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Alive 2

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Wiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Game
News: https://dota2.com/news
Patches: https://dota2.com/patches
Updates: https://dota2.com/news/updates
Lore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Lore
For League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lol
Bug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues
X: https://x.com/dota2

>STATISTICS
https://dota2protracker.com/
https://dotabuff.com
https://opendota.com
https://stratz.com
https://stats.spectral.gg
Personal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/

>ESPORTS
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esports
https://datdota.com
https://dota2.com/esports
https://gosugamers.net/dota2

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*bugs your safelane*

Thank you for the free win.
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why cant yuropoors carry the thread through their peak hours
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Buff Hoodwink
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>>560518887
europeans dont use 4chan
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>>560520223
tell that to /int/ and /sp/
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>>560518887
This isn't Euro peak hours.
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enemies have greaves drum pipe megazord at min 20 and we have philly sniper
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>>560520987
needed this energy 3 hours ago mate
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>>560522020
Three hours ago was even further from peak euro hours than now.
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>>560522184
you've established that you contest the word peak in my post
its ok bro, just dont let the thread fall off the catalog next time
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>wake up
>no patch
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You could start by ganking the offlane. Push in the right wave, and a rotation might lead you down through the jungle into a smoke gank. Here you must choose your next path. You could race up to the mid tower, secure the rune, and pass into the Roshan pit. Once there, pop your BKB to start the teamfight. That may take you safe lane or lead you into the enemy triangle. Assemble your team there, and you may be headed for high ground. If the buybacks are up, you could jump in the pit and descend into another fight. Find the correct target, and it may unlock the throne push, allowing you to enter the base. If you escape, you might still have a chance to sit upon the Ancient. The choices are yours and yours alone. Good luck.
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You ever have these shit games where the game just stop making sense? A teammate seems retarded but his play sort of work, the ennemy have a stupid build (pos3 autoattack ogre with basher & heart) but they wreck you, you try to find fights & brawl but they always happen on the opposite side of the map, and when you try to join, it's happening where you just left, you end up wasting your time and getting shit farm because nothing you expect materialize and you have to wonder, is everyone stupid or is it you who are tilted as fuck?
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Is QoP a crutch hero?
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I have to stop playing after 2 50min+ games in a row, it's too exhausting
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Anons, legit question
how do I check which guilds have different voicelines as rewards? I want two specific ones
also.. where did my current guild voicelines go?The rewards are there, but I can't use the voicelines for some reason. The administrators changed the voicelines - could that be why?
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>>560527319
someone posted about guild voicelines a few weeks ago & anon said they're bugged
iirc guilds all get the same rewards? i'm not 100% sure
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my guild currently has
>nothing can stop this man
>russian garbage
>yolo
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anybody has advice for chen, i didnt get any last thread but i try it again
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>>560527319
Guild voiceline rewards are the same globally, and they're rotated every few months. Guilds with plat tier have all voice lines of the current rotation available so just look for plat ones.
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>>560528423
>anybody has advice for chen
Play actual RTS, then play chen
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just played the game that finally made me uninstall this game
but if I wrote about it none of you would read the post because you're all a bunch of miserable faggots who can barely keep a general alive because all you want to talk about is how bored a 50 year old streamer looks
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>>560528423
Hellbear facet
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I'm so fucking tired of games where there's one guy on the enemy team ratting and my whole team TPs backwards at the mere glimpse of him on the minimap killing every tempo we had. these are the worst fucking losses because the solution is right there but these retards have the primordial impulse of chasing after the guy cutting a wave
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>>560528423
the ghost with the piercing slow is my nigga
usually rushing vlads, aiming to rush down t1s asap, keeping mek and going drum boots
always looking mag resist cents and alpha wolves
luv shard & big golems

I really really miss necrobook
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>>560530025
did you win your game?
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>>560527548
>>560528870
I see, thanks anons
I wish we could have clica clica clica on demand
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>>560528423
He's useless
You're not missing any kind of hidden strat, there's no secret sauce that unlocks the hidden potential of the creeps, he's a garbage hero made for cheese strats.
His abilities don't do anything, creep abilities are weak and niche. The most you're going to do is use a centaur to stun people.
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>>560528423
i got some advice as a long time chen veteran dont listen to the idiots calling him bad
1. save hand of god
always try to keep it back in hand and time it to the last second
2. jungle dont stay in the lane and sap xp
after you dominated the lane this is the single best advice also try to stack as many camps as possible
3.the bigger the better is a pretty good advice regarding creeps so always rush your W to skill it
4. If your creeps get low HP, use abilities like Holy Persuasion to send them fountain and heal them
5. Buy items that help your creeps fight. Items like Desolator will improve your effective damage massively.
6. Keep creeps alive forever so you dont feed xp and gold to the enemy cores
7. Never push early or you get destroyed as you are very squishy at the beginning
8. At the start I would suggest to only micro one creep so it’s easier and to take on more later on
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>>560532159
>Buy items that help your creeps fight.
makes me miss illusionist's cape
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https://voca.ro/1nMCGpQQXLhF This interesting because you can tell it smell bad from the sound. Onion beef smell like sour rubber burning.
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>>560528423
>get hellbear
>outrade enemy (no range 4 can trade with Chen, even if you gacha a bad creep you still outrade them with your autos+Q+free armor)
>jungle (once you get better at macroing creeps you can try ganking)
>send two creeps to splitpush lane if your team is bad at clearing waves
>stack aura creeps and keep them with you
>stack aura items, press your shit on focused allied hero
>win by simply existing nerbay your allies
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>queue up
>get 2 twats I previously muted
>completely stomp the enemy, because they're worse, somehow
Who the fuck goes mid with Void to build Shadow Blade?
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>Quelling Blade, branches, +3 attribute item
>Support still does double my right click damage from range so they can take every creep from me
Make it make sense
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new to the game, why does he feel so squishy?
he barely tanks anything and gets melted endgame. Any advice?
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>>560538465
He's a caster, not a tank. Casters are generally squishy.
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>>560538465
You're not actually kiting, despite the fact that you have a stun, which doubles as mobility, on a 4 second cooldown, a 50% slow, AND a silence.
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>heh, Earth Spirit is a magic damage/CC caster
>wouldn't it be funny if you got Aether Lens and Gleipnir on him?
>go to demo
>Aether Lens does not update values, just the cast range
>works... fine?
>except remnant-less rolling boulder doesn't add 225 to the distance, but half, meaning it doesn't double dip the range increase
Thanks for thinking of everything, IceFrog, but some documentation would be nice.
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>>560538465
Doesn't earth spirit have the highest stat gains per level out of any hero
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i dont understand how to wrangle my teammates towards objectives. Every loss I have lately it's because the other team played for tempo while mine didn't want to
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Meracle invented Naga Radiance. You might disagree. You might have evidence to the contrary. But ask yourself: is this really worth losing my reddit karma over? Meracle invented Naga Radiance.
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>>560540118
Did they fix lens increasing boulder smash hero grab range
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>>560542048
Grab range?

...

Nope. In fact, Gleipnir even increases it further.

This is amazing. Hero kick distance is also increased.
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how do I Visage? This hero is confounding. Is there some flowchart guide to playing him or to be a Visage appreciator would I need to have been born with double my IQ.
Like I kinda get the theory but in practice I'm just retarded. It's not the zoo shit either I play Lycan and sometimes fuck around with LD. He's just damn confusing for some reason.
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>teammate picks Magnus pos 1/2/3/4/5
>they are the biggest retard
>can't lane, can't last hit, can't aim any of his spells or Blink Dagger properly
>feeds off cooldown
>lose

>enemy picks Mag pos 1/2/3/4/5
>they are some ebin 12k MMR carry player who gets 100 last hits in the first 10 minutes regardless of lane
>finishes a 5 minute Blink Dagger
>fucks every body in the ass 1v5 with a 3,000 damage burst every time he initiates while his teammates just watch
>lose
It's just not fair...
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>>560543432
That's how I feel about Ember/void spirits and pudge.
EVERY void spirit I've had as a team mate has zero impact and damage, while the enemy void spirit solo carries the game.
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Any cute girls that stream dota recommendations?
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>>560543080
run people down with q
press w if big yellow
dont let minions die
youll figure it out from there
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Necro is like an even more retard proofed axe
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Dark Seer is such a cool hero I think I'm going to spam him now
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Dark Seer is such a cool hero I think I'm going to get skull shaping surgery now
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Dark seer was cool back when aghs would give him two walls so you could refresher for 4 walls, and get shard for 6 walls
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>Play 4.5k MMR in 2016
>Every earth spirit picker is shit, the hero is shit in pub, only works in pro teams(or higher mmr, idk)
>Plays 2.2k MMR in 2026
>ES is a murder machine in lane, ganks like a madman and turn teamfights effortlessly
Has the hero been buffed massively relative to the rest, or has player skill inflation hit especially hard on him?
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where is artour
how am I supposed to work without artour stream
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>>560549420
There's been massive skill deflation, 2k mmr today is better than 6k 10 years ago.
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>>560550329
>6k
>10 years ago
I doubt average 2k pub is better than Jerax Earth Spirit.
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privet pandejos xd
?is espanol still the official language of estados unidos EAST xd? xd
havent played for 3 years xd
xd
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>>560549420
Yeah, just checked. Earth Spirit was added in 2013, and this is basically historical revisionism. On release, he was a complete menace, because kicking the remnant was the stun, and rolling boulder was the slow. He could be a roamer, a jungler or any role that isn't Safe Lane carry.
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get matched dotaplus nigger declines get matched dotaplusnigger declines get matched dotaplus nigger declines get matched 10/10 pudge 4 zeus 5
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>>560551747
Shoulda gotten dotaplus and dodged
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bros, what's the strongest hero in the lore? The last time I looked it up, a long time ago, it was Weaver, but I just checked and the consensus now seems to be Arc Warden. Speaking of whom, Dota doesn't list him as a pusher even though his description states he is lol.
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>>560551747
The dotaplus guy was declining repeatedly for a reason. You should've listened the first 7 times.
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>>560553002
That's for innate abilities to creep clear, fucking with equilibrium, map presence and hitting buildings. Of which he has none. He needs items.
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>>560553002
enigma/ck/aa and the 4th fundamental i forgot about
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>>560553473
AA isn't a fundamental.

You're missing Io and KotL.
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>>560553789
he isn't? well shit point still stands seeing as he is the literal heat death of the universe
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>>560553986
Conceptually it's unstoppable but it's different from being a Fundamental force that composes all of existence at an atomic level. Heat death means that the atoms and particles will spread out as much as possible into space and/or decay/stop moving. But it's just an application of the rules and won't change them. That's why AA isn't a Fundamental.
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>I'm gonna build a casual drum
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>>560554753
i see!
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When asked for advice on how to quit DotA, Grubby responded with "therapy, drugs or Slay the Spire"
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>>560554753
would entropy even be a threat at all considering there's magic that can poof shit out of nothing in the dotaverse
you'd think that infinite mana could be converted into potentially infinite energy, thus avoiding entropy altogether
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>>560556017
what if entropy just goes "fuck you" and decides to flick the off switch
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>>560553002
Marci is the strongest!
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>>560556263
aa is trying and failing because he is weak and entropy is weak
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>>560556017
We don't actually know if the conservation of mass and energy does not apply to mana/magic. Magic is inherently bullshit but most series with magic treat it like there is some equivalent exchange happening with regards to mana quantity. And given that spells have shit like noises, light flashes, heat changes, etc. like a typical chemical reaction, that would imply that they have their own mana version of the 2nd law of thermodynamics so it's not a perfect 100% conversion either. That's also ignoring the energy the caster themselves puts into making a spell work, like waving their hand and shit.

If mana and magic can truly create more matter+energy than what is put in, and you are able to generate mana at a >100% rate too, you could theoretically cancel entropy, yeah. But nothing in Dota lore implies it's possible, or a thing. And it's likely nobody will go to the lengths to autistically design and explore such a magic system. Best you'll get is Nasu autism in Fate. Don't think I've seen anybody talk about entropy with regards to magic outside of PMMM and TTGL. Both PMMM and TTGL have humans create bullshit energy out of nothing, and thus, defeat entropy forever.

This is also ignoring the existence of gods who need worshippers and shit and apparently that generates free power or whatever. So maybe entropy is decreasing overall, who knows. But we don't know the conversion rate of energy spent in raising and keep a person/other creature alive vs energy gained via worship. So it could still be a downward trend.
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>>560556724
he's just biding his time, why hurry the inevitable?
he has time to spare since even time dies when he comes for real
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I could beat anyone here. 1v1 mid, any hero, any time. Any place.
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adding tipping was probably the beginning of the end
its when the white people left
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>>560558165
*tips*
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>>560557050
magic and mana seem infinite, even if they aren't I can't see how kotl couldn't just poof more into existence
similarly enigma won't ever stop sucking so you could hook some generators or something up to him with some effort and use him as an infinite source of kinetic energy
>>560557089
that's just what he wants you to think
he's slow because he's weak and can't move any faster
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>>560558165
xd
*tips*
xd
palabras jodidas al azar en español
cлyчaйныe eбaныe cлoвa нa pyccкoм
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>>560558165
I only tip unironically
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>>560558165
grow a thicker skin dude
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>>560558165
Allowing rusnigs to play on the EU servers is the reason.
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>>560546382
LMAO anon this is brilliant shitposting
I know calling it out ruins it or whatever, but it's legit funny, made me laugh
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Hi guys, my name is Richard and my favorite hero is Xin, The Ember Spirit.

I like that he is a teacher, and gives a lot of lessons about humility. I like this because in my life, I have learned a lot of lessons and have learned a lot of humility too.

What is your favorite hero?
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>>560562575
My favorite hero is Hoodwink because she makes my special place feel funny.
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>>560559130
>I can't see how kotl couldn't just poof more into existence
Two problems with that.
We don't know where the mana is coming from. There is a lot of mana spread out in the world, and a lot of spells effectively just take some of it out of the air. So KotL for all we know is taking the mana from somewhere. The Fundamentals in particular have access to the Fundamental Plane of existence (a sekrit club AA doesn't get to go to since he's not a Fundamental). He could be siphoning mana from there, or from his self in the Fundamental Plane, or any number of bullshit sources. No guarantee he's truly creating it out of thin air.

The other issue is that even if he is generating it out of thin air, it might not be enough to combat the increase in entropy on a universal scale. It's like trying to melt steel on your stove. Sure the fire is hot but there's a limit on how much heat it can put into the steel bar over time, and the steel bar is always going to lose some amount of heat to the air and whatnot. Eventually the bar hits a max temp where it can't go hotter because it's losing too much heat.
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Weaver still mogs
Elder Titan created the fundamentals
Weaver created the timeline that Elder Titan came to exist in and eventually created the universe in.
Weaver predates ET who predates the ancients, and canonically, should have stopped dota from ever existing, because his literal hum drum day job that he got bored of was repairing errors in time, as in the ancients resetting it when they lose. There is no conceivable reason for him to even be here fighting, because he lives outside of this reality like an omnipotent god.
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I think it's retarded that windrun isn't dispellable
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>>560562575
My favorite is Hoodwink because she's cute and hates (((keen)))
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>>560563542
consider that he gets raped by axe with a blink dagger
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>>560564330
But what if he likes it tho?
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>>560564679
it doesn't matter if he likes it, the important part is that he can't fight back
ergo, axe w/ blink dagger > weaver > elder titan > fundies > powergap > axe sans blink dagger > powergap > aa
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>>560564852
It's past your bedtime, Axe. Go back to sleep.
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>>560564042
but like it is?????
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i don't know if these are real pepole anymore i think they might be bots that why que times are so long and why majority have a low behavior score
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hahahahahahaha what if i stopped attacking so you don't get your duel damage hahaha it's not griefing because you have more deaths than me looooooollll
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>>560530572
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>>560574437
Great, unwanted faggot shit.
Thanks valve.
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i want free hats
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Are there any fine females who enjoy this game?
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>>560575518
Me :)
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tekken patch soon lads
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>>560575518
mason please turn your stream back on i had to go make dinner for my mom
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Mason here, ask me anything
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>>560578736
Why are you so fat and bald
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>>560579685
ur moms pussy couldnt satisfy me, thats why nerd
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>>560578736
How fat is saweetheart?
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perfect time for a drunk dota game
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my heart wants to ruin games as aa mid but i know that i should play pango mid to win
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>>560580867
Are a lot of people playing ranked drunk? In World of Warships, people were constantly announcing they are inebriated.
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What the fuck is wrong with the matchmaking in this game. Why is the game infested with fucking account buyers and smurfs. It's either you get stomped or you stomp, I haven't had a real game in months. All the tranny jannies went over to dead on arrival lock and left this stupid game to die. Valve are a fucking nigger company.
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>>560581464
Sounds like the usual Divine seething.
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>>560538465
Pick a better hero.
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>>560581356
not a lot but it happens from time to time
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>>560581723
Do they get drunk before queueing or during?
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>>560582052
dunno, i don't know russian
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Dota 2 PowerPoints here, thank you for your continued support!
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>>560582851
oh nice a castle crasher skeleton
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>>560581659
already done, thanks dota bros.
This hero is so much fun
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>enemy dark willow is 20 and 4

Wtf am I playing against bro??
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valve are some hoes where is the fucking update
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>>560584250
The fuck you mean? You want to play Doom and Terrorblade that bad?
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>>560582851
You're welcome
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the quarteros death prophet set is probably bis if the enemy team is retarded and thinks the misc that makes bugs fly around you looks like her ult
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>>560582851
that's just valora dressed as ostarion
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Cold comes for you!
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>>560589943
And plays with sound off?
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>>560592740
not him, but I play with potato graphics. sound is where most of my info comes from, not what I see.
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me spirit breaker
me get level 4
me leave lane and never hit a creep again so long as i live
me end the game 2-16
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>slark winning a level 1 3 vs 1.

I fucking love playing against dumbasses.
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>mm stopped putting me against heralds

Is this it, bajs? Am I finally out of the trench? Can I ranked queue now?
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i gotta go MID TIMBER

Why does noone want mid anymore!!?
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>>560595046
same except i win every game

desu I haven't really tried to win at dota since like early 2020 and the game feels incredibly easy to win. Maybe it's just NA but it feels like if you land 1-2 ganks before 10 minutes and don't feed pushing high ground you win almost every game.
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>>560597895
Also, my first time hitting 7k please gz.
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sex with hoodwink
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>>560598546
This
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can the masonhaterschizo ban compiler work on jubei next i need that nigger dead and gone forever
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Pugna won't stop sucking me off.
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WIN STREAK!

Bow, mortals
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>>560600334
What a faggot old man
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wish i could just play dota all day. but i always gotta be ready for "hey, can you go to the store for me?" or "hey, can you give me a ride?"

lame
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>>560607485
thats more dota than a full time job
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>>560607891
well, i currently don't have job, so makes sense.
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>tokens are back to 60
Time to play more support to make sure at least 1 isn't griefing and knows what they're doing.

I am dangerously running low on supports to max to 5 and get told to get Dota Plus, if I want 6. Might have to start playing Io.
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>my centaur maxed retaliate first against drow who just shits on him anyway with her high armor
>Then he proceeded to max stomp so he still did no damage
>entire team yelling at him for being a passive faggot
>centaur ends the 40 minute match having only done 10k damage
Cmon now
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Why is bloodstone dead on Lesh or dead in general?
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My Enigma late game sucks. Any tips on improving? I can't convince team to push when I pull the combo so I just sacrifice myself. By sheer luck team sometimes do that push.
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>>560618623
figure out how to split push without dying
take advantage of the fact eidelons dont have a specific mini map image
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https://voca.ro/17az9vpL0TEL Show me your moves
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>>560618623
Refresher+Aghs gives you a BKB piercing 2,000 + 32% max health as pure damage, 8 second AOE disable

Each pack of Bearing'd Eidolons does 750 raw single target DPS (before splitting), to boot. Walk a pre-duplicated pack out of the treeline with you (you can use Ctrl+RMB to issue unified commands without breaking channeling if you fiddle with the settings), blackhole at least 2 enemies (or hold it for BKB, I don't care) and use boots of bearing during that (also doesn't break channeling)

What's difficult about it?
If your team doesn't push just march your Eidolons into the highground and siege, late game they can't push back to your HG before Blackhole is up.
Throw Malefice on some asshole and put Pulse down HG.
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What heroes do you think are just genuinely strong- You have fun playing them and hate playing against them?

For me I think it's Necro and Mars.
When I go up against Necro I'm whining and cursing trying to out lasthit him and fuming over how irritating his death pulse range is and the ridiculous regen.

And against Mars?
More than any other blinkfiend gankers, when he leaps out of the woods, stroking his shit and then Eul's you into a spear into an arena into a guaranteed death. It's such a fucking "watch this cutscene" type combo
And it's so paint by the numbers, too.
Soul Ring Boots Blink Eul's Shard, free double kill whenever.
Still has a subpar winrate, I don't know how that happens desu.
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>>560621917
>Necro
Countered by BKB Nullifier. Always buy that Nullifier.

>Mars
Countered by BKB and good vision+positioning. That's why Mars has a shit winrate. He's a midgame snowballing hero. He gets his powerspike at lv 6 and has to keep oppressing the enemy team before they can bounce back. So once the game goes on too long, he drops off.
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why do other players get meme'd on for being pipe/crimson aura cucks or having small hero pools like ace but 33 never gets flak? he would never be a mars magnus viper type of player and only plays heroes that are zoo or buys auras
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>>560622416
wut, him and his team get brought up as frauds since they won at peak aurafag era
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>>560622416
33 has an aegis
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When are they nerfing LD?
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>>560623297
>nerfing a 50.00% wr hero
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>>560624190
He has 56% winrate
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>>560624297
>800 game sample size
i ignore it
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>>560622416
>>560622758
>wraith pact forgotten this easily
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>>560625823
>need to login to view
Fuck off
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2015 was 40 years ago....
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>>560627890
I'm still baffled that the game used to look so much better and clean.
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good morning dotards
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>>560627890
TI and esports was much more fun and community based you just don't have these types of antics now
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I haven't played this game in over a month but I still think about punching idiots to death as Marci every single day
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>>560628850
>clean
>useless graphic covers 1/6 of the screen
Im baffled how retarded you are
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>gorgc goes larbogo mid
>loses because he's never played it before and its shit
>picks carry kez
>loses because he's bad
>picks pos 4 pudg
>just completely ruins a game

Is he boosted or something
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>>560634007
>Graphics in my game that looks like it fits into the aesthetic and setting of the game?
>AIEEEE SAVE ME ANTI-SOUL UI
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>>560635746
>why look at the map in great detail when an overlay can mask it!!!
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>>560635841
>I save 1% of the screen by having the single most ugly and disgusting looking UI
>so it's good!
Why even have different models on the characters instead of just squares? Why have trees and models on the map and not just circles and squares?
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>>560635973
>not seeing the map is good
>please read my retardation to learn more
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>>560636065
>not seeing the map is good
Are you blind? With your logic just remove any kind of graphics and stuff that makes the game look appealing and replace it with black, grey and white boxes and squares because it makes the visually more "clear"
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>>560636214
not blind and not retarded enough to take your strawman bait
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>steam guard lifted
what hats should I buy
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I break even every single fucking day I'm never gonna climb
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So they really just trannyfied the split pusher GAWD arc warden into a pathetic rune whore cuck… because a bunch of heralds complained about Russian smurfs? Am I getting that correctly?
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This retard's profile just gave me the ick
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>>560637179
That about sums it up, yeah.
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>>560636862
Your favourite.
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>>560639063
but anon already put me onto shen arcana (unlocked)
god pless that nigga
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>>560636862
dc hook
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>>560637467
yes i play dota as a job no it hasnt paid me any money yet
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Think I'll queue up on US east for a few days for easy MMR then queue back up on EUW once I've climbed
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patch today?
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>load into match
>team intros
>it decides to showcase some guy's stats who played the same hero like 500 times and only has a 50.03% winrate
lol
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>wake up
>no patch
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and there wont be a patch.
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you just got quatero patch... what do you want? a patch every week?
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They should give us a patch that lets us shoot quartero in the face
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>>560649419
They should give us a patch that lets me shoot hot ropes on quintessa's face.
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>>560649419
if this was 2006 internet you would have a flash exactly about that.
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>>560649509
Right after she had to watch quartero get his head blown off
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>>560649741
hot
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>>560648587
having a wr thats above water as a hero that's ass is hard
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>>560649741
New business idea, get a bunch of Fiverr jeets together to replicate the old Internet on commission.
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getting like +300 every 15 games i think.

i still think the system is unfair. why should i be punished for stuff that happened 10 years ago. i played beta dude.
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>>560650301
I've been playing off and on since 2013 and I'm at 12k.
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>>560650241
>jeet seeded internet
yeah nah no way man
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Dota 2 is a strictly homosexual game. Straight people don't pick crystal maiden and supports on bottom lane. It's my favorite position as a gay man.
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>>560622386
My team DOES furiously spam ping me any time PA just BKBs and walks out
Like fuck you man, it's a 40 minute game, that's free. Skill yourself.

I'm never sure who should buy the nullifier and I always end up bringing it in as like a 4th item on a carry, but it does always feel good when I get it. Disperser could work too I guess, for a little more.
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>pudge was complaining about people KSing him

does that really matter in 2026? it can't be that big of a gold difference.
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>>560652720
>playing Axe
>teammates are OD and Lina
>anytime anyone gets remotely low I have to watch as my potential armor stacks get obliterated by someone else's ult
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>>560652720
Objectively, it matters. At like lv 1, a kill would be about 250 gold for the last hit, and assists only get +50 gold each. Might as well hit two creeps. But it's Pudge, the early game exp gain is enough for him to farm more heroes with lv 6 early if he gets a couple more.
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>>560652720
Just the other day I was furiously pinging that I was like 200 gold off of Scepter on Disruptor and a fucking Lion just runs up and nukes the wave- The enemy took our T3 and we lost off that push

It took me a while before I started to care or understand about item timings or why they're important. Maybe if you think about it it'll make more sense. Haven't you ever lost a fight you thought you'd win because the enemy finished an Orchid or BKB before you expected, and suddenly you're silenced or they ignored all your damage?
Or if you're playing mid and they get bottle before 2 minute when you can't, or finish treads and get a stat item first?
Surely you don't think "in 2026" there's no difference to getting a blink dagger before the enemy even has their ultimates and finishing it at 20 minutes?
Otherwise why do YOU want the gold?
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>>560652005
>I'm never sure who should buy the nullifier

I had a funny support game once where I pinged
>I think somebody should buy Nullifier
at the start because the enemy team was like CM Necro DP Jakiro Rubick QoP but my carry said "Anon, can you buy it?" then he pinged that he was going to buy boots BKB Daedalus and some other shit. I'm thinking wtf is this retard doing, not buying Nullifier but hey, free permission to buy Nullifier on pos 5.

Took me like 25 mins to get it because I had to get urn first but once the carry finished farming and I was Nullifying whoever he chased, it was a free kill. So I think the answer is "anyone can and should get Nullifier when necessary".

Also see pic related. Toooooooootally good on every hero except the 4 listed here.
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>>560654506
I want the enemy dead. I'm doing that as fast as possible. I'm not going to stop attacking someone in the hopes that my teammate finishes them off. What if they don't? Then I get blamed anyway.
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>>560617078
It doesn't give mana regen per kill anymore. It's a Satanic for magic casters which is... not a very popular strategy. Do you go Revenant's Brooch on someone? Do you go Revenant's Brooch on anyone? Muerta? Do you play right-clicker Zeus?
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>>560654825
>free permission to buy Nullifier on pos 5.
sick
>I was Nullifying whoever he chased, it was a free kill
love that kinda teamplay
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>it's a "core overextends really far and gets ganked then buys every single ward in stock in a fit of rage, only to get themselves killed a second time when they try to ward deep into the enemy jungle which makes them rage buyback" episode
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>Go 0/5 as WraithKing
>Spend the next 25 minutes farming the Jungle
>Become a problem
No better feeling
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>>560638445
What a bunch of niggers.
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>>560661272
dont forget to rush radiance so you will have boots, bracer and quelling blade when the enemy team pushes highground
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>pick alch support
>teammate gives me a chance, lane normally goes alright
>or teammate immediately rages extremely hard and the lane is a loss because they're mad and actively griefing from min 0
Hey, he's listed as a support, relax
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You used to not be able to buy blink dagger on pudge.
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>>560665003
really? why?
actually the real question is why aren't the blink daggers limited to 1 per team and dropped on death
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>younger brother always asks me to play black ops 7 with him
>makes fun of me when I bottom frag

little shit. i didn't play these fucking games growing up. why does he even like these shitty games? I fuckign failed him.
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>>560665545
lmao unc
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>>560665436
blinking & hooking people to spots they couldn't get out of
venge too
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I member when mom applied a self damage amp and guardian sprint did too so slardar would immediately explode
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>>560662996
They never got to high ground
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>>560665545
give it up, unc.
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>>560664041
Medallion of Courage is gone, lil bro. Nobody picks Naga as a support, either.
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>>560665436
Stop seething, LoLbaby.
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>>560668458
>Nobody picks Naga as a support, either.
wtf are you smoking? Pro teams pick Naga as a support exclusively, and they pick her semi-frequently. They go through periods where she's 100% pick/ban for a few weeks and then forget about her for a while, then repeat.
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>>560665436
When Pudge got to have Blink Dagger, Valve spent like a whole year or two just fixing Pudge-related map geometry glitches where people get perma-stuck in weird places or get stuck out of bounds and shit. Pudge wasn't the only one. There were 1-2 others who also caused a huge amount of similar issues.
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>>560669273
I meant in pubs.
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>>560669750
Ahh okay. That I don't disagree with.
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>>560669881
I haven't watched pro scene in years, but I'll hazard a guess they still don't pick Pudge, because he's unreliable and can't lane for shit. Meepo is probably rarely picked, too.

There is an obvious disconnect here. Pros can cover for each of their heroes shortcomings, but if you're not in the safe lane going Radiance on a Naga in a pub, you might as well be throwing.
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>>560670303
Your post contradicts itself with your reasoning as to why Pudge isn't picked
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>>560670869
There is no contradiction. Hook is a skillshot, and pros don't fuck with that.
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>>560671094
There is
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>right now there are dota players that don't know dendi

i'm in amazement. You don't get a (You).
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>>560621917
>What heroes do you think are just genuinely strong- You have fun playing them and hate playing against them?
For me it's Windranger. I love her skillset and I can play her in any role. Lets me get shit done the way I want it at the pace I want.
But I don't mind playing against enemy WRs. 99% of enemy WRs are bad and/or easily countered. Most times, they're playing as zero farm supports so they are useless.

I hate playing against heroes who I can't just right-click to death. So the short list is just Slark, Morphling, Muerta, Lifestealer. I don't know how to deal with Slark and Morphling solo in general. Feel like they're a team effort to kill every time and WR just doesn't have enough item slots for it. They would qualify as "genuinely strong" for me.
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*shakes my ass in a VERY seductive way*
where's mason
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I watched Dendi hook TongFu into the fountain live, moron.
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>>560672364
Eating burgers prob
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>>560672584
I got myself a big arch burger earlier today. Not worth, the crispy onions add a very nice texture but neither they nor the sauce had much taste
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boys, the dream is over. I was demoted from crusader to guardian again. It's done, I can't win games anymore.
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>>560673030
Post dotabuff.
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>>560673030
no now that youre demoted you can win games again
i double down in games i think im going to lose on purpose to keep my mmr at a nice medium rare low legend so that my ancient apparation mid can go beyond godlike
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>>560673017
I couldn't bring myself to get one after the CEO video. Taking a reluctant bite and calling it a "product".
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>matchmaking jerks me around 1k-1.2k for 150 games
>loss streak puts me below 1k
>recalibrate
>go on a winstreak
>1.4k
>currently 1 game away from 2k (crusader 4)

>>560673030
I'm serious, post doterbuff.
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>>560671985
Not that Anon but you're being retarded and ESL right now. He mentioned valid reasons why Pudge is nowhere near a popular or meta pick, and said he hasn't watched pro games in years, which means he did before, and Dendi is one person, not the pro scene as a whole. TI3 was also like 15 years ago. Being picked 15 years ago is irrelevant to the meta NOW. Talk about being out of touch. How often has Pudge gotten picked in pro games in recent months/years? He went 1-2 in Wallachia so that's 3 games total. The Anon is wrong about Pudge never being picked, but it's a small difference between "never" and "almost never".

Stop being a poser faggot and lrn2read.

>>560670303
Yeah he's a rare pick but it's not zero. A few months ago, there was a surge in pos 1 Pudge memes, and every once in a while, a team still tries it out. There are also a couple pos 4 players like 9class who pick him on purpose, though his last Pudge tournament game was >3 months ago according to Dotabuff. 9class in particular was good enough to get his hero pool (Pudge, MK, Slark) banned in TI games, which was funny, but was sadly enough to get him eliminated.

You're wrong about skillshots though. Pros play skillshot heroes all the time.

>Meepo
Amusingly, Meepo is non-zero pick rate too, and even went 2-0 in the latest T1 tournament: https://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/19435-pgl-wallachia-2026-season-7/scores?date=all&hero=meepo
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>>560668610
i never even played lol..
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>>560677819
NTA but yes you did, I checked.
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>>560679750
SOVL
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patch status
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>>560680787
lol
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What if there was a gamemode in which you had to actually lose? Like you win when your ancient is destroyed.
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>>560680787
right here
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>>560672574
back when 770gpm was seen as a beast mode performance
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>>560681938
what did eg mean by this
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>>560681938
Do all white people have small penises?
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>>560694820
So you can suck more than one, you faggot.
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>>560655365
If you can't tell how many more hits it will take to kill an enemy, if they have any escape abilities up and what damage spells/how many attacks your carry has to use to get the kill then you might just be retarded.

There's a massive difference between "AM is getting unstunned in .48 seconds and then he's gonna mash BKB, Counterspell and Blink" and "This random level 3 Bengeful Bpirit is slowed to 200 movespeed at 150 health and zero mana, in the middle of the lane"

And you know it. Subhuman freak.
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>>560660250
>It's a "There are 4/7 wards in stock (Mid has one on them) and our 4 and 5 are steadily autoattacking a medium camp together at xx:50 and I died walking into lane for farm solo" episode
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i won a comeback game
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Bros I don't feel so good...I think my streak might be over...
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>>560701242
Gratz on the dopamine hit. In real life, you need to get married to the girl of your dreams for that, or land your dream job.
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stop spamming turbo
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https://voca.ro/1hqUXe5EcDGv
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do you need aghas or dom first on io core
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>>560707915
ring of repick
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>>560706963
name i faster way to raise comm and behavior scores? I went up 3k in like 2 months.
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how much dota would you have to play to get quatero to 100?
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>>560702013
Nevermind, we're so fucking back.
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I flew back and forth guardian/crusader for years until shit started clicking at around 3000 hours

Pay attention to efficiency, where the gold/xp comes from, advantages from winning trades (avoiding bad ones) and overall team strategy/map movement. How the game will play out depending on how each team performs or feeds. State of the game will determine when you can fight or not.

Climbed up to 4k mmr pretty steadily after this. Start enjoying the game and being “good” for your roles/heroes. The less you give about mmr and tilted over it, the more you can have fun and improve.
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the most correct time to go in is when the barracks have died and your teammates are about to respawn but havent yet and will be alive exactly when you are dead
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I haven't played in like 4 years but still post here. Did you guys know that?
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>lina wants mid even though i picked invoker
>give it to her and go offlane.
>she feeds sniper 10 kills and 10 levels

lmao
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>>560710705
Or just notice where your performance is the best by checking Dotabuff stats. After logging in, and staying logged in, so it scrubs more match data, like lanes.

59% winrate as Pos 4 in the last 93 matches.
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>>560714123
>60% winrate against Fat Chance Core-wannabe Ogres
>and most of the losses had nothing to do with the Ogre
>36% winrate WITH Fat Chance Core-wannabe Ogres
>victories had nothing to do with the Ogres
Pay attention to your fucking stats.
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LOL's show Arcane was fucking amazing. Why did our show suck so hard? it's not fair.
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>>560717845
s2 was so shit everybody forgot about it immediately after so we're even
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>>560516990
Anons - 29 denies on lane against a carry - did I do well? legit question, I'm kind of a newfag
that's A LOT of gold and XP denied too the fucker, right?
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>>560724804
Yeah 29 is high. Good job Anon.
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recently came back to the game and i'm so washed, last time i played was 2016, used to be like high 5k and now i'm struggling against 2k bracket after recalibrating, somehow still having a lot of fun, dota is amazing
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>>560708898
650 per win, 250 per loss.
~450 per game
A little over 200 games, faster or slower depending on the winrate inside of that.
2 games of Dota a day, more or less. Tough for the weekend gamer, not much for the average daily player.
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>pos4 NP
>Ineffective in lane
>Fuck off to tactically feed elsewhere
>Ends up jungling like a nigger
>Gives me the chance to lose an offlane that I could have won with litteraly any stunbot.
AAAAAAAAH
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New Morphling aghs scepter idea:
Grants the ability Recast:
Instantly casts the last ability you cast with no cast point. Mana Cost: 30 Cooldown: 30
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>>560733496
New Scepter idea: The game is paused for 30 seconds upon acquiring the scepter and the aghs is transmuted into the Ring of Repick (which is automatically activated during this time)(can't pick Morphling again, timing out autopicks their lowest WR hero)
Next patch: Morphling automatically starts with an Aghs Scepter in their inventory and 9x reports from the other players.
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>>560731762
It's been a year. It wasn't your fault. You have to let it go. Everybody else thought it was a really cool interaction too.
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>>560731762
>>560734625
We all know you're the autist samefagging by the way. it's embarassing to watch
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>>560731762
They fixed a bug.
Keep seething, bug abusers.
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>>560727496
5k from 10 years ago is 2k today. The playerbase got much better.
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>>560731762
>>560734625
>>560734925
>>560735479
Could you at least explain what it's supposed to show?
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>>560736509
That the avalanche toss bug was removed, avalanche used to deal increased damage to tossed enemies.
Bug abusers insisted that it was intentional and that Tiny would be unplayable without it.
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>>560736857
>bug
it was in the game for more than 15 years before whoever is in charge of the game realized that it was retarded
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So, how the fuck do you deal with pos4 morph? His attack gets to 80 so he denies you of all creeps, 2.4 sec stun+knockback at level 2 to furhter cuck you out of lasthits, has an escape and a fat hp pool to avoid kills.
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>>560727496
5k in 2016 is like 5k-6k today. If your skills were legit, they'll come back to you and you'll start stomping your way up. The game isn't that much different. Have fun, Anon.
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>guy invites me to party
>always positive, great comms
>unironically commends the enemy team
>turns my loss streak around
>boosts me out of crusader
There are still heroes in this world
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>>560736857
It's an ascended bug. Everyone decided they liked it and especial care was taken to port it over to first preserve it (in Dota) and then port it over into Dota 2 and make it easier to execute 'the combo'

One or more (of the same 10 fags in this thread desu) (dead thread dead game) are really weird about trying to pick out samefags and Australian autists and making the place toxic for just like... No reason.

I'm the anon that screengrabs Blackhole refresher demos and Tormentor solos and Ancient stack cheese. You can tell we're different because our UI is reversed and graphics are different. I'm also not the "Australian Weaver facet autist" (but I do think that the XP facet is cooler and that most people don't know how to play Weaver anyways)
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>>560743012
I'm one of the Weaver posters but only because the Immortal Weaver support poster and the 4k Weaver support poster convinced me it's fun and it works. Dude definitely underestimates how much people like Weaver, and how viable he is in most roles.
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why
does gorek
ALWAYS go under enemy tier 1 in lane
And then crash out when his pos 5 goes to pull?
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>>560731762
dota is not even recognizable anymore, they should just call it something else at this point
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4 months on 7.40
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>>560737234
how do you even lose against morph 4, that is pure griefing.
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>>560737234
if hes strength morphed he has no armor and no attack speed
adaptive strike damage is also agi based
the hero doesn't really do anything
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>playing support
>carry is a fucking retard, dies 5 times in lane, lane is lost
>offlaner is a fucking retard, dies 5 times in lane, lane is lost
>only like 1.5 competent teammates on team at best (mid and other support)
>feed every time I try to save them
>feed every time I try to help them in a 1v1 they somehow lose
>take turns with the other support getting 5-man ganked trying to ward/deward for the retarded cores
>enemy team blows ALL their shit every time so they can't push high ground so they retreat after 1 kill
>our mid kills them every time they try
>repeat for an hour of torture
>carry finally finishes his rapier-first meme build and kills everyone next time I get raped
>entire enemy team buys back and trickle in one by one to finish off carry
>they die one by one like retards
>team pushes down mid and we win
>carry ended 10-6 because of that one fight
That was one of the worst games of Dota I ever played. Normally with this kind of game, I say "I deserved this win but not my teammates" but fucking hell, I don't feel like my "tactical" feeding was productive. I don't think I deserved the win either. Bet my mid felt like I didn't deserve the win either.
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gorgc is literally boosted or something
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>>560756535
yes, he plays 8 hours a day ~5 days a week
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>>560754781
this is why you're all herald
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>>560750685
>December 15th 2025
>4 months ago
retard
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>>560751243
>>560750910
He didn't damage my Juggernaut at all, but he kept landing denies, using his adaptive strike stuns on top to abuse the 2.4 second stun to land them if he couldn't attack in time. I'd get like 3 lasthits per minute.
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Dota2 Devs make Isis look like an Ice Cream Stand.
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why the fuck are illusions even allowed to deal building damage in this game
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why does ephey's max level rogue and barb have 17 ac
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>>560760045
because it adds more gameplay depth
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>>560761367
i guess deadlock taking over this game's playerbase except for the most suicide prone ruskies is gameplay depth too
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>>560762337
quite the slippery slope
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I'm tired of Largo
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>>560762337
i m so sick of people saying this: deadlock is trash, and it barely has any players. the only reason ppl talk about is because it's fresh.

Also, it's fun to talk about and not play it. Dota is fun to play but not so fun to talk about.
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>>560762731
almost as slippery as your moms pussy last night LMAO GOTTEM
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>>560766363
>dota is fun to play
LMAO
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>>560766673
why are you here then
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>>560759141
I wish I could blame the bad game on everyone being Herald but sadly it's 99k MMR. There was no justification for anybody being as bad as they were.
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>>560767905
to lament a dead general
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>>560768126
thanks for the bump
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>>560767989
>99k mmr
Mmr inflation hitting hard
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>>560768126
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patch?
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https://voca.ro/16WN4jyK6oaI Co operative gameplay you fart also.
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https://voca.ro/1jqgxh3QgpzC New Crystal Maiden voice line leak. What this update about??
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can you stop, thanks
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im never going to click play on one of psg's fart sounds but im glad he posts them
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>arteezy and mason have both been mindbroken by dota
Guess I'll go back to reading in the evening instead of watching these guys then
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>>560526348
I play turbo
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>>560777471
It's clear they have no passion for it anymore and just do it for a paycheck. I don't think they even like playing it really
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>when mid asks if anyone wants to swap roles
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>>560778006
this but the opposite
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Chat, let's be real. Do you take responsibility when you lose the game as a mid? You're supposed to be the deciding factor. Can't blame anyone else.
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>>560782174
I don't play mid but if I did I would blame every loss on supports not ganking me enough.
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What happens at below 100mmr?
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>>560782174
mid is decided by random chance unless your supports influence the lane
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>>560787440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buKaMB4zwmM
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>>560540579
in str gain he is behind primal, ogre, cent, tusk and tiny
in total stat gain he is behind lesh, lina, od, invoker, puck, shadow demon, np, pango, hoodwink and sf
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Marci power
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>>560790280
what is the source of her power?
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>>560778374
holy shit i wasn't expecting to be thrown into mid when farming token roles, what the fuck happend
any ideas what i should play? i think im gonna pick DK, max passive and just farm, i feed hard on every other midlane hero
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game will die and people will still try not to buy bkb
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>>560790327
It's a mystery, there's no obvious foci
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>>560790327
no one knows
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marci draws her power from my massive boner
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what compels a nigga to last pick silencer mid
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>>560790327
u didnt watched the anime?
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just met a dotard in the wild
nice TI 2019 hat bro
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>>560797901
i wear my ti6 sports bag all the time and nobody has said anything about it in a decade :(
i just want to meet some frens
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I haven't played dota in weeks.
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>>560790327
it's literally the power of friendship
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>>560790327
Something something, Invoker's daughter.
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>>560744030
Pick CC, dumb asshole.
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>>560798097
No, because you will ask my rank



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