#222: Two Many EditionPrevious Thread: >>558725237General for all things Kirby including the games, novels, artwork, and anime series.>NewsKirby Air Riders out now: https://youtu.be/Fs6fYLRfFMgKirby Air Riders: Development Insights by Masahiro Sakurai now available through Nintendo's website: https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/by-director-mr-sakurai-kirby-air-riders-development-insights-part-4/The Sound of Kirby Cafe 3 online preorders open through ValueMall (available through Play Asia or proxy services for overseas shipping), shipping within Japan April 24th: https://valuemall.site/products/kbci-00032eaAir Riders event "Pulse-Pounding Air Ride!" starts March 18: https://twitter.com/KirbyAirRiders/status/2032124458459148558>LinksOfficial Kirby Website: https://www.kirby.jp/Official Kirby Twitter: https://twitter.com/Kirby_JPOfficial Kirby Air Riders Twitter: https://twitter.com/KirbyAirRidersKirby Novel Translations Masterpost: https://www.tumblr.com/nyaagolor/653089595149434880/kirby-novel-translations-masterpostKirby Anime Translation Masterpost: https://operationhoshinokaabii.tumblr.com/watchKirby Wiki: https://wikirby.com/wiki/Kirby_Wiki>Kirby Starter Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/pp1nhh.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/hngeck.jpg>/kdg/ Writefag Masterposthttps://pastebin.com/Mv0FdBx6>/kdg/ Pixel Worldhttps://ourworldofpixels.com/kdg>Elfilisanon's Cave Story mod demohttps://files.catbox.moe/w5yxl5.zip>Anime Box Set Booklet and Storyboardhttps://pastebin.com/V053742E>Japanese Fangame Collectionhttps://files.catbox.moe/62u3lm.zip
Evil Nova bros, its fucking over
TWO.
>>560823772hackurai does it again
>>560823862But there are three....
>>560823772who is this mysterious malicious force, it boggles the mind.
>>560823968If anything I feel like it would be Nightmare fucking with the wish before it reaches Nova.
>>560823968cute...
>>560823968fuckass grape just keeps coming back because getting nuked wasn't enough for him was it
>>560823968It’s not Marx you blithering retard, he’s not *that* encompassing.
>>560824379I wouldn't put it past Hackurai to just say "It's Marx again!"
>>560824182IT WAS ME AUSTIN.>>560824379I wasn't implying that.
>No K64 characters as playable characters in KARs>But here's a 02 boss fightI'm still confused
>>560827665 (me)Actually, I think I know the reasonMaybe they just didn't wanna risk potential upskirts
>>560827798>Maybe they just didn't wanna risk potential upskirts>only female racers are Lalala (orb) and Susie (tube)...you're probably right but it's still odd the crystal got in over any of the "main" 64 cast as an assist
>>560827798>>560827942>risk potential cast upskirtsI don't buy it, they can easily just use a shadowy void cover or just give them bloomers, ribbon fairy was in such a perspective in 64
>>560828765>ribbon fairy was in such a perspective
>>560828765>shadowy void coverPretty sure CERO and the like would still take offense
>>560828823have you not played the final boss in 64
>>560828892>Pretty sure CERO and the like would still take offenseThe shadowy void cover censor has been in a lot of games without issue. Which is why it's infamous.
>>560827798the only 64 characters in the game were magman, 02, and a crystal without the fairy that always holds them, i don't think upskirts were the problem
>>560829165Plus star allies had ribbon and nobody batted an eye.
>>560823968This minigame character will NEVER be a main villain.
>>560827665Can't risk Adeleine taking Rocky the Rock's spot. That's the character with the bigger fanbase.
>>560829678Her ass wasnt facing the camera at all times
>>560830734couldn't they just... make her sit upright? make her dress longer to keep the underwear less obvious? 64 shows her from behind in the opening cutscene anyway, so i don't think shimomura cared...
>>560827798>>560827665>Flopworlds is adding another loliThey literally have no excuse, if that, Air Riders can do it too and better.
>>560823772Ticky tocky
The death race even feels like the way Air Ride mode was originaly meant to be played. There's so much variety and flare between picks now and all the original tryhard picks for the mode like Rick in a Wheelie Scooter are useless. Also I saw a Starman on a Paper Star in the first race...he didn't last 10 seconds.
Had a fun nebula belt race
Just killed 3 Ricks in a single race. Battle Chariot+DDD combo will instagib him unless he's on a heavy machine. He didn't even got the chance to say goodbye to his kangaroo wife.
>>560823772You don't play the "he's actually neutral" card when he went out of his way to screw Zorah.
>>560849478That was ALSO the work of the perfidious Malicious Force Jones, everyone's favorite developer interview exclusive character.
Villain that wants to kill all mortals so that there won't be more monsters like Dark Matter.
>>560846638>Wheelie Scooter Rick>tryhardIn Yellow rank maybe. Scooter is mediocre as hell, almost no actually skilled Air Ride player will use it. Good Ricks usually play Slick, Bulk or Bike.
>>560846638I saw a Paper Marx and I think he was just doing it for the funsies
>>560829438>he forgot about plugg again
>>560827665>No Painter Loli, in fact no Lolis in general>Zero can show up... as a digital construct lmfao>No Elfilin>No Fluff>Helpers to Hero V2: Electric Boogaloo>What? You want me to use modern Kirby chars? FINEEEEEE I'll reuse models from Star Allies>DLC nonexistent>HATSSSSSS>AMIIBOOOOOOOOS>MY SPECIAL DEDEDE OC TURNS INTO A LION TO SYMBOLIZE ME ESCAPING FROM NINTENDO! WOE IS ME >No Brown or Shadow color palette for Kirby; you MUST use the super duper special pink color to have the Ultra Sword special>Also btw I saw you guys having fun making jokes about Nova being evil / retarded. That's wrong now, he was being manipulated. Bye.Has a fandom ever been spat on as hard as this before? Every decision was clearly made out of IMMENSE spite.
>>560823772
>>560862747The way of the auteur is to feel your work is perpetually misunderstood and to try and make everyone see things the way you do. Which is also the way of the autist, as it happens. Sakurai should team up with Kojimbo to make something truly incomprehensible.
>>560827665 well no standard dee got in
>>560866026>Sakurai should team up with Kojimbo to make something truly incomprehensible.Sakurai, Kojimbles, Yoko Taro, Suda, and Swery walk into a bar...
>>560866026Kojimbo fled like a bitch from the frenchies during the game awards, he even left a trail of tears like those animes he hates. >>560846638The Scooter is the best machine for Susie... aaaaand probably no one else.
>>560868204>Kojimbo fled like a bitch from the frenchies during the game awards, he even left a trail of tears like those animes he hates.Hey I'm not here to argue he isn't a hack, I'm just saying he's higher on his own farts than any other big name dev since (maybe) Phil Fish. At least similarly arrogant faggots like Sakurai and the Platinum Games guy still make gameplay their focus.
>>560868204>spend years working on game>game gets completely ignored because a few frogs got some Chinese loans and decided to pretend they were a smol indie team (over 100 people worked on Turdy Tree)Poor Kojumbler. Well, poor anyone other than the frogs. Bastards.
>>560869237My favorite part is that when he finally got the money to do the game he always dreamt of, he stole the premise from a Yoshi game and the core mecanic of the gameplay from another Yoshi game.
>>560867541and why don't we throw in some special guests too?
>>560862747>Has a fandom ever been spat on as hard as this before?Advance Wars got a lame remake and Kid Icarus Uprising isn't allowed to get a port or direct sequel due to development woes from Sakurai on top of purposely making people hate the IP by making it overabundant then giving back very little by the next game.
>>560874783How about Golden Sun, the series where one mid entry permanently doomed Camelot to just making sports games til the end of time and not even being allowed to throw in references to their own work? Mario Hoops was allowed to have White Mage, Black Mage and Moogle because Square made it but Camelot isn't so much as allowed to squeeze a djinn into the crowd textures on Mario Tennis.
>>560875389Golden Sun was taken out back under direct order of Square who didn’t want another rpg competitor.>source?It was revealed to me in a dream.
>>560862747>Has a fandom ever been spat on as hard as this before? Boy, do you have ANY idea how good Kirby has it compared to others. Let's beging with my favorite example Rayman.>Original and charming 2D platformer from the 90s could keep up with Mario, DK, Sonic, Earthworm Jim and Megaman >Mascot of a new and plucky studio named Ubisoft >Fairly good and lucrative jump to 3D, a step that killed most of his peers >Mascot status stolen by a high exect test audience project called AssCreed >Own IP highjacked by another audience test project about some extremely annoying rabbits >Mutiple years of nothing (like 10) until gets picked as the ginea pig for an engine that makes 2D paintings come to life and yes, Shadman worked on it>Rayman's back baby and he even humiliated 2D Mario, something that the blue roadkill never could do >Nintendo was so impressed they even paid for the exclusivity of the next game also more people jerk off to the fairies of that game than to any other fairy ever (sorry Ripple)>For the WiiU>The WiiU game did very bad even if it was better than the last >Back to playing second fiddle to the rabbits>Butt of all jokes about sellots in the Far Fry cartoon >Final time being seen on a game is as a DLC in Mario and Rabits TTS game...as a DLC character...and a musical number about how his life sucks >Ubisoft is on the red and selling their IPs, nobody is willing to even make an offer for Rayman so this might be where his story ends I dare anyone here to find a fandom more miserable and spat upon by the IP holder than Rayman.
>>560875389Shining series was better lil tim, gotta let it go.
>>560877902>>Ubisoft is on the red and selling their IPs, nobody is willing to even make an offer for Rayman so this might be where his story endsI think Atari is handling the physical for the Anniversary edition, imagine if somehow things end with Rayman under the same roof as fuckin Bubsy
>>560881201Gaming as a medium has been floundering alot the last few years, it just isn't sustainable to keep things going the way they have been.
>>560877301That's bullshit but I believe it>>560880568Yeah, all those Shining cameos lately really make up for the lack of Golden Sun references... I was so excited when John Shininginthedarkness was DLC for Smash
>>560877902Yeah, kirby is probably the easiest platforming franchise to be a fan of besides maybe mario, at least since the 2010s, there have been barely any droughts and no major stinkers or games that divide the fandom. Compare that to>crash>sonic>spyro>sly cooper>jax and daxter>donkey kong>wario>megaman>pac man>rayman>littlebigplanet>ratchet and clank>banjo kazooie>conker>starfy>yoshi>ape escape>psychonauts>super meat boy>earthworm jim
>>560886486>probably the easiest platforming franchise to be a fan ofNot if you care for any of the characters outside of the main 4.
>>560877902>Butt of all jokes about sellots in the Far Fry cartoonThe most tragic thing is that jewbisoft hired Balak to work on le gritty lowbrow French cartoon when he could have did something cooler.Also no Betilla tiddies.
>>560886486Yoshi is the easiest fix over there. His only problem is that Nintendo gave him the horrible job is being baby's first videogame when Yoshi's moveset could and should push him the hardest of all 2D platformers. He's a Ferrari, stuck on a city without roads like Norway.
>>560886486Donkey Kong, Mega Man and Psychonauts escaped this fate
>>560889258Err Megaman might be in a "worst than dead situation">Mobile game was sabotaged from the top because they didn't like that it made more money than the Street Fighter one >Money stolen to shill and bloat Street Fighter VI >Censored games in the collections because Capcom is woke and Megaman was mostly made by people they hate now like IntiCreates >NFTs>Capcom will whore the IP to the worst people like to Warner Brothers to make a cartoon where Zero is a black girl or all the horrible Sonic crossovers (that one hurts the most because there's a lot of bad blood between those fandoms)>Capcom went out of it's way to overwork the last director it had to an almost early grave just out of spite>Only gets new stuff to spite Coonman or to wash away Capcom's fuck ups, yes this is why they have a game in the works >What made the IP florish was it's willingness to experiment with new sagas, now nothing but Classic is seen as profitable and even that one was defanged by Capcom's (I shit you not this is how they are called) diversity commisarsAs I said, Sakurai's favoritism is the most first world problem a fandom could have.
>>560891056Mega Man 12 is worth more than your life
>>560886736Even us Dark Matter Saga epicurians got some love with Star Allies>>560889258Mega Man is worse off than anything, stuck under niggercattle Capcom's AAA slop
Stephen Merchant as Marx in the Kirby movie
i really think crystal shards 2 is probably going to be the next 3d game if the next mainline isn't a 2d game
>>560899746We already had Crystal Shards 2, it was called Star Crossed World
i die a lot in this air riders event
>>560907940Which combo are you using?
>>560907940I just let them take the lead at the start. It's such a non stop brawl that unless you have a very heavy combo you will lose 50 to 80 % of your HP in the first 20 seconds of a race. Better let them kill one another, pick up a Plasma or a Fire and just finish them from behind.
One who spreads death and destruction must accept the pursuit. He will never be far from either. But what could be more beautiful than doing work that puts your soul at risk? Because that's what it means to be alive.
I figured out who is the true evil force behind Nova:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyuiujk1Sl0&list=RDQyuiujk1Sl0&start_radio=1
The true evil force is a malevolent being known only as… Dick C Normus…
>>560919518I thought it was hugh Jass.
>T-There's a secret villain controlling nova>No I won't have it as a unlockable story in game>Won't even have a hint to it ingame>(Proceeds to stop all Kirby air riders updates)>I'll tell you in this random blurb! >I probably won't even make another kirby game for like 3 decades, but think about that secret villain i won't elaborate onHackurai...I...
>>560921334sakurai doing this a few weeks after the updates got frozen really is a kick in the pants, why would hackurai pride himself saying "THE KIRBY GAME IS FINISHED" for months then have this extra "lore" in a secret vault outside the game
>>560921581this is robobo miiverse all over again...>>560889258mega man isn't in a particularly GOOD state, what with new games only coming out every five years... and the compilations skip the oddity titles for some reason... and the street fighting is more important to them...but the games still exist, you can still play them, people are still making fangames. that's something, i suppose...
>>560907940I got good results with the hop star, it's reasonably bulky and lets you escape hairy situations while everyone below you is killing each other.
>>560923238>but the games still exist, you can still play them, people are still making fangames. that's something, i suppose...Nigga you just described the upsides of SonicBeing "Sonic with less official games" is not a great place to be
>>560923720blood for the blood god.
King Dedede
>>560924848Mega Man can claim a past of glory and a promise of good game if they were to ever be made. Sonic had like 34 years of stinker after stinker and the only people backing that up like to eat shit so much they make 98% of the scat community on the internet.
>somehow Kirby ended up making a far more aggresive and deathly race war game than Twisted Metal
>>560910246Rick w/ warpstar
>>560952083 why is this model so fucked up dude
>>560947457>race wardon't.... call it that..............
>>560955619u like
>>560955724I'll call it whatever I want fuccboihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stjOxJuZfx4
how would the events of steel ball run change if they had air ride machines instead of horses
>>560955619Optimization, unironically
>Post "mario is better than sonic" on /sthg/>Post "sonic is better than mario" on /smbg/MwahahahahaI shall tear these generals apart and NO ONE shall be happy but MEAND THEY DESERVE TO BE UNHAPPY FOR BEING SUCH CORPO BOOTLICKING AUTISTIC SHITHEADS
>>560964156Well anon I just think that's rather mean>>560964156
>>560964329And? They deserve it
>>560965029
>>560964667I think it's uncalled for and rather rude
pancakes for magolor :)
>>560932279>imageSakurai could easily tie his newest lore to Void if he wasn't such a biased fuck.
i wish i could fly around in skyah irl on a real air ride machine
>>560967067So you think he's the kind of guy who puts syrup on pancakes and if so what flavor?
>>560891056>there's a lot of bad blood between those fandoms)I'm sickened, but curious.
>>560967058They deserve it for constantly flamewarring themselves
>>560960934They would drop the pretense and start killing each other from the moment the flag moves.
>>560968206Honestly sounds like schizo ramblings man.
>>560968206It's not that hard to understand, both sides stand at opposite sides of every argument. For example; >great games that get shit vs games that get everything they could ask for >side that will turn on the company that owns their thing if they fail vs the biggest collection of shill one could hope for >Absolute fear of a Netflix or movie adaptation because they know how hard it will destroy the thing they love vs the biggest Hollywood slop slurpers since the Kojima fandom collapsedAnd that's just the tip of the iceberg.
>>560891056>all the horrible sonic crossoversWhat are you talking about? There were two. One was generally considered really good, and one was generally considered dogshit.>>560968206The fandoms don't hate each other at all. They barely have any reason to interact. All I've ever seen is mutual sympathy because of Worlds Unite indirectly killing both their comics.
>>560978004ian flynn floundered on mega man, and i'm glad he never got to write kirby.
>>560945278Well you got me there.>>560964156/sthg/ is too busy raging about people posting western sonic media to care about Mario/smbg/ is too busy seething about the movie to care about Sonic>>560967109>sakurai could easily care about parts of the franchise that he didn't inventI think you will find that that is the single hardest thing for him to do.>>560978213TBQH I enjoyed Archie Mega Man more than Megamix/Gigamix up until the crossovers, and even the first crossover had its merits.
>>560978004No both were seen as bad but one of those had the Sonic fanbase hyping it up. Also yes they do stand on the opposite side in every debate possible. >New Sonic show from Netflix >/sthg/ oh great more slop to slup>New Mega Man show from Netflix >/mmg/ oh great we are about to get Castlevania'd... for the second time.
>>560980680I thought /stg/ fucking HATED Prime
Spell of Ragebait: Starfy, Pac-Man, and Zelda are ALL than Kirby.
What machines have you guys made? i've been after any Frieren and Teto machines i could find
>>560983968Is King D-Mind meant to be Dark Mind possessing Shadow Dedede?
>>560983968Only things that I doubt anybody here have heard of. Mostly from Balster Master Zero.
>>560978604>seething about the movieWhy? I'm going to see it in a few weeks with my folks and it looks much better than the first.
>>560989636Woke girlboss misandrist generic hollywood illumination SLOP! It RUINED the iconic and classic character Wart by putting him in a casino!Or so I've been told by the thread schizo(s?), it looks cute and I was very pleased to see SMB2 characters other than Shy Guy Bobomb and Birdo returning for the first time in a long time. Hoping to see my nigga Tri-Clyde.
>>560992804>spoilerMario 2 actually Mario Advance was one of my first Marios many many years ago and it gave me a soft spot for a lot of what we've seen here so far, so I'm right there with you. I guess that's what they meant by "deep cuts" back when it was first announced.>Hoping to see my nigga Tri-ClydeCrossing my fingers too, anon.
>>560982894Sonic prime is just boring and obnoxious, the boom show at least had some funny lines.nothing will beat the GOAT that is PINGAS
>>560989636They blackwashed Yoshi. He even aims his eggs sideways now.
>>560993583The original Sonic cartoons had it nailed man. AOSTH, SATAM... even Underground had its moments.
>>560993892underground had some QUALITY animation.
>>560993583AoSTH was genuinely just Looney Tunes but with a hedgehog that said "gotta speed keed", never took itself seriously unless it was trying to tell kids not to ride washing machines, and it was fantastic for it. SatAM was always the lesser of the two in my eyes even though most people seem to have the opposite opinion.
Kirby?
>>560994661I think SatAM was just trying too hard to be BTAS without understanding what made BTAS great.The same thing happened with Ninja turtles infamous "red sky" seasons.
>>560994661SATAM adds a little more drama and a little more Ferngully to it, has more of an ensemble cast. I think it will depend heavily on whether you like Robotnik as a comical bumbler, or you like the moodier, more oppressive atmosphere lent by SATAM's megacities and legions of swatbots (who have a sick ass design). Personally I love them both and think they reflect the peak of Sonic both as a comedy and taking itself more seriously, respectively, and Jaleel White nails the role in both cases.
>>560994965THEM CHIPS ARE FOR KIRBYAND I AM KIRBYTHAT MEANS THEM CHIPS ARE FOR ME.
>>560994965KIRBY KIRBY THAT'S THE NAME YOU SHOULD KNOW!
>>560995203I'd argue SATAM wasn't that serious either when you consider pic related
>>560995052>>560995203Oh, don't get me wrong, I still liked SatAM quite a bit. It's more a testament to how much I fucking LOVED Adventures than anything. (Oh, and second anon, you're right on the money, its hammy overacting loser take on Robotnik is three quarters of why I prefer it, kek)
>>560994965Cunchadetumadreee!!!
>>560995513Kino... take me back. This is classic 4chan core, anybody who hates this should be banned for being underage (tn: younger than me).
>>560995683I actually did own the book that came from at one point in time.which Kirby character could we meme into the "no fun allowed robot"
>>560995971Rick if we go by gameplay, Metaknight by lore.
>>560995971Same hereMetaKnight, absolutely.
>>560995971HR-H is the one that comes to mind, but Meta Knight might fit better given the events of Revenge.
>Go buy the Meta Knight Air Riders amiibo (sold out surprisingly fast here but apparently local store had specifically 1 left in store)>The box feels more cumbersome to handle than the Bandana Dee one>Get home>Side by side...somehow I get the impression Sakurai's wanted to do a Meta Knight amiibo with a big ass flowing cape for a long while because goodness it feels excessive. I do like how they painted the gradients on the Dark Star, looks pretty sleek. Now I'm wondering just how fuckhueg the Legendary Machine amiibos'll be, guess that'd explain why they're the first ones to come with the Riders pre-mounted in the packaging
>>560995971Haltmann.
>>560996507Forgot to attach pic but that gave me an excuse to take a top down one, damn the Riders amiibos feel a bit excessive with their size but they look so good that I think it's worth it
>>560997410That's something I've noticed too, alot of the newer amiibo's seem pretty sizable when put near the ones from the early days.
>>560997598>newer amiibo's seem pretty sizable when put near the ones from the early days.Feels like we're slowly inching from figure to mini statue territory in a way honestly, the jump in price does sting a bit but credit where it's due, you ARE physically getting more out of it. but ow my wallet still
>>560997410>>560996507What a majestic borb.I'm kind of amazed Bandana Dee got an Amiibo at all over one of Sakurai's favored sons, but I guess Dedede is getting two so maybe he was able to better tolerate not putting Marx on there.
What should a Kirby movie be like?
>>560998031something something ow my fire balls.
>>560998031Whimsical ghibliesque tour of Dream Land says my Dark Matter Saga loving ass
>>560998031The more importation question is who should handle a Kirby movie?
the direct trailer for forgotten land had that whole "sword swinging, adventure" bit right?
>>560998830you know the "to be a great hero you need to be a sword swinging, fire breathing, powerful warrior...and also pink" one, or was it star allies?
i just fucking EXPLODED at the finish line LOLMAO
>>560997410This makes it sting extra hard the lack of Susie on these.
>>561002713you in the market for a uh, sizable jar there anon?