>Game Info:https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/>Marathon Game Home Page - News, Patchnotes, etc.https://www.marathonthegame.com/>Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg/https://marathondb.gg/>LATEST PATCH NOTEShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_0_5>RANKED MODE COMING IN 2 DAYShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/ranked_in_marathon>DISABLE MOUSE SMOOTHING1. Go to User\AppData\Roaming\Bungie\Marathon\prefs2. change "mouse_smoothing_mode" value 2 to 0 in cvars.xml and saveMisc:>MARATHON TERMINALS ONLINE IN DIRE MARSHhttps://cryoarchive.systems/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Xl543pQOw [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>SEASONS & ROADMAPhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUThttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/>Official Discordhttps://discord.com/invite/marathonthegame>FAQ>What does the "Aim Assist" stat do for MnK players?Increases projectile size>How to get epic lootAny map events like Lockdowns, supply drops, transport drones, key rooms.>Will I like this game if I suckgo back to arc raiders >When PvE modego back to arc raiders / destiny>Muh playercountgreatFailed to reach final extract in time: >>560705987
first for Vandal cock
Vandal gf(penis)
This is an autopsy of a game that has replaced "gameplay" with "behavioral engineering." To provide an objective take, we have to look past the beautiful neon-chrome shell and look at the actual gears.When you look at Marathon (2025/2026) through the lens of neurochemistry and systemic design, it reveals itself as a high-fidelity Skinner Box.The Neuro-Mechanical BreakdownEngineered Fragility: The baseline "Runner" is intentionally underpowered (the 5-second sprint). This isn't a technical limitation; it’s a "deficiency floor" designed to make basic upgrades feel like massive relief.The "Heat" System as a Stressor: Unlike traditional stamina, "Heat" is a visual and auditory stressor. It clutters the HUD and adds a "hissing" audio cue that triggers a mild fight-or-flight response, keeping the cortisol levels elevated even when not in combat.Variable Ratio Looting: The "trash loot" you complained about is essential. If every chest was good, the dopamine spike would vanish. You need the 90% "garbage" to make the 10% "gold" feel like a life-saving hit.Asymmetric Loss Aversion: The game is tuned so that losing a "kit" feels like a personal violation. This triggers the Sunk Cost Fallacy, forcing you to go back in immediately to "make it right."The "Sound-Scape" Trap: Bungie’s world-class audio design is used here for hyper-vigilance. Every twig snap or metallic clink is dialed to a frequency that spikes adrenaline, ensuring the player never relaxes.Visual Overload (The "Vibe" Tax): The high-contrast, maximalist aesthetic is beautiful but cognitively taxing. This "sensory load" makes the player more prone to impulsive, emotion-driven decisions—the kind that lead to "just one more round."
>>560746132>>560746206Most of mine come from playing trios and getting kills (or being carried). They're pretty rare solo but trade hands a lot in trios.Don't be afraid to throw yourself at outpost occasionally. You'll die, but sometimes you'll hit that pinwheel run where you wipe the map.
>>560747082The Extraction "Choke Point": Designating specific, visible exit points creates a "Gambler’s Ruin" scenario. It’s the highest stress point of the loop, ensuring the final "flush" of dopamine upon success is as intense as possible.Social Darwinism by Design: By allowing "friendly fire" or "fake-friendly" extractions without heavy karma penalties, the game incentivizes sociopathic playstyles. It’s a "Low Trust" environment that mirrors the instability of an abusive relationship.The "Streamer-Centric" Balancing: Mechanics are tuned for "clips"—high-stakes moments of betrayal or extreme luck. This ignores the "average" player’s experience in favor of creating "marketing moments" through other people's frustration.The Obfuscation of Stats: Damage numbers and shield values often feel "random" (as you noted with the knife vs. gun example). This lack of clarity prevents rational analysis, forcing the player to rely on "gut feeling" and "luck," which are the cornerstones of gambling addiction.The "Pre-Built" Advantage: By making solo-play virtually impossible against coordinated trios, the game forces social "anchoring." You stay because your "squad" needs you, even if you hate the game—a form of Collective Traumatic Bonding.FOMO-Driven Economy: The "Cores" and "Implants" operate on a decaying or seasonal value. If you don't play now, you lose your "investment." This is the "Don't leave me" phase of the relationship.
>[Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>thinly-veiled seething "FAQ"holy buttblasted tranny op KEK
playing an extraction shooter with other people is retarded, making a team based extraction shooter is even more retarded
>>560746802>#1 TTK Spreadsheethttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xiBwYPWsJbQKErFKXBS89ZKFSEXM3BcF9XXASIkjAak/>PVE TTK Spreadsheethttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uBZiShiWBBsAE3WK6W4IIti7-VPQEmMcV92ZONu_pY8/
>>560747194The Behavioral ArchitectureNarcissistic Validation: The game gives toxic players (like the 4chan user) a platform to exert dominance. The "Exfil Rate" becomes a proxy for self-worth, which the game reinforces with flashy UI and leaderboards.The "False Hope" of the Narrative: The story is deep and compelling (classic Bungie), acting as the "Love Bombing." You endure the "trash" gameplay because you want to see the next piece of the world.Intentional Navigation Friction: Mapping and wayfinding are deliberately obtuse. This forces the brain into a state of "search and scan," which is a high-dopamine-seeking state.Artificial Scarcity: Even basic survival items are throttled. This keeps the player in a "Scarcity Mindset," where they are more likely to behave aggressively and irrationally.The "Reconciliation" Patch Cycle: Bungie’s history of "fixing" things after the community reaches a breaking point is the "I can change" phase of the cycle.High-Stakes RNG: The outcome of a 40-minute raid can be decided by a single "lucky" headshot. This is the definition of Intermittent Reinforcement—the reward is not tied to effort, but to chance.Micro-Transaction Integration: The "aesthetic" you love is slowly bled into the store. You buy the "look" to recapture the honeymoon phase of the game’s reveal.
>>560747231Statistically most people played Tarkov in a squad
funny how this thread was fairly positive a few days ago and then bungie came in from the top rope to rape the players
>>560747306You niggers have been in these generals from the start, don't try to rewrite reality
>>560747217you can go back to your own dead games general, im sure its neat and tidy
>>560747082>>560747194game funyou bad and sadme like game bang bang shooty ur dead hahah gimme ur shinies
>anon discovers what modern "games" are
They already backtracked on ranked being trio only, but with solo essentially being just an handicap against other trios, with no benefits. Once again solo is just an afterthought they can't balance for shit.
>>560747382i was posting positively until the forced trios thing was confirmed. if you don't think the tone of the thread has soured dramatically you're in denial
>>560747302The Devaluation of Time: By making progress reversible (losing gear), the game treats the player's time as a disposable resource for the "health" of the server's economy.Toxic Communication Channels: Proximity chat and lack of moderation in "social spaces" allow the most aggressive voices to set the tone, creating a "normalized" environment of abuse.The "Rook" Power Gap: Implementing high-tier "boss" players or bots that "perma-run" creates an envy-loop. You aren't playing to have fun; you're playing to stop being the victim.Conditioned Response to Cues: The specific sound of an extraction flare or a shield crack becomes a "trigger" that produces a physical response (heart rate increase), even when you aren't playing.The "Stash" Tetris: Managing loot in the menu is a "low-stress" dopamine filler that keeps you in the app between the "high-stress" raids. It’s the "quiet time" after an argument.The Finality of the "Uninstall": The game is designed to be hard to quit. By leaving at Level 50, you've essentially broken a psychological lock that was engineered by some of the best behavioral scientists in the industry.Conclusion: A Masterpiece of ManipulationBungie has created a game that is technically brilliant and artistically sublime, but ethically bankrupt. It is a product that views "Engagement" and "Addiction" as the same metric. Your "trash" review isn't just a critique of mechanics; it's a rejection of a psychological contract you never signed.
>>560747082>>560747194interesting analysis, sir. did you write this up yourself or copy it from twitter?
>>560747084yeah I need to just keep at it, gets frustrating/tilting on a huge lose streak or where you only extract with like +800 credits and your teamates are each over 8k. Feels like I fell too far behind and can't get my bearings properly to catch up
>>560747589nooooo im being manipulated into having fun and sinking time into a game i enjoy noooo
>>560747382no I was relatively positive about the game until yesterday, now I understand why destiny fans hate bungie
I'm curious how they can add custom runners back into the gameMaybe something like Rook where it's a side class with its own game mode?
toxic gamers man
>>560747306I don't think it was anything Bungie did, this current schizo is just new
what if Bungie made Cryo a place where we will have to work with another team to complete a puzzle, though once the loot opens you can choose to backstab each other
Is there a point where solo queueing just becomes pointless misery
>>560747082And somehow fucking Division 1 solved all this shit and did it better with Survival fucking 10 years ago, they just had the misfortune that everybody got soured on the game, and with a more living game pve progression type thing, a more crushable disposable vanity sort of mode people didn't really "get" it. That game mode was infinitely more satisfying for the basic zero to hero random enough chance shit despite how most people would play the final Hunter leg in the dark zone fairly same-y for safety sake
>>560747738should have been fully custom runners from the start with cores being abilities but zeigler had to introduce his dumbass hero bullshit
>>560747589Kys faggot no one wants to read your essay on why you're a weak willed tranny
>>560747738They could just add a customizable runner as an extra, call it mimic or replicator or something and it's ability is that you can mix and match the other shells abilities and passives, but the downside it that it can't use the specific cores, also instead of skins it has single customizable body parts.
>>560747302>Narcissistic Validation: The game gives toxic players (like the 4chan user) a platform to exert dominance. The "Exfil Rate" becomes a proxy for self-worth, which the game reinforces with flashy UI and leaderboards.But there is no such UI nor leaderboard. Nice ChatGPT analysis you got there
>>560747589>leaving at level 50Oh you're the one person having a gigantic melty about not being able to make friends in random queue and therefore not enjoying the game. So what you got ChatGPT to write this massive essay for you about how Marathon sucks from a psychological perspective and you think that makes you right? Get another hobby, go away. Guess what genius: Sometimes it can still be fun to lose, especially if the fight was good. This game is incredibly good at making sure you can get back on your feet and try again. It's also probably the single most communicative and cooperative randoms experience I've had in ages. People want to cooperate and exfil, you just have to talk to themBut you dug your heels in so far your legs have snapped off. Just go play something you like ffs.
>>560747738fire the valorant fag and remove hero characters
>>560746918in-game interactions are performative and fake as fuck anyway, so you often get people being cringeworthily overly friendly to avoid friction where co-op is necessary at best and its very noticable which makes the entire thing uncomfortable
So when does this game get sweaty?
>>560748121the people who talk about making friends through video games are not even socially aware enough to even notice this lol
>cannot disable crossplay on PCFuck that noise. Consoleniggers are the worst shit ever - fucking aim assist.
>>560748141We covered this. You're the swreat.
>>560748121>>560748183Hoo boy I do forget this entire site is full of spiteful, angry autists sometimes.
>>560748243But you can though?
>>560748060>Oh you're the one person having a gigantic melty about not being able to make friends in random queue and therefore not enjoying the game. that was a different anon actuallyI'm the one that was focusing on the intermittent reinforcement component>>560748183honestlyits two levels of incentivisation that I just don't like1 - incentivisation to be as sociopathic as possible, fucking people over when necessary. even to a degree where when someone fucks me over I want to compensate myself for that by doing it to someone else2 - incentivisation to be friendly with people I don't like just to get a successful run and to be fake / performative just to get them to be cooperative. knowing full well they're likely doing the same thing with me whether they're aware of it or notits just a horrible experience either wayalso, lets not forget, if you weren't paired up with the overly friendly guy in your trio on mic, he'd be in someone else's team and would fuck you over in a heartbeat even if you're a friendly rookso you're paired up with toxic people pretending to be friendly so they're not fucked over by other players just as toxic and sweaty as themjust an awful experience all round and the more I think about it the more I can see why these toxic mongs are so locked in and tonguepunching bungie fartboxes
>>560747738That poor lady who said “choose your own expression” laid off, and then all those long flagged Bungie removed concept pieces of gloves and armor and runner faces when the thing was supposed to be a your guys scenario. I mean I get this isn’t a dress up game but I wouldn’t have been mad to have some extra flavor to the look of characters
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/ranked_in_marathon
>minimum ante for platinum: 10koh boy this ranked+ is gonna be some crazy ratting with longshot thermals
>>560748121>ugh it's all so like, faggotHoly shit man it's literally not that deep. Most in-game interactions are functional and about doing shit in the game. Maybe a bit of idle bitching or a laugh or two.
>>560748407>you are autistic for understanding that online relationships are not substantiallol ok
>>560748407the game is literally designed for that exact personality type kek
>>560748484its already in the OP which noone reads anyway (case in point)
>>560748570You are autistic for thinking that matters
>>560748656I'm not the one talking about how epic it is to make discord friends and play a video game with them
>>560748551no it really isthe guys you're with will soon stop being overly friendly when you make them lose their non-freekit gear lol
They should remove the random effects on every fucking implant and chip, when I loot an implant I want to know that it has the same effects of all the other implants with the same name in my inventory, it adds useless complication to the game, I hate getting an implant that makes me faster when i break my shield but also makes my farts sound like birds, why even is it in the game, it's forced randomness just to make it look like there's more loot.
Ranked seems kinda dumb in its execution because other players will always have the most valuable shit (their gear) compared to stumbling through containers and shooting bots unless you somehow luck out and find a lockbox room
so when are the queue times going to be fixed. i hope to fucking god this ranked shit is a part of the same queue and isn’t separate
Gigaflop
>>560748484>you can play ranked solo don't worry we listened>it's against trios, no you don't get any additional rewards, fuck you
>>560748707Nobody is, they're saying it's a good way to people who communicate so that you can mutually enjoy the videogame a bit more.
>>560748795not even top 10 in its own platform, sony must be pissed
>>560748941nobody's disagreeing with that. we're just saying its not a solution for bad game design
>>560748951Good, I hope Sony makes Bungie less retarded
>>560748795I didn't even know Roblox was on console
>>560748795deeply melanated list on basedstation
>>560749013Because you think that playing a game with someone needs some genuine connection, because you are autistic.
the rewards for ranked are absolute shit why the hell would I even bother engaging in it
>>560748570Your entire demeanor screams nonfunctional autistic sperg. Thinking everyone is fake online because you are is some special tier retardation and spitefulness.t. made bunch of irl friends through competitive online games and meeting up with them initially through offline eventsI really just pity you.
>>560749158Supposedly the overall quality of loot will be higher on ranked maps
>>560748941every complaint about the new map being trios only has some failed normalfag replying to sperg out about how important it is to have online friends (not a real thing btw) but ok
>>560748464No, you cannot.
>>560749016that's a though task
>>560749276There's an option for cross play?
>>560749208ah here's the failed normalfag crying about how his online relationships are totally heckin meaningful right on cue
>>560749069no, I never said that. nor would I. what I said was its an uncomfortable experience when you come across socially inept people who are overly friendly and fake. you don't need a genuine connection to not be overly friendly and fake. you just need to be genuine and normal which unfortunately most people cannot do. especially younger generations. not really a problem in older mmos with older populations but is a massive issue with newer games with younger populations. zoomers don't know how to be normal socially and I'd rather not navigate social ineptitude in my downtime
>>560749016Only way I can see that happening is if Sony steps in with new creative directors and says>You either quit pandering to streamerfags or some of you will lose your jobs by the end of April.
I am a Destroyer main and I like queueing with two Vandals
>>560748793Boy do I have news for you buddy.
>>560749450covid isolation and social media in tandem completely destroyed a lot of young peoples' ability to socialize, they probably don't even comprehend what you're saying
>>560749372Doesnt work on PC. It can be enabled/disabled on consoles, not on PC.
>>560749634yeah thats why I'm not a cunt about it. but I'd still rather not deal with it. its an obstacle I don't need
>>560749450Older populations are the literal only place I encounter people being overly friendly and fake, as someone who's 30. You see this most in obnoxious reddit dad types, but even beyond that there's a lot of cringe attempts to be overly friendly.Zoomers genuinely do not care to do this because they were raised in an environment where they can effortlessly block anyone who they dislike.>>560749634>anyone who disagrees with me just doesn't understandMore autism.
>>560748770I called this shit the second it got leaked, it looked way too top heavy on RNG and the inevitable higher target score values at higher levels basically would require you have multiple down players dog tags and also have a bunch of high value shit. Now sure common sense would see it is encouraging pvp fronted play and you’d get the opposing team’s shit that would have value but what if you get some anal destroyer death squad who wipes all but one team in lobby and says fuck it we leave, congrats now team left is basically looking at a draw at best or wasting time trying to scrounge for anything
>>560748795>hardcore niche game has a niche audience:O
Paid 30€ to get rapedHave been raped for over 30 hoursCan't refund anymore
>>560749839when I say older I mean older than me and I'm 36 kek
>>560749839zoomers are probably the single most painfully performative demographic to ever live, they learned how to socialize from youtube and tiktok
>>560749839i dont think its an older gen phenomena. people just have different ideals and ideas what a game is about.i played a lot of rust, dayz and you never run out of "hey friendly" types in those games, ever. me personally i have "kos'd" since day 1.
>>560750078they're so performative being performative is one of the latest anti-male zoomer female oriented memes but its going the other way now too and they're just starting to realise how performative they really are kek
i love how the game rewards me for hardly being good.
>>560748141I don't understand how every time a gif like this is being posted or someone is streaming they go up against the most retarded, lack-of-spacial-awareness, plebs I've ever seen but when I'm playing it's a lobby of shroud combined with zkmushroom-tier movement
>>560749984Still very common to find fake performative people of those ages, just most of them aren't online playing games.>>560750156I'm pretty sure he's not talking about people saying they're friendly and not to shoot them, anon.
>>560750181Usually because dabbing on retarded freekit solos isn't that hard
>>560750263mb ig, assumed it was gaming related.
anywaysaid all I want to sayI'll pop back in whenever the game shows another big sign of failure and subsequent eoslater homos
bro thinks hes the main characterwe DONT CARE
>>560750360I recommend /dg/ in that case
Okay but looking for games on discord IS a humiliation ritual if you're in a shitty dead region.
>>560750520destiny is so far gone /dg/ spends 95% of the time talking about marathon now. It really should have become /dmg/ both because they're basically the same bungie failure but also because it's the same name as their even more useless CM
>>560750565having to interact with discord people is a humiliation ritual for anybody who is remotely functional in the real world
CryArchive
Escharum won, Destiny lost, Marathon lost, Bungie lost We claimed /dg/ we now claim /mg/ as rightful /hg/ clay
>>560750678You sound incredibly insecure if something as simple as saying lfg gives you a mental breakdown
>>560750274>purple shield is free kit
>>560750565>everyone has more requirements than the job posting at mcdonalds>do one mistake>get judged and dropped for itits a humiliation ritual either way
>>560750678I used to post on brit/pol/ and we had a brit/pol/ discord once but I left because it got weird real fast and a few months later people started having meetups irl and drinking, then it turned out they were having gay sex and it all blew up because one guy gave another herpes, then got doxxed, tried to set his flat on fire with him in it and kill everyone in his building because of the shame of herpesgate and went to jail. never again will I use discord. that was a close call
>>560750812you must be incredibly secure if that post caused you to feel the need to start spouting hyperbolic insults
>>560750181It's called applying pressure. You need at least 1 person to be a constant threat so if they ever try to not look at them they will get destroyed. Guy below me is applying that pressure.
this is it, I have deleted Arc Raiders and all other games that would divert my attention I am all in on Marathon, I will play for at least 19 hours a day, that is my limitI will also buy two copies for both consoles to help pump up the sales and leave them running at the menu to raise player countMarathon is going to win
>>560750905>British /pol/ discord server I mean were you expecting normal, stable people from the thread content
>>560750785Halouncs…I kneel…
>>560751082honestly some of the lads there are alright but the discord attracted all the druggies and bummers and weirdos and sociopath wannabes
>do sekiguchi intro quest from CYAC>Runner inject this poison and scan yourself!>run around orientation looking all over>fiinally find the scanner in a fucking locker room that had claymores all around itWhat the fucking hell is this shit? I died 3 times attempting this mostly because I had no idea where the fucking scanner would even be. Even more weird, there is a literal medbay in fucking orientation that would have made sense!>look at next quest from Sekiguchi directly>chop your shells dick off. Break your legs. Let bugs eat you. ExfilWHAT THE FUCK!?
>>560750905>/pol/fags are mentally unstable and have gay sexYes clearly it is Discord's fault for this
>>560751052Can you just gift my two friends steam keys instead.
>>560749942you cant rape the willing
why can't you just be loyal to bungie?
i dont really care about the 40 bucks im out but i do feel kind of bad for having given it to bungie, i should have known better
>load in as rook to kill UESC and farm matrixes so I can make keys>other rooks and players will drop everything they are doing to come out of pinwheel to try and kill me when I'm gunning down UESC on the roads and in dormsIs it just arachne goons looking to gain rep or do people think I actually have something worthwhile to pick off me?
thanks for supporting the game solocucks but its time for the BIG DAWGS to play
Solo chads... we lost. The trio timmys are dunking on us. They get the cryo archives. We get nothing.
>>560752769they house no thoughts inside their heads besides chasing the immediate dopamine hit of getting a player kill
>>560752769It's the result of bungie/redditards aggressively marketing the game as hardcore PvP game
>>560747738scav life would go insane in any game really
>>560752864it makes the inevitable layoffs at bungie even funnier
>>560752864>>560753087Is it the ultimate and final cuck to know that solo UESC bot kills are funding the cryo archive release?
wstr is op
>>560752864>We get nothing.We get to kill the game.This should be a good incentive to keep playing and keep getting better.The more we rape, the faster the game will die.
>ranked is weekends-onlyWhat the fuck, it's not even a proper sweat containment zone that's the one thing it was supposed to do. I was fucking promised an end to the rape
UESC decided to stop fucking around, huh?
>>560753240It can be, but there's also the sweet knowledge that Cryo access is basically held captive by Solo players.
Have you prayed to NuCaloric today for your calories?
>>560752864>We get nothingthey also get nothing because the game will die, and bungie obviously knows it since they already cucked out on ranked
what was the link to the /vg/ discord?
>solocucks think pissing in each others mouths in their containment afterthought mode is gonna affect the gamelmao gj raping yourselves>b-but rookbeen playing for 30 hours with my trio and rooks have been nothing but loot pinatas, keep em coming
>>560753406this is almost certainly meant to be a solution to the playerbase not being large enough to support two additional matchmaking modes
>>560753406Wait I am confused about that. It says you can enter as a lone wolf? Does that mean ranked can be played solo as well?
>when you load into trio and realize your other two teammates are a Vandal and Thief
i see they stopped feeding them scripts and the latest firmware update didn't come through so it's just an endless loop of the last track
>>560754173the current script is something along the lines of "it was always meant to be a trios game, just join the discord and stop bitching"
>>560753406lol it's trials 2.0
>>560754104I actually prefer fill teamates playing them cause I know they'll use their fucking abilities, as opposed to playing Triage and just only throwing a med drone on themselves and not using their ult, or playing Recon and never fucking using her wall hacks or interrogating
>>560753240idk I already stopped playing
>load into trios with blue shield, weps and heals>other two are grey free shitters>load into trios as free sponsor shitter>one teammate has blue shield and other has purple MAKE IT MAKE FUCKING SENSE BUNGO
>>560754445>you have to install a third party software, make an account, join the server and organize with strangers and get on a call to experience the full game, it was always meant to be played like this.some people unironically believe this
>>560754713This always happens to me too
>>560754713yep lul i made the same comment last thread
It looks like the game is already starting to feel the falloff of solo players, surely bungie sees the writing on the wall and will change course (copium)
>>560754909Bungie will literally rather die than ever admit they were wrong.
>>560754909No one cares about solo players except for assassin and thief mains
>>560753406Bah, they can go to hell and fucking rot there.
>>560755069and people who want the game to live past a year
>>560755141Until they add in shell customization and actual good rewards, solo will always just be a worse rook mode
Sony if you can hear us, please, Sony, please save us. Please save us, Sony, please.
>>560754909you got the solo players souring, the misguided PvE players souring, and you have the players who would enjoy trios if it wasn’t an absolute shitshow of matchmaking ordinary players with crackhead PvP Gods who have 900k in the vault and drop into every match dripping in purplesI’m honestly quite amazed at how Bungie took the mantra of ‘A Game For Everyone Is A Game For No-One’ and decided to make Marathon for a tiny fucking sliver of the hardcore gaming community, truly impressive
>>560754713This but unironically
>Bungie posted the numbers!>go check >they’re celebrating discord numbers >its 400k lol lmao
>>560754713there has to be some sort of logic governing this, it happens to me EVERY TIME. imagine it's to keep teams balanced and not throw every fullkit in the lobby in a group that steamrolls everyone
>>560755069I play solo only and I run vandal
>>560755535Then you picked your own hell
>>560755473Kys destinyshillbotjeet
>>560755473I actually checked the discord and people are whining about queue times in there right now. lmfao
>>560755506The other option is that the overall amount of sponsor kit heroes is just a larger pool overall, especially in the lower level brackets. I've had quite a balanced share of both, but it's also usually more in the level 75+ match making.
>>560755535vandal is so good when u realize that the arm cannon actually deals decent damage to bots + bonking people out of cover is insane
>>560755664>Discord
>>560755614shell*
>lock the most interesting lore and map behind a forced pre-made trio requirement that will only cater to the top players who most likely don't care about the loreplease Bungie let the maps have a patrol version where we can explore the areas with UESC to fight at our own pace, no loot needed, because it's all really cool but I never have time to interact with any of it, like the museum in Outpost with the narration
>>560755853It's just trios not premade you can stop lying now
>lying about ranked >lying about cryo >lying about ARG>lying about queue times>lying about budgets>lying about playerbase Holy fucking shit these Destiny raped cuckjeet niggers are so fucking annoying.
hey, they added a duo queue for perimeter
okay, give it to me hard, fast and straight, Marathon Sistersare we back?
>>560756496as a straight white male, I can confirm we never left.Marathon is Bungie's best game since Oni.
>>560755473>discord numbers>discord>where people can gather even if they have not played or bought the gameLOL.
Destroyed some purple/gold guys. So when does this game get sweaty?
>>560756496Yup. They just added Duos for Perimeter. Loving it already, I’m hooked.
>>560756629huh???
>>560756625What does the BRRT Gold mod do?
>>560756625>be me>free kit>enter the pinwheel>kill one purple guy>get out
>”blast”.replace(“hooked”)>3000 rupees saar
>>560756924it's dogshit maybe why they died 1v3
>>560756956>free kit on Outpost>kill as many people as I can, exfil if I can>never loot anyone or anything, making it so no one will ever have that loot except for maybe Rookseven Mida is afraid of a true anarchist like me
>>560757228i mean its pretty high dps its just limited to 7 shots cuz the brrt takes no mags
dire marsh is my favourite map I like how big it is
cryo is my favorite map
>>560757414still not as big as your MOM HAH GOT 'EM (that will be $5 dollars please I accept PayPal/Venmo/Apple Pay/Google Pay/CashApp/Check/Cash/Crypto)
>>560757295Against purple shields>4 meatshots to kill>3 full headshots to killThis is assuming zero misses. Doesn't seem amazing given the burst delay isn't tiny so the ROF isn't too high, and you're so limited on shots? Half a mag is a pretty tight kill. Basically a shotgun that hits out to 20m but does half the damage?I've not used it though, obviously.
>>560757704id estimate about 250-300 rpm which still puts the dps well above a headshot only bully, just dont miss
>>560757910How tight is the spread though? You don't just need to not miss, you need to hit centrally.
how is concord 3 doing?
>>560758573Heading for another 50k day
are ccu threads on resetera always that doomer or is this like a marathon specific thing again by the chuds? the game has quite a stable player base and yet all I can see on there is relentless dooming. depressing
>>560758573Stabilizing to a paltry 78 times Concord's all time peak.
>>560758883>the game has quite a stable player baseit hasn't even been 2 weeks wtf are you talking about stable for? and even then each week is getting lower
>>560746802This game is ugly. It feels like some kind of social/brain experiment. It's style involves a low of interesting things but combined in a way that the end result feels wrong. It is unholy.
>>560759140>2 days after launch>ITS STABLEThis is the weirdest cope in the thread. You should not want your new game to be "stable" 2 weeks after launch. You'd want it to be growing because it will plummet later.
>no safe pocket>keys have to be risked to be used>opening a key room makes a very loud obvious sound to anyone in the area>they can't be closed>"making keys" with the key making item requires you to never get downed so you just sit in a corner for 20 minutes until the map is empty and leave
>>560759140The initial dropoff that most games have is over, is the point. It'll probably trend down further but it'll keep some playerbase for the next while unless something drastic happens.
>>560753620https://discord.gg/RDy8sPCeKc
>>560759228>You'd want it to be growingA comically fucking tiny number of games are still growing two weeks after launch. Most of the exceptions are largely unmarketed streamerbait as well.
>>560759282the dropoff is objectively accelerating thanks to the cryo archive fiasco
>>560759163that is the intent I believe, as everything was made by various AI. While to them everything is functional and efficient, and maybe to humans in 2800-2900, in 2026 we might still think it looks wrong or that something's off
>>560759282>The initial dropoff that most games have is overAfter a month. Most games grow especially with heavy streamer support. No shit it will keep a player base it wont go down to 0 but very likely it goes down to 30k.
I hate everything about this shit questIt's extremely tight on time even with an organized team and a lucky tick nest placement
>>560759282that is not stable. it launched with pretty timid numbers to begin with. that is treading water if it can only keep "some playerbase" from that point
I think it's its admirable a major company is willing to do weird and niche shit instead of just pandering to the majority like most.
>>560759427almost like banking on extraction liveslop is a fucking stupid idea, huh?
>>560759702i would usually agree with this but i dont think pandering to streamers is particularly admirable even if they are a small population
>>560759570>timid numbersName an extraction shooter that did better
>>560758883Not sure losing 40% of your already modest peak within just 2 weeks is stable, bud
>gets called out in the comments>cant refute anything>makes another retweet about it>i make a post abuot it on 4chanwhats with these people?
>>560759702>Cashing in on the Tarkov GAAS trend that is already 5 years dated>weird and niche
>>560759939>trendlol
>>560759904*** *******
>>560759432>fiascolmao>>560759464>After a monthNo, first week or two is universally where the majority of dropoff happens out of the next several months. This is the chart for Nightreign, which was the latest proper baseline comparison I can think of. Reasonable success, well marketed, AAA multiplayer game. Numbers dropped by half in two weeks, which is proportionally worse than Marathon. It then dropped another third over the next two weeks. This is a typical pattern for most releases.
>>560759904they're all timid numbers. thanks for agreeing.
>>560759702a niche genre that is made with trends in minddoes it really become niche at that point? it seems to go against all design philosophy when you make a live service game that needs sales to keep going and you base it off a niche genreand even then, its hardly that genre anymore when its broken and busted enough to be having shit like movement "tech" and not even played like the niche genre in the first place and instead plays like the popular genre, battle royal?
>>560760015Who?>>560760073>they're all timid numbers.No, they are great numbers. It competes with most free to play releases that isn't MOBA
>>560760213>Who?lurk more
>>560760034so i assume you looked at the numbers, saw that the dropoff was in fact accelerating, and then had no response
>>560760213>No, they are great numbers.If you're a small studio, yeah.Bungie is not, Marathon had a large budget, and I doubt Sony paid billions to just edge ahead of the smaller studios
>>560760319>saw that the dropoff was in fact acceleratingThe fuck are you on about? Last daily peak was higher than the previous.
>>560760503the game lost 5,000 players today when on previous weekdays it was losing one or two thousand. there's no weaseling away from that fact
>>560760420How big Bungie is is irrelevant, Marathon is not their only game nor their most expensive >>560760252What are you talking about?
>>560760585you're purposely excluding the larger extraction shooter that came out the same time the original marathon release date was because you're going to claim that it's too "casual" to be an extraction shooter out of bad faith. This extraction shooter did and continues to do much better but it doesn't fit your narrative
>>560760503the cryo fiasco is losing them players at an accelerated rate they better clarify shit fast
>>560760034>No, first week or two is universally where the majority of dropoff happens out of the next several months. This is the chart for Nightreign, which was the latest proper baseline comparison I can think of. Reasonable success, well marketed, AAA multiplayer game. Numbers dropped by half in two weeks, which is proportionally worse than Marathon. It then dropped another third over the next two weeks. This is a typical pattern for most releases.And there have been examples of plenty of successful games that grew after a couple weeks with heavy streamer support. Marathon is not one of them, which would be fine BUT with heavy streamer support and marketing behind it, Marathon not only launched to small numbers, but it is slowly falling down. You can't call it stable when it has not even been two weeks. The drop off is going to be even more severe.>>560760503>The fuck are you on about? Last daily peak was higher than the previous.By about 1k, after a patch for the big map reveal. Now compare it to last weeks. It has been losing players. Its like saying BF6 is growing because its weekend trend had more players
>>560760420I know you're just chart shitposting but for a non meme answer:Marathon is obviously not much of a financial success but a $4b buyout doesn't happen because you think the company you're buying is just going to push out the next big thing. It's to poach tech and expertise, to drive stock prices in the short term, and to prevent competitors from buying them up instead.A lot of Bungie people wound up shifted around to other Sony studios, in particular Concord which was like significantly ex-Bungie driven afaik. They also wanted general expertise in supporting other live service games Sony was looking for at the time, which was also of course a bust.Stopping Microsoft from reacquiring Bungie during a period where Microsoft was aggressively buying up fucking everyone was also not a non-factor.
>>560760585>How big Bungie is is irrelevantOf course it's relevant. They put a shitload of money into the game.>Marathon is not their only game nor their most expensiveLemme just see how the other game is doing and-- oh dear.
is it possible to adopt Bingus?
>>560760558It literally did not.>>560760810There was no actual reveal. We literally learned nothing new about it today.>Its like saying BF6 is growing because its weekend trend had more playersThe past two daily highs were weekdays.It's not growing but pretending it's in some accelerated death spiral when the numbers are objectively stable is just retarded.
>>560760756uh-huh, just like they NEED to add PvE NOW or the entire playerbase will be gone in one week, right?
>duos is out before cryoNice arg faggots.
>>560760857Yeah yeah whatever, a lot of words to basically say the same thing that they're missing the mark>Stopping Microsoft from reacquiring BungieMicrosoft rejected buying Bungie before Sony went in.
>>560760995>It literally did not.oh you're right. the current day over day loss has actually increased to 7,000 since i last checked. lol
>>560760857I don’t think anyone was really chomping at the bit to buy bungie, even microsoft declined them. Sony simply fumbled hard
Telling a chud the game isn't dying is like telling a child santa isn't real
>>560761256>a lot of words to basically say the same thing that they're missing the markNo it's a lot of words to point out that you're a mouthbreather if you think the point of Sony buying Bungie was because Marathon would sell a billion copies
>>560760995>are objectively stableIt is objectively not though? Week to week it has been losing more and more players. Are you so delusional that you think it will somehow keep 50k peaks forever? Not even something like Apex managed to keep half their highest peak, and half is generous for 99% of games. An all time peak of 88k, again, you're looking at the number settling around 30k.
The game isn't dying.But it should be.Unfortunately we are not in a fair universe.
>>560761738This is the Marathon thread, back to your Raped general.
>>560759456That would be an interesting approach.
>>560756625This is the sweats wearing purple/golds down in ~20 seconds. So when does this game get hard?
>can't use a DCON to safely move resources, they only move quest items>i've been shoving unstable gel in these things every opportunityhaha oops...
>>560759904Arc RaidersCoD DMZArena Breakout Infinite, if you count console numbers.
>>560760738>you're purposely excluding the larger extraction shooter that came out the same time the original marathon release date was because you're going to claim that it's too "casual" to be an extraction shooter out of bad faith. An "extraction" where I can simply not engage in any PVP, even when attacked, so that the only danger is specific pve content in pocket islands, is not an extractionDad Raiders is a casual looter shooter>>560760938>Of course it's relevant. No it's not>They put a shitload of money into the game. Source ??
>>560760995>The past two daily highs were weekdays.The "Monday peak" was Sunday bleeding into Monday because only Amerigolems play this slop. You have one weekday peak shill-kun.
>>560760857>this guy's back to derail the thread im going back to tau ceti
>signal jammer sniperYou didn't beat the game
>>560761926Just seems like an average friend group. The sweats would have circled around the right and reset the fight instead of attempting to lane with a sniper.
>>560761953GEL IT UP
>>560762010What the fuck are you on about? Americans have the last timezone. By the time it was at the monday peak, it was tuesday for everyone else. How are you retards so fucking desperate for your doomposts you say insane shit like this?
>>560762197Who would've circled the last guy?
>>560761926good playery typically dont get caught out like that
>>560762159Anon I'm not the guy chartposting, unless you consider any deviation from that to be derailing.
>"Tuesday for everyone else"this is an American game you europoorcuck faggot, jeets and SEAniggers need not apply
>>560762004>is not an extraction>have to do x in set time limit and then leave through a specific point>not an extractionIt appears you have a different understanding of the term.
>>560762369This is what you guys don't understand 99% of players are dogshit who are overconfident because they run purple shields and think they can run down everyone. It's literally free loot.
>>560762409chartposting is bad. you talking in circles about sony buying bungie and what that means for the world is bad.
>>560762004a shame you can't defend any of your points with anything more than being intentionally obtuse and hitting people with the ol' "nuh-uh"
The only Europeans I respect are Australians because they are spiritually American.
>>560762536How dare someone talk about the company that made this game. I'm also confused why you think this is some recurring thing.
>>560760106extraction shooters have never been a trend
>>560762252>By the time it was at the monday peak,The Monday peak was from Sunday, that 60k was Sundays since the chart is in our time. So that Monday 00:00 was still evening for amerigolems. So it was not a Monday evening peak of 60k. Hope this helps you understand.
>>560762004it's still an extraction shooter rajesh, your feelings literally do not matter. It's also blowing marathon out of the water and will continue to do so, get fucked
>>560762758I was referring to the peaks occurring at 1/2 AM on tuesday and wednesday UTC. Neither of which were the 60k peak, and neither had any weekend traffic. You're missing a day, anon.
the fact is the audience of people who like very easy games that "feel" difficult (arc raiders care bears) is much larger than hardcore PVP gamers who like actual difficulty and punishmentWe will hold.
>#1 on Xbox store by revenue>still seething and coping about how it’s totally going to dieThe Destiny raped cuckfags are retarded.
>>560762529you got a drop on some bots.they were clueless
>>560763070what is this meme that Marathon is a hardcore game?
>>560762974not him but I'm trying to understand what you're even trying to communicate. Are you just saying that the previous two 24-hour peaks were both on weekdays? As in, today is wednesday, and thus the previous two days were weekdays, and both of those 24 hour periods contained one highest number because that's literally just how numbers work?
>>560763171there are players who are trying to kill you instead of dispensing loot like a vending machine while smoking a joint
i need an elite player to tell me the like 3 or 4 best chip mods so i can delete all others. tired of having an entire page of chip mods
>>560763157>bots are running thermals with golden attachments
>>560757228hold up, did they really name an smg BRRT? holy reddit
>>560763215Genuinely, are you mentally disabled? The past two peaks were entirely on weekdays, everywhere in the world. They went up, not down. Not the one on the left, but the two on the right. It's not fucking complicated.
Why are extraction shooters hardcore anyways because you get the drop on some guy while you hid 30 mins in a corner? Warzone is more skill-based.
>>560756625>>560757228>>560761926>Oh god I'm so good at this game guys look at how big my fucking cock is ughhhhgnnnghhh god fuck yes its not a big deal or anything but fuuuuck im soo good ughnnnnSomehow these types of posts are more annoying to me than the chart posters or delusionals that keep coming in here to hate on the game instead of doing literally anything else
>>560763328proof? also I already said this game has a fairly low skill ceiling. if you got some basics like aim and strafing and abilities, it doesnt go much beyond that.if anything the biggest skill ceiling is probably min maxing utility and chip/implant suffixes which so far hasnt been meta'd yet.
>>560763393i think your point might actually be so incomprehensibly, meaninglessly retarded that nobody else on earth can understand it
>>560763393>everywhere in the world.not in muttland, and even then comparing it to tuesday, the number goes down and barely goes back up. what the fuck are you smoking son where its the two highest peaks? sundays is much higher.
>>560759904hunt is the only one that can be compared and it's a small fucking project made by a company that's a quarter the size of bungie with a fraction of the budget
imma be real, I feel like Bungie really made this community of specific gamers from the Halo days that their mentality carried into Destiny and now Marathon.it's like we're still arguing about Halo to this day
>>560763578i think he is literally just trying to say that monday and tuesday both contained player peaks
It's a shame hunt sucks now, also it really just makes me wish we'd get a big fully realized stalker-esque game in the same setting.
>>560763539>the number isn't going down is genuinely impossible for chartniggers to understand>>560763578The peak at 1am, Tuesday UTC is not Sunday in America.The peak at 1am, Wednesday UTC was higher than the one at 1am Tuesday UTC. These are both weekdays. The number did not go down. What about this do you not understand?
>>560763171It's not exactly like that. It's more of a series of steps. Most people generally only have surface level of understanding of most of the games they play. It's why player retention for Marathon is quite punishing. The ridiculously mentally and emotionally fragile will get filtered in the first wave. You're in an hostile environment and everyone wants to kill you. The second strike is the hoarders. They absolutely obsess over every piece of loot and literally see investments go up in smoke whenever their shiny toys either get klepped or go up in smoke. The third is then the FPS gaming sphere as a whole, there are those with thousands of hours of training and headstart in a game like this, so obviously all the development is a rigorous uphill battle. That's one of the reasons why i think the game is fucking amazing. It'll completely filter those who are not there to invest their time in the first place, but creates an absolutely stellar and fun FPS experience for anyone who can actually start climbing the steps. I've seen a lot of backlash for games like Concord and Highguard. Their problem wasn't that they were good games that were abandoned, it's that they were shit games that have no audience while Bungie almost accidentally stumbled into a formula that barely anyone in the industry can replicate solely because of it's structure. Either it was intentional or unintentional, but this is where we're at right now.
>>560763695this game is literally their (the chair's) baby. halo + destiny were just cash cows to make this game but then they run out of time/money and SNOY bought them out/forced them to release early.they must be malding more than the doomposters here
>>560763754the number went down from mondays peak at 1 am overall though and went down even further from last weeks mondaynumber did go down
>>560763747>Seasons Rapings to you!
>>560763856>b-b-b-but last week>b-b-b-but the weekendI accept your concession. This whole thing started with someone trying to say the decline was accelerating, when it has in fact stalled.
>just sell your gear bro just find the ultra rare suffix+implant combos when you need them bro just find the cores when you need them bro ??????????????????????
>>560763950you might want to hold off on making that claim until you see today's peak bro
>>560764062>goalposts
What's a minimum budget loadout I should be bringing to trios to not be a complete liability? I'm a noob and just been doing solo missions with free kit to get a feel for the game, but it's getting lonely.
>>560763950>when it has in fact stalled.>continous downward trenddont be an economist bro
>>560764085>the decline has stalled>actually there's a significant decline so far today>erm you moved the goalposts...alright
>>560764138free kit in trios, do not waste your best stuff unless you have a pre-made team
>>560764138Green loadout is fine, but you will run into plenty of freekits
>>5607641385k is pretty average and achievable with mostly green mid-priced weapons and gear and that is usually very much enough for holding your own. You can maybe toss in a blue shield or implants for good measure, but beyond that you're pretty much in a very good spot for any level of team.
>>560748491Yay, Bungie have invented the Trials of Osiris matchmaking all over again, the kiddie pool vs flawless pool (only available to people with 7 wins in a row with no losses, which, as you can imagine, is an absolute sweatfest and a clownshow if you happen to dabble into probabilities of such outcome).
>>560764191>local rate of change should be ignored because of previous trendsPlease put all your money into stocks, the world needs you to donate your money.
People do realize the ranked mode is score attack, right?
>>560753740Yes but you’ll be against trios, possibly other solos and maybe duos I guess if they can turn fill off. Kind of alright, sometimes when I play rook I kind of wish I could have just ran free kit on another shell as a solo in trios. I mean actually, it wouldn’t be fun because you need to ante up for every gameObviously it’s just because they barely have the player base needed to fracture it between solo, duo, trio queue and ranked. Nevermind further fracturing the ranked queues. It’ll be fun to see how fast silver players find themselves getting matched against too many people in the top brackets
>>560762510>>560762663>>560762776>y-you can't say that, this casualized slop with safe pockets, abmm and walled pve content is TOTALLY extractionLol
I fucking love the M77
Unless they change it so weapons don't count for value added, ranked just seems functionally the same outside of no freeshitters since players will always carry better loot than containers or uesc
>>560763509>proof?Are you retarded? Literally posted with the screenshot of the loot...
>>560765452>M77 and green foregrip/mag mod from Traxus>Green shield/3xmeds/3xchargers from Nucal>Green backpack, 3x light ammo and a CE Tactical Sidearm from CyAcLoad in, simple as. Feels like the one loadout that's cost efficient enough to entirely buy. Very all-round and a free slot to pick up another gun without fucking your loadout up is also nice.
>>560763070>there are more normies than masochists and sadists>sex must be BDSM>if you want sex without BDSM you should GTFOLOL.
>>560763435I'm more making fun of the people crying about some mythical sweats wearing purples wiping out lobbies when they die in like 2 shots anyway.
>>560761953We got a Diddy over here
>>560765825what a waste of money. just use the 2.5k kit from sekiguchi
>>560765161>name a more successful extraction shooter>names a more successful extractionshooter>no wait not that oneyou indians are fucking pathetic, -100000 izzat
>engaging with the bitter playercountcelsshiggidy
engage with thief's dirty diapers
>>560766583>stop talking about it you chuds
>>560763126Xbox is a dead platform anon. Being on the best sellers there means nothing.
>>560763126Why do Maratrannies believe that Bungie will not rape them in the same way as they raped the Destiny audience for more than a decade?
>>560766371>just spend 2.5k for a loadout with a fucking volt SMGUh, I'm good. All the other 2.5ks are cucked in one way or another too.What I listed was ~6.5k. The M77 is 3K of that. You're paying a 1k premium over a 2.5k kit in reality, but you're gaining the ability to bring in a very good gun that works in almost any scenario.
>>560766828Because we're built different. Sorry we're just not as inherently rapable as you guys,
>no loli shells It's over
Do other games do ranked only on weekends? I've never heard of this before.
>>560767032Destiny lmao
>britbong retard dies to npcs>britbong retard looting in a fight and yells curse words and pretends it wasnt his faultwaow..
>>560767032trials of osiris in destiny. not sure if it's one of bungie's weird ego things or just a way to avoid fragmenting a small playerbase
>>560766897Bungie’s rape and humiliation rituals will come for their players all the same. As long as they’re obsessed with live service it’s never a matter of if, but when.
What's wrong with having weekend events? Gives you something to look forward to.
>Goto outpost for contract. >Highly contested area. >Backstab some destroyer in full blues and all the pinwheel keys. >Exfil. >Return with a less expensive kit. >Get the drop on a thief in the same room. >Exfil again. >Finally decide to trios and get two free kitters. >They help me do my contract. >exfil.
>>560746802Which of the female Shells were most likely based on prostitutes or e-thots?
I regret not testing the game during server slam, now I dont know if I would like it or not.Is this game viable for solo player or will I get stuck in long queue? (EU here).If I want to play solo, I assume there is proximity chat, is game filled with fake friendly people that will kill you the moment they got bored of pretending? This one is even more important, I'm playing Arc Raiders and this shit is starting to get tired of this loop, find some free kit dude, talk to them, they seem friendly, they get bored, they backstab, I lose stuff, repeat.
>>560749942I'm not even a hardcore PvP fag but the raping has been 50/50.
>>560767567do not play this game as a solo player. we fell for the false advertising but you don't have to.
>>560767076>>560767150Isn't destiny like a majorly pve game that almost everyone who played it exclusively played pve so the pvp is a tiny little side piece of it? Marathon is just a pvp game, every single marathon player should have some interest in playing ranked.
>>560766718Isn't it interesting that while other companies boeast about wishlists, copies sold or at least total players, all Bungie could show was '400k discord users'?
>>560767567ive played solo for 40h in fills and its not bad. solo mode is meh, doesnt feel like theres as much people to shoot at for some reason. u cant go into the upcoming "hard" map in solo mode. idk about prox chat in solo mode but nobody teams up unless ur a faggot or a rook (scav from tarkov)
>>560767529Thief was based on an OF girl who does diaper and scat content.
>>560766828Sony has a gun to bungies head
>>560763171Upper management at bungo pushing a vibe that mar is an ultra-hardcore constipation-passing-sweatfest. No idea why. Maybe one of those retards is like that guy at bethesda onto whom we can blame degradation of gameplay elements - that fucker was there since Oblivion, and apparently all of the retarded decisions were his choices. So something like that is happening with Mar - uppers going la-la-la-dont-want-to-hear-you-my-shit-is-the-best-shit.I wish there were leaks of recordings from those meetings. Some of the people in upper management of so many companies should just be fucking executed because they are fucking morons who make things worse for everyone, and then proceed to fail upwards because they can lie to the same fuckups like them.
>>560767643It is a PvE game primarily, but those invested in it's "Red Minigame" (Crucible/Trials of Osiris/Iron Banner) PvP modes are all masochistic cucks. I'm pretty sure they would like playing Marathon more solely because it is more focused on PvP.
>>560750078Anytime I get some hint of sass from a younger sounding fillmate I ask them if that's some tiktok meta to ragebait. They usually shut up for the rest of the match. You got to shame them early on.
>>560767567>This one is even more important, I'm playing Arc Raiders and this shit is starting to get tired of this loop, find some free kit dude, talk to them, they seem friendly, they get bored, they backstab, I lose stuff, repeat.Prepare to lose stuff. Ain't nobody friendly in this game.
>>560767643Yes, but Bungie tried to make PvP in Destiny a thing and did everything they could to funnel players into PvP, especially into comp or Trials since the low population and the brutal all-or-nothing nature of this game mode meant population would be low, and sweats and streamers would have to kill each other, and that is bad because they only want to roflstomp casuals, all while casuals avoid this shitfest like plague after trying it once.
>>560767567>Is this game viable for solo player or will I get stuck in long queue?This game is not for solos, period. The PvE is awful and the enemies are designed to be fought by trios mag dumping into them.You won't be able to do the raid solo and there is no solo ranked, you will be put into ranked mode up against trios.
>>560767643Yes and no. It always had a multiplayer mode and in a lot of ways it was the successor to Halo. It had a longlived PvP scene that a decent number of people wound up fairly attached to.
>>560767643You’d think so, but there was a time like Forsaken where the best PvE guns were locked behind comp PvP for literally no reason. And yeah PvE is the big focus, but PvP kept the game alive as a fun minigame whenever the game had content droughts.
>>560767682>all Bungie could show was '400k discord users'?they gave their shills that line too before launch
>>560764060>7 online>2 messagesNo fucking wonder how.
>>560767628Ehh, I heard it wasnt made with solos in mind and it was slapped last second, but is it that bad? I guess playing fill trios wont be any good anyway.>>560767707I figured, Marathon in contrast to Arc seems to be much more PVP focused with PVE feeling like addition, but I'm not talking about "teaming up", I'm talking about firendly-ish encounter, where people just dont fight cause its not worth it.>>560767843Maybe I used poor wording, its not about loosing stuff, I can fight for shit if I need to, not a problem, I just hate when someone appears at first to be friendly just to shoot you in your back the moment you look in different direction or holster your gun.>>560767890I assume that fill with trios is same as in every other multiplayer game of that type...
>>560768089>Maybe I used poor wording, its not about loosing stuff, I can fight for shit if I need to, not a problem, I just hate when someone appears at first to be friendly just to shoot you in your back the moment you look in different direction or holster your gun.There are no friends in this game. Straight KoS.
>>560748951I wonder if CEOs even give a shit about these things and not just wait for the quarterly while drinking Scotch and eating babies from Epstein's Island factory.
>>560764290>>560764313>>560764318I guess that went pretty good (on the 2nd run), cheers. Went with a free kit and just focused on completing contract to kill things with volt weapon.It's probably funner with friends.
>>560762698oh no semantics i guess you won anon!
>>560765161Extraction means you have time limit and in order to complete the task you need to leave though a safe point/area. Thats it. Everything else is optional.Your strawman does more disservice to you by showing that you are nothing more than an asinine shitposter.
>>560768089squad filling with trios is a bad time, you will get matched with free kits or nakeds who will just run off into different directions and act like they're playing solo
>>560768325>five kills>only 2k extractGod damn anon were they literally all freekits or something?
>>560768426I didn't have a backpack. Found a purple 1k doodad and pinged for Assassin to pick it up, eh.
>>560765161>Safe pocketYou mean your anus?
>>560768549He means his PUSSY
>>560768517You didn't think to pick up one from the runners you killed, Anon?
>>560768517I would have assumed one of the people you killed had a backpack.Also having a backpack is one of the biggest advantages to going in with gear instead of a free kit, you should buy one from CyAc most of the time.
I want to my anus to be Vandals safe pocket for her cock
>>560768591>>560768607Unless I'm really blind, none of them had it, yeah.But I might be retarded too, who knows.
>>560767135I hate being matched with bongs so fucking much. They are always come in pairs of two as well
>>560766483>Dad Raiders >ExtractionLol>>560768365>Extraction means only these surface level features I specifically cherrypicked to include Arc Raiders
>>560765161What happened to this artstyleIt's so much better than what we have now
>>560763749Yeah Hunt lost its niche a long time ago. Now it's all full auto weapons and magic in what's supposed to be a cowboy game. Thank fuck marathon came along.
>>560768963it's not trans-friendly.Vandal is trans-friendly.
>>560765473No freeshitters is the exact reason I'm going to play Low Risk lobbies. At least you gotta throw greens on, so trio fills will be the best at that level. >>560768963It was stolen and they had to rework it all.
>sin players just sit invis and do nothing while their whole team dies and has all their gear takeni need you guys to play destroyer for a few rounds and learn what it feels like to GO IN and BE USEFUL
>>560768963what happened is that anon posted fanart and (You) thought it was real for whatever reason
>>560767890>The PvE is awful and the enemies are designed to be fought by trios mag dumping into themThat is plainly not true. You can solo even a fucking Warden provided you know what the fuck you are doing and are prepared for that. Worse yet, robots are sufficiently challenging, considering that if you are a reckless shit and play it as if against a player, you will get your shit pushed in and out through your teeth.
>>560765161>extremely advanced technology>skin-tight suitevery time
>>560768969Wait can you cast spells now in Hunt? I know you always had the Hunt Sense™ but they just give you spells now?
>>560769302I fucking love flanking. Be it Destroyer, Vandal or Assassin, i'm always looking for ways to fuck people over from surprising angles and situations. If i'm hurt in the process, even better.
>be average player>got 35 contracts completed>all my contracts have been for cyberacme outside the mandatory story ones>cyberacme rank 20this faction grind feels pretty awful as an average player and its going to restart some time later. that blows hard.
God lvl 15 and I'm only rank 8 nucaloric and those contracts barely give any xp. You're telling me I have to grind like week+ of nucaloric everyday to get self revive kit in the shop? While every other faction is put on hold?
>>560769302around levels 10-15 I tried to play Ass solo and I was okay but it was really boring, almost to the point that I want to take a break from the game.but I decided to test out Destroyer, haven't played him, and holy shit it's like something just instantly clicked with me, I felt alive playing as him and being able to actually do stuff.then I fucking realized it's because I am a retarded Titan main in Destiny and was never able to play as a Hunter that well, which is why I didn't feel comfortable as an Ass.now I'm level 40 and I only main Destroyer, I'm like a machine. I almost never hide unless I know I can't fight back yet.
>>560747589>>560747302>>560747194>>560747082This does raise an interesting point RE: Arc Raiders. While I'm sure the devs are pleased to have accidentally created the Wholesome Chungus Extraction Shooter, where rats are rare unless you are yourself a rat, it does present them with a unique problem. If everyone's helping everyone else get loot and successfully extracting most every match, it basically removes the scarcity element. When a player has a stash full up with all the resources they need, it removes a main impetus to play. You see Arc fans talk about how they've got too much stuff and there's nothing to grind for right now, and I think that's largely a symptom of the playerbase choosing to play co-op instead of competitive.
>>560769772yes having fun? we are gonna nuke your progress too in 2 months.
>>560766871what? sekiguchis 2.5k kit is a green volley. its the best green kit by far.
>>560770018Is their idea that we're supposed to choose only one maybe two factions per season so everyone has access to different gear? Seeing as some items(like mentioned self revive orshield) are really good compared to others it seems poorly thought out if it is.
>>560768907>>Extraction means only these surface level featuresyes
>>560769517Sorta. You can activate things using darksight like claymores, you can shadow jump into enemies and make them explode, and revive teammates through walls.
>>560768050im broke (ingame) and the messages are friend requests i didnt accept
this game needs some fornites skins, like Imgagine a DBZ crossover, it would be so funny t see people as Goku
>>560770337No...? I've only put in around 40-50 hours and all of my factions besides Sekikuchi are between lvl 10 and 15. I've been incredibly lazy on contracts and overall rep options either way so considering there's a few months of time each time, it's more then plenty of time to max all reps out.
>>560770454>I'm broke>414k creditsWhat?
>>560768963(YOU) are mentally retarded and/or gullible.>https://www.artstation.com/artwork/8bk0dxDo the world a favor and suck water until you drown.
>>560770465No, they should just make it like VR chat where you can upload your own model and effects, etc.
>me as a Destroyer about to die protecting my Vandal gf(male), telling her to escape and live on
>>560770583you can get like 150k in 5h of rook outpost, or at least you could, last few days feels like they nerfed dire marsh and outpost loot
>>560765452based
Am I being a retard here? Can't do anything with these crates, the contract says I need Algae Ponds basement but this is under AI Uplink. What's happening?
>>560768713What? Maybe I didn't look hard enough, I could have sworn I stopped and considered why the fuck their blue kit existed when it was still just a volt SMG for 10k.And to my knowledge every other kit is the same weapon regardless of tier, no?
Why couldn't we have a normal game in the Marathon universe...With cute anime robot girls...
The locked rooms in this game are fantastic, in tarkov they were so hit or miss.
>>560770521The only problem I have with the faction system is some of the values are different at the same level with certain ones and while I haven’t looked at every single thing to see if it mathematically works out the same given some factions have more and longer quest chains than others, there were a few situations I was sitting on my hands with the reroll counter to reset because I was walled from the last hurdle. That aside it’s piss ez to get square away on most of the “mandatory” stuff anyhow . Even the added full min you’d get on being down with the one high SekGen shit is whatever because of how blood thirsty and fast the ttks are
>>560770918bungie hates money
>>560771043didnt they buff marked rooms before 1.0? i havnt played in ages. they were stacked for a while.
>>560770872that's for a different quest, where you have to destroy those crates with chem nades.
>>560768907>moving the goalpostsindian people doing indian shit
>>560769913I swear I’m not one of those MLG reject muh positioning serious business idiots but Destroyer and Vandal do kinda play extra nice for when you wanna be a lot more technical in your game play . The biggest lie was saying how they’re bad picks for a third when you can absolutely scam so hard with certain things.
>>560767976lmfao yeah I remeber. "we have a gazzilion discord members the game can't fail"
homework is out, PR videos by Bungie.please have it completed before this weekend.
Hey new player here, just bought the game, any tips for a newbie to both the game and extraction shooters in general?
>>560770912Oh, I meant, none of the other players we killed had a backpack.
>>560771560ask for a refund
>>560771550surely this is not a real thing bungie put out as a promo
>>560771550>PR videoswow what an interesting typo, meant to say *Provided
>>560771603nvm I'm a retard.>>560770912was meant for >>560770323
>>560771560You learn by failure most of the time. Another thing to note is also that map knowledge and learning how to navigate on the map (both in and out of combat) are vital. Don't fuss your first 50 hours on being stingy with good loot. If you've got friends jumping in or can find a stable crew of Runners, you can have someone show you the ropes or learn together. Solo can be brutal to start with, but if you're confident you can take the added difficulty, go nuts.
>>560771560play solo, it's the best way to experience extraction shooters, except the solo queue in this game fucking suck and the end game is locked for solo players so just get your money back and buy arc if you want a more casual experience, or Hunt showdown if you want good, tactical pvp fights. Or if you want wait for hunger to release.
>>560770872so why are they highlighted for me
So what I'm noticing about the Thief tech is the D2 players who stuck to D2 because they relied on it's imbalance to LARP at being good at a PvP game want it to stay because it creates imbalance and lets them LARP at being good, whereas the high ELO competitive shooter players and the pro players alike all want it gone because it's unbalanced and fucks over the pacing of the game. Don't let marathon die because D2 players think they know what balance means, get the slide cancel shit out of the game it completely fucks the pacing of the game
>>560771664please understand, Bungie is trying to teach us.failure to complete this assignment WILL result in losing ranks...
>>560771943>>560771229meant for
>>560768343>semanticsUh the entire point you were trying to make hinges on it being a trend or not, it's not semantics lol
>>560772058amazing how every time this company does anything it is bafflingly stupid
>>560772194you're tryin to argue whats a trend when its a trend because arc raiders has done well in the past year and we happen to get an extraction shooter shit out around the same time.you addressed nothing else so i accept your concession
>>560772007It's always the similar kind of autism when it comes to any tech. People think going fast and having inherent mobility advantages without drawbacks (even if it is hard to perform) is something that needs to be preserved, no matter how bad it fucks things over. It's already well enough that two classes exist to have strong vertical options, but having one zipping around the map at lighting speeds too? Nothing seems to be enough for some faggots.
>>560770912green volley but no optic (1.2k grey so worth like 2k), green shield (750), meds (2.2k), green cores (700), v11 as backup.
>>560772007Why do you keep posting stuff from twitter here as if it's your own spontaneous thoughts?
>>560772058At least post the link so we can skip people calling you a bullshitter.https://twitter.com/MarathonTheGame/status/2034360708637540541And yes, that is indeed the official Marathon twitter.
>>560771943because a teammate or someone else on the server has the quest.
>>560772482if you got nothing to say dont even bother replyin nigga
wtf is taking PvPtards so long to kill all these easy PvE bots?
>>560772058yet they wont tell us how regular matchmaking goes.
>>560772568lmao you thought you were slick like nobody here is seeing posts from marathon accounts.
>>560749931
>>560772717the games dying and you're laughing
>>560772671you can literally watch people who want to play the game as anything other than a battle royale leaving in real time, the rate is going to continue to decrease unless bungie starts fudging the data
>>560772731>Management is retardedBoy, oh boy. Are you going to amazed when you touch water.
>>560772671>be destiny2 pvp sweat>killin robots makes you a target>dont kill robots still even for the event>kill everyone tryin to do pvepoetic. same people killin their game by scaring everyone away
>>560772892management spent a lot of money and now is not happy with the results, management decides if this game is going to get f2p slop to recoup costs next season
>reinstall>team-mate disconnects the instant the first fight starts
What did he mean by this?
>>560747305You would have to be lunatic to play it without a premade in a discord vc though, that's the key difference. More often than not you'll probably get immediately betrayed the moment he loads in faster than you.
>>560773196>going to get f2plike it was going to be originally
so uh, how is duos?
>>560773368Cool slop. Did you generate it yourself?
what is with this guy constantly melting down in these threads? last thread he had a schizo breakdown over bad matchmaking times, then people quitting the game, now this shit.
>>560773528Not that much better compared to trios.
>Marathon didn't even place number 1 for the week on steamEven Veilguard placed number one wtfactually dead and dying game.
Did they up the player count for Dire Marsh? Seems an absolute shitfest now
>>560773738they need to reduce the spawns by like 1-2 for squads and like 5 in solos for most mapsits ridiculous
>>560773724No it didn't.
>>560773823>"There's way too much PvP on the maps.>"There's way too little PvP on the maps."Didn't they already adjust the spawn rates twice? Far as i understand the initial assessment were that Perimeter and Dire Marsh felt empty and now they're apparently suddenly all too full. I think the sweet spot is just fine currently, you run into encounters in places that are more likely to see traffic, but you can still take routes that'll give you ways to avoid the worst congestion.
>>560753406oh my god the playerbase isn't large enough to support ranked being open 24/7this game is actually doomed
Everyone trying to kill the robots makes them easy to kill
Just go in with Freekits (or the 2.5k kits if you're not a poorfag) and kill bots for the unlock event who cares nigga you guys are such gaping vaginas I think I truly understand now the oldheads who used to dog on people complaining about getting ganked in PvP servers in WoW back in the day.
>>560774095they listened to streamers. they were only supposed to fix spawns for the BEGINNER map.streamers got bored not having any action.
>>560774408no thanks i dont care about raidslop
>>560772058WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A NAME AND DATE FIELD LMAO DID THEY THINK IT WOULD BE CLEVER, WHY NOT JUST GIVE THE FORMULAS ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>560774127>>560774495This, if the raid is only to the benefit of streamers then the playerbase is better served delaying it for as long as possible by killing the slaves that are killing bots for hours to unlock a mode they will never succeed at or in a majority of cases even have access to.
>>560752521*slorp slorp slorp slorp* sorry, you were saying something?
>>560774628>>560774495Vaginas
>>560767567Solo is fine, go in with a free kit and bum rush the next spawn. If not trio fills is fine
>>560771560Refund now.The game will become shit after a while.
>>560774834Said the guy wasting hours of his life shooting robots to unlock a mode that he won't play and especially won't win.
>>560775272I'm playing the game and you're complaining like a woman who can't get her way.
>>560775272Why the fuck is a psychic like you wasting their time on a Naplonese piss-tasting board instead of using your powers of fortune-telling to tell when your father's going to rape you so you can hide?
2.5k kits>CyAc gives you a fucking grey Overrun>Nucal doesn't give you a backpack>Traxus doesn't give you a shield>Mida doesn't give you a shield>Arachne doesn't give you a backpack and it need to rely on LMG/sidearm only>Sekiguchi doesn't give you a backpack but at least your guns are decentSuffering kits
Apparently consciousness actually enters the shell and requires a short amount of time to get sent back in safely. What would be the minimal amount of force needed to destroy the shell in a way that doesn't give enough time for the transfer and why aren't factions that have to deal with runners equiping their forces with weapons that are designed to deliver such force, or specially desined weapons that stop consciousness transfer?
>>560774628You get keys like fucking candy, what are you even talking about? You can play 100% PvE if you want to hit Cryo. Wardens, Lockdown and plenty of other sources (even loot rooms) occasionally give you a key, so it's not like the game forces you to ever go much beyond Perimeter and getting some ghetto 5k loadout to get in there. How is this unachievable for the vast majority of the playerbase?
just fucking log in and kill some robots you fucking solo chuds are so entitled the map has intricate mechanics that wouldnt be possible solo like having three people press a button at the same time or having three people stand on pressure plates THE GAME WAS ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO ONLY BE FOR TRIOS JUST LOG IN ALREADY
ngl i dont mind the design or anything but with these blocky guns they shot themselves in the foot in terms of customization.i dont think this game will ever make nearly as much from cosmetics in its lifetime as apex legends did in just a few seasons. not that thats bad or anything, apex is super predatory and expensive as fuck.
I actually really like all the volt weapons I think they're pretty underrated even if they do get outclassed by stuff like the Bully in close range.
Shan't be playing the streamerslop clipfarm mode. Sorry :)
>>560775631>minimal amount of force needed to destroy the shell in a way that doesn't give enough time for the transferThe Runner can eject their shell on-command if needed.>specially desined weapons that stop consciousness transferGot me there. Probably quantum shit that means stopping the proccess = death = instant transfer.Most likely there is one hyper-specific way to fuck with Runners that one Corp has. But we won't see it deployed on Tau Ceti 4
>>560775909I think V66 is pretty heavily slept on, same goes for the energy shotgun and sniper.
>>560775631the game says that there's a time-delayed external buffer that gets restored instead if something prevents a clean ejection from the shell
>right click a guy who sent me a friend request to try and delete it>it sends them a crew inviteWHO THE FUCK DESIGNED THIS NOW I HAVE TO QUIT THE GAME AND RELAUNCH IT LIKE A FUCKING SPERG
>>560775631I mean anything that will just instantly vaporize shells would probably damage the colony they are trying to salvage for one. It also goes beyond the immediate threat and goal of the operation; if a gun neutralizes the threat why would you move up to murder and escalate conflict with other corps that are just as strong as you?More fundamentally though, why do you assume there is some sort of weapon that will do that, and is anywhere near as good at just eliminating the shell? Considering getting the head blown off with a shotgun isn't fast enough to stop consciousness transfer, you'd probably need something pretty absurd to do it.
>>560775631Read your Codex>https://tauceti.gg/codex/career/feats-of-mastery/this-is-marathon
raep bungie
uh oh, another mindbroken schizo melty, and so soon after the one last night over matchmaking times!
>>560776640Bassd!
>>560776119>>560775909there is something the dps charts dont tell us if they really allegedly do more damage to shields than flesh (not sure where this rumour came from)
>>560776640raep you
Haven't launched the game at all today
>>560776712I'm starting to get the impression the only schizo here is you bwo
>>560775631the tentacle rape that UESC bots do supposedly fucks up your consciousness directly.
>>560776631>DO SHELLS DIE: No. Although SHELLS provide a "natural living" experience for RUNNERS who inhabit their neural housing, they are themselves non-sentient biocybernetic machinery incapable of high-motor function without a human mind to drive their systems.Can't wait for the S'phit to collect the fucking dozens of dead Shells littering Cryo and send them back down to Marathon as Simulacrums.
>>560776859i closed the game when they announced the trios thing and havent opened it since
>>560776908Lireral RAPE what the FUCK was Bungie thinking
RUNNIE ARE YOU OKARE YOU OKARE YOU OK RUNNIE
>>560777005>Compilers send puppet eldritch horrors your way that mimic players before striking.I'd honestly be shitting bricks at every encounter at a point like that.
>>560776908But I don't want robobrainsex
>>560777005 pfhor runners WILL be a thing
>>560777005there's that one scene of the mannequin looking shells where one eventually looks at you, kinda crazy to think you could be in a room like that and turns out some are actually people trapped in there.
>>560776751shields are really fuckin weak that you lose dps tryin to play around them anyway
I tried the traxus 44 contract for 3 hours solo.Allways on freekit.Die all the time the boss.Say fuck it in bring in shit from the vault.Green heals,shieldrep and a shield.Get fucked by 2 playersFuck this game, i hope i will get a refund when it goes EoS.
>>560772058The fucking comtempt this company has for the people who play their game, christ alive.
>>560777217The last thing you hear before the UESC rapebots fuck your mind into liquidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRA0W1kECgUnfortunately, due to one specific artist that has become my fetish.>>560777182Make sure to tell Bungie devs to have them travel in trios for increased paranoia.
>>560777217You can't just decrypt her like that bwo
>>560777456something tells me the matchmaking is completely tuned for max engagements that streamers want and the typical player doesn't
>>560777517>>560777517Umm but like they tie in their hate of the consumer with codex lore about how tau ceti hates humans specifically and makes their lives hell! Its like I'm playing an irl video game!
>>560777620most typical players I've seen are retarded and run into gunshots to get murdered
>>560771862Hey same anon here, any way to "learn the maps" other than just running them over and over again? I've played a few matches and won a couple of engagements but i feel like i dont really know where to go other than what my missions tell me to do
>>560777892Take some of the contracts and explore the locations they lead you to. They usually become quite important for acquiring materials for both your faction upgrades and on learning how certain things work (like DCONs for certain contracts and cache drones, etc...) Other then that, just play matches. You'll get a hang of which kind of places you'll be getting into and what kind of places can also be more safe to traverse through by simply exploring the maps.
>exfil one out of 10 runsYeah I'm thinking i'm gonna cheat after the first banwave hits.
another run lost thanks to getting paired with a gamer girl
I like that I can watch the other players in the match now :)
>>560778726yeah well the matchmaking doesn't work at all even with vibes
>>560759904Actually crazy tarkov is that low, good riddance. I'm glad I escaped from tarkov.
show marathon key collection
>>560778882Tarkov players are stuck on Epic and don't feel like paying twice, if anything this is the Steam remainder.
>load in with freekit on perimeter>against purple and blue shieldsthe game is so dead
>>560759904Escape from Duckov LMAO
>>560779206When is Duckov having it's Marathon crossover event? >Escape will make me Quack
>>560767032Splatoon 3 does its splatfests on the weekends... once every 3-5 months.
>>560779206You mean the meme game that people played en-mass at release and never returned except for the ~7-10k that are playing almost half-a-year post-release?Marathon needs to be out longer before we can tell whether it's going to be a duckov or notov.
>>560767643Destiny has ALWAYS had PvP, there's a reason why so many people compare Trials' gameplay to Marathon, since the game is a 1:1 port of most mechanics and animations, the game is a constant elimination sweatfest on a larger map, and the main reason everyone calls it a battle royale.
People one twitter are already having semantical arguments regarding the "tech" of Thief's drone grapple exploit. >Guys it's okay that she can do this because the player has all their heat upgrades maxed out normal players wouldn't be able to do this!A stunning argument from the cripplingly retarded.
>>560779639It still made more money than Marathon despite being a shitty amateurish joke game which I find extremely fun. Heard they're adding a coop mode soon.
a single claymore just wiped my entire team
I played for 4 hours straight today.Exfil'd only once (didnt encounter any runner)Shit game
>>560779832they discovered every shell can slide cancel so its really just moot at this point
>>560779880https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn28vz5Knbw
>>560779880Please say that it was a player placed one, Anon...
>>560779871>made more money than MarathonI'll assume you learned it from a dream, anon.>coop mode soonFriends always make things better. Wish the best for the devs and hope they earn enough to continue doing what they love.
This is literally pve niggers when they admit they can't handle pvp
>>560779987How can recon and sin slide cancel?
we seriously need fucking cryo i have been stacking the fuck out of my vault and its so stacked that i almost feel zero drive to continue stacking, please just release it ffs!!!!!!!!!!!
It's hard to explain why but I feel Marathon needs the mantle-sliding from Deadlock. With how much mantling you can do it'd really help encourage more vertical movement and thus more interesting fights.
>>560780135idk video on twitter shows how
>>560780149Not until the stream jannies kill enough bots so that their streamer daddies can clipfarm.
>>560780149go kill robots cuckie
>>560780013It literally did, according to the devs announcing that they sold more than 2 million copies, and using Steam DBs least optimistic estimate (for duckov) against Marathon's most optimistic estimate of ownership times the price.
What are my options as someone who legitimately sucks at the game?I want to like it but there's zero matchmaking except based on the level, now i am lvl34 after 70 hours played and the only people i face are already better than me skill and gear wise, i cant do anything.
>>560772320A single game doesn't make a trend regardless of success, there's nothing else to address you're simply using the word wrong
>>560780482Don't fight them, ambush them. If you're engaging them in a way that lets them react to you you're not playing properly.
>>560779987The universal method is NOWHERE near as good as the thief grapple one. It does mean Destroyer's boost will probably need a buff if it stays though.Also honestly it's not really a terrible interesting form of movement tech. It's very little just a button combo. More movement is pretty much just good, but the actual tech isn't very interesting.
>>560780554I rarely get the ambush on someone, few times i did it didnt matter at all they simply turned around and killed me, even when i landed all my shots.
>>560780482The japs/koreans seemed to crack the code that higher gear gun mods increase your match-making level so I just go in with a gray gun and pick up any green mods or whatever for my gun and use them until extract that I then sell off. I keep at least one gun to avoid enchanting a gun and if its viable like increasing gun range but I usually ignore the ads or the ones affecting patterns since its not viable to me if its true gear mods increase mm elo. I just hit lvl 25 yesterday and usually use the LMG (its 500 creds) and procure on site any other gun I might want, like a repeater or bully.
>>560773368LOL.PvE or fuck off.
>>560780759Are you engaging within your damage range? Like if you're trying to plink people with the bully that won't work for example. As for the volt weapons don't bother using them within 20m they fire way too slowly.
>>560780482refund>70 hoursoh nvm you're already raped
>>560780769I went with a free kit for 6 games and played extremely ratty, i faced blue/purple shields everytime man.
>>560780292>>560780135This is what I've found so far.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KboSiRpIv8>>560780362Taking lowest of the three Owner Estimations>Duckov$17.99 * 2.89M = 51,991,100>Marathon$39.99 * 781.9k = 31,268,181So they did. I could move the posts by saying we should divide by how long they've been out, but that would be dishonest.I do wonder why PlayTracker and VG Insights switched their highest/lowest estimation from Duckov to Marathon. Surely their methodologies shouldn't have changed and they should just give different ranges?
Gonna try to at least get into Gold III this weekend, that's like the median skill level for most ranked players.
>>560780971Yep.Today's free kit is the volt smg, i had an ambush on another freekit but sadly we killed eachother, atleast dude used the mic to say "dont leave yet!" he limped to my claymore to give me arachne xp
>>560781130Knife is your friend. I've killed so many green and blue shields by rushing them round a corner with the knife, purple probably needs a behind ambush or WSTR though.
>>560781294Yeah the Volt SMG is actually dogshit unfortunately. >ROF as slow as the Volt AR>about half the range so useless in CQC>overheats faster I think
>>560780498shooters will always be trendy. its why its not even a real extraction shooter at the end of the day.
>>560781264I'd like to get the Destroyer skin so I'm definitely giving ranked a shot, will probably end up in silver or bronze honestly.
>>560781594Its a br with an extract mechanic which is apparently impossible for reddit brains to comprehend
>>560781347This works very well to eliminate the last player on a team or someone you know is isolated. Rushing knife with someone covering them is just trading though.
>>560781821A BR with an extract mechanic is a fucking extraction shooter you mong.
>Marathon goes F2P>Cheaters get to be the final nail in its coffin.Please let it happen. It be so fucking funny.
>>560782103Not even Kernel-level access can stop the cheaters.
>take green shield in every run>lose every fight>huh>go do rook runs>get a few thousand credits>get a blue shield>steamroll through two squads>exfilyou gotta take your good stuff if you want good stuff i guess, fun game
If I have a ping duration of 35 does that mean the ping lasts 35 seconds or how does it work? Bigger = Longer but how much longer?
>>560782281it means your ping is more than 34
>always wonder why I can't get enough unstable diodes >blame it on dying a lot and losing them during run >keep buying those cheap 3 iranian pesos shields>thank god for these what would I do without them>glimps from the edge of my eye the diode symbol>realize it costs diodes to makeABSOLUTE NIGGER
>>560782281it means your actions take 35 milliseconds to register with the server.
>>560782154Maybe they should've picked something other than battleye lol
>>560782420>>560782345hrmmmm
>>560782347>the shopkeeper when they see you waltzing through the door with all your diodes spilling from your pockets
>>560782281ignore these retards35 ping means your ping will last about 35 more than if it were 0
>>560782281Your ping is pretty much always your latency in ms. It is the delay between you and the server, but there's various anti-lag techniques to minimize that as long as it stays small and more importantly predictable (low jitter). Marathon apparently has some secret sauce in this regard but we don't know what and they cancelled the GDQ talk on it.
im noticing thief players are often the biggest retards
>>560782631So if the base ping duration is 5 seconds it would increase it by 35% to 6.75 seconds?
This songs so sickkkkkhttps://youtu.be/FducYciRxx8?si=s3KrYaQqofZnHrUp
>>560782751It scales exponentially so your ping will stay on screen for 60 seconds. If you have a ping of 100 it'll actually scan for nearby enemies within a few meters, like a weaker TAD scan. It's got a pretty long cooldown though.
>>560782868I really wish they explained this in game properly.
>>560782673They act like that because they're constantly distracted by the thought of being raped.
>>560782868As a side note, it also works with that one Recon green core that increases TAD range. It's quite wild to get like a 15m proxy grenade ping.
>>560782954It's a really cool feature, I've been using it a lot to tag players behind corners.
>>560782642
De de doo ~https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAzKYFvyJY&si=R_fOhGnpzOIhTsSR
>>560782673True
>>560783290I genuinely thought you found some way to display your latency and were some clueless retard asking about networking
>>560782459Like?
How is Duos going? I have no friends that play this so I'm not doing it.
Where can i find good cheats for the game?
>>560783312bro you missed...
>>560783559EAC is better easily. Battleye hasn't progressed in years.
>>560783804>The digi-splurt of a shield cracking at the endHow is that a miss?
>>560783804You can see the shield pop green, I don't know why there's no hit marker.
Bungie really got a t rating cause the blood is blue lol
ngl ranked in an extraction shooter sounds kind of retarded
>>560784032Don't forgot Cryo will also exist that has a minimum Gear Score rating and basicly mandates trios. I'm sure ~5000 people will love this game in a couple months once everyone else leaves drowning in their sweat.
>>560784032It is
>>560783925and EAC works on Steamdeck. Which Bungie must be pants-on-head retarded not to have support for right out of the gate.And why haven't they got parity for Linux?
>>560783787the faggot store
>>560784304>the game will die in three days>the game will die in a week>the game will die in a month <-- you are here>the game will die in two months>the game will die in six months
>>560784538See you in 4 months.
There's nothing wrong with Gear Ante.
down to run cry archive if you are
>>560784693Cryo Archives style, where it's a minimum limit? Sure.The retarded ranked ante system?No, fuck that.
>go to station do to my contract>ear almost blasted out from hardstyle techno yodelling on proximity chatHoly shit
This ranked mode is doa ive spent enough time in apex to know its gonna be a shitshow
>>560783787Either make your own or contact someone who's had experience with Destiny 2. Both use BattlEye and they're using the same engine. BattlEye's processes are pretty well documented at this point, its maybe the easiest most-used kernel anti-cheat to bypass because people have been hacking away at it for 6+ years now. You'll need a kernel driver though of course. Also best for some kind of HWID spoofer if you want to be sure.>>560784387Because it would force them to actually do some work to make the game supported on Linux. Proton's okay for multiplayer titles if you can rely less on systems you'd encounter in heavy live-service video games but Marathon is built on the back of the Tiger Engine's updates that were going to be Destiny 3 but never were and Destiny was at that point built around the live service.Its laziness. I'm not really sure the game would be playable or enjoyable on steam deck anyway, but maybe the game would've found some audience on Linux. But again, this is Bungie and I don't think they'd ever do that.Bungie knows how bad BattlEye is because trials was full of cheaters for literal years who did stupid shit and when the Marathon team ended up switching to develop Marathon the game nose-dived in enforcing bans. Even the most obvious cheaters who could fly around the map with essential no clip and unlimited ammo with video proof never got banned.They simply don't care or they think that they'll be on hand to manually review every case.
>>560784780This one?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCaV9yiYh1Q
>>560781452it has one of the fastest bodyshot ttks. its the best freekit gun by far. you can actually have comeups against blue or purple shields cuz you got enough dps and bullets unlike the other guns.>>560784828it just gives the nolifer sweats a reason to keep playing. its unfortunately a necessity cuz people are already getting bored due to lack of cryo archive / other difficult maps
>>560784032it's almost like bungie is completely out of touch with the fanbase and this game will be dead in a few months. i say this as someone who genuinely enjoys the game. it is mind boggling to me that nobody in the studio thought of including some zero stakes 16 player deathmatch bullshit. every feature they reveal is even more niche than the last. they had a competition last weekend that normal humans never even had a chance to be involved in.
>if you play solo in ranked it literally just puts you up against triosThis game is unironically going to die, I was one of its biggest defenders but it's going to happen.
>>560784538It will still exist for quite awhile but maybe 10-20k putzing around in multiple separate queues is far from a success. It's no Concord flop but Bungie better be cooking something amazing behind the scenes for another game if they wanna stick around after the layoffs that will be happening.
>>560784929you remember that video of a cheater unbanning himself? was it real?
>>560781452>range is short so it's useless in CQC??Also it overheats faster but cooling off after overheat is way faster than reloading which is what the Volt AR would have to do instead. Volt AR works at more useful ranges for the tracking bullets, though.
>>560784993>>560785145I dunno, I wasn't impressed by it during the server slam so I never tried it again. Maybe I'm wrong.
>>560784965I think it was this:https://youtu.be/xlacPkRfVhg?si=hBdSTJ--SG_6mzGD
>>560785057More reasonable take than the masturbators glued to steamcharts jerking each other off about how their collective orgone energy is killing Marathon. It hasn't got enough low-denominator attractors to keep pulling in players. All its got is the strength of its gameplay.
>>560785250German Rooks...
>>560785250Thanks. Have this in return https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYrmLYahbgo
>>560785051This seems fun though on paper.You are basically Rook but with gear.Now how and where exactly are they going to spawn you though.
>recon's shell lore is early models had a chance to literally scramble your mind whenever they used the data collecting systems>runners literally just don't care and yolo
>>560785094If you're talking about the guy who bungie said that they kept banned? I don't know. There are cases where cheaters have unbanned themselves in other games (especially when they rely on community-made anti-cheat or server administrator cluster bans) to my knowledge and the cases I've seen prior, if a cheater had the ability to unban themselves they'd honestly do much more than that. Highly unlikely. Destiny 2 cheaters in my experience are the types to spite Bungie a lot. They'd fuck them harder than just unban themselves.
>>560784993>cuz people are already getting boredMaybe they should have made an engaging and dynamic product then. You're telling me theres a map with a center area called the anomaly and giant mountains made of energy but theres literally nothing going on there? No weakened gravity? No pois from different planets/areas on the marathon warping into existence? No head popping when yoj walk through it? Like why fucking have it then so you can do a basic bitch fetch quest for an anomaly shard halfway through the match?
how do you cope with being unfathombly shit at this game
>>560786046Wait for good cheats to drop.
>>560785220you should. its the best freekit gun like I said and it has the highest dps for bodyhits of any gun, excluding snipers and shotguns obviously.it kills a purple in 1.3 secs, for reference the bully takes 1.44.>>560785720yeah well i agree the game needed more maps and content at release.
>>560784763hot damn you're fuckin good at this shit aren't ya
>>560786046You put in more hours until you eat your competition. That's all there is to it.
>>560786046Get better. Abandon conscious thought and develop your vibes. Also get a prostate vibe and use it as intended while playing, I swear to god, bro, it just works.
>>560786046Get HOOKED on having a BLAST!
>>560786046Practice. Do rook runs for a vault of at least green gear and then run it all.
>>560784538i made the original post you're copy and pasting but im a doomer now because of cryo archive being trios only, please stop reusing my post in non-doomer contexts. thank you.
>>560786046Unironically quit.There's no SBMM and the sweats (target audience for this game) dont want it.
>>560786046
>>560785424>this seems fun on paperit's not because we literally did this before in the open playtest a year ago. it was so universally shit upon that Bungie panicked and added solo queue+rook. rook is only fun because its no risk, nobody is going to queue in solo with a minimum gear score just to get farmed by trios.
Bungie doesn't play video games
>Your free kit fill mates run around shooting UESC and setting off claymoresoh boy.
>>560786046I swear I start to believe the 30fps destiny bug is in this game as well>shoot guy 200 times>survives>I die in 0.1s
>40 thousand players at peak hoursuh, sisters??? did we lose ANOTHER 10k players in the span of a day?
>>560786905i dont blame ppl for not playing rn, fuckers are taking way too long to release cryo, im just stockpiling marathon keys and good gear, i dont want to risk my vault until cryo is out
>>560786905fucking solo chuds would rather kill the game than nut up and join the cord
>>560786905come back in 4 hours when its actually peaking (its an NA game)
>no skill based matchmaking>lose the bottom 5% of your players every dayWho could have predicted this?!
>finishing the night with a Rook run where I didn't encounter a single person but looted 5 full bags of good shitAlso what's going on in this picture?
>>560787183they turned dad into a battleroid
>>560786905Time now is ~2300 UTCSTEAMCHART: 44,705This time yesterdaySTEAMCHART: 49,419Diff.: 4714You could be truthful and still get your point across. You need to reconsider who you talk to and why their presence encourages you to think like this.
>>560787136it's literally 6 PM on the east coast, it's genuinely fucking over dude
>no SBMM>cryo requires you to LFG to gain access>3 maps for most of the playerbase>trios suck>solos are just not balanced at all they didn't even try>lose 5-10k of the playerbase per daywaow who could have seen this
>>560786905
>>560787272now compare that difference to the last few days' to see how the cry archive announcement affected the decline in players. it's pretty grim
RELEASE FUCKING CRYO NOWI AM GETTING BOREDRELEASE FUCKING CRYO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>560786905The game is losing roughly a thousand or two players everyday since release. Don't worry bro the map only a small fraction can even play and a ranked mode for a fucking extraction shooter will totally bring more players in!
>>560787276the game literally peaks at 4am my time so 10pm your time every-single-fucking-day retard
>>560786046I take ashwagandha and geniunely stop giving a fuck
at the current rate of attrition the game will be peaking at just over 10k players when cryo archive unlocks, assuming that takes 9 days which i think is the current projection. how many of those players will drop the game when they realize it wants them to go join a discord and do lfg shit? I'm not happy about what bungie is doing but at some point you have to acknowledge reality even if they won't.
>all this stashed and ready for cryo>still no cryowhat am i supposed to do now
Crimson dessert is going to take all my time away sorry bros
do you actually have to do LFG for cryo there is no fucking way
>>560787183Adults are dead, and the kids are being raised by 'something'. Hope they died quick. >>560787276Second peak in 3-4 hrs.>>560787529You should have compared it to last weeks since it would be 55,654 vs 44,705. Showing that irrespective of cryo, the game has bled 11k players over a week and made a doompost of only a month left before EOS.You are so deepfried by watching steemcharts hourly that you have lost critical thought. Please go do a sudoku before you lose any more braincells.
>>560788165theoretically it will have crew fill but if you're playing with randoms your 5k loadout will just be getting farmed by premades
>>560788228im fucking rich idc, i only play solo and have no mic and no voice comms on i am ready to get raped but will clear it eventually
>>560788193>you should have compared it in a way that obfuscates the phenomenon you described in which case you would still have been right but less dramatically so, kill yourselfi have no idea what im supposed to be taking away from this post
>made barely 4% progress since yesterdayjesus fucking christ this is such shit just give us the map
why is the CE sidearm so shit? like actually worse than going for a knife? its so fucking shit I hate spawning with it
>Spawn across the map>Run across the map>Run across the map>Kill a runner, but you're the last one left on the map
>>560788631hehehe
>>560788495it's going to be really funny seeing the rate decrease as the game bleeds players. doomers are feasting
>>560786046play solo and be a faggot like most of the people in this thread
>>560788631at least it's not (((extract))) too
Marathon is unironically the best extraction shooter in the market.If what you're looking for is the extraction shooter experience.If you want fun stories with strangers then yes, ARC Raiders takes it.Otherwise Marathon does everything better than EVERYTHING else.
>>560788391That >>560787272 is sufficient to show that Cryo Hype hasn't bumped numbers up from yesterdayt and you shouldn't have pulled 10k out of your ass. You are correct that player numbers are declining day by day, but I cannot understand why you feel the need to lie when the truth on its own would support you.
>>560789059arc is good if you like running around picking up random bits of junk that serves no purpose and has zero value because there's no danger
>>560789103oh you thought i was the same person fair enough
>>560789059Tarkov is better than Marathon in basically every single way. Marathon doesn't even play like an extraction shooter, it's a battle royale with light looting elements.
>>560789170No worries. It's inevitable that this would happen. Sorry I let myself get so heated over this. I just can't understand why people need to inflate players lost per day when the evidence itself is there to support their accusations. No manipulation needed.
>60 hours in>just clutched 1v3 for the first timeit's fun... it's really fun...
>>560788027>join a discord and do lfg shitBlunder of the fucking century
>>560789528why did they use deimos in the lore if they wanted the marathon to be made out of a perfectly round moon? they could have used like any other moon
>>560788631>Have to kill a runner while this shit is activestraight up impossible for shitters like mehow do i cope?
>>560789913Do you think Trangie looked up the shape of Demios?
damn turns out um actually its not a skill issue as bungies #3 cocksucker and they were cheaters. i love marathon though
>>560789968i mean if i wanted to portray a moon i would probably at least google what it looked like
>no SBMMdead game
It's fucking impossible to do contracts in trios. Never get a team with the same ones, 3 people who need to go to 3 different places is not going to work.I can get so much more done solo.
>>560790384Wait till Traxus 4/4Cant decide if its more shitty in solo or fill.
>>560790384I've done most of them solo but there's some tough ones I haven't been able to work through yet
>decide fuck it and tag with a freekit in diremarsh>teammates are also 2 freekits>we go up against a squad with a purple and a blue shieldWhat's the point of this shit?
Extraction shooters really are a confusing genre to me
>Load into Outpost as Rook >Get shot at by a Rook on top of ladder>Put down claymore at base of ladder>Another Rook shoots at me from behind >Kill him>Hear explosion>Other Rook jumped down ladder and died on claymore>Already full inventory >Find dead Rook on way to Extract>Get to Extract and as I'm about to teleport away ANOTHER Rook jumps in with meI don't know how many Rooks spawn on Outpost, but I feel I must have found every single one that round
>>560790815It's for low self esteem niggers who cant handle competitiveness.The same kind of "people" that camp STV at lvl 60.
>>560790913I felt like it was 1 for every 3 players no longer in the match, but I saw a clip with a shit ton of rooks ganged together, so they may just be able to fill up any empty slots
The pfhor are on the 'thon
>>560790815what this nigga said>>560791072extraction shooters immerse yourself a little into it but this game fails to do that because its too fuckin arcady and bungie fans/destiny 2 defenders love to eat this lopsided bullshit up
>>560790913Outpost might have the most rooks Soley because only 4 trio teams spawn and once you kill the other two that's 12 rooks you have to fight afterwards and outpost is such a condensed map
>>560791441The audio change instantly turning it into apex legends was the curtain pulling back on the entire operation
ya lyooblue egrat Marathon. Marathon ocheen klasni e kruta
do not waste you rcredits on this it is complete fucking ass
>>560791463Every fucking time on Outpost I start in Airfield and run into another Rook at Flight Control
>>560791537>2.5k>no shieldlol
>>560791537>hardlineyeah we didnt need you for that
>>560791512yeah these updates/"fixes" show a good course where they want to go and they have the balls to release some more bullshit that involves even more poopsocking arcade nonsense like a "ranked" mode
>>560791537Hardline is a dogshit gun. Now the repeater thats totally not apex legends 3030 repeater is the shit
>find 2 lore entries in a trios raid>one teammate doesn't immediately go to menu and patiently waits for us to revive him>risk it despite my delicious lore entries>we mosie on to extract, the team that dunked us took guarded>5 mins left so we head to the next extract>was almost tempted to offer the guy who waited so long one of my 4k entries but decided against you, fuck you I like to read nigga.>get a little uesc fight from trying to unlock a security box>read the cyberacme interview>CyberAcme was no confident no rampancy would ever happen again, pre-marathon launch>"we have special safeguards against catastrophic failures of any kind. [...] an interconnected suite of AI programs will rely on upon and monitor eachother for signs of malfunction.>aren't some of these bobs applying because they literally have nowhere else to go?>uhh they just want to be part of something bigger :)>ok what about "complex agreements regarding procreation?">I can't say :)damn I love these entries, this folder has 5 more. I don't even care about the contracts I just want to find these cool shiny entries. I love how cocky the Cyber guys are not taking into account just how much of a complete wildcard Durandal was or how he was literally not going to get along with Tycho.
>>560789913>>560789968>>560790057You'd need to ask the Bungie of 1994 why they chose Deimos.
>>560789913>>560792253Because its name means terror
>>560788910Finally got it done>At quarantine>Down a thief and a triage running out into the open trying to use his prime>Kill the triage as well>Get injected>Teammate kills the third and contract completeEZGG
>>560791072I don't get it because the idea of expressing and flexing your ability to kill others largely comes down to one moment in which another player has split second decisions to take in information about you and your loadout, hell there's things they can't even get information about.It doesn't feel good for anyone dying because the window for counterplay relies on the attacking party mainly making mistakes or you disengaging. Compared to another genre, the winning party gets one kill in comparison to 10 minutes of sustained stomping on other FPS games where they could genuinely have an entire lobby know they're an absolute maniac or THAT good just because they've been killed by then over 3-5 times.I understood trials/crucible in Destiny 2 because there was an aspect of traditional PvP rules and best practices. I understand battle royales because they are a huge group of players on a map and it genuinely does feel like you're able to kill your way to an overall win, survival of the fittest scenario. I don't understand extraction shooters (or I guess, Marathon) because the crux of it is a battle royale survival of the fittest scenario mixed with a non-neutral playing ground. Either you have to make everything slower or give players some out or safety net, or you're going to have to make everything remotely similar in terms of performance in game. Marathon does neither. It's not enjoyable for people to stomp the lobbies they're in every game and stomping one player and then dying embarrassingly to the next 5 you come across doesn't feel good either.>>560791832In the original Marathon I can't remember the reasoning being that rampancy was behind why the ship had 3 AIs, but during the travel to Tau Ceti, Tycho does literally stop communication with Durandal.In a way I do wonder if that was the point, if you could simulate emotional hatred or resentment it would lead to less rampancy, but that sounds more like a research idea than a fool-proof plan.
I just spent like 2 minutes rapid clicking through all the codex entries for the rewards since there is no read all button. feel kinda bad about it but please.. dont force me to click on each thing manually.
>>560789528Reminder deimos was just hollowed out for the marathon. The pfhor blew half the moon off it
>>560792390I find it hilarious that you could not do this because there's nobody left. Does the injection give you superpowers or something?
>>560792391Tycho straight up stops talking to Durandal because he was too sarcastic, for at least a whole century. I think it gets mentioned in one of the terminal entries in the og
>>560791352GOOD. We can sell their body parts for credits.
>>560792524The problem is that we're not sure if that's still canon or not.I have the assumption that apart from obviously retconned stuff like certain corps existing when they didn't originally, mostly everything up to 2794 is still canon. After that the events are different. I still believe that we're only getting the broad flakes so to speak of the skeleton before we know what's clear.I'd hope Tycho's interactions with Durandal are still canon. Especially considering they're dedicated to AIs being a core part of the new Marathon's whole plot.
Will Leela actually get some relevance once we get onto Marathon? She was the least relevant of the AI Trio after like the first third of Marathon 1.
>>560792509no, you just inject it and nothing.
the love that I was, giving you was, never in doubt Marathon
>>560792391makin it an extraction shooter gives it another layer of defense where balance isn't realy considered and it's allowed because uh its hardcore dude!despite the fact you cant even enjoy it by immersing yourself into the world like tarkov, hunt or arc. theres no simulation going on here. it's just arcadey shooter nonsense.theres a lot under the hood that is completely broken or wrong and anyone that tells you otherwise is just a destiny 2 retard who doesn't know what balance is, or just an access shill who has nothing else to gain other than hoping they get noticed for sponsors in the future.this game is so fuckin busted people will argue that you're just stupid, bad or didn't put enough time into it to understand why it's good. nevermind the balance, because it's "supposed" to be that way. its absolutely insane. stupid fuckin genre when its presented this way. theres a reason invisibility wasn't ever a staple in them.
does anyone know if EMP'ing the wardens (or just UESC in general) does anything? can it disable their abilities and shields? trying to figure out a good loadout for killing wardens so I can farm shit off them with my duo partnerI'd test myself but I want to go to bed
Wouldn't mind if there was more simmy elements like having to manage your hunger and thirst levels. Let me eat my cyber-tuna.
>>560793185yes
>>560792901I still don't have enough L O R E to pin down the divergence, but I'm guessing that Durandal and Tycho have been pulled, physically, from the Marathon while Leela is in hiding.I hope Bungie treats the finding of still-active Marathon AI with the import it deserves.
>>560793458I think in this timeline Durandal has ascended/merged with Thoth by the time the Marathon was rediscovered. He obviously has a presence in the system even if he's not attached to Marathon directly anymore, maybe acting as some kind of observer.
>>560793330yea and having separate stamina for sprinting and aiming down sights and also limb damage and if you get headshot you die immediately
best soundtrack?
Fire the Valoran nigger nyowPivot the shells from being hero shooter picks to templates for customizable shellsBigger maps with a longer timerUse the S'pht for PvE oriented exploration and gathering missions that aren't a battle royale in disguise And that's the minimum
>>560793697I mean getting headshot is basically instant death.
>>560791832It's the same feeling you get when you say to yourself>This is going to make everything so efficientthen you try it out and no, it just makes a mess. "High off your farts with no-one to stop you" syndrome.Do love these little Proper Noun lore drops. "Marched the world back from an ecological collapse at the barrel of a gun" indeed.
>>560790913on perimeter I killed 3 rooks as a rook and died to a fourth all in the same spot
I hope we get a special model like cryo archive thats actually the pathways into darkness temple
>>560793727https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvaIgq5j2Q8for pinwheel runs
>>560789913It's no secret UESC really didn't give a shit about Mars at all. There was sprinkles about Mars opposing the whole Marathon thing in M1 because it could've been used as a CRIST or something.
Honestly apart from Durandal there's no evidence that Tycho or Leela were even on the ship at all at this point, which I would kinda expect. It leaves me with the impression that they literally are gone from the canon or something.
>>560793984I'm pretty sure there's a lore log that mentions the Ship Bound AI directly.
>>560793910There is ooportunity for some fucked shit like going deep enough into the Marathon lets you come out into a jungle biome complete with open sky. But that's up to the devs to conceptualize and implement. We can hype and spin our dreams as much as we want, but its the devs that can lead us into the pathways into darkness
>>560793330should make ads take a .5-1 second longer to prepare. that would at least make sense why the ttk is so low in the first place
>>560793984I've seen multiple codex entries referencing Tycho and Leela. I just got the second drone report entry like 10 minutes ago and that namedrops Tycho at the end.
>>560793959by "they" i meant bungie lol
>>560793330the hunger and thirst in tarkov is retarded too, you're telling me your tacticool military dude can't go 20 minutes without a meal and some water?
>>560794070I think it'd be cool just to have this seemingly earth looking temple on tau ceti 4, with lore and codex entries of the colonists being completely confused at its appearance
>>560793984Tycho still exists, but Leela is the enigma. He gets mentioned as helping the planetary AI at some point. I swear I had an entry regarding Leela in passing as well. But Bungie is so cryptic with the 'Colonial era' bullshit we can only guess how active they were post 2794.
>>560794112Some of the ADS ready animations already take a full calendar year, like the LMGs.
>>560794162I think the idea is in a high stress scenario you're burning through so many calories you need to eat your snickers bars and drink your Zywiec like a madman, but I get what you mean. The rates were a bit silly at times.
>>560793185have you tested chem grenades on them? I don't know if they work on bots, but they sure as fuck work well on us
>open game>see cryo archive in queue list>think about how they want me to join a discord to play it>get annoyed>close game
>>560794218that should be the baseline
DUOS MODE IS NOW LIVE IN MARATHONThe experimental Duos mode is officially live Here’s what you need to know: Perimeter only Premade duos only (no solo matchmaking) Duos vs Duos matchmaking Runs for ~2 weeks (subject to change) Experimental — expect some jank You can select “Perimeter – Duo” from the zone screenBungie is testing this mode based on player feedback, so this could shape the future of Duos in Marathon
>>560794172>This is obviously a meso-american temple>But radiocarbon-dating shows it was built on this planet over 5000 years ago>Weathering is consistent and we have even found the quarries they dug the stone out ofA question with no answer.
https://x.com/i/status/2034291598851510593Ranked should NOT be locked to weekends.
>thief on the team>giant juicy purple shield squad doing lockdowns>has no interest in fucking taking their shit with her droneTHEN GET OFF THIEF
>>560794576from this alone shows they dont have any sort of squad fill matchmaker and you will get met with premades no matter whatgames a shitshow
>>560794713Weekends is SOOOO DUMB. Not everyone plays on weekends. You're now forcing me if I want to partake in this part of the game. To only do ranked on weekends. What if thats the only time I do get to play? Now I can't progress the other side of the game and HAVE to play ranked.
>>560794345instead of thirst and hunger they should add a krokodil meter then and you have to scavenge for dirty syringes to shoot up that would be more immersive
i don't really care about duos broo it's like trios but one less
>>560794736>and you will get met with premadesthat's the point you retard...
>>560794713Please don’t make it this way, i got a job and my friend got a job, we would barely be able to play ranked with his schedule and mine on weekends. I really love this game but I grinded hard for ranked every free time I had. Just to now play only twice a week or none whatsoever
>>560794960i meant for trios.
>>560746802>join Perimeter trios>one teammate disconnects instantly >2nd one is selfish and runs off by himself >only time he talks is to try convincing me to go activate the exfil so he can use me as bait to take all the risk and he can run away if there's an enemy team there>I manage to exfil despite there being hostile players who knocked me. Made it with 1 pip before bleedout>stay behind to spectate "teammate">only a few minutes left>he runs across the map to the last exfil>there's a rook standing near it, doesn't see him>he ambushes the rook>despite getting the drop on him and catching him completely off-guard, he sucks so bad he somehow loses the 1v1 and gets executed Hahahaha FAGGOT! The funny thing is he probably would've survived if he just worked together as a team with me. Fucking hate people who join trios with 0 interest in actually working together. Why not just join solos if you're gonna play as one anyways? All you're doing is making it harder for yourself and screwing over 2 randoms.
>>560794959Juat wait for the seethe when people keep losing 2v1s because their handholding power fantasy with their totally not gay online buddy doesn't work against good players and cheaters
>>560794713wtf is even the point of ranked? I genuinely don't get it?
so. uh. it turns out that if you kill all the players on outpost fast enough, the game loads in as many rooks as it can.please do not ask me how i know this, my stabbing arm is so sore
>>560795096weird projection
>>560795175FUNAnd jerking off online.
>>560795175Sisyphean dopamine wheel and self worth creator for rejects and losers
>>560795175To appeal to streamerfags so they can create "watchable content"
>>560795181I noticed that as well, once saw 4 rooks teeming together trying to kill us.
>>560795181>They keeled all?>Dump de Rooks.How did it feel?
>>560795201Dont tell on yourself i 1v3 shitters regularly
>>560795175to get all the sweats out the normal queue
>>560795395*only on the weekends**they will still farm casuals for easy loot*
>>560795339At least they weren't guarding and Exfil.
>>560793330fuck off retard and go BACK to /eftg/
new thread?
all this game is is extract camping now
>>560795512Never played Tarkov I played it's retarded chinese cousin ABI.
>>560794437>Pajeets are huge pussy faggotsAnd get out of my country while you're at it.
>>560795628maybe just maybe it was retarded idea to announce to entire map that someone is extracting and also extract taking like 1 min.
>>560795682what an odd conclusion to draw from that post
>>560795223Loser
>>560795767They'll do anything for a dollar. Oh, something went wrong with your 2024 tax return, why don't you click this mysterious link.
>>560795395imagine if the normies learned they could take blue shields into matches and actually win fights>>560793782>begging for pve maps in the pvp game that's built entirely around the rush of taking loot with high riskit never ends
>>560793782Word.
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