562170>>560562379the same can be said about victorjust buy witchmail since it will proc infinitely because of his aurametal skin is a good item but with the nerfs to aura and how reliant he is on items, sometimes it is rendered useless on a 1v1 situation mid-ish game because since his damage comes from pain battery and the enemy isn't damaging him, he can't build up charges fast enough and if the m1 has toxic bullets or any other counter items it's annoying to deal with
>>560562507OH, I guess I could swap swap the scroll for the AOE heal or stun anvil.
>>560562557Except the point is that they're not really behind by any metric. They died a lot and they're still basically even in souls, so they still have the capacity to play the game and contest objectives. They may be retarded, sure, but the post was complaining that the enemy was too far ahead, which was just factually untrue based on the screenshot.If I'm 0/10 and at 20k souls and the opponent is 10/0 and at 20k souls, we're on equal footing. Score is irrelevant.
>that's what you get for trying to get close to me what's with mina, did she get raped or something
>>560562557They literally do, I don't have a melty when someone on my team fucks up a bit and go on to close out perfectly winnable games from worse starting positions than what's shown there. You should probably learn meditation
>>560559569It's because you are playing the most overpowered character in the entire game, so everyone needs to focus on shutting you down. Congrats, you are bad and getting carried.
Sex with Silver
Is it impossible to play Kelvin without having one retard complain about your ult all game? Theres just no winning and it's starting to piss me off.
>the game is not decided by who can carry hardest but which feeder can feed the hardestthe first of its kind. bravo yoshi
>>560559569You can just tell this monkey nigger got raped and is coping by pretending his carries totally used the space he created to instantly win the game.You love to see it.
>>560562247>>560561757stop playing support and helping your ankleweightsGo pillownuke build
>>560562567>one hit deletes 1k hpYAY
I love this little nigga and his carts
>>560562557>Team is getting picked off by roving gank squads so death counts are high>We out farm and out macro so we really arent behind in a meaningful way.>Start grouping and winIs what happens sometimes. But NOT this case because they have Lash and Paige. Group up to lose harder. Fuck that.
>>560563183you could just stop making shitty calls with your ult, that'd probably do it
>>560562187>>560562557>>560563006I don't really get what the fuck you're arguing over but no my team did not just magically get its shit together. Somehow our Bebop did -zero- objective damage, which is not something I've ever see before lol
>>560563242I'll give you Paige being gay and lame as fuck but just buy some anti spirit shit for lash nigga
>>560563183>>560563246Don't care. You're going in the dome
>>560563246>We're behind and enemy has 5 people on walker>My haze who is below in farm wants me to dome the walker to stall it for 5 seconds just for me to die after>Use dome to capture enemy rem and his ally>This same haze gets trapped out after screaming at me to dome earlier>Dome to heal up from enemy seven ult>someone autism screeches at me to drop it earlyOk man I'll just never use it.
>>560560956also shes a kelvin mainbased
>>560563305Sorry you lost your match bro, I'll revise my opinion now on the game winnability of your original screenshot based on your n=1 sample size
>>560562383>our double sinners, whatever happened there
>>560562454Not a fan of this CC meta. It is way too easy to use and there should be dimishing returns for reapplying CC to the same person. In a game which focuses so much on movement and aim, losing control of your hero multiple times in one team fight is ridiculous. Heroes like krill and wraith who have instant CC in their kit are the worst offenders. Shit like this has no place in a shooter
>>560561237I really think that the game needs to do away with the idea of hyper-scaling characters in general, it isn't going to be fun to play against.
>>560563637Literally what is the purpose of infinitely scaling characters, does anyone like this shit in any game?
>>560563470>someone autism screeches at me to drop it earlyOnce had some Fortnite sperg having a meltdown because of a bad McGinnis wall on my end. Dude was literally crying in mic.
>>560563541>I wanted the solo wave, but I compromised. I took the tier 1 camp instead
this piece of shit is so infuriating to play against
>>560563637I honestly agree. It kind of sucks dick finding out the guy you're playing as just auto loses to some guys because their stats just full stop scale better than yours
Let's see what this dick can do
>>560562369The pillow is fine on it's own, but people who build Rem exclusively around the pillow are an active detriment to the team, and usually they also steal your team's sinners instead of the enemy ones. Building healing nova/beam, knockdown, decay, and other actives on Rem is way better than the meme pillow build, if you want to do spirit nuking play literally anyone else designed for it.
>>560563928The pain will be worth it!
>>560563928I want to have sex with Abrams so much like you wouldn't believe.
I want silver to wrap her entire werewolf maw around my face while she crushes my pelvis with her delicious cookie
>>560560212Not too bad desu, the arm things are stupid though
>>560563735>does anyone like this shit in any game?The faggots playing the carries i guess
>>560563928>>560564006RAAAAHHH!!*SPRAYS BLUE CUM IN YOUR ASS*DON'T BOTHER GETTING UP.
viggers be like>hey guys did you know you can counter a carry with [generic carry counter items]? haha
>>560563735It's fine on Bebop since he has to actually get in melee range to put bombs on you for stacks, and it slows down eventually. Characters like Victor are bad designs because they require disproportionate amounts of effort and time on your team's part to shut down. Characters like Drifter are also gay and lame because you are encouraged to play like a retarded ape, as long as you get a kill/assist you go positive even if you die for it every time.
>>560562557Considering that lane phase hardly matters yea
>>560564098Victor players are retarded, they wouldn't be playing Victor otherwise.
/dlg/ doesn't want you to know this but you actually totally can win games when you're at a kill/soul loss compared to the enemy team. here's me winning with a fucking 3/20/3 mothis is where you handwring about how erm I only won because character X was on my team as if the enemy team isn't equally bullshit instead of admitting it's a skill/mental issue and you start sadposting in all chat when you see someone go 0/5 in lane
>>560563868SOVL
Watching oracle lobbies on a twitch stream and they look exactly like my arcanist lobbies. Is everyone below eternus this fucking bad at macro? I know it's easier to criticize as a spectator than it is to make good decisions as a player but jesus.
>>560564281kda barely matters in this game, soul leads can swing widely, mid boss decides most gamesif 2 happen to die before mid boss and it gives em the buff = gg i hate the midgame, not only is it boring asf with nothing to do but yeah macro mistakes like that decide every game
>>560563625There already is a diminishing returns for cc chains. Subsequent ccs on someone cc'd within 7 seconds are reduced by 10%, stacking to a max of 30%
>>560564345>Is everyone below eternus this fucking bad at macro?It never gets better
>>560564281damn i'm retarded and the image didn't attach. but i'd rather be retarded then a quitter
>>560564345Yes. Sometimes people are also just on autopilot even if they normally have good macro.
>>560564345Because of the rank resets, yesterday's arcanists are today's oracles
>>560564281I mean you can but 98% of the time you won't, yeah outliers exist but they aren't the rule. Also if you're playing with competent people who just made mistakes earlier that's one thing but most of the time if you're with randoms they're not going to learn from their mistakes, the same shit that caused them to go 0-5 in lane will cause them to lose the mid and late game too
>>560564394Yeah, that is why Mo's combo and Dynamo's black hole are so good, they are channels so they don't give a fuck about CC reduction.
>archon>enemy in lane in absolute shit and feeding us>geist ends up 0/12 at the end of the game>look at history>15 games played and less than 10 in 2026fix your dogshit matchmaking yoshit it's already a miracle these people don't uninstall forever
>>560539770>Not blood in the game about shooting people!
>>560564486Combo is actually affected by debuff resistance afaik
>>560564441I think you guys won because you had a non-retard on a broken character (Wraith) and the enemy team had a retard on a broken character (Victor)
>>560564345Every big patch has boosted a bunch of shitters up into Oracle so its not surprising
>>560564441>no unstoppable on victor>no greater expansion on victor>spirit resist on victoruhhhhhhhh
>>560564486>Mo ults my ally>I rescue beam him into my teamNyeh heh
>>560564538What a retarded, disingenuous and gross miss representation of my post. There's no gore in the game btw nigger so fuck off.
>>560564486>>560564573it is, I had a sinclair bunny me while I was being mo ulted and it broke me free because I had like 40% debuff resist on top of it
>have a great start>lose>have a shit start >win just not satisfying, its as if the matchmaker is designed to give you the most unfun games possible
>>560564486idk about black hole but combo definitely respects debuff reduction I know this because I am a blood tribute enjoyer that item is underbought especially now they removed the healing reduction
>Load into deadlock>Dash to get to Q faster>Character dashes backwards despite me holding WWeird bug
>>560564573>>560564716You sure? I could have sworn it said it was not. Might have been that way in an older version of the game, then.>>560564624>tfw got to Oracle before the rank ups happened so it just shoved me all the way to Oracle 3/4>>560564657I love rescue beam. It's one of the best items in the entire game. I've tried to justify myself getting it on Seven if I end up buying Healing Rite early game, since you are usually in the backline as him and can definitely use it.
is the 6v6 thing set in stone all until release? or is it possible they downsize it to a 5v5?
>enemy is ahead 1 denygg go afk and let them end they have a lead
>>560564616>>560564628>uhh buu duuh its because of x thing the enemy didn't do so you wonyes. people fuck up. it doesn't matter if rem was gigaricing the entire map or lash has 19 kills and 17 assists if enough small mistakes build up and your team can capitalize on them in some way.that's why you're a bitch for sadposting in my games and my /vg/ tread because bro look at these post lane stats the games over gg ff button when yoshi??
>>560564716blood tribute is really good on m1ggers and witchmail is really good on ability spammers but i almost never see anyone buy either of these
>>560564675>Phoneposting niggerNeck yourself you fucking crybaby
>>560564863there's "fuck up" like throw a teamfight by going in 1v6 and then "being a complete retard" like not buying eshift/unstop on victor late game. he 100% needs those or you might as well just afk in base
so why does kelvin have bebop's hyperbeam ult as a normal ability with like a 20 second cooldown
>>560564863Adding a surrender button is completely justifiable at this point with how bad the matchmaker is and how the game is basically decided from the outset if one team has more of the current broken characters.
>>560564819so what, one lane would be a 1v1? they used to have 4 lanes with two of those and they were such a clusterfuck that encouraged all kinds of extremely gay metas they removed the 4th lane entirely even though it kind of made the map worse
>>560563735>what is the purpose of infinitely scaling charactersIt promotes them playing a certain way.Drifter wants to greedily murder people, and bebop wants to fight as much and as long as possible.For all intentions it works pretty good at making players behave certain ways.
this build is fucking awful and ivy will look bad in pro level for as long as people keep thinking this is the way
>>560564968Bebop is a nigger with a 10sec hook I don't care if somebody else steals his shit
>>560565004i mean 1 could be a designed roamer/jungler after they rework the jg who knowsbut i guess it'll prob stay 6v6, the more players the less agency you have though
>>560564723I know what you mean.>Press W to Walk forward in hideout>Character walks backwards>Huh, must have rested my hand on the wrong part of my keyboard>look down, im holding W
>>560537704metro is a retard nothing much else to be said
>>560564885I don't take orders from edgy sharteen third worlders.
>>560564819>>560565004They should bring 4 lanes back and make the game 8v8
>>560565071its the exact opposite, with more people the cost of any individual fuck up is smaller and the chances I get someone compoetent on my team is higher
>>560565004They should make the map wider and do 8v8 with 4 lanes.
>>560537709The excuse that he was using "they/them" to obscure his identity was not bad. Then all the characters knew who he was anyway. Then they realized they cant revert the they/them. Dreadful.
>>560565186... nigga that's what I said? you have less agency the more teammatesyour impact matters less and less its more up to rng other players etcso you will always be able to solocarry more in a 5v5 moba than deadlock
>>560565071>jungler rotating from lane to jungle efficiently is literally a huge part of the game right now
>>560565258Sounds based
>>560537704Turn off the Vegas stream brother
>>560564657The weird jank this causes it an endless source of comedy. Its like the game freaks the FUCK out>>560564712Average moba experience>>560564624I am Oracle 6 on paper but haven't played a 6v6 since brawl dropped. I'm afraid to go back at this point. >AT&T mobile is rangebanned againSeriously, Janny? >>560564820Reasonable response in current patch.Also reasonable response to>Holliday/Vindicta/bebop on your team>Calico/Victor/wraith/Celeste on enemy teamJust give up.
>>560543608She's coolAnd hot
>>560537709Post on r/aznidentity about how Valve made the one Asian male in the game a tranny twink and those guys will burn down Valve HQ for you right after they stop seething about WMAF relationships
>>560543608She has a huge dog dick with a big fat knot
>>560537709aren't male hapas usually mentally ill like elliot rodger though? so its accurate
>>560564441>gun mo with lightning scroll solo pushingretardkino
>>560565268I can't wait for the Pocket visual novel/meet the mercs video where even the evil murder rape characters like Drifter and Seven have to either respect Pocket's pronouns or awkwardly refer to him as Pocket in a context where he/his/him would be more appropriate
>>560565478why are so many "people" on this site attracted to dogs?
>>560551593as a holliday none trick phony, it feels so odd to like, miss barrel, miss rope, shoot 3 shots while I run away and then hear the patron say this. they must be mocking me.
>>560565586i've noticed all the people pushing the homo ships + trans shit + beastiality shit in deadlock all belong to a specific group of people using my pattern recognition skills
>>560542168It's kinda fine, it makes melee items analogous to spirit items for her in a way, which is an interesting vector>But being on-topic yeah her teamfighting sucks.I think she should get her wolf form base resists back, and the resist point should be moved to t2 so she can't grab it so early
>>560565586They have a deep-seated hatred of themselves and so they dehumanize themselves with delusions of being trans and/or animals.
>getting 3v1'd in lane>ping for help>visc comes>he fucks off after we drive them off>getting 4v1'd>ping for help>visc comes and dies>rest of team doing fuck all, not pushing objectives, just wandering around map or in jungle, not even pushing creep waves>go afk and tell them to enjoy 5v6archon match btw
>>560543608because she was a fat, delicious, warm dog pussy (or this >>560565478)>>560565586because dogs are hot
>>560565601>showup to fight late>don't even damage anyone>*character specific feelgood voiceline*T-thanks ;-;
>>560565658Vindicta is not honorable she just hides behind bullshit platitudes to justify her bloodlust, she literally kills children
>>560565658elaborate on rem
>>560565848Rem = male loli
>>560565672The wolf was pretty balanced in her release state. She had 15 seconds of rape mode which was balanced by the fact you could simply walk away. The only thing they should have done was increase the cooldown so there was more downtime between her power spikes. They didnt need to make her ult useless.
THE BAXTUH SOCIETY HAS YOUR NUMBAH
>>560564094posted the abrams picture award
what is yoshi smoking
>>560565667>>560565713It's the grossest shit to me, but it seems like a common fetish. I use to knew a guy that openly told everyone in our teamspeak he fucked his dog. I think he got arrested but I don't remember anymore was more than a decade ago. Not to mention all the beastiality mods out there, better they like that than NTR I geuss?
>>560565667>lumping homos with trannies and beastiality fagskill yourself
>>560566010just don't get shot 16 times bro
>>560552493>we've reached the point where silver upplayers are saying her ult is good because you can use it to rotate to another lane when it pops
>>560566010Read the ability text. It scales exponentially per stack.Buy the Debuff Remover.
>>560564723>>560565136I think it's because the camera zoom panning back is actually making it so you're turned around in the game code?I'm not entirely sure but it's my only guess.
>>560566010https://files.catbox.moe/0vz8un.mp4
>Graves' ult no longer gives souls if the zombies kill minions while you're out of laneWhy were they so quick to smack Graves around but you got other drastically more broken shit running around fine for weeks/months
>>560566096>ult40s cooldown ability, not an ult
>>560565667>>560566025it's spelled best-iality bros, as in the word "bestial", you can remember it by memorizing the phrase "bestiality is the best", thank me later
>>560566096At that point you're better off playing literally any other hero kekSilver is the gift that keeps on giving.
>>560565778>she literally kills childrenis this confirmed? and actually confirmed she has already killed a child not just "she WILL kill chikdren with her wish if it gets granted"
>>560565019People are fucking mindbroken by the "permanently active" text on max tether. It is her worst ability and not worth being the focus of your build.
>>560566228Dude she was broken for like two days when nobody knew how to counter her she needed to be nerfed into the ground! Anyways more buffs to the magical negro characters coming up
>>560565658mcginnis is a serial murderer? what? she creates weps rightits not the same thing
>>560553075My highest Holliday stat during a win is usually assists and my highest stat during a loss is objective damage. Yoshi rewards my behavior with steady rankups in his silly circus matchmaking so I assume she isn't supposed to be the main damage dealer. Just a really mobile and possibly expendable diver if a stronger character is about to escape (like in your webm)
>>560566228her auto aim primary absolutely mindshatters shitters
>>560565537Or Drifter. Wanton murder and eating corpses is kind of my jam, but I draw the line at misgendering!
>>560565601>having an absolutely ass game >"IT'S A GOOD THING WE HAVE HECKING WHOLESOME CHUNGUS CHUDLING ON OUR SIDE!!!!"yeaa...
Is hitting gun spike ACTUALLY worth it on pocket be honestI feel like if I just ignore it and grab more spirit items I end up doing better afflictions and just do more damage anyway
>>560566385it is when you create ixian baby killers.She could have just made civvie tech and lived a normal life. But her pride...
>>560565658Where did you get Haze being an asshole fromShe's possibly the most well adjusted person on the roster
>>560566252Doesn't start cooling down till duration is over so ACKSHULLY it's a 55 second cooldown.
>>560565351>Average moba experiencei would say league of legends (the other moba i most played) has 10x better matchmaking, usually the wins are satisfying and the losses i know exactly why i lost, but i guess its a very mature game, i just want em to tweak the mm, do anything, lazy fucks
>>560562953Yeah
>>560566518Yes.
>>560566252>Silver doesn't have an ult>And thats a good thingWhat the fuck are you talking about anon?
>>560566546by that logic you would put raytheon employees irl into the same category as el chapo but no one does that since its silly(+ ixians probably deserve everything they got) this is how i imagine their bluenigga realmhttps://youtu.be/e-W0UWttWEw
anyone got the Rem+Drifter parody of Saturn Devouring His Son?
>>560566228You act like this change makes her unplayable lmaoSettle down
I no longer care about winning games, I only care about supporting my team and getting some clutch saves. Landing a 'nade that just barely heals someone enough so they can secure a kill? I'm on cloud nine for the rest of the game.
>>560566228Maybe you should fight with your ult instead of larping as Abathur? Ever thought about that?
>>560566771>(+ ixians probably deserve everything they got)wow wow wow wow wow, is this allowed???
>>560566518>doing a trillion spirit nuke that almost kills someone and then tickle them as they get awayvs>doing a trillion spirit nuke that almost kills someone and then shoot them with a comically oversized acme handcannon I wonder which is better
>>560566550She glows
>>560566898
>The ritual brought heroes and villains>People who cleaned up the streets, and those that profited off of it being dirty.>I was no hero, but I wasn't a villain either. Just a broken man with a gun.
>hodling golden egg beyond 30 minutes Absolutely retarded behaviour
>>560567238we need a scorned vigilantee char >hollidayno.
>>560567238>Just a broken man with a gun and a wishgoes harder
>kills creeper>"MINA HA PLAYS HER ROLE TO PERFECTION"
>>560566295>Silver is the gift that keeps on giving.Queen of /dlg/Queen of the Night ShiftQueen of the game itself (briefly)So many titles with all the controversy it entailsShe really is the main character. One can only wonder where the next beat in the Silver saga goes at this point
>1/9 Shiv spends 29 minutes complaining in chat about getting stunned randomly during fights>it takes him 29 minutes to finally buy Reactive BarrierAlso, my winrate when playing with Shiv on my team stays at 0%. At this point, picking the cunt should be a bannable offense.
>>560567223sovl, thank you anon
>>560565658Haze is the most normal person here. She literally works a 9-5 and is nice to EVERYONE she's constantly offering them jobs, or warning them if they might be in trouble at her office. You niggers are just mentally degrading from losing to haze in pisslow. Also Ivy to Honorable Criminals. She's a fucking vigilante who wiped out a crime family.
>AIEEE I CAN'T KILL VICTORplease consult the hero tags
>>560566550Haze is an asshole by association because her playerbase is almost exclusively subhuman>Cheaters>ragers>Russian/Chinese>Jungle for 30 minutes without contributing to any fights
Deadlock, with DLSS5 soon !
>>560567535AI slop???is this real?
>>560567306DO NOT SELLthe logner you hodl the more it moonsIT ONLY GOES UPPdo NOT FUCKGIN SLEL
>ivy does nothing>game ends>30k obj damageremove this spic rat
>>560567306The first time I ever got the egg I forgot to fucking actually sell it
>>560567602Yes it is. DLSS5 is literally just an ai generated filter on everything it looks like complete garbage. Please don't make it a new ritual post.
>>560567238>Max Payne in deadlock>His lines are just autistic vigilante narration>"The gargoyle girl was like me, except she still had a heart. Unfortunately for her, a big heart makes for a bigger target." >"uhm... I'm standing right here."
>>560566228Unfortunately summoners + auto aim gun make the general populous think she's a noob character and despite her drawbacks anything winning she does is automatic and a given thus isn't deserved and should be nerfed. Perception really is everything to a characters balance. Just look at Silver's perception too. There's merit to some of this "vibes based balancing" because you can't just balance on pure stats either otherwise the game wouldn't be fun, but it sure does suck when the case is for one of your favorite characters.It's really irrational. People would whine about jar of the dead in lane even though it's lame meanwhile I can play Apollo and win lane with actually zero effort because of how strong t1 sigil + mystic burst is. I hope they eventually figure out a way that buffs her minions while flattening her low elo skew so she's not a drag to play in high tier lobbies.
>>560567602Its real (AI slop)
>>560567602It is both real and AI slop. Enjoy your 5k€ GPUs and 2k€ 16GB RAM sirs!https://youtu.be/dJACkKbN-Eo
>hard fought game, we are losing>we came back partly thanks to the fact i tailor made my build to counter the specific lateniggers in the other team since i knew we'd get rolled early/mid game>almost lose twice but we bounce back and with rejuv we win>felt pretty accomplished afterwards>go check the replay>notice i lost a rank after that gamecan't have shit in this retarded faggot nigger game
>>560566550>Mossad assassin >well adjusted
>>560567696We need more ivy lines where she just completely shuts down autists with their prose. Her drifter lines are great.
>>560567695>>560567725The game industry is such a fucking joke lmao>>560567762NOOOOOOOOO MY RAM PRICES AIEEEEEEEI have 8 gigs of ram... its so fucking over... literally never going to be able to upgrade.
>>560567452nah, mina is the queen>asian>beautiful>bratty>fashion icon>clip farmer>your only limit is yourself, a hero forever in a meta thanks ot her kitSIlver can take 2nd place, i dont mind
>>560567762so what does it do for games that aren't trying to be photorealistic?
>>560567851>tfw 32gb of DDR5 before the sloppoclypse happened.
>>560566904he's obviously referring to the slew of nerfs she got a few days after release while apollo and celest were allowed to dominate the game, retard
>>560567535>makes them look generic slopa
>>560568045smug fucking cane toad looking motherfucker
>>560567851>>560568045>mfw i don't remember or care how much ram i havei just wanna play for god's sake
>>560567774Unironically who cares about rank
>>560568045I think I have that amount for ddr4? Could be ddr5 though not sure.
>queue street brawl for some quick dumb fun>hard countered by characters and people getting exodia items so bad its unplayablecool
>>560568032Nothing please redeem the AI slop sarrr we need the bubble to inflate more or we will see the greatest economic depression of the century.
>playing miku>on bridge as fight in mid breaks out>perfect opportunity to ult>bitch & prick sneaks up behind me and fucking ults me to interrupt it>didn't even deal 1/5th of my health>team loses without my ultyoshi kill yourself
>>560568232So go into your next quick dumb fun match, what's the problem
>>560567774>>560568174It's all going to be reset upon official release. Might not even be the same names at that point.
>>560568045>had 16gb>managed to buy another 16gb from a local shop for like $70 a couple of days after the prices started rising like crazy
>>560568117We need a toad hero sometime soon. Bonus points if he has funny toad eyes.
why the fuck did volvo remove party data from the api. how am i supposed to tell if i lost to a 5-stack of boyfriends or genuine team diff skill issue
>>560568429It should unironically be reset now, it's so poorly calibrated and it's affecting the quality of matches and therefore player feedback.
>>560568472Pocket's laning partner line is that he likes frogs as well and the frog hero says "yeah I know..."
how do i get out of arcanist
Is REM just supposed to be a dedicated farm stealing hero? Never see this fucker do anything when he's on either team.
>>560567535>ram prices are going up for thisgrim
>>560568572It'd be funnier if the frog guy said "yeah me too"
what in the seven hells is vindictalegitimately how do you release a character in this state??? all you fags who said some dumb shit like "uguh ughug guguhuguhgugu" and "omg just build shielding" die right the fuck now, thanks
>>560565778>>560565658I disagree that Vindicta is "honorable" but I doubt people who say they wouldn't be tempted to be at least a little vengeful when their one chance at regular life gets cut short by people who had no reason to kill you. If I get pelted by tomatoes and rocks while I burn on the stake because of a HUNCH that I am a witch, I am not going to let bygones be bygones. Also, since she knows for a fact souls can come back under some circumstances, she could be doing this in case the people who killed her come back to the mortal world to check on their descendants so it can still affect the main people I have an issue with.
>>560568843uguh ughug guguhuguhgugu
Whatever happen to people complaining about Apollo?
>>560567714I absolutely despise heroes with auto aim but since some can't aim to save their life, she is fine. It is not necessary for all heroes to be viable at the highest level only 1% will achieveIt's perfectly fine for her to stay as low elo hero. Making her much more powerful would derail these lobbies completely. I just can't think of much devs can do to make her better without feeling like complete cheese pickApollo needs to go, it is absolutely not fair how easy it is for him to win the lane with 0 effort, I don't give a fuck that he falls off later, That hero still mandates 6.4k investment into spellbreaker for simply existing, no skill involved whatsoever
>>560568750Well obviously Pocket is saying it awkwardly, looking for a point of conversation. But maybe the frog guy or girl doesnt even like being a frog, but they know about the frogs in his briefcase.
>>560568843shes the dedicated throw pick
>>560568892He got nerfed and now he's just annoying instead of braindead OP
>>560568610>phantom strike>charge>heavy melee>echo shard>charge>heavy melee>repeat until win
>>560568514Its doing its best. There's no separation between casual and competitive matchmaking. They could try restricting who you can queue with to reduce rank disparity in matches to make the sweats happy but that will upset people who just want to play with their friends. They could split the queues but this is a low population early alpha test but splitting the playerbase also makes matchmaking worse because its harder to find the right people queuing up at the same time.
>>560569007everyone parries my shit....
>>560569060only hm after you get t2 on your charge and get sup duration if they get debuff remover
i only now found out, after 300 hours, that spirit snatch is 70% effective when light meleeing or using melee abilities, why the fuck is that
>>560568675farm stealing, ratting, cc'ing, and emergency healing, yes
Who would I want to put this on? Victor/Shiv/Mo seem obvious, is there anybody else? Is it good on Abrams/Billy?
>6400 souls>125 bonus health>Enhances one other item in your inventory. This item's category changes to match that item.Would people buy it, and if so, what would they put it on?
I'm so tired of people following "pro" builds without realizing they have those builds because they play with a coordinated team or at E6 level where everyone is communicating. So not only are they not impactful in pisslow they're basically useless.
>>560569387if youre a spirit character who is close to them often
>>560569387I build it on Billy, you wanna be right up in everyone's business anyway, even more than Shiv honestly.
Any idea what leasuire activities can we expect in the future? maybe dota/lol has something deadlock can copy?something to chill out to
>>560569387Celeste likes it too if you're going light eater build
>>560568854yeah getting revenge on people who wronged you is fine, killing their family members who had nothing to do with it solely cause they share blood is not
>>560569387Rem
>>560569421divine barrier
>>560569504Surf maps
>>560569504>Any idea what leasuire activities can we expect in the future?Sex with Silver, I'd presume
>>560569435Piggy's doorman is top daily and it's 90% support items. I have no idea how the fuck one can use this build in solo q and not be pulling his hair out
>>560569387Calico. With high spirit it hurts a surprising bit and your 4 means you can just hover next to people while being invincible, and even outside of that your entire business is being up in people's faces.Can clear waves without exiting the Cat and not using items too.
>>560569521Yeah is she thinking that the guy keeps reincarnating into his own bloodline or something?
>>560568868:(
>>560569421Yes it would be meta. They would put it on Spirit burn, boundless spirit, weighted shots, Glass Cannon or Divine Barrier
Niggers here don't even post advice just complain and porn gay fic shit.
Why does Seven have a chinese monk aesthetic? Is he chinese? What's the word for "seven" in chinese?
>>560569387Apollo, Calico
>>560556602Every projectile in this game feels generous because client-side hit detection is favored HEAVILY, to the point you imagine they're going to tune it down soon. On release grey talon and vindicta seemed like their whole viability was predicated on them being able to shoot you around corners.
>see a game every now and then where one guy on the enemy team is popping off but the rest of their team may as well be lane creepsIs this a pisslow thing
Stuck forever in Arcanist
>>560569791neon prime design
>>560565778Vindicta is meant to be a vengeful spirit, notice how she is blue just like VS in Dota. Her revenge is just part of her natural instinct as a supernatural being.
>>560569772welcome to /vg/
>>560569387it's not bad on Shiv either.
>>560569020I'm not sure how much splitting the playerbase would affect queue times. If anything the poor rank distribution is fucking with queue times more than fixing the distribution and splitting casual+comp because there are certain ranks that are just randomly relatively low population like alchemist and phantom.Most games are happening in emissary thru oracle for some reason even though most people definitely shouldn't be that high. If you moved more of them back down then low ranks where people are more likely to queue casual would probably not see a significant increase in comp queue times. Meanwhile, the higher ranks will drop in population but people who are that high rank are sweaty and will queue more for comp anyway so it'd likely shake out.I'm just theorizing here but I'd prioritize the quality of matches over queue times. People can understand that it might take some time to find a match in a closed test, but it's harder to justify the majority of your matches being imbalanced steamrolls because your "competitive" matchmaking system allows for an E6 player to play with his friend who just installed the game.
>>560569791I thought he was supposed to be a reference to Raiden from mortal kombat.
>>560569809It's 2026 matchmaking thing.
>>560569772I do NOT post gay fic shit, I only post straight fic
>>560569421I can see it being balanced if it was limited to t3's because the enhanced t4's are fucking disgusting and some of them are even better than the legendaries.
>>560569809Its a party thing. The best players on each thing become server admins and the match is decided on who supports their server admin better.
>>560569934Abrams is blue too
>>560569791>>560569929Zenyatta if he was a crack addict
>>560569387I use it frequently on Kelvin if the enemy team is full of close-range characters.
tourist here. which is better, dota2 or deadlock?
>>560570274League of Legends
>>560569772I came here because the discord and reddit are full of fags and furries, there's no place to actually talk about the game is there?
>>560569387Silver if you've got too shit aim to use Hunter's Aura.
Why do people cry about Graves' autoaim weapon when the damage itself is pretty low, takes an eternity to reload, can't headshot, loses targeting through veils, has dogshit range and the target has to be pretty much in the center of the reticle Also, in this game aiming isn't even an issue since hitboxes are gigantic and most characters have infinite bullets
>>560565848Because he steals all the farm on the map, literally hitler i put him there because it's funny >>560565778>>560568854She kills for a cause so she's beneath an asshole and above a mass murderer, the friends of humanity are also assholes apparently but the lore is not expanded there yet>>560566385>>560566771>creating weapons and selling them en mass knowing they'll be used to bomb children is moralWhatever you say netanyahu>>560566550>>560567496She's an fpi agent and some of her dialogue is asshole-ish, I'm fine with her being in normal it's not that far off desu, but i got the impression that she wasn't evil per say but an asshole, kinda like lash, guy is cool but sometimes he's a dick
>>560570274Paladins
>>560570274This is a Battleborn general
>>560570491M1ggers always hate autoaim characters, as if m1ggers don't use autoaim cheats anyway
>>560570274heroes of the storm
>>560570620a fellow paladins refugee...
>>560570274If you like shooters and stuff. DeadlockIf you like TPS games. Dota.
>>560570721Deadlock is: TPS; hobby-grade moba shooter; genre-blended, multi-mode competitive e-sports; meta-growth, choice + epic Deadlock Heroes!
>>560568895I just think there's a minimum point you should go in terms of low elo vs high elo skew before it's just bad design. Graves straight up has too much counterplay on her abilities for how bad her gun and base stats are, which is why she's so good in low because they don't play around the abilities or her squishy stats and short range gun properly. I think she needs the skew flattened because sometimes it feels like I'm breaking teeth trying to get the kit to work and sometimes I need to queue some actual strong shit to reset mental. I don't know an elegant way now to do it but I'm not paid like the devs are to figure it out.
>>560566228>>560567714Same shit happened to yummi except yummi was broken in pro play but normal in draft and low ranks where people played normally, the devs response to this was to nerf her so fucking hard that now she>can't heal>gives a pathetic shield>can't damage>can't slow>can't even hit minnons well or anything >can't even buff her entire team and is forced into playing with 1(uno) retard either losing or winning with themshit si absolutely fucked desu>>560568895>It is not necessary for all heroes to be viable at the highest level only 1% will achieveShe's not viable in any even match where no one goes 0/20
>>560567496>Also Ivy to Honorable Criminals. She's a fucking vigilante who wiped out a crime family.How is that bad in any way shape or form? Her crime is defending her community from criminals? What? Was she supposed to bend over when vyper came to double dick her down?
>>560570274HoN and you'll get free Portuguese lessons.
>>560567824>>560567696>>560567238I miss McCaffrey man. He'd fit so well in deadlock
>>560570801I would do very bad and definitely illegal things to the general concept of Hi-Rez just for what they did to Tribes Ascend.We were blind, we didn't listen to the people that said the same about Hi-Rez and their treatment of Global Agenda.
>>560566385mcginnis is kind of dead inside, just listen to her defend herself whenever it's brought up that she's the chief engineer for ghost raytheon. haze is a fed but she's clearly a true believer in doing what you gotta do. mcginnnis believes in getting paid to drop bombs on ixian orphans
>>560571241>Was she supposed to bend over when vyper came to double dick her down?giwtwm
>>560571241The state has a monopoly on violence. You are not supposed to defend yourself goy.
>Play Ult Haze>Pop unstoppable and win any fight>Despite the enemy having 4 metal skins>My ult lasts long enough to outlast it.Wow they turned this bitch into an ult bot.
>>560569791Wait till you find out that Seven's prisoner actually means something. It's a goroawase (Japanese wordplay), 4279 is Shi (4) Ni (2) Na (7) Ku (9) = shininaku, or "become unkillable". Seven survived being executed and his ambition is to become a God, and whoever designed him included this subtle detail
>>560569387Literally a core item of most close range spirit brawlers. It's basicly pointblank but for spirit users.
FINALLY AFTER 20 GAMES MY FIRST GOOD START GOOD END NO FUMBLE DESERVED MVP ON THIS CHAR
>>560571431yes and im glad more people havnt realized it yet and are trying to just M1 people
ivy spirit is fun desu
>>560570274League is more balanced then deadlock currently desu, it also has a better game loop where>there's no infinite farm so you HAVE to interact with the other team and your team instead of rem/victor going on their 20 minutes farming arc>You can't be everywhere at once so if someone is trying to get a tower or if a team has to get baron they need to commit, whereas in deadlock at tier 3 towers everyone plays super defensively and just farms their way to victory
>>560570757That's the point anon, they lose their advantage.
>>560571695yeah but its also not nearly as fun
>>560571548only one mistake i can't believe how safe u have to play in this game even when 17 kills, in any other moba if you're that ahead you're a raid bosswell at least on Mina
>>560570491Same reason people hate yummi, "hurr durr it doesn't take skill" as if doorman ult or combo need to be aimed>>560571359>he wants the double lizard dickgaaaayyyy>>560571371>t.haze
>>560571249Ah yes, I forgot how many BR monkeys were on there. Absolutely great moba though, wish it didn't die off. The abilities were all great satisfying and felt impactful.
Man didn't Apollo get nothing but nerfs last few patchers? How is he so strong still.
>>560569387Core on ult viscous
>>560571751mina just becomes an ult bot late game
>>560571746in the current patch? fuck no league is way more fun then this shit, they seriously need to decrease the minnon and jungle spawn timers, and they need to force the teams to interact more, im sick and tired of having teammates that go on 30 minute farming runs, in league there's a set amount of farm on the map and the map itself isn't that big, also mobility isn't such an issue, in deadlock even if, and that's a big IF you find and fight someone mid to late game they'll just fuck off, there's no penalty for playing super safe and split pushing all game
>>560572108the ult is kinda hard to pull offif you get an angle where all the bats hit it does insane dmgotherwise it does 0 dmg and just silences
>>560571984He got better spirit scaling lmao, what fucking nerfs? He's basically lane hitler with infinite mobility
>>560569504turbo
>>560570721>attention all units, feminism is awesome!
>>560571548Mina is an easy character that only takes like 20 games to get good atPlay a triple digit learning phase character like viscous or doorman
>>560572317maybe if you play in pisslow where people stand still as target dummies
>>560572153get higher mmr lol in this game if that happens it's a 15 minute loss
>>560572307To be fair that quote was in regards to feminism allowing him to kill women which is based
>>560572317ngl ive played all the chars at least to 5 matches or so and imo hardest are vindicta, mina, holliday, viscous yeah, sinclair and shivdoorman ain't that hard, the doors are insanely forgiving now
>>560572448Oscar-Mike is commonly misquoted because no one played his game. Sad!
is it even possible to get anywhere near most damage as mina? i carried this team so hard for 95% of the game but the victor does nearly double my damage even though he literally did not participate in any fights until like 35 mins into the game
doorman is really hard guys this is why we buffed his point and click ult to remove stamina and also now have 100% slow when exiting to guarantee his epic meme kidnap combo when you come out. Mashing all my buttons from safety with portals looking for a free gimmick pick is actually really hard I promise
>>560571751ranks?none of them really tried to counter youWhen i'm this much ahead i can pretty much do whatever I want, still having to watch over my hp but death from me comes in a second if you are caught off guard. I imagine it gets really scary when she can appear out of nowhere. My new favorite playstyle is hiding at interest points behind their lanes, poking their walkers/guardians, moving while crouching and just overall baiting them into false sense of security. They are dead second after they notice me
>>560572317doorman takes out half your health with one bell in laning phasedon't even get me started on how simple viscous is. retarded melee build that doesn't even need to put himself at risk to pump out that damage
>>560569791He's a Rice Farmer.
>>560572741archon prob, im archon 4 now i just tried uploading the html cache thing to statlocker and it didn't update the game right away so idk how that worksalso ye ur insanely strong but not as u would be on some broken shit like wraith where u just delete teams, or victor, you have to be mindful, run into 3 and they use a single cc its over for you, its similar when im ahead on the other "Secondary carries" like lash
>>560572317doorman is braindead outside of door shenanigans
>>560556732This basically all depends on if I'm playing with friends or not, except Seven and Bebop. I also used to play Geist and Mcginnis.
>>560572638>victor does nearly double my damage even though he literally did not participate in any fights until like 35 mins into the gameMedian emissary player not aware of victor's entire gameplan. He afk farms for 30 minutes then stands around big team fights and does a million damage.
>>560573149no one does that anymore, even eternus play broool victor, he can do that now, hes decent at all points of the game with the new 1 and gun
>>560573210This, if you're Victor you should be joining teamfights if your ult is up, if you don't have ult back off and farm
What are the canons Archmother and Hidden King teams
>>560573210He can do that if you're actually good but most people are just carried by him being unkillable when he's online so they're just gonna afk farm until they get there.
>>560573149>lobby admin for the entire game shitting on everyone>the victor who was drooling on himself for 35 minutes and even lost us a few objectives participates for the last 6 minutes and does double damagesoooo trve xister. deadlock says trans rights :3c
>>560559807Thank youLove drawfags
I'm never going to win again
>>560573346I'm not saying it's a good thing, victor is a retarded character. I'm just saying you're confused at the sky for being blue. 90% of victors are invisible until like 30-35k souls then they outdamage your team for the rest of the game.
Should I?
>>560573509it's more of an indicator that mina is a shit character than victor is op
>>560547328>laning against mina>doesnt buy slowing hex>has dogshit movement anywayWhat is that Silver doing?
>>560573556who the fuck is peercontent?
woah guys why is the timer there when i never died?
My first successful counter to victor this patch. Is healbane/inhibitor really enough to just drop him? i was man handling the guy solo at some point (silencer was next)
>>560572992Wraith is a bullshit hero and I have no idea how it passed internal playtesting. I bullied mina so hard last game as her.Point and click ability that removes her in 0.5s, unable to even use retreat. How the fuck do you even counter wraith at this point? - She is defiently getting nerfed soon, wouldnt be surprised if she got silver treatment>>560572638I rarely top in damage, very common for few people to be above me. She isn't really supposed to anyway. She finishes off and ganks people and doesn't actively participate in most team fights, it is victor's job to do the most damage so you can later pick them off 1 by 1 like scattering cockroaches
>>560549208It would increase how easy it is to defend and farm on your side of the map when the enemy has a slight lead.
>>560574310Silencer is probably the best one to counter, and then crippling headshot, and then Inhibitor. Simply because Silencer is one shot to apply effect, and CH is one headshot to apply effect. As opposed to Inhib which is a build up. But yes, it's that easy.
>>560573556nah this is better spent
>>560574310No because his 2 cleanses it at T3. One person buying healbane does nothing. He was just broke and also never bought infuser for some reason.
i only play mina, i'm not good at mina, i'm not good at aiming or moba mechanics either but i will still only play mina and nobody else whatsoever and i don't care if i win or lose i'm still only playing mina no matter how bad she is
>>560574310I don't think Graves can even buy crippling headshot but that's another good counter against him
>>560574310this is pisslow and victor is poor and builds incorrect order
>>560559384>bro its so easy to counter him just focus on his shooting ha ha>accidentally step on the 2% darker ground in a teamfight>take hundreds of damage a second while the stupid nigger runs offI've killed dynamos and mo's during their ults because they tried to grab me during the run and just went 100-0 from the shit on the ground.
>>560574310you're in pisslow anon
>>560566327yeah personally I T5 stoneform T5 air drop then T5 tether. I have improved duration up by stoneform, web up by air drop and healing tempo up by tether to synergise with it being up constantly.
i9m playing doorman for the first time and missing all the bells
>>560537861lol
>>560574486i'm trans btw forgot to mention it, mina makes me feel so euphoric :3
>>560574486this but Abramsi'm getting destroyed by bots but it's fun
>>560574698greater expansion?
>>560574612>>560574665yes, it is a ritualist game. guess this doesnt count for u big dik phantoms
golly gee maybe i'm going against pro gamer culture here but maybe it isn't a "gg" if an archon yamato goes 30/0 in an alchemist lobby and no one else in the game gets to even participate
>jump enemy knee deep in our jungle>3 other enemies arrive within 30 seconds to bail them out>teammates don't react I don't understand the severe allergy to teamfights some people have. I mean, what's the plan, just push lanes for the entire match? Farm jungle? Yeah, they will just jump and kill you while you're alone, congrats.
>>560568045>tfw 64gb DDR5
>>560574837Consider pressing the button to communicate with your team on microphone and say "I see someone in our jungle, can [person who is nearby] come help me beat their ass?"
>>560574718more like dismorphic
>>560574808you're the one asking "is this a good counter" and the objective answer is that it isn't and won't work 90% of the time unless you intend to stay in pisslow forever
>>560568045don't make such posts or your stick will die
>>560568843i know what you are. begone
>>560574974>pleeeeeeasee spoonfeed me please please please i'm so focused on my c(creep)s(score)(creep score[earning money{to carry}]) to look at my minimap for one single second
>>560574974Consider looking at your map faggot.That being said sure, but it tends to not work when half your team is Russian and convinced they can solo carry after 60 minutes of farming and the other two are barely alive and 0-20.
I'm gonna BROOOOOOL
>>560559384Not gonna lie. I never as mina 1 trick had a problem dealing with Niggernus. You fucks are just so annoying, thinking you are the main character trying fight me. Then time comes when I hit the shop and you cunts get a taste of a reality check when you lick it off the bottom of my boot as I curbstomp 80% of your hp in the time it takes to blink once. And then you fuck off like a rat you are, making me chase my dinner
>>560573556Spend it on a porn commission or something instead
>>560575291>commission>for $70drawfaggots charge $150 minimumcan't wait until AI completely kills these entitled fags off
>>560575412pajeet melty
>>560559384How the fuck do i get all those soulss in land when he fucks me over from the other side of the map with his passive?
>>560574486thank you for helping me accumulate stacks
>play The Lash>leap high into the sky>grapple onto the puny enemy who looks like an ant>air dash and double jump to gain distance and heightmog him even further>flog his ass with your trusty whip>plummet towards the ground at earth shattering speeds and power>do 70% of his health bar>oh wait now what>strafe around impotently as you shoot him with your limp dicked gun while he runs away because your cooldowns are 15 secondsplaying this character is super fun and at the same time extremely unsatisfying
>>560565658Graves is explicitly doing good despite her evil looking necromancer schtick.
>>560575653>>560575653>>560575653>>560575653
I wanted to play my Graves today but guess what? Valve banned me for a day over nothing. They just hate me, you all do. Life's miserable.
>>560554143
>>560576094granny got mogged fr
>>560575412>wow why is custom work tailored to my specifications expensivedo you have a meltdown when people charge you for fixing your car too
>>560575243>making me chase my dinnerEww, she drinks niggy blood.
>>560573556>get boxes instead of standing stillThere, saved you $70 bucks dollars USD
>>560574310>healbane/inhibitorThey stack?? Healing reduction fucking stacks???
>>560575598Mystic shot, headhunter, toxic bullets, silence wave and cold front. You have many options for extra flat damage to your combo, but of course Lashsissies need their retard proof hero to oneshot people with barely any items and zero effort.
>>560560212porco rosso ripoff
> I have never ever ever ever ever ever gotten MVP what does this say about me as a player
>>560566195404 bitch
>>560567851every time I see that hand I cry
>enemy team says 'report our doorman be is being racist'>the four slavic guys on my team starts spamming NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERhearty kek
>>560560876They do lots of things!
>>560575870Source for the image? fucking love lesbian agegaps
can we make late game something more interesting than whoever gets the first pick wins the game?
>>560586538>game is 35+ minutes>midboss spawns>both teams just lurk in jungle until someone gets caught out and the whole team dogpiles on them>immediately team fight breaks out, team with the missing player is at a disadvantage and 9/10 times will lose>other team gets midboss>then they get to win the gamethis is so fucking boring and tiring when its one of your own teammates who throws the game by playing like a retard
