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Rugpull Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-220287

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>560787442
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how do i play paradox? what do i need to do on her to succeed?
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Is the damage poster guy gonna post Silver's damage out of this one?
I'll wait for it.
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damn hag
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#RAPEYOSHI
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STONE FORM!
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Silver's wet, puffy cookie..................
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Sex with Venator
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>>560805883
You need a team.
.
Silver upplayers? What's our excuse now that we don't have a nanny to coddle her to victory?
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Mcginnis is saving deadlock
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>>560806006
>I am not finished yet!
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APOLOGIZE
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i know i probably should be listening to my team's voice chat but i don't think i'm going to turn off the music i'm listening to
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More nerfs to Silver
She must die instantly when enemy players just see her
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>"ha..."
>"haaa..."
>"Ha ha"
>"HAAAAA"
>"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
>*with tears in her voice* "I'm going home. I need a drink... and a hug... *sob*"
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I swear Puckett asks chatGPT to summerise the matches before he turns on his mic
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VYPER
OWES
ME
SEX
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>cant carry pubs
>cant carry nightshift
>needs 1 trillion gun items to get online
>needs 1 trillion green items to get online
>stamina mastery and phantom strike mandatory
>Needs multiple debuff counters
>cant tank
>cant anti carry
>cant farm
>cant initiate
>cant get picks
so what does meme pick jobber woman actually do? (outside of upplayer lobbies where no one buys actives)
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>>560806034
okay ill play... vyper instead
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>>560805883
echo shard her 1
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>>560806082
I have nothing to apologize for
I love my werewolf wife whether she crushes it or jobs pathetically
>>560806097
I would buy her a drink to console her
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>>560806082
>thick eyelashes
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was celeste powercrept by all the freaks who got buffed
i'm good enough at moving to bounce around people without feeding but i feel like i do piss damage even when stats show i apparently have done lots
i don't really know what's going wrong where but i feel like i should be doing more damage
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>>560806204
I'm not joking anon, you want to succeed don't play paradox in pubs. She just can't carry no matter the build, you can dominate 10/0 but if you don't have an actual carry to take over you will fall off really fast. The damage simply isn't there.
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Silvertroons truly deserve all the nerfs
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>EU is clean deadlock with russian autism
>NA is hype moments and aura, with coin flipping every fight
certainly more fun to watch, at least.
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i want to disembowl silver with my bare hands, grab about a foot of intestine and use it to hang her from the rafters
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>>560805883
build echo shard bomb and body swap into a rape cave of bombs
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How every pro talks over comms in Deadlock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKrPUVngxuQ
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>>560806351
no she's still one of the best heroes in the game and due for another set of nerfs
literally no reason to pick yamato over calico or celeste
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>>560805883
Mobility:
>Stalker
>Warp Stone
>Stamina Mastery

Support:
>counter items like Slowing Hex, Knockdown, etc.
>Healbane/Toxic Bullets
>Superior/Transcendent Cooldown

Late Game:
>Echo Shard for damage/area denial
>Crippling Headshot for damage
>Cursed Relic to shut down enemy carries
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Posts when Silver loses >> Posts when Silver wins

Not even a downplayer, it's just funnier.
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>>560806351
gotta hit her orbs, it's like lux but you can't just AA and need to aim.
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Will Floormen ever win?
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Reminder that all it took to get Silver this nerfed is just streamers complaining about her.
That Goober gun on Viscous showed devs one clip of him ganking lash with Silver heile he farmed and this was enough for Yoshi to say "yeah, I'm gonna make her the weakest character in the game when she ults"
Devs prioritize what eceleb think over actually making a game balanced or fun
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She's gonna destroy the lobby this time (with McGinnis helping her)
Get ready wolfpack
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>>560806593
please do not sexualize ivy
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>>560806421
ok i probably just suck ass elsewhere then, guess it's time to find where
what're like the common celeste mistakes people make anyways
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>>560806593
Please sexualize Ivy
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ivy mcginnis once again
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>floormen got MiguIvy
>JonJon Geist
It's fucking over
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>>560806510
She's the only hero who gets better when she loses
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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time for yet another feeding Geist with zero impact
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>>560806593
Sex with Ivy
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AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
>>560806616
Silver dethroning MC would be badass.
Either way I will be silver posting.
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>>560806591
>orbs
gun orbs or 4 orbs
>lux
i have never played dota
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Did Wraith get mega-nerfed when I wasn't looking or something?
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Let's see what this dick can do
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melee creeps fucking lost bro
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>every single team just taking silver and leaving abrams unattended
SHE'S
SO
FUCKING
STRONG
AWOOOOOO
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why do these niggas keep picking billy and yamato they never do anything
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>>560806840
I just think people don't want to play her. Kinda like Migu being completely ignored in EU.
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>ivy mcginnis shiv warden
yep it's over
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>>560806840
The teams prefered better hyper carries like cal or geist.
Or if you floormen you have a fetish for Warden for some reason.
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>>560806980
migu was also completely ignored in NA until recently
same with shiv
pros are just retarded
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>>560806962
yamato is the epic "potential man" hero of this game tbqh
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>>560806962
its billy, mo&krill and yamato versus warden shiv and silver.
billy is currently the strongest initiator in the game
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>>560806981
Warden is a huge sneak here
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i love her. Please don't nerf her
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>mina
>silver
>shiv
gg
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>>560806840
she is strong but boring
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Anyone wants to brool?
T58SB
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>>560807072
Don't worry, Jon can only play Benator
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I'M A PRO ETERNUS+ PLAYER AND I THINK SILVER SHOULD BE NERFED!
SHE SHOULD DIE INSTANTLY WHEN ENEMIES JUST LOOK AT HER, YOSHI PLS FIX!
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>>560806840
watching nightshifts you'll quickly learn that a lot of the "meta" is just that the better players prefer X, Y and Z characters and only pick those unless some other character happens to be REAAAAAALLY broken that patch
that's why shiv/billy/visc/warden/abrams/geist/mirage/paradox/yamato appear so often even when they are shit but you rarely see stuff like seven/victor/vyper/mcginnis
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>>560807072
bitch is getting nuked
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>>560807072
JonJon is trying his hardest to make her look balanced.
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>>560807176
Well I'M a pro eternus player and I think Silver should be my wife
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>Silver presents her ass after warden gets raped
She knows her place at least.
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>>560798736
As soon as I saw the cover art, I recognized it instantly. I might pick up a physical copy of Kasane at some point
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>>560807212
>geist
The fuck? She was kinda rare before recent patch no?
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>>560807350
not really? i remember seeing her a lot since at least september
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>>560807072
sorry sweety but her gun damage (requires extensive setup and still has less burst than Wraith/Haze) is problematic
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>>560807350
No, she's been perpetually picked almost every game for months.
If anything she already dodged a big set of nerfs
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>>560806593
>Hate feet
>Want to cum all over claws
what did the demiurge mean by this
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>>560807454
I rarely saw her but I geuss I didn't watch everygame. She was always just okay except for now and spirit geist cancer years ago.
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>>560807528
celeste's outfit really is hideous
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>>560807523
Claws/talons are way more sleek and pretty looking.
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>>560807543
maybe you've watched more of the shitter games where drafting is more varied, but when it gets to the important games since it's always the same few teams she rarely doesn't pop her head out
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>>560807528
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>>560807350
>The fuck? She was kinda rare before recent patch no?
she has been strong forever and teams sometimes have people who are comfortable playing her, and she is strong so she gets played.
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>>560807519
>Geist is mad OP
>I still have only ~35% WR with her
YAMEROOOOOOOOO
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>>560807732
stop building spirit
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>>560807646
It only needs the frills and tattoos gone and it would look much better.
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The main fucking character of /dlg/.
Love her or hate her.
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>>560807837
beautiful smooth skin...
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ivy + victor combo is so fun
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FACE ME AND DIE
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>>560807837
>no tats
Gold
>no fishnet
mold
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>>560807845
I lover her but she's objectively weak right now. I can pick any other character and perform significantly better effortlessly
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>>560807837
something about her face looks so off
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>Silver coming in from the back
uhhhhhHHHHHH? casters??
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Floormen's draft is so stacked I'd be genuinely surprised if they take longer than 30 minutes to win
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>play with friend
>he picks wraith
>we lose our guardian on minute 4 because he says he deals no damage to minions
>he also doesn't use m1 on doorman to poke because he says it deals no damage with his slow bullets
these are the type of players who throw your games
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mcginnis ivy once again raping
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>arcane surge and kenetic dash on Geist
Is this good? Second time I've seen them build it this nightshift.
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>>560808070
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>>560808082
It does
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Hello! I suck at Deadlock. The 0/12/5 kind of guy, but I still want to play with friends without dragging them down. I never know where to go so I follow and try to support others, I forget to use active items and I can't aim for shit. Enemy can stand in front of me and I'll empty my magazine on the wall next to them.

Is there any hope for me? What heroes would you recommend?
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>>560808274
just pick ivy and move your buddies around with your ult, learn macro over micro
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>celeste
lmao
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>>560808274
Minion master Graves or some skill nooker that doesn't need to aim.
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>>560806687
yoshi...
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>>560808274
play graves and brool with your friends
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>>560808082
They couldn't decide between cute Disney princess and caked-up slutty bimbo and did both at the same time with tragic effect.
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>>560808274
>>560808359
oh also mokrill is a good hero for shitters playing with buddies, just follow around one of your friends soaking up damage and pressing 4 to get ganks
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>>560807825
I never do though
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Why do they keep picking Geist for Jon when he sucks? Was Mirage nerfed that much?
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>>560808274
being bad at using active items means you should start playing characters that really need to use all 4 active slots, same with aiming, play a character that NEEDS to have good aim to get anything done. Not being able to do something means you should be practicing that thing.
Or just pick Graves and throw corpses at people while looking in their general direction, any character that can get value out of a point and click ability is noob friendly, like Wraith or Mohammed
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>>560808082
She looks like a cheap whore.
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these guys are supposed to be pro players? they can't aim for shit
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>Shiv, Ivy, Mina, McGinnis
>and even Warden
>and Silver too I guess
Utter outdraft
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>>560808675
They aren't EU
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>dew on celeste
>eido on yamato
this is usually the other way around
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>>560808675
it's NA, nobody can even approach Oses in that continent
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>>560807212
>Shiv
>Billy
>Visc
>Geist
>Paradox

>Shit
Are you fucking for real.

>Shiv
>One of the most nightmarish brawlers in the game if shiv is good even as he's been nerfed again and again and again and it's been said that his kit is just flat out always good
>Billy
>The best initiator/frontliner in the game with a god ult
>Visc
>Obnoxious ass disruptor where MC who NEVER plays viscous stole him from goober and made it work very well by just spamming punches
>Geist
>Has always been strong and players are now finding out that using succ build qualifies them for needing to tell any neighborhood they move into that they're a sex offender.
>Paradox
>Has always been the best play maker in the entire game.

Abrams and Mirage got nerfed/power crept and they were IMMEDIATELY phased out but before latest patch they were just as busted.

Saying that meta is just "whatever players are comfortable with" is just wrong. There's absolutely a "this hero is strong this patch so we're plaything them". Not going to say there isn't comfort picks but to say that most of them are just comfort picking is retard shit.
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>>560808519
Her early concept wasn't like that but Redditors complaining changed it
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>>560808676
warden assraping ngl
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what's the latest?
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This patch is basically just
>"Do we have miku?"
>If yes = win
>If no = lose
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What the fuck is that grab range on Ivy ult now??? That's fucking retarded
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holy shit mcginnis ult is cancer, 4k damage in like 3 seconds
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Those nerfa to miku's ult really impacted her hard guys wow
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>>560809004
They aren't even playing it right too, it's so much fucking worse in eu eternus.
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this game is so genuinely awful right now
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Another 10pm patch is dropping soon
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if Miku and/or Kelvin are good after an update, it means the patch is horrible
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>>560808274
give us a match id of a past game so we can watch a replay also tell us which hero u are
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Warden's gun looks so fucking dumb
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>>560809207
placeholder
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reminder this is the nerfed version of the ult
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>>560808274
>I never know where to go so I follow and try to support others,
Is there a teamfight going on right now?
>Y
Go to the teamfight. If a single guy on your team is being jumped around the corner from you it's also your job to make it a teamfight. If you are being jumped screech on voice and run towards friendlies so you can have a teamfight.
>N
Farm lane, if lane is pushed go farm jungle. Don't worry too much about taking Guardian/Walker solo right now, just follow your teammates if they show up, you'll figure out the rest later.
Congrats you're infinitely more useful than average Oracle player.
>I forget to use active items
Don't. Take ADD medication or something.
>I can't aim for shit.
Plenty of spirit characters (1234eginers) don't require much aiming and their gun is mostly a decoration and for killing creeps in lane.
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>>560808675
the spectator system sorta sucks doesn't show the real aiming too well, you only really know if a bullet hits if the little number showing damage comes up
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>pick miku and ivy
>win
Deadtards?
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>>560809241
sasuga yoshi-sensei
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This game is just decided entirely by team comp
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>>560809046
>Miku ult
>Nerfs
????
The slow got nerfed and duration was moved to T2 that was it.
It's damage + scaling+ AOE + cooldown was buffed by a good amount.
These are NOT nerfs.
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>>560809241
#RAPEYOSHI
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holy fuck there really are a lot of tourists in this general.
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>>560809237
Venator's and Silver's guns make me wish we had more guns that looked closer to the real deal. Of course within reason, the Picatinny rail on Silver's levergat is also retarded.
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>>560809386
>Everyone same skill with little to no problems.
>Game gets decided by strategy and decisions
applies to everything really
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She won again!
EASIEST win of her life!
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Melee shits finally lost
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>>560807506
hags look like this???
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>pros: silver is busted
>Yoshi: Silver is busted
>stats: silver is busted
>...
>/dlg/ waifu avatarfags: erm akshually
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>>560809386
First Moba?
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>>560809121
Emergency Silver nerfs!
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Say thank you to Miku!!!!!!
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the usual suspects
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>emissary VI
>win 10 games in a row
>finally rank up to archon 1
>immediately lose next game for shitter teammates
>rank down to emissary VI
>second time this has happened
What the fuck is this ranking system, man. It's not like I'm straddling some elo border, otherwise it wouldn't take me 10x more games to rank up than to rank down
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I'M NOT FINISHED YET
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>>560809653
Thank you to Miku
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the day Rem came out I suggested on the forums that his candle should melt down and fill the saucer with wax as he shoots and then he shakes it away to reload and they still haven't implemented it. very disappointing.
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mcginnis is about to get brutally raped again next patch thanks to this nightshift
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>abrums still broken
>victor still broken
>warden silence on cage is the dumbest shit i've seen in a long time
>wraith
>mcginnis ult is a 60% slow for some reason while also dealing unreasonable damage while also being able to shit out what are effectively mini sentries
>calico gets gold just for being in a fight for some reason?
>geist has been busted for how long now?
>mo and krill is unstoppably tanky while also dealing your entire health bar in damage post-nerf
>ivy permanently has fly
>viscous
>venator for some reason true damage?
>infernus can never be bad for some reason
>doorman

i uninstalled. i'm done. the balance isn't even dog shit, it's just utterly incompetent. i've played off and on for a long ass fucking time, and this is the worst i've experienced with so many heroes being so fucking stupid.
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how did we got from this: >>560808921
to this
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>>560809695
I think they probably will, since they already have it so the light dims as he shoots
>>560809732
GOOD
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>>560808824
Where can we see the early concept?
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How can people blame matchmaking when even pro matches end up as 35-5 stomps. Like cmon the game is just about stomping the enemy it's not the matchmakers fault it literally only matters who wins early game.
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>>560809736
quit whining faggot the game is as balanced now as it's ever been

actually yeah uninstall and fuck off go jack off in your little corner
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>>560809830
the current patch has been universally regarded as a massive mistake
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i will be booting up the game, going 0/8, blaming my laner, then logging off for the night

please look forward to it
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>>560809737
Sweet baby inc.
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>>560809737
Valve fired Sweet Baby inc
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>>560809863
shut up nigger you type like a reddit tranny
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>>560809736
this patch is a pretty good example of why "only buff, don't nerf" is a horrible idea
they heard people complaining about new hero power creep and decided to make 8 more heroes into complete cancer
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>>560809884
there has never been a patch where the early winners dont just choke out the map then get boss and win. There's no macro. There's no strategy beyond just winning a fight at mid boss after gaining a huge lead.
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>>560809884
I've seen noobs argueing it's a good patch even though it's obvious they don't play the fucking game frequently enough to have an opinion on it.
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>>560809824
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>>560809485
I wish Paradox had the gun from her initial splash art
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>>560810080
That gun is SEX, looks like an Mkb.
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>>560810080
From gorgous StG to weird rectangle shit.
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Doesn't Shiv and Mina on the enemy team just rape Mo and Krill out of existence?
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>>560809736
Venator true damage is kino though he should trade some of his burst for more sustained dps.
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>>560809863
This is like those "stop having fun memes" that get posted in communities when a game is going to absolute shit.
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>clear the lane Paige
>join teamfight Paige
>get the urn Paige
Meanwhile Seven just collect his 10th death and I have to deal with 45k Drifter
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>>560810080
what a cute uncanny valley stg44
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>>560810224
I honestly don't mind his true damage, however the fact it's true damage doesn't mean it should do your entire fucking health bar. Let him do true damage to an acceptable degree. Sure, penetrate that Abrum's asshole. Just don't make it do that Paige's entire health bar in one fucking stake.
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>>560810210
i'm pretty sure her current gun is just some neon prime reject
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>>560810054
Nononononono
NO
No
The only people defending this shit are people who genuinely don't play the game and are massive dickriders of valve.
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>>560810080
>STG
kino
I kinda think alot of the concept arts were better. Like long haired double drum mag Haze.
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>>560809863
>the game is as balanced now as it's ever been
this is just plain wrong
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>>560810054
if you ignore calico victor and mcginnis it's a pretty good patch
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>>560810291
i would never let you lane alone bby Paige ily haha
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It was good while it lasted Wardenbros he's not gonna be the same after next patch.
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*Taps sign*
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>>560810291
hi babe im archon
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THIS IS MY MOMENT..........
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>>560810492
>Seven and Mo don't fit
Actually retarded take
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>>560810492
I still have trouble seeing Seven as anything but a robot.
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>>560810492
>Fucking Eskimo nigga in NEW YORK
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>>560810492
How does Haze not fit?
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>>560810374
I can tell you that I'm having a great time in basic bitch phantom games, pretty much every single match has different heroes dominating it, I can't convince you differently if you don't also see this in your games
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>>560810342
the damage should be based on enemy max HP so it doesn't delete squishies but is good against stuff like Silver Wolf or MnK.
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>>560810492
Mo?
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REMINDER: these are your casters
>https://www.twitch.tv/deadlocknightshift/clip/SpicyCuteDootBudStar-ac0p1_qbpl1Iy6iZ
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>>560809237
>minigun
>17 bullet mag
>>560810485
his bullet damage has been nerfed 3 times since last november
seems like they want him to build more spirit but the only thing he has going for him is gun
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>>560810672
why the fuck would you ask that
what the fuck
literally check that mans hard drive, that sounds like a confession
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>>560810492
>Haze
>Seven
>Mo and Krill
>Paradox
>Rem
>Dynamo
>Doesn't fit

>Graves
>Billy
>Fits

Haze, Paradox, and Seven in particular are some of of the BEST designs in deadlock though. Haze is literally one of Deadlock's core characters. Literally what the absolute fuck is this tier list?
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>>560810736
It do be like that when you can hold people still for 3 hours and get free headshot
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>Silver
>10 picks
>8 wins
Bro she's so bad though, unplayable.
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>>560810492
what other occult-y folklore creatures could they make heroes out of?
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>>560810736
>build knockdown
>max 3
>even in eternus lobbies this will give you a 50% chance to silence, root, and get free damage on the enemy for two? seconds
which nigger gave this dipshit a free silence
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>>560810932
Crow
>V-vindicta
That's blueberry
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>>560810932
MOTHMAN
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>>560810568
He's in prison jumpsuit with his electric chair still attached to him. I don't see how he looks like a robot at all.
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>>560811009
>2 seconds
Not if I echo and cage you again
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i am liking vyper, but i have to go knockdown as core to actually hit my sshit
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>>560810492
You just placed these randomly, didn't you? Admit it.
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>>560811043
he's a robot last time i checked
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>>560810736
>>560811009
Warden is gross, he reminds me of DK from dota2.
>super fucking tanky
>but is also a carry
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>>560810871
Who was on her team for those wins?
Was it McGinnis?
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>>560810556
>>560810639
>>560810820
Paradox and Seven look like robots and Haze also looks like she belongs in Neon Prime. Mo & Krill are just ugly
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>>560811247
You just described Silver
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>>560810492
swap rem with calico and is ok

calico is a piece of shit that doesn't fit with the current aesthetic, she was ugly in neon prime and is ugly in this game
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Lets' see what this book can do
RAAAAAH
*heavy melee noises*
Don't bother getting up
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>>560811328
This was Haze in Neon Prime thoughbeit
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>>560810492
>Paige
Nah, not really. She dresses like your average Tumblr hipster and call me prudish if you must but she'd benefit from a longer skirt and more subdued tones. Her voice lines also make her sound like a foid self insert.
>Venator and Silver
Feels like they're from the 80s.
Same as above.
>Holliday, Kelvin, Warden, Grey Talon, Haze, Viscous, Yamato, Shiv, 7, M&K, Paradox, Vyper
Need remodels and in some cases reworks.
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>>560810054
why yes.. I do enjoy every match being
>Haze or Infernus vacuum cleaning all the farm up and becoming exodia at 32k souls.
>McG or Victor become Thanos by 32k souls and winning every team fight, one because they are unkillable and the other because you die instantly to barrage.
>Calico and MnK roaming the entire match raping people to death.

Every. Single. Fucking. Game.
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>>560810370
It would be great if Deadlock went fully with the old school gun culture guns or at least something that's clearly evocative of them but modified like what some characters have (Mina's 1908, Ivy's double Lanchester, Wraith's fucked-up Thompson, the ridiculously oversized Taurus Judge or even Haze's butchered silenced Uzi's, as beffiting an alphabet agency spook). Don't get me wrong, some funny sci-fi/fantasy stuff is nice but I feel like unique real gun designs are infinitely more interesting than "glowing laser gun (shoots yellow)".
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>>560805934
graves BTFO
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>>560811328
>Haze looks like she belongs in Neon Prime
Retarded or ignorant, call it.
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>>560809737
Neon Prime was woke.
Valve had the foresight to realize they were being lied to.
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What kind of sick fuck plays Yamato? Who looks at that awful neon prime model that's not even good and goes "yeah, I'll play THAT"?
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>melee creeps
>ranged creeps
>healer creeps
When are we getting caster creeps?
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>worst player in your group picks the hyper carry every game
>farms jungle all game
>ignores waves
>ends up negative
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>>560811712
orion is gaben
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>>560811720
she's japanese that already makes her superior to anyone else
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>>560811712
Stop fucking posting this. Like 90% of these are fan made.
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>>560811753
caster creeps are the ranged creeps, the real question is when are we getting siege creeps?
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>>560807837
erm incel women don't stand with their legs open like that
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They could run, but it won't matta
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What if I ricochet Mirage and accidentally kill you, wouldn't that be funny
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Yonder I wander
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I can never figure out how to lane properly in this game compared to dota or league
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>>560810672
>>560810789
a lot of deadlock jokes are just "x character is a pedophile" or "you're israeli"
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>>560811712
>cadence
that is just marci
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>every black character in the game is a criminal
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>>560811860
DE GOTE'S MISSIN'
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>>560811909
It's just completely different beast, I tried going back to dota and all my game sense was gone. I also missed the fact I could just out mechanic my way out of team diff games.
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>>560811987
PACOBELLLLLLLL
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>>560811909
Laning in this game is braindead simple
>be the first to clear wave
>attack enemies
>run boxes between waves
that's literally all you need to reach eternus 1, because I never bothered to learn anything more nuanced than that if there even is anything else. Only other thing is letting your lane partner take solo heal if you're at full hp and they're critically injured
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dey cahn run buh ih dont matta
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>>560811963
Vyper is clearly green
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>>560811995
shoot the fuck out of the enemy, keep hp high, get boxes when healing or regenning, shoot orbs, get bridge buff at 5, do camp when up at 2, try to steal their camp.
Die as little as possible.
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>>560811712
medic tf2?
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>>560811832
Most of those became the characters we have today though?
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>paige comes blue
>it's fine
>green completely empty, 10 minions on walker, no one else nearby
>ping green, hop on zipline and head over
>another enemy comes blue, paige gets dove and dies
>"thanks for leaving me to die without saying anything"
>i pinged green, what did you think 'headed for green' means
>"no you didn't, you stuck around"
>no I pinged green and then left for green
>"no you didn't"
just admit you're deaf, christ
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>Deykhanrun Buhtidhonmadha
Who?
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>>560811948
IDF Haze is funny.
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>>560810492
This irritated me enough to make my own tier list.
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>>560812030
>lane end
>enemy victor already 30k from feeding on Apollo
Now what
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>>560812071
about that - i dont understand how people find her "hot". she sounds like a literal fat whore who would suck dick for coke
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>>560811909
Push the wave, always push the wave even early because this gives you space to run for crates and powerups. Remember you can parry the Tower so always put the fear of death on your enemy laners.
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>>560812183
That's irrelevant because you just said laning ended. We were discussing laning.
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>>560812157
i'm dunhere
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>>560812182
Viscoos is just green Neon Prime Kelvin
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>>560812184
And you sound like 12 year olds, how does that feel
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>>560812183
buy curse
>it's victor so he just runs away
buy two curses
>now your team is down 12400 souls to shut down one person
>he's victor so he just self-revives
>now you're down 12400 souls and he's still walking at ou
uhmmmm ahkchawully it's your fault for not leaving lane and constantly babysitting the map so he can't farm!!!
these are legitimate suggestions i've seen on >>>reddit
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>>560812182
>calico not on her own "ugly as shit and doesn't fit in the game" tier
dumb list
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>>560812182
I wished they leaned into the "The Thing" Asthetic with Kelvin more.
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>>560812247
You said it's all you need to reach eternus1
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>>560810492
>>560812182
Why people talk smack about Dynamo?
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>>560811009
it's really not that good, you just see the few times it actually works and think it's broken but not all the other times he gets to use it and it does nothing
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HEDED TO GRENICHHH :D
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YOU WILL BE JUDGED
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>>560812182
acceptable tierlist, i'd push graves to eh though
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>>560811854
She's a unicorn though...
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>>560812182
Better list, celeste would fit if she had no tattoos+just her circus outfit (inb4 BUT TATTOOED LADIES EXISTED SO THERFORE A DANCER SHOULD HAVE THEM come in when vast majority didn't and the unicorn gimic is enough). Shiv is just Neon Prime with a retexture slapped on too btw. I don't see how Kelvin/Mirage/Holi don't fit. Billy could fit if he had a zoot suit instead of a punk jacket. Flubber is literal placeholder, no idea what he'll even look like finished.
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>>560812531
her uniform fits the time period and necromancy shit fits the occult setting but goth girls weren't a thing
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>Enemy team literally only has spirit damage
>"guys we should buy spirit resist they only have spirit heroes"
>Nobody buys it
>We lose
Phantom 2 lobby btw
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I just pick viscous pick every spirit item and punch people and it just works
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>>560812182
>deadlock is when suit and/or hat
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>>560812697
Huge influx of newfags, smurfs, and stack faggots today on NA.
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>>560812704
I have lost count how many times sewer looking fuck save enemy by punching them away
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when are they fixing these faggot ass movement "techs" like edge boosting and instant dash. They're so cringe and make the game miserable to chase already mobile cunts like calico or mina
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>>560812704
>Building spirit and punching
It just goes to show how powerful gooboy is
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>>560812182
I think Mirage fits becacuse while he's a foreigner he wears clearly military dress uniform themed clothes, something that I feel like very clearly references what an important Middle Eastern would look like in New York at the time - think Shah of Iran and the like. It's how I imagine a person staying at the Baroness would look like that also goes to rich people's parties to do politics. Far better than more openly fantastic or lower class Middle Eastern token character they could have.
Rest seems accurate for most part.
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>>560811762
>ignores waves
that's the craziest, it gives you way more money than creeps, specially if it's near you base and perfectly safe to clear, i've never seen people ignore a minion wave like they do in deadlock
I guess they see not everyone is clearing camps and feel likes it's a wasted opportunity, but even then the wave is right there, who knows really
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>it's another "doorman ults on the single enemy whos getting jumped by 5 people" episode
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>>560808154
wraith feels like ass to play with all damage frontloaded into card.
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>>560812962
>doormen uses ult to just kill steal
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>>560812182
>>560812591
I feel like bebop is somehow both super neon prime but also really really fits into the setting despite being a fucking robot with a wave motion beam
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>>560812283
And he still fits the aesthetic better than the NP designs purely because of the gloves I feel.
>>560812341
She's deff got an ugly model but she absolutely does fit the aesthetic with her clothes at least. Maybe the pants are a bit too baggy though. I think if her face/hair is improved then she'd be fine.
>>560812364
Same. Would be cool.
>>560812414
It's the body. I was conflicted because he's got the clothes, it's just his body that I'm iffy about, you could probably move him up to 'fits'.
>>560812531
I hate Graves. She looks like she comes out of a 90s posh high school, not a 50s one.
>>560812591
I don't even mind the tatts on Celeste because she's supposed to be a freak and I'm not a pearl clutcher over them. They're a little wierd but whatever.
Shiv has a 1950s greaser look which is around the cut off point for the max time I think is acceptable for deadlock.
Kelvin just looks out of place, not just because he's an eskimo in new york, he just looks wierd. I keep in Eh... he's fine but he's not what I point to when I show off the game's aesthetic/setting. Holiday looks a bit TOO dated for a southern sheriff. A bit too old cowgirl for me which I'm fine with. Just don't think it's super deadlocky. Hence. Eh.
>>560812785
Yes. 1950s max, 1910s minimum which is when suits and hats reigned supreme.
>>560812893
True. Move him up.
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Is the damage Drifter gets from his 3 flat damage added to his autos?
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>>560812927
I know waves give me more money but every time I farm side lane I cannot help the feeling that entire enemy team is currently eating all of MY JUNGLE, being the filthy fucking rats they are, and I feel compelled to leave the lane and at least clear the Sinners from MY JUNGLE, which tends to end with me walking over go MY OTHER JUNGLE to check if the enemies ate theirs.
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>>560812962
>enemy is going to die
this will be an enormous thing for us since we're behind and are slightly winning this fight
>doorman ults him
>he gets out
>it's lash so his cooldowns are ticking inside
>he comes out
>presses 2
>he's gone, nobody can catch him, he lives

DEATH TO DOORNIGGERS
i have this piece of shit set to be banned because I hate him on the enemy team and I hate him on my team. Fucking horrendous awful unbalanced and heinous to play against character. Fucking just awful. Single handedly makes the entire fucking match miserable.
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>>560812414
NTA but Bebop feels very much like a blatant robot neon prime rehash despite the fact he's described as a golem and while dynamo is a dying star piloting a metal shell he kinda just ends up feeling like a robot too
Bebop should feel more arcaney metal heap and Dynamo more living armor
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>>560813262
this is why I exclusively use my 4 as doorman to catch someone out, setup for my team, or stop an ulting enemy.
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>>560812341
the snobby british assassin aesthetic with the zoot suit really works.
and despite her name being calico and having a sphynx cat, the hairless disgusting beast also really complements it
just kinda needs a less shitty haircut
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when can i buy a skin for vyper? why do i gotta wear rags
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>>560813193
>Kelvin just looks out of place, not just because he's an eskimo in new york, he just looks wierd. I keep in Eh... he's fine but he's not what I point to when I show off the game's aesthetic/setting.
Kelvin is dressed like the arctic explorers were dressed he fits the period, now does he look like a Wight? Hell no but that can easily be fixed.
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Lore expert here
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>>560812405
Yes so stop asking questions, you've learned enough
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>>560813523
Why would doorman have a penis but Rem wouldnt, this makes no sense
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>>560812182
Seven's design is very cool and fitting and Idk why people say otherwise.
>Old timey tesla coils all over him
>Striped prison suit
>Leather belt bindings
>Typewriter style font for the number ID
>Old style meter above numbers
The hat is a neon prime holdover but I think the sandogasa look works to his benefit.
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>>560813639
Because doorman is imitating a human.
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>>560813523
venator is a pedo priest that rapes kids
vindicta was the kid that venator's ancestors raped before execution
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>>560813639
Rem literally isn't wearing pants, we can see he's dickless
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>>560813523
I don't know about Ivy+Rem, Paige aught to be a Virgin but they wrote her lines like a quirky millenial woman that sleeps around. Haze gives major "married to her job" vibes so unless she has a spouce could be either. Mirage is not a virgin, and Venator may not be one depending on when he became a priest.
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>>560813504
I can see what you're saying, you convinced me.
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>>560813523
Venator's my husband so he's not a virgin
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>>560813781
He is a Gryphon, and certain species of animals have retractable genitalia
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>>560813523
Viscous is like a sea anemone or something so it's very likely he reproduces asexually.
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>>560813781
He has a cloaca, which is genetalia
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>>560812983
I usually get monster rounds since a carry is going to farm anyway and might as well but even then she has 52 ammo, high fire rate and not the slowest reload time, he should try vyper and see how strong that feels

you're basically not trading in lane if you don't have at least 2 cards saved and full auto up specially against some fuck ass spirit user that's just going to shit all over the lane and run back to wait his cooldowns, full auto looks like it doesn't do much giving you only 2 more damage per bullet but it really is night and day, quicksilver reload is a must
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>>560813179
I think they need to make him more scrap golem styled. He definitely has too many neon prime holdovers.
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>>560813523
for mo & krill, do you mean both or just of them?
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>>560813523
I've had sex with Mirage.
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>>560813179
It's the red colour making him seem like a scrapgolem, makes him blend in more but if you look close he's clearly futuristic.
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magic SUWWOUNDS US :3
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>>560813706
Salem witch trials were done by insane protestant puritans THOUGH
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>>560813449
>zoot suit
more like shit suit
she is also basically just a neon prime model with extra ugly shit on top, she goes in that tier or her own ugly as shit one
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I don't mind celeste's design but they better leave her as the last hero added to have a black leather biker jacket
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>>560813992
Fwenship is magik!
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>>560813697
I want to see more of his gross charred flesh and also think his pauldrons make him look a bit too beefy for his role
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>look for the source of the victor x ivy wedding image
>the artist drew ivy sucking victor's cock
kino desu
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>>560813781
so what? you can't see dicks on normal birds either
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melee creep bros?!
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>>560813948
Mo is popular with the ladies.
Krill frequents brothels
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had a good game as Paradox, haven't played her in a year. Anything important to know? The build I was using started as Gun before moving into Spirit
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>>560814067
Yeah her design is fine. Just fucking... HER STUPID JACKET DOESNT FUCKING FIT AT ALL AND THEY EVEN HAVE LINES ABOUT IT SO ITLL NEVER GET CHANGED FUCK YOU PLAYTEST NIGGERS
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>>560814161
> Anything important to know?
you are a burden to your team
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>>560814192
>>560814067
autism
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>>560814103
Erm... sauce???
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>Night shift is over and now I only have the next patch to look forward to.
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>>560807646
the worst the base skin, the better the paid skins
>>560808192
lost against this combo. Not sure how it worked out, Ivy did nothing but McGinnis was farmed as fuck
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>>560814192
it kinda fits, I mean they wanted her to be a washed out older carnival lady right, motorbike tricks are like core carny aesthetic, she isn't punk at all it's more stunt driving I think they were going towards
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>>560814101
wait for the skins
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>>560814262
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69% win rate with Seven
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so this confirms that Oses > Eido, right?
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idk what to make the gun pointed at her, i'm thinking doorman casting her into the baroness
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>>560814280
>it kinda fits, I mean they wanted her to be a washed out older carnival lady right, motorbike tricks are like core carny aesthetic, she isn't punk at all it's more stunt driving I think they were going towards
I don't want bother writing a response to this, it's all wrong, and if you want to know why it's wrong go find it out yourself by reading about it.
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>>560814537
Oses > Sanya >>>>>>>>> Eido
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>>560814469
There's no sucking
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What if cosmetics turn out to be like TF2 on crack with 'skins' being fully modular outfit sets you buy at full price or get lucky with crates and they also have dyes and those retarded effects and weapons are some CS autism with moving textures and kill trackers and name tags and seasonal exclusive outfits and crates and limited time deals and extremelyxrare promo items and uhhhhh add a menu option to disable all cosmetics
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>>560814713
my bad i was in the middle of a match and couldn't find another way to describe it
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>>560814591
i think it'd be best with Abram's shotgunvolver thing with a stun icon above her
or Rem's candle because funny
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I've fall out of arcanist rank
I really don't understand how I'm supposed to rank up
How do I deal with a Seven than ran in to melee with Victor 19 times in lane
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>>560814591
She was attacking an asian manlet so it should be Pocket's shotgun
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>>560814469
>The hotdog
Based lore knower
>>560814591
Holliday being the law
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>be me
>24/7 high prio victor abuse so i can climb out of pisslow
>enter match, fed as fuck in lane, other team is clearly terrible
>3 people on my team ragequit in under 10 minutes
>just hold down lane for 5 mins so i can get infuser
>start running it mid down raping the entire enemy team for 20 straight minutes
>eventually lose anyway obviously
>end lobby like this
get me out of this elo bros
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I wish they would revert ivy to how she used to be. new ivy is so FUCKING annoying.
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>>560814275
It's okay. There'll be another Silver Shift next week, anon. Chin up!
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>>560814913
>92k
>38 kills
What fucking pisslo are you in? I never seen anyone get more than 20 anymore and I'm only Oracle.
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>>560814925
I love Ivy but I really do miss her gun.
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>>560815021
this was low arcanist, the game threw me in initiate for some reason so i get the privilege of witnessing 3 people running at a fed victor with no greens every other match
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>enemy Rem hops in the air and pops Naptime
>it's gonna hit everyone ohgodohgod we're gonna wipe
>SIKE
>Phantom Strike into the air
>hello_there.mp4
>Shoulder Charge and frickin swat the bird into the floor
>MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA
GOD WHY IS ABRAMS SO FUN
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>start playing a month ago
>try pro player builds
>feel like shit, can't deal damage, die all the time, no idea why these items are here
>fuck it, learn itemization and make my own builds from scratch
>climb to archon
>stop climbing
>feel like i'm back to initiate
>try pro build again
>shitting out damage like crazy, never die, go 10/0
I guess some of them do know what they're doing
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>>560815082
Bomber/Melee playstyle fits a quirky vigilante that rapes gangs much better, her gun growth is just a little undertuned
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the mo and krill just targeted ultis paige all game long and typed RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE all chat every time she died to it
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Are mo&krill an item?
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>>560815462
beast mode
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>>560815462
wow hes literally me
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>>560815462
honestly based hope they won
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I feel like I should start taking some gun items as good supplementary damage on Lash, what's good on him?
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>>560815508
No, the shopkeeper doesn't sell them
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>team getting raped by an obvious aimbotter
>my team's haze pauses, disconnects, reconnects, and starts blatantly aimbotting back
>we won
>both chink names
thanks i guess
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>>560815642
but anon that cant be true they'll just get le frogged!
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IM DOING IT
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Ivys design would've been infinitely better if she didn't have a shitty fucking ugly woke lesbian undercut hairstyle
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>>560815642
lmao based
always a bigger fish
you better have commed the haze
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>>560815556
you want mystic shot and any 1 of headhunter alc fire toxic bullets ballistic enchantment or cultist to hit the investment spike
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>>560815642
Back when rainbow 6 siege had no anticheat every one at high ranks was wallhacking but I managed to befriend a guy who had an aimbot and he'd just out hack them and they would get PISSED it was just hackers vs hackers but they couldnt shoot him through the walls fast enough. probably my fondest gaming memory so funny
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when i am king of the world, cheating will be punishable by death
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ive played 200 games and i have yet to see a single intentional feeder who runs down mid OR an afker
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How do you generally counter wraith? If you build spirit resist her gun rapes you. If you build bullet resist her cards rape you.
It's like I'm playing against an overtuned character that has no counters.
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>>560815287
pro builds generally require you to know what you're doing, or at least enough to know when to break away from L>R and get resilience
does lead to those funny situations where a 100% new venator tries to gutshot melee but doesn't know what gutshots range is or that a single parry can end his entire lane
or someone getting raped doesn't buy extra regen, or buys healing rite and then immediately walks out to take damage
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>>560816086
"mister krill we have a problem, ult this nigger NOW"
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>>560816086
Just jump her with silence before she can jump you :))))
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>>560816057
It's pretty rare surprisingly
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>>560816086
bait your teammates to tank the cards, then metal skin
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>>560816057
Not much of a difference between an intentional and unintentional feeder.
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@everyone valve needs to add a hero that's literally just pic related to deadlock.
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>>560816158
But she has dispel magic which gets rid of the silence.
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>>560813961
nashala...
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>>560813961
Mo & Krill....
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>>560816289
There are configs that do that
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>>560816057
have had three this week at high ascendant. the most toxic bracket
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>supports buy shit like boundless spirit and reverb instead of curse and divine barrier
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According to the women of Deadlock this is what peak male performance looks like.
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I don't know what nigger youtuber is telling newfags to farm jungle all game but it keeps happening, our base is getting burned by minions and there's always a fag nearby killing camps instead of clearing the waves
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>>560816665
in league the jungle apparently gives the same money as lane with little to no risk
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Silver used to handle 1v2 pretty easily, but not anymore...
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>>560816665
The faggot streamers and youtubers that tell people "bro just ignore your team and farm" are 100% to blame for this shit. They just hit a jungle camp for 400 souls for a minute straight when they could help their team and get 2k souls or fight waves for 1000 and add pressure to the map. But no, they afk farm instead. REEEE
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How should I play early laning as Lash in lane to win?
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should i consider buying 'support' items, now and then, even if im carrying? like knockdown against a bunch of floaty/mobile characters? if my team wont
or do i just go tankier
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>>560816938
Swap to mid then hang around at the vertical zipline to boss. If anyone comes near you just slam them to the sewers lol
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>>560816660
Both built to be raped.
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warp stone is the fentanyl of deadlock once you're used to having one you need one on every character you play
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>>560817221
what's the femtanyl of deadlock though
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>>560816665
doesn't help structures can't do anything to minions too, but hey games still go over 50 minutes so
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Sex with Billy and Mo!
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>>560816980
if it helps you kill then yeah
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>>560817221
nah that item is ass now that slow hex disables it
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Yamato model still taking forever?
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>>560817392
i use it to chase not to flee
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>>560817336
This is a porn artist isn't it, I can tell by the art style
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>>560816768
w-what are they doing to her
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>>560817517
Duh
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>>560817458
retard
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>>560817424
Yoshi is holding onto it to piss /dlg/ off
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>>560817285
I'm convinced this is WHY games go on so long. You cannot ever clear the sidelanes, unlike dota (and probably league) so you constantly have to do long chores. Because unless you clear the current creep blob, then the next 2 incoming groups, it will still push back to your base for some reason. I think minions using zipline is a terrible design choice and even though you're moving a lot and it's faster paced in the moment, it slows down games.

Also if I take 1 T3 tower, we're probably taking all 3 and both shines, because taking a T3 is too risky on it's own most of the time and you're gonna wait for midboss, and to combat this they give the patrons that long invuln/phase transition, making the game take even longer when the shrines could simply have much more hp or something. I dunno, it's all fucked
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>>560817658
I won't hold my breath, but I'm really hoping for big-hat.
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>>560816554
>buy curse or silence wave, arctic blast, knockdown, and divine or nova
>entire team is too retarded to function beyond going 1/10/1 but somehow still functional enough to drag a game out for 50 minutes
it's a rough world out there
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>>560817723
The real problem is how easy it is for players to traverse the map. You can be in the sidelanes and back to mid in like 5 seconds. Why even have multiple lanes
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Reached Ritualist I skill rank
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>>560816086
stop playing and wait for the patch
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>>560816554
>rem steals all your farm to build full damage pillow
>the majority of your team is spirit damage so it just does nothing
nice
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>Con Artist character
>gun
>german drilling
>Snake Oil
>leave a slippery puddle that will slide a player in the direction of your choice
>Genuine Article
>copy a non-ultimate skill of your choice and lock that skill for the enemy player for a duration
>Taxman (passive)
>destroying sinners or boxes leaves a fake copy that steals enemy souls and deposits them directly in your bag when they're hit or broken; fake lasts until destroyed or a real one respawns
>50% of all your soul gain goes into unclaimed souls, drastically improves stats and gun damage depending on how big your soul bag is
>Cult of Personality
>ultimate makes everyone on the map immune to player damage, self-damage is turned on for enemy team, and the game treats enemy players as your team's creeps denying any resistances to objectives even in the patron pit
u rike?
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Isn't it about time to start bitching for the next patch? Where are the fucking remodels.
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Buff Graves she feels like shit to play
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Silver buffs when
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>>560818218
>he wants to literally hold down his mouse and rape people
even victor has to aim his 1
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>load in
>your team only has supports
>get giga fucked by the enemy carries
didn't know this was allowed
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>>560818410
she has to do that because her abilities are fucking unusable
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>>560818457
>>your team only has supports
if your "supports" didn't recognize they're about to get fucked and built healslut items it's on them
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Someone please post the hand on shoulder Mo and Krill edit.
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I look like this
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>>560818617
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>>560817601
okay but who is it
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>>560818863
If you dont already know you probably dont want to know, but dangpa.
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>>560818596
i dont have it but i want this too
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>introduce a friend to the game
>he is so bad, he can't trigger Silver's ult once, throughout several street brawl matches

i regret everyting
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>>560819013
Not his fault silver is a terrible hero
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>>560819013
maybe he's trying to use controller
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>>560818705
same, lets punch some vending machines
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>>560817723
in league towers deal % damage to minions, 45% per hit to melee troops and 80% to casters I think
sometimes wonky minion placement makes one wave push the other when they're supposed to be evenly matched but a tower has more than enough time to kill an entire wave before the next one arrives, not clearing a wave is more of a matter of not earning that money and risking someone teleporting to that wave to take the tower and not having it to slow a push down if they win a team fight, and said towers also don't give people permanent item slots of course

deadlock delivering minions straight to the objective and also spawning them faster and also making them drop in weird geometry pretty much guarantees a wave is going to win over the other once the first guardian comes down and the structures just can't dispatch of them to reset the wave and let their own troopers hit them

just make them kill troopers MUCH faster in my opinion, look at this, it takes a walker almost 3 and a half minutes to kill one wave when the slowest they spawn is a new wave every 30 seconds
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>>560818925
You were right, I didn't want to know
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>>560819190
Congrats on being retarded.
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>>560819168
>A walker literally can't kill one single Rem-buffed minion
that's pathetic, no wonder pushing lanes with his buddies is so fucking strong
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>>560819168
>towers being unkillable via creeps would make games go faster
how retarded are you my nigga
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>mcginnis not even contested in EU night shift
so they're just retarded right
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>hear rem in our double sinners
>run in, shotgun him against the wall and ram a stake through his brain
so satisfying
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How do people do bad on Infernus you just point and click to win.
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>>560819369
the devs? yeh
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>>560819498
id play him more if he wasnt so fucking slow. makes chasing people to proc afterburn way more annoying
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I'm waiting for the mafioso ratman character.
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>>560819358
the issue at hand is how people being forced to constantly lane janny or risk giving the enemy more souls than an urn at the start of the game makes so there's always 3 or 4 alive and you can't just end the game after team fighting
them being as weak as they are clearly isn't making games faster NIGGA
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>>560819369
yes. Pros are notoriously stubborn about what they think is "good" despite all evidence pointing toward stuff being OP they arent used to playing with it or havent practiced it and refuse to until someone else does it and shows them it's good. Victor would be so good but pros just think he's shit cause they're really fucking dumb and dont understand how to play him to get value (it doesnt matter if he is killable he makes giga space)
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>>560819638
if you dont have the map control to kill them when the creeps clash to prevent them from shoving waves then you arent in a position to end anyway NIGGGGGGGAAAAAA
Only exception is that faggot graves hero that pushes it from her base for free
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>>560819168
>it takes a walker almost 3 and a half minutes to kill one wave
have you ever tried launching the game? perhaps playing one match?
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>>560817336
Link the full
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>>560819859
If you insist.
https://files.catbox.moe/f9c8j8.png
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>>560819752
4 troopers per wave, 2% per second, that's if they don't do the fire attack, sure I'll give you that
but you can take it and shove it up your ass if you're telling me waves aren't mowing down structures right now
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>>560819936
Yeah, that's ths dream right there, extremely hot. Thanks a lot anon. I still hate getting ulted by the fucker though.
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>>560819268
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Not the first time I've seen obese gay furry porn, won't be the last
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>>560820151
Good to hear, though for me it's Mo.
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rem's little barbed penis in my mouth
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>>560819967
show me a single clip of a walker not doing the fire attack for 3 and a half minutes, ever, in any game.
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why aren't the -1% CDR permanent buffs multiplicative?
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>>560820283
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>>560812809
>Land one million punches bouncing the enemy into our team, hit six million cubes to save a team mate
>No one says anything
>Fuck up one punch knocking an enemy or ally out of position and fucking up a kill, maybe cube someone at the wrong time
>VISCOUS OH MY GOD BRO.....
I hate these gooyim they don't have to work to do damage at all they just faceroll 1234 or hold M1 the amount of visual spatial reasoning that goes into playing Viscous is immense none of them understand me and none of them appreciate me.
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>>560820261
I'm whatever with walker but the last 2 towers are worthless bitches
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>>560820224
Hey they're both hot, if I were to go into a bit of detail, I'd want to personally be in Billy's position.
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>>560820431
I'm sorry that you have to change 3 key for the third time this month
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>>560820490
Same. It's just a sketch but here's a bonus https://files.catbox.moe/nv2ou6.png
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>>560820572
Holy based, I'm eating good today.
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>enemy team actually bought cursed relic and raped me as victor ruining my 15 kill streak
this is unfair........victor is so weak he needs buffs.........
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>>560820745
>only one curse howd you die the second time, n00blet?
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>>560820838
usually i just run in 1v6 and run around chasing the closest person and 1-2 people usually die before my first life but this time all of them were alive
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>celeste
>attack guardians and patron
>540 objective damage at the end
what the fuck is melee really my only option to take down structures with her?
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>>560820926
different characters have different strengths and weaknesses, structure damage is not a strength of celeste :^)
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>>560820926
only 540? maybe they were fortified post the replay id
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just remembered curse didn't used to have a -10% damage penalty, instead it was +15% weapon damage
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>>560819936
>>560820572
>barely any visible genitalia
actual faggotry
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graves has such a funny dash animation watching her pathetically trying to flee is one of my great joys
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Enough with the gay porn
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Why is toxic bullets a go to item on Drifter?
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>>560821964
Not always, it's a good anti heal though
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>>560821918
Sex with Billy, you say?
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>>560821918
More of paradox' thick legs instead
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>CS community seething and crying because devs actually updated the game
We are no different from them
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My gripe with silver doesnt have anything to do with the characgers balance, its just that its so far by far the most blandest, boring, unimaginative, telegraphed and soulless hero design. Even the abilities are soulless and boring. This furry tumblrina stands out like a sore thumb among all the other soulful and original cast its terrible.
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>>560822732
The difference is we actually get big changes, CS players will literally lose their minds if Valve touched the recoil on any guns.
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>>560822816
how is silver's design tumblr at all?
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I lost a game today because I had a very obviously tons women on my team and a chud. The Trans women was named "wolf girl yuri" and it triggered the chud so badly he just started sprinting it and flaming her in voice chat. Climbing in team games is painful.
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I got told not to Kelvin dome a Victor but we had a Pocket and I feel like I lost the game because it made me not want to dome whenever Victor was around because he'd just stick to me in fights, is it never worth to Kelvin dome a Victor...?
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>>560823032
Is VC recorded in replays?
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>>560823047
It's worth it if you can kill the Victor. Use your judgement, there's no solid answer on this it's game to game basis.
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>>560821918
Ok but I'm posting homoerotic pictures instead.
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>>560823032
love those strawberry candies
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>>560823047
if you're asking this and were told not to by a teammate then you were probably gas chambering your own team with a full health + ult victor. only dome him if you can kill him.
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>>560823131
I'll just ignore then next time then, there were a few times especially with Infernus' help we could've burned through Victor ult and raped him but being told prior not to and not wanted to get sperged at I ended up holding onto it a lot more than I'd have wanted.
>>560823246
I never domed him at all that game, period. The Lash on my side just asked me not to pretty early on in the game and the Victor was never really that far ahead. The only time I did (after being told not to), was when he was half hp with no ult and that was when I was trying to get the Rem and we killed both anyway..
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>>560823094
No idea
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ahahahahaha
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MO AND KRILL
HAND ON SHOULDER MEME
DELIVER
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>>560823459
36 minute game by the way. how can the matchmaking possibly be this bad
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More silver nerfs soon
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>>560823032
Literally every single troon I've played with has had a Silver-related name.
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>buy curse
>disarming hex
>knockdown
>warp crystal
yeah, it's time to not let anyone play the video game
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>>560823647
SILVER DOWNPLAYERS???
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>>560823032
Fuck I should change my name to something similar to make chuddies melt.

>>560823094
No as far as I know.
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>>560823829
this but doorman with phantom strike for ult, knockdown and vortex web. i spend all game carting people into walkers and instant transmission ulting the lowest stamina player on cooldown when i get max ult
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>>560823647
what is this
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>>560816086
Return Fire so she rapes herself
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>play Warden
>giant gun damage
>free immobilize in teamfights
>low cd spam
>can snowball the other team after one good fight
>mechanically braindead w+m1 that takes even less skill than haze and wraith
>gets royally fucked if gun is disabled because no escape
>ult is a colossal meme
>can't comeback if he's behind
what the fuck is this design
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>>560823647
These "people" are genuinely delusional
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>>560824037
Another episode of a pro player saying Silver is super strong in the tournament so she should be nerfed for everyone else
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Can we get some Mirage upplayers here?
He needs more nerfs.
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>>560823647
>meanwhile in real world
>carry in question
it's ivy carrying useless wolf out of trouble
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2725825450?t=5h27m34s
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>>560824407
>>560824432
He just won a tournament playing Silver.
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>>560824610
>won a tournament playing Silver.
he won DESPITE playing silver, k?
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>>560824610
MORE SILVER NERFS, NOW!!!
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>>560824610
With the lowest player damage in the match.
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>>560823647
>she can carry
Yeah, just like literally every other hero.
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>>560824432
why should i care
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>>560824710
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE SILVER ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH SHE ONLY WINS "PRO" GAMES YOSHI BUFF HER NOW PLEASE
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Why is silver getting nerfed far harder than mina?
Are silvergooners just more autistic?
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>>560824783
Because she's gonna be nerfed because this, this is how all her previous nerfs happened
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couple dumb questions. does extra range only work on abilities? is there any way at all to increase grave's gun's latch range? for mcginnis turrets, does ability range increase the range at which they can fire at enemies, or increase the range you can throw them? any good chinese builds rn?
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>>560824964
extra gun range is given by sharpshooter
if it says "ABILITY RANGE" then it probably only boosts abilities
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>>560824964
>why does ability range item only work on abilities
if only there was a weapon item called long range that increased your weapon's fall off distance
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is there a single silver upplayer above phantom other than vegas?
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So what's the actual silver build?
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>>560824964
yes
long range/sharpshooter
both
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Silver will be nerfed in the upcoming patch. Thank you for the feedback!
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>>560824838
Even the dev team finds Silver players annoying and wants to punish them.
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>>560825213
Ring of repick
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if the enemy team has victor you gank him from minute 2 right?
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>pros have their own agenda
>streamers have their own agenda
>4channers have their own agenda
>disorders have their own agenda
Can Valve just don't listen to anyone and make their own decisions without pandering to one of the groups? Is it that hard?
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Abrams keeps coming!
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>play shiv
>lose
>play abrams
>win

Oh no I’m low skill…
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>>560825367
>dude just ignore your playerbase
that's how you get Highcuck and Cuckord
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>>560825448
I didn't say that. I said stop listening to the groups with obvious agendas. Most Deadlock players to engage with any of those groups I mentioned, they just play the game. Valve has all the data from playtests, they can do their own decisions too.
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>>560824838
breeding this EXACT mina
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>>560825448
>ignoring biased feedback is the same making a product nobody wants
Successful game devs (Deadlock is successful) know better how to develop their game than the playerbase
What's it like up there on Mt. Stupid?
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>>560825320
lmao
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>>560825367
or better, how about the devs play their own fucking game. Maybe they'll remove the debuff cleanse off Victor
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>>560819369
They banned silver in every game yes.
Even if you're under the delusion she's strong, she's not first pick/first ban material.
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>>560825693
>devs play their own game
>"like the way it plays now"
>4chuddy plays the game
>"i don't like the way it plays now"
who should devs cater to?
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>>560823647
>Viscous players trying to make silver look OP so their main dodges more nerfs
I AM NOTICCCING
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>>560825592
>What's it like up there on Mt. Stupid?
I don't know, you live there, you tell me.
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>queue 10 characters
>got dynamo for 3 games straight
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The only other type of comp game I've ever engaged with while having the intent of improving as much as I can is fighting games. It's genuinely shocking to me how much moba players will doom after like 2 weeks of a bad meta. The game I come from is guilty gear gear and at times ive had to play on dogshit balance patches for up to an entire year. You people don't know how good you have it.
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>>560825839
channers are trannies anyway
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>>560825895
>ive had to play on dogshit balance patches for up to an entire year
hah, you've had it easy
dota 2 players have been stuck on shit balance patches for over THREE years
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>Silver gets picked
>gets carried by Geist and Calico
>has nearly as many souls as Ivy
>upplayers use this to claim she's actually totally busted bro believe me
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>>560825959
Alright I kneel
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how hard is apollo to play? was taking a break when new heroes got added and only played against him a few times - he seems insanely tanky even with 0 items but maybe that was just me being bad at tracking him flying around.

dont want my high rank friends to get pissy if I feed my ass off so I wanna know if hes hard/if I should play some solo games with him first
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The constant, pathological downplaying of Silver has convinced me she's actually overpowered, there's no other reason for this.
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>>560826067
There's no downplaying of her though, only upplaying.
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>>560825969
Yup, sounds like first pick material to me!
Silver is busted buddy just ignore your lying eyes and listen to what the (((pros))) and (((ecelebs))) say
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>>560825878
They can't shoot an atom!
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>>560826065
I thought it would be hard but you really just use the 3 stabs whenever and fuck off with backflip
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>>560826065
street brawl nigga
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just got 20 kills as the big Drifter. Kneel
>>560826065
To play well? pretty hard. To do well in shitter mmr? Easy as fuck
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I want to be able to buy TWO curses
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>>560824964
You can buy sharpshooter, but you get like 5m of extra distance.
You decide if it's worth 3200.
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>>560826232
hmm... nyo
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I am old and can't aim so I can only do well with spirit heroes and Graves
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>Stone Form stun always makes the enemy model face away from you when stunned, to prevent easy headshots
fucking retarded faggots at valve
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>>560826067
Indeed, I mean just look at THIS match where Silver swept the floor with the enemy team
Warden, Mina and McGinnis may have done most of the work but Silver was there too!
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>>560826275
just play victor and stink up the joint
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>>560826065
Easy, I'd in fact say one of the easiest. He will almost autowin early game with his damage, and his 4 movement abilities make him hard hero to kill at every point of the game, even when his damage output starts falling off.
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>>560826275
unc playin some israelgpt ahh spiritniggers huh
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>>560826275
you can go back to /a/, furry
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Today was a trainwreck and the final straw. I'm done with Deadlock until they rewrite the matchmaking because it is nothing but stomps, leavers, and people throwing voice chat tantrums after losing lane.
Going to deep dive into my backlog. Emulate some Onimusha 3, replay Bayonetta, and try out some Doom wads.
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>>560812071
Every black hero is a criminal but not every criminal is black
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>>560817862
seriously what the FUCK
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>>560826343
What the fuck happened to Melee Creeps
First Abrahams now these guys
All the former champions are getting reduced into bums
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>>560826275
try drifter he has a huge bullet so it's easier and some good spells that do high damage too
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>>560825969
>A character forces other players to react and counter that character
>This makes rest of characters in the that able to contribute more
>The reason others could deal so much damage was because enemy team focused this other character
It's like Victor. If your team ignores him and kills rest of the enemy team first you have better chances at winning team fight. Except for silver you can't ignore her.
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>>560826429
>plays rem
yeh no wonder you have no agency in your games play a real hero at least fucking paige
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>cs2 gets a change that nobody needs
>community is outraged
>mouth breathers who never played the game are saying that the community is ungrateful despite them asking for updates (the update they wanted is a proper anti cheat and proper bot solutions)
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>>560826439
>All the former champions are getting reduced into bums
when the meta shifts things can get shaky since there are only so many characters they can regularly use and get very comfortable with
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>>560826573
Your fault for playing csgo buddy not gonna lie
In EU everytime me and the lads played you would face turkish hackers 100% of the time. For some reason its always the turks.
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>>560826573
this is a deadlock general
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I still don't know why Warden ult need charge
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>>560826450
She's much easier to ignore than Victor lmao
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>>560826573
you can just play faceit if you actually cared anyways which you probably don't
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>>560826067
What are you waiting for, pick her and climb. Pros say she's OP, e-celebs say she's OP, ruskis ban her on sight, so she must be insane OP hero.

Totally not a shared delusion.
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>>560826343
jesus.... look at those shiv stats.... yoshi buff this shit hero already
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>>560826682
Its a unfair comparison in the first place since silver needs to steamroll and end the game as quickly as possible. In a meta where games are harder to end and will constantly last 40+ minutes. Meanwhile Victor can just afk farm and 1 v 6 at full build.
Nothing alike at all.
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>>560826682
Point being damage numbers/KDA are not only thing that contribute towards your team winning. Character drawing aggro from the enemy team is also important. Victor/Silver etc are good at doing that.
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>Finally have a team willing to follow up on my ivy plays
>Actually go in when I rock
>Seven glued to me for tether
>We utterly destroy other team
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>>560826450
>billy rams into teamfight
>free vortex with his ult
>free aoe knockup with his 1
>silver jumps into teamfight
>ummm
>uhhh
>one hero got disarmed for like 1 second I guess????
>silver jumps out and rides the zipline to base because she's at 100hp
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>>560826881
One of them has 55% winrate
The other has 45% winrate
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>still downplaying
Manifesting 2nd nerf
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>>560826931
>billy can shoot gun
>silver forced to melee only
Silver upplayers have to be trolling, right?
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>>560826928
Use your mic and those things will happen more often, my support cuck negro friend.
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Is Mina a gook or vietnamese?
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>>560827105
Korean.
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>>560827105
what's the difference
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>victor is unkillable at certain amount soul
>victor in my team still feeding after 40k souls
Make it make sense
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>>560826931
>>560827067
His 1 also procs heavy melee items at tier 3 and is a charged ability
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>>560827226
Hypercarries require a specific playstyle and even if you hit your big powerspike you can still fuck it up by taking greedy fights.
If I had to guess the dude probably tried to 1 v 3 without help from his team.
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>>560826682
How? Dude is just sitting in his lane for first 40 minutes. Silver is on your ass soon as her ult is up.
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>>560827483
>Silver is on your ass soon as her ult is up.
Good, I like free kills.
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>>560825365
build triple curse
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>>560827226
>enemy victor
>buys good items that make him tanky and deal damage
>victor on my team
>gun victor
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>>560826343
>34k damage
>More than Mina, slightly less than McGinnis
>Out damages their carry
>Despite being played as a pick hero
Uhm.. bwo..
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>>560827301
Billy is a better silver and there is no other way to look at it, they technically have the same role but Billy will always do his with far greater ease. Also yes his 1 is better than Silver's lunge and bite combined.
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>>560826346
victor is heavily reliant on hitting his pain battery or he'll just die
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>>560827747
The lane wide "skillshot" that you can't actually miss?
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any hero that relies on some conditions to be met to ult is going to have a rough time. Silver reminds me a lot of Nightstalker in that respect
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>>560827861
i miss it all the time. tip against victor: jump up and down as much as possible like a baboon and he may miss
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>>560827894
This is what I mean by people being carried upwards by broken heroes, you have difficulties hitting this fan shaped lane wide, massively ranged bullshit skill that does a lot of damage and heals just because of a little verticality.
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>>560827483
>Silver is on your ass
oh nooooo
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>be me
>trying different builds than my usual just to see if there's anything i'm overlooking in my gameplay
>build recommends extra regen first item
>i mean doesn't healing rite statistically and mathematically just do better
>except if i'm playing trades smart it feels like i've always got enough health to keep going
>pair with mystic regen for a steady heal flow
>don't die at all in lane
>accumulate a huge lead over the course of the game and snowball to a victory
extra regen... mystic regen... i'm sorry i ever doubted you.........
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>>560828128
Yes retard because fights are chaotic and no one will just stand still. How hard is it to understand when the roster has tons of mobility heroes who can out juke you?
Good luck hitting that against a Lash/Celeste as a example.
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Reminder that victor has a 30% slow on his aura and a 40% for 2 seconds on his 1, just adding mystic slow and his aura does 60%. It's as braindead as it gets.
>>560828265
I cannot understand how you miss this all the time, if you crosshair is in the general vicinity of the enemy's vertical line you hit.
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>>560828232
>mina with dbr
you could replace silver in this clip with any close range character in the game other than billy and it would go exactly the same
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>>560828232
Reminder that this is the best counterplay against Silver and most "people" in this game can't do it and get run over by her
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>>560826275
I have cracked aim but I enjoy spamming actives more. Yoshi should try harder if he wants people to ACTUALLY play gun heroes beyond it being a responsibility.
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>>560828456
Too many overwatch rejects who have a meltdown when they can't hold W every fight.
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>only just realised savannah's model is literally lady geist
When are they gonna update everything about Sinclair? Its not even funny how bad his models are
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>>560828232
>Just her presence makes you run around like headless chicken for 30 seconds
Point proven. Now you and your team mates do that during team fight while the other team is shooting at you.
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>>560828232
>full defensive item mina with bats up manages to survive a gank
holy shit how does she do it
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>>560828232
>the most sluggish looking mina movement i've seen in a while
jesus is this what my mina gameplay looks like to a third party
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>>560828232
Immaculately crafted bait.
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>>560827710
>they technically have the same role
Honestly Silver doesn't have a solid role and that's her biggest issue.
Billy has something he does, he does it well, and you can build him around it without issue.
Silver's an M1 character with 2 spirit damage abilities, but then you ult and suddenly you're playing the only melee only character in the game and with much less consistent sustain/lifesteal than other characters meant to be up close, that practically heal themselves passively.
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>>560828232
>Just play high mobility character bro
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https://files.catbox.moe/whta2e.png
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>>560828624
You and your teammates can also just shoot and kill her, it's a big target, you can't miss.
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>>560828590
when the game releases
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>>560828889
>>>/trash/
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>>560828845
Which is why I said technically, it would be the disruptor role. But Silver simply doesn't have the toolset to accomplish this, especially not so late game. Like you said, she doesn't really have arole because she does not excel in any role due to her kit.
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>>560828378
Any other close ranged character would put 10000 rounds in that mina. Silver is literally useless if you're not standing still or running in the straight line.

>>560828632
>climbing on a ledge, dashing off the ledge and climbing on another ledge is something only mina can do.
that's why silvers eat your retarded ass.
>with bats up
if you had any awareness you would notice that her bats are on cooldown while she casually jukes entire duration of silver's ult.

>>560828624
>Now you and your team mates do that during team fight
we don't have to because by the time teamfight starts Silver has 300 hp and uses her 2 to disengage from the fight.

>>560828885
>2 stam char with no movement items and bats on cd is high mobility
lil bro...................
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>silver upplayers react to downplayer bait
>silver gets nerfed
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>>560829059
Upplayers will come up with any nonsense they can to deny reality, that clip shows how much of a joke silver's ult is. Silver had a better chance of killing Mina if she didn't put points into ult at all.
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where are the silver midplayers?
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>>560829195
Most people called downplayers are saying she's mid, though a lot agree her ult is a glorified heal, a shitty one at that.
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>tons of problems with the game
>SILVER THIS SILVER THAT PLEASE BUFF SILVER I'M NEVER GONNA SHUT UP ABOUT SILVER SILVER SILVER
I hate furfags so much
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Imagine wasting your token kemonomimi(with tail) slot on a useless southern drunk
Should've been a fox
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>>560828590
I think he's in a good spot balance-wise. Just needs to update his model and visuals.
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samefaggotry thread
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all me
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>>560829435
Please Yoshi, just admit that she was released prematurely and disable her. Delete her from the game until you make a compelling rework.
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>>560829435
Weebs deserve nothing but the rope
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>clip of two retards jumping around doing nothing
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>>560829602
Just revert her nerfs and she's fine
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>>560829621
This is the hardware I use. E6 btw.
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>>560806031
Calm down Mina!
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>shitpost
>bait
>bait
>lust image
>bait
>abrams image
>silver image
>shitpost
>how do i build this character
>bait
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Should I learn how to play Mina?
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>>560829643
THINK OF THE PROS AND STREAMERS
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How do I make seven player life miserable
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>>560828232
Dang Alchemist is crazy

>>560829643
>just revert the nerfs on the current most overpowered hero in the game
lol
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>>560829769
ask them what their first kiss was like
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>>560829745
what is there to learn, you click on someone and they take damage then press ult during a teamfight. she probably has the most boring abilities in the game next to mirage
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>>560829769
cut your dick off and tell him you are a woman
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>>560829398
Main character, sorry friend.
Also furtroons play Ivy, straight white men play Silver
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>>560829785
Weak bait
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What's the definitive meta build for Sinclair?
I've been going rabbitbot ultbot, but I don't know if this is effective.
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We got owned
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>>560830042
where's silver?
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>>560830042
uhm your curse and disarming hex?
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>>560830042
>All spiritslop beside grave
I can see why
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>>560829643
This
She was perfectly fine before they nerfed yet for the 6377th time
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I love building trophy collector because my souls go up even when I'm dead (average 7+ deaths per game)
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so the game is only enjoyable if you play with 5 other people? I always get the biggest gluesniffers on my fucking side while the other cunts coordination is always on fucking point
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>5 game loss streak where other lanes feed so hard early game we can never win a team fight and come back
i hope we never get any more updates with how fucking garbage the matchmaking has been with the influx of new players
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>>560822951
They made the recoil reset faster in GO a long time ago and it was pretty much unanimously considered a good change.
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I'm hardstuck pisshigh. Yoshi please nerf shiv.
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Warden max cuckcage really destroy all the mobility shitter
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>>560830214
I'm playing in oracle, solo
you either get shit teammates or shit enemies, hardly any inbetween
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>>560830378
pretty much the same except I rarely get shit enemies, they usually get carried by the others
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>>560826984
Mina has a lower WR than Silver. Unlike Silver, Mina has a negative winrate even in Eternus. Do you think Mina is a bad character?

For the record as well, since we're looking at winrates, Victor only has a .5% higher WR than Silver in Eternus 4+.
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>>560827483
I wanna be on Silver's ass instead wtf
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>>560829398
It's not my fault everyone wants to complain about a simple, honest wifwolf when she's done nothing to deserve it
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fun thread guys, let's post MORE SILVER
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I like Silver.
She's unjustly oppressed.
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The silver posting will continue until she is buffed
Treat it as a form of protest
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>>560830915
based
>>560830994
based
>>560831006
based
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>Decide to spectate silver game
>First one I open and see this
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>>560830220
They need 20-30 placement matches and having placement players should not impact your elo if you lose.
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>>560831173
>0-18-5
Impressive.
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How many Monty Python references do we have so far?
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>>560829398
But other problems are not fun to discuss and don't have cute wolf wife in the middle.
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>>560831173
Second one looks a bit better, but it seems they lost the lane?
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>>560831173
Potential woman...
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>>560829878
>w-white (lowercase) men fuck dogs, goy! Don't you want to be white???
Hello Rabbi Silverstein.
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>>560831535
>immediately jumps to depraved porn thoughts
The jew here is you, Moshe
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>silver "downplayers"
>silver's ult is pretty shit and it makes no sense for her human form to be better and the stats agree, she should be buffed or at the very least rebalanced, there's simply too many downsides and easy counterplay to her ult with very little upside, she was nerfed despite not being particularly strong due to kneejerk outrage
>silver upplayers
>UUHHHH SHES LE OP SHES SO STRONG MY PARASOCIAL STREAMER FRIEND SAID SO LOOK THEY PICKED HER IN ESPORTS SHE HAD BAD STATS BUT THAT PROVES SHES GOOD NERF HER NERF HER NOOOOOOW SHES THE BEST MOST OP HERO IN THE GAME WHO CARES ABOUT WINRATE OR COUNTERPLAY
Yeah, I'm thinking the upplayers are kind of retarded and wrong.
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>Playing Rem
>No wave prio on green lane where the urn is
>Start rotating from blue to green to help our Calico who wants to get the urn, nobody else is there
>He picks it up, immediately gets ambushed and Mo ulted with Lash and Drifter on top of him
>Nobody on our team is even on this side of the map so I instantly fuck off and run back towards blue lane to join up with teammates between blue and yellow
>Calico somehow manages to survive with ult and 200 HP
>Says in mic "Rem are you coming or what??? Help me" and gets all pissy
Not even intended as a "me unga team bunga" post really but I always wonder what people are expecting you to be able to do for them in those situations
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>>560831408
>She bought blood tribute
>Can't even tank 1 guy properly
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>>560831535
>>560831740
SOMEONE SAID SILVER
AWOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>560831831
I minimized to post this for 15 seconds as she was going to base and now she's dead...
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>>560831807
>what people are expecting you to be able to do for them in those situations
an instant save, multikill, and a free blowjob
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>>560831807
This game is full of retards who blame others for their own failings, it's a genre standard.
>Entire enemy team jumps one guy who's dicking around in their side of the map
>Team all rushes in one by one to (???)
>Proceeds the lose the 5v1v1v1v1
>"EERM, WHY WEREN'T YOU AT THE TEAMFIGHT???"
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Yeah, so anytime silver tries to attack someone metal skin immediately cucks her. And most times even if she lands her combo ult pops and she just awooos away.
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>>560831836
Where did you get that pic? Never seen it in game and I doubt anyone else has.
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>>560832405
2B?!
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When a character gets this many shitposters sincerely whining about them being weak 24/7 and begging for buffs, it's always a skill issue more than anything.
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>>560832431
It's a photo I took 2 seconds before getting the world's most nerve-wracking blowjob
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Ivy is too weak, please make her stoneform 3 times bigger
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>>560832456
Yamato
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>>560832518
>be skilled on hero
>hero still sucks
Skill issue alright
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when is the yamato maki mod so i can aura farm in game
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>>560831320
that's my FVARKIN teammate right there
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>>560832591
>be skilled on hero
Doubtful.
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Maybe Silver should consider Celeste's job offer and work in the side show. This ritual business and bounty hunting are not for the weakling like her.
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>>560832565
This, but unironically
Also nerf kudzu bomb
And air drop
AND GIVE BACK DOUBLE TETHER
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>game drags to the hour mark
>apollo becomes a mosquito that deals no damage
get fucked nerd
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>>560832189
>Team all rushes in one by one to (???)
>Proceeds the lose the 5v1v1v1v1
seen this happen way too much here in Ritualist....
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>>560823459
your teammates will have the audacity to flame you for not feeding with them
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>>560832681
Why should she go in for comedy? With a retarded life like hers, she's a perfect fit for serious drama
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Silver should marry me.
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>>560833069
Holliday...
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I know I'm also bad but I'd love it if I could stop getting partnered with passive players that just stand beside the guardian and stare at the enemy
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The biggest change Yoshi should do right now this very moment is giving midboss some kind of name.

I'm so fucking tired of hearing "let's go mid" and having to wonder if people mean mid lane or mid boss. especially when retards ping mid lane in panic and they click on fucking midboss and all i hear is "lets go mid lets go mid" but actually it's just whole enemy team pushing our walker or lonely vindicta raping some brainlet and he wants someone to come and watch him die
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>>560833195
They should change the jungle and add actual diversity to the camps
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>>560833321
>add actual diversity
fuck off with your DEI shit you woke gay homo faggot
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>>560833359
kek
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>>560833359
I want nigger camps in the jungle
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>>560831831
Blood tribute is a sleeper buy for annoying debuffs
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Guys you don't understand... Silver is top 8, one of the strongest heroes in the game!
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>>560832518
Silver was always the most popular of the new batch when total number of actual unique people is the deciding factor, which it is for character popularity, the concentrated votes of furry neets and ecelebs does not change that.
Silver first got nerfed before the playerbase even got a chance to adapt to her and ever since she's been the target of 74IQ theorycrafting from retarded tourmament players that swear she's broken while never ever showing it in practice, just theory that's had over a month to be proven and every single except in one (1) match where she did well, from over a month of being first pick/ban.
And because of those retards the character has been nerfed from strong -> balanced -> weak.

No shit people are gonna talk about it, it also highlights Yoshi's terrible balancing philosophy where he just listens to the unfounded whine of "pros", takes that as divine truth (every single player has character biases) and then kneejerk reacts by nerfing whatever those players are sperg out about that particular month.
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>>560833643
MY WIFE
SO FUCKING STRONG
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Silver is allowed to do so much, like... Umm.... Help me out here guys
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i dont understand why yamato goes torment pulse and no spirit pen, she gets fucked by any spirit resist
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>>560833643
>>560833748
Are these people retarded or something?
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>>560833751
it procs spirit damage effects constantly so your healbane suppressor mystic vuln etc are always applied
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>>560833748
>the """"pro""""" fag is tired of hearing people call silver weak
Oh woe is him
I think I'm starting to develop pro fatigue
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Silver posts are incredibly boring please get new material
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>>560833751
you do go escalating on some builds
on some builds its more important to stay alive and not get niggered by heroes like mo & krill and kevlin
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>>560833643
>>560833748
I swear I don't play the same game as these people
90% of the community just parrot opinions instead of actually forming their own.
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>>560833748
>silver isn't weak because... holliday is weak
?????
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>>560833751
>>560833827
also i forgot to mention because youre a frontliner and torment pulse gives you hp
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>>560833842
What would you suggest
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>>560833748
what the fuck does spirit res have to do with lasso
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Who the fuck is getting spawn camped by Silver!?
WHAT RANK ARE THESE PEOPLE IN!?
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>>560833847
>>560833896
why cant i play burst yamato instead of power slash and afk in the enemy's face for 6 seconds yamato
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>>560833879
>I swear I don't play the same game as these people
You're right, you don't.
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>>560833946
Eternus 7.
No actually I mean eternus 8!
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>>560833820
>>560833879
>>560833893
They either have an ulterior motive, or they just live in a different universe.
Like I could believe Silver MIGHT be strong when a team is playing around her, but in a solo queue? Fuck no.
But they control the opinions. The devs listen to them, not us.
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Why are people shitting themselves over a ~50% winrate character?
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>>560834072
Because they nerfed her for no reason.
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Hmmmm I should play a new hero I never tried before today, maybe it's my turn to be the feeding retard for once
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>>560834072
An excellent question
I still wish I knew why people say she's so much better than she is, but they can never articulate themselves
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>>560833748
>>560833643
This is from the official Valve Deadlock discord, by the way. You can join using the link in the game. They take more feedback from there than official forims
Silver is cooked, sorry silver mains. Time to switch to a different character.
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>>560832770
there is probably some pivot I need to fuck with
maybe melee with max parry
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i feel like im in a fever dream watching these shitlow timmies larp that they know better than people in eternus 6
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>>560833930
Mirage that actually got unreasonably nerfed, at least every few matches I'm against one it's an easy win
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>>560834223
Ugh shes so strong at least top eight
She can spawn camp you...
How can you say shes weak I mean just look at holliday I don't get it...
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>>560805835
Why you keep trying to turn the straightest woman in the game into a fag?
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>>560834339
I'd rather trust a regular Timmy than a leech and a hack who's trying to make a career out of playing a videogame "professionally"
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>>560834339
I don't particularly care what you think, unfortunately. I'm right.
>>560834349
I agree. Mirage was very very unreasonably nerfed. I think he deserves some buffs too, at the very least tornado should get its original potency back while still keeping the whole recast thing. I also think I'd like to see the old version of his ult return, I'm not very fond of what they did to his and Ivy's mobility-related ults in general.
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>>560834339
I am unironically smarter than eternus 6 players
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>>560834349
I agree that Mirage got fucked up for no reason, it's just that pros don't put him in the spotlight as much as they do with Silver so his status is barely discussed, he was never popular before it to begin with.
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>am in ritualist
>enjoy playing all kinds of heroes but carrying is really difficult because im just not that knowledgeable about all the heroes yet so I play them subpar
>still unsure about proper itemisation too
>teams are usually all to afk and too farm focused and games drag on forever so 1v6 can become way too hard sometimes
>look at the roster and just thought to maybe play a ganker/snowballer and steamroll my games and force them to end quicker
>tried drifter for the first time, only know how he works on a basic level
>currently 6 winstreak with him and got MVP 3 times out of the 6 games
He's really comfy to play actually. His gun feels good and he seems to trade really well in lane. Especially once you have your ultimate up you can just walk into a sidelane and kill people, hell even without its easily doable. Once Toxic Bullets is online you just do so much damage.
I wish I knew how to carry games on a hero like Graves
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>>560808082
Most in game models do. Look at Paige in the menu, dorky hottie. In game she has the forehead of a neanderthal with a weird mouth.
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>>560834427
if you saw the average inhouse skill level you would think otherwise
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>>560834339
Pros in an unreleased game are autistic spergs spouting opinions based on nothing
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>>560809736
You forgot how Celeste and Apollo still are bullshit to play against even after the nerfs.
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>>560830220
it won't fucking stop
i'm not even in archon i'm oracle what is this god awful matchmaking
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>>560834628
I don't give a fuck what power tripping elitists have to say. I'd rather listen to a regular average player
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honestly this general deserves silverfags being really annoying since ivyfags get as much of a pass as they do
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>>560834748
Ivytroons get shit on whenever they show their face, deservedly
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>>560833643
NO NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SHE'S SHIV-TIER BROKEN!!!
How???
Uhh.... vibes and feelings! She just FEELS strong ya know!
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>>560833665
Just drugged up addy zoomers believing they unlocked their inner third eye.
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>over 100 ping
>denies become impossible if they try to last hit
>parries now require clairvoyance
hate this shit
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>>560834902
just unlock your yomi bro
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>>560811712
I want Glork...
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>>560834947
My gamer chair isn't good enough to unlock my third eye.
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>>560811712
incredibly based of valve to parry the DEIslop mix
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>>560833665
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't DOTA2 also like this until recent years when the pro scene started to lose steam, but it also became super popular in China?
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Why exactly is Silver strong?
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BLEED
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>>560834808
I like that hero too.
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>>560835037
i wonder if people still buy gamer chairs, hopefully it's become common knowledge that a good office chair will shit all over any repurposed bucket seat race car chair that's been upcharged to double the price
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>>560835052
Valve still added a They/Them, a bisexual snake, Silver and Celeste are most likely fags, Calico is Jane Concord, and reddit actively wants to make Paige anything but straight.
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>>560835106
Because a """pro""" player said so, okay? Don't ask questions
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>>560835165
you're coping so hard about silver
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This is the character that "pros" swear up and down is broken and OP, she's never even broke a winrate higher than 52% and was objectively, numerically, provably BALANCED before.
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>>560835106
She spawn camps, don't you know it?
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>>560835165
Silver is objectively hetero.
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>>560835106
>Why exactly is Silver strong?
Tall, wiry, probably has supernatural werewolf strength.
Also big muscles in wolf form.
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>>560835165
you still can't deny that deadlock is still miles away from a concord tier game like that
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Ivy has a crazy kit wtf
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>>560835165
>and reddit actively wants to make Paige anything but straight.
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT REDDIT WANTS
I'M NOT ON REDDIT, I'M HERE
PAIGE, SILVER AND CELESTE ARE ALL STRAIGHT, AND REDDIT CAN SUCK A FAT ONE (BECAUSE THEY'RE GAY)
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This is silver's gun dps with all the oranges she usually gets at max boon.
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Magic carpet mo & krill is the most niggerlicious thing I’ve ever seen
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>>560835217
Pick rate is a better indication than a win rate.
The matchmaking is forcing 50%, and you could also win thanks to team mates while barely contributing.
But the pick rate shows how popular a hero is in the eyes of players and how strong it is, or fun it is.
I mean just compare Silver's pick rate with Victor, ivy, or wraith
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>>560835106
In my experience, Silver deals a lot of damage early game ( if the player has good aim, it's almost as irritating as Apollo)
Her ability to slow + block stamina usage, really bursty shotgun and wolf form can be a clutch sometimes with the extra health. Admitelly I do think her ult is garbage because you can just run away and shot her.
I think she is balanced. Anons started comparing her to Victor and that is true, the difference between them is that she is useful early/mid game while Victor is completely useless these stages and shines late game / 30k power spike
t. Archon 5
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>>560835401
>dps
meme metric when the point is unloading with her 1
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>>560835424
What about cheat death doorman
>>560835429
>The matchmaking is forcing 50%,
Why then is its failure to do so in one direction or another not useful information?
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>>560835401
This is pocket's gun at max boon with same items.
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>>560835543
glocket is kino for a reason
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>>560830220
I'm at 8 loss streak. I'm Ritualist but currently playing "pity" Seeker games.
And it's only been getting worse and worse. Every fucking match the "my first game ever" triple stack is on my team and going something absurd like 0/17/3. Send help and make it stop, I don't want to play fucking 1v11 hypercarries, I don't bloody like 'em.
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>>560835401
>>560835543
You only actually need point blank to reach the same number on pocket btw.
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>>560835106
Movement disable, % health damage, decent burst combo, low cooldown ult that pings her back up to high health with high lifesteal and a disarm.
Her damage is pretty high, she can lock you down well and commit a lot of stamina to close while getting a refund to escape or juke once she hits you. In a trade she generally wins if her ult goes off as getting most of your health back trumps most other ults in a back alley slap fight.
Laning against her sucks ass.
It sucks her ult triggers whenever it feels like so it's often inopportune, I wouldn't mind if it was redesigned to go off on demand.. She's alright, isn't insane but isn't dogshit.
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How long does it take for rank to actually decay? I am basically stuck in Archon 4 with a very poor winrate (game won't let me derank), so I think I'll just stop playing until I'm back to low Emissary or Ritualist.
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Warden might as well not have an ult, people just walk away from it
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Just played against an aimbotting Haze, I'm renewing my hatred against Russians from my dota 2 days
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>>560835429
>I mean just compare Silver's pick rate with Victor, ivy, or wraith
Silver's pickrate is right below Victor's. She's also one of the few characters that purely got nerfed so, regardless of strength, it's no surprise other characters are getting more attention.
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>>560835683
OK now include 8% of the target's healthbar.
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>>560835740
Build for sanic speed and power walk(float) towards them.
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>>560835543
If silver had glocket's dps she would literally vaporize anyone with her 2>1 combo.
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>>560835814
But they just move away?
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>>560835217
>Silverfags cry endlessly that this character got gutted
>WR dropped by 1% (still above 50%)
So, does this mean Silverfags are just being whiny bitches or that she was hard carrying tons of shitters and was in fact genuinely busted before?
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>>560830220
I keep playing supports cause surely the chance of getting a haze that can press 4 is higher than getting a support that knows to build curse or disarm or any active disabling ability.

Unfortunately most fucking people I get on my team can't figure out to press 4, and I had the pleasure of watching a teammate spam crouch in a bush watching an entire end of match team fight to decide who won.
Uninjured, all abilities up.
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>>560835792
Do you also want me to include this?

>>560835907
Silverfags are mad because niggers and addy addicted "pro"s are claiming she's op and more nerfs are coming because they cry so much.
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>>560835907
>that she was hard carrying tons of troons and was in fact genuinely busted before?
This one, which is why her winrate gets worse as you go down in ranks
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>>560835697
Agreed on most points, but just buy some anti-heal for goodness' sake
Even just a healbane turns her 30% missing HP emergency heal into nothing you can really work with
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>>560835993
More like that people learned after a month that you can in fact just walk away from her instead of standing still.
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>>560836054
Why have the top ranks not learned something Seekers have by now?
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>>560836054
Weird how only low ranks with bad movement know this secret technique and not any of the eternus players.
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>>560835967
That's not his gun and doesn't get better with gun items.
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>>560835907
>silver
>hard carrying
>hero who had 47% winrate until recently
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>>560836087
>>560836103
SeekerGOD knows how to call a fight when he sees a big scary wolf running his way
The eternigger thinks he DESERVES to win 1v1 and manfights the stove
it's just that simple
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>>560836087
>>560836103
A lot of them refuse to buy counter items for her, but the "pro"s are adderall huffing faggots with massive ego's. What do you think they are going to do when the big bad wolf comes?
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>>560836192
>>560836254
I would call this bait because no one can be this delusional, then I remember most silverfags think they are actually women...
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>>560836284
That was unnecessarily mean when I'm only telling you the truth. Be nicer and less egotistical next time, eternoid, if that's something that's possible for you at all.
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>>560836254
Ah, true, true, seeker players are well known for their wise purchases.
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>>560836117
Neither does % of current health, and you mentioned Silver's slamfire so I mentioned pocket's skill that also influences the gun.
Stop being a disingenuous faggot.
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>>560835452
>I think she is balanced. Anons started comparing her to Victor and that is true, the difference between them is that she is useful early/mid game while Victor is completely useless these stages and shines late game / 30k power spike
I guess you call this a general game balance thing but it doesn't feel fair at all since early game matters very little. With the new bases changes, games go on for a lot longer so that benefits carries like victor and fucks over supposed early game bullies (Silver).
If she had been released before the patron update maybe it would have felt better idk since games ended around 25-30 minutes back then.
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>>560835236
That hasn't stopped people from trying to get Valve to acknowledge her and Paige, the character who pretty much screams "I LOVE COCK!", as bi or lesbian.
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>>560836117
Imagine the seethe if Silver started with negative resist like Pocket does KEK
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>>560836346
Anon, in this very thread you've got a guy weighing in saying her emergency wolf heal gives her back almost full health.
Even if that were true, there's very obvious and cheap solutions to such a problem that apparently haven't occurred to him, or you, or anyone else.
Let's not be silly.
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>>560836346
Thing is, I don't know what are you talking about seekers. They cry that she is op just as much as eternigger "pro"s, they are the redditors after all.
Can you get your retardation straight please?
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Nu
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>>560836450
>>560836450
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>>560836353
>but +5 weapon damage
meh
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>>560836192
>manfight silver in wolf form
>win
It's that easy
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>>560835967
>pocket gets +5 gundamage
>abrams t3 is 1.5 (less pellets)
Awesome!!!!!
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>>560814753
I just want curated full outfits like OW, tf2/dota2 has always been cancerous due to player freedom since the majority just try to look obnoxious.
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>>560833420
>Hang on let me clear the Ancient NIGGER camp real quick.
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>>560831320
>>560832647
Running egg too
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>>560826573
Mad you can't get your bullshit smoke 3-4Ks anymore, Gla1ve?
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>lack of silver buffs killed 4chan



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